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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. 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Does he disagree, as he said this morning, with the said this morning, with the statement said this morning, with the statement that said this morning, with the statement that more said this morning, with the statement that more than said this morning, with the statement that more than 32,000 statement that more than 32,000 people statement that more than 32,000 people have statement that more than 32,000 people have either statement that more than 32,000 people have either gone statement that more than 32,000 people have either gone on statement that more than 32,000 people have either gone on strike statement that more than 32,000 people have either gone on strike or people have either gone on strike or have people have either gone on strike or have signalled people have either gone on strike or have signalled they people have either gone on strike or have signalled they will people have either gone on strike or have signalled they will go people have either gone on strike or have signalled they will go on have signalled they will go on strike have signalled they will go on strike this have signalled they will go on strike this year have signalled they will go on strike this year and have signalled they will go on strike this year and that have signalled they will go on strike this year and that this strike this year and that this figure strike this year and that this figure exceeds strike this year and that this figure exceeds the strike this year and that this figure exceeds the number strike this year and that this figure exceeds the number of strike this year and that this figure exceeds the number of people figure exceeds the number of people that figure exceeds the number of people that went figure exceeds the number of people that went on figure exceeds the number of people that went on strike figure exceeds the number of people that went on strike in figure exceeds the number of people that went on strike in the figure exceeds the number of people that went on strike in the last figure exceeds the number of people that went on strike in the last nine that went on strike in the last nine years? that went on strike in the last nine years? No, that went on strike in the last nine years? No, again, that went on strike in the last nine years? No, again, I that went on strike in the last nine years? No, again, I want that went on strike in the last nine years? No, again, I want an years? No, again, I want an assurance years? No, again, I want an assurance that years? No, again, I want an assurance that - years? No, again, I want an assurance that - the years? No, again, I want an assurance that - the Hon years? No, again, I want an assurance that - the Hon Paula assurance that - the Hon Paula Bennett, assurance that - the Hon Paula Bennett, I'm assurance that - the Hon Paula Bennett, I'm very assurance that - the Hon Paula Bennett, I'm very tempted assurance that - the Hon Paula Bennett, I'm very tempted to assurance that - the Hon Paula Bennett, I'm very tempted to repeat Bennett, I'm very tempted to repeat a Bennett, I'm very tempted to repeat a comment Bennett, I'm very tempted to repeat a comment that Bennett, I'm very tempted to repeat a comment that she's Bennett, I'm very tempted to repeat a comment that she's made Bennett, I'm very tempted to repeat a comment that she's made earlier. a comment that she's made earlier. I'm a comment that she's made earlier. I'm going a comment that she's made earlier. I'm going to a comment that she's made earlier. I'm going to ask a comment that she's made earlier. I'm going to ask the a comment that she's made earlier. I'm going to ask the Leader a comment that she's made earlier. I'm going to ask the Leader of a comment that she's made earlier. I'm going to ask the Leader of the I'm going to ask the Leader of the Opposition I'm going to ask the Leader of the Opposition for I'm going to ask the Leader of the Opposition for an I'm going to ask the Leader of the Opposition for an assurance I'm going to ask the Leader of the Opposition for an assurance that Opposition for an assurance that that Opposition for an assurance that that statement Opposition for an assurance that that statement was Opposition for an assurance that that statement was one Opposition for an assurance that that statement was one that Opposition for an assurance that that statement was one that was Opposition for an assurance that that statement was one that was made that statement was one that was made by that statement was one that was made by the that statement was one that was made by the PM. that statement was one that was made by the PM. Yes, that statement was one that was made by the PM. Yes, this that statement was one that was made by the PM. Yes, this morning. that statement was one that was made by the PM. Yes, this morning. Right. by the PM. Yes, this morning. Right. Can by the PM. Yes, this morning. Right. Can I by the PM. Yes, this morning. Right. Can I say by the PM. Yes, this morning. Right. Can I say that by the PM. Yes, this morning. Right. Can I say that when by the PM. Yes, this morning. Right. Can I say that when the by the PM. Yes, this morning. Right. Can I say that when the Leader by the PM. Yes, this morning. Right. Can I say that when the Leader of Can I say that when the Leader of the Can I say that when the Leader of the Opposition Can I say that when the Leader of the Opposition made Can I say that when the Leader of the Opposition made the Can I say that when the Leader of the Opposition made the 32,000 the Opposition made the 32,000 statement, the Opposition made the 32,000 statement, he the Opposition made the 32,000 statement, he did the Opposition made the 32,000 statement, he did not the Opposition made the 32,000 statement, he did not distinguish statement, he did not distinguish between statement, he did not distinguish between those statement, he did not distinguish between those who statement, he did not distinguish between those who had statement, he did not distinguish between those who had gone statement, he did not distinguish between those who had gone on statement, he did not distinguish between those who had gone on strike between those who had gone on strike and between those who had gone on strike and those between those who had gone on strike and those who between those who had gone on strike and those who might between those who had gone on strike and those who might go between those who had gone on strike and those who might go on between those who had gone on strike and those who might go on strike. between those who had gone on strike and those who might go on strike. He and those who might go on strike. He added and those who might go on strike. He added them and those who might go on strike. He added them all and those who might go on strike. He added them all up and those who might go on strike. He added them all up together. and those who might go on strike. He added them all up together. As and those who might go on strike. He added them all up together. As a added them all up together. As a consequence added them all up together. As a consequence he added them all up together. As a consequence he was added them all up together. As a consequence he was talking consequence he was talking unadulterated consequence he was talking unadulterated dribble. consequence he was talking unadulterated dribble. Does consequence he was talking unadulterated dribble. Does he unadulterated dribble. Does he dispute unadulterated dribble. Does he dispute that unadulterated dribble. Does he dispute that any unadulterated dribble. Does he dispute that any of unadulterated dribble. Does he dispute that any of the unadulterated dribble. Does he dispute that any of the nurses, dispute that any of the nurses, midwives, dispute that any of the nurses, midwives, PSA, dispute that any of the nurses, midwives, PSA, Premier, dispute that any of the nurses, midwives, PSA, Premier, Hastings midwives, PSA, Premier, Hastings Packing, midwives, PSA, Premier, Hastings Packing, Burger midwives, PSA, Premier, Hastings Packing, Burger King, midwives, PSA, Premier, Hastings Packing, Burger King, bottled midwives, PSA, Premier, Hastings Packing, Burger King, bottled water Packing, Burger King, bottled water workers Packing, Burger King, bottled water workers or Packing, Burger King, bottled water workers or Events Packing, Burger King, bottled water workers or Events Cinema Packing, Burger King, bottled water workers or Events Cinema are Packing, Burger King, bottled water workers or Events Cinema are going workers or Events Cinema are going on workers or Events Cinema are going on strike? on strike? Apart on strike? Apart from on strike? Apart from bringing on strike? Apart from bringing home on strike? Apart from bringing home the on strike? Apart from bringing home the bacon, Apart from bringing home the bacon, we're Apart from bringing home the bacon, we're not Apart from bringing home the bacon, we're not responsible Apart from bringing home the bacon, we're not responsible for Apart from bringing home the bacon, we're not responsible for bacon. we're not responsible for bacon. And we're not responsible for bacon. And the we're not responsible for bacon. And the other we're not responsible for bacon. And the other ones we're not responsible for bacon. And the other ones that we're not responsible for bacon. And the other ones that he we're not responsible for bacon. And the other ones that he has we're not responsible for bacon. 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So stable, sound government. So does stable, sound government. So does he stable, sound government. So does he now, stable, sound government. So does he now, for stable, sound government. So does he now, for the stable, sound government. So does he now, for the record, stable, sound government. So does he now, for the record, at So does he now, for the record, at question So does he now, for the record, at question time, So does he now, for the record, at question time, accept So does he now, for the record, at question time, accept that So does he now, for the record, at question time, accept that more So does he now, for the record, at question time, accept that more than question time, accept that more than 32,000 question time, accept that more than 32,000 people question time, accept that more than 32,000 people have question time, accept that more than 32,000 people have either question time, accept that more than 32,000 people have either gone question time, accept that more than 32,000 people have either gone on 32,000 people have either gone on strike 32,000 people have either gone on strike or 32,000 people have either gone on strike or signalled 32,000 people have either gone on strike or signalled they 32,000 people have either gone on strike or signalled they will 32,000 people have either gone on strike or signalled they will go 32,000 people have either gone on strike or signalled they will go on strike or signalled they will go on strike strike or signalled they will go on strike this strike or signalled they will go on strike this year? strike this year? 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Does around and expect no such hopeless prospect at all. Does he around and expect no such hopeless prospect at all. Does he stand around and expect no such hopeless prospect at all. Does he stand by prospect at all. Does he stand by the prospect at all. Does he stand by the PM's prospect at all. Does he stand by the PM's commitment prospect at all. Does he stand by the PM's commitment when prospect at all. Does he stand by the PM's commitment when asked the PM's commitment when asked whether the PM's commitment when asked whether her the PM's commitment when asked whether her government's the PM's commitment when asked whether her government's industrial whether her government's industrial relations whether her government's industrial relations policy whether her government's industrial relations policy could whether her government's industrial relations policy could mean whether her government's industrial relations policy could mean we whether her government's industrial relations policy could mean we see relations policy could mean we see nationwide relations policy could mean we see nationwide strike relations policy could mean we see nationwide strike action relations policy could mean we see nationwide strike action - relations policy could mean we see nationwide strike action - no, relations policy could mean we see nationwide strike action - no, we nationwide strike action - no, we will nationwide strike action - no, we will not. will not. Yes. Yes. Does Yes. Does he Yes. Does he believe Yes. Does he believe his Yes. Does he believe his government Yes. Does he believe his government is Does he believe his government is delivering Does he believe his government is delivering on Does he believe his government is delivering on that Does he believe his government is delivering on that commitment, Does he believe his government is delivering on that commitment, given delivering on that commitment, given more delivering on that commitment, given more people delivering on that commitment, given more people have delivering on that commitment, given more people have indicated delivering on that commitment, given more people have indicated that delivering on that commitment, given more people have indicated that they more people have indicated that they will more people have indicated that they will go more people have indicated that they will go on more people have indicated that they will go on strike more people have indicated that they will go on strike this more people have indicated that they will go on strike this year more people have indicated that they will go on strike this year than will go on strike this year than over will go on strike this year than over the will go on strike this year than over the last will go on strike this year than over the last nine will go on strike this year than over the last nine years will go on strike this year than over the last nine years added over the last nine years added together, over the last nine years added together, including over the last nine years added together, including a over the last nine years added together, including a nationwide together, including a nationwide nurses together, including a nationwide nurses strike? nurses strike? 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We likely that no-one goes to the bus stop. We run likely that no-one goes to the bus stop. We run transport likely that no-one goes to the bus stop. We run transport services likely that no-one goes to the bus stop. We run transport services and stop. We run transport services and we stop. We run transport services and we listen stop. We run transport services and we listen and stop. We run transport services and we listen and so stop. We run transport services and we listen and so a stop. We run transport services and we listen and so a whole stop. We run transport services and we listen and so a whole lot stop. We run transport services and we listen and so a whole lot of we listen and so a whole lot of people we listen and so a whole lot of people out we listen and so a whole lot of people out there we listen and so a whole lot of people out there say, we listen and so a whole lot of people out there say, maybe we listen and so a whole lot of people out there say, maybe we people out there say, maybe we should people out there say, maybe we should approach people out there say, maybe we should approach the people out there say, maybe we should approach the new people out there say, maybe we should approach the new government should approach the new government and should approach the new government and get should approach the new government and get a should approach the new government and get a fairer should approach the new government and get a fairer deal? should approach the new government and get a fairer deal? We should approach the new government and get a fairer deal? We are should approach the new government and get a fairer deal? We are saying and get a fairer deal? We are saying to and get a fairer deal? We are saying to them, and get a fairer deal? We are saying to them, you and get a fairer deal? We are saying to them, you will and get a fairer deal? We are saying to them, you will get and get a fairer deal? We are saying to them, you will get a and get a fairer deal? We are saying to them, you will get a fair and get a fairer deal? We are saying to them, you will get a fair deal to them, you will get a fair deal but to them, you will get a fair deal but we to them, you will get a fair deal but we can't to them, you will get a fair deal but we can't turn to them, you will get a fair deal but we can't turn around to them, you will get a fair deal but we can't turn around nine to them, you will get a fair deal but we can't turn around nine years but we can't turn around nine years of but we can't turn around nine years of neglect but we can't turn around nine years of neglect in but we can't turn around nine years of neglect in the but we can't turn around nine years of neglect in the space but we can't turn around nine years of neglect in the space of but we can't turn around nine years of neglect in the space of one of neglect in the space of one budget. of neglect in the space of one budget. My of neglect in the space of one budget. My colleague of neglect in the space of one budget. 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In the reality of bus stops, this government in the way stops, this government in the way it's stops, this government in the way it's talking stops, this government in the way it's talking down stops, this government in the way it's talking down business it's talking down business confidence it's talking down business confidence t it's talking down business confidence t way it's talking down business confidence t way vulnerable it's talking down business confidence t way vulnerable workers confidence t way vulnerable workers will confidence t way vulnerable workers will find confidence t way vulnerable workers will find it confidence t way vulnerable workers will find it harder confidence t way vulnerable workers will find it harder to confidence t way vulnerable workers will find it harder to get confidence t way vulnerable workers will find it harder to get a confidence t way vulnerable workers will find it harder to get a job, will find it harder to get a job, all will find it harder to get a job, all of will find it harder to get a job, all of the will find it harder to get a job, all of the uncertainty will find it harder to get a job, all of the uncertainty is will find it harder to get a job, all of the uncertainty is taking will find it harder to get a job, all of the uncertainty is taking New all of the uncertainty is taking New Zealanders all of the uncertainty is taking New Zealanders for all of the uncertainty is taking New Zealanders for a all of the uncertainty is taking New Zealanders for a ride. 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They got the biggest in Wellington the other night. They got the biggest attendance in Wellington the other night. They got the biggest attendance in in Wellington the other night. They got the biggest attendance in their got the biggest attendance in their history. got the biggest attendance in their history. Will got the biggest attendance in their history. Will critical got the biggest attendance in their history. Will critical public history. Will critical public services history. Will critical public services be history. Will critical public services be put history. Will critical public services be put on history. Will critical public services be put on hold history. Will critical public services be put on hold if history. Will critical public services be put on hold if the services be put on hold if the nurses services be put on hold if the nurses go services be put on hold if the nurses go through services be put on hold if the nurses go through with services be put on hold if the nurses go through with their nurses go through with their signalled nurses go through with their signalled strike nurses go through with their signalled strike action nurses go through with their signalled strike action next nurses go through with their signalled strike action next week? signalled strike action next week? signalled signalled strike action next week? Can I say signalled strike action next week? Can I say we signalled strike action next week? Can I say we don't signalled strike action next week? Can I say we don't approach Can I say we don't approach negotiations Can I say we don't approach negotiations with Can I say we don't approach negotiations with an Can I say we don't approach negotiations with an intention Can I say we don't approach negotiations with an intention to negotiations with an intention to fail. negotiations with an intention to fail. We negotiations with an intention to fail. We think negotiations with an intention to fail. We think that negotiations with an intention to fail. We think that logic negotiations with an intention to fail. We think that logic and fail. We think that logic and reasonableness fail. We think that logic and reasonableness will fail. We think that logic and reasonableness will be fail. We think that logic and reasonableness will be the fail. We think that logic and reasonableness will be the order fail. We think that logic and reasonableness will be the order of reasonableness will be the order of the reasonableness will be the order of the day reasonableness will be the order of the day in reasonableness will be the order of the day in these reasonableness will be the order of the day in these negotiations. reasonableness will be the order of the day in these negotiations. We the day in these negotiations. We are the day in these negotiations. We are hopeful the day in these negotiations. We are hopeful that the day in these negotiations. We are hopeful that they the day in these negotiations. We are hopeful that they will the day in these negotiations. We are hopeful that they will see the day in these negotiations. We are hopeful that they will see the are hopeful that they will see the massive are hopeful that they will see the massive task are hopeful that they will see the massive task this are hopeful that they will see the massive task this government are hopeful that they will see the massive task this government has are hopeful that they will see the massive task this government has and massive task this government has and how massive task this government has and how they massive task this government has and how they can massive task this government has and how they can help massive task this government has and how they can help us massive task this government has and how they can help us achieve massive task this government has and how they can help us achieve all massive task this government has and how they can help us achieve all of how they can help us achieve all of our how they can help us achieve all of our targets how they can help us achieve all of our targets altogether how they can help us achieve all of our targets altogether over how they can help us achieve all of our targets altogether over time. our targets altogether over time. How our targets altogether over time. How will our targets altogether over time. How will the our targets altogether over time. How will the bus our targets altogether over time. How will the bus turn our targets altogether over time. How will the bus turn up our targets altogether over time. How will the bus turn up to our targets altogether over time. How will the bus turn up to the our targets altogether over time. How will the bus turn up to the bus How will the bus turn up to the bus stop How will the bus turn up to the bus stop when How will the bus turn up to the bus stop when all How will the bus turn up to the bus stop when all the How will the bus turn up to the bus stop when all the drivers How will the bus turn up to the bus stop when all the drivers are How will the bus turn up to the bus stop when all the drivers are on stop when all the drivers are on strike? strike? <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Well, <INTERRUPTION> Well, the <INTERRUPTION> Well, the first <INTERRUPTION> Well, the first thing <INTERRUPTION> Well, the first thing you <INTERRUPTION> Well, the first thing you have <INTERRUPTION> Well, the first thing you have to Well, the first thing you have to have Well, the first thing you have to have of Well, the first thing you have to have of course Well, the first thing you have to have of course is Well, the first thing you have to have of course is there Well, the first thing you have to have of course is there a Well, the first thing you have to have of course is there a bus Well, the first thing you have to have of course is there a bus for have of course is there a bus for there have of course is there a bus for there to have of course is there a bus for there to be have of course is there a bus for there to be drivers. have of course is there a bus for there to be drivers. That's have of course is there a bus for there to be drivers. That's where there to be drivers. That's where we're there to be drivers. That's where Well, we're different. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Will <INTERRUPTION> Will the <INTERRUPTION> Will the impending <INTERRUPTION> Will the impending strike <INTERRUPTION> Will the impending strike action, Will the impending strike action, including Will the impending strike action, including 27,000 Will the impending strike action, including 27,000 nurses Will the impending strike action, including 27,000 nurses and Will the impending strike action, including 27,000 nurses and midwives including 27,000 nurses and midwives and including 27,000 nurses and midwives and 4,000 including 27,000 nurses and midwives and 4,000 IRD including 27,000 nurses and midwives and 4,000 IRD and including 27,000 nurses and midwives and 4,000 IRD and MB including 27,000 nurses and midwives and 4,000 IRD and MB staff including 27,000 nurses and midwives and 4,000 IRD and MB staff be including 27,000 nurses and midwives and 4,000 IRD and MB staff be good and 4,000 IRD and MB staff be good for and 4,000 IRD and MB staff be good for business and 4,000 IRD and MB staff be good for business confidence? for business confidence? 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We as companies like Concision are already doing. We will as companies like Concision are already doing. We will use as companies like Concision are already doing. We will use KiwiBuild already doing. We will use KiwiBuild to already doing. We will use KiwiBuild to grow already doing. We will use KiwiBuild to grow a already doing. We will use KiwiBuild to grow a more already doing. We will use KiwiBuild to grow a more competitive already doing. We will use KiwiBuild to grow a more competitive and to grow a more competitive and innovative to grow a more competitive and innovative construction to grow a more competitive and innovative construction industry. innovative construction industry. What innovative construction industry. What is innovative construction industry. What is the innovative construction industry. What is the minister innovative construction industry. What is the minister doing innovative construction industry. 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Will the minister commit to Will the minister commit to prioritising Will the minister commit to prioritising local Will the minister commit to prioritising local training Will the minister commit to prioritising local training and prioritising local training and employment prioritising local training and employment opportunities prioritising local training and employment opportunities and employment opportunities and supporting employment opportunities and supporting our employment opportunities and supporting our own employment opportunities and supporting our own industry employment opportunities and supporting our own industry to supporting our own industry to deliver supporting our own industry to deliver KiwiBuild supporting our own industry to deliver KiwiBuild homes supporting our own industry to deliver KiwiBuild homes in supporting our own industry to deliver KiwiBuild homes in the deliver KiwiBuild homes in the future? future? Yes, future? Yes, I'm future? 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Zealand firms to do that. Will Zealand firms to do that. Will the Zealand firms to do that. Will the use Zealand firms to do that. Will the use of Zealand firms to do that. Will the use of offside Will the use of offside manufacturing Will the use of offside manufacturing reduce Will the use of offside manufacturing reduce the Will the use of offside manufacturing reduce the cost Will the use of offside manufacturing reduce the cost of manufacturing reduce the cost of KiwiBuild manufacturing reduce the cost of KiwiBuild homes? manufacturing reduce the cost of KiwiBuild homes? Yes, manufacturing reduce the cost of KiwiBuild homes? Yes, it manufacturing reduce the cost of KiwiBuild homes? Yes, it will. manufacturing reduce the cost of KiwiBuild homes? Yes, it will. The KiwiBuild homes? Yes, it will. The international KiwiBuild homes? Yes, it will. The international benchmark KiwiBuild homes? Yes, it will. The international benchmark for KiwiBuild homes? Yes, it will. 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In 2009/17 business confidence was positive 87 of 5 confidence was positive 87 of 5 months, confidence was positive 87 of 5 months, but confidence was positive 87 of 5 months, but GDP confidence was positive 87 of 5 months, but GDP growth confidence was positive 87 of 5 months, but GDP growth on confidence was positive 87 of 5 months, but GDP growth on average months, but GDP growth on average was months, but GDP growth on average was only months, but GDP growth on average was only 1.98%. months, but GDP growth on average was only 1.98%. <INTERRUPTION> So So will So will he So will he agree So will he agree with So will he agree with me So will he agree with me that So will he agree with me that the So will he agree with me that the best So will he agree with me that the best way So will he agree with me that the best way to So will he agree with me that the best way to create So will he agree with me that the best way to create jobs So will he agree with me that the best way to create jobs and So will he agree with me that the best way to create jobs and lift So will he agree with me that the best way to create jobs and lift New best way to create jobs and lift New Zealand best way to create jobs and lift New Zealand wages best way to create jobs and lift New Zealand wages is best way to create jobs and lift New Zealand wages is by best way to create jobs and lift New Zealand wages is by supporting best way to create jobs and lift New Zealand wages is by supporting our Zealand wages is by supporting our economy Zealand wages is by supporting our economy to Zealand wages is by supporting our economy to be Zealand wages is by supporting our economy to be one Zealand wages is by supporting our economy to be one in Zealand wages is by supporting our economy to be one in which economy to be one in which businesses economy to be one in which businesses have economy to be one in which businesses have the economy to be one in which businesses have the confidence economy to be one in which businesses have the confidence and businesses have the confidence and the businesses have the confidence and the ability businesses have the confidence and the ability to businesses have the confidence and the ability to invest, businesses have the confidence and the ability to invest, employ businesses have the confidence and the ability to invest, employ and businesses have the confidence and the ability to invest, employ and to the ability to invest, employ and to grow the ability to invest, employ and to grow and the ability to invest, employ and to grow and if the ability to invest, employ and to grow and if so, the ability to invest, employ and to grow and if so, when the ability to invest, employ and to grow and if so, when will the ability to invest, employ and to grow and if so, when will this grow and if so, when will this Government grow and if so, when will this Government start grow and if so, when will this Government start to grow and if so, when will this Government start to walk grow and if so, when will this Government start to walk the grow and if so, when will this Government start to walk the talk? 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Question Question No. Question No. 6. Question Question No. Question No. 6. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Housing My question is to the Minister of Housing and My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: Will Housing and Urban Development: Will the Housing and Urban Development: Will the Government Housing and Urban Development: Will the Government increase Housing and Urban Development: Will the Government increase the Housing and Urban Development: Will the Government increase the capacity the Government increase the capacity of the Government increase the capacity of the the Government increase the capacity of the construction the Government increase the capacity of the construction sector the Government increase the capacity of the construction sector to the Government increase the capacity of the construction sector to build of the construction sector to build 1,000 of the construction sector to build 1,000 KiwiBuild of the construction sector to build 1,000 KiwiBuild homes of the construction sector to build 1,000 KiwiBuild homes in of the construction sector to build 1,000 KiwiBuild homes in 2018/19, 1,000 KiwiBuild homes in 2018/19, 5,000 1,000 KiwiBuild homes in 2018/19, 5,000 KiwiBuild 1,000 KiwiBuild homes in 2018/19, 5,000 KiwiBuild homes 1,000 KiwiBuild homes in 2018/19, 5,000 KiwiBuild homes in 1,000 KiwiBuild homes in 2018/19, 5,000 KiwiBuild homes in 2019/20, 5,000 KiwiBuild homes in 2019/20, and 5,000 KiwiBuild homes in 2019/20, and 10,000 5,000 KiwiBuild homes in 2019/20, and 10,000 KiwiBuild 5,000 KiwiBuild homes in 2019/20, and 10,000 KiwiBuild homes 5,000 KiwiBuild homes in 2019/20, and 10,000 KiwiBuild homes in and 10,000 KiwiBuild homes in 2020/21; and 10,000 KiwiBuild homes in 2020/21; if and 10,000 KiwiBuild homes in 2020/21; if so, and 10,000 KiwiBuild homes in 2020/21; if so, how? Yes. Yes. After Yes. After nine Yes. After nine years Yes. After nine years of Yes. After nine years of neglect, Yes. After nine years of neglect, we Yes. After nine years of neglect, we can't Yes. After nine years of neglect, we can't go Yes. After nine years of neglect, we can't go from Yes. After nine years of neglect, we can't go from zero Yes. After nine years of neglect, we can't go from zero homes Yes. After nine years of neglect, we can't go from zero homes to Yes. After nine years of neglect, we can't go from zero homes to 10,000 can't go from zero homes to 10,000 overnight can't go from zero homes to 10,000 overnight but can't go from zero homes to 10,000 overnight but we can't go from zero homes to 10,000 overnight but we are can't go from zero homes to 10,000 overnight but we are making can't go from zero homes to 10,000 overnight but we are making solid overnight but we are making solid progress overnight but we are making solid progress and overnight but we are making solid progress and increasing overnight but we are making solid progress and increasing the overnight but we are making solid progress and increasing the capacity progress and increasing the capacity of progress and increasing the capacity of the progress and increasing the capacity of the construction progress and increasing the capacity of the construction industry. progress and increasing the capacity of the construction industry. This of the construction industry. This includes of the construction industry. This includes our of the construction industry. This includes our skills of the construction industry. This includes our skills strategy of the construction industry. This includes our skills strategy and of the construction industry. This includes our skills strategy and two includes our skills strategy and two years' includes our skills strategy and two years' fees-free includes our skills strategy and two years' fees-free for includes our skills strategy and two years' fees-free for apprentices includes our skills strategy and two years' fees-free for apprentices and years' fees-free for apprentices and industry years' fees-free for apprentices and industry trainees years' fees-free for apprentices and industry trainees and years' fees-free for apprentices and industry trainees and working years' fees-free for apprentices and industry trainees and working with industry trainees and working with industry trainees and working with industry trainees and working with offsite manufacturing industry trainees and working with offsite manufacturing firms industry trainees and working with offsite manufacturing firms to industry trainees and working with offsite manufacturing firms to boost offsite manufacturing firms to boost the offsite manufacturing firms to boost the number offsite manufacturing firms to boost the number of offsite manufacturing firms to boost the number of homes offsite manufacturing firms to boost the number of homes that offsite manufacturing firms to boost the number of homes that we offsite manufacturing firms to boost the number of homes that we can the number of homes that we can build the number of homes that we can build and the number of homes that we can build and factories the number of homes that we can build and factories with the number of homes that we can build and factories with the the number of homes that we can build and factories with the latest build and factories with the latest technology. build and factories with the latest technology. How build and factories with the latest technology. How is build and factories with the latest technology. How is KiwiBuild technology. How is KiwiBuild proposing technology. How is KiwiBuild proposing to technology. How is KiwiBuild proposing to work technology. How is KiwiBuild proposing to work with technology. How is KiwiBuild proposing to work with the technology. How is KiwiBuild proposing to work with the offsite proposing to work with the offsite manufacturing proposing to work with the offsite the proposing to work with the offsite manufacturing industry? Shortly proposing to work with the offsite manufacturing industry? Shortly we manufacturing industry? Shortly we will manufacturing industry? Shortly we will be manufacturing industry? Shortly we will be offering manufacturing industry? Shortly we will be offering the manufacturing industry? Shortly we will be offering the offsite will be offering the offsite manufacturing will be offering the offsite manufacturing industry will be offering the offsite manufacturing industry here will be offering the offsite manufacturing industry here and manufacturing industry here and abroad manufacturing industry here and abroad the manufacturing industry here and abroad the opportunity manufacturing industry here and abroad the opportunity to manufacturing industry here and abroad the opportunity to present abroad the opportunity to present their abroad the opportunity to present their ideas abroad the opportunity to present their ideas for abroad the opportunity to present their ideas for delivering abroad the opportunity to present their ideas for delivering KiwiBuild their ideas for delivering KiwiBuild their ideas for delivering KiwiBuild their ideas for delivering KiwiBuild homes and their ideas for delivering KiwiBuild homes and to their ideas for delivering KiwiBuild homes and to suggest their ideas for delivering KiwiBuild homes and to suggest how their ideas for delivering KiwiBuild homes and to suggest how we their ideas for delivering KiwiBuild homes and to suggest how we can their ideas for delivering KiwiBuild homes and to suggest how we can give homes and to suggest how we can give the homes and to suggest how we can give the industry homes and to suggest how we can give the industry the homes and to suggest how we can give the industry the confidence homes and to suggest how we can give the industry the confidence and homes and to suggest how we can give the industry the confidence and the the industry the confidence and the certainty the industry the confidence and the certainty it the industry the confidence and the certainty it needs the industry the confidence and the certainty it needs to the industry the confidence and the certainty it needs to expand the industry the confidence and the certainty it needs to expand its certainty it needs to expand its certainty it needs to expand its certainty it needs to expand its capacity. For certainty it needs to expand its capacity. For instance, certainty it needs to expand its capacity. For instance, KiwiBuild capacity. For instance, KiwiBuild could capacity. For instance, KiwiBuild could offer capacity. For instance, KiwiBuild could offer multi-year, capacity. For instance, KiwiBuild could offer multi-year, large-volume could offer multi-year, large-volume contracts could offer multi-year, large-volume contracts to could offer multi-year, large-volume contracts to offsite could offer multi-year, large-volume contracts to offsite manufacturers contracts to offsite manufacturers giving contracts to offsite manufacturers giving them contracts to offsite manufacturers giving them the contracts to offsite manufacturers giving them the ability contracts to offsite manufacturers giving them the ability to contracts to offsite manufacturers giving them the ability to invest contracts to offsite manufacturers giving them the ability to invest in giving them the ability to invest in more giving them the ability to invest in more plant giving them the ability to invest in more plant and giving them the ability to invest in more plant and hire giving them the ability to invest in more plant and hire more giving them the ability to invest in more plant and hire more staff. giving them the ability to invest in more plant and hire more staff. Is more plant and hire more staff. Is using more plant and hire more staff. Is using offsite more plant and hire more staff. Is using offsite manufacturing more plant and hire more staff. Is using offsite manufacturing as more plant and hire more staff. Is using offsite manufacturing as part using offsite manufacturing as part of using offsite manufacturing as part of KiwiBuild using offsite manufacturing as part of KiwiBuild a using offsite manufacturing as part of KiwiBuild a new using offsite manufacturing as part of KiwiBuild a new idea? using offsite manufacturing as part of KiwiBuild a new idea? No, using offsite manufacturing as part of KiwiBuild a new idea? No, it's of KiwiBuild a new idea? No, it's not of KiwiBuild a new idea? No, it's not a of KiwiBuild a new idea? No, it's not a new of KiwiBuild a new idea? No, it's not a new idea. of KiwiBuild a new idea? No, it's not a new idea. We of KiwiBuild a new idea? No, it's not a new idea. We have of KiwiBuild a new idea? 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Does he believe that the spend of nearly he believe that the spend of nearly $2 he believe that the spend of nearly $2 billion he believe that the spend of nearly $2 billion over he believe that the spend of nearly $2 billion over five he believe that the spend of nearly $2 billion over five years he believe that the spend of nearly $2 billion over five years will $2 billion over five years will increase $2 billion over five years will increase student $2 billion over five years will increase student numbers $2 billion over five years will increase student numbers up $2 billion over five years will increase student numbers up to $2 billion over five years will increase student numbers up to 15%, increase student numbers up to 15%, like increase student numbers up to 15%, like he increase student numbers up to 15%, like he promised increase student numbers up to 15%, like he promised a increase student numbers up to 15%, like he promised a year increase student numbers up to 15%, like he promised a year ago? increase student numbers up to 15%, like he promised a year ago? 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therefore be in faster following their study and they will therefore be in a faster following their study and they will therefore be in a position they will therefore be in a position to they will therefore be in a position to buy they will therefore be in a position to buy a they will therefore be in a position to buy a first they will therefore be in a position to buy a first home they will therefore be in a position to buy a first home or they will therefore be in a position to buy a first home or start they will therefore be in a position to buy a first home or start a to buy a first home or start a family to buy a first home or start a family or to buy a first home or start a family or those to buy a first home or start a family or those other to buy a first home or start a family or those other things to buy a first home or start a family or those other things that family or those other things that they family or those other things that they have family or those other things that 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are Speaker, that is majority of people who benefit from fees free are not who benefit from fees free are not university who benefit from fees free are not university students. who benefit from fees free are not university students. Supplementary. university students. Supplementary. Why university students. Supplementary. Why is university students. Supplementary. Why is there university students. Supplementary. Why is there no university students. Supplementary. Why is there no additional university students. Supplementary. Why is there no additional funding Why is there no additional funding in Why is there no additional funding in Budget Why is there no additional funding in Budget 2018 Why is there no additional funding in Budget 2018 for Why is there no additional funding in Budget 2018 for universities Why is there no additional funding in Budget 2018 for universities or in Budget 2018 for universities or industry in Budget 2018 for universities or industry training in Budget 2018 for universities or industry training organisations in Budget 2018 for universities or industry training organisations for industry training organisations for industry training organisations for industry training organisations for apprenticeships? University industry training organisations for apprenticeships? University funding apprenticeships? University funding and apprenticeships? University funding and apprenticeship apprenticeships? University funding and apprenticeship funding apprenticeships? 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Is the change in overall enrolments in line member's assertion. Is the change in overall enrolments in line with overall enrolments in line with officials' overall enrolments in line with officials' estimates overall enrolments in line with officials' estimates that overall enrolments in line with officials' estimates that the overall enrolments in line with officials' estimates that the time officials' estimates that the time the officials' estimates that the time the fees officials' estimates that the time the fees -free officials' estimates that the time the fees -free programme officials' estimates that the time the fees -free programme was officials' estimates that the time the officials' estimates that the time developed? Yes. When officials' estimates that the time developed? Yes. When the officials' estimates that the time developed? Yes. When the fees-free developed? Yes. When the fees-free developed? developed? Yes. When the fees-free policy was developed, developed? Yes. When the fees-free policy was developed, we developed? Yes. 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The previous forecasting significant decline. The previous Government forecasting significant decline. The previous Government had forecasting significant decline. The previous Government had been previous Government had been forecasting previous Government had been forecasting significant previous Government had been forecasting significant declines previous Government had been forecasting significant declines in forecasting significant declines in participation. forecasting significant declines in participation. As forecasting significant declines in participation. As the forecasting significant declines in participation. As the Cabinet forecasting significant declines in participation. As the Cabinet paper participation. As the Cabinet paper that participation. As the Cabinet paper that I participation. As the Cabinet paper that I put participation. As the Cabinet paper that I put up participation. As the Cabinet paper that I put up made participation. 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As the Cabinet paper that I put up made it very clear, we that I put up made it very clear, we were that I put up made it very clear, we were anticipating that I put up made it very clear, we were anticipating or that I put up made it very clear, we were anticipating or hoping that I put up made it very clear, we were anticipating or hoping that that I put up made it very clear, we were anticipating or hoping that the were anticipating or hoping that the fees were anticipating or hoping that the fees Free were anticipating or hoping that the fees Free petrolcy were anticipating or hoping that the fees Free petrolcy would were anticipating or hoping that the fees Free petrolcy would result were anticipating or hoping that the fees Free petrolcy would result in fees Free petrolcy would result in fees Free petrolcy would result in fees Free petrolcy would result in that situation fees Free petrolcy would result in that situation stabilising fees Free petrolcy would result in that situation stabilising and fees Free petrolcy would result in that situation stabilising and that that situation stabilising and that that situation stabilising and that that situation stabilising and that is exactly that situation stabilising and that is exactly what that situation stabilising and that is exactly what has that situation stabilising and that is exactly what has happened. is exactly what has happened. is exactly what has happened. <INTERRUPTION> Question <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Question No. 11. Question Question No. Question No. 11. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Justice: My question is to the Minister of Justice: Does My question is to the Minister of Justice: Does he My question is to the Minister of Justice: Does he stand My question is to the Minister of Justice: Does he stand by My question is to the Minister of Justice: Does he stand by his Justice: Does he stand by his statement Justice: Does he stand by his statement that Justice: Does he stand by his statement that "My Justice: Does he stand by his statement that "My track Justice: Does he stand by his statement that "My track record Justice: Does he stand by his statement that "My track record on statement that "My track record on issues statement that "My track record on issues of statement that "My track record on issues of sexual statement that "My track record on issues of sexual harassment statement that "My track record on issues of sexual harassment and issues of sexual harassment and sexual issues of sexual harassment and sexual violence issues of sexual harassment and sexual violence is issues of sexual harassment and sexual violence is very issues of sexual harassment and sexual violence is very clear"? Yes. Yes. Does Yes. Does he Yes. Does he stand Yes. Does he stand by Yes. Does he stand by his Yes. Does he stand by his comments Yes. Does he stand by his comments in Yes. Does he stand by his comments in relation Yes. Does he stand by his comments in relation to Yes. Does he stand by his comments in relation to sexual Yes. Does he stand by his comments in relation to sexual harassment in relation to sexual harassment in relation to sexual harassment in relation to sexual harassment claims that in relation to sexual harassment claims that Russell in relation to sexual harassment claims that Russell McVeigh in relation to sexual harassment claims that Russell McVeigh that claims that Russell McVeigh that private claims that Russell McVeigh that private organisations claims that Russell McVeigh that private organisations have claims that Russell McVeigh that private organisations have to private organisations have to conduct private organisations have to conduct themselves private organisations have to conduct themselves or private organisations have to conduct themselves or manage conduct themselves or manage themselves conduct themselves or manage themselves in conduct themselves or manage themselves in a conduct themselves or manage themselves in a way conduct themselves or manage themselves in a way that conduct themselves or manage themselves in a way that they conduct themselves or manage themselves in a way that they see themselves in a way that they see themselves in a way that they see themselves in a way that they see fit and themselves in a way that they see fit and that themselves in a way that they see fit and that it themselves in a way that they see fit and that it might themselves in a way that they see fit and that it might not themselves in a way that they see fit and that it might not be themselves in a way that they see fit and that it might not be right fit and that it might not be right or fit and that it might not be right or appropriate fit and that it might not be right or appropriate for fit and that it might not be right or appropriate for them fit and that it might not be right or appropriate for them to fit and that it might not be right or appropriate for them to appoint or appropriate for them to appoint their or appropriate for them to appoint their own or appropriate for them to appoint their own independent or appropriate for them to appoint their own independent reviewer? or appropriate for them to appoint their own independent reviewer? Yes. their own independent reviewer? Yes. Does their own independent reviewer? Yes. Does he their own independent reviewer? Yes. Does he think their own independent reviewer? Yes. Does he think trivialising their own independent reviewer? Yes. 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