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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. 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Would he please come forward to the of Allegiance. Would he please come forward to the chair of Allegiance. Would he please come forward to the chair on of Allegiance. Would he please come forward to the chair on my of Allegiance. Would he please come forward to the chair on my right. I, I, Daniel I, Daniel Bidois, I, Daniel Bidois, swear I, Daniel Bidois, swear that I, Daniel Bidois, swear that I I, Daniel Bidois, swear that I will I, Daniel Bidois, swear that I will be I, Daniel Bidois, swear that I will be faithful I, Daniel Bidois, swear that I will be faithful and I, Daniel Bidois, swear that I will be faithful and bear I, Daniel Bidois, swear that I will be faithful and bear true will be faithful and bear true allegiance will be faithful and bear true allegiance to will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Her allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Her heirs allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Her heirs and Elizabeth the Second, Her heirs and successors, Elizabeth the Second, Her heirs and successors, according Elizabeth the Second, Her heirs and successors, according to Elizabeth the Second, Her heirs and successors, according to law. Elizabeth the Second, Her heirs and successors, according to law. So successors, according to law. So help successors, according to law. So help me successors, according to law. So help me God. <APPLAUSE> No No petitions No petitions or No petitions or select No petitions or select committee No petitions or select committee reports No petitions or select committee reports have No petitions or select committee reports have been No petitions or select committee reports have been presented. reports have been presented. Ministers reports have been presented. Ministers have reports have been presented. Ministers have delivered reports have been presented. Ministers have delivered papers. 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Question No. My question is to the Minister of Forestry: My question is to the Minister of Forestry: What My question is to the Minister of Forestry: What reports My question is to the Minister of Forestry: What reports has My question is to the Minister of Forestry: What reports has he Forestry: What reports has he received Forestry: What reports has he received about Forestry: What reports has he received about the Forestry: What reports has he received about the effect Forestry: What reports has he received about the effect of Forestry: What reports has he received about the effect of the received about the effect of the changes received about the effect of the changes to received about the effect of the changes to the received about the effect of the changes to the Overseas received about the effect of the changes to the Overseas Investment changes to the Overseas Investment Act changes to the Overseas Investment Act 2005 changes to the Overseas Investment Act 2005 on changes to the Overseas Investment Act 2005 on forestry changes to the Overseas Investment Act 2005 on forestry and changes to the Overseas Investment Act 2005 on forestry and other Act 2005 on forestry and other regional Act 2005 on forestry and other regional land? 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Supplementary. billion-tree outcome. Supplementary. Does billion-tree outcome. Supplementary. Does the billion-tree outcome. Supplementary. Does the minister billion-tree outcome. Supplementary. Does the minister consider billion-tree outcome. Supplementary. Does the minister consider these Does the minister consider these changes Does the minister consider these changes to Does the minister consider these changes to be Does the minister consider these changes to be positive Does the minister consider these changes to be positive towards Does the minister consider these changes to be positive towards the changes to be positive towards the changes to be positive towards the changes to be positive towards the billion trees changes to be positive towards the billion trees strategy? changes to be positive towards the billion trees strategy? Mr changes to be positive towards the billion trees strategy? Mr Speaker, billion trees strategy? Mr Speaker, there billion trees strategy? 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There is core nation-building project. There is core funding nation-building project. There is core funding coming nation-building project. There is core funding coming out nation-building project. There is core funding coming out of nation-building project. There is core funding coming out of the core funding coming out of the Crown. core funding coming out of the Crown. There core funding coming out of the Crown. There is core funding coming out of the Crown. There is funding core funding coming out of the Crown. There is funding coming core funding coming out of the Crown. There is funding coming out Crown. There is funding coming out of Crown. There is funding coming out of entities Crown. There is funding coming out of entities such Crown. There is funding coming out of entities such as Crown. There is funding coming out of entities such as the Crown. There is funding coming out of entities such as the Super Crown. 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Our Government made a choice to simplify Government made a choice to simplify Government made a choice to simplify Government made a choice to simplify the process Government made a choice to simplify the process so Government made a choice to simplify the process so we Government made a choice to simplify the process so we could Government made a choice to simplify the process so we could tap Government made a choice to simplify the process so we could tap into the process so we could tap into international the process so we could tap into international capital, the process so we could tap into international capital, subject the process so we could tap into international capital, subject to international capital, subject to international capital, subject to international capital, subject to rules and international capital, subject to rules and regulations international capital, subject to rules and regulations that international capital, subject to rules and regulations that will international capital, subject to rules and regulations that will be rules and regulations that will be covered rules and regulations that will be covered off rules and regulations that will be covered off by rules and regulations that will be covered off by environmental covered off by environmental legislation. covered off by environmental legislation. 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The minister has responsibility for forestry Order! 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Was he aware at the time of his Was he aware at the time of his representations Was he aware at the time of his representations to Was he aware at the time of his representations to Mr Was he aware at the time of his representations to Mr Parker Was he aware at the time of his representations to Mr Parker that representations to Mr Parker that the representations to Mr Parker that the iwi representations to Mr Parker that the iwi had representations to Mr Parker that the iwi had already representations to Mr Parker that the iwi had already disposed representations to Mr Parker that the iwi had already disposed of representations to Mr Parker that the iwi had already disposed of more the iwi had already disposed of more than the iwi had already disposed of more than 75% the iwi had already disposed of more than 75% of the iwi had already disposed of more than 75% of their the iwi had already disposed of more than 75% of their interest the iwi had already disposed of more than 75% of their interest in the iwi had already disposed of more than 75% of their interest in the than 75% of their interest in the originally than 75% of their interest in the originally settled than 75% of their interest in the originally settled land? than 75% of their interest in the originally settled land? 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My My understanding My understanding is My understanding is there My understanding is there are My understanding is there are no My understanding is there are no foreign My understanding is there are no foreign investors My understanding is there are no foreign investors in My understanding is there are no foreign investors in Te My understanding is there are no foreign investors in Te Arai My understanding is there are no foreign investors in Te Arai as My understanding is there are no foreign investors in Te Arai as Mr foreign investors in Te Arai as Mr foreign investors in Te Arai as Mr foreign investors in Te Arai as Mr John derby foreign investors in Te Arai as Mr John derby is foreign investors in Te Arai as Mr John derby is a foreign investors in Te Arai as Mr John derby is a New foreign investors in Te Arai as Mr John derby is a New Zealand foreign investors in Te Arai as Mr John derby is a New Zealand citizen, John derby is a New Zealand citizen, Mr John derby is a New Zealand citizen, Mr Rick John derby is a New Zealand citizen, Mr Rick Caine John derby is a New Zealand citizen, Mr Rick Caine has John derby is a New Zealand citizen, Mr Rick Caine has New John derby is a New Zealand citizen, Mr Rick Caine has New Zealand Mr Rick Caine has New Zealand residency. 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Indeed, the transitional exemption was to apply to the land. Indeed, the member, transitional exemption was to apply to the land. Indeed, the member, as to the land. Indeed, the member, as a to the land. Indeed, the member, as a member to the land. Indeed, the member, as a member of to the land. Indeed, the member, as a member of the to the land. Indeed, the member, as a member of the select to the land. 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When properties during the term of that 15-year extension. When he properties during the term of that 15-year extension. When he said properties during the term of that 15-year extension. When he said in 15-year extension. When he said in the 15-year extension. When he said in the House 15-year extension. When he said in the House yesterday 15-year extension. When he said in the House yesterday that 15-year extension. 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I exemptions to those sought by Te Arai? I am exemptions to those sought by Te Arai? I am not exemptions to those sought by Te Arai? I am not aware exemptions to those sought by Te Arai? I am not aware of exemptions to those sought by Te Arai? I am not aware of any exemptions to those sought by Te Arai? I am not aware of any other Arai? I am not aware of any other submission Arai? I am not aware of any other submission that Arai? I am not aware of any other submission that sought... submission that sought... submission that sought... <INTERRUPTION> Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! That <INTERRUPTION> Order! That sought <INTERRUPTION> Order! That sought on <INTERRUPTION> Order! That sought on exemption, Order! That sought on exemption, short Order! That sought on exemption, short term Order! That sought on exemption, short term or Order! That sought on exemption, short term or otherwise Order! That sought on exemption, short term or otherwise on Order! That sought on exemption, short term or otherwise on the Order! That sought on exemption, short term or otherwise on the basis short term or otherwise on the basis that short term or otherwise on the basis that their short term or otherwise on the basis that their development short term or otherwise on the basis that their development was short term or otherwise on the basis that their development was a short term or otherwise on the basis that their development was a treaty that their development was a treaty settlement that their development was a treaty settlement asset that their development was a treaty settlement asset that that their development was a treaty settlement asset that was settlement asset that was settlement asset that was settlement asset that was transferred to settlement asset that was transferred to them. settlement asset that was transferred to them. As settlement asset that was transferred to them. As I settlement asset that was transferred to them. 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Why did he say yesterday that the reason this yesterday that the reason this yesterday that the reason this yesterday that the reason this individual exemption yesterday that the reason this individual exemption was yesterday that the reason this individual exemption was granted yesterday that the reason this individual exemption was granted to individual exemption was granted to individual exemption was granted to individual exemption was granted to the Te individual exemption was granted to the Te Arai individual exemption was granted to the Te Arai developers individual exemption was granted to the Te Arai developers and individual exemption was granted to the Te Arai developers and no individual exemption was granted to the Te Arai developers and no others the Te Arai developers and no others was the Te Arai developers and no others was because the Te Arai developers and no others was because they the Te Arai developers and no others was because they were the Te Arai developers and no others was because they were the the Te Arai developers and no others was because they were the only the Te Arai developers and no others was because they were the only ones was because they were the only ones who was because they were the only ones who asked was because they were the only ones who asked for was because they were the only ones who asked for it was because they were the only ones who asked for it when was because they were the only ones who asked for it when the was because they were the only ones who asked for it when the Te was because they were the only ones who asked for it when the Te Arai who asked for it when the Te Arai didn't who asked for it when the Te Arai didn't actually who asked for it when the Te Arai didn't actually seek who asked for it when the Te Arai didn't actually seek a who asked for it when the Te Arai didn't actually seek a specific didn't actually seek a specific exemption didn't actually seek a specific exemption for didn't actually seek a specific exemption for themselves, didn't actually seek a specific exemption for themselves, but exemption for themselves, but instead exemption for themselves, but instead asked exemption for themselves, but instead asked for exemption for themselves, but instead asked for a exemption for themselves, but instead asked for a series exemption for themselves, but instead asked for a series of exemption for themselves, but instead asked for a series of land instead asked for a series of land instead asked for a series of land instead asked for a series of land and development instead asked for a series of land and development classes instead asked for a series of land and development classes to instead asked for a series of land and development classes to be and development classes to be excluded and development classes to be excluded from and development classes to be excluded from the and development classes to be excluded from the scope and development classes to be excluded from the scope of and development classes to be excluded from the scope of the and development classes to be excluded from the scope of the bill excluded from the scope of the bill which excluded from the scope of the bill which would excluded from the scope of the bill which would have excluded from the scope of the bill which would have included excluded from the scope of the bill which would have included a excluded from the scope of the bill which would have included a number which would have included a number of which would have included a number of other which would have included a number of other New which would have included a number of other New Zealand which would have included a number of other New Zealand land which would have included a number of other New Zealand land owners? of other New Zealand land owners? 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I'm sure, Mr Speaker, listening carefully to the question, listening carefully to the question, listening carefully to the question, listening carefully to the question, the National listening carefully to the question, the National Party listening carefully to the question, the National Party did listening carefully to the question, the National Party did none listening carefully to the question, the National Party did none of listening carefully to the question, the National Party did none of those the National Party did none of those things, the National Party did none of those things, the the National Party did none of those things, the Parliament the National Party did none of those things, the Parliament of the National Party did none of those things, the Parliament of New things, the Parliament of New Zealand things, the Parliament of New Zealand certainly things, the Parliament of New Zealand certainly put things, the Parliament of New Zealand certainly put together things, the Parliament of New Zealand certainly put together some Zealand certainly put together some Zealand certainly put together some Zealand certainly put together some acts that Zealand certainly put together some acts that might Zealand certainly put together some acts that might have Zealand certainly put together some acts that might have enabled Zealand certainly put together some acts that might have enabled some Zealand certainly put together some acts that might have enabled some of acts that might have enabled some of those acts that might have enabled some of those things acts that might have enabled some of those things but acts that might have enabled some of those things but I acts that might have enabled some of those things but I think acts that might have enabled some of those things but I think it acts that might have enabled some of those things but I think it is acts that might have enabled some of those things but I think it is very those things but I think it is very important those things but I think it is very important that those things but I think it is very important that the those things but I think it is very important that the distinction those things but I think it is very important that the distinction is important that the distinction is important that the distinction is important that the distinction is made. 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The member will resume his seat. unanimously supported by the House. The member will resume his seat. The The member will resume his seat. The specific The member will resume his seat. The specific words The member will resume his seat. The specific words were The member will resume his seat. The specific words were "settlement" The member will resume his seat. 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Mr have that same consideration from this Government? Mr Speaker, have that same consideration from this Government? Mr Speaker, no, have that same consideration from this Government? Mr Speaker, no, it this Government? Mr Speaker, no, it is this Government? Mr Speaker, no, it is actually this Government? Mr Speaker, no, it is actually a this Government? Mr Speaker, no, it is actually a bit this Government? Mr Speaker, no, it is actually a bit more this Government? Mr Speaker, no, it is actually a bit more nuanced this Government? 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Order. with a Chinese border official. Order. The with a Chinese border official. Order. The member with a Chinese border official. Order. The member will with a Chinese border official. Order. The member will now with a Chinese border official. Order. The member will now answer Order. The member will now answer the Order. The member will now answer the question. Order. The member will now answer the question. I Order. The member will now answer the question. I don't Order. The member will now answer the question. I don't recall Order. The member will now answer the question. I don't recall the the question. I don't recall the name the question. I don't recall the name of the question. I don't recall the name of the the question. I don't recall the name of the organisation the question. I don't recall the name of the organisation of the question. 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This he must an earlier question said he had been mistaken about. This he must have mistaken about. This he must have done mistaken about. This he must have done some mistaken about. This he must have done some research mistaken about. This he must have done some research to mistaken about. This he must have done some research to find mistaken about. This he must have done some research to find out mistaken about. 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Therefore, the mistake was about. Therefore, he's the mistake was about. Therefore, he's not the mistake was about. Therefore, he's not given the mistake was about. Therefore, he's not given an the mistake was about. Therefore, he's not given an answer the mistake was about. Therefore, he's not given an answer to the mistake was about. Therefore, he's not given an answer to the he's not given an answer to the House. he's not given an answer to the House. And he's not given an answer to the House. And I he's not given an answer to the House. And I have he's not given an answer to the House. And I have got he's not given an answer to the House. And I have got a he's not given an answer to the House. And I have got a lot he's not given an answer to the House. And I have got a lot of House. And I have got a lot of sympathy House. And I have got a lot of sympathy for House. And I have got a lot of sympathy for the House. And I have got a lot of sympathy for the member House. And I have got a lot of sympathy for the member and House. And I have got a lot of sympathy for the member and his sympathy for the member and his point sympathy for the member and his point of sympathy for the member and his point of order. sympathy for the member and his point of order. Unfortunately sympathy for the member and his point of order. Unfortunately I point of order. Unfortunately I don't point of order. Unfortunately I don't have point of order. Unfortunately I don't have responsibility point of order. Unfortunately I don't have responsibility for point of order. Unfortunately I don't have responsibility for the don't have responsibility for the quality don't have responsibility for the quality of don't have responsibility for the quality of the don't have responsibility for the quality of the answers. don't have responsibility for the quality of the answers. The don't have responsibility for the quality of the answers. The Hon quality of the answers. The Hon Judith quality of the answers. The Hon Judith Collins. quality of the answers. The Hon Judith Collins. At quality of the answers. The Hon Judith Collins. At this quality of the answers. The Hon Judith Collins. At this meeting quality of the answers. The Hon Judith Collins. At this meeting on Judith Collins. At this meeting on 31 Judith Collins. At this meeting on 31 May Judith Collins. At this meeting on 31 May that Judith Collins. At this meeting on 31 May that the Judith Collins. At this meeting on 31 May that the minute Judith Collins. At this meeting on 31 May that the minute now Judith Collins. At this meeting on 31 May that the minute now tells Judith Collins. At this meeting on 31 May that the minute now tells us 31 May that the minute now tells us that 31 May that the minute now tells us that he 31 May that the minute now tells us that he doesn't 31 May that the minute now tells us that he doesn't recall 31 May that the minute now tells us that he doesn't recall who 31 May that the minute now tells us that he doesn't recall who the that he doesn't recall who the intermediaries that he doesn't recall who the intermediaries were, that he doesn't recall who the intermediaries were, who that he doesn't recall who the intermediaries were, who else that he doesn't recall who the intermediaries were, who else was that he doesn't recall who the intermediaries were, who else was at intermediaries were, who else was at that intermediaries were, who else was at that meeting? intermediaries were, who else was at that meeting? I intermediaries were, who else was at that meeting? I reject intermediaries were, who else was at that meeting? 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Well, who was at the meeting? I met with a I said. Well, who was at the meeting? I met with a gentleman I said. Well, who was at the meeting? I met with a gentleman by meeting? I met with a gentleman by the meeting? I met with a gentleman by the name meeting? I met with a gentleman by the name of meeting? I met with a gentleman by the name of Antony meeting? I met with a gentleman by the name of Antony Wilson. meeting? I met with a gentleman by the name of Antony Wilson. The the name of Antony Wilson. The answer the name of Antony Wilson. The answer to the name of Antony Wilson. The answer to the the name of Antony Wilson. The answer to the question the name of Antony Wilson. The answer to the question before the name of Antony Wilson. The answer to the question before was answer to the question before was that answer to the question before was that I answer to the question before was that I didn't answer to the question before was that I didn't remember answer to the question before was that I didn't remember the answer to the question before was that I didn't remember the name answer to the question before was that I didn't remember the name of that I didn't remember the name of the that I didn't remember the name of the organisation. that I didn't remember the name of the organisation. I that I didn't remember the name of the organisation. I believe that I didn't remember the name of the organisation. I believe the that I didn't remember the name of the organisation. I believe the man the organisation. I believe the man is the organisation. I believe the man is a the organisation. I believe the man is a consultant. the organisation. I believe the man is a consultant. Question the organisation. I believe the man is a consultant. Question No. the organisation. I believe the man is a consultant. Question No. 6. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Regional My question is to the Minister for Regional Economic My question is to the Minister for Regional Economic Development: My question is to the Minister for Regional Economic Development: Is My question is to the Minister for Regional Economic Development: Is he Regional Economic Development: Is he concerned Regional Economic Development: Is he concerned about Regional Economic Development: Is he concerned about the Regional Economic Development: Is he concerned about the effect Regional Economic Development: Is he concerned about the effect of concerned about the effect of Government concerned about the effect of Government policies concerned about the effect of Government policies on concerned about the effect of Government policies on regional Government policies on regional property Government policies on regional property development? The The Hon The Hon Shane The Hon Shane Jones. The Hon Shane Jones. Mr The Hon Shane Jones. Mr Speaker, The Hon Shane Jones. Mr Speaker, the The Hon Shane Jones. Mr Speaker, the policies The Hon Shane Jones. Mr Speaker, the policies of The Hon Shane Jones. Mr Speaker, the policies of the The Hon Shane Jones. Mr Speaker, the policies of the government The Hon Shane Jones. Mr Speaker, the policies of the government are policies of the government are varied policies of the government are concerned policies of the government are varied and wide. policies of the government are varied and wide. In policies of the government are varied and wide. In so policies of the government are varied and wide. In so far policies of the government are varied and wide. In so far as varied and wide. In so far as property varied and wide. In so far as property development varied and wide. In so far as property development is varied and wide. In so far as property development is rolling varied and wide. In so far as property development is rolling out property development is rolling out throughout property development is rolling out property property development is rolling out throughout the provinces property development is rolling out throughout the provinces of property development is rolling out throughout the provinces of New throughout the provinces of New Zealand, throughout the provinces of New Zealand, my throughout the provinces of New Zealand, my colleagues throughout the provinces of New Zealand, my colleagues have throughout the provinces of New Zealand, my colleagues have a throughout the provinces of New Zealand, my colleagues have a host Zealand, my colleagues have a host of Zealand, my colleagues have a host of priorities Zealand, my colleagues have a host of priorities to Zealand, my colleagues have a host of priorities to address Zealand, my colleagues have a host of priorities to address housing of priorities to address housing woes of priorities to address housing woes of of priorities to address housing woes of a of priorities to address housing woes of a community of priorities to address housing woes of a community nature, of priorities to address housing woes of a community nature, of of priorities to address housing woes of a community nature, of a woes of a community nature, of a home woes of a community nature, of a home ownership woes of a community nature, of a home ownership nature woes of a community nature, of a home ownership nature and woes of a community nature, of a home ownership nature and I woes of a community nature, of a home ownership nature and I am home ownership nature and I am looking home ownership nature and I am looking forward home ownership nature and I am looking forward to home ownership nature and I am looking forward to the home ownership nature and I am looking forward to the minister looking forward to the minister leading looking forward to the minister leading a looking forward to the minister leading a body looking forward to the minister leading a body of looking forward to the minister leading a body of work looking forward to the minister leading a body of work to looking forward to the minister leading a body of work to protect leading a body of work to protect the leading a body of work to protect the rights leading a body of work to protect the rights of leading a body of work to protect the rights of renters leading a body of work to protect the rights of renters in leading a body of work to protect the rights of renters in provincial the rights of renters in provincial New the rights of renters in provincial New Zealand. the rights of renters in provincial New Zealand. Supplementary. the rights of renters in provincial New Zealand. Supplementary. When New Zealand. Supplementary. When exactly New Zealand. Supplementary. When leading New Zealand. Supplementary. When exactly did he New Zealand. Supplementary. When exactly did he meet New Zealand. Supplementary. When exactly did he meet with New Zealand. Supplementary. When exactly did he meet with John New Zealand. Supplementary. When exactly did he meet with John Derby exactly did he meet with John Derby and exactly did he meet with John Derby and Rick exactly did he meet with John Derby and Rick Kane exactly did he meet with John Derby and Rick Kane to exactly did he meet with John Derby and Rick Kane to discuss exactly did he meet with John Derby and Rick Kane to discuss their and Rick Kane to discuss their concerns and Rick Kane to discuss their concerns about and Rick Kane to discuss their concerns about the and Rick Kane to discuss their concerns about the effect and Rick Kane to discuss their concerns about the effect of and Rick Kane to discuss their concerns about the effect of the concerns about the effect of the overseas concerns about the effect of the overseas investment concerns about the effect of the overseas investment Amendment concerns about the effect of the overseas investment Amendment Bill overseas investment Amendment Bill on overseas investment Amendment Bill on the overseas investment Amendment Bill on the Te overseas investment Amendment Bill on the Te Arai overseas investment Amendment Bill on the Te Arai development, overseas investment Amendment Bill on the Te Arai development, bear overseas investment Amendment Bill on the Te Arai development, bear in on the Te Arai development, bear in mind on the Te Arai development, bear in mind that on the Te Arai development, bear in mind that Russell on the Te Arai development, bear in mind that Russell Kemp on the Te Arai development, bear in mind that Russell Kemp passed on the Te Arai development, bear in mind that Russell Kemp passed away mind that Russell Kemp passed away on mind that Russell Kemp passed away on 11 mind that Russell Kemp passed away on 11 January? mind that Russell Kemp passed away on 11 January? Mr mind that Russell Kemp passed away on 11 January? Mr Speaker, mind that Russell Kemp passed away on 11 January? Mr Speaker, the on 11 January? Mr Speaker, the effect on 11 January? Mr Speaker, the effect on on 11 January? Mr Speaker, the effect on the on 11 January? Mr Speaker, the effect on the Te on 11 January? Mr Speaker, the effect on the Te Arai on 11 January? Mr Speaker, the effect on the Te Arai development effect on the Te Arai development can effect on the Te Arai development can be effect on the Te Arai development can be traced effect on the Te Arai development can be traced back effect on the Te Arai development can be traced back to effect on the Te Arai development can be traced back to the effect on the Te Arai development can be traced back to the excessive can be traced back to the excessive zeal can be traced back to the excessive zeal that can be traced back to the excessive zeal that people can be traced back to the excessive zeal that people chose can be traced back to the excessive zeal that people chose the can be traced back to the excessive zeal that people chose the fortunes zeal that people chose the fortunes of zeal that people chose the fortunes of an zeal that people chose the fortunes of an interjectable zeal that people chose the fortunes of an interjectable bird zeal that people chose the fortunes of an interjectable bird over zeal that people chose the fortunes of an interjectable bird over the of an interjectable bird over the rights of an interjectable bird over the rights of of an interjectable bird over the rights of Indigenous of an interjectable bird over the rights of Indigenous people. of an interjectable bird over the rights of Indigenous people. I of an interjectable bird over the rights of Indigenous people. I was rights of Indigenous people. I was well rights of Indigenous people. I was well aware rights of Indigenous people. I was well aware of rights of Indigenous people. I was well aware of that rights of Indigenous people. I was well aware of that bird rights of Indigenous people. I was well aware of that bird called well aware of that bird called Atura, well aware of that bird called Atura, which well aware of that bird called Atura, which means well aware of that bird called Atura, which means a well aware of that bird called Atura, which means a fairytale. Atura, which means a fairytale. Consequently, Atura, which means a fairytale. Consequently, I Atura, which means a fairytale. Consequently, I have Atura, which means a fairytale. Consequently, I have always Atura, which means a fairytale. Consequently, I have always been Consequently, I have always been sympathic Consequently, I have always been sympathic to Consequently, I have always been sympathic to the Consequently, I have always been sympathic to the woes Consequently, I have always been sympathic to the woes they Consequently, I have always been sympathic to the woes they have sympathic to the woes they have suffered sympathic to the woes they have suffered and sympathic to the woes they have suffered and it sympathic to the woes they have suffered and it has sympathic to the woes they have suffered and it has reminded sympathic to the woes they have suffered and it has reminded many suffered and it has reminded many that suffered and it has reminded many that we suffered and it has reminded many that we definitely suffered and it has reminded many that we definitely put suffered and it has reminded many that we definitely put the suffered and it has reminded many that we definitely put the boundary that we definitely put the boundary in that we definitely put the boundary in the that we definitely put the boundary in the wrong that we definitely put the boundary in the wrong place that we definitely put the boundary in the wrong place for that we definitely put the boundary in the wrong place for the that we definitely put the boundary in the wrong place for the super in the wrong place for the super city. in the wrong place for the super city. They in the wrong place for the super city. They would in the wrong place for the super city. They would have in the wrong place for the super city. They would have had in the wrong place for the super city. They would have had greater city. They would have had greater prospects city. They would have had greater prospects had city. They would have had greater prospects had my city. They would have had greater prospects had my own city. They would have had greater prospects had my own Regional prospects had my own Regional Council prospects had my own Regional Council considered prospects had my own Regional Council considered that prospects had my own Regional Council considered that issue. prospects had my own Regional Council considered that issue. I Council considered that issue. I cannot Council considered that issue. I cannot remember Council considered that issue. I cannot remember the Council considered that issue. I cannot remember the exact Council considered that issue. I cannot remember the exact date, Council considered that issue. I cannot remember the exact date, but cannot remember the exact date, but it cannot remember the exact date, but it would cannot remember the exact date, but it would have cannot remember the exact date, but it would have been cannot remember the exact date, but it would have been very cannot remember the exact date, but it would have been very close, cannot remember the exact date, but it would have been very close, sir, it would have been very close, sir, after it would have been very close, sir, after the it would have been very close, sir, after the Tunghunga it would have been very close, sir, after the Tunghunga for it would have been very close, sir, after the Tunghunga for said it would have been very close, sir, after the Tunghunga for said chief. after the Tunghunga for said chief. Supplementary. after the Tunghunga for said chief. Supplementary. Did after the Tunghunga for said chief. Supplementary. Did he after the Tunghunga for said chief. Supplementary. Did he discuss after the Tunghunga for said chief. Supplementary. Did he discuss the Supplementary. Did he discuss the concerns Supplementary. Did he discuss the concerns raised Supplementary. Did he discuss the concerns raised by Supplementary. Did he discuss the concerns raised by those Supplementary. Did he discuss the concerns raised by those gentlemen concerns raised by those gentlemen with concerns raised by those gentlemen concerns concerns raised by those gentlemen with David Parker concerns raised by those gentlemen with David Parker soon concerns raised by those gentlemen with David Parker soon there concerns raised by those gentlemen with David Parker soon there join with David Parker soon there join after? with David Parker soon there join after? Mr with David Parker soon there join after? Mr Speaker, with David Parker soon there join after? Mr Speaker, I with David Parker soon there join after? Mr Speaker, I have with David Parker soon there join after? Mr Speaker, I have actually after? Mr Speaker, I have actually done after? Mr Speaker, I have actually done more after? Mr Speaker, I have actually done more than after? Mr Speaker, I have actually done more than that. after? Mr Speaker, I have actually done more than that. I after? Mr Speaker, I have actually done more than that. I have after? Mr Speaker, I have actually done more than that. I have been done more than that. I have been very done more than that. I have been very loud done more than that. I have been very loud on done more than that. I have been very loud on the done more than that. I have been very loud on the marae done more than that. I have been very loud on the marae in done more than that. I have been very loud on the marae in my done more than that. I have been very loud on the marae in my own very loud on the marae in my own area very loud on the marae in my own area in very loud on the marae in my own area in my very loud on the marae in my own area in my community very loud on the marae in my own area in my community after very loud on the marae in my own area in my community after I very loud on the marae in my own area in my community after I was area in my community after I was approached area in my community after I was approached by area in my community after I was approached by someone area in my community after I was approached by someone that area in my community after I was approached by someone that I area in my community after I was approached by someone that I felt area in my community after I was approached by someone that I felt I approached by someone that I felt I should approached by someone that I felt I should have approached by someone that I felt I should have no approached by someone that I felt I should have no fear approached by someone that I felt I should have no fear or approached by someone that I felt I should have no fear or favour should have no fear or favour following should have no fear or favour following his should have no fear or favour following his advice should have no fear or favour following his advice encouraging should have no fear or favour following his advice encouraging in following his advice encouraging in the following his advice encouraging in the meet following his advice encouraging in the meet with following his advice encouraging in the meet with these following his advice encouraging in the meet with these developers, following his advice encouraging in the meet with these developers, your the meet with these developers, your old the meet with these developers, your old boss. the meet with these developers, your old boss. Upon the meet with these developers, your old boss. Upon doing the meet with these developers, your old boss. Upon doing that, the meet with these developers, your old boss. Upon doing that, sir... old boss. Upon doing that, sir... Not old boss. Upon doing that, sir... Not my old boss. Upon doing that, sir... Not my old old boss. Upon doing that, sir... Not my old boss. old boss. Upon doing that, sir... Not my old boss. Upon old boss. Upon doing that, sir... Not my old boss. Upon doing old boss. Upon doing that, sir... Not my old boss. Upon doing that, Not my old boss. Upon doing that, sir, Not my old boss. Upon doing that, sir, I Not my old boss. Upon doing that, sir, I proceeded Not my old boss. Upon doing that, sir, I proceeded to Not my old boss. Upon doing that, sir, I proceeded to alert Not my old boss. Upon doing that, sir, I proceeded to alert my Not my old boss. Upon doing that, sir, I proceeded to alert my Caucus, sir, I proceeded to alert my Caucus, my sir, I proceeded to alert my Caucus, my colleagues sir, I proceeded to alert my Caucus, my colleagues to sir, I proceeded to alert my Caucus, my colleagues to a sir, I proceeded to alert my Caucus, my colleagues to a potential sir, I proceeded to alert my Caucus, my colleagues to a potential new my colleagues to a potential new source my colleagues to a potential new source of my colleagues to a potential new source of Treaty my colleagues to a potential new source of Treaty grievance my colleagues to a potential new source of Treaty grievance as my colleagues to a potential new source of Treaty grievance as we source of Treaty grievance as we exercised source of Treaty grievance as we exercised Article source of Treaty grievance as we exercised Article 1 source of Treaty grievance as we exercised Article 1 Powers source of Treaty grievance as we exercised Article 1 Powers of exercised Article 1 Powers of Sovereignty exercised Article 1 Powers of exercised exercised Article 1 Powers of Sovereignty in order exercised Article 1 Powers of Sovereignty in order to exercised Article 1 Powers of Sovereignty in order to protect exercised Article 1 Powers of Sovereignty in order to protect our Sovereignty in order to protect our Sovereign Sovereignty in order to protect our Sovereign interest Sovereignty in order to protect our Sovereign interest before Sovereignty in order to protect our Sovereign interest before the Sovereign interest before the Transpacific Sovereign interest before the Transpacific deal Sovereign interest before the Transpacific deal was Sovereign interest before the Transpacific deal was passed, Sovereign interest before the Transpacific deal was passed, with Transpacific deal was passed, with may Transpacific deal was passed, with Transpacific Transpacific deal was passed, with may inadvertently create Transpacific deal was passed, with may inadvertently create a Transpacific deal was passed, with may inadvertently create a new Transpacific deal was passed, with may inadvertently create a new raft may inadvertently create a new raft of may inadvertently create a new raft of grievances may inadvertently create a new raft of grievances for may inadvertently create a new raft of grievances for settlement may inadvertently create a new raft of grievances for settlement tribes. of grievances for settlement tribes. Sir, of grievances for settlement tribes. Sir, I of grievances for settlement tribes. Sir, I have of grievances for settlement tribes. Sir, I have said of grievances for settlement tribes. Sir, I have said it of grievances for settlement tribes. Sir, I have said it then. of grievances for settlement tribes. Sir, I have said it then. I of grievances for settlement tribes. Sir, I have said it then. I said of grievances for settlement tribes. Sir, I have said it then. I said it Sir, I have said it then. I said it during Sir, I have said it then. I said it during our Sir, I have said it then. I said it during our discussions. Sir, I have said it then. I said it during our discussions. But Sir, I have said it then. I said it during our discussions. But I Sir, I have said it then. I said it during our discussions. But I am during our discussions. But I am faithful during our discussions. But I am faithful to during our discussions. But I am faithful to the during our discussions. But I am faithful to the solidarity during our discussions. But I am faithful to the solidarity of during our discussions. But I am faithful to the solidarity of the faithful to the solidarity of the Cabinet's faithful to the solidarity of the Cabinet's position. faithful to the solidarity of the Cabinet's position. Supplementary. faithful to the solidarity of the Cabinet's position. Supplementary. I Cabinet's position. Supplementary. I am Cabinet's position. Supplementary. I am still Cabinet's position. Supplementary. I am still trying Cabinet's position. Supplementary. I am still trying to Cabinet's position. Supplementary. I am still trying to get Cabinet's position. Supplementary. I am still trying to get an Cabinet's position. Supplementary. I am still trying to get an answer Cabinet's position. Supplementary. 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I am hopeful these changes will I am hopeful these changes will receive I am hopeful these changes will receive support I am hopeful these changes will receive support from I am hopeful these changes will receive support from across I am hopeful these changes will receive support from across the receive support from across the political receive support from across the political spectrum receive support from across the political spectrum as receive support from across the political spectrum as we receive support from across the political spectrum as we continue receive support from across the political spectrum as we continue in political spectrum as we continue in our political spectrum as we continue in our eradication political spectrum as we continue in our eradication efforts. political spectrum as we continue in our eradication efforts. To political spectrum as we continue in our eradication efforts. To the our eradication efforts. To the minute, our eradication efforts. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Health: My question is to the Minister of Health: On My question is to the Minister of Health: On which My question is to the Minister of Health: On which date My question is to the Minister of Health: On which date and My question is to the Minister of Health: On which date and by My question is to the Minister of Health: On which date and by what Health: On which date and by what method Health: On which date and by what method did Health: On which date and by what method did he Health: On which date and by what method did he advise Health: On which date and by what method did he advise Cabinet Health: On which date and by what method did he advise Cabinet of Health: On which date and by what method did he advise Cabinet of his method did he advise Cabinet of his decision method did he advise Cabinet of his decision to method did he advise Cabinet of his decision to dispense method did he advise Cabinet of his decision to dispense with method did he advise Cabinet of his decision to dispense with the decision to dispense with the national decision to dispense with the national health decision to dispense with the national health targets? The The Hon The Hon Dr The Hon Dr David The Hon Dr David Clark. The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, this The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, this matter The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, this matter did The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, this matter did not The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, this matter did not need The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, this matter did not need to The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, this matter did not need to go The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, this matter did not need to go to this matter did not need to go to Cabinet. this matter did not need to go to Cabinet. The this matter did not need to go to Cabinet. The data this matter did not need to go to Cabinet. The data is this matter did not need to go to Cabinet. The data is still this matter did not need to go to Cabinet. The data is still being Cabinet. The data is still being collected. Cabinet. The data is still being collected. 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Mr Speaker, where there improvement? Mr Speaker, where there are improvement? Mr Speaker, where there improvement? improvement? Mr Speaker, where there are a broad improvement? Mr Speaker, where there are a broad range improvement? Mr Speaker, where there are a broad range of improvement? 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Question No. setting two performance targets for the police. Question No. 12. 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