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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. 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Following request from the Minister of Health for New the Minister of Health for New Zealand the Minister of Health for New Zealand Defence the Minister of Health for New Zealand Defence Force the Minister of Health for New Zealand Defence Force assistance the Minister of Health for New Zealand Defence Force assistance in Zealand Defence Force assistance in the Zealand Defence Force assistance in the event Zealand Defence Force assistance in the event of Zealand Defence Force assistance in the event of industrial Zealand Defence Force assistance in the event of industrial action Zealand Defence Force assistance in the event of industrial action by the event of industrial action by nurses, the event of industrial action by nurses, I the event of industrial action by nurses, I approved, the event of industrial action by nurses, I approved, under the event of industrial action by nurses, I approved, under section the event of industrial action by nurses, I approved, under section 9 nurses, I approved, under section 9 of nurses, I approved, under section 9 of the nurses, I approved, under section 9 of the Defence nurses, I approved, under section 9 of the Defence Act nurses, I approved, under section 9 of the Defence Act 1990, nurses, I approved, under section 9 of the Defence Act 1990, the of the Defence Act 1990, the provision of the Defence Act 1990, the provision of of the Defence Act 1990, the provision of a of the Defence Act 1990, the provision of a small of the Defence Act 1990, the provision of a small detachment of the Defence Act 1990, the provision of a small detachment of provision of a small detachment of up provision of a small detachment of up to provision of a small detachment of up to 20 provision of a small detachment of up to 20 regular provision of a small detachment of up to 20 regular Force provision of a small detachment of up to 20 regular Force nurses provision of a small detachment of up to 20 regular Force nurses able up to 20 regular Force nurses able to up to 20 regular Force nurses able to perform up to 20 regular Force nurses able to perform general up to 20 regular Force nurses able to perform general nursing up to 20 regular Force nurses able to perform general nursing duties, to perform general nursing duties, if to perform general nursing duties, if required, to perform general nursing duties, if required, in to perform general nursing duties, if required, in accordance to perform general nursing duties, if required, in accordance with to perform general nursing duties, if required, in accordance with the if required, in accordance with the priorities if required, in accordance with the priorities as if required, in accordance with the priorities as provided if required, in accordance with the priorities as provided by if required, in accordance with the priorities as provided by the priorities as provided by the Ministry priorities as provided by the Ministry of priorities as provided by the Ministry of Health. priorities as provided by the Ministry of Health. 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On 12 July, 17 New Zealand Defence On 12 July, 17 New Zealand Defence Force On 12 July, 17 New Zealand Defence Force nurses On 12 July, 17 New Zealand Defence Force nurses undertook On 12 July, 17 New Zealand Defence Force nurses undertook nursing Force nurses undertook nursing duties Force nurses undertook nursing duties at Force nurses undertook nursing duties at five Force nurses undertook nursing duties at five Ministry Force nurses undertook nursing duties at five Ministry of Force nurses undertook nursing duties at five Ministry of Health duties at five Ministry of Health priority duties at five Ministry of Health priority locations duties at five Ministry of Health priority locations across duties at five Ministry of Health priority locations across New priority locations across New Zealand priority locations across New Zealand to priority locations across New Zealand to support priority locations across New Zealand to support the priority locations across New Zealand to support the provision priority locations across New Zealand to support the provision of Zealand to support the provision of life Zealand to support the provision of life preserving Zealand to support the provision of life preserving services Zealand to support the provision of life preserving services agreed life preserving services agreed between life preserving services agreed between the life preserving services agreed between the DHBs life preserving services agreed between the DHBs and life preserving services agreed between the DHBs and the life preserving services agreed between the DHBs and the New life preserving services agreed between the DHBs and the New Zealand between the DHBs and the New Zealand Nurses between the DHBs and the New Zealand Nurses orgnisation. between the DHBs and the New Zealand Nurses orgnisation. 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I want to begin by expressing my party's admiration by expressing my party's admiration for by expressing my party's admiration for all by expressing my party's admiration for all our by expressing my party's admiration for all our Defence by expressing my party's admiration for all our Defence Force by expressing my party's admiration for all our Defence Force personnel, for all our Defence Force personnel, both for all our Defence Force personnel, both regular for all our Defence Force personnel, both regular and for all our Defence Force personnel, both regular and reserve for all our Defence Force personnel, both regular and reserve itself for all our Defence Force personnel, both regular and reserve itself who both regular and reserve itself who serve both regular and reserve itself who serve -- both regular and reserve itself who serve -- reservists both regular and reserve itself who serve -- reservists who both regular and reserve itself who serve -- reservists who serve both regular and reserve itself who serve -- reservists who serve our serve -- reservists who serve our country serve -- reservists who serve our country with serve -- reservists who serve our country with distinction, serve -- reservists who serve our country with distinction, often serve -- reservists who serve our country with distinction, often in country with distinction, often in dangerous country with distinction, often in dangerous places. country with distinction, often in dangerous places. 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I need for the Government to invoke section 9? I wonder need for the Government to invoke section 9? I wonder if need for the Government to invoke section 9? I wonder if the need for the Government to invoke section 9? I wonder if the Ministry section 9? I wonder if the Ministry of section 9? I wonder if the Ministry of Defence section 9? I wonder if the Ministry of Defence actually section 9? I wonder if the Ministry of Defence actually scrutinised section 9? I wonder if the Ministry of Defence actually scrutinised what of Defence actually scrutinised what this of Defence actually scrutinised what this request of Defence actually scrutinised what this request really of Defence actually scrutinised what this request really meant of Defence actually scrutinised what this request really meant for this request really meant for Defence this request really meant for Defence Force this request really meant for Defence Force personnel. this request really meant for Defence Force personnel. Because this request really meant for Defence Force personnel. Because it Defence Force personnel. Because it just Defence Force personnel. Because it just shows Defence Force personnel. Because it just shows quite Defence Force personnel. Because it just shows quite how Defence Force personnel. Because it just shows quite how ham-fisted Defence Force personnel. Because it just shows quite how ham-fisted the just shows quite how ham-fisted the industrial just shows quite how ham-fisted the industrial relations just shows quite how ham-fisted the industrial relations management just shows quite how ham-fisted the industrial relations management of industrial relations management of the industrial relations management of the nurses industrial relations management of the nurses industrial industrial relations management of the nurses industrial dispute industrial relations management of the nurses industrial dispute has the nurses industrial dispute has become. the nurses industrial dispute has become. When the nurses industrial dispute has become. When we're the nurses industrial dispute has become. When we're calling the nurses industrial dispute has become. When we're calling in the nurses industrial dispute has become. When we're calling in the become. When we're calling in the Army become. When we're calling in the Army to become. 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It behoves this Government to settle this action dispute. It behoves this Government to settle this action and dispute. It behoves this Government to settle this action and actually to settle this action and actually to to settle this action and actually to be to settle this action and actually to be a to settle this action and actually to be a little to settle this action and actually to be a little bit to settle this action and actually to be a little bit more to settle this action and actually to be a little bit more up-front to be a little bit more up-front with to be a little bit more up-front with New to be a little bit more up-front with New Zealanders to be a little bit more up-front with New Zealanders about to be a little bit more up-front with New Zealanders about what to be a little bit more up-front with New Zealanders about what they with New Zealanders about what they are with New Zealanders about what they are doing with New Zealanders about what they are doing and with New Zealanders about what they are doing and when. with New Zealanders about what they are doing and when. It with New Zealanders about what they are doing and when. It has with New Zealanders about what they are doing and when. It has been are doing and when. It has been nearly are doing and when. It has been nearly a are doing and when. It has been nearly a fortnight are doing and when. It has been nearly a fortnight since are doing and when. It has been nearly a fortnight since that nearly a fortnight since that strike. nearly a fortnight since that strike. We nearly a fortnight since that strike. We only nearly a fortnight since that strike. We only find nearly a fortnight since that strike. We only find out nearly a fortnight since that strike. We only find out today nearly a fortnight since that strike. We only find out today that strike. We only find out today that we strike. We only find out today that we had strike. We only find out today that we had Defence strike. We only find out today that we had Defence Force strike. We only find out today that we had Defence Force personnel we had Defence Force personnel propping we had Defence Force personnel propping up we had Defence Force personnel propping up our we had Defence Force personnel propping up our health we had Defence Force personnel propping up our health services. we had Defence Force personnel propping up our health services. And propping up our health services. And the propping up our health services. And the dispute propping up our health services. And the dispute remains propping up our health services. And the dispute remains unsettled. propping up our health services. And the dispute remains unsettled. I'm the dispute remains unsettled. I'm sure the dispute remains unsettled. I'm sure the the dispute remains unsettled. I'm sure the Ministry the dispute remains unsettled. I'm sure the Ministry of the dispute remains unsettled. I'm sure the Ministry of Defence the dispute remains unsettled. I'm sure the Ministry of Defence is sure the Ministry of Defence is very, sure the Ministry of Defence is very, very sure the Ministry of Defence is very, very concerned sure the Ministry of Defence is very, very concerned to sure the Ministry of Defence is very, very concerned to avoid sure the Ministry of Defence is very, very concerned to avoid having very, very concerned to avoid having to very, very concerned to avoid having to take very, very concerned to avoid having to take this very, very concerned to avoid having to take this extraordinary very, very concerned to avoid having to take this extraordinary action to take this extraordinary action again. to take this extraordinary action again. It to take this extraordinary action again. It falls to take this extraordinary action again. It falls to to take this extraordinary action again. It falls to the to take this extraordinary action again. It falls to the Government, again. It falls to the Government, and again. It falls to the Government, and it again. It falls to the Government, and it falls again. It falls to the Government, and it falls to again. It falls to the Government, and it falls to the again. It falls to the Government, and it falls to the Minister again. It falls to the Government, and it falls to the Minister of and it falls to the Minister of Health and it falls to the Minister of Health to and it falls to the Minister of Health to sought and it falls to the Minister of Health to sought this and it falls to the Minister of Health to sought this thing and it falls to the Minister of Health to sought this thing out Health to sought this thing out quickly. Health to sought this thing out quickly. Hear, Health to sought this thing out quickly. Hear, hear. Health to sought this thing out quickly. Hear, hear. A Health to sought this thing out quickly. Hear, hear. A point Health to sought this thing out quickly. Hear, hear. A point of quickly. Hear, hear. A point of order, quickly. Hear, hear. A point of order, the quickly. Hear, hear. A point of order, the Acting quickly. Hear, hear. A point of order, the Acting PM. quickly. Hear, hear. A point of order, the Acting PM. I quickly. Hear, hear. A point of order, the Acting PM. I seek quickly. Hear, hear. A point of order, the Acting PM. I seek leave order, the Acting PM. I seek leave to order, the Acting PM. I seek leave to table order, the Acting PM. I seek leave to table a order, the Acting PM. I seek leave to table a document order, the Acting PM. I seek leave to table a document evidencing order, the Acting PM. I seek leave to table a document evidencing when to table a document evidencing when the to table a document evidencing when the armed to table a document evidencing when the armed forces to table a document evidencing when the armed forces employed to table a document evidencing when the armed forces employed personnel the armed forces employed personnel in the armed forces employed personnel in an the armed forces employed personnel in an industrial the armed forces employed personnel in an industrial dispute, the armed forces employed personnel in an industrial dispute, namely in an industrial dispute, namely Nationals in an industrial dispute, namely Nationals Warren in an industrial dispute, namely Nationals Warren Cooper in an industrial dispute, namely Nationals Warren Cooper in in an industrial dispute, namely Nationals Warren Cooper in 1993 in an industrial dispute, namely Nationals Warren Cooper in 1993 in Nationals Warren Cooper in 1993 in the Nationals Warren Cooper in 1993 in the prison Nationals Warren Cooper in 1993 in the prison system Nationals Warren Cooper in 1993 in the prison system strike. the prison system strike. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> What <INTERRUPTION> What is <INTERRUPTION> What is the <INTERRUPTION> What is the document? <INTERRUPTION> What is the document? 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Can I echo the comments The Hon David Clark. Can I echo the comments of The Hon David Clark. Can I echo the comments of the The Hon David Clark. Can I echo the comments of the Ministry The Hon David Clark. Can I echo the comments of the Ministry of The Hon David Clark. Can I echo the comments of the Ministry of Defence? comments of the Ministry of Defence? And comments of the Ministry of Defence? And thank comments of the Ministry of Defence? And thank the comments of the Ministry of Defence? And thank the Defence comments of the Ministry of Defence? And thank the Defence Force comments of the Ministry of Defence? And thank the Defence Force for And thank the Defence Force for supplying And thank the Defence Force for supplying 17 And thank the Defence Force for supplying 17 nurses And thank the Defence Force for supplying 17 nurses to And thank the Defence Force for supplying 17 nurses to work And thank the Defence Force for supplying 17 nurses to work in And thank the Defence Force for supplying 17 nurses to work in DHBs supplying 17 nurses to work in DHBs New supplying 17 nurses to work in DHBs New Jersey supplying 17 nurses to work in DHBs New Jersey the supplying 17 nurses to work in DHBs New Jersey the nurses supplying 17 nurses to work in DHBs New Jersey the nurses -- supplying 17 nurses to work in DHBs New Jersey the nurses -- during supplying 17 nurses to work in DHBs New Jersey the nurses -- during the New Jersey the nurses -- during the nurses' New Jersey the nurses -- during the nurses' strike. New Jersey the nurses -- during the nurses' strike. I New Jersey the nurses -- during the nurses' strike. I want New Jersey the nurses -- during the nurses' strike. I want to New Jersey the nurses -- during the nurses' strike. I want to thank New Jersey the nurses -- during the nurses' strike. I want to thank the nurses' strike. I want to thank the individual nurses' strike. I want to thank the individual Defence nurses' strike. I want to thank the individual Defence Force nurses' strike. I want to thank the individual Defence Force nurses nurses' strike. I want to thank the individual Defence Force nurses who individual Defence Force nurses who undertook individual Defence Force nurses who undertook the individual Defence Force nurses who undertook the duties. individual Defence Force nurses who undertook the duties. The individual Defence Force nurses who undertook the duties. The Defence undertook the duties. The Defence Force undertook the duties. The Defence Force also undertook the duties. The Defence Force also supplied undertook the duties. The Defence Force also supplied medical undertook the duties. The Defence Force also supplied medical support Force also supplied medical support during Force also supplied medical support during the... Force also supplied medical support during the... Can Force also supplied medical support during the... Can the Force also supplied medical support during the... Can the member Force also supplied medical support during the... Can the member talk during the... Can the member talk into during the... Can the member talk into the during the... Can the member talk into the mic during the... Can the member talk into the mic and during the... Can the member talk into the mic and can during the... Can the member talk into the mic and can the during the... Can the member talk into the mic and can the people during the... Can the member talk into the mic and can the people who into the mic and can the people who are into the mic and can the people who are looking into the mic and can the people who are looking at into the mic and can the people who are looking at them... into the mic and can the people who are looking at them... I into the mic and can the people who are looking at them... I apologise. are looking at them... I apologise. I are looking at them... I apologise. I have are looking at them... I apologise. I have a are looking at them... I apologise. I have a quiet are looking at them... I apologise. I have a quiet voice. are looking at them... I apologise. I have a quiet voice. <INTERRUPTION> I have a quiet voice. <INTERRUPTION> I I have a quiet voice. <INTERRUPTION> I will I have a quiet voice. <INTERRUPTION> I will start I have a quiet voice. <INTERRUPTION> I will start again. I have a quiet voice. <INTERRUPTION> I will start again. Can I have a quiet voice. <INTERRUPTION> I will start again. Can I I have a quiet voice. <INTERRUPTION> I will start again. Can I please I will start again. Can I please echo I will start again. Can I please echo the I will start again. Can I please echo the comments I will start again. Can I please echo the comments of I will start again. Can I please echo the comments of the I will start again. Can I please echo the comments of the Minister echo the comments of the Minister for echo the comments of the Minister for Defence echo the comments of the Minister for Defence and echo the comments of the Minister for Defence and thank echo the comments of the Minister for Defence and thank the echo the comments of the Minister for Defence and thank the Defence for Defence and thank the Defence Force for Defence and thank the Defence Force now for Defence and thank the Defence Force now supplying for Defence and thank the Defence Force now supplying 17 for Defence and thank the Defence Force now supplying 17 nurses for Defence and thank the Defence Force now supplying 17 nurses to Force now supplying 17 nurses to work Force now supplying 17 nurses to work in Force now supplying 17 nurses to work in DHBs Force now supplying 17 nurses to work in DHBs during Force now supplying 17 nurses to work in DHBs during the Force now supplying 17 nurses to work in DHBs during the nurses' work in DHBs during the nurses' strike. work in DHBs during the nurses' strike. I work in DHBs during the nurses' strike. I also work in DHBs during the nurses' strike. I also want work in DHBs during the nurses' strike. I also want to work in DHBs during the nurses' strike. I also want to thank work in DHBs during the nurses' strike. I also want to thank the strike. I also want to thank the individual strike. I also want to thank the individual Defence strike. I also want to thank the individual Defence Force strike. I also want to thank the individual Defence Force nurses strike. I also want to thank the individual Defence Force nurses who individual Defence Force nurses who undertook individual Defence Force nurses who undertook the individual Defence Force nurses who undertook the duties. individual Defence Force nurses who undertook the duties. Of individual Defence Force nurses who undertook the duties. Of course, individual Defence Force nurses who undertook the duties. Of course, the undertook the duties. Of course, the Defence undertook the duties. Of course, the Defence Force undertook the duties. Of course, the Defence Force also undertook the duties. Of course, the Defence Force also were undertook the duties. Of course, the Defence Force also were involved undertook the duties. Of course, the Defence Force also were involved in Defence Force also were involved in the Defence Force also were involved in the Christchurch Defence Force also were involved in the Christchurch earthquake Defence Force also were involved in the Christchurch earthquake where the Christchurch earthquake where they the Christchurch earthquake where they supplied the Christchurch earthquake where they supplied medical the Christchurch earthquake where they supplied medical personnel the Christchurch earthquake where they supplied medical personnel to they supplied medical personnel to help they supplied medical personnel to help out they supplied medical personnel to help out with they supplied medical personnel to help out with that they supplied medical personnel to help out with that effort. they supplied medical personnel to help out with that effort. We they supplied medical personnel to help out with that effort. We are help out with that effort. We are always help out with that effort. We are always grateful help out with that effort. We are always grateful for help out with that effort. We are always grateful for their help out with that effort. We are always grateful for their support. always grateful for their support. As always grateful for their support. As this always grateful for their support. As this was always grateful for their support. As this was the always grateful for their support. As this was the first always grateful for their support. As this was the first industrial As this was the first industrial action As this was the first industrial action by As this was the first industrial action by nurses As this was the first industrial action by nurses in As this was the first industrial action by nurses in a As this was the first industrial action by nurses in a generation, As this was the first industrial action by nurses in a generation, it action by nurses in a generation, it was action by nurses in a generation, it was prudent action by nurses in a generation, it was prudent to action by nurses in a generation, it was prudent to do action by nurses in a generation, it was prudent to do all action by nurses in a generation, it was prudent to do all that action by nurses in a generation, it was prudent to do all that we action by nurses in a generation, it was prudent to do all that we could was prudent to do all that we could to was prudent to do all that we could to ensure was prudent to do all that we could to ensure our was prudent to do all that we could to ensure our hospitals was prudent to do all that we could to ensure our hospitals had was prudent to do all that we could to ensure our hospitals had enough to ensure our hospitals had enough nurses to ensure our hospitals had enough nurses in to ensure our hospitals had enough nurses in place to ensure our hospitals had enough nurses in place for to ensure our hospitals had enough nurses in place for the to ensure our hospitals had enough nurses in place for the duration to ensure our hospitals had enough nurses in place for the duration of nurses in place for the duration of the nurses in place for the duration of the strike. nurses in place for the duration of the strike. It nurses in place for the duration of the strike. It was nurses in place for the duration of the strike. It was for nurses in place for the duration of the strike. It was for that nurses in place for the duration of the strike. It was for that reason the strike. It was for that reason that the strike. It was for that reason that as the strike. It was for that reason that as Minister the strike. It was for that reason that as Minister of the strike. It was for that reason that as Minister of Health the strike. It was for that reason that as Minister of Health I that as Minister of Health I requested that as Minister of Health I requested support that as Minister of Health I requested support from that as Minister of Health I requested support from the that as Minister of Health I requested support from the Defence requested support from the Defence Force. requested support from the Defence Force. The requested support from the Defence Force. The contribution requested support from the Defence Force. The contribution was requested support from the Defence Force. The contribution was part requested support from the Defence Force. The contribution was part of Force. The contribution was part of a Force. The contribution was part of a much Force. The contribution was part of a much larger Force. The contribution was part of a much larger effort Force. The contribution was part of a much larger effort to Force. The contribution was part of a much larger effort to ensure a much larger effort to ensure patient a much larger effort to ensure patient safety a much larger effort to ensure patient safety remained a much larger effort to ensure patient safety remained a a much larger effort to ensure patient safety remained a priority patient safety remained a priority during patient safety remained a priority during the patient safety remained a priority during the 24 patient safety remained a priority during the 24 hours patient safety remained a priority during the 24 hours of patient safety remained a priority during the 24 hours of strike during the 24 hours of strike action. during the 24 hours of strike action. With during the 24 hours of strike action. With that during the 24 hours of strike action. With that in during the 24 hours of strike action. With that in mind, during the 24 hours of strike action. With that in mind, I during the 24 hours of strike action. With that in mind, I would action. With that in mind, I would also action. With that in mind, I would also like action. With that in mind, I would also like to action. With that in mind, I would also like to take action. With that in mind, I would also like to take this action. With that in mind, I would also like to take this opportunity also like to take this opportunity to also like to take this opportunity to pay also like to take this opportunity to pay tribute also like to take this opportunity to pay tribute to also like to take this opportunity to pay tribute to the also like to take this opportunity to pay tribute to the constructive to pay tribute to the constructive way to pay tribute to the constructive way the to pay tribute to the constructive way the New to pay tribute to the constructive way the New Zealand to pay tribute to the constructive way the New Zealand nurses way the New Zealand nurses organisations way the New Zealand nurses organisations and way the New Zealand nurses organisations and DHBs way the New Zealand nurses organisations and DHBs worked way the New Zealand nurses organisations and DHBs worked today organisations and DHBs worked today to organisations and DHBs worked today to ensure... organisations and DHBs worked today to ensure... 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It's a reflection on the It's a reflection on the professionalism It's a reflection on the professionalism and It's a reflection on the professionalism and dedication It's a reflection on the professionalism and dedication of professionalism and dedication of all professionalism and dedication of all involved professionalism and dedication of all involved that professionalism and dedication of all involved that despite professionalism and dedication of all involved that despite the all involved that despite the disruption all involved that despite the disruption caused all involved that despite the disruption caused by all involved that despite the disruption caused by industrial disruption caused by industrial action disruption caused by industrial action our disruption caused by industrial action our hospitals disruption caused by industrial action our hospitals continued disruption caused by industrial action our hospitals continued to action our hospitals continued to provide action our hospitals continued to provide quality action our hospitals continued to provide quality emergency action our hospitals continued to provide quality emergency care. action our hospitals continued to provide quality emergency care. It's provide quality emergency care. It's not provide quality emergency care. It's not my provide quality emergency care. It's not my place provide quality emergency care. It's not my place to provide quality emergency care. It's not my place to comment provide quality emergency care. It's not my place to comment in provide quality emergency care. It's not my place to comment in detail provide quality emergency care. It's not my place to comment in detail at not my place to comment in detail at this not my place to comment in detail at this stage not my place to comment in detail at this stage on not my place to comment in detail at this stage on their not my place to comment in detail at this stage on their ongoing not my place to comment in detail at this stage on their ongoing process, this stage on their ongoing process, think this stage on their ongoing process, think remain this stage on their ongoing process, think remain hopeful this stage on their ongoing process, think remain hopeful a this stage on their ongoing process, think remain hopeful a deep this stage on their ongoing process, think remain hopeful a deep can this stage on their ongoing process, think remain hopeful a deep can be think remain hopeful a deep can be found think remain hopeful a deep can be found and think remain hopeful a deep can be found and we think remain hopeful a deep can be found and we will think remain hopeful a deep can be found and we will not think remain hopeful a deep can be found and we will not need think remain hopeful a deep can be found and we will not need to think remain hopeful a deep can be found and we will not need to call found and we will not need to call on found and we will not need to call on the found and we will not need to call on the Defence found and we will not need to call on the Defence Force found and we will not need to call on the Defence Force for found and we will not need to call on the Defence Force for further on the Defence Force for further support. on the Defence Force for further support. Ultimately, on the Defence Force for further support. Ultimately, we on the Defence Force for further support. Ultimately, we all on the Defence Force for further support. Ultimately, we all want on the Defence Force for further support. Ultimately, we all want our support. Ultimately, we all want our hospitals support. Ultimately, we all want our hospitals to support. Ultimately, we all want our hospitals to be support. Ultimately, we all want our hospitals to be sustainable, support. Ultimately, we all want our hospitals to be sustainable, safe hospitals to be sustainable, safe working hospitals to be sustainable, safe working environments. hospitals to be sustainable, safe working environments. That hospitals to be sustainable, safe working environments. That is working environments. That is certainly working environments. That is certainly what working environments. That is certainly what this working environments. That is certainly what this government working environments. That is certainly what this government is certainly what this government is committed certainly what this government is committed to certainly what this government is committed to and certainly what this government is committed to and is certainly what this government is committed to and is nothing certainly what this government is committed to and is nothing less committed to and is nothing less than committed to and is nothing less than our committed to and is nothing less than our nurses committed to and is nothing less than our nurses and committed to and is nothing less than our nurses and the committed to and is nothing less than our nurses and the patients than our nurses and the patients they than our nurses and the patients they care than our nurses and the patients they care for than our nurses and the patients they care for deserve. they care for deserve. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> The <INTERRUPTION> The question <INTERRUPTION> The question is <INTERRUPTION> The question is - <INTERRUPTION> The question is - no. <INTERRUPTION> The question is - no. There <INTERRUPTION> The question is - no. There isn't <INTERRUPTION> The question is - no. There isn't a The question is - no. There isn't a motion The question is - no. There isn't a motion before The question is - no. There isn't a motion before the The question is - no. There isn't a motion before the House. The question is - no. There isn't a motion before the House. We The question is - no. There isn't a motion before the House. We will The question is - no. There isn't a motion before the House. We will now motion before the House. We will now move motion before the House. We will now move to motion before the House. We will now move to Oral motion before the House. We will now move to Oral Questions. motion before the House. We will now move to Oral Questions. The motion before the House. We will now move to Oral Questions. The first move to Oral Questions. The first question... move to Oral Questions. The first question... Sorry. move to Oral Questions. The first question... Sorry. I move to Oral Questions. The first question... Sorry. I will move to Oral Questions. The first question... Sorry. I will do move to Oral Questions. The first question... Sorry. I will do the question... Sorry. I will do the petitions. question... Sorry. I will do the petitions. Are question... Sorry. I will do the petitions. Are there question... Sorry. I will do the petitions. Are there any question... Sorry. I will do the petitions. Are there any petitions? Petition Petition of Petition of Barbara Petition of Barbara Kuriger Petition of Barbara Kuriger requesting Petition of Barbara Kuriger requesting the Petition of Barbara Kuriger requesting the House Petition of Barbara Kuriger requesting the House ask requesting the House ask the requesting the House ask the Minister requesting the House ask the Minister for requesting the House ask the Minister for Rural requesting the House ask the Minister for Rural Communities the Minister for Rural Communities to the Minister for Rural Communities to reverse the Minister for Rural Communities to reverse his the Minister for Rural Communities to reverse his decision the Minister for Rural Communities to reverse his decision not to reverse his decision not to to reverse his decision not to provide to reverse his decision not to provide funding to reverse his decision not to provide funding to to provide funding to the to provide funding to the Rural to provide funding to the Rural Health to provide funding to the Rural Health Alliance to provide funding to the Rural Health Alliance to to provide funding to the Rural Health Alliance to enable the Rural Health Alliance to enable it the Rural Health Alliance to enable it to the Rural Health Alliance to enable it to continue the Rural Health Alliance to enable it to continue to the Rural Health Alliance to enable it to continue to deliver the Rural Health Alliance to enable it to continue to deliver essential it to continue to deliver essential services it to continue to deliver essential services to it to continue to deliver essential services to rural it to continue to deliver essential services to rural areas. services to rural areas. Petitions services to rural areas. Petitions of services to rural areas. Petitions of Craig services to rural areas. Petitions of Craig Waterhouse services to rural areas. 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The main risk is that we will continue to see is that we will continue to see residential is that we will continue to see residential developments is that we will continue to see residential developments across is that we will continue to see residential developments across New residential developments across New Zealand residential developments across New Zealand stall residential developments across New Zealand stall because residential developments across New Zealand stall because developers Zealand stall because developers struggle Zealand stall because developers struggle to Zealand stall because developers struggle to find Zealand stall because developers struggle to find finance Zealand stall because developers struggle to find finance on struggle to find finance on acceptable struggle to find finance on acceptable terms. struggle to find finance on acceptable terms. These struggle to find finance on acceptable terms. These developments acceptable terms. These developments will acceptable terms. These developments will not acceptable terms. These developments will not be acceptable terms. These developments will not be built, acceptable terms. These developments will not be built, will acceptable terms. These developments will not be built, will be acceptable terms. These developments will not be built, will be completed will not be built, will be completed more will not be built, will be completed more slowly will not be built, will be completed more slowly and will not be built, will be completed more slowly and will will not be built, will be completed more slowly and will contain will not be built, will be completed more slowly and will contain bigger, more slowly and will contain bigger, more more slowly and will contain bigger, more expensive, more slowly and will contain bigger, more expensive, homes more slowly and will contain bigger, more expensive, homes because more slowly and will contain bigger, more expensive, homes because that more expensive, homes because that is more expensive, homes because that is where more expensive, homes because that is where the more expensive, homes because that is where the biggest more expensive, homes because that is where the biggest profit more expensive, homes because that is where the biggest profit margin is where the biggest profit margin lies. is where the biggest profit margin lies. This is where the biggest profit margin lies. This would is where the biggest profit margin lies. This would mean is where the biggest profit margin lies. This would mean that is where the biggest profit margin lies. This would mean that we is where the biggest profit margin lies. This would mean that we would lies. This would mean that we would not lies. This would mean that we would not increase lies. This would mean that we would not increase the lies. This would mean that we would not increase the supply lies. This would mean that we would not increase the supply of lies. This would mean that we would not increase the supply of modern not increase the supply of modern starter not increase the supply of modern starter homes not increase the supply of modern starter homes for not increase the supply of modern starter homes for young not increase the supply of modern starter homes for young families. starter homes for young families. This starter homes for young families. 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This Government is committed to This Government is committed to building This Government is committed to building affordable This Government is committed to building affordable homes This Government is committed to building affordable homes so This Government is committed to building affordable homes so we This Government is committed to building affordable homes so we can building affordable homes so we can restore building affordable homes so we can restore the building affordable homes so we can restore the Kiwi building affordable homes so we can restore the Kiwi dream building affordable homes so we can restore the Kiwi dream of building affordable homes so we can restore the Kiwi dream of affordable restore the Kiwi dream of affordable home restore the Kiwi dream of affordable home ownership. restore the Kiwi dream of affordable home ownership. Question restore the Kiwi dream of affordable home ownership. Question No.5. home home ownership. home ownership. 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Did he take into account before he announced the $1 billion before he announced the $1 billion in before he announced the $1 billion in new before he announced the $1 billion in new fuel before he announced the $1 billion in new fuel taxes before he announced the $1 billion in new fuel taxes that before he announced the $1 billion in new fuel taxes that fuel before he announced the $1 billion in new fuel taxes that fuel prices in new fuel taxes that fuel prices had in new fuel taxes that fuel prices had already in new fuel taxes that fuel prices had already increased, in new fuel taxes that fuel prices had already increased, on in new fuel taxes that fuel prices had already increased, on average, had already increased, on average, by had already increased, on average, by 20 had already increased, on average, by 20 cents had already increased, on average, by 20 cents a had already increased, on average, by 20 cents a litre had already increased, on average, by 20 cents a litre since had already increased, on average, by 20 cents a litre since he had already increased, on average, by 20 cents a litre since he took by 20 cents a litre since he took office? by 20 cents a litre since he took office? Well, by 20 cents a litre since he took office? Well, Mr by 20 cents a litre since he took office? Well, Mr Speaker, by 20 cents a litre since he took office? Well, Mr Speaker, I by 20 cents a litre since he took office? Well, Mr Speaker, I take by 20 cents a litre since he took office? Well, Mr Speaker, I take my office? Well, Mr Speaker, I take my cue office? Well, Mr Speaker, I take my cue on office? Well, Mr Speaker, I take my cue on this office? Well, Mr Speaker, I take my cue on this from office? Well, Mr Speaker, I take my cue on this from an office? Well, Mr Speaker, I take my cue on this from an earlier cue on this from an earlier Government cue on this from an earlier Government that cue on this from an earlier Government that increased cue on this from an earlier Government that increased fuel cue on this from an earlier Government that increased fuel taxes Government that increased fuel taxes in Government that increased fuel taxes in 2015 Government that increased fuel taxes in 2015 after Government that increased fuel taxes in 2015 after petrol Government that increased fuel taxes in 2015 after petrol prices Government that increased fuel taxes in 2015 after petrol prices had Government that increased fuel taxes in 2015 after petrol prices had gone in 2015 after petrol prices had gone up in 2015 after petrol prices had gone up by in 2015 after petrol prices had gone up by 40 in 2015 after petrol prices had gone up by 40 cents in 2015 after petrol prices had gone up by 40 cents a in 2015 after petrol prices had gone up by 40 cents a litre in 2015 after petrol prices had gone up by 40 cents a litre between up by 40 cents a litre between January up by 40 cents a litre between January and up by 40 cents a litre between January and June up by 40 cents a litre between January and June 2015. up by 40 cents a litre between January and June 2015. The January and June 2015. The Government January and June 2015. The Government then January and June 2015. The Government then increased January and June 2015. The Government then increased excise January and June 2015. The Government then increased excise tax Government then increased excise tax in Government then increased excise tax in July Government then increased excise tax in July as Government then increased excise tax in July as that Government then increased excise tax in July as that decision Government then increased excise tax in July as that decision had Government then increased excise tax in July as that decision had no in July as that decision had no impact in July as that decision had no impact on in July as that decision had no impact on the in July as that decision had no impact on the economy in July as that decision had no impact on the economy and in July as that decision had no impact on the economy and petrol impact on the economy and petrol prices impact on the economy and petrol prices later impact on the economy and petrol prices later fell impact on the economy and petrol prices later fell as impact on the economy and petrol prices later fell as international prices later fell as international fuel prices later fell as international fuel prices prices later fell as international fuel prices moderated, prices later fell as international fuel prices moderated, I prices later fell as international fuel prices moderated, I think prices later fell as international fuel prices moderated, I think Simon fuel prices moderated, I think Simon Bridges fuel prices moderated, I think Simon Bridges is fuel prices moderated, I think Simon Bridges is a fuel prices moderated, I think Simon Bridges is a very fuel prices moderated, I think Simon Bridges is a very good fuel prices moderated, I think Simon Bridges is a very good role fuel prices moderated, I think Simon Bridges is a very good role model Bridges is a very good role model here! 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No, cents a litre more in petrol than what they were a year ago? No, I what they were a year ago? No, I don't what they were a year ago? No, I don't believe what they were a year ago? No, I don't believe that what they were a year ago? No, I don't believe that this what they were a year ago? No, I don't believe that this Government, don't believe that this Government, nor don't believe that this Government, nor any don't believe that this Government, nor any previous don't believe that this Government, nor any previous Government, don't believe that this Government, nor any previous Government, is nor any previous Government, is responsible nor any previous Government, is responsible for nor any previous Government, is responsible for international responsible for international commodity responsible for international commodity prices responsible for international commodity prices and responsible for international commodity prices and their responsible for international commodity prices and their volatile commodity prices and their volatile fluctuations. commodity prices and their volatile fluctuations. Question commodity prices and their volatile fluctuations. Question No.6. commodity commodity prices commodity prices and commodity prices and their commodity prices and their volatile commodity prices and their volatile fluctuations. commodity prices and their volatile fluctuations. Question commodity prices and their volatile fluctuations. Question No.6. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Housing My question is to the Minister of Housing and My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: What Housing and Urban Development: What progress, Housing and Urban Development: What progress, if Housing and Urban Development: What progress, if any, Housing and Urban Development: What progress, if any, has Housing and Urban Development: What progress, if any, has he Housing and Urban Development: What progress, if any, has he made progress, if any, has he made towards progress, if any, has he made towards the progress, if any, has he made towards the Government's progress, if any, has he made towards the Government's target progress, if any, has he made towards the Government's target of towards the Government's target of building towards the Government's target of building 1,000 towards the Government's target of building 1,000 affordable towards the Government's target of building 1,000 affordable KiwiBuild building 1,000 affordable KiwiBuild homes building 1,000 affordable KiwiBuild homes in building 1,000 affordable KiwiBuild homes in 2018/19, building 1,000 affordable KiwiBuild homes in 2018/19, 5,000 building 1,000 affordable KiwiBuild homes in 2018/19, 5,000 in building 1,000 affordable KiwiBuild homes in 2018/19, 5,000 in 2019/20, homes in 2018/19, 5,000 in 2019/20, and homes in 2018/19, 5,000 in 2019/20, and 10,000 homes in 2018/19, 5,000 in 2019/20, and 10,000 in homes in 2018/19, 5,000 in 2019/20, and 10,000 in 2020/21? The The Government The Government has The Government has announced The Government has announced that The Government has announced that it The Government has announced that it will The Government has announced that it will trance The Government has announced that it will trance foreign The Government has announced that it will trance foreign Mangere The Government has announced that it will trance foreign Mangere with The Government has announced that it will trance foreign Mangere with an will trance foreign Mangere with an ambitious will trance foreign Mangere with an ambitious programme will trance foreign Mangere with an ambitious programme to will trance foreign Mangere with an ambitious programme to build will trance foreign Mangere with an ambitious programme to build 10,000 ambitious programme to build 10,000 new ambitious programme to build 10,000 new homes ambitious programme to build 10,000 new homes for ambitious programme to build 10,000 new homes for Kiwi ambitious programme to build 10,000 new homes for Kiwi families. ambitious programme to build 10,000 new homes for Kiwi families. Under new homes for Kiwi families. Under our new homes for Kiwi families. Under our plan new homes for Kiwi families. Under our plan 2,700 new homes for Kiwi families. Under our plan 2,700 worn new homes for Kiwi families. Under our plan 2,700 worn out new homes for Kiwi families. Under our plan 2,700 worn out state new homes for Kiwi families. Under our plan 2,700 worn out state houses our plan 2,700 worn out state houses will our plan 2,700 worn out state houses will be our plan 2,700 worn out state houses will be replaced our plan 2,700 worn out state houses will be replaced by our plan 2,700 worn out state houses will be replaced by 10,000 our plan 2,700 worn out state houses will be replaced by 10,000 new our plan 2,700 worn out state houses will be replaced by 10,000 new homes will be replaced by 10,000 new homes made will be replaced by 10,000 new homes made up will be replaced by 10,000 new homes made up of will be replaced by 10,000 new homes made up of 3,000 will be replaced by 10,000 new homes made up of 3,000 new will be replaced by 10,000 new homes made up of 3,000 new state will be replaced by 10,000 new homes made up of 3,000 new state houses, made up of 3,000 new state houses, up made up of 3,000 new state houses, up to made up of 3,000 new state houses, up to 3,500 made up of 3,000 new state houses, up to 3,500 new made up of 3,000 new state houses, up to 3,500 new KiwiBuild made up of 3,000 new state houses, up to 3,500 new KiwiBuild affordable up to 3,500 new KiwiBuild affordable homes up to 3,500 new KiwiBuild affordable homes and up to 3,500 new KiwiBuild affordable homes and 3,500 up to 3,500 new KiwiBuild affordable homes and 3,500 homes up to 3,500 new KiwiBuild affordable homes and 3,500 homes sold up to 3,500 new KiwiBuild affordable homes and 3,500 homes sold on up to 3,500 new KiwiBuild affordable homes and 3,500 homes sold on the homes and 3,500 homes sold on the open homes and 3,500 homes sold on the open market. homes and 3,500 homes sold on the open market. The homes and 3,500 homes sold on the open market. The first homes and 3,500 homes sold on the open market. The first stage homes and 3,500 homes sold on the open market. The first stage of homes and 3,500 homes sold on the open market. The first stage of the open market. The first stage of the development open market. The first stage of the development is open market. The first stage of the development is under open market. The first stage of the development is under way. open market. The first stage of the development is under way. 35 open market. The first stage of the development is under way. 35 state development is under way. 35 state houses development is under way. 35 state houses are development is under way. 35 state houses are being development is under way. 35 state houses are being demolished development is under way. 35 state houses are being demolished to development is under way. 35 state houses are being demolished to be houses are being demolished to be replaced houses are being demolished to be replaced by houses are being demolished to be replaced by 66 houses are being demolished to be replaced by 66 more houses are being demolished to be replaced by 66 more state houses are being demolished to be replaced by 66 more state houses houses are being demolished to be replaced by 66 more state houses and replaced by 66 more state houses and 100 replaced by 66 more state houses and replaced replaced by 66 more state houses and 100 other homes, replaced by 66 more state houses and 100 other homes, at replaced by 66 more state houses and 100 other homes, at least replaced by 66 more state houses and 100 other homes, at least half replaced by 66 more state houses and 100 other homes, at least half of 100 other homes, at least half of which 100 other homes, at least half of which will 100 other homes, at least half of which will be 100 other homes, at least half of which will be KiwiBuild. 100 other homes, at least half of which will be KiwiBuild. The 100 other homes, at least half of which will be KiwiBuild. The first which will be KiwiBuild. The first KiwiBuild which will be KiwiBuild. The first KiwiBuild affordable which will be KiwiBuild. The first KiwiBuild affordable homes which will be KiwiBuild. The first KiwiBuild affordable homes in which will be KiwiBuild. The first KiwiBuild affordable homes in this KiwiBuild affordable homes in this development KiwiBuild affordable homes in this development will KiwiBuild affordable homes in this development will be KiwiBuild affordable homes in this development will be completed development will be completed towards development will be completed towards the development will be completed towards the end development will be completed towards the end of development will be completed towards the end of 2019 development will be completed towards the end of 2019 and development will be completed towards the end of 2019 and early towards the end of 2019 and early 2020. towards the end of 2019 and early 2020. Supplementary. towards the end of 2019 and early 2020. Supplementary. How towards the end of 2019 and early 2020. Supplementary. How will towards the end of 2019 and early 2020. Supplementary. How will the 2020. Supplementary. How will the Government 2020. Supplementary. How will the Government ensure 2020. Supplementary. How will the Government ensure the 2020. Supplementary. How will the Government ensure the local Government ensure the local residents Government ensure the local residents are Government ensure the local residents are able Government ensure the local residents are able to Government ensure the local residents are able to rent Government ensure the local residents are able to rent or Government ensure the local residents are able to rent or buy residents are able to rent or buy homes residents are able to rent or buy homes in residents are able to rent or buy homes in the residents are able to rent or buy homes in the completed residents are able to rent or buy homes in the completed Maungarei homes in the completed Maungarei development. homes in the completed Maungarei development. I homes in the completed Maungarei development. I am homes in the completed Maungarei development. I am determined homes in the completed Maungarei development. I am determined that development. I am determined that the development. I am determined that the local development. I am determined that the local community development. I am determined that the local community whether development. I am determined that the local community whether men development. I am determined that the local community whether men bit the local community whether men bit from the local community whether men bit from this the local community whether men bit from this redevelopment the local community whether men bit from this redevelopment and the local community whether men bit from this redevelopment and not the local community whether men bit from this redevelopment and not be from this redevelopment and not be priced from this redevelopment and not be priced out from this redevelopment and not be priced out of from this redevelopment and not be priced out of the from this redevelopment and not be priced out of the new from this redevelopment and not be priced out of the new homes. from this redevelopment and not be priced out of the new homes. HLC from this redevelopment and not be priced out of the new homes. HLC are priced out of the new homes. HLC are working priced out of the new homes. HLC are working hard priced out of the new homes. HLC are working hard to priced out of the new homes. HLC are working hard to keep priced out of the new homes. HLC are working hard to keep the priced out of the new homes. HLC are working hard to keep the prices priced out of the new homes. HLC are working hard to keep the prices of working hard to keep the prices of KiwiBuild working hard to keep the prices of KiwiBuild homes working hard to keep the prices of KiwiBuild homes as working hard to keep the prices of KiwiBuild homes as low working hard to keep the prices of KiwiBuild homes as low and working hard to keep the prices of KiwiBuild homes as low and We working hard to keep the prices of KiwiBuild homes as low and We are KiwiBuild homes as low and We are working KiwiBuild homes as low and We are working on KiwiBuild homes as low and We are working on long-term KiwiBuild homes as low and We are working on long-term rent KiwiBuild homes as low and We are working on long-term rent area working on long-term rent area shared working on long-term rent area shared equity working on long-term rent area shared equity options. working on long-term rent area shared equity options. For working on long-term rent area shared equity options. For KiwiBuild shared equity options. For KiwiBuild we shared equity options. For KiwiBuild we will shared equity options. For KiwiBuild we will use shared equity options. For KiwiBuild we will use priority shared equity options. For KiwiBuild we will use priority balance shared equity options. For KiwiBuild we will use priority balance to we will use priority balance to ensure we will use priority balance to ensure local we will use priority balance to ensure local residents we will use priority balance to ensure local residents get we will use priority balance to ensure local residents get the we will use priority balance to ensure local residents get the first ensure local residents get the first shot ensure local residents get the first shot at ensure local residents get the first shot at owning ensure local residents get the first shot at owning their ensure local residents get the first shot at owning their own ensure local residents get the first shot at owning their own home ensure local residents get the first shot at owning their own home in shot at owning their own home in their shot at owning their own home in their own shot at owning their own home in their own community. shot at owning their own home in their own community. Supplementary. their own community. Supplementary. How their own community. Supplementary. How does their own community. Supplementary. How does the their own community. Supplementary. How does the Maungarei their own community. Supplementary. How does the Maungarei development How does the Maungarei development fit How does the Maungarei development fit within How does the Maungarei development fit within the How does the Maungarei development fit within the Government's How does the Maungarei development fit within the Government's plans fit within the Government's plans for fit within the Government's plans for large fit within the Government's plans for large scale fit within the Government's plans for large scale urban fit within the Government's plans for large scale urban development? for large scale urban development? The for large scale urban development? The Maungarei for large scale urban development? The Maungarei development for large scale urban development? The Maungarei development is for large scale urban development? The Maungarei development is the The Maungarei development is the first The Maungarei development is the first fully The Maungarei development is the first fully integrated The Maungarei development is the first fully integrated transport The Maungarei development is the first fully integrated transport and first fully integrated transport and housing first fully integrated transport and housing development. first fully integrated transport and housing development. HLC first fully integrated transport and housing development. HLC and first fully integrated transport and housing development. HLC and the housing development. HLC and the KiwiBuild housing development. HLC and the KiwiBuild unit housing development. HLC and the KiwiBuild unit are housing development. HLC and the KiwiBuild unit are working housing development. HLC and the KiwiBuild unit are working closely KiwiBuild unit are working closely with KiwiBuild unit are working closely with the KiwiBuild unit are working closely with the NZTA-led KiwiBuild unit are working closely with the NZTA-led light KiwiBuild unit are working closely with the NZTA-led light rail KiwiBuild unit are working closely with the NZTA-led light rail project with the NZTA-led light rail project to with the NZTA-led light rail project to ensure with the NZTA-led light rail project to ensure that with the NZTA-led light rail project to ensure that these with the NZTA-led light rail project to ensure that these two with the NZTA-led light rail project to ensure that these two projects to ensure that these two projects make to ensure that these two projects make Maungarei to ensure that these two projects make Maungarei an to ensure that these two projects make Maungarei an even to ensure that these two projects make Maungarei an even better to ensure that these two projects make Maungarei an even better place make Maungarei an even better place to make Maungarei an even better place to live. make Maungarei an even better place to live. Integrating make Maungarei an even better place to live. Integrating transport make Maungarei an even better place to live. Integrating transport and to live. Integrating transport and housing to live. Integrating transport and housing is to live. Integrating transport and housing is how to live. Integrating transport and housing is how we to live. Integrating transport and housing is how we invest to live. Integrating transport and housing is how we invest in to live. Integrating transport and housing is how we invest in the housing is how we invest in the infrastructure housing is how we invest in the infrastructure to housing is how we invest in the infrastructure to get housing is how we invest in the infrastructure to get ahead housing is how we invest in the infrastructure to get ahead of infrastructure to get ahead of growth. infrastructure to get ahead of growth. Maungarei infrastructure to get ahead of growth. Maungarei Junes infrastructure to get ahead of growth. Maungarei Junes Unitec, growth. Maungarei Junes Unitec, Northcote growth. Maungarei Junes Unitec, Northcote and growth. Maungarei Junes Unitec, Northcote and Tam growth. Maungarei Junes Unitec, Northcote and Tam can growth. Maungarei Junes Unitec, Northcote and Tam can I growth. Maungarei Junes Unitec, Northcote and Tam can I as growth. Maungarei Junes Unitec, Northcote and Tam can I as the Northcote and Tam can I as the initial Northcote and Tam can I as the initial large-scale Northcote and Tam can I as the initial large-scale developments initial large-scale developments where initial large-scale developments where this initial large-scale developments where this Government initial large-scale developments where this Government is initial large-scale developments where this Government is building where this Government is building modern where this Government is building modern starter where this Government is building modern starter homes where this Government is building modern starter homes for where this Government is building modern starter homes for young where this Government is building modern starter homes for young Kiwi modern starter homes for young Kiwi families modern starter homes for young Kiwi families - modern starter homes for young Kiwi families - Tamaki. modern starter homes for young Kiwi families - Tamaki. What modern starter homes for young Kiwi families - Tamaki. What interest modern starter homes for young Kiwi families - Tamaki. What interest has families - Tamaki. What interest has there families - Tamaki. What interest has there been families - Tamaki. What interest has there been in families - Tamaki. What interest has there been in 2 families - Tamaki. What interest has there been in 2 KiwiBuild families - Tamaki. What interest has there been in 2 KiwiBuild scheme families - Tamaki. What interest has there been in 2 KiwiBuild scheme and there been in 2 KiwiBuild scheme and these there been in 2 KiwiBuild scheme and these large-scale there been in 2 KiwiBuild scheme and these large-scale developments? there been in 2 KiwiBuild scheme and these large-scale developments? Over these large-scale developments? Over 35,000 these large-scale developments? Over 35,000 Kiwis these large-scale developments? Over 35,000 Kiwis have these large-scale developments? Over 35,000 Kiwis have registered these large-scale developments? Over 35,000 Kiwis have registered their 35,000 Kiwis have registered their interest 35,000 Kiwis have registered their interest in 35,000 Kiwis have registered their interest in KiwiBuild. 35,000 Kiwis have registered their interest in KiwiBuild. For 35,000 Kiwis have registered their interest in KiwiBuild. For aspiring interest in KiwiBuild. For aspiring home interest in KiwiBuild. For aspiring home owners, interest in KiwiBuild. For aspiring home owners, the interest in KiwiBuild. For aspiring home owners, the next interest in KiwiBuild. For aspiring home owners, the next step interest in KiwiBuild. For aspiring home owners, the next step is interest in KiwiBuild. For aspiring home owners, the next step is to home owners, the next step is to start home owners, the next step is to start the home owners, the next step is to start the qualification home owners, the next step is to start the qualification process home owners, the next step is to start the qualification process in start the qualification process in order start the qualification process in order to start the qualification process in order to be start the qualification process in order to be ready start the qualification process in order to be ready to start the qualification process in order to be ready to enter start the qualification process in order to be ready to enter the order to be ready to enter the ballot order to be ready to enter the ballot on order to be ready to enter the ballot on their order to be ready to enter the ballot on their chosen order to be ready to enter the ballot on their chosen KiwiBuild ballot on their chosen KiwiBuild prompts ballot on their chosen KiwiBuild prompts as ballot on their chosen KiwiBuild prompts as they ballot on their chosen KiwiBuild prompts as they go ballot on their chosen KiwiBuild prompts as they go on ballot on their chosen KiwiBuild prompts as they go on sale ballot on their chosen KiwiBuild prompts as they go on sale in ballot on their chosen KiwiBuild prompts as they go on sale in the prompts as they go on sale in the coming prompts as they go on sale in the coming months prompts as they go on sale in the coming months and prompts as they go on sale in the coming months and years. prompts as they go on sale in the coming months and years. Question coming months and years. Question No.7. coming coming months coming months and coming months and years. coming months and years. Question coming months and years. Question No.7. 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Did he agree with the Leader of the Opposition when he Leader of the Opposition when he admitted Leader of the Opposition when he admitted in Leader of the Opposition when he admitted in that Leader of the Opposition when he admitted in that interview Leader of the Opposition when he admitted in that interview that Leader of the Opposition when he admitted in that interview that the admitted in that interview that the regional admitted in that interview that the regional development admitted in that interview that the regional development would admitted in that interview that the regional development would not admitted in that interview that the regional development would not be admitted in that interview that the regional development would not be a regional development would not be a spending regional development would not be a spending priority regional development would not be a spending priority for regional development would not be a spending priority for a regional development would not be a spending priority for a Government spending priority for a Government he spending priority for a Government he led? spending priority for a Government he led? 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