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Parliament TV provides live broadcasts from the House of Representatives. Coverage: Questions for Oral Answer.

Primary Title
  • Parliament TV: Questions for Oral Answer
Date Broadcast
  • Wednesday 1 August 2018
Start Time
  • 14 : 00
Finish Time
  • 15 : 30
Duration
  • 90:00
Channel
  • Parliament TV
Broadcaster
  • Kordia
Programme Description
  • Parliament TV provides live broadcasts from the House of Representatives. Coverage: Questions for Oral Answer.
Classification
  • Not Classified
Owning Collection
  • Chapman Archive
Broadcast Platform
  • Television
Languages
  • English
Captions
Live Broadcast
  • Yes
Rights Statement
  • Made for the University of Auckland's educational use as permitted by the Screenrights Licensing Agreement.
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INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: Almighty INTERPRETER: Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. No No papers No papers or No papers or select No papers or select committee No papers or select committee reports No papers or select committee reports have No papers or select committee reports have been No papers or select committee reports have been presented. No papers or select committee reports have been presented. A reports have been presented. A petition reports have been presented. A petition has reports have been presented. A petition has been reports have been presented. A petition has been delivered reports have been presented. A petition has been delivered to reports have been presented. A petition has been delivered to the petition has been delivered to the Clerk petition has been delivered to the Clerk for petition has been delivered to the Clerk for presentation. Petition Petition of Petition of Luke Petition of Luke Chandler Petition of Luke Chandler requesting Petition of Luke Chandler requesting that Petition of Luke Chandler requesting that the Petition of Luke Chandler requesting that the House Petition of Luke Chandler requesting that the House pass Petition of Luke Chandler requesting that the House pass legislation that the House pass legislation requiring that the House pass legislation requiring Property that the House pass legislation requiring Property Managers that the House pass legislation requiring Property Managers to that the House pass legislation requiring Property Managers to be requiring Property Managers to be licensed, requiring Property Managers to be licensed, and requiring Property Managers to be licensed, and set requiring Property Managers to be licensed, and set up requiring Property Managers to be licensed, and set up a requiring Property Managers to be licensed, and set up a professional licensed, and set up a professional body licensed, and set up a professional body to licensed, and set up a professional body to oversee licensed, and set up a professional body to oversee the licensed, and set up a professional body to oversee the property body to oversee the property management body to oversee the property management industry. management industry. That management industry. That petition management industry. That petition stands management industry. That petition stands referred That petition stands referred to That petition stands referred to a That petition stands referred to a select That petition stands referred to a select committee to a select committee allocated to a select committee allocated by to a select committee allocated by the to a select committee allocated by the Clerk. The The Clerk The Clerk has The Clerk has been The Clerk has been informed The Clerk has been informed of The Clerk has been informed of the The Clerk has been informed of the introduction The Clerk has been informed of the introduction of The Clerk has been informed of the introduction of a The Clerk has been informed of the introduction of a bill. Canterbury Canterbury Earthquakes Canterbury Earthquakes Insurance Canterbury Earthquakes Insurance Tribunal Canterbury Earthquakes Insurance Tribunal Bill Canterbury Earthquakes Insurance Tribunal Bill - Canterbury Earthquakes Insurance Tribunal Bill - introduction Tribunal Bill - introduction That Tribunal Bill - introduction That bill Tribunal Bill - introduction That bill is Tribunal Bill - introduction That bill is set Tribunal Bill - introduction That bill is set down Tribunal Bill - introduction That bill is set down for Tribunal Bill - introduction That bill is set down for first That bill is set down for first reading. reading. The reading. The House reading. The House comes reading. The House comes to reading. The House comes to Oral reading. The House comes to Oral Questions. My My Question My Question is My Question is to My Question is to the My Question is to the Prime My Question is to the Prime Minister: My Question is to the Prime Minister: Does My Question is to the Prime Minister: Does he My Question is to the Prime Minister: Does he stand My Question is to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by My Question is to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by all My Question is to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by all his Minister: Does he stand by all his Government's Minister: Does he stand by all his Government's policies Minister: Does he stand by all his Government's policies and Minister: Does he stand by all his Government's policies and actions? The The Acting The Acting PM. The Acting PM. Yes. The Acting PM. Yes. <INTERRUPTION> The Acting PM. Yes. <INTERRUPTION> Is The Acting PM. Yes. <INTERRUPTION> Is he The Acting PM. Yes. <INTERRUPTION> Is he concerned The Acting PM. Yes. <INTERRUPTION> Is he concerned in The Acting PM. Yes. <INTERRUPTION> Is he concerned in his The Acting PM. Yes. <INTERRUPTION> Is he concerned in his last The Acting PM. Yes. <INTERRUPTION> Is he concerned in his last day The Acting PM. Yes. <INTERRUPTION> Is he concerned in his last day as Is he concerned in his last day as PM Is he concerned in his last day as PM that Is he concerned in his last day as PM that unemployment Is he concerned in his last day as PM that unemployment is Is he concerned in his last day as PM that unemployment is rising Is he concerned in his last day as PM that unemployment is rising with PM that unemployment is rising with an PM that unemployment is rising with an extra PM that unemployment is rising with an extra 4,000 PM that unemployment is rising with an extra 4,000 people PM that unemployment is rising with an extra 4,000 people unemployed PM that unemployment is rising with an extra 4,000 people unemployed in an extra 4,000 people unemployed in the an extra 4,000 people unemployed in the latest an extra 4,000 people unemployed in the latest figures? an extra 4,000 people unemployed in the latest figures? <INTERRUPTION> the latest figures? <INTERRUPTION> The the latest figures? <INTERRUPTION> The facts the latest figures? <INTERRUPTION> The facts are the latest figures? <INTERRUPTION> The facts are that the latest figures? <INTERRUPTION> The facts are that this the latest figures? <INTERRUPTION> The facts are that this country the latest figures? <INTERRUPTION> The facts are that this country has The facts are that this country has the The facts are that this country has the third The facts are that this country has the third highest The facts are that this country has the third highest level The facts are that this country has the third highest level of the third highest level of employment the third highest level of employment in the third highest level of employment in the the third highest level of employment in the 35-country the third highest level of employment in the 35-country OECD. employment in the 35-country OECD. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> The <INTERRUPTION> The third <INTERRUPTION> The third highest <INTERRUPTION> The third highest level, <INTERRUPTION> The third highest level, and <INTERRUPTION> The third highest level, and on <INTERRUPTION> The third highest level, and on the The third highest level, and on the examination The third highest level, and on the examination of The third highest level, and on the examination of the The third highest level, and on the examination of the previous examination of the previous Government's examination of the previous Government's record, examination of the previous Government's record, they examination of the previous Government's record, they never examination of the previous Government's record, they never got Government's record, they never got below, Government's record, they never got below, in Government's record, they never got below, in all Government's record, they never got below, in all those Government's record, they never got below, in all those years, Government's record, they never got below, in all those years, 4.8. below, in all those years, 4.8. We're below, in all those years, 4.8. We're at below, in all those years, 4.8. We're at 4.5. below, in all those years, 4.8. We're at 4.5. <INTERRUPTION> We're at 4.5. <INTERRUPTION> Is We're at 4.5. <INTERRUPTION> Is he We're at 4.5. <INTERRUPTION> Is he concerned We're at 4.5. <INTERRUPTION> Is he concerned that We're at 4.5. <INTERRUPTION> Is he concerned that job We're at 4.5. <INTERRUPTION> Is he concerned that job creation Is he concerned that job creation under Is he concerned that job creation under his Is he concerned that job creation under his government Is he concerned that job creation under his government is Is he concerned that job creation under his government is more Is he concerned that job creation under his government is more than under his government is more than halved under his government is more than halved from under his government is more than halved from 10,000 under his government is more than halved from 10,000 new under his government is more than halved from 10,000 new jobs under his government is more than halved from 10,000 new jobs a under his government is more than halved from 10,000 new jobs a month halved from 10,000 new jobs a month to halved from 10,000 new jobs a month to 4,000 halved from 10,000 new jobs a month to 4,000 now? halved from 10,000 new jobs a month to 4,000 now? The halved from 10,000 new jobs a month to 4,000 now? The reality halved from 10,000 new jobs a month to 4,000 now? The reality is halved from 10,000 new jobs a month to 4,000 now? The reality is that halved from 10,000 new jobs a month to 4,000 now? The reality is that we to 4,000 now? The reality is that we have to 4,000 now? The reality is that we have the... to 4,000 now? 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The have on the job markets and job creation? The very have on the job markets and job creation? The very effect have on the job markets and job creation? The very effect it have on the job markets and job creation? The very effect it is creation? The very effect it is having creation? The very effect it is having now creation? The very effect it is having now - creation? The very effect it is having now - none. creation? The very effect it is having now - none. The creation? The very effect it is having now - none. The only creation? The very effect it is having now - none. The only job creation? The very effect it is having now - none. The only job that having now - none. The only job that seems having now - none. The only job that seems to having now - none. The only job that seems to be having now - none. The only job that seems to be at having now - none. The only job that seems to be at risk having now - none. The only job that seems to be at risk in having now - none. The only job that seems to be at risk in this having now - none. The only job that seems to be at risk in this country seems to be at risk in this country is seems to be at risk in this country is over seems to be at risk in this country is over there. is over there. <LAUGHTER> <LAUGHTER> <APPLAUSE> <APPLAUSE> What <APPLAUSE> What effect <APPLAUSE> What effect does <APPLAUSE> What effect does he <APPLAUSE> What effect does he think <APPLAUSE> What effect does he think the What effect does he think the Government's What effect does he think the Government's industrial What effect does he think the Government's industrial law What effect does he think the Government's industrial law changes Government's industrial law changes will Government's industrial law changes will have Government's industrial law changes will have on Government's industrial law changes will have on the Government's industrial law changes will have on the jobs Government's industrial law changes will have on the jobs market Government's industrial law changes will have on the jobs market and will have on the jobs market and unemployment? will have on the jobs market and unemployment? The will have on the jobs market and unemployment? The effect will have on the jobs market and unemployment? The effect of unemployment? The effect of industrial unemployment? The effect of industrial relations unemployment? The effect of industrial relations in unemployment? The effect of industrial relations in this unemployment? The effect of industrial relations in this country industrial relations in this country will industrial relations in this country will be industrial relations in this country will be a industrial relations in this country will be a case industrial relations in this country will be a case where industrial relations in this country will be a case where the industrial relations in this country will be a case where the once industrial relations in this country will be a case where the once knee will be a case where the once knee deflected will be a case where the once knee deflected work will be a case where the once knee deflected work -- will be a case where the once knee deflected work -- neglected will be a case where the once knee deflected work -- neglected working deflected work -- neglected working people deflected work -- neglected working people of deflected work -- neglected working people of this deflected work -- neglected working people of this country deflected work -- neglected working people of this country will deflected work -- neglected working people of this country will get deflected work -- neglected working people of this country will get a people of this country will get a fair people of this country will get a fair go. people of this country will get a fair go. That's people of this country will get a fair go. That's why people of this country will get a fair go. That's why they people of this country will get a fair go. That's why they are people of this country will get a fair go. That's why they are lining fair go. That's why they are lining up fair go. That's why they are lining up there fair go. That's why they are lining up there Nair fair go. That's why they are lining up there Nair hundreds fair go. That's why they are lining up there Nair hundreds and fair go. That's why they are lining up there Nair hundreds and time fair go. That's why they are lining up there Nair hundreds and time -- up there Nair hundreds and time -- their up there Nair hundreds and time -- their hundreds up there Nair hundreds and time -- their hundreds and up there Nair hundreds and time -- their hundreds and thousands up there Nair hundreds and time -- their hundreds and thousands at up there Nair hundreds and time -- their hundreds and thousands at this their hundreds and thousands at this present their hundreds and thousands at this present time. their hundreds and thousands at this present time. They their hundreds and thousands at this present time. They know their hundreds and thousands at this present time. They know we their hundreds and thousands at this present time. They know we strategic present time. They know we strategic leadership present time. They know we strategic leadership in present time. They know we strategic leadership in business present time. They know we strategic leadership in business and present time. They know we strategic leadership in business and unions. leadership in business and unions. But leadership in business and unions. But the leadership in business and unions. But the Government leadership in business and unions. But the Government will leadership in business and unions. But the Government will do leadership in business and unions. But the Government will do its leadership in business and unions. But the Government will do its job But the Government will do its job to But the Government will do its job to bring But the Government will do its job to bring them But the Government will do its job to bring them together. But the Government will do its job to bring them together. Leadership! to bring them together. Leadership! What to bring them together. Leadership! What effect to bring them together. Leadership! What effect does to bring them together. Leadership! What effect does he to bring them together. Leadership! What effect does he think to bring them together. Leadership! What effect does he think that What effect does he think that banning What effect does he think that banning oil What effect does he think that banning oil and What effect does he think that banning oil and gas What effect does he think that banning oil and gas exploration banning oil and gas exploration increases banning oil and gas exploration increases taxes banning oil and gas exploration increases taxes of banning oil and gas exploration increases taxes of 130 banning oil and gas exploration increases taxes of 130 working increases taxes of 130 working groups increases taxes of 130 working groups and increases taxes of 130 working groups and inquiries increases taxes of 130 working groups and inquiries and increases taxes of 130 working groups and inquiries and softening groups and inquiries and softening up groups and inquiries and softening up the groups and inquiries and softening up the obligations groups and inquiries and softening up the obligations on groups and inquiries and softening up the obligations on people groups and inquiries and softening up the obligations on people to groups and inquiries and softening up the obligations on people to work up the obligations on people to work will up the obligations on people to work will have up the obligations on people to work will have on up the obligations on people to work will have on job up the obligations on people to work will have on job creation up the obligations on people to work will have on job creation and will have on job creation and unemployment? will have on job creation and unemployment? That will have on job creation and unemployment? That statement, will have on job creation and unemployment? That statement, to unemployment? That statement, to quote unemployment? That statement, to quote Jeffrey unemployment? That statement, to quote Jeffrey Palmer unemployment? That statement, to quote Jeffrey Palmer is unemployment? That statement, to quote Jeffrey Palmer is false, quote Jeffrey Palmer is false, malicious quote Jeffrey Palmer is false, malicious and quote Jeffrey Palmer is false, malicious and not quote Jeffrey Palmer is false, malicious and not true. quote Jeffrey Palmer is false, malicious and not true. The quote Jeffrey Palmer is false, malicious and not true. The part malicious and not true. The part about malicious and not true. The part about banning malicious and not true. The part about banning oil malicious and not true. The part about banning oil and malicious and not true. The part about banning oil and gas about banning oil and gas exploration. about banning oil and gas exploration. He's about banning oil and gas exploration. He's been about banning oil and gas exploration. He's been told about banning oil and gas exploration. He's been told over about banning oil and gas exploration. He's been told over and exploration. He's been told over and over exploration. He's been told over and over again exploration. He's been told over and over again it's exploration. He's been told over and over again it's not exploration. He's been told over and over again it's not true. exploration. He's been told over and over again it's not true. And exploration. He's been told over and over again it's not true. And being over again it's not true. And being the over again it's not true. And being the number over again it's not true. And being the number 1 over again it's not true. And being the number 1 grumpy over again it's not true. And being the number 1 grumpy in over again it's not true. And being the number 1 grumpy in this over again it's not true. And being the number 1 grumpy in this country the number 1 grumpy in this country won't the number 1 grumpy in this country won't help! the number 1 grumpy in this country won't help! Order. the number 1 grumpy in this country won't help! Order. The the number 1 grumpy in this country won't help! Order. The Acting the number 1 grumpy in this country won't help! Order. The Acting PM the number 1 grumpy in this country won't help! Order. The Acting PM has won't help! Order. The Acting PM has just won't help! Order. The Acting PM has just indicated won't help! Order. The Acting PM has just indicated that won't help! Order. The Acting PM has just indicated that the won't help! Order. The Acting PM has just indicated that the Leader won't help! Order. The Acting PM has just indicated that the Leader of just indicated that the Leader of the just indicated that the Leader of the Opposition just indicated that the Leader of the Opposition has just indicated that the Leader of the Opposition has deliberately the Opposition has deliberately mislead the Opposition has deliberately mislead the the Opposition has deliberately mislead the House. the Opposition has deliberately mislead the House. He the Opposition has deliberately mislead the House. He cannot the Opposition has deliberately mislead the House. He cannot do mislead the House. He cannot do that. mislead the House. He cannot do that. He mislead the House. He cannot do that. He will mislead the House. He cannot do that. He will withdraw mislead the House. He cannot do that. He will withdraw and that. He will withdraw and apologise. that. He will withdraw and apologise. I that. He will withdraw and apologise. I withdraw that. He will withdraw and apologise. I withdraw and that. He will withdraw and apologise. I withdraw and apologise. apologise. I withdraw and apologise. I apologise. I withdraw and apologise. I know apologise. I withdraw and apologise. I know that apologise. I withdraw and apologise. I know that was apologise. I withdraw and apologise. I know that was a apologise. I withdraw and apologise. I know that was a mistake... apologise. I withdraw and apologise. I know that was a mistake... No, I know that was a mistake... No, that's I know that was a mistake... No, that's the I know that was a mistake... No, that's the end I know that was a mistake... No, that's the end of I know that was a mistake... No, that's the end of it, I know that was a mistake... No, that's the end of it, thank I know that was a mistake... No, that's the end of it, thank you. that's the end of it, thank you. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Is <INTERRUPTION> Is he <INTERRUPTION> Is he concerned <INTERRUPTION> Is he concerned that <INTERRUPTION> Is he concerned that wages <INTERRUPTION> Is he concerned that wages aren't Is he concerned that wages aren't keeping Is he concerned that wages aren't keeping up Is he concerned that wages aren't keeping up with Is he concerned that wages aren't keeping up with inflation, Is he concerned that wages aren't keeping up with inflation, even keeping up with inflation, even before keeping up with inflation, even before there keeping up with inflation, even before there is keeping up with inflation, even before there is a keeping up with inflation, even before there is a 25% keeping up with inflation, even before there is a 25% litre keeping up with inflation, even before there is a 25% litre fuel keeping up with inflation, even before there is a 25% litre fuel tax before there is a 25% litre fuel tax increases before there is a 25% litre fuel tax increases that before there is a 25% litre fuel tax increases that have before there is a 25% litre fuel tax increases that have come before there is a 25% litre fuel tax increases that have come into before there is a 25% litre fuel tax increases that have come into force increases that have come into force on increases that have come into force on 1 increases that have come into force on 1 July? increases that have come into force on 1 July? Ha increases that have come into force on 1 July? Ha ha! increases that have come into force on 1 July? Ha ha! Every increases that have come into force on 1 July? Ha ha! Every economist increases that have come into force on 1 July? Ha ha! Every economist - on 1 July? Ha ha! Every economist - every on 1 July? Ha ha! Every economist - every economist, on 1 July? Ha ha! Every economist - every economist, all on 1 July? Ha ha! Every economist - every economist, all the on 1 July? Ha ha! Every economist - every economist, all the way on 1 July? Ha ha! Every economist - every economist, all the way to on 1 July? Ha ha! Every economist - every economist, all the way to the every economist, all the way to the IMF, every economist, all the way to the IMF, has every economist, all the way to the IMF, has pointed every economist, all the way to the IMF, has pointed to every economist, all the way to the IMF, has pointed to the every economist, all the way to the IMF, has pointed to the fact every economist, all the way to the IMF, has pointed to the fact that IMF, has pointed to the fact that wages IMF, has pointed to the fact that wages are IMF, has pointed to the fact that wages are on IMF, has pointed to the fact that wages are on the IMF, has pointed to the fact that wages are on the rise IMF, has pointed to the fact that wages are on the rise in IMF, has pointed to the fact that wages are on the rise in New wages are on the rise in New Zealand. wages are on the rise in New Zealand. But wages are on the rise in New Zealand. But responsibly wages are on the rise in New Zealand. But responsibly so. Zealand. But responsibly so. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Responsibly <INTERRUPTION> Responsibly so! <INTERRUPTION> Responsibly so! We <INTERRUPTION> Responsibly so! We cannot <INTERRUPTION> Responsibly so! We cannot catch <INTERRUPTION> Responsibly so! We cannot catch up Responsibly so! We cannot catch up with Responsibly so! We cannot catch up with the Responsibly so! We cannot catch up with the - Responsibly so! We cannot catch up with the - with Responsibly so! We cannot catch up with the - with our Responsibly so! We cannot catch up with the - with our Australian with the - with our Australian friends, with the - with our Australian friends, which with the - with our Australian friends, which they with the - with our Australian friends, which they have with the - with our Australian friends, which they have left with the - with our Australian friends, which they have left - with the - with our Australian friends, which they have left - in friends, which they have left - in terms friends, which they have left - in terms of friends, which they have left - in terms of average friends, which they have left - in terms of average earns, friends, which they have left - in terms of average earns, down friends, which they have left - in terms of average earns, down $149 friends, which they have left - in terms of average earns, down $149 a terms of average earns, down $149 a week terms of average earns, down $149 a week on terms of average earns, down $149 a week on average. terms of average earns, down $149 a week on average. We terms of average earns, down $149 a week on average. We can't terms of average earns, down $149 a week on average. We can't catch terms of average earns, down $149 a week on average. We can't catch the week on average. We can't catch the Aussies week on average. We can't catch the Aussies up week on average. We can't catch the Aussies up with week on average. We can't catch the Aussies up with the week on average. We can't catch the Aussies up with the pathway week on average. 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The economy is continuing to grow in a sustainable way. grow in a sustainable way. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> So <INTERRUPTION> So when <INTERRUPTION> So when he <INTERRUPTION> So when he said <INTERRUPTION> So when he said in <INTERRUPTION> So when he said in the <INTERRUPTION> So when he said in the House So when he said in the House yesterday So when he said in the House yesterday and So when he said in the House yesterday and today So when he said in the House yesterday and today that So when he said in the House yesterday and today that the yesterday and today that the Government yesterday and today that the Government is yesterday and today that the Government is transitioning yesterday and today that the Government is transitioning the Government is transitioning the economy, Government is transitioning the economy, did Government is transitioning the economy, did he, Government is transitioning the economy, did he, in Government is transitioning the economy, did he, in fact, Government is transitioning the economy, did he, in fact, mean Government is transitioning the economy, did he, in fact, mean that economy, did he, in fact, mean that the economy, did he, in fact, mean that the Government economy, did he, in fact, mean that the Government is economy, did he, in fact, mean that the Government is transitioning economy, did he, in fact, mean that the Government is transitioning us the Government is transitioning us from the Government is transitioning us from a the Government is transitioning us from a high the Government is transitioning us from a high growth the Government is transitioning us from a high growth economy the Government is transitioning us from a high growth economy with from a high growth economy with falling from a high growth economy with falling unemployment from a high growth economy with falling unemployment and from a high growth economy with falling unemployment and wages falling unemployment and wages rising falling unemployment and wages rising at falling unemployment and wages rising at twice falling unemployment and wages rising at twice the falling unemployment and wages rising at twice the rate falling unemployment and wages rising at twice the rate of rising at twice the rate of inflation... rising at twice the rate of inflation... <INTERRUPTION> inflation... <INTERRUPTION> inflation... <INTERRUPTION> ..to, inflation... <INTERRUPTION> ..to, in inflation... <INTERRUPTION> ..to, in fact, inflation... <INTERRUPTION> ..to, in fact, a inflation... <INTERRUPTION> ..to, in fact, a low-growth inflation... <INTERRUPTION> ..to, in fact, a low-growth economy, ..to, in fact, a low-growth economy, with ..to, in fact, a low-growth economy, with more ..to, in fact, a low-growth economy, with more people ..to, in fact, a low-growth economy, with more people on ..to, in fact, a low-growth economy, with more people on the ..to, in fact, a low-growth economy, with more people on the unemployment with more people on the unemployment benefit with more people on the unemployment benefit and with more people on the unemployment benefit and the with more people on the unemployment benefit and the cost with more people on the unemployment benefit and the cost of with more people on the unemployment benefit and the cost of living benefit and the cost of living increasing benefit and the cost of living increasing faster benefit and the cost of living increasing faster than benefit and the cost of living increasing faster than wages? increasing faster than wages? 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Giving a investing a billion dollars a year in our regions. Giving a billion in our regions. Giving a billion dollars in our regions. Giving a billion dollars worth in our regions. Giving a billion dollars worth of in our regions. Giving a billion dollars worth of research in our regions. 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I'm grow long-term sustainable jobs. I'm proud grow long-term sustainable jobs. I'm proud that grow long-term sustainable jobs. I'm proud that this grow long-term sustainable jobs. I'm proud that this Government grow long-term sustainable jobs. I'm proud that this Government is proud that this Government is finally proud that this Government is finally facing proud that this Government is finally facing up proud that this Government is finally facing up to proud that this Government is finally facing up to issues proud that this Government is finally facing up to issues that finally facing up to issues that were finally facing up to issues that were ignored finally facing up to issues that were ignored for finally facing up to issues that were ignored for nine finally facing up to issues that were ignored for nine years. finally facing up to issues that were ignored for nine years. Hear, were ignored for nine years. Hear, hear. were ignored for nine years. Hear, hear. 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Yes, Yes, the Yes, the Acting Yes, the Acting PM Yes, the Acting PM is Yes, the Acting PM is a Yes, the Acting PM is a man Yes, the Acting PM is a man of Yes, the Acting PM is a man of great Yes, the Acting PM is a man of great wisdom Yes, the Acting PM is a man of great wisdom and Yes, the Acting PM is a man of great wisdom and fore Yes, the Acting PM is a man of great wisdom and fore sight, Yes, the Acting PM is a man of great wisdom and fore sight, who Yes, the Acting PM is a man of great wisdom and fore sight, who speaks wisdom and fore sight, who speaks with wisdom and fore sight, who speaks with great wisdom and fore sight, who speaks with great exactitude. wisdom and fore sight, who speaks with great exactitude. To wisdom and fore sight, who speaks with great exactitude. To put wisdom and fore sight, who speaks with great exactitude. To put the with great exactitude. To put the current with great exactitude. To put the current offer with great exactitude. To put the current offer into with great exactitude. To put the current offer into context with great exactitude. To put the current offer into context - with great exactitude. 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Despite under the last Government. Despite current under the last Government. Despite current inflation under the last Government. Despite current inflation being under the last Government. Despite current inflation being lower under the last Government. 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With because of the spike in GST. With regard because of the spike in GST. With regard to because of the spike in GST. With regard to the because of the spike in GST. With regard to the second because of the spike in GST. With regard to the second part because of the spike in GST. With regard to the second part of because of the spike in GST. 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That was one of the drivers by the NZEI about teacher workload. 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And there has been minimal changes in party has been minimal changes in party affiliations has been minimal changes in party affiliations since has been minimal changes in party affiliations since then has been minimal changes in party affiliations since then and affiliations since then and absolutely affiliations since then and absolutely no affiliations since then and absolutely no evidence affiliations since then and absolutely no evidence of affiliations since then and absolutely no evidence of our absolutely no evidence of our democracy absolutely no evidence of our democracy being absolutely no evidence of our democracy being destroyed? 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I go back to the basic principle of the back to the basic principle of the electoral back to the basic principle of the electoral integrity back to the basic principle of the electoral integrity Bill back to the basic principle of the electoral integrity Bill which back to the basic principle of the electoral integrity Bill which is electoral integrity Bill which is that electoral integrity Bill which is that it electoral integrity Bill which is that it is electoral integrity Bill which is that it is the electoral integrity Bill which is that it is the role electoral integrity Bill which is that it is the role of electoral integrity Bill which is that it is the role of the that it is the role of the electorate, that it is the role of the electorate, of that it is the role of the electorate, of voters that it is the role of the electorate, of voters to that it is the role of the electorate, of voters to make that it is the role of the electorate, of voters to make the electorate, of voters to make the decision electorate, of voters to make the decision on electorate, of voters to make the decision on the electorate, of voters to make the decision on the make-up electorate, of voters to make the decision on the make-up of decision on the make-up of parliament, decision on the make-up of parliament, rather decision on the make-up of parliament, rather than decision on the make-up of parliament, rather than individual parliament, rather than individual MPs parliament, rather than individual MPs arrow parliament, rather than individual MPs arrow gaiting parliament, rather than individual MPs arrow gaiting to parliament, rather than individual MPs arrow gaiting to themselves parliament, rather than individual MPs arrow gaiting to themselves the MPs arrow gaiting to themselves the pious MPs arrow gaiting to themselves the pious privilege MPs arrow gaiting to themselves the pious privilege of MPs arrow gaiting to themselves the pious privilege of deciding MPs arrow gaiting to themselves the pious privilege of deciding what pious privilege of deciding what pious privilege of deciding what pious privilege of deciding what party should pious privilege of deciding what party should be pious privilege of deciding what party should be represented pious privilege of deciding what party should be represented by pious privilege of deciding what party should be represented by what party should be represented by what numbers party should be represented by what numbers in party should be represented by what numbers in parliament. Does Does he Does he agree Does he agree that Does he agree that the Does he agree that the democratic Does he agree that the democratic fundamentals Does he agree that the democratic fundamentals of Does he agree that the democratic fundamentals of society Does he agree that the democratic fundamentals of society would Does he agree that the democratic fundamentals of society would be fundamentals of society would be destroyed fundamentals of society would be destroyed if fundamentals of society would be destroyed if MPs fundamentals of society would be destroyed if MPs were fundamentals of society would be destroyed if MPs were allowed fundamentals of society would be destroyed if MPs were allowed to destroyed if MPs were allowed to party-hop destroyed if MPs were allowed to party-hop and destroyed if MPs were allowed to party-hop and if destroyed if MPs were allowed to party-hop and if so, destroyed if MPs were allowed to party-hop and if so, where destroyed if MPs were allowed to party-hop and if so, where is destroyed if MPs were allowed to party-hop and if so, where is the party-hop and if so, where is the evidence party-hop and if so, where is the evidence of party-hop and if so, where is the evidence of democracy party-hop and if so, where is the evidence of democracy being evidence of democracy being destroyed evidence of democracy being destroyed when evidence of democracy being destroyed when Rod evidence of democracy being destroyed when Rod Donald evidence of democracy being destroyed when Rod Donald and destroyed when Rod Donald and destroyed when Rod Donald and destroyed when Rod Donald and Janette Fitzsimons destroyed when Rod Donald and Janette Fitzsimons party-hopped destroyed when Rod Donald and Janette Fitzsimons party-hopped from Janette Fitzsimons party-hopped from the Janette Fitzsimons party-hopped from the Alliance Janette Fitzsimons party-hopped from the Alliance Party Janette Fitzsimons party-hopped from the Alliance Party to Janette Fitzsimons party-hopped from the Alliance Party to the Janette Fitzsimons party-hopped from the Alliance Party to the Green the Alliance Party to the Green Party the Alliance Party to the Green Party in the Alliance Party to the Green Party in 1998? the Alliance Party to the Green Party in 1998? The the Alliance Party to the Green Party in 1998? The basic the Alliance Party to the Green Party in 1998? The basic principle Party in 1998? The basic principle of Party in 1998? The basic principle of MMP Party in 1998? The basic principle of MMP is Party in 1998? The basic principle of MMP is that Party in 1998? The basic principle of MMP is that it Party in 1998? The basic principle of MMP is that it is Party in 1998? The basic principle of MMP is that it is for Party in 1998? The basic principle of MMP is that it is for the of MMP is that it is for the electorate of MMP is that it is for the electorate to of MMP is that it is for the electorate to decide of MMP is that it is for the electorate to decide the of MMP is that it is for the electorate to decide the share of MMP is that it is for the electorate to decide the share of electorate to decide the share of each electorate to decide the share of each party's electorate to decide the share of each party's vote electorate to decide the share of each party's vote in electorate to decide the share of each party's vote in parliament. each party's vote in parliament. That each party's vote in parliament. That is each party's vote in parliament. That is why each party's vote in parliament. That is why it each party's vote in parliament. That is why it is each party's vote in parliament. That is why it is called each party's vote in parliament. That is why it is called mixed That is why it is called mixed member That is why it is called mixed member proportional That is why it is called mixed member proportional representation. member proportional representation. It member proportional representation. It is member proportional representation. It is diametrically member proportional representation. It is diametrically opposed member proportional representation. It is diametrically opposed to member proportional representation. It is diametrically opposed to that It is diametrically opposed to that principle It is diametrically opposed to that principle to It is diametrically opposed to that principle to allow It is diametrically opposed to that principle to allow individual It is diametrically opposed to that principle to allow individual MPs, principle to allow individual MPs, on principle to allow individual MPs, on a principle to allow individual MPs, on a whim, principle to allow individual MPs, on a whim, to principle to allow individual MPs, on a whim, to decide principle to allow individual MPs, on a whim, to decide they principle to allow individual MPs, on a whim, to decide they are principle to allow individual MPs, on a whim, to decide they are no on a whim, to decide they are no longer on a whim, to decide they are no longer part on a whim, to decide they are no longer part of on a whim, to decide they are no longer part of the on a whim, to decide they are no longer part of the party on a whim, to decide they are no longer part of the party that on a whim, to decide they are no longer part of the party that - longer part of the party that - under longer part of the party that - under whose longer part of the party that - under whose party longer part of the party that - under whose party they longer part of the party that - under whose party they entered under whose party they entered parliament, under whose party they entered parliament, therefore under whose party they entered parliament, therefore destroying parliament, therefore destroying proportionality parliament, therefore destroying proportionality of parliament, therefore destroying proportionality of party proportionality of party representation, proportionality of party representation, therefore representation, therefore undermining representation, therefore undermining that representation, therefore undermining that principle representation, therefore undermining that principle of representation, therefore undermining that principle of MMP. undermining that principle of MMP. That undermining that principle of MMP. That is undermining that principle of MMP. That is what undermining that principle of MMP. That is what the undermining that principle of MMP. That is what the Electoral undermining that principle of MMP. That is what the Electoral Integrity That is what the Electoral Integrity Bill That is what the Electoral Integrity Bill seeks That is what the Electoral Integrity Bill seeks to That is what the Electoral Integrity Bill seeks to affirm. That is what the Electoral Integrity Bill seeks to affirm. Supplementary. Bill seeks to affirm. Supplementary. If Bill seeks to affirm. Supplementary. If democratic Bill seeks to affirm. Supplementary. If democratic destruction Bill seeks to affirm. Supplementary. If democratic destruction is Bill seeks to affirm. Supplementary. If democratic destruction is what Bill seeks to affirm. Supplementary. If democratic destruction is what is If democratic destruction is what is at If democratic destruction is what is at issue If democratic destruction is what is at issue here, If democratic destruction is what is at issue here, and If democratic destruction is what is at issue here, and it If democratic destruction is what is at issue here, and it is If democratic destruction is what is at issue here, and it is collected at issue here, and it is collected with at issue here, and it is collected with the at issue here, and it is collected with the formation at issue here, and it is collected with the formation of at issue here, and it is collected with the formation of parties, at issue here, and it is collected with the formation of parties, is at issue here, and it is collected with the formation of parties, is it with the formation of parties, is it not with the formation of parties, is it not a with the formation of parties, is it not a fact with the formation of parties, is it not a fact that with the formation of parties, is it not a fact that neither with the formation of parties, is it not a fact that neither Maori with the formation of parties, is it not a fact that neither Maori Party, not a fact that neither Maori Party, united not a fact that neither Maori Party, united Party, not a fact that neither Maori Party, united Party, United not a fact that neither Maori Party, united Party, United Future not a fact that neither Maori Party, united Party, United Future party united Party, United Future party all united Party, United Future party all went united Party, United Future party all went down united Party, United Future party all went down by united Party, United Future party all went down by their united Party, United Future party all went down by their association all went down by their association with all went down by their association with National? all went down by their association with National? 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Does he agree with today's statement Does he agree with today's statement by Does he agree with today's statement by Dr Does he agree with today's statement by Dr Bryce Does he agree with today's statement by Dr Bryce Edwards Does he agree with today's statement by Dr Bryce Edwards of Does he agree with today's statement by Dr Bryce Edwards of Victoria by Dr Bryce Edwards of Victoria university by Dr Bryce Edwards of Victoria university that by Dr Bryce Edwards of Victoria university that the by Dr Bryce Edwards of Victoria university that the bill by Dr Bryce Edwards of Victoria university that the bill itself by Dr Bryce Edwards of Victoria university that the bill itself is university that the bill itself is bad university that the bill itself is bad enough university that the bill itself is bad enough for university that the bill itself is bad enough for democracy, university that the bill itself is bad enough for democracy, but university that the bill itself is bad enough for democracy, but the bad enough for democracy, but the process bad enough for democracy, but the process surrounding bad enough for democracy, but the process surrounding the bad enough for democracy, but the process surrounding the bill bad enough for democracy, but the process surrounding the bill has process surrounding the bill has also process surrounding the bill has also been process surrounding the bill has also been a process surrounding the bill has also been a blow process surrounding the bill has also been a blow against process surrounding the bill has also been a blow against democracy, also been a blow against democracy, also been a blow against democracy, also been a blow against democracy, especially with also been a blow against democracy, especially with the also been a blow against democracy, especially with the Green also been a blow against democracy, especially with the Green Party especially with the Green Party misleading especially with the Green Party misleading the especially with the Green Party misleading the public especially with the Green Party misleading the public on especially with the Green Party misleading the public on their misleading the public on their crucial misleading the public on their crucial you misleading the public on their crucial you turn misleading the public on their crucial you turn in misleading the public on their crucial you turn in supporting misleading the public on their crucial you turn in supporting the crucial you turn in supporting the legislation? crucial you turn in supporting the legislation? No. crucial you turn in supporting the legislation? No. <INTERRUPTION> legislation? No. <INTERRUPTION> Question legislation? No. <INTERRUPTION> Question No.8. Question Question No.8. 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However, it is with regret that I However, it is with regret that I have However, it is with regret that I have to However, it is with regret that I have to inform However, it is with regret that I have to inform the However, it is with regret that I have to inform the House However, it is with regret that I have to inform the House that However, it is with regret that I have to inform the House that Dr have to inform the House that Dr Pauline have to inform the House that Dr Pauline Kingi have to inform the House that Dr Pauline Kingi advised have to inform the House that Dr Pauline Kingi advised the have to inform the House that Dr Pauline Kingi advised the Government Pauline Kingi advised the Government just Pauline Kingi advised the Government just before Pauline Kingi advised the Government just before I Pauline Kingi advised the Government just before I came Pauline Kingi advised the Government just before I came to Pauline Kingi advised the Government just before I came to the Pauline Kingi advised the Government just before I came to the House Pauline Kingi advised the Government just before I came to the House that just before I came to the House that she just before I came to the House that she is just before I came to the House that she is going just before I came to the House that she is going to just before I came to the House that she is going to stand just before I came to the House that she is going to stand down just before I came to the House that she is going to stand down from just before I came to the House that she is going to stand down from the she is going to stand down from the inquiry she is going to stand down from the inquiry and she is going to stand down from the inquiry and to she is going to stand down from the inquiry and to the she is going to stand down from the inquiry and to the appointment inquiry and to the appointment process inquiry and to the appointment process for inquiry and to the appointment process for a inquiry and to the appointment process for a Deputy inquiry and to the appointment process for a Deputy Commissioner inquiry and to the appointment process for a Deputy Commissioner of process for a Deputy Commissioner of police. process for a Deputy Commissioner of police. Ever process for a Deputy Commissioner of police. Ever since process for a Deputy Commissioner of police. Ever since she process for a Deputy Commissioner of police. Ever since she was process for a Deputy Commissioner of police. Ever since she was appointed police. Ever since she was appointed to police. Ever since she was appointed to the police. Ever since she was appointed to the role, police. Ever since she was appointed to the role, she police. Ever since she was appointed to the role, she has police. Ever since she was appointed to the role, she has been police. Ever since she was appointed to the role, she has been the to the role, she has been the subject to the role, she has been the subject of to the role, she has been the subject of political to the role, she has been the subject of political attack. subject of political attack. Rubbish! subject of political attack. Rubbish! Those subject of political attack. Rubbish! Those have subject of political attack. Rubbish! Those have been subject of political attack. Rubbish! Those have been attacks subject of political attack. Rubbish! Those have been attacks on Rubbish! Those have been attacks on Rubbish! Those have been attacks on Rubbish! Those have been attacks on her integrity... Rubbish! Those have been attacks on her integrity... <INTERRUPTION> her integrity... <INTERRUPTION> attacks her integrity... <INTERRUPTION> attacks on her integrity... <INTERRUPTION> attacks on her her integrity... <INTERRUPTION> attacks on her reputation her integrity... <INTERRUPTION> attacks on her reputation and her integrity... <INTERRUPTION> attacks on her reputation and her attacks on her reputation and her legal attacks on her reputation and her her attacks on her reputation and her legal qualification. She attacks on her reputation and her legal qualification. She has attacks on her reputation and her legal qualification. She has a attacks on her reputation and her legal qualification. She has a 28 legal qualification. She has a 28 legal qualification. She has a 28 legal qualification. She has a 28 year career legal qualification. She has a 28 year career in legal qualification. She has a 28 year career in public legal qualification. She has a 28 year career in public service. legal qualification. She has a 28 year career in public service. She year career in public service. She was year career in public service. She was asked year career in public service. She was asked to year career in public service. She was asked to perform year career in public service. She was asked to perform a year career in public service. She was asked to perform a public year career in public service. 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I I have I have been I have been advised I have been advised by I have been advised by Corrections I have been advised by Corrections that I have been advised by Corrections that Rimutaka I have been advised by Corrections that Rimutaka Prison I have been advised by Corrections that Rimutaka Prison staff I have been advised by Corrections that Rimutaka Prison staff have that Rimutaka Prison staff have moved that Rimutaka Prison staff have moved quickly that Rimutaka Prison staff have moved quickly to that Rimutaka Prison staff have moved quickly to identify that Rimutaka Prison staff have moved quickly to identify prisoners moved quickly to identify prisoners in moved quickly to identify prisoners in the moved quickly to identify prisoners in the online moved quickly to identify prisoners in the online video. moved quickly to identify prisoners in the online video. The moved quickly to identify prisoners in the online video. The site in the online video. 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The site emergency response team undertook a emergency response team undertook a search emergency response team undertook a search operation emergency response team undertook a search operation and emergency response team undertook a search operation and a emergency response team undertook a search operation and a cell emergency response team undertook a search operation and a cell phone search operation and a cell phone was search operation and a cell phone was recovered search operation and a cell phone was recovered quickly search operation and a cell phone was recovered quickly and search operation and a cell phone was recovered quickly and is search operation and a cell phone was recovered quickly and is being was recovered quickly and is being forensically was recovered quickly and is being forensically examined. was recovered quickly and is being forensically examined. I was recovered quickly and is being forensically examined. I expect was recovered quickly and is being forensically examined. I expect that forensically examined. I expect that the forensically examined. I expect that the prisoner's forensically examined. I expect that the prisoner's identified forensically examined. I expect that the prisoner's identified will forensically examined. I expect that the prisoner's identified will be the prisoner's identified will be the prisoner's identified will be the prisoner's identified will be held to the prisoner's identified will be held to account the prisoner's identified will be held to account for the prisoner's identified will be held to account for their the prisoner's identified will be held to account for their behaviour. held to account for their behaviour. I held to account for their behaviour. I also held to account for their behaviour. I also appreciate held to account for their behaviour. I also appreciate images held to account for their behaviour. I also appreciate images of I also appreciate images of prisoners I also appreciate images of prisoners available I also appreciate images of prisoners available online I also appreciate images of prisoners available online will I also appreciate images of prisoners available online will be prisoners available online will be prisoners available online will be prisoners available online will be of particular prisoners available online will be of particular concern prisoners available online will be of particular concern to prisoners available online will be of particular concern to the prisoners available online will be of particular concern to the victims of particular concern to the victims of particular concern to the victims of particular concern to the victims of offending. of particular concern to the victims of offending. Corrections of particular concern to the victims of offending. Corrections are of particular concern to the victims of offending. 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Does he think Corrections officers are smuggling Corrections officers are smuggling in Corrections officers are smuggling in the Corrections officers are smuggling in the equipment Corrections officers are smuggling in the equipment being Corrections officers are smuggling in the equipment being used Corrections officers are smuggling in the equipment being used to in the equipment being used to tattoo in the equipment being used to tattoo prisoners in the equipment being used to tattoo prisoners and in the equipment being used to tattoo prisoners and the in the equipment being used to tattoo prisoners and the phones tattoo prisoners and the phones tattoo prisoners and the phones tattoo prisoners and the phones being used tattoo prisoners and the phones being used to tattoo prisoners and the phones being used to post tattoo prisoners and the phones being used to post their tattoo prisoners and the phones being used to post their tattooing being used to post their tattooing being used to post their tattooing being used to post their tattooing online? 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I have no tolerance expectations of their behaviour. I have no tolerance for expectations of their behaviour. I have no tolerance for Corrections have no tolerance for Corrections have no tolerance for Corrections have no tolerance for Corrections officers who have no tolerance for Corrections officers who are have no tolerance for Corrections officers who are found have no tolerance for Corrections officers who are found to have no tolerance for Corrections officers who are found to be have no tolerance for Corrections officers who are found to be abusing officers who are found to be abusing their officers who are found to be abusing their position officers who are found to be abusing their position in officers who are found to be abusing their position in prisons. officers who are found to be abusing their position in prisons. They their position in prisons. They endanger their position in prisons. They endanger themselves their position in prisons. They endanger themselves and their position in prisons. They endanger themselves and their their position in prisons. They endanger themselves and their peers. endanger themselves and their peers. Is endanger themselves and their peers. Is it endanger themselves and their peers. Is it true endanger themselves and their peers. Is it true that endanger themselves and their peers. Is it true that when endanger themselves and their peers. Is it true that when allegations endanger themselves and their peers. 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They endanger themselves and they endanger their themselves and they endanger their peers themselves and they endanger their peers and themselves and they endanger their peers and I themselves and they endanger their peers and I expect themselves and they endanger their peers and I expect Corrections themselves and they endanger their peers and I expect Corrections to peers and I expect Corrections to deal peers and I expect Corrections to deal with peers and I expect Corrections to deal with any peers and I expect Corrections to deal with any Corrections peers and I expect Corrections to deal with any Corrections officers deal with any Corrections officers that deal with any Corrections officers that are deal with any Corrections officers that are found deal with any Corrections officers that are found to deal with any Corrections officers that are found to be deal with any Corrections officers that are found to be smuggling that are found to be smuggling contraband that are found to be smuggling contraband into that are found to be smuggling contraband into prisons that are found to be smuggling contraband into prisons and that are found to be smuggling contraband into prisons and deal contraband into prisons and deal with contraband into prisons and deal with it contraband into prisons and deal with it swiftly. contraband into prisons and deal with it swiftly. 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What steps has he taken to address the number has he taken to address the number of has he taken to address the number of prisoners has he taken to address the number of prisoners giving has he taken to address the number of prisoners giving or has he taken to address the number of prisoners giving or receiving has he taken to address the number of prisoners giving or receiving a of prisoners giving or receiving a tattoo of prisoners giving or receiving a tattoo in of prisoners giving or receiving a tattoo in prison? of prisoners giving or receiving a tattoo in prison? The of prisoners giving or receiving a tattoo in prison? The Corrections tattoo in prison? The Corrections Amendment tattoo in prison? The Corrections Amendment Bill tattoo in prison? The Corrections Amendment Bill will tattoo in prison? The Corrections Amendment Bill will make tattoo in prison? The Corrections Amendment Bill will make it tattoo in prison? The Corrections Amendment Bill will make it a Amendment Bill will make it a disciplinary Amendment Bill will make it a disciplinary offence Amendment Bill will make it a disciplinary offence for Amendment Bill will make it a disciplinary offence for a Amendment Bill will make it a disciplinary offence for a prisoner disciplinary offence for a prisoner to disciplinary offence for a prisoner to tattoo disciplinary offence for a prisoner to tattoo another disciplinary offence for a prisoner to tattoo another prisoner disciplinary offence for a prisoner to tattoo another prisoner or to tattoo another prisoner or consent to tattoo another prisoner or consent to to tattoo another prisoner or consent to receive to tattoo another prisoner or consent to receive a to tattoo another prisoner or consent to receive a consent to tattoo another prisoner or consent to receive a consent to consent to receive a consent to receive consent to receive a consent to receive a consent to receive a consent to receive a tattoo consent to receive a consent to receive a tattoo from consent to receive a consent to receive a tattoo from another receive a tattoo from another prisoner receive a tattoo from another prisoner or receive a tattoo from another prisoner or to receive a tattoo from another prisoner or to tattoo receive a tattoo from another prisoner or to tattoo themselves. receive a tattoo from another prisoner or to tattoo themselves. I prisoner or to tattoo themselves. I have prisoner or to tattoo themselves. I have also prisoner or to tattoo themselves. I have also asked prisoner or to tattoo themselves. I have also asked Corrections prisoner or to tattoo themselves. I have also asked Corrections to prisoner or to tattoo themselves. I have also asked Corrections to look have also asked Corrections to look into have also asked Corrections to look into a have also asked Corrections to look into a national have also asked Corrections to look into a national tattoo have also asked Corrections to look into a national tattoo removal into a national tattoo removal strategy. into a national tattoo removal strategy. Some into a national tattoo removal strategy. Some satas. into a national tattoo removal strategy. Some satas. Particularly strategy. Some satas. Particularly into strategy. Some satas. Particularly gang patches... Order! strategy. Some satas. Particularly gang patches... Order! Some strategy. Some satas. 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Some tattoos, in particular gang patches, can have in particular gang patches, can have an in particular gang patches, can have an impact in particular gang patches, can have an impact for in particular gang patches, can have an impact for the in particular gang patches, can have an impact for the ability in particular gang patches, can have an impact for the ability of in particular gang patches, can have an impact for the ability of some an impact for the ability of some prisoners an impact for the ability of some prisoners to an impact for the ability of some prisoners to transition an impact for the ability of some prisoners to transition back an impact for the ability of some prisoners to transition back into prisoners to transition back into communities. prisoners to transition back into communities. If prisoners to transition back into communities. If we prisoners to transition back into communities. If we want prisoners to transition back into communities. If we want people prisoners to transition back into communities. If we want people to communities. If we want people to have communities. If we want people to have the communities. If we want people to have the best communities. If we want people to have the best chance communities. If we want people to have the best chance of communities. If we want people to have the best chance of leading communities. If we want people to have the best chance of leading a have the best chance of leading a better have the best chance of leading a better life have the best chance of leading a better life after have the best chance of leading a better life after prison have the best chance of leading a better life after prison then have the best chance of leading a better life after prison then we better life after prison then we need better life after prison then we need to better life after prison then we need to make better life after prison then we need to make steps better life after prison then we need to make steps in better life after prison then we need to make steps in helping better life after prison then we need to make steps in helping them need to make steps in helping them remove need to make steps in helping them remove Dang need to make steps in helping them remove Dang patches need to make steps in helping them remove Dang patches to need to make steps in helping them remove Dang patches to help need to make steps in helping them remove Dang patches to help them remove Dang patches to help them successfully remove Dang patches to help them successfully transition remove Dang patches to help them successfully transition back remove Dang patches to help them successfully transition back into successfully transition back into successfully transition back into successfully transition back into communities. Supplementary successfully transition back into communities. Supplementary question. communities. Supplementary question. Has communities. Supplementary question. Has he communities. Supplementary question. Has he taken communities. Supplementary question. Has he taken any communities. Supplementary question. Has he taken any action communities. Supplementary question. Has he taken any action regarding Has he taken any action regarding prison Has he taken any action regarding prison officers Has he taken any action regarding prison officers who Has he taken any action regarding prison officers who have Has he taken any action regarding prison officers who have allegedly prison officers who have allegedly been prison officers who have allegedly been bringing prison officers who have allegedly been bringing contraband prison officers who have allegedly been bringing contraband into been bringing contraband into prisons, been bringing contraband into prisons, that been bringing contraband into prisons, that he been bringing contraband into prisons, that he said been bringing contraband into prisons, that he said in been bringing contraband into prisons, that he said in the been bringing contraband into prisons, that he said in the past been bringing contraband into prisons, that he said in the past he prisons, that he said in the past he knew prisons, that he said in the past he prison prisons, that he said in the past he knew the names prisons, that he said in the past he knew the names of prisons, that he said in the past he knew the names of and prisons, that he said in the past he knew the names of and that prisons, that he said in the past he knew the names of and that had prisons, that he said in the past he knew the names of and that had been knew the names of and that had been given knew the names of and that had been given to knew the names of and that had been given to him? knew the names of and that had been given to him? I knew the names of and that had been given to him? I have knew the names of and that had been given to him? I have no given to him? I have no responsibility given to him? I have no responsibility for given to him? I have no responsibility for the given to him? I have no responsibility for the actions given to him? I have no responsibility for the actions that responsibility for the actions that occurred responsibility for the actions that occurred under responsibility for the actions that occurred under the responsibility for the actions that occurred under the previous occurred under the previous Government. occurred under the previous Government. Supplementary. occurred under the previous Government. Supplementary. Does occurred under the previous Government. Supplementary. Does he Government. Supplementary. Does he still Government. Supplementary. Does he still believe Government. Supplementary. Does he still believe Corrections Government. Supplementary. Does he still believe Corrections takes Government. Supplementary. Does he still believe Corrections takes a still believe Corrections takes a view still believe Corrections takes a view that still believe Corrections takes a view that protecting still believe Corrections takes a view that protecting its still believe Corrections takes a view that protecting its reputation view that protecting its reputation is view that protecting its reputation is more view that protecting its reputation is more important view that protecting its reputation is more important than view that protecting its reputation is more important than the view that protecting its reputation is more important than the safety is more important than the safety and is more important than the safety and transparency is more important than the safety and transparency of is more important than the safety and transparency of the is more important than the safety and transparency of the prison and transparency of the prison system and transparency of the prison system as and transparency of the prison system as he and transparency of the prison system as he has and transparency of the prison system as he has said and transparency of the prison system as he has said in and transparency of the prison system as he has said in the and transparency of the prison system as he has said in the past? system as he has said in the past? No, system as he has said in the past? No, not system as he has said in the past? No, not under system as he has said in the past? No, not under my system as he has said in the past? No, not under my watch. system as he has said in the past? No, not under my watch. Question No, not under my watch. Question No.11. No.11. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Conservation: My question is to the Minister of Conservation: Is My question is to the Minister of Conservation: Is it My question is to the Minister of Conservation: Is it still My question is to the Minister of Conservation: Is it still Government Conservation: Is it still Government policy Conservation: Is it still Government policy that Conservation: Is it still Government policy that there Conservation: Is it still Government policy that there will Conservation: Is it still Government policy that there will be Conservation: Is it still Government policy that there will be no Conservation: Is it still Government policy that there will be no new policy that there will be no new mining policy that there will be no new mining on policy that there will be no new mining on conservation policy that there will be no new mining on conservation land? 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Minister woods and I are making good process on how to making good process on how to implement making good process on how to implement the making good process on how to implement the Government's making good process on how to implement the Government's policy making good process on how to implement the Government's policy of implement the Government's policy of no implement the Government's policy of no new implement the Government's policy of no new mines implement the Government's policy of no new mines on implement the Government's policy of no new mines on conservation implement the Government's policy of no new mines on conservation land. no new mines on conservation land. Supplementary. no new mines on conservation land. Supplementary. Why, no new mines on conservation land. Supplementary. Why, if no new mines on conservation land. Supplementary. Why, if it no new mines on conservation land. Supplementary. Why, if it is Supplementary. Why, if it is Supplementary. Why, if it is Supplementary. Why, if it is Government policy Supplementary. Why, if it is Government policy that Supplementary. Why, if it is Government policy that no Supplementary. Why, if it is Government policy that no new Supplementary. Why, if it is Government policy that no new mining Government policy that no new mining is Government policy that no new mining is to Government policy that no new mining is to occur Government policy that no new mining is to occur on Government policy that no new mining is to occur on conversation Government policy that no new mining is to occur on conversation land, is to occur on conversation land, has is to occur on conversation land, has she is to occur on conversation land, has she allowed is to occur on conversation land, has she allowed access is to occur on conversation land, has she allowed access for has she allowed access for prospecting has she allowed access for prospecting in has she allowed access for prospecting in Mount has she allowed access for prospecting in Mount Richmond has she allowed access for prospecting in Mount Richmond forest prospecting in Mount Richmond forest prospecting in Mount Richmond forest prospecting in Mount Richmond forest park, the prospecting in Mount Richmond forest park, the Howard prospecting in Mount Richmond forest park, the Howard conservation prospecting in Mount Richmond forest park, the Howard conservation area, park, the Howard conservation area, Victoria park, the Howard conservation area, Victoria forest park, the Howard conservation area, Victoria forest park, park, the Howard conservation area, Victoria forest park, and park, the Howard conservation area, Victoria forest park, and the park, the Howard conservation area, Victoria forest park, and the rock Victoria forest park, and the rock Victoria forest park, and the rock Victoria forest park, and the rock and pillar Victoria forest park, and the rock and pillar conservation Victoria forest park, and the rock and pillar conservation area Victoria forest park, and the rock and pillar conservation area if and pillar conservation area if there and pillar conservation area if there is and pillar conservation area if there is no and pillar conservation area if there is no intention and pillar conservation area if there is no intention to and pillar conservation area if there is no intention to approve there is no intention to approve mining there is no intention to approve mining activity there is no intention to approve mining activity on there is no intention to approve mining activity on successful mining activity on successful mining activity on successful mining activity on successful prospects? The mining activity on successful prospects? The member mining activity on successful prospects? The member might mining activity on successful prospects? The member might want mining activity on successful prospects? The member might want to prospects? The member might want to ask prospects? The member might want to ask her prospects? The member might want to ask her former prospects? The member might want to ask her former energy prospects? The member might want to ask her former energy minister, ask her former energy minister, bridge ask her former energy minister, bridge Bridges ask her former energy minister, bridge Bridges about ask her former energy minister, bridge Bridges about that, ask her former energy minister, bridge Bridges about that, as ask her former energy minister, bridge Bridges about that, as it bridge Bridges about that, as it appears bridge Bridges about that, as it appears that bridge Bridges about that, as it appears that the bridge Bridges about that, as it appears that the previous appears that the previous administration appears that the previous administration was appears that the previous administration was wanting appears that the previous administration was wanting to administration was wanting to facilitate administration was wanting to facilitate more, administration was wanting to facilitate more, tensive administration was wanting to facilitate more, tensive mining administration was wanting to facilitate more, tensive mining on facilitate more, tensive mining on high facilitate more, tensive mining on high Value facilitate more, tensive mining on high Value conservation facilitate more, tensive mining on high Value conservation lands facilitate more, tensive mining on high Value conservation lands across high Value conservation lands across the high Value conservation lands across the board. high Value conservation lands across the board. 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