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Those with identified development delays. Those petitions with identified development delays. Those petitions stand with identified development delays. Those petitions stand referred Those petitions stand referred to Those petitions stand referred to a Those petitions stand referred to a select Those petitions stand referred to a select committee Those petitions stand referred to a select committee allocated to a select committee allocated by to a select committee allocated by the to a select committee allocated by the Clerk. Ministers Ministers have Ministers have delivered Ministers have delivered papers. Ministers have delivered papers. Statement Ministers have delivered papers. Statement of Ministers have delivered papers. 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How will her Government foster a more will her Government foster a more open will her Government foster a more open and will her Government foster a more open and democratic will her Government foster a more open and democratic society, will her Government foster a more open and democratic society, as open and democratic society, as outlined open and democratic society, as outlined in open and democratic society, as outlined in the open and democratic society, as outlined in the Speech open and democratic society, as outlined in the Speech from open and democratic society, as outlined in the Speech from the outlined in the Speech from the Throne, outlined in the Speech from the Throne, when outlined in the Speech from the Throne, when she outlined in the Speech from the Throne, when she has outlined in the Speech from the Throne, when she has had outlined in the Speech from the Throne, when she has had to outlined in the Speech from the Throne, when she has had to demote Throne, when she has had to demote her Throne, when she has had to demote her minister Throne, when she has had to demote her minister for Throne, when she has had to demote her minister for open Throne, when she has had to demote her minister for open government Throne, when she has had to demote her minister for open government for her minister for open government for not her minister for open government for not being her minister for open government for not being open her minister for open government for not being open and her minister for open government for not being open and transparent her minister for open government for not being open and transparent in not being open and transparent in her not being open and transparent in her answers not being open and transparent in her answers to not being open and transparent in her answers to written not being open and transparent in her answers to written questions? not being open and transparent in her answers to written questions? Mr her answers to written questions? Mr Speaker, her answers to written questions? Mr Speaker, that her answers to written questions? Mr Speaker, that is her answers to written questions? Mr Speaker, that is exactly her answers to written questions? Mr Speaker, that is exactly why her answers to written questions? Mr Speaker, that is exactly why the Speaker, that is exactly why the Minister Speaker, that is exactly why the Minister has Speaker, that is exactly why the Minister has had Speaker, that is exactly why the Minister has had bear Speaker, that is exactly why the Minister has had bear the Speaker, that is exactly why the Minister has had bear the brunt Speaker, that is exactly why the Minister has had bear the brunt of Minister has had bear the brunt of consequences Minister has had bear the brunt of consequences of Minister has had bear the brunt of consequences of not Minister has had bear the brunt of consequences of not upholding Minister has had bear the brunt of consequences of not upholding her consequences of not upholding her own consequences of not upholding her own standards. consequences of not upholding her own standards. And consequences of not upholding her own standards. And on consequences of not upholding her own standards. And on her consequences of not upholding her own standards. And on her own own standards. And on her own measure, own standards. And on her own measure, she own standards. And on her own measure, she has own standards. And on her own measure, she has acknowledged own standards. And on her own measure, she has acknowledged that measure, she has acknowledged that those measure, she has acknowledged that those errors measure, she has acknowledged that those errors led measure, she has acknowledged that those errors led to measure, she has acknowledged that those errors led to a measure, she has acknowledged that those errors led to a perception those errors led to a perception that those errors led to a perception that she those errors led to a perception that she wasn't those errors led to a perception that she wasn't open those errors led to a perception that she wasn't open in those errors led to a perception that she wasn't open in her those errors led to a perception that she wasn't open in her actions, that she wasn't open in her actions, which that she wasn't open in her actions, which is that she wasn't open in her actions, which is why that she wasn't open in her actions, which is why she that she wasn't open in her actions, which is why she absolutely that she wasn't open in her actions, which is why she absolutely accepted which is why she absolutely accepted and which is why she absolutely accepted and offered which is why she absolutely accepted and offered up which is why she absolutely accepted and offered up the which is why she absolutely accepted and offered up the role which is why she absolutely accepted and offered up the role of which is why she absolutely accepted and offered up the role of Open and offered up the role of Open Government. and offered up the role of Open Government. Did and offered up the role of Open Government. Did she and offered up the role of Open Government. Did she ask and offered up the role of Open Government. Did she ask Clare and offered up the role of Open Government. Did she ask Clare Curran Government. Did she ask Clare Curran why Government. Did she ask Clare Curran why she Government. Did she ask Clare Curran why she had Government. Did she ask Clare Curran why she had not Government. Did she ask Clare Curran why she had not noted Government. Did she ask Clare Curran why she had not noted her Government. Did she ask Clare Curran why she had not noted her meeting why she had not noted her meeting with why she had not noted her meeting with Derek why she had not noted her meeting with Derek Handily why she had not noted her meeting with Derek Handily in why she had not noted her meeting with Derek Handily in her why she had not noted her meeting with Derek Handily in her diary, with Derek Handily in her diary, considering with Derek Handily in her diary, considering just with Derek Handily in her diary, considering just one with Derek Handily in her diary, considering just one week with Derek Handily in her diary, considering just one week prior with Derek Handily in her diary, considering just one week prior to considering just one week prior to that considering just one week prior to that meeting considering just one week prior to that meeting she'd considering just one week prior to that meeting she'd been considering just one week prior to that meeting she'd been asked considering just one week prior to that meeting she'd been asked an that meeting she'd been asked an Oral that meeting she'd been asked an Oral Question that meeting she'd been asked an Oral Question in that meeting she'd been asked an Oral Question in the that meeting she'd been asked an Oral Question in the House that meeting she'd been asked an Oral Question in the House about that meeting she'd been asked an Oral Question in the House about her Oral Question in the House about her failure Oral Question in the House about her failure to Oral Question in the House about her failure to record Oral Question in the House about her failure to record her Oral Question in the House about her failure to record her breakfast failure to record her breakfast meeting failure to record her breakfast meeting with failure to record her breakfast meeting with Carol failure to record her breakfast meeting with Carol Hershfield? failure to record her breakfast meeting with Carol Hershfield? Mr meeting with Carol Hershfield? Mr Speaker, meeting with Carol Hershfield? Mr Speaker, I've meeting with Carol Hershfield? Mr Speaker, I've been meeting with Carol Hershfield? Mr Speaker, I've been asked meeting with Carol Hershfield? Mr Speaker, I've been asked this Speaker, I've been asked this question Speaker, I've been asked this question via Speaker, I've been asked this question via the Speaker, I've been asked this question via the media Speaker, I've been asked this question via the media and Speaker, I've been asked this question via the media and have question via the media and have given question via the media and have given the question via the media and have given the same question via the media and have given the same answer question via the media and have given the same answer I'm question via the media and have given the same answer I'm happy question via the media and have given the same answer I'm happy to given the same answer I'm happy to give given the same answer I'm happy to give the given the same answer I'm happy to give the House. given the same answer I'm happy to give the House. The given the same answer I'm happy to give the House. The member, given the same answer I'm happy to give the House. The member, of give the House. The member, of course, give the House. The member, of course, recalls give the House. The member, of course, recalls the give the House. The member, of course, recalls the meeting give the House. The member, of course, recalls the meeting she give the House. The member, of course, recalls the meeting she had. course, recalls the meeting she had. It course, recalls the meeting she had. It wasn't course, recalls the meeting she had. It wasn't recorded, course, recalls the meeting she had. It wasn't recorded, and course, recalls the meeting she had. It wasn't recorded, and that's It wasn't recorded, and that's something It wasn't recorded, and that's something that It wasn't recorded, and that's something that she It wasn't recorded, and that's something that she acknowledges It wasn't recorded, and that's something that she acknowledges was something that she acknowledges was a something that she acknowledges was a complete something that she acknowledges was a complete error. something that she acknowledges was a complete error. It something that she acknowledges was a complete error. It was something that she acknowledges was a complete error. It was set something that she acknowledges was a complete error. It was set up something that she acknowledges was a complete error. It was set up by a complete error. It was set up by herself, a complete error. It was set up by herself, and a complete error. It was set up by herself, and she a complete error. It was set up by herself, and she has a complete error. It was set up by herself, and she has released a complete error. It was set up by herself, and she has released all a complete error. It was set up by herself, and she has released all of herself, and she has released all of the herself, and she has released all of the documentation herself, and she has released all of the documentation surrounding herself, and she has released all of the documentation surrounding that the documentation surrounding that meeting the documentation surrounding that meeting and the documentation surrounding that meeting and the the documentation surrounding that meeting and the establishment the documentation surrounding that meeting and the establishment of meeting and the establishment of that meeting and the establishment of that meeting meeting and the establishment of that meeting to meeting and the establishment of that meeting to make meeting and the establishment of that meeting to make it meeting and the establishment of that meeting to make it clear meeting and the establishment of that meeting to make it clear what that meeting to make it clear what happened that meeting to make it clear what happened in that meeting to make it clear what happened in the that meeting to make it clear what happened in the lead-up that meeting to make it clear what happened in the lead-up to that meeting to make it clear what happened in the lead-up to those happened in the lead-up to those events. happened in the lead-up to those events. Has happened in the lead-up to those events. Has she happened in the lead-up to those events. Has she or happened in the lead-up to those events. Has she or her happened in the lead-up to those events. Has she or her office happened in the lead-up to those events. Has she or her office sought events. Has she or her office sought an events. Has she or her office sought an undertaking events. Has she or her office sought an undertaking from events. Has she or her office sought an undertaking from the events. Has she or her office sought an undertaking from the Hon events. Has she or her office sought an undertaking from the Hon Clare an undertaking from the Hon Clare Curran an undertaking from the Hon Clare Curran that an undertaking from the Hon Clare Curran that she an undertaking from the Hon Clare Curran that she has an undertaking from the Hon Clare Curran that she has now an undertaking from the Hon Clare Curran that she has now transferred Curran that she has now transferred all Curran that she has now transferred all appropriate Curran that she has now transferred all appropriate records Curran that she has now transferred all appropriate records from Curran that she has now transferred all appropriate records from her all appropriate records from her private all appropriate records from her private Gmail all appropriate records from her private Gmail account all appropriate records from her private Gmail account to all appropriate records from her private Gmail account to her private Gmail account to her ministerial private Gmail account to her ministerial email private Gmail account to her ministerial email accounts private Gmail account to her ministerial email accounts so private Gmail account to her ministerial email accounts so that ministerial email accounts so that they ministerial email accounts so that they can ministerial email accounts so that they can be ministerial email accounts so that they can be searched ministerial email accounts so that they can be searched for ministerial email accounts so that they can be searched for official they can be searched for official information, they can be searched for official information, and they can be searched for official information, and to they can be searched for official information, and to ensure they can be searched for official information, and to ensure that information, and to ensure that appropriate information, and to ensure that appropriate public information, and to ensure that appropriate public records information, and to ensure that appropriate public records are appropriate public records are maintained? appropriate public records are maintained? Mr appropriate public records are maintained? Mr Speaker, appropriate public records are maintained? Mr Speaker, as appropriate public records are maintained? Mr Speaker, as the maintained? Mr Speaker, as the member maintained? Mr Speaker, as the member will maintained? Mr Speaker, as the member will know, maintained? Mr Speaker, as the member will know, the maintained? Mr Speaker, as the member will know, the Official member will know, the Official Information member will know, the Official Information Act member will know, the Official Information Act is member will know, the Official Information Act is mode-neutral, Information Act is mode-neutral, regardless Information Act is mode-neutral, regardless of Information Act is mode-neutral, regardless of whether Information Act is mode-neutral, regardless of whether or Information Act is mode-neutral, regardless of whether or not regardless of whether or not information regardless of whether or not information is regardless of whether or not information is held regardless of whether or not information is held on regardless of whether or not information is held on a regardless of whether or not information is held on a Gmail information is held on a Gmail account information is held on a Gmail account or information is held on a Gmail account or a information is held on a Gmail account or a parliamentary information is held on a Gmail account or a parliamentary account. account or a parliamentary account. It account or a parliamentary account. It is account or a parliamentary account. It is subject account or a parliamentary account. It is subject to account or a parliamentary account. It is subject to the account or a parliamentary account. It is subject to the Official It is subject to the Official Information It is subject to the Official Information Act. It is subject to the Official Information Act. That It is subject to the Official Information Act. That is It is subject to the Official Information Act. That is the It is subject to the Official Information Act. That is the key. Information Act. That is the key. The Information Act. That is the key. The member, Information Act. That is the key. The member, though, Information Act. That is the key. The member, though, proactively Information Act. That is the key. The member, though, proactively - The member, though, proactively - when The member, though, proactively - when this The member, though, proactively - when this issue The member, though, proactively - when this issue came The member, though, proactively - when this issue came out The member, though, proactively - when this issue came out - The member, though, proactively - when this issue came out - released when this issue came out - released a when this issue came out - released a number when this issue came out - released a number of when this issue came out - released a number of different when this issue came out - released a number of different pieces when this issue came out - released a number of different pieces of a number of different pieces of information a number of different pieces of information relating a number of different pieces of information relating to a number of different pieces of information relating to this information relating to this particular information relating to this particular incident information relating to this particular incident in information relating to this particular incident in order information relating to this particular incident in order to information relating to this particular incident in order to be particular incident in order to be transparent particular incident in order to be transparent around particular incident in order to be transparent around what particular incident in order to be transparent around what happened. transparent around what happened. But transparent around what happened. But it's transparent around what happened. But it's OIA'able. transparent around what happened. But it's OIA'able. Does transparent around what happened. But it's OIA'able. Does she transparent around what happened. But it's OIA'able. Does she agree But it's OIA'able. Does she agree with But it's OIA'able. Does she agree with Bryce But it's OIA'able. Does she agree with Bryce Edwards' But it's OIA'able. Does she agree with Bryce Edwards' comments But it's OIA'able. Does she agree with Bryce Edwards' comments that with Bryce Edwards' comments that the with Bryce Edwards' comments that the same with Bryce Edwards' comments that the same mistake with Bryce Edwards' comments that the same mistake by with Bryce Edwards' comments that the same mistake by the with Bryce Edwards' comments that the same mistake by the same with Bryce Edwards' comments that the same mistake by the same person the same mistake by the same person leading the same mistake by the same person leading to the same mistake by the same person leading to the the same mistake by the same person leading to the same the same mistake by the same person leading to the same serious the same mistake by the same person leading to the same serious outcome leading to the same serious outcome - leading to the same serious outcome - misleading leading to the same serious outcome - misleading parliament leading to the same serious outcome - misleading parliament - leading to the same serious outcome - misleading parliament - within leading to the same serious outcome - misleading parliament - within a - misleading parliament - within a few - misleading parliament - within a few months - misleading parliament - within a few months is - misleading parliament - within a few months is "corrosive"? - misleading parliament - within a few months is "corrosive"? If - misleading parliament - within a few months is "corrosive"? If not, few months is "corrosive"? If not, why few months is "corrosive"? If not, why not? few months is "corrosive"? If not, why not? Mr few months is "corrosive"? If not, why not? Mr Speaker, few months is "corrosive"? If not, why not? Mr Speaker, I few months is "corrosive"? If not, why not? Mr Speaker, I do few months is "corrosive"? If not, why not? Mr Speaker, I do not. few months is "corrosive"? If not, why not? Mr Speaker, I do not. Was why not? Mr Speaker, I do not. Was David why not? Mr Speaker, I do not. Was David Cormack why not? Mr Speaker, I do not. Was David Cormack correct why not? Mr Speaker, I do not. Was David Cormack correct in why not? Mr Speaker, I do not. Was David Cormack correct in his why not? Mr Speaker, I do not. Was David Cormack correct in his New David Cormack correct in his New Zealand David Cormack correct in his New Zealand Herald David Cormack correct in his New Zealand Herald column David Cormack correct in his New Zealand Herald column on David Cormack correct in his New Zealand Herald column on 27 David Cormack correct in his New Zealand Herald column on 27 August Zealand Herald column on 27 August when Zealand Herald column on 27 August when he Zealand Herald column on 27 August when he said Zealand Herald column on 27 August when he said that Zealand Herald column on 27 August when he said that the Zealand Herald column on 27 August when he said that the Dept Zealand Herald column on 27 August when he said that the Dept of when he said that the Dept of Internal when he said that the Dept of Internal Affairs when he said that the Dept of Internal Affairs told when he said that the Dept of Internal Affairs told the when he said that the Dept of Internal Affairs told the PM's Internal Affairs told the PM's office Internal Affairs told the PM's office about Internal Affairs told the PM's office about Clare Internal Affairs told the PM's office about Clare Curran's Internal Affairs told the PM's office about Clare Curran's meeting office about Clare Curran's meeting with office about Clare Curran's meeting with Derek office about Clare Curran's meeting with Derek Handley, office about Clare Curran's meeting with Derek Handley, and office about Clare Curran's meeting with Derek Handley, and how office about Clare Curran's meeting with Derek Handley, and how does with Derek Handley, and how does this with Derek Handley, and how does this square with Derek Handley, and how does this square with with Derek Handley, and how does this square with her with Derek Handley, and how does this square with her press this square with her press conference this square with her press conference on this square with her press conference on 24 this square with her press conference on 24 August this square with her press conference on 24 August when this square with her press conference on 24 August when she conference on 24 August when she said conference on 24 August when she said Minister conference on 24 August when she said Minister Clare conference on 24 August when she said Minister Clare Curran's conference on 24 August when she said Minister Clare Curran's office said Minister Clare Curran's office alerted said Minister Clare Curran's office alerted her said Minister Clare Curran's office alerted her office said Minister Clare Curran's office alerted her office about said Minister Clare Curran's office alerted her office about the alerted her office about the meeting? alerted her office about the meeting? That alerted her office about the meeting? That is alerted her office about the meeting? That is the alerted her office about the meeting? That is the case. alerted her office about the meeting? That is the case. I alerted her office about the meeting? That is the case. I was meeting? That is the case. I was alerted meeting? That is the case. I was alerted by meeting? That is the case. I was alerted by Minister meeting? That is the case. I was alerted by Minister Curran's meeting? That is the case. I was alerted by Minister Curran's office. alerted by Minister Curran's office. Question alerted by Minister Curran's office. Question No. alerted by Minister Curran's office. Question No. 2 alerted by Minister Curran's office. Question No. 2 - alerted by Minister Curran's office. Question No. 2 - Clayton alerted by Minister Curran's office. Question No. 2 - Clayton Mitchell. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Infrastructure: Minister for Infrastructure: What Minister for Infrastructure: What announcements What announcements has What announcements has he What announcements has he made What announcements has he made recently? The The Hon The Hon Shane The Hon Shane Jones. The Hon Shane Jones. Mr The Hon Shane Jones. Mr Speaker, The Hon Shane Jones. Mr Speaker, I The Hon Shane Jones. Mr Speaker, I recently The Hon Shane Jones. Mr Speaker, I recently - The Hon Shane Jones. Mr Speaker, I recently - at The Hon Shane Jones. Mr Speaker, I recently - at the The Hon Shane Jones. Mr Speaker, I recently - at the Building The Hon Shane Jones. Mr Speaker, I recently - at the Building Nations recently - at the Building Nations Symposium recently - at the Building Nations Symposium in recently - at the Building Nations Symposium in Auckland, recently - at the Building Nations Symposium in Auckland, Cabinet Symposium in Auckland, Cabinet mandated Symposium in Auckland, Cabinet mandated me Symposium in Auckland, Cabinet mandated me to Symposium in Auckland, Cabinet mandated me to announce Symposium in Auckland, Cabinet mandated me to announce the mandated me to announce the establishment mandated me to announce the establishment of mandated me to announce the establishment of a mandated me to announce the establishment of a new mandated me to announce the establishment of a new independent establishment of a new independent entity. establishment of a new independent entity. It establishment of a new independent entity. It has establishment of a new independent entity. It has taken establishment of a new independent entity. It has taken not establishment of a new independent entity. It has taken not longer establishment of a new independent entity. It has taken not longer than entity. It has taken not longer than nine entity. It has taken not longer than nine months entity. It has taken not longer than nine months to entity. It has taken not longer than nine months to have entity. It has taken not longer than nine months to have this entity. It has taken not longer than nine months to have this entity entity. It has taken not longer than nine months to have this entity well nine months to have this entity well on nine months to have this entity well on the nine months to have this entity well on the way nine months to have this entity well on the way to nine months to have this entity well on the way to being nine months to have this entity well on the way to being erected nine months to have this entity well on the way to being erected - nine months to have this entity well on the way to being erected - unlike on the way to being erected - unlike the on the way to being erected - unlike the nine on the way to being erected - unlike the nine years on the way to being erected - unlike the nine years when on the way to being erected - unlike the nine years when the on the way to being erected - unlike the nine years when the industry the nine years when the industry called the nine years when the industry called for the nine years when the industry called for it. the nine years when the industry called for it. The the nine years when the industry called for it. The level the nine years when the industry called for it. The level of called for it. The level of confidence called for it. The level of confidence reflected called for it. The level of confidence reflected back called for it. The level of confidence reflected back to called for it. The level of confidence reflected back to me confidence reflected back to me through confidence reflected back to me through this confidence reflected back to me through this decision confidence reflected back to me through this decision reflects confidence reflected back to me through this decision reflects very through this decision reflects very well through this decision reflects very well on through this decision reflects very well on the through this decision reflects very well on the Government's through this decision reflects very well on the Government's approach through this decision reflects very well on the Government's approach to well on the Government's approach to infrastructure. well on the Government's approach to infrastructure. How well on the Government's approach to infrastructure. How will well on the Government's approach to infrastructure. How will the well on the Government's approach to infrastructure. How will the new infrastructure. How will the new entity infrastructure. How will the new entity deliver infrastructure. How will the new entity deliver longer-term entity deliver longer-term infrastructure entity deliver longer-term infrastructure planning entity deliver longer-term infrastructure planning and infrastructure planning and strategy? infrastructure planning and strategy? When infrastructure planning and strategy? When we infrastructure planning and strategy? When we came infrastructure planning and strategy? When we came into strategy? When we came into Government, strategy? When we came into Government, we strategy? When we came into Government, we discovered strategy? When we came into Government, we discovered very Government, we discovered very quickly Government, we discovered very quickly and Government, we discovered very quickly and very Government, we discovered very quickly and very lucidly Government, we discovered very quickly and very lucidly that Government, we discovered very quickly and very lucidly that there quickly and very lucidly that there is quickly and very lucidly that there is a quickly and very lucidly that there is a major quickly and very lucidly that there is a major infrastructure quickly and very lucidly that there is a major infrastructure deficit. is a major infrastructure deficit. There is a major infrastructure deficit. There is is a major infrastructure deficit. There is a is a major infrastructure deficit. There is a desire is a major infrastructure deficit. There is a desire on is a major infrastructure deficit. There is a desire on the is a major infrastructure deficit. There is a desire on the part is a major infrastructure deficit. There is a desire on the part of is a major infrastructure deficit. There is a desire on the part of the There is a desire on the part of the industry There is a desire on the part of the industry for There is a desire on the part of the industry for us There is a desire on the part of the industry for us to There is a desire on the part of the industry for us to create There is a desire on the part of the industry for us to create a There is a desire on the part of the industry for us to create a portal There is a desire on the part of the industry for us to create a portal - industry for us to create a portal - a industry for us to create a portal - a clear industry for us to create a portal - a clear point industry for us to create a portal - a clear point of industry for us to create a portal - a clear point of visibility industry for us to create a portal - a clear point of visibility - industry for us to create a portal - a clear point of visibility - to a clear point of visibility - to enable a clear point of visibility - to enable international, a clear point of visibility - to enable international, domestic, enable international, domestic, trans-Tasman enable international, domestic, trans-Tasman providers enable international, domestic, trans-Tasman providers of enable international, domestic, trans-Tasman providers of either trans-Tasman providers of either capital, trans-Tasman providers of either capital, construction trans-Tasman providers of either capital, construction services, capital, construction services, other capital, construction services, other professional capital, construction services, other professional services capital, construction services, other professional services - capital, construction services, other professional services - to other professional services - to work other professional services - to work with other professional services - to work with the other professional services - to work with the Crown other professional services - to work with the Crown so other professional services - to work with the Crown so we other professional services - to work with the Crown so we can other professional services - to work with the Crown so we can begin work with the Crown so we can begin to work with the Crown so we can begin to deal work with the Crown so we can begin to deal more work with the Crown so we can begin to deal more efficiently work with the Crown so we can begin to deal more efficiently with work with the Crown so we can begin to deal more efficiently with the to deal more efficiently with the large to deal more efficiently with the large infrastructure to deal more efficiently with the large infrastructure investment to deal more efficiently with the large infrastructure investment - large infrastructure investment - yes, large infrastructure investment - yes, Gerry, large infrastructure investment - yes, Gerry, how large infrastructure investment - yes, Gerry, how is large infrastructure investment - yes, Gerry, how is the large infrastructure investment - yes, Gerry, how is the Pink large infrastructure investment - yes, Gerry, how is the Pink Panther yes, Gerry, how is the Pink Panther going? yes, Gerry, how is the Pink Panther going? Thank yes, Gerry, how is the Pink Panther going? Thank you yes, Gerry, how is the Pink Panther going? Thank you very yes, Gerry, how is the Pink Panther going? Thank you very much. yes, Gerry, how is the Pink Panther going? Thank you very much. Order! going? Thank you very much. Order! No, going? Thank you very much. Order! No, the going? Thank you very much. Order! No, the member going? Thank you very much. Order! No, the member will going? Thank you very much. Order! No, the member will resume going? Thank you very much. Order! No, the member will resume his going? Thank you very much. Order! No, the member will resume his seat. No, the member will resume his seat. The No, the member will resume his seat. The last No, the member will resume his seat. The last comment, No, the member will resume his seat. The last comment, in No, the member will resume his seat. The last comment, in two No, the member will resume his seat. The last comment, in two ways, No, the member will resume his seat. The last comment, in two ways, was The last comment, in two ways, was inappropriate. The last comment, in two ways, was inappropriate. The The last comment, in two ways, was inappropriate. The member The last comment, in two ways, was inappropriate. The member will inappropriate. The member will withdraw inappropriate. The member will withdraw and inappropriate. The member will withdraw and apologise. inappropriate. The member will withdraw and apologise. I inappropriate. The member will withdraw and apologise. I withdraw withdraw and apologise. I withdraw and withdraw and apologise. I withdraw and apologise. withdraw and apologise. I withdraw and apologise. What withdraw and apologise. I withdraw and apologise. What feedback withdraw and apologise. I withdraw and apologise. What feedback did withdraw and apologise. I withdraw and apologise. What feedback did the and apologise. What feedback did the announcement and apologise. What feedback did the announcement receive and apologise. What feedback did the announcement receive from and apologise. What feedback did the announcement receive from the announcement receive from the private announcement receive from the private sector? announcement receive from the private sector? Infrastructure announcement receive from the private sector? Infrastructure New private sector? Infrastructure New Zealand, private sector? Infrastructure New Zealand, Mr private sector? Infrastructure New Zealand, Mr Speaker, private sector? Infrastructure New Zealand, Mr Speaker, described private sector? Infrastructure New Zealand, Mr Speaker, described it private sector? 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The The Hon The Hon Grant The Hon Grant Robertson. The Hon Grant Robertson. Mr The Hon Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker... 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The they have been since records began in 1926. The business they have been since records began in 1926. The business confidence in 1926. The business confidence survey in 1926. The business confidence survey the in 1926. The business confidence survey the member in 1926. The business confidence survey the member refers in 1926. The business confidence survey the member refers to in 1926. The business confidence survey the member refers to is in 1926. 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Does he acknowledge that the sharp declines in business sharp declines in business investment sharp declines in business investment intentions, sharp declines in business investment intentions, export investment intentions, export intentions investment intentions, export intentions and investment intentions, export intentions and hiring investment intentions, export intentions and hiring intentions intentions and hiring intentions seen intentions and hiring intentions seen in intentions and hiring intentions seen in the intentions and hiring intentions seen in the most intentions and hiring intentions seen in the most recent intentions and hiring intentions seen in the most recent survey seen in the most recent survey provide seen in the most recent survey provide a seen in the most recent survey provide a clear seen in the most recent survey provide a clear indicator seen in the most recent survey provide a clear indicator of seen in the most recent survey provide a clear indicator of further provide a clear indicator of further slowing provide a clear indicator of further slowing in provide a clear indicator of further slowing in our provide a clear indicator of further slowing in our economy, provide a clear indicator of further slowing in our economy, as provide a clear indicator of further slowing in our economy, as noted provide a clear indicator of further slowing in our economy, as noted by slowing in our economy, as noted by the slowing in our economy, as noted by the ANZ? slowing in our economy, as noted by the ANZ? 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No, I don't accept that and, indeed, the terms of trade and, indeed, the terms of trade numbers and, indeed, the terms of trade numbers yesterday and, indeed, the terms of trade numbers yesterday make and, indeed, the terms of trade numbers yesterday make clear and, indeed, the terms of trade numbers yesterday make clear that, numbers yesterday make clear that, particularly numbers yesterday make clear that, particularly around numbers yesterday make clear that, particularly around exports, numbers yesterday make clear that, particularly around exports, that's particularly around exports, that's not particularly around exports, that's not the particularly around exports, that's not the case. particularly around exports, that's not the case. Is particularly around exports, that's not the case. Is he particularly around exports, that's not the case. Is he aware particularly around exports, that's not the case. Is he aware that particularly around exports, that's not the case. 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I note that, in this survey, 76% of that, in this survey, 76% of businesses that, in this survey, 76% of businesses expected that, in this survey, 76% of businesses expected their that, in this survey, 76% of businesses expected their own businesses expected their own activity businesses expected their own activity to businesses expected their own activity to improve businesses expected their own activity to improve or businesses expected their own activity to improve or remain businesses expected their own activity to improve or remain the activity to improve or remain the same activity to improve or remain the same over activity to improve or remain the same over the activity to improve or remain the same over the next activity to improve or remain the same over the next year, activity to improve or remain the same over the next year, which activity to improve or remain the same over the next year, which I same over the next year, which I think same over the next year, which I think is same over the next year, which I think is a same over the next year, which I think is a slight same over the next year, which I think is a slight tick same over the next year, which I think is a slight tick up. same over the next year, which I think is a slight tick up. 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How will the Government's recently announced the Government's recently announced business the Government's recently announced business partnership the Government's recently announced business partnership agenda the Government's recently announced business partnership agenda give business partnership agenda give hardworking business partnership agenda give hardworking small business partnership agenda give hardworking small businesses hardworking small businesses confidence hardworking small businesses confidence and hardworking small businesses confidence and the hardworking small businesses confidence and the certainty hardworking small businesses confidence and the certainty the hardworking small businesses confidence and the certainty the PM confidence and the certainty the PM promised confidence and the certainty the PM promised them confidence and the certainty the PM promised them when confidence and the certainty the PM promised them when 15 confidence and the certainty the PM promised them when 15 of confidence and the certainty the PM promised them when 15 of the confidence and the certainty the PM promised them when 15 of the 26 promised them when 15 of the 26 policies promised them when 15 of the 26 policies in promised them when 15 of the 26 policies in that promised them when 15 of the 26 policies in that document promised them when 15 of the 26 policies in that document are policies in that document are working policies in that document are working groups policies in that document are working groups with policies in that document are working groups with uncertain working groups with uncertain outcomes? working groups with uncertain outcomes? 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No. If the Urban Development Authority If the Urban Development Authority is If the Urban Development Authority is to If the Urban Development Authority is to become If the Urban Development Authority is to become the If the Urban Development Authority is to become the "planning If the Urban Development Authority is to become the "planning and is to become the "planning and consenting is to become the "planning and consenting authority" is to become the "planning and consenting authority" for is to become the "planning and consenting authority" for KiwiBuild consenting authority" for KiwiBuild developments, consenting authority" for KiwiBuild developments, why consenting authority" for KiwiBuild developments, why should consenting authority" for KiwiBuild developments, why should mum-and-dad developments, why should mum-and-dad developers developments, why should mum-and-dad developers still developments, why should mum-and-dad developers still be developments, why should mum-and-dad developers still be expected developments, why should mum-and-dad developers still be expected to developers still be expected to endure developers still be expected to endure the developers still be expected to endure the delays developers still be expected to endure the delays currently developers still be expected to endure the delays currently expected endure the delays currently expected from endure the delays currently expected from the endure the delays currently expected from the Auckland endure the delays currently expected from the Auckland Council? endure the delays currently expected from the Auckland Council? They from the Auckland Council? They won't, from the Auckland Council? They won't, 'cause from the Auckland Council? They won't, 'cause this from the Auckland Council? They won't, 'cause this Government from the Auckland Council? They won't, 'cause this Government has from the Auckland Council? They won't, 'cause this Government has a won't, 'cause this Government has a complex won't, 'cause this Government has a complex and won't, 'cause this Government has a complex and ambitious won't, 'cause this Government has a complex and ambitious urban won't, 'cause this Government has a complex and ambitious urban growth complex and ambitious urban growth agenda complex and ambitious urban growth agenda that complex and ambitious urban growth agenda that is complex and ambitious urban growth agenda that is designed complex and ambitious urban growth agenda that is designed to complex and ambitious urban growth agenda that is designed to tackle agenda that is designed to tackle all agenda that is designed to tackle all of agenda that is designed to tackle all of the agenda that is designed to tackle all of the problems agenda that is designed to tackle all of the problems and agenda that is designed to tackle all of the problems and the all of the problems and the roadblocks all of the problems and the roadblocks and all of the problems and the roadblocks and the all of the problems and the roadblocks and the consenting all of the problems and the roadblocks and the consenting -- all of the problems and the roadblocks and the consenting -- in roadblocks and the consenting -- in the roadblocks and the consenting -- in the consenting roadblocks and the consenting -- in the consenting system, roadblocks and the consenting -- in the consenting system, the roadblocks and the consenting -- in the consenting system, the way roadblocks and the consenting -- in the consenting system, the way that the consenting system, the way that our the consenting system, the way that our planning the consenting system, the way that our planning system the consenting system, the way that our planning system stops the consenting system, the way that our planning system stops our the consenting system, the way that our planning system stops our towns our planning system stops our towns and our planning system stops our towns and cities our planning system stops our towns and cities from our planning system stops our towns and cities from growing, our planning system stops our towns and cities from growing, the our planning system stops our towns and cities from growing, the way and cities from growing, the way that and cities from growing, the way that the and cities from growing, the way that the infrastructure and cities from growing, the way that the infrastructure financing that the infrastructure financing system that the infrastructure financing system is that the infrastructure financing system is broken that the infrastructure financing system is broken and that the infrastructure financing system is broken and acts that the infrastructure financing system is broken and acts as that the infrastructure financing system is broken and acts as a system is broken and acts as a roadblock system is broken and acts as a roadblock to system is broken and acts as a roadblock to urban system is broken and acts as a roadblock to urban growth. system is broken and acts as a roadblock to urban growth. So system is broken and acts as a roadblock to urban growth. So there roadblock to urban growth. So there is roadblock to urban growth. So there is a roadblock to urban growth. So there is a whole roadblock to urban growth. So there is a whole reform roadblock to urban growth. So there is a whole reform agenda roadblock to urban growth. So there is a whole reform agenda designed roadblock to urban growth. So there is a whole reform agenda designed to is a whole reform agenda designed to tackle is a whole reform agenda designed to tackle the is a whole reform agenda designed to tackle the problems is a whole reform agenda designed to tackle the problems that is a whole reform agenda designed to tackle the problems that the is a whole reform agenda designed to tackle the problems that the current tackle the problems that the current planning tackle the problems that the current planning and tackle the problems that the current planning and consenting tackle the problems that the current planning and consenting system tackle the problems that the current planning and consenting system put planning and consenting system put in planning and consenting system put in the planning and consenting system put in the way planning and consenting system put in the way of planning and consenting system put in the way of all planning and consenting system put in the way of all developers planning and consenting system put in the way of all developers - planning and consenting system put in the way of all developers - not in the way of all developers - not just in the way of all developers - not just mum-and-dad in the way of all developers - not just mum-and-dad developers. in the way of all developers - not just mum-and-dad developers. If, in the way of all developers - not just mum-and-dad developers. If, as just mum-and-dad developers. If, as he just mum-and-dad developers. If, as he has just mum-and-dad developers. If, as he has said, just mum-and-dad developers. If, as he has said, the just mum-and-dad developers. If, as he has said, the Urban just mum-and-dad developers. If, as he has said, the Urban Development he has said, the Urban Development Authority he has said, the Urban Development Authority will he has said, the Urban Development Authority will "be he has said, the Urban Development Authority will "be able he has said, the Urban Development Authority will "be able to he has said, the Urban Development Authority will "be able to override Authority will "be able to override Auckland Authority will "be able to override Auckland Council's Authority will "be able to override Auckland Council's Unitary Authority will "be able to override Auckland Council's Unitary Plan", Auckland Council's Unitary Plan", why Auckland Council's Unitary Plan", why should Auckland Council's Unitary Plan", why should every Auckland Council's Unitary Plan", why should every other Auckland Council's Unitary Plan", why should every other Aucklander why should every other Aucklander have why should every other Aucklander have to why should every other Aucklander have to comply why should every other Aucklander have to comply with why should every other Aucklander have to comply with it? why should every other Aucklander have to comply with it? Because why should every other Aucklander have to comply with it? Because this have to comply with it? Because this Government have to comply with it? Because this Government recognises have to comply with it? Because this Government recognises we have to comply with it? Because this Government recognises we have have to comply with it? Because this Government recognises we have an Government recognises we have an imperative Government recognises we have an imperative that, Government recognises we have an imperative that, in Government recognises we have an imperative that, in our Government recognises we have an imperative that, in our country's imperative that, in our country's largest imperative that, in our country's largest city, imperative that, in our country's largest city, we imperative that, in our country's largest city, we have imperative that, in our country's largest city, we have to imperative that, in our country's largest city, we have to build imperative that, in our country's largest city, we have to build more largest city, we have to build more houses, largest city, we have to build more houses, we largest city, we have to build more houses, we have largest city, we have to build more houses, we have to largest city, we have to build more houses, we have to undertake houses, we have to undertake high-quality houses, we have to undertake high-quality master-planned high-quality master-planned large-scale high-quality master-planned large-scale development, high-quality master-planned large-scale development, we high-quality master-planned large-scale development, we need high-quality master-planned large-scale development, we need an large-scale development, we need an entity large-scale development, we need an entity that large-scale development, we need an entity that can large-scale development, we need an entity that can do large-scale development, we need an entity that can do that large-scale development, we need an entity that can do that 'cause large-scale development, we need an entity that can do that 'cause the entity that can do that 'cause the current entity that can do that 'cause the current institutions entity that can do that 'cause the current institutions and entity that can do that 'cause the current institutions and policy current institutions and policy settings current institutions and policy settings have current institutions and policy settings have singularly current institutions and policy settings have singularly failed current institutions and policy settings have singularly failed to settings have singularly failed to deliver. settings have singularly failed to deliver. We settings have singularly failed to deliver. We have settings have singularly failed to deliver. We have that settings have singularly failed to deliver. We have that ambition, settings have singularly failed to deliver. We have that ambition, and deliver. We have that ambition, and I deliver. We have that ambition, and I guess deliver. We have that ambition, and I guess we deliver. We have that ambition, and I guess we probably deliver. We have that ambition, and I guess we probably shared deliver. We have that ambition, and I guess we probably shared it deliver. We have that ambition, and I guess we probably shared it with I guess we probably shared it with the I guess we probably shared it with the last I guess we probably shared it with the last government, I guess we probably shared it with the last government, because I guess we probably shared it with the last government, because they the last government, because they spent the last government, because they spent 12 the last government, because they spent 12 months the last government, because they spent 12 months consulting the last government, because they spent 12 months consulting with the last government, because they spent 12 months consulting with the spent 12 months consulting with the public spent 12 months consulting with the public on spent 12 months consulting with the public on the spent 12 months consulting with the public on the proposal spent 12 months consulting with the public on the proposal for spent 12 months consulting with the public on the proposal for an spent 12 months consulting with the public on the proposal for an Urban public on the proposal for an Urban Development public on the proposal for an Urban Development Authority. Development Authority. Malo Development Authority. Malo e Development Authority. Malo e lelei, Development Authority. Malo e lelei, Mr Development Authority. Malo e lelei, Mr Speaker. Development Authority. Malo e lelei, Mr Speaker. Why Development Authority. Malo e lelei, Mr Speaker. Why is Development Authority. Malo e lelei, Mr Speaker. Why is the Malo e lelei, Mr Speaker. Why is the Government Malo e lelei, Mr Speaker. Why is the Government establishing Malo e lelei, Mr Speaker. Why is the Government establishing an Malo e lelei, Mr Speaker. Why is the Government establishing an urban Government establishing an urban development Government establishing an urban development authority? development authority? Because development authority? Because traditionally, development authority? Because traditionally, New development authority? Because traditionally, New Zealand's Because traditionally, New Zealand's towns Because traditionally, New Zealand's towns and Because traditionally, New Zealand's towns and cities Because traditionally, New Zealand's towns and cities have Because traditionally, New Zealand's towns and cities have grown Because traditionally, New Zealand's towns and cities have grown simply towns and cities have grown simply by towns and cities have grown simply by turning towns and cities have grown simply by turning neighbouring towns and cities have grown simply by turning neighbouring rural towns and cities have grown simply by turning neighbouring rural land by turning neighbouring rural land into by turning neighbouring rural land into suburban by turning neighbouring rural land into suburban homes. by turning neighbouring rural land into suburban homes. Brownfields into suburban homes. Brownfields development into suburban homes. Brownfields development in into suburban homes. Brownfields development in cities into suburban homes. Brownfields development in cities is into suburban homes. Brownfields development in cities is more development in cities is more difficult development in cities is more difficult and development in cities is more difficult and risky development in cities is more difficult and risky because development in cities is more difficult and risky because of difficult and risky because of poor-quality difficult and risky because of poor-quality infrastructure difficult and risky because of poor-quality infrastructure and poor-quality infrastructure and disparate poor-quality infrastructure and disparate landowners. poor-quality infrastructure and disparate landowners. The poor-quality infrastructure and disparate landowners. The Urban disparate landowners. The Urban Development disparate landowners. The Urban Development Authority disparate landowners. The Urban Development Authority is disparate landowners. The Urban Development Authority is a disparate landowners. The Urban Development Authority is a new disparate landowners. The Urban Development Authority is a new way Development Authority is a new way of Development Authority is a new way of planning Development Authority is a new way of planning these Development Authority is a new way of planning these large-scale of planning these large-scale developments. of planning these large-scale developments. It of planning these large-scale developments. It will of planning these large-scale developments. It will be of planning these large-scale developments. It will be a of planning these large-scale developments. It will be a one-stop developments. It will be a one-stop shop developments. It will be a one-stop shop for developments. It will be a one-stop shop for all developments. It will be a one-stop shop for all the developments. It will be a one-stop shop for all the development shop for all the development capability shop for all the development capability this shop for all the development capability this Government shop for all the development capability this Government needs shop for all the development capability this Government needs to capability this Government needs to build capability this Government needs to build our capability this Government needs to build our way capability this Government needs to build our way out capability this Government needs to build our way out of capability this Government needs to build our way out of the capability this Government needs to build our way out of the national build our way out of the national housing build our way out of the national housing crisis. build our way out of the national housing crisis. What build our way out of the national housing crisis. What is build our way out of the national housing crisis. What is the housing crisis. What is the Government housing crisis. What is the Government doing housing crisis. What is the Government doing to housing crisis. What is the Government doing to free housing crisis. What is the Government doing to free up housing crisis. What is the Government doing to free up land housing crisis. What is the Government doing to free up land and Government doing to free up land and enable Government doing to free up land and enable development? Government doing to free up land and enable development? The Government doing to free up land and enable development? The Government enable development? The Government Government enable development? The Government has an ambitious enable development? The Government has an ambitious plan enable development? The Government has an ambitious plan to enable development? The Government has an ambitious plan to create enable development? The Government has an ambitious plan to create the has an ambitious plan to create the conditions has an ambitious plan to create the conditions so has an ambitious plan to create the conditions so that has an ambitious plan to create the conditions so that the has an ambitious plan to create the conditions so that the market has an ambitious plan to create the conditions so that the market can conditions so that the market can respond conditions so that the market can respond to conditions so that the market can respond to growth conditions so that the market can respond to growth and conditions so that the market can respond to growth and bring conditions so that the market can respond to growth and bring down conditions so that the market can respond to growth and bring down the respond to growth and bring down the high respond to growth and bring down the high cost respond to growth and bring down the high cost of respond to growth and bring down the high cost of urban respond to growth and bring down the high cost of urban land. respond to growth and bring down the high cost of urban land. The respond to growth and bring down the high cost of urban land. The main high cost of urban land. The main objective high cost of urban land. The main objective of high cost of urban land. The main objective of our high cost of urban land. The main objective of our urban high cost of urban land. The main objective of our urban growth high cost of urban land. The main objective of our urban growth agenda objective of our urban growth agenda is objective of our urban growth agenda is to objective of our urban growth agenda is to improve objective of our urban growth agenda is to improve housing objective of our urban growth agenda is to improve housing affordability, is to improve housing affordability, encourage is to improve housing affordability, encourage more is to improve housing affordability, encourage more competitive is to improve housing affordability, encourage more competitive urban encourage more competitive urban land encourage more competitive urban land markets, encourage more competitive urban land markets, and encourage more competitive urban land markets, and improve encourage more competitive urban land markets, and improve housing land markets, and improve housing affordability. land markets, and improve housing affordability. The land markets, and improve housing affordability. The three land markets, and improve housing affordability. The three key land markets, and improve housing affordability. The three key areas affordability. The three key areas are affordability. The three key areas are - affordability. The three key areas are - infrastructure affordability. The three key areas are - infrastructure funding affordability. The three key areas are - infrastructure funding and are - infrastructure funding and financing are - infrastructure funding and financing to are - infrastructure funding and financing to enable are - infrastructure funding and financing to enable a are - infrastructure funding and financing to enable a more financing to enable a more responsive financing to enable a more responsive supply financing to enable a more responsive supply of financing to enable a more responsive supply of infrastructure responsive supply of infrastructure finance, responsive supply of infrastructure finance, urban responsive supply of infrastructure finance, urban planning responsive supply of infrastructure finance, urban planning that responsive supply of infrastructure finance, urban planning that allows finance, urban planning that allows our finance, urban planning that allows our cities finance, urban planning that allows our cities to finance, urban planning that allows our cities to grow finance, urban planning that allows our cities to grow up finance, urban planning that allows our cities to grow up and finance, urban planning that allows our cities to grow up and out, finance, urban planning that allows our cities to grow up and out, while our cities to grow up and out, while delivering our cities to grow up and out, while delivering a our cities to grow up and out, while delivering a quality our cities to grow up and out, while delivering a quality built delivering a quality built environment, delivering a quality built environment, and delivering a quality built environment, and thirdly delivering a quality built environment, and thirdly - delivering a quality built environment, and thirdly - a environment, and thirdly - a stronger environment, and thirdly - a stronger spatial environment, and thirdly - a stronger spatial planning stronger spatial planning partnership stronger spatial planning partnership so stronger spatial planning partnership so that stronger spatial planning partnership so that central partnership so that central government partnership so that central government and partnership so that central government and local partnership so that central government and local government partnership so that central government and local government can government and local government can plan government and local government can plan together government and local government can plan together for government and local government can plan together for growth. plan together for growth. Will plan together for growth. Will he plan together for growth. Will he support plan together for growth. Will he support substantive plan together for growth. Will he support substantive reform Will he support substantive reform of Will he support substantive reform of the Will he support substantive reform of the Resource Will he support substantive reform of the Resource Management Will he support substantive reform of the Resource Management Act Will he support substantive reform of the Resource Management Act to of the Resource Management Act to enable of the Resource Management Act to enable housing of the Resource Management Act to enable housing and of the Resource Management Act to enable housing and urban of the Resource Management Act to enable housing and urban development enable housing and urban development to enable housing and urban development to proceed enable housing and urban development to proceed efficiently enable housing and urban development to proceed efficiently for enable housing and urban development to proceed efficiently for all enable housing and urban development to proceed efficiently for all New to proceed efficiently for all New Zealanders? to proceed efficiently for all New Zealanders? Well, to proceed efficiently for all New Zealanders? Well, if to proceed efficiently for all New Zealanders? Well, if the to proceed efficiently for all New Zealanders? Well, if the National Zealanders? Well, if the National Party's Zealanders? Well, if the National Party's offering Zealanders? Well, if the National Party's offering a Zealanders? Well, if the National Party's offering a bipartisan Party's offering a bipartisan opportunity Party's offering a bipartisan opportunity to Party's offering a bipartisan opportunity to support Party's offering a bipartisan opportunity to support reforms Party's offering a bipartisan opportunity to support reforms to opportunity to support reforms to the opportunity to support reforms to the planning opportunity to support reforms to the planning system opportunity to support reforms to the planning system that opportunity to support reforms to the planning system that genuinely the planning system that genuinely encourage the planning system that genuinely encourage more the planning system that genuinely encourage more urban the planning system that genuinely encourage more urban growth the planning system that genuinely encourage more urban growth and the planning system that genuinely encourage more urban growth and more encourage more urban growth and more affordable encourage more urban growth and more affordable housing, encourage more urban growth and more affordable housing, our encourage more urban growth and more affordable housing, our side encourage more urban growth and more affordable housing, our side of encourage more urban growth and more affordable housing, our side of the affordable housing, our side of the House affordable housing, our side of the House would affordable housing, our side of the House would support affordable housing, our side of the House would support that. House would support that. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> But <INTERRUPTION> But what <INTERRUPTION> But what we <INTERRUPTION> But what we saw <INTERRUPTION> But what we saw for <INTERRUPTION> But what we saw for nine <INTERRUPTION> But what we saw for nine years <INTERRUPTION> But what we saw for nine years from But what we saw for nine years from that But what we saw for nine years from that side But what we saw for nine years from that side of But what we saw for nine years from that side of the But what we saw for nine years from that side of the House But what we saw for nine years from that side of the House was that side of the House was ham-firsted that side of the House was ham-firsted attempts that side of the House was ham-firsted attempts to that side of the House was ham-firsted attempts to gut that side of the House was ham-firsted attempts to gut the that side of the House was ham-firsted attempts to gut the RMA ham-firsted attempts to gut the RMA of ham-firsted attempts to gut the RMA of its ham-firsted attempts to gut the RMA of its environmental ham-firsted attempts to gut the RMA of its environmental protections ham-firsted attempts to gut the RMA of its environmental protections in of its environmental protections in a of its environmental protections in a series of its environmental protections in a series of of its environmental protections in a series of reforms of its environmental protections in a series of reforms that of its environmental protections in a series of reforms that only a series of reforms that only succeeded a series of reforms that only succeeded in a series of reforms that only succeeded in making a series of reforms that only succeeded in making the a series of reforms that only succeeded in making the RMA a series of reforms that only succeeded in making the RMA more succeeded in making the RMA more expensive succeeded in making the RMA more expensive and succeeded in making the RMA more expensive and more succeeded in making the RMA more expensive and more complicated. expensive and more complicated. Question expensive and more complicated. Question No. expensive and more complicated. Question No. 6 expensive and more complicated. Question No. 6 - expensive and more complicated. Question No. 6 - Anahila expensive and more complicated. Question No. 6 - Anahila Lose Question No. 6 - Anahila Lose Kanongata'a-Suisuiki. Kanongata'a-Suisuiki. <SPEAKING Kanongata'a-Suisuiki. <SPEAKING TONGAN> My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Housing My question is to the Minister of Housing and My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: of Housing and Urban Development: What of Housing and Urban Development: What steps, of Housing and Urban Development: What steps, if of Housing and Urban Development: What steps, if any, What steps, if any, has What steps, if any, has the What steps, if any, has the Government What steps, if any, has the Government taken has the Government taken to has the Government taken to ensure has the Government taken to ensure families to ensure families who to ensure families who are to ensure families who are renting to ensure families who are renting their to ensure families who are renting their homes who are renting their homes have who are renting their homes have secure, who are renting their homes have secure, stable, who are renting their homes have secure, stable, warm, have secure, stable, warm, and have secure, stable, warm, and dry have secure, stable, warm, and dry homes? The The Hon The Hon Phil The Hon Phil Twyford. The Hon Phil Twyford. Thank The Hon Phil Twyford. Thank you, The Hon Phil Twyford. Thank you, Mr The Hon Phil Twyford. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The Hon Phil Twyford. Thank you, Mr Speaker. This The Hon Phil Twyford. Thank you, Mr Speaker. This Government The Hon Phil Twyford. Thank you, Mr Speaker. This Government is Speaker. This Government is fulfilling Speaker. This Government is fulfilling our Speaker. This Government is fulfilling our commitment Speaker. This Government is fulfilling our commitment to Speaker. This Government is fulfilling our commitment to make fulfilling our commitment to make life fulfilling our commitment to make life better fulfilling our commitment to make life better for fulfilling our commitment to make life better for renters. fulfilling our commitment to make life better for renters. Last fulfilling our commitment to make life better for renters. Last week, life better for renters. Last week, the life better for renters. Last week, the Government life better for renters. Last week, the Government asked life better for renters. Last week, the Government asked for life better for renters. Last week, the Government asked for feedback life better for renters. Last week, the Government asked for feedback on the Government asked for feedback on our the Government asked for feedback on our proposed the Government asked for feedback on our proposed changes the Government asked for feedback on our proposed changes to the Government asked for feedback on our proposed changes to the our proposed changes to the Residential our proposed changes to the Residential Tenancies our proposed changes to the Residential Tenancies Act. our proposed changes to the Residential Tenancies Act. Tenancy Residential Tenancies Act. Tenancy laws Residential Tenancies Act. Tenancy laws are Residential Tenancies Act. Tenancy laws are antiquated Residential Tenancies Act. Tenancy laws are antiquated and Residential Tenancies Act. Tenancy laws are antiquated and don't laws are antiquated and don't reflect laws are antiquated and don't reflect the laws are antiquated and don't reflect the fact laws are antiquated and don't reflect the fact that laws are antiquated and don't reflect the fact that renting laws are antiquated and don't reflect the fact that renting is laws are antiquated and don't reflect the fact that renting is now reflect the fact that renting is now a reflect the fact that renting is now a long-term reflect the fact that renting is now a long-term reality reflect the fact that renting is now a long-term reality for reflect the fact that renting is now a long-term reality for so reflect the fact that renting is now a long-term reality for so many a long-term reality for so many families. a long-term reality for so many families. This a long-term reality for so many families. This morning, a long-term reality for so many families. This morning, I a long-term reality for so many families. This morning, I announced families. This morning, I announced our families. This morning, I announced our proposed families. This morning, I announced our proposed Healthy families. This morning, I announced our proposed Healthy Homes families. This morning, I announced our proposed Healthy Homes Guarantee our proposed Healthy Homes Guarantee Standards our proposed Healthy Homes Guarantee Standards - our proposed Healthy Homes Guarantee Standards - the our proposed Healthy Homes Guarantee Standards - the standards our proposed Healthy Homes Guarantee Standards - the standards will our proposed Healthy Homes Guarantee Standards - the standards will set Standards - the standards will set minimum Standards - the standards will set minimum requirements Standards - the standards will set minimum requirements for Standards - the standards will set minimum requirements for heating, minimum requirements for heating, insulation, minimum requirements for heating, insulation, ventilation, minimum requirements for heating, insulation, ventilation, moisture insulation, ventilation, moisture and insulation, ventilation, moisture and drainage, insulation, ventilation, moisture and drainage, and insulation, ventilation, moisture and drainage, and draft-stopping insulation, ventilation, moisture and drainage, and draft-stopping in and drainage, and draft-stopping in all and drainage, and draft-stopping in all rental and drainage, and draft-stopping in all rental properties. all rental properties. <SPEAKING all rental properties. <SPEAKING TONGAN> <SPEAKING TONGAN> What <SPEAKING TONGAN> What effect <SPEAKING TONGAN> What effect will <SPEAKING TONGAN> What effect will the <SPEAKING TONGAN> What effect will the Government's What effect will the Government's proposed What effect will the Government's proposed changes What effect will the Government's proposed changes to What effect will the Government's proposed changes to the What effect will the Government's proposed changes to the Residential proposed changes to the Residential Tenancies proposed changes to the Residential Tenancies Act proposed changes to the Residential Tenancies Act have proposed changes to the Residential Tenancies Act have on proposed changes to the Residential Tenancies Act have on families? Tenancies Act have on families? Insecure Tenancies Act have on families? Insecure tenure Tenancies Act have on families? Insecure tenure can Tenancies Act have on families? Insecure tenure can force Tenancies Act have on families? Insecure tenure can force families Insecure tenure can force families to Insecure tenure can force families to continually Insecure tenure can force families to continually move Insecure tenure can force families to continually move house, Insecure tenure can force families to continually move house, which Insecure tenure can force families to continually move house, which is to continually move house, which is particularly to continually move house, which is particularly tough to continually move house, which is particularly tough on to continually move house, which is particularly tough on children to continually move house, which is particularly tough on children when particularly tough on children when they particularly tough on children when they have particularly tough on children when they have to particularly tough on children when they have to keep particularly tough on children when they have to keep changing particularly tough on children when they have to keep changing schools. they have to keep changing schools. By they have to keep changing schools. By ending they have to keep changing schools. By ending no-cause they have to keep changing schools. By ending no-cause tenancy By ending no-cause tenancy terminations By ending no-cause tenancy terminations while By ending no-cause tenancy terminations while ensuring By ending no-cause tenancy terminations while ensuring that terminations while ensuring that landlords terminations while ensuring that landlords can terminations while ensuring that landlords can still terminations while ensuring that landlords can still get terminations while ensuring that landlords can still get rid terminations while ensuring that landlords can still get rid of terminations while ensuring that landlords can still get rid of rogue landlords can still get rid of rogue tenants landlords can still get rid of rogue tenants and landlords can still get rid of rogue tenants and increasing landlords can still get rid of rogue tenants and increasing the landlords can still get rid of rogue tenants and increasing the amount landlords can still get rid of rogue tenants and increasing the amount of tenants and increasing the amount of notice tenants and increasing the amount of notice a tenants and increasing the amount of notice a landlord tenants and increasing the amount of notice a landlord must tenants and increasing the amount of notice a landlord must give tenants and increasing the amount of notice a landlord must give tenants notice a landlord must give tenants to notice a landlord must give tenants to terminate notice a landlord must give tenants to terminate a notice a landlord must give tenants to terminate a tenancy, notice a landlord must give tenants to terminate a tenancy, we notice a landlord must give tenants to terminate a tenancy, we can notice a landlord must give tenants to terminate a tenancy, we can give to terminate a tenancy, we can give families to terminate a tenancy, we can give families a to terminate a tenancy, we can give families a more to terminate a tenancy, we can give families a more stable to terminate a tenancy, we can give families a more stable home to terminate a tenancy, we can give families a more stable home and to terminate a tenancy, we can give families a more stable home and a families a more stable home and a more families a more stable home and a more secure families a more stable home and a more secure tenure. families a more stable home and a more secure tenure. We're families a more stable home and a more secure tenure. We're also more secure tenure. We're also consulting more secure tenure. We're also consulting on more secure tenure. We're also consulting on limiting more secure tenure. We're also consulting on limiting rent consulting on limiting rent increases consulting on limiting rent increases to consulting on limiting rent increases to once consulting on limiting rent increases to once per consulting on limiting rent increases to once per year, consulting on limiting rent increases to once per year, banning increases to once per year, banning rent increases to once per year, banning rent bidding, increases to once per year, banning rent bidding, and increases to once per year, banning rent bidding, and working increases to once per year, banning rent bidding, and working out increases to once per year, banning rent bidding, and working out how increases to once per year, banning rent bidding, and working out how we rent bidding, and working out how we can rent bidding, and working out how we can better rent bidding, and working out how we can better enable rent bidding, and working out how we can better enable tenants rent bidding, and working out how we can better enable tenants and can better enable tenants and landlords can better enable tenants and landlords to can better enable tenants and landlords to reach can better enable tenants and landlords to reach agreement can better enable tenants and landlords to reach agreement about landlords to reach agreement about pets landlords to reach agreement about pets and landlords to reach agreement about pets and minor landlords to reach agreement about pets and minor alterations landlords to reach agreement about pets and minor alterations to landlords to reach agreement about pets and minor alterations to their pets and minor alterations to their home. home. How home. How will home. How will the home. How will the Healthy home. How will the Healthy Homes home. How will the Healthy Homes Standards How will the Healthy Homes Standards ensure How will the Healthy Homes Standards ensure families How will the Healthy Homes Standards ensure families have How will the Healthy Homes Standards ensure families have warm How will the Healthy Homes Standards ensure families have warm and How will the Healthy Homes Standards ensure families have warm and dry ensure families have warm and dry homes? ensure families have warm and dry homes? We ensure families have warm and dry homes? We know ensure families have warm and dry homes? We know that ensure families have warm and dry homes? We know that rental ensure families have warm and dry homes? We know that rental homes ensure families have warm and dry homes? We know that rental homes are homes? We know that rental homes are more homes? We know that rental homes are more likely homes? We know that rental homes are more likely to homes? We know that rental homes are more likely to be homes? We know that rental homes are more likely to be older homes? We know that rental homes are more likely to be older and homes? We know that rental homes are more likely to be older and of more likely to be older and of poorer more likely to be older and of poorer quality more likely to be older and of poorer quality than more likely to be older and of poorer quality than owner-occupied poorer quality than owner-occupied homes. poorer quality than owner-occupied homes. Approximately poorer quality than owner-occupied homes. Approximately 200,000 poorer quality than owner-occupied homes. Approximately 200,000 - poorer quality than owner-occupied homes. Approximately 200,000 - or homes. Approximately 200,000 - or more homes. Approximately 200,000 - or more than homes. Approximately 200,000 - or more than a homes. Approximately 200,000 - or more than a third homes. Approximately 200,000 - or more than a third of homes. Approximately 200,000 - or more than a third of rental homes. Approximately 200,000 - or more than a third of rental homes homes. Approximately 200,000 - or more than a third of rental homes - more than a third of rental homes - have more than a third of rental homes - have no more than a third of rental homes - have no insulation more than a third of rental homes - have no insulation at more than a third of rental homes - have no insulation at all. more than a third of rental homes - have no insulation at all. Many more than a third of rental homes - have no insulation at all. Many are have no insulation at all. Many are cold have no insulation at all. Many are cold and have no insulation at all. Many are cold and damp have no insulation at all. Many are cold and damp and have no insulation at all. Many are cold and damp and mouldy, have no insulation at all. Many are cold and damp and mouldy, and have no insulation at all. Many are cold and damp and mouldy, and cause cold and damp and mouldy, and cause respiratory cold and damp and mouldy, and cause respiratory illness, cold and damp and mouldy, and cause respiratory illness, toxic cold and damp and mouldy, and cause respiratory illness, toxic reactions respiratory illness, toxic reactions and respiratory illness, toxic reactions and allergies. respiratory illness, toxic reactions and allergies. In respiratory illness, toxic reactions and allergies. In fact, respiratory illness, toxic reactions and allergies. In fact, some respiratory illness, toxic reactions and allergies. In fact, some 40,000 and allergies. In fact, some 40,000 children and allergies. In fact, some 40,000 children go and allergies. In fact, some 40,000 children go to and allergies. In fact, some 40,000 children go to hospital and allergies. In fact, some 40,000 children go to hospital every and allergies. In fact, some 40,000 children go to hospital every year children go to hospital every year with children go to hospital every year with respiratory children go to hospital every year with respiratory infections children go to hospital every year with respiratory infections caused with respiratory infections caused by with respiratory infections caused by illnesses with respiratory infections caused by illnesses related with respiratory infections caused by illnesses related to with respiratory infections caused by illnesses related to poor-quality by illnesses related to poor-quality housing. housing. What housing. What reports housing. What reports has housing. What reports has he housing. What reports has he seen housing. What reports has he seen on housing. What reports has he seen on the housing. What reports has he seen on the need What reports has he seen on the need of What reports has he seen on the need of these What reports has he seen on the need of these reforms? What reports has he seen on the need of these reforms? On What reports has he seen on the need of these reforms? On almost What reports has he seen on the need of these reforms? On almost a What reports has he seen on the need of these reforms? On almost a daily of these reforms? On almost a daily basis, of these reforms? On almost a daily basis, we of these reforms? On almost a daily basis, we see of these reforms? On almost a daily basis, we see stories of these reforms? On almost a daily basis, we see stories of of these reforms? On almost a daily basis, we see stories of tenants of these reforms? On almost a daily basis, we see stories of tenants in basis, we see stories of tenants in homes basis, we see stories of tenants in homes of basis, we see stories of tenants in homes of unacceptable basis, we see stories of tenants in homes of unacceptable quality basis, we see stories of tenants in homes of unacceptable quality or homes of unacceptable quality or being homes of unacceptable quality or being moved homes of unacceptable quality or being moved on homes of unacceptable quality or being moved on from homes of unacceptable quality or being moved on from home homes of unacceptable quality or being moved on from home after homes of unacceptable quality or being moved on from home after home. being moved on from home after home. One being moved on from home after home. One tenant being moved on from home after home. One tenant speaking being moved on from home after home. One tenant speaking to being moved on from home after home. One tenant speaking to RATI being moved on from home after home. One tenant speaking to RATI New One tenant speaking to RATI New Zealand One tenant speaking to RATI New Zealand had One tenant speaking to RATI New Zealand had moved One tenant speaking to RATI New Zealand had moved between One tenant speaking to RATI New Zealand had moved between six Zealand had moved between six different Zealand had moved between six different homes, Zealand had moved between six different homes, including Zealand had moved between six different homes, including spending different homes, including spending a different homes, including spending a week different homes, including spending a week in different homes, including spending a week in a different homes, including spending a week in a basement. different homes, including spending a week in a basement. Recently, different homes, including spending a week in a basement. Recently, the a week in a basement. Recently, the Herald a week in a basement. Recently, the Herald reported a week in a basement. Recently, the Herald reported on a week in a basement. Recently, the Herald reported on the a week in a basement. Recently, the Herald reported on the Papakura Herald reported on the Papakura swamphouse Herald reported on the Papakura swamphouse where Herald reported on the Papakura swamphouse where two Herald reported on the Papakura swamphouse where two young Herald reported on the Papakura swamphouse where two young children swamphouse where two young children were swamphouse where two young children were permanently swamphouse where two young children were permanently sick swamphouse where two young children were permanently sick because swamphouse where two young children were permanently sick because of swamphouse where two young children were permanently sick because of a were permanently sick because of a rubbish-filled were permanently sick because of a rubbish-filled pond were permanently sick because of a rubbish-filled pond under were permanently sick because of a rubbish-filled pond under their rubbish-filled pond under their house. rubbish-filled pond under their house. Question rubbish-filled pond under their house. Question No. rubbish-filled pond under their house. Question No. 7 rubbish-filled pond under their house. Question No. 7 - rubbish-filled pond under their house. Question No. 7 - Jami-Lee house. Question No. 7 - Jami-Lee Ross. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Transport: Minister of Transport: Does Minister of Transport: Does the Minister of Transport: Does the National Minister of Transport: Does the National Land Does the National Land Transport Does the National Land Transport Programme Transport Programme announced Transport Programme announced last Transport Programme announced last week announced last week give announced last week give New announced last week give New Zealand announced last week give New Zealand road announced last week give New Zealand road users give New Zealand road users good give New Zealand road users good value give New Zealand road users good value for give New Zealand road users good value for the give New Zealand road users good value for the road give New Zealand road users good value for the road user give New Zealand road users good value for the road user charges good value for the road user charges and good value for the road user charges and fuel good value for the road user charges and fuel taxes good value for the road user charges and fuel taxes they good value for the road user charges and fuel taxes they are good value for the road user charges and fuel taxes they are paying? The The Hon The Hon Phil The Hon Phil Twyford. The Hon Phil Twyford. Yes, The Hon Phil Twyford. Yes, the The Hon Phil Twyford. Yes, the National The Hon Phil Twyford. Yes, the National Land The Hon Phil Twyford. Yes, the National Land Transport The Hon Phil Twyford. Yes, the National Land Transport programme The Hon Phil Twyford. Yes, the National Land Transport programme is National Land Transport programme is a National Land Transport programme is a record National Land Transport programme is a record investment National Land Transport programme is a record investment including National Land Transport programme is a record investment including a National Land Transport programme is a record investment including a $600 a record investment including a $600 million a record investment including a $600 million increase a record investment including a $600 million increase in a record investment including a $600 million increase in road a record investment including a $600 million increase in road funding a record investment including a $600 million increase in road funding to million increase in road funding to the million increase in road funding to the regions. million increase in road funding to the regions. $5. million increase in road funding to the regions. $5. 7 million increase in road funding to the regions. $5. 7 billion million increase in road funding to the regions. $5. 7 billion for million increase in road funding to the regions. $5. 7 billion for state the regions. $5. 7 billion for state highways, the regions. $5. 7 billion for state highways, including the regions. $5. 7 billion for state highways, including Puhoi the regions. $5. 7 billion for state highways, including Puhoi to highways, including Puhoi to Wellsford, highways, including Puhoi to Wellsford, and highways, including Puhoi to Wellsford, and Transmission highways, including Puhoi to Wellsford, and Transmission Gully, Wellsford, and Transmission Gully, and Wellsford, and Transmission Gully, and $4 Wellsford, and Transmission Gully, and $4 billion Wellsford, and Transmission Gully, and $4 billion to Wellsford, and Transmission Gully, and $4 billion to ease Wellsford, and Transmission Gully, and $4 billion to ease congestion Wellsford, and Transmission Gully, and $4 billion to ease congestion in and $4 billion to ease congestion in our and $4 billion to ease congestion in our major and $4 billion to ease congestion in our major cities. and $4 billion to ease congestion in our major cities. How and $4 billion to ease congestion in our major cities. How is and $4 billion to ease congestion in our major cities. How is it and $4 billion to ease congestion in our major cities. How is it good our major cities. How is it good value our major cities. How is it good value for our major cities. How is it good value for people our major cities. How is it good value for people in our major cities. How is it good value for people in Tauranga our major cities. How is it good value for people in Tauranga to our major cities. How is it good value for people in Tauranga to pay value for people in Tauranga to pay for value for people in Tauranga to pay for fuel value for people in Tauranga to pay for fuel taxes value for people in Tauranga to pay for fuel taxes but value for people in Tauranga to pay for fuel taxes but not value for people in Tauranga to pay for fuel taxes but not receive value for people in Tauranga to pay for fuel taxes but not receive the for fuel taxes but not receive the much-needed for fuel taxes but not receive the much-needed railing for fuel taxes but not receive the much-needed railing on for fuel taxes but not receive the much-needed railing on Highway for fuel taxes but not receive the much-needed railing on Highway 2, much-needed railing on Highway 2, New much-needed railing on Highway 2, New Zealand's much-needed railing on Highway 2, New Zealand's deadliest much-needed railing on Highway 2, New Zealand's deadliest road. much-needed railing on Highway 2, New Zealand's deadliest road. I much-needed railing on Highway 2, New Zealand's deadliest road. I sure New Zealand's deadliest road. I sure New New Zealand's deadliest road. I sure New Zealanders New Zealand's deadliest road. I sure New Zealanders will New Zealand's deadliest road. I sure New Zealanders will know New Zealand's deadliest road. I sure New Zealanders will know that New Zealand's deadliest road. I sure New Zealanders will know that that New Zealanders will know that that road New Zealanders will know that that road suffered New Zealanders will know that that road suffered from New Zealanders will know that that road suffered from neglect. New Zealanders will know that that road suffered from neglect. This road suffered from neglect. This agency road suffered from neglect. This agency is road suffered from neglect. This agency is undertaking road suffered from neglect. This agency is undertaking a-evaluation agency is undertaking a-evaluation for agency is undertaking a-evaluation for the agency is undertaking a-evaluation for the plans agency is undertaking a-evaluation for the plans for agency is undertaking a-evaluation for the plans for that agency is undertaking a-evaluation for the plans for that highway. agency is undertaking a-evaluation for the plans for that highway. We for the plans for that highway. We realise for the plans for that highway. We realise that for the plans for that highway. We realise that nothing for the plans for that highway. We realise that nothing was for the plans for that highway. We realise that nothing was done for the plans for that highway. We realise that nothing was done to realise that nothing was done to that realise that nothing was done to that road. realise that nothing was done to that road. It realise that nothing was done to that road. It needs realise that nothing was done to that road. It needs investment realise that nothing was done to that road. It needs investment and that road. It needs investment and safety that road. It needs investment and safety improvements. that road. It needs investment and safety improvements. Under that road. It needs investment and safety improvements. Under this safety improvements. Under this Government safety improvements. Under this Government it safety improvements. Under this Government it will safety improvements. Under this Government it will get safety improvements. Under this Government it will get them. safety improvements. Under this Government it will get them. How safety improvements. Under this Government it will get them. How is Government it will get them. How is it Government it will get them. How is it good Government it will get them. How is it good value Government it will get them. How is it good value for Government it will get them. How is it good value for the Government it will get them. How is it good value for the people Government it will get them. How is it good value for the people of it good value for the people of Otaki it good value for the people of Otaki to it good value for the people of Otaki to pay it good value for the people of Otaki to pay 12 it good value for the people of Otaki to pay 12 cents it good value for the people of Otaki to pay 12 cents per it good value for the people of Otaki to pay 12 cents per litre it good value for the people of Otaki to pay 12 cents per litre or Otaki to pay 12 cents per litre or more Otaki to pay 12 cents per litre or more in Otaki to pay 12 cents per litre or more in fuel Otaki to pay 12 cents per litre or more in fuel taxes Otaki to pay 12 cents per litre or more in fuel taxes when Otaki to pay 12 cents per litre or more in fuel taxes when they're Otaki to pay 12 cents per litre or more in fuel taxes when they're less more in fuel taxes when they're less likely more in fuel taxes when they're less likely to more in fuel taxes when they're less likely to get more in fuel taxes when they're less likely to get the more in fuel taxes when they're less likely to get the roads more in fuel taxes when they're less likely to get the roads promised more in fuel taxes when they're less likely to get the roads promised to likely to get the roads promised to them likely to get the roads promised to them in likely to get the roads promised to them in the likely to get the roads promised to them in the media. likely to get the roads promised to them in the media. The likely to get the roads promised to them in the media. The people likely to get the roads promised to them in the media. The people of them in the media. The people of Otaki them in the media. The people of Otaki will them in the media. The people of Otaki will benefit them in the media. The people of Otaki will benefit from them in the media. The people of Otaki will benefit from a them in the media. The people of Otaki will benefit from a more Otaki will benefit from a more rational Otaki will benefit from a more rational and Otaki will benefit from a more rational and measured Otaki will benefit from a more rational and measured transport rational and measured transport policy, rational and measured transport policy, that rational and measured transport policy, that invests rational and measured transport policy, that invests in rational and measured transport policy, that invests in safety rational and measured transport policy, that invests in safety -- policy, that invests in safety -- improvements, policy, that invests in safety -- improvements, passing policy, that invests in safety -- improvements, passing lanes, policy, that invests in safety -- improvements, passing lanes, median improvements, passing lanes, median lanes, improvements, passing lanes, median lanes, interjection improvements, passing lanes, median lanes, interjection -- improvements, passing lanes, median lanes, interjection -- intersection lanes, interjection -- intersection upgrades. lanes, interjection -- intersection upgrades. We're lanes, interjection -- intersection upgrades. We're about lanes, interjection -- intersection upgrades. We're about saving lanes, interjection -- intersection upgrades. We're about saving lives upgrades. We're about saving lives across upgrades. We're about saving lives across thousands upgrades. We're about saving lives across thousands of upgrades. We're about saving lives across thousands of kilometre upgrades. We're about saving lives across thousands of kilometre of upgrades. We're about saving lives across thousands of kilometre of the across thousands of kilometre of the transport across thousands of kilometre of the transport network, across thousands of kilometre of the transport network, not across thousands of kilometre of the transport network, not just across thousands of kilometre of the transport network, not just a across thousands of kilometre of the transport network, not just a few transport network, not just a few dozen transport network, not just a few dozen kilometres, transport network, not just a few dozen kilometres, which transport network, not just a few dozen kilometres, which was transport network, not just a few dozen kilometres, which was the dozen kilometres, which was the policy dozen kilometres, which was the policy of dozen kilometres, which was the policy of the dozen kilometres, which was the policy of the former dozen kilometres, which was the policy of the former government. policy of the former government. Will policy of the former government. Will the policy of the former government. Will the tram policy of the former government. Will the tram projects policy of the former government. Will the tram projects in policy of the former government. Will the tram projects in Auckland Will the tram projects in Auckland that Will the tram projects in Auckland that he's Will the tram projects in Auckland that he's been Will the tram projects in Auckland that he's been championing Will the tram projects in Auckland that he's been championing be Will the tram projects in Auckland that he's been championing be funded that he's been championing be funded from that he's been championing be funded from revenue that he's been championing be funded from revenue gained that he's been championing be funded from revenue gained from that he's been championing be funded from revenue gained from fuel that he's been championing be funded from revenue gained from fuel taxes? from revenue gained from fuel taxes? Per from revenue gained from fuel taxes? Per -- from revenue gained from fuel taxes? Per -- taxes? from revenue gained from fuel taxes? Per -- taxes? The from revenue gained from fuel taxes? Per -- taxes? The light from revenue gained from fuel taxes? Per -- taxes? The light rail from revenue gained from fuel taxes? Per -- taxes? The light rail rapid Per -- taxes? The light rail rapid transit Per -- taxes? The light rail rapid transit project Per -- taxes? The light rail rapid transit project in Per -- taxes? The light rail rapid transit project in Auckland Per -- taxes? The light rail rapid transit project in Auckland will Per -- taxes? The light rail rapid transit project in Auckland will not transit project in Auckland will not be transit project in Auckland will not be funded transit project in Auckland will not be funded through transit project in Auckland will not be funded through the transit project in Auckland will not be funded through the Regional transit project in Auckland will not be funded through the Regional Fuel be funded through the Regional Fuel Tax be funded through the Regional Fuel Tax as be funded through the Regional Fuel Tax as the be funded through the Regional Fuel Tax as the member be funded through the Regional Fuel Tax as the member has be funded through the Regional Fuel Tax as the member has consistently Tax as the member has consistently claimed Tax as the member has consistently claimed through Tax as the member has consistently claimed through the Tax as the member has consistently claimed through the media. Tax as the member has consistently claimed through the media. But Tax as the member has consistently claimed through the media. But $1.8 claimed through the media. But $1.8 billion claimed through the media. But $1.8 billion has claimed through the media. But $1.8 billion has been claimed through the media. But $1.8 billion has been set claimed through the media. But $1.8 billion has been set aside claimed through the media. But $1.8 billion has been set aside as claimed through the media. But $1.8 billion has been set aside as part billion has been set aside as part of billion has been set aside as part of the billion has been set aside as part of the 28-billion-dollar, billion has been set aside as part of the 28-billion-dollar, 10-year of the 28-billion-dollar, 10-year transport of the 28-billion-dollar, 10-year transport investment of the 28-billion-dollar, 10-year transport investment plan of the 28-billion-dollar, 10-year transport investment plan that of the 28-billion-dollar, 10-year transport investment plan that this transport investment plan that this government transport investment plan that this government put transport investment plan that this government put together transport investment plan that this government put together in government put together in cooperation government put together in cooperation with government put together in cooperation with Auckland government put together in cooperation with Auckland Council. cooperation with Auckland Council. The cooperation with Auckland Council. The first cooperation with Auckland Council. The first time cooperation with Auckland Council. The first time there cooperation with Auckland Council. The first time there has cooperation with Auckland Council. The first time there has ever cooperation with Auckland Council. The first time there has ever been cooperation with Auckland Council. The first time there has ever been a The first time there has ever been a fully-funded The first time there has ever been a fully-funded 10-year The first time there has ever been a fully-funded 10-year transport The first time there has ever been a fully-funded 10-year transport plan fully-funded 10-year transport plan for fully-funded 10-year transport plan for Auckland. for Auckland. Why for Auckland. Why should for Auckland. Why should people for Auckland. Why should people in for Auckland. Why should people in Tauranga for Auckland. Why should people in Tauranga and Why should people in Tauranga and Otaki Why should people in Tauranga and Otaki pay Why should people in Tauranga and Otaki pay 12 Why should people in Tauranga and Otaki pay 12 cents Why should people in Tauranga and Otaki pay 12 cents a Why should people in Tauranga and Otaki pay 12 cents a litre Why should people in Tauranga and Otaki pay 12 cents a litre more Why should people in Tauranga and Otaki pay 12 cents a litre more in Otaki pay 12 cents a litre more in fuel Otaki pay 12 cents a litre more in fuel taxes Otaki pay 12 cents a litre more in fuel taxes to Otaki pay 12 cents a litre more in fuel taxes to fund Otaki pay 12 cents a litre more in fuel taxes to fund Auckland Otaki pay 12 cents a litre more in fuel taxes to fund Auckland trams fuel taxes to fund Auckland trams when fuel taxes to fund Auckland trams when his fuel taxes to fund Auckland trams when his government fuel taxes to fund Auckland trams when his government won't fuel taxes to fund Auckland trams when his government won't commit fuel taxes to fund Auckland trams when his government won't commit to when his government won't commit to funding when his government won't commit to funding much-needed when his government won't commit to funding much-needed roads when his government won't commit to funding much-needed roads in when his government won't commit to funding much-needed roads in their funding much-needed roads in their communities? funding much-needed roads in their communities? No funding much-needed roads in their communities? No amount funding much-needed roads in their communities? No amount of communities? No amount of scaremongering communities? No amount of scaremongering can communities? No amount of scaremongering can change communities? No amount of scaremongering can change the communities? No amount of scaremongering can change the fact scaremongering can change the fact that scaremongering can change the fact that under scaremongering can change the fact that under our scaremongering can change the fact that under our transport scaremongering can change the fact that under our transport plan scaremongering can change the fact that under our transport plan we're that under our transport plan we're putting that under our transport plan we're putting $600 that under our transport plan we're putting $600 million that under our transport plan we're putting $600 million more that under our transport plan we're putting $600 million more into putting $600 million more into roading putting $600 million more into roading in putting $600 million more into roading in the putting $600 million more into roading in the regions putting $600 million more into roading in the regions than putting $600 million more into roading in the regions than is putting $600 million more into roading in the regions than is going roading in the regions than is going into roading in the regions than is going into the roading in the regions than is going into the six roading in the regions than is going into the six biggest roading in the regions than is going into the six biggest metropolitan into the six biggest metropolitan centres into the six biggest metropolitan centres - into the six biggest metropolitan centres - a into the six biggest metropolitan centres - a bigger into the six biggest metropolitan centres - a bigger increase into the six biggest metropolitan centres - a bigger increase than into the six biggest metropolitan centres - a bigger increase than we centres - a bigger increase than we ever centres - a bigger increase than we ever saw centres - a bigger increase than we ever saw under centres - a bigger increase than we ever saw under the centres - a bigger increase than we ever saw under the former ever saw under the former government. government. Question government. government. government. Question no. 8, government. Question no. 8, the government. Question no. 8, the Hon government. Question no. 8, the Hon Michael Question no. 8, the Hon Michael Woodhouse. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Greater My question is to the Minister for Greater Christchurch My question is to the Minister for Greater Christchurch Regeneration: Greater Christchurch Regeneration: What Greater Christchurch Regeneration: What progress, Greater Christchurch Regeneration: What progress, if Greater Christchurch Regeneration: What progress, if any, What progress, if any, has What progress, if any, has this What progress, if any, has this Government What progress, if any, has this Government made has this Government made towards has this Government made towards the has this Government made towards the regeneration towards the regeneration towards the regeneration towards the regeneration of Greater towards the regeneration of Greater Christchurch? The The Hon The Hon Dr The Hon Dr Megan The Hon Dr Megan Woods. The Hon Dr Megan Woods. <SPEAKING The Hon Dr Megan Woods. <SPEAKING TONGAN> <SPEAKING TONGAN> As <SPEAKING TONGAN> As this <SPEAKING TONGAN> As this House <SPEAKING TONGAN> As this House will <SPEAKING TONGAN> As this House will know, <SPEAKING TONGAN> As this House will know, today <SPEAKING TONGAN> As this House will know, today is As this House will know, today is the As this House will know, today is the eighth As this House will know, today is the eighth anniversary As this House will know, today is the eighth anniversary of As this House will know, today is the eighth anniversary of the the eighth anniversary of the September the eighth anniversary of the September earthquake the eighth anniversary of the September earthquake that the eighth anniversary of the September earthquake that disrupted September earthquake that disrupted so September earthquake that disrupted the September earthquake that disrupted so many people's September earthquake that disrupted so many people's lives. September earthquake that disrupted so many people's lives. Since September earthquake that disrupted so many people's lives. Since coming so many people's lives. Since coming to so many people's lives. Since coming to office, so many people's lives. Since coming to office, this so many people's lives. Since coming to office, this government so many people's lives. Since coming to office, this government has to office, this government has worked to office, this government has worked hard to office, this government has worked hard to to office, this government has worked hard to remove to office, this government has worked hard to remove remaining worked hard to remove remaining roadblocks worked hard to remove remaining roadblocks by, worked hard to remove remaining roadblocks by, among worked hard to remove remaining roadblocks by, among other worked hard to remove remaining roadblocks by, among other thing, roadblocks by, among other thing, putting roadblocks by, among other thing, putting mental roadblocks by, among other thing, putting mental health roadblocks by, among other thing, putting mental health support putting mental health support workers putting mental health support workers into putting mental health support workers into our putting mental health support workers into our primary putting mental health support workers into our primary schools, workers into our primary schools, accelerating workers into our primary schools, accelerating the workers into our primary schools, accelerating the resolution workers into our primary schools, accelerating the resolution of accelerating the resolution of outstanding accelerating the resolution of outstanding claims, accelerating the resolution of outstanding claims, and accelerating the resolution of outstanding claims, and putting outstanding claims, and putting stalled outstanding claims, and putting stalled infrastructure outstanding claims, and putting stalled infrastructure projects outstanding claims, and putting stalled infrastructure projects back stalled infrastructure projects back on stalled infrastructure projects back on track stalled infrastructure projects back on track while stalled infrastructure projects back on track while setting stalled infrastructure projects back on track while setting up stalled infrastructure projects back on track while setting up a stalled infrastructure projects back on track while setting up a $300 on track while setting up a $300 million on track while setting up a $300 million capital on track while setting up a $300 million capital fund on track while setting up a $300 million capital fund to on track while setting up a $300 million capital fund to finish on track while setting up a $300 million capital fund to finish the million capital fund to finish the job. million capital fund to finish the job. 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I've now been advised at the time I was sworn been advised at the time I was sworn in been advised at the time I was sworn in as been advised at the time I was sworn in as the been advised at the time I was sworn in as the Minister been advised at the time I was sworn in as the Minister for been advised at the time I was sworn in as the Minister for Employment, in as the Minister for Employment, the in as the Minister for Employment, the official in as the Minister for Employment, the official rate in as the Minister for Employment, the official rate was in as the Minister for Employment, the official rate was 5.8%. the official rate was 5.8%. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Thank <INTERRUPTION> Thank you, <INTERRUPTION> Thank you, sir. <INTERRUPTION> Thank you, sir. Is <INTERRUPTION> Thank you, sir. Is the <INTERRUPTION> Thank you, sir. Is the Minister Thank you, sir. Is the Minister certain Thank you, sir. Is the Minister certain that Thank you, sir. 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Speaker, in June 2017 to 4.5% in June 2018. <INTERRUPTION> June 2018. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. June 2018. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. So June 2018. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. So can June 2018. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. So can we June 2018. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. So can we expect June 2018. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. So can we expect the Supplementary. So can we expect the Minister Supplementary. So can we expect the Minister to Supplementary. So can we expect the Minister to continue Supplementary. 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Mr Speaker, here we go again, Mr Speaker, here we go again, talking Mr Speaker, here we go again, talking about Mr Speaker, here we go again, talking about the Mr Speaker, here we go again, talking about the figures. Mr Speaker, here we go again, talking about the figures. We're talking about the figures. We're very talking about the figures. We're very clear... talking about the figures. 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We have more Maori being employed, we have more Maori being employed, we have more women Maori being employed, we have more women being Maori being employed, we have more women being employed, Maori being employed, we have more women being employed, and Maori being employed, we have more women being employed, and the Maori being employed, we have more women being employed, and the NEET women being employed, and the NEET has women being employed, and the NEET has gone women being employed, and the NEET has gone down women being employed, and the NEET has gone down much women being employed, and the NEET has gone down much than women being employed, and the NEET has gone down much than it women being employed, and the NEET has gone down much than it ever women being employed, and the NEET has gone down much than it ever did has gone down much than it ever did with has gone down much than it ever did with the has gone down much than it ever did with the opposition. has gone down much than it ever did with the opposition. Jamie has gone down much than it ever did with the opposition. Jamie Strange. with the opposition. Jamie Strange. Supplementary. Supplementary. <SPEAKING Supplementary. <SPEAKING TONGAN> <SPEAKING TONGAN> what <SPEAKING TONGAN> what other <SPEAKING TONGAN> what other statistics <SPEAKING TONGAN> what other statistics did <SPEAKING TONGAN> what other statistics did the what other statistics did the Minister what other statistics did the Minister discuss what other statistics did the Minister discuss on what other statistics did the Minister discuss on Newshub what other statistics did the Minister discuss on Newshub Nation Minister discuss on Newshub Nation on Minister discuss on Newshub Nation on 1 Minister discuss on Newshub Nation on 1 September? Minister discuss on Newshub Nation on 1 September? What Minister discuss on Newshub Nation on 1 September? What a Minister discuss on Newshub Nation on 1 September? What a great on 1 September? What a great question. on 1 September? What a great question. I on 1 September? What a great question. I discussed on 1 September? What a great question. I discussed the question. I discussed the unemployment question. I discussed the unemployment rates question. I discussed the unemployment rates of question. I discussed the unemployment rates of Maori, question. I discussed the unemployment rates of Maori, of question. I discussed the unemployment rates of Maori, of pa unemployment rates of Maori, of pa ca, unemployment rates of Maori, of pa ca, of unemployment rates of Maori, of pa ca, of -- unemployment rates of Maori, of pa ca, of -- pa Of Of Pasifika, Of Pasifika, of Of Pasifika, of those Of Pasifika, of those not Of Pasifika, of those not in Of Pasifika, of those not in employment. Of Pasifika, of those not in employment. Maori Of Pasifika, of those not in employment. Maori unemployment Of Pasifika, of those not in employment. Maori unemployment is employment. Maori unemployment is down employment. Maori unemployment is Minister employment. Maori unemployment is down 11.1. And employment. Maori unemployment is down 11.1. And Pasifika employment. Maori unemployment is down 11.1. And Pasifika employment down 11.1. And Pasifika employment is down 11.1. And Pasifika employment is up. down 11.1. And Pasifika employment is up. The down 11.1. And Pasifika employment is up. The NEET down 11.1. And Pasifika employment is up. The NEET rate down 11.1. And Pasifika employment is up. The NEET rate is down 11.1. And Pasifika employment is up. The NEET rate is now down 11.1. And Pasifika employment is up. The NEET rate is now 10.9%, is up. The NEET rate is now 10.9%, down is up. The NEET rate is now 10.9%, down from is up. The NEET rate is now 10.9%, down from 11.2%. is up. The NEET rate is now 10.9%, down from 11.2%. This is up. The NEET rate is now 10.9%, down from 11.2%. This government is up. The NEET rate is now 10.9%, down from 11.2%. This government is down from 11.2%. This government is on down from 11.2%. This government is on track. down from 11.2%. This government is on track. We've down from 11.2%. This government is on track. We've made down from 11.2%. This government is on track. We've made a down from 11.2%. This government is on track. We've made a great down from 11.2%. This government is on track. We've made a great start, on track. We've made a great start, but on track. We've made a great start, but there's on track. We've made a great start, but there's still on track. We've made a great start, but there's still much on track. We've made a great start, but there's still much to on track. We've made a great start, but there's still much to do, on track. 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