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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Housing My question is to the Minister of Housing and My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: of Housing and Urban Development: Does of Housing and Urban Development: Does he of Housing and Urban Development: Does he believe of Housing and Urban Development: Does he believe that of Housing and Urban Development: Does he believe that the of Housing and Urban Development: Does he believe that the residential Does he believe that the residential property Does he believe that the residential property market, property market, as property market, as currently property market, as currently regulated, as currently regulated, leads as currently regulated, leads to as currently regulated, leads to excessive as currently regulated, leads to excessive profits leads to excessive profits for leads to excessive profits for landlords? 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Although steep rent rises have hurt low-income rent rises have hurt low-income renters rent rises have hurt low-income renters in rent rises have hurt low-income renters in many rent rises have hurt low-income renters in many cases rent rises have hurt low-income renters in many cases in rent rises have hurt low-income renters in many cases in recent renters in many cases in recent years, renters in many cases in recent years, in renters in many cases in recent years, in general, renters in many cases in recent years, in general, I do renters in many cases in recent years, in general, I do not renters in many cases in recent years, in general, I do not believe years, in general, I do not believe that years, in general, I do not believe that the years, in general, I do not believe that the Residential years, in general, I do not believe that the Residential Tenancies years, in general, I do not believe that the Residential Tenancies Act that the Residential Tenancies Act 1986 that the Residential Tenancies Act 1986 leads that the Residential Tenancies Act 1986 leads to that the Residential Tenancies Act 1986 leads to excessive that the Residential Tenancies Act 1986 leads to excessive profits that the Residential Tenancies Act 1986 leads to excessive profits for 1986 leads to excessive profits for landlords. 1986 leads to excessive profits for landlords. I 1986 leads to excessive profits for landlords. I do, 1986 leads to excessive profits for landlords. I do, however, 1986 leads to excessive profits for landlords. I do, however, consider landlords. I do, however, consider that landlords. I do, however, consider that the landlords. I do, however, consider that the act landlords. I do, however, consider that the act does landlords. I do, however, consider that the act does not landlords. I do, however, consider that the act does not strike landlords. I do, however, consider that the act does not strike the that the act does not strike the right that the act does not strike the right balance that the act does not strike the right balance between that the act does not strike the right balance between landlords that the act does not strike the right balance between landlords and right balance between landlords and tenants, right balance between landlords and tenants, that's right balance between landlords and tenants, that's why right balance between landlords and tenants, that's why we've right balance between landlords and tenants, that's why we've announced tenants, that's why we've announced proposals tenants, that's why we've announced proposals to tenants, that's why we've announced proposals to strike tenants, that's why we've announced proposals to strike a tenants, that's why we've announced proposals to strike a new tenants, that's why we've announced proposals to strike a new balance proposals to strike a new balance between proposals to strike a new balance between providing proposals to strike a new balance between providing tenants proposals to strike a new balance between providing tenants with proposals to strike a new balance between providing tenants with more between providing tenants with more secure between providing tenants with more secure tenure between providing tenants with more secure tenure and between providing tenants with more secure tenure and allowing between providing tenants with more secure tenure and allowing them between providing tenants with more secure tenure and allowing them to secure tenure and allowing them to make secure tenure and allowing them to make their secure tenure and allowing them to make their House secure tenure and allowing them to make their House a secure tenure and allowing them to make their House a home secure tenure and allowing them to make their House a home while make their House a home while protecting make their House a home while protecting the make their House a home while protecting the rights make their House a home while protecting the rights and make their House a home while protecting the rights and interests protecting the rights and interests of protecting the rights and interests of landlords. protecting the rights and interests of landlords. <INTERRUPTION> of landlords. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. of landlords. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. If of landlords. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. If landlords of landlords. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. If landlords are of landlords. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. If landlords are not Supplementary. If landlords are not making Supplementary. If landlords are not making excessive Supplementary. If landlords are not making excessive profits, Supplementary. If landlords are not making excessive profits, then Supplementary. If landlords are not making excessive profits, then who making excessive profits, then who will making excessive profits, then who will pay making excessive profits, then who will pay the making excessive profits, then who will pay the costs making excessive profits, then who will pay the costs of making excessive profits, then who will pay the costs of the making excessive profits, then who will pay the costs of the new will pay the costs of the new standards will pay the costs of the new standards the will pay the costs of the new standards the minister will pay the costs of the new standards the minister intends will pay the costs of the new standards the minister intends to standards the minister intends to regulate standards the minister intends to regulate for standards the minister intends to regulate for the standards the minister intends to regulate for the upkeep standards the minister intends to regulate for the upkeep of standards the minister intends to regulate for the upkeep of rented regulate for the upkeep of rented regulate for the upkeep of rented regulate for the upkeep of rented homes? Well regulate for the upkeep of rented homes? Well I regulate for the upkeep of rented homes? Well I would regulate for the upkeep of rented homes? Well I would expect regulate for the upkeep of rented homes? Well I would expect that regulate for the upkeep of rented homes? Well I would expect that the homes? Well I would expect that the cost homes? Well I would expect that the cost of homes? Well I would expect that the cost of meeting homes? Well I would expect that the cost of meeting the homes? Well I would expect that the cost of meeting the new homes? Well I would expect that the cost of meeting the new standards, cost of meeting the new standards, like, cost of meeting the new standards, like, those cost of meeting the new standards, like, those that cost of meeting the new standards, like, those that are cost of meeting the new standards, like, those that are set cost of meeting the new standards, like, those that are set out cost of meeting the new standards, like, those that are set out in cost of meeting the new standards, like, those that are set out in the like, those that are set out in the draft like, those that are set out in the draft standards like, those that are set out in the draft standards for like, those that are set out in the draft standards for the like, those that are set out in the draft standards for the residential draft standards for the residential - draft standards for the residential - for draft standards for the residential - for the draft standards for the residential - for the Healthy draft standards for the residential - for the Healthy Homes draft standards for the residential - for the Healthy Homes Guarantee - for the Healthy Homes Guarantee Act, - for the Healthy Homes Guarantee Act, like, - for the Healthy Homes Guarantee Act, like, for - for the Healthy Homes Guarantee Act, like, for instance, - for the Healthy Homes Guarantee Act, like, for instance, putting - for the Healthy Homes Guarantee Act, like, for instance, putting in Act, like, for instance, putting in a Act, like, for instance, putting in a heat Act, like, for instance, putting in a heat pump Act, like, for instance, putting in a heat pump or Act, like, for instance, putting in a heat pump or some Act, like, for instance, putting in a heat pump or some insulation Act, like, for instance, putting in a heat pump or some insulation or a heat pump or some insulation or draft a heat pump or some insulation or draft stopping a heat pump or some insulation or draft stopping or a heat pump or some insulation or draft stopping or drainage, a heat pump or some insulation or draft stopping or drainage, will a heat pump or some insulation or draft stopping or drainage, will be draft stopping or drainage, will be dealt draft stopping or drainage, will be dealt with draft stopping or drainage, will be dealt with in draft stopping or drainage, will be dealt with in exactly draft stopping or drainage, will be dealt with in exactly the draft stopping or drainage, will be dealt with in exactly the same draft stopping or drainage, will be dealt with in exactly the same way dealt with in exactly the same way that dealt with in exactly the same way that landlords dealt with in exactly the same way that landlords do dealt with in exactly the same way that landlords do currently dealt with in exactly the same way that landlords do currently as dealt with in exactly the same way that landlords do currently as when that landlords do currently as when the that landlords do currently as when the House that landlords do currently as when the House needs that landlords do currently as when the House needs painting that landlords do currently as when the House needs painting or that landlords do currently as when the House needs painting or the that landlords do currently as when the House needs painting or the roof the House needs painting or the roof needs the House needs painting or the roof needs replacing the House needs painting or the roof needs replacing or the House needs painting or the roof needs replacing or the the House needs painting or the roof needs replacing or the piles the House needs painting or the roof needs replacing or the piles need needs replacing or the piles need fixing. needs replacing or the piles need fixing. So needs replacing or the piles need fixing. So is needs replacing or the piles need fixing. So is the needs replacing or the piles need fixing. So is the minister needs replacing or the piles need fixing. So is the minister saying fixing. So is the minister saying that fixing. So is the minister saying that landlords fixing. So is the minister saying that landlords are fixing. So is the minister saying that landlords are not fixing. So is the minister saying that landlords are not making that landlords are not making that landlords are not making that landlords are not making excessive profit, that landlords are not making excessive profit, tenants that landlords are not making excessive profit, tenants are that landlords are not making excessive profit, tenants are hurt excessive profit, tenants are hurt by excessive profit, tenants are hurt by steep excessive profit, tenants are hurt by steep rent excessive profit, tenants are hurt by steep rent increases excessive profit, tenants are hurt by steep rent increases and excessive profit, tenants are hurt by steep rent increases and now excessive profit, tenants are hurt by steep rent increases and now new by steep rent increases and now new costs by steep rent increases and now new costs will by steep rent increases and now new costs will be by steep rent increases and now new costs will be put by steep rent increases and now new costs will be put into by steep rent increases and now new costs will be put into the by steep rent increases and now new costs will be put into the renting costs will be put into the renting of costs will be put into the renting of property costs will be put into the renting of property and costs will be put into the renting of property and that costs will be put into the renting of property and that will costs will be put into the renting of property and that will somehow costs will be put into the renting of property and that will somehow be of property and that will somehow be paid of property and that will somehow be paid for of property and that will somehow be paid for by of property and that will somehow be paid for by magic? of property and that will somehow be paid for by magic? No, of property and that will somehow be paid for by magic? No, that's of property and that will somehow be paid for by magic? No, that's not of property and that will somehow be paid for by magic? No, that's not at paid for by magic? No, that's not at all paid for by magic? No, that's not at all what paid for by magic? No, that's not at all what I paid for by magic? No, that's not at all what I said. paid for by magic? No, that's not at all what I said. I paid for by magic? No, that's not at all what I said. I said paid for by magic? No, that's not at all what I said. I said that paid for by magic? No, that's not at all what I said. I said that in paid for by magic? No, that's not at all what I said. I said that in some all what I said. I said that in some cases, all what I said. I said that in some cases, in all what I said. I said that in some cases, in some all what I said. I said that in some cases, in some regional all what I said. I said that in some cases, in some regional housing cases, in some regional housing markets, cases, in some regional housing markets, low-income cases, in some regional housing markets, low-income renters cases, in some regional housing markets, low-income renters have markets, low-income renters have markets, low-income renters have markets, low-income renters have been hurt markets, low-income renters have been hurt in markets, low-income renters have been hurt in recent markets, low-income renters have been hurt in recent years markets, low-income renters have been hurt in recent years by markets, low-income renters have been hurt in recent years by rising been hurt in recent years by rising rents, been hurt in recent years by rising rents, primarily been hurt in recent years by rising rents, primarily caused been hurt in recent years by rising rents, primarily caused by been hurt in recent years by rising rents, primarily caused by a been hurt in recent years by rising rents, primarily caused by a lack been hurt in recent years by rising rents, primarily caused by a lack of rents, primarily caused by a lack of rents, primarily caused by a lack of rents, primarily caused by a lack of housing supply. rents, primarily caused by a lack of housing supply. But rents, primarily caused by a lack of housing supply. But I rents, primarily caused by a lack of housing supply. But I would rents, primarily caused by a lack of housing supply. But I would say rents, primarily caused by a lack of housing supply. But I would say that housing supply. But I would say that our housing supply. But I would say that our Government housing supply. But I would say that our Government is housing supply. But I would say that our Government is unapologetic housing supply. But I would say that our Government is unapologetic about our Government is unapologetic about our Government is unapologetic about our Government is unapologetic about the fact our Government is unapologetic about the fact that our Government is unapologetic about the fact that we our Government is unapologetic about the fact that we are our Government is unapologetic about the fact that we are modernising our Government is unapologetic about the fact that we are modernising the the fact that we are modernising the standards the fact that we are modernising the standards for the fact that we are modernising the standards for rental the fact that we are modernising the standards for rental properties standards for rental properties because standards for rental properties because in standards for rental properties because in our standards for rental properties because in our view standards for rental properties because in our view it's standards for rental properties because in our view it's long standards for rental properties because in our view it's long past because in our view it's long past time because in our view it's long past time that because in our view it's long past time that this because in our view it's long past time that this country because in our view it's long past time that this country was because in our view it's long past time that this country was sending time that this country was sending $40,000 time that this country was sending $40,000 kids time that this country was sending $40,000 kids to time that this country was sending $40,000 kids to -- time that this country was sending $40,000 kids to -- 40,000 time that this country was sending $40,000 kids to -- 40,000 kids time that this country was sending $40,000 kids to -- 40,000 kids to $40,000 kids to -- 40,000 kids to hospital $40,000 kids to -- 40,000 kids to hospital every $40,000 kids to -- 40,000 kids to hospital every year $40,000 kids to -- 40,000 kids to hospital every year with $40,000 kids to -- 40,000 kids to hospital every year with infectious hospital every year with infectious diseases, hospital every year with infectious diseases, mostly hospital every year with infectious diseases, mostly because hospital every year with infectious diseases, mostly because they're diseases, mostly because they're living diseases, mostly because they're living in diseases, mostly because they're living in rental diseases, mostly because they're living in rental properties diseases, mostly because they're living in rental properties that diseases, mostly because they're living in rental properties that are living in rental properties that are cold living in rental properties that are cold and living in rental properties that are cold and damp. living in rental properties that are cold and damp. <INTERRUPTION> cold and damp. <INTERRUPTION> Paul cold and damp. <INTERRUPTION> Paul Eagle. cold and damp. <INTERRUPTION> Paul Eagle. Sorry, cold and damp. <INTERRUPTION> Paul Eagle. Sorry, a cold and damp. <INTERRUPTION> Paul Eagle. Sorry, a point cold and damp. <INTERRUPTION> Paul Eagle. Sorry, a point of cold and damp. <INTERRUPTION> Paul Eagle. Sorry, a point of order, Paul Eagle. Sorry, a point of order, David Paul Eagle. Sorry, a point of order, David Seymour. Paul Eagle. Sorry, a point of order, David Seymour. My Paul Eagle. Sorry, a point of order, David Seymour. My question Paul Eagle. Sorry, a point of order, David Seymour. My question was Paul Eagle. Sorry, a point of order, David Seymour. My question was tight David Seymour. My question was tight and David Seymour. My question was tight and asked David Seymour. My question was tight and asked who David Seymour. My question was tight and asked who will David Seymour. My question was tight and asked who will pay David Seymour. My question was tight and asked who will pay the David Seymour. My question was tight and asked who will pay the cost David Seymour. My question was tight and asked who will pay the cost of and asked who will pay the cost of improvements and asked who will pay the cost of improvements to and asked who will pay the cost of improvements to homes? and asked who will pay the cost of improvements to homes? I and asked who will pay the cost of improvements to homes? I don't improvements to homes? I don't believe improvements to homes? I don't believe the improvements to homes? I don't believe the minister improvements to homes? I don't believe the minister even improvements to homes? I don't believe the minister even tried improvements to homes? I don't believe the minister even tried to believe the minister even tried to address believe the minister even tried to address that believe the minister even tried to address that basic believe the minister even tried to address that basic kernel believe the minister even tried to address that basic kernel of believe the minister even tried to address that basic kernel of who address that basic kernel of who pays address that basic kernel of who pays the address that basic kernel of who pays the cost. address that basic kernel of who pays the cost. I address that basic kernel of who pays the cost. I think address that basic kernel of who pays the cost. I think he address that basic kernel of who pays the cost. I think he did. address that basic kernel of who pays the cost. I think he did. Paul pays the cost. I think he did. Paul Eagle. pays the cost. I think he did. Paul Eagle. Supplementary, pays the cost. I think he did. Paul Eagle. Supplementary, what pays the cost. I think he did. Paul Eagle. Supplementary, what changes Eagle. Supplementary, what changes is Eagle. Supplementary, what changes is the Eagle. Supplementary, what changes is the Government Eagle. Supplementary, what changes is the Government proposing Eagle. Supplementary, what changes is the Government proposing to Eagle. Supplementary, what changes is the Government proposing to how is the Government proposing to how the is the Government proposing to how the residential is the Government proposing to how the residential property is the Government proposing to how the residential property market is the Government proposing to how the residential property market is the residential property market is regulated? the residential property market is regulated? Our the residential property market is regulated? Our tenancy the residential property market is regulated? Our tenancy laws the residential property market is regulated? Our tenancy laws are regulated? Our tenancy laws are antiquated regulated? Our tenancy laws are antiquated and regulated? Our tenancy laws are antiquated and don't regulated? Our tenancy laws are antiquated and don't reflect regulated? Our tenancy laws are antiquated and don't reflect the antiquated and don't reflect the fact antiquated and don't reflect the fact that antiquated and don't reflect the fact that renting antiquated and don't reflect the fact that renting is antiquated and don't reflect the fact that renting is now antiquated and don't reflect the fact that renting is now a antiquated and don't reflect the fact that renting is now a long-term fact that renting is now a long-term reality fact that renting is now a long-term reality for fact that renting is now a long-term reality for many, fact that renting is now a long-term reality for many, many fact that renting is now a long-term reality for many, many families. fact that renting is now a long-term reality for many, many families. The reality for many, many families. The Government reality for many, many families. The Government is reality for many, many families. The Government is proposing reality for many, many families. The Government is proposing changes reality for many, many families. The Government is proposing changes that Government is proposing changes that will Government is proposing changes that will strike Government is proposing changes that will strike a Government is proposing changes that will strike a fairer Government is proposing changes that will strike a fairer balance Government is proposing changes that will strike a fairer balance between will strike a fairer balance between providing will strike a fairer balance between providing tenants will strike a fairer balance between providing tenants with will strike a fairer balance between providing tenants with security will strike a fairer balance between providing tenants with security of providing tenants with security of tenure providing tenants with security of tenure and providing tenants with security of tenure and allowing providing tenants with security of tenure and allowing them providing tenants with security of tenure and allowing them to providing tenants with security of tenure and allowing them to make tenure and allowing them to make their tenure and allowing them to make their house tenure and allowing them to make their house a tenure and allowing them to make their house a home tenure and allowing them to make their house a home while tenure and allowing them to make their house a home while protecting their house a home while protecting the their house a home while protecting the rights their house a home while protecting the rights and their house a home while protecting the rights and interests their house a home while protecting the rights and interests of the rights and interests of landlords. the rights and interests of landlords. We the rights and interests of landlords. We know the rights and interests of landlords. We know that the rights and interests of landlords. We know that the the rights and interests of landlords. We know that the vast landlords. We know that the vast majority landlords. We know that the vast majority of landlords. We know that the vast majority of landlords landlords. We know that the vast majority of landlords take landlords. We know that the vast majority of landlords take good landlords. We know that the vast majority of landlords take good care majority of landlords take good care of majority of landlords take good care of their majority of landlords take good care of their properties majority of landlords take good care of their properties and majority of landlords take good care of their properties and treat majority of landlords take good care of their properties and treat their of their properties and treat their tenants of their properties and treat their tenants fairly. of their properties and treat their tenants fairly. Those of their properties and treat their tenants fairly. Those people of their properties and treat their tenants fairly. Those people will tenants fairly. Those people will see tenants fairly. Those people will see no tenants fairly. Those people will see no real tenants fairly. Those people will see no real change tenants fairly. Those people will see no real change from tenants fairly. Those people will see no real change from the see no real change from the Government's see no real change from the Government's reforms. see no real change from the Government's reforms. However, Government's reforms. However, the Government's reforms. However, Government's reforms. However, the current law Government's reforms. However, the current law is Government's reforms. However, the current law is so Government's reforms. However, the current law is so weak Government's reforms. However, the current law is so weak that Government's reforms. However, the current law is so weak that it current law is so weak that it permits current law is so weak that it permits a current law is so weak that it permits a small current law is so weak that it permits a small number current law is so weak that it permits a small number of permits a small number of exploitative permits a small number of exploitative people permits a small number of exploitative people to permits a small number of exploitative people to rent permits a small number of exploitative people to rent out exploitative people to rent out unhealthy, exploitative people to rent out unhealthy, dangerous exploitative people to rent out unhealthy, dangerous houses exploitative people to rent out unhealthy, dangerous houses and unhealthy, dangerous houses and unhealthy, dangerous houses and unhealthy, dangerous houses and charge exorbitant unhealthy, dangerous houses and charge exorbitant rents. unhealthy, dangerous houses and charge exorbitant rents. Our unhealthy, dangerous houses and charge exorbitant rents. Our reforms charge exorbitant rents. Our reforms will charge exorbitant rents. Our reforms will clean charge exorbitant rents. Our reforms will clean up charge exorbitant rents. Our reforms will clean up the charge exorbitant rents. Our reforms will clean up the rental charge exorbitant rents. Our reforms will clean up the rental market charge exorbitant rents. Our reforms will clean up the rental market and will clean up the rental market and that will clean up the rental market and that is will clean up the rental market and that is good will clean up the rental market and that is good for will clean up the rental market and that is good for the will clean up the rental market and that is good for the vast will clean up the rental market and that is good for the vast majority that is good for the vast majority of that is good for the vast majority of landlords that is good for the vast majority of landlords and that is good for the vast majority of landlords and their that is good for the vast majority of landlords and their tenants. of landlords and their tenants. Question of landlords and their tenants. Question No.2. Question Question No.2. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: Prime Minister: Does Prime Minister: Does she Prime Minister: Does she stand Prime Minister: Does she stand by Prime Minister: Does she stand by all Prime Minister: Does she stand by all her Does she stand by all her Government's Does she stand by all her Government's statements Does she stand by all her Government's statements and Does she stand by all her Government's statements and actions? Yes. Yes. Is Yes. Is it Yes. Is it her Yes. Is it her Government's Yes. Is it her Government's policy Yes. Is it her Government's policy to Yes. Is it her Government's policy to increase Yes. Is it her Government's policy to increase the Yes. Is it her Government's policy to increase the refugee Yes. Is it her Government's policy to increase the refugee quota Yes. 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On Sunday the Government announced another large-scale announced another large-scale development, announced another large-scale development, a announced another large-scale development, a transformational development, a transformational project development, a transformational project to development, a transformational project to build development, a transformational project to build 10,000 development, a transformational project to build 10,000 new development, a transformational project to build 10,000 new homes project to build 10,000 new homes for project to build 10,000 new homes for families project to build 10,000 new homes for families in project to build 10,000 new homes for families in Mt project to build 10,000 new homes for families in Mt Roskill. project to build 10,000 new homes for families in Mt Roskill. This for families in Mt Roskill. This development for families in Mt Roskill. This development will for families in Mt Roskill. This development will include for families in Mt Roskill. This development will include more for families in Mt Roskill. This development will include more than development will include more than 2,400 development will include more than 2,400 modest, development will include more than 2,400 modest, affordable development will include more than 2,400 modest, affordable KiwiBuild 2,400 modest, affordable KiwiBuild 2,400 modest, affordable KiwiBuild 2,400 modest, affordable KiwiBuild homes for 2,400 modest, affordable KiwiBuild homes for first 2,400 modest, affordable KiwiBuild homes for first home 2,400 modest, affordable KiwiBuild homes for first home buyers. 2,400 modest, affordable KiwiBuild homes for first home buyers. Around homes for first home buyers. Around 3,000 homes for first home buyers. Around 3,000 homes homes for first home buyers. Around 3,000 homes to homes for first home buyers. Around 3,000 homes to be homes for first home buyers. Around 3,000 homes to be sold homes for first home buyers. Around 3,000 homes to be sold on homes for first home buyers. Around 3,000 homes to be sold on the homes for first home buyers. Around 3,000 homes to be sold on the market 3,000 homes to be sold on the market and 3,000 homes to be sold on the market and more 3,000 homes to be sold on the market and more than 3,000 homes to be sold on the market and more than 3,000 3,000 homes to be sold on the market and more than 3,000 new 3,000 homes to be sold on the market and more than 3,000 new warm, 3,000 homes to be sold on the market and more than 3,000 new warm, dry and more than 3,000 new warm, dry state and more than 3,000 new warm, dry state houses. and more than 3,000 new warm, dry state houses. Building and more than 3,000 new warm, dry state houses. Building in and more than 3,000 new warm, dry state houses. Building in Roskill state houses. Building in Roskill South state houses. Building in Roskill South has state houses. Building in Roskill South has started state houses. Building in Roskill South has started already. state houses. Building in Roskill South has started already. In state houses. Building in Roskill South has started already. In stage South has started already. In stage 180 South has started already. In stage 180 new South has started already. In stage 180 new state South has started already. In stage 180 new state homes South has started already. In stage 180 new state homes will South has started already. In stage 180 new state homes will be South has started already. In stage 180 new state homes will be built 180 new state homes will be built with 180 new state homes will be built with the 180 new state homes will be built with the first 180 new state homes will be built with the first ready 180 new state homes will be built with the first ready to 180 new state homes will be built with the first ready to move 180 new state homes will be built with the first ready to move into with the first ready to move into next with the first ready to move into next year. with the first ready to move into next year. Stage with the first ready to move into next year. Stage two with the first ready to move into next year. Stage two will with the first ready to move into next year. Stage two will begin next year. Stage two will begin mid-next next year. Stage two will begin mid-next year next year. Stage two will begin mid-next year and next year. Stage two will begin mid-next year and we next year. Stage two will begin mid-next year and we will next year. Stage two will begin mid-next year and we will see next year. Stage two will begin mid-next year and we will see 90 mid-next year and we will see 90 worn mid-next year and we will see 90 worn out mid-next year and we will see 90 worn out old mid-next year and we will see 90 worn out old state mid-next year and we will see 90 worn out old state houses mid-next year and we will see 90 worn out old state houses replaced worn out old state houses replaced with worn out old state houses replaced with around worn out old state houses replaced with around 300 worn out old state houses replaced with around 300 new worn out old state houses replaced with around 300 new homes, worn out old state houses replaced with around 300 new homes, including with around 300 new homes, including 95... with around 300 new homes, including 95... Order! with around 300 new homes, including 95... Order! Thank with around 300 new homes, including 95... Order! Thank you. 95... Order! Thank you. Supplementary. 95... Order! Thank you. Supplementary. How 95... Order! Thank you. Supplementary. How will 95... Order! Thank you. Supplementary. How will the Supplementary. How will the Government Supplementary. How will the Government ensure Supplementary. How will the Government ensure that Supplementary. How will the Government ensure that local Government ensure that local residents Government ensure that local residents are Government ensure that local residents are able Government ensure that local residents are able to Government ensure that local residents are able to rent Government ensure that local residents are able to rent or Government ensure that local residents are able to rent or buy residents are able to rent or buy homes residents are able to rent or buy homes in residents are able to rent or buy homes in the residents are able to rent or buy homes in the completed residents are able to rent or buy homes in the completed Mt homes in the completed Mt Roskill homes in the completed Mt homes in the completed Mt Roskill development? I'm homes in the completed Mt Roskill development? I'm determined homes in the completed Mt Roskill development? I'm determined that homes in the completed Mt Roskill development? I'm determined that the development? I'm determined that the local development? I'm determined that the local community development? I'm determined that the local community benefits development? I'm determined that the local community benefits from development? I'm determined that the local community benefits from this local community benefits from this redevelopment local community benefits from this redevelopment and local community benefits from this redevelopment and are local community benefits from this redevelopment and are not local community benefits from this redevelopment and are not simply redevelopment and are not simply priced redevelopment and are not simply priced out redevelopment and are not simply priced out of redevelopment and are not simply priced out of the redevelopment and are not simply priced out of the new redevelopment and are not simply priced out of the new homes. redevelopment and are not simply priced out of the new homes. HLC redevelopment and are not simply priced out of the new homes. HLC are priced out of the new homes. HLC are working priced out of the new homes. HLC are working to priced out of the new homes. HLC are working to keep priced out of the new homes. HLC are working to keep the priced out of the new homes. HLC are working to keep the prices priced out of the new homes. HLC are working to keep the prices of working to keep the prices of KiwiBuild working to keep the prices of KiwiBuild homes working to keep the prices of KiwiBuild homes as working to keep the prices of KiwiBuild homes as low working to keep the prices of KiwiBuild homes as low as working to keep the prices of KiwiBuild homes as low as possible KiwiBuild homes as low as possible and KiwiBuild homes as low as possible and we're KiwiBuild homes as low as possible and we're working KiwiBuild homes as low as possible and we're working on KiwiBuild homes as low as possible and we're working on long-term KiwiBuild homes as low as possible and we're working on long-term rent and we're working on long-term rent and and we're working on long-term rent and shared and we're working on long-term rent and shared equity and we're working on long-term rent and shared equity options. and we're working on long-term rent and shared equity options. For and shared equity options. For KiwiBuild, and shared equity options. For KiwiBuild, we and shared equity options. For KiwiBuild, we will and shared equity options. For KiwiBuild, we will be and shared equity options. For KiwiBuild, we will be using and shared equity options. For KiwiBuild, we will be using priority KiwiBuild, we will be using priority ballots KiwiBuild, we will be using priority ballots to KiwiBuild, we will be using priority ballots to ensure KiwiBuild, we will be using priority ballots to ensure that KiwiBuild, we will be using priority ballots to ensure that local ballots to ensure that local residents ballots to ensure that local residents in ballots to ensure that local residents in Roskill ballots to ensure that local residents in Roskill have ballots to ensure that local residents in Roskill have the ballots to ensure that local residents in Roskill have the first residents in Roskill have the first shot residents in Roskill have the first shot at residents in Roskill have the first shot at owning residents in Roskill have the first shot at owning their residents in Roskill have the first shot at owning their own residents in Roskill have the first shot at owning their own home residents in Roskill have the first shot at owning their own home in shot at owning their own home in their shot at owning their own home in their own shot at owning their own home in their own community. shot at owning their own home in their own community. 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HLC and the KiwiBuild Unit are HLC and the KiwiBuild Unit are working HLC and the KiwiBuild Unit are working closely HLC and the KiwiBuild Unit are working closely with HLC and the KiwiBuild Unit are working closely with the HLC and the KiwiBuild Unit are working closely with the NZTA-led working closely with the NZTA-led light working closely with the NZTA-led light rail working closely with the NZTA-led light rail project working closely with the NZTA-led light rail project to working closely with the NZTA-led light rail project to ensure working closely with the NZTA-led light rail project to ensure that light rail project to ensure that they light rail project to ensure that they are light rail project to ensure that they are both light rail project to ensure that they are both fully light rail project to ensure that they are both fully integrated. they are both fully integrated. Integrating they are both fully integrated. Integrating transport they are both fully integrated. 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Another 12 properties are further 58 of mainly three bedroom further 58 of mainly three bedroom homes further 58 of mainly three bedroom homes will further 58 of mainly three bedroom homes will be further 58 of mainly three bedroom homes will be build further 58 of mainly three bedroom homes will be build at further 58 of mainly three bedroom homes will be build at McLennan. further 58 of mainly three bedroom homes will be build at McLennan. In homes will be build at McLennan. In the homes will be build at McLennan. In the coming homes will be build at McLennan. In the coming weeks homes will be build at McLennan. In the coming weeks I homes will be build at McLennan. In the coming weeks I will homes will be build at McLennan. 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They want to get alongside Zealand. They want to get alongside the Zealand. They want to get alongside the Government Zealand. They want to get alongside the Government with Zealand. They want to get alongside the Government with our Zealand. They want to get alongside the Government with our plan Zealand. They want to get alongside the Government with our plan to Zealand. They want to get alongside the Government with our plan to lift the Government with our plan to lift investment the Government with our plan to lift investment in the Government with our plan to lift investment in research the Government with our plan to lift investment in research and investment in research and investment in research and investment in research and development, to investment in research and development, to build investment in research and development, to build the development, to build the infrastructure development, to build the infrastructure that development, to build the infrastructure that will development, to build the infrastructure that will support infrastructure that will support them, infrastructure that will support them, to infrastructure that will support them, to get infrastructure that will support them, to get the infrastructure that will support them, to get the free-trade infrastructure that will support them, to get the free-trade deals them, to get the free-trade deals that them, to get the free-trade deals that those them, to get the free-trade deals that those exporters them, to get the free-trade deals that those exporters want. them, to get the free-trade deals that those exporters want. I them, to get the free-trade deals that those exporters want. I think that those exporters want. I think the that those exporters want. I think the member that those exporters want. I think the member need that those exporters want. I think the member need to that those exporters want. I think the member need to be that those exporters want. I think the member need to be more the member need to be more optimistic the member need to be more optimistic about the member need to be more optimistic about our the member need to be more optimistic about our exporters' optimistic about our exporters' optimistic about our exporters' optimistic about our exporters' prospects. Is optimistic about our exporters' prospects. Is he optimistic about our exporters' prospects. Is he concerned optimistic about our exporters' prospects. Is he concerned that optimistic about our exporters' prospects. Is he concerned that the prospects. Is he concerned that the Provincial prospects. Is he concerned that the Provincial Growth prospects. Is he concerned that the Provincial Growth Fund, prospects. Is he concerned that the Provincial Growth Fund, we prospects. Is he concerned that the Provincial Growth Fund, we he prospects. 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As somebody who grew up in South Dunedin, I can tell you up in South Dunedin, I can tell you that up in South Dunedin, I can tell you that this up in South Dunedin, I can tell you that this Government up in South Dunedin, I can tell you that this Government has up in South Dunedin, I can tell you that this Government has got up in South Dunedin, I can tell you that this Government has got a that this Government has got a laser-like that this Government has got a laser-like focus that this Government has got a laser-like focus on that this Government has got a laser-like focus on all that this Government has got a laser-like focus on all of that this Government has got a laser-like focus on all of the laser-like focus on all of the regions laser-like focus on all of the regions of laser-like focus on all of the regions of New laser-like focus on all of the regions of New Zealand. laser-like focus on all of the regions of New Zealand. Indeed, laser-like focus on all of the regions of New Zealand. Indeed, Mr regions of New Zealand. Indeed, Mr Shane regions of New Zealand. Indeed, Mr Shane Jones, regions of New Zealand. Indeed, Mr Shane Jones, the regions of New Zealand. 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No. No. Was No. Was Derek No. Was Derek Handily No. Was Derek Handily offered No. Was Derek Handily offered the No. Was Derek Handily offered the appointment? No. Was Derek Handily offered the appointment? I No. Was Derek Handily offered the appointment? I don't No. Was Derek Handily offered the appointment? I don't believe No. Was Derek Handily offered the appointment? I don't believe it No. Was Derek Handily offered the appointment? I don't believe it was appointment? I don't believe it was in appointment? I don't believe it was in the appointment? I don't believe it was in the interests appointment? I don't believe it was in the interests of appointment? I don't believe it was in the interests of natural appointment? I don't believe it was in the interests of natural justice in the interests of natural justice or in the interests of natural justice or public in the interests of natural justice or public interest in the interests of natural justice or public interest to in the interests of natural justice or public interest to comment in the interests of natural justice or public interest to comment on in the interests of natural justice or public interest to comment on the or public interest to comment on the process or public interest to comment on the process while or public interest to comment on the process while it or public interest to comment on the process while it is or public interest to comment on the process while it is still or public interest to comment on the process while it is still a or public interest to comment on the process while it is still a live process while it is still a live process. process while it is still a live process. Was process while it is still a live process. 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As I indicated in my previous supplementary in my previous supplementary question in my previous supplementary question and in my previous supplementary question and answer, in my previous supplementary question and answer, while in my previous supplementary question and answer, while it in my previous supplementary question and answer, while it is in my previous supplementary question and answer, while it is a question and answer, while it is a live question and answer, while it is a live process, question and answer, while it is a live process, I question and answer, while it is a live process, I don't question and answer, while it is a live process, I don't believe question and answer, while it is a live process, I don't believe it question and answer, while it is a live process, I don't believe it is live process, I don't believe it is in live process, I don't believe it is in the live process, I don't believe it is in the interests live process, I don't believe it is in the interests of live process, I don't believe it is in the interests of natural live process, I don't believe it is in the interests of natural justice in the interests of natural justice or in the interests of natural justice or the in the interests of natural justice or the public in the interests of natural justice or the public interest in the interests of natural justice or the public interest to in the interests of natural justice or the public interest to comment or the public interest to comment further. or the public interest to comment further. 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Are there further undisclosed emails through former undisclosed emails through former minister undisclosed emails through former minister Clare undisclosed emails through former minister Clare Curran's undisclosed emails through former minister Clare Curran's private minister Clare Curran's private Gmail minister Clare Curran's private Gmail account minister Clare Curran's private Gmail account in minister Clare Curran's private Gmail account in respect minister Clare Curran's private Gmail account in respect of minister Clare Curran's private Gmail account in respect of the Gmail account in respect of the appointment Gmail account in respect of the appointment of Gmail account in respect of the appointment of the Gmail account in respect of the appointment of the Government's appointment of the Government's chief appointment of the Government's chief technology appointment of the Government's chief technology officer. appointment of the Government's chief technology officer. 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Has emails to those already disclosed will be identified. Has the emails to those already disclosed will be identified. Has the minister will be identified. Has the minister directly will be identified. Has the minister directly asked will be identified. Has the minister directly asked former will be identified. Has the minister directly asked former Minister will be identified. Has the minister directly asked former Minister Clare directly asked former Minister Clare Curran directly asked former Minister Clare Curran whether directly asked former Minister Clare Curran whether there directly asked former Minister Clare Curran whether there are directly asked former Minister Clare Curran whether there are further Curran whether there are further undisclosed Curran whether there are further undisclosed emails Curran whether there are further undisclosed emails through Curran whether there are further undisclosed emails through her undisclosed emails through her private undisclosed emails through her private G-mail undisclosed emails through her private G-mail account undisclosed emails through her private G-mail account in undisclosed emails through her private G-mail account in regard undisclosed emails through her private G-mail account in regard to private G-mail account in regard to the private G-mail account in regard to the appointment private G-mail account in regard to the appointment of private G-mail account in regard to the appointment of the private G-mail account in regard to the appointment of the Government's the appointment of the Government's Chief the appointment of the Government's Chief Technology the appointment of the Government's Chief Technology Officer? the appointment of the Government's Chief Technology Officer? Mr Chief Technology Officer? Mr Speaker, Chief Technology Officer? Mr Speaker, I Chief Technology Officer? Mr Speaker, I have Chief Technology Officer? Mr Speaker, I have not Chief Technology Officer? Mr Speaker, I have not personally Chief Technology Officer? Mr Speaker, I have not personally had Speaker, I have not personally had that Speaker, I have not personally had that conversation. Speaker, I have not personally had that conversation. But Speaker, I have not personally had that conversation. But I Speaker, I have not personally had that conversation. But I do that conversation. But I do understand that conversation. But I do understand that that conversation. But I do understand that conversation that conversation. But I do understand that conversation has understand that conversation has been understand that conversation has been held understand that conversation has been held within understand that conversation has been held within the understand that conversation has been held within the Government. understand that conversation has been held within the Government. Who been held within the Government. Who has been held within the Government. Who has specifically been held within the Government. Who has specifically had been held within the Government. Who has specifically had the been held within the Government. Who has specifically had the discussion has specifically had the discussion with has specifically had the discussion with former has specifically had the discussion with former Minister has specifically had the discussion with former Minister Clare has specifically had the discussion with former Minister Clare Curran has specifically had the discussion with former Minister Clare Curran on with former Minister Clare Curran on what with former Minister Clare Curran on what private with former Minister Clare Curran on what private emails with former Minister Clare Curran on what private emails exist with former Minister Clare Curran on what private emails exist in with former Minister Clare Curran on what private emails exist in respect what private emails exist in respect of what private emails exist in respect of the what private emails exist in respect of the appointment what private emails exist in respect of the appointment of what private emails exist in respect of the appointment of the of the appointment of the Government's of the appointment of the Government's Chief of the appointment of the Government's Chief Technology Government's Chief Technology Officer? Government's Chief Technology Officer? Mr Government's Chief Technology Officer? Mr Speaker, Government's Chief Technology Officer? Mr Speaker, I Government's Chief Technology Officer? Mr Speaker, I think Government's Chief Technology Officer? Mr Speaker, I think it's Officer? Mr Speaker, I think it's been Officer? Mr Speaker, I think it's been held Officer? Mr Speaker, I think it's been held relatively Officer? Mr Speaker, I think it's been held relatively publicly, Officer? Mr Speaker, I think it's been held relatively publicly, but Officer? 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Does the minister accept that the process of accept that the process of appointment accept that the process of appointment has accept that the process of appointment has been accept that the process of appointment has been so accept that the process of appointment has been so tainted accept that the process of appointment has been so tainted by appointment has been so tainted by the appointment has been so tainted by the secret appointment has been so tainted by the secret emails appointment has been so tainted by the secret emails and appointment has been so tainted by the secret emails and meetings appointment has been so tainted by the secret emails and meetings by the secret emails and meetings by the the secret emails and meetings by the former the secret emails and meetings by the former minister the secret emails and meetings by the former minister and the secret emails and meetings by the former minister and with the secret emails and meetings by the former minister and with the the former minister and with the comments the former minister and with the comments from the former minister and with the comments from the the former minister and with the comments from the industry the former minister and with the comments from the industry that the former minister and with the comments from the industry that the comments from the industry that the appointment comments from the industry that the appointment is comments from the industry that the appointment is now comments from the industry that the appointment is now so comments from the industry that the appointment is now so tainted comments from the industry that the appointment is now so tainted that appointment is now so tainted that it appointment is now so tainted that it cannot appointment is now so tainted that it cannot have appointment is now so tainted that it cannot have credibility appointment is now so tainted that it cannot have credibility that appointment is now so tainted that it cannot have credibility that the it cannot have credibility that the Government it cannot have credibility that the Government needs it cannot have credibility that the Government needs to it cannot have credibility that the Government needs to start it cannot have credibility that the Government needs to start the Government needs to start the appointment Government needs to start the appointment process Government needs to start the appointment process all Government needs to start the appointment process all over Government needs to start the appointment process all over again appointment process all over again and appointment process all over again and try appointment process all over again and try to appointment process all over again and try to get appointment process all over again and try to get it appointment process all over again and try to get it right appointment process all over again and try to get it right third appointment process all over again and try to get it right third time and try to get it right third time around? and try to get it right third time around? Mr and try to get it right third time around? Mr Speaker, and try to get it right third time around? Mr Speaker, consistent and try to get it right third time around? Mr Speaker, consistent with around? Mr Speaker, consistent with my around? Mr Speaker, consistent with my earlier around? Mr Speaker, consistent with my earlier supplementary around? Mr Speaker, consistent with my earlier supplementary question my earlier supplementary question and my earlier supplementary question and answers my earlier supplementary question and answers I my earlier supplementary question and answers I don't my earlier supplementary question and answers I don't think my earlier supplementary question and answers I don't think it my earlier supplementary question and answers I don't think it niece and answers I don't think it niece the and answers I don't think it niece the public and answers I don't think it niece the public interest and answers I don't think it niece the public interest to and answers I don't think it niece the public interest to comment and answers I don't think it niece the public interest to comment on the public interest to comment on that the public interest to comment on that matter the public interest to comment on that matter while the public interest to comment on that matter while there the public interest to comment on that matter while there is the public interest to comment on that matter while there is a the public interest to comment on that matter while there is a live that matter while there is a live process. that matter while there is a live process. <INTERRUPTION> process. <INTERRUPTION> Question process. <INTERRUPTION> Question No. process. <INTERRUPTION> Question No. 9. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Associate My question is to the Associate Minister My question is to the Associate Minister of My question is to the Associate Minister of Education: Associate Minister of Education: What Associate Minister of Education: What actions, Associate Minister of Education: What actions, if Associate Minister of Education: What actions, if any, What actions, if any, has What actions, if any, has the What actions, if any, has the Government What actions, if any, has the Government taken has the Government taken to has the Government taken to provide has the Government taken to provide more has the Government taken to provide more options has the Government taken to provide more options for has the Government taken to provide more options for children to provide more options for children and to provide more options for children and young to provide more options for children and young people and young people with and young people with complex and young people with complex and and young people with complex and challenging with complex and challenging learning-support with complex and challenging learning-support needs learning-support needs and learning-support needs and their learning-support needs and their families? Mr Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker. The Mr Speaker. The Hon Mr Speaker. The Hon Tracey Mr Speaker. The Hon Tracey Martin. Mr Speaker. The Hon Tracey Martin. Thank Mr Speaker. The Hon Tracey Martin. Thank you. Mr Speaker. The Hon Tracey Martin. Thank you. I Mr Speaker. The Hon Tracey Martin. Thank you. I thought Mr Speaker. The Hon Tracey Martin. Thank you. I thought it Mr Speaker. The Hon Tracey Martin. Thank you. I thought it was Mr Speaker. The Hon Tracey Martin. Thank you. I thought it was Tracey Thank you. I thought it was Tracey Nelson, Thank you. I thought it was Tracey Nelson, I Thank you. I thought it was Tracey Nelson, I don't Thank you. I thought it was Tracey Nelson, I don't know Thank you. I thought it was Tracey Nelson, I don't know why. Thank you. I thought it was Tracey Nelson, I don't know why. Other Nelson, I don't know why. Other speakers Nelson, I don't know why. Other speakers have Nelson, I don't know why. Other speakers have called Nelson, I don't know why. Other speakers have called me Nelson, I don't know why. Other speakers have called me other Nelson, I don't know why. Other speakers have called me other things speakers have called me other things too. speakers have called me other things too. <INTERRUPTION> too. <INTERRUPTION> On too. <INTERRUPTION> On 23 too. <INTERRUPTION> On 23 August, too. <INTERRUPTION> On 23 August, the too. <INTERRUPTION> On 23 August, the Minister too. <INTERRUPTION> On 23 August, the Minister of On 23 August, the Minister of Education On 23 August, the Minister of Education and On 23 August, the Minister of Education and I On 23 August, the Minister of Education and I announced On 23 August, the Minister of Education and I announced a On 23 August, the Minister of Education and I announced a new Education and I announced a new direct Education and I announced a new direct access Education and I announced a new direct access pathway Education and I announced a new direct access pathway for Education and I announced a new direct access pathway for students direct access pathway for students with direct access pathway for students with complex direct access pathway for students with complex learning direct access pathway for students with complex learning support direct access pathway for students with complex learning support needs with complex learning support needs to with complex learning support needs to attend with complex learning support needs to attend residential with complex learning support needs to attend residential schools. with complex learning support needs to attend residential schools. 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This will mean that the more children and will mean that the more children and young will mean that the more children and young people will mean that the more children and young people will will mean that the more children and young people will be will mean that the more children and young people will be able will mean that the more children and young people will be able to will mean that the more children and young people will be able to enrol young people will be able to enrol in young people will be able to enrol in Government-funded young people will be able to enrol in Government-funded places young people will be able to enrol in Government-funded places at young people will be able to enrol in Government-funded places at our in Government-funded places at our three in Government-funded places at our three residential in Government-funded places at our three residential special in Government-funded places at our three residential special schools, three residential special schools, halls three residential special schools, halls well, three residential special schools, halls well, Salisbury three residential special schools, halls well, Salisbury and halls well, Salisbury and westbridge. halls well, Salisbury and westbridge. 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How participate in and progress their learning. How does participate in and progress their learning. How does the participate in and progress their learning. How does the new participate in and progress their learning. How does the new direct learning. How does the new direct access learning. How does the new direct access pathway learning. How does the new direct access pathway make learning. How does the new direct access pathway make it learning. How does the new direct access pathway make it easier learning. How does the new direct access pathway make it easier for access pathway make it easier for children access pathway make it easier for children and access pathway make it easier for children and young access pathway make it easier for children and young people access pathway make it easier for children and young people to access pathway make it easier for children and young people to apply children and young people to apply to children and young people to apply to enrol children and young people to apply to enrol in children and young people to apply to enrol in residential children and young people to apply to enrol in residential schools? children and young people to apply to enrol in residential schools? Mr to enrol in residential schools? Mr Speaker, to enrol in residential schools? Mr Speaker, previously, to enrol in residential schools? Mr Speaker, previously, access to enrol in residential schools? Mr Speaker, previously, access to to enrol in residential schools? 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Has the PM asked Clare Curran whether there are more emails whether there are more emails between whether there are more emails between her whether there are more emails between her and whether there are more emails between her and Derek whether there are more emails between her and Derek Handley? whether there are more emails between her and Derek Handley? Mr between her and Derek Handley? Mr Speaker, between her and Derek Handley? Mr Speaker, as between her and Derek Handley? Mr Speaker, as I between her and Derek Handley? Mr Speaker, as I believe between her and Derek Handley? Mr Speaker, as I believe I between her and Derek Handley? 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Has the PM had any conversations, emails or texts with conversations, emails or texts with Derek conversations, emails or texts with Derek Handley? conversations, emails or texts with Derek Handley? Mr conversations, emails or texts with Derek Handley? Mr Speaker, conversations, emails or texts with Derek Handley? Mr Speaker, I conversations, emails or texts with Derek Handley? Mr Speaker, I have conversations, emails or texts with Derek Handley? Mr Speaker, I have in Derek Handley? Mr Speaker, I have in the Derek Handley? Mr Speaker, I have in the past Derek Handley? Mr Speaker, I have in the past had Derek Handley? Mr Speaker, I have in the past had correspondence Derek Handley? Mr Speaker, I have in the past had correspondence with Derek Handley? Mr Speaker, I have in the past had correspondence with Mr the past had correspondence with Mr Handley. the past had correspondence with Mr Handley. It's the past had correspondence with Mr Handley. 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After saying New Zealand is to serve affordable affordable is to serve affordable affordable electricity, is to serve affordable affordable electricity, will is to serve affordable affordable electricity, will she is to serve affordable affordable electricity, will she guarantee is to serve affordable affordable electricity, will she guarantee that electricity, will she guarantee that electricity electricity, will she guarantee that electricity price electricity, will she guarantee that electricity price rises electricity, will she guarantee that electricity price rises will electricity, will she guarantee that electricity price rises will be electricity price rises will be lower electricity price rises will be lower in electricity price rises will be lower in the electricity price rises will be lower in the next electricity price rises will be lower in the next three electricity price rises will be lower in the next three years electricity price rises will be lower in the next three years than lower in the next three years than they lower in the next three years than they have lower in the next three years than they have been lower in the next three years than they have been in lower in the next three years than they have been in the lower in the next three years than they have been in the last lower in the next three years than they have been in the last three they have been in the last three years? they have been in the last three years? 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Mr Speaker, this Government was proud yesterday to release the was proud yesterday to release the first was proud yesterday to release the first phase was proud yesterday to release the first phase of was proud yesterday to release the first phase of a was proud yesterday to release the first phase of a report was proud yesterday to release the first phase of a report in was proud yesterday to release the first phase of a report in a first phase of a report in a two-part first phase of a report in a two-part process. first phase of a report in a two-part process. This first phase of a report in a two-part process. This outlined first phase of a report in a two-part process. This outlined the two-part process. This outlined the issues two-part process. This outlined the issues that two-part process. This outlined the issues that we two-part process. This outlined the issues that we have two-part process. This outlined the issues that we have to two-part process. This outlined the issues that we have to deal two-part process. This outlined the issues that we have to deal with two-part process. 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That has been not matched by business or industry and matched by business or industry and that matched by business or industry and that is matched by business or industry and that is a matched by business or industry and that is a conversation matched by business or industry and that is a conversation that matched by business or industry and that is a conversation that we matched by business or industry and that is a conversation that we need that is a conversation that we need to that is a conversation that we need to have that is a conversation that we need to have from that is a conversation that we need to have from here. that is a conversation that we need to have from here. Question that is a conversation that we need to have from here. Question No. that is a conversation that we need to have from here. Question No. 12. INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: Mr INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, my INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, my question INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, my question is INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, my question is to INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, my question is to the INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, my question is to the Associate INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, my question is to the Associate Minister INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, my question is to the Associate Minister of is to the Associate Minister of Education. is to the Associate Minister of Education. The is to the Associate Minister of Education. The Hon is to the Associate Minister of Education. The Hon Kelvin is to the Associate Minister of Education. The Hon Kelvin Davis is to the Associate Minister of Education. The Hon Kelvin Davis and Education. The Hon Kelvin Davis and Education. The Hon Kelvin Davis and Education. The Hon Kelvin Davis and asks: What Education. The Hon Kelvin Davis and asks: What steps Education. The Hon Kelvin Davis and asks: What steps is Education. The Hon Kelvin Davis and asks: What steps is he Education. The Hon Kelvin Davis and asks: What steps is he taking Education. The Hon Kelvin Davis and asks: What steps is he taking to asks: What steps is he taking to promote asks: What steps is he taking to promote the asks: What steps is he taking to promote the modern asks: What steps is he taking to promote the modern language asks: What steps is he taking to promote the modern language in promote the modern language in schools promote the modern language in schools and promote the modern language in schools and move promote the modern language in schools and move towards promote the modern language in schools and move towards universally schools and move towards universally available schools and move towards universally available Te schools and move towards universally available Te Reo schools and move towards universally available Te Reo at schools and move towards universally available Te Reo at all schools and move towards universally available Te Reo at all year schools and move towards universally available Te Reo at all year levels? available Te Reo at all year levels? INTERPRETER: available Te Reo at all year levels? INTERPRETER: Thank available Te Reo at all year levels? INTERPRETER: Thank you, available Te Reo at all year levels? INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr available Te Reo at all year levels? INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. The INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. The Government INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. The Government has INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. The Government has presented INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. The Government has presented its The Government has presented its main The Government has presented its main aim The Government has presented its main aim which The Government has presented its main aim which is The Government has presented its main aim which is to The Government has presented its main aim which is to have The Government has presented its main aim which is to have Maori main aim which is to have Maori language main aim which is to have Maori language available main aim which is to have Maori language available up main aim which is to have Maori language available up to main aim which is to have Maori language available up to Year main aim which is to have Maori language available up to Year 10 main aim which is to have Maori language available up to Year 10 and language available up to Year 10 and to language available up to Year 10 and to make language available up to Year 10 and to make the language available up to Year 10 and to make the language language available up to Year 10 and to make the language available language available up to Year 10 and to make the language available for to make the language available for all to make the language available for all people to make the language available for all people of to make the language available for all people of New to make the language available for all people of New Zealand, to make the language available for all people of New Zealand, to to make the language available for all people of New Zealand, to learn all people of New Zealand, to learn the all people of New Zealand, to learn the language all people of New Zealand, to learn the language and all people of New Zealand, to learn the language and speak all people of New Zealand, to learn the language and speak the all people of New Zealand, to learn the language and speak the language the language and speak the language and the language and speak the language and to the language and speak the language and to realise the language and speak the language and to realise this the language and speak the language and to realise this we the language and speak the language and to realise this we are the language and speak the language and to realise this we are working and to realise this we are working with and to realise this we are working with the and to realise this we are working with the administration and to realise this we are working with the administration of and to realise this we are working with the administration of education with the administration of education and with the administration of education and to with the administration of education and to increase with the administration of education and to increase the with the administration of education and to increase the number with the administration of education and to increase the number of with the administration of education and to increase the number of Maori and to increase the number of Maori language and to increase the number of Maori language teachers. language teachers. INTERPRETER: language teachers. INTERPRETER: Supplementary language teachers. INTERPRETER: Supplementary question. INTERPRETER: Supplementary question. Does INTERPRETER: Supplementary question. Does he INTERPRETER: Supplementary question. Does he agree INTERPRETER: Supplementary question. Does he agree with INTERPRETER: Supplementary question. Does he agree with the INTERPRETER: Supplementary question. Does he agree with the aim INTERPRETER: Supplementary question. Does he agree with the aim that INTERPRETER: Supplementary question. Does he agree with the aim that all Does he agree with the aim that all children Does he agree with the aim that all children should Does he agree with the aim that all children should be Does he agree with the aim that all children should be - Does he agree with the aim that all children should be - learn Does he agree with the aim that all children should be - learn the Does he agree with the aim that all children should be - learn the Maori children should be - learn the Maori language children should be - learn the Maori language compulsory? language compulsory? INTERPRETER: language compulsory? INTERPRETER: Mr language compulsory? INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, language compulsory? INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, yes, language compulsory? INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, yes, I INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, yes, I support INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, yes, I support the INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, yes, I support the notion INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, yes, I support the notion that INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, yes, I support the notion that all INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, yes, I support the notion that all children support the notion that all children should support the notion that all children should learn support the notion that all children should learn the support the notion that all children should learn the Maori support the notion that all children should learn the Maori language should learn the Maori language throughout should learn the Maori language throughout all should learn the Maori language throughout all schools should learn the Maori language throughout all schools and should learn the Maori language throughout all schools and to throughout all schools and to realise throughout all schools and to realise that throughout all schools and to realise that aim. throughout all schools and to realise that aim. We throughout all schools and to realise that aim. We are throughout all schools and to realise that aim. We are providing realise that aim. We are providing assistance realise that aim. We are providing assistance to realise that aim. We are providing assistance to schools realise that aim. We are providing assistance to schools and realise that aim. We are providing assistance to schools and education assistance to schools and education and assistance to schools and education and to assistance to schools and education and to increase assistance to schools and education and to increase the assistance to schools and education and to increase the number assistance to schools and education and to increase the number and and to increase the number and capacity and to increase the number and capacity of and to increase the number and capacity of Maori and to increase the number and capacity of Maori language and to increase the number and capacity of Maori language teachers. capacity of Maori language teachers. INTERPRETER: capacity of Maori language teachers. INTERPRETER: Will capacity of Maori language teachers. INTERPRETER: Will he capacity of Maori language teachers. INTERPRETER: Will he support capacity of Maori language teachers. INTERPRETER: Will he support the INTERPRETER: Will he support the idea INTERPRETER: Will he support the idea that INTERPRETER: Will he support the idea that we INTERPRETER: Will he support the idea that we provide INTERPRETER: Will he support the idea that we provide a INTERPRETER: Will he support the idea that we provide a process INTERPRETER: Will he support the idea that we provide a process to idea that we provide a process to provide idea that we provide a process to provide a idea that we provide a process to provide a Maori idea that we provide a process to provide a Maori compulsory idea that we provide a process to provide a Maori compulsory in provide a Maori compulsory in schools. schools. INTERPRETER: schools. INTERPRETER: According schools. INTERPRETER: According that schools. INTERPRETER: According that is schools. INTERPRETER: According that is up schools. INTERPRETER: According that is up to INTERPRETER: According that is up to the INTERPRETER: According that is up to the national INTERPRETER: According that is up to the national curriculum. INTERPRETER: According that is up to the national curriculum. It INTERPRETER: According that is up to the national curriculum. It is INTERPRETER: According that is up to the national curriculum. It is hoped the national curriculum. It is hoped that the national curriculum. It is hoped that the the national curriculum. It is hoped that the language the national curriculum. It is hoped that the language is the national curriculum. It is hoped that the language is nurtured the national curriculum. It is hoped that the language is nurtured and that the language is nurtured and developed that the language is nurtured and developed and that the language is nurtured and developed and that that the language is nurtured and developed and that the that the language is nurtured and developed and that the teachers developed and that the teachers become developed and that the teachers become more developed and that the teachers become more competent developed and that the teachers become more competent in developed and that the teachers become more competent in terms developed and that the teachers become more competent in terms of become more competent in terms of using become more competent in terms of using the become more competent in terms of using the Maori become more competent in terms of using the Maori language become more competent in terms of using the Maori language and become more competent in terms of using the Maori language and all using the Maori language and all classrooms using the Maori language and all classrooms and using the Maori language and all classrooms and schools. classrooms and schools. INTERPRETER: classrooms and schools. INTERPRETER: Will classrooms and schools. INTERPRETER: Will he classrooms and schools. INTERPRETER: Will he increase classrooms and schools. INTERPRETER: Will he increase the INTERPRETER: Will he increase the number INTERPRETER: Will he increase the number of INTERPRETER: Will he increase the number of scholarships INTERPRETER: Will he increase the number of scholarships for INTERPRETER: Will he increase the number of scholarships for Maori number of scholarships for Maori language number of scholarships for Maori language teachers? number of scholarships for Maori language teachers? New number of scholarships for Maori language teachers? New Maori language teachers? New Maori language language teachers? New Maori language teachers? language teachers? New Maori language teachers? And language teachers? New Maori language teachers? And to language teachers? New Maori language teachers? And to also language teachers? New Maori language teachers? And to also aim language teachers? And to also aim to language teachers? And to also aim to promote language teachers? And to also aim to promote more language teachers? And to also aim to promote more scholarships? to promote more scholarships? INTERPRETER: to promote more scholarships? INTERPRETER: Mr to promote more scholarships? INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, to promote more scholarships? INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, we to promote more scholarships? INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, we all INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, we all understand INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, we all understand that INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, we all understand that there INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, we all understand that there must INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, we all understand that there must be INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, we all understand that there must be more understand that there must be more Maori understand that there must be more Maori language understand that there must be more Maori language teachers understand that there must be more Maori language teachers and understand that there must be more Maori language teachers and Maori understand that there must be more Maori language teachers and Maori - Maori language teachers and Maori - capable Maori language teachers and Maori - capable Maori Maori language teachers and Maori - capable Maori schools Maori language teachers and Maori - capable Maori schools an Maori language teachers and Maori - capable Maori schools an also capable Maori schools an also mainstream capable Maori schools an also mainstream schools. capable Maori schools an also mainstream schools. That capable Maori schools an also mainstream schools. That the mainstream schools. That the Government mainstream schools. That the Government allocated mainstream schools. That the Government allocated 20 mainstream schools. That the Government allocated 20 million mainstream schools. 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However, for the Maori language to be taught in all schools. However, this in all schools. However, this Government in all schools. However, this Government is in all schools. However, this Government is looking in all schools. However, this Government is looking at in all schools. However, this Government is looking at ways in all schools. However, this Government is looking at ways to Government is looking at ways to increase Government is looking at ways to increase the Government is looking at ways to increase the number Government is looking at ways to increase the number of Government is looking at ways to increase the number of teachers, increase the number of teachers, Maori increase the number of teachers, Maori language increase the number of teachers, Maori language teachers increase the number of teachers, Maori language teachers and increase the number of teachers, Maori language teachers and we increase the number of teachers, Maori language teachers and we have Maori language teachers and we have much Maori language teachers and we have much work Maori language teachers and we have much work ahead Maori language teachers and we have much work ahead of Maori language teachers and we have much work ahead of us. much work ahead of us. INTERPRETER: much work ahead of us. INTERPRETER: Does much work ahead of us. INTERPRETER: Does he much work ahead of us. INTERPRETER: Does he promise much work ahead of us. INTERPRETER: Does he promise to much work ahead of us. INTERPRETER: Does he promise to - much work ahead of us. INTERPRETER: Does he promise to - to INTERPRETER: Does he promise to - to promise INTERPRETER: Does he promise to - to promise to INTERPRETER: Does he promise to - to promise to promote INTERPRETER: Does he promise to - to promise to promote Maori INTERPRETER: Does he promise to - to promise to promote Maori to INTERPRETER: Does he promise to - to promise to promote Maori to Maori promise to promote Maori to Maori institutions promise to promote Maori to Maori institutions to promise to promote Maori to Maori institutions to teach promise to promote Maori to Maori institutions to teach Maori institutions to teach Maori languages? languages? INTERPRETER: languages? INTERPRETER: Mr languages? INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, languages? INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, one languages? INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, one of languages? 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INTERPRETER: language teachers. increase language teachers. INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, language teachers. INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, does language teachers. INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, does he INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, does he wish INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, does he wish to INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, does he wish to come INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, does he wish to come to INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, does he wish to come to our INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, does he wish to come to our conference, wish to come to our conference, education wish to come to our conference, education conference, wish to come to our conference, education conference, to wish to come to our conference, education conference, to discuss education conference, to discuss this education conference, to discuss this matter? education conference, to discuss this matter? You're education conference, to discuss this matter? You're welcome. this matter? You're welcome. INTERPRETER: this matter? You're welcome. INTERPRETER: Yes, this matter? You're welcome. INTERPRETER: Yes, indeed, this matter? You're welcome. INTERPRETER: Yes, indeed, Mr INTERPRETER: Yes, indeed, Mr Speaker. INTERPRETER: Yes, indeed, Mr Speaker. We INTERPRETER: Yes, indeed, Mr Speaker. We must INTERPRETER: Yes, indeed, Mr Speaker. We must strive INTERPRETER: Yes, indeed, Mr Speaker. We must strive all INTERPRETER: Yes, indeed, Mr Speaker. We must strive all people Speaker. We must strive all people of Speaker. We must strive all people of New Speaker. We must strive all people of New Zealand Speaker. We must strive all people of New Zealand to Speaker. We must strive all people of New Zealand to share Speaker. We must strive all people of New Zealand to share their Speaker. We must strive all people of New Zealand to share their ideas of New Zealand to share their ideas for of New Zealand to share their ideas for the of New Zealand to share their ideas for the strategy of New Zealand to share their ideas for the strategy addressing of New Zealand to share their ideas for the strategy addressing the for the strategy addressing the Maori for the strategy addressing the Maori language for the strategy addressing the Maori language and for the strategy addressing the Maori language and one for the strategy addressing the Maori language and one of for the strategy addressing the Maori language and one of the for the strategy addressing the Maori language and one of the aims Maori language and one of the aims is Maori language and one of the aims is to Maori language and one of the aims is to encourage Maori language and one of the aims is to encourage all Maori language and one of the aims is to encourage all people Maori language and one of the aims is to encourage all people of Maori language and one of the aims is to encourage all people of New is to encourage all people of New Zealand is to encourage all people of New Zealand to is to encourage all people of New Zealand to speak is to encourage all people of New Zealand to speak the is to encourage all people of New Zealand to speak the Maori is to encourage all people of New Zealand to speak the Maori language Zealand to speak the Maori language before Zealand to speak the Maori language before the Zealand to speak the Maori language before the year Zealand to speak the Maori language before the year 2040 Zealand to speak the Maori language before the year 2040 and Zealand to speak the Maori language before the year 2040 and this before the year 2040 and this strategy before the year 2040 and this strategy is before the year 2040 and this strategy is being before the year 2040 and this strategy is being spoken before the year 2040 and this strategy is being spoken and strategy is being spoken and discussed strategy is being spoken and discussed on strategy is being spoken and discussed on all strategy is being spoken and discussed on all marae strategy is being spoken and discussed on all marae throughout discussed on all marae throughout the discussed on all marae throughout the nation discussed on all marae throughout the nation and discussed on all marae throughout the nation and we discussed on all marae throughout the nation and we wish discussed on all marae throughout the nation and we wish for discussed on all marae throughout the nation and we wish for the discussed on all marae throughout the nation and we wish for the Maori the nation and we wish for the Maori language the nation and we wish for the Maori language to the nation and we wish for the Maori language to be the nation and we wish for the Maori language to be promoted the nation and we wish for the Maori language to be promoted and the nation and we wish for the Maori language to be promoted and we the nation and we wish for the Maori language to be promoted and we want language to be promoted and we want to language to be promoted and we want to implement language to be promoted and we want to implement that language to be promoted and we want to implement that idea. language to be promoted and we want to implement that idea. Thank language to be promoted and we want to implement that idea. Thank you. to implement that idea. Thank you. INTERPRETER: to implement that idea. Thank you. INTERPRETER: My to implement that idea. Thank you. INTERPRETER: My question: to implement that idea. Thank you. INTERPRETER: My question: Is to implement that idea. Thank you. INTERPRETER: My question: Is there INTERPRETER: My question: Is there funding, INTERPRETER: My question: Is there funding, Minister, INTERPRETER: My question: Is there funding, Minister, to INTERPRETER: My question: Is there funding, Minister, to teach INTERPRETER: My question: Is there funding, Minister, to teach the funding, Minister, to teach the Maori funding, Minister, to teach the Maori language funding, Minister, to teach the Maori language - funding, Minister, to teach the Maori language - the funding, Minister, to teach the Maori language - the National funding, Minister, to teach the Maori language - the National Party Maori language - the National Party to Maori language - the National Party to pronounce Maori language - the National Party to pronounce words Maori language - the National Party to pronounce words properly? to pronounce words properly? INTERPRETER: to pronounce words properly? INTERPRETER: Mr to pronounce words properly? INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, to pronounce words properly? INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, please INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, please forgive INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, please forgive me INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, please forgive me - INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, please forgive me - there INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, please forgive me - there is INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, please forgive me - there is no INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, please forgive me - there is no funding INTERPRETER: Mr Speaker, please forgive me - there is no funding to forgive me - there is no funding to assist forgive me - there is no funding to assist them forgive me - there is no funding to assist them because forgive me - there is no funding to assist them because due forgive me - there is no funding to assist them because due to forgive me - there is no funding to assist them because due to the assist them because due to the complex assist them because due to the complex nature assist them because due to the complex nature and assist them because due to the complex nature and the assist them because due to the complex nature and the - assist them because due to the complex nature and the - that assist them because due to the complex nature and the - that side complex nature and the - that side of complex nature and the - that side of the complex nature and the - that side of the House complex nature and the - that side of the House is complex nature and the - that side of the House is not complex nature and the - that side of the House is not very complex nature and the - that side of the House is not very good complex nature and the - that side of the House is not very good at of the House is not very good at speaking of the House is not very good at speaking language. of the House is not very good at speaking language. <INTERRUPTION> speaking language. <INTERRUPTION> I speaking language. <INTERRUPTION> I think speaking language. <INTERRUPTION> I think we speaking language. <INTERRUPTION> I think we might speaking language. <INTERRUPTION> I think we might have speaking language. <INTERRUPTION> I think we might have had speaking language. <INTERRUPTION> I think we might have had a speaking language. <INTERRUPTION> I think we might have had a polite I think we might have had a polite interpretation I think we might have had a polite interpretation there. 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