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The Education Amendment Bill (No 2) will receive progression. The Education Amendment Bill (No 2) will receive its progression. The Education Amendment Bill (No 2) will receive its first Bill (No 2) will receive its first reading. Bill (No 2) will receive its first reading. 19 Bill (No 2) will receive its first reading. 19 September Bill (No 2) will receive its first reading. 19 September will Bill (No 2) will receive its first reading. 19 September will be Bill (No 2) will receive its first reading. 19 September will be a reading. 19 September will be a member's reading. 19 September will be a member's day. reading. 19 September will be a member's day. I reading. 19 September will be a member's day. I wonder reading. 19 September will be a member's day. I wonder if reading. 19 September will be a member's day. I wonder if the reading. 19 September will be a member's day. I wonder if the Leader member's day. I wonder if the Leader of member's day. 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Will the Labour-led Government support the Labour-led Government support the Employment Labour-led Government support the Employment Relations Labour-led Government support the Employment Relations Amendment Labour-led Government support the Employment Relations Amendment Bill Employment Relations Amendment Bill that Employment Relations Amendment Bill that was Employment Relations Amendment Bill that was approved Employment Relations Amendment Bill that was approved by Employment Relations Amendment Bill that was approved by Cabinet Employment Relations Amendment Bill that was approved by Cabinet as Employment Relations Amendment Bill that was approved by Cabinet as it that was approved by Cabinet as it is that was approved by Cabinet as it is currently that was approved by Cabinet as it is currently written? that was approved by Cabinet as it is currently written? On that was approved by Cabinet as it is currently written? 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Can he confirm the Employment Can he confirm the Employment Relations Can he confirm the Employment Relations Amendment Can he confirm the Employment Relations Amendment Bill Can he confirm the Employment Relations Amendment Bill has Can he confirm the Employment Relations Amendment Bill has already Relations Amendment Bill has already been Relations Amendment Bill has already been approved Relations Amendment Bill has already been approved by Relations Amendment Bill has already been approved by Cabinet? Relations Amendment Bill has already been approved by Cabinet? The Relations Amendment Bill has already been approved by Cabinet? The bill been approved by Cabinet? The bill was been approved by Cabinet? The bill was approved been approved by Cabinet? The bill was approved by been approved by Cabinet? The bill was approved by Cabinet been approved by Cabinet? 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: My question is to the Minister of Finance: Does My question is to the Minister of Finance: Does he My question is to the Minister of Finance: Does he agree My question is to the Minister of Finance: Does he agree with My question is to the Minister of Finance: Does he agree with the Finance: Does he agree with the comments Finance: Does he agree with the comments of Finance: Does he agree with the comments of the Finance: Does he agree with the comments of the Wellington Finance: Does he agree with the comments of the Wellington Chamber comments of the Wellington Chamber of comments of the Wellington Chamber of Commerce comments of the Wellington Chamber of Commerce Chief comments of the Wellington Chamber of Commerce Chief Executive of Commerce Chief Executive regarding of Commerce Chief Executive regarding business of Commerce Chief Executive regarding business confidence of Commerce Chief Executive regarding business confidence that regarding business confidence that "It's regarding business confidence that "It's the regarding business confidence that "It's the impact regarding business confidence that "It's the impact of regarding business confidence that "It's the impact of a regarding business confidence that "It's the impact of a number regarding business confidence that "It's the impact of a number of "It's the impact of a number of things "It's the impact of a number of things adding "It's the impact of a number of things adding to "It's the impact of a number of things adding to a "It's the impact of a number of things adding to a climate "It's the impact of a number of things adding to a climate of things adding to a climate of uncertainty, things adding to a climate of uncertainty, and things adding to a climate of uncertainty, and that's things adding to a climate of uncertainty, and that's what's things adding to a climate of uncertainty, and that's what's at uncertainty, and that's what's at the uncertainty, and that's what's at the heart uncertainty, and that's what's at the heart of uncertainty, and that's what's at the heart of the uncertainty, and that's what's at the heart of the lack uncertainty, and that's what's at the heart of the lack of the heart of the lack of confidence"? On On behalf On behalf of On behalf of the On behalf of the Minister On behalf of the Minister of On behalf of the Minister of Finance, On behalf of the Minister of Finance, I On behalf of the Minister of Finance, I agree On behalf of the Minister of Finance, I agree that On behalf of the Minister of Finance, I agree that there On behalf of the Minister of Finance, I agree that there are On behalf of the Minister of Finance, I agree that there are a Finance, I agree that there are a number Finance, I agree that there are a number of Finance, I agree that there are a number of things Finance, I agree that there are a number of things that Finance, I agree that there are a number of things that impact number of things that impact business number of things that impact business confidence number of things that impact business confidence readings, business confidence readings, including business confidence readings, including staffing business confidence readings, including staffing challenges, business confidence readings, including staffing challenges, the including staffing challenges, the international including staffing challenges, the international situation including staffing challenges, the international situation and including staffing challenges, the international situation and an international situation and an historic international situation and an historic lack international situation and an historic lack of international situation and an historic lack of investment international situation and an historic lack of investment in international situation and an historic lack of investment in the historic lack of investment in the nation's historic lack of investment in the nation's infrastructure historic lack of investment in the nation's infrastructure and historic lack of investment in the nation's infrastructure and I historic lack of investment in the nation's infrastructure and I note nation's infrastructure and I note that nation's infrastructure and I note that the nation's infrastructure and I note that the quote nation's infrastructure and I note that the quote contained nation's infrastructure and I note that the quote contained in nation's infrastructure and I note that the quote contained in the that the quote contained in the question that the quote contained in the question was that the quote contained in the question was more that the quote contained in the question was more than that the quote contained in the question was more than eight that the quote contained in the question was more than eight weeks question was more than eight weeks ago. question was more than eight weeks ago. The question was more than eight weeks ago. The Coalition question was more than eight weeks ago. The Coalition Government question was more than eight weeks ago. The Coalition Government is ago. The Coalition Government is ago. The Coalition Government is ago. The Coalition Government is working in ago. The Coalition Government is working in partnership ago. The Coalition Government is working in partnership with ago. The Coalition Government is working in partnership with business working in partnership with business on working in partnership with business on policies working in partnership with business on policies to working in partnership with business on policies to transition working in partnership with business on policies to transition the on policies to transition the economy on policies to transition the economy away on policies to transition the economy away from on policies to transition the economy away from growth on policies to transition the economy away from growth dependent economy away from growth dependent upon economy away from growth dependent upon property economy away from growth dependent upon property speculation economy away from growth dependent upon property speculation and upon property speculation and population upon property speculation and economy upon property speculation and population growth and upon property speculation and population growth and toward upon property speculation and population growth and toward more population growth and toward more productive, population growth and toward more productive, sustainable population growth and toward more productive, sustainable and productive, sustainable and inclusive productive, sustainable and inclusive growth productive, sustainable and inclusive growth that productive, sustainable and inclusive growth that benefits productive, sustainable and inclusive growth that benefits all inclusive growth that benefits all New inclusive growth that benefits all New Zealanders. inclusive growth that benefits all New Zealanders. Supplementary. inclusive growth that benefits all New Zealanders. Supplementary. Does New Zealanders. Supplementary. Does he New Zealanders. Supplementary. Does he agree New Zealanders. Supplementary. Does he agree that New Zealanders. Supplementary. Does he agree that uncertainty New Zealanders. Supplementary. Does he agree that uncertainty over he agree that uncertainty over he agree that uncertainty over he agree that uncertainty over issues like he agree that uncertainty over issues like employment he agree that uncertainty over issues like employment law he agree that uncertainty over issues like employment law reforms, issues like employment law reforms, potential issues like employment law reforms, potential new issues like employment law reforms, potential new taxes, issues like employment law reforms, potential new taxes, immigration potential new taxes, immigration potential new taxes, immigration potential new taxes, immigration changes and potential new taxes, immigration changes and more potential new taxes, immigration changes and more than potential new taxes, immigration changes and more than 150 potential new taxes, immigration changes and more than 150 working changes and more than 150 working groups changes and more than 150 working groups have changes and more than 150 working groups have a changes and more than 150 working groups have a real changes and more than 150 working groups have a real impact changes and more than 150 working groups have a real impact on changes and more than 150 working groups have a real impact on Kiwi groups have a real impact on Kiwi families groups have a real impact on Kiwi families because groups have a real impact on Kiwi families because it groups have a real impact on Kiwi families because it means groups have a real impact on Kiwi families because it means businesses families because it means businesses families because it means businesses families because it means businesses are less families because it means businesses are less likely families because it means businesses are less likely to families because it means businesses are less likely to invest families because it means businesses are less likely to invest in families because it means businesses are less likely to invest in higher are less likely to invest in higher new are less likely to invest in higher new workers? are less likely to invest in higher new workers? I are less likely to invest in higher new workers? I reject are less likely to invest in higher new workers? I reject several new workers? I reject several premises new workers? I reject several premises in new workers? I reject several premises in the new workers? I reject several premises in the member's new workers? I reject several premises in the member's question. premises in the member's question. Indeed! premises in the member's question. Indeed! Supplementary... premises in the member's question. Indeed! Supplementary... Is premises in the member's question. Indeed! Supplementary... Is that premises in the member's question. Indeed! Supplementary... Is that a Indeed! Supplementary... Is that a Muldoon Indeed! Supplementary... Is that a Muldoon impression, Indeed! Supplementary... Is that a Muldoon impression, is Indeed! Supplementary... Is that a Muldoon impression, is it? Muldoon impression, is it? <LAUGHTER> <LAUGHTER> How <LAUGHTER> How can <LAUGHTER> How can a <LAUGHTER> How can a business <LAUGHTER> How can a business have <LAUGHTER> How can a business have the How can a business have the confidence How can a business have the confidence to How can a business have the confidence to lift How can a business have the confidence to lift wages How can a business have the confidence to lift wages and How can a business have the confidence to lift wages and employ confidence to lift wages and employ new confidence to lift wages and employ new staff confidence to lift wages and employ new staff when confidence to lift wages and employ new staff when his confidence to lift wages and employ new staff when his own confidence to lift wages and employ new staff when his own Government new staff when his own Government new staff when his own Government new staff when his own Government isn't clear new staff when his own Government isn't clear about new staff when his own Government isn't clear about the new staff when his own Government isn't clear about the status new staff when his own Government isn't clear about the status of new staff when his own Government isn't clear about the status of its isn't clear about the status of its employment isn't clear about the status of its employment reforms? isn't clear about the status of its employment reforms? Mr isn't clear about the status of its employment reforms? Mr Speaker, isn't clear about the status of its employment reforms? Mr Speaker, the employment reforms? Mr Speaker, the Government employment reforms? Mr Speaker, the Government is employment reforms? Mr Speaker, the Government is clear. employment reforms? Mr Speaker, the Government is clear. I employment reforms? Mr Speaker, the Government is clear. I note, employment reforms? Mr Speaker, the Government is clear. I note, of Government is clear. I note, of course, Government is clear. I note, of course, that Government is clear. I note, of course, that the Government is clear. I note, of course, that the legislation the course, that the legislation the minister course, that the legislation the minister - course, that the legislation the minister - the course, that the legislation the minister - the former course, that the legislation the minister - the former minister minister - the former minister appears minister - the former minister appears to minister - the former minister appears to be minister - the former minister appears to be referring minister - the former minister appears to be referring to minister - the former minister appears to be referring to is minister - the former minister appears to be referring to is the appears to be referring to is the responsibility appears to be referring to is the responsibility of appears to be referring to is the responsibility of another appears to be referring to is the responsibility of another minister. responsibility of another minister. But responsibility of another minister. 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But a return to the conditions found But a return to the conditions found under But a return to the conditions found under the But a return to the conditions found under the previous But a return to the conditions found under the previous Labour-led under the previous Labour-led Government under the previous Labour-led Government when under the previous Labour-led Government when economic under the previous Labour-led Government when economic growth Government when economic growth averaged Government when economic growth averaged above Government when economic growth averaged above 3% Government when economic growth averaged above 3% over Government when economic growth averaged above 3% over the Government when economic growth averaged above 3% over the whole averaged above 3% over the whole nine averaged above 3% over the whole nine years averaged above 3% over the whole nine years might averaged above 3% over the whole nine years might not averaged above 3% over the whole nine years might not be averaged above 3% over the whole nine years might not be a averaged above 3% over the whole nine years might not be a bad averaged above 3% over the whole nine years might not be a bad thing. nine years might not be a bad thing. 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Does he think people are more Supplementary. Does he think people are more or Supplementary. Does he think people are more or less Supplementary. Does he think people are more or less likely Supplementary. Does he think people are more or less likely to Supplementary. Does he think people are more or less likely to invest Supplementary. Does he think people are more or less likely to invest in are more or less likely to invest in new are more or less likely to invest in new businesses, are more or less likely to invest in new businesses, create are more or less likely to invest in new businesses, create new are more or less likely to invest in new businesses, create new jobs are more or less likely to invest in new businesses, create new jobs or new businesses, create new jobs or opportunities new businesses, create new jobs or opportunities for new businesses, create new jobs or opportunities for Kiwi new businesses, create new jobs or opportunities for Kiwi workers new businesses, create new jobs or opportunities for Kiwi workers if opportunities for Kiwi workers if they opportunities for Kiwi workers if they are opportunities for Kiwi workers if they are uncertain opportunities for Kiwi workers if they are uncertain whether opportunities for Kiwi workers if they are uncertain whether or opportunities for Kiwi workers if they are uncertain whether or not they are uncertain whether or not they they are uncertain whether or not they have they are uncertain whether or not they have to they are uncertain whether or not they have to pay they are uncertain whether or not they have to pay a they are uncertain whether or not they have to pay a capital they are uncertain whether or not they have to pay a capital gains they are uncertain whether or not they have to pay a capital gains tax they have to pay a capital gains tax on they have to pay a capital gains tax on that they have to pay a capital gains tax on that investment? they have to pay a capital gains tax on that investment? Mr they have to pay a capital gains tax on that investment? Mr Speaker, they have to pay a capital gains tax on that investment? Mr Speaker, the on that investment? Mr Speaker, the member on that investment? Mr Speaker, the member refers, on that investment? Mr Speaker, the member refers, of on that investment? Mr Speaker, the member refers, of course, on that investment? Mr Speaker, the member refers, of course, to on that investment? 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I remind the member that the group was set up to review that the group was set up to review the that the group was set up to review the fairness, that the group was set up to review the fairness, balance that the group was set up to review the fairness, balance and that the group was set up to review the fairness, balance and structure the fairness, balance and structure of the fairness, balance and structure of the the fairness, balance and structure of the tax the fairness, balance and structure of the tax system the fairness, balance and structure of the tax system and I the fairness, balance and structure of the tax system and I note the fairness, balance and structure of the tax system and I note that of the tax system and I note that when of the tax system and I note that when there of the tax system and I note that when there is of the tax system and I note that when there is fairness, of the tax system and I note that when there is fairness, balance of the tax system and I note that when there is fairness, balance and when there is fairness, balance and the when there is fairness, balance and the right when there is fairness, balance and the right structure when there is fairness, balance and the right structure we when there is fairness, balance and the right structure we will when there is fairness, balance and the right structure we will have when there is fairness, balance and the right structure we will have a the right structure we will have a more the right structure we will have a more productive the right structure we will have a more productive economy the right structure we will have a more productive economy and the right structure we will have a more productive economy and when the right structure we will have a more productive economy and when the more productive economy and when the parameters more productive economy and when the parameters around more productive economy and when the parameters around that more productive economy and when the parameters around that are more productive economy and when the parameters around that are clear, parameters around that are clear, business parameters around that are clear, business will parameters around that are clear, business will have parameters around that are clear, business will have confidence. business will have confidence. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Did <INTERRUPTION> Did he? <INTERRUPTION> Did he? 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Does she believe that confidence and investment in the confidence and investment in the construction confidence and investment in the construction industry confidence and investment in the construction industry will confidence and investment in the construction industry will be construction industry will be construction industry will be construction industry will be increased if construction industry will be increased if businesses construction industry will be increased if businesses are construction industry will be increased if businesses are forced increased if businesses are forced to increased if businesses are forced to take increased if businesses are forced to take on increased if businesses are forced to take on employees increased if businesses are forced to take on employees they increased if businesses are forced to take on employees they know to take on employees they know nothing to take on employees they know nothing about? to take on employees they know nothing about? 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I believe that the confidence of our businesses in the confidence of our businesses in the building confidence of our businesses in the building and confidence of our businesses in the building and construction confidence of our businesses in the building and construction sector building and construction sector will building and construction sector will be building and construction sector will be increased building and construction sector will be increased once building and construction sector will be increased once we building and construction sector will be increased once we implement will be increased once we implement all will be increased once we implement all of will be increased once we implement all of the will be increased once we implement all of the work will be increased once we implement all of the work that will be increased once we implement all of the work that we will be increased once we implement all of the work that we are will be increased once we implement all of the work that we are doing will be increased once we implement all of the work that we are doing in all of the work that we are doing in all of the work that we are doing in all of the work that we are doing in building and all of the work that we are doing in building and construction. all of the work that we are doing in building and construction. Question building and construction. Question building and construction. Question No.5. INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: Thank INTERPRETER: Thank you, INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: Thank INTERPRETER: Thank you, INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. My INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. My question INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. My question is INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. My question is to INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. My question is to the INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. My question is to the Minister INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Social My question is to the Minister for Social Development: My question is to the Minister for Social Development: What My question is to the Minister for Social Development: What report Social Development: What report about Social Development: What report about benefit Social Development: What report about benefit outcomes Social Development: What report about benefit outcomes has Social Development: What report about benefit outcomes has she about benefit outcomes has she released, about benefit outcomes has she released, and about benefit outcomes has she released, and what about benefit outcomes has she released, and what is about benefit outcomes has she released, and what is the about benefit outcomes has she released, and what is the Government released, and what is the Government doing released, and what is the Government doing to released, and what is the Government doing to meet released, and what is the Government doing to meet the released, and what is the Government doing to meet the challenges released, and what is the Government doing to meet the challenges it doing to meet the challenges it identifies? 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We student allowances by $50. We introduced student allowances by $50. We introduced our student allowances by $50. We introduced our fees-free student allowances by $50. We introduced our fees-free policy student allowances by $50. We introduced our fees-free policy and introduced our fees-free policy and launched introduced our fees-free policy and launched an introduced our fees-free policy and launched an employment introduced our fees-free policy and launched an employment scheme introduced our fees-free policy and launched an employment scheme and launched an employment scheme and we've launched an employment scheme and we've invested launched an employment scheme and we've invested millions launched an employment scheme and we've invested millions in launched an employment scheme and we've invested millions in the we've invested millions in the regions we've invested millions in the regions through we've invested millions in the regions through the we've invested millions in the regions through the Provincial regions through the Provincial regions through the Provincial regions through the Provincial Growth Fund, regions through the Provincial Growth Fund, we regions through the Provincial Growth Fund, we launched regions through the Provincial Growth Fund, we launched the regions through the Provincial Growth Fund, we launched the mana Growth Fund, we launched the mana and Growth Fund, we launched the mana and Mihi Growth Fund, we launched the mana and Mihi Strength Growth Fund, we launched the mana and Mihi Strength in Growth Fund, we launched the mana and Mihi Strength in Work Growth Fund, we launched the mana and Mihi Strength in Work initiative and Mihi Strength in Work initiative and and Mihi Strength in Work initiative we've and Mihi Strength in Work initiative and continue to and Mihi Strength in Work initiative and continue to grow and Mihi Strength in Work initiative and continue to grow industry and continue to grow industry partnerships. and continue to grow industry partnerships. This and continue to grow industry partnerships. This Government and continue to grow industry partnerships. This Government knows partnerships. This Government knows partnerships. This Government knows partnerships. This Government knows that building partnerships. This Government knows that building meaningful partnerships. This Government knows that building meaningful and that building meaningful and sustainable that building meaningful and sustainable is that building meaningful and sustainable is taking that building meaningful and sustainable is taking steps that building meaningful and sustainable is taking steps now. that building meaningful and sustainable is taking steps now. New sustainable is taking steps now. New Zealand sustainable is taking steps now. New Zealand is on sustainable is taking steps now. New Zealand is on track. sustainable is taking steps now. New Zealand is on track. sustainable is taking steps now. 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Thor Are is important because as ministers for social because as ministers for social development, because as ministers for social development, alongside because as ministers for social development, alongside many because as ministers for social development, alongside many of because as ministers for social development, alongside many of my development, alongside many of my ministerial development, alongside many of my ministerial colleagues development, alongside many of my ministerial colleagues I development, alongside many of my ministerial colleagues I need development, alongside many of my ministerial colleagues I need to development, alongside many of my ministerial colleagues I need to be ministerial colleagues I need to be able ministerial colleagues I need to be able to ministerial colleagues I need to be able to make ministerial colleagues I need to be able to make evidence-based ministerial colleagues I need to be able to make evidence-based policy able to make evidence-based policy decisions able to make evidence-based policy decisions about able to make evidence-based policy decisions about how able to make evidence-based policy decisions about how best able to make evidence-based policy decisions about how best to able to make evidence-based policy decisions about how best to support decisions about how best to support people decisions about how best to support people into decisions about how best to support people into sustainable decisions about how best to support people into sustainable work. people into sustainable work. Beneficiaries people into sustainable work. Beneficiaries have people into sustainable work. Beneficiaries have been people into sustainable work. Beneficiaries have been a people into sustainable work. Beneficiaries have been a political Beneficiaries have been a political football Beneficiaries have been a political football for Beneficiaries have been a political football for too Beneficiaries have been a political football for too long Beneficiaries have been a political football for too long and Beneficiaries have been a political football for too long and the football for too long and the football for too long and the football for too long and the messages coming football for too long and the messages coming from football for too long and the messages coming from the football for too long and the messages coming from the previous football for too long and the Government was football for too long and the Government was - football for too long and the Government was - that football for too long and the Government was - that was football for too long and the Government was - that was kicking Government was - that was kicking them Government was - that was kicking them around... Government was - that was kicking them around... Order! Government was - that was kicking them around... Order! The Government was - that was kicking them around... Order! The member them around... Order! The member doesn't them around... Order! The member doesn't have them around... Order! The member doesn't have responsibility them around... Order! The member doesn't have responsibility for them around... Order! The member them that. <LAUGHTER> Question that. <LAUGHTER> Question No.6. Question Question No.6. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Workplace My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations and My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety: My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety: Is Workplace Relations and Safety: Is he Workplace Relations and Safety: Is he confident Workplace Relations and Safety: Is he confident that Workplace Relations and Safety: Is he confident that the Workplace Relations and Safety: Is he confident that the Employment he confident that the Employment Relations he confident that the Employment Relations Amendment he confident that the Employment Relations Amendment Bill he confident that the Employment Relations Amendment Bill that he confident that the Employment Relations Amendment Bill that has Relations Amendment Bill that has been Relations Amendment Bill that has been through Relations Amendment Bill that has been through Cabinet Relations Amendment Bill that has been through Cabinet and Relations Amendment Bill that has been through Cabinet and the Relations Amendment Bill that has been through Cabinet and the select been through Cabinet and the select committee been through Cabinet and the select committee process been through Cabinet and the select committee process has been through Cabinet and the select committee process has the been through Cabinet and the select committee process has the support been through Cabinet and the select committee process has the support of committee process has the support of all committee process has the support of all Government committee process has the support of all Government parties committee process has the support of all Government parties as committee process has the support of all Government parties as it committee process has the support of all Government parties as it is all Government parties as it is currently all Government parties as it is currently written? Yes. Yes. Will Yes. Will the Yes. Will the Labour-led Yes. Will the Labour-led Government Yes. Will the Labour-led Government consider Yes. Will the Labour-led Government consider changes Yes. Will the Labour-led Government consider changes to Yes. Will the Labour-led Government consider changes to its Yes. Will the Labour-led Government consider changes to its employment consider changes to its employment relations consider changes to its employment relations amendment consider changes to its employment relations amendment Bill consider changes to its employment relations amendment Bill that consider changes to its employment relations amendment Bill that allow relations amendment Bill that allow more relations amendment Bill that allow more businesses relations amendment Bill that allow more businesses to relations amendment Bill that allow more businesses to use relations amendment Bill that allow more businesses to use the relations amendment Bill that allow more businesses to use the 90-day more businesses to use the 90-day trial more businesses to use the 90-day trial period more businesses to use the 90-day trial period when more businesses to use the 90-day trial period when taking more businesses to use the 90-day trial period when taking on more businesses to use the 90-day trial period when taking on new trial period when taking on new staff? trial period when taking on new staff? Mr trial period when taking on new staff? Mr Speaker, trial period when taking on new staff? Mr Speaker, the trial period when taking on new staff? Mr Speaker, the member trial period when taking on new staff? Mr Speaker, the member has staff? Mr Speaker, the member has been staff? Mr Speaker, the member has been here staff? Mr Speaker, the member has been here long staff? Mr Speaker, the member has been here long enough staff? Mr Speaker, the member has been here long enough to staff? Mr Speaker, the member has been here long enough to know staff? Mr Speaker, the member has been here long enough to know how been here long enough to know how the been here long enough to know how the parliamentary been here long enough to know how the parliamentary process been here long enough to know how the parliamentary process work. been here long enough to know how the parliamentary process work. If the parliamentary process work. If the the parliamentary process work. If the Government the parliamentary process work. If the Government cease the parliamentary process work. If the Government cease an the parliamentary process work. If the Government cease an opportunity the Government cease an opportunity the Government cease an opportunity the Government cease an opportunity to improve the Government cease an opportunity to improve the the Government cease an opportunity to improve the bill the Government cease an opportunity to improve the bill at the Government cease an opportunity to improve the bill at the the Government cease an opportunity to improve the bill at the committee to improve the bill at the committee of to improve the bill at the committee of the to improve the bill at the committee of the whole, to improve the bill at the committee of the whole, it to improve the bill at the committee of the whole, it will to improve the bill at the committee of the whole, it will take to improve the bill at the committee of the whole, it will take it. to improve the bill at the committee of the whole, it will take it. Will of the whole, it will take it. Will the of the whole, it will take it. Will the Labour-led of the whole, it will take it. Will the Labour-led Government of the whole, it will take it. Will the Labour-led Government consider the Labour-led Government consider changes the Labour-led Government consider changes to the Labour-led Government consider changes to its the Labour-led Government consider changes to its Employment the Labour-led Government consider changes to its Employment Relations changes to its Employment Relations Amendment changes to its Employment Relations Amendment Bill changes to its Employment Relations Amendment Bill that changes to its Employment Relations Amendment Bill that will changes to its Employment Relations Amendment Bill that will allow Amendment Bill that will allow Amendment Bill that will allow Amendment Bill that will allow businesses to Amendment Bill that will allow businesses to opt Amendment Bill that will allow businesses to opt out Amendment Bill that will allow businesses to opt out of Amendment Bill that will allow businesses to opt out of agreements businesses to opt out of agreements businesses to opt out of agreements businesses to opt out of agreements and Multi-Employer businesses to opt out of agreements and Multi-Employer Collective and Multi-Employer Collective Agreements. and Multi-Employer Collective Agreements. The and Multi-Employer Collective Agreements. The member and Multi-Employer Collective Agreements. The member has and Multi-Employer Collective Agreements. The member has been and Multi-Employer Collective Agreements. The member has been in Agreements. The member has been in Agreements. The member has been in Agreements. The member has been in this House Agreements. The member has been in this House long Agreements. The member has been in this House long enough Agreements. The member has been in this House long enough to Agreements. The member has been in this House long enough to know Agreements. The member has been in this House long enough to know the this House long enough to know the parliamentary this House long enough to know the parliamentary process. this House long enough to know the parliamentary process. If parliamentary process. If the parliamentary process. If parliamentary process. If the Government cease parliamentary process. If the Government cease an parliamentary process. If the Government cease an opportunity parliamentary process. If the Government cease an opportunity to Government cease an opportunity to improve Government cease an opportunity to improve the Government cease an opportunity to improve the bill Government cease an opportunity to improve the bill at Government cease an opportunity to improve the bill at the Government cease an opportunity to improve the bill at the committee Government cease an opportunity to improve the bill at the committee of improve the bill at the committee of the improve the bill at the committee of the whole, improve the bill at the committee of the whole, it improve the bill at the committee of the whole, it will improve the bill at the committee of the whole, it will take improve the bill at the committee of the whole, it will take it. improve the bill at the committee of the whole, it will take it. Will improve the bill at the committee of the whole, it will take it. Will the the whole, it will take it. Will the Government the whole, it will take it. Will the Government consider the whole, it will take it. Will the Government consider - the whole, it will take it. Will the Government consider - the the whole, it will take it. Will the Government consider - the Labour-led Government consider - the Labour-led Government Government consider - the Labour-led Government consider, Government consider - the Labour-led Government consider, changes Government consider - the Labour-led Government consider, changes to Government consider - the Labour-led Government consider, changes to its Government consider, changes to its Employment Government consider, changes to its Government Government consider, changes to its Employment Relations Amendment Government consider, changes to its Employment Relations Amendment Bill Employment Relations Amendment Bill that Employment Relations Amendment Bill that prevent Employment Relations Amendment Bill that prevent union Employment Relations Amendment Bill that prevent union representatives that prevent union representatives from that prevent union representatives from accessing that prevent union representatives from accessing the that prevent union representatives from accessing the workplace that prevent union representatives from accessing the workplace of from accessing the workplace of a from accessing the workplace of from accessing the workplace of a business without from accessing the workplace of a business without the from accessing the workplace of a business without the permission from accessing the workplace of a business without the permission of business without the permission of the business without the permission of the business? business without the permission of the business? No business without the permission of the business? No such business without the permission of the business? No such change business without the permission of the business? No such change is the business? No such change is required the business? No such change is required under the business? No such change is required under the the business? No such change is required under the current the business? No such change is required under the current law the business? No such change is required under the current law and required under the current law and the required under the current law and the changes required under the current law and the changes proposed required under the current law and the changes proposed by required under the current law and the changes proposed by the required under the current law and the changes proposed by the bill. the changes proposed by the bill. There the changes proposed by the bill. There are the changes proposed by the bill. There are strict the changes proposed by the bill. There are strict requirements the changes proposed by the bill. There are strict requirements on There are strict requirements on There are strict requirements on There are strict requirements on access such There are strict requirements on access such as There are strict requirements on access such as a There are strict requirements on access such as a union There are strict requirements on access such as a union official There are strict requirements on access such as a union official has access such as a union official has to access such as a union official has to make access such as a union official has to make the access such as a union official has to make the employer access such as a union official has to make the employer aware access such as a union official has to make the employer aware that access such as a union official has to make the employer aware that they to make the employer aware that they are to make the employer aware that they are on to make the employer aware that they are on site. to make the employer aware that they are on site. They to make the employer aware that they are on site. They have to make the employer aware that they are on site. They have to to make the employer aware that they are on site. They have to adhere to make the employer aware that they are on site. They have to adhere to are on site. They have to adhere to any are on site. They have to adhere to any reasonable are on site. They have to adhere to any reasonable health are on site. They have to adhere to any reasonable health and are on site. They have to adhere to any reasonable health and safety any reasonable health and safety conditions any reasonable health and safety conditions and any reasonable health and safety conditions and they any reasonable health and safety conditions and they must any reasonable health and safety conditions and they must not any reasonable health and safety conditions and they must not in any reasonable health and safety conditions and they must not in any conditions and they must not in any way conditions and they must not in any way disrupt conditions and they must not in any way disrupt the conditions and they must not in any way disrupt the reasonable conditions and they must not in any way disrupt the reasonable activitys way disrupt the reasonable activitys of way disrupt the reasonable activitys of the way disrupt the reasonable activitys of the business. way disrupt the reasonable activitys of the business. Will way disrupt the reasonable activitys of the business. Will the Labour-led of the business. Will the Labour-led Government of the business. Will the Labour-led Government consider of the business. Will the Labour-led Government consider changes of the business. Will the Labour-led Government consider changes to of the business. Will the Labour-led Government consider changes to its Government consider changes to its Employment Government consider changes to its Employment Relations Government consider changes to its Employment Relations Amendment Government consider changes to its Employment Relations Amendment Bill Employment Relations Amendment Bill that Employment Relations Amendment Bill that prevent Employment Relations Amendment Bill that prevent union Employment Relations Amendment Bill that prevent union delegates Employment Relations Amendment Bill that prevent union delegates from that prevent union delegates from that prevent union delegates from that prevent union delegates from being able that prevent union delegates from being able to that prevent union delegates from being able to try that prevent union delegates from being able to try and that prevent union delegates from being able to try and recruit that prevent union delegates from being able to try and recruit new being able to try and recruit new members being able to try and recruit new members to being able to try and recruit new members to the being able to try and recruit new members to the union being able to try and recruit new members to the union whilst being able to try and recruit new members to the union whilst on being able to try and recruit new members to the union whilst on paid members to the union whilst on paid time members to the union whilst on paid time of members to the union whilst on paid time of the members to the union whilst on paid time of the employer? members to the union whilst on paid time of the employer? The members to the union whilst on paid time of the employer? The member members to the union whilst on paid time of the employer? The member has time of the employer? The member has been time of the employer? The member has been in time of the employer? The member has been in this time of the employer? The member has been in this House time of the employer? The member has been in this House for time of the employer? The member has been in this House for long time of the employer? The member has been in this House for long enough been in this House for long enough to been in this House for long enough to know been in this House for long enough to know the been in this House for long enough to know the parliamentary been in this House for long enough to know the parliamentary process. to know the parliamentary process. If to know the parliamentary process. If the to know the parliamentary process. If the Government to know the parliamentary process. If the Government sees to know the parliamentary process. If the Government sees an If the Government sees an opportunity If the Government sees an opportunity to If the Government sees an opportunity to improve If the Government sees an opportunity to improve the If the Government sees an opportunity to improve the bill If the Government sees an opportunity to improve the bill at opportunity to improve the bill at the opportunity to improve the bill at the committee opportunity to improve the bill at the committee of opportunity to improve the bill at the committee of the opportunity to improve the bill at the committee of the whole, opportunity to improve the bill at the committee of the whole, it opportunity to improve the bill at the committee of the whole, it will the committee of the whole, it will take the committee of the whole, it will take it. the committee of the whole, it will take it. Why the committee of the whole, it will take it. Why can the committee of the whole, it will take it. Why can the the committee of the whole, it will take it. Why can the minister the committee of the whole, it will take it. Why can the minister not take it. Why can the minister not give take it. Why can the minister not give a take it. Why can the minister not give a definitive take it. Why can the minister not give a definitive answer take it. Why can the minister not give a definitive answer about take it. Why can the minister not give a definitive answer about the give a definitive answer about the Labour-led give a definitive answer about the Labour-led Government's give a definitive answer about the Labour-led Government's position give a definitive answer about the Labour-led Government's position on Labour-led Government's position on Labour-led Government's position on Labour-led Government's position on industrial relations Labour-led Government's position on industrial relations changes Labour-led Government's position on industrial relations changes when industrial relations changes when they industrial relations changes when they are industrial relations changes when they are the industrial relations changes when they are the main industrial relations changes when they are the main reason industrial relations changes when they are the main reason behind they are the main reason behind plummeting they are the main reason behind plummeting business they are the main reason behind plummeting business confidence. they are the main reason behind plummeting business confidence. The plummeting business confidence. The bill plummeting business confidence. The bill went plummeting business confidence. The bill went through plummeting business confidence. The bill went through the plummeting business confidence. The bill went through the Cabinet bill went through the Cabinet process bill went through the Cabinet process almost bill went through the Cabinet process almost a bill went through the Cabinet process almost a year bill went through the Cabinet process almost a year ago bill went through the Cabinet process almost a year ago and bill went through the Cabinet process almost a year ago and has process almost a year ago and has been process almost a year ago and has been through process almost a year ago and has been through a process almost a year ago and has been through a select process almost a year ago and has been through a select committee process almost a year ago and has been through a select committee that been through a select committee that has been through a select committee that has a been through a select committee that has a majority been through a select committee that has a majority of been through a select committee that has a majority of Government been through a select committee that has a majority of Government MPs? has a majority of Government MPs? Well, has a majority of Government MPs? Well, this has a majority of Government MPs? Well, this bill has a majority of Government MPs? Well, this bill is has a majority of Government MPs? Well, this bill is one has a majority of Government MPs? Well, this bill is one that has a majority of Government MPs? Well, this bill is one that all Well, this bill is one that all parties Well, this bill is one that all parties of Well, this bill is one that all parties of the Well, this bill is one that all parties of the Government Well, this bill is one that all parties of the Government support parties of the Government support because parties of the Government support because it parties of the Government support because it is parties of the Government support because it is a parties of the Government support because it is a bill parties of the Government support because it is a bill that parties of the Government support because it is a bill that restores because it is a bill that restores balance because it is a bill that restores balance to because it is a bill that restores balance to the because it is a bill that restores balance to the industrial because it is a bill that restores balance to the industrial relations balance to the industrial relations framework balance to the industrial relations framework of balance to the industrial relations framework of New balance to the industrial relations framework of New Zealand. balance to the industrial relations framework of New Zealand. It framework of New Zealand. It restores framework of New Zealand. It restores rights framework of New Zealand. It restores rights that framework of New Zealand. It restores rights that were framework of New Zealand. It restores rights that were stripped restores rights that were stripped away restores rights that were stripped away from restores rights that were stripped away from workers restores rights that were stripped away from workers by restores rights that were stripped away from workers by the restores rights that were stripped away from workers by the previous away from workers by the previous Government away from workers by the previous Government and away from workers by the previous Government and it away from workers by the previous Government and it will away from workers by the previous Government and it will ensure away from workers by the previous Government and it will ensure that away from workers by the previous Government and it will ensure that a Government and it will ensure that a good Government and it will ensure that a good day's Government and it will ensure that a good day's work Government and it will ensure that a good day's work means Government and it will ensure that a good day's work means a Government and it will ensure that a good day's work means a decent Government and it will ensure that a good day's work means a decent day's good day's work means a decent day's pay. good day's work means a decent day's pay. That good day's work means a decent day's pay. That is good day's work means a decent day's pay. That is why good day's work means a decent day's pay. That is why this good day's work means a decent day's pay. That is why this Government pay. That is why this Government supports pay. That is why this Government supports it pay. That is why this Government supports it and pay. That is why this Government supports it and if pay. That is why this Government supports it and if there pay. That is why this Government supports it and if there is pay. That is why this Government supports it and if there is an supports it and if there is an opportunity supports it and if there is an opportunity to supports it and if there is an opportunity to make supports it and if there is an opportunity to make the supports it and if there is an opportunity to make the bill supports it and if there is an opportunity to make the bill even opportunity to make the bill even better opportunity to make the bill even better during opportunity to make the bill even better during the opportunity to make the bill even better during the process opportunity to make the bill even better during the process that opportunity to make the bill even better during the process that it better during the process that it goes better during the process that it goes through better during the process that it goes through in better during the process that it goes through in this better during the process that it goes through in this parliament, better during the process that it goes through in this parliament, we goes through in this parliament, we will goes through in this parliament, we will take goes through in this parliament, we will take it. goes through in this parliament, we will take it. <APPLAUSE> will take it. <APPLAUSE> <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Marja <INTERRUPTION> Marja Lubeck. Marja Lubeck. INTERPRETER: Marja Lubeck. INTERPRETER: I Marja Lubeck. INTERPRETER: I have Marja Lubeck. INTERPRETER: I have another INTERPRETER: I have another question. INTERPRETER: I have another question. What INTERPRETER: I have another question. What is INTERPRETER: I have another question. What is the INTERPRETER: I have another question. What is the intent INTERPRETER: I have another question. What is the intent of the question. What is the intent of the Employment question. What is the intent of the Employment Relations question. What is the intent of the Employment Relations Amendment question. What is the intent of the Employment Relations Amendment Bill? Employment Relations Amendment Bill? The Employment Relations Amendment Bill? The intent Employment Relations Amendment Bill? The intent of Employment Relations Amendment Bill? The intent of this Employment Relations Amendment Bill? The intent of this bill Employment Relations Amendment Bill? The intent of this bill is Employment Relations Amendment Bill? The intent of this bill is to The intent of this bill is to restore The intent of this bill is to restore balance The intent of this bill is to restore balance to The intent of this bill is to restore balance to the The intent of this bill is to restore balance to the employment restore balance to the employment relations restore balance to the employment relations framework restore balance to the employment relations framework and restore balance to the employment relations framework and make restore balance to the employment relations framework and make things relations framework and make things better relations framework and make things better for relations framework and make things better for working relations framework and make things better for working New relations framework and make things better for working New Zealanders. better for working New Zealanders. Question better for working New Zealanders. Question No.7. Question Question No.7. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Education: My question is to the Minister of Education: Has My question is to the Minister of Education: Has he My question is to the Minister of Education: Has he consulted My question is to the Minister of Education: Has he consulted with My question is to the Minister of Education: Has he consulted with the Education: Has he consulted with the ECE Education: Has he consulted with the ECE services Education: Has he consulted with the ECE services about Education: Has he consulted with the ECE services about the Education: Has he consulted with the ECE services about the impact Education: Has he consulted with the ECE services about the impact of Education: Has he consulted with the ECE services about the impact of the ECE services about the impact of the Government's ECE services about the impact of the Government's legislative ECE services about the impact of the Government's legislative changes ECE services about the impact of the Government's legislative changes on Government's legislative changes on them; Government's legislative changes on them; if Government's legislative changes on them; if so, Government's legislative changes on them; if so, what Government's legislative changes on them; if so, what concerns, Government's legislative changes on them; if so, what concerns, if Government's legislative changes on them; if so, what concerns, if any, them; if so, what concerns, if any, have them; if so, what concerns, if any, have they them; if so, what concerns, if any, have they raised? I I meet I meet regularly I meet regularly with I meet regularly with the I meet regularly with the early I meet regularly with the early childhood I meet regularly with the early childhood education I meet regularly with the early childhood education sector I meet regularly with the early childhood education sector and I meet regularly with the early childhood education sector and their childhood education sector and their representatives childhood education sector and their representatives to childhood education sector and their representatives to discuss childhood education sector and their representatives to discuss pressing representatives to discuss pressing issues representatives to discuss pressing issues with representatives to discuss pressing issues with the representatives to discuss pressing issues with the sector representatives to discuss pressing issues with the sector as representatives to discuss pressing issues with the sector as well representatives to discuss pressing issues with the sector as well as issues with the sector as well as any issues with the sector as well as any concerns issues with the sector as well as any concerns that issues with the sector as well as any concerns that they issues with the sector as well as any concerns that they may issues with the sector as well as any concerns that they may wish issues with the sector as well as any concerns that they may wish to any concerns that they may wish to raise. any concerns that they may wish to raise. I any concerns that they may wish to raise. I tender any concerns that they may wish to raise. I tender the any concerns that they may wish to raise. I tender the early any concerns that they may wish to raise. I tender the early childhood raise. I tender the early childhood council's raise. I tender the early childhood council's conference raise. I tender the early childhood council's conference in raise. I tender the early childhood council's conference in May, raise. I tender the early childhood council's conference in May, I raise. I tender the early childhood council's conference in May, I met council's conference in May, I met with council's conference in May, I met with the council's conference in May, I met with the early council's conference in May, I met with the early childhood council's conference in May, I met with the early childhood advisory with the early childhood advisory committee with the early childhood advisory committee in with the early childhood advisory committee in December with the early childhood advisory committee in December and with the early childhood advisory committee in December and June with the early childhood advisory committee in December and June and committee in December and June and just committee in December and June and just over committee in December and June and just over a committee in December and June and just over a week committee in December and June and just over a week ago committee in December and June and just over a week ago I committee in December and June and just over a week ago I met committee in December and June and just over a week ago I met with committee in December and June and just over a week ago I met with the just over a week ago I met with the early just over a week ago I met with the early childhood just over a week ago I met with the early childhood council just over a week ago I met with the early childhood council on just over a week ago I met with the early childhood council on 27 early childhood council on 27 August. early childhood council on 27 August. These early childhood council on 27 August. These were early childhood council on 27 August. These were all early childhood council on 27 August. These were all opportunities August. These were all opportunities for August. These were all opportunities for the August. These were all opportunities for the sector August. These were all opportunities for the sector to August. These were all opportunities for the sector to raise August. These were all opportunities for the sector to raise any August. These were all opportunities for the sector to raise any issues for the sector to raise any issues with for the sector to raise any issues with me for the sector to raise any issues with me with for the sector to raise any issues with me with regard for the sector to raise any issues with me with regard to for the sector to raise any issues with me with regard to legislative with me with regard to legislative changes with me with regard to legislative changes or with me with regard to legislative changes or any with me with regard to legislative changes or any other with me with regard to legislative changes or any other matter with me with regard to legislative changes or any other matter relating changes or any other matter relating to changes or any other matter relating to Government changes or any other matter relating to Government policy. changes or any other matter relating to Government policy. Supplementary. to Government policy. Supplementary. Is to Government policy. Supplementary. for to Government policy. Supplementary. Is he aware to Government policy. Supplementary. Is he aware that to Government policy. Supplementary. Is he aware that the to Government policy. Supplementary. Is he aware that the Employment Is he aware that the Employment Relations Is he aware that the Employment Relations Amendment Is he aware that the Employment Relations Amendment Bill Is he aware that the Employment Relations Amendment Bill 2018 Is he aware that the Employment Relations Amendment Bill 2018 gives Relations Amendment Bill 2018 gives union Relations Amendment Bill 2018 gives union representatives Relations Amendment Bill 2018 gives union representatives the Relations Amendment Bill 2018 gives union representatives the right Relations Amendment Bill 2018 gives union representatives the right to union representatives the right to enter union representatives the right to enter early union representatives the right to enter early childhood union representatives the right to enter early childhood services enter early childhood services without enter early childhood services without prior enter early childhood services without prior consent enter early childhood services without prior consent or enter early childhood services without prior consent or warning, without prior consent or warning, and without prior consent or warning, and does without prior consent or warning, and does he without prior consent or warning, and does he have without prior consent or warning, and does he have any without prior consent or warning, and does he have any concerns without prior consent or warning, and does he have any concerns about and does he have any concerns about the and does he have any concerns about the impact and does he have any concerns about the impact this and does he have any concerns about the impact this could and does he have any concerns about the impact this could have and does he have any concerns about the impact this could have on and does he have any concerns about the impact this could have on the the impact this could have on the children the impact this could have on the children in the impact this could have on the children in those the impact this could have on the children in those services? the impact this could have on the children in those services? Yes, the impact this could have on the children in those services? Yes, I children in those services? Yes, I am children in those services? Yes, I am familiar children in those services? Yes, I am familiar with children in those services? Yes, I am familiar with the children in those services? Yes, I am familiar with the contents children in those services? Yes, I am familiar with the contents of children in those services? Yes, I am familiar with the contents of the am familiar with the contents of the Bill. am familiar with the contents of the Bill. Is am familiar with the contents of the Bill. Is it am familiar with the contents of the Bill. Is it appropriate am familiar with the contents of the Bill. Is it appropriate for am familiar with the contents of the Bill. Is it appropriate for union Bill. Is it appropriate for union reps, Bill. Is it appropriate for union reps, without Bill. Is it appropriate for union reps, without warning, Bill. Is it appropriate for union reps, without warning, to Bill. Is it appropriate for union reps, without warning, to walk Bill. Is it appropriate for union reps, without warning, to walk into reps, without warning, to walk into child-care reps, without warning, to walk into child-care centres reps, without warning, to walk into child-care centres unannounced child-care centres unannounced without child-care centres unannounced without background child-care centres unannounced without background checks? child-care centres unannounced without background checks? Any child-care centres unannounced without background checks? Any union without background checks? Any union representative without background checks? Any union representative entering without background checks? Any union representative entering such without background checks? Any union representative entering such a without background checks? Any union representative entering such a work representative entering such a work mace representative entering such a work mace will representative entering such a work mace will still representative entering such a work mace will still have representative entering such a work mace will still have to representative entering such a work mace will still have to comply representative entering such a work mace will still have to comply with mace will still have to comply with any mace will still have to comply with any other mace will still have to comply with any other regulatory mace will still have to comply with any other regulatory or mace will still have to comply with any other regulatory or legislative any other regulatory or legislative requirements any other regulatory or legislative requirements on any other regulatory or legislative requirements on that any other regulatory or legislative requirements on that workplace. requirements on that workplace. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Is <INTERRUPTION> Is he <INTERRUPTION> Is he aware <INTERRUPTION> Is he aware that <INTERRUPTION> Is he aware that proposed <INTERRUPTION> Is he aware that proposed employment Is he aware that proposed employment law Is he aware that proposed employment law changes Is he aware that proposed employment law changes could Is he aware that proposed employment law changes could require Is he aware that proposed employment law changes could require a law changes could require a child-care law changes could require a child-care worker law changes could require a child-care worker to law changes could require a child-care worker to be law changes could require a child-care worker to be reinstated child-care worker to be reinstated after child-care worker to be reinstated after dismissal child-care worker to be reinstated after dismissal even child-care worker to be reinstated after dismissal even if child-care worker to be reinstated after dismissal even if a child-care worker to be reinstated after dismissal even if a centre child-care worker to be reinstated after dismissal even if a centre has after dismissal even if a centre has remaining after dismissal even if a centre has remaining concerns after dismissal even if a centre has remaining concerns about after dismissal even if a centre has remaining concerns about their remaining concerns about their conduct remaining concerns about their conduct with remaining concerns about their conduct with children? remaining concerns about their conduct with children? In remaining concerns about their conduct with children? In the remaining concerns about their conduct with children? In the centre conduct with children? In the centre has conduct with children? In the centre has concerns conduct with children? In the centre has concerns about conduct with children? In the centre has concerns about their conduct with children? In the centre has concerns about their conduct has concerns about their conduct with has concerns about their conduct with children has concerns about their conduct with children there has concerns about their conduct with children there are has concerns about their conduct with children there are a has concerns about their conduct with children there are a range has concerns about their conduct with children there are a range of with children there are a range of options with children there are a range of options for with children there are a range of options for them, with children there are a range of options for them, including with children there are a range of options for them, including - with children there are a range of options for them, including - if options for them, including - if they options for them, including - if they are options for them, including - if they are a options for them, including - if they are a registered options for them, including - if they are a registered teacher options for them, including - if they are a registered teacher - they are a registered teacher - pursuing they are a registered teacher - pursuing that they are a registered teacher - pursuing that through they are a registered teacher - pursuing that through the they are a registered teacher - pursuing that through the Teaching pursuing that through the Teaching Council. pursuing that through the Teaching Council. I pursuing that through the Teaching Council. I completely pursuing that through the Teaching Council. I completely reject pursuing that through the Teaching Council. I completely reject the Council. I completely reject the premise Council. I completely reject the premise of Council. I completely reject the premise of the Council. I completely reject the premise of the member's Council. 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And viability and quality of those services"? And will viability and quality of those services"? And will he viability and quality of those services"? And will he investigate services"? And will he investigate their services"? And will he investigate their concerns services"? And will he investigate their concerns further? services"? And will he investigate their concerns further? As services"? And will he investigate their concerns further? As I've their concerns further? As I've already their concerns further? As I've already indicated their concerns further? As I've already indicated in their concerns further? As I've already indicated in my their concerns further? As I've already indicated in my answer their concerns further? As I've already indicated in my answer to already indicated in my answer to the already indicated in my answer to the primary already indicated in my answer to the primary question, already indicated in my answer to the primary question, I already indicated in my answer to the primary question, I have the primary question, I have discussed the primary question, I have discussed a the primary question, I have discussed a range the primary question, I have discussed a range of the primary question, I have discussed a range of matters the primary question, I have discussed a range of matters with discussed a range of matters with the discussed a range of matters with the early discussed a range of matters with the early childhood discussed a range of matters with the early childhood sector discussed a range of matters with the early childhood sector regarding the early childhood sector regarding changes the early childhood sector regarding changes and the early childhood sector regarding changes and I the early childhood sector regarding changes and I will the early childhood sector regarding changes and I will continue the early childhood sector regarding changes and I will continue to the early childhood sector regarding changes and I will continue to do changes and I will continue to do so. changes and I will continue to do so. 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Is the Minister concerned about the impact on the concerned about the impact on the early concerned about the impact on the early childhood concerned about the impact on the early childhood sector concerned about the impact on the early childhood sector of concerned about the impact on the early childhood sector of Members concerned about the impact on the early childhood sector of Members of early childhood sector of Members of Parliament early childhood sector of Members of Parliament grossly early childhood sector of Members of Parliament grossly misleading early childhood sector of Members of Parliament grossly misleading the Parliament grossly misleading the public Parliament grossly misleading the public on Parliament grossly misleading the public on matters Parliament grossly misleading the public on matters before Parliament grossly misleading the public on matters before this Parliament grossly misleading the public on matters before this House? public on matters before this House? <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> . <INTERRUPTION> . 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I seek leave to table order, Nicola Willis. I seek leave to table a order, Nicola Willis. I seek leave to table a letter order, Nicola Willis. I seek leave to table a letter received order, Nicola Willis. I seek leave to table a letter received by order, Nicola Willis. I seek leave to table a letter received by my to table a letter received by my office to table a letter received by my office and to table a letter received by my office and signed to table a letter received by my office and signed by to table a letter received by my office and signed by a to table a letter received by my office and signed by a number to table a letter received by my office and signed by a number of office and signed by a number of early office and signed by a number of early child-care office and signed by a number of early child-care services office and signed by a number of early child-care services regarding early child-care services regarding the early child-care services regarding the impacts early child-care services regarding the impacts of early child-care services regarding the impacts of the early child-care services regarding the impacts of the Employment the impacts of the Employment Relations the impacts of the Employment Relations Amendment the impacts of the Employment Relations Amendment Bill the impacts of the Employment Relations Amendment Bill 2018 the impacts of the Employment Relations Amendment Bill 2018 on Relations Amendment Bill 2018 on early Relations Amendment Bill 2018 on early childhood Relations Amendment Bill 2018 on early childhood services. Relations Amendment Bill 2018 on early childhood services. Is Relations Amendment Bill 2018 on early childhood services. Is there early childhood services. Is there any early childhood services. Is there any objection early childhood services. Is there any objection to early childhood services. Is there any objection to that early childhood services. Is there any objection to that letter early childhood services. Is there any objection to that letter being any objection to that letter being tabled? any objection to that letter being tabled? There any objection to that letter being tabled? There appears any objection to that letter being tabled? There appears to any objection to that letter being tabled? There appears to be any objection to that letter being tabled? There appears to be none. any objection to that letter being tabled? There appears to be none. It tabled? There appears to be none. It can tabled? There appears to be none. It can be tabled? There appears to be none. It can be tabled. tabled? There appears to be none. It can be tabled. Question tabled? There appears to be none. It can be tabled. Question No. tabled? There appears to be none. It can be tabled. Question No. 8. INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: My INTERPRETER: My question INTERPRETER: My question is INTERPRETER: My question is to INTERPRETER: My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Maori My question is to the Minister for Maori Development: My question is to the Minister for Maori Development: What Minister for Maori Development: What reports Minister for Maori Development: What reports has Minister for Maori Development: What reports has she Minister for Maori Development: What reports has she seen Minister for Maori Development: What reports has she seen to Minister for Maori Development: What reports has she seen to support Minister for Maori Development: What reports has she seen to support the reports has she seen to support the Government's reports has she seen to support the Government's ambition reports has she seen to support the Government's ambition of reports has she seen to support the Government's ambition of 1 reports has she seen to support the Government's ambition of 1 million Government's ambition of 1 million New Government's ambition of 1 million New Zealanders Government's ambition of 1 million New Zealanders speaking Government's ambition of 1 million New Zealanders speaking basic Government's ambition of 1 million New Zealanders speaking basic Te Government's ambition of 1 million New Zealanders speaking basic Te reo New Zealanders speaking basic Te reo M ori New Zealanders speaking basic Te reo M ori by New Zealanders speaking basic Te reo M ori by 2040? INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: Thank INTERPRETER: Thank you. INTERPRETER: Thank you. I INTERPRETER: Thank you. I have INTERPRETER: Thank you. I have just INTERPRETER: Thank you. I have just received INTERPRETER: Thank you. I have just received that INTERPRETER: Thank you. I have just received that highlight INTERPRETER: Thank you. I have just received that highlight a INTERPRETER: Thank you. I have just received that highlight a report received that highlight a report that received that highlight a report that portrays received that highlight a report that portrays the received that highlight a report that portrays the figures received that highlight a report that portrays the figures relating that portrays the figures relating to that portrays the figures relating to - that portrays the figures relating to - the that portrays the figures relating to - the four that portrays the figures relating to - the four different that portrays the figures relating to - the four different perspectives to - the four different perspectives that to - the four different perspectives that were to - the four different perspectives that were mentioned. to - the four different perspectives that were mentioned. The to - the four different perspectives that were mentioned. The number to - the four different perspectives that were mentioned. The number of that were mentioned. The number of contexts that were mentioned. The number of contexts of that were mentioned. The number of contexts of Maori that were mentioned. The number of contexts of Maori people that were mentioned. The number of contexts of Maori people have that were mentioned. The number of contexts of Maori people have been contexts of Maori people have been speaking contexts of Maori people have been speaking has contexts of Maori people have been speaking has been contexts of Maori people have been speaking has been taken contexts of Maori people have been speaking has been taken note contexts of Maori people have been speaking has been taken note of contexts of Maori people have been speaking has been taken note of now, speaking has been taken note of now, the speaking has been taken note of now, the number speaking has been taken note of now, the number of speaking has been taken note of now, the number of people speaking has been taken note of now, the number of people speaking speaking has been taken note of now, the number of people speaking the the number of people speaking the language the number of people speaking the language has the number of people speaking the language has increased. the number of people speaking the language has increased. And the number of people speaking the language has increased. And it the number of people speaking the language has increased. And it is language has increased. And it is becoming language has increased. And it is becoming an language has increased. And it is becoming an intergenerational language has increased. And it is becoming an intergenerational thing. becoming an intergenerational thing. So becoming an intergenerational thing. So the becoming an intergenerational thing. So the language becoming an intergenerational thing. So the language flows. becoming an intergenerational thing. So the language flows. I becoming an intergenerational thing. So the language flows. I have So the language flows. I have another So the language flows. I have another question. So the language flows. I have another question. The So the language flows. I have another question. The policy So the language flows. I have another question. The policy of So the language flows. I have another question. 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There is an aspiration INTERPRETER: Thank you for that question. There is an aspiration of question. There is an aspiration of the question. There is an aspiration of the government question. There is an aspiration of the government to question. There is an aspiration of the government to begin question. There is an aspiration of the government to begin this. question. There is an aspiration of the government to begin this. We question. There is an aspiration of the government to begin this. We are the government to begin this. We are hoping the government to begin this. We are hoping that the government to begin this. We are hoping that New the government to begin this. We are hoping that New Zealand the government to begin this. We are hoping that New Zealand will the government to begin this. We are hoping that New Zealand will become hoping that New Zealand will become bilingual hoping that New Zealand will become bilingual before hoping that New Zealand will become bilingual before 2025. hoping that New Zealand will become bilingual before 2025. This hoping that New Zealand will become bilingual before 2025. This is hoping that New Zealand will become bilingual before 2025. This is one bilingual before 2025. This is one of bilingual before 2025. This is one of the bilingual before 2025. This is one of the strategies bilingual before 2025. This is one of the strategies that bilingual before 2025. This is one of the strategies that there bilingual before 2025. This is one of the strategies that there will bilingual before 2025. 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So it is hoped that the Maori language will speak to other Maori language will speak to other parts Maori language will speak to other parts of Maori language will speak to other parts of the Maori language will speak to other parts of the curriculum Maori language will speak to other parts of the curriculum and Maori language will speak to other parts of the curriculum and all parts of the curriculum and all schools parts of the curriculum and all schools before parts of the curriculum and all schools before the parts of the curriculum and all schools before the year parts of the curriculum and all schools before the year 2025. parts of the curriculum and all schools before the year 2025. This schools before the year 2025. This is schools before the year 2025. This is just schools before the year 2025. This is just what schools before the year 2025. This is just what the schools before the year 2025. This is just what the PM schools before the year 2025. This is just what the PM had schools before the year 2025. This is just what the PM had mentioned. is just what the PM had mentioned. INTERPRETER: is just what the PM had mentioned. INTERPRETER: How is just what the PM had mentioned. INTERPRETER: How will is just what the PM had mentioned. INTERPRETER: How will the is just what the PM had mentioned. INTERPRETER: How will the Government INTERPRETER: How will the Government improve INTERPRETER: How will the Government improve the INTERPRETER: How will the Government improve the number INTERPRETER: How will the Government improve the number of INTERPRETER: How will the Government improve the number of teachers? improve the number of teachers? INTERPRETER: improve the number of teachers? INTERPRETER: We improve the number of teachers? INTERPRETER: We know improve the number of teachers? INTERPRETER: We know there improve the number of teachers? INTERPRETER: We know there was improve the number of teachers? INTERPRETER: We know there was not improve the number of teachers? 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That the number of the policy - environment policy. That there the number of the policy - environment policy. That there be the number of the policy - environment policy. That there be 35 environment policy. That there be 35 - environment policy. That there be 35 - under environment policy. That there be 35 - under the environment policy. That there be 35 - under the Teach environment policy. That there be 35 - under the Teach First environment policy. That there be 35 - under the Teach First New environment policy. That there be 35 - under the Teach First New Zealand - under the Teach First New Zealand scholarship. - under the Teach First New Zealand scholarship. There - under the Teach First New Zealand scholarship. There are - under the Teach First New Zealand scholarship. There are a - under the Teach First New Zealand scholarship. There are a lot - under the Teach First New Zealand scholarship. There are a lot of scholarship. There are a lot of teachers scholarship. There are a lot of teachers from scholarship. There are a lot of teachers from the scholarship. There are a lot of teachers from the Pacific. scholarship. There are a lot of teachers from the Pacific. There teachers from the Pacific. There will teachers from the Pacific. There will be teachers from the Pacific. There will be 400 teachers from the Pacific. There will be 400 scholarships teachers from the Pacific. There will be 400 scholarships for teachers from the Pacific. There will be 400 scholarships for Te teachers from the Pacific. There will be 400 scholarships for Te Reo will be 400 scholarships for Te Reo Maori will be 400 scholarships for Te Reo Maori students. Maori students. INTERPRETER: Maori students. INTERPRETER: What Maori students. INTERPRETER: What are Maori students. INTERPRETER: What are some Maori students. INTERPRETER: What are some other INTERPRETER: What are some other policies INTERPRETER: What are some other policies that INTERPRETER: What are some other policies that the INTERPRETER: What are some other policies that the minister INTERPRETER: What are some other policies that the minister is INTERPRETER: What are some other policies that the minister is aware policies that the minister is aware of policies that the minister is aware of in policies that the minister is aware of in terms policies that the minister is aware of in terms of policies that the minister is aware of in terms of the policies that the minister is aware of in terms of the government's of in terms of the government's support of in terms of the government's support for of in terms of the government's support for the of in terms of the government's support for the number of in terms of the government's support for the number - of in terms of the government's support for the number - for of in terms of the government's support for the number - for 1 support for the number - for 1 million support for the number - for 1 million people support for the number - for 1 million people speaking support for the number - for 1 million people speaking Maori? million people speaking Maori? 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INTERPRETER: iti. INTERPRETER: I iti. INTERPRETER: I will iti. INTERPRETER: I will give iti. INTERPRETER: I will give a iti. INTERPRETER: I will give a short INTERPRETER: I will give a short response. INTERPRETER: I will give a short response. As INTERPRETER: I will give a short response. As was INTERPRETER: I will give a short response. As was made INTERPRETER: I will give a short response. As was made official, INTERPRETER: I will give a short response. As was made official, some response. As was made official, some aspects response. As was made official, some aspects in response. As was made official, some aspects in our response. As was made official, some aspects in our report response. As was made official, some aspects in our report about response. 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Question teachers to let the language flow everywhere. Question No. teachers to let the language flow everywhere. Question No. 9. teachers to let the language flow everywhere. Question No. 9. Point teachers to let the language flow everywhere. Question No. 9. Point of everywhere. Question No. 9. Point of order. everywhere. Question No. 9. Point of order. I everywhere. Question No. 9. Point of order. I hesitated everywhere. Question No. 9. Point of order. I hesitated to everywhere. Question No. 9. Point of order. I hesitated to raise everywhere. Question No. 9. Point of order. I hesitated to raise this order. I hesitated to raise this yesterday order. I hesitated to raise this yesterday because order. I hesitated to raise this yesterday because of order. I hesitated to raise this yesterday because of the order. 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But you have just pulled up a minister for what you pulled up a minister for what you considered pulled up a minister for what you considered to pulled up a minister for what you considered to be pulled up a minister for what you considered to be this, pulled up a minister for what you considered to be this, inappropriate considered to be this, inappropriate language considered to be this, inappropriate language in considered to be this, inappropriate language in Parliament. considered to be this, inappropriate language in Parliament. I considered to be this, inappropriate language in Parliament. I wonder... language in Parliament. I wonder... No, language in Parliament. I wonder... No, no. language in Parliament. I wonder... No, no. Too language in Parliament. I wonder... No, no. Too much language in Parliament. I wonder... No, no. Too much language. language in Parliament. I wonder... No, no. Too much language. Too language in Parliament. I wonder... No, no. Too much language. 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Can I just say that members member resume his seat? Can I just say that members know member resume his seat? Can I just say that members know that member resume his seat? Can I just say that members know that it member resume his seat? Can I just say that members know that it is member resume his seat? Can I just say that members know that it is a say that members know that it is a right say that members know that it is a right of say that members know that it is a right of any say that members know that it is a right of any member say that members know that it is a right of any member to say that members know that it is a right of any member to raise say that members know that it is a right of any member to raise a say that members know that it is a right of any member to raise a point right of any member to raise a point of right of any member to raise a point of order. right of any member to raise a point of order. Points right of any member to raise a point of order. 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Now, tolerance which I find unacceptable. Now, Mr tolerance which I find unacceptable. Now, Mr Brownlee, tolerance which I find unacceptable. Now, Mr Brownlee, go tolerance which I find unacceptable. Now, Mr Brownlee, go back tolerance which I find unacceptable. Now, Mr Brownlee, go back to tolerance which I find unacceptable. Now, Mr Brownlee, go back to the Now, Mr Brownlee, go back to the second Now, Mr Brownlee, go back to the second part Now, Mr Brownlee, go back to the second part of Now, Mr Brownlee, go back to the second part of your Now, Mr Brownlee, go back to the second part of your point. Now, Mr Brownlee, go back to the second part of your point. It Now, Mr Brownlee, go back to the second part of your point. It was second part of your point. It was simply second part of your point. It was simply if second part of your point. It was simply if the second part of your point. It was simply if the Parliament second part of your point. It was simply if the Parliament is second part of your point. It was simply if the Parliament is to second part of your point. It was simply if the Parliament is to seek simply if the Parliament is to seek more simply if the Parliament is to seek more use simply if the Parliament is to seek more use of simply if the Parliament is to seek more use of Te simply if the Parliament is to seek more use of Te Reo, simply if the Parliament is to seek more use of Te Reo, then simply if the Parliament is to seek more use of Te Reo, then I simply if the Parliament is to seek more use of Te Reo, then I think simply if the Parliament is to seek more use of Te Reo, then I think it more use of Te Reo, then I think it is more use of Te Reo, then I think it is important more use of Te Reo, then I think it is important that more use of Te Reo, then I think it is important that when more use of Te Reo, then I think it is important that when people more use of Te Reo, then I think it is important that when people are is important that when people are using is important that when people are using it, is important that when people are using it, they is important that when people are using it, they are is important that when people are using it, they are not is important that when people are using it, they are not using is important that when people are using it, they are not using it is important that when people are using it, they are not using it to using it, they are not using it to deliver using it, they are not using it to deliver insults using it, they are not using it to deliver insults or using it, they are not using it to deliver insults or other using it, they are not using it to deliver insults or other comment deliver insults or other comment that deliver insults or other comment that might deliver insults or other comment that might not deliver insults or other comment that might not ordinarily deliver insults or other comment that might not ordinarily be that might not ordinarily be acceptable. that might not ordinarily be acceptable. And that might not ordinarily be acceptable. And I that might not ordinarily be acceptable. And I hope that might not ordinarily be acceptable. And I hope too that might not ordinarily be acceptable. And I hope too that acceptable. And I hope too that there acceptable. And I hope too that there is acceptable. And I hope too that there is - acceptable. And I hope too that there is - while acceptable. And I hope too that there is - while I'm acceptable. And I hope too that there is - while I'm on acceptable. And I hope too that there is - while I'm on my acceptable. And I hope too that there is - while I'm on my feet acceptable. And I hope too that there is - while I'm on my feet - acceptable. And I hope too that there is - while I'm on my feet - a there is - while I'm on my feet - a greater there is - while I'm on my feet - a greater level there is - while I'm on my feet - a greater level of there is - while I'm on my feet - a greater level of tolerance there is - while I'm on my feet - a greater level of tolerance for greater level of tolerance for people greater level of tolerance for people - greater level of tolerance for people - it greater level of tolerance for people - it relates greater level of tolerance for people - it relates to greater level of tolerance for people - it relates to the greater level of tolerance for people - it relates to the question people - it relates to the question yesterday people - it relates to the question yesterday - people - it relates to the question yesterday - that people - it relates to the question yesterday - that do people - it relates to the question yesterday - that do sometimes people - it relates to the question yesterday - that do sometimes get yesterday - that do sometimes get the yesterday - that do sometimes get the vowel yesterday - that do sometimes get the vowel sounds yesterday - that do sometimes get the vowel sounds a yesterday - that do sometimes get the vowel sounds a little the vowel sounds a little inappropriately the vowel sounds a little inappropriately pronounced. the vowel sounds a little inappropriately pronounced. 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I have got to say, I haven't used the got to say, I haven't used the language got to say, I haven't used the language in got to say, I haven't used the language in 20 got to say, I haven't used the language in 20 years, got to say, I haven't used the language in 20 years, because got to say, I haven't used the language in 20 years, because of got to say, I haven't used the language in 20 years, because of a language in 20 years, because of a tirade language in 20 years, because of a tirade that language in 20 years, because of a tirade that was language in 20 years, because of a tirade that was dumped language in 20 years, because of a tirade that was dumped on language in 20 years, because of a tirade that was dumped on me language in 20 years, because of a tirade that was dumped on me by language in 20 years, because of a tirade that was dumped on me by the tirade that was dumped on me by the Maori tirade that was dumped on me by the Maori Language tirade that was dumped on me by the Maori Language Commission tirade that was dumped on me by the Maori Language Commission and tirade that was dumped on me by the Maori Language Commission and the Maori Language Commission and the chef Maori Language Commission and the chef executive Maori Language Commission and the chef executive back Maori Language Commission and the chef executive back -- Maori Language Commission and the chef executive back -- chief chef executive back -- chief executive chef executive back -- chief executive back chef executive back -- chief executive back then. chef executive back -- chief executive back then. 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