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INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: Almighty INTERPRETER: Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. Petitions Petitions have Petitions have been Petitions have been delivered Petitions have been delivered to Petitions have been delivered to the Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for presentation. to the Clerk for presentation. Petition to the Clerk for presentation. Petition of to the Clerk for presentation. Petition of Max to the Clerk for presentation. Petition of Max Tweedie Petition of Max Tweedie requesting Petition of Max Tweedie requesting that Petition of Max Tweedie requesting that the Petition of Max Tweedie requesting that the House Petition of Max Tweedie requesting that the House ban Petition of Max Tweedie requesting that the House ban gay requesting that the House ban gay conversion requesting that the House ban gay conversion therapy. conversion therapy. Petition conversion therapy. Petition of conversion therapy. Petition of Ron conversion therapy. Petition of Ron Wilkins conversion therapy. Petition of Ron Wilkins for conversion therapy. 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Ministry of Social Development, Ministry of Social Development, Statement Ministry of Social Development, Statement of Ministry of Social Development, Statement of Intent Ministry of Social Development, Statement of Intent 2018-2022 Statement of Intent 2018-2022 Report Statement of Intent 2018-2022 Report of Statement of Intent 2018-2022 Report of the Statement of Intent 2018-2022 Report of the Remuneration Statement of Intent 2018-2022 Report of the Remuneration Authority Report of the Remuneration Authority for Report of the Remuneration Authority for the Report of the Remuneration Authority for the year Report of the Remuneration Authority for the year ended Report of the Remuneration Authority for the year ended 30 Report of the Remuneration Authority for the year ended 30 June Report of the Remuneration Authority for the year ended 30 June 2018 for the year ended 30 June 2018 Those for the year ended 30 June 2018 Those papers for the year ended 30 June 2018 Those papers are for the year ended 30 June 2018 Those papers are published Those papers are published under Those papers are published under the Those papers are published under the authority Those papers are published under the authority of Those papers are published under the authority of the Those papers are published under the authority of the House. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: My question is to the Minister of Finance: What My question is to the Minister of Finance: What recent My question is to the Minister of Finance: What recent reports My question is to the Minister of Finance: What recent reports has My question is to the Minister of Finance: What recent reports has he Finance: What recent reports has he seen Finance: What recent reports has he seen on Finance: What recent reports has he seen on the Finance: What recent reports has he seen on the New Finance: What recent reports has he seen on the New Zealand Finance: What recent reports has he seen on the New Zealand economy? The The Hon The Hon Grant The Hon Grant Robertson. The Hon Grant Robertson. Mr The Hon Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, The Hon Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, following The Hon Grant Robertson. 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Mr Speaker, following on from MB's job ads being following on from MB's job ads being up following on from MB's job ads being up 7% following on from MB's job ads being up 7% on following on from MB's job ads being up 7% on a following on from MB's job ads being up 7% on a year following on from MB's job ads being up 7% on a year ago, following on from MB's job ads being up 7% on a year ago, a following on from MB's job ads being up 7% on a year ago, a record up 7% on a year ago, a record positive up 7% on a year ago, a record positive terms up 7% on a year ago, a record positive terms of up 7% on a year ago, a record positive terms of trade, up 7% on a year ago, a record positive terms of trade, and up 7% on a year ago, a record positive terms of trade, and strong positive terms of trade, and strong retail positive terms of trade, and strong retail card positive terms of trade, and strong retail card spending, positive terms of trade, and strong retail card spending, and positive terms of trade, and strong retail card spending, and the retail card spending, and the growing retail card spending, and the growing ANZ retail card spending, and the growing ANZ Truckometer, retail card spending, and the growing ANZ Truckometer, we retail card spending, and the growing ANZ Truckometer, we can retail card spending, and the growing ANZ Truckometer, we can see growing ANZ Truckometer, we can see a growing ANZ Truckometer, we can see a tangible growing ANZ Truckometer, we can see a tangible example growing ANZ Truckometer, we can see a tangible example of growing ANZ Truckometer, we can see a tangible example of our growing ANZ Truckometer, we can see a tangible example of our healthy a tangible example of our healthy economy a tangible example of our healthy economy on a tangible example of our healthy economy on our a tangible example of our healthy economy on our skylines. a tangible example of our healthy economy on our skylines. On a tangible example of our healthy economy on our skylines. On Sunday, economy on our skylines. On Sunday, Ryde economy on our skylines. On Sunday, Ryde Bucknell economy on our skylines. On Sunday, Ryde Bucknell delivered economy on our skylines. On Sunday, Ryde Bucknell delivered its economy on our skylines. On Sunday, Ryde Bucknell delivered its Crane Ryde Bucknell delivered its Crane Index Ryde Bucknell delivered its Crane Index Quarter Ryde Bucknell delivered its Crane Index Quarter 32018, Ryde Bucknell delivered its Crane Index Quarter 32018, which Index Quarter 32018, which highlighted Index Quarter 32018, which highlighted strong Index Quarter 32018, which highlighted strong growth Index Quarter 32018, which highlighted strong growth in Index Quarter 32018, which highlighted strong growth in New highlighted strong growth in New Zealand's highlighted strong growth in New Zealand's construction highlighted strong growth in New Zealand's construction industry. highlighted strong growth in New Zealand's construction industry. The Zealand's construction industry. The index Zealand's construction industry. The index is Zealand's construction industry. The index is regarded Zealand's construction industry. The index is regarded as Zealand's construction industry. The index is regarded as a Zealand's construction industry. The index is regarded as a good Zealand's construction industry. 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As the company themselves put it, "The level of themselves put it, "The level of construction themselves put it, "The level of construction activity themselves put it, "The level of construction activity remains themselves put it, "The level of construction activity remains high construction activity remains high across construction activity remains high across the construction activity remains high across the country construction activity remains high across the country due construction activity remains high across the country due to construction activity remains high across the country due to strong across the country due to strong underlying across the country due to strong underlying demand across the country due to strong underlying demand across across the country due to strong underlying demand across nearly across the country due to strong underlying demand across nearly all underlying demand across nearly all sectors, underlying demand across nearly all sectors, and underlying demand across nearly all sectors, and is underlying demand across nearly all sectors, and is showing underlying demand across nearly all sectors, and is showing no underlying demand across nearly all sectors, and is showing no signs underlying demand across nearly all sectors, and is showing no signs of sectors, and is showing no signs of tailing sectors, and is showing no signs of tailing off," sectors, and is showing no signs of tailing off," Mr sectors, and is showing no signs of tailing off," Mr Bishop. sectors, and is showing no signs of tailing off," Mr Bishop. 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Mr Speaker, this is yet more real data which this is yet more real data which shows this is yet more real data which shows an this is yet more real data which shows an economy this is yet more real data which shows an economy that this is yet more real data which shows an economy that is this is yet more real data which shows an economy that is moving shows an economy that is moving along shows an economy that is moving along at shows an economy that is moving along at a shows an economy that is moving along at a solid shows an economy that is moving along at a solid pace. shows an economy that is moving along at a solid pace. What shows an economy that is moving along at a solid pace. What do shows an economy that is moving along at a solid pace. What do the along at a solid pace. What do the reports along at a solid pace. What do the reports say along at a solid pace. What do the reports say about along at a solid pace. What do the reports say about construction along at a solid pace. What do the reports say about construction in reports say about construction in Auckland? reports say about construction in Auckland? Mr reports say about construction in Auckland? Mr Speaker, reports say about construction in Auckland? Mr Speaker, the reports say about construction in Auckland? Mr Speaker, the report Auckland? Mr Speaker, the report shows Auckland? Mr Speaker, the report shows the Auckland? Mr Speaker, the report shows the number Auckland? Mr Speaker, the report shows the number of Auckland? Mr Speaker, the report shows the number of cranes Auckland? 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No. No. As No. As has No. As has been No. As has been stated No. As has been stated at No. As has been stated at the No. As has been stated at the time, No. As has been stated at the time, Clare No. As has been stated at the time, Clare Curran's No. As has been stated at the time, Clare Curran's failure No. As has been stated at the time, Clare Curran's failure to No. As has been stated at the time, Clare Curran's failure to accurately Clare Curran's failure to accurately answer Clare Curran's failure to accurately answer parliamentary Clare Curran's failure to accurately answer parliamentary questions Clare Curran's failure to accurately answer parliamentary questions about answer parliamentary questions about her answer parliamentary questions about her meeting answer parliamentary questions about her meeting with answer parliamentary questions about her meeting with Mr answer parliamentary questions about her meeting with Mr Handley answer parliamentary questions about her meeting with Mr Handley did answer parliamentary questions about her meeting with Mr Handley did not her meeting with Mr Handley did not meet her meeting with Mr Handley did not meet my her meeting with Mr Handley did not meet my or her meeting with Mr Handley did not meet my or the her meeting with Mr Handley did not meet my or the former her meeting with Mr Handley did not meet my or the former Minister's meet my or the former Minister's expectation. meet my or the former Minister's expectation. That meet my or the former Minister's expectation. That is meet my or the former Minister's expectation. That is why meet my or the former Minister's expectation. That is why I meet my or the former Minister's expectation. That is why I accepted expectation. That is why I accepted her expectation. That is why I accepted her resignation expectation. That is why I accepted her resignation from expectation. That is why I accepted her resignation from her expectation. That is why I accepted her resignation from her Open her resignation from her Open Government her resignation from her Open Government responsibilities. her resignation from her Open Government responsibilities. What Government responsibilities. What were Government responsibilities. What were the Government responsibilities. What were the communications Government responsibilities. What were the communications between were the communications between herself were the communications between herself and were the communications between herself and Clare were the communications between herself and Clare Curran were the communications between herself and Clare Curran on were the communications between herself and Clare Curran on the herself and Clare Curran on the matter herself and Clare Curran on the matter of herself and Clare Curran on the matter of the herself and Clare Curran on the matter of the Government's herself and Clare Curran on the matter of the Government's Chief matter of the Government's Chief Technology matter of the Government's Chief Technology Officer matter of the Government's Chief Technology Officer appointment, Technology Officer appointment, which Technology Officer appointment, which were Technology Officer appointment, which were confirmed Technology Officer appointment, which were confirmed to Technology Officer appointment, which were confirmed to have Technology Officer appointment, which were confirmed to have taken which were confirmed to have taken place which were confirmed to have taken place by which were confirmed to have taken place by the which were confirmed to have taken place by the State which were confirmed to have taken place by the State Services which were confirmed to have taken place by the State Services Minister place by the State Services Minister Chris place by the State Services Minister Chris Hipkins place by the State Services Minister Chris Hipkins in place by the State Services Minister Chris Hipkins in parliament place by the State Services Minister Chris Hipkins in parliament last Chris Hipkins in parliament last Thursday? 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But kept me up to date generally with the process. But only kept me up to date generally with the process. But only as kept me up to date generally with the process. But only as would kept me up to date generally with the process. But only as would have the process. But only as would have been the process. But only as would have been appropriate. the process. But only as would have been appropriate. Were the process. But only as would have been appropriate. Were the been appropriate. Were the communications been appropriate. Were the communications between been appropriate. Were the communications between herself been appropriate. 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Is it the policy of this Labour-led Government to pass this Labour-led Government to pass the this Labour-led Government to pass the employment this Labour-led Government to pass the employment relations this Labour-led Government to pass the employment relations bill this Labour-led Government to pass the employment relations bill as the employment relations bill as approved the employment relations bill as approved by the employment relations bill as approved by all the employment relations bill as approved by all of the employment relations bill as approved by all of Cabinet the employment relations bill as approved by all of Cabinet and approved by all of Cabinet and reported approved by all of Cabinet and reported back approved by all of Cabinet and reported back to approved by all of Cabinet and reported back to select approved by all of Cabinet and reported back to select committee? reported back to select committee? If reported back to select committee? 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Next question. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> How <INTERRUPTION> How will <INTERRUPTION> How will her <INTERRUPTION> How will her Budget <INTERRUPTION> How will her Budget responsibility How will her Budget responsibility rules How will her Budget responsibility rules impact How will her Budget responsibility rules impact on How will her Budget responsibility rules impact on GDP? How will her Budget responsibility rules impact on GDP? In How will her Budget responsibility rules impact on GDP? In our How will her Budget responsibility rules impact on GDP? In our minds, rules impact on GDP? In our minds, of rules impact on GDP? In our minds, of course, rules impact on GDP? In our minds, of course, it rules impact on GDP? In our minds, of course, it will rules impact on GDP? In our minds, of course, it will support rules impact on GDP? In our minds, of course, it will support them. rules impact on GDP? In our minds, of course, it will support them. We of course, it will support them. 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We need to make sure that we're need to make sure that we're delivering need to make sure that we're delivering responsible need to make sure that we're delivering responsible governance delivering responsible governance and delivering responsible governance and our delivering responsible governance and our BRRs delivering responsible governance and our BRRs were delivering responsible governance and our BRRs were delivered delivering responsible governance and our BRRs were delivered on delivering responsible governance and our BRRs were delivered on in and our BRRs were delivered on in the and our BRRs were delivered on in the last and our BRRs were delivered on in the last Budget and our BRRs were delivered on in the last Budget and and our BRRs were delivered on in the last Budget and continue and our BRRs were delivered on in the last Budget and continue to and our BRRs were delivered on in the last Budget and continue to show the last Budget and continue to show that the last Budget and continue to show that we're the last Budget and continue to show that we're able the last Budget and continue to show that we're able to the last Budget and continue to show that we're able to deliver the last Budget and continue to show that we're able to deliver surpluses that we're able to deliver surpluses whilst that we're able to deliver surpluses whilst maintaining that we're able to deliver surpluses whilst maintaining Crown that we're able to deliver surpluses whilst maintaining Crown spending that we're able to deliver surpluses whilst maintaining Crown spending at whilst maintaining Crown spending at around whilst maintaining Crown spending at around 30% whilst maintaining Crown spending at around 30% and whilst maintaining Crown spending at around 30% and debt whilst maintaining Crown spending at around 30% and debt to whilst maintaining Crown spending at around 30% and debt to a whilst maintaining Crown spending at around 30% and debt to a level whilst maintaining Crown spending at around 30% and debt to a level of around 30% and debt to a level of 20%. Question Question No. Question No. 4, Question No. 4, the Question No. 4, the Hon Question No. 4, the Hon James Question No. 4, the Hon James Shaw. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Defence: My question is to the Minister of Defence: Is My question is to the Minister of Defence: Is it My question is to the Minister of Defence: Is it his My question is to the Minister of Defence: Is it his intention My question is to the Minister of Defence: Is it his intention to Defence: Is it his intention to continue Defence: Is it his intention to continue the Defence: Is it his intention to continue the deployments Defence: Is it his intention to continue the deployments to continue the deployments to Afghanistan continue the deployments to Afghanistan and continue the deployments to Afghanistan and Iraq continue the deployments to Afghanistan and Iraq beyond continue the deployments to Afghanistan and Iraq beyond 2019? Coup Coup The Coup The Hon Coup The Hon Ron Coup The Hon Ron Mark. Coup The Hon Ron Mark. 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This Government will undertake a strategic reassessment undertake a strategic reassessment in undertake a strategic reassessment in 2019, undertake a strategic reassessment in 2019, early undertake a strategic reassessment in 2019, early 2019. undertake a strategic reassessment in 2019, early 2019. All undertake a strategic reassessment in 2019, early 2019. All options in 2019, early 2019. All options will in 2019, early 2019. All options will be in 2019, early 2019. All options will be on in 2019, early 2019. All options will be on the in 2019, early 2019. All options will be on the table in 2019, early 2019. All options will be on the table at in 2019, early 2019. All options will be on the table at that in 2019, early 2019. All options will be on the table at that point will be on the table at that point in will be on the table at that point in time. will be on the table at that point in time. Those will be on the table at that point in time. Those decisions will be on the table at that point in time. Those decisions will will be on the table at that point in time. Those decisions will be in time. Those decisions will be made in time. Those decisions will be made around in time. Those decisions will be made around the in time. Those decisions will be made around the strategic in time. Those decisions will be made around the strategic situation, made around the strategic situation, our made around the strategic situation, our values, made around the strategic situation, our values, our made around the strategic situation, our values, our independent made around the strategic situation, our values, our independent foreign our values, our independent foreign policy, our values, our independent foreign policy, and our values, our independent foreign policy, and how our values, our independent foreign policy, and how we our values, our independent foreign policy, and how we think our values, our independent foreign policy, and how we think that our values, our independent foreign policy, and how we think that this policy, and how we think that this Government policy, and how we think that this Government might policy, and how we think that this Government might make policy, and how we think that this Government might make a policy, and how we think that this Government might make a difference Government might make a difference to Government might make a difference to the Government might make a difference to the lives Government might make a difference to the lives of Government might make a difference to the lives of the Government might make a difference to the lives of the Iraqi Government might make a difference to the lives of the Iraqi people. to the lives of the Iraqi people. Does to the lives of the Iraqi people. Does he to the lives of the Iraqi people. Does he agree to the lives of the Iraqi people. Does he agree that to the lives of the Iraqi people. Does he agree that continued Does he agree that continued military Does he agree that continued military involvement Does he agree that continued military involvement of Does he agree that continued military involvement of outside military involvement of outside forces military involvement of outside forces has military involvement of outside forces has actually military involvement of outside forces has actually furthered forces has actually furthered destabilised forces has actually furthered destabilised the forces has actually furthered destabilised the region forces has actually furthered destabilised the region and forces has actually furthered destabilised the region and made forces has actually furthered destabilised the region and made it destabilised the region and made it easier destabilised the region and made it easier for destabilised the region and made it easier for terror destabilised the region and made it easier for terror groups destabilised the region and made it easier for terror groups to destabilised the region and made it easier for terror groups to recruit easier for terror groups to recruit and easier for terror groups to recruit and led easier for terror groups to recruit and led to easier for terror groups to recruit and led to an easier for terror groups to recruit and led to an increase easier for terror groups to recruit and led to an increase in easier for terror groups to recruit and led to an increase in violence, and led to an increase in violence, rather and led to an increase in violence, rather than and led to an increase in violence, rather than a and led to an increase in violence, rather than a decrease? and led to an increase in violence, rather than a decrease? 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I think I would add, Mr Speaker, that for Iraq would add, Mr Speaker, that for Iraq to would add, Mr Speaker, that for Iraq to become would add, Mr Speaker, that for Iraq to become a would add, Mr Speaker, that for Iraq to become a prosperous would add, Mr Speaker, that for Iraq to become a prosperous nation would add, Mr Speaker, that for Iraq to become a prosperous nation once to become a prosperous nation once again to become a prosperous nation once again for to become a prosperous nation once again for its to become a prosperous nation once again for its people to become a prosperous nation once again for its people to to become a prosperous nation once again for its people to enjoy to become a prosperous nation once again for its people to enjoy a again for its people to enjoy a quality again for its people to enjoy a quality of again for its people to enjoy a quality of life again for its people to enjoy a quality of life that again for its people to enjoy a quality of life that we again for its people to enjoy a quality of life that we enjoy, again for its people to enjoy a quality of life that we enjoy, for quality of life that we enjoy, for them quality of life that we enjoy, for them to quality of life that we enjoy, for them to have quality of life that we enjoy, for them to have - quality of life that we enjoy, for them to have - to quality of life that we enjoy, for them to have - to enjoy quality of life that we enjoy, for them to have - to enjoy the them to have - to enjoy the wellbeing them to have - to enjoy the wellbeing and them to have - to enjoy the wellbeing and the them to have - to enjoy the wellbeing and the support them to have - to enjoy the wellbeing and the support of them to have - to enjoy the wellbeing and the support of a them to have - to enjoy the wellbeing and the support of a good wellbeing and the support of a good Government wellbeing and the support of a good Government government wellbeing and the support of a good Government government such wellbeing and the support of a good Government government such as wellbeing and the support of a good Government government such as we Government government such as we enjoy, Government government such as we enjoy, they Government government such as we enjoy, they need Government government such as we enjoy, they need security. 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I think that is the greatest think that is the greatest contribution think that is the greatest contribution we're think that is the greatest contribution we're able think that is the greatest contribution we're able to think that is the greatest contribution we're able to make think that is the greatest contribution we're able to make at contribution we're able to make at this contribution we're able to make at this time. contribution we're able to make at this time. But contribution we're able to make at this time. But again, contribution we're able to make at this time. But again, come contribution we're able to make at this time. But again, come next this time. But again, come next year, this time. But again, come next year, this this time. But again, come next year, this Government this time. But again, come next year, this Government will this time. But again, come next year, this Government will reassess year, this Government will reassess the year, this Government will reassess the situation. year, this Government will reassess the situation. Does year, this Government will reassess the situation. Does he year, this Government will reassess the situation. Does he agree year, this Government will reassess the situation. Does he agree that year, this Government will reassess the situation. Does he agree that if the situation. Does he agree that if New the situation. Does he agree that if New Zealand the situation. Does he agree that if New Zealand were the situation. Does he agree that if New Zealand were to the situation. Does he agree that if New Zealand were to play the situation. Does he agree that if New Zealand were to play a the situation. Does he agree that if New Zealand were to play a role New Zealand were to play a role beyond New Zealand were to play a role beyond 2019, New Zealand were to play a role beyond 2019, then New Zealand were to play a role beyond 2019, then the New Zealand were to play a role beyond 2019, then the New New Zealand were to play a role beyond 2019, then the New Zealand beyond 2019, then the New Zealand public beyond 2019, then the New Zealand public would beyond 2019, then the New Zealand public would rather beyond 2019, then the New Zealand public would rather it beyond 2019, then the New Zealand public would rather it be beyond 2019, then the New Zealand public would rather it be focused beyond 2019, then the New Zealand public would rather it be focused on public would rather it be focused on building public would rather it be focused on building schools public would rather it be focused on building schools and public would rather it be focused on building schools and roads public would rather it be focused on building schools and roads and building schools and roads and hospitals building schools and roads and hospitals rather building schools and roads and hospitals rather than building schools and roads and hospitals rather than a building schools and roads and hospitals rather than a seemingly hospitals rather than a seemingly never-ending hospitals rather than a seemingly never-ending military hospitals rather than a seemingly never-ending military engagement? hospitals rather than a seemingly never-ending military engagement? 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And we would share those views that, ultimately, that those views that, ultimately, that is those views that, ultimately, that is where those views that, ultimately, that is where we those views that, ultimately, that is where we would those views that, ultimately, that is where we would like those views that, ultimately, that is where we would like Iraq those views that, ultimately, that is where we would like Iraq to those views that, ultimately, that is where we would like Iraq to be. is where we would like Iraq to be. Right is where we would like Iraq to be. Right now, is where we would like Iraq to be. Right now, the is where we would like Iraq to be. Right now, the most is where we would like Iraq to be. Right now, the most important is where we would like Iraq to be. 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Right now, where we can make a strong where we can make a strong contribution where we can make a strong contribution - where we can make a strong contribution - along where we can make a strong contribution - along with where we can make a strong contribution - along with our contribution - along with our Australian contribution - along with our Australian partners contribution - along with our Australian partners - contribution - along with our Australian partners - is contribution - along with our Australian partners - is to contribution - along with our Australian partners - is to improve Australian partners - is to improve the Australian partners - is to improve the quality Australian partners - is to improve the quality of Australian partners - is to improve the quality of the Australian partners - is to improve the quality of the security Australian partners - is to improve the quality of the security forces the quality of the security forces there the quality of the security forces there and, the quality of the security forces there and, thereby, the quality of the security forces there and, thereby, lend the quality of the security forces there and, thereby, lend greater there and, thereby, lend greater security there and, thereby, lend greater security for there and, thereby, lend greater security for the there and, thereby, lend greater security for the UN there and, thereby, lend greater security for the UN to there and, thereby, lend greater security for the UN to be there and, thereby, lend greater security for the UN to be able there and, thereby, lend greater security for the UN to be able to security for the UN to be able to deliver security for the UN to be able to deliver - security for the UN to be able to deliver - for security for the UN to be able to deliver - for NGOs security for the UN to be able to deliver - for NGOs to security for the UN to be able to deliver - for NGOs to be security for the UN to be able to deliver - for NGOs to be able security for the UN to be able to deliver - for NGOs to be able to deliver - for NGOs to be able to deliver deliver - for NGOs to be able to deliver to deliver - for NGOs to be able to deliver to those deliver - for NGOs to be able to deliver to those people, deliver - for NGOs to be able to deliver to those people, they deliver - for NGOs to be able to deliver to those people, they need deliver to those people, they need security. deliver to those people, they need security. We've deliver to those people, they need security. We've seen deliver to those people, they need security. We've seen examples deliver to those people, they need security. We've seen examples in security. We've seen examples in Sudan security. We've seen examples in Sudan where security. We've seen examples in Sudan where the security. We've seen examples in Sudan where the wonderful security. We've seen examples in Sudan where the wonderful efforts security. We've seen examples in Sudan where the wonderful efforts of Sudan where the wonderful efforts of NGOs Sudan where the wonderful efforts of NGOs have Sudan where the wonderful efforts of NGOs have been Sudan where the wonderful efforts of NGOs have been interjected Sudan where the wonderful efforts of NGOs have been interjected by Sudan where the wonderful efforts of NGOs have been interjected by the NGOs have been interjected by the lack NGOs have been interjected by the lack of NGOs have been interjected by the lack of security. NGOs have been interjected by the lack of security. Also NGOs have been interjected by the lack of security. Also point NGOs have been interjected by the lack of security. Also point out, NGOs have been interjected by the lack of security. Also point out, Mr lack of security. Also point out, Mr Speaker, lack of security. Also point out, Mr Speaker, that lack of security. Also point out, Mr Speaker, that in lack of security. Also point out, Mr Speaker, that in Afghanistan lack of security. Also point out, Mr Speaker, that in Afghanistan alone, Speaker, that in Afghanistan alone, this Speaker, that in Afghanistan alone, this Government, Speaker, that in Afghanistan alone, this Government, over Speaker, that in Afghanistan alone, this Government, over the Speaker, that in Afghanistan alone, this Government, over the years this Government, over the years since this Government, over the years since 2001, this Government, over the years since 2001, has this Government, over the years since 2001, has put this Government, over the years since 2001, has put in this Government, over the years since 2001, has put in over this Government, over the years since 2001, has put in over $100 since 2001, has put in over $100 million since 2001, has put in over $100 million in since 2001, has put in over $100 million in aid. since 2001, has put in over $100 million in aid. There's since 2001, has put in over $100 million in aid. There's another since 2001, has put in over $100 million in aid. There's another $2 million in aid. There's another $2 million million in aid. There's another $2 million to million in aid. There's another $2 million to the million in aid. There's another $2 million to the UN million in aid. There's another $2 million to the UN Development million to the UN Development Programme, million to the UN Development Programme, and million to the UN Development Programme, and there's million to the UN Development Programme, and there's about million to the UN Development Programme, and there's about $3.5 Programme, and there's about $3.5 million Programme, and there's about $3.5 million gone Programme, and there's about $3.5 million gone into Programme, and there's about $3.5 million gone into the Programme, and there's about $3.5 million gone into the UN Programme, and there's about $3.5 million gone into the UN Development million gone into the UN Development Programme million gone into the UN Development Programme around million gone into the UN Development Programme around technical Programme around technical assistance Programme around technical assistance for Programme around technical assistance for demining Programme around technical assistance for demining support. assistance for demining support. Would assistance for demining support. Would he assistance for demining support. Would he agree assistance for demining support. Would he agree that assistance for demining support. Would he agree that the assistance for demining support. Would he agree that the money assistance for demining support. Would he agree that the money we Would he agree that the money we spend Would he agree that the money we spend on Would he agree that the money we spend on these Would he agree that the money we spend on these military Would he agree that the money we spend on these military deployments spend on these military deployments would spend on these military deployments would be spend on these military deployments would be better spend on these military deployments would be better spent spend on these military deployments would be better spent on would be better spent on humanitarian would be better spent on humanitarian aid would be better spent on humanitarian aid and would be better spent on humanitarian aid and reconstruction? humanitarian aid and reconstruction? I humanitarian aid and reconstruction? I guess humanitarian aid and reconstruction? I guess a humanitarian aid and reconstruction? I guess a quick humanitarian aid and reconstruction? I guess a quick add-up humanitarian aid and reconstruction? I guess a quick add-up of humanitarian aid and reconstruction? I guess a quick add-up of the humanitarian aid and reconstruction? I guess a quick add-up of the cost I guess a quick add-up of the cost of I guess a quick add-up of the cost of all I guess a quick add-up of the cost of all of I guess a quick add-up of the cost of all of the I guess a quick add-up of the cost of all of the deployments I guess a quick add-up of the cost of all of the deployments that I guess a quick add-up of the cost of all of the deployments that the of all of the deployments that the Government of all of the deployments that the Government has of all of the deployments that the Government has just of all of the deployments that the Government has just announced of all of the deployments that the Government has just announced comes Government has just announced comes to Government has just announced comes to a Government has just announced comes to a grand Government has just announced comes to a grand total Government has just announced comes to a grand total of Government has just announced comes to a grand total of about Government has just announced comes to a grand total of about $31.4 to a grand total of about $31.4 million. to a grand total of about $31.4 million. Bearing to a grand total of about $31.4 million. Bearing in to a grand total of about $31.4 million. Bearing in mind to a grand total of about $31.4 million. Bearing in mind that to a grand total of about $31.4 million. Bearing in mind that a million. Bearing in mind that a couple million. Bearing in mind that a couple of million. Bearing in mind that a couple of those million. Bearing in mind that a couple of those deployments million. Bearing in mind that a couple of those deployments are million. Bearing in mind that a couple of those deployments are for couple of those deployments are for two couple of those deployments are for two years, couple of those deployments are for two years, not couple of those deployments are for two years, not one couple of those deployments are for two years, not one year. couple of those deployments are for two years, not one year. Ultimately, two years, not one year. Ultimately, the two years, not one year. Ultimately, the Government two years, not one year. Ultimately, the Government will, two years, not one year. Ultimately, the Government will, in two years, not one year. Ultimately, the Government will, in time two years, not one year. Ultimately, the Government will, in time - two years, not one year. Ultimately, the Government will, in time - and two years, not one year. Ultimately, the Government will, in time - and I the Government will, in time - and I think the Government will, in time - and I think next the Government will, in time - and I think next year the Government will, in time - and I think next year - the Government will, in time - and I think next year - look the Government will, in time - and I think next year - look at the Government will, in time - and I think next year - look at how the Government will, in time - and I think next year - look at how we the Government will, in time - and I think next year - look at how we can think next year - look at how we can make think next year - look at how we can make a think next year - look at how we can make a contribution. think next year - look at how we can make a contribution. It think next year - look at how we can make a contribution. It may think next year - look at how we can make a contribution. It may well think next year - look at how we can make a contribution. It may well be make a contribution. It may well be that make a contribution. It may well be that there make a contribution. It may well be that there may make a contribution. It may well be that there may not make a contribution. It may well be that there may not be make a contribution. It may well be that there may not be a make a contribution. It may well be that there may not be a military that there may not be a military contribution that there may not be a military contribution - that there may not be a military contribution - the that there may not be a military contribution - the focus that there may not be a military contribution - the focus may that there may not be a military contribution - the focus may be that there may not be a military contribution - the focus may be on contribution - the focus may be on humanitarian contribution - the focus may be on humanitarian assistance. contribution - the focus may be on humanitarian assistance. Of contribution - the focus may be on humanitarian assistance. Of course, humanitarian assistance. Of course, we'd humanitarian assistance. Of course, we'd like humanitarian assistance. Of course, we'd like to humanitarian assistance. Of course, we'd like to build humanitarian assistance. Of course, we'd like to build hospitals. humanitarian assistance. Of course, we'd like to build hospitals. Of we'd like to build hospitals. Of course, we'd like to build hospitals. Of course, we'd we'd like to build hospitals. Of course, we'd like we'd like to build hospitals. Of course, we'd like to we'd like to build hospitals. Of course, we'd like to help we'd like to build hospitals. Of course, we'd like to help build course, we'd like to help build schools. course, we'd like to help build schools. Of course, we'd like to help build schools. Of course, course, we'd like to help build schools. Of course, we'd course, we'd like to help build schools. Of course, we'd like course, we'd like to help build schools. Of course, we'd like to schools. Of course, we'd like to help schools. Of course, we'd like to help re-establish schools. Of course, we'd like to help re-establish the help re-establish the infrastructure. help re-establish the infrastructure. Iraq help re-establish the infrastructure. Iraq is help re-establish the infrastructure. Iraq is looking, help re-establish the infrastructure. Iraq is looking, in infrastructure. Iraq is looking, in particular, infrastructure. Iraq is looking, in particular, at infrastructure. Iraq is looking, in particular, at a infrastructure. Iraq is looking, in particular, at a $100 infrastructure. Iraq is looking, in particular, at a $100 billion infrastructure. Iraq is looking, in particular, at a $100 billion bill particular, at a $100 billion bill for particular, at a $100 billion bill for reconstruction. particular, at a $100 billion bill for reconstruction. But particular, at a $100 billion bill for reconstruction. But $31.4 for reconstruction. But $31.4 million for reconstruction. But $31.4 million is for reconstruction. But $31.4 million is not for reconstruction. But $31.4 million is not going for reconstruction. But $31.4 million is not going to for reconstruction. But $31.4 million is not going to build for reconstruction. But $31.4 million is not going to build a for reconstruction. But $31.4 million is not going to build a new million is not going to build a new school million is not going to build a new school - million is not going to build a new school - it's million is not going to build a new school - it's not million is not going to build a new school - it's not going million is not going to build a new school - it's not going to million is not going to build a new school - it's not going to build million is not going to build a new school - it's not going to build a school - it's not going to build a new school - it's not going to build a new hospital. school - it's not going to build a new hospital. And school - it's not going to build a new hospital. And it's school - it's not going to build a new hospital. And it's not school - it's not going to build a new hospital. And it's not going school - it's not going to build a new hospital. And it's not going to new hospital. And it's not going to rebuild new hospital. And it's not going to rebuild the new hospital. And it's not going to rebuild the infrastructure. new hospital. And it's not going to rebuild the infrastructure. It new hospital. And it's not going to rebuild the infrastructure. It can rebuild the infrastructure. It can make rebuild the infrastructure. It can make a rebuild the infrastructure. It can make a substantive rebuild the infrastructure. It can make a substantive difference rebuild the infrastructure. It can make a substantive difference to rebuild the infrastructure. It can make a substantive difference to the make a substantive difference to the NGO make a substantive difference to the NGO whose make a substantive difference to the NGO whose are make a substantive difference to the NGO whose are delivering make a substantive difference to the NGO whose are delivering that make a substantive difference to the NGO whose are delivering that sort NGO whose are delivering that sort of NGO whose are delivering that sort of support NGO whose are delivering that sort of support in NGO whose are delivering that sort of support in there NGO whose are delivering that sort of support in there by NGO whose are delivering that sort of support in there by enhancing of support in there by enhancing security. of support in there by enhancing security. Question of support in there by enhancing security. Question No. of support in there by enhancing security. Question No. 5, of support in there by enhancing security. Question No. 5, the of support in there by enhancing security. Question No. 5, the Hon security. Question No. 5, the Hon Amy security. Question No. 5, the Hon Amy Adams. 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In which is what we saw for the last nine years." In answer which is what we saw for the last nine years." In answer to which is what we saw for the last nine years." In answer to the which is what we saw for the last nine years." In answer to the second nine years." In answer to the second part nine years." In answer to the second part of nine years." In answer to the second part of the nine years." In answer to the second part of the question nine years." In answer to the second part of the question - nine years." In answer to the second part of the question - I nine years." In answer to the second part of the question - I will nine years." In answer to the second part of the question - I will await part of the question - I will await the part of the question - I will await the quarterly part of the question - I will await the quarterly results part of the question - I will await the quarterly results before part of the question - I will await the quarterly results before passing the quarterly results before passing judgement. the quarterly results before passing judgement. Has the quarterly results before passing judgement. Has he the quarterly results before passing judgement. Has he also the quarterly results before passing judgement. Has he also been the quarterly results before passing judgement. Has he also been given the quarterly results before passing judgement. Has he also been given a judgement. Has he also been given a hint judgement. Has he also been given a hint on judgement. Has he also been given a hint on the judgement. Has he also been given a hint on the upcoming judgement. Has he also been given a hint on the upcoming GDP judgement. Has he also been given a hint on the upcoming GDP numbers, judgement. Has he also been given a hint on the upcoming GDP numbers, as hint on the upcoming GDP numbers, as the hint on the upcoming GDP numbers, as the PM hint on the upcoming GDP numbers, as the PM said hint on the upcoming GDP numbers, as the PM said this hint on the upcoming GDP numbers, as the PM said this morning hint on the upcoming GDP numbers, as the PM said this morning that hint on the upcoming GDP numbers, as the PM said this morning that she the PM said this morning that she had? the PM said this morning that she had? No. the PM said this morning that she had? No. Has the PM said this morning that she had? No. Has he the PM said this morning that she had? No. Has he seen the PM said this morning that she had? No. Has he seen reports the PM said this morning that she had? No. Has he seen reports this had? No. Has he seen reports this morning had? No. Has he seen reports this morning that had? No. Has he seen reports this morning that the had? No. Has he seen reports this morning that the New had? No. Has he seen reports this morning that the New Zealand had? No. Has he seen reports this morning that the New Zealand dollar morning that the New Zealand dollar gained morning that the New Zealand dollar gained after morning that the New Zealand dollar gained after PM morning that the New Zealand dollar gained after PM Jacinda morning that the New Zealand dollar gained after PM Jacinda Ardern morning that the New Zealand dollar gained after PM Jacinda Ardern said gained after PM Jacinda Ardern said she gained after PM Jacinda Ardern said she was gained after PM Jacinda Ardern said she was "pretty gained after PM Jacinda Ardern said she was "pretty pleased" gained after PM Jacinda Ardern said she was "pretty pleased" with gained after PM Jacinda Ardern said she was "pretty pleased" with the she was "pretty pleased" with the upcoming she was "pretty pleased" with the upcoming GDP she was "pretty pleased" with the upcoming GDP numbers? she was "pretty pleased" with the upcoming GDP numbers? The she was "pretty pleased" with the upcoming GDP numbers? The New upcoming GDP numbers? The New Zealand upcoming GDP numbers? The New Zealand dollar upcoming GDP numbers? The New Zealand dollar has upcoming GDP numbers? The New Zealand dollar has fluctuated Zealand dollar has fluctuated throughout Zealand dollar has fluctuated throughout the Zealand dollar has fluctuated throughout the morning, Zealand dollar has fluctuated throughout the morning, as Zealand dollar has fluctuated throughout the morning, as it Zealand dollar has fluctuated throughout the morning, as it does throughout the morning, as it does on throughout the morning, as it does on most throughout the morning, as it does on most days. throughout the morning, as it does on most days. I've throughout the morning, as it does on most days. I've also throughout the morning, as it does on most days. I've also seen throughout the morning, as it does on most days. I've also seen the on most days. I've also seen the PM's on most days. I've also seen the PM's statement on most days. I've also seen the PM's statement that on most days. I've also seen the PM's statement that she on most days. I've also seen the PM's statement that she was PM's statement that she was referencing PM's statement that she was referencing the PM's statement that she was referencing the unaudited PM's statement that she was referencing the unaudited Government referencing the unaudited Government statements. referencing the unaudited Government statements. Does referencing the unaudited Government statements. Does she referencing the unaudited Government statements. Does she think referencing the unaudited Government statements. Does she think it's statements. Does she think it's acceptable statements. Does she think it's acceptable for statements. Does she think it's acceptable for any statements. Does she think it's acceptable for any core statements. Does she think it's acceptable for any core economic acceptable for any core economic statistics acceptable for any core economic statistics to acceptable for any core economic statistics to be acceptable for any core economic statistics to be indicated acceptable for any core economic statistics to be indicated to acceptable for any core economic statistics to be indicated to the statistics to be indicated to the market statistics to be indicated to the market ahead statistics to be indicated to the market ahead of statistics to be indicated to the market ahead of their statistics to be indicated to the market ahead of their official market ahead of their official release? market ahead of their official release? There market ahead of their official release? There is market ahead of their official release? There is an market ahead of their official release? There is an awful market ahead of their official release? There is an awful lot market ahead of their official release? There is an awful lot of release? There is an awful lot of speculation release? There is an awful lot of speculation about release? There is an awful lot of speculation about economic speculation about economic statistics. speculation about economic statistics. We speculation about economic statistics. We see speculation about economic statistics. We see new speculation about economic statistics. We see new economic statistics. We see new economic statistics statistics. We see new economic statistics listed statistics. We see new economic statistics listed every statistics. We see new economic statistics listed every day. statistics. We see new economic statistics listed every day. As statistics. We see new economic statistics listed every day. As with statistics listed every day. As with every statistics listed every day. As with every previous statistics listed every day. As with every previous PM statistics listed every day. As with every previous PM and statistics listed every day. As with every previous PM and Finance every previous PM and Finance Minister, every previous PM and Finance Minister, we every previous PM and Finance Minister, we of every previous PM and Finance Minister, we of course every previous PM and Finance Minister, we of course get every previous PM and Finance Minister, we of course get material Minister, we of course get material from Minister, we of course get material from The Minister, we of course get material from The Treasury Minister, we of course get material from The Treasury on Minister, we of course get material from The Treasury on a Minister, we of course get material from The Treasury on a regular Minister, we of course get material from The Treasury on a regular basis from The Treasury on a regular basis before from The Treasury on a regular basis before it's from The Treasury on a regular basis before it's announced. from The Treasury on a regular basis before it's announced. The from The Treasury on a regular basis before it's announced. The Rt from The Treasury on a regular basis before it's announced. The Rt Hon before it's announced. The Rt Hon Winston before it's announced. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. before it's announced. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. For before it's announced. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. For the before it's announced. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. For the benefit before it's announced. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. For the benefit of Winston Peters. For the benefit of the Winston Peters. For the benefit of the primary Winston Peters. For the benefit of the primary questioner, Winston Peters. For the benefit of the primary questioner, would Winston Peters. For the benefit of the primary questioner, would he the primary questioner, would he tell the primary questioner, would he tell her the primary questioner, would he tell her the the primary questioner, would he tell her the difference the primary questioner, would he tell her the difference between... tell her the difference between... Order. tell her the difference between... Order. I'm tell her the difference between... Order. I'm going tell her the difference between... Order. I'm going to tell her the difference between... Order. I'm going to ask tell her the difference between... Order. I'm going to ask the tell her the difference between... Order. I'm going to ask the Deputy Order. I'm going to ask the Deputy PM Order. I'm going to ask the Deputy PM to Order. I'm going to ask the Deputy PM to start Order. I'm going to ask the Deputy PM to start that Order. I'm going to ask the Deputy PM to start that question Order. I'm going to ask the Deputy PM to start that question again. Order. I'm going to ask the Deputy PM to start that question again. We PM to start that question again. We don't PM to start that question again. We don't do PM to start that question again. We don't do things PM to start that question again. We don't do things for PM to start that question again. We don't do things for the PM to start that question again. We don't do things for the benefit PM to start that question again. We don't do things for the benefit of don't do things for the benefit of individual don't do things for the benefit of individual members don't do things for the benefit of individual members here. don't do things for the benefit of individual members here. I don't do things for the benefit of individual members here. I was don't do things for the benefit of individual members here. I was just individual members here. I was just trying individual members here. I was just trying to individual members here. I was just trying to be individual members here. I was just trying to be helpful, individual members here. I was just trying to be helpful, Mr individual members here. I was just trying to be helpful, Mr Speaker. trying to be helpful, Mr Speaker. Thank trying to be helpful, Mr Speaker. Thank you. trying to be helpful, Mr Speaker. Thank you. Would trying to be helpful, Mr Speaker. Thank you. Would the trying to be helpful, Mr Speaker. Thank you. Would the Minister trying to be helpful, Mr Speaker. Thank you. Would the Minister of Thank you. Would the Minister of Finance Thank you. Would the Minister of Finance point Thank you. Would the Minister of Finance point out Thank you. Would the Minister of Finance point out the Thank you. Would the Minister of Finance point out the great Finance point out the great difference Finance point out the great difference there Finance point out the great difference there is Finance point out the great difference there is between Finance point out the great difference there is between the difference there is between the Crown difference there is between the Crown Financial difference there is between the Crown Financial Accounts difference there is between the Crown Financial Accounts and difference there is between the Crown Financial Accounts and basic Crown Financial Accounts and basic GDP Crown Financial Accounts and basic GDP figures? Crown Financial Accounts and basic GDP figures? Absolutely, Crown Financial Accounts and basic GDP figures? Absolutely, Mr Crown Financial Accounts and basic GDP figures? Absolutely, Mr Speaker. GDP figures? Absolutely, Mr Speaker. So GDP figures? Absolutely, Mr Speaker. So the GDP figures? Absolutely, Mr Speaker. So the Crown GDP figures? Absolutely, Mr Speaker. So the Crown Financial GDP figures? Absolutely, Mr Speaker. So the Crown Financial Accounts GDP figures? Absolutely, Mr Speaker. 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I have to say I appreciate the member's concern for appreciate the member's concern for the appreciate the member's concern for the speedy appreciate the member's concern for the speedy progress appreciate the member's concern for the speedy progress that appreciate the member's concern for the speedy progress that is appreciate the member's concern for the speedy progress that is being the speedy progress that is being made the speedy progress that is being made in the speedy progress that is being made in the the speedy progress that is being made in the Mt the speedy progress that is being made in the Mt Roskill the speedy progress that is being made in the Mt Roskill development. made in the Mt Roskill development. The made in the Mt Roskill development. The houses made in the Mt Roskill development. The houses are made in the Mt Roskill development. The houses are actually made in the Mt Roskill development. The houses are actually already The houses are actually already being The houses are actually already being built. The houses are actually already being built. There The houses are actually already being built. There is The houses are actually already being built. There is demolition being built. There is demolition under being built. There is demolition under way, being built. There is demolition under way, infrastructure being built. There is demolition under way, infrastructure is being built. 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And we're going being built and KiwiBuild are being built. And we're going to being built and KiwiBuild are being built. And we're going to roll being built and KiwiBuild are being built. And we're going to roll out built. And we're going to roll out that built. And we're going to roll out that build built. And we're going to roll out that build programme built. And we're going to roll out that build programme in built. And we're going to roll out that build programme in Roskill that build programme in Roskill around that build programme in Roskill around the that build programme in Roskill around the construction that build programme in Roskill around the construction of that build programme in Roskill around the construction of the that build programme in Roskill around the construction of the light around the construction of the light rail around the construction of the light rail line, around the construction of the light rail line, which around the construction of the light rail line, which is around the construction of the light rail line, which is going around the construction of the light rail line, which is going to around the construction of the light rail line, which is going to serve rail line, which is going to serve that rail line, which is going to serve that community, rail line, which is going to serve that community, and rail line, which is going to serve that community, and in 10 rail line, which is going to serve that community, and in 10 years' that community, and in 10 years' time that community, and in 10 years' time we that community, and in 10 years' time we will that community, and in 10 years' time we will have that community, and in 10 years' time we will have built that community, and in 10 years' time we will have built 10,000 that community, and in 10 years' time we will have built 10,000 new time we will have built 10,000 new homes time we will have built 10,000 new homes in time we will have built 10,000 new homes in that time we will have built 10,000 new homes in that community. homes in that community. 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Needless houses are not being built? Needless to houses are not being built? Needless to say, houses are not being built? Needless to say, Mr houses are not being built? Needless to say, Mr Speaker, houses are not being built? Needless to say, Mr Speaker, I houses are not being built? Needless to say, Mr Speaker, I reject houses are not being built? 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Question Question No.7. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of State My question is to the Minister of State Services: My question is to the Minister of State Services: Is My question is to the Minister of State Services: Is the My question is to the Minister of State Services: Is the Government State Services: Is the Government working State Services: Is the Government working to State Services: Is the Government working to improve State Services: Is the Government working to improve and State Services: Is the Government working to improve and modernise State Services: Is the Government working to improve and modernise the working to improve and modernise the way working to improve and modernise the way that working to improve and modernise the way that the working to improve and modernise the way that the Public working to improve and modernise the way that the Public Service way that the Public Service operates; way that the Public Service operates; if way that the Public Service operates; if so, way that the Public Service operates; if so, how? 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We want to see Zealand public service in 30 years. We want to see public Zealand public service in 30 years. We want to see public service Zealand public service in 30 years. We want to see public service that We want to see public service that We We want to see public service that operates as one We want to see public service that operates as one joined We want to see public service that operates as one joined up We want to see public service that operates as one joined up system We want to see public service that operates as one joined up system to operates as one joined up system to tackle operates as one joined up system to tackle the operates as one joined up system to tackle the big, operates as one joined up system to tackle the big, complex operates as one joined up system to tackle the big, complex challenges tackle the big, complex challenges facing tackle the big, complex challenges facing New tackle the big, complex challenges facing New Zealand tackle the big, complex challenges facing New Zealand and tackle the big, complex challenges facing New Zealand and we tackle the big, complex challenges facing New Zealand and we want tackle the big, complex challenges facing New Zealand and we want much facing New Zealand and we want much more facing New Zealand and we want much more convenient facing New Zealand and we want much more convenient public facing New Zealand and we want much more convenient public services facing New Zealand and we want much more convenient public services that more convenient public services that puts more convenient public services that puts citizens more convenient public services that puts citizens at more convenient public services that puts citizens at the more convenient public services that puts citizens at the centre more convenient public services that puts citizens at the centre of puts citizens at the centre of puts citizens at the centre of puts citizens at the centre of service delivery. puts citizens at the centre of service delivery. What's puts citizens at the centre of service delivery. What's a puts citizens at the centre of service delivery. What's a practical service delivery. What's a practical service delivery. What's a practical service delivery. What's a practical example of service delivery. What's a practical example of how service delivery. What's a practical example of how this service delivery. What's a practical example of how this is service delivery. What's a practical example of how this is likely service delivery. What's a practical example of how this is likely to example of how this is likely to make example of how this is likely to make a example of how this is likely to make a difference example of how this is likely to make a difference for example of how this is likely to make a difference for the example of how this is likely to make a difference for the average make a difference for the average New make a difference for the average New Zealander? make a difference for the average New Zealander? One make a difference for the average New Zealander? One practical make a difference for the average New Zealander? One practical example New Zealander? One practical example of New Zealander? One practical example of how New Zealander? One practical example of how public New Zealander? One practical example of how public services New Zealander? One practical example of how public services can New Zealander? 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There are at least a dozen occasions in somebody's lives where occasions in somebody's lives where they occasions in somebody's lives where they require occasions in somebody's lives where they require major occasions in somebody's lives where they require major interactions they require major interactions with they require major interactions they require major interactions with the Government, they require major interactions with the Government, the they require major interactions with the Government, the birth they require major interactions with the Government, the birth of they require major interactions with the Government, the birth of a the Government, the birth of a child, the Government, the birth of a child, moving the Government, the birth of a child, moving house, the Government, the birth of a child, moving house, moving the Government, the birth of a child, moving house, moving jobs, child, moving house, moving jobs, retirement, child, moving house, moving jobs, retirement, the child, moving house, moving jobs, retirement, the death child, moving house, moving jobs, retirement, the death of child, moving house, moving jobs, retirement, the death of a child, moving house, moving jobs, retirement, the death of a close retirement, the death of a close family retirement, the death of a close family member retirement, the death of a close family member to retirement, the death of a close family member to name retirement, the death of a close family member to name some retirement, the death of a close family member to name some examples. family member to name some examples. 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How are the working Government would be much better for citizens. How are the working lives citizens. How are the working lives of citizens. How are the working lives of public citizens. How are the working lives of public servants citizens. How are the working lives of public servants likely citizens. How are the working lives of public servants likely to citizens. How are the working lives of public servants likely to be of public servants likely to be improved? of public servants likely to be improved? We're of public servants likely to be improved? We're committed of public servants likely to be improved? We're committed to of public servants likely to be improved? We're committed to an improved? We're committed to an impartial improved? We're committed to an impartial politically improved? We're committed to an impartial politically neutral improved? We're committed to an impartial politically neutral public impartial politically neutral public service impartial politically neutral public service that impartial politically neutral public service that will impartial politically neutral public service that will enable impartial politically neutral public service that will enable successive service that will enable successive Governments service that will enable successive Governments to service that will enable successive Governments to tackle service that will enable successive Governments to tackle the service that will enable successive Governments to tackle the big Governments to tackle the big challenges Governments to tackle the big challenges New Governments to tackle the big challenges New Zealand Governments to tackle the big challenges New Zealand faces Governments to tackle the big challenges New Zealand faces in Governments to tackle the big challenges New Zealand faces in the challenges New Zealand faces in the reform challenges New Zealand faces in the reform process challenges New Zealand faces in the reform process will challenges New Zealand faces in the reform process will reflect challenges New Zealand faces in the reform process will reflect that. reform process will reflect that. Public reform process will reflect that. Public servants reform process will reflect that. Public servants will reform process will reflect that. Public servants will have reform process will reflect that. Public servants will have greater Public servants will have greater clarity Public servants will have greater clarity around Public servants will have greater clarity around their Public servants will have greater clarity around their roles Public servants will have greater clarity around their roles and clarity around their roles and importantly clarity around their roles and importantly obstacles clarity around their roles and importantly obstacles to clarity around their roles and importantly obstacles to them importantly obstacles to them importantly obstacles to them importantly obstacles to them working together importantly obstacles to them working together in importantly obstacles to them working together in a importantly obstacles to them working together in a connected importantly obstacles to them working together in a connected way working together in a connected way working together in a connected way working together in a connected way are to working together in a connected way are to provide working together in a connected way are to provide better working together in a connected way are to provide better services working together in a connected way are to provide better services to are to provide better services to New are to provide better services to New Zealanders are to provide better services to New Zealanders will are to provide better services to New Zealanders will be are to provide better services to New Zealanders will be broken are to provide better services to New Zealanders will be broken down. New Zealanders will be broken down. Yes New Zealanders will be broken down. Yes No.8. New New Zealanders New Zealanders will New Zealanders will be New Zealanders will be broken New Zealanders will be broken down. New Zealanders will be broken down. Yes New Zealanders will be broken down. Yes No.8. 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Has unless, of course, it has just now changed its mind. Has the unless, of course, it has just now changed its mind. Has the minister changed its mind. Has the minister consulted changed its mind. Has the minister consulted with changed its mind. Has the minister consulted with the changed its mind. Has the minister consulted with the ACT changed its mind. Has the minister consulted with the ACT Party? changed its mind. Has the minister consulted with the ACT Party? No, changed its mind. Has the minister consulted with the ACT Party? No, I consulted with the ACT Party? No, I have consulted with the ACT Party? No, I have not consulted with the ACT Party? No, I have not had consulted with the ACT Party? No, I have not had consultation consulted with the ACT Party? No, I have not had consultation but consulted with the ACT Party? 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INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: To INTERPRETER: To the INTERPRETER: To the Associate INTERPRETER: To the Associate Minister INTERPRETER: To the Associate Minister for INTERPRETER: To the Associate Minister for Pacific INTERPRETER: To the Associate Minister for Pacific Peoples. INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: To INTERPRETER: To the INTERPRETER: To the Associate INTERPRETER: To the Associate Minister INTERPRETER: To the Associate Minister for INTERPRETER: To the Associate Minister for Pacific INTERPRETER: To the Associate Minister for Pacific Peoples. Minister for Pacific Peoples. My Minister for Pacific Peoples. My question Minister for Pacific Peoples. My question is Minister for Pacific Peoples. My question is to Minister for Pacific Peoples. My question is to the Minister for Pacific Peoples. 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For Pacific women the come but there is still much to do. For Pacific women the pay come but there is still much to do. For Pacific women the pay gap come but there is still much to do. 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However, decision-making tables. However, things decision-making tables. However, things are decision-making tables. However, things are changing. decision-making tables. However, things are changing. This things are changing. This Government's things are changing. This Government's commitment things are changing. This Government's commitment to things are changing. This Government's commitment to things Government's commitment to things like Government's commitment to things like pay Government's commitment to things like pay equity, Government's commitment to things like pay equity, access Government's commitment to things like pay equity, access to like pay equity, access to upskilling like pay equity, access to upskilling and like pay equity, access to upskilling and training, like pay equity, access to upskilling and training, support like pay equity, access to upskilling and training, support for upskilling and training, support for families upskilling and training, support for families and upskilling and training, support for families and diversifying families and diversifying representation families and diversifying representation at families and diversifying representation at decision-making representation at decision-making tables representation at decision-making tables will representation at decision-making tables will make representation at decision-making tables will make a representation at decision-making tables will make a difference representation at decision-making tables will make a difference to tables will make a difference to further tables will make a difference to representation tables will make a difference to further advancing Pacific tables will make a difference to further advancing Pacific women. further advancing Pacific women. Supplementary further advancing Pacific women. Supplementary question. further advancing Pacific women. Supplementary question. Why further advancing Pacific women. Supplementary question. Why is further advancing Pacific women. Supplementary question. Why is it Supplementary question. Why is it important Supplementary question. Why is it important that Supplementary question. Why is it important that Pacific Supplementary question. Why is it important that Pacific women Supplementary question. Why is it important that Pacific women are important that Pacific women are supported important that Pacific women are supported into important that Pacific women are supported into leadership important that Pacific women are supported into leadership positions supported into leadership positions here supported into leadership positions here in supported into leadership positions here in Aotearoa supported into leadership positions here in Aotearoa and supported into leadership positions here in Aotearoa and in supported into leadership positions here in Aotearoa and in the supported into leadership positions here in Aotearoa and in the Pacific here in Aotearoa and in the Pacific region? here in Aotearoa and in the Pacific region? An here in Aotearoa and in the Pacific region? An initiative here in Aotearoa and in the Pacific region? An initiative led here in Aotearoa and in the Pacific region? An initiative led by here in Aotearoa and in the Pacific region? 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An initiative led by the Australian Government to grow women Australian Government to grow women leaders Australian Government to grow women leaders in Australian Government to grow women leaders in the Australian Government to grow women leaders in the Pacific Australian Government to grow women leaders in the Pacific shows Australian Government to grow women leaders in the Pacific shows that leaders in the Pacific shows that supporting leaders in the Pacific shows that supporting women's leaders in the Pacific shows that supporting women's leadership leaders in the Pacific shows that supporting women's leadership is leaders in the Pacific shows that supporting women's leadership is key supporting women's leadership is key to supporting women's leadership is key to reducing supporting women's leadership is key to reducing poverty, supporting women's leadership is key to reducing poverty, promoting to reducing poverty, promoting economic to reducing poverty, promoting supporting to reducing poverty, promoting economic growth and to reducing poverty, promoting economic growth and democracy to reducing poverty, promoting economic growth and democracy and economic growth and democracy and economic growth and democracy and economic growth and democracy and increasing the economic growth and democracy and increasing the wellbeing economic growth and democracy and increasing the wellbeing of economic growth and democracy and increasing the wellbeing of women, increasing the wellbeing of women, girls increasing the wellbeing of women, girls and increasing the wellbeing of women, girls and their increasing the wellbeing of women, girls and their families. increasing the wellbeing of women, girls and their families. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of State My question is to the Minister of State Services: My question is to the Minister of State Services: What My question is to the Minister of State Services: What was My question is to the Minister of State Services: What was the My question is to the Minister of State Services: What was the date My question is to the Minister of State Services: What was the date of State Services: What was the date of all State Services: What was the date of all communications State Services: What was the date of all communications between State Services: What was the date of all communications between Ministers all communications between Ministers and all communications between Ministers and Derek all communications between Ministers and Derek Handley all communications between Ministers and Derek Handley regarding all communications between Ministers and Derek Handley regarding the and Derek Handley regarding the appointment and Derek Handley regarding the appointment of and Derek Handley regarding the appointment of the and Derek Handley regarding the appointment of the Government's appointment of the Government's Chief appointment of the Government's Chief Technology appointment of the Government's Chief Technology Officer appointment of the Government's Chief Technology Officer in appointment of the Government's Chief Technology Officer in addition Chief Technology Officer in addition to Chief Technology Officer in addition to those Chief Technology Officer in addition to those publically Chief Technology Officer in addition to those publically released Chief Technology Officer in addition to those publically released by Chief Technology Officer in addition to those publically released by the to those publically released by the previous to those publically released by the previous Minister to those publically released by the previous Minister for to those publically released by the previous Minister for Government previous Minister for Government Digital previous Minister for Government Digital Services previous Minister for Government Digital Services and previous Minister for Government Digital Services and up previous Minister for Government Digital Services and up to previous Minister for Government Digital Services and up to the previous Minister for Government Digital Services and up to the time Digital Services and up to the time Mr Digital Services and up to the time Mr Handley Digital Services and up to the time Mr Handley accepted Digital Services and up to the time Mr Handley accepted the Digital Services and up to the time Mr Handley accepted the role? 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Clare Curran has had no communication with Derek Handley. Clare Curran has advised had no communication with Derek Handley. Clare Curran has advised me Handley. Clare Curran has advised me that Handley. Clare Curran has advised me that she Handley. Clare Curran has advised me that she had Handley. Clare Curran has advised me that she had communications Handley. 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Was the job offer to Mr Derek Handley in August made Mr Derek Handley in August made through Mr Derek Handley in August made through Clare Mr Derek Handley in August made through Clare Curran's Mr Derek Handley in August made through Clare Curran's private Mr Derek Handley in August made through Clare Curran's private Gmail through Clare Curran's private Gmail account? through Clare Curran's private Gmail account? I through Clare Curran's private Gmail account? I understand through Clare Curran's private Gmail account? I understand it through Clare Curran's private Gmail account? I understand it was through Clare Curran's private Gmail account? I understand it was made account? I understand it was made during account? I understand it was made during a account? I understand it was made during a phone account? I understand it was made during a phone conversation account? 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Will that led to her resignation from the portfolio. Will he that led to her resignation from the portfolio. Will he apologise that led to her resignation from the portfolio. Will he apologise to portfolio. Will he apologise to taxpayers portfolio. Will he apologise to taxpayers on portfolio. Will he apologise to taxpayers on behalf portfolio. Will he apologise to taxpayers on behalf of portfolio. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Civil My question is to the Minister of Civil Defence: My question is to the Minister of Civil Defence: What My question is to the Minister of Civil Defence: What recent Civil Defence: What recent announcements Civil Defence: What recent announcements has Civil Defence: What recent announcements has the Civil Defence: What recent announcements has the Government announcements has the Government made announcements has the Government made to announcements has the Government made to improve announcements has the Government made to improve New announcements has the Government made to improve New Zealand's made to improve New Zealand's emergency made to improve New Zealand's emergency management made to improve New Zealand's emergency management system? Coup Coup The Coup The Hon Coup The Hon Kris Coup The Hon Kris Faafoi. Coup The Hon Kris Faafoi. Mr Coup The Hon Kris Faafoi. Mr Speaker, Coup The Hon Kris Faafoi. Mr Speaker, the Coup The Hon Kris Faafoi. Mr Speaker, the Government Coup The Hon Kris Faafoi. Mr Speaker, the Government has Coup The Hon Kris Faafoi. Mr Speaker, the Government has released Speaker, the Government has released its Speaker, the Government has released its response Speaker, the Government has released its response to Speaker, the Government has released its response to the Speaker, the Government has released its response to the ministerial its response to the ministerial technical its response to the ministerial technical advisory its response to the ministerial technical advisory group its response to the ministerial technical advisory group report its response to the ministerial technical advisory group report into technical advisory group report into improving technical advisory group report into improving emergency technical advisory group report into improving emergency management improving emergency management systems. improving emergency management systems. New improving emergency management systems. New funding improving emergency management systems. New funding of improving emergency management systems. New funding of $5.2 improving emergency management systems. New funding of $5.2 million systems. New funding of $5.2 million for systems. New funding of $5.2 million for specialist systems. New funding of $5.2 million for specialist rapid systems. New funding of $5.2 million for specialist rapid response systems. New funding of $5.2 million for specialist rapid response teams, for specialist rapid response teams, known for specialist rapid response teams, known as for specialist rapid response teams, known as fly-in for specialist rapid response teams, known as fly-in teams, for specialist rapid response teams, known as fly-in teams, has for specialist rapid response teams, known as fly-in teams, has been known as fly-in teams, has been allocated known as fly-in teams, has been allocated to known as fly-in teams, has been allocated to support known as fly-in teams, has been allocated to support communities known as fly-in teams, has been allocated to support communities in allocated to support communities in an allocated to support communities in an emergency. allocated to support communities in an emergency. A allocated to support communities in an emergency. A further allocated to support communities in an emergency. A further $1 allocated to support communities in an emergency. A further $1 million an emergency. A further $1 million in an emergency. A further $1 million in new an emergency. A further $1 million in new funding an emergency. A further $1 million in new funding will an emergency. A further $1 million in new funding will progress an emergency. A further $1 million in new funding will progress other in new funding will progress other initiatives, in new funding will progress other initiatives, including in new funding will progress other initiatives, including the in new funding will progress other initiatives, including the business initiatives, including the business case initiatives, including the business case for initiatives, including the business case for a initiatives, including the business case for a new initiatives, including the business case for a new emergency initiatives, including the business case for a new emergency management case for a new emergency management facility, case for a new emergency management facility, a case for a new emergency management facility, a common case for a new emergency management facility, a common operating case for a new emergency management facility, a common operating picture facility, a common operating picture across facility, a common operating picture across the facility, a common operating picture across the sector, facility, a common operating picture across the sector, and facility, a common operating picture across the sector, and work facility, a common operating picture across the sector, and work on across the sector, and work on legislative across the sector, and work on legislative changes across the sector, and work on legislative changes required. across the sector, and work on legislative changes required. Other legislative changes required. Other non-fiscal legislative changes required. Other non-fiscal reforms legislative changes required. Other non-fiscal reforms to legislative changes required. Other non-fiscal reforms to the legislative changes required. Other non-fiscal reforms to the emergency non-fiscal reforms to the emergency management non-fiscal reforms to the emergency management system non-fiscal reforms to the emergency management system are non-fiscal reforms to the emergency management system are also non-fiscal reforms to the emergency management system are also being management system are also being developed management system are also being developed to management system are also being developed to ensure management system are also being developed to ensure that management system are also being developed to ensure that all management system are also being developed to ensure that all New developed to ensure that all New Zealanders developed to ensure that all New Zealanders are developed to ensure that all New Zealanders are getting developed to ensure that all New Zealanders are getting consistent Zealanders are getting consistent support Zealanders are getting consistent support in Zealanders are getting consistent support in an Zealanders are getting consistent support in an emergency. support in an emergency. Supplementary. support in an emergency. Supplementary. How support in an emergency. Supplementary. How will support in an emergency. Supplementary. How will fly-in support in an emergency. Supplementary. How will fly-in teams Supplementary. How will fly-in teams help Supplementary. How will fly-in teams help in Supplementary. How will fly-in teams help in an Supplementary. How will fly-in teams help in an emergency Supplementary. How will fly-in teams help in an emergency response? Supplementary. How will fly-in teams help in an emergency response? A help in an emergency response? A fly-in help in an emergency response? A fly-in team help in an emergency response? A fly-in team will help in an emergency response? A fly-in team will be help in an emergency response? A fly-in team will be comprised help in an emergency response? A fly-in team will be comprised of fly-in team will be comprised of experienced fly-in team will be comprised of experienced emergency fly-in team will be comprised of experienced emergency management experienced emergency management personnel experienced emergency management personnel with experienced emergency management personnel with the experienced emergency management personnel with the appropriate personnel with the appropriate skills personnel with the appropriate skills and personnel with the appropriate skills and experience, personnel with the appropriate skills and experience, including skills and experience, including event skills and experience, including event controllers, skills and experience, including event controllers, fly-in skills and experience, including event controllers, fly-in teams skills and experience, including event controllers, fly-in teams will event controllers, fly-in teams will respond event controllers, fly-in teams will respond without event controllers, fly-in teams will respond without delay event controllers, fly-in teams will respond without delay wherever event controllers, fly-in teams will respond without delay wherever they respond without delay wherever they are respond without delay wherever they are required respond without delay wherever they are required to respond without delay wherever they are required to work respond without delay wherever they are required to work alongside respond without delay wherever they are required to work alongside and are required to work alongside and support are required to work alongside and support the are required to work alongside and support the local are required to work alongside and support the local teams are required to work alongside and support the local teams to are required to work alongside and support the local teams to ensure are required to work alongside and support the local teams to ensure a support the local teams to ensure a comprehensive support the local teams to ensure a comprehensive and support the local teams to ensure a comprehensive and immediate support the local teams to ensure a comprehensive and immediate response comprehensive and immediate response is comprehensive and immediate response is underway. comprehensive and immediate response is underway. The comprehensive and immediate response is underway. The $5.2 comprehensive and immediate response is underway. The $5.2 million comprehensive and immediate response is underway. The $5.2 million in is underway. The $5.2 million in funding is underway. The $5.2 million in funding will is underway. The $5.2 million in funding will resource is underway. The $5.2 million in funding will resource four is underway. The $5.2 million in funding will resource four teams, funding will resource four teams, each funding will resource four teams, each with funding will resource four teams, each with nine funding will resource four teams, each with nine staff funding will resource four teams, each with nine staff who funding will resource four teams, each with nine staff who hold each with nine staff who hold specialist each with nine staff who hold specialist emergency each with nine staff who hold specialist emergency management specialist emergency management skills. specialist emergency management skills. The specialist emergency management skills. The staff specialist emergency management skills. The staff will specialist emergency management skills. The staff will be specialist emergency management skills. The staff will be drawn specialist emergency management skills. The staff will be drawn from skills. The staff will be drawn from across skills. The staff will be drawn from across agencies skills. The staff will be drawn from across agencies and skills. The staff will be drawn from across agencies and civil skills. The staff will be drawn from across agencies and civil defence across agencies and civil defence groups across agencies and civil defence groups and across agencies and civil defence groups and be across agencies and civil defence groups and be ready across agencies and civil defence groups and be ready to across agencies and civil defence groups and be ready to respond across agencies and civil defence groups and be ready to respond when groups and be ready to respond when an groups and be ready to respond when an emergency groups and be ready to respond when an emergency strikes. groups and be ready to respond when an emergency strikes. The groups and be ready to respond when an emergency strikes. The deployment an emergency strikes. The deployment of an emergency strikes. The deployment of these an emergency strikes. The deployment of these teams an emergency strikes. The deployment of these teams will an emergency strikes. The deployment of these teams will not an emergency strikes. The deployment of these teams will not only of these teams will not only directly of these teams will not only directly assist of these teams will not only directly assist communities of these teams will not only directly assist communities during directly assist communities during disaster directly assist communities during disaster relief, directly assist communities during disaster relief, but directly assist communities during disaster relief, but support directly assist communities during disaster relief, but support local disaster relief, but support local civil disaster relief, but support local civil defence disaster relief, but support local civil defence groups disaster relief, but support local civil defence groups who disaster relief, but support local civil defence groups who work civil defence groups who work tirelessly, civil defence groups who work tirelessly, often civil defence groups who work tirelessly, often under civil defence groups who work tirelessly, often under tough tirelessly, often under tough conditions. tirelessly, often under tough conditions. Supplementary. tirelessly, often under tough conditions. Supplementary. What conditions. Supplementary. What other conditions. Supplementary. What other measures conditions. Supplementary. What other measures has conditions. Supplementary. What other measures has the conditions. Supplementary. What other measures has the Government other measures has the Government taken other measures has the Government taken to other measures has the Government taken to keep other measures has the Government taken to keep people other measures has the Government taken to keep people and other measures has the Government taken to keep people and property taken to keep people and property safe taken to keep people and property safe when taken to keep people and property safe when responding taken to keep people and property safe when responding to taken to keep people and property safe when responding to emergencies? safe when responding to emergencies? Mr safe when responding to emergencies? Mr Speaker, safe when responding to emergencies? Mr Speaker, the safe when responding to emergencies? Mr Speaker, the Government safe when responding to emergencies? Mr Speaker, the Government has Mr Speaker, the Government has responded Mr Speaker, the Government has responded to Mr Speaker, the Government has responded to each Mr Speaker, the Government has responded to each of Mr Speaker, the Government has responded to each of the Mr Speaker, the Government has responded to each of the 42 responded to each of the 42 recommendations responded to each of the 42 recommendations in responded to each of the 42 recommendations in the responded to each of the 42 recommendations in the report, recommendations in the report, agreeing recommendations in the report, agreeing to recommendations in the report, agreeing to implement recommendations in the report, agreeing to implement most recommendations in the report, agreeing to implement most of recommendations in the report, agreeing to implement most of them, agreeing to implement most of them, because agreeing to implement most of them, because we agreeing to implement most of them, because we need agreeing to implement most of them, because we need to agreeing to implement most of them, because we need to ensure agreeing to implement most of them, because we need to ensure our agreeing to implement most of them, because we need to ensure our system because we need to ensure our system is because we need to ensure our system is fit because we need to ensure our system is fit for because we need to ensure our system is fit for purpose because we need to ensure our system is fit for purpose right because we need to ensure our system is fit for purpose right now because we need to ensure our system is fit for purpose right now and because we need to ensure our system is fit for purpose right now and in is fit for purpose right now and in the is fit for purpose right now and in the years is fit for purpose right now and in the years ahead. is fit for purpose right now and in the years ahead. It is fit for purpose right now and in the years ahead. It is is fit for purpose right now and in the years ahead. It is important is fit for purpose right now and in the years ahead. It is important we the years ahead. It is important we are the years ahead. It is important we are robust the years ahead. It is important we are robust in the years ahead. It is important we are robust in our the years ahead. It is important we are robust in our response the years ahead. It is important we are robust in our response to the years ahead. It is important we are robust in our response to the are robust in our response to the recommendations, are robust in our response to the recommendations, because are robust in our response to the recommendations, because there are robust in our response to the recommendations, because there are recommendations, because there are lessons recommendations, because there are lessons to recommendations, because there are lessons to learn recommendations, because there are lessons to learn from recommendations, because there are lessons to learn from previous lessons to learn from previous emergencies. lessons to learn from previous emergencies. Among lessons to learn from previous emergencies. Among other lessons to learn from previous emergencies. Among other things, lessons to learn from previous emergencies. Among other things, I emergencies. Among other things, I want emergencies. Among other things, I want to emergencies. Among other things, I want to see emergencies. Among other things, I want to see the emergencies. Among other things, I want to see the significant emergencies. Among other things, I want to see the significant role emergencies. Among other things, I want to see the significant role of want to see the significant role of iwi want to see the significant role of iwi play want to see the significant role of iwi play in want to see the significant role of iwi play in emergency want to see the significant role of iwi play in emergency management iwi play in emergency management acknowledged iwi play in emergency management acknowledged and iwi play in emergency management acknowledged and incorporated iwi play in emergency management acknowledged and incorporated into acknowledged and incorporated into emergency acknowledged and incorporated into emergency planning. acknowledged and incorporated into emergency planning. I acknowledged and incorporated into emergency planning. I look acknowledged and incorporated into emergency planning. I look forward emergency planning. I look forward to emergency planning. I look forward to working emergency planning. I look forward to working with emergency planning. I look forward to working with community emergency planning. I look forward to working with community groups, to working with community groups, local to working with community groups, local government, to working with community groups, local government, iwi, to working with community groups, local government, iwi, cross-party local government, iwi, cross-party colleagues, local government, iwi, cross-party colleagues, and local government, iwi, cross-party colleagues, and the local government, iwi, cross-party colleagues, and the emergency colleagues, and the emergency management colleagues, and the emergency management sector colleagues, and the emergency management sector to colleagues, and the emergency management sector to realise colleagues, and the emergency management sector to realise this management sector to realise this plan. management sector to realise this plan. I management sector to realise this plan. I have management sector to realise this plan. I have received management sector to realise this plan. I have received a management sector to realise this plan. I have received a letter management sector to realise this plan. I have received a letter from plan. I have received a letter from the plan. I have received a letter from the Hon plan. I have received a letter from the Hon Paula plan. I have received a letter from the Hon Paula Bennett plan. I have received a letter from the Hon Paula Bennett seeking plan. I have received a letter from the Hon Paula Bennett seeking to the Hon Paula Bennett seeking to debate, the Hon Paula Bennett seeking to debate, under the Hon Paula Bennett seeking to debate, under Standing the Hon Paula Bennett seeking to debate, under Standing Order the Hon Paula Bennett seeking to debate, under Standing Order 389, debate, under Standing Order 389, the debate, under Standing Order 389, the Government's debate, under Standing Order 389, the Government's decision debate, under Standing Order 389, the Government's decision to debate, under Standing Order 389, the Government's decision to stop the Government's decision to stop the