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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. The The Leader The Leader of The Leader of the The Leader of the House. The Leader of the House. Next The Leader of the House. Next week The Leader of the House. Next week the The Leader of the House. Next week the Electoral The Leader of the House. Next week the Electoral (Integrity) The Leader of the House. Next week the Electoral (Integrity) Amendment the Electoral (Integrity) Amendment the Electoral (Integrity) Amendment the Electoral (Integrity) Amendment Bill will the Electoral (Integrity) Amendment Bill will complete the Electoral (Integrity) Amendment Bill will complete its the Electoral (Integrity) Amendment Bill will complete its remaining Bill will complete its remaining Bill will complete its remaining Bill will complete its remaining stages. The Bill will complete its remaining stages. The Mahuta Bill will complete its remaining stages. The Mahuta Maritime Bill will complete its remaining stages. The Mahuta Maritime Powers stages. The Mahuta Maritime Powers stages. 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The first reads of the Education Amendment Bill (No 2) will Education Amendment Bill (No 2) will be Education Amendment Bill (No 2) will be completed Education Amendment Bill (No 2) will be completed and Education Amendment Bill (No 2) will be completed and the Education Amendment Bill (No 2) will be completed and the equal Education Amendment Bill (No 2) will be completed and the equal pay Education Amendment Bill (No 2) will be completed and the equal pay bill be completed and the equal pay bill will be completed and the equal pay bill will be be completed and the equal pay bill will be completed. be completed and the equal pay bill will be completed. The be completed and the equal pay bill will be completed. The house be completed and the equal pay bill will be completed. The house will will be completed. The house will move will be completed. The house will move to will be completed. The house will move to extend will be completed. 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I thank pass under authority on Wednesday 26 September. I thank the pass under authority on Wednesday 26 September. I thank the acting pass under authority on Wednesday 26 September. I thank the acting Leader September. I thank the acting Leader of September. I thank the acting Leader of the September. I thank the acting Leader of the House September. I thank the acting Leader of the House for September. I thank the acting Leader of the House for quite September. I thank the acting Leader of the House for quite an September. I thank the acting Leader of the House for quite an extensive of the House for quite an extensive indication of the House for quite an extensive indication of of the House for quite an extensive indication of the of the House for quite an extensive indication of the programme of the House for quite an extensive indication of the programme next indication of the programme next week indication of the programme next week but indication of the programme next week but I indication of the programme next week but I would indication of the programme next week but I would point indication of the programme next week but I would point out indication of the programme next week but I would point out that week but I would point out that week but I would point out that week but I would point out that particularly with week but I would point out that particularly with regard week but I would point out that particularly with regard to week but I would point out that particularly with regard to the particularly with regard to the decision particularly with regard to the decision by particularly with regard to the decision by the particularly with regard to the decision by the Government particularly with regard to the decision by the Government to particularly with regard to the decision by the Government to take decision by the Government to take urgency decision by the Government to take urgency on decision by the Government to take urgency on a decision by the Government to take urgency on a bill decision by the Government to take urgency on a bill that decision by the Government to take urgency on a bill that we decision by the Government to take urgency on a bill that we had decision by the Government to take urgency on a bill that we had said urgency on a bill that we had said we urgency on a bill that we had said we would urgency on a bill that we had said we would be urgency on a bill that we had said we would be quite urgency on a bill that we had said we would be quite happy urgency on a bill that we had said we would be quite happy to urgency on a bill that we had said we would be quite happy to cooperate we would be quite happy to cooperate with, we would be quite happy to cooperate with, is we would be quite happy to cooperate with, is a we would be quite happy to cooperate with, is a little we would be quite happy to cooperate with, is a little disappointing we would be quite happy to cooperate with, is a little disappointing and with, is a little disappointing and I with, is a little disappointing and I think with, is a little disappointing and I think it with, is a little disappointing and I think it calls with, is a little disappointing and I think it calls into with, is a little disappointing and I think it calls into question with, is a little disappointing and I think it calls into question the I think it calls into question the purpose I think it calls into question the purpose of I think it calls into question the purpose of having I think it calls into question the purpose of having a I think it calls into question the purpose of having a Business purpose of having a Business Committee purpose of having a Business Committee operating purpose of having a Business Committee operating inside purpose of having a Business Committee operating inside the Committee operating inside the complex. 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Petitions have been delivered to Petitions have been delivered to have Petitions have been delivered to have been Petitions have been delivered to have been introduced. Petitions have been delivered to have been introduced. the Petitions have been delivered to have been introduced. the Clerk to have been introduced. the Clerk for to have been introduced. the Clerk for presentation. for presentation. Petition for presentation. Petition of for presentation. Petition of Ed for presentation. Petition of Ed Coutts for presentation. Petition of Ed Coutts requesting Petition of Ed Coutts requesting that Petition of Ed Coutts requesting that the Petition of Ed Coutts requesting that the House Petition of Ed Coutts requesting that the House investigate that the House investigate the that the House investigate the implementation the implementation of the implementation of the the implementation of the Auckland the implementation of the Auckland Council's of the Auckland Council's accommodation of the Auckland Council's accommodation provider accommodation provider targeted accommodation provider targeted rates accommodation provider targeted rates rating accommodation provider targeted rates rating system. targeted rates rating system. Petition targeted rates rating system. Petition of targeted rates rating system. Petition of Grace targeted rates rating system. Petition of Grace Teuila targeted rates rating system. 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Those for the Residential Care Subsidy. Those petitions for the Residential Care Subsidy. Those petitions stand for the Residential Care Subsidy. Those petitions stand referred Those petitions stand referred to Those petitions stand referred to a Those petitions stand referred to a select Those petitions stand referred to a select committee to a select committee allocated to a select committee allocated by to a select committee allocated by the to a select committee allocated by the Clerk. Ministers Ministers have Ministers have delivered Ministers have delivered papers. Ministers have delivered papers. Defence Ministers have delivered papers. Defence Force Ministers have delivered papers. Defence Force - Defence Force - Statement Defence Force - Statement of Defence Force - Statement of Intent Statement of Intent 2018/19 Statement of Intent 2018/19 to Statement of Intent 2018/19 to 2021/22. 2018/19 to 2021/22. I 2018/19 to 2021/22. I present 2018/19 to 2021/22. I present the 2018/19 to 2021/22. I present the report 2018/19 to 2021/22. I present the report of 2018/19 to 2021/22. I present the report of the I present the report of the Controller I present the report of the Controller and I present the report of the Controller and Auditor-General Controller and Auditor-General entitled Controller and Auditor-General entitled Managing Controller and Auditor-General entitled Managing the Controller and Auditor-General entitled Managing the supply Controller and Auditor-General entitled Managing the supply of Controller and Auditor-General entitled Managing the supply of and entitled Managing the supply of and demand entitled Managing the supply of and demand for entitled Managing the supply of and demand for drinking entitled Managing the supply of and demand for drinking water. demand for drinking water. Those demand for drinking water. Those papers demand for drinking water. Those papers are demand for drinking water. Those papers are published Those papers are published under Those papers are published under the Those papers are published under the authority Those papers are published under the authority of Those papers are published under the authority of the Those papers are published under the authority of the House. Select Select committee Select committee reports Select committee reports have Select committee reports have been Select committee reports have been delivered Select committee reports have been delivered for Select committee reports have been delivered for presentation. delivered for presentation. Justice delivered for presentation. Justice Committee delivered for presentation. 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The bill is set down The bill is set down for The bill is set down for second The bill is set down for second reading for second reading and for second reading and the for second reading and the Business for second reading and the Business Committee for second reading and the Business Committee report and the Business Committee report is and the Business Committee report is set and the Business Committee report is set down and the Business Committee report is set down for and the Business Committee report is set down for consideration. The The House The House comes The House comes to The House comes to Oral The House comes to Oral Questions. The House comes to Oral Questions. Question The House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. The House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. 1. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Housing My question is to the Minister of Housing and My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: Will Housing and Urban Development: Will he Housing and Urban Development: Will he commit Housing and Urban Development: Will he commit to Housing and Urban Development: Will he commit to ensuring Housing and Urban Development: Will he commit to ensuring that Housing and Urban Development: Will he commit to ensuring that the Housing and Urban Development: Will he commit to ensuring that the 800 he commit to ensuring that the 800 tenancies he commit to ensuring that the 800 tenancies terminated he commit to ensuring that the 800 tenancies terminated or he commit to ensuring that the 800 tenancies terminated or otherwise tenancies terminated or otherwise affected tenancies terminated or otherwise affected by tenancies terminated or otherwise affected by Housing tenancies terminated or otherwise affected by Housing New tenancies terminated or otherwise affected by Housing New Zealand's affected by Housing New Zealand's previous affected by Housing New Zealand's previous approach affected by Housing New Zealand's previous approach to affected by Housing New Zealand's previous approach to meth affected by Housing New Zealand's previous approach to meth testing previous approach to meth testing receive previous approach to meth testing receive compensation previous approach to meth testing receive compensation that previous approach to meth testing receive compensation that genuinely receive compensation that genuinely reflects receive compensation that genuinely reflects the receive compensation that genuinely reflects the level receive compensation that genuinely reflects the level of receive compensation that genuinely reflects the level of harm receive compensation that genuinely reflects the level of harm done, receive compensation that genuinely reflects the level of harm done, and reflects the level of harm done, and takes reflects the level of harm done, and takes account reflects the level of harm done, and takes account of reflects the level of harm done, and takes account of both reflects the level of harm done, and takes account of both direct reflects the level of harm done, and takes account of both direct costs takes account of both direct costs and takes account of both direct costs and emotional takes account of both direct costs and emotional distress? Yes, Yes, Housing Yes, Housing New Yes, Housing New Zealand Yes, Housing New Zealand has Yes, Housing New Zealand has outlined Yes, Housing New Zealand has outlined an Yes, Housing New Zealand has outlined an assistance Yes, Housing New Zealand has outlined an assistance package Yes, Housing New Zealand has outlined an assistance package that outlined an assistance package that is outlined an assistance package that is flexible outlined an assistance package that is flexible and outlined an assistance package that is flexible and will outlined an assistance package that is flexible and will take outlined an assistance package that is flexible and will take account outlined an assistance package that is flexible and will take account of is flexible and will take account of each is flexible and will take account of is is flexible and will take account of each tenant's individual each tenant's individual each tenant's individual each tenant's individual circumstances. It each tenant's individual circumstances. It will each tenant's individual circumstances. It will cover each tenant's individual circumstances. It will cover costs circumstances. It will cover costs incurred, circumstances. It will cover costs incurred, debt circumstances. It will cover costs incurred, debt that circumstances. It will cover costs incurred, debt that may circumstances. It will cover costs incurred, debt that may have circumstances. It will cover costs incurred, debt that may have been incurred, debt that may have been charged, incurred, debt that may have been charged, or incurred, debt that may have been charged, or processions incurred, debt that may have been charged, or processions that incurred, debt that may have been charged, or processions that may charged, or processions that may have charged, or processions that may have been charged, or processions that may have been lost charged, or processions that may have been lost but charged, or processions that may have been lost but will charged, or processions that may have been lost but will not charged, or processions that may have been lost but will not cover have been lost but will not cover emotional have been lost but will not cover emotional distress. have been lost but will not cover emotional distress. Other have been lost but will not cover emotional distress. Other forms have been lost but will not cover emotional distress. Other forms of emotional distress. Other forms of assistance emotional distress. Other forms of assistance will emotional distress. Other forms of assistance will focus emotional distress. Other forms of assistance will focus on emotional distress. Other forms of assistance will focus on activities assistance will focus on activities that assistance will focus on activities that Housing assistance will focus on activities that Housing New assistance will focus on activities that Housing New Zealand assistance will focus on activities that Housing New Zealand can assistance will focus on activities that Housing New Zealand can offer that Housing New Zealand can offer including that Housing New Zealand can offer including housing that Housing New Zealand can offer including housing affected that Housing New Zealand can offer including housing affected tenants including housing affected tenants on including housing affected tenants on the including housing affected tenants on the public including housing affected tenants on the public housing including housing affected tenants on the public housing register including housing affected tenants on the public housing register and on the public housing register and on the public housing register and on the public housing register and formally apologising on the public housing register and formally apologising to on the public housing register and formally apologising to tenants. on the public housing register and formally apologising to tenants. Is formally apologising to tenants. Is the formally apologising to tenants. Is the proposed formally apologising to tenants. Is the proposed payment formally apologising to tenants. Is the proposed payment of formally apologising to tenants. Is the proposed payment of between the proposed payment of between $2,500 the proposed payment of between $2,500 to the proposed payment of between $2,500 to $3,000 the proposed payment of between $2,500 to $3,000 only the proposed payment of between $2,500 to $3,000 only reimbursement $2,500 to $3,000 only reimbursement or $2,500 to $3,000 only reimbursement or is $2,500 to $3,000 only reimbursement or is it $2,500 to $3,000 only reimbursement or is it intended $2,500 to $3,000 only reimbursement or is it intended to $2,500 to $3,000 only reimbursement or is it intended to be $2,500 to $3,000 only reimbursement or is it intended to be compensation or is it intended to be compensation for or is it intended to be compensation for the or is it intended to be compensation for the harm or is it intended to be compensation for the harm suffered or is it intended to be compensation for the harm suffered by or is it intended to be compensation for the harm suffered by families for the harm suffered by families forced for the harm suffered by families forced out for the harm suffered by families forced out of for the harm suffered by families forced out of their for the harm suffered by families forced out of their homes for the harm suffered by families forced out of their homes through for the harm suffered by families forced out of their homes through no forced out of their homes through no fault forced out of their homes through no fault of forced out of their homes through no fault of their forced out of their homes through no fault of their own? forced out of their homes through no fault of their own? So forced out of their homes through no fault of their own? So the fault of their own? So the compensation fault of their own? So the compensation package fault of their own? So the compensation package that fault of their own? So the compensation package that will fault of their own? So the compensation package that will be compensation package that will be tailored compensation package that will be tailored to compensation package that will be tailored to the compensation package that will be tailored to the individual tailored to the individual circumstance tailored to the individual circumstance of tailored to the individual circumstance of tenants tailored to the individual circumstance of tenants could tailored to the individual circumstance of tenants could end tailored to the individual circumstance of tenants could end up circumstance of tenants could end up being circumstance of tenants could end up being several circumstance of tenants could end up being several thousand circumstance of tenants could end up being several thousand dollars circumstance of tenants could end up being several thousand dollars more being several thousand dollars more than being several thousand dollars more than the being several thousand dollars more than the base being several thousand dollars more than the base $2,500 being several thousand dollars more than the base $2,500 to being several thousand dollars more than the base $2,500 to $3,000. being several thousand dollars more than the base $2,500 to $3,000. It than the base $2,500 to $3,000. It is than the base $2,500 to $3,000. It is designed than the base $2,500 to $3,000. It is designed to than the base $2,500 to $3,000. It is designed to address than the base $2,500 to $3,000. It is designed to address actual than the base $2,500 to $3,000. It is designed to address actual costs is designed to address actual costs and is designed to address actual costs and losses is designed to address actual costs and losses incurred, is designed to address actual costs and losses incurred, sometimes is designed to address actual costs and losses incurred, sometimes that and losses incurred, sometimes that is and losses incurred, sometimes that is - and losses incurred, sometimes that is - refers and losses incurred, sometimes that is - refers to and losses incurred, sometimes that is - refers to possessions and losses incurred, sometimes that is - refers to possessions that and losses incurred, sometimes that is - refers to possessions that were is - refers to possessions that were lost, is - refers to possessions that were lost, costs is - refers to possessions that were lost, costs involved is - refers to possessions that were lost, costs involved with is - refers to possessions that were lost, costs involved with losing is - refers to possessions that were lost, costs involved with losing a lost, costs involved with losing a tenancy lost, costs involved with losing a tenancy and lost, costs involved with losing a tenancy and having lost, costs involved with losing a tenancy and having to lost, costs involved with losing a tenancy and having to find lost, costs involved with losing a tenancy and having to find somewhere tenancy and having to find somewhere else tenancy and having to find somewhere else to tenancy and having to find somewhere else to live. tenancy and having to find somewhere else to live. Will tenancy and having to find somewhere else to live. Will the tenancy and having to find somewhere else to live. Will the minister else to live. Will the minister urgently else to live. Will the minister urgently prioritise else to live. Will the minister urgently prioritise finding else to live. Will the minister urgently prioritise finding homes urgently prioritise finding homes for urgently prioritise finding homes for the urgently prioritise finding homes for the over urgently prioritise finding homes for the over 90 urgently prioritise finding homes for the over 90 tenants, urgently prioritise finding homes for the over 90 tenants, and urgently prioritise finding homes for the over 90 tenants, and their for the over 90 tenants, and their family, for the over 90 tenants, and their family, in for the over 90 tenants, and their family, in unsuitable for the over 90 tenants, and their family, in unsuitable housing for the over 90 tenants, and their family, in unsuitable housing and for the over 90 tenants, and their family, in unsuitable housing and on family, in unsuitable housing and on the family, in unsuitable housing and on the social family, in unsuitable housing and on the social housing family, in unsuitable housing and on the social housing register family, in unsuitable housing and on the social housing register as family, in unsuitable housing and on the social housing register as a the social housing register as a result the social housing register as a result of the social housing register as a result of inhumane the social housing register as a result of inhumane meth the social housing register as a result of inhumane meth testing result of inhumane meth testing policies? result of inhumane meth testing policies? Yes, result of inhumane meth testing policies? Yes, Housing result of inhumane meth testing policies? Yes, Housing New result of inhumane meth testing policies? Yes, Housing New Zealand policies? Yes, Housing New Zealand is policies? Yes, Housing New Zealand is working policies? Yes, Housing New Zealand is working on policies? Yes, Housing New Zealand is working on ensuring policies? Yes, Housing New Zealand is working on ensuring that policies? Yes, Housing New Zealand is working on ensuring that every is working on ensuring that every tenant is working on ensuring that every tenant who is working on ensuring that every tenant who is is working on ensuring that every tenant who is eligible is working on ensuring that every tenant who is eligible for is working on ensuring that every tenant who is eligible for public tenant who is eligible for public tenant who is eligible for public tenant who is eligible for public housing who tenant who is eligible for public housing who is tenant who is eligible for public housing who is on tenant who is eligible for public housing who is on the tenant who is eligible for public housing who is on the public tenant who is eligible for public housing who is on the public housing housing who is on the public housing register housing who is on the public housing register is housing who is on the public housing register is rehoused. housing who is on the public housing register is rehoused. The housing who is on the public housing register is rehoused. The assistance register is rehoused. The assistance package register is rehoused. The assistance package includes register is rehoused. The assistance package includes rehousing register is rehoused. The assistance package includes rehousing tenants package includes rehousing tenants who package includes rehousing tenants who used package includes rehousing tenants who used to package includes rehousing tenants who used to be package includes rehousing tenants who used to be Housing package includes rehousing tenants who used to be Housing New package includes rehousing tenants who used to be Housing New Zealand who used to be Housing New Zealand tenants who used to be Housing New Zealand tenants but who used to be Housing New Zealand tenants but moved who used to be Housing New Zealand tenants but moved because who used to be Housing New Zealand tenants but moved because of tenants but moved because of methamphetamine tenants but moved because of methamphetamine contamination tenants but moved because of methamphetamine contamination and methamphetamine contamination and who methamphetamine contamination and who are methamphetamine contamination and who are currently methamphetamine contamination and who are currently on methamphetamine contamination and who are currently on the methamphetamine contamination and who are currently on the register. who are currently on the register. The who are currently on the register. The Hon who are currently on the register. The Hon Judith who are currently on the register. The Hon Judith Collins. who are currently on the register. The Hon Judith Collins. Has who are currently on the register. The Hon Judith Collins. Has he who are currently on the register. The Hon Judith Collins. Has he seen The Hon Judith Collins. Has he seen any The Hon Judith Collins. Has he seen any report The Hon Judith Collins. Has he seen any report that The Hon Judith Collins. Has he seen any report that shows The Hon Judith Collins. Has he seen any report that shows a The Hon Judith Collins. Has he seen any report that shows a house The Hon Judith Collins. Has he seen any report that shows a house can any report that shows a house can test any report that shows a house can test positive any report that shows a house can test positive for any report that shows a house can test positive for meth any report that shows a house can test positive for meth at any report that shows a house can test positive for meth at any any report that shows a house can test positive for meth at any level test positive for meth at any level if test positive for meth at any level if no test positive for meth at any level if no one test positive for meth at any level if no one has test positive for meth at any level if no one has been test positive for meth at any level if no one has been smoking test positive for meth at any level if no one has been smoking or test positive for meth at any level if no one has been smoking or baking if no one has been smoking or baking a if no one has been smoking or baking a highly if no one has been smoking or baking a highly dangerous if no one has been smoking or baking a highly dangerous illegal if no one has been smoking or baking a highly dangerous illegal class if no one has been smoking or baking a highly dangerous illegal class A a highly dangerous illegal class A drug a highly dangerous illegal class A drug in a highly dangerous illegal class A drug in that a highly dangerous illegal class A drug in that house? a highly dangerous illegal class A drug in that house? 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They hundreds of tenants, many of whom were made homeless. They were, hundreds of tenants, many of whom were made homeless. They were, in were made homeless. They were, in some were made homeless. They were, in some cases, were made homeless. They were, in some cases, denied were made homeless. They were, in some cases, denied natural were made homeless. They were, in some cases, denied natural justice. some cases, denied natural justice. They some cases, denied natural justice. They were some cases, denied natural justice. They were thrown some cases, denied natural justice. They were thrown out some cases, denied natural justice. They were thrown out on some cases, denied natural justice. They were thrown out on the some cases, denied natural justice. They were thrown out on the street. They were thrown out on the street. Not They were thrown out on the street. Not only They were thrown out on the street. Not only on They were thrown out on the street. 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This is an policy over a number of years. This is an exercise policy over a number of years. This is an exercise in policy over a number of years. This is an exercise in Government is an exercise in Government accountability. is an exercise in Government accountability. Housing is an exercise in Government accountability. Housing New is an exercise in Government accountability. Housing New Zealand accountability. Housing New Zealand is accountability. Housing New Zealand is stepping accountability. Housing New Zealand is stepping up, accountability. Housing New Zealand is stepping up, acknowledging accountability. 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Rerecognise and make them homeless. Rerecognise and make them homeless. Rerecognise that making and make them homeless. Rerecognise that making people and make them homeless. Rerecognise that making people home and make them homeless. Rerecognise that making people home less and make them homeless. 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I a nest egg for their retirement. I would a nest egg for their retirement. I would back a nest egg for their retirement. I would back our a nest egg for their retirement. I would back our record a nest egg for their retirement. I would back our record on a nest egg for their retirement. I would back our record on this a nest egg for their retirement. 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Supplementary, can the minister confirm that strengthened minister confirm that strengthened primary minister confirm that strengthened primary industry, minister confirm that strengthened primary industry, including minister confirm that strengthened primary industry, including dairy, primary industry, including dairy, forestry primary industry, including dairy, forestry and primary industry, including dairy, forestry and fisheries, primary industry, including dairy, forestry and fisheries, drove primary industry, including dairy, forestry and fisheries, drove the forestry and fisheries, drove the forestry and fisheries, drove the forestry and fisheries, drove the exceptional economic forestry and fisheries, drove the exceptional economic growth forestry and fisheries, drove the exceptional economic growth we forestry and fisheries, drove the exceptional economic growth we have exceptional economic growth we have seen exceptional economic growth we have seen in exceptional economic growth we have seen in the exceptional economic growth we have seen in the figures exceptional economic growth we have seen in the figures released exceptional economic growth we have seen in the figures released today? seen in the figures released today? 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Does he think it would be fair to tax capital since 2014. Does he think it would be fair to tax capital gains since 2014. 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If the member is suggesting that a capital member is suggesting that a capital gains member is suggesting that a capital gains tax member is suggesting that a capital gains tax should member is suggesting that a capital gains tax should be member is suggesting that a capital gains tax should be applied member is suggesting that a capital gains tax should be applied to member is suggesting that a capital gains tax should be applied to the gains tax should be applied to the family gains tax should be applied to the family home, gains tax should be applied to the family home, that's gains tax should be applied to the family home, that's a gains tax should be applied to the family home, that's a very family home, that's a very interesting family home, that's a very interesting development family home, that's a very interesting development indeed. interesting development indeed. Question interesting development indeed. Question No.4. Question Question No.4. 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Question No.5. to to become to become a to become a better to become a better treaty to become a better treaty partner. to become a better treaty partner. Question to become a better treaty partner. Question No.5. 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I am somewhat surprised to hear the member surprised to hear the member opposite surprised to hear the member opposite now surprised to hear the member opposite now make surprised to hear the member opposite now make this surprised to hear the member opposite now make this policy surprised to hear the member opposite now make this policy - surprised to hear the member opposite now make this policy - this opposite now make this policy - this will opposite now make this policy - this will make opposite now make this policy - this will make for opposite now make this policy - this will make for a opposite now make this policy - this will make for a very opposite now make this policy - this will make for a very interesting will make for a very interesting discussion will make for a very interesting discussion about will make for a very interesting discussion about the will make for a very interesting discussion about the future will make for a very interesting discussion about the future of will make for a very interesting discussion about the future of tax discussion about the future of tax in discussion about the future of tax in New discussion about the future of tax in New Zealand. discussion about the future of tax in New Zealand. Question discussion about the future of tax in New Zealand. Question No. discussion about the future of tax in New Zealand. Question No. 7 discussion about the future of tax in New Zealand. Question No. 7 - discussion about the future of tax in New Zealand. Question No. 7 - the in New Zealand. Question No. 7 - the Hon in New Zealand. Question No. 7 - the Hon Nikki in New Zealand. Question No. 7 - the Hon Nikki Kaye. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Education: My question is to the Minister of Education: How My question is to the Minister of Education: How many My question is to the Minister of Education: How many communications Education: How many communications has Education: How many communications has she Education: How many communications has she received Education: How many communications has she received from Education: How many communications has she received from teachers Education: How many communications has she received from teachers or has she received from teachers or principals has she received from teachers or principals in has she received from teachers or principals in the has she received from teachers or principals in the last has she received from teachers or principals in the last three has she received from teachers or principals in the last three days principals in the last three days regarding principals in the last three days regarding teacher principals in the last three days regarding teacher shortages, principals in the last three days regarding teacher shortages, relief regarding teacher shortages, relief teacher regarding teacher shortages, relief teacher issues, regarding teacher shortages, relief teacher issues, and regarding teacher shortages, relief teacher issues, and increases regarding teacher shortages, relief teacher issues, and increases in teacher issues, and increases in class teacher issues, and increases in class sizes, teacher issues, and increases in class sizes, and teacher issues, and increases in class sizes, and is teacher issues, and increases in class sizes, and is she teacher issues, and increases in class sizes, and is she confident class sizes, and is she confident there class sizes, and is she confident there will class sizes, and is she confident there will be class sizes, and is she confident there will be no class sizes, and is she confident there will be no more class sizes, and is she confident there will be no more primary there will be no more primary teacher there will be no more primary teacher strikes there will be no more primary teacher strikes this there will be no more primary teacher strikes this year? 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Given teachers and principals across the country. Given that teachers and principals across the country. Given that there teachers and principals across the country. Given that there is teachers and principals across the country. Given that there is a teachers and principals across the country. Given that there is a vote country. Given that there is a vote taking country. Given that there is a vote taking place country. Given that there is a vote taking place right country. Given that there is a vote taking place right now country. Given that there is a vote taking place right now on country. Given that there is a vote taking place right now on the country. Given that there is a vote taking place right now on the new taking place right now on the new offer taking place right now on the new offer for taking place right now on the new offer for NZEI, taking place right now on the new offer for NZEI, it taking place right now on the new offer for NZEI, it would taking place right now on the new offer for NZEI, it would be offer for NZEI, it would be inappropriate offer for NZEI, it would be inappropriate to offer for NZEI, it would be inappropriate to speculate offer for NZEI, it would be inappropriate to speculate on inappropriate to speculate on further inappropriate to speculate on further strike inappropriate to speculate on further strike action. inappropriate to speculate on further strike action. Jacqui inappropriate to speculate on further strike action. Jacqui Dean. further strike action. Jacqui Dean. What further strike action. Jacqui Dean. What does further strike action. Jacqui Dean. What does she further strike action. Jacqui Dean. What does she say further strike action. Jacqui Dean. What does she say to further strike action. Jacqui Dean. What does she say to the further strike action. Jacqui Dean. What does she say to the principal What does she say to the principal of What does she say to the principal of Waitakere What does she say to the principal of Waitakere Valley What does she say to the principal of Waitakere Valley School, What does she say to the principal of Waitakere Valley School, who What does she say to the principal of Waitakere Valley School, who is of Waitakere Valley School, who is struggling of Waitakere Valley School, who is struggling to of Waitakere Valley School, who is struggling to get of Waitakere Valley School, who is struggling to get adequate of Waitakere Valley School, who is struggling to get adequate levels of Waitakere Valley School, who is struggling to get adequate levels of struggling to get adequate levels of learning struggling to get adequate levels of learning support, struggling to get adequate levels of learning support, enough struggling to get adequate levels of learning support, enough relievers learning support, enough relievers to learning support, enough relievers What learning support, enough relievers to cover release learning support, enough relievers to cover release time learning support, enough relievers to cover release time and learning support, enough relievers to cover release time and RTLB to cover release time and RTLB meetings, to cover release time and RTLB meetings, and to cover release time and RTLB meetings, and teachers to cover release time and RTLB meetings, and teachers who to cover release time and RTLB meetings, and teachers who come to cover release time and RTLB meetings, and teachers who come to meetings, and teachers who come to school meetings, and teachers who come to school ill, meetings, and teachers who come to school ill, as meetings, and teachers who come to school ill, as there meetings, and teachers who come to school ill, as there is meetings, and teachers who come to school ill, as there is no meetings, and teachers who come to school ill, as there is no cover meetings, and teachers who come to school ill, as there is no cover for school ill, as there is no cover for them? school ill, as there is no cover for them? I school ill, as there is no cover for them? I would school ill, as there is no cover for them? I would acknowledge school ill, as there is no cover for them? I would acknowledge the them? I would acknowledge the principals them? I would acknowledge the principals such them? I would acknowledge the principals such as them? I would acknowledge the principals such as the them? I would acknowledge the principals such as the one them? I would acknowledge the principals such as the one mentioned principals such as the one mentioned there principals such as the one mentioned there and principals such as the one mentioned there and their principals such as the one mentioned there and their frustration. there and their frustration. Considering there and their frustration. Considering that there and their frustration. Considering that this there and their frustration. Considering that this topic there and their frustration. Considering that this topic was Considering that this topic was raised, Considering that this topic was raised, for Considering that this topic was raised, for example, Considering that this topic was raised, for example, as Considering that this topic was raised, for example, as reported Considering that this topic was raised, for example, as reported in raised, for example, as reported in the raised, for example, as reported in the Herald raised, for example, as reported in the Herald in raised, for example, as reported in the Herald in 2016, raised, for example, as reported in the Herald in 2016, with raised, for example, as reported in the Herald in 2016, with the the Herald in 2016, with the previous the Herald in 2016, with the previous government, the Herald in 2016, with the previous government, who the Herald in 2016, with the previous government, who if the Herald in 2016, with the previous government, who if I the Herald in 2016, with the previous government, who if I recall previous government, who if I recall correctly previous government, who if I recall correctly said previous government, who if I recall correctly said there previous government, who if I recall correctly said there is previous government, who if I recall correctly said there is no previous government, who if I recall correctly said there is no crisis correctly said there is no crisis and correctly said there is no crisis and promptly correctly said there is no crisis and promptly did correctly said there is no crisis and promptly did nothing. correctly said there is no crisis and promptly did nothing. I correctly said there is no crisis and promptly did nothing. I also and promptly did nothing. I also want and promptly did nothing. I also want to and promptly did nothing. I also want to give and promptly did nothing. I also want to give these and promptly did nothing. I also want to give these principals and promptly did nothing. I also want to give these principals and want to give these principals and teachers want to give these principals and teachers the want to give these principals and teachers the assurance want to give these principals and teachers the assurance that want to give these principals and teachers the assurance that this teachers the assurance that this Government teachers the assurance that this Government is teachers the assurance that this Government is - teachers the assurance that this Government is - unlike teachers the assurance that this Government is - unlike the teachers the assurance that this Government is - unlike the previous Government is - unlike the previous one Government is - unlike the previous one - Government is - unlike the previous one - taking Government is - unlike the previous one - taking action Government is - unlike the previous one - taking action to Government is - unlike the previous one - taking action to rectify Government is - unlike the previous one - taking action to rectify this one - taking action to rectify this issue one - taking action to rectify this issue as one - taking action to rectify this issue as quickly one - taking action to rectify this issue as quickly as one - taking action to rectify this issue as quickly as possible one - taking action to rectify this issue as quickly as possible through issue as quickly as possible through measures issue as quickly as possible through measures such issue as quickly as possible through measures such as issue as quickly as possible through measures such as - issue as quickly as possible through measures such as - the issue as quickly as possible through measures such as - the $370 issue as quickly as possible through measures such as - the $370 million measures such as - the $370 million in measures such as - the $370 million in this measures such as - the $370 million in this year's measures such as - the $370 million in this year's Budget measures such as - the $370 million in this year's Budget to measures such as - the $370 million in this year's Budget to fund measures such as - the $370 million in this year's Budget to fund 1,500 in this year's Budget to fund 1,500 more in this year's Budget to fund 1,500 more teacher in this year's Budget to fund 1,500 more teacher places, in this year's Budget to fund 1,500 more teacher places, a in this year's Budget to fund 1,500 more teacher places, a teacher more teacher places, a teacher supply more teacher places, a teacher supply package more teacher places, a teacher supply package of more teacher places, a teacher supply package of $9.5 more teacher places, a teacher supply package of $9.5 million supply package of $9.5 million announced supply package of $9.5 million announced in supply package of $9.5 million announced in December supply package of $9.5 million announced in December 2017 supply package of $9.5 million announced in December 2017 with supply package of $9.5 million announced in December 2017 with a announced in December 2017 with a further announced in December 2017 with a further $20 announced in December 2017 with a further $20 million announced in December 2017 with a further $20 million over announced in December 2017 with a further $20 million over the announced in December 2017 with a further $20 million over the next further $20 million over the next four further $20 million over the next four years, further $20 million over the next four years, and further $20 million over the next four years, and a further $20 million over the next four years, and a have further $20 million over the next four years, and a have funded further $20 million over the next four years, and a have funded more four years, and a have funded more than four years, and a have funded more than 1,000 four years, and a have funded more than 1,000 teacher four years, and a have funded more than 1,000 teacher refresher four years, and a have funded more than 1,000 teacher refresher places than 1,000 teacher refresher places to than 1,000 teacher refresher places to remove than 1,000 teacher refresher places to remove cost than 1,000 teacher refresher places to remove cost barriers than 1,000 teacher refresher places to remove cost barriers so than 1,000 teacher refresher places to remove cost barriers so that to remove cost barriers so that teachers to remove cost barriers so that teachers can to remove cost barriers so that teachers can return to remove cost barriers so that teachers can return to to remove cost barriers so that teachers can return to teaching teachers can return to teaching faster. teachers can return to teaching faster. Supplementary. teachers can return to teaching faster. Supplementary. How teachers can return to teaching faster. Supplementary. How does teachers can return to teaching faster. Supplementary. How does the faster. Supplementary. How does the Minister faster. Supplementary. How does the Minister plan faster. Supplementary. How does the Minister plan to faster. Supplementary. How does the Minister plan to respond faster. Supplementary. How does the Minister plan to respond to faster. Supplementary. 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The member may recall the shocking The member may recall the shocking situation The member may recall the shocking situation in The member may recall the shocking situation in October The member may recall the shocking situation in October 2012, The member may recall the shocking situation in October 2012, where The member may recall the shocking situation in October 2012, where a situation in October 2012, where a complete situation in October 2012, where a complete graduating situation in October 2012, where a complete graduating class situation in October 2012, where a complete graduating class of situation in October 2012, where a complete graduating class of primary complete graduating class of primary teaching complete graduating class of primary teaching students complete graduating class of primary teaching students were complete graduating class of primary teaching students were told complete graduating class of primary teaching students were told there teaching students were told there were teaching students were told there were no teaching students were told there were no jobs teaching students were told there were no jobs here teaching students were told there were no jobs here in teaching students were told there were no jobs here in New teaching students were told there were no jobs here in New Zealand teaching students were told there were no jobs here in New Zealand and were no jobs here in New Zealand and were were no jobs here in New Zealand and were advised were no jobs here in New Zealand and were advised to were no jobs here in New Zealand and were advised to go were no jobs here in New Zealand and were advised to go overseas. were no jobs here in New Zealand and were advised to go overseas. 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That is why, on 17 September, this why, on 17 September, this Government why, on 17 September, this Government announced why, on 17 September, this Government announced a why, on 17 September, this Government announced a targeted Government announced a targeted campaign Government announced a targeted campaign to Government announced a targeted campaign to attract Government announced a targeted campaign to attract New campaign to attract New Zealand-trained campaign to attract New Zealand-trained teachers campaign to attract New Zealand-trained teachers to campaign to attract New Zealand-trained teachers to return Zealand-trained teachers to return home, Zealand-trained teachers to return home, and Zealand-trained teachers to return home, and overseas-trained Zealand-trained teachers to return home, and overseas-trained teachers home, and overseas-trained teachers looking home, and overseas-trained teachers looking to home, and overseas-trained teachers looking to move home, and overseas-trained teachers looking to move to home, and overseas-trained teachers looking to move to New home, and overseas-trained teachers looking to move to New Zealand. home, and overseas-trained teachers looking to move to New Zealand. Will looking to move to New Zealand. Will she looking to move to New Zealand. Will she consider looking to move to New Zealand. Will she consider additional looking to move to New Zealand. Will she consider additional funds looking to move to New Zealand. Will she consider additional funds to she consider additional funds to primary she consider additional funds to primary school she consider additional funds to primary school teachers she consider additional funds to primary school teachers prior she consider additional funds to primary school teachers prior to primary school teachers prior to Wednesday's primary school teachers prior to Wednesday's vote primary school teachers prior to Wednesday's vote to primary school teachers prior to Wednesday's vote to include primary school teachers prior to Wednesday's vote to include reducing Wednesday's vote to include reducing class Wednesday's vote to include reducing class sizes Wednesday's vote to include reducing class sizes and Wednesday's vote to include reducing class sizes and special Wednesday's vote to include reducing class sizes and special educations class sizes and special educations in class sizes and special educations in schools class sizes and special educations in schools to class sizes and special educations in schools to try class sizes and special educations in schools to try and class sizes and special educations in schools to try and superintendent in schools to try and superintendent future in schools to try and superintendent future strikes? in schools to try and superintendent future strikes? 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So we cannot that we are seeking. So we cannot snap that we are seeking. So we cannot snap our that we are seeking. So we cannot snap our fingers that we are seeking. So we cannot snap our fingers after that we are seeking. So we cannot snap our fingers after nine that we are seeking. So we cannot snap our fingers after nine years that we are seeking. So we cannot snap our fingers after nine years of snap our fingers after nine years of neglect snap our fingers after nine years of neglect and snap our fingers after nine years of neglect and just snap our fingers after nine years of neglect and just magic-up snap our fingers after nine years of neglect and just magic-up a snap our fingers after nine years of neglect and just magic-up a teaching neglect and just magic-up a teaching workforce. neglect and just magic-up a teaching workforce. However, neglect and just magic-up a teaching workforce. However, this neglect and just magic-up a teaching workforce. 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Supplementary will be an announcement tomorrow. Supplementary question. Supplementary question. Has Supplementary question. Has her Supplementary question. Has her associate Supplementary question. Has her associate minister, Supplementary question. Has her associate minister, Tracey Has her associate minister, Tracey Martin, Has her associate minister, Tracey Martin, advocated Has her associate minister, Tracey Martin, advocated strongly... Has her associate minister, Tracey Martin, advocated strongly... Order! Martin, advocated strongly... Order! The Martin, advocated strongly... Order! The member's Martin, advocated strongly... Order! The member's got Martin, advocated strongly... Order! The member's got to Martin, advocated strongly... Order! The member's got to get Martin, advocated strongly... Order! The member's got to get that The member's got to get that question The member's got to get that question right. The member's got to get that question right. 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We're not totally reliant on detector dogs, X-ray technology. We're not totally reliant on detector dogs, like X-ray technology. We're not totally reliant on detector dogs, like the reliant on detector dogs, like the previous reliant on detector dogs, like the previous government. reliant on detector dogs, like the previous government. When reliant on detector dogs, like the previous government. When did reliant on detector dogs, like the previous government. When did he previous government. When did he find previous government. When did he find out previous government. When did he find out that previous government. When did he find out that detector previous government. When did he find out that detector dogs previous government. 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These a dog in the Green Lane at Auckland Airport. These are a dog in the Green Lane at Auckland Airport. These are operational Airport. These are operational matters. Airport. 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Mr Speaker, I was - when did he become aware? Mr Speaker, I was made - when did he become aware? Mr Speaker, I was made aware - when did he become aware? Mr Speaker, I was made aware this Speaker, I was made aware this morning. Speaker, I was made aware this morning. <INTERRUPTION> morning. <INTERRUPTION> Is morning. <INTERRUPTION> Is there morning. <INTERRUPTION> Is there a morning. <INTERRUPTION> Is there a bullying morning. <INTERRUPTION> Is there a bullying and morning. <INTERRUPTION> Is there a bullying and toxic Is there a bullying and toxic culture Is there a bullying and toxic culture within Is there a bullying and toxic culture within management Is there a bullying and toxic culture within management running culture within management running the culture within management running the dog culture within management running the dog detector culture within management running the dog detector teams culture within management running the dog detector teams at culture within management running the dog detector teams at Auckland's the dog detector teams at Auckland's International the dog detector teams at Auckland's International Airport? International Airport? I International Airport? 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All of us in the primary industries need of us in the primary industries need to of us in the primary industries need to support of us in the primary industries need to support them of us in the primary industries need to support them to of us in the primary industries need to support them to keep of us in the primary industries need to support them to keep doing of us in the primary industries need to support them to keep doing their to support them to keep doing their job to support them to keep doing their job and to support them to keep doing their job and become to support them to keep doing their job and become even to support them to keep doing their job and become even more to support them to keep doing their job and become even more vigilant. job and become even more vigilant. The job and become even more vigilant. The loss job and become even more vigilant. The loss to job and become even more vigilant. The loss to New job and become even more vigilant. 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In approach that compromised tenant wellbeing. In all, approach that compromised tenant wellbeing. In all, 810ants approach that compromised tenant wellbeing. In all, 810ants lost wellbeing. In all, 810ants lost their wellbeing. In all, 810ants lost their tenancies wellbeing. In all, 810ants lost their tenancies and wellbeing. In all, 810ants lost their tenancies and were wellbeing. In all, 810ants lost their tenancies and were not their tenancies and were not rehoused their tenancies and were not rehoused by their tenancies and were not rehoused by Housing their tenancies and were not rehoused by Housing New their tenancies and were not rehoused by Housing New Zealand. rehoused by Housing New Zealand. Many rehoused by Housing New Zealand. Many of rehoused by Housing New Zealand. Many of those rehoused by Housing New Zealand. Many of those people rehoused by Housing New Zealand. Many of those people were rehoused by Housing New Zealand. Many of those people were made Many of those people were made homeless. Many of those people were made homeless. The Many of those people were made homeless. The PM Many of those people were made homeless. The PM has Many of those people were made homeless. The PM has asked Many of those people were made homeless. The PM has asked us Many of those people were made homeless. The PM has asked us to Many of those people were made homeless. The PM has asked us to put homeless. The PM has asked us to put compassion homeless. The PM has asked us to put compassion back homeless. The PM has asked us to put compassion back into homeless. The PM has asked us to put compassion back into Government, homeless. The PM has asked us to put compassion back into Government, and compassion back into Government, and that's compassion back into Government, and that's why compassion back into Government, and that's why Housing compassion back into Government, and that's why Housing New compassion back into Government, and that's why Housing New Zealand compassion back into Government, and that's why Housing New Zealand is that's why Housing New Zealand is now that's why Housing New Zealand is now focused that's why Housing New Zealand is now focused on that's why Housing New Zealand is now focused on sustaining that's why Housing New Zealand is now focused on sustaining tenancies, now focused on sustaining tenancies, wrapping now focused on sustaining tenancies, wrapping support now focused on sustaining tenancies, wrapping support around now focused on sustaining tenancies, wrapping support around vulnerable wrapping support around vulnerable families, wrapping support around vulnerable families, and wrapping support around vulnerable families, and allowing wrapping support around vulnerable families, and allowing them wrapping support around vulnerable families, and allowing them to wrapping support around vulnerable families, and allowing them to live families, and allowing them to live their families, and allowing them to live their lives families, and allowing them to live their lives with families, and allowing them to live their lives with dignity. families, and allowing them to live their lives with dignity. We families, and allowing them to live their lives with dignity. We know their lives with dignity. We know the their lives with dignity. We know the counterfactual their lives with dignity. We know the counterfactual that their lives with dignity. We know the counterfactual that making the counterfactual that making vulnerable the counterfactual that making vulnerable families the counterfactual that making vulnerable families homeless the counterfactual that making vulnerable families homeless is the counterfactual that making vulnerable families homeless is the vulnerable families homeless is the worst-case vulnerable families homeless is the worst-case scenario vulnerable families homeless is the worst-case scenario for vulnerable families homeless is the worst-case scenario for the worst-case scenario for the families, worst-case scenario for the families, their worst-case scenario for the families, their neighbours, families, their neighbours, community, families, their neighbours, community, and families, their neighbours, community, and the families, their neighbours, community, and the country. community, and the country. How community, and the country. How will community, and the country. How will Housing community, and the country. How will Housing New community, and the country. How will Housing New Zealand community, and the country. How will Housing New Zealand deal How will Housing New Zealand deal with How will Housing New Zealand deal with drug How will Housing New Zealand deal with drug addiction How will Housing New Zealand deal with drug addiction in How will Housing New Zealand deal with drug addiction in the How will Housing New Zealand deal with drug addiction in the future? with drug addiction in the future? We with drug addiction in the future? We are with drug addiction in the future? We are focused with drug addiction in the future? We are focused on with drug addiction in the future? We are focused on the with drug addiction in the future? We are focused on the health with drug addiction in the future? We are focused on the health and We are focused on the health and wellbeing We are focused on the health and wellbeing of We are focused on the health and wellbeing of our We are focused on the health and wellbeing of our tenants, We are focused on the health and wellbeing of our tenants, and We are focused on the health and wellbeing of our tenants, and we wellbeing of our tenants, and we intend wellbeing of our tenants, and we intend to wellbeing of our tenants, and we intend to provide wellbeing of our tenants, and we intend to provide increased wellbeing of our tenants, and we intend to provide increased support intend to provide increased support to intend to provide increased support to people intend to provide increased support to people experiencing intend to provide increased support to people experiencing addiction intend to provide increased support to people experiencing addiction and to people experiencing addiction and drug-related to people experiencing addiction and drug-related harm. to people experiencing addiction and drug-related harm. Housing to people experiencing addiction and drug-related harm. Housing New drug-related harm. Housing New Zealand drug-related harm. Housing New Zealand will drug-related harm. Housing New Zealand will continue drug-related harm. Housing New Zealand will continue to drug-related harm. Housing New Zealand will continue to report Zealand will continue to report tenants Zealand will continue to report tenants who Zealand will continue to report tenants who deal Zealand will continue to report tenants who deal drugs Zealand will continue to report tenants who deal drugs or tenants who deal drugs or manufacture tenants who deal drugs or manufacture P tenants who deal drugs or manufacture P to tenants who deal drugs or manufacture P to the tenants who deal drugs or manufacture P to the police. tenants who deal drugs or manufacture P to the police. But manufacture P to the police. But drug manufacture P to the police. But drug use manufacture P to the police. But drug use will manufacture P to the police. But drug use will be manufacture P to the police. But drug use will be treated manufacture P to the police. But drug use will be treated in manufacture P to the police. But drug use will be treated in the drug use will be treated in the first drug use will be treated in the first instance drug use will be treated in the first instance as drug use will be treated in the first instance as a drug use will be treated in the first instance as a health drug use will be treated in the first instance as a health problem first instance as a health problem and, first instance as a health problem and, as first instance as a health problem and, as a first instance as a health problem and, as a compassionate first instance as a health problem and, as a compassionate landlord, and, as a compassionate landlord, Housing and, as a compassionate landlord, Housing New and, as a compassionate landlord, Housing New Zealand and, as a compassionate landlord, Housing New Zealand will and, as a compassionate landlord, Housing New Zealand will make and, as a compassionate landlord, Housing New Zealand will make sure Housing New Zealand will make sure that Housing New Zealand will make sure that tenants Housing New Zealand will make sure that tenants get Housing New Zealand will make sure that tenants get the Housing New Zealand will make sure that tenants get the medical Housing New Zealand will make sure that tenants get the medical support that tenants get the medical support that that tenants get the medical support that they that tenants get the medical support that they need that tenants get the medical support that they need to that tenants get the medical support that they need to deal that tenants get the medical support that they need to deal with that tenants get the medical support that they need to deal with their that they need to deal with their addictions. that they need to deal with their addictions. Further that they need to deal with their addictions. Further supplementary: addictions. Further supplementary: What addictions. Further supplementary: What other addictions. Further supplementary: What other projects addictions. Further supplementary: What other projects do addictions. Further supplementary: What other projects do Housing addictions. Further supplementary: What other projects do Housing New What other projects do Housing New Zealand What other projects do Housing New Zealand have What other projects do Housing New Zealand have underway What other projects do Housing New Zealand have underway to What other projects do Housing New Zealand have underway to better Zealand have underway to better support Zealand have underway to better support their Zealand have underway to better support their tenants? support their tenants? Housing support their tenants? Housing New support their tenants? Housing New Zealand support their tenants? Housing New Zealand has support their tenants? Housing New Zealand has been Housing New Zealand has been changing Housing New Zealand has been changing its Housing New Zealand has been changing its policies Housing New Zealand has been changing its policies and Housing New Zealand has been changing its policies and practices changing its policies and practices to changing its policies and practices to improve changing its policies and practices to improve outcomes changing its policies and practices to improve outcomes for changing its policies and practices to improve outcomes for the changing its policies and practices to improve outcomes for the people to improve outcomes for the people we to improve outcomes for the people we house, to improve outcomes for the people we house, both to improve outcomes for the people we house, both now to improve outcomes for the people we house, both now and to improve outcomes for the people we house, both now and in to improve outcomes for the people we house, both now and in the we house, both now and in the future. we house, both now and in the future. Housing we house, both now and in the future. Housing New we house, both now and in the future. Housing New Zealand we house, both now and in the future. Housing New Zealand is future. Housing New Zealand is partnering future. Housing New Zealand is partnering with future. Housing New Zealand is partnering with other future. Housing New Zealand is partnering with other agencies future. Housing New Zealand is partnering with other agencies and partnering with other agencies and specialist partnering with other agencies and specialist non-government partnering with other agencies and specialist non-government NGOs partnering with other agencies and specialist non-government NGOs to specialist non-government NGOs to address specialist non-government NGOs to address the specialist non-government NGOs to address the deep specialist non-government NGOs to address the deep and specialist non-government NGOs to address the deep and complex specialist non-government NGOs to address the deep and complex social address the deep and complex social issues address the deep and complex social issues like address the deep and complex social issues like addiction address the deep and complex social issues like addiction and issues like addiction and drug-related issues like addiction and drug-related harm. issues like addiction and drug-related harm. For issues like addiction and drug-related harm. For example, issues like addiction and drug-related harm. For example, the drug-related harm. For example, the new drug-related harm. For example, the new Greys drug-related harm. For example, the new Greys Avenue drug-related harm. For example, the new Greys Avenue development drug-related harm. For example, the new Greys Avenue development in new Greys Avenue development in Auckland new Greys Avenue development in Auckland will new Greys Avenue development in Auckland will have new Greys Avenue development in Auckland will have support new Greys Avenue development in Auckland will have support of Auckland will have support of Housing, Auckland will have support of Housing, combining Auckland will have support of Housing, combining public Auckland will have support of Housing, combining public housing Housing, combining public housing with Housing, combining public housing with services Housing, combining public housing with services including Housing, combining public housing with services including 24-hour with services including 24-hour specialist with services including 24-hour specialist services with services including 24-hour specialist services to with services including 24-hour specialist services to support specialist services to support people specialist services to support people with specialist services to support people with addiction specialist services to support people with addiction issues. people with addiction issues. Housing people with addiction issues. Housing New people with addiction issues. Housing New Zealand people with addiction issues. Housing New Zealand wants people with addiction issues. Housing New Zealand wants to people with addiction issues. Housing New Zealand wants to be people with addiction issues. Housing New Zealand wants to be a Housing New Zealand wants to be a very Housing New Zealand wants to be a very different Housing New Zealand wants to be a very different organisation Housing New Zealand wants to be a very different organisation now. Housing New Zealand wants to be a very different organisation now. We very different organisation now. We want very different organisation now. We want tenants very different organisation now. We want tenants to very different organisation now. We want tenants to live very different organisation now. We want tenants to live their very different organisation now. We want tenants to live their lives want tenants to live their lives with want tenants to live their lives with dignity want tenants to live their lives with dignity and want tenants to live their lives with dignity and respect. with dignity and respect. Why with dignity and respect. Why does with dignity and respect. Why does the with dignity and respect. Why does the Government with dignity and respect. Why does the Government believe Why does the Government believe sustaining Why does the Government believe sustaining tenancies Why does the Government believe sustaining tenancies is Why does the Government believe sustaining tenancies is so sustaining tenancies is so important? important? All important? All of important? All of the important? All of the evidence important? All of the evidence tells important? All of the evidence tells us important? All of the evidence tells us that All of the evidence tells us that secure All of the evidence tells us that secure housing All of the evidence tells us that secure housing is All of the evidence tells us that secure housing is critical All of the evidence tells us that secure housing is critical to secure housing is critical to people's secure housing is critical to people's wellbeing secure housing is critical to people's wellbeing - secure housing is critical to people's wellbeing - especially secure housing is critical to people's wellbeing - especially for people's wellbeing - especially for children people's wellbeing - especially for children and people's wellbeing - especially for children and for people's wellbeing - especially for children and for people people's wellbeing - especially for children and for people who people's wellbeing - especially for children and for people who are children and for people who are vulnerable children and for people who are vulnerable in children and for people who are vulnerable in other children and for people who are vulnerable in other ways children and for people who are vulnerable in other ways - children and for people who are vulnerable in other ways - for vulnerable in other ways - for example, vulnerable in other ways - for example, with vulnerable in other ways - for example, with disabilities vulnerable in other ways - for example, with disabilities or example, with disabilities or illnesses. example, with disabilities or illnesses. Throwing example, with disabilities or illnesses. Throwing people example, with disabilities or illnesses. Throwing people with illnesses. Throwing people with addictions illnesses. Throwing people with addictions out illnesses. Throwing people with addictions out onto illnesses. Throwing people with addictions out onto the illnesses. Throwing people with addictions out onto the street illnesses. Throwing people with addictions out onto the street is addictions out onto the street is the addictions out onto the street is the worst addictions out onto the street is the worst possible addictions out onto the street is the worst possible thing addictions out onto the street is the worst possible thing that addictions out onto the street is the worst possible thing that we addictions out onto the street is the worst possible thing that we can the worst possible thing that we can do the worst possible thing that we can do for the worst possible thing that we can do for them. do for them. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Courts: My question is to the Minister for Courts: Is My question is to the Minister for Courts: Is he My question is to the Minister for Courts: Is he confident My question is to the Minister for Courts: Is he confident that My question is to the Minister for Courts: Is he confident that the Courts: Is he confident that the Canterbury Courts: Is he confident that the Canterbury Earthquakes Courts: Is he confident that the Canterbury Earthquakes Insurance Canterbury Earthquakes Insurance Tribunal Canterbury Earthquakes Insurance Tribunal will Canterbury Earthquakes Insurance Tribunal will comply Canterbury Earthquakes Insurance Tribunal will comply with Canterbury Earthquakes Insurance Tribunal will comply with all Tribunal will comply with all requirements Tribunal will comply with all requirements of Tribunal will comply with all requirements of the Tribunal will comply with all requirements of the rule Tribunal will comply with all requirements of the rule of Tribunal will comply with all requirements of the rule of law? 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On whose advice is he establishing a tribunal which will establishing a tribunal which will have establishing a tribunal which will have the establishing a tribunal which will have the power establishing a tribunal which will have the power to establishing a tribunal which will have the power to override have the power to override contractual have the power to override contractual terms have the power to override contractual terms in have the power to override contractual terms in an have the power to override contractual terms in an insurance contractual terms in an insurance contract contractual terms in an insurance contract between contractual terms in an insurance contract between the contractual terms in an insurance contract between the insurer contractual terms in an insurance contract between the insurer and contractual terms in an insurance contract between the insurer and the contract between the insurer and the insured? contract between the insurer and the insured? 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Question need to take measures that will actually reduce harm. Question No. actually reduce harm. Question No. 12 actually reduce harm. Question No. 12 - actually reduce harm. Question No. 12 - Anahila actually reduce harm. Question No. 12 - Anahila Kanongata'a-Suisuiki. 12 - Anahila Kanongata'a-Suisuiki. INTERPRETER: 12 - Anahila Kanongata'a-Suisuiki. INTERPRETER: Thank 12 - Anahila Kanongata'a-Suisuiki. INTERPRETER: Thank you, 12 - Anahila Kanongata'a-Suisuiki. INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr 12 - Anahila Kanongata'a-Suisuiki. INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. My INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. My question INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. My question is INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. My question is to INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. My question is to the INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. My question is to the Minister INTERPRETER: Thank you, Mr Speaker. My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Commerce My question is to the Minister of Commerce and My question is to the Minister of Commerce and Consumer My question is to the Minister of Commerce and Consumer Affairs. What What measures What measures has What measures has the What measures has the Government What measures has the Government announced What measures has the Government announced to What measures has the Government announced to protect What measures has the Government announced to protect the What measures has the Government announced to protect the public What measures has the Government announced to protect the public from announced to protect the public from unscrupulous announced to protect the public from unscrupulous wheel-clamping unscrupulous wheel-clamping practices? 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INTERPRETER: Supplementary and Green Party for their support. INTERPRETER: Supplementary question: INTERPRETER: Supplementary question: What INTERPRETER: Supplementary question: What are INTERPRETER: Supplementary question: What are the INTERPRETER: Supplementary question: What are the consequences INTERPRETER: Supplementary question: What are the consequences for INTERPRETER: Supplementary question: What are the consequences for cowboy What are the consequences for cowboy clampers What are the consequences for cowboy clampers if What are the consequences for cowboy clampers if they What are the consequences for cowboy clampers if they don't What are the consequences for cowboy clampers if they don't comply? clampers if they don't comply? Mr clampers if they don't comply? Mr Speaker, clampers if they don't comply? Mr Speaker, as clampers if they don't comply? Mr Speaker, as I clampers if they don't comply? Mr Speaker, as I said, clampers if they don't comply? 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