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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. 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The October 679 the business for that October 679 the business for that week October 679 the business for that week will October 679 the business for that week will include October 679 the business for that week will include the October 679 the business for that week will include the committee week will include the committee week week will include the committee stages of the week will include the committee stages of the Telecommunications week will include the committee week week will include the committee (New Regulatory Framework) week will include the committee (New Regulatory Framework) Amendment (New Regulatory Framework) Amendment Bill, (New Regulatory Framework) Amendment Bill, the (New Regulatory Framework) Amendment Bill, the Courts (New Regulatory Framework) Amendment Bill, the Courts Matters (New Regulatory Framework) Amendment Bill, the Courts Matters Bill, (New Regulatory Framework) Amendment Bill, the Courts Matters Bill, and Bill, the Courts Matters Bill, and the Bill, the Courts Matters Bill, and the tribunals Bill, the Courts Matters Bill, and the tribunals powers Bill, the Courts Matters Bill, and the tribunals powers and Bill, the Courts Matters Bill, and the tribunals powers and procedures the tribunals powers and procedures bill the tribunals powers and procedures bill and the tribunals powers and procedures bill and the the tribunals powers and procedures bill and the first the tribunals powers and procedures bill and the first reading the tribunals powers and procedures bill and the first reading of the tribunals powers and procedures bill and the first reading of the bill and the first reading of the Equal bill and the first reading of the Equal Pay bill and the first reading of the Equal Pay Amendment bill and the first reading of the Equal Pay Amendment Bill. bill and the first reading of the Equal Pay Amendment Bill. The Equal Pay Amendment Bill. The Government Equal Pay Amendment Bill. The Government will Equal Pay Amendment Bill. The Government will move Equal Pay Amendment Bill. The Government will move to Equal Pay Amendment Bill. The Government will move to extend Equal Pay Amendment Bill. The Government will move to extend the Government will move to extend the sitting Government will move to extend the sitting of Government will move to extend the sitting of Tuesday Government will move to extend the sitting of Tuesday 16 Government will move to extend the sitting of Tuesday 16 October Government will move to extend the sitting of Tuesday 16 October until sitting of Tuesday 16 October until 1:00pm sitting of Tuesday 16 October until 1:00pm on sitting of Tuesday 16 October until 1:00pm on Wednesday sitting of Tuesday 16 October until 1:00pm on Wednesday 17 sitting of Tuesday 16 October until 1:00pm on Wednesday 17 October, 1:00pm on Wednesday 17 October, Wednesday 1:00pm on Wednesday 17 October, Wednesday 17 1:00pm on Wednesday 17 October, Wednesday 17 October 1:00pm on Wednesday 17 October, Wednesday 17 October will 1:00pm on Wednesday 17 October, Wednesday 17 October will be 1:00pm on Wednesday 17 October, Wednesday 17 October will be a Wednesday 17 October will be a member's Wednesday 17 October will be a member's day. Wednesday 17 October will be a member's day. The Wednesday 17 October will be a member's day. The Hon Wednesday 17 October will be a member's day. The Hon Gerry member's day. The Hon Gerry Brownlee. member's day. The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Does member's day. The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Does the member's day. The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Does the Leader member's day. The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Does the Leader of member's day. The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Does the Leader of the Brownlee. Does the Leader of the House Brownlee. Does the Leader of the House realise Brownlee. Does the Leader of the House realise that Brownlee. Does the Leader of the House realise that the Brownlee. Does the Leader of the House realise that the bills Brownlee. Does the Leader of the House realise that the bills he House realise that the bills he circulated House realise that the bills he circulated for House realise that the bills he circulated for consideration House realise that the bills he circulated for consideration in circulated for consideration in extended circulated for consideration in extended hours circulated for consideration in extended hours in circulated for consideration in extended hours in the circulated for consideration in extended hours in the hope circulated for consideration in extended hours in the hope that circulated for consideration in extended hours in the hope that the extended hours in the hope that the Opposition extended hours in the hope that the Opposition might extended hours in the hope that the Opposition might agree extended hours in the hope that the Opposition might agree to extended hours in the hope that the Opposition might agree to select Opposition might agree to select committee Opposition might agree to select committee sitting, Opposition might agree to select committee sitting, are Opposition might agree to select committee sitting, are all Opposition might agree to select committee sitting, are all bills committee sitting, are all bills that committee sitting, are all bills that have committee sitting, are all bills that have been committee sitting, are all bills that have been returned committee sitting, are all bills that have been returned to committee sitting, are all bills that have been returned to the committee sitting, are all bills that have been returned to the House that have been returned to the House by that have been returned to the House by select that have been returned to the House by select committees that have been returned to the House by select committees due that have been returned to the House by select committees due to that have been returned to the House by select committees due to sit that have been returned to the House by select committees due to sit that by select committees due to sit that morning? by select committees due to sit that morning? 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It is the Government's will certainly check that list. It is the Government's intention will certainly check that list. It is the Government's intention to is the Government's intention to ensure is the Government's intention to ensure that is the Government's intention to ensure that bills is the Government's intention to ensure that bills considered is the Government's intention to ensure that bills considered under ensure that bills considered under ensure that bills considered under ensure that bills considered under extended period ensure that bills considered under extended period do ensure that bills considered under extended period do not ensure that bills considered under extended period do not clash ensure that bills considered under extended period do not clash with extended period do not clash with select extended period do not clash with select committees. extended period do not clash with select committees. Point extended period do not clash with select committees. 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Did the PM's chief called Handley, and thank God for him. Did the PM's chief place him. Did the PM's chief place secretary him. Did the PM's chief place secretary proactively him. Did the PM's chief place secretary proactively text him. Did the PM's chief place secretary proactively text Derek secretary proactively text Derek Handley secretary proactively text Derek Handley and secretary proactively text Derek Handley and exchange secretary proactively text Derek Handley and exchange 13 secretary proactively text Derek Handley and exchange 13 text secretary proactively text Derek Handley secretary proactively text Derek messages with him secretary proactively text Derek messages with him and secretary proactively text Derek messages with him and call secretary proactively text Derek messages with him and call him secretary proactively text Derek messages with him and call him at messages with him and call him at messages with him and call him at messages with him and call him at least twice messages with him and call him at least twice to messages with him and call him at least twice to discuss messages with him and call him at least twice to discuss his least twice to discuss his appointment least twice to discuss his appointment as least twice to discuss his appointment as chief least twice to discuss his appointment as chief technology appointment as chief technology officer? appointment as chief technology officer? 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Did the PM's chief of staff complete, full disclosure. Did the PM's chief of staff call complete, full disclosure. Did the PM's chief of staff call Derek PM's chief of staff call Derek Handley PM's chief of staff call Derek Handley to PM's chief of staff call Derek Handley to discuss PM's chief of staff call Derek Handley to discuss his PM's chief of staff call Derek Handley to discuss his offer PM's chief of staff call Derek Handley to discuss his offer to PM's chief of staff call Derek Handley to discuss his offer to help Handley to discuss his offer to help and Handley to discuss his offer to help and support Handley to discuss his offer to help and support the Handley to discuss his offer to help and support the PM? Handley to discuss his offer to help and support the PM? I Handley to discuss his offer to help and support the PM? I don't Handley to discuss his offer to help and support the PM? I don't know Handley to discuss his offer to help and support the PM? 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She the honesty of Megan Woods in that matter. She is the honesty of Megan Woods in that matter. She is utterly the honesty of Megan Woods in that matter. She is utterly being matter. She is utterly being truthful matter. She is utterly being truthful about matter. She is utterly being truthful about this matter. She is utterly being truthful about this and matter. She is utterly being truthful about this and that matter. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: My question is to the Minister of Finance: Is My question is to the Minister of Finance: Is it My question is to the Minister of Finance: Is it a My question is to the Minister of Finance: Is it a goal My question is to the Minister of Finance: Is it a goal of My question is to the Minister of Finance: Is it a goal of the Finance: Is it a goal of the Government's Finance: Is it a goal of the Government's economic Finance: Is it a goal of the Government's economic development Government's economic development policy Government's economic development policy for Government's economic development policy for New Government's economic development policy for New Zealanders Government's economic development policy for New Zealanders to Government's economic development policy for New Zealanders to enjoy policy for New Zealanders to enjoy higher policy for New Zealanders to enjoy higher incomes? 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That future where we do want people in high-paying jobs. That means high-paying jobs. That means investing high-paying jobs. That means investing in high-paying jobs. That means investing in research high-paying jobs. That means investing in research and investing in research and development, investing in research and development, that investing in research and development, that means investing in research and development, that means making investing in research and development, that means making sure development, that means making sure development, that means making sure development, that means making sure the economy development, that means making sure the economy is development, that means making sure the economy is more development, that means making sure the economy is more sustainable. the economy is more sustainable. That the economy is more sustainable. That means the economy is more sustainable. That means making the economy is more sustainable. 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Question we can. <INTERRUPTION> . Question No. we can. <INTERRUPTION> . Question No. 6. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Health: My question is to the Minister of Health: What My question is to the Minister of Health: What recent My question is to the Minister of Health: What recent announcements Health: What recent announcements has Health: What recent announcements has he Health: What recent announcements has he made Health: What recent announcements has he made about Health: What recent announcements has he made about the Health: What recent announcements has he made about the delivery Health: What recent announcements has he made about the delivery of has he made about the delivery of air has he made about the delivery of air ambulance has he made about the delivery of air ambulance services? Air Air ambulances Air ambulances are Air ambulances are a Air ambulances are a critical Air ambulances are a critical life-saving Air ambulances are a critical life-saving service. Air ambulances are a critical life-saving service. Our Air ambulances are a critical life-saving service. Our current Air ambulances are a critical life-saving service. Our current air life-saving service. Our current air ambulance life-saving service. Our current air ambulance providers life-saving service. Our current air ambulance providers have life-saving service. Our current air ambulance providers have done life-saving service. Our current air ambulance providers have done a ambulance providers have done a great ambulance providers have done a great job ambulance providers have done a great job but ambulance providers have done a great job but our ambulance providers have done a great job but our helicopter ambulance providers have done a great job but our helicopter fleet great job but our helicopter fleet is great job but our helicopter fleet is ageing. great job but our helicopter fleet is ageing. The great job but our helicopter fleet is ageing. The Government great job but our helicopter fleet is ageing. The Government is is ageing. The Government is committed is ageing. The Government is committed to is ageing. The Government is committed to a is ageing. The Government is committed to a 10 is ageing. The Government is committed to a 10 programme, is ageing. The Government is committed to a 10 programme, lead is ageing. The Government is committed to a 10 programme, lead by committed to a 10 programme, lead by chin committed to a 10 programme, lead by chin in committed to a 10 programme, lead by chin in additions committed to a 10 programme, lead by chin in additions that, committed to a 10 programme, lead by chin in additions that, will chin in additions that, will modernise chin in additions that, will modernise our chin in additions that, will modernise our fleet, chin in additions that, will modernise our fleet, increase chin in additions that, will modernise our fleet, increase crew modernise our fleet, increase crew numbers modernise our fleet, increase crew numbers and modernise our fleet, increase crew numbers and reduce modernise our fleet, increase crew numbers and reduce call-out modernise our fleet, increase crew numbers and reduce call-out times. numbers and reduce call-out times. Yesterday numbers and reduce call-out times. Yesterday I numbers and reduce call-out times. Yesterday I was numbers and reduce call-out times. Yesterday I was pleased numbers and reduce call-out times. Yesterday I was pleased to numbers and reduce call-out times. Yesterday I was pleased to announce Yesterday I was pleased to announce that Yesterday I was pleased to announce that an Yesterday I was pleased to announce that an agreement Yesterday I was pleased to announce that an agreement in Yesterday I was pleased to announce that an agreement in principle Yesterday I was pleased to announce that an agreement in principle for that an agreement in principle for services that an agreement in principle for services in that an agreement in principle for services in the that an agreement in principle for services in the northern that an agreement in principle for services in the northern region that an agreement in principle for services in the northern region has services in the northern region has been services in the northern region has been reached services in the northern region has been reached with services in the northern region has been reached with an services in the northern region has been reached with an agency been reached with an agency combining been reached with an agency combining the been reached with an agency combining the Auckland been reached with an agency combining the Auckland rescue combining the Auckland rescue helicopter combining the Auckland rescue helicopter trust combining the Auckland rescue helicopter trust and combining the Auckland rescue helicopter trust and the combining the Auckland rescue helicopter trust and the Northland helicopter trust and the Northland Emergency helicopter trust and the Northland Emergency Services helicopter trust and the Northland Emergency Services Trust. Emergency Services Trust. Announcements Emergency Services Trust. Announcements about Emergency Services Trust. Announcements about the Emergency Services Trust. Announcements about the central Emergency Services Trust. Announcements about the central and Announcements about the central and southern Announcements about the central and southern regions Announcements about the central and southern regions will Announcements about the central and southern regions will follow Announcements about the central and southern regions will follow at Announcements about the central and southern regions will follow at a southern regions will follow at a later southern regions will follow at a later date. southern regions will follow at a later date. How southern regions will follow at a later date. How will southern regions will follow at a later date. How will the southern regions will follow at a later date. How will the new later date. How will the new approach later date. How will the new approach to later date. How will the new approach to air later date. How will the new approach to air Ambulance later date. How will the new approach to air Ambulance Services approach to air Ambulance Services improve approach to air Ambulance Services improve outcomes approach to air Ambulance Services improve outcomes for approach to air Ambulance Services improve outcomes for patients? approach to air Ambulance Services improve outcomes for patients? The improve outcomes for patients? The average improve outcomes for patients? The average age improve outcomes for patients? The average age of improve outcomes for patients? The average age of our improve outcomes for patients? The average age of our air improve outcomes for patients? The average age of our air ambulance average age of our air ambulance fleet average age of our air ambulance fleet is average age of our air ambulance fleet is 29 average age of our air ambulance fleet is 29 years. average age of our air ambulance fleet is 29 years. One average age of our air ambulance fleet is 29 years. One in average age of our air ambulance fleet is 29 years. One in three average age of our air ambulance fleet is 29 years. One in three of fleet is 29 years. One in three of the fleet is 29 years. One in three of the helicopters fleet is 29 years. One in three of the helicopters are fleet is 29 years. One in three of the helicopters are still the helicopters are still single-engine. the helicopters are still single-engine. We the helicopters are still single-engine. We immediate the helicopters are still single-engine. We immediate to single-engine. We immediate to modernise single-engine. We immediate to modernise and single-engine. We immediate to modernise and uptrade single-engine. We immediate to modernise and uptrade our single-engine. We immediate to modernise and uptrade our helicopter modernise and uptrade our helicopter fleet modernise and uptrade our helicopter fleet and modernise and uptrade our helicopter fleet and move modernise and uptrade our helicopter fleet and move to modernise and uptrade our helicopter fleet and move to the modernise and uptrade our helicopter fleet and move to the use modernise and uptrade our helicopter fleet and move to the use of fleet and move to the use of twin-engine fleet and move to the use of twin-engine machines fleet and move to the use of twin-engine machines nationwide fleet and move to the use of twin-engine machines nationwide the twin-engine machines nationwide the allow twin-engine machines nationwide the allow more twin-engine machines nationwide the allow more space twin-engine machines nationwide the allow more space for twin-engine machines nationwide the allow more space for treatment twin-engine machines nationwide the allow more space for treatment of allow more space for treatment of patients allow more space for treatment of patients during allow more space for treatment of patients during transit. allow more space for treatment of patients during transit. Nationally, patients during transit. Nationally, the patients during transit. Nationally, the new patients during transit. Nationally, the new contracts patients during transit. Nationally, the new contracts will patients during transit. Nationally, the new contracts will also patients during transit. Nationally, the new contracts will also mean the new contracts will also mean more the new contracts will also mean more permanent the new contracts will also mean more permanent staff the new contracts will also mean more permanent staff on the new contracts will also mean more permanent staff on base the new contracts will also mean more permanent staff on base and more permanent staff on base and will more permanent staff on base and will ensure more permanent staff on base and will ensure crew more permanent staff on base and will ensure crew and more permanent staff on base and will ensure crew and clinical more permanent staff on base and will ensure crew and clinical staff will ensure crew and clinical staff are will ensure crew and clinical staff are closer will ensure crew and clinical staff are closer at will ensure crew and clinical staff are closer at hand will ensure crew and clinical staff are closer at hand to will ensure crew and clinical staff are closer at hand to reduce are closer at hand to reduce call-out are closer at hand to reduce call-out time. are closer at hand to reduce call-out time. This are closer at hand to reduce call-out time. This is are closer at hand to reduce call-out time. This is about are closer at hand to reduce call-out time. This is about putting call-out time. This is about putting the call-out time. This is about putting the needs call-out time. This is about putting the needs of call-out time. This is about putting the needs of patients call-out time. This is about putting the needs of patients first call-out time. This is about putting the needs of patients first and the needs of patients first and reflects the needs of patients first and reflects the the needs of patients first and reflects the Government's the needs of patients first and reflects the Government's commitment reflects the Government's commitment to reflects the Government's commitment to improving reflects the Government's commitment to improving the reflects the Government's commitment to improving the wellbeing reflects the Government's commitment to improving the wellbeing of reflects the Government's commitment to improving the wellbeing of Kiwi to improving the wellbeing of Kiwi families. to improving the wellbeing of Kiwi families. Will to improving the wellbeing of Kiwi families. Will the to improving the wellbeing of Kiwi families. Will the new to improving the wellbeing of Kiwi families. Will the new approach to improving the wellbeing of Kiwi families. Will the new approach to families. Will the new approach to air families. Will the new approach to air Ambulance families. Will the new approach to air Ambulance Services families. Will the new approach to air Ambulance Services require air Ambulance Services require further air Ambulance Services require further investment air Ambulance Services require further investment from air Ambulance Services require further investment from the further investment from the Government? further investment from the Government? Improving further investment from the Government? Improving our further investment from the Government? Improving our nationwide Government? Improving our nationwide air Government? Improving our nationwide air Ambulance Government? Improving our nationwide air Ambulance Service Government? Improving our nationwide air Ambulance Service will Government? Improving our nationwide air Ambulance Service will require air Ambulance Service will require sustained air Ambulance Service will require sustained investment. air Ambulance Service will require sustained investment. That air Ambulance Service will require sustained investment. That is air Ambulance Service will require sustained investment. That is why air Ambulance Service will require sustained investment. That is why in sustained investment. That is why in Budget sustained investment. That is why in Budget 2018 sustained investment. That is why in Budget 2018 we sustained investment. That is why in Budget 2018 we invested sustained investment. That is why in Budget 2018 we invested an sustained investment. That is why in Budget 2018 we invested an extra sustained investment. That is why in Budget 2018 we invested an extra $83 Budget 2018 we invested an extra $83 million Budget 2018 we invested an extra $83 million into Budget 2018 we invested an extra $83 million into air Budget 2018 we invested an extra $83 million into air Ambulance Budget 2018 we invested an extra $83 million into air Ambulance Services million into air Ambulance Services over million into air Ambulance Services over the million into air Ambulance Services over the next million into air Ambulance Services over the next four million into air Ambulance Services over the next four years. million into air Ambulance Services over the next four years. So, million into air Ambulance Services over the next four years. So, that over the next four years. So, that the over the next four years. So, that the dedicated over the next four years. So, that the dedicated medics over the next four years. So, that the dedicated medics and over the next four years. So, that the dedicated medics and pilots over the next four years. So, that the dedicated medics and pilots have the dedicated medics and pilots have the the dedicated medics and pilots have the tools the dedicated medics and pilots have the tools they the dedicated medics and pilots have the tools they need the dedicated medics and pilots have the tools they need to the dedicated medics and pilots have the tools they need to do the dedicated medics and pilots have the tools they need to do their the dedicated medics and pilots have the tools they need to do their job. the tools they need to do their job. Mr the tools they need to do their job. Mr Speaker, the tools they need to do their job. Mr Speaker, this the tools they need to do their job. Mr Speaker, this Government the tools they need to do their job. Mr Speaker, this Government is Mr Speaker, this Government is committed Mr Speaker, this Government is committed to Mr Speaker, this Government is committed to investing Mr Speaker, this Government is committed to investing in Mr Speaker, this Government is committed to investing in the Mr Speaker, this Government is committed to investing in the health committed to investing in the health system committed to investing in the health system and committed to investing in the health system and dealing committed to investing in the health system and dealing with committed to investing in the health system and dealing with the committed to investing in the health system and dealing with the legacy system and dealing with the legacy of system and dealing with the legacy of underfunding system and dealing with the legacy of underfunding that system and dealing with the legacy of underfunding that we system and dealing with the legacy of underfunding that we inherited. 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An An inquiry An inquiry into An inquiry into the An inquiry into the appointment An inquiry into the appointment process An inquiry into the appointment process is An inquiry into the appointment process is now An inquiry into the appointment process is now underway. An inquiry into the appointment process is now underway. And An inquiry into the appointment process is now underway. And I An inquiry into the appointment process is now underway. And I have process is now underway. And I have confidence process is now underway. And I have confidence in process is now underway. And I have confidence in Mary process is now underway. And I have confidence in Mary Shelton process is now underway. And I have confidence in Mary Shelton QC's confidence in Mary Shelton QC's ability confidence in Mary Shelton QC's confidence confidence in Mary Shelton QC's ability to run confidence in Mary Shelton QC's ability to run a confidence in Mary Shelton QC's ability to run a fair confidence in Mary Shelton QC's ability to run a fair process. confidence in Mary Shelton QC's ability to run a fair process. It ability to run a fair process. It wouldn't ability to run a fair process. It wouldn't be ability to run a fair process. It wouldn't be appropriate ability to run a fair process. It wouldn't be appropriate for ability to run a fair process. It wouldn't be appropriate for me ability to run a fair process. It wouldn't be appropriate for me to wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment during wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment during that wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment during that inquiry. wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment during that inquiry. Why wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment during that inquiry. Why was comment during that inquiry. Why was Wally comment during that inquiry. Why was Wally Haumaha comment during that inquiry. Why was Wally Haumaha appointed comment during that inquiry. Why was Wally Haumaha appointed as comment during that inquiry. 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National Party's judgement. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Why <INTERRUPTION> Why was <INTERRUPTION> Why was Wally <INTERRUPTION> Why was Wally Haumaha <INTERRUPTION> Why was Wally Haumaha appointed <INTERRUPTION> Why was Wally Haumaha appointed when Why was Wally Haumaha appointed when he Why was Wally Haumaha appointed when he was Why was Wally Haumaha appointed when he was not Why was Wally Haumaha appointed when he was not the Why was Wally Haumaha appointed when he was not the preferred Why was Wally Haumaha appointed when he was not the preferred candidate he was not the preferred candidate of he was not the preferred candidate of the he was not the preferred candidate of the State he was not the preferred candidate of the State Services he was not the preferred candidate of the State Services Commission of the State Services Commission interview of the State Services Commission interview panel of the State Services Commission interview panel who of the State Services Commission interview panel who interviewed of the State Services Commission interview panel who interviewed him? interview panel who interviewed him? 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