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Question no. 3, the Hon Amy Adams. Thank you, external risks. Question no. 3, the Hon Amy Adams. Thank you, Mr Hon Amy Adams. Thank you, Mr Speaker. 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This Government believes we all win when we grow our economy for the win when we grow our economy for the benefit win when we grow our economy for the benefit of win when we grow our economy for the benefit of all win when we grow our economy for the benefit of all New win when we grow our economy for the benefit of all New Zealanders. win when we grow our economy for the benefit of all New Zealanders. With benefit of all New Zealanders. With petrol benefit of all New Zealanders. With petrol prices benefit of all New Zealanders. With petrol prices hitting benefit of all New Zealanders. With petrol prices hitting record benefit of all New Zealanders. 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We have a big reform agenda in place to make life better agenda in place to make life better for agenda in place to make life better for renters, agenda in place to make life better for renters, and agenda in place to make life better for renters, and landlords, agenda in place to make life better for renters, and landlords, and agenda in place to make life better for renters, and landlords, and we for renters, and landlords, and we are for renters, and landlords, and we are committed for renters, and landlords, and we are committed to for renters, and landlords, and we are committed to striking for renters, and landlords, and we are committed to striking the for renters, and landlords, and we are committed to striking the right are committed to striking the right balance are committed to striking the right balance between are committed to striking the right balance between a are committed to striking the right balance between a tenant's are committed to striking the right balance between a tenant's right are committed to striking the right balance between a tenant's right to balance between a tenant's right to make balance between a tenant's right to make a balance between a tenant's right to make a house balance between a tenant's right to make a house a balance between a tenant's right to make a house a home, balance between a tenant's right to make a house a home, while balance between a tenant's right to make a house a home, while ensuring make a house a home, while ensuring make a house a home, while ensuring make a house a home, while ensuring that landlords make a house a home, while ensuring that landlords can make a house a home, while ensuring that landlords can still make a house a home, while ensuring that landlords can still get make a house a home, while ensuring that landlords can still get rid make a house a home, while ensuring that landlords can still get rid of that landlords can still get rid of rogue that landlords can still get rid of rogue tenants that landlords can still get rid of rogue tenants and that landlords can still get rid of rogue tenants and protect that landlords can still get rid of rogue tenants and protect their rogue tenants and protect their asset. rogue tenants and protect their asset. 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Well, expect them to go up even more next year? Well, Mr expect them to go up even more next year? Well, Mr Speaker, expect them to go up even more next year? Well, Mr Speaker, MBIE expect them to go up even more next year? Well, Mr Speaker, MBIE data year? Well, Mr Speaker, MBIE data show year? Well, Mr Speaker, MBIE data show that year? Well, Mr Speaker, MBIE data show that is year? Well, Mr Speaker, MBIE data show that is average year? Well, Mr Speaker, MBIE data show that is average rents year? Well, Mr Speaker, MBIE data show that is average rents for year? Well, Mr Speaker, MBIE data show that is average rents for new show that is average rents for new tenancies show that is average rents for new tenancies in show that is average rents for new tenancies in Auckland show that is average rents for new tenancies in Auckland sat show that is average rents for new tenancies in Auckland sat at show that is average rents for new tenancies in Auckland sat at $543 show that is average rents for new tenancies in Auckland sat at $543 a tenancies in Auckland sat at $543 a week tenancies in Auckland sat at $543 a week in tenancies in Auckland sat at $543 a week in August. tenancies in Auckland sat at $543 a week in August. Only tenancies in Auckland sat at $543 a week in August. Only $7 tenancies in Auckland sat at $543 a week in August. Only $7 up tenancies in Auckland sat at $543 a week in August. Only $7 up from tenancies in Auckland sat at $543 a week in August. Only $7 up from the week in August. Only $7 up from the same week in August. Only $7 up from the same period week in August. Only $7 up from the same period last week in August. Only $7 up from the same period last year, week in August. Only $7 up from the same period last year, and week in August. Only $7 up from the same period last year, and down week in August. Only $7 up from the same period last year, and down from same period last year, and down from $550 same period last year, and down from $550 in same period last year, and down from $550 in June. same period last year, and down from $550 in June. In same period last year, and down from $550 in June. In Wellington, same period last year, and down from $550 in June. In Wellington, they $550 in June. In Wellington, they were $550 in June. In Wellington, they were at $550 in June. In Wellington, they were at $442 $550 in June. In Wellington, they were at $442 a $550 in June. In Wellington, they were at $442 a week $550 in June. In Wellington, they were at $442 a week in $550 in June. 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Mr Speaker, Tenancies Act 1986? Mr Speaker, there Tenancies Act 1986? Mr Speaker, there have Tenancies Act 1986? Mr Speaker, there have been Tenancies Act 1986? Mr Speaker, there have been over Tenancies Act 1986? Mr Speaker, there have been over 2,000 Tenancies Act 1986? Mr Speaker, there have been over 2,000 completed there have been over 2,000 completed submissions there have been over 2,000 completed submissions and there have been over 2,000 completed submissions and a there have been over 2,000 completed submissions and a further there have been over 2,000 completed submissions and a further 1,800 submissions and a further 1,800 submissions submissions and a further 1,800 submissions are submissions and a further 1,800 submissions are under submissions and a further 1,800 submissions are under way. submissions and a further 1,800 submissions are under way. I submissions and a further 1,800 submissions are under way. I want submissions and a further 1,800 submissions are under way. I want to submissions are under way. I want to encourage submissions are under way. I want to encourage every submissions are under way. I want to encourage every landlord submissions are under way. I want to encourage every landlord and submissions are under way. I want to encourage every landlord and tenant encourage every landlord and tenant to encourage every landlord and tenant to tell encourage every landlord and tenant to tell us encourage every landlord and tenant to tell us their encourage every landlord and tenant to tell us their views encourage every landlord and tenant to tell us their views on encourage every landlord and tenant to tell us their views on how encourage every landlord and tenant to tell us their views on how we encourage every landlord and tenant to tell us their views on how we can to tell us their views on how we can strike to tell us their views on how we can strike the to tell us their views on how we can strike the right to tell us their views on how we can strike the right balance to tell us their views on how we can strike the right balance between to tell us their views on how we can strike the right balance between a strike the right balance between a tenant's strike the right balance between a tenant's right strike the right balance between a tenant's right to strike the right balance between a tenant's right to make strike the right balance between a tenant's right to make a strike the right balance between a tenant's right to make a house strike the right balance between a tenant's right to make a house a tenant's right to make a house a home tenant's right to make a house a home while tenant's right to make a house a home while ensuring tenant's right to make a house a home while ensuring that tenant's right to make a house a home while ensuring that landlords home while ensuring that landlords can home while ensuring that landlords can still home while ensuring that landlords can still get home while ensuring that landlords can still get rid home while ensuring that landlords can still get rid of home while ensuring that landlords can still get rid of rogue home while ensuring that landlords can still get rid of rogue tenants can still get rid of rogue tenants and can still get rid of rogue tenants and look can still get rid of rogue tenants and look after can still get rid of rogue tenants and look after their can still get rid of rogue tenants and look after their asset. can still get rid of rogue tenants and look after their asset. 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Mr Speaker, our goal, our policy goal, and my expectation, year? Mr Speaker, our goal, our policy goal, and my expectation, is policy goal, and my expectation, is that policy goal, and my expectation, is that the policy goal, and my expectation, is that the housing policy goal, and my expectation, is that the housing market policy goal, and my expectation, is that the housing market under policy goal, and my expectation, is that the housing market under our that the housing market under our policies that the housing market under our policies will that the housing market under our policies will stabilise that the housing market under our policies will stabilise both that the housing market under our policies will stabilise both for policies will stabilise both for house policies will stabilise both for house prices policies will stabilise both for house prices and policies will stabilise both for house prices and rents. policies will stabilise both for house prices and rents. And policies will stabilise both for house prices and rents. And as policies will stabilise both for house prices and rents. And as I house prices and rents. And as I said house prices and rents. And as I said before, house prices and rents. And as I said before, Reserve house prices and rents. And as I said before, Reserve Bank house prices and rents. 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KiwiBuild focused on increasing the supply of housing. KiwiBuild is focused on increasing the supply of housing. KiwiBuild is ramping focused on increasing the supply of housing. KiwiBuild is ramping up, housing. KiwiBuild is ramping up, and housing. KiwiBuild is ramping up, and we housing. KiwiBuild is ramping up, and we are housing. KiwiBuild is ramping up, and we are increasing housing. KiwiBuild is ramping up, and we are increasing the housing. KiwiBuild is ramping up, and we are increasing the number housing. KiwiBuild is ramping up, and we are increasing the number of and we are increasing the number of public and we are increasing the number of public houses and we are increasing the number of public houses through and we are increasing the number of public houses through Budget and we are increasing the number of public houses through Budget 2018. public houses through Budget 2018. In public houses through Budget 2018. In Auckland public houses through Budget 2018. In Auckland, public houses through Budget 2018. In Auckland, there public houses through Budget 2018. In Auckland, there were public houses through Budget 2018. In Auckland, there were 12,959 public houses through Budget 2018. In Auckland, there were 12,959 new In Auckland, there were 12,959 new building In Auckland, there were 12,959 new building consents In Auckland, there were 12,959 new building consents in In Auckland, there were 12,959 new building consents in the In Auckland, there were 12,959 new building consents in the year In Auckland, there were 12,959 new building consents in the year to building consents in the year to August building consents in the year to August 2018 building consents in the year to August 2018 - building consents in the year to August 2018 - a building consents in the year to August 2018 - a record building consents in the year to August 2018 - a record for building consents in the year to August 2018 - a record for Auckland August 2018 - a record for Auckland that August 2018 - a record for Auckland that eclipsed August 2018 - a record for Auckland that eclipsed the August 2018 - a record for Auckland that eclipsed the last August 2018 - a record for Auckland that eclipsed the last record August 2018 - a record for Auckland that eclipsed the last record set August 2018 - a record for Auckland that eclipsed the last record set in that eclipsed the last record set in 2004 that eclipsed the last record set in 2004 under that eclipsed the last record set in 2004 under the that eclipsed the last record set in 2004 under the Clarke that eclipsed the last record set in 2004 under the Clarke Labour 2004 under the Clarke Labour Government. 2004 under the Clarke Labour Government. Does 2004 under the Clarke Labour Government. Does he 2004 under the Clarke Labour Government. Does he still 2004 under the Clarke Labour Government. Does he still say 2004 under the Clarke Labour Government. Does he still say if Government. Does he still say if property Government. Does he still say if property investors Government. Does he still say if property investors don't Government. Does he still say if property investors don't like Government. Does he still say if property investors don't like the property investors don't like the proposed property investors don't like the proposed changes property investors don't like the proposed changes they property investors don't like the proposed changes they should property investors don't like the proposed changes they should "put proposed changes they should "put their proposed changes they should "put their money proposed changes they should "put their money elsewhere" proposed changes they should "put their money elsewhere" as proposed changes they should "put their money elsewhere" as reported their money elsewhere" as reported by their money elsewhere" as reported by media their money elsewhere" as reported by media last their money elsewhere" as reported by media last month? their money elsewhere" as reported by media last month? Mr their money elsewhere" as reported by media last month? Mr Speaker, their money elsewhere" as reported by media last month? Mr Speaker, a by media last month? Mr Speaker, a country by media last month? Mr Speaker, a country needs by media last month? Mr Speaker, a country needs good by media last month? Mr Speaker, a country needs good landlords by media last month? Mr Speaker, a country needs good landlords and, country needs good landlords and, lucky country needs good landlords and, lucky for country needs good landlords and, lucky for us, country needs good landlords and, lucky for us, most country needs good landlords and, lucky for us, most landlords country needs good landlords and, lucky for us, most landlords are lucky for us, most landlords are good lucky for us, most landlords are good people lucky for us, most landlords are good people trying lucky for us, most landlords are good people trying to lucky for us, most landlords are good people trying to do lucky for us, most landlords are good people trying to do the lucky for us, most landlords are good people trying to do the right good people trying to do the right thing good people trying to do the right thing and good people trying to do the right thing and provide good people trying to do the right thing and provide a good people trying to do the right thing and provide a service. good people trying to do the right thing and provide a service. Our thing and provide a service. Our policy, thing and provide a service. Our policy, in thing and provide a service. Our policy, in contrast thing and provide a service. Our policy, in contrast to thing and provide a service. Our policy, in contrast to the thing and provide a service. Our policy, in contrast to the party policy, in contrast to the party sitting policy, in contrast to the party sitting opposite, policy, in contrast to the party sitting opposite, is policy, in contrast to the party sitting opposite, is to policy, in contrast to the party sitting opposite, is to set policy, in contrast to the party sitting opposite, is to set decent sitting opposite, is to set decent minimum sitting opposite, is to set decent minimum standards sitting opposite, is to set decent minimum standards for sitting opposite, is to set decent minimum standards for the sitting opposite, is to set decent minimum standards for the 21st minimum standards for the 21st century minimum standards for the 21st century that minimum standards for the 21st century that will minimum standards for the 21st century that will professionalise century that will professionalise the century that will professionalise the rental century that will professionalise the rental market century that will professionalise the rental market and century that will professionalise the rental market and clean century that will professionalise the rental market and clean out century that will professionalise the rental market and clean out the the rental market and clean out the road the rental market and clean out the road operators the rental market and clean out the road operators at the rental market and clean out the road operators at the the rental market and clean out the road operators at the bot the rental market and clean out the road operators at the bot dom the rental market and clean out the road operators at the bot dom of the rental market and clean out the road operators at the bot dom of the road operators at the bot dom of the market road operators at the bot dom of the market -- road operators at the bot dom of the market -- bottom road operators at the bot dom of the market -- bottom of road operators at the bot dom of the market -- bottom of the road operators at the bot dom of the market -- bottom of the market road operators at the bot dom of the market -- bottom of the market who market -- bottom of the market who are market -- bottom of the market who are undercutting market -- bottom of the market who are undercutting good market -- bottom of the market who are undercutting good landlords market -- bottom of the market who are undercutting good landlords and are undercutting good landlords and giving are undercutting good landlords and giving the are undercutting good landlords and giving the whole are undercutting good landlords and giving the whole industry are undercutting good landlords and giving the whole industry a are undercutting good landlords and giving the whole industry a bad giving the whole industry a bad name. giving the whole industry a bad name. Question giving the whole industry a bad name. Question no. giving the whole industry a bad name. Question no. 5, giving the whole industry a bad name. Question no. 5, Tinetti. giving the whole industry a bad name. Question no. 5, Tinetti. -- name. Question no. 5, Tinetti. -- Jan name. Question no. 5, Tinetti. -- Jan Tinetti. Jan Tinetti. <SPEAKS Jan Tinetti. <SPEAKS TE Jan Tinetti. <SPEAKS TE REO Jan Tinetti. <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Education: My question is to the Minister of Education: What My question is to the Minister of Education: What challenges, My question is to the Minister of Education: What challenges, if My question is to the Minister of Education: What challenges, if any, Education: What challenges, if any, does Education: What challenges, if any, does the Education: What challenges, if any, does the Government Education: What challenges, if any, does the Government face Education: What challenges, if any, does the Government face to Education: What challenges, if any, does the Government face to ensure does the Government face to ensure that does the Government face to ensure that there does the Government face to ensure that there are does the Government face to ensure that there are enough does the Government face to ensure that there are enough teachers does the Government face to ensure that there are enough teachers in that there are enough teachers in classrooms that there are enough teachers in classrooms next that there are enough teachers in classrooms next year? The The Hon The Hon Chris The Hon Chris Hipkins. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, the The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, the first The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, the first challenge The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, the first challenge that The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, the first challenge that we The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, the first challenge that we face The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, the first challenge that we face was the first challenge that we face was a the first challenge that we face was a lack the first challenge that we face was a lack of the first challenge that we face was a lack of reliable the first challenge that we face was a lack of reliable information the first challenge that we face was a lack of reliable information on a lack of reliable information on the a lack of reliable information on the extent a lack of reliable information on the extent of a lack of reliable information on the extent of teacher a lack of reliable information on the extent of teacher shortages. a lack of reliable information on the extent of teacher shortages. On the extent of teacher shortages. On becoming the extent of teacher shortages. On becoming Minister, the extent of teacher shortages. On becoming Minister, I the extent of teacher shortages. On becoming Minister, I asked the extent of teacher shortages. On becoming Minister, I asked for the extent of teacher shortages. On becoming Minister, I asked for a becoming Minister, I asked for a detailed becoming Minister, I asked for a detailed model becoming Minister, I asked for a detailed model and becoming Minister, I asked for a detailed model and forecast becoming Minister, I asked for a detailed model and forecast to becoming Minister, I asked for a detailed model and forecast to be detailed model and forecast to be done detailed model and forecast to be done and detailed model and forecast to be done and for detailed model and forecast to be done and for the detailed model and forecast to be done and for the education detailed model and forecast to be done and for the education sector detailed model and forecast to be done and for the education sector to done and for the education sector to be done and for the education sector to be consulted done and for the education sector to be consulted on done and for the education sector to be consulted on that. done and for the education sector to be consulted on that. Modelling be consulted on that. Modelling shows be consulted on that. Modelling shows that be consulted on that. Modelling shows that without be consulted on that. Modelling shows that without further be consulted on that. Modelling shows that without further action, shows that without further action, we shows that without further action, we could shows that without further action, we could be shows that without further action, we could be up shows that without further action, we could be up to shows that without further action, we could be up to 650 shows that without further action, we could be up to 650 primary shows that without further action, we could be up to 650 primary and we could be up to 650 primary and 200 we could be up to 650 primary and 200 secondary we could be up to 650 primary and 200 secondary teachers we could be up to 650 primary and 200 secondary teachers short we could be up to 650 primary and 200 secondary teachers short at we could be up to 650 primary and 200 secondary teachers short at the 200 secondary teachers short at the beginning 200 secondary teachers short at the beginning of 200 secondary teachers short at the beginning of next 200 secondary teachers short at the beginning of next year. 200 secondary teachers short at the beginning of next year. With 200 secondary teachers short at the beginning of next year. With this beginning of next year. With this information, beginning of next year. With this information, we're beginning of next year. With this information, we're now beginning of next year. With this information, we're now able beginning of next year. With this information, we're now able to beginning of next year. With this information, we're now able to work information, we're now able to work with information, we're now able to work with schools information, we're now able to work with schools with information, we're now able to work with schools with much information, we're now able to work with schools with much greater with schools with much greater certainty with schools with much greater certainty to with schools with much greater certainty to address with schools with much greater certainty to address the with schools with much greater certainty to address the shortage certainty to address the shortage that certainty to address the shortage that we certainty to address the shortage that we inherited. that we inherited. What that we inherited. What announcements that we inherited. What announcements has that we inherited. What announcements has the that we inherited. What announcements has the Coalition What announcements has the Coalition Government What announcements has the Coalition Government made What announcements has the Coalition Government made that What announcements has the Coalition Government made that will What announcements has the Coalition Government made that will get What announcements has the Coalition Government made that will get the Government made that will get the additional Government made that will get the additional teachers Government made that will get the additional teachers needed Government made that will get the additional teachers needed for Government made that will get the additional teachers needed for next additional teachers needed for next year? We We is We is made We is made three We is made three significant We is made three significant announcements We is made three significant announcements since We is made three significant announcements since becoming We is made three significant announcements since becoming the We is made three significant additional We is made three significant Government. The first We is made three significant Government. The first in We is made three significant Government. The first in December, We is made three significant another with We is made three significant another with the We is made three significant another with the budget We is made three significant another with the budget and We is made three significant another with the budget and then another with the budget and then another with the budget and then another with the budget and then latest other another with the budget and then latest other the another with the budget and then latest other the weekend. another with the budget and then latest other the weekend. As another with the budget and then latest other the weekend. As a latest other the weekend. As a result, latest other the weekend. As a result, we latest other the weekend. As a result, we are latest other the weekend. As a result, we are fully latest other the weekend. As a result, we are fully - latest other the weekend. As a result, we are fully - we latest other the weekend. As a result, we are fully - we have latest other the weekend. As a result, we are fully - we have fully result, we are fully - we have fully paid result, we are fully - we have fully paid for result, we are fully - we have fully paid for refresher result, we are fully - we have fully paid for refresher training result, we are fully - we have fully paid for refresher training for paid for refresher training for 1,250 paid for refresher training for 1,250 teachers paid for refresher training for 1,250 teachers whose paid for refresher training for 1,250 teachers whose registration 1,250 teachers whose registration would 1,250 teachers whose registration paid 1,250 teachers whose registration would otherwise have 1,250 teachers whose registration would otherwise have expired. 1,250 teachers whose registration would otherwise have expired. We would otherwise have expired. We have would otherwise have expired. We have approved would otherwise have expired. We have approved nearly would otherwise have expired. We have approved nearly 200 would otherwise have expired. We have approved nearly 200 overseas have approved nearly 200 overseas relocation have approved nearly 200 overseas relocation grants have approved nearly 200 overseas relocation grants with have approved nearly 200 overseas relocation grants with a have approved nearly 200 overseas relocation grants with a lot have approved nearly 200 overseas relocation grants with a lot more have approved nearly 200 overseas relocation grants with a lot more to relocation grants with a lot more to come relocation grants with a lot more to come and relocation grants with a lot more to come and we relocation grants with a lot more to come and we have relocation grants with a lot more to come and we have provided relocation grants with a lot more to come and we have provided better come and we have provided better support come and we have provided better support for come and we have provided better support for beginning come and we have provided better support for beginning teachers come and we have provided better support for beginning teachers so come and we have provided better support for beginning teachers so we support for beginning teachers so we don't support for beginning teachers so we don't continue support for beginning teachers so we don't continue to support for beginning teachers so we don't continue to lose support for beginning teachers so we don't continue to lose the support for beginning teachers so we don't continue to lose the one support for beginning teachers so we don't continue to lose the one in don't continue to lose the one in five don't continue to lose the one in don't don't continue to lose the one in five teacher graduates don't continue to lose the one in five teacher graduates who don't continue to lose the one in five teacher graduates who have don't continue to lose the one in five teacher graduates who have been five teacher graduates who have been finishing five teacher graduates who have been finishing their five teacher graduates who have been finishing their qualifications five teacher graduates who have been finishing their qualifications but finishing their qualifications but not finishing their qualifications but not making finishing their qualifications but not making it finishing their qualifications but not making it to finishing their qualifications but not making it to the finishing their qualifications but not making it to the classroom. finishing their qualifications but not making it to the classroom. What not making it to the classroom. What is not making it to the classroom. What is the not making it to the classroom. What is the Coalition not making it to the classroom. What is the Coalition Government not making it to the classroom. What is the Coalition Government doing not making it to the classroom. What is the Coalition Government doing to is the Coalition Government doing to ensure is the Coalition Government doing to ensure a is the Coalition Government doing to ensure a sustainable is the Coalition Government doing to ensure a sustainable supply is the Coalition Government doing to ensure a sustainable supply of ensure a sustainable supply of teachers ensure a sustainable supply of teachers in ensure a sustainable supply of teachers in the ensure a sustainable supply of teachers in the long ensure a sustainable supply of teachers in the long term. ensure a sustainable supply of teachers in the long term. The ensure a sustainable supply of teachers in the long term. The first teachers in the long term. The first thing teachers in the long term. The first thing we teachers in the long term. The first thing we needed teachers in the long term. The first thing we needed to teachers in the long term. The first thing we needed to do teachers in the long term. The first thing we needed to do to teachers in the long term. The first thing we needed to do to ensure teachers in the long term. The first thing we needed to do to ensure a thing we needed to do to ensure a long thing we needed to do to ensure a long term thing we needed to do to ensure a long term supply thing we needed to do to ensure a long term supply of thing we needed to do to ensure a long term supply of teachers thing we needed to do to ensure a long term supply of teachers was thing we needed to do to ensure a long term supply of teachers was to long term supply of teachers was to ensure long term supply of teachers was to ensure we long term supply of teachers was to ensure we had long term supply of teachers was to ensure we had accurate long term supply of teachers was to ensure we had accurate forecasting ensure we had accurate forecasting and ensure we had accurate forecasting and modelling. ensure we had accurate forecasting and modelling. Now ensure we had accurate forecasting and modelling. Now we ensure we had accurate forecasting and modelling. Now we have ensure we had accurate forecasting and modelling. Now we have that ensure we had accurate forecasting and modelling. Now we have that the and modelling. Now we have that the work and modelling. Now we have that the work on and modelling. Now we have that the work on the and modelling. Now we have that the work on the longer and modelling. Now we have that the work on the longer term and modelling. Now we have that the work on the longer term workforce work on the longer term workforce planning work on the longer term workforce planning is work on the longer term workforce planning is well work on the longer term workforce planning is well underway work on the longer term workforce planning is well underway and work on the longer term workforce planning is well underway and I work on the longer term workforce planning is well underway and I am planning is well underway and I am confident planning is well underway and I am confident that planning is well underway and I am confident that that planning is well underway and I am confident that that workforce confident that that workforce strategy confident that that workforce strategy will confident that that workforce strategy will ensure confident that that workforce strategy will ensure we confident that that workforce strategy will ensure we have confident that that workforce strategy will ensure we have a strategy will ensure we have a sustainable strategy will ensure we have a sustainable teaching strategy will ensure we have a sustainable teaching workforce strategy will ensure we have a sustainable teaching workforce and sustainable teaching workforce and an sustainable teaching workforce and an education sustainable teaching workforce and an education workforce sustainable teaching workforce and an education workforce to sustainable teaching workforce and an education workforce to support an education workforce to support them an education workforce to support them well an education workforce to support them well into an education workforce to support them well into the an education workforce to support them well into the future. an education workforce to support them well into the future. Question them well into the future. Question them well into the future. Question them them well them well into them well into the them well into the future. them well into the future. Question them well into the future. Question No.6. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Transport: My question is to the Minister of Transport: How My question is to the Minister of Transport: How much My question is to the Minister of Transport: How much of My question is to the Minister of Transport: How much of the My question is to the Minister of Transport: How much of the increase Transport: How much of the increase in Transport: How much of the increase in fuel Transport: How much of the increase in fuel prices Transport: How much of the increase in fuel prices since Transport: How much of the increase in fuel prices since the Transport: How much of the increase in fuel prices since the Government in fuel prices since the Government took in fuel prices since the Government took office in fuel prices since the Government took office does in fuel prices since the Government took office does he in fuel prices since the Government took office does he attribute in fuel prices since the Government took office does he attribute to took office does he attribute to taxes took office does he attribute to taxes and took office does he attribute to taxes and levies? Since Since the Since the Government Since the Government came Since the Government came to Since the Government came to office, Since the Government came to office, it's Since the Government came to office, it's made Since the Government came to office, it's made two Since the Government came to office, it's made two decisions Since the Government came to office, it's made two decisions regarding it's made two decisions regarding it's made two decisions regarding it's made two decisions regarding taxation on it's made two decisions regarding taxation on fuel. it's made two decisions regarding taxation on fuel. Legislation it's made two decisions regarding taxation on fuel. Legislation was taxation on fuel. Legislation was passed taxation on fuel. Legislation was passed allowing taxation on fuel. Legislation was passed allowing Auckland taxation on fuel. Legislation was passed allowing Auckland Council taxation on fuel. Legislation was passed allowing Auckland Council to passed allowing Auckland Council to collect passed allowing Auckland Council to collect a passed allowing Auckland Council to collect a regional passed allowing Auckland Council to collect a regional fuel passed allowing Auckland Council to collect a regional fuel tax passed allowing Auckland Council to collect a regional fuel tax of passed allowing Auckland Council to collect a regional fuel tax of 10 collect a regional fuel tax of 10 cents collect a regional fuel tax of 10 cents a collect a regional fuel tax of 10 cents a litre. collect a regional fuel tax of 10 cents a litre. This collect a regional fuel tax of 10 cents a litre. This will collect a regional fuel tax of 10 cents a litre. This will fund cents a litre. This will fund projects cents a litre. This will fund projects including cents a litre. This will fund projects including Mill cents a litre. This will fund projects including Mill Road, projects including Mill Road, Penlink projects including Mill Road, Penlink and projects including Mill Road, Penlink and $550 projects including Mill Road, Penlink and $550 million projects including Mill Road, Penlink and $550 million worth projects including Mill Road, Penlink and $550 million worth of Penlink and $550 million worth of safety Penlink and $550 million worth of safety improvements Penlink and $550 million worth of safety improvements at Penlink and $550 million worth of safety improvements at a Penlink and $550 million worth of safety improvements at a cost safety improvements at a cost of safety improvements at a cost safety improvements at a cost of $2.630 a safety improvements at a cost of $2.630 a week safety improvements at a cost of $2.630 a week to safety improvements at a cost of $2.630 a week to -- safety improvements at a cost of $2.630 a week to -- 2.60 safety improvements at a cost of $2.630 a week to -- 2.60 a safety improvements at a cost of $2.630 a week to -- 2.60 a week safety improvements at a cost of $2.630 a week to -- 2.60 a week to $2.630 a week to -- 2.60 a week to the $2.630 a week to -- 2.60 a week to the average $2.630 a week to -- 2.60 a week to the average Auckland $2.630 a week to -- 2.60 a week to the average Auckland household. $2.630 a week to -- 2.60 a week to the average Auckland household. The the average Auckland household. The new the average Auckland household. The new excise the average Auckland household. The new excise will the average Auckland household. The new excise will enable the average Auckland household. The new excise will enable the new excise will enable the Government new excise will enable the Government to new excise will enable the Government to make new excise will enable the Government to make safety new excise will enable the Government to make safety upgrades, Government to make safety upgrades, invest Government to make safety upgrades, invest in Government to make safety upgrades, invest in neglected Government to make safety upgrades, invest in neglected regional Government to make safety upgrades, invest in neglected regional roads invest in neglected regional roads and invest in neglected regional roads and tackle invest in neglected regional roads and tackle congestion invest in neglected regional roads and tackle congestion at invest in neglected regional roads and tackle congestion at a invest in neglected regional roads and tackle congestion at a cost invest in neglected regional roads and tackle congestion at a cost of and tackle congestion at a cost of 75 and tackle congestion at a cost of 75 cents and tackle congestion at a cost of 75 cents a and tackle congestion at a cost of 75 cents a week and tackle congestion at a cost of 75 cents a week to and tackle congestion at a cost of 75 cents a week to the and tackle congestion at a cost of 75 cents a week to the average 75 cents a week to the average household. 75 cents a week to the average household. For 75 cents a week to the average household. For context, 75 cents a week to the average household. For context, the 75 cents a week to the average household. For context, the pre-tax household. For context, the pre-tax cost household. For context, the pre-tax cost of household. For context, the pre-tax cost of petrol household. For context, the pre-tax cost of petrol has household. For context, the pre-tax cost of petrol has risen household. For context, the pre-tax cost of petrol has risen by household. For context, the pre-tax cost of petrol has risen by 35 household. For context, the pre-tax cost of petrol has risen by 35 cents cost of petrol has risen by 35 cents in cost of petrol has risen by 35 cents in the cost of petrol has risen by 35 cents in the past cost of petrol has risen by 35 cents in the past year, cost of petrol has risen by 35 cents in the past year, including cost of petrol has risen by 35 cents in the past year, including a cost of petrol has risen by 35 cents in the past year, including a 9 cost of petrol has risen by 35 cents in the past year, including a 9 cent in the past year, including a 9 cent a in the past year, including a 9 cent a litre in the past year, including a 9 cent a litre rise in the past year, including a 9 cent a litre rise in in the past year, including a 9 cent a litre rise in importer in the past year, including a 9 cent a litre rise in importer margins. in the past year, including a 9 cent a litre rise in importer margins. A a litre rise in importer margins. A point a litre rise in importer margins. A point of a litre rise in importer margins. A point of order. a litre rise in importer margins. A point of order. A a litre rise in importer margins. A point of order. A point a litre rise in importer margins. A point of order. A point of a litre rise in importer margins. A point of order. A point of order, point of order. A point of order, the point of order. A point of order, the Hon point of order. A point of order, the Hon Paul point of order. A point of order, the Hon Paul Goldsmith. point of order. A point of order, the Hon Paul Goldsmith. This point of order. A point of order, the Hon Paul Goldsmith. This was point of order. A point of order, the Hon Paul Goldsmith. This was a the Hon Paul Goldsmith. This was a question the Hon Paul Goldsmith. This was a question on the Hon Paul Goldsmith. This was a question on notice the Hon Paul Goldsmith. This was a question on notice of the Hon Paul Goldsmith. This was a question on notice of how the Hon Paul Goldsmith. This was a question on notice of how much the Hon Paul Goldsmith. This was a question on notice of how much of question on notice of how much of the question on notice of how much of the increase question on notice of how much of the increase of question on notice of how much of the increase of fuel question on notice of how much of the increase of fuel prices question on notice of how much of the increase of fuel prices does question on notice of how much of the increase of fuel prices does he the increase of fuel prices does he attribute the increase of fuel prices does he attribute to the increase of fuel prices does he attribute to taxes the increase of fuel prices does he attribute to taxes and the increase of fuel prices does he attribute to taxes and levies. the increase of fuel prices does he attribute to taxes and levies. He attribute to taxes and levies. He has attribute to taxes and levies. He has given attribute to taxes and levies. He has given us attribute to taxes and levies. He has given us two attribute to taxes and levies. He has given us two figures attribute to taxes and levies. He has given us two figures but attribute to taxes and levies. 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I am going to ask the minister to have another go and he minister to have another go and he can minister to have another go and he can give minister to have another go and he can give us minister to have another go and he can give us one minister to have another go and he can give us one of minister to have another go and he can give us one of two minister to have another go and he can give us one of two figures, minister to have another go and he can give us one of two figures, the can give us one of two figures, the percentage can give us one of two figures, the percentage or can give us one of two figures, the percentage or the can give us one of two figures, the percentage or the number. can give us one of two figures, the percentage or the number. Sir, can give us one of two figures, the percentage or the number. Sir, could percentage or the number. Sir, could you percentage or the number. Sir, could you repeat percentage or the number. Sir, could you repeat that percentage or the number. Sir, could you repeat that again? percentage or the number. Sir, could you repeat that again? I'm you repeat that again? I'm suggesting you repeat that again? I'm suggesting that you repeat that again? I'm suggesting that the you repeat that again? I'm suggesting that the member you repeat that again? I'm suggesting that the member answer suggesting that the member answer the suggesting that the member answer the question suggesting that the member answer the question directly. suggesting that the member answer the question directly. He suggesting that the member answer the question directly. He can suggesting that the member answer the question directly. He can either the question directly. He can either give the question directly. He can either give a the question directly. He can either give a number the question directly. He can either give a number in the question directly. He can either give a number in cents the question directly. He can either give a number in cents or the question directly. He can either give a number in cents or he the question directly. He can either give a number in cents or he can give a number in cents or he can give give a number in cents or he can give a give a number in cents or he can give a number give a number in cents or he can give a number in give a number in cents or he can give a number in the give a number in cents or he can give a number in the percentage give a number in the percentage change. give a number in the percentage change. The give a number in the percentage change. The Government's give a number in the percentage change. The Government's made give a number in the percentage change. The Government's made two change. The Government's made two decisions change. The Government's made two decisions regarding change. The Government's made two decisions regarding taxation change. The Government's made two decisions regarding taxation on decisions regarding taxation on fuel. decisions regarding taxation on fuel. The decisions regarding taxation on fuel. The first decisions regarding taxation on fuel. The first is decisions regarding taxation on fuel. The first is 10 decisions regarding taxation on fuel. The first is 10 cents decisions regarding taxation on fuel. The first is 10 cents a decisions regarding taxation on fuel. The first is 10 cents a litre fuel. The first is 10 cents a litre plus fuel. The first is 10 cents a litre plus GST, fuel. The first is 10 cents a litre plus GST, an fuel. The first is 10 cents a litre plus GST, an excise fuel. The first is 10 cents a litre plus GST, an excise increase fuel. The first is 10 cents a litre plus GST, an excise increase of fuel. The first is 10 cents a litre plus GST, an excise increase of 3.5 plus GST, an excise increase of 3.5 cents plus GST, an excise increase of 3.5 cents a plus GST, an excise increase of 3.5 cents a litre plus GST, an excise increase of 3.5 cents a litre plus plus GST, an excise increase of 3.5 cents a litre plus GST plus GST, an excise increase of 3.5 cents a litre plus GST in plus GST, an excise increase of 3.5 cents a litre plus GST in comparison cents a litre plus GST in comparison to cents a litre plus GST in comparison to that, cents a litre plus GST in comparison to that, 35 cents a litre plus GST in comparison to that, 35 cents cents a litre plus GST in comparison to that, 35 cents increase cents a litre plus GST in comparison to that, 35 cents increase in cents a litre plus GST in comparison to that, 35 cents increase in the to that, 35 cents increase in the pre-tax to that, 35 cents increase in the pre-tax cost to that, 35 cents increase in the pre-tax cost of to that, 35 cents increase in the pre-tax cost of petrol. pre-tax cost of petrol. Supplementary, pre-tax cost of petrol. Supplementary, Mr pre-tax cost of petrol. Supplementary, Mr Speaker. pre-tax cost of petrol. Supplementary, Mr Speaker. So pre-tax cost of petrol. Supplementary, Mr Speaker. So does Supplementary, Mr Speaker. So does he Supplementary, Mr Speaker. So does Supplementary, Supplementary, Mr Speaker. So does he agree that Supplementary, Mr Speaker. So does he agree that the Supplementary, Mr Speaker. So does he agree that the PM's Supplementary, Mr Speaker. So does he agree that the PM's summation Supplementary, Mr Speaker. So does he agree that the PM's summation on he agree that the PM's summation on 8 he agree that the PM's summation on 8 October he agree that the PM's summation on 8 October that he agree that the PM's summation on 8 October that taxes he agree that the PM's summation on 8 October that taxes and he agree that the PM's summation on 8 October that taxes and levies 8 October that taxes and levies amounted 8 October that taxes and levies amounted to 8 October that taxes and levies amounted to 6.8 8 October that taxes and levies amounted to 6.8 cents 8 October that taxes and levies amounted to 6.8 cents was 8 October that taxes and levies amounted to 6.8 cents was wrong? 8 October that taxes and levies amounted to 6.8 cents was wrong? I amounted to 6.8 cents was wrong? I think amounted to 6.8 cents was wrong? I think the amounted to 6.8 cents was wrong? I think the PM amounted to 6.8 cents was wrong? I think the PM provided amounted to 6.8 cents was wrong? I think the PM provided the amounted to 6.8 cents was wrong? I think the PM provided the context think the PM provided the context and think the PM provided the context and should think the PM provided the context and should have think the PM provided the context and should have eliminated think the PM provided the context and should have eliminated any and should have eliminated any doubts and should have eliminated any doubts the and should have eliminated any doubts the member and should have eliminated any doubts the member had and should have eliminated any doubts the member had about and should have eliminated any doubts the member had about her doubts the member had about her statement doubts the member had about her statement in doubts the member had about her statement in the doubts the member had about her statement in the press doubts the member had about her statement in the press conference statement in the press conference that statement in the press conference that the statement in the press conference that the PM statement in the press conference that the PM gave, statement in the press conference that the PM gave, she statement in the press conference that the PM gave, she used statement in the press conference that the PM gave, she used figures that the PM gave, she used figures for that the PM gave, she used figures for the that the PM gave, she used figures for the share that the PM gave, she used figures for the share of that the PM gave, she used figures for the share of the that the PM gave, she used figures for the share of the increase that the PM gave, she used figures for the share of the increase in for the share of the increase in petrol for the share of the increase in petrol prices for the share of the increase in petrol prices that for the share of the increase in petrol prices that had for the share of the increase in petrol prices that had gone for the share of the increase in petrol prices that had gone to petrol prices that had gone to central petrol prices that had gone to central Government petrol prices that had gone to central Government in petrol prices that had gone to central Government in the petrol prices that had gone to central Government in the year petrol prices that had gone to central Government in the year to petrol prices that had gone to central Government in the year to 28 central Government in the year to 28 September, central Government in the year to 28 September, the central Government in the year to 28 September, the latest central Government in the year to 28 September, the latest for central Government in the year to 28 September, the latest for which central Government in the year to 28 September, the latest for which data September, the latest for which data was September, the latest for which data was available. September, the latest for which data was available. This September, the latest for which data was available. This was September, the latest for which data was available. This was made September, the latest for which data was available. This was made up September, the latest for which data was available. This was made up of was available. This was made up of an was available. This was made up of an increase was available. This was made up of an increase in was available. This was made up of an increase in the was available. This was made up of an increase in the ETS was available. This was made up of an increase in the ETS charge was available. This was made up of an increase in the ETS charge and an increase in the ETS charge and GST, an increase in the ETS charge and GST, both an increase in the ETS charge and GST, both of an increase in the ETS charge and GST, both of which an increase in the ETS charge and GST, both of which were an increase in the ETS charge and GST, both of which were set an increase in the ETS charge and GST, both of which were set by an increase in the ETS charge and GST, both of which were set by the GST, both of which were set by the previous GST, both of which were set by the previous Government. GST, both of which were set by the previous Government. Now GST, both of which were set by the previous Government. Now obviously previous Government. Now obviously at previous Government. Now obviously at that previous Government. Now obviously at that time previous Government. Now obviously at that time the previous Government. Now obviously at that time the excise previous Government. Now obviously at that time the excise increase previous Government. Now obviously at that time the excise increase had at that time the excise increase had not at that time the excise increase had not then at that time the excise increase had not then come at that time the excise increase had not then come into at that time the excise increase had not then come into effect. at that time the excise increase had not then come into effect. The not then come into effect. The regional not then come into effect. The regional fuel not then come into effect. The regional fuel tax not then come into effect. The regional fuel tax goes not then come into effect. The regional fuel tax goes to not then come into effect. The regional fuel tax goes to Auckland regional fuel tax goes to Auckland Council, regional fuel tax goes to Auckland Council, not regional fuel tax goes to Auckland Council, not central regional fuel tax goes to Auckland Council, not central Government. regional fuel tax goes to Auckland Council, not central Government. As Council, not central Government. As the Council, not central Government. As the PM Council, not central Government. As the PM has Council, not central Government. As the PM has said, Council, not central Government. As the PM has said, accounting Council, not central Government. As the PM has said, accounting for Council, not central Government. As the PM has said, accounting for fuel the PM has said, accounting for fuel excise the PM has said, accounting for fuel excise increases, the PM has said, accounting for fuel excise increases, New the PM has said, accounting for fuel excise increases, New Zealand's excise increases, New Zealand's taxes excise increases, New Zealand's taxes are excise increases, New Zealand's taxes are the excise increases, New Zealand's taxes are the sixth excise increases, New Zealand's taxes are the sixth lowest excise increases, New Zealand's taxes are the sixth lowest in excise increases, New Zealand's taxes are the sixth lowest in the taxes are the sixth lowest in the OECD taxes are the sixth lowest in the OECD and taxes are the sixth lowest in the OECD and including taxes are the sixth lowest in the OECD and including the taxes are the sixth lowest in the OECD and including the regional taxes are the sixth lowest in the OECD and including the regional fuel OECD and including the regional fuel tax, OECD and including the regional fuel tax, Auckland's OECD and including the regional fuel tax, Auckland's are OECD and including the regional fuel tax, Auckland's are the OECD and including the regional fuel tax, Auckland's are the tenth tax, Auckland's are the tenth lowest. tax, Auckland's are the tenth lowest. As tax, Auckland's are the tenth lowest. As the tax, Auckland's are the tenth lowest. As the PM tax, Auckland's are the tenth lowest. As the PM also tax, Auckland's are the tenth lowest. As the PM also pointed tax, Auckland's are the tenth lowest. As the PM also pointed out lowest. As the PM also pointed out the lowest. As the PM also pointed out the lion's lowest. As the PM also pointed out the lion's share lowest. As the PM also pointed out the lion's share of lowest. As the PM also pointed out the lion's share of the lowest. As the PM also pointed out the lion's share of the increase lowest. As the PM also pointed out the lion's share of the increase in the lion's share of the increase in petrol the lion's share of the increase in petrol prices the lion's share of the increase in petrol prices in the lion's share of the increase in petrol prices in the the lion's share of the increase in petrol prices in the last the lion's share of the increase in petrol prices in the last year the lion's share of the increase in petrol prices in the last year is petrol prices in the last year is due petrol prices in the last year is due to petrol prices in the last year is due to the petrol prices in the last year is due to the pre-tax petrol prices in the last year is due to the pre-tax cost, petrol prices in the last year is due to the pre-tax cost, not due to the pre-tax cost, not Government due to the pre-tax cost, not Government revenue due to the pre-tax cost, not Government revenue measures. Government revenue measures. Supplementary. Government revenue measures. Supplementary. So Government revenue measures. Supplementary. So what Government revenue measures. Supplementary. So what the Government revenue measures. Supplementary. So what the PM's Supplementary. So what the PM's summation Supplementary. So what the PM's summation wrong? Supplementary. So what the PM's summation wrong? The Supplementary. So what the PM's summation wrong? The PM's Supplementary. So what the PM's summation wrong? The PM's summation summation wrong? The PM's summation was summation wrong? The PM's summation was correct. summation wrong? The PM's summation was correct. So summation wrong? The PM's summation was correct. So is summation wrong? The PM's summation was correct. So is he summation wrong? The PM's summation was correct. So is he proud summation wrong? The PM's summation was correct. So is he proud that summation wrong? The PM's summation was correct. So is he proud that his was correct. So is he proud that his Government was correct. So is he proud that his Government is was correct. So is he proud that his Government is collecting was correct. So is he proud that his Government is collecting at was correct. So is he proud that his Government is collecting at least was correct. So is he proud that his Government is collecting at least an Government is collecting at least an extra Government is collecting at least an extra 10 Government is collecting at least an extra 10 cents Government is collecting at least an extra 10 cents a Government is collecting at least an extra 10 cents a litre Government is collecting at least an extra 10 cents a litre outside Government is collecting at least an extra 10 cents a litre outside of extra 10 cents a litre outside of Auckland extra 10 cents a litre outside of Auckland and extra 10 cents a litre outside of Auckland and more extra 10 cents a litre outside of Auckland and more than extra 10 cents a litre outside of Auckland and more than 20 extra 10 cents a litre outside of Auckland and more than 20 cents extra 10 cents a litre outside of Auckland and more than 20 cents a Auckland and more than 20 cents a litre Auckland and more than 20 cents a litre in Auckland and more than 20 cents a litre in Auckland Auckland and more than 20 cents a litre in Auckland at Auckland and more than 20 cents a litre in Auckland at a Auckland and more than 20 cents a litre in Auckland at a time Auckland and more than 20 cents a litre in Auckland at a time when litre in Auckland at a time when households litre in Auckland at a time when households are litre in Auckland at a time when households are already litre in Auckland at a time when households are already under households are already under pressure? households are already under pressure? I'm households are already under pressure? I'm proud households are already under pressure? I'm proud that households are already under pressure? I'm proud that this pressure? I'm proud that this Government pressure? I'm proud that this Government is pressure? I'm proud that this Government is making pressure? I'm proud that this Government is making the pressure? I'm proud that this Government is making the investments Government is making the investments that Government is making the investments that the Government is making the investments that the country Government is making the investments that the country desperately that the country desperately needs that the country desperately that the country desperately needs in Auckland that the country desperately needs in Auckland to that the country desperately needs in Auckland to get that the country desperately needs in Auckland to get the that the country desperately needs in Auckland to get the city that the country desperately needs in Auckland to get the city moving in Auckland to get the city moving we in Auckland to get the city moving we are in Auckland to get the city moving we are addressing in Auckland to get the city moving we are addressing the in Auckland to get the city moving we are addressing the infrastructure we are addressing the infrastructure deficit we are addressing the infrastructure deficit that we are addressing the infrastructure deficit that we we are addressing the infrastructure deficit that we inherited we are addressing the infrastructure deficit that we inherited after we are addressing the infrastructure deficit that we inherited after Nine deficit that we inherited after Nine years deficit that we inherited after Nine years of deficit that we inherited after Nine years of neglect. deficit that we inherited after Nine years of neglect. We deficit that we inherited after Nine years of neglect. We are deficit that we inherited after Nine years of neglect. We are investing years of neglect. We are investing in years of neglect. We are investing in safety years of neglect. We are investing in safety more years of neglect. We are investing in safety more than years of neglect. We are investing in safety more than any years of neglect. We are investing in safety more than any other in safety more than any other Government in safety more than any other Government in in safety more than any other Government in New in safety more than any other Government in New Zealand in safety more than any other Government in New Zealand history. Government in New Zealand history. We're Government in New Zealand history. We're building Government in New Zealand history. We're building modern Government in New Zealand history. We're building modern public We're building modern public Government We're building modern public transport systems. We're We're building modern public transport systems. We're investing transport systems. We're investing in transport systems. We're investing in the transport systems. We're investing in the rail transport systems. We're investing in the rail network transport systems. We're investing in the rail network - transport systems. We're investing in the rail network - this in the rail network - this Government in the rail network - this Government is in the rail network - this Government is making in the rail network - this Government is making the in the rail network - this Government is making the decisions Government is making the decisions Government is making the decisions Government is making the decisions to support Government is making the decisions to support economic Government is making the decisions to support economic growth Government is making the decisions to support economic growth for Government is making the decisions to support economic growth for this to support economic growth for this country to support economic growth for this country by to support economic growth for this country by investing to support economic growth for this country by investing in to support economic growth for this country by investing in transport country by investing in transport infrastructure. country by investing in transport infrastructure. Supplementary. country by investing in transport infrastructure. Supplementary. So infrastructure. Supplementary. So why infrastructure. Supplementary. So why is infrastructure. Supplementary. So why is he infrastructure. Supplementary. So why is he not infrastructure. Supplementary. So why is he not prepared infrastructure. Supplementary. So why is he not prepared to infrastructure. Supplementary. So why is he not prepared to accept why is he not prepared to accept that why is he not prepared to accept that the why is he not prepared to accept that the Government why is he not prepared to accept that the Government legislated that the Government legislated that the Government legislated that the Government legislated Auckland regional that the Government legislated Auckland regional fuel that the Government legislated Auckland regional fuel tax that the Government legislated Auckland regional fuel tax has that the Government legislated Auckland regional fuel tax has not Auckland regional fuel tax has not added Auckland regional fuel tax has not added extra Auckland regional fuel tax has not added extra cost Auckland regional fuel tax has not added extra cost to Auckland regional fuel tax has not added extra cost to New Auckland regional fuel tax has not added extra cost to New Zealanders added extra cost to New Zealanders and added extra cost to New Zealanders and their added extra cost to New Zealanders and their motoring. added extra cost to New Zealanders and their motoring. I added extra cost to New Zealanders and their motoring. I reject added extra cost to New Zealanders and their motoring. I reject the and their motoring. I reject the premise and their motoring. I reject the premise of and their motoring. I reject the premise of the and their motoring. I reject the premise of the member's and their motoring. I reject the premise of the member's question. premise of the member's question. Why premise of the member's question. Why does premise of the member's question. Why does he premise of the member's question. Why does he not premise of the member's question. Why does he not consider premise of the member's question. Why does he not consider using premise of the member's question. Why does he not consider using other Why does he not consider using other Government Why does he not consider using other Government funds Why does he not consider using other Government funds for Why does he not consider using other Government funds for significant Government funds for significant transport Government funds for significant transport infrastructure, Government funds for significant transport infrastructure, as Government funds for significant transport infrastructure, as the transport infrastructure, as the previous transport infrastructure, as the previous Government transport infrastructure, as the previous Government did transport infrastructure, as the previous Government did with transport infrastructure, as the previous Government did with the previous Government did with the Central previous Government did with the Central Rail previous Government did with the Central Rail Link, previous Government did with the Central Rail Link, rather previous Government did with the Central Rail Link, rather than Central Rail Link, rather than adding Central Rail Link, rather than Central Central Rail Link, rather than adding new taxes? Central Rail Link, rather than adding new taxes? I Central Rail Link, rather than adding new taxes? I did Central Rail Link, rather than adding new taxes? I did note Central Rail Link, rather than adding new taxes? I did note that adding new taxes? I did note that the adding new taxes? I did note that the opposition adding new taxes? I did note that the opposition has adding new taxes? I did note that the opposition has called adding new taxes? I did note that the opposition has called for adding new taxes? I did note that the opposition has called for an the opposition has called for an abandonment the opposition has called for an abandonment of the opposition has called for an abandonment of the the opposition has called for an abandonment of the fuel the opposition has called for an abandonment of the fuel excise the opposition has called for an abandonment of the fuel excise and abandonment of the fuel excise and the abandonment of the fuel excise and the use abandonment of the fuel excise and the use of abandonment of the fuel excise and the use of one abandonment of the fuel excise and the use of one year's abandonment of the fuel excise and the use of one year's budget the use of one year's budget surplus. the use of one year's budget surplus. I the use of one year's budget surplus. I would the use of one year's budget surplus. I would point the use of one year's budget surplus. I would point out the use of one year's budget surplus. I would point out to the use of one year's budget surplus. I would point out to the surplus. I would point out to the member surplus. I would point out to the member that surplus. I would point out to the member that since surplus. I would point out to the member that since 1927, surplus. I would point out to the member that since 1927, fuel surplus. I would point out to the member that since 1927, fuel excise member that since 1927, fuel excise has member that since 1927, fuel excise has been member that since 1927, fuel excise has been the member that since 1927, fuel excise has been the main member that since 1927, fuel excise has been the main funding member that since 1927, fuel excise has been the main funding source member that since 1927, fuel excise has been the main funding source for has been the main funding source for transport has been the main funding source for transport and has been the main funding source for transport and since has been the main funding source for transport and since the has been the main funding source for transport and since the last transport and since the last Labourer transport and since the last Labourer Government transport and since the last Labourer Government it transport and since the last Labourer Government it has transport and since the last Labourer Government it has been Labourer Government it has been Labourer Government it has been Labourer Government it has been fully hypothecated. Labourer Government it has been fully hypothecated. Every Labourer Government it has been fully hypothecated. Every single fully hypothecated. Every single dollar fully hypothecated. Every single Labourer fully hypothecated. Every single dollar raised by fully hypothecated. Every single dollar raised by the fully hypothecated. Every single dollar raised by the fuel fully hypothecated. Every single dollar raised by the fuel excise fully hypothecated. Every single dollar raised by the fuel excise and dollar raised by the fuel excise and road dollar raised by the fuel excise and road user dollar raised by the fuel excise and road user charges dollar raised by the fuel excise and road user charges goes dollar raised by the fuel excise and road user charges goes into road user charges goes into investment road user charges goes into investment the road user charges goes into investment the transport road user charges goes into investment the transport system. road user charges goes into investment the transport system. It investment the transport system. It has investment the transport system. It has provided investment the transport system. It has provided a investment the transport system. It has provided a stable investment the transport system. It has provided a stable and investment the transport system. It has provided a stable and dependable has provided a stable and dependable source has provided a stable and dependable source of has provided a stable and dependable source of funding has provided a stable and dependable source of funding that has provided a stable and dependable source of funding that was has provided a stable and dependable source of funding that was utilised source of funding that was utilised very source of funding that was utilised very effectively source of funding that was utilised very effectively when source of funding that was utilised very effectively when Simon source of funding that was utilised very effectively when Simon Bridges very effectively when Simon Bridges was very effectively when Simon Bridges was the very effectively when Simon Bridges was the Minister very effectively when Simon Bridges was the Minister of very effectively when Simon Bridges was the Minister of Transport. very effectively when Simon Bridges was the Minister of Transport. Under was the Minister of Transport. Under that was the Minister of Transport. Under that party was the Minister of Transport. Under that party when was the Minister of Transport. Under that party when they was the Minister of Transport. Under that party when they were was the Minister of Transport. Under that party when they were in was the Minister of Transport. Under that party when they were in office, that party when they were in office, six that party when they were in office, six excise that party when they were in office, six excise increases, that party when they were in office, six excise increases, 17 that party when they were in office, six excise increases, 17 cents, six excise increases, 17 cents, including six excise increases, 17 cents, including GST six excise increases, 17 cents, including GST were six excise increases, 17 cents, including GST were added six excise increases, 17 cents, including GST were added A six excise increases, 17 cents, including GST were added A point six excise increases, 17 cents, including GST were added A point of including GST were added A point of order. including GST were added A point of order. A including GST were added A point of order. A point including GST were added A point of order. A point of including GST were added A point of order. A point of order. including GST were added A point of order. A point of order. The order. A point of order. The minister order. A point of order. The minister is order. A point of order. The minister is giving order. A point of order. The minister is giving a order. A point of order. The minister is giving a speech order. A point of order. The minister is giving a speech on order. A point of order. The minister is giving a speech on a minister is giving a speech on a totally minister is giving a speech on a totally unrelated minister is giving a speech on a totally unrelated topic. minister is giving a speech on a totally unrelated topic. I minister is giving a speech on a totally unrelated topic. I asked totally unrelated topic. I asked him... totally unrelated topic. I asked him... Order! totally unrelated topic. I asked him... Order! It totally unrelated topic. I asked him... Order! It is totally unrelated topic. I asked him... Order! It is a totally unrelated topic. I asked him... Order! It is a point totally unrelated topic. I asked him... Order! It is a point of him... Order! It is a point of order. him... Order! It is a point of order. I him... Order! It is a point of order. I asked him... Order! It is a point of order. I asked him him... Order! It is a point of order. I asked him why him... Order! It is a point of order. I asked him why did him... Order! It is a point of order. I asked him why did he him... Order! It is a point of order. I asked him why did he not order. I asked him why did he not consider order. I asked him why did he not consider using order. I asked him why did he not consider using other order. I asked him why did he not consider using other Government consider using other Government funds consider using other Government funds for consider using other Government funds for significant consider using other Government funds for significant transport funds for significant transport infrastructure funds for significant transport infrastructure and funds for significant transport infrastructure and he funds for significant transport infrastructure and he is funds for significant transport infrastructure and he is talking infrastructure and he is talking about infrastructure and he is talking about something infrastructure and he is talking about something that infrastructure and he is talking about something that the infrastructure and he is talking about something that the previous about something that the previous Government about something that the previous Government did about something that the previous Government did with about something that the previous Government did with its about something that the previous Government did with its fuel about something that the previous Government did with its fuel excise. Government did with its fuel excise. I Government did with its fuel excise. I think Government did with its fuel excise. I think the Government did with its fuel excise. I think the minister Government did with its fuel excise. I think the minister was Government did with its fuel excise. I think the minister was talking I think the minister was talking about I think the minister was talking about precedent I think the minister was talking about precedent and I think the minister was talking about precedent and I I think the minister was talking about precedent and I think I think the minister was talking about precedent and I think that's about precedent and I think that's fair. about precedent and I think that's fair. Does about precedent and I think that's fair. Does the about precedent and I think that's fair. Does the minister about precedent and I think that's fair. Does the minister want about precedent and I think that's fair. Does the minister want to fair. Does the minister want to continue? fair. Does the minister want to continue? Question fair. Does the minister want to continue? Question No.7. continue? continue? Question continue? Question No.7. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Education: My question is to the Minister of Education: Has My question is to the Minister of Education: Has the My question is to the Minister of Education: Has the Government My question is to the Minister of Education: Has the Government made My question is to the Minister of Education: Has the Government made a Education: Has the Government made a decision Education: Has the Government made a decision to Education: Has the Government made a decision to rule Education: Has the Government made a decision to rule out Education: Has the Government made a decision to rule out an Education: Has the Government made a decision to rule out an increase Education: Has the Government made a decision to rule out an increase in decision to rule out an increase in the decision to rule out an increase in the pay decision to rule out an increase in the pay offer decision to rule out an increase in the pay offer for decision to rule out an increase in the pay offer for secondary decision to rule out an increase in the pay offer for secondary or the pay offer for secondary or primary the pay offer for secondary or primary school the pay offer for secondary or primary school teachers the pay offer for secondary or primary school teachers in the pay offer for secondary or primary school teachers in the primary school teachers in the current primary school teachers in the current collective primary school teachers in the current collective bargaining current collective bargaining negotiations? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, the Mr Speaker, the Ministry Mr Speaker, the Ministry of Mr Speaker, the Ministry of Education Mr Speaker, the Ministry of Education is Mr Speaker, the Ministry of Education is continuing Mr Speaker, the Ministry of Education is continuing to Mr Speaker, the Ministry of Education is continuing to negotiate Education is continuing to negotiate with Education is continuing to negotiate with the Education is continuing to negotiate with the NZEI Education is continuing to negotiate with the NZEI and Education is continuing to negotiate with the NZEI and the Education is continuing to negotiate with the NZEI and the PPTA Education is continuing to negotiate with the NZEI and the PPTA and Education is continuing to negotiate with the NZEI and the PPTA and as with the NZEI and the PPTA and as the with the NZEI and the PPTA and as the former with the NZEI and the PPTA and as the former minister, with the NZEI and the PPTA and as the former minister, I'm with the NZEI and the PPTA and as the former minister, I'm sure with the NZEI and the PPTA and as the former minister, I'm sure is the former minister, I'm sure is aware, the former minister, I'm sure is aware, it the former minister, I'm sure is aware, it would the former minister, I'm sure is aware, it would be the former minister, I'm sure is aware, it would be inappropriate the former minister, I'm sure is aware, it would be inappropriate to aware, it would be inappropriate to comment aware, it would be inappropriate to comment on aware, it would be inappropriate to comment on the aware, it would be inappropriate to comment on the ministry's aware, it would be inappropriate to comment on the ministry's bargaining comment on the ministry's bargaining mandate. comment on the ministry's bargaining mandate. Supplementary comment on the ministry's bargaining mandate. Supplementary question. mandate. Supplementary question. Does mandate. Supplementary question. Does he mandate. Supplementary question. Does he agree mandate. Supplementary question. Does he agree with mandate. Supplementary question. Does he agree with the mandate. Supplementary question. Does he agree with the Ministry mandate. Supplementary question. Does he agree with the Ministry of Does he agree with the Ministry of Does he agree with the Ministry of Does he agree with the Ministry of Education's decision Does he agree with the Ministry of Education's decision to Does he agree with the Ministry of Education's decision to refuse Does he agree with the Ministry of Education's decision to refuse to Education's decision to refuse to provide Education's decision to refuse to provide the Education's decision to refuse to provide the financial Education's decision to refuse to provide the financial breakdown Education's decision to refuse to provide the financial breakdown of provide the financial breakdown of offers provide the financial breakdown of offers despite provide the financial breakdown of offers despite NZEI provide the financial breakdown of offers despite NZEI and provide the financial breakdown of offers despite NZEI and PPTA offers despite NZEI and PPTA asking offers despite NZEI and PPTA offers despite NZEI and PPTA asking for this offers despite NZEI and PPTA asking for this information offers despite NZEI and PPTA asking for this information on offers despite NZEI and PPTA asking for this information on behalf offers despite NZEI and PPTA asking for this information on behalf of for this information on behalf of their for this information on behalf of their 40,000 for this information on behalf of their 40,000 teachers? for this information on behalf of their 40,000 teachers? 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Does he agree with the decision Supplementary question. Does he agree with the decision by Supplementary question. Does he agree with the decision by this agree with the decision by this Government agree with the decision by this Government to agree with the decision by this Government to spend agree with the decision by this Government to spend $191 agree with the decision by this Government to spend $191 million agree with the decision by this Government to spend $191 million of Government to spend $191 million of surplus Government to spend $191 million of surplus funds Government to spend $191 million of surplus funds on Government to spend $191 million of surplus funds on diplomats Government to spend $191 million of surplus funds on diplomats such Government to spend $191 million of surplus funds on diplomats such as surplus funds on diplomats such as New surplus funds on diplomats such as New Zealand's surplus funds on diplomats such as New Zealand's embassy surplus funds on diplomats such as New Zealand's embassy in surplus funds on diplomats such as New Zealand's embassy in Stockholm New Zealand's embassy in Stockholm rather New Zealand's embassy in Stockholm rather than New Zealand's embassy in Stockholm rather than additional New Zealand's embassy in Stockholm rather than additional teacher New Zealand's embassy in Stockholm rather than additional teacher pay? rather than additional teacher pay? 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Does he still consider for this minister. Does he still consider that for this minister. Does he still consider that the for this minister. Does he still consider that the current for this minister. Does he still consider that the current offer for this minister. Does he still consider that the current offer to consider that the current offer to NZEI consider that the current offer to NZEI was consider that the current offer to NZEI was a consider that the current offer to NZEI was a good consider that the current offer to NZEI was a good offer consider that the current offer to NZEI was a good offer and, consider that the current offer to NZEI was a good offer and, if consider that the current offer to NZEI was a good offer and, if so, NZEI was a good offer and, if so, why? NZEI was a good offer and, if so, why? Yes, NZEI was a good offer and, if so, why? Yes, I NZEI was a good offer and, if so, why? Yes, I do. NZEI was a good offer and, if so, why? Yes, I do. The NZEI was a good offer and, if so, why? Yes, I do. The current NZEI was a good offer and, if so, why? Yes, I do. The current offer NZEI was a good offer and, if so, why? Yes, I do. The current offer to why? Yes, I do. The current offer to NZEI, why? Yes, I do. The current offer to NZEI, the why? Yes, I do. The current offer to NZEI, the primary why? Yes, I do. The current offer to NZEI, the primary school why? Yes, I do. The current offer to NZEI, the primary school teachers NZEI, the primary school teachers would NZEI, the primary school teachers would result NZEI, the primary school teachers would result in NZEI, the primary school teachers would result in a NZEI, the primary school teachers would result in a $7,043 NZEI, the primary school teachers would result in a $7,043 increase NZEI, the primary school teachers would result in a $7,043 increase to would result in a $7,043 increase to the would result in a $7,043 increase to the top would result in a $7,043 increase to the top step, would result in a $7,043 increase to the top step, withcy would result in a $7,043 increase to the top step, withcy the would result in a $7,043 increase to the top step, withcy the step would result in a $7,043 increase to the top step, withcy the step that the top step, withcy the step that most the top step, withcy the step that most primary the top step, withcy the step that most primary school the top step, withcy the step that most primary school teachers the top step, withcy the step that most primary school teachers are the top step, withcy the step that most primary school teachers are on. most primary school teachers are on. most primary school teachers are on. most primary school teachers are on. To put most primary school teachers are on. To put that most primary school teachers are on. To put that into most primary school teachers are on. To put that into contrast, most primary school teachers are on. To put that into contrast, the most primary school teachers are on. To put that into contrast, the last To put that into contrast, the last three To put that into contrast, the last three agreements To put that into contrast, the last three agreements put To put that into contrast, the last three agreements put together three agreements put together resulted three agreements put together resulted in three agreements put together resulted in an three agreements put together resulted in an increase three agreements put together resulted in an increase to three agreements put together resulted in an increase to the three agreements put together resulted in an increase to the top resulted in an increase to the top step resulted in an increase to the top step of resulted in an increase to the top step of $6,969, resulted in an increase to the top step of $6,969, less resulted in an increase to the top step of $6,969, less than resulted in an increase to the top step of $6,969, less than the resulted in an increase to the top step of $6,969, less than the amount step of $6,969, less than the amount that step of $6,969, less than the amount that is step of $6,969, less than the amount that is being step of $6,969, less than the amount that is being offered step of $6,969, less than the amount that is being offered in step of $6,969, less than the amount that is being offered in one that is being offered in one agreement. that is being offered in one agreement. 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Does he accept that the additional funds accept that the additional funds through accept that the additional funds accept accept that the additional funds through collective bargaining accept that the additional funds through collective bargaining to through collective bargaining to resolve through collective bargaining to resolve teacher through collective bargaining to resolve teacher shortages, through collective bargaining to resolve teacher shortages, given through collective bargaining to resolve teacher shortages, given the resolve teacher shortages, given the resolve resolve teacher shortages, given the Ministry of Education resolve teacher shortages, given the Ministry of Education numbers resolve teacher shortages, given the Ministry of Education numbers alone Ministry of Education numbers alone indicate Ministry of Education numbers alone indicate that Ministry of Education numbers alone indicate that over Ministry of Education numbers alone indicate that over the Ministry of Education numbers alone indicate that over the coming Ministry of Education numbers alone indicate that over the coming years indicate that over the coming years there indicate that over the coming years there could indicate that over the coming years there could be indicate that over the coming years there could be a indicate that over the coming years there could be a shortage indicate that over the coming years there could be a shortage of indicate that over the coming years there could be a shortage of more there could be a shortage of more than there could be a shortage of more than 4,000 there could be a shortage of more than 4,000 teachers? there could be a shortage of more than 4,000 teachers? The there could be a shortage of more than 4,000 teachers? The shortage than 4,000 teachers? The shortage that than 4,000 teachers? The shortage that we than 4,000 teachers? The shortage that we inherited than 4,000 teachers? The shortage that we inherited is than 4,000 teachers? The shortage that we inherited is very than 4,000 teachers? The shortage that we inherited is very concerning that we inherited is very concerning and that we inherited is very concerning and it that we inherited is very concerning and it is that we inherited is very concerning and it is an that we inherited is very concerning and it is an indictment that we inherited is very concerning and it is an indictment on that we inherited is very concerning and it is an indictment on the that we inherited is very concerning and it is an indictment on the track and it is an indictment on the track record and it is an indictment on the track record of and it is an indictment on the track record of the and it is an indictment on the track record of the previous and it is an indictment on the track record of the previous Government record of the previous Government that record of the previous Government that they record of the previous Government that they cut record of the previous Government that they cut funding record of the previous Government that they cut funding for record of the previous Government that they cut funding for teacher that they cut funding for teacher supply that they cut funding for teacher supply initiatives that they cut funding for teacher supply initiatives and that they cut funding for teacher supply initiatives and that that they cut funding for teacher supply initiatives and that is that they cut funding for teacher supply initiatives and that is the supply initiatives and that is the mess supply initiatives and that is the mess that supply initiatives and that is the mess that we supply initiatives and that is the mess that we are supply initiatives and that is the mess that we are cleaning supply initiatives and that is the mess that we are cleaning up. supply initiatives and that is the mess that we are cleaning up. 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In negotiating about working conditions. In fact, negotiating about working conditions. In fact, the negotiating about working conditions. In fact, the 2% negotiating about working conditions. In fact, the 2% is negotiating about working conditions. In fact, the 2% is only conditions. In fact, the 2% is only for conditions. In fact, the 2% is only for some conditions. In fact, the 2% is only for some of conditions. In fact, the 2% is only for some of the conditions. In fact, the 2% is only for some of the secondary conditions. In fact, the 2% is only for some of the secondary teachers. for some of the secondary teachers. There for some of the secondary teachers. There is for some of the secondary teachers. There is a for some of the secondary teachers. There is a range for some of the secondary teachers. There is a range of for some of the secondary teachers. 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The move on the salary band as well. The Rt move on the salary band as well. The Rt Hon move on the salary band as well. The Rt Hon Winston move on the salary band as well. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. move on the salary band as well. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. I move on the salary band as well. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. I want move on the salary band as well. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. I want to Rt Hon Winston Peters. I want to assure Rt Hon Winston Peters. I want to assure the Rt Hon Winston Peters. I want to assure the member Rt Hon Winston Peters. I want to assure the member that Rt Hon Winston Peters. I want to assure the member that he Rt Hon Winston Peters. I want to assure the member that he is assure the member that he is noticeable assure the member that he is noticeable and assure the member that he is noticeable and I assure the member that he is noticeable and I do assure the member that he is noticeable and I do see assure the member that he is noticeable and I do see him. assure the member that he is noticeable and I do see him. Yes, noticeable and I do see him. Yes, but noticeable and I do see him. Yes, but it noticeable and I do see him. Yes, but it goes noticeable and I do see him. Yes, but it goes this noticeable and I do see him. Yes, but it goes this way noticeable and I do see him. Yes, but it goes this way and noticeable and I do see him. Yes, but it goes this way and that noticeable and I do see him. Yes, but it goes this way and that way but it goes this way and that way and but it goes this way and that way and it but it goes this way and that way and it goes but it goes this way and that way and it goes on but it goes this way and that way and it goes on seniority but it goes this way and that way and it goes on seniority and but it goes this way and that way and it goes on seniority and I but it goes this way and that way and it goes on seniority and I don't and it goes on seniority and I don't want and it goes on seniority and I don't want to and it goes on seniority and I don't want to push and it goes on seniority and I don't want to push the and it goes on seniority and I don't want to push the point. and it goes on seniority and I don't want to push the point. No, and it goes on seniority and I don't want to push the point. No, it and it goes on seniority and I don't want to push the point. No, it goes want to push the point. No, it goes on want to push the point. No, it goes on two want to push the point. No, it goes on two I want to push the point. No, it goes on two I call. want to push the point. No, it goes on two I call. No, want to push the point. No, it goes on two I call. No, sir, want to push the point. No, it goes on two I call. No, sir, it want to push the point. No, it goes on two I call. No, sir, it goes want to push the point. No, it goes on two I call. No, sir, it goes on on two I call. No, sir, it goes on precedent. on two I call. No, sir, it goes on precedent. I on two I call. No, sir, it goes on precedent. I assure on two I call. No, sir, it goes on precedent. I assure the on two I call. No, sir, it goes on precedent. I assure the member on two I call. No, sir, it goes on precedent. I assure the member that precedent. I assure the member that Standing precedent. I assure the member that Standing Orders precedent. I assure the member that Standing Orders and precedent. I assure the member that Standing Orders and Speaker's Standing Orders and Speaker's rulings Standing Orders and Speaker's rulings are Standing Orders and Speaker's rulings are very Standing Orders and Speaker's rulings are very clear, Standing Orders and Speaker's rulings are very clear, the Standing Orders and Speaker's rulings are very clear, the decision rulings are very clear, the decision who rulings are very clear, the decision who to rulings are very clear, the decision who to take rulings are very clear, the decision who to take for rulings are very clear, the decision who to take for supplementaries rulings are very clear, the decision who to take for supplementaries is who to take for supplementaries is mine who to take for supplementaries is mine and who to take for supplementaries is mine and mine who to take for supplementaries is mine and mine ray who to take for supplementaries is mine and mine ray lone. who to take for supplementaries is mine and mine ray lone. 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Could I ask the minister, for a teacher to enter the teaching for a teacher to enter the teaching force for a teacher to enter the teaching force in for a teacher to enter the teaching force in 2019, for a teacher to enter the teaching force in 2019, when for a teacher to enter the teaching force in 2019, when would for a teacher to enter the teaching force in 2019, when would that force in 2019, when would that teacher force in 2019, when would that teacher have force in 2019, when would that teacher have had force in 2019, when would that teacher have had to force in 2019, when would that teacher have had to enter force in 2019, when would that teacher have had to enter the teacher have had to enter the teacher have had to enter the teacher have had to enter the teaching training teacher have had to enter the teaching training college teacher have had to enter the teaching training college to teacher have had to enter the teaching training college to get teaching training college to get skilled teaching training college to get skilled and teaching training college to get skilled and qualified teaching training college to get skilled and qualified and teaching training college to get skilled and qualified and how teaching training college to get skilled and qualified and how many skilled and qualified and how many short skilled and qualified and how many short were skilled and qualified and how many short were we skilled and qualified and how many short were we back skilled and qualified and how many short were we back in skilled and qualified and how many short were we back in 2016? skilled and qualified and how many short were we back in 2016? There short were we back in 2016? There was short were we back in 2016? There was a short were we back in 2016? There was a 40% short were we back in 2016? There was a 40% reduction short were we back in 2016? There was a 40% reduction over short were we back in 2016? There was a 40% reduction over the short were we back in 2016? 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It is at least one year of teacher education. It is at least one year of specific teacher education. It is at least one year of specific teacher one year of specific teacher one year of specific teacher one year of specific teacher training to one year of specific teacher training to become one year of specific teacher training to become a one year of specific teacher training to become a registered training to become a registered training to become a registered training to become a registered teacher, for training to become a registered teacher, for some training to become a registered teacher, for some it training to become a registered teacher, for some it is training to become a registered teacher, for some it is up training to become a registered teacher, for some it is up to training to become a registered teacher, for some it is up to three teacher, for some it is up to three years teacher, for some it is up to three years of teacher, for some it is up to three years of training teacher, for some it is up to three years of training depending teacher, for some it is up to three years of training depending on teacher, for some it is up to three years of training depending on the years of training depending on the qualification years of training depending on the qualification that years of training depending on the qualification that they years of training depending on the qualification that they are years of training depending on the qualification that they are doing. qualification that they are doing. Supplementary qualification that they are doing. Supplementary question. qualification that they are doing. Supplementary question. Can qualification that they are doing. Supplementary question. Can he Supplementary question. Can he confirm Supplementary question. Can he confirm he's Supplementary question. Can he confirm he's been Supplementary question. Can he confirm he's been advised Supplementary question. Can he confirm he's been advised of Supplementary question. Can he confirm he's been advised of planned confirm he's been advised of planned rolling confirm he's been advised of planned rolling strikes confirm he's been advised of planned rolling strikes in confirm he's been advised of planned rolling strikes in November confirm he's been advised of planned rolling strikes in November for rolling strikes in November for primary rolling strikes in November for primary school rolling strikes in November for primary school teachers rolling strikes in November for primary school teachers and rolling strikes in November for primary school teachers and the primary school teachers and the potential primary school teachers and the potential of primary school teachers and the potential of other primary school teachers and the potential of other strikes primary school teachers and the potential of other strikes for potential of other strikes for secondary potential of other strikes for potential potential of other strikes for secondary early next potential of other strikes for secondary early next year potential of other strikes for secondary early next year and potential of other strikes for secondary early next year and at secondary early next year and at secondary early next year and at secondary early next year and at what point secondary early next year and at what point will secondary early next year and at what point will he secondary early next year and at what point will he take secondary early next year and at what point will he take any what point will he take any responsibility what point will he take any responsibility for what point will he take any responsibility for no what point will he take any responsibility for no settlement? what point will he take any responsibility for no settlement? 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Because the NZEI are balloting their members and question - no. Because the NZEI are balloting their members and they balloting their members and they cannot balloting their members and they cannot notify balloting their members and they cannot notify us balloting their members and they cannot notify us until balloting their members and they cannot notify us until the balloting their members and they cannot notify us until the ballot cannot notify us until the ballot has cannot notify us until the ballot has been cannot notify us until the ballot has been conducted. cannot notify us until the ballot has been conducted. Generally cannot notify us until the ballot has been conducted. Generally that's has been conducted. Generally that's the has been conducted. Generally that's the way has been conducted. Generally that's the way of has been conducted. Generally that's the way of things has been conducted. Generally that's the way of things in has been conducted. 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Question inherited from that minister and her previous Government. Question No.8. previous previous Government. previous Government. Question previous Government. Question No.8. INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: Question INTERPRETER: Question to INTERPRETER: Question to the INTERPRETER: Question to the Minister INTERPRETER: Question to the Minister of INTERPRETER: Question to the Minister of Commerce INTERPRETER: Question to the Minister of Commerce and INTERPRETER: Question to the Minister of Commerce and Consumer Affairs. previous Affairs. My Affairs. My question Affairs. My question is Affairs. My question is to Affairs. My question is to the Affairs. My question is to the Minister Affairs. 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Yes make our country the best place to raise a child. Yes No.9. raise raise a raise a child. raise a child. Yes raise a child. Yes No.9. 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Briefing, aids memoir or other documents that reference other documents that reference recommendations other documents that reference recommendations that other documents that reference recommendations that the recommendations that the reprioritised recommendations that the reprioritised funds recommendations that the reprioritised funds be recommendations that the reprioritised funds be used recommendations that the reprioritised funds be used for reprioritised funds be used for salary reprioritised funds be used for salary increases reprioritised funds be used for salary increases for reprioritised funds be used for salary increases for nurses? reprioritised funds be used for salary increases for nurses? I reprioritised funds be used for salary increases for nurses? I would salary increases for nurses? I would have salary increases for nurses? I would have to salary increases for nurses? I would have to check salary increases for nurses? 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Will he heed the petition of Terry Will he heed the petition of Terry Maize Will he heed the petition of Terry Maize supported Will he heed the petition of Terry Maize supported by Will he heed the petition of Terry Maize supported by 36,000 Will he heed the petition of Terry Maize supported by 36,000 other Will he heed the petition of Terry Maize supported by 36,000 other New Maize supported by 36,000 other New Zealanders Maize supported by 36,000 other New Zealanders online Maize supported by 36,000 other New Zealanders online for Maize supported by 36,000 other New Zealanders online for the Maize supported by 36,000 other New Zealanders online for the funding Maize supported by 36,000 other New Zealanders online for the funding of Zealanders online for the funding of Libranz, Zealanders online for the funding of Libranz, and Zealanders online for the funding of Libranz, and Edlika Zealanders online for the funding of Libranz, and Edlika both Zealanders online for the funding of Libranz, and Edlika both effective Libranz, and Edlika both effective in Libranz, and Edlika both effective in extending Libranz, and Edlika both effective in extending the Libranz, and Edlika both effective in extending the lives Libranz, and Edlika both effective in extending the lives of Libranz, and Edlika both effective in extending the lives of women Libranz, and Edlika both effective in extending the lives of women with in extending the lives of women with advanced in extending the lives of women with advanced breast in extending the lives of women with advanced breast cancer? in extending the lives of women with advanced breast cancer? My advanced breast cancer? My understanding advanced breast cancer? My understanding is advanced breast cancer? My understanding is that advanced breast cancer? My understanding is that PHARMAC advanced breast cancer? My understanding is that PHARMAC do understanding is that PHARMAC do have understanding is that PHARMAC do understanding understanding is that PHARMAC do have funding under understanding is that PHARMAC do have funding under way understanding is that PHARMAC do have funding under way to understanding is that PHARMAC do have funding under way to look understanding is that PHARMAC do have funding under way to look at have funding under way to look at the have funding under way to look at the relevant have funding under way to look at the relevant drugs have funding under way to look at the relevant drugs to have funding under way to look at the relevant drugs to make have funding under way to look at the relevant drugs to make sure have funding under way to look at the relevant drugs to make sure - the relevant drugs to make sure - they're the relevant drugs to make sure - they're in the relevant drugs to make sure - they're in a the relevant drugs to make sure - they're in a process the relevant drugs to make sure - they're in a process -- the relevant drugs to make sure - they're in a process -- they're the relevant drugs to make sure - they're in a process -- they're in the relevant drugs to make sure - they're in a process -- they're in a they're in a process -- they're in a process they're in a process -- they're in a process now they're in a process -- they're in a process now for they're in a process -- they're in a process now for funding. they're in a process -- they're in a process now for funding. Question process now for funding. Question Number process now for funding. Question Number 10. process now for funding. Question Number 10. Point process now for funding. Question Number 10. Point of process now for funding. Question Number 10. Point of order. process now for funding. Question Number 10. Point of order. A process now for funding. Question Number 10. Point of order. A point Number 10. Point of order. A point of Number 10. Point of order. A point of order. Number 10. Point of order. A point of order. This Number 10. Point of order. A point of order. This question Number 10. Point of order. A point of order. This question was Number 10. Point of order. A point of order. This question was put Number 10. Point of order. A point of order. This question was put down of order. This question was put down to of order. This question was put down to the of order. This question was put down to the PM of order. This question was put down to the PM who of order. This question was put down to the PM who transferred of order. This question was put down to the PM who transferred it of order. This question was put down to the PM who transferred it to of order. This question was put down to the PM who transferred it to the to the PM who transferred it to the Minister to the PM who transferred it to the Minister of to the PM who transferred it to the Minister of Energy to the PM who transferred it to the Minister of Energy and to the PM who transferred it to the Minister of Energy and Resources to the PM who transferred it to the Minister of Energy and Resources who Minister of Energy and Resources who appears Minister of Energy and Resources who appears to Minister of Energy and Resources who appears to be Minister of Energy and Resources who appears to be unavailable, Minister of Energy and Resources who appears to be unavailable, I'd Minister of Energy and Resources who appears to be unavailable, I'd like appears to be unavailable, I'd like to appears to be unavailable, I'd like to seek appears to be unavailable, I'd like to seek leave appears to be unavailable, I'd like to seek leave to appears to be unavailable, I'd like to seek leave to ask appears to be unavailable, I'd like to seek leave to ask it appears to be unavailable, I'd like to seek leave to ask it of appears to be unavailable, I'd like to seek leave to ask it of the appears to be unavailable, I'd like to seek leave to ask it of the PM. to seek leave to ask it of the PM. Is to seek leave to ask it of the PM. Is the to seek leave to ask it of the PM. Is the member to seek leave to ask it of the PM. Is the member seeking to seek leave to ask it of the PM. Is the member seeking to to seek leave to ask it of the PM. Is the member seeking to withdraw Is the member seeking to withdraw the Is the member seeking to withdraw the question. Is the member seeking to withdraw the question. No, Is the member seeking to withdraw the question. No, I'm Is the member seeking to withdraw the question. No, I'm seeking Is the member seeking to withdraw the question. No, I'm seeking leave the question. No, I'm seeking leave to the question. No, I'm seeking leave to ask the question. No, I'm seeking leave to ask it the question. No, I'm seeking leave to ask it of the question. No, I'm seeking leave to ask it of the the question. No, I'm seeking leave to ask it of the PM the question. No, I'm seeking leave to ask it of the PM in the question. No, I'm seeking leave to ask it of the PM in light the question. No, I'm seeking leave to ask it of the PM in light of the question. No, I'm seeking leave to ask it of the PM in light of the to ask it of the PM in light of the Minister to ask it of the PM in light of the Minister of to ask it of the PM in light of the Minister of Energy to ask it of the PM in light of the Minister of Energy and to ask it of the PM in light of the Minister of Energy and Resources Minister of Energy and Resources absence. Minister of Energy and Resources absence. Previous Minister of Energy and Resources absence. Previous speakers Minister of Energy and Resources absence. Previous speakers have Minister of Energy and Resources absence. Previous speakers have not absence. Previous speakers have not allowed absence. Previous speakers have not allowed that absence. Previous speakers have not allowed that leave absence. Previous speakers have not allowed that leave to absence. Previous speakers have not allowed that leave to be absence. Previous speakers have not allowed that leave to be sought. allowed that leave to be sought. Well, allowed that leave to be sought. Well, thank allowed that leave to be sought. Well, thank you, allowed that leave to be sought. Well, thank you, Mr allowed that leave to be sought. Well, thank you, Mr Speaker. Well, Well, thank Well, thank you, Well, thank you, Mr Well, thank you, Mr Speaker. 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An An behalf An behalf of An behalf of the An behalf of the Minister An behalf of the Minister of An behalf of the Minister of Energy An behalf of the Minister of Energy and An behalf of the Minister of Energy and Resources, An behalf of the Minister of Energy and Resources, it An behalf of the Minister of Energy and Resources, it is An behalf of the Minister of Energy and Resources, it is not An behalf of the Minister of Energy and Resources, it is not yet An behalf of the Minister of Energy and Resources, it is not yet clear and Resources, it is not yet clear whether and Resources, it is not yet clear whether Genesis and Resources, it is not yet clear whether Genesis Energy and Resources, it is not yet clear whether Genesis Energy will and Resources, it is not yet clear whether Genesis Energy will import whether Genesis Energy will import Nicole. whether Genesis Energy will import Nicole. It whether Genesis Energy will import Nicole. It is whether Genesis Energy will import Nicole. It is acting whether Genesis Energy will import Nicole. It is acting responsibly whether Genesis Energy will import Nicole. It is acting responsibly by Nicole. It is acting responsibly by planning Nicole. It is acting responsibly by planning for Nicole. It is acting responsibly by planning for that Nicole. It is acting responsibly by planning for that contingency, planning for that contingency, should planning for that contingency, should it planning for that contingency, should it be planning for that contingency, should it be necessary. planning for that contingency, should it be necessary. This planning for that contingency, should it be necessary. This is planning for that contingency, should it be necessary. This is not should it be necessary. This is not caused should it be necessary. This is not caused by should it be necessary. This is not caused by a should it be necessary. This is not caused by a shortage should it be necessary. This is not caused by a shortage of should it be necessary. This is not caused by a shortage of gas caused by a shortage of gas reserves. caused by a shortage of gas reserves. The caused by a shortage of gas reserves. The main caused by a shortage of gas reserves. The main driver caused by a shortage of gas reserves. The main driver is reserves. The main driver is pipeline reserves. The main driver is pipeline faults reserves. The main driver is pipeline faults and reserves. The main driver is pipeline faults and planned pipeline faults and planned maintenance. pipeline faults and planned maintenance. We pipeline faults and planned maintenance. We do pipeline faults and planned maintenance. We do not pipeline faults and planned maintenance. We do not expect pipeline faults and planned maintenance. We do not expect this maintenance. We do not expect this to maintenance. We do not expect this to have maintenance. We do not expect this to have any maintenance. We do not expect this to have any significant maintenance. We do not expect this to have any significant long-term to have any significant long-term impact to have any significant long-term impact on to have any significant long-term impact on carbon to have any significant long-term impact on carbon emissions. to have any significant long-term impact on carbon emissions. Of impact on carbon emissions. Of course impact on carbon emissions. Of course the impact on carbon emissions. Of course the biggest impact on carbon emissions. Of course the biggest long-term impact on carbon emissions. Of course the biggest long-term answer course the biggest long-term answer to course the biggest long-term answer to carbon course the biggest long-term answer to carbon emissions course the biggest long-term answer to carbon emissions is course the biggest long-term answer to carbon emissions is more to carbon emissions is more to carbon emissions is more to carbon emissions is more renewables. Supplementary. to carbon emissions is more renewables. Supplementary. Is to carbon emissions is more renewables. Supplementary. Is the renewables. Supplementary. Is the minister renewables. Supplementary. Is the minister saying renewables. Supplementary. Is the minister saying that renewables. Supplementary. Is the minister saying that the renewables. Supplementary. Is the minister saying that the Government minister saying that the Government is minister saying that the Government is in minister saying that the Government is in different minister saying that the Government is in different from minister saying that the Government is in different from an minister saying that the Government is in different from an emissions is in different from an emissions is in different from an emissions is in different from an emissions perspective, as is in different from an emissions perspective, as to is in different from an emissions perspective, as to whether perspective, as to whether electricity perspective, as to whether electricity is perspective, as to whether electricity is generated perspective, as to whether electricity is generated with perspective, as to whether electricity is generated with coal electricity is generated with coal electricity electricity is generated with coal or gas? No. electricity is generated with coal or gas? No. Then electricity is generated with coal or gas? No. Then can electricity is generated with coal or gas? No. Then can the electricity is generated with coal or gas? No. Then can the minister or gas? No. Then can the minister think or gas? No. Then can the minister think of or gas? No. Then can the minister think of any or gas? No. Then can the minister think of any other or gas? No. Then can the minister think of any other policies or gas? No. Then can the minister think of any other policies his think of any other policies his Government think of any other policies his Government has think of any other policies his Government has that think of any other policies his Government has that might think of any other policies his Government has that might lead think of any other policies his Government has that might lead to think of any other policies his Government has that might lead to a Government has that might lead to a shortage Government has that might lead to a shortage of Government has that might lead to a shortage of gas Government has that might lead to a shortage of gas in Government has that might lead to a shortage of gas in the Government has that might lead to a shortage of gas in the future Government has that might lead to a shortage of gas in the future and, shortage of gas in the future and, perhaps shortage of gas in the future and, perhaps a shortage of gas in the future and, perhaps a little shortage of gas in the future and, perhaps a little bit shortage of gas in the future and, perhaps a little bit more shortage of gas in the future and, perhaps a little bit more burning shortage of gas in the future and, perhaps a little bit more burning of perhaps a little bit more burning of coal perhaps a little bit more burning of coal to perhaps a little bit more burning of coal to generate perhaps a little bit more burning of coal to generate electricity? perhaps a little bit more burning of coal to generate electricity? 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