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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: My question is to the Prime Minister: Does My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all her Minister: Does she stand by all her Government's Minister: Does she stand by all her Government's statements Minister: Does she stand by all her Government's statements and Minister: Does she stand by all her Government's statements and actions? The The Rt The Rt Hon The Rt Hon Winston The Rt Hon Winston Peters. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the PM, The Rt Hon Winston Peters. 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Does the PM's comment to quote "read between the comment to quote "read between the lines" comment to quote "read between the lines" on comment to quote "read between the lines" on Sroubek comment to quote "read between the lines" on Sroubek really comment to quote "read between the lines" on Sroubek really mean comment to quote "read between the lines" on Sroubek really mean that lines" on Sroubek really mean that under lines" on Sroubek really mean that under her lines" on Sroubek really mean that under her government lines" on Sroubek really mean that under her government New lines" on Sroubek really mean that under her government New Zealand's under her government New Zealand's gone under her government New Zealand's gone entirely under her government New Zealand's gone entirely soft under her government New Zealand's gone entirely soft on under her government New Zealand's gone entirely soft on international gone entirely soft on international criminals? criminals? That's criminals? That's an criminals? That's an amazing, criminals? That's an amazing, though criminals? That's an amazing, though typical, That's an amazing, though typical, allegation. That's an amazing, though typical, allegation. The That's an amazing, though typical, allegation. The reality That's an amazing, though typical, allegation. The reality is That's an amazing, though typical, allegation. The reality is this That's an amazing, though typical, allegation. The reality is this is That's an amazing, though typical, allegation. The reality is this is a allegation. The reality is this is a government allegation. The reality is this is a government to allegation. The reality is this is a government to ensure allegation. The reality is this is a government to ensure that allegation. The reality is this is a government to ensure that our government to ensure that our streets government to ensure that our streets are government to ensure that our streets are safe government to ensure that our streets are safe and government to ensure that our streets are safe and our government to ensure that our streets are safe and our country, government to ensure that our streets are safe and our country, is streets are safe and our country, is getting streets are safe and our country, is getting 1800 streets are safe and our country, is getting 1800 more streets are safe and our country, is getting 1800 more front-line streets are safe and our country, is getting 1800 more front-line police getting 1800 more front-line police and getting 1800 more front-line police and 400 getting 1800 more front-line police and 400 more getting 1800 more front-line police and 400 more in getting 1800 more front-line police and 400 more in the getting 1800 more front-line police and 400 more in the back-up getting 1800 more front-line police and 400 more in the back-up of getting 1800 more front-line police and 400 more in the back-up of the and 400 more in the back-up of the office and 400 more in the back-up of the office a and 400 more in the back-up of the office a record and 400 more in the back-up of the office a record in and 400 more in the back-up of the office a record in this and 400 more in the back-up of the office a record in this country and 400 more in the back-up of the office a record in this country and office a record in this country and as office a record in this country and as for office a record in this country and as for the office a record in this country and as for the allegation office a record in this country and as for the allegation of office a record in this country and as for the allegation of being office a record in this country and as for the allegation of being soft as for the allegation of being soft on as for the allegation of being soft on crime, as for the allegation of being soft on crime, if as for the allegation of being soft on crime, if you've as for the allegation of being soft on crime, if you've got as for the allegation of being soft on crime, if you've got no on crime, if you've got no front-line on crime, if you've got no front-line police, on crime, if you've got no front-line police, then on crime, if you've got no front-line police, then that's on crime, if you've got no front-line police, then that's what front-line police, then that's what happened front-line police, then that's what happened under front-line police, then that's what happened under the front-line police, then that's what happened under the previous happened under the previous administration, happened under the previous administration, not happened under the previous administration, not ours. administration, not ours. Question administration, not ours. Question No. administration, not ours. Question No. 2, administration, not ours. Question No. 2, Dr administration, not ours. Question No. 2, Dr Duncan administration, not ours. Question No. 2, Dr Duncan Webb. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: My question is to the Minister of Finance: What My question is to the Minister of Finance: What progress, My question is to the Minister of Finance: What progress, if My question is to the Minister of Finance: What progress, if any, My question is to the Minister of Finance: What progress, if any, is Finance: What progress, if any, is the Finance: What progress, if any, is the Government Finance: What progress, if any, is the Government making Finance: What progress, if any, is the Government making on the Government making on implementing the Government making on implementing its the Government making on implementing its fiscal the Government making on implementing its fiscal strategy? The The Hon The Hon Grant The Hon Grant Robertson. The Hon Grant Robertson. The The Hon Grant Robertson. The Government The Hon Grant Robertson. The Government is The Hon Grant Robertson. The Government is making The Hon Grant Robertson. The Government is making excellent Government is making excellent progress Government is making excellent progress by Government is making excellent progress by us Government is making excellent progress by us delivering Government is making excellent progress by us delivering on Government is making excellent progress by us delivering on our progress by us delivering on our responsibility progress by us delivering on our responsibility rules progress by us delivering on our responsibility rules in progress by us delivering on our responsibility rules in the progress by us delivering on our responsibility rules in the first responsibility rules in the first budget responsibility rules in the first budget and responsibility rules in the first budget and across responsibility rules in the first budget and across the responsibility rules in the first budget and across the forecast budget and across the forecast period. budget and across the forecast period. We're budget and across the forecast period. We're taking budget and across the forecast period. We're taking a budget and across the forecast period. We're taking a prudent period. We're taking a prudent approach period. We're taking a prudent approach to period. We're taking a prudent approach to manage period. We're taking a prudent approach to manage debt period. We're taking a prudent approach to manage debt to period. We're taking a prudent approach to manage debt to ensure approach to manage debt to ensure New approach to manage debt to ensure New Zealand approach to manage debt to ensure New Zealand can approach to manage debt to ensure New Zealand can respond approach to manage debt to ensure New Zealand can respond to approach to manage debt to ensure New Zealand can respond to potential New Zealand can respond to potential shocks New Zealand can respond to potential shocks and New Zealand can respond to potential shocks and explaining New Zealand can respond to potential shocks and explaining expenditure shocks and explaining expenditure around shocks and explaining expenditure around the shocks and explaining expenditure around the historical shocks and explaining expenditure around the historical average shocks and explaining expenditure around the historical average as around the historical average as percentage around the historical average as percentage of around the historical average as percentage of GDP around the historical average as percentage of GDP and around the historical average as percentage of GDP and delivering percentage of GDP and delivering services percentage of GDP and delivering services that percentage of GDP and delivering services that are percentage of GDP and delivering services that are truly percentage of GDP and delivering services that are truly sustainable services that are truly sustainable by services that are truly sustainable by continuing services that are truly sustainable by continuing to services that are truly sustainable by continuing to make services that are truly sustainable by continuing to make necessary by continuing to make necessary investments by continuing to make necessary investments in by continuing to make necessary investments in health, by continuing to make necessary investments in health, housing, investments in health, housing, education investments in health, housing, education and investments in health, housing, education and infrastructure. investments in health, housing, education and infrastructure. This education and infrastructure. This is education and infrastructure. This is what education and infrastructure. This is what responsible education and infrastructure. This is what responsible fiscal is what responsible fiscal management is what responsible fiscal management looks is what responsible fiscal management looks like. is what responsible fiscal management looks like. Why is what responsible fiscal management looks like. Why is is what responsible fiscal management looks like. Why is it management looks like. Why is it important management looks like. Why is it important to management looks like. Why is it important to maintain management looks like. Why is it important to maintain sustainable important to maintain sustainable operating important to maintain sustainable operating surpluses? important to maintain sustainable operating surpluses? Mr important to maintain sustainable operating surpluses? Mr Speaker important to maintain sustainable operating surpluses? Mr Speaker t operating surpluses? Mr Speaker t operating surpluses? Mr Speaker t operating surpluses? Mr Speaker t operating surpluses operating surpluses? Mr Speaker t operating surpluses that operating surpluses? Mr Speaker t operating surpluses that we operating surpluses? Mr Speaker t operating surpluses that we have operating surpluses that we have delivered operating surpluses that we have delivered and operating surpluses that we have delivered and will operating surpluses that we have delivered and will continue operating surpluses that we have delivered and will continue to, delivered and will continue to, allows delivered and will continue to, allows us delivered and will continue to, allows us to delivered and will continue to, allows us to pay delivered and will continue to, allows us to pay down delivered and will continue to, allows us to pay down debt delivered and will continue to, allows us to pay down debt and delivered and will continue to, allows us to pay down debt and make allows us to pay down debt and make much-needed allows us to pay down debt and make much-needed capital allows us to pay down debt and make much-needed capital investments allows us to pay down debt and make much-needed capital investments in much-needed capital investments in hospitals, much-needed capital investments in hospitals, schools much-needed capital investments in hospitals, schools and much-needed capital investments in hospitals, schools and transport hospitals, schools and transport infrastructure. hospitals, schools and transport infrastructure. As hospitals, schools and transport infrastructure. As noted hospitals, schools and transport infrastructure. As noted at hospitals, schools and transport infrastructure. As noted at Budget infrastructure. As noted at Budget 2018, infrastructure. As noted at Budget 2018, across infrastructure. As noted at Budget 2018, across the infrastructure. As noted at Budget 2018, across the forecast infrastructure. As noted at Budget 2018, across the forecast period, infrastructure. As noted at Budget 2018, across the forecast period, we 2018, across the forecast period, we will 2018, across the forecast period, we will be 2018, across the forecast period, we will be invested 2018, across the forecast period, we will be invested $25 2018, across the forecast period, we will be invested $25 billion 2018, across the forecast period, we will be invested $25 billion more will be invested $25 billion more overall will be invested $25 billion more overall than will be invested $25 billion more overall than the will be invested $25 billion more overall than the previous will be invested $25 billion more overall than the previous government overall than the previous government had overall than the previous government had planned. overall than the previous government had planned. The overall than the previous government had planned. The Treasury's overall than the previous government had planned. The Treasury's latest had planned. The Treasury's latest forecast had planned. The Treasury's latest forecast shows had planned. The Treasury's latest forecast shows rising had planned. The Treasury's latest forecast shows rising surpluses had planned. The Treasury's latest forecast shows rising surpluses over forecast shows rising surpluses over the forecast shows rising surpluses over the forecast forecast shows rising surpluses over the forecast period forecast shows rising surpluses over the forecast period while forecast shows rising surpluses over the forecast period while we the forecast period while we continue the forecast period while we continue to the forecast period while we continue to make the forecast period while we continue to make significant continue to make significant investments continue to make significant investments in continue to make significant investments in public continue to make significant investments in public services. continue to make significant investments in public services. This investments in public services. This shows investments in public services. This shows we investments in public services. This shows we are investments in public services. This shows we are living investments in public services. This shows we are living within investments in public services. This shows we are living within our shows we are living within our means, shows we are living within our means, while shows we are living within our means, while also shows we are living within our means, while also allowing shows we are living within our means, while also allowing ourselves means, while also allowing ourselves the means, while also allowing ourselves the ability means, while also allowing ourselves the ability to means, while also allowing ourselves the ability to respond means, while also allowing ourselves the ability to respond to means, while also allowing ourselves the ability to respond to any the ability to respond to any unexpected the ability to respond to any unexpected events the ability to respond to any unexpected events that the ability to respond to any unexpected events that may the ability to respond to any unexpected events that may occur. unexpected events that may occur. What unexpected events that may occur. What alternative unexpected events that may occur. What alternative proposals unexpected events that may occur. What alternative proposals has unexpected events that may occur. What alternative proposals has he What alternative proposals has he seen What alternative proposals has he seen for What alternative proposals has he seen for managing What alternative proposals has he seen for managing the What alternative proposals has he seen for managing the Government's seen for managing the Government's books? seen for managing the Government's books? Mr seen for managing the Government's books? Mr Speaker, seen for managing the Government's books? Mr Speaker, I seen for managing the Government's books? Mr Speaker, I have seen for managing the Government's books? Mr Speaker, I have seen books? Mr Speaker, I have seen analysis books? Mr Speaker, I have seen analysis from books? Mr Speaker, I have seen analysis from a books? Mr Speaker, I have seen analysis from a group books? Mr Speaker, I have seen analysis from a group of analysis from a group of commentators analysis from a group of commentators who analysis from a group of commentators who suggested analysis from a group of commentators who suggested that analysis from a group of commentators who suggested that the commentators who suggested that the Government commentators who suggested that the Government should commentators who suggested that the Government should cut commentators who suggested that the Government should cut significant Government should cut significant amounts Government should cut significant amounts of Government should cut significant amounts of revenue, Government should cut significant amounts of revenue, for Government should cut significant amounts of revenue, for example amounts of revenue, for example through amounts of revenue, for example through tax amounts of revenue, for example through tax cuts amounts of revenue, for example through tax cuts which amounts of revenue, for example through tax cuts which would through tax cuts which would disproportionately through tax cuts which would disproportionately benefit through tax cuts which would disproportionately benefit the disproportionately benefit the wealthiest, disproportionately benefit the wealthiest, while disproportionately benefit the wealthiest, while at disproportionately benefit the wealthiest, while at the disproportionately benefit the wealthiest, while at the same disproportionately benefit the wealthiest, while at the same time wealthiest, while at the same time suggesting wealthiest, while at the same time suggesting we wealthiest, while at the same time suggesting we should wealthiest, while at the same time suggesting we should spend suggesting we should spend significantly suggesting we should spend significantly more. suggesting we should spend significantly more. This suggesting we should spend significantly more. This confused significantly more. This confused combination significantly more. This confused combination would significantly more. This confused combination would of significantly more. This confused combination would of course significantly more. This confused combination would of course lead significantly more. This confused combination would of course lead to combination would of course lead to much combination would of course lead to much higher combination would of course lead to much higher debt combination would of course lead to much higher debt or, combination would of course lead to much higher debt or, if combination would of course lead to much higher debt or, if you combination would of course lead to much higher debt or, if you will, combination would of course lead to much higher debt or, if you will, a much higher debt or, if you will, a fiscal much higher debt or, if you will, a fiscal hole. much higher debt or, if you will, a fiscal hole. Mr much higher debt or, if you will, a fiscal hole. Mr Speaker, much higher debt or, if you will, a fiscal hole. Mr Speaker, on much higher debt or, if you will, a fiscal hole. Mr Speaker, on this fiscal hole. Mr Speaker, on this side fiscal hole. Mr Speaker, on this side of fiscal hole. Mr Speaker, on this side of the fiscal hole. Mr Speaker, on this side of the House, fiscal hole. Mr Speaker, on this side of the House, we're fiscal hole. Mr Speaker, on this side of the House, we're clear fiscal hole. Mr Speaker, on this side of the House, we're clear about side of the House, we're clear about our side of the House, we're clear about our fiscal side of the House, we're clear about our fiscal stance, side of the House, we're clear about our fiscal stance, unfortunately side of the House, we're clear about our fiscal stance, unfortunately the our fiscal stance, unfortunately the same our fiscal stance, unfortunately the same can't our fiscal stance, unfortunately the same can't be our fiscal stance, unfortunately the same can't be said our fiscal stance, unfortunately the same can't be said for our fiscal stance, unfortunately the same can't be said for the our fiscal stance, unfortunately the same can't be said for the National same can't be said for the National Party. Party. Question Party. Question No. Party. Question No. 3, Party. Question No. 3, the Party. Question No. 3, the Hon Party. Question No. 3, the Hon Simon Question No. 3, the Hon Simon Bridges. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: My question is to the Prime Minister: Does My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all her Minister: Does she stand by all her Government's Minister: Does she stand by all her Government's statements Minister: Does she stand by all her Government's statements and Minister: Does she stand by all her Government's statements and actions? The The Rt The Rt Hon The Rt Hon Winston The Rt Hon Winston Peters. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. For The Rt Hon Winston Peters. For the The Rt Hon Winston Peters. For the second The Rt Hon Winston Peters. For the second time, The Rt Hon Winston Peters. For the second time, on The Rt Hon Winston Peters. For the second time, on behalf The Rt Hon Winston Peters. For the second time, on behalf of The Rt Hon Winston Peters. For the second time, on behalf of the The Rt Hon Winston Peters. For the second time, on behalf of the PM, second time, on behalf of the PM, yes. second time, on behalf of the PM, yes. When second time, on behalf of the PM, yes. When exactly second time, on behalf of the PM, yes. When exactly did second time, on behalf of the PM, yes. When exactly did she second time, on behalf of the PM, yes. When exactly did she decide yes. When exactly did she decide there yes. When exactly did she decide there would yes. When exactly did she decide there would be yes. When exactly did she decide there would be no yes. When exactly did she decide there would be no more yes. When exactly did she decide there would be no more original yes. When exactly did she decide there would be no more original fuel there would be no more original fuel taxes there would be no more original fuel taxes while there would be no more original fuel taxes while she there would be no more original fuel taxes while she is there would be no more original fuel taxes while she is PM? taxes while she is PM? Firstly taxes while she is PM? Firstly t taxes while she is PM? Firstly t PM taxes while she is PM? Firstly t PM was taxes while she is PM? Firstly t PM was instrumental taxes while she is PM? 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Was the minister privvy to all opposition". Mr Speaker, yes. Was the minister privvy to all of Was the minister privvy to all of the Was the minister privvy to all of the information Was the minister privvy to all of the information before Was the minister privvy to all of the information before the Was the minister privvy to all of the information before the Parole the information before the Parole Board the information before the Parole Board before the information before the Parole Board before its the information before the Parole Board before its decision the information before the Parole Board before its decision not the information before the Parole Board before its decision not to Board before its decision not to grant Board before its decision not to grant Karel Board before its decision not to grant Karel Sroubek Board before its decision not to grant Karel Sroubek parole? Board before its decision not to grant Karel Sroubek parole? Mr grant Karel Sroubek parole? 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I believe it is important for ministers when taking these for ministers when taking these serious for ministers when taking these serious decisions for ministers when taking these serious decisions to for ministers when taking these serious decisions to weigh for ministers when taking these serious decisions to weigh up for ministers when taking these serious decisions to weigh up all for ministers when taking these serious decisions to weigh up all of serious decisions to weigh up all of the serious decisions to weigh up all of serious the evidence. Question the evidence. Question No. the evidence. Question No. 5, the evidence. Question No. 5, Priyanca Question No. 5, Priyanca Radharkrishnan. 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The The Hon The Hon Phil The Hon Phil Twyford. The Hon Phil Twyford. Mr The Hon Phil Twyford. Mr Speaker, The Hon Phil Twyford. Mr Speaker, on The Hon Phil Twyford. Mr Speaker, on Saturday The Hon Phil Twyford. Mr Speaker, on Saturday the The Hon Phil Twyford. Mr Speaker, on Saturday the first The Hon Phil Twyford. Mr Speaker, on Saturday the first 18 The Hon Phil Twyford. Mr Speaker, on Saturday the first 18 KiwiBuild Saturday the first 18 KiwiBuild families Saturday the first 18 KiwiBuild families were Saturday the first 18 KiwiBuild families were welcomed Saturday the first 18 KiwiBuild families were welcomed to Saturday the first 18 KiwiBuild families were welcomed to their Saturday the first 18 KiwiBuild families were welcomed to their new families were welcomed to their new homes families were welcomed to their new homes by families were welcomed to their new homes by the families were welcomed to their new homes by the PM. families were welcomed to their new homes by the PM. KiwiBuild families were welcomed to their new homes by the PM. KiwiBuild is families were welcomed to their new homes by the PM. KiwiBuild is giving homes by the PM. KiwiBuild is giving thousands homes by the PM. KiwiBuild is giving thousands of homes by the PM. KiwiBuild is giving thousands of young homes by the PM. KiwiBuild is giving thousands of young families, homes by the PM. 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There's still a lot of buy their own, affordable starter home. There's still a lot of work buy their own, affordable starter home. There's still a lot of work to home. There's still a lot of work to do home. There's still a lot of work to do to home. There's still a lot of work to do to build home. There's still a lot of work to do to build our home. There's still a lot of work to do to build our way home. There's still a lot of work to do to build our way out home. There's still a lot of work to do to build our way out of home. There's still a lot of work to do to build our way out of the do to build our way out of the national do to build our way out of the national housing do to build our way out of the national housing crisis do to build our way out of the national housing crisis but do to build our way out of the national housing crisis but Saturday national housing crisis but Saturday showed national housing crisis but Saturday showed we national housing crisis but Saturday showed we are national housing crisis but Saturday showed we are making national housing crisis but Saturday showed we are making progress. showed we are making progress. Supplementary. showed we are making progress. Supplementary. What showed we are making progress. Supplementary. What reports showed we are making progress. Supplementary. What reports has showed we are making progress. Supplementary. What reports has he Supplementary. What reports has he seen Supplementary. What reports has he seen on Supplementary. 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I'm housing is just so expensive. I'm proud housing is just so expensive. I'm proud that housing is just so expensive. I'm proud that this housing is just so expensive. I'm proud that this government housing is just so expensive. I'm proud that this government is housing is just so expensive. I'm proud that this government is giving proud that this government is giving these proud that this government is giving these families proud that this government is giving these families and proud that this government is giving these families and thousands proud that this government is giving these families and thousands more these families and thousands more like these families and thousands more like them these families and thousands more like them hope. like them hope. Why like them hope. Why is like them hope. Why is the like them hope. Why is the Government like them hope. Why is the Government building Why is the Government building KiwiBuild Why is the Government building KiwiBuild homes? Why is the Government building KiwiBuild homes? Because Why is the Government building KiwiBuild homes? Because a KiwiBuild homes? Because a generation KiwiBuild homes? Because a generation of KiwiBuild homes? Because a generation of young KiwiBuild homes? Because a generation of young New KiwiBuild homes? Because a generation of young New Zealanders generation of young New Zealanders with generation of young New Zealanders with good generation of young New Zealanders with good jobs generation of young New Zealanders with good jobs are generation of young New Zealanders with good jobs are priced generation of young New Zealanders with good jobs are priced out generation of young New Zealanders with good jobs are priced out of with good jobs are priced out of homeownership with good jobs are priced out of homeownership the with good jobs are priced out of homeownership the families with good jobs are priced out of homeownership the families in homeownership the families in McLennan homeownership the families in McLennan represent homeownership the families in McLennan represent many homeownership the families in McLennan represent many areas homeownership the families in McLennan represent many areas of homeownership the families in McLennan represent many areas of the McLennan represent many areas of the workforce McLennan represent many areas of the workforce - McLennan represent many areas of the workforce - nurses, McLennan represent many areas of the workforce - nurses, concrete workforce - nurses, concrete workers, workforce - nurses, concrete workers, administration workforce - nurses, concrete workers, administration workers, workers, administration workers, engineers, workers, administration workers, engineers, designers workers, administration workers, engineers, designers and engineers, designers and stay-at-home engineers, designers and stay-at-home mums. engineers, designers and stay-at-home mums. KiwiBuild engineers, designers and stay-at-home mums. KiwiBuild aims engineers, designers and stay-at-home mums. KiwiBuild aims to stay-at-home mums. KiwiBuild aims to increase stay-at-home mums. KiwiBuild aims to increase homeownership, stay-at-home mums. KiwiBuild aims to increase homeownership, to stay-at-home mums. KiwiBuild aims to increase homeownership, to increase increase homeownership, to increase the increase homeownership, to increase the number increase homeownership, to increase the number of increase homeownership, to increase the number of homes increase homeownership, to increase the number of homes built increase homeownership, to increase the number of homes built at increase homeownership, to increase the number of homes built at an the number of homes built at an affordable the number of homes built at an affordable price the number of homes built at an affordable price point the number of homes built at an affordable price point and the number of homes built at an affordable price point and use affordable price point and use government affordable price point and use government procurement affordable price point and use government procurement to affordable price point and use government procurement to drive affordable price point and use government procurement to drive down government procurement to drive down costs. government procurement to drive down costs. On government procurement to drive down costs. On 5% government procurement to drive down costs. On 5% of government procurement to drive down costs. On 5% of new government procurement to drive down costs. On 5% of new builds government procurement to drive down costs. On 5% of new builds are government procurement to drive down costs. On 5% of new builds are in costs. On 5% of new builds are in the costs. On 5% of new builds are in the affordable costs. On 5% of new builds are in the affordable lower costs. On 5% of new builds are in the affordable lower quartile, costs. 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Why has the Government set the Why has the Government set the eligibility Why has the Government set the eligibility criteria Why has the Government set the eligibility criteria that Why has the Government set the eligibility criteria that it Why has the Government set the eligibility criteria that it has Why has the Government set the eligibility criteria that it has for eligibility criteria that it has for KiwiBuild eligibility criteria that it has for KiwiBuild homes? eligibility criteria that it has for KiwiBuild homes? Well, eligibility criteria that it has for KiwiBuild homes? Well, KiwiBuild eligibility criteria that it has for KiwiBuild homes? Well, KiwiBuild is KiwiBuild homes? Well, KiwiBuild is about KiwiBuild homes? Well, KiwiBuild is about restoring KiwiBuild homes? Well, KiwiBuild is about restoring the KiwiBuild homes? Well, KiwiBuild is about restoring the dream KiwiBuild homes? Well, KiwiBuild is about restoring the dream of about restoring the dream of homeownership about restoring the dream of homeownership to about restoring the dream of homeownership to young about restoring the dream of homeownership to young families about restoring the dream of homeownership to young families and homeownership to young families and it's homeownership to young families and it's a homeownership to young families and it's a sign homeownership to young families and it's a sign of homeownership to young families and it's a sign of just homeownership to young families and it's a sign of just how homeownership to young families and it's a sign of just how bad homeownership to young families and it's a sign of just how bad the it's a sign of just how bad the national it's a sign of just how bad the national housing it's a sign of just how bad the national housing crisis it's a sign of just how bad the national housing crisis has it's a sign of just how bad the national housing crisis has got, national housing crisis has got, that national housing crisis has got, that for national housing crisis has got, that for young national housing crisis has got, that for young families national housing crisis has got, that for young families in national housing crisis has got, that for young families in places that for young families in places like that for young families in places like Auckland, that for young families in places like Auckland, couples that for young families in places like Auckland, couples with that for young families in places like Auckland, couples with good like Auckland, couples with good jobs, like Auckland, couples with good jobs, like like Auckland, couples with good jobs, like two like Auckland, couples with good jobs, like two teachers like Auckland, couples with good jobs, like two teachers with like Auckland, couples with good jobs, like two teachers with five jobs, like two teachers with five years' jobs, like two teachers with five years' experience, jobs, like two teachers with five years' experience, earning jobs, like two teachers with five years' experience, earning $160,000 years' experience, earning $160,000 a years' experience, earning $160,000 a year years' experience, earning $160,000 a year pretax, years' experience, earning $160,000 a year pretax, are years' experience, earning $160,000 a year pretax, are locked years' experience, earning $160,000 a year pretax, are locked out years' experience, earning $160,000 a year pretax, are locked out of a year pretax, are locked out of homeownership. a year pretax, are locked out of homeownership. 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No - by Members of Parliament? Order! No - other by Members of Parliament? Order! No - other than by Members of Parliament? Order! No - other than the by Members of Parliament? Order! No - other than the use by Members of Parliament? Order! No - other than the use of Order! No - other than the use of the Order! No - other than the use of the word Order! No - other than the use of the word "KiwiBuild", Order! No - other than the use of the word "KiwiBuild", there's Order! No - other than the use of the word "KiwiBuild", there's no the word "KiwiBuild", there's no relationship the word "KiwiBuild", there's no relationship with the word "KiwiBuild", there's no relationship with this the word "KiwiBuild", there's no relationship with this minister the word "KiwiBuild", there's no relationship with this minister and relationship with this minister and if relationship with this minister and if there relationship with this minister and if there are relationship with this minister and if there are serious relationship with this minister and if there are serious allegations relationship with this minister and if there are serious allegations to if there are serious allegations to be if there are serious allegations to be made if there are serious allegations to be made like if there are serious allegations to be made like that, if there are serious allegations to be made like that, they if there are serious allegations to be made like that, they shouldn't if there are serious allegations to be made like that, they shouldn't be be made like that, they shouldn't be made be made like that, they shouldn't be made as be made like that, they shouldn't be made as a be made like that, they shouldn't be made as a casual be made like that, they shouldn't be made as a casual question. made as a casual question. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Housing My question is to the Minister of Housing and My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: Does Housing and Urban Development: Does he Housing and Urban Development: Does he stand Housing and Urban Development: Does he stand by Housing and Urban Development: Does he stand by the Housing and Urban Development: Does he stand by the following Housing and Urban Development: Does he stand by the following statements he stand by the following statements in he stand by the following statements in regards he stand by the following statements in regards to he stand by the following statements in regards to KiwiBuild, he stand by the following statements in regards to KiwiBuild, "Our in regards to KiwiBuild, "Our objective in regards to KiwiBuild, "Our objective is in regards to KiwiBuild, "Our objective is to in regards to KiwiBuild, "Our objective is to deliver in regards to KiwiBuild, "Our objective is to deliver quality, objective is to deliver quality, well-located objective is to deliver quality, well-located homes objective is to deliver quality, well-located homes that objective is to deliver quality, well-located homes that are well-located homes that are inherently well-located homes that are inherently affordable", well-located homes that are inherently affordable", and well-located homes that are inherently affordable", and "it well-located homes that are inherently affordable", and "it is inherently affordable", and "it is inherently affordable", and "it is inherently affordable", and "it is not a inherently affordable", and "it is not a programme inherently affordable", and "it is not a programme aimed inherently affordable", and "it is not a programme aimed at inherently affordable", and "it is not a programme aimed at low-income not a programme aimed at low-income families, not a programme aimed at low-income families, because not a programme aimed at low-income families, because they not a programme aimed at low-income families, because they may not a programme aimed at low-income families, because they may not not a programme aimed at low-income families, because they may not be families, because they may not be able families, because they may not be able to families, because they may not be able to service families, because they may not be able to service a families, because they may not be able to service a KiwiBuild able to service a KiwiBuild mortgage"? The The Hon The Hon Phil The Hon Phil Twyford. The Hon Phil Twyford. Yes, The Hon Phil Twyford. Yes, KiwiBuild The Hon Phil Twyford. Yes, KiwiBuild has The Hon Phil Twyford. Yes, KiwiBuild has always The Hon Phil Twyford. Yes, KiwiBuild has always been... The Hon Phil Twyford. Yes, KiwiBuild has always been... Order! The Hon Phil Twyford. Yes, KiwiBuild has always been... Order! I The Hon Phil Twyford. Yes, KiwiBuild has always been... Order! I will has always been... Order! I will interrupt.ly has always been... Order! I will interrupt.ly ask has always been... Order! I will interrupt.ly ask Damien has always been... Order! I will interrupt.ly ask Damien O'Connor interrupt.ly ask Damien O'Connor to... interrupt.ly ask Damien O'Connor to... Thank interrupt.ly ask Damien O'Connor to... Thank you. interrupt.ly ask Damien O'Connor to... Thank you. Start interrupt.ly ask Damien O'Connor to... Thank you. Start again, to... Thank you. Start again, please. please. Question, please. Question, KiwiBuild please. Question, KiwiBuild has please. Question, KiwiBuild has always please. Question, KiwiBuild has always been Question, KiwiBuild has always been a Question, KiwiBuild has always been a homeownership Question, KiwiBuild has always been a homeownership programme. Question, KiwiBuild has always been a homeownership programme. We Question, KiwiBuild has always been a homeownership programme. We are a homeownership programme. We are building a homeownership programme. We are building quality, a homeownership programme. We are building quality, well-located a homeownership programme. We are building quality, well-located homes building quality, well-located homes that building quality, well-located homes that are building quality, well-located homes that are more building quality, well-located homes that are more affordable building quality, well-located homes that are more affordable by building quality, well-located homes that are more affordable by virtue that are more affordable by virtue of that are more affordable by virtue of good that are more affordable by virtue of good design that are more affordable by virtue of good design or that are more affordable by virtue of good design or efficient that are more affordable by virtue of good design or efficient land that are more affordable by virtue of good design or efficient land use of good design or efficient land use for of good design or efficient land use for first of good design or efficient land use for first home of good design or efficient land use for first home buyers of good design or efficient land use for first home buyers to of good design or efficient land use for first home buyers to buy of good design or efficient land use for first home buyers to buy their for first home buyers to buy their first for first home buyers to buy their first home. for first home buyers to buy their first home. Only for first home buyers to buy their first home. Only 5% for first home buyers to buy their first home. Only 5% of for first home buyers to buy their first home. Only 5% of new for first home buyers to buy their first home. Only 5% of new builds first home. Only 5% of new builds are first home. Only 5% of new builds are in first home. Only 5% of new builds are in the first home. Only 5% of new builds are in the lower first home. Only 5% of new builds are in the lower quartile, first home. Only 5% of new builds are in the lower quartile, which are in the lower quartile, which means are in the lower quartile, which means there are in the lower quartile, which means there are are in the lower quartile, which means there are very are in the lower quartile, which means there are very few are in the lower quartile, which means there are very few modest means there are very few modest starter means there are very few modest starter homes means there are very few modest starter homes for means there are very few modest starter homes for young means there are very few modest starter homes for young families. starter homes for young families. KiwiBuild starter homes for young families. KiwiBuild changes starter homes for young families. KiwiBuild changes this. starter homes for young families. KiwiBuild changes this. KiwiBuild KiwiBuild changes this. KiwiBuild homes KiwiBuild changes this. KiwiBuild homes are KiwiBuild changes this. KiwiBuild homes are not KiwiBuild changes this. KiwiBuild homes are not subsidised KiwiBuild changes this. KiwiBuild homes are not subsidised and KiwiBuild changes this. KiwiBuild homes are not subsidised and this homes are not subsidised and this means homes are not subsidised and this means that homes are not subsidised and this means that families homes are not subsidised and this means that families will homes are not subsidised and this means that families will need means that families will need sufficient means that families will need sufficient household means that families will need sufficient household income means that families will need sufficient household income to sufficient household income to sustain sufficient household income to sustain a sufficient household income to sustain a mortgage. sustain a mortgage. Thank sustain a mortgage. Thank you, sustain a mortgage. Thank you, Mr sustain a mortgage. Thank you, Mr Speaker. sustain a mortgage. Thank you, Mr Speaker. What sustain a mortgage. Thank you, Mr Speaker. What income Thank you, Mr Speaker. What income segment Thank you, Mr Speaker. What income segment of Thank you, Mr Speaker. What income segment of families Thank you, Mr Speaker. What income segment of families is Thank you, Mr Speaker. What income segment of families is KiwiBuild segment of families is KiwiBuild aimed segment of families is KiwiBuild aimed at? segment of families is KiwiBuild aimed at? KiwiBuild segment of families is KiwiBuild aimed at? KiwiBuild is segment of families is KiwiBuild aimed at? KiwiBuild is aimed segment of families is KiwiBuild aimed at? KiwiBuild is aimed at segment of families is KiwiBuild aimed at? KiwiBuild is aimed at the aimed at? KiwiBuild is aimed at the income aimed at? KiwiBuild is aimed at the income segment, aimed at? KiwiBuild is aimed at the income segment, the aimed at? KiwiBuild is aimed at the income segment, the squeezed aimed at? 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If you look at the income demographics, you look at the income demographics, the you look at the income demographics, the bands you look at the income demographics, the bands between you look at the income demographics, the bands between household you look at the income demographics, the bands between household income the bands between household income of the bands between household income of $80-180,000 the bands between household income of $80-180,000 have the bands between household income of $80-180,000 have experienced the bands between household income of $80-180,000 have experienced the of $80-180,000 have experienced the biggest of $80-180,000 have experienced the biggest drop of $80-180,000 have experienced the biggest drop in of $80-180,000 have experienced the biggest drop in homeownership of $80-180,000 have experienced the biggest drop in homeownership in of $80-180,000 have experienced the biggest drop in homeownership in the biggest drop in homeownership in the last biggest drop in homeownership in the last decade, biggest drop in homeownership in the last decade, more biggest drop in homeownership in the last decade, more than biggest drop in homeownership in the last decade, more than low biggest drop in homeownership in the last decade, more than low income last decade, more than low income families last decade, more than low income families and last decade, more than low income families and more last decade, more than low income families and more than last decade, more than low income families and more than high last decade, more than low income families and more than high income families and more than high income families. families and more than high income families. 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They even refused to acknowledge there was a housing acknowledge there was a housing crisis. acknowledge there was a housing crisis. We acknowledge there was a housing crisis. We are acknowledge there was a housing crisis. We are building acknowledge there was a housing crisis. We are building lower crisis. We are building lower quartile, crisis. We are building lower quartile, affordable crisis. We are building lower quartile, affordable homes crisis. 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When applicants come before the process of qualifying for the process of qualifying for KiwiBuild, the process of qualifying for KiwiBuild, are the process of qualifying for KiwiBuild, are all the process of qualifying for KiwiBuild, are all their the process of qualifying for KiwiBuild, are all their earnings KiwiBuild, are all their earnings and KiwiBuild, are all their earnings and income KiwiBuild, are all their earnings and income and KiwiBuild, are all their earnings and income and past KiwiBuild, are all their earnings and income and past looked KiwiBuild, are all their earnings and income and past looked at KiwiBuild, are all their earnings and income and past looked at in and income and past looked at in terms and income and past looked at in terms of and income and past looked at in terms of whether and income and past looked at in terms of whether or and income and past looked at in terms of whether or not and income and past looked at in terms of whether or not they and income and past looked at in terms of whether or not they are terms of whether or not they are properly terms of whether or not they are properly declaring terms of whether or not they are properly declaring their terms of whether or not they are properly declaring their level terms of whether or not they are properly declaring their level of properly declaring their level of wealth? wealth? 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Mr Speaker, we set an income cap for Mr Speaker, we set an income cap for KiwiBuild, Mr Speaker, we set an income cap for KiwiBuild, but Mr Speaker, we set an income cap for KiwiBuild, but did Mr Speaker, we set an income cap for KiwiBuild, but did not Mr Speaker, we set an income cap for KiwiBuild, but did not set Mr Speaker, we set an income cap for KiwiBuild, but did not set a Mr Speaker, we set an income cap for KiwiBuild, but did not set a policy KiwiBuild, but did not set a policy that KiwiBuild, but did not set a policy that said KiwiBuild, but did not set a policy that said if KiwiBuild, but did not set a policy that said if you've KiwiBuild, but did not set a policy that said if you've travelled KiwiBuild, but did not set a policy that said if you've travelled and that said if you've travelled and done that said if you've travelled and done your that said if you've travelled and done your OE, that said if you've travelled and done your OE, then that said if you've travelled and done your OE, then you that said if you've travelled and done your OE, then you should that said if you've travelled and done your OE, then you should be done your OE, then you should be permanently done your OE, then you should be permanently banned done your OE, then you should be permanently banned from done your OE, then you should be permanently banned from buying done your OE, then you should be permanently banned from buying a permanently banned from buying a KiwiBuild permanently banned from buying a KiwiBuild house. permanently banned from buying a KiwiBuild house. It permanently banned from buying a KiwiBuild house. It seems permanently banned from buying a KiwiBuild house. It seems that permanently banned from buying a KiwiBuild house. It seems that some KiwiBuild house. It seems that some members KiwiBuild house. It seems that some members of KiwiBuild house. It seems that some members of this KiwiBuild house. It seems that some members of this House KiwiBuild house. It seems that some members of this House were KiwiBuild house. 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Zealanders, who committed the crime of buying affordable homes. Order! of buying affordable homes. Order! The of buying affordable homes. Order! The minister of buying affordable homes. Order! The minister has of buying affordable homes. Order! The minister has no of buying affordable homes. Order! The minister has no responsibility The minister has no responsibility for The minister has no responsibility The for that. Thank for that. Thank you, for that. Thank you, Mr for that. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Supplementary. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Supplementary. What Thank you, Mr Speaker. Supplementary. What responses Thank you, Mr Speaker. Supplementary. What responses has Thank you, Mr Speaker. Supplementary. What responses has he Supplementary. What responses has he seen Supplementary. What responses has he seen to Supplementary. What responses has he seen to the Supplementary. What responses has he seen to the new Supplementary. What responses has he seen to the new KiwiBuild Supplementary. What responses has he seen to the new KiwiBuild families? seen to the new KiwiBuild families? We've seen to the new KiwiBuild families? We've seen seen to the new KiwiBuild families? We've seen some seen to the new KiwiBuild families? We've seen some fantastic seen to the new KiwiBuild families? We've seen some fantastic responses, We've seen some fantastic responses, Mr We've seen some fantastic responses, Mr Speaker. We've seen some fantastic responses, Mr Speaker. We've We've seen some fantastic responses, Mr Speaker. We've seen We've seen some fantastic responses, Mr Speaker. We've seen commentator Mr Speaker. We've seen commentator who Mr Speaker. We've seen commentator who have Mr Speaker. We've seen commentator who have declared Mr Speaker. We've seen commentator who have declared that Mr Speaker. We've seen commentator who have declared that KiwiBuild who have declared that KiwiBuild would who have declared that KiwiBuild would have who have declared that KiwiBuild would have the who have declared that KiwiBuild would have the effect who have declared that KiwiBuild would have the effect of who have declared that KiwiBuild would have the effect of stabilising would have the effect of stabilising the would have the effect of stabilising the housing would have the effect of stabilising the housing market would have the effect of stabilising the housing market and would have the effect of stabilising the housing market and making the housing market and making housing the housing market and making housing more the housing market and making housing more affordable the housing market and making housing more affordable for the housing market and making housing more affordable for first housing more affordable for first home housing more affordable for first home buyers housing more affordable for first home buyers across housing more affordable for first home buyers across the housing more affordable for first home buyers across the market. housing more affordable for first home buyers across the market. We've home buyers across the market. We've seen home buyers across the market. We've seen families home buyers across the market. We've seen families - home buyers across the market. We've seen families - 18 home buyers across the market. We've seen families - 18 - home buyers across the market. We've seen families - 18 - who home buyers across the market. 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Thanking Thanking you Thanking you -- Thanking you -- thank Thanking you -- thank you, Thanking you -- thank you, Mr Thanking you -- thank you, Mr Speaker. Thanking you -- thank you, Mr Speaker. How Thanking you -- thank you, Mr Speaker. How is Thanking you -- thank you, Mr Speaker. How is the Speaker. How is the Government Speaker. How is the Speaker. How is the Government assisting families Speaker. How is the Government assisting families who Speaker. How is the Government assisting families who cannot Speaker. How is the Government assisting families who cannot afford assisting families who cannot afford home assisting families who cannot afford home ownership assisting families who cannot afford home ownership currently? assisting families who cannot afford home ownership currently? There assisting families who cannot afford home ownership currently? There is home ownership currently? There is more home ownership currently? There is more good home ownership currently? There is more good news home ownership currently? There is more good news from home ownership currently? There is more good news from the home ownership currently? There is more good news from the Government. more good news from the Government. There more good news from the Government. There are more good news from the Government. There are more more good news from the Government. There are more than more good news from the Government. There are more than 1,200 more good news from the Government. 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Budget 2018 funded 6,400 more public homes over the 6,400 more public homes over the next 6,400 more public homes over the next four 6,400 more public homes over the next four years 6,400 more public homes over the next four years and 6,400 more public homes over the next four years and Housing 6,400 more public homes over the next four years and Housing New next four years and Housing New Zealand next four years and Housing New Zealand is next four years and Housing New Zealand is currently next four years and Housing New Zealand is currently investing next four years and Housing New Zealand is currently investing $4 Zealand is currently investing $4 billion Zealand is currently investing $4 billion in Zealand is currently investing $4 billion in a Zealand is currently investing $4 billion in a massive Zealand is currently investing $4 billion in a massive build Zealand is currently investing $4 billion in a massive build programme billion in a massive build programme to billion in a massive build programme to increase billion in a massive build programme to increase state billion in a massive build programme to increase state housing billion in a massive build programme to increase state housing and billion in a massive build programme to increase state housing and make to increase state housing and make the to increase state housing and make the existing to increase state housing and make the existing state to increase state housing and make the existing state houses to increase state housing and make the existing state houses warm to increase state housing and make the existing state houses warm and the existing state houses warm and dry. the existing state houses warm and dry. Our the existing state houses warm and dry. Our Government the existing state houses warm and dry. Our Government is the existing state houses warm and dry. Our Government is reforming the existing state houses warm and dry. Our Government is reforming and dry. Our Government is reforming and modernising dry. Our Government is reforming and modernising the dry. Our Government is reforming and modernising the tenancy dry. Our Government is reforming and modernising the tenancy laws, modernising the tenancy laws, discouraging modernising the tenancy laws, discouraging housing modernising the tenancy laws, discouraging housing speculation modernising the tenancy laws, discouraging housing speculation and discouraging housing speculation and putting discouraging housing speculation and putting more discouraging housing speculation and putting more resource discouraging housing speculation and putting more resource than discouraging housing speculation and putting more resource than ever putting more resource than ever before putting more resource than ever before into putting more resource than ever before into tackling putting more resource than ever before into tackling homelessness. before into tackling homelessness. Supplementary. before into tackling homelessness. Supplementary. As before into tackling homelessness. Supplementary. As minister Supplementary. As minister responsible Supplementary. 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As minister responsible for KiwiBuild, will he responsible for KiwiBuild, will he speak responsible for KiwiBuild, will he speak to responsible for KiwiBuild, will he speak to his responsible for KiwiBuild, will he speak to his colleague, responsible for KiwiBuild, will he speak to his colleague, the responsible for KiwiBuild, will he speak to his colleague, the Minister speak to his colleague, the Minister of speak to his colleague, the Minister of Justice speak to his colleague, the Minister of Justice about speak to his colleague, the Minister of Justice about whether speak to his colleague, the Minister of Justice about whether KiwiBuild of Justice about whether KiwiBuild families of Justice about whether KiwiBuild families should of Justice about whether KiwiBuild families should be of Justice about whether KiwiBuild families should be protected of Justice about whether KiwiBuild families should be protected under families should be protected under families should be protected under families should be protected under the Harmful families should be protected under the Harmful Digital families should be protected under the Harmful Digital Communications the Harmful Digital Communications Act the Harmful Digital Communications families the Harmful Digital Communications Act from the the Harmful Digital Communications Act from the actions the Harmful Digital Communications Act from the actions of the Harmful Digital Communications Act from the actions of opposition Act from the actions of opposition MPs? 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I think that is an excellent decision because I think almost decision because I think almost everybody decision because I think almost everybody in decision because I think almost everybody in this decision because I think almost everybody in this House decision because I think almost everybody in this House believes everybody in this House believes that everybody in this House believes that cyber everybody in this House believes that cyber bullying, everybody in this House believes that cyber bullying, particularly everybody in this House believes that cyber bullying, particularly of that cyber bullying, particularly of private that cyber bullying, particularly of private citizens, that cyber bullying, particularly of private citizens, has that cyber bullying, particularly of private citizens, has no that cyber bullying, particularly of private citizens, has no place that cyber bullying, particularly of private citizens, has no place in private citizens, has no place in our private citizens, has no place in our politics. private citizens, has no place in our politics. Order! private citizens, has no place in our politics. Order! Order! private citizens, has no place in our politics. Order! Order! Order! our politics. Order! Order! Order! The our politics. Order! Order! Order! The Hon our politics. Order! Order! Order! The Hon Judith our politics. Order! Order! Order! The Hon Judith Collins. our politics. Order! Order! Order! The Hon Judith Collins. Thank our politics. Order! Order! Order! The Hon Judith Collins. Thank you, The Hon Judith Collins. Thank you, Mr The Hon Judith Collins. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The Hon Judith Collins. Thank you, Mr Speaker. What The Hon Judith Collins. Thank you, Mr Speaker. What has The Hon Judith Collins. Thank you, Mr Speaker. What has happened The Hon Judith Collins. Thank you, Mr Speaker. What has happened to Mr Speaker. What has happened to change Mr Speaker. What has happened to change his Mr Speaker. What has happened to change his mind Mr Speaker. What has happened to change his mind that Mr Speaker. What has happened to change his mind that instead Mr Speaker. What has happened to change his mind that instead of change his mind that instead of waiting change his mind that instead of waiting five change his mind that instead of waiting five years change his mind that instead of waiting five years to change his mind that instead of waiting five years to be change his mind that instead of waiting five years to be able change his mind that instead of waiting five years to be able to waiting five years to be able to sell waiting five years to be able to sell a waiting five years to be able to sell a KiwiBuild, waiting five years to be able to sell a KiwiBuild, the waiting five years to be able to sell a KiwiBuild, the owners waiting five years to be able to sell a KiwiBuild, the owners can waiting five years to be able to sell a KiwiBuild, the owners can now sell a KiwiBuild, the owners can now sell sell a KiwiBuild, the owners can now sell after sell a KiwiBuild, the owners can now sell after only sell a KiwiBuild, the owners can now sell after only three sell a KiwiBuild, the owners can now sell after only three years? sell a KiwiBuild, the owners can now sell after only three years? We sell after only three years? We listened sell after only three years? We listened to sell after only three years? We listened to expert sell after only three years? We listened to expert opinion. sell after only three years? We listened to expert opinion. We listened to expert opinion. We weighed listened to expert opinion. We weighed up listened to expert opinion. We weighed up all listened to expert opinion. We weighed up all of listened to expert opinion. We weighed up all of the listened to expert opinion. We weighed up all of the competing weighed up all of the competing factors weighed up all of the competing factors and weighed up all of the competing factors and tried weighed up all of the competing factors and tried to weighed up all of the competing factors and tried to settle weighed up all of the competing factors and tried to settle on weighed up all of the competing factors and tried to settle on the factors and tried to settle on the best factors and tried to settle on the best and factors and tried to settle on the best and most factors and tried to settle on the best and most wise factors and tried to settle on the best and most wise policy factors and tried to settle on the best and most wise policy that factors and tried to settle on the best and most wise policy that we best and most wise policy that we could. best and most wise policy that we could. Supplementary. best and most wise policy that we could. Supplementary. What best and most wise policy that we could. Supplementary. What steps best and most wise policy that we could. Supplementary. What steps has could. Supplementary. What steps has he could. Supplementary. What steps has he taken could. Supplementary. What steps has he taken to could. Supplementary. What steps has he taken to securetise could. Supplementary. What steps has he taken to securetise against could. Supplementary. What steps has he taken to securetise against the he taken to securetise against the certificates he taken to securetise against the certificates of he taken to securetise against the certificates of title he taken to securetise against the certificates of title any he taken to securetise against the certificates of title any deed certificates of title any deed requiring certificates of title any deed requiring a certificates of title any deed requiring a payment certificates of title any deed requiring a payment of certificates of title any deed requiring a payment of capital certificates of title any deed requiring a payment of capital gain requiring a payment of capital gain in requiring a payment of capital gain in the requiring a payment of capital gain in the event requiring a payment of capital gain in the event that requiring a payment of capital gain in the event that the requiring a payment of capital gain in the event that the houses requiring a payment of capital gain in the event that the houses sold in the event that the houses sold within in the event that the houses sold within three in the event that the houses sold within three years? in the event that the houses sold within three years? 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That's not part of our policy but we have got of our policy but we have got provisions of our policy but we have got provisions in of our policy but we have got provisions in place of our policy but we have got provisions in place under of our policy but we have got provisions in place under KiwiBuild provisions in place under KiwiBuild to provisions in place under KiwiBuild to ensure provisions in place under KiwiBuild to ensure that provisions in place under KiwiBuild to ensure that if provisions in place under KiwiBuild to ensure that if people provisions in place under KiwiBuild to ensure that if people understand to ensure that if people understand that to ensure that if people understand that they to ensure that if people understand that they are to ensure that if people understand that they are required to ensure that if people understand that they are required to to ensure that if people understand that they are required to live to ensure that if people understand that they are required to live in that they are required to live in that that they are required to live in that house, that they are required to live in that house, not that they are required to live in that house, not to that they are required to live in that house, not to sell that they are required to live in that house, not to sell it that they are required to live in that house, not to sell it within that house, not to sell it within that house, not to sell it within that house, not to sell it within three years, that house, not to sell it within three years, if that house, not to sell it within three years, if they that house, not to sell it within three years, if they do that house, not to sell it within three years, if they do choose that house, not to sell it within three years, if they do choose to three years, if they do choose to sell three years, if they do choose to sell it three years, if they do choose to sell it within three years, if they do choose to sell it within three three years, if they do choose to sell it within three years three years, if they do choose to sell it within three years they three years, if they do choose to sell it within three years they have sell it within three years they have to sell it within three years they have sell sell it within three years they have to have a sell it within three years they have to have a conversation sell it within three years they have to have a conversation with to have a conversation with KiwiBuild. to have a conversation with KiwiBuild. There to have a conversation with KiwiBuild. There will to have a conversation with KiwiBuild. There will be to have a conversation with KiwiBuild. There will be a KiwiBuild. There will be a case-by-case KiwiBuild. There will be a case-by-case decision KiwiBuild. There will be a case-by-case decision made KiwiBuild. There will be a case-by-case decision made on case-by-case decision made on whether case-by-case decision made on whether it case-by-case decision made on whether it is case-by-case decision made on whether it is justifiable case-by-case decision made on whether it is justifiable for case-by-case decision made on whether it is justifiable for them whether it is justifiable for them whether it is justifiable for them whether it is justifiable for them to sell whether it is justifiable for them to sell within whether it is justifiable for them to sell within those whether it is justifiable for them to sell within those three whether it is justifiable for them to sell within those three years to sell within those three years that. to sell within those three years that. Is to sell within those three years that. Is a to sell within those three years that. Is a practical to sell within those three years that. Is a practical and to sell within those three years that. Is a practical and perfectly that. Is a practical and perfectly reasonable that. Is a practical and perfectly reasonable response that. Is a practical and perfectly reasonable response to that. Is a practical and perfectly reasonable response to that reasonable response to that situation. reasonable response to that situation. Was reasonable response to that situation. Was it reasonable response to that situation. Was it the reasonable response to that situation. Was it the minister's situation. Was it the minister's expectation situation. Was it the minister's expectation that situation. Was it the minister's expectation that the situation. Was it the minister's expectation that the first situation. Was it the minister's expectation that the first families expectation that the first families who expectation that the first families who would expectation that the first families who would move expectation that the first families who would move into expectation that the first families who would move into KiwiBuild expectation that the first families who would move into KiwiBuild homes who would move into KiwiBuild homes would who would move into KiwiBuild homes would be who would move into KiwiBuild homes would be the who would move into KiwiBuild homes would be the subject who would move into KiwiBuild homes would be the subject of who would move into KiwiBuild homes would be the subject of a would be the subject of a disgraceful would be the subject of a disgraceful cyber would be the subject of a disgraceful cyber bullying would be the subject of a disgraceful cyber bullying campaign disgraceful cyber bullying campaign and disgraceful cyber bullying campaign and would disgraceful cyber bullying campaign and would he disgraceful cyber bullying campaign and would he expect disgraceful cyber bullying campaign and would he expect anyone disgraceful cyber bullying campaign and would he expect anyone who disgraceful cyber bullying campaign and would he expect anyone who did and would he expect anyone who did that and would he expect anyone who did that to and would he expect anyone who did that to apologise? and would he expect anyone who did that to apologise? Yes, and would he expect anyone who did that to apologise? Yes, I and would he expect anyone who did that to apologise? Yes, I would, and would he expect anyone who did that to apologise? Yes, I would, Mr that to apologise? Yes, I would, Mr Speaker. that to apologise? Yes, I would, Mr Speaker. This that to apologise? Yes, I would, Mr Speaker. This young that to apologise? Yes, I would, Mr Speaker. This young couple that to apologise? Yes, I would, Mr Speaker. This young couple did Speaker. This young couple did nothing Speaker. This young couple did nothing more Speaker. This young couple did nothing more than Speaker. This young couple did nothing more than take Speaker. This young couple did nothing more than take advantage Speaker. 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Last Last week Last week I Last week I signed Last week I signed a Last week I signed a memorandum Last week I signed a memorandum of Last week I signed a memorandum of cooperation Last week I signed a memorandum of cooperation with Last week I signed a memorandum of cooperation with Japan's Last week I signed a memorandum of cooperation with Japan's economic, cooperation with Japan's economic, cooperation with Japan's economic, cooperation with Japan's economic, trade and cooperation with Japan's economic, trade and Industry cooperation with Japan's economic, trade and Industry Minister cooperation with Japan's economic, trade and Industry Minister on cooperation with Japan's economic, trade and Industry Minister on the trade and Industry Minister on the development trade and Industry Minister on the development of trade and Industry Minister on the development of hydrogen trade and Industry Minister on the development of hydrogen technology. development of hydrogen technology. 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This interests in working with Japan on developing hydrogen. This Government developing hydrogen. This Government sees developing hydrogen. This Government sees great developing hydrogen. This Government sees great potential developing hydrogen. This Government sees great potential in developing hydrogen. This Government sees great potential in alternative sees great potential in alternative energy sees great potential in alternative energy sources sees great potential in alternative energy sources such sees great potential in alternative energy sources such as sees great potential in alternative energy sources such as hydrogen, sees great potential in alternative energy sources such as hydrogen, in energy sources such as hydrogen, in particular energy sources such as hydrogen, in particular green energy sources such as hydrogen, in particular green hydrogen, energy sources such as hydrogen, in particular green hydrogen, generated particular green hydrogen, generated from particular green hydrogen, generated from renewable particular green hydrogen, generated from renewable energy particular green hydrogen, generated from renewable energy as particular green hydrogen, generated from renewable energy as we from renewable energy as we transition from renewable energy as we transition away from renewable energy as we transition away from from renewable energy as we transition away from a from renewable energy as we transition away from a reliance from renewable energy as we transition away from a reliance on transition away from a reliance on transition away from a reliance on transition away from a reliance on fossil fuels transition away from a reliance on fossil fuels and transition away from a reliance on fossil fuels and towards transition away from a reliance on fossil fuels and towards a fossil fuels and towards a low-emissions fossil fuels and towards a low-emissions renewable fossil fuels and towards a low-emissions renewable future. fossil fuels and towards a low-emissions renewable future. What low-emissions renewable future. What developments low-emissions renewable future. What developments have low-emissions renewable future. What developments have been low-emissions renewable future. What developments have been made low-emissions renewable future. What developments have been made in low-emissions renewable future. What developments have been made in New developments have been made in New developments have been made in New developments have been made in New Zealand to developments have been made in New Zealand to advance developments have been made in New Zealand to advance the developments have been made in New Zealand to advance the production Zealand to advance the production and Zealand to advance the production and use Zealand to advance the production and use of Zealand to advance the production and use of hydrogen? Zealand to advance the production and use of hydrogen? Last Zealand to advance the production and use of hydrogen? Last week and use of hydrogen? 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This hydrogen fuel cell technology transport solution. This is hydrogen fuel cell technology transport solution. This is an transport solution. This is an exciting transport solution. This is an transport transport solution. This is an exciting development and transport solution. This is an exciting development and follows transport solution. 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Question hydrogen could also be part of that future. Question No.9. future. future. Question future. Question No.9. 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What produce more renewable electricity. What research produce more renewable electricity. What research does produce more renewable electricity. What research does the produce more renewable electricity. What research does the minister produce more renewable electricity. 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China China that China that are China that are ruling China that are ruling out China that are ruling out more China that are ruling out more coal China that are ruling out more coal production. China that are ruling out more coal production. Question China that are ruling out more coal production. Question No.11. 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Any further supplementaries. Thank you. Any further supplementaries. No.12. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Workplace My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations and My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety: My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety: What Workplace Relations and Safety: What progress, Workplace Relations and Safety: What progress, if Workplace Relations and Safety: What progress, if any, Workplace Relations and Safety: What progress, if any, has Workplace Relations and Safety: What progress, if any, has he Workplace Relations and Safety: What progress, if any, has he made progress, if any, has he made regarding progress, if any, has he made regarding changes progress, if any, has he made regarding changes to progress, if any, has he made regarding changes to the progress, if any, has he made regarding changes to the Employment regarding changes to the Employment Relations regarding changes to the Employment Relations Amendment regarding changes to the Employment Relations Amendment Bill regarding changes to the Employment Relations Amendment Bill as regarding changes to the Employment Relations Amendment Bill as reported Relations Amendment Bill as reported back Relations Amendment Bill as reported back from Relations Amendment Bill as reported back from the Relations Amendment Bill as reported back from the Education Relations Amendment Bill as reported back from the Education and back from the Education and Workforce back from the Education and Workforce Committee? I I have I have had I have had very I have had very constructive I have had very constructive discussions I have had very constructive discussions with I have had very constructive discussions with my I have had very constructive discussions with my Government discussions with my Government colleagues discussions with my Government colleagues and discussions with my Government colleagues and I discussions with my Government colleagues and I am discussions with my Government colleagues and I am confident discussions with my Government colleagues and I am confident that colleagues and I am confident that colleagues and I am confident that colleagues and I am confident that the bill colleagues and I am confident that the bill will colleagues and I am confident that the bill will pass colleagues and I am confident that the bill will pass with colleagues and I am confident that the bill will pass with a the bill will pass with a the bill will pass with a the bill will pass with a parliamentary majority the bill will pass with a parliamentary majority before the bill will pass with a parliamentary majority before the parliamentary majority before the end parliamentary majority before the end of parliamentary majority before the end of this parliamentary majority before the end of this year. parliamentary majority before the end of this year. Is parliamentary majority before the end of this year. Is he parliamentary majority before the end of this year. Is he considering end of this year. Is he considering making end of this year. Is he considering making changes end of this year. Is he considering making changes to end of this year. Is he considering making changes to the end of this year. Is he considering making changes to the Employment making changes to the Employment Relations making changes to the Employment Relations Amendment making changes to the Employment Relations Amendment Bill making changes to the Employment Relations Amendment Bill regarding making changes to the Employment making making changes to the Employment opt in and making changes to the Employment opt in and opt making changes to the Employment opt in and opt out making changes to the Employment opt in and opt out provisions opt in and opt out provisions relating opt in and opt out provisions relating to opt in and opt out provisions relating to union opt in and opt out provisions relating to union membership? opt in and opt out provisions relating to union membership? Mr relating to union membership? Mr Speaker, relating to union membership? Mr Speaker, no. relating to union membership? Mr Speaker, no. Does relating to union membership? Mr Speaker, no. Does he relating to union membership? Mr Speaker, no. Does he agree relating to union membership? Mr Speaker, no. Does he agree with Speaker, no. Does he agree with section Speaker, no. Does he agree with section 17 Speaker, no. Does he agree with section 17 of Speaker, no. Does he agree with section 17 of the Speaker, no. Does he agree with section 17 of the New Speaker, no. Does he agree with section 17 of the New Zealand Speaker, no. Does he agree with section 17 of the New Zealand Bill section 17 of the New Zealand Bill section 17 of the New Zealand Bill section 17 of the New Zealand Bill of Rights section 17 of the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act section 17 of the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990 section 17 of the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990 which section 17 of the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990 which declares section 17 of the New Zealand Bill that everyone section 17 of the New Zealand Bill that everyone has section 17 of the New Zealand Bill that everyone has the section 17 of the New Zealand Bill that everyone has the right section 17 of the New Zealand Bill that everyone has the right to that everyone has the right to freedom that everyone has the right to freedom of that everyone has the right to freedom of association? that everyone has the right to freedom of association? Yes. that everyone has the right to freedom of association? Yes. Does that everyone has the right to freedom of association? Yes. Does he freedom of association? Yes. Does he support freedom of association? Yes. Does he support the freedom of association? Yes. Does he support the concept freedom of association? Yes. Does he support the concept of freedom of association? Yes. Does he support the concept of voluntary