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INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: Almighty INTERPRETER: Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. The The Hon The Hon Chris The Hon Chris Hipkins. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Next The Hon Chris Hipkins. Next week The Hon Chris Hipkins. Next week the The Hon Chris Hipkins. Next week the Crown The Hon Chris Hipkins. Next week the Crown Minerals The Hon Chris Hipkins. Next week the Crown Minerals (Petroleum) The Hon Chris Hipkins. Next week the Crown Minerals (Petroleum) Amendment Crown Minerals (Petroleum) Amendment Crown Minerals (Petroleum) Amendment Crown Minerals (Petroleum) Amendment Bill will Crown Minerals (Petroleum) Amendment Bill will complete Crown Minerals (Petroleum) Amendment Bill will complete its Crown Minerals (Petroleum) Amendment Bill will complete its remaining Bill will complete its remaining stages. Bill will complete its remaining Bill Bill will complete its remaining stages. Third read Bill will complete its remaining stages. Third read eggs Bill will complete its remaining stages. Third read eggs will Bill will complete its remaining stages. 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I want to acknowledge all the ministers who acknowledge all the ministers who have acknowledge all the ministers who have been acknowledge all the ministers who have been involved acknowledge all the ministers who have been involved but acknowledge all the ministers who have been involved but in acknowledge all the ministers who have been involved but in particular have been involved but in particular the have been involved but in particular the local have been involved but in particular the local member, have been involved but in particular the local member, Kris have been involved but in particular the local member, Kris Faafoi, have been involved but in particular the local member, Kris Faafoi, for the local member, Kris Faafoi, for his the local member, Kris Faafoi, for his tireless the local member, Kris Faafoi, for his tireless advocacy the local member, Kris Faafoi, for his tireless advocacy for the local member, Kris Faafoi, for his tireless advocacy for the the local member, Kris Faafoi, for his tireless advocacy for the city his tireless advocacy for the city of his tireless advocacy for the city of parry his tireless advocacy for the city of parry rua. his tireless advocacy for the city of parry rua. -- his tireless advocacy for the city of parry rua. -- porirua. his tireless advocacy for the city of parry rua. -- porirua. Yes his tireless advocacy for the city of parry rua. -- porirua. Yes No.2. of of parry of parry rua. of parry rua. -- of parry rua. -- porirua. of parry rua. -- porirua. Yes of parry rua. -- porirua. Yes No.2. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Immigration: My question is to the Minister of Immigration: Does My question is to the Minister of Immigration: Does he My question is to the Minister of Immigration: Does he stand My question is to the Minister of Immigration: Does he stand by My question is to the Minister of Immigration: Does he stand by all Immigration: Does he stand by all his Immigration: Does he stand by all his statements Immigration: Does he stand by all his statements and Immigration: Does he stand by all his statements and actions Immigration: Does he stand by all his statements and actions in his statements and actions in relation his statements and actions in relation to his statements and actions in relation to Karel his statements and actions in relation to Karel Sroubek, his statements and actions in relation to Karel Sroubek, also relation to Karel Sroubek, also known relation to Karel Sroubek, also known as relation to Karel Sroubek, also known as Jan relation to Karel Sroubek, also known as Jan Antolik? Yes Yes in Yes in the Yes in the context Yes in the context of Yes in the context of the Yes in the context of the information Yes in the context of the information that Yes in the context of the information that I Yes in the context of the information that I had Yes in the context of the information that I had available Yes in the context of the information that I had available at information that I had available at information that I had available at information that I had available at the time. information that I had available at the time. <INTERRUPTION> the time. <INTERRUPTION> Did the time. <INTERRUPTION> Did Mr the time. <INTERRUPTION> Did Mr Sroubek's the time. <INTERRUPTION> Did Mr Sroubek's immigration the time. <INTERRUPTION> Did Mr Sroubek's immigration lawyer Did Mr Sroubek's immigration lawyer seek Did Mr Sroubek's immigration lawyer seek residence Did Mr Sroubek's immigration lawyer seek residence for Did Mr Sroubek's immigration lawyer seek residence for his Did Mr Sroubek's immigration lawyer seek residence for his client Did Mr Sroubek's immigration lawyer seek residence for his client or seek residence for his client or simply seek residence for his client or simply cancellation seek residence for his client or simply cancellation of seek residence for his client or simply cancellation of deportation simply cancellation of deportation liability? simply cancellation of deportation liability? Mr simply cancellation of deportation liability? Mr Speaker, simply cancellation of deportation liability? Mr Speaker, no. simply cancellation of deportation liability? Mr Speaker, no. The liability? Mr Speaker, no. The determination liability? Mr Speaker, no. The determination that liability? Mr Speaker, no. The determination that I liability? Mr Speaker, no. The determination that I made liability? Mr Speaker, no. 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Was there Yes. Was there extradition Yes. Was there extradition request Yes. Was there extradition request made Yes. Was there extradition request made by Yes. Was there extradition request made by Czech Yes. Was there extradition request made by Czech Republic Yes. Was there extradition request made by Czech Republic officials made by Czech Republic officials made by Czech Republic officials made by Czech Republic officials concerning Karel made by Czech Republic officials concerning Karel Sroubek? made by Czech Republic officials concerning Karel Sroubek? No. made by Czech Republic officials concerning Karel Sroubek? No. Why concerning Karel Sroubek? No. Why did concerning Karel Sroubek? No. Why did the concerning Karel Sroubek? No. Why did the Parole concerning Karel Sroubek? No. Why did the Parole Board concerning Karel Sroubek? No. Why did the Parole Board say, concerning Karel Sroubek? 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Whakamana Rua Tekau ma Iwa Pike River Recovery Agency. The Whakamana Rua Tekau ma Iwa Pike River Recovery Agency. The agency River Recovery Agency. The agency has River Recovery Agency. The agency has identified River Recovery Agency. The agency has identified three River Recovery Agency. The agency has identified three re-entry has identified three re-entry options has identified three re-entry options to has identified three re-entry options to recover has identified three re-entry options to recover the has identified three re-entry options to recover the drift. has identified three re-entry options to recover the drift. These options to recover the drift. These are options to recover the drift. These are to options to recover the drift. These are to drive options to recover the drift. These are to drive a options to recover the drift. These are to drive a small options to recover the drift. These are to drive a small tunnel options to recover the drift. These are to drive a small tunnel to are to drive a small tunnel to create are to drive a small tunnel to create a are to drive a small tunnel to create a ventilation are to drive a small tunnel to create a ventilation circuit, create a ventilation circuit, secondly, create a ventilation circuit, secondly, single create a ventilation circuit, secondly, single entry create a ventilation circuit, secondly, single entry using create a ventilation circuit, secondly, single entry using the secondly, single entry using the existing secondly, single entry using the existing main secondly, single entry using the existing main drift secondly, single entry using the existing main drift access secondly, single entry using the existing main drift access tunnel secondly, single entry using the existing main drift access tunnel as existing main drift access tunnel as existing main drift access tunnel as existing main drift access tunnel as the sole existing main drift access tunnel as the sole means existing main drift access tunnel as the sole means to existing main drift access tunnel as the sole means to ventilate existing main drift access tunnel as the sole means to ventilate the existing main drift access tunnel as the sole means to ventilate the main the sole means to ventilate the main drift. the sole means to ventilate the main drift. And the sole means to ventilate the main drift. And single the sole means to ventilate the main drift. And single entry the sole means to ventilate the main drift. And single entry with the sole means to ventilate the main drift. And single entry with a the sole means to ventilate the main drift. And single entry with a large drift. And single entry with a large die drift. And single entry with a large die yammer drift. And single entry with a large die yammer the drift. And single entry with a large die yammer the bore drift. And single entry with a large die yammer the bore hole. drift. And single entry with a large die yammer the bore hole. I drift. And single entry with a large die yammer the bore hole. I have die yammer the bore hole. I have received die yammer the bore hole. I have received advice die yammer the bore hole. I have received advice if die yammer the bore hole. I have received advice if my die yammer the bore hole. 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According to the reports all of the options are the reports all of the options are safe the reports all of the options are safe and the reports all of the options are safe and feasible the reports all of the options are safe and feasible and the reports all of the options are safe and feasible and the the reports all of the options are safe and feasible and the product the reports all of the options are safe and feasible and the product of safe and feasible and the product of months safe and feasible and the product of months of safe and feasible and the product of months of rigorous safe and feasible and the product of months of rigorous analysis safe and feasible and the product of months of rigorous analysis and safe and feasible and the product of months of rigorous analysis and risk months of rigorous analysis and risk assessment. months of rigorous analysis and risk assessment. Why months of rigorous analysis and risk assessment. Why is months of rigorous analysis and risk assessment. Why is the months of rigorous analysis and risk assessment. Why is the re-entering assessment. Why is the re-entering of assessment. Why is the re-entering of the assessment. Why is the re-entering of the Pike assessment. Why is the re-entering of the Pike River assessment. Why is the re-entering of the Pike River drift assessment. Why is the re-entering of the Pike River drift important? of the Pike River drift important? The of the Pike River drift important? The explosion of the Pike River drift important? The explosion at of the Pike River drift important? The explosion at the of the Pike River drift important? The explosion at the Pike of the Pike River drift important? The explosion at the Pike River of the Pike River drift important? The explosion at the Pike River Mine The explosion at the Pike River Mine on The explosion at the Pike River Mine on 19 The explosion at the Pike River Mine on 19 November The explosion at the Pike River Mine on 19 November 2010 The explosion at the Pike River Mine on 19 November 2010 was The explosion at the Pike River Mine on 19 November 2010 was a The explosion at the Pike River Mine on 19 November 2010 was a national on 19 November 2010 was a national tragedy. on 19 November 2010 was a national tragedy. Therefore, on 19 November 2010 was a national tragedy. Therefore, the on 19 November 2010 was a national tragedy. Therefore, the re-entry on 19 November 2010 was a national tragedy. Therefore, the re-entry and tragedy. Therefore, the re-entry and recovery tragedy. Therefore, the re-entry and recovery of tragedy. Therefore, the re-entry and recovery of the tragedy. Therefore, the re-entry and recovery of the Pike tragedy. Therefore, the re-entry and recovery of the Pike River tragedy. Therefore, the re-entry and recovery of the Pike River drift tragedy. Therefore, the re-entry and recovery of the Pike River drift is recovery of the Pike River drift is an recovery of the Pike River drift is an act recovery of the Pike River drift is an act of recovery of the Pike River drift is an act of justice recovery of the Pike River drift is an act of justice to recovery of the Pike River drift is an act of justice to bring recovery of the Pike River drift is an act of justice to bring closure an act of justice to bring closure to an act of justice to bring closure to the an act of justice to bring closure to the families an act of justice to bring closure to the families of an act of justice to bring closure to the families of the an act of justice to bring closure to the families of the 29 an act of justice to bring closure to the families of the 29 men an act of justice to bring closure to the families of the 29 men who to the families of the 29 men who lost to the families of the 29 men who lost their to the families of the 29 men who lost their lives to the families of the 29 men who lost their lives in to the families of the 29 men who lost their lives in that to the families of the 29 men who lost their lives in that event to the families of the 29 men who lost their lives in that event and lost their lives in that event and by lost their lives in that event and by ascertaining lost their lives in that event and by ascertaining the lost their lives in that event and by ascertaining the causes lost their lives in that event and by ascertaining the causes of lost their lives in that event and by ascertaining the causes of the by ascertaining the causes of the explosion by ascertaining the causes of the explosion so by ascertaining the causes of the explosion so we by ascertaining the causes of the explosion so we can by ascertaining the causes of the explosion so we can ensure by ascertaining the causes of the explosion so we can ensure that by ascertaining the causes of the explosion so we can ensure that a explosion so we can ensure that a disaster explosion so we can ensure that a disaster like explosion so we can ensure that a disaster like this explosion so we can ensure that a disaster like this never explosion so we can ensure that a disaster like this never happens disaster like this never happens again. disaster like this never happens again. What disaster like this never happens again. What is disaster like this never happens again. What is the disaster like this never happens again. What is the timeline disaster like this never happens again. What is the timeline on again. What is the timeline on re-entering again. What is the timeline on re-entering the again. What is the timeline on re-entering the Pike again. What is the timeline on re-entering the Pike River again. What is the timeline on re-entering the Pike River drift re-entering the Pike River drift from re-entering the Pike River drift from here? re-entering the Pike River drift from here? It re-entering the Pike River drift from here? It is re-entering the Pike River drift from here? It is my re-entering the Pike River drift from here? It is my responsibility from here? It is my responsibility as from here? It is my responsibility as minister from here? It is my responsibility as minister to from here? It is my responsibility as minister to carefully from here? It is my responsibility as minister to carefully weigh from here? It is my responsibility as minister to carefully weigh the as minister to carefully weigh the options as minister to carefully weigh the options alongside as minister to carefully weigh the options alongside Rob as minister to carefully weigh the options alongside Rob Fyfes options alongside Rob Fyfes independent options alongside Rob Fyfes independent advice. options alongside Rob Fyfes independent advice. I options alongside Rob Fyfes independent advice. I take options alongside Rob Fyfes independent advice. I take that independent advice. I take that response independent advice. I take that response built independent advice. I take that response built seriously independent advice. I take that response built seriously and independent advice. I take that response built seriously and expect response built seriously and expect to response built seriously and expect to make response built seriously and expect to make a response built seriously and expect to make a decision response built seriously and expect to make a decision by response built seriously and expect to make a decision by mid-November. to make a decision by mid-November. Question to make a decision by mid-November. Question No.5. to make a decision by mid-November. Question No.5. Fish Question Question No.5. Question No.5. 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Is there any objection to those two being today. Yes. Is there any objection to those two being tabled? today. Yes. Is there any objection to those two being tabled? There to those two being tabled? There appears to those two being tabled? There appears to to those two being tabled? There appears to be to those two being tabled? There appears to be none. to those two being tabled? There appears to be none. Thank to those two being tabled? There appears to be none. Thank you, to those two being tabled? There appears to be none. Thank you, Mr appears to be none. Thank you, Mr Speaker. appears to be none. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Further appears to be none. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Further supplementary? Speaker. Further supplementary? Question Speaker. Further supplementary? Question No.6. Question Question No.6. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Pacific My question is to the Minister for Pacific Peoples: My question is to the Minister for Pacific Peoples: What My question is to the Minister for Pacific Peoples: What recent Pacific Peoples: What recent announcements Pacific Peoples: What recent announcements has Pacific Peoples: What recent announcements has he Pacific Peoples: What recent announcements has he made Pacific Peoples: What recent announcements has he made regarding announcements has he made regarding the announcements has he made regarding the future announcements has he made regarding the future of announcements has he made regarding the future of Pacific announcements has he made regarding the future of Pacific peoples announcements has he made regarding the future of Pacific peoples in the future of Pacific peoples in Aotearoa? I I recently I recently launched I recently launched the I recently launched the Pacific I recently launched the Pacific Aotearoa I recently launched the Pacific Aotearoa website I recently launched the Pacific Aotearoa website ahead I recently launched the Pacific Aotearoa website ahead of I recently launched the Pacific Aotearoa website ahead of the I recently launched the Pacific Aotearoa website ahead of the 13 Aotearoa website ahead of the 13 November Aotearoa website ahead of the 13 November pass Aotearoa website ahead of the 13 November pass Fix Aotearoa website ahead of the 13 November pass Fix Vision Aotearoa website ahead of the 13 November pass Fix Vision Summit Aotearoa website ahead of the 13 November pass Fix Vision Summit to November pass Fix Vision Summit to share November pass Fix Vision Summit to share what November pass Fix Vision Summit to share what the November pass Fix Vision Summit to share what the Pacific November pass Fix Vision Summit to share what the Pacific community share what the Pacific community have share what the Pacific community have said share what the Pacific community have said in share what the Pacific community have said in relation share what the Pacific community have said in relation to share what the Pacific community have said in relation to a share what the Pacific community have said in relation to a refreshed have said in relation to a refreshed Pacific have said in relation to a refreshed Pacific vision have said in relation to a refreshed Pacific vision for have said in relation to a refreshed Pacific vision for Pacific have said in relation to a refreshed Pacific vision for Pacific peoples Pacific vision for Pacific peoples of Pacific vision for Pacific peoples of Aotearoa-New Pacific vision for Pacific peoples of Aotearoa-New Zealand. 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With nearly two-thirds of our Pacific population two-thirds of our Pacific population two-thirds of our Pacific population two-thirds of our Pacific population now born two-thirds of our Pacific population now born in two-thirds of our Pacific population now born in New two-thirds of our Pacific population now born in New Zealand two-thirds of our Pacific population now born in New Zealand our two-thirds of our Pacific population now born in New Zealand our Pacific now born in New Zealand our Pacific story now born in New Zealand our Pacific story has now born in New Zealand our Pacific story has evolved now born in New Zealand our Pacific story has evolved from now born in New Zealand our Pacific story has evolved from a now born in New Zealand our Pacific story has evolved from a story now born in New Zealand our Pacific story has evolved from a story of story has evolved from a story of migration story has evolved from a story of migration to story has evolved from a story of migration to one story has evolved from a story of migration to one of story has evolved from a story of migration to one of belonging story has evolved from a story of migration to one of belonging to migration to one of belonging to Aotearoa-New migration to one of belonging to Aotearoa-New Zealand. migration to one of belonging to Aotearoa-New Zealand. It migration to one of belonging to Aotearoa-New Zealand. It is migration to one of belonging to Aotearoa-New Zealand. It is time migration to one of belonging to Aotearoa-New Zealand. It is time our Aotearoa-New Zealand. It is time our Pacific Aotearoa-New Zealand. It is time our Pacific vision, Aotearoa-New Zealand. It is time our Pacific vision, set Aotearoa-New Zealand. It is time our Pacific vision, set back Aotearoa-New Zealand. It is time our Pacific vision, set back in Aotearoa-New Zealand. It is time our Pacific vision, set back in 1999, Pacific vision, set back in 1999, Pacific vision, set back in 1999, Pacific vision, set back in 1999, was refreshed Pacific vision, set back in 1999, was refreshed to Pacific vision, set back in 1999, was refreshed to reflect Pacific vision, set back in 1999, was refreshed to reflect this. 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When When I When I became When I became the When I became the Minister When I became the Minister of When I became the Minister of Pacific When I became the Minister of Pacific Peoples When I became the Minister of Pacific Peoples I When I became the Minister of Pacific Peoples I asked When I became the Minister of Pacific Peoples I asked the When I became the Minister of Pacific Peoples I asked the ministry Pacific Peoples I asked the ministry to Pacific Peoples I asked the ministry to engage Pacific Peoples I asked the ministry to engage with Pacific Peoples I asked the ministry to engage with our Pacific Peoples I asked the ministry to engage with our communities to engage with our communities through to engage with our communities through the to engage with our communities through the Tallanor to engage with our communities through the Tallanor process to engage with our communities through the Tallanor process and to engage with our communities through the Tallanor process and our through the Tallanor process and our search through the Tallanor process and our search to through the Tallanor process and our search to find through the Tallanor process and our search to find inspiration through the Tallanor process and our search to find inspiration and search to find inspiration and confirmation search to find inspiration and confirmation from search to find inspiration and confirmation from our search to find inspiration and confirmation from our communities confirmation from our communities confirmation from our communities confirmation from our communities about what confirmation from our communities about what issues confirmation from our communities about what issues are confirmation from our communities about what issues are priority confirmation from our communities about what issues are priority to about what issues are priority to achieving about what issues are priority to achieving the about what issues are priority to achieving the general about what issues are priority to achieving the general wellbeing, about what issues are priority to achieving the general wellbeing, how achieving the general wellbeing, how achieving the general wellbeing, how achieving the general wellbeing, how we have achieving the general wellbeing, how we have fared achieving the general wellbeing, how we have fared in achieving the general wellbeing, how we have fared in the achieving the general wellbeing, how we have fared in the past, achieving the general wellbeing, how we have fared in the past, where achieving the general wellbeing, how we have fared in the past, where we we have fared in the past, where we are we have fared in the past, where we are today we have fared in the past, where we are today and we have fared in the past, where we are today and where we have fared in the past, where we are today and where we we have fared in the past, where we are today and where we want we have fared in the past, where we are today and where we want to we have fared in the past, where we are today and where we want to be we have fared in the past, where we are today and where we want to be in are today and where we want to be in the are today and where we want to be in the future are today and where we want to be in the future in are today and where we want to be in the future in our are today and where we want to be in the future in our collective are today and where we want to be in the future in our collective pursuit the future in our collective pursuit to the future in our collective pursuit to achieve the future in our collective pursuit to achieve success, the future in our collective pursuit to achieve success, prosperity the future in our collective pursuit to achieve success, prosperity and to achieve success, prosperity and security to achieve success, prosperity and security for to achieve success, prosperity and security for our to achieve success, prosperity and security for our families. to achieve success, prosperity and security for our families. To to achieve success, prosperity and security for our families. To date security for our families. To date we security for our families. To date we have security for our families. To date we have engaged security for our families. To date we have engaged with security for our families. To date we have engaged with more security for our families. To date we have engaged with more than security for our families. To date we have engaged with more than 130 we have engaged with more than 130 Pacific we have engaged with more than 130 Pacific groups we have engaged with more than 130 Pacific groups and we have engaged with more than 130 Pacific groups and more we have engaged with more than 130 Pacific groups and more than we have engaged with more than 130 Pacific groups and more than 2,500 Pacific groups and more than 2,500 Pacific groups and more than 2,500 Pacific groups and more than 2,500 Pacific people Pacific groups and more than 2,500 Pacific people representing Pacific groups and more than 2,500 Pacific people representing the Pacific people representing the diversity Pacific people representing the diversity of Pacific people representing the diversity of community Pacific people representing the diversity of community organisations diversity of community organisations and diversity of community organisations and the diversity of community organisations and the diverse diversity of community organisations and the diverse make-up diversity of community organisations and the diverse make-up of diversity of community organisations and the diverse make-up of Pacific and the diverse make-up of Pacific peoples and the diverse make-up of Pacific peoples who and the diverse make-up of Pacific peoples who willingly and the diverse make-up of Pacific peoples who willingly provided and the diverse make-up of Pacific peoples who willingly provided raw peoples who willingly provided raw and peoples who willingly provided raw and valuable peoples who willingly provided raw and valuable feedback peoples who willingly provided raw and valuable feedback in peoples who willingly provided raw and valuable feedback in developing and valuable feedback in developing and valuable feedback in developing and valuable feedback in developing a fresh and valuable feedback in developing a fresh Pacific and valuable feedback in developing a fresh Pacific vision. and valuable feedback in developing a fresh Pacific vision. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Energy My question is to the Minister of Energy and My question is to the Minister of Energy and Resources: My question is to the Minister of Energy and Resources: Has My question is to the Minister of Energy and Resources: Has she Energy and Resources: Has she received Energy and Resources: Has she received any Energy and Resources: Has she received any reports Energy and Resources: Has she received any reports which Energy and Resources: Has she received any reports which show Energy and Resources: Has she received any reports which show that received any reports which show that wholesale received any reports which show that wholesale electricity received any reports which show that wholesale electricity prices received any reports which show that wholesale electricity prices for received any reports which show that wholesale electricity prices for the wholesale electricity prices for the first wholesale electricity prices for the first 22 wholesale electricity prices for the first 22 days wholesale electricity prices for the first 22 days of wholesale electricity prices for the first 22 days of October wholesale electricity prices for the first 22 days of October 2018 wholesale electricity prices for the first 22 days of October 2018 are first 22 days of October 2018 are over first 22 days of October 2018 are over two first 22 days of October 2018 are over two 2 first 22 days of October 2018 are over two 2 .5 first 22 days of October 2018 are over two 2 .5 times first 22 days of October 2018 are over two 2 .5 times higher first 22 days of October 2018 are over two 2 .5 times higher than first 22 days of October 2018 are over two 2 .5 times higher than the over two 2 .5 times higher than the previous over two 2 .5 times higher than the previous record over two 2 .5 times higher than the previous record for over two 2 .5 times higher than the previous record for October, over two 2 .5 times higher than the previous record for October, which previous record for October, which was previous record for October, which was in previous record for October, which was in 2011, previous record for October, which was in 2011, and previous record for October, which was in 2011, and is previous record for October, which was in 2011, and is she previous record for October, which was in 2011, and is she aware previous record for October, which was in 2011, and is she aware of previous record for October, which was in 2011, and is she aware of the was in 2011, and is she aware of the main was in 2011, and is she aware of the main causes was in 2011, and is she aware of the main causes of was in 2011, and is she aware of the main causes of this was in 2011, and is she aware of the main causes of this record main causes of this record electricity main causes of this record electricity price? On On behalf On behalf of On behalf of the On behalf of the Minister On behalf of the Minister of On behalf of the Minister of Energy On behalf of the Minister of Energy and On behalf of the Minister of Energy and Resources, On behalf of the Minister of Energy and Resources, in On behalf of the Minister of Energy and Resources, in answer On behalf of the Minister of Energy and Resources, in answer to On behalf of the Minister of Energy and Resources, in answer to the and Resources, in answer to the first and Resources, in answer to the first part and Resources, in answer to the first part of and Resources, in answer to the first part of the and Resources, in answer to the first part of the question, and Resources, in answer to the first part of the question, no. and Resources, in answer to the first part of the question, no. In first part of the question, no. In answer first part of the question, no. In answer to first part of the question, no. 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Can we expect current high wholesale prices to become high wholesale prices to become normal high wholesale prices to become normal in high wholesale prices to become normal in the high wholesale prices to become normal in the future high wholesale prices to become normal in the future as high wholesale prices to become normal in the future as gas high wholesale prices to become normal in the future as gas reserves normal in the future as gas reserves rapidly normal in the future as gas reserves rapidly deplete, normal in the future as gas reserves rapidly deplete, as normal in the future as gas reserves rapidly deplete, as has normal in the future as gas reserves rapidly deplete, as has been normal in the future as gas reserves rapidly deplete, as has been in normal in the future as gas reserves rapidly deplete, as has been in the rapidly deplete, as has been in the case rapidly deplete, as has been in the case currently? rapidly deplete, as has been in the case currently? 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So does she still disagree with her does she still disagree with her officials does she still disagree with her officials that does she still disagree with her officials that her does she still disagree with her officials that her offshore officials that her offshore exploration officials that her offshore exploration ban officials that her offshore exploration ban will officials that her offshore exploration ban will increase exploration ban will increase electricity exploration ban will increase electricity prices exploration ban will increase electricity prices and exploration ban will increase electricity prices and will exploration ban will increase electricity prices and will increase exploration ban will increase electricity exploration ban will increase greenhouse gas emissions exploration ban will increase greenhouse gas emissions when exploration ban will increase greenhouse gas emissions when these greenhouse gas emissions when these two greenhouse gas emissions when these two things greenhouse gas emissions when these two things are greenhouse gas emissions when these two things are happening greenhouse gas emissions when these two things are happening right greenhouse gas emissions when these two things are happening right now two things are happening right now as two things are happening right now as an two things are happening right now as an example two things are happening right now as an example due two things are happening right now as an example due to two things are happening right now as an example due to natural two things are happening right now as an example due to natural gas as an example due to natural gas shortage as an example due to natural gas shortage of as an example due to natural gas shortage of supply? as an example due to natural gas shortage of supply? 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So with the Crown Minerals (Petroleum) the Crown Minerals (Petroleum) the Crown Minerals (Petroleum) the Crown Minerals (Petroleum) Amendment Bill the Crown Minerals (Petroleum) Amendment Bill going the Crown Minerals (Petroleum) Amendment Bill going through the Crown Minerals (Petroleum) Amendment Bill going through the Amendment Bill going through the House Amendment Bill going through the House today Amendment Bill going through the House today and Amendment Bill going through the House today and next Amendment Bill going through the House today and next week, Amendment Bill going through the House today and next week, can Amendment Bill going through the House today and next week, can the House today and next week, can the minister House today and next week, can the minister give House today and next week, can the minister give us House today and next week, can the minister give us a House today and next week, can the minister give us a guarantee House today and next week, can the minister give us a guarantee that minister give us a guarantee that this minister give us a guarantee that this bill minister give us a guarantee that this bill will minister give us a guarantee that this bill will not minister give us a guarantee that this bill will not contribute minister give us a guarantee that this bill will not contribute to this bill will not contribute to electricity this bill will not contribute to electricity price this bill will not contribute to electricity price increases? this bill will not contribute to electricity price increases? 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So illicit drug use. So is illicit drug use. So is the illicit drug use. So is the minister illicit drug use. So is the minister saying illicit drug use. So is the minister saying by illicit drug use. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Transport: My question is to the Minister of Transport: What My question is to the Minister of Transport: What recent My question is to the Minister of Transport: What recent announcements Transport: What recent announcements has Transport: What recent announcements has he Transport: What recent announcements has he made Transport: What recent announcements has he made regarding Transport: What recent announcements has he made regarding regional Transport: What recent announcements has he made regarding regional rail? The The Hon The Hon Phil The Hon Phil Twyford. The Hon Phil Twyford. On The Hon Phil Twyford. On Tuesday The Hon Phil Twyford. On Tuesday along The Hon Phil Twyford. On Tuesday along with The Hon Phil Twyford. On Tuesday along with the The Hon Phil Twyford. On Tuesday along with the Deputy The Hon Phil Twyford. On Tuesday along with the Deputy PM The Hon Phil Twyford. On Tuesday along with the Deputy PM the The Hon Phil Twyford. On Tuesday along with the Deputy PM the Rt The Hon Phil Twyford. On Tuesday along with the Deputy PM the Rt Hon along with the Deputy PM the Rt Hon Winston along with the Deputy PM the Rt Hon Winston Peters along with the Deputy PM the Rt Hon Winston Peters and along with the Deputy PM the Rt Hon Winston Peters and the along with the Deputy PM the Rt Hon Winston Peters and the Acting Winston Peters and the Acting Transport Winston Peters and the Acting Transport Minister, Winston Peters and the Acting Transport Minister, I Winston Peters and the Acting Transport Minister, I announced Winston Peters and the Acting Transport Minister, I announced $35 Transport Minister, I announced $35 million Transport Minister, I announced $35 million for Transport Minister, I announced $35 million for KiwiRail Transport Minister, I announced $35 million for KiwiRail to Transport Minister, I announced $35 million for KiwiRail to reverse Transport Minister, I announced $35 million for KiwiRail to reverse the million for KiwiRail to reverse the decision million for KiwiRail to reverse the decision to million for KiwiRail to reverse the decision to decommission million for KiwiRail to reverse the decision to decommission the decision to decommission the electric decision to decommission the electric locomotives decision to decommission the electric locomotives running decision to decommission the electric locomotives running on decision to decommission the electric locomotives running on the electric locomotives running on the Palmerston electric locomotives running on the Palmerston North electric locomotives running on the Palmerston North to electric locomotives running on the Palmerston North to Hamilton electric locomotives running on the Palmerston North to Hamilton section Palmerston North to Hamilton section of Palmerston North to Hamilton section of the main trunk Palmerston North to Hamilton section of the main trunk line. Palmerston North to Hamilton section of the main trunk line. This Palmerston North to Hamilton section of the main trunk line. This follows of the main trunk line. This follows the of the main trunk line. This follows the announcement of the main trunk line. This follows the announcement of of the main trunk line. This follows the announcement of the of the main trunk line. This follows the announcement of the upgrade of the main trunk line. This follows the announcement of the upgrade of of the main trunk line. This follows the announcement of the upgrade of a the announcement of the upgrade of a line, the announcement of the upgrade of a line, the the announcement of the upgrade of a line, the reopening the announcement of the upgrade of a line, the reopening of the announcement of the upgrade of a line, the reopening of the the announcement of the upgrade of a line, the reopening of the Napier line, the reopening of the Napier line line, the reopening of the Napier line and line, the reopening of the Napier line and the line, the reopening of the Napier line and the start line, the reopening of the Napier line and the start of line, the reopening of the Napier line and the start of geo-technical line and the start of geo-technical investigation line and the start of geo-technical investigation for line and the start of geo-technical investigation for the line and the start of geo-technical investigation for the Marsden line and the start of geo-technical investigation for the Marsden Point investigation for the Marsden Point Spur. investigation for the Marsden Point Spur. 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What impact will these projects have What impact will these projects have on What impact will these projects have on regional What impact will these projects have on regional New What impact will these projects have on regional New Zealand? on regional New Zealand? Investing on regional New Zealand? Investing in on regional New Zealand? Investing in the on regional New Zealand? Investing in the rail on regional New Zealand? Investing in the rail network on regional New Zealand? 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Our Government believes that rail can be the believes that rail can be the backbone believes that rail can be the backbone of believes that rail can be the backbone of a believes that rail can be the backbone of a sustainable believes that rail can be the backbone of a sustainable 21st backbone of a sustainable 21st Century backbone of a sustainable 21st Century transport backbone of a sustainable 21st Century transport system. backbone of a sustainable 21st Century transport system. Our backbone of a sustainable 21st Century transport system. Our aim backbone of a sustainable 21st Century transport system. Our aim is Century transport system. Our aim is to Century transport system. Our aim is to accelerate Century transport system. Our aim is to accelerate the Century transport system. Our aim is to accelerate the transition Century transport system. Our aim is to accelerate the transition to to accelerate the transition to non-fossil to accelerate the transition to non-fossil fuels to accelerate the transition to non-fossil fuels and to accelerate the transition to non-fossil fuels and moving to accelerate the transition to non-fossil fuels and moving to non-fossil fuels and moving to diesel non-fossil fuels and moving to diesel alone non-fossil fuels and moving to diesel alone would non-fossil fuels and moving to diesel alone would have non-fossil fuels and moving to diesel alone would have been non-fossil fuels and moving to diesel alone would have been a diesel alone would have been a backward diesel alone would have been a backward step. backward step. Order! backward step. Order! Can backward step. Order! Can I backward step. Order! Can I just backward step. Order! Can I just ask backward step. Order! Can I just ask members backward step. Order! Can I just ask members - backward step. Order! 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Rail and Maritime Transport Union General Maritime Transport Union General Secretary Maritime Transport Union General Secretary Wayne Maritime Transport Union General Secretary Wayne Butson Maritime Transport Union General Secretary Wayne Butson said Secretary Wayne Butson said investment Secretary Wayne Butson said investment from Secretary Wayne Butson said investment from the Secretary Wayne Butson said investment from the Government Secretary Wayne Butson said investment from the Government will investment from the Government will be investment from the Government will be a investment from the Government will be a boon investment from the Government will be a boon for investment from the Government will be a boon for regions. investment from the Government will be a boon for regions. These investment from the Government will be a boon for regions. These regions be a boon for regions. These regions have be a boon for regions. These regions have highly be a boon for regions. These regions have highly skilled be a boon for regions. These regions have highly skilled rail be a boon for regions. These regions have highly skilled rail workers be a boon for regions. These regions have highly skilled rail workers on have highly skilled rail workers on good have highly skilled rail workers on good pay have highly skilled rail workers on good pay and have highly skilled rail workers on good pay and conditions have highly skilled rail workers on good pay and conditions putting good pay and conditions putting money good pay and conditions putting money back good pay and conditions putting money back into good pay and conditions putting money back into the good pay and conditions putting money back into the local good pay and conditions putting money back into the local economy. money back into the local economy. When money back into the local economy. When I money back into the local economy. When I was money back into the local economy. 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Which ministers Mr Speaker, changes have not been made. Which ministers has Mr Speaker, changes have not been made. Which ministers has he Mr Speaker, changes have not been made. Which ministers has he had made. Which ministers has he had discussions made. Which ministers has he had discussions with made. Which ministers has he had discussions with in made. Which ministers has he had discussions with in regard made. Which ministers has he had discussions with in regard to discussions with in regard to changes discussions with in regard to changes of discussions with in regard to changes of the discussions with in regard to changes of the Employment discussions with in regard to changes of the Employment Relations changes of the Employment Relations Amendment changes of the Employment Relations Amendment Bill? changes of the Employment Relations Amendment Bill? Many changes of the Employment Relations Amendment Bill? Many of changes of the Employment Relations Amendment Bill? Many of them. Amendment Bill? Many of them. Have Amendment Bill? Many of them. Have any Amendment Bill? Many of them. Have any members Amendment Bill? Many of them. Have any members of Amendment Bill? Many of them. Have any members of New Amendment Bill? Many of them. Have any members of New Zealand Have any members of New Zealand First Have any members of New Zealand First discussed Have any members of New Zealand First discussed with Have any members of New Zealand First discussed with him Have any members of New Zealand First discussed with him issues Have any members of New Zealand First discussed with him issues they First discussed with him issues they have First discussed with him issues they have with First discussed with him issues they have with the First discussed with him issues they have with the bill First discussed with him issues they have with the bill as First discussed with him issues they have with the bill as reported First discussed with him issues they have with the bill as reported back have with the bill as reported back from have with the bill as reported back from select have with the bill as reported back from select committee? have with the bill as reported back from select committee? Mr have with the bill as reported back from select committee? Mr Speaker, from select committee? Mr Speaker, we from select committee? Mr Speaker, we are from select committee? Mr Speaker, we are a from select committee? Mr Speaker, we are a collaborative from select committee? Mr Speaker, we are a collaborative Government we are a collaborative Government made we are a collaborative Government made up we are a collaborative Government made up of we are a collaborative Government made up of three we are a collaborative Government made up of three parties we are a collaborative Government made up of three parties - we are a collaborative Government made up of three parties - of we are a collaborative Government made up of three parties - of course made up of three parties - of course I've made up of three parties - of course I've spoken made up of three parties - of course I've spoken to made up of three parties - of course I've spoken to members made up of three parties - of course I've spoken to members of made up of three parties - of course I've spoken to members of New I've spoken to members of New Zealand I've spoken to members of New Zealand First I've spoken to members of New Zealand First but I've spoken to members of New Zealand First but Labour I've spoken to members of New Zealand First but Labour and I've spoken to members of New Zealand First but Labour and the Zealand First but Labour and the Green Zealand First but Labour and the Green Party, Zealand First but Labour and the Green Party, too. 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Mr Relations Amendment Bill will be? Mr Speaker, Relations Amendment Bill will be? Mr Speaker, because Relations Amendment Bill will be? 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If any decisions need to be made, the decisions need to be made, the public decisions need to be made, the public will decisions need to be made, the public will be decisions need to be made, the public will be made decisions need to be made, the public will be made aware decisions need to be made, the public will be made aware of decisions need to be made, the public will be made aware of that decisions need to be made, the public will be made aware of that at public will be made aware of that at the public will be made aware of that at the time. the time. Isn't the time. Isn't it the time. Isn't it true the time. Isn't it true that the time. Isn't it true that his the time. 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No. his party? No. That's his party? No. That's a his party? No. That's a very his party? No. That's a very silly his party? No. That's a very silly accusation. No. That's a very silly accusation. Is No. That's a very silly accusation. Is the No. That's a very silly accusation. Is the member No. That's a very silly accusation. Is the member finished? 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Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, yes. Mr Speaker, yes. The Mr Speaker, yes. The Hon Mr Speaker, yes. The Hon Iain Mr Speaker, yes. The Hon Iain Lees-Galloway. Lees-Galloway. Why Lees-Galloway. Why did Lees-Galloway. Why did he Lees-Galloway. Why did he argue Lees-Galloway. Why did he argue on Lees-Galloway. Why did he argue on Tuesday Lees-Galloway. Why did he argue on Tuesday that Lees-Galloway. 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Mr increase is needed, nor justified? Mr Speaker, increase is needed, nor justified? Mr Speaker, over increase is needed, nor justified? Mr Speaker, over the increase is needed, nor justified? Mr Speaker, over the past increase is needed, nor justified? Mr Speaker, over the past two increase is needed, nor justified? 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ACC the road involving a motor vehicle has increased. ACC has the road involving a motor vehicle has increased. ACC has paid the road involving a motor vehicle has increased. ACC has paid an has increased. ACC has paid an average has increased. ACC has paid an average of has increased. ACC has paid an average of 30,400 has increased. ACC has paid an average of 30,400 road has increased. ACC has paid an average of 30,400 road accident average of 30,400 road accident claims average of 30,400 road accident claims per average of 30,400 road accident claims per year, average of 30,400 road accident claims per year, 9% average of 30,400 road accident claims per year, 9% higher average of 30,400 road accident claims per year, 9% higher than average of 30,400 road accident claims per year, 9% higher than the claims per year, 9% higher than the last claims per year, 9% higher than the last time claims per year, 9% higher than the last time it claims per year, 9% higher than the last time it considered claims per year, 9% higher than the last time it considered levies claims per year, 9% higher than the last time it considered levies in last time it considered levies in 2016. last time it considered levies in 2016. Some last time it considered levies in 2016. Some of last time it considered levies in 2016. Some of the last time it considered levies in 2016. 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ACC is aware that it currently has more money in it currently has more money in reserves it currently has more money in reserves than it currently has more money in reserves than is it currently has more money in reserves than is needed it currently has more money in reserves than is needed to it currently has more money in reserves than is needed to cover it currently has more money in reserves than is needed to cover the reserves than is needed to cover the cost reserves than is needed to cover the cost of reserves than is needed to cover the cost of motor reserves than is needed to cover the cost of motor vehicle reserves than is needed to cover the cost of motor vehicle injuries reserves than is needed to cover the cost of motor vehicle injuries on cost of motor vehicle injuries on its cost of motor vehicle injuries on its books cost of motor vehicle injuries on its books T cost of motor vehicle injuries on its books T projected cost of motor vehicle injuries on its books T projected solvency its books T projected solvency ratio... its books T projected solvency ratio... 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The projected solvency ratio at the The projected solvency ratio at the start The projected solvency ratio at the start of The projected solvency ratio at the start of the The projected solvency ratio at the start of the 2019/21 The projected solvency ratio at the start of the 2019/21 levy The projected solvency ratio at the start of the 2019/21 levy period, The projected solvency ratio at the start of the 2019/21 levy period, ie start of the 2019/21 levy period, ie 1 start of the 2019/21 levy period, ie 1 July start of the 2019/21 levy period, ie 1 July 2019, start of the 2019/21 levy period, ie 1 July 2019, is start of the 2019/21 levy period, ie 1 July 2019, is 111% start of the 2019/21 levy period, ie 1 July 2019, is 111% and start of the 2019/21 levy period, ie 1 July 2019, is 111% and out start of the 2019/21 levy period, ie 1 July 2019, is 111% and out it 1 July 2019, is 111% and out it needs 1 July 2019, is 111% and out it needs to 1 July 2019, is 111% and out it needs to get 1 July 2019, is 111% and out it needs to get back 1 July 2019, is 111% and out it needs to get back to 1 July 2019, is 111% and out it needs to get back to its 1 July 2019, is 111% and out it needs to get back to its 105% needs to get back to its 105% target. needs to get back to its 105% target. A. needs to get back to its 105% target. A. CC needs to get back to its 105% target. A. CC intends needs to get back to its 105% target. A. CC intends to needs to get back to its 105% target. A. CC intends to do needs to get back to its 105% target. A. CC intends to do this needs to get back to its 105% target. A. CC intends to do this by target. A. CC intends to do this by charging target. A. CC intends to do this by charging less target. A. CC intends to do this by charging less than target. A. CC intends to do this by charging less than what target. A. CC intends to do this by charging less than what it target. A. CC intends to do this by charging less than what it needs target. A. CC intends to do this by charging less than what it needs to charging less than what it needs to cover charging less than what it needs to cover the charging less than what it needs to cover the cost charging less than what it needs to cover the cost of charging less than what it needs to cover the cost of treating charging less than what it needs to cover the cost of treating injuries, cover the cost of treating injuries, the cover the cost of treating injuries, the shortfall cover the cost of treating injuries, the shortfall to cover the cost of treating injuries, the shortfall to be cover the cost of treating injuries, the shortfall to be paid cover the cost of treating injuries, the shortfall to be paid by cover the cost of treating injuries, the shortfall to be paid by the the shortfall to be paid by the surplus the shortfall to be paid by the surplus it the shortfall to be paid by the surplus it has the shortfall to be paid by the surplus it has saved. surplus it has saved. Why surplus it has saved. Why does surplus it has saved. Why does the surplus it has saved. Why does the minister surplus it has saved. Why does the minister assert surplus it has saved. Why does the minister assert that surplus it has saved. Why does the minister assert that a Why does the minister assert that a quote Why does the minister assert that a quote "exploding Why does the minister assert that a quote "exploding road Why does the minister assert that a quote "exploding road toll" Why does the minister assert that a quote "exploding road toll" is quote "exploding road toll" is behind quote "exploding road toll" is behind ACC's quote "exploding road toll" is behind ACC's proposed quote "exploding road toll" is behind ACC's proposed increase quote "exploding road toll" is behind ACC's proposed increase in behind ACC's proposed increase in the behind ACC's proposed increase in the motor behind ACC's proposed increase in the motor vehicle behind ACC's proposed increase in the motor vehicle levy, behind ACC's proposed increase in the motor vehicle levy, when behind ACC's proposed increase in the motor vehicle levy, when the the motor vehicle levy, when the average the motor vehicle levy, when the average road the motor vehicle levy, when the average road toll the motor vehicle levy, when the average road toll under the motor vehicle levy, when the average road toll under the the motor vehicle levy, when the average road toll under the previous average road toll under the previous National average road toll under the previous National Government average road toll under the previous National Government was average road toll under the previous National Government was 305 average road toll under the previous National Government was 305 deaths National Government was 305 deaths per National Government was 305 deaths per annum, National Government was 305 deaths per annum, significantly National Government was 305 deaths per annum, significantly lower National Government was 305 deaths per annum, significantly lower than per annum, significantly lower than the per annum, significantly lower than the average per annum, significantly lower than the average road per annum, significantly lower than the average road toll per annum, significantly lower than the average road toll of per annum, significantly lower than the average road toll of 416 per annum, significantly lower than the average road toll of 416 road the average road toll of 416 road deaths the average road toll of 416 road deaths per the average road toll of 416 road deaths per annum the average road toll of 416 road deaths per annum during the average road toll of 416 road deaths per annum during the the average road toll of 416 road deaths per annum during the nine deaths per annum during the nine the deaths per annum during the nine years of the deaths per annum during the nine years of the Clark deaths per annum during the nine years of the Clark Labour years of the Clark Labour Government? Government? Because Government? Because despite Government? Because despite the Government? Because despite the road Government? Because despite the road toll Because despite the road toll falling Because despite the road toll falling consistently Because despite the road toll falling consistently for Because despite the road toll falling consistently for a Because despite the road toll falling consistently for a couple Because despite the road toll falling consistently for a couple of falling consistently for a couple of decades falling consistently for a couple of decades over falling consistently for a couple of decades over the falling consistently for a couple of decades over the last falling consistently for a couple of decades over the last five falling consistently for a couple of decades over the last five years, falling consistently for a couple of decades over the last five years, it decades over the last five years, it has decades over the last five years, it has gone decades over the last five years, it has gone up decades over the last five years, it has gone up steeply. has gone up steeply. Has has gone up steeply. Has he has gone up steeply. Has he questioned has gone up steeply. Has he questioned ACC has gone up steeply. Has he questioned ACC officials Has he questioned ACC officials about Has he questioned ACC officials about their Has he questioned ACC officials about their decision Has he questioned ACC officials about their decision only Has he questioned ACC officials about their decision only to Has he questioned ACC officials about their decision only to propose about their decision only to propose an about their decision only to propose an increase about their decision only to propose an increase in about their decision only to propose an increase in motor about their decision only to propose an increase in motor vehicle about their decision only to propose an increase in motor vehicle levies, an increase in motor vehicle levies, in an increase in motor vehicle levies, in its an increase in motor vehicle levies, in its decision an increase in motor vehicle levies, in its decision document an increase in motor vehicle levies, in its decision document and an increase in motor vehicle levies, in its decision document and not an increase in motor vehicle levies, in its decision document and not a in its decision document and not a decrease, in its decision document and not a decrease, despite in its decision document and not a decrease, despite the in its decision document and not a decrease, despite the ratio in its decision document and not a decrease, despite the ratio being in its decision document and not a decrease, despite the ratio being so decrease, despite the ratio being so high decrease, despite the ratio being so high in decrease, despite the ratio being so high in favour decrease, despite the ratio being so high in favour of decrease, despite the ratio being so high in favour of assets? high in favour of assets? Mr high in favour of assets? Mr Speaker, high in favour of assets? Mr Speaker, ACC high in favour of assets? Mr Speaker, ACC is high in favour of assets? Mr Speaker, ACC is - high in favour of assets? Mr Speaker, ACC is - under Mr Speaker, ACC is - under legislation, Mr Speaker, ACC is - under legislation, ACC Mr Speaker, ACC is - under legislation, ACC is Mr Speaker, ACC is - under legislation, ACC is required Mr Speaker, ACC is - under legislation, ACC is required to legislation, ACC is required to return legislation, ACC is required to return its legislation, ACC is required to return its ratio legislation, ACC is required to return its ratio to legislation, ACC is required to return its ratio to 105% legislation, ACC is required to return its ratio to 105% over legislation, ACC is required to return its ratio to 105% over a return its ratio to 105% over a 10-year return its ratio to 105% over a 10-year horizon. return its ratio to 105% over a 10-year horizon. In return its ratio to 105% over a 10-year horizon. In its return its ratio to 105% over a 10-year horizon. In its consultation 10-year horizon. In its consultation documents 10-year horizon. In its consultation documents it 10-year horizon. In its consultation documents it indicated 10-year horizon. In its consultation documents it indicated these documents it indicated these proposals documents it indicated these proposals are documents it indicated these proposals are what documents it indicated these proposals are what it documents it indicated these proposals are what it thinks documents it indicated these proposals are what it thinks it proposals are what it thinks it needs proposals are what it thinks it needs to proposals are what it thinks it needs to give proposals are what it thinks it needs to give effect proposals are what it thinks it needs to give effect to proposals are what it thinks it needs to give effect to that proposals are what it thinks it needs to give effect to that funding needs to give effect to that funding policy needs to give effect to that funding policy statement, needs to give effect to that funding policy statement, one needs to give effect to that funding policy statement, one gazetted needs to give effect to that funding policy statement, one gazetted by policy statement, one gazetted by the policy statement, one gazetted by the Hon policy statement, one gazetted by the Hon Nikki policy statement, one gazetted by the Hon Nikki Kaye. policy statement, one gazetted by the Hon Nikki Kaye. Is policy statement, one gazetted by the Hon Nikki Kaye. Is he policy statement, one gazetted by the Hon Nikki Kaye. Is he concerned the Hon Nikki Kaye. Is he concerned the the Hon Nikki Kaye. Is he concerned the pro-proposed the Hon Nikki Kaye. Is he concerned the pro-proposed increase the Hon Nikki Kaye. Is he concerned the pro-proposed increase of the Hon Nikki Kaye. Is he concerned the pro-proposed increase of 1.9 the pro-proposed increase of 1.9 cents the pro-proposed increase of 1.9 cents per the pro-proposed increase of 1.9 cents per litre the pro-proposed increase of 1.9 cents per litre in the pro-proposed increase of 1.9 cents per litre in the the pro-proposed increase of 1.9 cents per litre in the motor the pro-proposed increase of 1.9 cents per litre in the motor vehicle cents per litre in the motor vehicle levy cents per litre in the motor vehicle levy will cents per litre in the motor vehicle levy will add cents per litre in the motor vehicle levy will add to cents per litre in the motor vehicle levy will add to the cents per litre in the motor vehicle levy will add to the methamphetamine levy will add to the methamphetamine petrol levy will add to the methamphetamine petrol black levy will add to the methamphetamine petrol black market, levy will add to the methamphetamine petrol black market, as levy will add to the methamphetamine petrol black market, as reported levy will add to the methamphetamine petrol black market, as reported by petrol black market, as reported by News petrol black market, as reported by News Hub. petrol black market, as reported by News Hub. 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If the ratio is in such a healthy position, will Extraordinary. If the ratio is in such a healthy position, will he such a healthy position, will he recommend such a healthy position, will he recommend to such a healthy position, will he recommend to Cabinet such a healthy position, will he recommend to Cabinet that such a healthy position, will he recommend to Cabinet that ACC recommend to Cabinet that ACC decreases recommend to Cabinet that ACC decreases the recommend to Cabinet that ACC decreases the motor recommend to Cabinet that ACC decreases the motor vehicle recommend to Cabinet that ACC decreases the motor vehicle levy recommend to Cabinet that ACC decreases the motor vehicle levy to decreases the motor vehicle levy to provide decreases the motor vehicle levy to provide New decreases the motor vehicle levy to provide New Zealanders decreases the motor vehicle levy to provide New Zealanders with decreases the motor vehicle levy to provide New Zealanders with some provide New Zealanders with some much-needed provide New Zealanders with some much-needed respite provide New Zealanders with some much-needed respite from provide New Zealanders with some much-needed respite from the much-needed respite from the sky-rocketing much-needed respite from the sky-rocketing petrol much-needed respite from the sky-rocketing petrol prices much-needed respite from the sky-rocketing petrol prices that sky-rocketing petrol prices that have sky-rocketing petrol prices that have occurred sky-rocketing petrol prices that have occurred under sky-rocketing petrol prices that have occurred under this sky-rocketing petrol prices that have occurred under this Labour-led have occurred under this Labour-led government? government? Mr government? Mr Speaker,ly government? Mr Speaker,ly make government? Mr Speaker,ly make a government? Mr Speaker,ly make a recommendation Mr Speaker,ly make a recommendation that Mr Speaker,ly make a recommendation that I Mr Speaker,ly make a recommendation that I think Mr Speaker,ly make a recommendation that I think is Mr Speaker,ly make a recommendation that I think is responsible Mr Speaker,ly make a recommendation that I think is responsible for Mr Speaker,ly make a recommendation that I think is responsible for the that I think is responsible for the long-terrible that I think is responsible for the long-terrible viability that I think is responsible for the long-terrible viability of that I think is responsible for the long-terrible viability of ACC that I think is responsible for the long-terrible viability of ACC and long-terrible viability of ACC and is long-terrible viability of ACC and is responsible long-terrible viability of ACC and is responsible from long-terrible viability of ACC and is responsible from the long-terrible viability of ACC and is responsible from the point long-terrible viability of ACC and is responsible from the point of is responsible from the point of view is responsible from the point of view of is responsible from the point of view of the is responsible from the point of view of the living is responsible from the point of view of the living costs is responsible from the point of view of the living costs that view of the living costs that ordinary view of the living costs that ordinary New view of the living costs that ordinary New Zealanders view of the living costs that ordinary New Zealanders face. view of the living costs that ordinary New Zealanders face. I ordinary New Zealanders face. I would ordinary New Zealanders face. I would point ordinary New Zealanders face. I would point out ordinary New Zealanders face. I would point out that ordinary New Zealanders face. I would point out that the ordinary New Zealanders face. I would point out that the motor would point out that the motor vehicle would point out that the motor vehicle levy would point out that the motor vehicle levy is would point out that the motor vehicle levy is considerably would point out that the motor vehicle levy is considerably lower vehicle levy is considerably lower today vehicle levy is considerably lower today than vehicle levy is considerably lower today than for vehicle levy is considerably lower today than for a vehicle levy is considerably lower today than for a large vehicle levy is considerably lower today than for a large chubing vehicle levy is considerably lower today than for a large chubing of today than for a large chubing of time today than for a large chubing of time that today than for a large chubing of time that National today than for a large chubing of time that National was today than for a large chubing of time that National was in