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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. A A point A point of A point of order, A point of order, Aupito A point of order, Aupito William A point of order, Aupito William Sio. A A point A point of A point of order, A point of order, Aupito A point of order, Aupito William A point of order, Aupito William Sio. Sio. Point Sio. Point of Sio. Point of order. Point of order. I Point of order. I seek Point of order. I seek leave Point of order. I seek leave to Point of order. I seek leave to move Point of order. I seek leave to move a Point of order. I seek leave to move a motion I seek leave to move a motion without I seek leave to move a motion without notice I seek leave to move a motion without notice and I seek leave to move a motion without notice and without I seek leave to move a motion without notice and without debate without notice and without debate to without notice and without debate to commemorate without notice and without debate to commemorate the without notice and without debate to commemorate the 100th without notice and without debate to commemorate the 100th anniversary to commemorate the 100th anniversary of to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the start to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the start of to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the start of the to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the start of the influenza of the start of the influenza epidemic of the start of the influenza epidemic in of the start of the influenza epidemic in Samoa. epidemic in Samoa. Is epidemic in Samoa. Is there epidemic in Samoa. Is there any epidemic in Samoa. Is there any objection epidemic in Samoa. Is there any objection to epidemic in Samoa. Is there any objection to that Is there any objection to that course Is there any objection to that course of Is there any objection to that course of action Is there any objection to that course of action being Is there any objection to that course of action being followed? course of action being followed? There course of action being followed? There is course of action being followed? There is none. There is none. I There is none. I move There is none. I move that There is none. I move that this There is none. I move that this House There is none. I move that this House acknowledge I move that this House acknowledge that I move that this House acknowledge that today I move that this House acknowledge that today marks I move that this House acknowledge that today marks the I move that this House acknowledge that today marks the 100th that today marks the 100th anniversary that today marks the 100th anniversary of that today marks the 100th anniversary of the that today marks the 100th anniversary of the New that today marks the 100th anniversary of the New Zealand that today marks the 100th anniversary of the New Zealand ship anniversary of the New Zealand ship Talune anniversary of the New Zealand ship Talune arriving anniversary of the New Zealand ship Talune arriving in anniversary of the New Zealand ship Talune arriving in Apia Talune arriving in Apia from Talune arriving in Apia from Auckland Talune arriving in Apia from Auckland carrying Talune arriving in Apia from Auckland carrying foreign from Auckland carrying foreign passengers from Auckland carrying foreign passengers with from Auckland carrying foreign passengers with influenza from Auckland carrying foreign passengers with influenza that passengers with influenza that subsequently passengers with influenza that subsequently infected subsequently infected approximately subsequently infected approximately 8,500 subsequently infected approximately 8,500 people, approximately 8,500 people, more approximately 8,500 people, more than approximately 8,500 people, more than 22% approximately 8,500 people, more than 22% of approximately 8,500 people, more than 22% of Samoa's approximately 8,500 people, more than 22% of Samoa's population, more than 22% of Samoa's population, which more than 22% of Samoa's population, which is more than 22% of Samoa's population, which is one more than 22% of Samoa's population, which is one of more than 22% of Samoa's population, which is one of the more than 22% of Samoa's population, which is one of the most more than 22% of Samoa's population, which is one of the most disastrous which is one of the most disastrous epidemics which is one of the most disastrous epidemics recorded which is one of the most disastrous epidemics recorded anywhere epidemics recorded anywhere in epidemics recorded anywhere in the epidemics recorded anywhere in the world epidemics recorded anywhere in the world in epidemics recorded anywhere in the world in proportion in the world in proportion of in the world in proportion of deaths in the world in proportion of deaths to in the world in proportion of deaths to population. of deaths to population. The of deaths to population. The Question of deaths to population. The Question is, of deaths to population. The Question is, That of deaths to population. The Question is, That the of deaths to population. The Question is, That the motion The Question is, That the motion be The Question is, That the motion be agreed The Question is, That the motion be agreed to. be agreed to. Those be agreed to. Those of be agreed to. Those of that be agreed to. Those of that opinion be agreed to. Those of that opinion will be agreed to. Those of that opinion will say be agreed to. Those of that opinion will say Aye, Those of that opinion will say Aye, to Those of that opinion will say Aye, to the Those of that opinion will say Aye, to the contrary, Those of that opinion will say Aye, to the contrary, No. to the contrary, No. The to the contrary, No. The Ayes to the contrary, No. The Ayes have to the contrary, No. The Ayes have it. 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Such attacks are known to address it in his time as Speaker. Such attacks are known to have Such attacks are known to have occurred Such attacks are known to have occurred in Such attacks are known to have occurred in overseas Such attacks are known to have occurred in overseas parliaments. occurred in overseas parliaments. Whether occurred in overseas parliaments. Whether they occurred in overseas parliaments. Whether they seek occurred in overseas parliaments. Whether they seek to occurred in overseas parliaments. Whether they seek to disrupt occurred in overseas parliaments. 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Before undertaking further steps to secure parliament further steps to secure parliament further steps to secure parliament further steps to secure parliament against cyberattacks, further steps to secure parliament against cyberattacks, I further steps to secure parliament against cyberattacks, I believe further steps to secure parliament against cyberattacks, I believe that against cyberattacks, I believe that we against cyberattacks, I believe that we need against cyberattacks, I believe that we need to against cyberattacks, I believe that we need to assure against cyberattacks, I believe that we need to assure ourselves against cyberattacks, I believe that we need to assure ourselves that we need to assure ourselves that such we need to assure ourselves that such security we need to assure ourselves that such security measures we need to assure ourselves that such security measures will we need to assure ourselves that such security measures will not such security measures will not obstruct such security measures will not obstruct members such security measures will not obstruct members and such security measures will not obstruct members and officers such security measures will not obstruct members and officers of such security measures will not obstruct members and officers of the obstruct members and officers of the House obstruct members and officers of the House in obstruct members and officers of the House in the obstruct members and officers of the House in the discharge obstruct members and officers of the House in the discharge of obstruct members and officers of the House in the discharge of their House in the discharge of their duties. 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Consequently, I have determined that a general I have determined that a general question I have determined that a general question of I have determined that a general question of privilege I have determined that a general question of privilege arises. I have determined that a general question of privilege arises. The question of privilege arises. The question of privilege arises. The question of privilege arises. The question stands question of privilege arises. The question stands referred question of privilege arises. The question stands referred to question of privilege arises. The question stands referred to the question stands referred to the Privileges question stands referred to the Privileges Committee. question stands referred to the Privileges Committee. Now question stands referred to the Privileges Committee. Now I question stands referred to the Privileges Committee. Now I come question stands referred to the Privileges Committee. Now I come to Privileges Committee. Now I come to general Privileges Committee. Now I come to general business. Privileges Committee. Now I come to general business. No Privileges Committee. Now I come to general business. No petitions Privileges Committee. Now I come to general business. No petitions or general business. No petitions or select general business. No petitions or select committee general business. No petitions or select committee reports general business. No petitions or select committee reports have select committee reports have been select committee reports have select committee reports have been presented. No select committee reports have been presented. No bills select committee reports have been presented. No bills have select committee reports have been presented. No bills have been presented. No bills have been presented. No bills have been presented. presented. No presented. No bills presented. No bills have presented. No bills have been presented. No bills have been introduced. Ministers Ministers have Ministers have delivered Ministers have delivered papers. Ministers have delivered papers. Museum Ministers have delivered papers. Museum of Ministers have delivered papers. Museum of New Ministers have delivered papers. Museum of New Zealand Ministers have delivered papers. Museum of New Zealand Te Ministers have delivered papers. Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Ministers have delivered papers. Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tonga Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tonga wa Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tonga wa - Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tonga wa - Annual Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tonga wa - Annual Report Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tonga wa - Annual Report 2018, wa - Annual Report 2018, Statement wa - Annual Report 2018, Statement of wa - Annual Report 2018, Statement of Performance Statement of Performance Expectations Statement of Performance Expectations 2018/19. Expectations 2018/19. Walking Expectations 2018/19. Walking Access Expectations 2018/19. Walking Access Commission Expectations 2018/19. Walking Access Commission - Walking Access Commission - Statement Walking Access Commission - Statement of Walking Access Commission - Statement of Performance Statement of Performance Expectations Statement of Performance Expectations 2018/19, Expectations 2018/19, Statement Expectations 2018/19, Statement of Expectations 2018/19, Statement of Intent Expectations 2018/19, Statement of Intent 2018/22. Statement of Intent 2018/22. Those Statement of Intent 2018/22. Those papers Statement of Intent 2018/22. Those papers are Statement of Intent 2018/22. Those papers are published Statement of Intent 2018/22. Those papers are published under Those papers are published under the Those papers are published under the authority Those papers are published under the authority of Those papers are published under the authority of the Those papers are published under the authority of the House. The The House The House comes The House comes to The House comes to oral The House comes to oral questions. The House comes to oral questions. Question The House comes to oral questions. Question No.1 The House comes to oral questions. Question No.1 is The House comes to oral questions. Question No.1 is in The House comes to oral questions. Question No.1 is in the The House comes to oral questions. Question No.1 is in the name The House comes to oral questions. Question No.1 is in the name of The House comes to oral questions. Question No.1 is in the name of Mark Question No.1 is in the name of Mark Patterson. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Regional My question is to the Minister for Regional Economic My question is to the Minister for Regional Economic Development: My question is to the Minister for Regional Economic Development: What Regional Economic Development: What recent Regional Economic Development: What recent announcements Regional Economic Development: What recent announcements have Regional Economic Development: What recent announcements have been Regional Economic Development: What recent announcements have been made recent announcements have been made regarding recent announcements have been made regarding Provincial recent announcements have been made regarding Provincial Growth recent announcements have been made regarding Provincial Growth Fund regarding Provincial Growth Fund support regarding Provincial Growth Fund support to regarding Provincial Growth Fund support to economic regarding Provincial Growth Fund support to economic development support to economic development agencies? On On behalf On behalf of On behalf of the On behalf of the minister, On behalf of the minister, I On behalf of the minister, I would On behalf of the minister, I would like On behalf of the minister, I would like to On behalf of the minister, I would like to take On behalf of the minister, I would like to take this On behalf of the minister, I would like to take this opportunity On behalf of the minister, I would like to take this opportunity to like to take this opportunity to address... like to take this opportunity to address... <INTERRUPTION> address... <INTERRUPTION> address... <INTERRUPTION> ..the address... <INTERRUPTION> ..the lack address... <INTERRUPTION> ..the lack of address... <INTERRUPTION> ..the lack of acknowledgement address... <INTERRUPTION> ..the lack of acknowledgement of address... <INTERRUPTION> ..the lack of acknowledgement of the ..the lack of acknowledgement of the hard ..the lack of acknowledgement of the hard work ..the lack of acknowledgement of the hard work of ..the lack of acknowledgement of the hard work of the ..the lack of acknowledgement of the hard work of the undersecretary ..the lack of acknowledgement of the hard work of the undersecretary in hard work of the undersecretary in his hard work of the undersecretary in his efforts hard work of the undersecretary in his efforts around hard work of the undersecretary in his efforts around economic his efforts around economic development his efforts around economic development agencies. his efforts around economic development agencies. 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under secretary was able to recently talk about the - talk under secretary was able to recently talk about the - talk to under secretary was able to recently talk about the - talk to the talk about the - talk to the economic talk about the - talk to the economic development talk about the - talk to the economic development New talk about the - talk to the economic development New Zealand talk about the - talk to the economic development New Zealand and economic development New Zealand and make economic development New Zealand and make the economic development New Zealand and make the announcement economic development New Zealand and make the announcement that economic development New Zealand and make the announcement that we economic development New Zealand and make the announcement that we are make the announcement that we are able make the announcement that we are able to make the announcement that we are able to provide make the announcement that we are able to provide critical make the announcement that we are able to provide critical support able to provide critical support through able to provide critical support through the able to provide critical support through the Provincial able to provide critical support through the Provincial Growth able to provide critical support through the Provincial Growth Fund through the Provincial Growth Fund through the Provincial Growth Fund through the Provincial Growth Fund and we through the Provincial Growth Fund and we have through the Provincial Growth Fund and we have done through the Provincial Growth Fund and we have done that through the Provincial Growth Fund and we have done that in through the Provincial Growth Fund and we have done that in the through the Provincial Growth Fund and we have done that in the way through the Provincial Growth Fund and we have done that in the way of and we have done that in the way of a and we have done that in the way of a $985,000 and we have done that in the way of a $985,000 contribution and we have done that in the way of a $985,000 contribution over and we have done that in the way of a $985,000 contribution over three a $985,000 contribution over three years a $985,000 contribution over three years which a $985,000 contribution over three years which will a $985,000 contribution over three years which will ensure a $985,000 contribution over three years which will ensure that a $985,000 contribution over three years which will ensure that they years which will ensure that they years which will ensure that they years which will ensure that they are able years which will ensure that they are able to years which will ensure that they are able to produce years which will ensure that they are able to produce comprehensive, are able to produce comprehensive, professional are able to produce comprehensive, professional development are able to produce comprehensive, professional development programmes professional development programmes and professional development programmes and a professional development programmes and a suite professional development programmes and a suite of professional development programmes and a suite of best-practice and a suite of best-practice resources and a suite of best-practice resources for and a suite of best-practice resources for the and a suite of best-practice resources for the EDAs. resources for the EDAs. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! The <INTERRUPTION> Order! The member <INTERRUPTION> Order! The member will <INTERRUPTION> Order! The member will resume <INTERRUPTION> Order! The member will resume his Order! The member will resume his seat. Order! The member will resume his seat. The Order! The member will resume his seat. The under Order! The member will resume his seat. The under secretary Order! The member will resume his seat. The under secretary will seat. The under secretary will stand, seat. The under secretary will stand, withdraw seat. The under secretary will stand, withdraw and seat. The under secretary will stand, withdraw and apologise seat. The under secretary will stand, withdraw and apologise for stand, withdraw and apologise for its stand, withdraw and apologise for its last stand, withdraw and apologise for its last comment. stand, withdraw and apologise for its last comment. I stand, withdraw and apologise for its last comment. I withdraw stand, withdraw and apologise for its last comment. 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We programmes to help build EDA staff skill sets. We have programmes to help build EDA staff skill sets. We have seen programmes to help build EDA staff skill sets. We have seen firsthand skill sets. We have seen firsthand skill sets. We have seen firsthand skill sets. We have seen firsthand how if skill sets. We have seen firsthand how if we skill sets. We have seen firsthand how if we have skill sets. We have seen firsthand how if we have the skill sets. We have seen firsthand how if we have the right skill sets. We have seen firsthand how if we have the right people skill sets. We have seen firsthand how if we have the right people in how if we have the right people in the how if we have the right people in sorry, how if we have the right people in the right place how if we have the right people in the right place at how if we have the right people in the right place at the how if we have the right people in the right place at the right how if we have the right people in the right place at the right time the right place at the right time those the right place at the right time those people the right place at the right time those people on the right place at the right time those people on the the right place at the right time those people on the ground the right place at the right time those people on the ground can the right place at the right time those people on the ground can make those people on the ground can make a those people on the ground can make a huge those people on the ground can make a huge difference those people on the ground can make a huge difference and those people on the ground can make a huge difference and this a huge difference and this Government a huge difference and this Government wants a huge difference and this Government wants to a huge difference and this Government wants to make a huge difference and this Government wants to make sure a huge difference and this Government wants to make sure that Government wants to make sure that all Government wants to make sure that all of Government wants to make sure that all of our Government wants to make sure that all of our EDAs Government wants to make sure that all of our EDAs are Government wants to make sure that all of our EDAs are fully Government wants to make sure that all of our EDAs are fully equipped all of our EDAs are fully equipped to all of our EDAs are fully equipped to succeed all of our EDAs are fully equipped to succeed in all of our EDAs are fully equipped to succeed in this all of our EDAs are fully equipped to succeed in this way. all of our EDAs are fully equipped to succeed in this way. What all of our EDAs are fully equipped to succeed in this way. What role to succeed in this way. What role could to succeed in this way. What role could economic to succeed in this way. What role could economic development to succeed in this way. What role could economic development agencies could economic development agencies play could economic development agencies play in could economic development agencies play in the could economic development agencies play in the Government's could economic development agencies play in the Government's regional play in the Government's regional development play in the Government's regional play play in the Government's regional development strategy? This's play in the Government's regional development strategy? This's a play in the Government's regional development strategy? This's a good development strategy? This's a good question? development strategy? 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On On behalf On behalf of On behalf of the On behalf of the PM, On behalf of the PM, yes, On behalf of the PM, yes, particularly On behalf of the PM, yes, particularly those On behalf of the PM, yes, particularly those actions On behalf of the PM, yes, particularly those actions which particularly those actions which have particularly those actions which have seen particularly those actions which have seen our particularly those actions which have seen our economy particularly those actions which have seen our economy thrive particularly those actions which have seen our economy thrive leading have seen our economy thrive leading have seen our economy thrive leading have seen our economy thrive leading to a have seen our economy thrive leading to a writ have seen our economy thrive leading to a writ of have seen our economy thrive leading to a writ of unemployment have seen our economy thrive leading to a writ of unemployment of have seen our economy thrive leading to a writ of unemployment of 3.9%. to a writ of unemployment of 3.9%. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> The <INTERRUPTION> The lowest <INTERRUPTION> The lowest figure <INTERRUPTION> The lowest figure since <INTERRUPTION> The lowest figure since the The lowest figure since the Labour-New The lowest figure since the Labour-New Zealand The lowest figure since the Labour-New Zealand First The lowest figure since the Labour-New Zealand First confidence Labour-New Zealand First confidence and Labour-New Zealand First confidence and supply Labour-New Zealand First confidence and supply Government Labour-New Zealand First confidence and supply Government a Labour-New Zealand First confidence and supply Government a decade Labour-New Zealand First confidence and supply Government a decade ago. and supply Government a decade ago. Supplementary. and supply Government a decade ago. Supplementary. Will and supply Government a decade ago. Supplementary. Will new and supply Government a decade ago. Supplementary. Will new information Supplementary. Will new information being Supplementary. Will new information being looked Supplementary. Will new information being looked at Supplementary. Will new information being looked at in Supplementary. Will new information being looked at in the Supplementary. Will new information being looked at in the Karel Supplementary. Will new information being looked at in the Karel Sroubek being looked at in the Karel Sroubek case being looked at in the Karel Sroubek case involve being looked at in the Karel Sroubek case involve the being looked at in the Karel Sroubek case involve the burglary being looked at in the Karel Sroubek case involve the burglary of being looked at in the Karel Sroubek case involve the burglary of his case involve the burglary of his stranged case involve the burglary of his stranged -- case involve the burglary of his stranged -- his case involve the burglary of his stranged -- his estranged case involve the burglary of his stranged -- his estranged wife's stranged -- his estranged wife's house stranged -- his estranged wife's house just stranged -- his estranged wife's house just days stranged -- his estranged wife's house just days after stranged -- his estranged wife's house just days after Sroubek stranged -- his estranged wife's house just days after Sroubek learnt house just days after Sroubek learnt it house just days after Sroubek learnt it had house just days after Sroubek learnt it had gone house just days after Sroubek learnt it had gone on house just days after Sroubek learnt it had gone on the house just days after Sroubek learnt it had gone on the market? house just days after Sroubek learnt it had gone on the market? 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I can say that over 150 decisions were can say that over 150 decisions were made can say that over 150 decisions were made by can say that over 150 decisions were made by the can say that over 150 decisions were made by the previous can say that over 150 decisions were made by the previous Government can say that over 150 decisions were made by the previous Government of made by the previous Government of made by the previous Government of made by the previous Government of that any made by the previous Government of that any ture made by the previous Government of that any ture and made by the previous Government of that any ture and after made by the previous Government of that any ture and after 2014 made by the previous Government of that any ture and after 2014 those that any ture and after 2014 those decisions that any ture and after 2014 those decisions were that any ture and after 2014 those decisions were made that any ture and after 2014 those decisions were made by that any ture and after 2014 those decisions were made by not that any ture and after 2014 those decisions were made by not the decisions were made by not the minister decisions were made by not the minister but decisions were made by not the minister but the decisions were made by not the minister but the same decisions were made by not the minister but the same officials decisions were made by not the minister but the same officials that minister but the same officials that advise minister but the same officials that advise Mr minister but the same officials that advise Mr Iain minister but the same officials that advise Mr Iain Lees-Galloway. minister but the same officials that advise Mr Iain Lees-Galloway. Will advise Mr Iain Lees-Galloway. Will the advise Mr Iain Lees-Galloway. Will the investigation advise Mr Iain Lees-Galloway. Will the investigation look advise Mr Iain Lees-Galloway. Will the investigation look at advise Mr Iain Lees-Galloway. Will the investigation look at whether the investigation look at whether police the investigation look at whether police have the investigation look at whether police have questioned the investigation look at whether police have questioned Karel the investigation look at whether police have questioned Karel Sroubek police have questioned Karel Sroubek about police have questioned Karel Sroubek about a police have questioned Karel Sroubek about a break-in police have questioned Karel Sroubek about a break-in at police have questioned Karel Sroubek about a break-in at his police have questioned Karel Sroubek about a break-in at his estranged about a break-in at his estranged wife's about a break-in at his estranged wife's house? about a break-in at his estranged wife's house? Again, about a break-in at his estranged wife's house? Again, all about a break-in at his estranged wife's house? Again, all the wife's house? Again, all the information wife's house? 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Again, all the information that should have been information that should have been information that should have been information that should have been available to information that should have been available to this information that should have been available to this minister, information that should have been available to this minister, and available to this minister, and which available to this minister, and which will available to this minister, and which will be available to this minister, and which will be available available to this minister, and which will be available now, available to this minister, and which will be available now, and which will be available now, and should which will be available now, and should have which will be available now, and should have been which will be available now, and should have been available which will be available now, and should have been available because should have been available because should have been available because should have been available because of the should have been available because of the way should have been available because of the way it should have been available because of the way it was should have been available because of the way it was being should have been available because of the way it was being handled should have been available because of the way it was being handled by of the way it was being handled by certain of the way it was being handled by certain people of the way it was being handled by certain people in of the way it was being handled by certain people in the of the way it was being handled by certain people in the bureaucracy certain people in the bureaucracy and certain people in the bureaucracy and clearly, certain people in the bureaucracy and clearly, maybe certain people in the bureaucracy and clearly, maybe not... and clearly, maybe not... <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> ..and <INTERRUPTION> ..and which <INTERRUPTION> ..and which was <INTERRUPTION> ..and which was the <INTERRUPTION> ..and which was the reason <INTERRUPTION> ..and which was the reason that <INTERRUPTION> ..and which was the reason that 19 ..and which was the reason that 19 September ..and which was the reason that 19 September letter ..and which was the reason that 19 September letter from ..and which was the reason that 19 September letter from the ..and which was the reason that 19 September letter from the Hon ..and which was the reason that 19 September letter from the Hon Iain September letter from the Hon Iain Lees-Galloway September letter from the Hon Iain Lees-Galloway is September letter from the Hon Iain Lees-Galloway is loaded September letter from the Hon Iain Lees-Galloway is loaded with September letter from the Hon Iain Lees-Galloway is loaded with caveats Lees-Galloway is loaded with caveats Lees-Galloway Lees-Galloway is loaded with caveats as to whether Lees-Galloway is loaded with caveats as to whether or Lees-Galloway is loaded with caveats as to whether or not Lees-Galloway is loaded with caveats as to whether or not he Lees-Galloway is loaded with caveats as to whether or not he has Lees-Galloway is loaded with caveats as to whether or not he has told Lees-Galloway is loaded with caveats as to whether or not he has told the as to whether or not he has told the truth. as to whether or not he has told the truth. Supplementary. as to whether or not he has told the truth. Supplementary. Has as to whether or not he has told the truth. Supplementary. Has the as to whether or not he has told the truth. Supplementary. Has the PM truth. Supplementary. Has the PM changed truth. Supplementary. Has the PM changed her truth. Supplementary. Has the PM changed her mind truth. Supplementary. Has the PM changed her mind from truth. Supplementary. Has the PM changed her mind from yesterday truth. Supplementary. Has the PM changed her mind from yesterday when changed her mind from yesterday when she changed her mind from yesterday when she declared changed her mind from yesterday when she declared it changed her mind from yesterday when she declared it wasn't changed her mind from yesterday when she declared it wasn't the changed her mind from yesterday when officials' case changed her mind from yesterday when officials' case and changed her mind from yesterday when officials' case and can changed her mind from yesterday when officials' case and can we changed her mind from yesterday when officials' case and can we take changed her mind from yesterday when officials' case and can we take it officials' case and can we take it from officials' case and can we take it from her officials' case and can we take it from her answers officials' case and can we take it from her answers today officials' case and can we take it from her answers today that officials' case and can we take it from her answers today that she officials' case and can we take it from her answers today that she is from her answers today that she is now from her answers today that she is now blaming from her answers today that she is now blaming them? from her answers today that she is now blaming them? Let from her answers today that she is now blaming them? Let me from her answers today that she is now blaming them? Let me make from her answers today that she is now blaming them? Let me make it now blaming them? Let me make it very now blaming them? Let me make it now now blaming them? Let me make it very clear, the now blaming them? Let me make it very clear, the PM now blaming them? Let me make it very clear, the PM is now blaming them? Let me make it very clear, the PM is not now blaming them? Let me make it very clear, the PM is not one now blaming them? 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Has she been informed about Supplementary. Has she been informed about any Supplementary. Has she been informed about any recent Supplementary. Has she been informed about any recent intimidation Supplementary. Has she been informed about any recent intimidation by about any recent intimidation by about any recent intimidation by about any recent intimidation by Karel Sroubek? about any recent intimidation by Karel Sroubek? The about any recent intimidation by Karel Sroubek? The PM about any recent intimidation by Karel Sroubek? The PM is about any recent intimidation by Karel Sroubek? The PM is relying Karel Sroubek? The PM is relying upon Karel Sroubek? The PM is relying upon the Karel Sroubek? The PM is relying upon the inquiry Karel Sroubek? The PM is relying upon the inquiry that Karel Sroubek? The PM is relying upon the inquiry that has Karel Sroubek? 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Social My question is to the Minister for Social Development: My question is to the Minister for Social Development: What Social Development: What announcements Social Development: What announcements has Social Development: What announcements has she Social Development: What announcements has she recently Social Development: What announcements has she recently made announcements has she recently made regarding announcements has she recently made regarding family announcements has she recently made regarding family violence announcements has she recently made regarding family violence funding? 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These million from Budget 2018 into whanau resilience services. These will resilience services. These will provide resilience services. These will provide long-term resilience services. These will provide long-term support resilience services. These will provide long-term support beyond resilience services. These will provide long-term support beyond our provide long-term support beyond our provide provide long-term support beyond our current crisis support provide long-term support beyond our current crisis support services provide long-term support beyond our current crisis support services for current crisis support services for families current crisis support services for families who current crisis support services for families who have current crisis support services for families who have experienced families who have experienced violence families who have experienced violence and families who have experienced violence and will families who have experienced violence and will be families who have experienced violence and will be developed families who have experienced violence and will be developed in violence and will be developed in partnership violence and will be developed in partnership with violence and will be developed in partnership with communities, violence and will be developed in partnership with communities, whanau partnership with communities, whanau and partnership with communities, whanau and providers. partnership with communities, whanau and providers. This partnership with communities, whanau and providers. This reflects partnership with communities, whanau and providers. This reflects the and providers. This reflects the Ministry and providers. This reflects the Ministry of and providers. This reflects the Ministry of Social and providers. This reflects the Ministry of Social Development's Ministry of Social Development's commitment Ministry of Social Development's commitment to Ministry of Social Development's commitment to co-tacky Ministry of Social Development's commitment to co-tacky tanga, commitment to co-tacky tanga, partnering commitment to co-tacky tanga, partnering for commitment to co-tacky tanga, partnering for greater commitment to co-tacky tanga, partnering for greater impact partnering for greater impact reflecting partnering for greater impact reflecting that partnering for greater impact reflecting that we partnering for greater impact reflecting that we are partnering for greater impact reflecting that we are stronger partnering for greater impact reflecting that we are stronger when reflecting that we are stronger when reflecting that we are stronger when reflecting that we are stronger when we work reflecting that we are stronger when we work together. reflecting that we are stronger when we work together. Why reflecting that we are stronger when we work together. Why do reflecting that we are stronger when we work together. Why do we reflecting that we are stronger when we work together. Why do we need we work together. Why do we need these we work together. Why do we need these new we work together. Why do we need these new whanau we work together. Why do we need these new whanau resilience these new whanau resilience services? these new whanau resilience services? The these new whanau resilience services? The majority these new whanau resilience services? The majority of these new whanau resilience services? The majority of family services? The majority of family violence services? The majority of family services? services? The majority of family violence providers have services? The majority of family violence providers have said services? The majority of family violence providers have said that violence providers have said that because violence providers have said that because most violence providers have said that because most providers violence providers have said that because most providers are violence providers have said that because most providers are funded because most providers are funded for because most providers are funded for short-term because most providers are funded for short-term crisis because most providers are funded for short-term crisis - because most providers are funded for short-term crisis - of because most providers are funded for short-term crisis - of the for short-term crisis - of the short-term for short-term crisis - of the short-term crisis for short-term crisis - of the short-term crisis period, for short-term crisis - of the short-term crisis period, they for short-term crisis - of the short-term crisis period, they do short-term crisis period, they do not short-term crisis period, they do not have short-term crisis period, they do not have the short-term crisis period, they do not have the capacity short-term crisis period, they do not have the capacity to short-term crisis period, they do not have the capacity to work short-term crisis period, they do not have the capacity to work with not have the capacity to work with whanau not have the capacity to work with whanau to not have the capacity to work with whanau to break not have the capacity to work with whanau to break intergenerational whanau to break intergenerational cycles whanau to break intergenerational cycles of whanau to break intergenerational cycles of violence. whanau to break intergenerational cycles of violence. Providers whanau to break intergenerational cycles of violence. Providers have cycles of violence. Providers have told cycles of violence. Providers have told us cycles of violence. Providers have told us that cycles of violence. Providers have told us that they cycles of violence. Providers have told us that they have cycles of violence. Providers have told us that they have seen cycles of violence. Providers have told us that they have seen the cycles of violence. Providers have told us that they have seen the same told us that they have seen the same told us that they have seen the same told us that they have seen the same clients over told us that they have seen the same clients over and told us that they have seen the same clients over and over told us that they have seen the same clients over and over again told us that they have seen the same clients over and over again and told us that they have seen the same clients over and over again and are clients over and over again and are now clients over and over again and are now seeing clients over and over again and are now seeing some clients over and over again and are now seeing some of clients over and over again and are now seeing some of the clients over and over again and are now seeing some of the children clients over and over again and are now seeing some of the children and now seeing some of the children and grandchildren now seeing some of the children and grandchildren of now seeing some of the children and grandchildren of these now seeing some of the children and grandchildren of these clients. grandchildren of these clients. These grandchildren of these clients. These new grandchildren of these clients. These new whanau grandchildren of these clients. These new whanau resilience grandchildren of these clients. These new whanau resilience services These new whanau resilience services will These new whanau resilience services will provide These new whanau resilience services will provide an These new whanau resilience services will provide an opportunity These new whanau resilience services will provide an opportunity for will provide an opportunity for providers will provide an opportunity for providers to will provide an opportunity for providers to walk will provide an opportunity for providers to walk alongside will provide an opportunity for providers to walk alongside these providers to walk alongside these providers to walk alongside these providers to walk alongside these families for providers to walk alongside these families for up providers to walk alongside these families for up to providers to walk alongside these families for up to three providers to walk alongside these families for up to three years providers to walk alongside these families for up to three years so families for up to three years so they families for up to three years so they can families for up to three years so they can support families for up to three years so they can support them families for up to three years so they can support them toward families for up to three years so they can support them toward better they can support them toward better they can support them toward better they can support them toward better long-term outcomes. they can support them toward better long-term outcomes. The they can support them toward better long-term outcomes. The sector they can support them toward better long-term outcomes. The sector has long-term outcomes. The sector has welcomed long-term outcomes. The sector has welcomed this long-term outcomes. The sector has welcomed this announcement long-term outcomes. The sector has welcomed this announcement and welcomed this announcement and the welcomed this announcement and welcomed this announcement and the opportunity to welcomed this announcement and the opportunity to provide welcomed this announcement and the opportunity to provide the welcomed this announcement and the opportunity to provide the best opportunity to provide the best possible opportunity to provide the best possible services opportunity to provide the best possible services for opportunity to provide the best possible services for families opportunity to provide the best possible services for families and possible services for families and their possible services for families and their communities. possible services for families and their communities. What possible services for families and their communities. What will possible services for families and their communities. What will be their communities. What will be different their communities. What will be different about their communities. What will be different about the their communities. What will be different about the whanau different about the whanau their different about the whanau resilience services? Whanau resilience services? Whanau resilience resilience services? Whanau resilience services resilience services? Whanau resilience services will resilience services? Whanau resilience services will be resilience services? Whanau resilience services will be a resilience services? Whanau resilience services will be a whole resilience services? Whanau new approach resilience services? Whanau new approach to resilience services? Whanau new approach to getting resilience services? Whanau new approach to getting the resilience services? Whanau new approach to getting the right new approach to getting the right outcomes new approach to getting the right outcomes and new approach to getting the right outcomes and breaking new approach to getting the right outcomes and breaking down new approach to getting the right outcomes and breaking down cycles new approach to getting the right outcomes and breaking down cycles of outcomes and breaking down cycles of violence. outcomes and breaking down cycles of violence. We outcomes and breaking down cycles of violence. We know outcomes and breaking down cycles of violence. We know that outcomes and breaking down cycles of violence. We know that different violence. We know that different violence. We know that different violence. We know that different communities and violence. We know that different communities and families violence. We know that different communities and families have communities and families have different communities and families have different needs communities and families have different needs so communities and families have different needs so we communities and families have different needs so we want communities and families have different needs so we want to communities and families have different needs so we want to ensure different needs so we want to ensure that different needs so we want to ensure that service different needs so we want to ensure that service providers different needs so we want to ensure that service providers have different needs so we want to ensure that service providers have the that service providers have the flexibility that service providers have the flexibility and that service providers have the flexibility and security that service providers have the flexibility and security to that service providers have the flexibility and security to be that service providers have the flexibility and security to be able flexibility and security to be able to flexibility and security to be able to provide flexibility and security to be able to provide the flexibility and security to be able to provide the right flexibility and security to be able to provide the right support flexibility and security to be able to provide the right support for to provide the right support for everyone to provide the right support for everyone who to provide the right support for everyone who comes to provide the right support for everyone who comes through to provide the right support for everyone who comes through the to provide the right support for everyone who comes through the door. everyone who comes through the door. Whanau everyone who comes through the door. Whanau resilience everyone who comes through the door. Whanau resilience services everyone who comes through the door. Whanau resilience services will everyone who comes through the door. Whanau resilience services will be Whanau resilience services will be about Whanau resilience services will be about providing Whanau resilience services will be about providing solution Whanau resilience services will be about providing solution and about providing solution and building about providing solution and building resilient about providing solution and building resilient in about providing solution and building resilient in our about providing solution and building resilient in our whanau building resilient in our whanau building resilient in our whanau building resilient in our whanau communities so building resilient in our whanau communities so together building resilient in our whanau communities so together we building resilient in our whanau communities so together we can building resilient in our whanau communities so together we can make communities so together we can make communities so together we can make communities so together we can make a difference communities so together we can make a difference in communities so together we can make a difference in the communities so together we can make a difference in the lives communities so together we can make a difference in the lives of communities so together we can make a difference in the lives of our a difference in the lives of our whanau a difference in the lives of our whanau and a difference in the lives of our whanau and our a difference in the lives of our whanau and our tamariki. a difference in the lives of our whanau and our tamariki. Question whanau and our tamariki. Question No.7. No.7. 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Does utilisation rate at 11.3%, all important information. Does the important information. Does the important information. Does the important information. Does the minister accept important information. Does the minister accept that important information. Does the minister accept that our important information. Does the minister accept that our current minister accept that our current flexible minister accept that our current flexible employment minister accept that our current flexible employment system minister accept that our current flexible employment system has minister accept that our current flexible employment system has been flexible employment system has been a flexible employment system has been a critical flexible employment system has been a critical factor flexible employment system has been a critical factor in flexible employment system has been a critical factor in New flexible employment system has been a critical factor in New Zealand's a critical factor in New Zealand's a critical factor in New Zealand's a critical factor in New Zealand's strong employment a critical factor in New Zealand's strong employment data? 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Health: My question is to the Minister of Health: What My question is to the Minister of Health: What recent My question is to the Minister of Health: What recent announcements Health: What recent announcements has Health: What recent announcements has he Health: What recent announcements has he made Health: What recent announcements has he made about Health: What recent announcements has he made about the Health: What recent announcements has he made about the new Health: What recent announcements has he made about the new Wellington has he made about the new Wellington Children's has he made about the new Wellington Children's Hospital? The The Hon The Hon Dr The Hon Dr David The Hon Dr David Clark. The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, today The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, today I The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, today I visited The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, today I visited Wellington The Hon Dr David Clark. 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I substantial donation of $50 million from a businessman. I want substantial donation of $50 million from a businessman. I want to substantial donation of $50 million from a businessman. I want to put substantial donation of $50 million from a businessman. I want to put on from a businessman. I want to put on record from a businessman. I want to put on record once from a businessman. I want to put on record once again from a businessman. I want to put on record once again the from a businessman. I want to put on record once again the Government's record once again the Government's thanks record once again the Government's thanks for record once again the Government's thanks for his record once again the Government's thanks for his incredible thanks for his incredible generosity. thanks for his incredible generosity. Today thanks for his incredible generosity. Today I thanks for his incredible generosity. Today I announced thanks for his incredible generosity. 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How will the new Wellington Children's Supplementary. How will the new Wellington Children's Hospital Wellington Children's Hospital benefit Wellington Children's Hospital benefit patients, Wellington Children's Hospital benefit patients, family Wellington Children's Hospital benefit patients, family and Wellington Children's Hospital benefit patients, family and staff? benefit patients, family and staff? Mr benefit patients, family and staff? Mr Speaker, benefit patients, family and staff? Mr Speaker, the benefit patients, family and staff? Mr Speaker, the current benefit patients, family and staff? 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What you will find in the Hansard is Mr Speaker, point of order. What you will find in the Hansard is that Mr Speaker, point of order. 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