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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. Petitions Petitions have Petitions have been Petitions have been delivered Petitions have been delivered to Petitions have been delivered to the Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for presentation. to the Clerk for presentation. Petition to the Clerk for presentation. Petition of to the Clerk for presentation. Petition of Holly to the Clerk for presentation. Petition of Holly Dove to the Clerk for presentation. Petition of Holly Dove requesting Petition of Holly Dove requesting that Petition of Holly Dove requesting that the Petition of Holly Dove requesting that the House Petition of Holly Dove requesting that the House urge Petition of Holly Dove requesting that the House urge the Petition of Holly Dove requesting that the House urge the Government that the House urge the Government to that the House urge the Government to establish that the House urge the Government to establish a that the House urge the Government to establish a mandatory, that the House urge the Government to establish a mandatory, nationwide to establish a mandatory, nationwide container to establish a mandatory, nationwide container deposit to establish a mandatory, nationwide container deposit scheme. That That petition That petition stands That petition stands referred That petition stands referred to That petition stands referred to a That petition stands referred to a select That petition stands referred to a select committee That petition stands referred to a select committee allocated That petition stands referred to a select committee allocated by That petition stands referred to a select committee allocated by the select committee allocated by the Clerk. Ministers Ministers have Ministers have delivered Ministers have delivered papers. Ministers have delivered papers. Annual Ministers have delivered papers. Annual Reports Ministers have delivered papers. Annual Reports 2017/18 Ministers have delivered papers. Annual Reports 2017/18 - Ministers have delivered papers. Annual Reports 2017/18 - Northland Annual Reports 2017/18 - Northland DHB, DHB, Commission DHB, Commission for DHB, Commission for Financial DHB, Commission for Financial Capability. Commission for Financial Capability. Those Commission for Financial Capability. Those papers Commission for Financial Capability. Those papers are Commission for Financial Capability. Those papers are published Those papers are published under Those papers are published under the Those papers are published under the authority Those papers are published under the authority of Those papers are published under the authority of the Those papers are published under the authority of the House. Select Select committee Select committee reports Select committee reports have Select committee reports have been Select committee reports have been delivered Select committee reports have been delivered for Select committee reports have been delivered for presentation. delivered for presentation. Report delivered for presentation. Report of delivered for presentation. Report of the delivered for presentation. Report of the Foreign delivered for presentation. 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The The Rt The Rt Hon The Rt Hon Winston The Rt Hon Winston Peters. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the PM, The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the PM, yes. of the PM, yes. Is of the PM, yes. Is it of the PM, yes. Is it a of the PM, yes. Is it a new of the PM, yes. Is it a new fashion of the PM, yes. Is it a new fashion for of the PM, yes. Is it a new fashion for the of the PM, yes. Is it a new fashion for the PM of the PM, yes. 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Does she stand by her statement in relation stand by her statement in relation to stand by her statement in relation to whether stand by her statement in relation to whether banning stand by her statement in relation to whether banning letting stand by her statement in relation to whether banning letting fees stand by her statement in relation to whether banning letting fees will to whether banning letting fees will see to whether banning letting fees will see landlords to whether banning letting fees will see landlords increase to whether banning letting fees will see landlords increase rents to whether banning letting fees will see landlords increase rents to see landlords increase rents to cover see landlords increase rents to cover the see landlords increase rents to cover the costs see landlords increase rents to cover the costs but see landlords increase rents to cover the costs but she see landlords increase rents to cover the costs but she hopes see landlords increase rents to cover the costs but she hopes that cover the costs but she hopes that won't cover the costs but she hopes that won't be cover the costs but she hopes that won't be the cover the costs but she hopes that won't be the case? won't be the case? 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On tenants by way of increased rents." On behalf tenants by way of increased rents." On behalf of tenants by way of increased rents." On behalf of the tenants by way of increased rents." On behalf of the PM, tenants by way of increased rents." On behalf of the PM, the tenants by way of increased rents." On behalf of the PM, the day tenants by way of increased rents." 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Does she expect KiwiBuild houses in Does she expect KiwiBuild houses in that Does she expect KiwiBuild houses in that area Does she expect KiwiBuild houses in that area to Does she expect KiwiBuild houses in that area to fill Does she expect KiwiBuild houses in that area to fill a Does she expect KiwiBuild houses in that area to fill a gap Does she expect KiwiBuild houses in that area to fill a gap in Does she expect KiwiBuild houses in that area to fill a gap in the that area to fill a gap in the market that area to fill a gap in the market for that area to fill a gap in the market for first that area to fill a gap in the market for first home that area to fill a gap in the market for first home buyers that area to fill a gap in the market for first home buyers when market for first home buyers when they market for first home buyers when they are market for first home buyers when they are more market for first home buyers when they are more than market for first home buyers when they are more than $100,000 market for first home buyers when they are more than $100,000 above they are more than $100,000 above the they are more than $100,000 above the median they are more than $100,000 above the median price they are more than $100,000 above the median price in they are more than $100,000 above the median price in that they are more than $100,000 above the median price in that exact they are more than $100,000 above the median price in that exact area? the median price in that exact area? Anyone the median price in that exact area? Anyone who the median price in that exact area? Anyone who understands the median price in that exact area? 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Does she agree with the minister of housing, Phil Twyford minister of housing, Phil Twyford who minister of housing, Phil Twyford who acknowledge minister of housing, Phil Twyford who acknowledge that minister of housing, Phil Twyford who acknowledge that a minister of housing, Phil Twyford who acknowledge that a price minister of housing, Phil Twyford who acknowledge that a price tag minister of housing, Phil Twyford who acknowledge that a price tag of who acknowledge that a price tag of $450,000 who acknowledge that a price tag of $450,000 for who acknowledge that a price tag of $450,000 for a who acknowledge that a price tag of $450,000 for a KiwiBuild who acknowledge that a price tag of $450,000 for a KiwiBuild house who acknowledge that a price tag of $450,000 for a KiwiBuild house would $450,000 for a KiwiBuild house would be $450,000 for a KiwiBuild house would be out $450,000 for a KiwiBuild house would be out of $450,000 for a KiwiBuild house would be out of reach $450,000 for a KiwiBuild house would be out of reach of $450,000 for a KiwiBuild house would be out of reach of many $450,000 for a KiwiBuild house would be out of reach of many residents? be out of reach of many residents? 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Why is the Government building Why is the Government building $450,000 Why is the Government building $450,000 KiwiBuild Why is the Government building $450,000 KiwiBuild houses Why is the Government building $450,000 KiwiBuild houses in Why is the Government building $450,000 KiwiBuild houses in that $450,000 KiwiBuild houses in that area $450,000 KiwiBuild houses in that area in $450,000 KiwiBuild houses in that area in New $450,000 KiwiBuild houses in that area in New Plymouth $450,000 KiwiBuild houses in that area in New Plymouth when $450,000 KiwiBuild houses in that area in New Plymouth when a $450,000 KiwiBuild houses in that area in New Plymouth when a proposal area in New Plymouth when a proposal was area in New Plymouth when a proposal was received area in New Plymouth when a proposal was received by area in New Plymouth when a proposal was received by Housing area in New Plymouth when a proposal was received by Housing New area in New Plymouth when a proposal was received by Housing New Zealand was received by Housing New Zealand to was received by Housing New Zealand to build was received by Housing New Zealand to build 57 was received by Housing New Zealand to build 57 social was received by Housing New Zealand to build 57 social houses was received by Housing New Zealand to build 57 social houses on was received by Housing New Zealand to build 57 social houses on the to build 57 social houses on the same to build 57 social houses on the same site to build 57 social houses on the same site for to build 57 social houses on the same site for around to build 57 social houses on the same site for around $100,000 to build 57 social houses on the same site for around $100,000 less same site for around $100,000 less per same site for around $100,000 less per house same site for around $100,000 less per house and same site for around $100,000 less per house and included same site for around $100,000 less per house and included a same site for around $100,000 less per house and included a rent-to-buy per house and included a rent-to-buy scheme per house and included a rent-to-buy scheme aimed per house and included a rent-to-buy scheme aimed at per house and included a rent-to-buy scheme aimed at low per house and included a rent-to-buy scheme aimed at low income per house and included a rent-to-buy scheme aimed at low income earners scheme aimed at low income earners instead scheme aimed at low income earners instead of scheme aimed at low income earners instead of a scheme aimed at low income earners instead of a ballot scheme aimed at low income earners instead of a ballot process? instead of a ballot process? <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> On <INTERRUPTION> On behalf <INTERRUPTION> On behalf of <INTERRUPTION> On behalf of the <INTERRUPTION> On behalf of the PM <INTERRUPTION> On behalf of the PM the <INTERRUPTION> On behalf of the PM the reality <INTERRUPTION> On behalf of the PM the reality is On behalf of the PM the reality is that On behalf of the PM the reality is that there On behalf of the PM the reality is that there is On behalf of the PM the reality is that there is a On behalf of the PM the reality is that there is a huge On behalf of the PM the reality is that there is a huge difference that there is a huge difference between that there is a huge difference between private that there is a huge difference between private house that there is a huge difference between private house ownership that there is a huge difference between private house ownership and between private house ownership and social between private house ownership and social housing. between private house ownership and social housing. 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Question Question number6. Question Question number6. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Regional My question is to the Minister for Regional Economic My question is to the Minister for Regional Economic Development: My question is to the Minister for Regional Economic Development: Does Regional Economic Development: Does he Regional Economic Development: Does he stand Regional Economic Development: Does he stand by Regional Economic Development: Does he stand by all Regional Economic Development: Does he stand by all his Regional Economic Development: Does he stand by all his statements Regional Economic Development: Does he stand by all his statements and he stand by all his statements and actions? 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With regard to the voluntary bonding scheme, this the voluntary bonding scheme, this the voluntary bonding scheme, this the voluntary bonding scheme, this Government has the voluntary bonding scheme, this Government has increased the voluntary bonding scheme, this Government has increased the the voluntary bonding scheme, this Government has increased the number Government has increased the number Government has increased the number Government has increased the number of teachers Government has increased the number of teachers eligible Government has increased the number of teachers eligible for Government has increased the number of teachers eligible for the of teachers eligible for the voluntary of teachers eligible for the voluntary bonding of teachers eligible for the voluntary bonding scheme. of teachers eligible for the voluntary bonding scheme. Question voluntary bonding scheme. Question No.9. No.9. 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