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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. Mr Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker. I Mr Speaker. I seek Mr Speaker. I seek leave Mr Speaker. I seek leave to Mr Speaker. I seek leave to introduce... Mr Speaker. I seek leave to introduce... I Mr Speaker. I seek leave to introduce... I think Mr Speaker. I seek leave to introduce... I think it Mr Speaker. I seek leave to introduce... I think it might Mr Speaker. I seek leave to introduce... I think it might be introduce... I think it might be nice introduce... I think it might be nice if introduce... I think it might be nice if we introduce... I think it might be nice if we just introduce... I think it might be nice if we just do introduce... I think it might be nice if we just do the introduce... I think it might be nice if we just do the general nice if we just do the general business nice if we just do the general business first. nice if we just do the general business first. Absolutely. nice if we just do the general business first. Absolutely. In business first. Absolutely. In select business first. Absolutely. In select committee reports reports have reports have been reports have been presented. Petitions Petitions have Petitions have been Petitions have been delivered Petitions have been delivered to Petitions have been delivered to the Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for presentation. to the Clerk for presentation. Petition to the Clerk for presentation. Petition of to the Clerk for presentation. Petition of Lou to the Clerk for presentation. 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Those petitions stand referred Those petitions stand referred to Those petitions stand referred to a Those petitions stand referred to a select Those petitions stand referred to a select committee to a select committee allocated to a select committee allocated by to a select committee allocated by the to a select committee allocated by the Clerk. Ministers Ministers have Ministers have delivered Ministers have delivered papers. Ministers have delivered papers. Annual Ministers have delivered papers. Annual Reports Ministers have delivered papers. Annual Reports 2017/2018: Annual Reports 2017/2018: Health Annual Reports 2017/2018: Health Promotion Annual Reports 2017/2018: Health Promotion Agency. Health Promotion Agency. Bay Health Promotion Agency. Bay of Health Promotion Agency. Bay of Plenty Health Promotion Agency. Bay of Plenty DHB. Bay of Plenty DHB. Mid Bay of Plenty DHB. Mid Central Bay of Plenty DHB. Mid Central DHB. Mid Central DHB. Waitemata Mid Central DHB. Waitemata DHB. Waitemata DHB. Education Waitemata DHB. Education Council. Education Council. Crown's Education Council. Crown's Implementation Crown's Implementation of Crown's Implementation of Waitangi Crown's Implementation of Waitangi Tribunal of Waitangi Tribunal Recommendations. Recommendations. Statement Recommendations. Statement of Recommendations. Statement of Performance Statement of Performance Expectations Statement of Performance Expectations 2018/19: Expectations 2018/19: Bay Expectations 2018/19: Bay of Expectations 2018/19: Bay of Plenty Expectations 2018/19: Bay of Plenty DHB. Bay of Plenty DHB. Mid Bay of Plenty DHB. Mid Central Bay of Plenty DHB. Mid Central DHB. Mid Central DHB. Waitemata Mid Central DHB. Waitemata DHB. Waitemata DHB. Statement Waitemata DHB. Statement of Waitemata DHB. Statement of Intent Waitemata DHB. Statement of Intent 2018/22: Statement of Intent 2018/22: Counties Statement of Intent 2018/22: Counties Manukau Statement of Intent 2018/22: Counties Manukau DHB. Counties Manukau DHB. I Counties Manukau DHB. I present Counties Manukau DHB. I present the Counties Manukau DHB. I present the report Counties Manukau DHB. I present the report of I present the report of the I present the report of the Controller I present the report of the Controller and I present the report of the Controller and Auditor-General the Controller and Auditor-General entitled the Controller and Auditor-General entitled Sea the Controller and Auditor-General entitled Sea Change the Controller and Auditor-General entitled Sea Change - entitled Sea Change - Tai entitled Sea Change - Tai Timu entitled Sea Change - Tai Timu Tai entitled Sea Change - Tai Timu Tai Pari: entitled Sea Change - Tai Timu Tai Pari: Creating entitled Sea Change - Tai Timu Tai Pari: Creating a entitled Sea Change - Tai Timu Tai Pari: Creating a marine Tai Timu Tai Pari: Creating a marine spatial Tai Timu Tai Pari: Creating a marine spatial plan Tai Timu Tai Pari: Creating a marine spatial plan for Tai Timu Tai Pari: Creating a marine spatial plan for the Tai Timu Tai Pari: Creating a marine spatial plan for the Hauraki Tai Timu Tai Pari: Creating a marine spatial plan for the Hauraki Gulf, spatial plan for the Hauraki Gulf, I spatial plan for the Hauraki Gulf, I also spatial plan for the Hauraki Gulf, I also present spatial plan for the Hauraki Gulf, I also present the spatial plan for the Hauraki Gulf, I also present the Register I also present the Register of I also present the Register of Pecuniary I also present the Register of Pecuniary and I also present the Register of Pecuniary and Other I also present the Register of Pecuniary and Other Specified of Pecuniary and Other Specified Interests of Pecuniary and Other Specified Interests of of Pecuniary and Other Specified Interests of Members of Pecuniary and Other Specified Interests of Members of of Pecuniary and Other Specified Interests of Members of Parliament: Interests of Members of Parliament: Summary Interests of Members of Parliament: Summary of Interests of Members of Parliament: Summary of amendments Interests of Members of Parliament: Summary of amendments to Interests of Members of Parliament: Summary of amendments to annual Summary of amendments to annual returns Summary of amendments to annual returns and Summary of amendments to annual returns and initial Summary of amendments to annual returns and initial returns returns and initial returns from returns and initial returns from newly-elected returns and initial returns from newly-elected members returns and initial returns from newly-elected members 2018. from newly-elected members 2018. Those from newly-elected members 2018. Those papers from newly-elected members 2018. Those papers are from newly-elected members 2018. Those papers are published Those papers are published under Those papers are published under the Those papers are published under the authority Those papers are published under the authority of Those papers are published under the authority of the Those papers are published under the authority of the House. The The Clerk The Clerk has The Clerk has been The Clerk has been informed The Clerk has been informed of The Clerk has been informed of the The Clerk has been informed of the introduction The Clerk has been informed of the introduction of The Clerk has been informed of the introduction of bills. of the introduction of bills. Regulatory of the introduction of bills. Regulatory Systems of the introduction of bills. Regulatory Systems (Workforce) Regulatory Systems (Workforce) Amendment Regulatory Systems (Workforce) Amendment Bill Regulatory Systems (Workforce) Amendment Bill (No Regulatory Systems (Workforce) Amendment Bill (No 2) Regulatory Systems (Workforce) Amendment Bill (No 2) - Regulatory Systems (Workforce) Amendment Bill (No 2) - introduction Amendment Bill (No 2) - introduction Regulatory Amendment Bill (No 2) - introduction Regulatory Systems Amendment Bill (No 2) - introduction Regulatory Systems (Housing) Regulatory Systems (Housing) Amendment Regulatory Systems (Housing) Amendment Bill Regulatory Systems (Housing) Amendment Bill (No Regulatory Systems (Housing) Amendment Bill (No 2) Regulatory Systems (Housing) Amendment Bill (No 2) - Regulatory Systems (Housing) Amendment Bill (No 2) - introduction Amendment Bill (No 2) - introduction Regulatory Amendment Bill (No 2) - introduction Regulatory Systems Amendment Bill (No 2) - introduction Regulatory Systems (Economic Regulatory Systems (Economic Development) Regulatory Systems (Economic Development) Amendment Regulatory Systems (Economic Development) Amendment Bill Regulatory Systems (Economic Development) Amendment Bill - Development) Amendment Bill - introduction. introduction. Those introduction. Those Bills introduction. Those Bills are introduction. Those Bills are set introduction. Those Bills are set down introduction. Those Bills are set down for introduction. Those Bills are set down for first Those Bills are set down for first reading. Nicola Nicola Willis. Nicola Willis. I Nicola Willis. I seek Nicola Willis. I seek leave Nicola Willis. I seek leave to Nicola Willis. I seek leave to introduce Nicola Willis. I seek leave to introduce the Nicola Willis. I seek leave to introduce the Kiwi Nicola Willis. 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Members' Order of the Day number 1. Leave Members' Order of the Day number 1. Leave is Members' Order of the Day number 1. Leave is sought Members' Order of the Day number 1. Leave is sought for Members' Order of the Day number 1. Leave is sought for that Members' Order of the Day number 1. Leave is sought for that course Members' Order of the Day number 1. Leave is sought for that course of Leave is sought for that course of action. Leave is sought for that course of action. Is Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? action. Is there any objection? Disappointing! action. Is there any objection? Disappointing! We action. Is there any objection? Disappointing! We come action. Is there any objection? Disappointing! We come to action. Is there any objection? Disappointing! We come to oral Disappointing! We come to oral questions. Disappointing! We come to oral questions. Question Disappointing! We come to oral questions. Question No.1. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: My question is to the Prime Minister: Does My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all her Minister: Does she stand by all her Government's Minister: Does she stand by all her Government's statements Minister: Does she stand by all her Government's statements and Minister: Does she stand by all her Government's statements and actions? Yes. Yes. Does Yes. Does she Yes. Does she agree Yes. Does she agree with Yes. Does she agree with Labour Yes. Does she agree with Labour leader Yes. Does she agree with Labour leader Jacinda Yes. Does she agree with Labour leader Jacinda Ardern's Yes. Does she agree with Labour leader Jacinda Ardern's statement leader Jacinda Ardern's statement that leader Jacinda Ardern's statement that there leader Jacinda Ardern's statement that there will leader Jacinda Ardern's statement that there will be leader Jacinda Ardern's statement that there will be no leader Jacinda Ardern's statement that there will be no nationwide that there will be no nationwide strikes that there will be no nationwide strikes under that there will be no nationwide strikes under her that there will be no nationwide strikes under her Government? that there will be no nationwide strikes under her Government? That strikes under her Government? That statement strikes under her Government? That statement was strikes under her Government? That statement was given strikes under her Government? That statement was given during strikes under her Government? 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Obviously we, as a Government, have no direct we, as a Government, have no direct role we, as a Government, have no direct role in we, as a Government, have no direct role in that we, as a Government, have no direct role in that dispute. we, as a Government, have no direct role in that dispute. However, we, as a Government, have no direct role in that dispute. However, I we, as a Government, have no direct role in that dispute. However, I am role in that dispute. However, I am concerned role in that dispute. However, I am concerned enough role in that dispute. However, I am concerned enough by role in that dispute. However, I am concerned enough by the role in that dispute. However, I am concerned enough by the disruption concerned enough by the disruption that concerned enough by the disruption that would concerned enough by the disruption that would likely concerned enough by the disruption that would likely be concerned enough by the disruption that would likely be caused concerned enough by the disruption that would likely be caused that concerned enough by the disruption that would likely be caused that I that would likely be caused that I have that would likely be caused that I have contacted that would likely be caused that I have contacted both that would likely be caused that I have contacted both parties that would likely be caused that I have contacted both parties directly have contacted both parties directly and have contacted both parties directly and conveyed have contacted both parties directly and conveyed my have contacted both parties directly and conveyed my very have contacted both parties directly and conveyed my very strong have contacted both parties directly and conveyed my very strong hope and conveyed my very strong hope that and conveyed my very strong hope that we and conveyed my very strong hope that we will and conveyed my very strong hope that we will see and conveyed my very strong hope that we will see some and conveyed my very strong hope that we will see some resolution. and conveyed my very strong hope that we will see some resolution. 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There there too many strikes in New Zealand today? There has there too many strikes in New Zealand today? There has been there too many strikes in New Zealand today? There has been too Zealand today? There has been too much Zealand today? There has been too much lack Zealand today? There has been too much lack of Zealand today? There has been too much lack of investment Zealand today? There has been too much lack of investment and Zealand today? There has been too much lack of investment and we Zealand today? There has been too much lack of investment and we are much lack of investment and we are fixing much lack of investment and we are fixing it. much lack of investment and we are fixing it. Is much lack of investment and we are fixing it. Is she much lack of investment and we are fixing it. Is she concerned much lack of investment and we are fixing it. Is she concerned that much lack of investment and we are fixing it. Is she concerned that the fixing it. Is she concerned that the people fixing it. Is she concerned that the people who fixing it. Is she concerned that the people who made fixing it. Is she concerned that the people who made representations fixing it. Is she concerned that the people who made representations on people who made representations on behalf people who made representations on behalf of people who made representations on behalf of Karel people who made representations on behalf of Karel Sroubek people who made representations on behalf of Karel Sroubek may people who made representations on behalf of Karel Sroubek may have behalf of Karel Sroubek may have associations behalf of Karel Sroubek may have associations with behalf of Karel Sroubek may have associations with her behalf of Karel Sroubek may have associations with her Government? behalf of Karel Sroubek may have associations with her Government? Mr associations with her Government? Mr Speaker, associations with her Government? Mr Speaker, no. associations with her Government? Mr Speaker, no. As associations with her Government? Mr Speaker, no. As I associations with her Government? Mr Speaker, no. As I mentioned associations with her Government? Mr Speaker, no. As I mentioned in associations with her Government? Mr Speaker, no. As I mentioned in the Speaker, no. As I mentioned in the House Speaker, no. As I mentioned in the House yesterday, Speaker, no. As I mentioned in the House yesterday, and Speaker, no. 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Today I want to focus on the work we have done to help the work we have done to help businesses the work we have done to help businesses and the work we have done to help businesses and workers the work we have done to help businesses and workers prepare the work we have done to help businesses and workers prepare for businesses and workers prepare for the businesses and workers prepare for the changing businesses and workers prepare for the changing nature businesses and workers prepare for the changing nature of businesses and workers prepare for the changing nature of work businesses and workers prepare for the changing nature of work as businesses and workers prepare for the changing nature of work as we the changing nature of work as we transition the changing nature of work as we transition to the changing nature of work as we transition to a the changing nature of work as we transition to a new the changing nature of work as we transition to a new economy the changing nature of work as we transition to a new economy that the changing nature of work as we transition to a new economy that is transition to a new economy that is more transition to a new economy that is more productive, transition to a new economy that is more productive, sustainable transition to a new economy that is more productive, sustainable and more productive, sustainable and inclusive. more productive, sustainable and inclusive. 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The future of work tripartite transition? Just a few examples. The future of work tripartite forum transition? Just a few examples. 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It is this kind of forward planning that is essential forward planning that is essential if forward planning that is essential if New forward planning that is essential if New Zealanders forward planning that is essential if New Zealanders are forward planning that is essential if New Zealanders are to forward planning that is essential if New Zealanders are to have forward planning that is essential if New Zealanders are to have a forward planning that is essential if New Zealanders are to have a fair if New Zealanders are to have a fair and if New Zealanders are to have a fair and just if New Zealanders are to have a fair and just transition if New Zealanders are to have a fair and just transition to if New Zealanders are to have a fair and just transition to a if New Zealanders are to have a fair and just transition to a world if New Zealanders are to have a fair and just transition to a world of and just transition to a world of work and just transition to a world of work that and just transition to a world of work that is and just transition to a world of work that is being and just transition to a world of work that is being rapidly and just transition to a world of work that is being rapidly changed work that is being rapidly changed by work that is being rapidly changed by new work that is being rapidly changed by new technology. work that is being rapidly changed by new technology. 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Unlike the other side of the House, we believe other side of the House, we believe that other side of the House, we believe that wherever other side of the House, we believe that wherever you other side of the House, we believe that wherever you live other side of the House, we believe that wherever you live in other side of the House, we believe that wherever you live in New that wherever you live in New Zealand that wherever you live in New Zealand you that wherever you live in New Zealand you deserve that wherever you live in New Zealand you deserve a that wherever you live in New Zealand you deserve a decent that wherever you live in New Zealand you deserve a decent shot that wherever you live in New Zealand you deserve a decent shot at Zealand you deserve a decent shot at a Zealand you deserve a decent shot at a decent Zealand you deserve a decent shot at a decent life Zealand you deserve a decent shot at a decent life and Zealand you deserve a decent shot at a decent life and the Zealand you deserve a decent shot at a decent life and the PGF Zealand you deserve a decent shot at a decent life and the PGF is Zealand you deserve a decent shot at a decent life and the PGF is a Zealand you deserve a decent shot at a decent life and the PGF is a good a decent life and the PGF is a good part a decent life and the PGF is a good part of a decent life and the PGF is a good part of making a decent life and the PGF is a good part of making that a decent life and the PGF is a good part of making that happen. a decent life and the PGF is a good part of making that happen. Is a decent life and the PGF is a good part of making that happen. Is it part of making that happen. Is it also part of making that happen. Is it also using part of making that happen. Is it also using expenditure part of making that happen. Is it also using expenditure wisely part of making that happen. 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It is quite clear that members on the other side of that members on the other side of the that members on the other side of the House that members on the other side of the House don't that members on the other side of the House don't want that members on the other side of the House don't want the that members on the other side of the House don't want the West that members on the other side of the House don't want the West Coast the House don't want the West Coast economy the House don't want the West Coast economy to the House don't want the West Coast economy to thrive. the House don't want the West Coast economy to thrive. Actually, the House don't want the West Coast economy to thrive. Actually, on the House don't want the West Coast economy to thrive. Actually, on this economy to thrive. Actually, on this side economy to thrive. Actually, on this side of economy to thrive. Actually, on this side of the economy to thrive. Actually, on this side of the House economy to thrive. Actually, on this side of the House we economy to thrive. Actually, on this side of the House we think economy to thrive. Actually, on this side of the House we think it economy to thrive. Actually, on this side of the House we think it is side of the House we think it is time side of the House we think it is time that side of the House we think it is time that the side of the House we think it is time that the Government side of the House we think it is time that the Government got time that the Government got alongside time that the Government got alongside that time that the Government got alongside that community time that the Government got alongside that community and time that the Government got alongside that community and the alongside that community and the communities alongside that community and the communities of alongside that community and the communities of Gisborne alongside that community and the communities of Gisborne and alongside that community and the communities of Gisborne and the alongside that community and the communities of Gisborne and the far communities of Gisborne and the far north communities of Gisborne and the far north and communities of Gisborne and the far north and Manawatu communities of Gisborne and the far north and Manawatu Whanangui, communities of Gisborne and the far north and Manawatu Whanangui, so communities of Gisborne and the far north and Manawatu Whanangui, so by north and Manawatu Whanangui, so by all north and Manawatu Whanangui, so by all means north and Manawatu Whanangui, so by all means the north and Manawatu Whanangui, so by all means the National north and Manawatu Whanangui, so by all means the National Party north and Manawatu Whanangui, so by all means the National Party can all means the National Party can trash all means the National Party can trash the all means the National Party can trash the regions all means the National Party can trash the regions of all means the National Party can trash the regions of New all means the National Party can trash the regions of New Zealand. all means the National Party can trash the regions of New Zealand. Go trash the regions of New Zealand. Go ahead. trash the regions of New Zealand. Go ahead. Question trash the regions of New Zealand. Go ahead. Question No.4. trash trash the trash the regions trash the regions of trash the regions of New trash the regions of New Zealand. trash the regions of New Zealand. Go trash the regions of New Zealand. Go ahead. trash the regions of New Zealand. Go ahead. Question trash the regions of New Zealand. Go ahead. Question No.4. 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We knew it would be hard and we towards the targets we have set. We knew it would be hard and we had towards the targets we have set. We knew it would be hard and we had to knew it would be hard and we had to start knew it would be hard and we had to start from knew it would be hard and we had to start from a knew it would be hard and we had to start from a standing knew it would be hard and we had to start from a standing start. knew it would be hard and we had to start from a standing start. The start from a standing start. The first start from a standing start. The first KiwiBuild start from a standing start. The first KiwiBuild homes start from a standing start. The first KiwiBuild homes in start from a standing start. The first KiwiBuild homes in Te start from a standing start. The first KiwiBuild homes in Te Kauwhata first KiwiBuild homes in Te Kauwhata are first KiwiBuild homes in Te Kauwhata are expected first KiwiBuild homes in Te Kauwhata are expected to first KiwiBuild homes in Te Kauwhata are expected to be first KiwiBuild homes in Te Kauwhata are expected to be completed first KiwiBuild homes in Te Kauwhata are expected to be completed by are expected to be completed by Christmas are expected to be completed by Christmas 2019 are expected to be completed by Christmas 2019 and are expected to be completed by Christmas 2019 and available are expected to be completed by Christmas 2019 and available for Christmas 2019 and available for occupation Christmas 2019 and available for occupation in Christmas 2019 and available for occupation in 2020. Christmas 2019 and available for occupation in 2020. If, Christmas 2019 and available for occupation in 2020. If, after Christmas 2019 and available for occupation in 2020. If, after being occupation in 2020. If, after being a occupation in 2020. If, after being a minister occupation in 2020. If, after being a minister for occupation in 2020. If, after being a minister for over occupation in 2020. If, after being a minister for over a occupation in 2020. If, after being a minister for over a year, occupation in 2020. If, after being a minister for over a year, he occupation in 2020. 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I am the large-scale projects. I am really the large-scale projects. I am really positive the large-scale projects. I am really positive about the large-scale projects. I am really positive about the the large-scale projects. I am really positive about the progress really positive about the progress we really positive about the progress we have really positive about the progress we have made. really positive about the progress we have made. We really positive about the progress we have made. We are really positive about the progress we have made. We are doing really positive about the progress we have made. We are doing something we have made. We are doing something that we have made. We are doing something that no we have made. We are doing something that no Government we have made. We are doing something that no Government has we have made. We are doing something that no Government has done we have made. We are doing something that no Government has done in we have made. We are doing something that no Government has done in the that no Government has done in the last that no Government has done in the last 40 that no Government has done in the last 40 years, that no Government has done in the last 40 years, working that no Government has done in the last 40 years, working directly that no Government has done in the last 40 years, working directly with last 40 years, working directly with builders last 40 years, working directly with builders and last 40 years, working directly with builders and developers last 40 years, working directly with builders and developers to last 40 years, working directly with builders and developers to build builders and developers to build affordable builders and developers to build affordable homes builders and developers to build affordable homes for builders and developers to build affordable homes for first builders and developers to build affordable homes for first home affordable homes for first home buyers. affordable homes for first home buyers. 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Point minister will now answer the question. Point of minister will now answer the question. Point of order, minister will now answer the question. Point of order, Mr question. Point of order, Mr Speaker. question. Point of order, Mr Speaker. A question. Point of order, Mr Speaker. A point question. Point of order, Mr Speaker. A point of question. Point of order, Mr Speaker. A point of order. question. Point of order, Mr Speaker. A point of order. The Speaker. A point of order. The question Speaker. A point of order. The question was Speaker. A point of order. The question was in Speaker. A point of order. The question was in two Speaker. A point of order. The question was in two parts. Speaker. A point of order. The question was in two parts. The question was in two parts. The minister question was in two parts. The minister clearly question was in two parts. The minister clearly addressed question was in two parts. The minister clearly addressed the question was in two parts. 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The second part of the question many homes had been contracted. The second part of the question related second part of the question related specifically second part of the question related specifically to second part of the question related specifically to the second part of the question related specifically to the current second part of the question related specifically to the current year. specifically to the current year. The specifically to the current year. The minister specifically to the current year. The minister is specifically to the current year. The minister is not specifically to the current year. The minister is not obliged specifically to the current year. 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I questions wrath than have to ask a two-part question. I might questions wrath than have to ask a two-part question. I might be questions wrath than have to ask a two-part question. I might be wrong two-part question. I might be wrong but two-part question. I might be wrong but I two-part question. I might be wrong but I think two-part question. I might be wrong but I think the two-part question. I might be wrong but I think the Leader two-part question. I might be wrong but I think the Leader of two-part question. I might be wrong but I think the Leader of the two-part question. I might be wrong but I think the Leader of the House but I think the Leader of the House has but I think the Leader of the House has conflated but I think the Leader of the House has conflated the but I think the Leader of the House has conflated the primary but I think the Leader of the House has conflated the primary question has conflated the primary question and has conflated the primary question and the has conflated the primary question and the supplementary has conflated the primary question and the supplementary that has conflated the primary question and the supplementary that was and the supplementary that was asked. and the supplementary that was asked. I and the supplementary that was asked. I will, and the supplementary that was asked. I will, just and the supplementary that was asked. I will, just to and the supplementary that was asked. I will, just to make and the supplementary that was asked. I will, just to make things asked. I will, just to make things absolutely asked. I will, just to make things absolutely clear, asked. I will, just to make things absolutely clear, ask asked. I will, just to make things absolutely clear, ask my asked. I will, just to make things absolutely clear, ask my learned absolutely clear, ask my learned colleague, absolutely clear, ask my learned colleague, the absolutely clear, ask my learned colleague, the Hon absolutely clear, ask my learned colleague, the Hon Judith absolutely clear, ask my learned colleague, the Hon Judith Collins absolutely clear, ask my learned colleague, the Hon Judith Collins to colleague, the Hon Judith Collins to re-ask colleague, the Hon Judith Collins to re-ask her colleague, the Hon Judith Collins to re-ask her question. colleague, the Hon Judith Collins to re-ask her question. Thank colleague, the Hon Judith Collins to re-ask her question. Thank you. colleague, the Hon Judith Collins to re-ask her question. Thank you. If, re-ask her question. 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If houses are sold for a price lower than the time frames involved. If houses are sold for a price lower than the are sold for a price lower than the agreed are sold for a price lower than the agreed underwrite are sold for a price lower than the agreed underwrite price, are sold for a price lower than the agreed underwrite price, what are sold for a price lower than the agreed underwrite price, what - agreed underwrite price, what - which agreed underwrite price, what - which Crown agreed underwrite price, what - which Crown account agreed underwrite price, what - which Crown account will agreed underwrite price, what - which Crown account will this agreed underwrite price, what - which Crown account will this cost which Crown account will this cost come which Crown account will this cost come from? which Crown account will this cost come from? The which Crown account will this cost come from? The underwrite which Crown account will this cost come from? 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Question a public mandate for genetic engineering. Question No.6. a a public a public mandate a public mandate for a public mandate for genetic a public mandate for genetic engineering. a public mandate for genetic engineering. Question a public mandate for genetic engineering. Question No.6. 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Atrusting speed limits to make Atrusting speed limits to make streets Atrusting speed limits to make streets safer Atrusting speed limits to make streets safer for Atrusting speed limits to make streets safer for pedestrians, streets safer for pedestrians, cyclists streets safer for pedestrians, cyclists and streets safer for pedestrians, cyclists and scooter streets safer for pedestrians, cyclists and scooter riders streets safer for pedestrians, cyclists and scooter riders is streets safer for pedestrians, cyclists and scooter riders is an cyclists and scooter riders is an important cyclists and scooter riders is an important part cyclists and scooter riders is an important part of cyclists and scooter riders is an important part of this cyclists and scooter riders is an important part of this change. cyclists and scooter riders is an important part of this change. So cyclists and scooter riders is an important part of this change. So is important part of this change. So is he important part of this change. So is he in important part of this change. So is he in favour important part of this change. So is he in favour of important part of this change. So is he in favour of a important part of this change. So is he in favour of a 30km important part of this change. So is he in favour of a 30km an important part of this change. So is he in favour of a 30km an hour important part of this change. So is he in favour of a 30km an hour speed he in favour of a 30km an hour speed limit he in favour of a 30km an hour speed limit on he in favour of a 30km an hour speed limit on Nelson he in favour of a 30km an hour speed limit on Nelson street he in favour of a 30km an hour speed limit on Nelson street and he in favour of a 30km an hour speed limit on Nelson street and Hobson limit on Nelson street and Hobson Street? limit on Nelson street and Hobson Street? It limit on Nelson street and Hobson Street? It is limit on Nelson street and Hobson Street? 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The effective tools we have in reducing road trauma. The public effective tools we have in reducing road trauma. The public will effective tools we have in reducing road trauma. The public will now road trauma. The public will now have road trauma. The public will now have their road trauma. The public will now have their say road trauma. The public will now have their say on road trauma. The public will now have their say on our road trauma. The public will now have their say on our safe road trauma. The public will now have their say on our safe speed have their say on our safe speed proposals have their say on our safe speed proposals early have their say on our safe speed proposals early next have their say on our safe speed proposals early next year have their say on our safe speed proposals early next year and have their say on our safe speed proposals early next year and for proposals early next year and for Auckland proposals early next year and for Auckland transport proposals early next year and for Auckland transport to proposals early next year and for Auckland transport to continue proposals early next year and for Auckland transport to continue its Auckland transport to continue its work Auckland transport to continue its work to Auckland transport to continue its work to make Auckland transport to continue its work to make our Auckland transport to continue its work to make our streets Auckland transport to continue its work to make our streets safer Auckland transport to continue its work to make our streets safer for work to make our streets safer for everyone, work to make our streets safer for everyone, if work to make our streets safer for everyone, if the work to make our streets safer for everyone, if the member work to make our streets safer for everyone, if the member is work to make our streets safer for everyone, if the member is concerned everyone, if the member is concerned about everyone, if the member is concerned about this everyone, if the member is concerned about this issue, everyone, if the member is concerned about this issue, I everyone, if the member is concerned about this issue, I urge everyone, if the member is concerned about this issue, I urge him everyone, if the member is concerned about this issue, I urge him to everyone, if the member is concerned about this issue, I urge him to make about this issue, I urge him to make a about this issue, I urge him to make a submission about this issue, I urge him to make a submission to about this issue, I urge him to make a submission to Auckland about this issue, I urge him to make a submission to Auckland Council's a submission to Auckland Council's process a submission to Auckland Council's process on a submission to Auckland Council's process on this. a submission to Auckland Council's process on this. Thank a submission to Auckland Council's process on this. Thank you a submission to Auckland Council's process on this. Thank you very process on this. Thank you very much. process on this. Thank you very much. Supplementary. process on this. Thank you very much. Supplementary. Has process on this. Thank you very much. Supplementary. Has he process on this. Thank you very much. Supplementary. Has he had process on this. Thank you very much. Supplementary. Has he had any much. Supplementary. Has he had any discussions much. Supplementary. Has he had any discussions with much. Supplementary. Has he had any discussions with any much. Supplementary. Has he had any discussions with any ministers much. Supplementary. Has he had any discussions with any ministers about discussions with any ministers about the discussions with any ministers about the threatened discussions with any ministers about the threatened strike discussions with any ministers about the threatened strike action discussions with any ministers about the threatened strike action at discussions with any ministers about the threatened strike action at Air the threatened strike action at Air NZ the threatened strike action at Air NZ that the threatened strike action at Air NZ that will the threatened strike action at Air NZ that will make the threatened strike action at Air NZ that will make it the threatened strike action at Air NZ that will make it more the threatened strike action at Air NZ that will make it more difficult NZ that will make it more difficult for NZ that will make it more difficult for New NZ that will make it more difficult for New Zealanders NZ that will make it more difficult for New Zealanders to NZ that will make it more difficult for New Zealanders to get NZ that will make it more difficult for New Zealanders to get around NZ that will make it more difficult for New Zealanders to get around the for New Zealanders to get around the country for New Zealanders to get around the country before for New Zealanders to get around the country before Christmas? for New Zealanders to get around the country before Christmas? Could for New Zealanders to get around the country before Christmas? Could the country before Christmas? Could the member country before Christmas? Could the member repeat country before Christmas? Could the member repeat the country before Christmas? Could the member repeat the question. country before Christmas? Could the member repeat the question. Any member repeat the question. Any discussions member repeat the question. Any discussions with member repeat the question. Any discussions with whom? member repeat the question. Any discussions with whom? With member repeat the question. Any discussions with whom? With my discussions with whom? With my ministers? discussions with whom? With my ministers? No. discussions with whom? With my ministers? No. That's discussions with whom? With my ministers? No. That's not discussions with whom? With my ministers? No. That's not unusual ministers? No. That's not unusual though. ministers? No. That's not unusual though. <LAUGHTER> though. <LAUGHTER> Question though. <LAUGHTER> Question No.7. though. though. <LAUGHTER> though. <LAUGHTER> Question though. <LAUGHTER> Question No.7. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Workplace My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations and My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety: My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety: How Workplace Relations and Safety: How many Workplace Relations and Safety: How many workers Workplace Relations and Safety: How many workers have Workplace Relations and Safety: How many workers have gone Workplace Relations and Safety: How many workers have gone on Workplace Relations and Safety: How many workers have gone on strike Workplace Relations and Safety: How many workers have gone on strike so many workers have gone on strike so far many workers have gone on strike so far in many workers have gone on strike so far in 2018, many workers have gone on strike so far in 2018, and many workers have gone on strike so far in 2018, and does many workers have gone on strike so far in 2018, and does he many workers have gone on strike so far in 2018, and does he believe many workers have gone on strike so far in 2018, and does he believe it far in 2018, and does he believe it is far in 2018, and does he believe it is reasonable far in 2018, and does he believe it is reasonable for far in 2018, and does he believe it is reasonable for union far in 2018, and does he believe it is reasonable for union workers far in 2018, and does he believe it is reasonable for union workers at is reasonable for union workers at Air is reasonable for union workers at Air New is reasonable for union workers at Air New Zealand is reasonable for union workers at Air New Zealand to is reasonable for union workers at Air New Zealand to threaten is reasonable for union workers at Air New Zealand to threaten strike Air New Zealand to threaten strike action Air New Zealand to threaten strike action on Air New Zealand to threaten strike action on the Air New Zealand to threaten strike action on the 21st, Air New Zealand to threaten strike action on the 21st, 22nd, Air New Zealand to threaten strike action on the 21st, 22nd, and Air New Zealand to threaten strike action on the 21st, 22nd, and 23rd action on the 21st, 22nd, and 23rd of action on the 21st, 22nd, and 23rd of December? 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Does Air NZ and the staff they are negotiating with. Does he Air NZ and the staff they are negotiating with. Does he consider negotiating with. Does he consider it negotiating with. Does he consider it reasonable negotiating with. Does he consider it reasonable for negotiating with. Does he consider it reasonable for engineers negotiating with. Does he consider it reasonable for engineers at negotiating with. 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Again, chips for their higher pay demands? Again, Mr chips for their higher pay demands? Again, Mr Speaker, chips for their higher pay demands? Again, Mr Speaker, I chips for their higher pay demands? Again, Mr Speaker, I have chips for their higher pay demands? Again, Mr Speaker, I have no chips for their higher pay demands? 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Has he considered consulting the right Hon Jim Bulger, consulting the right Hon Jim Bulger, for consulting the right Hon Jim Bulger, for advice consulting the right Hon Jim Bulger, for advice on consulting the right Hon Jim Bulger, for advice on inviting consulting the right Hon Jim Bulger, for advice on inviting Air consulting the right Hon Jim Bulger, for advice on inviting Air NZ consulting the right Hon Jim Bulger, for advice on inviting Air NZ and for advice on inviting Air NZ and union for advice on inviting Air NZ and union representatives for advice on inviting Air NZ and union representatives to for advice on inviting Air NZ and union representatives to his for advice on inviting Air NZ and union representatives to his office union representatives to his office in union representatives to his office in an union representatives to his office in an attempt union representatives to his office in an attempt to union representatives to his office in an attempt to resolve union representatives to his office in an attempt to resolve the in an attempt to resolve the stand-off? in an attempt to resolve the stand-off? No. in an attempt to resolve the stand-off? No. We in an attempt to resolve the stand-off? No. We have in an attempt to resolve the stand-off? No. We have excellent stand-off? No. We have excellent processes stand-off? No. We have excellent processes for stand-off? No. We have excellent processes for dealing stand-off? No. We have excellent processes for dealing with stand-off? No. We have excellent processes for dealing with these processes for dealing with these disputes. processes for dealing with these disputes. <INTERRUPTION> disputes. <INTERRUPTION> I disputes. <INTERRUPTION> I have disputes. <INTERRUPTION> I have spoken disputes. <INTERRUPTION> I have spoken with disputes. <INTERRUPTION> I have spoken with MBIE disputes. <INTERRUPTION> I have spoken with MBIE to disputes. <INTERRUPTION> I have spoken with MBIE to make disputes. <INTERRUPTION> I have spoken with MBIE to make sure I have spoken with MBIE to make sure they I have spoken with MBIE to make sure they have I have spoken with MBIE to make sure they have made I have spoken with MBIE to make sure they have made those I have spoken with MBIE to make sure they have made those processes they have made those processes available they have made those processes available to they have made those processes available to the they have made those processes available to the parties they have made those processes available to the parties in they have made those processes available to the parties in this available to the parties in this dispute available to the parties in this dispute and available to the parties in this dispute and I available to the parties in this dispute and I encourage available to the parties in this dispute and I encourage them available to the parties in this dispute and I encourage them to available to the parties in this dispute and I encourage them to stay dispute and I encourage them to stay at dispute and I encourage them to stay at the dispute and I encourage them to stay at the table dispute and I encourage them to stay at the table and dispute and I encourage them to stay at the table and sort dispute and I encourage them to stay at the table and sort it dispute and I encourage them to stay at the table and sort it out. dispute and I encourage them to stay at the table and sort it out. 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Why doesn't the minister ask the former doesn't the minister ask the former National doesn't the minister ask the former National Party doesn't the minister ask the former National Party leader doesn't the minister ask the former National Party leader who doesn't the minister ask the former National Party leader who they doesn't the minister ask the former National Party leader who they put National Party leader who they put on National Party leader who they put on their National Party leader who they put on their New National Party leader who they put on their New Zealand National Party leader who they put on their New Zealand board National Party leader who they put on their New Zealand board to National Party leader who they put on their New Zealand board to go National Party leader who they put on their New Zealand board to go and on their New Zealand board to go and sort on their New Zealand board to go and sort this on their New Zealand board to go and sort this thing on their New Zealand board to go and sort this thing out? on their New Zealand board to go and sort this thing out? 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Immigration: My question is to the Minister of Immigration: Other My question is to the Minister of Immigration: Other than My question is to the Minister of Immigration: Other than Karel Immigration: Other than Karel Sroubek's Immigration: Other than Karel Sroubek's lawyer Immigration: Other than Karel Sroubek's lawyer and Immigration: Other than Karel Sroubek's lawyer and family Immigration: Other than Karel Sroubek's lawyer and family members, Sroubek's lawyer and family members, who Sroubek's lawyer and family members, who made Sroubek's lawyer and family members, who made representations Sroubek's lawyer and family members, who made representations on Sroubek's lawyer and family members, who made representations on his who made representations on his behalf who made representations on his behalf in who made representations on his behalf in respect who made representations on his behalf in respect of who made representations on his behalf in respect of the who made representations on his behalf in respect of the deportation behalf in respect of the deportation liability behalf in respect of the deportation liability that behalf in respect of the deportation liability that was behalf in respect of the deportation liability that was the behalf in respect of the deportation liability that was the subject behalf in respect of the deportation liability that was the subject of liability that was the subject of the liability that was the subject of the Minister's liability that was the subject of the Minister's decision liability that was the subject of the Minister's decision on liability that was the subject of the Minister's decision on 19 the Minister's decision on 19 September the Minister's decision on 19 September 2018? I I can I can confirm I can confirm that I can confirm that amongst I can confirm that amongst the I can confirm that amongst the information I can confirm that amongst the information I I can confirm that amongst the information I considered I can confirm that amongst the information I considered on I can confirm that amongst the information I considered on 19 information I considered on 19 September, information I considered on 19 September, were information I considered on 19 September, were letters information I considered on 19 September, were letters of information I considered on 19 September, were letters of support September, were letters of support from September, were letters of support from family, September, were letters of support from family, friends, September, were letters of support from family, friends, business from family, friends, business associates, from family, friends, business associates, and from family, friends, business associates, and fellow from family, friends, business associates, and fellow sportspeople. associates, and fellow sportspeople. 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I do not consider it in the public interests to release in the public interests to release the in the public interests to release the names in the public interests to release the names of in the public interests to release the names of those in the public interests to release the names of those who in the public interests to release the names of those who provided the names of those who provided support the names of those who provided support or the names of those who provided support or information the names of those who provided support or information regarding the names of those who provided support or information regarding Mr support or information regarding Mr Sroubek. support or information regarding Mr Sroubek. Some support or information regarding Mr Sroubek. Some have support or information regarding Mr Sroubek. Some have questioned Sroubek. Some have questioned anonymity Sroubek. Some have questioned anonymity and Sroubek. Some have questioned anonymity and I Sroubek. 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None of those who made representations to unwarranted attention. None of those who made representations were those who made representations were known those who made representations were known to those who made representations were known to me. those who made representations were known to me. None those who made representations were known to me. None were those who made representations were known to me. None were MPs those who made representations were known to me. None were MPs or those who made representations were known to me. None were MPs or former known to me. None were MPs or former MPs, known to me. None were MPs or former MPs, or known to me. None were MPs or former MPs, or MPs' known to me. None were MPs or former MPs, or MPs' partners. known to me. None were MPs or former MPs, or MPs' partners. I known to me. None were MPs or former MPs, or MPs' partners. I am known to me. None were MPs or former MPs, or MPs' partners. I am unaware MPs, or MPs' partners. I am unaware if MPs, or MPs' partners. I am unaware if any MPs, or MPs' partners. I am unaware if any of MPs, or MPs' partners. I am unaware if any of the MPs, or MPs' partners. I am unaware if any of the people MPs, or MPs' partners. I am unaware if any of the people had MPs, or MPs' partners. I am unaware if any of the people had or MPs, or MPs' partners. I am unaware if any of the people had or have if any of the people had or have links if any of the people had or have links to if any of the people had or have links to any if any of the people had or have links to any political if any of the people had or have links to any political party. if any of the people had or have links to any political party. If if any of the people had or have links to any political party. If it links to any political party. If it is links to any political party. If it is his links to any political party. If it is his intention links to any political party. 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If it is his intention to never publicly is his intention to never publicly release is his intention to never publicly release the is his intention to never publicly release the supporting release the supporting documentations release the supporting documentations and release the supporting documentations and representation documentations and representation letters documentations and representation letters regarding documentations and representation letters regarding his documentations and representation letters regarding his decision, documentations and representation letters regarding his decision, why letters regarding his decision, why did letters regarding his decision, why did he letters regarding his decision, why did he indicate letters regarding his decision, why did he indicate in letters regarding his decision, why did he indicate in answers letters regarding his decision, why did he indicate in answers to letters regarding his decision, why did he indicate in answers to Oral did he indicate in answers to Oral Questions did he indicate in answers to Oral Questions on did he indicate in answers to Oral Questions on 6 did he indicate in answers to Oral Questions on 6 November, did he indicate in answers to Oral Questions on 6 November, that did he indicate in answers to Oral Questions on 6 November, that he Questions on 6 November, that he would Questions on 6 November, that he would commit Questions on 6 November, that he would commit to Questions on 6 November, that he would commit to a Questions on 6 November, that he would commit to a release, Questions on 6 November, that he would commit to a release, "At Questions on 6 November, that he would commit to a release, "At the would commit to a release, "At the appropriate would commit to a release, "At the appropriate time?" would commit to a release, "At the appropriate time?" 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Has appropriate time as required by the Official Information Act. Has he Official Information Act. Has he seen Official Information Act. Has he seen comments Official Information Act. Has he seen comments by Official Information Act. Has he seen comments by Judge Official Information Act. Has he seen comments by Judge Venning seen comments by Judge Venning regarding seen comments by Judge Venning regarding applications seen comments by Judge Venning regarding applications for seen comments by Judge Venning regarding applications for court regarding applications for court documents regarding applications for court documents concerning regarding applications for court documents concerning Karel regarding applications for court documents concerning Karel Sroubek documents concerning Karel Sroubek that documents concerning Karel Sroubek that said, documents concerning Karel Sroubek that said, "I documents concerning Karel Sroubek that said, "I am documents concerning Karel Sroubek that said, "I am satisfied documents concerning Karel Sroubek that said, "I am satisfied that documents concerning Karel Sroubek that said, "I am satisfied that the that said, "I am satisfied that the public that said, "I am satisfied that the public interest that said, "I am satisfied that the public interest in that said, "I am satisfied that the public interest in the that said, "I am satisfied that the public interest in the review that said, "I am satisfied that the public interest in the review of that said, "I am satisfied that the public interest in the review of Mr public interest in the review of Mr Antolik's public interest in the review of Mr Antolik's deportation public interest in the review of Mr Antolik's deportation status public interest in the review of Mr Antolik's deportation status being Antolik's deportation status being fully Antolik's deportation status being fully informed Antolik's deportation status being fully informed outweighs Antolik's deportation status being fully informed outweighs any Antolik's deportation status being fully informed outweighs any issues fully informed outweighs any issues of fully informed outweighs any issues of privacy, fully informed outweighs any issues of privacy, particularly fully informed outweighs any issues of privacy, particularly given fully informed outweighs any issues of privacy, particularly given the of privacy, particularly given the publicity of privacy, particularly given the publicity concerning of privacy, particularly given the publicity concerning this of privacy, particularly given the publicity concerning this matter publicity concerning this matter "and publicity concerning this matter "and why publicity concerning this matter "and why does publicity concerning this matter "and why does he publicity concerning this matter "and why does he think publicity concerning this matter "and why does he think it's publicity concerning this matter "and why does he think it's OK publicity concerning this matter "and why does he think it's OK for "and why does he think it's OK for the "and why does he think it's OK for the courts "and why does he think it's OK for the courts to "and why does he think it's OK for the courts to see "and why does he think it's OK for the courts to see this "and why does he think it's OK for the courts to see this public the courts to see this public interest the courts to see this public interest but the courts to see this public interest but not the courts to see this public interest but not him? the courts to see this public interest but not him? 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As I said I don't see it in the public interest don't see it in the public interest to don't see it in the public interest to name don't see it in the public interest to name specific don't see it in the public interest to name specific individuals don't see it in the public interest to name specific individuals and don't see it in the public interest to name specific individuals and I to name specific individuals and I am to name specific individuals and I am not to name specific individuals and I am not going to name specific individuals and I am not going to to name specific individuals and I am not going to do to name specific individuals and I am not going to do it to name specific individuals and I am not going to do it by to name specific individuals and I am not going to do it by a to name specific individuals and I am not going to do it by a process am not going to do it by a process of am not going to do it by a process of elimination, am not going to do it by a process of elimination, either. of elimination, either. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Question <INTERRUPTION> Question Number <INTERRUPTION> Question Number 10. 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Once that process is complete, detailed costings will be complete, detailed costings will be prepared complete, detailed costings will be prepared to complete, detailed costings will be prepared to inform complete, detailed costings will be prepared to inform the prepared to inform the decision-making prepared to inform the decision-making process. prepared to inform the decision-making process. Is prepared to inform the decision-making process. Is he decision-making process. Is he really decision-making process. Is he really confirming decision-making process. Is he really confirming that decision-making process. Is he really confirming that the decision-making process. Is he really confirming that the taskforce really confirming that the taskforce did really confirming that the taskforce did no really confirming that the taskforce did no work really confirming that the taskforce did no work on really confirming that the taskforce did no work on costings really confirming that the taskforce did no work on costings and really confirming that the taskforce did no work on costings and that really confirming that the taskforce did no work on costings and that no did no work on costings and that no Government did no work on costings and that no Government agencies did no work on costings and that no Government agencies have did no work on costings and that no Government agencies have given did no work on costings and that no Government agencies have given any Government agencies have given any formal Government agencies have given any formal view Government agencies have given any formal view on Government agencies have given any formal view on what Government agencies have given any formal view on what the Government agencies have given any formal view on what the proposals formal view on what the proposals will formal view on what the proposals will cost? formal view on what the proposals will cost? 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The proposals the taskforce have for discussion. The proposals the taskforce have put for discussion. The proposals the taskforce have put forward for discussion. The proposals the taskforce have put forward are for discussion. The proposals the taskforce have put forward are bold, taskforce have put forward are bold, and taskforce have put forward are bold, and I taskforce have put forward are bold, and I certainly taskforce have put forward are bold, and I certainly look taskforce have put forward are bold, and I certainly look forward taskforce have put forward are bold, and I certainly look forward to taskforce have put forward are bold, and I certainly look forward to the and I certainly look forward to the conversation and I certainly look forward to the conversation about and I certainly look forward to the conversation about whether and I certainly look forward to the conversation about whether or and I certainly look forward to the conversation about whether or not conversation about whether or not there conversation about whether or not there is conversation about whether or not there is acceptance conversation about whether or not there is acceptance that conversation about whether or not there is acceptance that that's conversation about whether or not there is acceptance that that's the there is acceptance that that's the right there is acceptance that that's the right way there is acceptance that that's the right way to there is acceptance that that's the right way to go. there is acceptance that that's the right way to go. 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One of the things that the taskforce found was that parents the taskforce found was that parents who the taskforce found was that parents who serve the taskforce found was that parents who serve on the taskforce found was that parents who serve on boards the taskforce found was that parents who serve on boards of the taskforce found was that parents who serve on boards of trustees the taskforce found was that parents who serve on boards of trustees have who serve on boards of trustees have often who serve on boards of trustees have often found who serve on boards of trustees have often found that who serve on boards of trustees have often found that the who serve on boards of trustees have often found that the job who serve on boards of trustees have often found that the job is who serve on boards of trustees have often found that the job is much often found that the job is much bigger often found that the job is much bigger than often found that the job is much bigger than they often found that the job is much bigger than they thought often found that the job is much bigger than they thought they often found that the job is much bigger than they thought they were bigger than they thought they were taking bigger than they thought they were taking on bigger than they thought they were taking on when bigger than they thought they were taking on when they bigger than they thought they were taking on when they do bigger than they thought they were taking on when they do it. bigger than they thought they were taking on when they do it. 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The they thought they were putting their hands up for. The public they thought they were putting their hands up for. The public submissions hands up for. The public submissions process hands up for. The public submissions process is hands up for. The public submissions process is an hands up for. The public submissions process is an opportunity hands up for. The public submissions process is an opportunity to hands up for. The public submissions process is an opportunity to have process is an opportunity to have all process is an opportunity to have all of process is an opportunity to have all of those process is an opportunity to have all of those conversations. process is an opportunity to have all of those conversations. I process is an opportunity to have all of those conversations. I do all of those conversations. I do acknowledge all of those conversations. I do acknowledge the all of those conversations. I do acknowledge the concerns all of those conversations. I do acknowledge the concerns the all of those conversations. I do acknowledge the concerns the member acknowledge the concerns the member has acknowledge the concerns the member has raised acknowledge the concerns the member has raised about acknowledge the concerns the member has raised about the acknowledge the concerns the member has raised about the importance acknowledge the concerns the member has raised about the importance of has raised about the importance of ensuring has raised about the importance of ensuring that has raised about the importance of ensuring that parents has raised about the importance of ensuring that parents don't has raised about the importance of ensuring that parents don't feel ensuring that parents don't feel disempowered ensuring that parents don't feel disempowered through ensuring that parents don't feel disempowered through this ensuring that parents don't feel disempowered through this process. ensuring that parents don't feel disempowered through this process. I disempowered through this process. I agree disempowered through this process. I agree with disempowered through this process. I agree with that, disempowered through this process. I agree with that, I disempowered through this process. I agree with that, I think disempowered through this process. I agree with that, I think it's agree with that, I think it's incredibly agree with that, I think it's incredibly important agree with that, I think it's incredibly important that agree with that, I think it's incredibly important that we incredibly important that we continue incredibly important that we continue to incredibly important that we continue to empower incredibly important that we continue to empower parents incredibly important that we continue to empower parents and continue to empower parents and their continue to empower parents and their involvement continue to empower parents and their involvement in continue to empower parents and their involvement in their continue to empower parents and their involvement in their kids' their involvement in their kids' education. their involvement in their kids' education. That's their involvement in their kids' education. That's one their involvement in their kids' education. That's one of their involvement in their kids' education. That's one of the their involvement in their kids' education. That's one of the things education. That's one of the things that education. That's one of the things that this education. That's one of the things that this Government education. That's one of the things that this Government will education. That's one of the things that this Government will be education. That's one of the things that this Government will be looking that this Government will be looking at that this Government will be looking at very that this Government will be looking at very closely that this Government will be looking at very closely as that this Government will be looking at very closely as we that this Government will be looking at very closely as we consider that this Government will be looking at very closely as we consider the at very closely as we consider the public at very closely as we consider the public submissions at very closely as we consider the public submissions process. at very closely as we consider the public submissions process. Question public submissions process. Question No. public submissions process. Question No. 11. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Commerce My question is to the Minister of Commerce and My question is to the Minister of Commerce and Consumer My question is to the Minister of Commerce and Consumer Affairs: My question is to the Minister of Commerce and Consumer Affairs: What Commerce and Consumer Affairs: What recent Commerce and Consumer Affairs: What recent announcements Commerce and Consumer Affairs: What recent announcements has Commerce and Consumer Affairs: What recent announcements has he Commerce and Consumer Affairs: What recent announcements has he made Commerce and Consumer Affairs: What recent announcements has he made to recent announcements has he made to protect recent announcements has he made to protect consumers recent announcements has he made to protect consumers and recent announcements has he made to protect consumers and businesses protect consumers and businesses from protect consumers and businesses from unfair protect consumers and businesses from unfair commercial protect consumers and businesses from unfair commercial practices? On On Monday, On Monday, the On Monday, the Minister On Monday, the Minister for On Monday, the Minister for Small On Monday, the Minister for Small Business, On Monday, the Minister for Small Business, Stuart On Monday, the Minister for Small Business, Stuart Nash, On Monday, the Minister for Small Business, Stuart Nash, and On Monday, the Minister for Small Business, Stuart Nash, and I On Monday, the Minister for Small Business, Stuart Nash, and I were Business, Stuart Nash, and I were pleased Business, Stuart Nash, and I were pleased to Business, Stuart Nash, and I were pleased to release Business, Stuart Nash, and I were pleased to release a Business, Stuart Nash, and I were pleased to release a discussion pleased to release a discussion paper pleased to release a discussion paper outlining pleased to release a discussion paper outlining options pleased to release a discussion paper outlining options to pleased to release a discussion paper outlining options to protect paper outlining options to protect consumers paper outlining options to protect consumers and paper outlining options to protect consumers and businesses paper outlining options to protect consumers and businesses from paper outlining options to protect consumers and businesses from unfair consumers and businesses from unfair commercial consumers and businesses from unfair commercial practices consumers and businesses from unfair commercial practices and consumers and businesses from unfair commercial practices and contract commercial practices and contract terms. commercial practices and contract terms. Existing commercial practices and contract terms. Existing provisions commercial practices and contract terms. Existing provisions of commercial practices and contract terms. Existing provisions of the terms. Existing provisions of the fair terms. Existing provisions of the fair trading terms. Existing provisions of the fair trading Act terms. Existing provisions of the fair trading Act and terms. Existing provisions of the fair trading Act and Commerce terms. Existing provisions of the fair trading Act and Commerce Act fair trading Act and Commerce Act protect fair trading Act and Commerce Act protect consumers fair trading Act and Commerce Act protect consumers and fair trading Act and Commerce Act protect consumers and businesses protect consumers and businesses against protect consumers and businesses against a protect consumers and businesses against a range protect consumers and businesses against a range of protect consumers and businesses against a range of unfair protect consumers and businesses against a range of unfair commercial against a range of unfair commercial practices against a range of unfair commercial practices but against a range of unfair commercial practices but the against a range of unfair commercial practices but the Government against a range of unfair commercial practices but the Government wants practices but the Government wants to practices but the Government wants to plug practices but the Government wants to plug gaps practices but the Government wants to plug gaps in practices but the Government wants to plug gaps in the practices but the Government wants to plug gaps in the current to plug gaps in the current protections to plug gaps in the current protections because to plug gaps in the current protections because small to plug gaps in the current protections because small and protections because small and medium-sized protections because small and medium-sized businesses protections because small and medium-sized businesses and medium-sized businesses and consumers medium-sized businesses and consumers have medium-sized businesses and consumers have highlighted medium-sized businesses and consumers have highlighted issues. consumers have highlighted issues. What consumers have highlighted issues. What types consumers have highlighted issues. What types of consumers have highlighted issues. What types of unfair consumers have highlighted issues. What types of unfair commercial What types of unfair commercial practices What types of unfair commercial practices are What types of unfair commercial practices are of What types of unfair commercial practices are of most What types of unfair commercial practices are of most concern? What types of unfair commercial practices are of most concern? For practices are of most concern? For consumers, practices are of most concern? For consumers, examples practices are of most concern? For consumers, examples of practices are of most concern? For consumers, examples of unfair consumers, examples of unfair practices consumers, examples of unfair practices include consumers, examples of unfair practices include traders consumers, examples of unfair practices include traders using practices include traders using aggressive practices include traders using aggressive sales practices include traders using aggressive sales tactics practices include traders using aggressive sales tactics to practices include traders using aggressive sales tactics to sell aggressive sales tactics to sell products aggressive sales tactics to sell products to aggressive sales tactics to sell products to vulnerable aggressive sales tactics to sell products to vulnerable consumers aggressive sales tactics to sell products to vulnerable consumers or products to vulnerable consumers or selling products to vulnerable consumers or selling products products to vulnerable consumers or selling products to products to vulnerable consumers or selling products to consumers selling products to consumers without selling products to consumers without clearly selling products to consumers without clearly specifying selling products to consumers without clearly specifying the selling products to consumers without clearly specifying the total without clearly specifying the total price. without clearly specifying the total price. For without clearly specifying the total price. For businesses, without clearly specifying the total price. For businesses, examples without clearly specifying the total price. For businesses, examples of price. For businesses, examples of unfair price. For businesses, examples of unfair practices price. For businesses, examples of unfair practices include price. For businesses, examples of unfair practices include contract unfair practices include contract terms unfair practices include contract terms that unfair practices include contract terms that unreasonably unfair practices include contract terms that unreasonably risk unfair practices include contract terms that unreasonably risk on unfair practices include contract terms that unreasonably risk on to terms that unreasonably risk on to one terms that unreasonably risk on to one party terms that unreasonably risk on to one party of terms that unreasonably risk on to one party of a terms that unreasonably risk on to one party of a contract, terms that unreasonably risk on to one party of a contract, the terms that unreasonably risk on to one party of a contract, the use terms that unreasonably risk on to one party of a contract, the use of one party of a contract, the use of extended one party of a contract, the use of extended payment one party of a contract, the use of extended payment terms one party of a contract, the use of extended payment terms and extended payment terms and businesses extended payment terms and businesses not extended payment terms and businesses not complying extended payment terms and businesses not complying with businesses not complying with contract businesses not complying with contract terms. businesses not complying with contract terms. I'd businesses not complying with contract terms. I'd like businesses not complying with contract terms. I'd like to businesses not complying with contract terms. I'd like to thank contract terms. I'd like to thank some contract terms. I'd like to thank some of contract terms. I'd like to thank some of the contract terms. I'd like to thank some of the entities contract terms. I'd like to thank some of the entities who contract terms. I'd like to thank some of the entities who have contract terms. I'd like to thank some of the entities who have given some of the entities who have given us some of the entities who have given us feedback, some of the entities who have given us feedback, for some of the entities who have given us feedback, for example some of the entities who have given us feedback, for example the some of the entities who have given us feedback, for example the food us feedback, for example the food and us feedback, for example the food and grocery us feedback, for example the food and grocery council, us feedback, for example the food and grocery council, who us feedback, for example the food and grocery council, who have us feedback, for example the food and grocery council, who have said and grocery council, who have said this and grocery council, who have said this is and grocery council, who have said this is a and grocery council, who have said this is a pro-business and grocery council, who have said this is a pro-business move and grocery council, who have said this is a pro-business move and this is a pro-business move and there this is a pro-business move and there was this is a pro-business move and there was a this is a pro-business move and there was a need this is a pro-business move and there was a need to this is a pro-business move and there was a need to strengthen this is a pro-business move and there was a need to strengthen New there was a need to strengthen New Zealand's there was a need to strengthen New Zealand's business there was a need to strengthen New Zealand's business law there was a need to strengthen New Zealand's business law dealing there was a need to strengthen New Zealand's business law dealing with Zealand's business law dealing with unfair Zealand's business law dealing with unfair practices Zealand's business law dealing with unfair practices and Zealand's business law dealing with unfair practices and these Zealand's business law dealing with unfair practices and these proposals unfair practices and these proposals would unfair practices and these proposals would go unfair practices and these proposals would go a unfair practices and these proposals would go a long unfair practices and these proposals would go a long way unfair practices and these proposals would go a long way towards would go a long way towards achieving would go a long way towards achieving that. would go a long way towards achieving that. What would go a long way towards achieving that. What else would go a long way towards achieving that. What else is would go a long way towards achieving that. What else is the achieving that. What else is the Government achieving that. What else is the Government doing achieving that. What else is the Government doing to achieving that. What else is the Government doing to address achieving that. What else is the Government doing to address poor Government doing to address poor commercial Government doing to address poor commercial conduct Government doing to address poor commercial conduct and Government doing to address poor commercial conduct and support commercial conduct and support honest commercial conduct and support honest business commercial conduct and support honest business in commercial conduct and support honest business in New commercial conduct and support honest business in New Zealand? commercial conduct and support honest business in New Zealand? 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Has he made further inquiries with his further inquiries with his colleague, further inquiries with his colleague, the further inquiries with his colleague, the Hon further inquiries with his colleague, the Hon Willie further inquiries with his colleague, the Hon Willie Jackson, colleague, the Hon Willie Jackson, about colleague, the Hon Willie Jackson, about the colleague, the Hon Willie Jackson, about the Maori colleague, the Hon Willie Jackson, about the Maori Authority colleague, the Hon Willie Jackson, about the Maori Authority and colleague, the Hon Willie Jackson, about the Maori Authority and any about the Maori Authority and any dividends about the Maori Authority and any dividends he about the Maori Authority and any dividends he may about the Maori Authority and any dividends he may or about the Maori Authority and any dividends he may or may about the Maori Authority and any dividends he may or may not about the Maori Authority and any dividends he may or may not have dividends he may or may not have received dividends he may or may not have received from dividends he may or may not have received from incentive dividends he may or may not have received from incentive payments received from incentive payments following received from incentive payments following yesterday's received from incentive payments following yesterday's question received from incentive payments following yesterday's question in following yesterday's question in the following yesterday's question in the House. following yesterday's question in the House. No. following yesterday's question in the House. No. OK. following yesterday's question in the House. No. OK. When following yesterday's question in the House. No. OK. When was following yesterday's question in the House. No. OK. When was he following yesterday's question in the House. No. OK. When was he first the House. No. OK. When was he first made the House. No. OK. When was he first made aware the House. No. OK. When was he first made aware of the House. No. OK. When was he first made aware of his the House. No. OK. 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