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Once the Cabinet has statements here in this House. Once the Cabinet has finalised statements here in this House. Once the Cabinet has finalised its the Cabinet has finalised its decisions the Cabinet has finalised its decisions we the Cabinet has finalised its decisions we will the Cabinet has finalised its decisions we will be the Cabinet has finalised its decisions we will be releasing the Cabinet has finalised its decisions we will be releasing all decisions we will be releasing all of decisions we will be releasing all of the decisions we will be releasing all of the details decisions we will be releasing all of the details in decisions we will be releasing all of the details in that decisions we will be releasing all of the details in that regard. of the details in that regard. Question of the details in that regard. Question no. of the details in that regard. Question no. No. of the details in that regard. Question no. No. 4, of the details in that regard. Question no. No. 4, the of the details in that regard. Question no. No. 4, the Hon of the details in that regard. Question no. No. 4, the Hon Paul Question no. No. 4, the Hon Paul Goldsmith. Question no. No. 4, the Hon Paul Goldsmith. Thank Question no. No. 4, the Hon Paul Goldsmith. Thank you, Question no. No. 4, the Hon Paul Goldsmith. Thank you, Mr Question no. No. 4, the Hon Paul Goldsmith. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: Finance: Is Finance: Is the Finance: Is the Government Finance: Is the Government focused Is the Government focused on Is the Government focused on policies Is the Government focused on policies that Is the Government focused on policies that will Is the Government focused on policies that will help Is the Government focused on policies that will help grow Is the Government focused on policies that will help grow the on policies that will help grow the New on policies that will help grow the New Zealand on policies that will help grow the New Zealand economy on policies that will help grow the New Zealand economy and on policies that will help grow the New Zealand economy and provide on policies that will help grow the New Zealand economy and provide more New Zealand economy and provide more opportunities New Zealand economy and provide more opportunities for New Zealand economy and provide more opportunities for New New Zealand economy and provide more opportunities for New Zealanders? The The Hon The Hon Dr The Hon Dr David The Hon Dr David Clark. The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, on The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, on behalf The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, on behalf of The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, on behalf of the The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister, The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister, yes. The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister, yes. Does on behalf of the Minister, yes. Does he on behalf of the Minister, yes. Does he accept on behalf of the Minister, yes. Does he accept that on behalf of the Minister, yes. Does he accept that jobs, on behalf of the Minister, yes. Does he accept that jobs, higher on behalf of the Minister, yes. Does he accept that jobs, higher incomes, he accept that jobs, higher incomes, opportunities he accept that jobs, higher incomes, opportunities mainly he accept that jobs, higher incomes, opportunities mainly flow he accept that jobs, higher incomes, opportunities mainly flow from opportunities mainly flow from someone, opportunities mainly flow from on opportunities mainly flow from someone, somewhere making opportunities mainly flow from someone, somewhere making an someone, somewhere making an investment? someone, somewhere making an investment? Mr someone, somewhere making an investment? Mr Speaker, someone, somewhere making an investment? Mr Speaker, yes, someone, somewhere making an investment? Mr Speaker, yes, they someone, somewhere making an investment? Mr Speaker, yes, they do investment? Mr Speaker, yes, they do and investment? Mr Speaker, yes, they do and that's investment? Mr Speaker, yes, they do and that's why investment? Mr Speaker, yes, they do and that's why I'm investment? Mr Speaker, yes, they do and that's why I'm pleased investment? Mr Speaker, yes, they do and that's why I'm pleased to investment? Mr Speaker, yes, they do and that's why I'm pleased to note and that's why I'm pleased to note that and that's why I'm pleased to note that GDP and that's why I'm pleased to note that GDP figures and that's why I'm pleased to note that GDP figures show and that's why I'm pleased to note that GDP figures show that and that's why I'm pleased to note that GDP figures show that business that GDP figures show that business investment that GDP figures show that business investment rose that GDP figures show that business investment rose 4. that GDP figures show that business investment rose 4. 3% that GDP figures show that business investment rose 4. 3% in that GDP figures show that business investment rose 4. 3% in 2018 that GDP figures show that business investment rose 4. 3% in 2018 when investment rose 4. 3% in 2018 when annual investment rose 4. 3% in 2018 when annual average investment rose 4. 3% in 2018 when annual average GDP investment rose 4. 3% in 2018 when annual average GDP growth investment rose 4. 3% in 2018 when annual average GDP growth was investment rose 4. 3% in 2018 when annual average GDP growth was 2.8%. annual average GDP growth was 2.8%. So, annual average GDP growth was 2.8%. So, business annual average GDP growth was 2.8%. So, business investment annual average GDP growth was 2.8%. So, business investment is annual average GDP growth was 2.8%. So, business investment is holding So, business investment is holding up. So, business investment is holding up. Interesting. So, business investment is holding up. Interesting. Does So, business investment is holding up. Interesting. Does he So, business investment is holding up. Interesting. Does he accept So, business investment is holding up. Interesting. Does he accept the up. Interesting. Does he accept the uncertainty up. Interesting. Does he accept the uncertainty around up. Interesting. Does he accept the uncertainty around fundamental up. Interesting. Does he accept the uncertainty around fundamental tax uncertainty around fundamental tax policy uncertainty around fundamental tax policy and uncertainty around fundamental tax policy and many uncertainty around fundamental tax policy and many areas uncertainty around fundamental tax policy and many areas of uncertainty around fundamental tax policy and many areas of regulation policy and many areas of regulation may policy and many areas of regulation may at policy and many areas of regulation may at least policy and many areas of regulation may at least partially policy and many areas of regulation may at least partially explain policy and many areas of regulation may at least partially explain the may at least partially explain the results may at least partially explain the results in may at least partially explain the results in the may at least partially explain the results in the latest may at least partially explain the results in the latest NZINER may at least partially explain the results in the latest NZINER survey results in the latest NZINER survey on results in the latest NZINER survey on investment results in the latest NZINER survey on investment intentions, results in the latest NZINER survey on investment intentions, which on investment intentions, which showed on investment intentions, which So, on investment intentions, which showed investment intentions on investment intentions, which showed investment intentions in showed investment intentions in plant showed investment intentions in plant and showed investment intentions in plant and machinery showed investment intentions in plant and machinery fell showed investment intentions in plant and machinery fell negative plant and machinery fell negative for plant and machinery fell negative for the plant and machinery fell negative for the first plant and machinery fell negative for the first time plant and machinery fell negative for the first time since plant and machinery fell negative for the first time since 2012? plant and machinery fell negative for the first time since 2012? Mr for the first time since 2012? Mr Speaker, for the first time since 2012? Mr Speaker, in for the first time since 2012? Mr Speaker, in terms for the first time since 2012? Mr Speaker, in terms of for the first time since 2012? Mr Speaker, in terms of tax for the first time since 2012? Mr Speaker, in terms of tax policy for the first time since 2012? Mr Speaker, in terms of tax policy - for the first time since 2012? Mr Speaker, in terms of tax policy - I Speaker, in terms of tax policy - I mean, Speaker, in terms of tax policy - I mean, the Speaker, in terms of tax policy - I mean, the Government Speaker, in terms of tax policy - I mean, the Government is Speaker, in terms of tax policy - I mean, the Government is carefully mean, the Government is carefully considering mean, the Government is carefully considering the mean, the Government is carefully considering the independent mean, the Government is carefully considering the independent tax considering the independent tax working considering the independent tax working group considering the independent tax working group report considering the independent tax working group report and considering the independent tax working group report and our working group report and our response working group report and our response will working group report and our response will be working group report and our response will be released working group report and our response will be released this response will be released this month. response will be released this month. Is response will be released this month. Is the response will be released this month. Is the Government response will be released this month. Is the Government 's response will be released this month. Is the Government 's plan response will be released this month. Is the Government 's plan to month. Is the Government 's plan to blame month. Is the Government 's plan to blame the month. Is the Government 's plan to blame the zero month. Is the Government 's plan to blame the zero growth month. Is the Government 's plan to blame the zero growth per month. Is the Government 's plan to blame the zero growth per person month. Is the Government 's plan to blame the zero growth per person in blame the zero growth per person in the blame the zero growth per person in the past blame the zero growth per person in the past six blame the zero growth per person in the past six months blame the zero growth per person in the past six months on blame the zero growth per person in the past six months on international the past six months on international events? the past six months on international events? Mr the past six months on international events? Mr Speaker, the past six months on international events? Mr Speaker, no. the past six months on international events? Mr Speaker, no. The the past six months on international events? Mr Speaker, no. The member events? Mr Speaker, no. The member does events? Mr Speaker, no. The member does need, events? Mr Speaker, no. The member does need, though, events? Mr Speaker, no. The member does need, though, to events? Mr Speaker, no. The member does need, though, to look events? Mr Speaker, no. The member does need, though, to look at events? Mr Speaker, no. The member does need, though, to look at the does need, though, to look at the New does need, though, to look at the New Zealand does need, though, to look at the New Zealand economy does need, though, to look at the New Zealand economy in does need, though, to look at the New Zealand economy in the does need, though, to look at the New Zealand economy in the global New Zealand economy in the global context. New Zealand economy in the global context. The New Zealand economy in the global context. The IMF New Zealand economy in the global context. The IMF overnight New Zealand economy in the global context. The IMF overnight released context. The IMF overnight released revised context. The IMF overnight released revised forecasts context. The IMF overnight released revised forecasts for context. The IMF overnight released revised forecasts for global context. The IMF overnight released revised forecasts for global growth, revised forecasts for global growth, and revised forecasts for global growth, and the revised forecasts for global growth, and the IMF revised forecasts for global growth, and the IMF forecasts revised forecasts for global growth, and the IMF forecasts for revised forecasts for global growth, and the IMF forecasts for advanced and the IMF forecasts for advanced economies and the IMF forecasts for advanced economies to and the IMF forecasts for advanced economies to grow and the IMF forecasts for advanced economies to grow 1.8% and the IMF forecasts for advanced economies to grow 1.8% in and the IMF forecasts for advanced economies to grow 1.8% in 2019 and the IMF forecasts for advanced economies to grow 1.8% in 2019 and economies to grow 1.8% in 2019 and 1. economies to grow 1.8% in 2019 and 1. 7% economies to grow 1.8% in 2019 and 1. 7% in economies to grow 1.8% in 2019 and 1. 7% in 2020. economies to grow 1.8% in 2019 and 1. 7% in 2020. In economies to grow 1.8% in 2019 and 1. 7% in 2020. In contrast, economies to grow 1.8% in 2019 and 1. 7% in 2020. In contrast, the economies to grow 1.8% in 2019 and 1. 7% in 2020. In contrast, the IMF 1. 7% in 2020. In contrast, the IMF forecasts 1. 7% in 2020. In contrast, the IMF forecasts New 1. 7% in 2020. In contrast, the IMF forecasts New Zealand's 1. 7% in 2020. In contrast, the IMF forecasts New Zealand's economy 1. 7% in 2020. In contrast, the IMF forecasts New Zealand's economy to forecasts New Zealand's economy to grow forecasts New Zealand's economy to grow at forecasts New Zealand's economy to grow at 2.5% forecasts New Zealand's economy to grow at 2.5% in forecasts New Zealand's economy to grow at 2.5% in 2019 forecasts New Zealand's economy to grow at 2.5% in 2019 and forecasts New Zealand's economy to grow at 2.5% in 2019 and 2. forecasts New Zealand's economy to grow at 2.5% in 2019 and 2. 9% forecasts New Zealand's economy to grow at 2.5% in 2019 and 2. 9% in grow at 2.5% in 2019 and 2. 9% in 2020. grow at 2.5% in 2019 and 2. 9% in 2020. The grow at 2.5% in 2019 and 2. 9% in 2020. The New grow at 2.5% in 2019 and 2. 9% in 2020. The New Zealand grow at 2.5% in 2019 and 2. 9% in 2020. The New Zealand economy grow at 2.5% in 2019 and 2. 9% in 2020. The New Zealand economy is 2020. The New Zealand economy is forecast 2020. The New Zealand economy is forecast to 2020. The New Zealand economy is forecast to grow 2020. The New Zealand economy is forecast to grow faster 2020. The New Zealand economy is forecast to grow faster than forecast to grow faster than Australia, forecast to grow faster than Australia, faster forecast to grow faster than Australia, faster than forecast to grow faster than Australia, faster than the forecast to grow faster than Australia, faster than the US, Australia, faster than the US, faster Australia, faster than the US, faster than Australia, faster than the US, faster than the Australia, faster than the US, faster than the euro Australia, faster than the US, faster than the euro area, Australia, faster than the US, faster than the euro area, faster faster than the euro area, faster than faster than the euro area, faster than Japan, faster than the euro area, faster than Japan, faster faster than the euro area, faster than Japan, faster than faster than the euro area, faster than Japan, faster than Singapore, than Japan, faster than Singapore, faster than Japan, faster than Singapore, faster than than Japan, faster than Singapore, faster than the than Japan, faster than Singapore, faster than the UK... than Japan, faster than Singapore, faster than the UK... 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How does he think the capital gains tax will think the capital gains tax will help think the capital gains tax will help grow think the capital gains tax will help grow investment think the capital gains tax will help grow investment in think the capital gains tax will help grow investment in New think the capital gains tax will help grow investment in New Zealand? help grow investment in New Zealand? Mr help grow investment in New Zealand? Mr Speaker, help grow investment in New Zealand? Mr Speaker, the help grow investment in New Zealand? Mr Speaker, the Government help grow investment in New Zealand? Mr Speaker, the Government is Mr Speaker, the Government is carefully Mr Speaker, the Government is carefully considering Mr Speaker, the Government is carefully considering the carefully considering the independent carefully considering the independent Tax carefully considering the independent Tax Working carefully considering the independent Tax Working Group's independent Tax Working Group's report independent Tax Working Group's report and independent Tax Working Group's report and our independent Tax Working Group's report and our response independent Tax Working Group's report and our response will independent Tax Working Group's report and our response will be report and our response will be released report and our response will be released this report and our response will be released this month. report and our response will be released this month. Question report and our response will be released this month. Question no. report and our response will be released this month. Question no. 5, released this month. Question no. 5, Priyanca released this month. Question no. 5, Priyanca Radhakrishnan. released this month. Question no. 5, Priyanca Radhakrishnan. Thank released this month. Question no. 5, Priyanca Radhakrishnan. Thank you, Priyanca Radhakrishnan. Thank you, Mr Priyanca Radhakrishnan. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Social My question is to the Minister for Social Development: Social Development: What Social Development: What recent Social Development: What recent announcements Social Development: What recent announcements has Social Development: What recent announcements has the What recent announcements has the Government What recent announcements has the Government made What recent announcements has the Government made to What recent announcements has the Government made to improve What recent announcements has the Government made to improve driver Government made to improve driver licensing Government made to improve driver licensing for Government made to improve driver licensing for young Government made to improve driver licensing for young people? The The Hon The Hon Carmel The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, today The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, today the The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, today the PM, The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, today the PM, along The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, today the PM, along with The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, today the PM, along with the today the PM, along with the Associate today the PM, along with the Associate Minister today the PM, along with the Associate Minister for today the PM, along with the Associate Minister for Transport, Associate Minister for Transport, and Associate Minister for Transport, and myself, Associate Minister for Transport, and myself, announced Associate Minister for Transport, and myself, announced an Associate Minister for Transport, and myself, announced an investment and myself, announced an investment to and myself, announced an investment to put and myself, announced an investment to put people and myself, announced an investment to put people on and myself, announced an investment to put people on youth and myself, announced an investment to put people on youth benefits and myself, announced an investment to put people on youth benefits or to put people on youth benefits or in to put people on youth benefits or in care to put people on youth benefits or in care to to put people on youth benefits or in care to meet to put people on youth benefits or in care to meet the to put people on youth benefits or in care to meet the costs to put people on youth benefits or in care to meet the costs of to put people on youth benefits or in care to meet the costs of getting in care to meet the costs of getting a in care to meet the costs of getting a driver's in care to meet the costs of getting a driver's licence. in care to meet the costs of getting a driver's licence. This in care to meet the costs of getting a driver's licence. This investment a driver's licence. This investment will a driver's licence. This investment will support a driver's licence. This investment will support approximately a driver's licence. This investment will support approximately 2,500 will support approximately 2,500 young will support approximately 2,500 young people will support approximately 2,500 young people to will support approximately 2,500 young people to get will support approximately 2,500 young people to get their will support approximately 2,500 young people to get their licence. young people to get their licence. We young people to get their licence. We know young people to get their licence. We know that young people to get their licence. We know that getting young people to get their licence. We know that getting a young people to get their licence. We know that getting a licence young people to get their licence. 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This Government is committed to supporting work and study. This Government is committed to supporting all work and study. This Government is committed to supporting all that work and study. This Government is committed to supporting all that are committed to supporting all that are able committed to supporting all that are able to committed to supporting all that are able to be committed to supporting all that are able to be earning, committed to supporting all that are able to be earning, learning, committed to supporting all that are able to be earning, learning, caring able to be earning, learning, caring or able to be earning, learning, caring or volunteering. able to be earning, learning, caring or volunteering. Under able to be earning, learning, caring or volunteering. Under this or volunteering. Under this initiative or volunteering. Under this initiative we'll or volunteering. Under this initiative we'll make or volunteering. Under this initiative we'll make it or volunteering. Under this initiative we'll make it easier or volunteering. Under this initiative we'll make it easier for initiative we'll make it easier for young initiative we'll make it easier for young people initiative we'll make it easier for young people to initiative we'll make it easier for young people to access initiative we'll make it easier for young people to access these young people to access these opportunities. young people to access these opportunities. Supplement. young people to access these opportunities. Supplement. How young people to access these opportunities. Supplement. How will opportunities. Supplement. How will the opportunities. Supplement. How will the scheme opportunities. Supplement. How will the scheme work? opportunities. Supplement. How will the scheme work? Mr opportunities. Supplement. How will the scheme work? Mr Speaker, opportunities. Supplement. How will the scheme work? Mr Speaker, the the scheme work? Mr Speaker, the youth the scheme work? Mr Speaker, the youth service the scheme work? Mr Speaker, the youth service will the scheme work? Mr Speaker, the youth service will deliver the scheme work? 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We know some of these people might not have a car to learn in, might not have a car to learn in, might might not have a car to learn in, might not might not have a car to learn in, might not have might not have a car to learn in, might not have suitable might not have suitable identification might not have suitable identification or might not have suitable identification or have might not have suitable identification or have a might not have suitable identification or have a family identification or have a family member identification or have a family identification identification or have a family member or friend identification or have a family member or friend to identification or have a family member or friend to learn identification or have a family member or friend to learn to identification or have a family member or friend to learn to drive. member or friend to learn to drive. The member or friend to learn to drive. The scheme member or friend to learn to drive. The scheme will member or friend to learn to drive. The scheme will cover member or friend to learn to drive. The scheme will cover costs member or friend to learn to drive. The scheme will cover costs for The scheme will cover costs for recovering The scheme will cover costs for recovering a The scheme will cover costs for recovering a birth The scheme will cover costs for recovering a birth certificate The scheme will cover costs for recovering a birth certificate where recovering a birth certificate where required recovering a birth certificate where required and recovering a birth certificate where required and for recovering a birth certificate where required and for fees. recovering a birth certificate where required and for fees. We recovering a birth certificate where required and for fees. We are required and for fees. We are confident required and for fees. We are confident it required and for fees. We are confident it will required and for fees. We are confident it will take required and for fees. We are confident it will take young required and for fees. We are confident it will take young people confident it will take young people a confident it will take young people a long confident it will take young people a long way. confident it will take young people a long way. Why confident it will take young people a long way. Why is confident it will take young people a long way. Why is this confident it will take young people a long way. Why is this important? a long way. Why is this important? Over a long way. Why is this important? Over the a long way. Why is this important? Over the last a long way. Why is this important? Over the last five a long way. Why is this important? Over the last five years, a long way. Why is this important? 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Last 165 fatal or serious injury cashes. Last year, 165 fatal or serious injury cashes. Last year, 3,520 165 fatal or serious injury cashes. Last year, 3,520 people 165 fatal or serious injury cashes. Last year, 3,520 people were Last year, 3,520 people were convicted Last year, 3,520 people were convicted for Last year, 3,520 people were convicted for driving Last year, 3,520 people were convicted for driving without Last year, 3,520 people were convicted for driving without a convicted for driving without a licence, convicted for driving without a licence, and convicted for driving without a licence, and 1,509 convicted for driving without a licence, and 1,509 of convicted for driving without a licence, and 1,509 of these convicted for driving without a licence, and 1,509 of these people licence, and 1,509 of these people were licence, and 1,509 of these people were aged licence, and 1,509 of these people were aged under licence, and 1,509 of these people were aged under 25. licence, and 1,509 of these people were aged under 25. Of licence, and 1,509 of these people were aged under 25. Of these, licence, and 1,509 of these people were aged under 25. Of these, 59% were aged under 25. Of these, 59% were were aged under 25. Of these, 59% were Maori, were aged under 25. Of these, 59% were Maori, and were aged under 25. Of these, 59% were Maori, and 16% were aged under 25. Of these, 59% were Maori, and 16% for were aged under 25. Of these, 59% were Maori, and 16% for Pacific were Maori, and 16% for Pacific Peoples. were Maori, and 16% for Pacific Peoples. For were Maori, and 16% for Pacific Peoples. For many, were Maori, and 16% for Pacific Peoples. For many, there were Maori, and 16% for Pacific Peoples. For many, there was were Maori, and 16% for Pacific Peoples. For many, there was their Peoples. For many, there was their first-ever Peoples. For many, there was their first-ever conviction. Peoples. For many, there was their first-ever conviction. Helping Peoples. For many, there was their first-ever conviction. Helping this first-ever conviction. Helping this group first-ever conviction. Helping this group of first-ever conviction. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Commerce My question is to the Minister of Commerce and My question is to the Minister of Commerce and Consumer My question is to the Minister of Commerce and Consumer Affairs: Commerce and Consumer Affairs: What Commerce and Consumer Affairs: What progress Commerce and Consumer Affairs: What progress has Commerce and Consumer Affairs: What progress has been Commerce and Consumer Affairs: What progress has been made Commerce and Consumer Affairs: What progress has been made with Commerce and Consumer Affairs: What progress has been made with the What progress has been made with the Government's What progress has been made with the Government's competition What progress has been made with the Government's competition law What progress has been made with the Government's competition law reform Government's competition law reform programme? The The Hon The Hon Kris The Hon Kris Faafoi. The Hon Kris Faafoi. Last The Hon Kris Faafoi. Last week The Hon Kris Faafoi. Last week we The Hon Kris Faafoi. Last week we made The Hon Kris Faafoi. Last week we made significant The Hon Kris Faafoi. Last week we made significant progress The Hon Kris Faafoi. Last week we made significant progress with made significant progress with changes made significant progress with What made significant progress with changes to the made significant progress with changes to the Commerce made significant progress with changes to the Commerce Act made significant progress with changes to the Commerce Act which changes to the Commerce Act which criminalised changes to the Commerce Act which criminalised cartel changes to the Commerce Act which criminalised cartel behaviour criminalised cartel behaviour passing criminalised cartel behaviour passing its criminalised cartel behaviour passing its third criminalised cartel behaviour passing its third reading. criminalised cartel behaviour passing its third reading. This criminalised cartel behaviour passing its third reading. This bill passing its third reading. This bill is passing its third reading. This bill is an passing its third reading. This bill is an important passing its third reading. This bill is an important element passing its third reading. This bill is an important element to passing its third reading. This bill is an important element to the is an important element to the government's is an important element to the government's reform is an important element to the government's reform package is an important element to the government's reform package to government's reform package to strengthen government's reform package to strengthen its government's reform package to strengthen its partnership government's reform package to strengthen its partnership with strengthen its partnership with allies. strengthen its partnership with allies. It strengthen its partnership with allies. It -- strengthen its partnership with allies. It -- cartel strengthen its partnership with allies. It -- cartel conduct strengthen its partnership with allies. It -- cartel conduct can allies. It -- cartel conduct can cause allies. It -- cartel conduct can cause significant allies. It -- cartel conduct can cause significant harm allies. It -- cartel conduct can cause significant harm to allies. It -- cartel conduct can cause significant harm to businesses cause significant harm to businesses and cause significant harm to businesses and consumers cause significant harm to businesses and consumers operating cause significant harm to businesses and consumers operating honestly. and consumers operating honestly. The and consumers operating honestly. The criminalising and consumers operating honestly. The criminalising of and consumers operating honestly. The criminalising of cartel The criminalising of cartel behaviour The criminalising of cartel behaviour is The criminalising of cartel behaviour is a The criminalising of cartel behaviour is a second The criminalising of cartel behaviour is a second legislative behaviour is a second legislative step behaviour is a second legislative step the behaviour is a second legislative step the Government behaviour is a second legislative step the Government has behaviour is a second legislative step the Government has taken behaviour is a second legislative step the Government has taken since step the Government has taken since coming step the Government has taken since coming into step the Government has taken since coming into the step the Government has taken since coming into the office. step the Government has taken since coming into the office. The step the Government has taken since coming into the office. The birth coming into the office. The birth being coming into the office. 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Will criminalising cartel behaviour have criminalising cartel behaviour have a criminalising cartel behaviour have section criminalising cartel behaviour have a chilling effect criminalising cartel behaviour have a chilling effect on criminalising cartel behaviour have a chilling effect on business? criminalising cartel behaviour have a chilling effect on business? Mr a chilling effect on business? Mr Speaker, a chilling effect on business? Mr Speaker, no, a chilling effect on business? Mr Speaker, no, nothing a chilling effect on business? Mr Speaker, no, nothing in a chilling effect on business? Mr Speaker, no, nothing in this a chilling effect on business? Mr Speaker, no, nothing in this bill Speaker, no, nothing in this bill extends Speaker, no, nothing in this bill extends what Speaker, no, nothing in this bill extends what is Speaker, no, nothing in this bill extends what is currently Speaker, no, nothing in this bill extends what is currently unlawful. extends what is currently unlawful. It extends what is currently unlawful. It evens extends what is currently unlawful. It evens out extends what is currently unlawful. It evens out the extends what is currently unlawful. It evens out the playing extends what is currently unlawful. It evens out the playing field extends what is currently unlawful. It evens out the playing field to It evens out the playing field to encourage It evens out the playing field to encourage competition It evens out the playing field to encourage competition while It evens out the playing field to encourage competition while at It evens out the playing field to encourage competition while at the encourage competition while at the same encourage competition while at the same time encourage competition while at the same time allowing encourage competition while at the same time allowing for encourage competition while at the same time allowing for reasonable same time allowing for reasonable collaborative same time allowing for reasonable collaborative business same time allowing for reasonable collaborative business activities. collaborative business activities. Honest collaborative business activities. Honest businesses collaborative business activities. Honest businesses should collaborative business activities. Honest businesses should not collaborative business activities. Honest businesses should not be Honest businesses should not be concerned. Honest businesses should not be concerned. I'm Honest businesses should not be concerned. I'm confident Honest businesses should not be concerned. I'm confident that Honest businesses should not be concerned. I'm confident that the concerned. I'm confident that the introduction concerned. I'm confident that the introduction of concerned. I'm confident that the introduction of criminalising introduction of criminalising cartels introduction of criminalising cartels has introduction of criminalising cartels has sufficient introduction of criminalising cartels has sufficient provisions introduction of criminalising cartels has sufficient provisions to cartels has sufficient provisions to ensure cartels has sufficient provisions to ensure legitimate cartels has sufficient provisions to ensure legitimate business cartels has sufficient provisions to ensure legitimate business practices ensure legitimate business practices won't ensure legitimate business practices cartels ensure legitimate business practices won't be penalised, ensure legitimate business practices won't be penalised, while ensure legitimate business practices won't be penalised, while at ensure legitimate business practices won't be penalised, while at the won't be penalised, while at the same won't be penalised, while at the same time won't be penalised, while at the same time sending won't be penalised, while at the same time sending a won't be penalised, while at the same time sending a strong same time sending a strong disincentive same time sending a strong disincentive for same time sending a strong disincentive for cartel same time sending a strong disincentive for cartel conduct. same time sending a strong disincentive for cartel conduct. Why disincentive for cartel conduct. Why are disincentive for cartel conduct. Why are these disincentive for cartel conduct. Why are these reforms disincentive for cartel conduct. Why are these reforms necessary? disincentive for cartel conduct. Why are these reforms necessary? Mr are these reforms necessary? Mr Speaker, are these reforms necessary? Mr Speaker, this are these reforms necessary? Mr Speaker, this Government are these reforms necessary? Mr Speaker, this Government supports Speaker, this Government supports honest Speaker, this Government supports honest business Speaker, this Government supports honest business and Speaker, this Government supports honest business and we're Speaker, this Government supports honest business and we're committed honest business and we're committed to honest business and we're committed to growing honest business and we're committed to growing an honest business and we're committed to growing an economy honest business and we're committed to growing an economy that honest business and we're committed to growing an economy that works honest business and we're committed to growing an economy that works for to growing an economy that works for all to growing an economy that works for all New to growing an economy that works for all New Zealanders. to growing an economy that works for all New Zealanders. The all New Zealanders. The criminalisation all New Zealanders. The criminalisation of all New Zealanders. The criminalisation of cartels all New Zealanders. The criminalisation of cartels delivers criminalisation of cartels delivers on criminalisation of cartels delivers on that criminalisation of cartels delivers on that by criminalisation of cartels delivers on that by introducing criminalisation of cartels delivers on that by introducing a criminalisation of cartels delivers on that by introducing a new on that by introducing a new criminal on that by introducing a new criminal offence, on that by introducing a new criminal offence, for on that by introducing a new criminal offence, for serious on that by introducing a new criminal offence, for serious cartel criminal offence, for serious cartel conduct criminal offence, for serious cartel criminal criminal offence, for serious cartel conduct that harms criminal offence, for serious cartel conduct that harms New criminal offence, for serious cartel conduct that harms New Zealand conduct that harms New Zealand business, conduct that harms New Zealand business, consumers conduct that harms New Zealand business, consumers and conduct that harms New Zealand business, consumers and the business, consumers and the productivity business, consumers and the productivity of business, consumers and the productivity of the business, consumers and the productivity of the economy. business, consumers and the productivity of the economy. It business, consumers and the productivity of the economy. It was productivity of the economy. It was necessary productivity of the economy. It was necessary for productivity of the economy. It was necessary for the productivity of the economy. It was necessary for the future productivity of the economy. It was necessary for the future integrity necessary for the future integrity of necessary for the future integrity of the necessary for the future integrity of the economy necessary for the future integrity of the economy to necessary for the future integrity of the economy to bring necessary for the future integrity of the economy to bring back necessary for the future integrity of the economy to bring back the of the economy to bring back the criminal of the economy to bring back the criminal offence of the economy to bring back the criminal offence for of the economy to bring back the criminal offence for cartel criminal offence for cartel behaviour criminal offence for cartel behaviour that criminal offence for cartel behaviour that was criminal offence for cartel behaviour that was dropped criminal offence for cartel behaviour that was dropped by criminal offence for cartel behaviour that was dropped by the behaviour that was dropped by the previous behaviour that was dropped by the previous Government. behaviour that was dropped by the previous Government. Question behaviour that was dropped by the previous Government. Question no. behaviour that was dropped by the previous Government. Question no. 8, previous Government. Question no. 8, the previous Government. Question no. 8, the Hon previous Government. Question no. 8, the Hon Paul previous Government. Question no. 8, the Hon Paul Goldsmith. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Regional My question is to the Minister for Regional Economic My question is to the Minister for Regional Economic Development: Regional Economic Development: Does Regional Economic Development: Does he Regional Economic Development: Does he stand Regional Economic Development: Does he stand by Regional Economic Development: Does he stand by all Regional Economic Development: Does he stand by all his Regional Economic Development: Does he stand by all his statements Does he stand by all his statements and Does he stand by all his statements and actions? The The Hon The Hon Shane The Hon Shane Jones. The Hon Shane Jones. Aye. The Hon Shane Jones. Aye. INTERPRETER: The Hon Shane Jones. Aye. INTERPRETER: Yes. The Hon Shane Jones. Aye. INTERPRETER: Yes. Does The Hon Shane Jones. Aye. INTERPRETER: Yes. Does he The Hon Shane Jones. Aye. INTERPRETER: Yes. Does he accept INTERPRETER: Yes. Does he accept that INTERPRETER: Yes. Does he accept that his INTERPRETER: Yes. Does he accept that his conversation INTERPRETER: Yes. Does he accept that his conversation with INTERPRETER: Yes. Does he accept that his conversation with the INTERPRETER: Yes. Does he accept that his conversation with the New that his conversation with the New Zealand that his conversation with the New Zealand agency that his conversation with the New Zealand agency CECCO that his conversation with the New Zealand agency CECCO was that his conversation with the New Zealand agency CECCO was about that his conversation with the New Zealand agency CECCO was about the Zealand agency CECCO was about the decisions Zealand agency CECCO was about the decisions and Zealand agency CECCO was about the decisions and the Zealand agency CECCO was about the decisions and the methods Zealand agency CECCO was about the decisions and the methods of Zealand agency CECCO was about the decisions and the methods of the decisions and the methods of the prosecutor decisions and the methods of the prosecutor in decisions and the methods of the prosecutor in the decisions and the methods of the prosecutor in the semioff decisions and the methods of the prosecutor in the semioff logging prosecutor in the semioff logging case? prosecutor in the semioff logging case? No. prosecutor in the semioff logging case? No. Can prosecutor in the semioff logging case? No. Can you prosecutor in the semioff logging case? No. Can you explain prosecutor in the semioff logging case? No. Can you explain how case? No. Can you explain how talking case? No. Can you explain how talking to case? No. Can you explain how talking to the case? No. Can you explain how talking to the CEO case? No. Can you explain how talking to the CEO about case? No. Can you explain how talking to the CEO about how case? No. Can you explain how talking to the CEO about how an talking to the CEO about how an element talking to the CEO about how an element of talking to the CEO about how an element of how talking to the CEO about how an element of how a talking to the CEO about how an element of how a case talking to the CEO about how an element of how a case was talking to the CEO about how an element of how a case was put element of how a case was put together element of how a case was put together is element of how a case was put together is not element of how a case was put together is not inserting element of how a case was put together is not inserting himself element of how a case was put together is not inserting himself as together is not inserting himself as a together is not inserting himself as a member together is not inserting himself as a member of together is not inserting himself as a member of the together is not inserting himself as a member of the executive together is not inserting himself as a member of the executive into together is not inserting himself as a member of the executive into the a member of the executive into the case? a member of the executive into the case? As a member of the executive into the case? As I a member of the executive into the case? As I understand, a member of the executive into the case? As I understand, the a member of the executive into the case? As I understand, the decision case? As I understand, the decision made case? As I understand, the decision made by case? As I understand, the decision made by NZTA case? As I understand, the decision made by NZTA to case? As I understand, the decision made by NZTA to announce case? As I understand, the decision made by NZTA to announce they case? As I understand, the decision made by NZTA to announce they were made by NZTA to announce they were going made by NZTA to announce they were going to made by NZTA to announce they were going to revoke made by NZTA to announce they were going to revoke a made by NZTA to announce they were going to revoke a decision made by NZTA to announce they were going to revoke a decision was made by NZTA to announce they were going to revoke a decision was on made by NZTA to announce they were going to revoke a decision was on 15 going to revoke a decision was on 15 March. going to revoke a decision was on 15 March. A going to revoke a decision was on 15 March. A court going to revoke a decision was on 15 March. A court case, going to revoke a decision was on 15 March. A court case, I going to revoke a decision was on 15 March. A court case, I think, going to revoke a decision was on 15 March. A court case, I think, might March. A court case, I think, might have March. A court case, I think, might have been March. A court case, I think, might have been 22 March. A court case, I think, might have been 22 March. March. A court case, I think, might have been 22 March. I March. A court case, I think, might have been 22 March. I had March. A court case, I think, might have been 22 March. I had a March. A court case, I think, might have been 22 March. I had a brief have been 22 March. I had a brief discussion, have been 22 March. I had a brief discussion, 10 have been 22 March. I had a brief discussion, 10 days have been 22 March. I had a brief discussion, 10 days after have been 22 March. I had a brief discussion, 10 days after that discussion, 10 days after that independent discussion, 10 days after that independent authority discussion, 10 days after that independent authority made discussion, 10 days after that independent authority made its independent authority made its decision, independent authority made its decision, and independent authority made its decision, and I independent authority made its decision, and I most independent authority made its decision, and I most certainly decision, and I most certainly reject decision, and I most certainly reject the decision, and I most certainly reject the assertion decision, and I most certainly reject the assertion that decision, and I most certainly reject the assertion that talking reject the assertion that talking about reject the assertion that talking about where reject the assertion that talking about where Meredith reject the assertion that talking about where Meredith Connell reject the assertion that talking about where Meredith Connell derive about where Meredith Connell derive their about where Meredith Connell derive their authority about where Meredith Connell derive their authority from about where Meredith Connell derive their authority from to about where Meredith Connell derive their authority from to offer about where Meredith Connell derive their authority from to offer to their authority from to offer to overseas their authority from to offer to overseas Filipino their authority from to offer to overseas Filipino migrant their authority from to offer to overseas Filipino migrant workers overseas Filipino migrant workers the overseas Filipino migrant workers about overseas Filipino migrant workers the opportunity to overseas Filipino migrant workers the opportunity to spy, overseas Filipino migrant workers the opportunity to spy, no, overseas Filipino migrant workers the opportunity to spy, no, I overseas Filipino migrant workers the opportunity to spy, no, I don't the opportunity to spy, no, I don't think the opportunity to spy, no, I don't think the the opportunity to spy, no, I don't think the two the opportunity to spy, no, I don't think the two are the opportunity to spy, no, I don't think the two are connected the opportunity to spy, no, I don't think the two are connected at the opportunity to spy, no, I don't think the two are connected at all. think the two are connected at all. Supplementary. think the two are connected at all. Supplementary. Can think the two are connected at all. Supplementary. Can I think the two are connected at all. Supplementary. Can I confirm, think the two are connected at all. Supplementary. Can I confirm, just Supplementary. Can I confirm, just checking Supplementary. Can I confirm, just checking my Supplementary. Can I confirm, just checking my maths, Supplementary. Can I confirm, just checking my maths, that Supplementary. Can I confirm, just checking my maths, that the Supplementary. Can I confirm, just checking my maths, that the Minister checking my maths, that the Minister is checking my maths, that the Minister is saying checking my maths, that the Minister is saying that checking my maths, that the Minister is saying that his checking my maths, that the Minister is saying that his conversation checking my maths, that the Minister is saying that his conversation with is saying that his conversation with the is saying that his conversation with the CEO is saying that his conversation with the CEO of is saying that his conversation with the CEO of NZTA is saying that his conversation with the CEO of NZTA was is saying that his conversation with the CEO of NZTA was 10 is saying that his conversation with the CEO of NZTA was 10 days is saying that his conversation with the CEO of NZTA was 10 days after is saying that his conversation with the CEO of NZTA was 10 days after 22 the CEO of NZTA was 10 days after 22 March? the CEO of NZTA was 10 days after 22 March? No. the CEO of NZTA was 10 days after 22 March? No. I the CEO of NZTA was 10 days after 22 March? No. I identified the CEO of NZTA was 10 days after 22 March? No. I identified that the CEO of NZTA was 10 days after 22 March? No. I identified that on the CEO of NZTA was 10 days after 22 March? No. I identified that on 15 March? No. I identified that on 15 March, March? No. I identified that on 15 March, in March? No. I identified that on 15 March, in the March? No. I identified that on 15 March, in the answer March? No. I identified that on 15 March, in the answer I've March? No. I identified that on 15 March, in the answer I've just March, in the answer I've just given, March, in the answer I've just given, that March, in the answer I've just given, that an March, in the answer I've just given, that an announcement March, in the answer I've just given, that an announcement was March, in the answer I've just given, that an announcement was made given, that an announcement was made about given, that an announcement was made about a given, that an announcement was made about a licence. given, that an announcement was made about a licence. I given, that an announcement was made about a licence. I had given, that an announcement was made about a licence. I had a given, that an announcement was made about a licence. I had a brief about a licence. I had a brief discussion about a licence. I had a brief discussion when about a licence. I had a brief discussion when I about a licence. I had a brief discussion when I returned about a licence. I had a brief discussion when I returned from about a licence. I had a brief discussion when I returned from Hong discussion when I returned from Hong Kong discussion when I returned from Hong Kong and discussion when I returned from Hong Kong and Singapore, discussion when I returned from Hong Kong and Singapore, with discussion when I returned from Hong Kong and Singapore, with Mr Kong and Singapore, with Mr Radcliffe, Kong and Singapore, with Mr Radcliffe, related Kong and Singapore, with Mr Radcliffe, related to Kong and Singapore, with Mr Radcliffe, related to where Kong and Singapore, with Mr Radcliffe, related to where did Kong and Singapore, with Mr Radcliffe, related to where did he Radcliffe, related to where did he think Radcliffe, related to where did he think the Radcliffe, related to where did he think the authority Radcliffe, related to where did he think the authority was Radcliffe, related to where did he think the authority was coming Radcliffe, related to where did he think the authority was coming from, think the authority was coming from, under think the authority was coming from, under what think the authority was coming from, under what legislation think the authority was coming from, under what legislation to think the authority was coming from, under what legislation to do think the authority was coming from, under what legislation to do this think the authority was coming from, under what legislation to do this to under what legislation to do this to migrant under what legislation to do this to migrant workers under what legislation to do this to migrant workers who under what legislation to do this to migrant workers who are under what legislation to do this to migrant workers who are employed under what legislation to do this to migrant workers who are employed all migrant workers who are employed all over migrant workers who are employed all over New migrant workers who are employed all over New Zealand? migrant workers who are employed all over New Zealand? Question migrant workers who are employed all over New Zealand? Question no. migrant workers who are employed all over New Zealand? Question no. 9, over New Zealand? Question no. 9, David over New Zealand? Question no. 9, David Seymour. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: Minister: Does Minister: Does she Minister: Does she stand Minister: Does she stand by Minister: Does she stand by her Does she stand by her statement Does she stand by her statement in Does she stand by her statement in relation Does she stand by her statement in relation to Does she stand by her statement in relation to gun Does she stand by her statement in relation to gun law statement in relation to gun law changes statement in relation to gun law changes that statement in relation to gun law changes that "It statement in relation to gun law changes that "It is statement in relation to gun law changes that "It is in statement in relation to gun law changes that "It is in the statement in relation to gun law changes that "It is in the national changes that "It is in the national interest changes that "It is in the national interest and changes that "It is in the national interest and it changes that "It is in the national interest and it is changes that "It is in the national interest and it is about changes that "It is in the national interest and it is about safety"? ? ? Mr ? Mr Speaker, ? Mr Speaker, yes. ? Mr Speaker, yes. Does ? Mr Speaker, yes. Does the ? Mr Speaker, yes. Does the PM ? Mr Speaker, yes. Does the PM believe ? Mr Speaker, yes. Does the PM believe that ? Mr Speaker, yes. Does the PM believe that a ? Mr Speaker, yes. Does the PM believe that a gun ? Mr Speaker, yes. Does the PM believe that a gun buyback ? Mr Speaker, yes. Does the PM believe that a gun buyback in believe that a gun buyback in relation believe that a gun buyback in relation to believe that a gun buyback in relation to these believe that a gun buyback in relation to these changes believe that a gun buyback in relation to these changes will believe that a gun buyback in relation to these changes will be relation to these changes will be more relation to these changes will be more successful relation to these changes will be more successful than relation to these changes will be more successful than those relation to these changes will be more successful than those in more successful than those in Australia, more successful than those in Australia, which more successful than those in Australia, which are more successful than those in Australia, which are estimated more successful than those in Australia, which are estimated to Australia, which are estimated to have Australia, which are estimated to have brought Australia, which are estimated to have brought back Australia, which are estimated to have brought back only Australia, which are estimated to have brought back only 40 Australia, which are estimated to have brought back only 40 to Australia, which are estimated to have brought back only 40 to 80% Australia, which are estimated to have brought back only 40 to 80% of have brought back only 40 to 80% of the have brought back only 40 to 80% of the semi-automatic have brought back only 40 to 80% of the semi-automatic weapons have brought back only 40 to 80% of the semi-automatic weapons in the semi-automatic weapons in circulation? the semi-automatic weapons in circulation? Mr the semi-automatic weapons in circulation? Mr Speaker, the semi-automatic weapons in circulation? Mr Speaker, it the semi-automatic weapons in circulation? Mr Speaker, it will the semi-automatic weapons in circulation? Mr Speaker, it will be circulation? Mr Speaker, it will be very circulation? Mr Speaker, it will be very hard circulation? Mr Speaker, it will be very hard to circulation? Mr Speaker, it will be very hard to assess circulation? Mr Speaker, it will be very hard to assess the circulation? Mr Speaker, it will be very hard to assess the percentage very hard to assess the percentage of very hard to assess the percentage of military-style very hard to assess the percentage of military-style semi-automatic of military-style semi-automatic weapons of military-style semi-automatic weapons and of military-style semi-automatic weapons and assault of military-style semi-automatic weapons and assault rifles of military-style semi-automatic weapons and assault rifles that of military-style semi-automatic weapons and assault rifles that we weapons and assault rifles that we will weapons and assault rifles that we will be weapons and assault rifles that we will be able weapons and assault rifles that we will be able to weapons and assault rifles that we will be able to bring weapons and assault rifles that we will be able to bring in weapons and assault rifles that we will be able to bring in as weapons and assault rifles that we will be able to bring in as a weapons and assault rifles that we will be able to bring in as a result will be able to bring in as a result of will be able to bring in as a result of the will be able to bring in as a result of the buyback will be able to bring in as a result of the buyback because, will be able to bring in as a result of the buyback because, of will be able to bring in as a result of the buyback because, of course, of the buyback because, of course, our of the buyback because, of course, our gun of the buyback because, of course, our gun laws, of the buyback because, of course, our gun laws, as of the buyback because, of course, our gun laws, as they of the buyback because, of course, our gun laws, as they are, of the buyback because, of course, our gun laws, as they are, means of the buyback because, of course, our gun laws, as they are, means the our gun laws, as they are, means the very our gun laws, as they are, means the very hard our gun laws, as they are, means the very hard for our gun laws, as they are, means the very hard for us our gun laws, as they are, means the very hard for us to our gun laws, as they are, means the very hard for us to quantify our gun laws, as they are, means the very hard for us to quantify just very hard for us to quantify just how very hard for us to quantify just how many very hard for us to quantify just how many of very hard for us to quantify just how many of those very hard for us to quantify just how many of those weapons very hard for us to quantify just how many of those weapons precisely how many of those weapons precisely are how many of those weapons precisely are in how many of those weapons precisely are in circulation. how many of those weapons precisely are in circulation. Supplementary. are in circulation. Supplementary. Is are in circulation. Supplementary. Is the are in circulation. Supplementary. Is the PM are in circulation. Supplementary. Is the PM then are in circulation. Supplementary. Is the PM then conceding are in circulation. Supplementary. Is the PM then conceding that are in circulation. Supplementary. Is the PM then conceding that one are in circulation. Supplementary. Is the PM then conceding that one of Is the PM then conceding that one of the Is the PM then conceding that one of the impacts Is the PM then conceding that one of the impacts of Is the PM then conceding that one of the impacts of her Is the PM then conceding that one of the impacts of her gun Is the PM then conceding that one of the impacts of her gun law Is the PM then conceding that one of the impacts of her gun law changes the impacts of her gun law changes may the impacts of her gun law changes may be the impacts of her gun law changes may be a the impacts of her gun law changes may be a larger the impacts of her gun law changes may be a larger black the impacts of her gun law changes may be a larger black market the impacts of her gun law changes may be a larger black market of may be a larger black market of dangerous may be a larger black market of dangerous semi-automatic may be a larger black market of dangerous semi-automatic weapons dangerous semi-automatic weapons outside dangerous semi-automatic weapons outside any dangerous semi-automatic weapons outside any regulatory dangerous semi-automatic weapons outside any regulatory cordon outside any regulatory cordon whatsoever, outside any regulatory cordon whatsoever, and outside any regulatory cordon whatsoever, and she outside any regulatory cordon whatsoever, and she just outside any regulatory cordon whatsoever, and she just doesn't whatsoever, and she just doesn't know whatsoever, and she just doesn't know how whatsoever, and she just doesn't know how many whatsoever, and she just doesn't know how many there whatsoever, and she just doesn't know how many there are? whatsoever, and she just doesn't know how many there are? No, whatsoever, and she just doesn't know how many there are? No, Mr know how many there are? No, Mr Speaker, know how many there are? No, Mr Speaker, what know how many there are? No, Mr Speaker, what I'm know how many there are? No, Mr Speaker, what I'm pointing know how many there are? No, Mr Speaker, what I'm pointing out know how many there are? No, Mr Speaker, what I'm pointing out is Speaker, what I'm pointing out is that Speaker, what I'm pointing out is that our Speaker, what I'm pointing out is that our gun Speaker, what I'm pointing out is that our gun laws, Speaker, what I'm pointing out is that our gun laws, historically, that our gun laws, historically, have that our gun laws, historically, have been that our gun laws, historically, have been far that our gun laws, historically, have been far too that our gun laws, historically, have been far too relaxed. that our gun laws, historically, have been far too relaxed. Am that our gun laws, historically, have been far too relaxed. Am I that our gun laws, historically, have been far too relaxed. Am I to have been far too relaxed. Am I to imply have been far too relaxed. Am I to imply from have been far too relaxed. Am I to imply from the have been far too relaxed. Am I to imply from the member's have been far too relaxed. Am I to imply from the member's question imply from the member's question that imply from the member's question that he imply from the member's question that he would imply from the member's question that he would prefer imply from the member's question that he would prefer us imply from the member's question that he would prefer us to imply from the member's question that he would prefer us to do that he would prefer us to do nothing that he would prefer us to do nothing than that he would prefer us to do nothing than what that he would prefer us to do nothing than what we that he would prefer us to do nothing than what we are that he would prefer us to do nothing than what we are doing that he would prefer us to do nothing than what we are doing now? nothing than what we are doing now? Supplementary, nothing than what we are doing now? Supplementary, the nothing than what we are doing now? Supplementary, the Hon nothing than what we are doing now? Supplementary, the Hon Stuart nothing than what we are doing now? Supplementary, the Hon Stuart Nash. Supplementary, the Hon Stuart Nash. PM, Supplementary, the Hon Stuart Nash. PM, is Supplementary, the Hon Stuart Nash. PM, is it Supplementary, the Hon Stuart Nash. PM, is it true Supplementary, the Hon Stuart Nash. PM, is it true that Supplementary, the Hon Stuart Nash. PM, is it true that if Supplementary, the Hon Stuart Nash. PM, is it true that if someone Supplementary, the Hon Stuart Nash. PM, is it true that if someone is Supplementary, the Hon Stuart Nash. PM, is it true that if someone is in PM, is it true that if someone is in caught PM, is it true that if someone is in caught of PM, is it true that if someone is in caught of possession PM, is it true that if someone is in caught of possession of PM, is it true that if someone is in caught of possession of an PM, is it true that if someone is in caught of possession of an illegal caught of possession of an illegal weapon caught of possession of an illegal weapon that caught of possession of an illegal weapon that they caught of possession of an illegal weapon that they face caught of possession of an illegal weapon that they face a caught of possession of an illegal weapon that they face a jail caught of possession of an illegal weapon that they face a jail term caught of possession of an illegal weapon that they face a jail term of weapon that they face a jail term of five weapon that they face a jail term of five years? weapon that they face a jail term of five years? Absolutely, weapon that they face a jail term of five years? Absolutely, Mr weapon that they face a jail term of five years? Absolutely, Mr Speaker. five years? Absolutely, Mr Speaker. Not five years? Absolutely, Mr Speaker. Not only five years? Absolutely, Mr Speaker. Not only are five years? Absolutely, Mr Speaker. Not only are we five years? Absolutely, Mr Speaker. Not only are we removing Not only are we removing military-style Not only are we removing military-style semi-automatics Not only are we removing military-style semi-automatics from military-style semi-automatics from circulation military-style semi-automatics from circulation in military-style semi-automatics from circulation in terms military-style semi-automatics from circulation in terms of military-style semi-automatics from circulation in terms of if military-style semi-automatics from circulation in terms of if legal circulation in terms of if legal trade circulation in terms of if legal trade of circulation in terms of if legal trade of them, circulation in terms of if legal trade of them, which circulation in terms of if legal trade of them, which currently, circulation in terms of if legal trade of them, which currently, up trade of them, which currently, up until trade of them, which currently, up until now, trade of them, which currently, up until now, has trade of them, which currently, up until now, has occurred, trade of them, which currently, up until now, has occurred, and trade of them, which currently, up until now, has occurred, and assault until now, has occurred, and assault rifles, until now, has occurred, and assault rifles, we until now, has occurred, and assault rifles, we are until now, has occurred, and assault rifles, we are also until now, has occurred, and assault rifles, we are also increasing until now, has occurred, and assault rifles, we are also increasing the rifles, we are also increasing the penalties rifles, we are also increasing the penalties for rifles, we are also increasing the penalties for those rifles, we are also increasing the penalties for those who rifles, we are also increasing the penalties for those who are rifles, we are also increasing the penalties for those who are in penalties for those who are in possession penalties for those who are in possession of penalties for those who are in possession of these penalties for those who are in possession of these guns penalties for those who are in possession of these guns after penalties for those who are in possession of these guns after the possession of these guns after the amnesty possession of these guns after the amnesty and possession of these guns after the amnesty and buyback possession of these guns after the amnesty and buyback has possession of these guns after the amnesty and buyback has been possession of these guns after the amnesty and buyback has been in amnesty and buyback has been in place. amnesty and buyback has been in place. Question amnesty and buyback has been in place. Question no. amnesty and buyback has been in place. Question no. 10, amnesty and buyback has been in place. Question no. 10, Anahila place. Question no. 10, Anahila Kanongata'a-Suisuiki. Kanongata'a-Suisuiki. INTERPRETER: Kanongata'a-Suisuiki. INTERPRETER: Greetings, Kanongata'a-Suisuiki. INTERPRETER: Greetings, Mr Kanongata'a-Suisuiki. INTERPRETER: Greetings, Mr Speaker. INTERPRETER: Greetings, Mr Speaker. My INTERPRETER: Greetings, Mr Speaker. My question INTERPRETER: Greetings, Mr Speaker. My question is INTERPRETER: Greetings, Mr Speaker. My question is to INTERPRETER: Greetings, Mr Speaker. My question is to the INTERPRETER: Greetings, Mr Speaker. My question is to the Minister INTERPRETER: Greetings, Mr Speaker. My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Pacific My question is to the Minister for Pacific Peoples. What What is What is the What is the Government What is the Government doing, What is the Government doing, if What is the Government doing, if anything, What is the Government doing, if anything, to What is the Government doing, if anything, to support What is the Government doing, if anything, to support Pacific What is the Government doing, if anything, to support Pacific peoples anything, to support Pacific peoples in anything, to support Pacific peoples in the anything, to support Pacific peoples in the regions? The The Coalition The Coalition Government The Coalition Government announced The Coalition Government announced as The Coalition Government announced as part The Coalition Government announced as part of The Coalition Government announced as part of the The Coalition Government announced as part of the 82.4 The Coalition Government announced as part of the 82.4 million The Coalition Government announced as part of the 82.4 million Te as part of the 82.4 million Te Hamari as part of the 82.4 million Te Hamari school as part of the 82.4 million Te Hamari school initiative, as part of the 82.4 million Te Hamari school initiative, that as part of the 82.4 million Te Hamari school initiative, that the Hamari school initiative, that the provincial Hamari school initiative, that the provincial programme Hamari school initiative, that the provincial programme will Hamari school initiative, that the provincial programme will invest provincial programme will invest $8.85 provincial programme will invest Hamari provincial programme will invest $8.85 million to provincial programme will invest $8.85 million to expand provincial programme will invest $8.85 million to expand the provincial programme will invest $8.85 million to expand the Ministry $8.85 million to expand the Ministry for $8.85 million to expand the Ministry for Pacific $8.85 million to expand the Ministry for Pacific People's $8.85 million to expand the Ministry for Pacific People's programme. $8.85 million to expand the Ministry for Pacific People's programme. It for Pacific People's programme. It is for Pacific People's programme. It is supporting for Pacific People's programme. It is supporting Pacific for Pacific People's programme. It is supporting Pacific peoples for Pacific People's programme. It is supporting Pacific peoples into is supporting Pacific peoples into employment is supporting Pacific peoples into is is supporting Pacific peoples into employment and With is supporting Pacific peoples into employment and With the is supporting Pacific peoples into employment and With the support is supporting Pacific peoples into employment and With the support of employment and With the support of the employment and With the support of the PM, employment and With the support of the PM, and employment and With the support of the PM, and the employment and With the support of the PM, and the Hon employment and With the support of the PM, and the Hon Shane employment and With the support of the PM, and the Hon Shane Jones, the PM, and the Hon Shane Jones, first the PM, and the Hon Shane Jones, first citizen the PM, and the Hon Shane Jones, first citizen of the PM, and the Hon Shane Jones, first citizen of the the PM, and the Hon Shane Jones, first citizen of the regions, the PM, and the Hon Shane Jones, first citizen of the regions, the first citizen of the regions, the programme first citizen of the regions, the programme will first citizen of the regions, the programme will be first citizen of the regions, the programme will be expanded first citizen of the regions, the programme will be expanded into first citizen of the regions, the programme will be expanded into the programme will be expanded into the Greater programme will be expanded into the Greater Waikato, programme will be expanded into the Greater Waikato, Mungaru, programme will be expanded into the Greater Waikato, Mungaru, Bay programme will be expanded into the Greater Waikato, Mungaru, Bay of Greater Waikato, Mungaru, Bay of Plenty, Greater Waikato, Mungaru, Bay of Plenty, Otago. Greater Waikato, Mungaru, Bay of Plenty, Otago. Why Greater Waikato, Mungaru, Bay of Plenty, Otago. Why is Greater Waikato, Mungaru, Bay of Plenty, Otago. Why is the Greater Waikato, Mungaru, Bay of Plenty, Otago. Why is the expansion Plenty, Otago. Why is the expansion necessary? Plenty, Otago. Why is the expansion necessary? The Plenty, Otago. Why is the expansion necessary? The Pacific Plenty, Otago. Why is the expansion necessary? The Pacific population Plenty, Otago. Why is the expansion necessary? The Pacific population is necessary? The Pacific population is growing necessary? The Pacific population is growing throughout necessary? The Pacific population is growing throughout regional necessary? The Pacific population is growing throughout regional New growing throughout regional New Zealand growing throughout regional New necessary? growing throughout regional New Zealand and despite growing throughout regional New Zealand and despite their growing throughout regional New Zealand and despite their positive Zealand and despite their positive contribution Zealand and despite their positive contribution to Zealand and despite their positive contribution to New Zealand and despite their positive contribution to New Zealand's contribution to New Zealand's economy, contribution to New Zealand's economy, there contribution to New Zealand's economy, there are contribution to New Zealand's economy, there are high contribution to New Zealand's economy, there are high numbers contribution to New Zealand's economy, there are high numbers of economy, there are high numbers of young economy, there are high numbers of young people economy, there are high numbers of young people struggling economy, there are high numbers of young people struggling with young people struggling with inequities young people struggling with Zealand young people struggling with inequities and barriers young people struggling with inequities and barriers in young people struggling with inequities and barriers in the young people struggling with inequities and barriers in the areas inequities and barriers in the areas of inequities and barriers in the areas of employment, inequities and barriers in the areas of employment, education inequities and barriers in the areas of employment, education and of employment, education and training. of employment, education and training. 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That is why we included Pacific people wellbeing. That is why we included Pacific people aged wellbeing. That is why we included Pacific people aged up wellbeing. That is why we included Pacific people aged up to wellbeing. That is why we included Pacific people aged up to 39 wellbeing. That is why we included Pacific people aged up to 39 years Pacific people aged up to 39 years old Pacific people aged up to 39 years old so Pacific people aged up to 39 years old so that Pacific people aged up to 39 years old so that we Pacific people aged up to 39 years old so that we can Pacific people aged up to 39 years old so that we can get Pacific people aged up to 39 years old so that we can get more Pacific people aged up to 39 years old so that we can get more people old so that we can get more people into old so that we can get more people into employment, old so that we can get more people into employment, education old so that we can get more people into employment, education and into employment, education and training. into employment, education and training. The into employment, education and training. The PTF into employment, education and training. The PTF funding into employment, education and training. The PTF funding will training. The PTF funding will enable training. The PTF funding will enable the training. The PTF funding will enable the programme training. The PTF funding will enable the programme to training. The PTF funding will enable the programme to support training. The PTF funding will enable the programme to support more enable the programme to support more Pacific enable the programme to support more Pacific people enable the programme to support more Pacific people to enable the programme to support more Pacific people to success, enable the programme to support more Pacific people to success, growing Pacific people to success, growing opportunities, Pacific people to success, growing opportunities, and Pacific people to success, growing opportunities, and to Pacific people to success, growing opportunities, and to lift Pacific people to success, growing opportunities, and to lift incomes opportunities, and to lift incomes and and INTERPRETER: and INTERPRETER: Supplementary. and INTERPRETER: Supplementary. and INTERPRETER: Supplementary. ..in INTERPRETER: Supplementary. ..in urban INTERPRETER: Supplementary. ..in urban areas? INTERPRETER: Supplementary. ..in urban areas? Since INTERPRETER: Supplementary. ..in urban areas? Since inception, INTERPRETER: Supplementary. ..in urban areas? Since inception, the urban areas? Since inception, the programme urban areas? Since inception, the programme has urban areas? Since inception, the programme has seen urban areas? Since inception, the programme has seen success urban areas? Since inception, the programme has seen success in urban areas? 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Mr The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, yes. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, yes. Supplementary. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, yes. Supplementary. What The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, yes. Supplementary. What does The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, yes. Supplementary. What does he The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, yes. Supplementary. What does he say yes. Supplementary. What does he say to yes. Supplementary. What does he say to vulnerable yes. Supplementary. What does he say to vulnerable rural yes. Supplementary. What does he say to vulnerable rural communities yes. Supplementary. 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