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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Associate My question is to the Associate Minister My question is to the Associate Minister of My question is to the Associate Minister of Education My question is to the Associate Minister of Education (Maori Minister of Education (Maori Education): Education): What Education): What recent Education): What recent announcements Education): What recent announcements has What recent announcements has he What recent announcements has he made What recent announcements has he made about What recent announcements has he made about growing he made about growing and he made about growing and strengthening he made about growing and strengthening an he made about growing and strengthening an education and strengthening an education workforce and strengthening an education workforce that and strengthening an education workforce that can and strengthening an education workforce that can integrate and strengthening an education workforce that can integrate te and strengthening an education workforce that can integrate te reo workforce that can integrate te reo Maori workforce that can integrate te reo Maori into workforce that can integrate te reo Maori into the workforce that can integrate te reo Maori into the learning workforce that can integrate te reo Maori into the learning of workforce that can integrate te reo Maori into the learning of all Maori into the learning of all akonga Maori into the learning of all akonga in Maori into the learning of all akonga in Aotearoa Maori into the learning of all akonga in Aotearoa New Maori into the learning of all akonga in Aotearoa New Zealand? 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Question with 29% coming from those who identify as Maori. Question No. with 29% coming from those who identify as Maori. Question No. 3. 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Although we're living in turbulent times in the world for turbulent times in the world for trade, turbulent times in the world for trade, it's turbulent times in the world for trade, it's pleasing turbulent times in the world for trade, it's pleasing that turbulent times in the world for trade, it's pleasing that we turbulent times in the world for trade, it's pleasing that we are trade, it's pleasing that we are making trade, it's pleasing that we are making progress trade, it's pleasing that we are making progress and trade, it's pleasing that we are making progress and that trade, it's pleasing that we are making progress and that the trade, it's pleasing that we are making progress and that the next making progress and that the next round making progress and that the next round of making progress and that the next round of the making progress and that the next round of the FTA making progress and that the next round of the FTA negotiations making progress and that the next round of the FTA negotiations are round of the FTA negotiations are occurring round of the FTA negotiations are occurring just round of the FTA negotiations are occurring just this round of the FTA negotiations are occurring just this month. round of the FTA negotiations are occurring just this month. How round of the FTA negotiations are occurring just this month. How has occurring just this month. How has CPTTP occurring just this month. How has CPTTP helped occurring just this month. How has CPTTP helped support occurring just this month. How has CPTTP helped support exports occurring just this month. How has CPTTP helped support exports to CPTTP helped support exports to Japan, CPTTP helped support exports to Japan, Canada CPTTP helped support exports to Japan, Canada and CPTTP helped support exports to Japan, Canada and Mexico CPTTP helped support exports to Japan, Canada and Mexico - CPTTP helped support exports to Japan, Canada and Mexico - three CPTTP helped support exports to Japan, Canada and Mexico - three G20 Japan, Canada and Mexico - three G20 countries Japan, Canada and Mexico - three G20 countries which Japan, Canada and Mexico - three G20 countries which we Japan, Canada and Mexico - three G20 countries which we didn't Japan, Canada and Mexico - three G20 countries which we didn't have Japan, Canada and Mexico - three G20 countries which we didn't have any countries which we didn't have any bilateral countries which we didn't have any bilateral agreement countries which we didn't have any bilateral agreement with? countries which we didn't have any bilateral agreement with? There's bilateral agreement with? There's good bilateral agreement with? There's good news bilateral agreement with? There's good news there bilateral agreement with? There's good news there too. bilateral agreement with? There's good news there too. Under bilateral agreement with? There's good news there too. Under the good news there too. Under the Comprehensive good news there too. Under the Comprehensive and good news there too. Under the Comprehensive and Progressive Comprehensive and Progressive Trans-Pacific Comprehensive and Progressive Trans-Pacific Partnership Comprehensive and Progressive Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement, Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement, the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement, the exports Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement, the exports to Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement, the exports to Canada Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement, the exports to Canada have Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement, the exports to Canada have increased the exports to Canada have increased in the exports to Canada have increased in the the exports to Canada have increased in the quarter the exports to Canada have increased in the quarter by the exports to Canada have increased in the quarter by an the exports to Canada have increased in the quarter by an average the exports to Canada have increased in the quarter by an average of the exports to Canada have increased in the quarter by an average of -- in the quarter by an average of -- 8.4%. in the quarter by an average of -- 8.4%. Exports in the quarter by an average of -- 8.4%. Exports to in the quarter by an average of -- 8.4%. Exports to Mexico in the quarter by an average of -- 8.4%. Exports to Mexico have in the quarter by an average of -- 8.4%. Exports to Mexico have gone in the quarter by an average of -- 8.4%. Exports to Mexico have gone up 8.4%. Exports to Mexico have gone up by 8.4%. Exports to Mexico have gone up by a 8.4%. Exports to Mexico have gone up by a similar 8.4%. Exports to Mexico have gone up by a similar amount 8.4%. Exports to Mexico have gone up by a similar amount - 8.4%. Exports to Mexico have gone up by a similar amount - 5.9%. 8.4%. Exports to Mexico have gone up by a similar amount - 5.9%. And 8.4%. Exports to Mexico have gone up by a similar amount - 5.9%. And the by a similar amount - 5.9%. And the standout by a similar amount - 5.9%. And the standout increase by a similar amount - 5.9%. And the standout increase has by a similar amount - 5.9%. And the standout increase has actually by a similar amount - 5.9%. And the standout increase has actually been standout increase has actually been to standout increase has actually been to Japan standout increase has actually been to Japan where standout increase has actually been to Japan where meat standout increase has actually been to Japan where meat exports standout increase has actually been to Japan where meat exports overall to Japan where meat exports overall are to Japan where meat exports overall are up to Japan where meat exports overall are up 25% to Japan where meat exports overall are up 25% compared to Japan where meat exports overall are up 25% compared with to Japan where meat exports overall are up 25% compared with a to Japan where meat exports overall are up 25% compared with a year to Japan where meat exports overall are up 25% compared with a year ago. are up 25% compared with a year ago. And are up 25% compared with a year ago. And beef are up 25% compared with a year ago. And beef exports are up 25% compared with a year ago. And beef exports are are up 25% compared with a year ago. And beef exports are 40% are up 25% compared with a year ago. And beef exports are 40% higher. And beef exports are 40% higher. What And beef exports are 40% higher. What role And beef exports are 40% higher. What role is And beef exports are 40% higher. What role is the And beef exports are 40% higher. What role is the New And beef exports are 40% higher. What role is the New Zealand What role is the New Zealand Government What role is the New Zealand Government taking What role is the New Zealand Government taking in What role is the New Zealand Government taking in trying What role is the New Zealand Government taking in trying to What role is the New Zealand Government taking in trying to find Government taking in trying to find a Government taking in trying to find a solution Government taking in trying to find a solution to Government taking in trying to find a solution to the Government taking in trying to find a solution to the issues Government taking in trying to find a solution to the issues with Government taking in trying to find a solution to the issues with the a solution to the issues with the WTO a solution to the issues with the WTO body? a solution to the issues with the WTO body? Mr a solution to the issues with the WTO body? Mr Speaker, a solution to the issues with the WTO body? Mr Speaker, the a solution to the issues with the WTO body? Mr Speaker, the appellate WTO body? Mr Speaker, the appellate body WTO body? Mr Speaker, the appellate body is WTO body? Mr Speaker, the appellate body is important WTO body? Mr Speaker, the appellate body is important to WTO body? Mr Speaker, the appellate body is important to our WTO body? Mr Speaker, the appellate body is important to our trade WTO body? Mr Speaker, the appellate body is important to our trade - WTO body? Mr Speaker, the appellate body is important to our trade - our body is important to our trade - our ability body is important to our trade - our ability to body is important to our trade - our ability to export. body is important to our trade - our ability to export. We body is important to our trade - our ability to export. We raised body is important to our trade - our ability to export. We raised these ability to export. We raised these issues ability to export. We raised these issues in ability to export. We raised these issues in discussions ability to export. We raised these issues in discussions with ability to export. We raised these issues in discussions with Chinese issues in discussions with Chinese counterparts, issues in discussions with Chinese counterparts, but issues in discussions with Chinese counterparts, but in issues in discussions with Chinese counterparts, but in addition issues in discussions with Chinese counterparts, but in addition to counterparts, but in addition to that counterparts, but in addition to that it's counterparts, but in addition to that it's noteworthy counterparts, but in addition to that it's noteworthy that counterparts, but in addition to that it's noteworthy that the that it's noteworthy that the Government's that it's noteworthy that the Government's senior that it's noteworthy that the Government's senior representative Government's senior representative to Government's senior representative to Geneva, Government's senior representative to Geneva, Mr Government's senior representative to Geneva, Mr David Government's senior representative to Geneva, Mr David Walker, Government's senior representative to Geneva, Mr David Walker, has Government's senior representative to Geneva, Mr David Walker, has been to Geneva, Mr David Walker, has been appointed to Geneva, Mr David Walker, has been appointed by to Geneva, Mr David Walker, has been appointed by the to Geneva, Mr David Walker, has been appointed by the general to Geneva, Mr David Walker, has been appointed by the general council to Geneva, Mr David Walker, has been appointed by the general council to appointed by the general council to the appointed by the general council to the World appointed by the general council to the World Trade appointed by the general council to the World Trade Organisation appointed by the general council to the World Trade Organisation to appointed by the general council to the World Trade Organisation to try the World Trade Organisation to try and the World Trade Organisation to try and see the World Trade Organisation to try and see if the World Trade Organisation to try and see if a the World Trade Organisation to try and see if a way the World Trade Organisation to try and see if a way through the World Trade Organisation to try and see if a way through can the World Trade Organisation to try and see if a way through can be and see if a way through can be found and see if a way through can be found between and see if a way through can be found between the and see if a way through can be found between the different and see if a way through can be found between the different views found between the different views held found between the different views held by found between the different views held by different found between the different views held by different members found between the different views held by different members of found between the different views held by different members of the found between the different views held by different members of the WTO held by different members of the WTO appellate held by different members of the WTO appellate body. held by different members of the WTO appellate body. If held by different members of the WTO appellate body. If that held by different members of the WTO appellate body. If that is held by different members of the WTO appellate body. If that is not appellate body. If that is not resolved appellate body. If that is not resolved by appellate body. If that is not resolved by the appellate body. If that is not resolved by the end appellate body. If that is not resolved by the end of appellate body. If that is not resolved by the end of the appellate body. If that is not resolved by the end of the year, appellate body. If that is not resolved by the end of the year, the resolved by the end of the year, the appellate resolved by the end of the year, the appellate body resolved by the end of the year, the appellate body ceases resolved by the end of the year, the appellate body ceases to resolved by the end of the year, the appellate body ceases to function. appellate body ceases to function. Question appellate body ceases to function. Question No. appellate body ceases to function. Question No. 5. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Police: Police: Question Police: When was he Police: When was he first Police: When was he first advised Police: When was he first advised by Police: When was he first advised by Police When was he first advised by Police that When was he first advised by Police that there When was he first advised by Police that there had When was he first advised by Police that there had been When was he first advised by Police that there had been an When was he first advised by Police that there had been an alleged that there had been an alleged unauthorised that there had been an alleged unauthorised disclosure that there had been an alleged unauthorised disclosure of that there had been an alleged unauthorised disclosure of Police unauthorised disclosure of Police information unauthorised disclosure of Police information to unauthorised disclosure of Police information to a unauthorised disclosure of Police information to a media unauthorised disclosure of Police information to a media outlet, information to a media outlet, and information to a media outlet, and when information to a media outlet, and when was information to a media outlet, and when was he information to a media outlet, and when was he first information to a media outlet, and when was he first advised and when was he first advised that and when was he first advised that the and when was he first advised that the Police and when was he first advised that the Police Commissioner and when was he first advised that the Police Commissioner had that the Police Commissioner had directed that the Police Commissioner had directed an that the Police Commissioner had directed an investigation that the Police Commissioner had directed an investigation be directed an investigation be commenced directed an investigation be commenced into directed an investigation be commenced into that directed an investigation be commenced into that disclosure? Mr Mr Speaker... Mr Speaker... With Mr Speaker... With the Mr Speaker... With the caveat, Mr Speaker... With the caveat, this Mr Speaker... With the caveat, this is Mr Speaker... With the caveat, this is likely Mr Speaker... With the caveat, this is likely to Mr Speaker... With the caveat, this is likely to be Mr Speaker... With the caveat, this is likely to be longer Mr Speaker... With the caveat, this is likely to be longer than Mr Speaker... With the caveat, this is likely to be longer than normal. is likely to be longer than normal. Mr is likely to be longer than normal. Mr Speaker, is likely to be longer than normal. Mr Speaker, I is likely to be longer than normal. Mr Speaker, I first is likely to be longer than normal. Mr Speaker, I first became is likely to be longer than normal. Mr Speaker, I first became aware is likely to be longer than normal. Mr Speaker, I first became aware of Mr Speaker, I first became aware of the Mr Speaker, I first became aware of the allegations Mr Speaker, I first became aware of the allegations when Mr Speaker, I first became aware of the allegations when I Mr Speaker, I first became aware of the allegations when I read Mr Speaker, I first became aware of the allegations when I read them Mr Speaker, I first became aware of the allegations when I read them in the allegations when I read them in the the allegations when I read them in the newspaper the allegations when I read them in the newspaper on the allegations when I read them in the newspaper on Sunday, the allegations when I read them in the newspaper on Sunday, 28th. the allegations when I read them in the newspaper on Sunday, 28th. I the newspaper on Sunday, 28th. I subsequently the newspaper on Sunday, 28th. I subsequently spoke the newspaper on Sunday, 28th. I subsequently spoke to the newspaper on Sunday, 28th. I subsequently spoke to the subsequently spoke to the Commissioner subsequently spoke to the Commissioner of subsequently spoke to the Commissioner of police subsequently spoke to the Commissioner of police and subsequently spoke to the Commissioner of police and asked subsequently spoke to the Commissioner of police and asked him Commissioner of police and asked him to Commissioner of police and asked him to get Commissioner of police and asked him to get to Commissioner of police and asked him to get to the Commissioner of police and asked him to get to the bottom Commissioner of police and asked him to get to the bottom of Commissioner of police and asked him to get to the bottom of this to get to the bottom of this including to get to the bottom of this including whether to get to the bottom of this including whether an to get to the bottom of this including whether an investigation including whether an investigation needed including whether an investigation needed to including whether an investigation needed to be including whether an investigation needed to be conducted. including whether an investigation needed to be conducted. On including whether an investigation needed to be conducted. On the needed to be conducted. On the morning needed to be conducted. On the morning of needed to be conducted. On the morning of Monday needed to be conducted. On the morning of Monday the needed to be conducted. On the morning of Monday the 29th, needed to be conducted. On the morning of Monday the 29th, the morning of Monday the 29th, the Commissioner morning of Monday the 29th, the Commissioner briefed morning of Monday the 29th, the Commissioner briefed me morning of Monday the 29th, the Commissioner briefed me in morning of Monday the 29th, the Commissioner briefed me in my morning of Monday the 29th, the Commissioner briefed me in my office Commissioner briefed me in my office and Commissioner briefed me in my office and assured Commissioner briefed me in my office and assured me Commissioner briefed me in my office and assured me that Commissioner briefed me in my office and assured me that no Commissioner briefed me in my office and assured me that no top Commissioner briefed me in my office and assured me that no top secret and assured me that no top secret information and assured me that no top secret information had and assured me that no top secret information had been and assured me that no top secret information had been released. and assured me that no top secret information had been released. I information had been released. I reiterated information had been released. I reiterated my information had been released. I reiterated my expectation information had been released. I reiterated my expectation for information had been released. I reiterated my expectation for an reiterated my expectation for an investigation reiterated my expectation for an investigation into reiterated my expectation for an investigation into any reiterated my expectation for an investigation into any breach reiterated my expectation for an investigation into any breach of investigation into any breach of operational investigation into any breach of operational protocols investigation into any breach of operational protocols and investigation into any breach of operational protocols and I investigation into any breach of operational protocols and I informed operational protocols and I informed the operational protocols and I informed the House operational protocols and I informed the House of operational protocols and I informed the House of this operational protocols and I informed the House of this expectation operational protocols and I informed the House of this expectation on the House of this expectation on Tuesday. the House of this expectation on Tuesday. On the House of this expectation on Tuesday. On the the House of this expectation on Tuesday. On the morning the House of this expectation on Tuesday. On the morning of the House of this expectation on Tuesday. On the morning of Tuesday, Tuesday. On the morning of Tuesday, the Tuesday. On the morning of Tuesday, the 30th, Tuesday. On the morning of Tuesday, the 30th, my Tuesday. On the morning of Tuesday, the 30th, my office Tuesday. On the morning of Tuesday, the 30th, my office was Tuesday. On the morning of Tuesday, the 30th, my office was informed Tuesday. On the morning of Tuesday, the 30th, my office was informed of the 30th, my office was informed of police's the 30th, my office was informed of police's intention the 30th, my office was informed of police's intention to the 30th, my office was informed of police's intention to conduct the 30th, my office was informed of police's intention to conduct an police's intention to conduct an investigation police's intention to conduct an investigation that police's intention to conduct an investigation that that police's intention to conduct an investigation that that details police's intention to conduct an investigation that that details had investigation that that details had not investigation that that details had not been investigation that that details had not been finalised investigation that that details had not been finalised and investigation that that details had not been finalised and it investigation that that details had not been finalised and it would investigation that that details had not been finalised and it would have not been finalised and it would have been not been finalised and it would have been inappropriate not been finalised and it would have been inappropriate for not been finalised and it would have been inappropriate for me not been finalised and it would have been inappropriate for me to not been finalised and it would have been inappropriate for me to make been inappropriate for me to make any been inappropriate for me to make any public been inappropriate for me to make any public comment been inappropriate for me to make any public comment in been inappropriate for me to make any public comment in case been inappropriate for me to make any public comment in case it any public comment in case it compromised any public comment in case it compromised police's any public comment in case it compromised police's next any public comment in case it compromised police's next steps. any public comment in case it compromised police's next steps. I compromised police's next steps. I updated compromised police's next steps. I updated the compromised police's next steps. I updated the House compromised police's next steps. I updated the House about compromised police's next steps. I updated the House about the updated the House about the commencement updated the House about the commencement of updated the House about the commencement of an updated the House about the commencement of an investigation updated the House about the commencement of an investigation the commencement of an investigation the next commencement of an investigation the next day. commencement of an investigation the next day. Why commencement of an investigation the next day. Why did commencement of an investigation the next day. Why did he commencement of an investigation the next day. Why did he refuse commencement of an investigation the next day. Why did he refuse to next day. Why did he refuse to confirm next day. Why did he refuse to confirm to next day. Why did he refuse to confirm to Parliament next day. Why did he refuse to confirm to Parliament on next day. Why did he refuse to confirm to Parliament on Tuesday confirm to Parliament on Tuesday that confirm to Parliament on Tuesday that an confirm to Parliament on Tuesday that an investigation confirm to Parliament on Tuesday that an investigation was confirm to Parliament on Tuesday that an investigation was underway that an investigation was underway when that an investigation was underway when I that an investigation was underway when I asked that an investigation was underway when I asked him that an investigation was underway when I asked him a that an investigation was underway when I asked him a specific that an investigation was underway when I asked him a specific question when I asked him a specific question about when I asked him a specific question about that? when I asked him a specific question about that? Mr when I asked him a specific question about that? Mr Speaker, when I asked him a specific question about that? Mr Speaker, I when I asked him a specific question about that? Mr Speaker, I will about that? Mr Speaker, I will reiterate about that? Mr Speaker, I will reiterate that about that? Mr Speaker, I will reiterate that on about that? Mr Speaker, I will reiterate that on the about that? Mr Speaker, I will reiterate that on the morning about that? Mr Speaker, I will reiterate that on the morning of about that? Mr Speaker, I will reiterate that on the morning of the reiterate that on the morning of the Tuesday, reiterate that on the morning of the Tuesday, the reiterate that on the morning of the Tuesday, the 30th, reiterate that on the morning of the Tuesday, the 30th, my reiterate that on the morning of the Tuesday, the 30th, my office reiterate that on the morning of the Tuesday, the 30th, my office was Tuesday, the 30th, my office was informed Tuesday, the 30th, my office was informed of Tuesday, the 30th, my office was informed of police's Tuesday, the 30th, my office was informed of police's intention Tuesday, the 30th, my office was informed of police's intention to informed of police's intention to conduct informed of police's intention to conduct an informed of police's intention to conduct an investigation, informed of police's intention to conduct an investigation, but informed of police's intention to conduct an investigation, but that conduct an investigation, but that details conduct an investigation, but that details had conduct an investigation, but that details had not conduct an investigation, but that details had not been conduct an investigation, but that details had not been finalised conduct an investigation, but that details had not been finalised and details had not been finalised and it details had not been finalised and it would details had not been finalised and it would have details had not been finalised and it would have been details had not been finalised and it would have been inappropriate details had not been finalised and it would have been inappropriate for it would have been inappropriate for me it would have been inappropriate for me to it would have been inappropriate for me to make it would have been inappropriate for me to make any it would have been inappropriate for me to make any public it would have been inappropriate for me to make any public comment it would have been inappropriate for me to make any public comment in me to make any public comment in case me to make any public comment in case it me to make any public comment in case it compromised me to make any public comment in case it compromised police's me to make any public comment in case it compromised police's next case it compromised police's next steps. case it compromised police's next steps. And case it compromised police's next steps. And I case it compromised police's next steps. And I updated case it compromised police's next steps. And I updated the case it compromised police's next steps. And I updated the House case it compromised police's next steps. And I updated the House about steps. And I updated the House about the steps. And I updated the House about the commencement steps. And I updated the House about the commencement of steps. And I updated the House about the commencement of an steps. And I updated the House about the commencement of an investigation the commencement of an investigation the the commencement of an investigation the next the commencement of an investigation the next day. the commencement of an investigation the next day. Why the commencement of an investigation the next day. Why on the commencement of an investigation the next day. Why on Tuesday the next day. Why on Tuesday afternoon the next day. Why on Tuesday afternoon did the next day. Why on Tuesday afternoon did he the next day. Why on Tuesday afternoon did he not the next day. Why on Tuesday afternoon did he not repeat the next day. Why on Tuesday afternoon did he not repeat the afternoon did he not repeat the words afternoon did he not repeat the words that afternoon did he not repeat the words that the afternoon did he not repeat the words that the Commissioner afternoon did he not repeat the words that the Commissioner used afternoon did he not repeat the words that the Commissioner used the words that the Commissioner used the next words that the Commissioner used the next morning words that the Commissioner used the next morning that words that the Commissioner used the next morning that the words that the Commissioner used the next morning that the inquiry words that the Commissioner used the next morning that the inquiry - words that the Commissioner used the next morning that the inquiry - that next morning that the inquiry - that the next morning that the inquiry - that the unauthorised next morning that the inquiry - that the unauthorised release next morning that the inquiry - that the unauthorised release of next morning that the inquiry - that the unauthorised release of this the unauthorised release of this material the unauthorised release of this material was the unauthorised release of this material was of the unauthorised release of this material was of significant the unauthorised release of this material was of significant concern material was of significant concern and material was of significant concern and very material was of significant concern and very serious? material was of significant concern and very serious? I'm material was of significant concern and very serious? I'm going material was of significant concern and very serious? I'm going to material was of significant concern and very serious? I'm going to ask and very serious? I'm going to ask the and very serious? I'm going to ask the question and very serious? I'm going to ask the question to and very serious? I'm going to ask the question to rephrase and very serious? I'm going to ask the question to rephrase the the question to rephrase the question. the question to rephrase the question. Given the question to rephrase the question. Given what the question to rephrase the question. Given what happened question. Given what happened earlier. question. Given what happened earlier. OK. question. Given what happened earlier. OK. Supplementary. question. Given what happened earlier. OK. Supplementary. Why question. Given what happened earlier. OK. Supplementary. Why on earlier. OK. Supplementary. Why on Tuesday earlier. OK. Supplementary. Why on Tuesday in earlier. OK. Supplementary. Why on Tuesday in question earlier. OK. Supplementary. Why on Tuesday in question time earlier. OK. Supplementary. Why on Tuesday in question time did earlier. OK. Supplementary. Why on Tuesday in question time did he earlier. OK. Supplementary. Why on Tuesday in question time did he not Tuesday in question time did he not use Tuesday in question time did he not use the Tuesday in question time did he not use the same Tuesday in question time did he not use the same language Tuesday in question time did he not use the same language the Tuesday in question time did he not use the same language the Police use the same language the Police Commissioner use the same language the Police Commissioner used use the same language the Police Commissioner used the use the same language the Police Commissioner used the next use the same language the Police Commissioner used the next morning Commissioner used the next morning when Commissioner used the next morning when announcing Commissioner used the next morning when announcing the Commissioner used the next morning when announcing the investigation when announcing the investigation that when announcing the investigation that the when announcing the investigation that the alleged when announcing the investigation that the alleged unauthorised that the alleged unauthorised disclosure that the alleged unauthorised disclosure of that the alleged unauthorised disclosure of material that the alleged unauthorised disclosure of material was that the alleged unauthorised disclosure of material was very disclosure of material was very significant disclosure of material was very significant and disclosure of material was very significant and very disclosure of material was very significant and very serious? disclosure of material was very significant and very serious? Mr significant and very serious? Mr Speaker, significant and very serious? Mr Speaker, I significant and very serious? Mr Speaker, I have significant and very serious? Mr Speaker, I have always significant and very serious? Mr Speaker, I have always made significant and very serious? Mr Speaker, I have always made it significant and very serious? Mr Speaker, I have always made it clear Speaker, I have always made it clear that Speaker, I have always made it clear that both Speaker, I have always made it clear that both the Speaker, I have always made it clear that both the Commissioner Speaker, I have always made it clear that both the Commissioner of Speaker, I have always made it clear that both the Commissioner of Police that both the Commissioner of Police and that both the Commissioner of Police and myself that both the Commissioner of Police and myself take that both the Commissioner of Police and myself take any that both the Commissioner of Police and myself take any breaches that both the Commissioner of Police and myself take any breaches of and myself take any breaches of police and myself take any breaches of police protocol and myself take any breaches of police protocol very and myself take any breaches of police protocol very seriously. and myself take any breaches of police protocol very seriously. And police protocol very seriously. And on police protocol very seriously. And on Tuesday police protocol very seriously. And on Tuesday during police protocol very seriously. And on Tuesday during question police protocol very seriously. And on Tuesday during question time police protocol very seriously. And on Tuesday during question time I on Tuesday during question time I reiterated on Tuesday during question time I reiterated my on Tuesday during question time I reiterated my expectation on Tuesday during question time I reiterated my expectation that on Tuesday during question time I reiterated my expectation that if reiterated my expectation that if such reiterated my expectation that if such a reiterated my expectation that if such a breach reiterated my expectation that if such a breach had reiterated my expectation that if such a breach had occurred, reiterated my expectation that if such a breach had occurred, I reiterated my expectation that if such a breach had occurred, I would such a breach had occurred, I would expect such a breach had occurred, I would expect an such a breach had occurred, I would expect an investigation such a breach had occurred, I would expect an investigation to such a breach had occurred, I would expect an investigation to be expect an investigation to be undertaken. expect an investigation to be undertaken. These expect an investigation to be undertaken. These expectations expect an investigation to be undertaken. These expectations have undertaken. These expectations have subsequently undertaken. These expectations have subsequently been undertaken. These expectations have subsequently been met. subsequently been met. Supplementary. subsequently been met. Supplementary. What subsequently been met. Supplementary. What are subsequently been met. Supplementary. What are the Supplementary. What are the consequences Supplementary. What are the consequences of Supplementary. What are the consequences of the Supplementary. What are the consequences of the unauthorised consequences of the unauthorised release consequences of the unauthorised release of consequences of the unauthorised release of information? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, my Mr Speaker, my primary Mr Speaker, my primary objective Mr Speaker, my primary objective on Mr Speaker, my primary objective on Tuesday Mr Speaker, my primary objective on Tuesday was Mr Speaker, my primary objective on Tuesday was to Mr Speaker, my primary objective on Tuesday was to assure Mr Speaker, my primary objective on Tuesday was to assure the Mr Speaker, my primary objective on Tuesday was to assure the House Mr Speaker, my primary objective on Tuesday was to assure the House and Tuesday was to assure the House and the Tuesday was to assure the House and the public Tuesday was to assure the House and the public that Tuesday was to assure the House and the public that no Tuesday was to assure the House and the public that no top Tuesday was to assure the House and the public that no top secret the public that no top secret information the public that no top secret information had the public that no top secret information had been the public that no top secret information had been leaked. the public that no top secret information had been leaked. The information had been leaked. The unauthorised information had been leaked. The unauthorised release information had been leaked. The unauthorised release of information had been leaked. The unauthorised release of top information had been leaked. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Building My question is to the Minister for Building and My question is to the Minister for Building and Construction: Building and Construction: What Building and Construction: What recent Building and Construction: What recent announcements Building and Construction: What recent announcements has What recent announcements has she What recent announcements has she made What recent announcements has she made about What recent announcements has she made about the What recent announcements has she made about the building she made about the building and she made about the building and construction and construction industry and construction industry in and construction industry in New and construction industry in New Zealand? The The Hon The Hon Jenny The Hon Jenny Salesa. The Hon Jenny Salesa. Mr The Hon Jenny Salesa. 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After 18 months in office, when is she going months in office, when is she going to months in office, when is she going to announce months in office, when is she going to announce concrete months in office, when is she going to announce concrete and months in office, when is she going to announce concrete and specific to announce concrete and specific measures to announce concrete and specific measures to to announce concrete and specific measures to improve to announce concrete and specific measures to improve the to announce concrete and specific measures to improve the building to announce concrete and specific measures to improve the building and measures to improve the building and construction measures to improve the building and construction sector measures to improve the building and construction sector rather measures to improve the building and construction sector rather than measures to improve the building and construction sector rather than just construction sector rather than just announcing construction sector rather than just announcing yet construction sector rather than just announcing yet another construction sector rather than just announcing yet another working announcing yet another working group? announcing yet another working group? Mr announcing yet another working group? Mr Speaker, announcing yet another working group? Mr Speaker, this announcing yet another working group? Mr Speaker, this construction group? Mr Speaker, this construction sector group? Mr Speaker, this construction sector accord group? Mr Speaker, this construction sector accord is group? Mr Speaker, this construction sector accord is concrete group? Mr Speaker, this construction sector accord is concrete action. group? Mr Speaker, this construction sector accord is concrete action. We sector accord is concrete action. We have sector accord is concrete action. We have made sector accord is concrete action. We have made nine sector accord is concrete action. We have made nine commitments. sector accord is concrete action. We have made nine commitments. Mr have made nine commitments. Mr Speaker, have made nine commitments. Mr Speaker, this have made nine commitments. Mr Speaker, this is have made nine commitments. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Employment: Employment: Does Employment: Does he Employment: Does he stand Employment: Does he stand by Employment: Does he stand by his Employment: Does he stand by his approach Does he stand by his approach to Does he stand by his approach to Mana Does he stand by his approach to Mana in Does he stand by his approach to Mana in Mahi, Does he stand by his approach to Mana in Mahi, and Does he stand by his approach to Mana in Mahi, and how Does he stand by his approach to Mana in Mahi, and how many Does he stand by his approach to Mana in Mahi, and how many Maori to Mana in Mahi, and how many Maori participants to Mana in Mahi, and how many Maori participants are to Mana in Mahi, and how many Maori participants are involved participants are involved in participants are involved in the participants are involved in the Mana participants are involved in the Mana in participants are involved in the Mana in Mahi participants are involved in the Mana in Mahi programme? The The Hon The Hon Willie The Hon Willie Jackson. The Hon Willie Jackson. Mr The Hon Willie Jackson. Mr Speaker, The Hon Willie Jackson. Mr Speaker, to The Hon Willie Jackson. Mr Speaker, to answer The Hon Willie Jackson. Mr Speaker, to answer the The Hon Willie Jackson. Mr Speaker, to answer the first The Hon Willie Jackson. Mr Speaker, to answer the first part The Hon Willie Jackson. Mr Speaker, to answer the first part of The Hon Willie Jackson. 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Of these participants, 75 have these participants, 75 have identified these participants, 75 have identified as these participants, 75 have identified as Maori, these participants, 75 have identified as Maori, 52%. these participants, 75 have identified as Maori, 52%. Well, these participants, 75 have identified as Maori, 52%. Well, how identified as Maori, 52%. Well, how does identified as Maori, 52%. Well, how does he identified as Maori, 52%. Well, how does he determine identified as Maori, 52%. Well, how does he determine whether identified as Maori, 52%. Well, how does he determine whether the identified as Maori, 52%. 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That's easy - that's easy, Mr Maori enough to be counted? That's easy - that's easy, Mr Speaker Maori enough to be counted? 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Does he respect Maori participating in Mana respect Maori participating in Mana in respect Maori participating in Mana in Mahi respect Maori participating in Mana in Mahi regardless respect Maori participating in Mana in Mahi regardless of respect Maori participating in Mana in Mahi regardless of their in Mahi regardless of their background in Mahi regardless of their background or in Mahi regardless of their background or skin in Mahi regardless of their background or skin colour in Mahi regardless of their background or skin colour or in Mahi regardless of their background or skin colour or as in Mahi regardless of their background or skin colour or as he background or skin colour or as he ascertained background or skin colour or as he ascertained yesterday background or skin colour or as he ascertained yesterday in background or skin colour or as he ascertained yesterday in this background or skin colour or as he ascertained yesterday in this House ascertained yesterday in this House whether ascertained yesterday in this House whether or ascertained yesterday in this House whether or not ascertained yesterday in this House whether or not he ascertained yesterday in this House whether or not he thinks ascertained yesterday in this House whether or not he thinks they're whether or not he thinks they're Maori whether or not he thinks they're Maori on whether or not he thinks they're Maori on that whether or not he thinks they're Maori on that day whether or not he thinks they're Maori on that day or whether or not he thinks they're Maori on that day or not? whether or not he thinks they're Maori on that day or not? 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Housing My question is to the Minister of Housing and My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: Housing and Urban Development: When Housing and Urban Development: When can Housing and Urban Development: When can renters Housing and Urban Development: When can renters expect Housing and Urban Development: When can renters expect to Housing and Urban Development: When can renters expect to see When can renters expect to see legislation When can renters expect to see legislation introduced When can renters expect to see legislation introduced to When can renters expect to see legislation introduced to reform legislation introduced to reform the legislation introduced to reform the Residential legislation introduced to reform the Residential Tenancies legislation introduced to reform the Residential Tenancies Act the Residential Tenancies Act and the Residential Tenancies Act and protect the Residential Tenancies Act and protect their the Residential Tenancies Act and protect their right and protect their right to and protect their right to a and protect their right to a secure and protect their right to a secure home? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, the Mr Speaker, the Government Mr Speaker, the Government is Mr Speaker, the Government is committed Mr Speaker, the Government is committed to Mr Speaker, the Government is committed to improving Mr Speaker, the Government is committed to improving the Mr Speaker, the Government is committed to improving the balance committed to improving the balance between committed to improving the balance between providing committed to improving the balance between providing renters committed to improving the balance between providing renters with between providing renters with security between providing renters with security of between providing renters with security of tenure between providing renters with security of tenure and between providing renters with security of tenure and allowing between providing renters with security of tenure and allowing them security of tenure and allowing them to security of tenure and allowing them to make security of tenure and allowing them to make their security of tenure and allowing them to make their house security of tenure and allowing them to make their house a security of tenure and allowing them to make their house a home security of tenure and allowing them to make their house a home while to make their house a home while protecting to make their house a home while protecting the to make their house a home while protecting the rights to make their house a home while protecting the rights and to make their house a home while protecting the rights and interests protecting the rights and interests of protecting the rights and interests of landlords. protecting the rights and interests of landlords. Officials protecting the rights and interests of landlords. Officials received of landlords. Officials received over of landlords. Officials received over 4,500 of landlords. Officials received over 4,500 submissions of landlords. Officials received over 4,500 submissions on of landlords. Officials received over 4,500 submissions on the of landlords. Officials received over 4,500 submissions on the policy over 4,500 submissions on the policy proposals. over 4,500 submissions on the policy proposals. We're over 4,500 submissions on the policy proposals. We're currently over 4,500 submissions on the policy proposals. We're currently working proposals. We're currently working on proposals. We're currently working on the proposals. We're currently working on the policy proposals. We're currently working on the policy and proposals. We're currently working on the policy and with proposals. We're currently working on the policy and with Cabinet's on the policy and with Cabinet's agreement, on the policy and with Cabinet's agreement, we're on the policy and with Cabinet's agreement, we're aiming on the policy and with Cabinet's agreement, we're aiming to on the policy and with Cabinet's agreement, we're aiming to introduce agreement, we're aiming to introduce legislation agreement, we're aiming to introduce legislation this agreement, we're aiming to introduce legislation this calendar agreement, we're aiming to introduce legislation this calendar year. agreement, we're aiming to introduce legislation this calendar year. Does legislation this calendar year. Does he legislation this calendar year. Does he continue legislation this calendar year. Does he continue to legislation this calendar year. Does he continue to support legislation this calendar year. Does he continue to support ending he continue to support ending no-cause he continue to support ending no-cause tenancy he continue to support ending no-cause tenancy terminations? he continue to support ending no-cause tenancy terminations? We're no-cause tenancy terminations? We're committed no-cause tenancy terminations? We're committed to no-cause tenancy terminations? We're committed to improving no-cause tenancy terminations? We're committed to improving the no-cause tenancy terminations? We're committed to improving the security committed to improving the security of committed to improving the security of tenure committed to improving the security of tenure for committed to improving the security of tenure for renters committed to improving the security of tenure for renters and committed to improving the security of tenure for renters and striking of tenure for renters and striking the of tenure for renters and striking the right of tenure for renters and striking the right balance of tenure for renters and striking the right balance between of tenure for renters and striking the right balance between a of tenure for renters and striking the right balance between a tenant's the right balance between a tenant's right the right balance between a tenant's right to the right balance between a tenant's right to make the right balance between a tenant's right to make a the right balance between a tenant's right to make a house the right balance between a tenant's right to make a house a the right balance between a tenant's right to make a house a home the right balance between a tenant's right to make a house a home and right to make a house a home and ensuring right to make a house a home and ensuring that right to make a house a home and ensuring that landlords right to make a house a home and ensuring that landlords can right to make a house a home and ensuring that landlords can still ensuring that landlords can still get ensuring that landlords can still get rid ensuring that landlords can still get rid of ensuring that landlords can still get rid of rogue ensuring that landlords can still get rid of rogue tenants. ensuring that landlords can still get rid of rogue tenants. Cabinet get rid of rogue tenants. Cabinet will get rid of rogue tenants. Cabinet will be get rid of rogue tenants. Cabinet will be making get rid of rogue tenants. Cabinet will be making policy get rid of rogue tenants. Cabinet will be making policy decisions get rid of rogue tenants. Cabinet will be making policy decisions in will be making policy decisions in due will be making policy decisions in due course will be making policy decisions in due course on will be making policy decisions in due course on this, will be making policy decisions in due course on this, but will be making policy decisions in due course on this, but we will be making policy decisions in due course on this, but we consulted due course on this, but we consulted on due course on this, but we consulted on removing due course on this, but we consulted on removing no-cause due course on this, but we consulted on removing no-cause terminations on removing no-cause terminations because on removing no-cause terminations because we on removing no-cause terminations because we want on removing no-cause terminations because we want renters on removing no-cause terminations because we want renters to on removing no-cause terminations because we want renters to be on removing no-cause terminations because we want renters to be able because we want renters to be able to because we want renters to be able to put because we want renters to be able to put down because we want renters to be able to put down roots because we want renters to be able to put down roots in because we want renters to be able to put down roots in their to put down roots in their communities. to put down roots in their communities. Has to put down roots in their communities. Has he to put down roots in their communities. Has he instructed communities. Has he instructed officials communities. Has he instructed officials to communities. Has he instructed officials to consider communities. Has he instructed officials to consider how communities. Has he instructed officials to consider how to officials to consider how to prohibit officials to consider how to prohibit rental officials to consider how to prohibit rental bidding officials to consider how to prohibit rental bidding so officials to consider how to prohibit rental bidding so that prohibit rental bidding so that property prohibit rental bidding so that property managers prohibit rental bidding so that property managers are prohibit rental bidding so that property managers are no prohibit rental bidding so that property managers are no longer prohibit rental bidding so that property managers are no longer able property managers are no longer able to property managers are no longer able to run property managers are no longer able to run rental property managers are no longer able to run rental tenders property managers are no longer able to run rental tenders like property managers are no longer able to run rental tenders like the property managers are no longer able to run rental tenders like the one to run rental tenders like the one Cutlers to run rental tenders like the one Cutlers recently to run rental tenders like the one Cutlers recently advertised to run rental tenders like the one Cutlers recently advertised in Cutlers recently advertised in Dunedin? Cutlers recently advertised in Dunedin? Well, Cutlers recently advertised in Dunedin? Well, it Cutlers recently advertised in Dunedin? Well, it was Cutlers recently advertised in Dunedin? Well, it was disappointing Dunedin? Well, it was disappointing to Dunedin? Well, it was disappointing to see Dunedin? Well, it was disappointing to see that Dunedin? Well, it was disappointing to see that property Dunedin? Well, it was disappointing to see that property management to see that property management company to see that property management company treating to see that property management company treating the to see that property management company treating the renting to see that property management company treating the renting out to see that property management company treating the renting out of company treating the renting out of properties company treating the renting out of properties to company treating the renting out of properties to students company treating the renting out of properties to students as company treating the renting out of properties to students as some company treating the renting out of properties to students as some kind properties to students as some kind of properties to students as some kind of contest properties to students as some kind of contest or properties to students as some kind of contest or a properties to students as some kind of contest or a game. properties to students as some kind of contest or a game. 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Having a home is a basic necessity and making is a basic necessity and making students is a basic necessity and making students compete is a basic necessity and making students compete against is a basic necessity and making students compete against each is a basic necessity and making students compete against each other students compete against each other for students compete against each other for a students compete against each other for a flat students compete against each other for a flat is students compete against each other for a flat is distasteful. students compete against each other for a flat is distasteful. Officials for a flat is distasteful. Officials are for a flat is distasteful. Officials are currently for a flat is distasteful. Officials are currently looking for a flat is distasteful. Officials are currently looking at for a flat is distasteful. Officials are currently looking at considering are currently looking at considering the are currently looking at considering the options are currently looking at considering the options on are currently looking at considering the options on banning are currently looking at considering the options on banning rental the options on banning rental bidding. the options on banning rental bidding. Does the options on banning rental bidding. Does he the options on banning rental bidding. Does he agree the options on banning rental bidding. Does he agree that the options on banning rental bidding. Does he agree that our the options on banning rental bidding. Does he agree that our law bidding. Does he agree that our law needs bidding. Does he agree that our law needs more bidding. Does he agree that our law needs more protections bidding. Does he agree that our law needs more protections against needs more protections against frequent needs more protections against frequent and needs more protections against frequent and significant needs more protections against frequent and significant rent frequent and significant rent increases? frequent and significant rent increases? Well, frequent and significant rent increases? Well, as frequent and significant rent increases? Well, as the frequent and significant rent increases? Well, as the Reserve frequent and significant rent increases? Well, as the Reserve Bank increases? Well, as the Reserve Bank says increases? Well, as the Reserve Bank says - increases? Well, as the Reserve Bank says - rents increases? Well, as the Reserve Bank says - rents are increases? Well, as the Reserve Bank says - rents are set increases? Well, as the Reserve Bank says - rents are set primarily increases? Well, as the Reserve Bank says - rents are set primarily by says - rents are set primarily by supply says - rents are set primarily by supply and says - rents are set primarily by supply and demand says - rents are set primarily by supply and demand which says - rents are set primarily by supply and demand which is says - rents are set primarily by supply and demand which is why says - rents are set primarily by supply and demand which is why so supply and demand which is why so many supply and demand which is why so many of supply and demand which is why so many of our supply and demand which is why so many of our policies supply and demand which is why so many of our policies are supply and demand which is why so many of our policies are designed supply and demand which is why so many of our policies are designed to many of our policies are designed to increase many of our policies are designed to increase the many of our policies are designed to increase the supply many of our policies are designed to increase the supply of many of our policies are designed to increase the supply of housing. many of our policies are designed to increase the supply of housing. We increase the supply of housing. We consulted increase the supply of housing. We consulted on increase the supply of housing. We consulted on limiting increase the supply of housing. We consulted on limiting rent increase the supply of housing. We consulted on limiting rent increases consulted on limiting rent increases to consulted on limiting rent increases to one consulted on limiting rent increases to one per consulted on limiting rent increases to one per year consulted on limiting rent increases to one per year because consulted on limiting rent increases to one per year because in consulted on limiting rent increases to one per year because in a consulted on limiting rent increases to one per year because in a rising to one per year because in a rising market, to one per year because in a rising market, as to one per year because in a rising market, as we to one per year because in a rising market, as we have to one per year because in a rising market, as we have seen to one per year because in a rising market, as we have seen over to one per year because in a rising market, as we have seen over the market, as we have seen over the last market, as we have seen over the last decade market, as we have seen over the last decade in market, as we have seen over the last decade in so market, as we have seen over the last decade in so many market, as we have seen over the last decade in so many parts market, as we have seen over the last decade in so many parts of market, as we have seen over the last decade in so many parts of New last decade in so many parts of New Zealand, last decade in so many parts of New Zealand, frequent last decade in so many parts of New Zealand, frequent and last decade in so many parts of New Zealand, frequent and large last decade in so many parts of New Zealand, frequent and large rent Zealand, frequent and large rent increases Zealand, frequent and large rent increases can Zealand, frequent and large rent increases can have Zealand, frequent and large rent increases can have a Zealand, frequent and large rent increases can have a punishing increases can have a punishing effect increases can have a punishing effect on increases can have a punishing effect on renters. increases can have a punishing effect on renters. Question increases can have a punishing effect on renters. Question No. increases can have a punishing effect on renters. Question No. ... effect on renters. Question No. ... Thank effect on renters. Question No. ... Thank you, effect on renters. Question No. ... Thank you, sir. effect on renters. Question No. ... Thank you, sir. What effect on renters. Question No. ... Thank you, sir. What are effect on renters. Question No. ... Thank you, sir. What are the effect on renters. Question No. ... Thank you, sir. What are the changes Thank you, sir. What are the changes has Thank you, sir. What are the changes has the Thank you, sir. What are the changes has the Government Thank you, sir. What are the changes has the Government made Thank you, sir. What are the changes has the Government made to Thank you, sir. What are the changes has the Government made to make Thank you, sir. What are the changes has the Government made to make life has the Government made to make life better has the Government made to make life better for has the Government made to make life better for renters? has the Government made to make life better for renters? The has the Government made to make life better for renters? The healthy better for renters? The healthy homes better for renters? The healthy homes standard better for renters? The healthy homes standard will better for renters? The healthy homes standard will set better for renters? The healthy homes standard will set minimum homes standard will set minimum standards homes standard will set minimum standards for homes standard will set minimum standards for insulation, homes standard will set minimum standards for insulation, heating, standards for insulation, heating, ventilation, standards for insulation, heating, ventilation, moisture standards for insulation, heating, ventilation, moisture and standards for insulation, heating, ventilation, moisture and draft ventilation, moisture and draft control ventilation, moisture and draft control so ventilation, moisture and draft control so that ventilation, moisture and draft control so that rental ventilation, moisture and draft control so that rental homes ventilation, moisture and draft control so that rental homes are control so that rental homes are warm control so that rental homes are warm and control so that rental homes are warm and dry. control so that rental homes are warm and dry. They're control so that rental homes are warm and dry. They're part control so that rental homes are warm and dry. They're part of control so that rental homes are warm and dry. They're part of the warm and dry. They're part of the Government's warm and dry. They're part of the Government's plan warm and dry. They're part of the Government's plan to warm and dry. They're part of the Government's plan to improve warm and dry. They're part of the Government's plan to improve the Government's plan to improve the health Government's plan to improve the health and Government's plan to improve the health and wellbeing Government's plan to improve the health and wellbeing of Government's plan to improve the health and wellbeing of children. health and wellbeing of children. Ministry health and wellbeing of children. Ministry of health and wellbeing of children. Ministry of Health health and wellbeing of children. Ministry of Health data health and wellbeing of children. Ministry of Health data shows health and wellbeing of children. Ministry of Health data shows that Ministry of Health data shows that at Ministry of Health data shows that at least Ministry of Health data shows that at least 6,000 Ministry of Health data shows that at least 6,000 children Ministry of Health data shows that at least 6,000 children are Ministry of Health data shows that at least 6,000 children are admitted at least 6,000 children are admitted each at least 6,000 children are admitted each year at least 6,000 children are admitted each year for at least 6,000 children are admitted each year for what at least 6,000 children are admitted each year for what they at least 6,000 children are admitted each year for what they call at least 6,000 children are admitted each year for what they call housing each year for what they call housing sensitive each year for what they call housing sensitive hospitalisedations each year for what they call housing sensitive hospitalisedations and each year for what they call housing sensitive hospitalisedations and the sensitive hospitalisedations and the Otago sensitive hospitalisedations and the Otago University sensitive hospitalisedations and the Otago University recently sensitive hospitalisedations and the Otago University recently found sensitive hospitalisedations and the Otago University recently found that Otago University recently found that homes Otago University recently found that homes that Otago University recently found that homes that are Otago University recently found that homes that are damp Otago University recently found that homes that are damp or Otago University recently found that homes that are damp or moldy Otago University recently found that homes that are damp or moldy cause homes that are damp or moldy cause more homes that are damp or moldy cause more than homes that are damp or moldy cause more than 35,000 homes that are damp or moldy cause more than 35,000 nights homes that are damp or moldy cause more than 35,000 nights in homes that are damp or moldy cause more than 35,000 nights in hospital. more than 35,000 nights in hospital. Mr more than 35,000 nights in hospital. Mr Speaker. more than 35,000 nights in hospital. Mr Speaker. Question more than 35,000 nights in hospital. Mr Speaker. Question No. more than 35,000 nights in hospital. Mr Speaker. Question No. 10. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Associate My question is to the Associate Minister My question is to the Associate Minister of My question is to the Associate Minister of Education: Minister of Education: Does Minister of Education: Does she Minister of Education: Does she accept Minister of Education: Does she accept responsibility Does she accept responsibility for Does she accept responsibility for waiting Does she accept responsibility for waiting times Does she accept responsibility for waiting times for Does she accept responsibility for waiting times for early for waiting times for early intervention for waiting times for early intervention support for waiting times for early intervention support climbing intervention support climbing from intervention support climbing from an intervention support climbing from an average intervention support climbing from an average of intervention support climbing from an average of 74 intervention support climbing from an average of 74 days intervention support climbing from an average of 74 days in intervention support climbing from an average of 74 days in May from an average of 74 days in May 2018 from an average of 74 days in May 2018 to from an average of 74 days in May 2018 to an from an average of 74 days in May 2018 to an average from an average of 74 days in May 2018 to an average of from an average of 74 days in May 2018 to an average of 106 from an average of 74 days in May 2018 to an average of 106 days from an average of 74 days in May 2018 to an average of 106 days now, 2018 to an average of 106 days now, and 2018 to an average of 106 days now, and by 2018 to an average of 106 days now, and by what 2018 to an average of 106 days now, and by what date 2018 to an average of 106 days now, and by what date will 2018 to an average of 106 days now, and by what date will she 2018 to an average of 106 days now, and by what date will she deliver and by what date will she deliver a and by what date will she deliver a reduction and by what date will she deliver a reduction in and by what date will she deliver a reduction in waiting and by what date will she deliver a reduction in waiting times a reduction in waiting times to a reduction in waiting times to fewer a reduction in waiting times to fewer than a reduction in waiting times to fewer than 74 a reduction in waiting times to fewer than 74 days? 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So we are constantly aspirational for the constantly aspirational for the wellbeing constantly aspirational for the wellbeing of constantly aspirational for the wellbeing of children constantly aspirational for the wellbeing of children which constantly aspirational for the wellbeing of children which is constantly aspirational for the wellbeing of children which is more wellbeing of children which is more than wellbeing of children which is more than can wellbeing of children which is more than can be wellbeing of children which is more than can be said wellbeing of children which is more than can be said for wellbeing of children which is more than can be said for that wellbeing of children which is more than can be said for that member wellbeing of children which is more than can be said for that member and than can be said for that member and that than can be said for that member and that party. than can be said for that member and that party. <INTERRUPTION> that party. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary that party. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary question. Supplementary question. Supplementary. Supplementary question. Supplementary. Will Supplementary question. Supplementary. Will she Supplementary question. Supplementary. Will she recalibrate Supplementary. Will she recalibrate the Supplementary. Will she recalibrate the PM's Supplementary. Will she recalibrate the PM's target Supplementary. Will she recalibrate the PM's target to Supplementary. Will she recalibrate the PM's target to halve Supplementary. Will she recalibrate the PM's target to halve waiting the PM's target to halve waiting lists? the PM's target to halve waiting lists? And the PM's target to halve waiting lists? And if the PM's target to halve waiting lists? And if so, the PM's target to halve waiting lists? And if so, she the PM's target to halve waiting lists? And if so, she will the PM's target to halve waiting lists? And if so, she will consider lists? And if so, she will consider taking lists? And if so, she will consider taking advise lists? And if so, she will consider taking advise from lists? And if so, she will consider taking advise from your lists? And if so, she will consider taking advise from your ministerial taking advise from your ministerial colleague taking advise from your ministerial colleague Phil taking advise from your ministerial colleague Phil Twyford taking advise from your ministerial colleague Phil Twyford on taking advise from your ministerial colleague Phil Twyford on how taking advise from your ministerial colleague Phil Twyford on how to taking advise from your ministerial colleague Phil Twyford on how to go colleague Phil Twyford on how to go about colleague Phil Twyford on how to go about this? colleague Phil Twyford on how to go about this? No. colleague Phil Twyford on how to go about this? No. The colleague Phil Twyford on how to go about this? No. The member colleague Phil Twyford on how to go about this? No. The member knows about this? No. The member knows that's about this? No. The member knows that's out about this? No. The member knows that's out of about this? No. The member knows that's out of order. about this? No. The member knows that's out of order. She's about this? No. The member knows that's out of order. She's been that's out of order. She's been around that's out of order. She's been around the that's out of order. She's been around the building that's out of order. She's been around the building for that's out of order. She's been around the building for a that's out of order. She's been around the building for a long that's out of order. She's been around the building for a long time. around the building for a long time. By around the building for a long time. By what around the building for a long time. By what date around the building for a long time. By what date will around the building for a long time. By what date will the around the building for a long time. By what date will the Government By what date will the Government deliver By what date will the Government deliver any By what date will the Government deliver any meaningful By what date will the Government deliver any meaningful improvement deliver any meaningful improvement for deliver any meaningful improvement for parents deliver any meaningful improvement for parents and deliver any meaningful improvement for parents and children deliver any meaningful improvement for parents and children in for parents and children in Wellington for parents and children in Wellington who for parents and children in Wellington who today for parents and children in Wellington who today are for parents and children in Wellington who today are waiting for parents and children in Wellington who today are waiting an Wellington who today are waiting an average Wellington who today are waiting an average of Wellington who today are waiting an average of 178 Wellington who today are waiting an average of 178 days Wellington who today are waiting an average of 178 days for Wellington who today are waiting an average of 178 days for early average of 178 days for early intervention average of 178 days for early intervention support? average of 178 days for early intervention support? 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Order! in the unemployment rate to... Order! Mr in the unemployment rate to... Order! Mr Bennett, in the unemployment rate to... Order! Mr Bennett, can in the unemployment rate to... Order! Mr Bennett, can you in the unemployment rate to... Order! Mr Bennett, can you just in the unemployment rate to... Order! Mr Bennett, can you just try Order! Mr Bennett, can you just try to Order! Mr Bennett, can you just try to control Order! Mr Bennett, can you just try to control yourself? Order! Mr Bennett, can you just try to control yourself? I Order! Mr Bennett, can you just try to control yourself? I had Order! Mr Bennett, can you just try to control yourself? I had - Order! Mr Bennett, can you just try to control yourself? I had - I Order! Mr Bennett, can you just try to control yourself? I had - I had to control yourself? I had - I had meetings to control yourself? I had - I had meetings with to control yourself? I had - I had meetings with prime to control yourself? I had - I had meetings with prime Yates to control yourself? 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What work -- is working remarkably well. What did work -- is working remarkably well. What did the work -- is working remarkably well. What did the household work -- is working remarkably well. What did the household labour work -- is working remarkably well. What did the household labour force What did the household labour force survey What did the household labour force survey release What did the household labour force survey release indicate What did the household labour force survey release indicate for What did the household labour force survey release indicate for Maori? survey release indicate for Maori? Mr survey release indicate for Maori? Mr Speaker, survey release indicate for Maori? Mr Speaker, I survey release indicate for Maori? Mr Speaker, I was survey release indicate for Maori? Mr Speaker, I was encouraged survey release indicate for Maori? Mr Speaker, I was encouraged to survey release indicate for Maori? Mr Speaker, I was encouraged to see Mr Speaker, I was encouraged to see the Mr Speaker, I was encouraged to see the - Mr Speaker, I was encouraged to see the - that Mr Speaker, I was encouraged to see the - that Maori Mr Speaker, I was encouraged to see the - that Maori employment Mr Speaker, I was encouraged to see the - that Maori employment has the - that Maori employment has continued the - that Maori employment has continued to the - that Maori employment has continued to head the - that Maori employment has continued to head in the - that Maori employment has continued to head in the the - that Maori employment has continued to head in the right continued to head in the right direction. continued to head in the right direction. 5,100 continued to head in the right direction. 5,100 nor continued to head in the right direction. 5,100 nor Maori continued to head in the right direction. 5,100 nor Maori were direction. 5,100 nor Maori were employed direction. 5,100 nor Maori were employed and direction. 5,100 nor Maori were employed and the direction. 5,100 nor Maori were employed and the underutilisation employed and the underutilisation rates employed and the underutilisation rates for employed and the underutilisation rates for Maori employed and the underutilisation rates for Maori fell employed and the underutilisation rates for Maori fell 1.7 employed and the underutilisation rates for Maori fell 1.7 percentage rates for Maori fell 1.7 percentage points rates for Maori fell 1.7 percentage points to rates for Maori fell 1.7 percentage points to a rates for Maori fell 1.7 percentage points to a level rates for Maori fell 1.7 percentage points to a level of rates for Maori fell 1.7 percentage points to a level of 19.1%. rates for Maori fell 1.7 percentage points to a level of 19.1%. Maori points to a level of 19.1%. Maori unemployment points to a level of 19.1%. Maori unemployment fell points to a level of 19.1%. Maori unemployment fell a points to a level of 19.1%. Maori unemployment fell a whole points to a level of 19.1%. Maori unemployment fell a whole percentage unemployment fell a whole percentage point, unemployment fell a whole percentage point, sir, unemployment fell a whole percentage point, sir, to unemployment fell a whole percentage point, sir, to 8.6%, unemployment fell a whole percentage point, sir, to 8.6%, I unemployment fell a whole percentage point, sir, to 8.6%, I believe unemployment fell a whole percentage point, sir, to 8.6%, I believe the point, sir, to 8.6%, I believe the lowest point, sir, to 8.6%, I believe the lowest ever point, sir, to 8.6%, I believe the lowest ever in point, sir, to 8.6%, I believe the lowest ever in the point, sir, to 8.6%, I believe the lowest ever in the history point, sir, to 8.6%, I believe the lowest ever in the history of point, sir, to 8.6%, I believe the lowest ever in the history of the lowest ever in the history of the survey. lowest ever in the history of the survey. These lowest ever in the history of the survey. These figures lowest ever in the history of the survey. These figures represent lowest ever in the history of the survey. These figures represent real survey. These figures represent real people, survey. These figures represent real people, real survey. These figures represent real people, real whanau survey. These figures represent real people, real whanau and survey. These figures represent real people, real whanau and real people, real whanau and real communities. people, real whanau and real communities. We're people, real whanau and real communities. We're seeing people, real whanau and real communities. We're seeing a communities. We're seeing a difference communities. We're seeing a difference in communities. We're seeing a difference in their communities. We're seeing a difference in their lives communities. We're seeing a difference in their lives and communities. We're seeing a difference in their lives and we difference in their lives and we should difference in their lives and we should all difference in their lives and we should all celebrate difference in their lives and we should all celebrate this difference in their lives and we should all celebrate this Government should all celebrate this Government is should all celebrate this Government is doing should all celebrate this Government is doing such should all celebrate this Government is doing such a should all celebrate this Government is doing such a fantastic should all celebrate this Government is doing such a fantastic job should all celebrate this Government is doing such a fantastic job at should all celebrate this Government is doing such a fantastic job at the is doing such a fantastic job at the moment. is doing such a fantastic job at the moment. Supplementary. is doing such a fantastic job at the moment. Supplementary. What is doing such a fantastic job at the moment. 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Mr training or employment falling to 13. 2%. Mr Speaker, training or employment falling to 13. 2%. Mr Speaker, obviously training or employment falling to 13. 2%. Mr Speaker, obviously we 13. 2%. Mr Speaker, obviously we still 13. 2%. Mr Speaker, obviously we still need 13. 2%. Mr Speaker, obviously we still need to 13. 2%. Mr Speaker, obviously we still need to reduce 13. 2%. Mr Speaker, obviously we still need to reduce this 13. 2%. Mr Speaker, obviously we still need to reduce this number still need to reduce this number further still need to reduce this number further which still need to reduce this number further which is still need to reduce this number further which is why still need to reduce this number further which is why the still need to reduce this number further which is why the delivery still need to reduce this number further which is why the delivery of further which is why the delivery of our further which is why the delivery of our training further which is why the delivery of our training and further which is why the delivery of our training and employment our training and employment programmes our training and employment programmes such our training and employment programmes such as our training and employment programmes such as Mana our training and employment programmes such as Mana in our training and employment programmes such as Mana in Mahi our training and employment programmes such as Mana in Mahi and programmes such as Mana in Mahi and first programmes such as Mana in Mahi and first year's programmes such as Mana in Mahi and first year's fee programmes such as Mana in Mahi and first year's fee tree programmes such as Mana in Mahi and first year's fee tree tuition programmes such as Mana in Mahi and first year's fee tree tuition is first year's fee tree tuition is vital first year's fee tree tuition is vital to first year's fee tree tuition is vital to the first year's fee tree tuition is vital to the long first year's fee tree tuition is vital to the long term first year's fee tree tuition is vital to the long term success first year's fee tree tuition is vital to the long term success of vital to the long term success of our vital to the long term success of our rangatahi, vital to the long term success of our rangatahi, young vital to the long term success of our rangatahi, young people. our rangatahi, young people. Question success success of success of our success of our rangitahi, success of our rangitahi, our success of our rangitahi, our young success of our rangitahi, our young people. success of our rangitahi, our young people. Question success of our rangitahi, our young people. Question No.12. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Statistics: Statistics: Does Statistics: Does he Statistics: Does he stand Statistics: Does he stand by Statistics: Does he stand by his Statistics: Does he stand by his statement Does he stand by his statement regarding Does he stand by his statement regarding Census Does he stand by his statement regarding Census 2018 Does he stand by his statement regarding Census 2018 that regarding Census 2018 that "the regarding Census 2018 that "the input regarding Census 2018 that "the input was regarding Census 2018 that "the input was sub-optimal, "the input was sub-optimal, but "the input was sub-optimal, but the "the input was sub-optimal, but the output "the input was sub-optimal, but the output is "the input was sub-optimal, but the output is optimal"? The The Hon The Hon James The Hon James Shaw. The Hon James Shaw. Yes. The Hon James Shaw. Yes. Is The Hon James Shaw. Yes. Is he The Hon James Shaw. Yes. Is he aware The Hon James Shaw. Yes. Is he aware that The Hon James Shaw. Yes. Is he aware that Statistics The Hon James Shaw. Yes. Is he aware that Statistics NZ The Hon James Shaw. Yes. Is he aware that Statistics NZ changed The Hon James Shaw. Yes. Is he aware that Statistics NZ changed the that Statistics NZ changed the definition that Statistics NZ changed the definition offot that Statistics NZ changed the definition offot no that Statistics NZ changed the definition offot no response" that Statistics NZ changed the definition offot no response" for definition offot no response" for Census definition offot no response" for Census 23018 definition offot no response" for Census 23018 and definition offot no response" for Census 23018 and that definition offot no response" for Census 23018 and that 2018, definition offot no response" for Census 23018 and that 2018, and definition offot no response" for Census 23018 and that 2018, and that Census 23018 and that 2018, and that if Census 23018 and that 2018, and that if the Census 23018 and that 2018, and that if the past Census 23018 and that 2018, and that if the past definition Census 23018 and that 2018, and that if the past definition were Census 23018 and that 2018, and that if the past definition were applied if the past definition were applied to if the past definition were applied to census if the past definition were applied to census 2018 if the past definition were applied to census 2018 the if the past definition were applied to census 2018 the response if the past definition were applied to census 2018 the response rate if the past definition were applied to census 2018 the response rate of to census 2018 the response rate of the to census 2018 the response rate of the census to census 2018 the response rate of the census would to census 2018 the response rate of the census would actually to census 2018 the response rate of the census would actually drop to census 2018 the response rate of the census would actually drop from the census would actually drop from 90% the census would actually drop from 90% to the census would actually drop from 90% to 85%? the census would actually drop from 90% to 85%? Mr the census would actually drop from 90% to 85%? Mr Speaker, the census would actually drop from 90% to 85%? Mr Speaker, it's the census would actually drop from 90% to 85%? Mr Speaker, it's obvious 90% to 85%? Mr Speaker, it's obvious that 90% to 85%? Mr Speaker, it's obvious that over 90% to 85%? Mr Speaker, it's obvious that over the 90% to 85%? Mr Speaker, it's obvious that over the course 90% to 85%? Mr Speaker, it's obvious that over the course of 90% to 85%? Mr Speaker, it's obvious that over the course of the 90% to 85%? Mr Speaker, it's obvious that over the course of the last 90% to 85%? Mr Speaker, it's obvious that over the course of the last 12 that over the course of the last 12 months that over the course of the last 12 months since that over the course of the last 12 months since the that over the course of the last 12 months since the census that over the course of the last 12 months since the census a that over the course of the last 12 months since the census a great that over the course of the last 12 months since the census a great deal months since the census a great deal of months since the census a great deal of work months since the census a great deal of work has months since the census a great deal of work has gone months since the census a great deal of work has gone on months since the census a great deal of work has gone on to months since the census a great deal of work has gone on to make months since the census a great deal of work has gone on to make sure of work has gone on to make sure that of work has gone on to make sure months of work has gone on to make sure that the output of work has gone on to make sure that the output of of work has gone on to make sure that the output of the of work has gone on to make sure that the output of the census of work has gone on to make sure that the output of the census is that the output of the census is optimal, that the output of the census is optimal, as that the output of the census is optimal, as I that the output of the census is optimal, as I was that the output of the census is optimal, as I was explaining. that the output of the census is optimal, as I was explaining. 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And that that has involved a great deal that that has involved a great deal of that that has involved a great deal of work that that has involved a great deal of work that that that has involved a great deal of work that would that that has involved a great deal of work that would have that that has involved a great deal of work that would have been of work that would have been normally of work that would have been normally scheduled of work that would have been normally scheduled for of work that would have been normally scheduled for the of work that would have been normally scheduled for the 2023 normally scheduled for the 2023 census normally scheduled for the 2023 census and normally scheduled for the 2023 census and has normally scheduled for the 2023 census and has effectively normally scheduled for the 2023 census and has effectively been census and has effectively been brought census and has effectively been brought forward. census and has effectively been brought forward. Will census and has effectively been brought forward. Will the census and has effectively been brought forward. Will the result brought forward. Will the result from brought forward. Will the result from Census brought forward. Will the result from Census 2018 brought forward. Will the result from Census 2018 be brought forward. Will the result from Census 2018 be able brought forward. Will the result from Census 2018 be able to brought forward. Will the result from Census 2018 be able to specify from Census 2018 be able to specify the from Census 2018 be able to specify the address from Census 2018 be able to specify the address on from Census 2018 be able to specify the address on census from Census 2018 be able to specify the address on census night from Census 2018 be able to specify the address on census night of from Census 2018 be able to specify the address on census night of the the address on census night of the 10% the address on census night of the 10% of the address on census night of the 10% of New the address on census night of the 10% of New Zealanders the address on census night of the 10% of New Zealanders who the address on census night of the 10% of New Zealanders who were the address on census night of the 10% of New Zealanders who were not 10% of New Zealanders who were not included 10% of New Zealanders who were not included in 10% of New Zealanders who were not included in any 10% of New Zealanders who were not included in any 2018 10% of New Zealanders who were not included in any 2018 census 10% of New Zealanders who were not included in any 2018 census form? included in any 2018 census form? 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