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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. Point Point of Point of order. Point of order. I Point of order. I seek Point of order. I seek leave Point of order. I seek leave to Point of order. I seek leave to move Point of order. I seek leave to move a Point of order. I seek leave to move a motion I seek leave to move a motion without I seek leave to move a motion without notice I seek leave to move a motion without notice and I seek leave to move a motion without notice and without I seek leave to move a motion without notice and without debate without notice and without debate to without notice and without debate to commemorate without notice and without debate to commemorate the without notice and without debate to commemorate the 75th without notice and without debate to commemorate the 75th anniversary to commemorate the 75th anniversary of to commemorate the 75th anniversary of the to commemorate the 75th anniversary of the fall to commemorate the 75th anniversary of the fall of to commemorate the 75th anniversary of the fall of Cassino. of the fall of Cassino. Is of the fall of Cassino. Is there of the fall of Cassino. Is there any Is there any objection Is there any objection to Is there any objection to that Is there any objection to that course objection to that course of objection to that course of action objection to that course of action being objection to that course of action being followed? of action being followed? There of action being followed? There is of action being followed? There is none. There is none. I There is none. I move There is none. I move that There is none. I move that this There is none. I move that this House There is none. I move that this House recognise I move that this House recognise that I move that this House recognise that 18 I move that this House recognise that 18 May I move that this House recognise that 18 May 2019 I move that this House recognise that 18 May 2019 is I move that this House recognise that 18 May 2019 is the I move that this House recognise that 18 May 2019 is the 75th that 18 May 2019 is the 75th anniversary that 18 May 2019 is the 75th anniversary of that 18 May 2019 is the 75th anniversary of the that 18 May 2019 is the 75th anniversary of the fall that 18 May 2019 is the 75th anniversary of the fall of that 18 May 2019 is the 75th anniversary of the fall of Cassino, anniversary of the fall of Cassino, which anniversary of the fall of Cassino, which brought anniversary of the fall of Cassino, which brought to anniversary of the fall of Cassino, which brought to an anniversary of the fall of Cassino, which brought to an end anniversary of the fall of Cassino, which brought to an end one which brought to an end one of which brought to an end one of the which brought to an end one of the most which brought to an end one of the most brutal which brought to an end one of the most brutal and which brought to an end one of the most brutal and costly of the most brutal and costly battles of the most brutal and costly battles in of the most brutal and costly battles in which of the most brutal and costly battles in which New of the most brutal and costly battles in which New Zealand of the most brutal and costly battles in which New Zealand forces battles in which New Zealand forces fought battles in which New Zealand forces fought during battles in which New Zealand forces fought during the battles in which New Zealand forces fought during the Second battles in which New Zealand forces fought during the Second World battles in which New Zealand forces fought during the Second World War. fought during the Second World War. The fought during the Second World War. The question fought during the Second World War. The question is The question is that The question is that the The question is that the motion The question is that the motion be The question is that the motion be agreed The question is that the motion be agreed to. that the motion be agreed to. Those that the motion be agreed to. Those of that the motion be agreed to. Those of that that the motion be agreed to. Those of that opinion that the motion be agreed to. Those of that opinion will that the motion be agreed to. Those of that opinion will say that the motion be agreed to. Those of that opinion will say Aye, Those of that opinion will say Aye, to Those of that opinion will say Aye, to the Those of that opinion will say Aye, to the contrary, Those of that opinion will say Aye, to the contrary, No. to the contrary, No. The to the contrary, No. The Ayes to the contrary, No. The Ayes have to the contrary, No. The Ayes have it. The Ayes have it. Point The Ayes have it. Point of The Ayes have it. Point of order. The The Hon The Hon Eugenie The Hon Eugenie Sage. I I seek I seek leave I seek leave to I seek leave to move I seek leave to move a I seek leave to move a motion I seek leave to move a motion without I seek leave to move a motion without notice I seek leave to move a motion without notice and I seek leave to move a motion without notice and without a motion without notice and without debate a motion without notice and without debate to a motion without notice and without debate to acknowledge a motion without notice and without debate to acknowledge the a motion without notice and without debate to acknowledge the global debate to acknowledge the global assessment debate to acknowledge the global assessment report debate to acknowledge the global assessment report of debate to acknowledge the global assessment report of the assessment report of the Intergovernmental assessment report of the Intergovernmental Science assessment report of the Intergovernmental Science and assessment report of the Intergovernmental Science and Policy Intergovernmental Science and Policy Panel Intergovernmental Science and Policy Panel on Intergovernmental Science and Policy Panel on Biodiversity Intergovernmental Science and Policy Panel on Biodiversity and Intergovernmental Science and Policy Panel on Biodiversity and Ecosystems Panel on Biodiversity and Ecosystems Services. Services. Is Services. Is there Services. Is there any Services. Is there any objection Services. Is there any objection to Services. Is there any objection to that Is there any objection to that course Is there any objection to that course of Is there any objection to that course of action Is there any objection to that course of action being Is there any objection to that course of action being followed? Yes, Yes, there Yes, there is Yes, there is a Yes, there is a process Yes, there is a process which Yes, there is a process which should Yes, there is a process which should have Yes, there is a process which should have been Yes, there is a process which should have been gone Yes, there is a process which should have been gone through. Yes, there is a process which should have been gone through. There Yes, there is a process which should have been gone through. There is have been gone through. There is objection? have been gone through. There is objection? No have been gone through. There is objection? No papers have been gone through. There is objection? No papers have have been gone through. There is objection? No papers have been objection? No papers have been presented. presented. No presented. No bills presented. No bills have presented. No bills have been presented. No bills have been introduced. No bills have been introduced. Petitions No bills have been introduced. Petitions have No bills have been introduced. Petitions have been No bills have been introduced. Petitions have been delivered No bills have been introduced. Petitions have been delivered to No bills have been introduced. Petitions have been delivered to the Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for presentation. Petition Petition of Petition of Eva Petition of Eva Cadario Petition of Eva Cadario requesting Petition of Eva Cadario requesting that Petition of Eva Cadario requesting that the Petition of Eva Cadario requesting that the House Petition of Eva Cadario requesting that the House of Petition of Eva Cadario requesting that the House of Representatives that the House of Representatives pass that the House of Representatives pass legislation that the House of Representatives pass legislation requiring pass legislation requiring Cook pass legislation requiring Cook Strait pass legislation requiring Cook Strait ferries pass legislation requiring Cook Strait ferries to pass legislation requiring Cook Strait ferries to provide Cook Strait ferries to provide designated Cook Strait ferries to provide designated seating Cook Strait ferries to provide designated seating areas designated seating areas on designated seating areas on the designated seating areas on the passenger designated seating areas on the passenger decks on the passenger decks for on the passenger decks for passengers on the passenger decks for passengers travelling on the passenger decks for passengers travelling with on the passenger decks for passengers travelling with dogs. for passengers travelling with dogs. Petition for passengers travelling with dogs. Petition of for passengers travelling with dogs. Petition of Neil for passengers travelling with dogs. Petition of Neil Graham Petition of Neil Graham for Petition of Neil Graham for Chronic Petition of Neil Graham for Chronic Lymphocytic Petition of Neil Graham for Chronic Lymphocytic Leukaemia for Chronic Lymphocytic Leukaemia Advocates for Chronic Lymphocytic Leukaemia Advocates New for Chronic Lymphocytic Leukaemia Advocates New Zealand Advocates New Zealand requesting Advocates New Zealand requesting that Advocates New Zealand requesting that the Advocates New Zealand requesting that the House Advocates New Zealand requesting that the House call requesting that the House call on requesting that the House call on the requesting that the House call on the Government requesting that the House call on the Government to requesting that the House call on the Government to approve on the Government to approve additional on the Government to approve additional budget on the Government to approve additional budget for on the Government to approve additional budget for PHARMAC additional budget for PHARMAC to additional budget for PHARMAC to fund additional budget for PHARMAC to fund ibrutinib additional budget for PHARMAC to fund ibrutinib and additional budget for PHARMAC to fund ibrutinib and venetoclax to fund ibrutinib and venetoclax at to fund ibrutinib and venetoclax at international to fund ibrutinib and venetoclax at international guidelines. at international guidelines. Petition at international guidelines. Petition of at international guidelines. Petition of Kenneth at international guidelines. Petition of Kenneth Romeril Petition of Kenneth Romeril requesting requesting that requesting that the requesting that the House requesting that the House call that the House call on that the House call on the that the House call on the Government that the House call on the Government to that the House call on the Government to approve that the House call on the Government to approve budget on the Government to approve budget for on the Government to approve budget for PHARMAC on the Government to approve budget for PHARMAC to on the Government to approve budget for PHARMAC to fund on the Government to approve budget for PHARMAC to fund myeloma for PHARMAC to fund myeloma treatments. treatments. Petition treatments. Petition of treatments. Petition of Philip treatments. Petition of Philip Hope Petition of Philip Hope requesting Petition of Philip Hope requesting that Petition of Philip Hope requesting that the Petition of Philip Hope requesting that the House Petition of Philip Hope requesting that the House call requesting that the House call on requesting that the House call on the requesting that the House call on the Government requesting that the House call on the Government to requesting that the House call on the Government to declare requesting that the House call on the Government to declare lung on the Government to declare lung cancer on the Government to declare lung cancer a on the Government to declare lung cancer a national on the Government to declare lung cancer a national health on the Government to declare lung cancer a national health priority cancer a national health priority and cancer a national health priority and to cancer a national health priority and to approve cancer a national health priority and to approve additional cancer a national health priority and to approve additional budget and to approve additional budget for and to approve additional budget for PHARMAC and to approve additional budget for PHARMAC to and to approve additional budget for PHARMAC to fund and to approve additional budget for PHARMAC to fund lung and to approve additional budget for PHARMAC to fund lung cancer for PHARMAC to fund lung cancer medications. medications. Petition medications. Petition of medications. Petition of DJ medications. Petition of DJ Whiting medications. Petition of DJ Whiting requesting Petition of DJ Whiting requesting that Petition of DJ Whiting requesting that the Petition of DJ Whiting requesting that the House Petition of DJ Whiting requesting that the House urge Petition of DJ Whiting requesting that the House urge PHARMAC Petition of DJ Whiting requesting that the House urge PHARMAC to Petition of DJ Whiting requesting that the House urge PHARMAC to fund that the House urge PHARMAC to fund lenalidomide that the House urge PHARMAC to fund lenalidomide for that the House urge PHARMAC to fund lenalidomide for any that the House urge PHARMAC to fund lenalidomide for any patient lenalidomide for any patient with lenalidomide for any patient with multiple lenalidomide for any patient with multiple myeloma lenalidomide for any patient with multiple myeloma - with multiple myeloma - newly with multiple myeloma - newly diagnosed with multiple myeloma - newly diagnosed or with multiple myeloma - newly diagnosed or relapsed with multiple myeloma - newly diagnosed or relapsed - newly diagnosed or relapsed - and newly diagnosed or relapsed - and also newly diagnosed or relapsed - and also urge newly diagnosed or relapsed - and also urge the newly diagnosed or relapsed - and also urge the Minister newly diagnosed or relapsed - and also urge the Minister of newly diagnosed or relapsed - and also urge the Minister of Health and also urge the Minister of Health to and also urge the Minister of Health to provide and also urge the Minister of Health to provide additional and also urge the Minister of Health to provide additional funding to provide additional funding to to provide additional funding to PHARMAC to provide additional funding to PHARMAC to to provide additional funding to PHARMAC to enable to provide additional funding to PHARMAC to enable this to provide additional funding to PHARMAC to enable this drug to PHARMAC to enable this drug to to PHARMAC to enable this drug to be to PHARMAC to enable this drug to be subsidised. to be subsidised. Petition to be subsidised. Petition of to be subsidised. Petition of Rachel to be subsidised. Petition of Rachel Brown Petition of Rachel Brown requesting Petition of Rachel Brown requesting that Petition of Rachel Brown requesting that the Petition of Rachel Brown requesting that the House Petition of Rachel Brown requesting that the House urge requesting that the House urge PHARMAC requesting that the House urge PHARMAC to requesting that the House urge PHARMAC to fund requesting that the House urge PHARMAC to fund Lynparza requesting that the House urge PHARMAC to fund Lynparza and requesting that the House urge PHARMAC to fund Lynparza and Avastin PHARMAC to fund Lynparza and Avastin for PHARMAC to fund Lynparza and Avastin for ovarian PHARMAC to fund Lynparza and Avastin for ovarian cancer, PHARMAC to fund Lynparza and Avastin for ovarian cancer, and PHARMAC to fund Lynparza and Avastin for ovarian cancer, and also PHARMAC to fund Lynparza and Avastin for ovarian cancer, and also urge for ovarian cancer, and also urge the for ovarian cancer, and also urge the Minister for ovarian cancer, and also urge the Minister of for ovarian cancer, and also urge the Minister of Health for ovarian cancer, and also urge the Minister of Health to for ovarian cancer, and also urge the Minister of Health to provide the Minister of Health to provide additional the Minister of Health to provide additional funding the Minister of Health to provide additional funding to the Minister of Health to provide additional funding to PHARMAC additional funding to PHARMAC to additional funding to PHARMAC to enable additional funding to PHARMAC to enable the additional funding to PHARMAC to enable the drugs to enable the drugs to to enable the drugs to be to enable the drugs to be subsidised. to be subsidised. Petition to be subsidised. Petition of to be subsidised. Petition of Emma to be subsidised. Petition of Emma Crowley Petition of Emma Crowley requesting Petition of Emma Crowley requesting that Petition of Emma Crowley requesting that the Petition of Emma Crowley requesting that the House requesting that the House urge requesting that the House urge the requesting that the House urge the Minister urge the Minister of urge the Minister of Health urge the Minister of Health to urge the Minister of Health to provide urge the Minister of Health to provide sufficient of Health to provide sufficient funding of Health to provide sufficient funding to of Health to provide sufficient funding to PHARMAC of Health to provide sufficient funding to PHARMAC to of Health to provide sufficient funding to PHARMAC to subsidise funding to PHARMAC to subsidise all funding to PHARMAC to subsidise all of funding to PHARMAC to subsidise all of the funding to PHARMAC to subsidise all of the drugs funding to PHARMAC to subsidise all of the drugs listed all of the drugs listed in all of the drugs listed in the all of the drugs listed in the European all of the drugs listed in the European ESMO all of the drugs listed in the European ESMO guidelines in the European ESMO guidelines for in the European ESMO guidelines for the in the European ESMO guidelines for the treatment in the European ESMO guidelines for the treatment of for the treatment of advanced for the treatment of advanced breast for the treatment of advanced breast cancer. advanced breast cancer. Petition advanced breast cancer. Petition of advanced breast cancer. Petition of James advanced breast cancer. Petition of James Ranstead Petition of James Ranstead requesting requesting that requesting that the requesting that the House requesting that the House of requesting that the House of Representatives that the House of Representatives urge that the House of Representatives urge the that the House of Representatives urge the Government that the House of Representatives urge the Government to that the House of Representatives urge the Government to restore urge the Government to restore student urge the Government to restore student allowance urge the Government to restore student allowance eligibility student allowance eligibility for student allowance eligibility for postgraduates student allowance eligibility for postgraduates before student allowance eligibility for postgraduates before the student allowance eligibility for postgraduates before the 2020 for postgraduates before the 2020 election, for postgraduates before the 2020 election, and for postgraduates before the 2020 election, and note for postgraduates before the 2020 election, and note that for postgraduates before the 2020 election, and note that 5,680 for postgraduates before the 2020 election, and note that 5,680 people election, and note that 5,680 people have election, and note that 5,680 people have signed election, and note that 5,680 people have signed an election, and note that 5,680 people have signed an online have signed an online petition have signed an online petition to have signed an online petition to this have signed an online petition to this effect. petition to this effect. Those petition to this effect. Those petitions petition to this effect. Those petitions stand petition to this effect. Those petitions stand referred Those petitions stand referred to Those petitions stand referred to a Those petitions stand referred to a select Those petitions stand referred to a select committee Those petitions stand referred to a select committee allocated to a select committee allocated by to a select committee allocated by the to a select committee allocated by the Clerk. Select Select committee Select committee reports Select committee reports have Select committee reports have been Select committee reports have been delivered Select committee reports have been delivered for Select committee reports have been delivered for presentation. delivered for presentation. Reports delivered for presentation. Reports of delivered for presentation. Reports of the delivered for presentation. Reports of the Health delivered for presentation. 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The bill is set down for second No. Sorry, yes, there was. The bill is set down for second reading. is set down for second reading. The is set down for second reading. The House is set down for second reading. The House now is set down for second reading. The House now comes is set down for second reading. The House now comes to is set down for second reading. The House now comes to oral The House now comes to oral questions. The House now comes to oral questions. Question The House now comes to oral questions. Question No. The House now comes to oral questions. Question No. 1 The House now comes to oral questions. Question No. 1 is The House now comes to oral questions. Question No. 1 is in The House now comes to oral questions. Question No. 1 is in the questions. Question No. 1 is in the name questions. Question No. 1 is in the name of questions. Question No. 1 is in the name of the questions. Question No. 1 is in the name of the Hon questions. Question No. 1 is in the name of the Hon Simon questions. Question No. 1 is in the name of the Hon Simon Bridges. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: Minister: Does Minister: Does she Minister: Does she stand Minister: Does she stand by Minister: Does she stand by all Minister: Does she stand by all her Does she stand by all her Government's Does she stand by all her Government's statements, Does she stand by all her Government's statements, policies, Government's statements, policies, and Government's statements, policies, and actions? The The Rt The Rt Hon The Rt Hon PM. The Rt Hon PM. Mr The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes. The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes. How The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes. How many The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes. How many of The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes. How many of the The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes. How many of the 42 The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes. How many of the 42 recommendations How many of the 42 recommendations How many of the 42 recommendations How many of the 42 recommendations of the How many of the 42 recommendations of the welfare How many of the 42 recommendations of the welfare working How many of the 42 recommendations of the welfare working group How many of the 42 recommendations of the welfare working group report of the welfare working group report will of the welfare working group report will the of the welfare working group report will the Government of the welfare working group report will the Government adopt? of the welfare working group report will the Government adopt? Mr will the Government adopt? Mr Speaker, will the Government adopt? Mr Speaker, the will the Government adopt? Mr Speaker, the member will the Government adopt? Mr Speaker, the member will will the Government adopt? Mr Speaker, the member will know will the Government adopt? 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And it's something that we have long flagged that we had an have long flagged that we had an issue have long flagged that we had an issue with, have long flagged that we had an issue with, and have long flagged that we had an issue with, and we have long flagged that we had an issue with, and we thought have long flagged that we had an issue with, and we thought was issue with, and we thought was negatively issue with, and we thought was negatively affecting issue with, and we thought was negatively affecting children. negatively affecting children. Isn't negatively affecting children. Isn't an negatively affecting children. Isn't an obligation negatively affecting children. Isn't an obligation without negatively affecting children. Isn't an obligation without a Isn't an obligation without a penalty Isn't an obligation without a penalty entirely Isn't an obligation without a penalty entirely meaningless, Isn't an obligation without a penalty entirely meaningless, and penalty entirely meaningless, and if, penalty entirely meaningless, and if, as penalty entirely meaningless, and if, as she penalty entirely meaningless, and if, as she says, penalty entirely meaningless, and if, as she says, is penalty entirely meaningless, and if, as she says, is discriminatory, if, as she says, is discriminatory, shouldn't if, as she says, is discriminatory, shouldn't she if, as she says, is discriminatory, shouldn't she just if, as she says, is discriminatory, shouldn't she just say if, as she says, is discriminatory, shouldn't she just say that if, as she says, is discriminatory, shouldn't she just say that rather shouldn't she just say that rather than shouldn't she just say that rather than play shouldn't she just say that rather than play around shouldn't she just say that rather than play around with shouldn't she just say that rather than play around with words? shouldn't she just say that rather than play around with words? Again, than play around with words? Again, as than play around with words? Again, as I've than play around with words? Again, as I've already than play around with words? Again, as I've already said, than play around with words? Again, as I've already said, it than play around with words? Again, as I've already said, it is as I've already said, it is impacting as I've already said, it is impacting negatively as I've already said, it is impacting negatively on as I've already said, it is impacting negatively on children. impacting negatively on children. That's impacting negatively on children. That's why impacting negatively on children. That's why we've impacting negatively on children. That's why we've taken impacting negatively on children. That's why we've taken a That's why we've taken a child-centred That's why we've taken a child-centred approach. That's why we've taken a child-centred approach. Mr That's why we've taken a child-centred approach. Mr Speaker, child-centred approach. Mr Speaker, the child-centred approach. Mr Speaker, the member child-centred approach. Mr Speaker, the member will child-centred approach. Mr Speaker, the member will well child-centred approach. Mr Speaker, the member will well know child-centred approach. Mr Speaker, the member will well know that child-centred approach. Mr Speaker, the member will well know that there the member will well know that there has the member will well know that there has been the member will well know that there has been some the member will well know that there has been some discussion the member will well know that there has been some discussion over the member will well know that there has been some discussion over time has been some discussion over time over has been some discussion over time over whether has been some discussion over time over whether or has been some discussion over time over whether or not has been some discussion over time over whether or not enough has been some discussion over time over whether or not enough of has been some discussion over time over whether or not enough of a over whether or not enough of a sense over whether or not enough of a sense of over whether or not enough of a sense of obligation over whether or not enough of a sense of obligation on over whether or not enough of a sense of obligation on paying over whether or not enough of a sense of obligation on paying child sense of obligation on paying child support sense of obligation on paying child support exists sense of obligation on paying child support exists because sense of obligation on paying child support exists because it's sense of obligation on paying child support exists because it's the support exists because it's the state support exists because it's the state that support exists because it's the state that retains support exists because it's the state that retains child support exists because it's the state that retains child support state that retains child support payments. state that retains child support payments. And state that retains child support payments. And so state that retains child support payments. And so if state that retains child support payments. And so if the state that retains child support payments. And so if the member state that retains child support payments. And so if the member wants payments. And so if the member wants to payments. And so if the member wants to discuss payments. And so if the member wants to discuss the payments. And so if the member wants to discuss the issue payments. And so if the member wants to discuss the issue of payments. And so if the member wants to discuss the issue of child to discuss the issue of child support to discuss the issue of child support pat-on, to discuss the issue of child support pat-on, we to discuss the issue of child support pat-on, we can to discuss the issue of child support pat-on, we can do to discuss the issue of child support pat-on, we can do -- support pat-on, we can do -- pass-on, support pat-on, we can do -- pass-on, we support pat-on, we can do -- pass-on, we can support pat-on, we can do -- pass-on, we can do support pat-on, we can do -- pass-on, we can do that. support pat-on, we can do -- pass-on, we can do that. But support pat-on, we can do -- pass-on, we can do that. But our pass-on, we can do that. But our view pass-on, we can do that. But our view is pass-on, we can do that. But our view is that pass-on, we can do that. But our view is that the pass-on, we can do that. But our view is that the penalty, pass-on, we can do that. But our view is that the penalty, the view is that the penalty, the sanction, view is that the penalty, the sanction, that view is that the penalty, the sanction, that exists view is that the penalty, the sanction, that exists is view is that the penalty, the sanction, that exists is negatively sanction, that exists is negatively affecting sanction, that exists is negatively affecting children sanction, that exists is negatively affecting children and sanction, that exists is negatively affecting children and impacting sanction, that exists is negatively affecting children and impacting on affecting children and impacting on child affecting children and impacting on child poverty. affecting children and impacting on child poverty. What affecting children and impacting on child poverty. What advice affecting children and impacting on child poverty. What advice did affecting children and impacting on child poverty. What advice did her child poverty. What advice did her Government child poverty. What advice did her Government receive child poverty. What advice did her Government receive on child poverty. What advice did her Government receive on how child poverty. What advice did her Government receive on how many child poverty. What advice did her Government receive on how many more Government receive on how many more women Government receive on how many more women won't Government receive on how many more women won't name Government receive on how many more women won't name the Government receive on how many more women won't name the father, Government receive on how many more women won't name the father, given women won't name the father, given the women won't name the father, given the scrapping women won't name the father, given the scrapping of women won't name the father, given the scrapping of the women won't name the father, given the scrapping of the obligation women won't name the father, given the scrapping of the obligation to the scrapping of the obligation to name the scrapping of the obligation to name both the scrapping of the obligation to name both parents? the scrapping of the obligation to name both parents? Mr the scrapping of the obligation to name both parents? Mr Speaker, the scrapping of the obligation to name both parents? Mr Speaker, I name both parents? Mr Speaker, I couldn't name both parents? Mr Speaker, I couldn't give name both parents? Mr Speaker, I couldn't give them name both parents? Mr Speaker, I couldn't give them that name both parents? Mr Speaker, I couldn't give them that level name both parents? Mr Speaker, I couldn't give them that level of couldn't give them that level of specificity couldn't give them that level of specificity at couldn't give them that level of specificity at this couldn't give them that level of specificity at this time. couldn't give them that level of specificity at this time. But, specificity at this time. But, again, specificity at this time. But, again, we've specificity at this time. But, again, we've made specificity at this time. But, again, we've made a specificity at this time. But, again, we've made a principled again, we've made a principled decision again, we've made a principled decision here again, we've made a principled decision here that again, we've made a principled decision here that there again, we've made a principled decision here that there will again, we've made a principled decision here that there will often decision here that there will often be decision here that there will often be a decision here that there will often be a range decision here that there will often be a range of decision here that there will often be a range of reasons. decision here that there will often be a range of reasons. As decision here that there will often be a range of reasons. As I decision here that there will often be a range of reasons. As I say, decision here that there will often be a range of reasons. As I say, the be a range of reasons. As I say, the obligation be a range of reasons. As I say, the obligation to be a range of reasons. As I say, the obligation to name be a range of reasons. As I say, the obligation to name still be a range of reasons. As I say, the obligation to name still exists, be a range of reasons. As I say, the obligation to name still exists, but obligation to name still exists, but we obligation to name still exists, but we do obligation to name still exists, but we do not obligation to name still exists, but we do not think obligation to name still exists, but we do not think it's obligation to name still exists, but we do not think it's right obligation to name still exists, but we do not think it's right that, obligation to name still exists, but we do not think it's right that, as we do not think it's right that, as a we do not think it's right that, as a consequence, we do not think it's right that, as a consequence, that we do not think it's right that, as a consequence, that that we do not think it's right that, as a consequence, that that sanction a consequence, that that sanction then a consequence, that that sanction then ultimately a consequence, that that sanction then ultimately will a consequence, that that sanction then ultimately will impact a consequence, that that sanction then ultimately will impact on then ultimately will impact on children. then ultimately will impact on children. If then ultimately will impact on children. If the then ultimately will impact on children. If the member then ultimately will impact on children. If the member wants then ultimately will impact on children. If the member wants to children. If the member wants to maintain children. If the member wants to maintain that children. If the member wants to maintain that those children. If the member wants to maintain that those families children. If the member wants to maintain that those families have maintain that those families have that maintain that those families have that penalty, maintain that those families have that penalty, which maintain that those families have that penalty, which can maintain that those families have that penalty, which can be, maintain that those families have that penalty, which can be, you that penalty, which can be, you know, that penalty, which can be, you know, significant that penalty, which can be, you know, significant for that penalty, which can be, you know, significant for a that penalty, which can be, you know, significant for a family that penalty, which can be, you know, significant for a family on that penalty, which can be, you know, significant for a family on a know, significant for a family on a low know, significant for a family on a low income, know, significant for a family on a low income, then know, significant for a family on a low income, then he know, significant for a family on a low income, then he is know, significant for a family on a low income, then he is entitled know, significant for a family on a low income, then he is entitled to low income, then he is entitled to that low income, then he is entitled to that opinion. that opinion. Does that opinion. Does she that opinion. Does she agree that opinion. Does she agree with that opinion. Does she agree with the that opinion. Does she agree with the welfare Does she agree with the welfare working Does she agree with the welfare working group's Does she agree with the welfare working group's recommendation Does she agree with the welfare working group's recommendation that working group's recommendation that MSD working group's recommendation that MSD should working group's recommendation that MSD should be working group's recommendation that MSD should be statutorily MSD should be statutorily accountable MSD should be statutorily accountable to MSD should be statutorily accountable to iwi MSD should be statutorily accountable to iwi and MSD should be statutorily accountable to iwi and Maori MSD should be statutorily accountable to iwi and Maori for accountable to iwi and Maori for achieving accountable to iwi and Maori for achieving wellbeing accountable to iwi and Maori for achieving wellbeing outcomes? accountable to iwi and Maori for achieving wellbeing outcomes? Mr achieving wellbeing outcomes? Mr Speaker, achieving wellbeing outcomes? Mr Speaker, yes. achieving wellbeing outcomes? Mr Speaker, yes. I achieving wellbeing outcomes? Mr Speaker, yes. I mean, achieving wellbeing outcomes? Mr Speaker, yes. I mean, well, achieving wellbeing outcomes? Mr Speaker, yes. I mean, well, there's Speaker, yes. I mean, well, there's a Speaker, yes. I mean, well, there's a - Speaker, yes. I mean, well, there's a - I Speaker, yes. I mean, well, there's a - I believe, Speaker, yes. I mean, well, there's a - I believe, an Speaker, yes. I mean, well, there's a - I believe, an obligation Speaker, yes. I mean, well, there's a - I believe, an obligation to Speaker, yes. I mean, well, there's a - I believe, an obligation to make a - I believe, an obligation to make sure a - I believe, an obligation to make sure that a - I believe, an obligation to make sure that we a - I believe, an obligation to make sure that we fulfil a - I believe, an obligation to make sure that we fulfil the a - I believe, an obligation to make sure that we fulfil the expectations sure that we fulfil the expectations on sure that we fulfil the expectations on all sure that we fulfil the expectations on all citizens sure that we fulfil the expectations on all citizens as sure that we fulfil the expectations on all citizens as well. sure that we fulfil the expectations on all citizens as well. But, sure that we fulfil the expectations on all citizens as well. But, of on all citizens as well. But, of course, on all citizens as well. But, of course, there on all citizens as well. But, of course, there are on all citizens as well. But, of course, there are specific course, there are specific expectations course, there are specific expectations as course, there are specific expectations as well course, there are specific expectations as well on course, there are specific expectations as well on the expectations as well on the overrepresentation expectations as well on the overrepresentation that expectations as well on the overrepresentation that we expectations as well on the overrepresentation that we have expectations as well on the overrepresentation that we have of overrepresentation that we have of Maori overrepresentation that we have of Maori within overrepresentation that we have of Maori within our overrepresentation that we have of Maori within our welfare overrepresentation that we have of Maori within our welfare system, Maori within our welfare system, also Maori within our welfare system, also within Maori within our welfare system, also within Oranga Maori within our welfare system, also within Oranga Tamariki. Maori within our welfare system, also within Oranga Tamariki. And Maori within our welfare system, also within Oranga Tamariki. And we also within Oranga Tamariki. And we should also within Oranga Tamariki. And we should not also within Oranga Tamariki. And we should not shy also within Oranga Tamariki. And we should not shy away also within Oranga Tamariki. And we should not shy away from also within Oranga Tamariki. And we should not shy away from addressing should not shy away from addressing those should not shy away from addressing those directly. should not shy away from addressing those directly. When, should not shy away from addressing those directly. When, then, should not shy away from addressing those directly. When, then, will those directly. When, then, will those those directly. When, then, will those statutory those directly. When, then, will those statutory accountabilities those directly. When, then, will those statutory accountabilities to those statutory accountabilities to iwi those statutory accountabilities to iwi and those statutory accountabilities to iwi and Maori those statutory accountabilities to iwi and Maori for those statutory accountabilities to iwi and Maori for achieving iwi and Maori for achieving wellbeing iwi and Maori for achieving wellbeing outcomes iwi and Maori for achieving wellbeing outcomes and iwi and Maori for achieving wellbeing outcomes and welfare iwi and Maori for achieving wellbeing outcomes and welfare be wellbeing outcomes and welfare be enacted? wellbeing outcomes and welfare be enacted? Mr wellbeing outcomes and welfare be enacted? Mr Speaker, wellbeing outcomes and welfare be enacted? Mr Speaker, as wellbeing outcomes and welfare be enacted? Mr Speaker, as I've wellbeing outcomes and welfare be enacted? Mr Speaker, as I've said, enacted? Mr Speaker, as I've said, there's enacted? Mr Speaker, as I've said, there's a enacted? Mr Speaker, as I've said, there's a number enacted? Mr Speaker, as I've said, there's a number of enacted? Mr Speaker, as I've said, there's a number of areas enacted? Mr Speaker, as I've said, there's a number of areas where enacted? Mr Speaker, as I've said, there's a number of areas where we there's a number of areas where we continue there's a number of areas where we continue to there's a number of areas where we continue to do there's a number of areas where we continue to do ongoing there's a number of areas where we continue to do ongoing work. there's a number of areas where we continue to do ongoing work. Who continue to do ongoing work. Who made continue to do ongoing work. Who made that continue to do ongoing work. Who made that noise? continue to do ongoing work. Who made that noise? I continue to do ongoing work. Who made that noise? I did. made that noise? I did. Well, made that noise? I did. Well, can...? made that noise? I did. Well, can...? Sorry, made that noise? I did. Well, can...? Sorry, I made that noise? I did. Well, can...? Sorry, I mean, made that noise? I did. Well, can...? Sorry, I mean, last Well, can...? Sorry, I mean, last week Well, can...? Sorry, I mean, last week I Well, can...? Sorry, I mean, last week I remonstrated Well, can...? Sorry, I mean, last week I remonstrated with Well, can...? Sorry, I mean, last week I remonstrated with a Well, can...? Sorry, I mean, last week I remonstrated with a member week I remonstrated with a member for week I remonstrated with a member for making week I remonstrated with a member for making a week I remonstrated with a member for making a noise week I remonstrated with a member for making a noise that week I remonstrated with a member for making a noise that is week I remonstrated with a member for making a noise that is not for making a noise that is not really for making a noise that is not really fit for making a noise that is not really fit for for making a noise that is not really fit for Parliament. for making a noise that is not really fit for Parliament. And for making a noise that is not really fit for Parliament. And I'd really fit for Parliament. And I'd just really fit for Parliament. And I'd just like really fit for Parliament. And I'd just like the really fit for Parliament. And I'd just like the Leader really fit for Parliament. And I'd just like the Leader of really fit for Parliament. And I'd just like the Leader of the just like the Leader of the Opposition just like the Leader of the Opposition to just like the Leader of the Opposition to show just like the Leader of the Opposition to show some just like the Leader of the Opposition to show some leadership. Opposition to show some leadership. I Opposition to show some leadership. I did Opposition to show some leadership. I did think Opposition to show some leadership. I did think it Opposition to show some leadership. I did think it was Opposition to show some leadership. I did think it was that Opposition to show some leadership. I did think it was that member I did think it was that member again. I did think it was that member again. The I did think it was that member again. The Rt I did think it was that member again. The Rt Hon I did think it was that member again. The Rt Hon Winston I did think it was that member again. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. again. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can again. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can I again. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can I ask again. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can I ask the again. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can I ask the PM again. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can I ask the PM whether again. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can I ask the PM whether or again. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can I ask the PM whether or not again. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can I ask the PM whether or not the Can I ask the PM whether or not the subject Can I ask the PM whether or not the subject raised Can I ask the PM whether or not the subject raised byd Can I ask the PM whether or not the subject raised byd the Can I ask the PM whether or not the subject raised byd the Leader Can I ask the PM whether or not the subject raised byd the Leader of Can I ask the PM whether or not the subject raised byd the Leader of the subject raised byd the Leader of the Opposition subject raised byd the Leader of the Opposition was subject raised byd the Leader of the Opposition was not subject raised byd the Leader of the Opposition was not identical subject raised byd the Leader of the Opposition was not identical in subject raised byd the Leader of the Opposition was not identical in the Opposition was not identical in the last Opposition was not identical in the last local Opposition was not identical in the last local Government Opposition was not identical in the last local Government bill Opposition was not identical in the last local Government bill that Opposition was not identical in the last local Government bill that they last local Government bill that they had last local Government bill that they had prepared? last local Government bill that they had prepared? Order! last local Government bill that they had prepared? Order! Mr last local Government bill that they had prepared? Order! Mr Speaker, had prepared? Order! Mr Speaker, that had prepared? Order! Mr Speaker, that is, had prepared? Order! Mr Speaker, that is, in had prepared? Order! Mr Speaker, that is, in fact, had prepared? Order! Mr Speaker, that is, in fact, true. had prepared? Order! Mr Speaker, that is, in fact, true. I had prepared? Order! Mr Speaker, that is, in fact, true. I also that is, in fact, true. I also recall that is, in fact, true. I also recall the that is, in fact, true. I also recall the very that is, in fact, true. I also recall the very specific that is, in fact, true. I also recall the very specific obligation recall the very specific obligation again recall the very specific obligation again in recall the very specific obligation again in discussion recall the very specific obligation again in discussion around recall the very specific obligation again in discussion around Oranga again in discussion around Oranga Tamariki, again in discussion around Oranga Tamariki, and again in discussion around Oranga Tamariki, and the again in discussion around Oranga Tamariki, and the last again in discussion around Oranga Tamariki, and the last Government Tamariki, and the last Government didn't Tamariki, and the last Government didn't have Tamariki, and the last Government didn't have that Tamariki, and the last Government didn't have that hesitation Tamariki, and the last Government didn't have that hesitation in didn't have that hesitation in acknowledging didn't have that hesitation in acknowledging that didn't have that hesitation in acknowledging that there didn't have that hesitation in acknowledging that there was didn't have that hesitation in acknowledging that there was work didn't have that hesitation in acknowledging that there was work to acknowledging that there was work to do acknowledging that there was work to do in acknowledging that there was work to do in that acknowledging that there was work to do in that overrepresentation acknowledging that there was work to do in that overrepresentation of do in that overrepresentation of Maori. do in that overrepresentation of Maori. Caught do in that overrepresentation of Maori. Caught out! do in that overrepresentation of Maori. Caught out! Does do in that overrepresentation of Maori. Caught out! Does she do in that overrepresentation of Maori. Caught out! Does she agree Maori. Caught out! Does she agree with Maori. Caught out! Does she agree with the Maori. Caught out! Does she agree with the Welfare Maori. Caught out! Does she agree with the Welfare Working Maori. Caught out! Does she agree with the Welfare Working Group's with the Welfare Working Group's recommendation with the Welfare Working Group's recommendation to with the Welfare Working Group's recommendation to remove with the Welfare Working Group's recommendation to remove obligations recommendation to remove obligations on recommendation to remove obligations on beneficiaries recommendation to remove obligations on beneficiaries to recommendation to remove obligations on beneficiaries to be recommendation to remove obligations on beneficiaries to be drug-free, recommendation to remove obligations on beneficiaries to be drug-free, to on beneficiaries to be drug-free, to have on beneficiaries to be drug-free, to have any on beneficiaries to be drug-free, to have any children on beneficiaries to be drug-free, to have any children they on beneficiaries to be drug-free, to have any children they have on beneficiaries to be drug-free, to have any children they have enrolled have any children they have enrolled with have any children they have enrolled with a have any children they have enrolled with a GP, have any children they have enrolled with a GP, and have any children they have enrolled with a GP, and to have any children they have enrolled with a GP, and to attend have any children they have enrolled with a GP, and to attend early with a GP, and to attend early childhood with a GP, and to attend early childhood or with a GP, and to attend early childhood or primary with a GP, and to attend early childhood or primary education? childhood or primary education? We childhood or primary education? We haven't childhood or primary education? We haven't made childhood or primary education? We haven't made final childhood or primary education? We haven't made final decisions childhood or primary education? We haven't made final decisions on We haven't made final decisions on some We haven't made final decisions on some of We haven't made final decisions on some of the We haven't made final decisions on some of the recommendations We haven't made final decisions on some of the recommendations that We haven't made final decisions on some of the recommendations that are some of the recommendations that are being some of the recommendations that are being made. some of the recommendations that are being made. And some of the recommendations that are being made. And there some of the recommendations that are being made. And there is some of the recommendations that are being made. And there is additional being made. And there is additional work being made. And there is additional work to being made. And there is additional work to be being made. And there is additional work to be done. work to be done. What work to be done. What does work to be done. What does she work to be done. What does she say work to be done. What does she say to work to be done. What does she say to former work to be done. What does she say to former Green work to be done. What does she say to former Green MP What does she say to former Green MP Sue What does she say to former Green MP Sue Bradford, What does she say to former Green MP Sue Bradford, who What does she say to former Green MP Sue Bradford, who said What does she say to former Green MP Sue Bradford, who said her Sue Bradford, who said her Government's Sue Bradford, who said her Government's response Sue Bradford, who said her Government's response to Sue Bradford, who said her Government's response to the Sue Bradford, who said her Government's response to the report Government's response to the report is Government's response to the report is "virtually Government's response to the report is "virtually useless" Government's response to the report is "virtually useless" and Government's response to the report is "virtually useless" and that Government's response to the report is "virtually useless" and that "I is "virtually useless" and that "I strongly is "virtually useless" and that "I strongly suspect is "virtually useless" and that "I strongly suspect it is "virtually useless" and that "I strongly suspect it will is "virtually useless" and that "I strongly suspect it will take is "virtually useless" and that "I strongly suspect it will take a is "virtually useless" and that "I strongly suspect it will take a way strongly suspect it will take a way more strongly suspect it will take a way more progressive strongly suspect it will take a way more progressive Government strongly suspect it will take a way more progressive Government than more progressive Government than this more progressive Government than this lot more progressive Government than this lot to more progressive Government than this lot to enact more progressive Government than this lot to enact serious more progressive Government than this lot to enact serious welfare this lot to enact serious welfare reform"? this lot to enact serious welfare reform"? I'd this lot to enact serious welfare reform"? I'd say this lot to enact serious welfare reform"? I'd say she this lot to enact serious welfare reform"? I'd say she would this lot to enact serious welfare reform"? I'd say she would still this lot to enact serious welfare reform"? I'd say she would still be reform"? I'd say she would still be vastly reform"? I'd say she would still be vastly happier reform"? I'd say she would still be vastly happier having reform"? I'd say she would still be vastly happier having this vastly happier having this Government vastly happier having this Government than vastly happier having this Government than that vastly happier having this Government than that last vastly happier having this Government than that last one. Government than that last one. What Government than that last one. What has Government than that last one. What has her Government than that last one. What has her Government Government than that last one. What has her Government achieved Government than that last one. What has her Government achieved in What has her Government achieved in welfare What has her Government achieved in welfare in What has her Government achieved in welfare in its What has her Government achieved in welfare in its year What has her Government achieved in welfare in its year of What has her Government achieved in welfare in its year of delivery welfare in its year of delivery other welfare in its year of delivery other than welfare in its year of delivery other than 13,000 welfare in its year of delivery other than 13,000 more welfare in its year of delivery other than 13,000 more beneficiaries other than 13,000 more beneficiaries on other than 13,000 more beneficiaries on job other than 13,000 more beneficiaries on job seeker other than 13,000 more beneficiaries on job seeker support? other than 13,000 more beneficiaries on job seeker support? Mr other than 13,000 more beneficiaries on job seeker support? Mr Speaker, on job seeker support? Mr Speaker, thank on job seeker support? Mr Speaker, thank you on job seeker support? Mr Speaker, thank you for on job seeker support? Mr Speaker, thank you for the on job seeker support? Mr Speaker, thank you for the opportunity. on job seeker support? Mr Speaker, thank you for the opportunity. We thank you for the opportunity. We will thank you for the opportunity. We will be thank you for the opportunity. We will be employing thank you for the opportunity. We will be employing 170 thank you for the opportunity. We will be employing 170 extra thank you for the opportunity. We will be employing 170 extra case will be employing 170 extra case managers will be employing 170 extra case managers to will be employing 170 extra case managers to make will be employing 170 extra case managers to make sure will be employing 170 extra case managers to make sure - will be employing 170 extra case managers to make sure - to will be employing 170 extra case managers to make sure - to make will be employing 170 extra case managers to make sure - to make sure managers to make sure - to make sure that managers to make sure - to make sure that those managers to make sure - to make sure that those who managers to make sure - to make sure that those who are managers to make sure - to make sure that those who are seeking managers to make sure - to make sure that those who are seeking work managers to make sure - to make sure that those who are seeking work have that those who are seeking work have the that those who are seeking work have the support that those who are seeking work have the support to that those who are seeking work have the support to find that those who are seeking work have the support to find work. that those who are seeking work have the support to find work. Mr the support to find work. Mr Speaker, the support to find work. Mr Speaker, from the support to find work. Mr Speaker, from 1 the support to find work. Mr Speaker, from 1 May, the support to find work. Mr Speaker, from 1 May, the the support to find work. Mr Speaker, from 1 May, the Winter Speaker, from 1 May, the Winter Energy Speaker, from 1 May, the Winter Energy Payment Speaker, from 1 May, the Winter Energy Payment will Speaker, from 1 May, the Winter Energy Payment will be Speaker, from 1 May, the Winter Energy Payment will be affecting Energy Payment will be affecting over Energy Payment will be affecting over up Energy Payment will be affecting over up to Energy Payment will be affecting over up to a Energy Payment will be affecting over up to a million Energy Payment will be affecting over up to a million New Energy Payment will be affecting over up to a million New Zealanders. over up to a million New Zealanders. Families over up to a million New Zealanders. Families will over up to a million New Zealanders. Families will receive over up to a million New Zealanders. Families will receive $700 over up to a million New Zealanders. Families will receive $700 over Families will receive $700 over those Families will receive $700 over those winter Families will receive $700 over those winter months, Families will receive $700 over those winter months, including Families will receive $700 over those winter months, including those those winter months, including those families those winter months, including those families on those winter months, including those families on benefit those winter months, including those families on benefit and those winter months, including those families on benefit and Government families on benefit and Government support families on benefit and Government support and families on benefit and Government support and superannuitant families on benefit and Government support and superannuitant couples. support and superannuitant couples. $450 support and superannuitant couples. $450 over support and superannuitant couples. $450 over the support and superannuitant couples. $450 over the winter support and superannuitant couples. $450 over the winter months support and superannuitant couples. $450 over the winter months for $450 over the winter months for singles $450 over the winter months for singles so $450 over the winter months for singles so they $450 over the winter months for singles so they don't $450 over the winter months for singles so they don't decide $450 over the winter months for singles so they don't decide between singles so they don't decide between turning singles so they don't decide between turning the singles so they don't decide between turning the heater singles so they don't decide between turning the heater on singles so they don't decide between turning the heater on and singles so they don't decide between turning the heater on and putting turning the heater on and putting food turning the heater on and putting food on turning the heater on and putting food on the turning the heater on and putting food on the table. turning the heater on and putting food on the table. 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The two and three for those on low incomes. The most two and three for those on low incomes. The most significant two and three for those on low incomes. The most significant change incomes. The most significant change to incomes. The most significant change to our incomes. The most significant change to our welfare incomes. The most significant change to our welfare system incomes. The most significant change to our welfare system in incomes. The most significant change to our welfare system in over incomes. The most significant change to our welfare system in over 10 to our welfare system in over 10 years. to our welfare system in over 10 years. The to our welfare system in over 10 years. The Families to our welfare system in over 10 years. The Families Package, to our welfare system in over 10 years. The Families Package, on years. The Families Package, on average, years. The Families Package, on average, $75 years. The Families Package, on average, $75 a years. The Families Package, on average, $75 a week years. The Families Package, on average, $75 a week going years. The Families Package, on average, $75 a week going to years. The Families Package, on average, $75 a week going to over average, $75 a week going to over 380,000 average, $75 a week going to over 380,000 families. average, $75 a week going to over 380,000 families. It average, $75 a week going to over 380,000 families. It will average, $75 a week going to over 380,000 families. It will mean average, $75 a week going to over 380,000 families. It will mean that 380,000 families. It will mean that between 380,000 families. It will mean that between 40,000 380,000 families. It will mean that between 40,000 and 380,000 families. It will mean that between 40,000 and 70,000 380,000 families. It will mean that between 40,000 and 70,000 children between 40,000 and 70,000 children will between 40,000 and 70,000 children will be between 40,000 and 70,000 children will be lifted between 40,000 and 70,000 children will be lifted out between 40,000 and 70,000 children will be lifted out of between 40,000 and 70,000 children will be lifted out of poverty. between 40,000 and 70,000 children will be lifted out of poverty. It between 40,000 and 70,000 children will be lifted out of poverty. It is will be lifted out of poverty. It is a will be lifted out of poverty. It is a $5.4 will be lifted out of poverty. It is a $5.4 billion will be lifted out of poverty. It is a $5.4 billion package will be lifted out of poverty. It is a $5.4 billion package that will be lifted out of poverty. It is a $5.4 billion package that was a $5.4 billion package that was introduced a $5.4 billion package that was introduced by a $5.4 billion package that was introduced by this a $5.4 billion package that was introduced by this Government a $5.4 billion package that was introduced by this Government and introduced by this Government and continues introduced by this Government and continues to introduced by this Government and continues to be introduced by this Government and continues to be rolled introduced by this Government and continues to be rolled out. introduced by this Government and continues to be rolled out. Mr continues to be rolled out. Mr Speaker, continues to be rolled out. Mr Speaker, is continues to be rolled out. Mr Speaker, is there continues to be rolled out. Mr Speaker, is there more continues to be rolled out. Mr Speaker, is there more work continues to be rolled out. Mr Speaker, is there more work to continues to be rolled out. 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It is entirely wrong and unfair for you, as a wrong and unfair for you, as a Speaker, wrong and unfair for you, as a Speaker, to wrong and unfair for you, as a Speaker, to say wrong and unfair for you, as a Speaker, to say that wrong and unfair for you, as a Speaker, to say that sort wrong and unfair for you, as a Speaker, to say that sort of Speaker, to say that sort of unprofessional Speaker, to say that sort of unprofessional comment. unprofessional comment. The unprofessional comment. The member unprofessional comment. The member will unprofessional comment. The member will leave unprofessional comment. The member will leave the unprofessional comment. The member will leave the House. The member will leave the House. Question The member will leave the House. Question No. The member will leave the House. Question No. 2. The member will leave the House. Question No. 2. Jami-Lee The member will leave the House. Question No. 2. Jami-Lee Ross. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Health: of Health: Does of Health: Does he of Health: Does he agree Does he agree with Does he agree with the Does he agree with the calls Does he agree with the calls made with the calls made at with the calls made at the with the calls made at the teen at the teen suicide at the teen suicide awareness at the teen suicide awareness march suicide awareness march at suicide awareness march at Parliament suicide awareness march at Parliament yesterday suicide awareness march at Parliament yesterday for suicide awareness march at Parliament yesterday for more at Parliament yesterday for more counsellors at Parliament yesterday for more counsellors in at Parliament yesterday for more counsellors in schools at Parliament yesterday for more counsellors in schools as at Parliament yesterday for more counsellors in schools as one counsellors in schools as one measure counsellors in schools as one measure to counsellors in schools as one measure to help counsellors in schools as one measure to help reduce counsellors in schools as one measure to help reduce New counsellors in schools as one measure to help reduce New Zealand's measure to help reduce New Zealand's youth measure to help reduce New Zealand's youth suicide measure to help reduce New Zealand's youth suicide rates; youth suicide rates; if youth suicide rates; if so, youth suicide rates; if so, how youth suicide rates; if so, how many youth suicide rates; if so, how many more youth suicide rates; if so, how many more counsellors if so, how many more counsellors will if so, how many more counsellors will be if so, how many more counsellors will be funded will be funded over will be funded over the will be funded over the next will be funded over the next four will be funded over the next four years? The The Hon The Hon Dr The Hon Dr David The Hon Dr David Clark. The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, school The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, school counsellors The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, school counsellors are The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, school counsellors are just The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, school counsellors are just one The Hon Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, school counsellors are just one of The Hon Dr David Clark. 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This Government is committed mental wellbeing. This Government is committed to mental wellbeing. This Government is committed to helping mental wellbeing. This Government is committed to helping our mental wellbeing. This Government is committed to helping our young committed to helping our young people committed to helping our young people in committed to helping our young people in distress. committed to helping our young people in distress. For committed to helping our young people in distress. For example, people in distress. For example, yesterday, people in distress. For example, yesterday, when people in distress. For example, yesterday, when the people in distress. For example, yesterday, when the march people in distress. For example, yesterday, when the march arrived people in distress. 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Zealand's alarming rates of teenage and youth suicide? Mr Zealand's alarming rates of teenage and youth suicide? Mr Speaker, Zealand's alarming rates of teenage and youth suicide? Mr Speaker, my and youth suicide? Mr Speaker, my office and youth suicide? Mr Speaker, my office will and youth suicide? Mr Speaker, my office will consider and youth suicide? Mr Speaker, my office will consider requests and youth suicide? Mr Speaker, my office will consider requests to office will consider requests to meet. meet. What meet. What does meet. What does the meet. What does the Minister meet. What does the Minister say meet. 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We put nurses into schools. We have put the Mana Ake programme DHBs. We put nurses into schools. 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And resource only went up around half of 60%. And resource only went up around half of that. 60%. And resource only went up around half of that. So, 60%. And resource only went up around half of that. So, resource around half of that. So, resource has around half of that. So, resource has been around half of that. So, resource has been lacking around half of that. So, resource has been lacking in around half of that. So, resource has been lacking in this around half of that. So, resource has been lacking in this area, around half of that. So, resource has been lacking in this area, as around half of that. So, resource has been lacking in this area, as it has been lacking in this area, as it has has been lacking in this area, as it has across has been lacking in this area, as it has across the has been lacking in this area, as it has across the health has been lacking in this area, as it has across the health system. has been lacking in this area, as it has across the health system. And has been lacking in this area, as it has across the health system. And we has across the health system. And we as has across the health system. And we as a has across the health system. And we as a Government has across the health system. And we as a Government are has across the health system. And we as a Government are determined has across the health system. And we as a Government are determined to as a Government are determined to address as a Government are determined to address that. as a Government are determined to address that. We as a Government are determined to address that. We will as a Government are determined to address that. We will be as a Government are determined to address that. We will be responding address that. We will be responding soon address that. We will be responding soon to address that. We will be responding soon to the address that. We will be responding soon to the mental address that. We will be responding soon to the mental health address that. We will be responding soon to the mental health inquiry. soon to the mental health inquiry. It soon to the mental health inquiry. It is soon to the mental health inquiry. It is a soon to the mental health inquiry. It is a worthy soon to the mental health inquiry. It is a worthy inquiry soon to the mental health inquiry. It is a worthy inquiry and soon to the mental health inquiry. It is a worthy inquiry and we soon to the mental health inquiry. It is a worthy inquiry and we will It is a worthy inquiry and we will give It is a worthy inquiry and we will give it It is a worthy inquiry and we will give it a It is a worthy inquiry and we will give it a worthy It is a worthy inquiry and we will give it a worthy response. give it a worthy response. Question give it a worthy response. Question No. give it a worthy response. Question No. 3. give it a worthy response. Question No. 3. Jan give it a worthy response. Question No. 3. Jan Tinetti. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Education: of Education: What of Education: What announcements of Education: What announcements has What announcements has the What announcements has the Government What announcements has the Government made the Government made to the Government made to get the Government made to get more the Government made to get more teachers the Government made to get more teachers in the Government made to get more teachers in classrooms to get more teachers in classrooms and to get more teachers in classrooms and support to get more teachers in classrooms and support thousands to get more teachers in classrooms and support thousands more to get more teachers in classrooms and support thousands more in and support thousands more in training? The The Hon The Hon Chris The Hon Chris Hipkins. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, last The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, last week, The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, last week, I The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, last week, I announced The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, last week, I announced a The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, last week, I announced a $95 The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, last week, I announced a $95 million last week, I announced a $95 million investment last week, I announced a $95 million investment in last week, I announced a $95 million investment in teacher last week, I announced a $95 million investment in teacher training last week, I announced a $95 million investment in teacher training and investment in teacher training and recruitment, investment in teacher training and recruitment, the investment in teacher training and recruitment, the largest investment in teacher training and recruitment, the largest in investment in teacher training and recruitment, the largest in a recruitment, the largest in a decade. recruitment, the largest in a decade. This recruitment, the largest in a decade. This will recruitment, the largest in a decade. This will fund recruitment, the largest in a decade. This will fund almost recruitment, the largest in a decade. This will fund almost 2,500 decade. This will fund almost 2,500 more decade. This will fund almost 2,500 more teachers decade. This will fund almost 2,500 more teachers through decade. This will fund almost 2,500 more teachers through more more teachers through more scholarships, more teachers through more scholarships, more more teachers through more scholarships, more on-the-job scholarships, more on-the-job training, scholarships, more on-the-job training, and scholarships, more on-the-job training, and new scholarships, more on-the-job training, and new iwi-based. training, and new iwi-based. And training, and new iwi-based. And the training, and new iwi-based. And the voluntary training, and new iwi-based. And the voluntary bonding training, and new iwi-based. And the voluntary bonding scheme And the voluntary bonding scheme expansion. expansion. How expansion. How does expansion. How does this expansion. How does this additional expansion. How does this additional new expansion. How does this additional new funding How does this additional new funding compare How does this additional new funding compare to How does this additional new funding compare to previous How does this additional new funding compare to previous investments How does this additional new funding compare to previous investments made compare to previous investments made to compare to previous investments made to address compare to previous investments made to address teacher compare to previous investments made to address teacher supply? compare to previous investments made to address teacher supply? Mr to address teacher supply? Mr Speaker, to address teacher supply? Mr Speaker, the to address teacher supply? Mr Speaker, the $95 to address teacher supply? Mr Speaker, the $95 million to address teacher supply? Mr Speaker, the $95 million I to address teacher supply? Mr Speaker, the $95 million I announced Speaker, the $95 million I announced last Speaker, the $95 million I announced last week Speaker, the $95 million I announced last week builds Speaker, the $95 million I announced last week builds on Speaker, the $95 million I announced last week builds on the Speaker, the $95 million I announced last week builds on the $40 Speaker, the $95 million I announced last week builds on the $40 million last week builds on the $40 million investment last week builds on the $40 million investment the last week builds on the $40 million investment the new last week builds on the $40 million investment the new Government last week builds on the $40 million investment the new Government made investment the new Government made shortly investment the new Government made shortly after investment the new Government made shortly after taking investment the new Government made shortly after taking office. investment the new Government made shortly after taking office. And shortly after taking office. And that's shortly after taking office. And that's about shortly after taking office. And that's about 12 shortly after taking office. And that's about 12 times shortly after taking office. And that's about 12 times the shortly after taking office. And that's about 12 times the mere shortly after taking office. And that's about 12 times the mere $11 that's about 12 times the mere $11 million that's about 12 times the mere $11 million of that's about 12 times the mere $11 million of new that's about 12 times the mere $11 million of new money that's about 12 times the mere $11 million of new money invested that's about 12 times the mere $11 million of new money invested in that's about 12 times the mere $11 million of new money invested in the million of new money invested in the nine million of new money invested in the nine years million of new money invested in the nine years before million of new money invested in the nine years before that. nine years before that. How nine years before that. How does nine years before that. How does the nine years before that. How does the $95 nine years before that. How does the $95 million nine years before that. How does the $95 million for nine years before that. How does the $95 million for teacher How does the $95 million for teacher supply How does the $95 million for teacher supply build How does the $95 million for teacher supply build upon How does the $95 million for teacher supply build upon previous supply build upon previous announcements supply build upon previous announcements over supply build upon previous announcements over the supply build upon previous announcements over the past supply build upon previous announcements over the past 18 announcements over the past 18 months announcements over the past 18 months made announcements over the past 18 months made by announcements over the past 18 months made by this announcements over the past 18 months made by this Government announcements over the past 18 months made by this Government to months made by this Government to support months made by this Government to support our months made by this Government to support our teachers? support our teachers? Mr support our teachers? Mr Speaker, support our teachers? Mr Speaker, the support our teachers? Mr Speaker, the Government support our teachers? Mr Speaker, the Government has Mr Speaker, the Government has committed, Mr Speaker, the Government has committed, among Mr Speaker, the Government has committed, among other Mr Speaker, the Government has committed, among other things, Mr Speaker, the Government has committed, among other things, $500 committed, among other things, $500 million committed, among other things, $500 million to committed, among other things, $500 million to support committed, among other things, $500 million to support children committed, among other things, $500 million to support children with million to support children with additional million to support children with additional learning million to support children with additional learning needs million to support children with additional learning needs - million to support children with additional learning needs - a additional learning needs - a significant additional learning needs - a significant portion additional learning needs - a significant portion of additional learning needs - a significant portion of that additional learning needs - a significant portion of that money significant portion of that money will significant portion of that money will fund significant portion of that money will fund 600 significant portion of that money will fund 600 more significant portion of that money will fund 600 more teachers significant portion of that money will fund 600 more teachers to significant portion of that money will fund 600 more teachers to fill will fund 600 more teachers to fill the will fund 600 more teachers to fill the role will fund 600 more teachers to fill the role of will fund 600 more teachers to fill the role of learning will fund 600 more teachers to fill the role of learning support the role of learning support coordinators the role of learning support coordinators in the role of learning support coordinators in our the role of learning support coordinators in our schools. the role of learning support coordinators in our schools. 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The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, on The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, on Friday, The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, on Friday, alongside The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, on Friday, alongside the The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, on Friday, alongside the release The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. 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Firstly this Government is committed to. Firstly was this Government is committed to. Firstly was the this Government is committed to. Firstly was the repeal this Government is committed to. Firstly was the repeal of this Government is committed to. Firstly was the repeal of section Firstly was the repeal of section 192, Firstly was the repeal of section 192, formerly Firstly was the repeal of section 192, formerly section Firstly was the repeal of section 192, formerly section 70(a), Firstly was the repeal of section 192, formerly section 70(a), which 192, formerly section 70(a), which penalises 192, formerly section 70(a), which penalises parents 192, formerly section 70(a), which penalises parents and 192, formerly section 70(a), which penalises parents and children 192, formerly section 70(a), which penalises parents and children by penalises parents and children by reducing penalises parents and children by reducing a penalises parents and children by reducing a client's penalises parents and children by reducing a client's benefit penalises parents and children by reducing a client's benefit if penalises parents and children by reducing a client's benefit if they reducing a client's benefit if they do reducing a client's benefit if they do not reducing a client's benefit if they do not name reducing a client's benefit if they do not name the reducing a client's benefit if they do not name the other reducing a client's benefit if they do not name the other parent reducing a client's benefit if they do not name the other parent of do not name the other parent of their do not name the other parent of their child do not name the other parent of their child and do not name the other parent of their child and apply do not name the other parent of their child and apply for do not name the other parent of their child and apply for child their child and apply for child their child and apply for child their child and apply for child support. Secondly their child and apply for child support. Secondly was their child and apply for child support. Secondly was an their child and apply for child support. Secondly was an increase their child and apply for child support. Secondly was an increase in support. Secondly was an increase in the support. Secondly was an increase in the abatement support. Secondly was an increase in the abatement threshold support. Secondly was an increase in the abatement threshold for support. Secondly was an increase in the abatement threshold for main the abatement threshold for main benefits the abatement threshold for main benefits over the abatement threshold for main benefits over the the abatement threshold for main benefits over the next the abatement threshold for main benefits over the next four the abatement threshold for main benefits over the next four years the abatement threshold for main benefits over the next four years to benefits over the next four years to reflect benefits over the next four years to reflect this benefits over the next four years to reflect this Government's benefits over the next four years to reflect this Government's commitment reflect this Government's commitment to reflect this Government's commitment to increasing reflect this Government's commitment to increasing the reflect this Government's commitment to increasing the minimum reflect this Government's commitment to increasing the minimum wage. reflect this Government's commitment to increasing the minimum wage. And, to increasing the minimum wage. And, finally, to increasing the minimum wage. And, finally, we to increasing the minimum wage. And, finally, we announced to increasing the minimum wage. And, finally, we announced 263 to increasing the minimum wage. And, finally, we announced 263 extra finally, we announced 263 extra front-line finally, we announced 263 extra front-line staff finally, we announced 263 extra front-line staff at finally, we announced 263 extra front-line staff at MSD finally, we announced 263 extra front-line staff at MSD over finally, we announced 263 extra front-line staff at MSD over four front-line staff at MSD over four years front-line staff at MSD over four years to front-line staff at MSD over four years to better front-line staff at MSD over four years to better support front-line staff at MSD over four years to better support people front-line staff at MSD over four years to better support people into years to better support people into meaningful years to better support people into meaningful and years to better support people into meaningful and sustainable meaningful and sustainable employment. employment. Supplementary. employment. Supplementary. What employment. Supplementary. What impact employment. 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Mr Speaker, these announcements show Speaker, these announcements show that Speaker, these announcements show that this Speaker, these announcements show that this Government Speaker, these announcements show that this Government is Speaker, these announcements show that this Government is taking that this Government is taking immediate that this Government is taking immediate action that this Government is taking immediate action to that this Government is taking immediate action to support that this Government is taking immediate action to support people immediate action to support people into immediate action to support people into work immediate action to support people into work and immediate action to support people into work and improve immediate action to support people into work and improve income into work and improve income security into work and improve income security for into work and improve income security for New into work and improve income security for New Zealanders. into work and improve income security for New Zealanders. By security for New Zealanders. By repealing security for New Zealanders. By repealing section security for New Zealanders. By repealing section 192, security for New Zealanders. By repealing section 192, around security for New Zealanders. 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And minimum wage will receive the benefits of these increases. And our benefits of these increases. And our extra benefits of these increases. And our extra front-line benefits of these increases. And our extra front-line staff benefits of these increases. And our extra front-line staff will benefits of these increases. And our extra front-line staff will mean extra front-line staff will mean there extra front-line staff will mean there is extra front-line staff will mean there is a extra front-line staff will mean there is a more extra front-line staff will mean there is a more proactive extra front-line staff will mean there is a more proactive employment there is a more proactive employment service there is a more proactive employment service available there is a more proactive employment service available to there is a more proactive employment service available to support there is a more proactive employment service available to support people service available to support people into service available to support people into the service available to support people into the right service available to support people into the right work service available to support people into the right work for service available to support people into the right work for them. service available to support people into the right work for them. 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However, Mr Speaker, we know there is much more to do, which know there is much more to do, which is know there is much more to do, which is why know there is much more to do, which is why we know there is much more to do, which is why we will know there is much more to do, which is why we will be know there is much more to do, which is why we will be taking know there is much more to do, which is why we will be taking action know there is much more to do, which is why we will be taking action in is why we will be taking action in our is why we will be taking action in our three is why we will be taking action in our three priority is why we will be taking action in our three priority areas. is why we will be taking action in our three priority areas. Income our three priority areas. Income support, our three priority areas. Income support, supporting our three priority areas. Income support, supporting everyone our three priority areas. Income support, supporting everyone who our three priority areas. Income support, supporting everyone who is support, supporting everyone who is able support, supporting everyone who is able to support, supporting everyone who is able to be support, supporting everyone who is able to be earning, support, supporting everyone who is able to be earning, learning, support, supporting everyone who is able to be earning, learning, caring able to be earning, learning, caring or able to be earning, learning, caring or volunteering, able to be earning, learning, caring or volunteering, and able to be earning, learning, caring or volunteering, and improving or volunteering, and improving access or volunteering, and improving access to or volunteering, and improving access to affordable or volunteering, and improving access to affordable housing. or volunteering, and improving access to affordable housing. At or volunteering, and improving access to affordable housing. 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Question actually better off. Question No. actually better off. Question No. 7, actually better off. Question No. 7, the actually better off. Question No. 7, the Hon actually better off. Question No. 7, the Hon Judith Question No. 7, the Hon Judith Collins. 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Mr Speaker, obviously, waiting for that advice? Mr Speaker, obviously, this waiting for that advice? Mr Speaker, obviously, this is waiting for that advice? 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It directed at PHARMAC over these matters. It is directed at PHARMAC over these matters. It is why directed at PHARMAC over these matters. It is why I've directed at PHARMAC over these matters. It is why I've instructed matters. It is why I've instructed PHARMAC matters. It is why I've instructed PHARMAC to matters. It is why I've instructed PHARMAC to look matters. It is why I've instructed PHARMAC to look at matters. It is why I've instructed PHARMAC to look at openness matters. It is why I've instructed PHARMAC to look at openness and PHARMAC to look at openness and transparency PHARMAC to look at openness and transparency of PHARMAC to look at openness and transparency of the PHARMAC to look at openness and transparency of the decision-making transparency of the decision-making process, transparency of the decision-making process, and transparency of the decision-making process, and it's transparency of the decision-making process, and it's also transparency of the decision-making process, and it's also why transparency of the decision-making process, and it's also why we transparency of the decision-making process, and it's also why we are process, and it's also why we are looking process, and it's also why we are looking at process, and it's also why we are looking at early process, and it's also why we are looking at early options process, and it's also why we are looking at early options for process, and it's also why we are looking at early options for early looking at early options for early access. looking at early options for early access. Does looking at early options for early access. Does he looking at early options for early access. Does he agree looking at early options for early access. Does he agree with looking at early options for early access. Does he agree with the access. Does he agree with the PHARMAC access. Does he agree with the PHARMAC CEO access. Does he agree with the PHARMAC CEO that access. Does he agree with the PHARMAC CEO that taking access. Does he agree with the PHARMAC CEO that taking more access. Does he agree with the PHARMAC CEO that taking more money PHARMAC CEO that taking more money from PHARMAC CEO that taking more money from DHBs PHARMAC CEO that taking more money from DHBs means PHARMAC CEO that taking more money from DHBs means less PHARMAC CEO that taking more money from DHBs means less money PHARMAC CEO that taking more money from DHBs means less money for from DHBs means less money for hospital from DHBs means less money for hospital services? from DHBs means less money for hospital services? Will from DHBs means less money for hospital services? Will he from DHBs means less money for hospital services? Will he commit hospital services? Will he commit that hospital services? Will he commit that any hospital services? Will he commit that any funding hospital services? Will he commit that any funding out hospital services? Will he commit that any funding out of hospital services? Will he commit that any funding out of a hospital services? Will he commit that any funding out of a won't hospital services? Will he commit that any funding out of a won't be that any funding out of a won't be funding that any funding out of a won't be funding out that any funding out of a won't be funding out of that any funding out of a won't be funding out of existing that any funding out of a won't be funding out of existing budgets? that any funding out of a won't be funding out of existing budgets? Mr funding out of existing budgets? Mr Speaker, funding out of existing budgets? Mr Speaker, I funding out of existing budgets? Mr Speaker, I would funding out of existing budgets? Mr Speaker, I would expect funding out of existing budgets? Mr Speaker, I would expect that funding out of existing budgets? 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Well, isn't it true that early access to at least some that early access to at least some of that early access to at least some of the that early access to at least some of the medicines that early access to at least some of the medicines that that early access to at least some of the medicines that are that early access to at least some of the medicines that are subject that early access to at least some of the medicines that are subject of of the medicines that are subject of those of the medicines that are subject of those petitions of the medicines that are subject of those petitions could of the medicines that are subject of those petitions could have of the medicines that are subject of those petitions could have been those petitions could have been funded those petitions could have been funded by those petitions could have been funded by the those petitions could have been funded by the $200 those petitions could have been funded by the $200 million those petitions could have been funded by the $200 million of funded by the $200 million of PHARMAC funded by the $200 million of PHARMAC savings funded by the $200 million of PHARMAC savings achieved funded by the $200 million of PHARMAC savings achieved in funded by the $200 million of PHARMAC savings achieved in Budget PHARMAC savings achieved in Budget 2018, PHARMAC savings achieved in Budget 2018, had PHARMAC savings achieved in Budget 2018, had that PHARMAC savings achieved in Budget 2018, had that money PHARMAC savings achieved in Budget 2018, had that money not PHARMAC savings achieved in Budget 2018, had that money not been 2018, had that money not been reprioritised 2018, had that money not been reprioritised to 2018, had that money not been reprioritised to other 2018, had that money not been reprioritised to other parts 2018, had that money not been reprioritised to other parts of 2018, had that money not been reprioritised to other parts of the reprioritised to other parts of the Health reprioritised to other parts of the Health Sector? reprioritised to other parts of the Health Sector? 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And I'm not about to make the clinical I'm not about to make the clinical decisions I'm not about to make the clinical decisions that I'm not about to make the clinical decisions that PHARMAC I'm not about to make the clinical decisions that PHARMAC makes. I'm not about to make the clinical decisions that PHARMAC makes. They decisions that PHARMAC makes. They are decisions that PHARMAC makes. They are difficult decisions that PHARMAC makes. They are difficult decisions decisions that PHARMAC makes. They are difficult decisions to decisions that PHARMAC makes. They are difficult decisions to make. are difficult decisions to make. Prioritising are difficult decisions to make. Prioritising drugs. are difficult decisions to make. Prioritising drugs. And are difficult decisions to make. Prioritising drugs. And they are difficult decisions to make. Prioritising drugs. And they do are difficult decisions to make. Prioritising drugs. And they do it Prioritising drugs. And they do it based Prioritising drugs. And they do it based on Prioritising drugs. And they do it based on evidence. based on evidence. Question based on evidence. Question No. based on evidence. Question No. 9. based on evidence. Question No. 9. Tamati based on evidence. Question No. 9. Tamati Coffey. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Associate My question is to the Associate Minister My question is to the Associate Minister of My question is to the Associate Minister of Finance: Minister of Finance: What Minister of Finance: What effect, Minister of Finance: What effect, if Minister of Finance: What effect, if any, What effect, if any, has What effect, if any, has the What effect, if any, has the ban What effect, if any, has the ban on What effect, if any, has the ban on foreign What effect, if any, has the ban on foreign buyers has the ban on foreign buyers of has the ban on foreign buyers of existing has the ban on foreign buyers of existing homes has the ban on foreign buyers of existing homes had has the ban on foreign buyers of existing homes had on has the ban on foreign buyers of existing homes had on the has the ban on foreign buyers of existing homes had on the number of existing homes had on the number of of existing homes had on the number of foreign of existing homes had on the number of foreign buyers of existing homes had on the number of foreign buyers of of existing homes had on the number of foreign buyers of existing of existing homes had on the number of foreign buyers of existing New of foreign buyers of existing New Zealand of foreign buyers of existing New Zealand homes? The The Hon The Hon David The Hon David Parker. The Hon David Parker. Thank The Hon David Parker. Thank you, The Hon David Parker. Thank you, Mr The Hon David Parker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The Hon David Parker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The The Hon David Parker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The ban The Hon David Parker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The ban on The Hon David Parker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The ban on foreign The Hon David Parker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The ban on foreign buyers Speaker. The ban on foreign buyers of Speaker. The ban on foreign buyers of existing Speaker. The ban on foreign buyers of existing New Speaker. The ban on foreign buyers of existing New Zealand Speaker. The ban on foreign buyers of existing New Zealand homes Speaker. The ban on foreign buyers of existing New Zealand homes - Speaker. 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In the March quarter of this year, In the March quarter of this year, there In the March quarter of this year, there were In the March quarter of this year, there were only In the March quarter of this year, there were only 204. In the March quarter of this year, there were only 204. That's In the March quarter of this year, there were only 204. That's a there were only 204. That's a decrease there were only 204. That's a decrease of there were only 204. That's a decrease of 81%. there were only 204. That's a decrease of 81%. Even there were only 204. That's a decrease of 81%. Even though there were only 204. That's a decrease of 81%. Even though these decrease of 81%. Even though these statistics decrease of 81%. Even though these statistics only decrease of 81%. Even though these statistics only paint decrease of 81%. Even though these statistics only paint a decrease of 81%. 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Those announcements align with three more accessible. Those announcements align with three of more accessible. Those announcements align with three of the align with three of the recommendations align with three of the recommendations in align with three of the recommendations in the align with three of the recommendations in the report. align with three of the recommendations in the report. Work recommendations in the report. Work was recommendations in the report. Work was already recommendations in the report. Work was already under recommendations in the report. Work was already under way recommendations in the report. Work was already under way to recommendations in the report. 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After receiving it, I immediately commissioned further immediately commissioned further advice immediately commissioned further advice on immediately commissioned further advice on another immediately commissioned further advice on another five. immediately commissioned further advice on another five. However, immediately commissioned further advice on another five. However, we advice on another five. However, we know advice on another five. However, we know there advice on another five. However, we know there is advice on another five. However, we know there is much advice on another five. However, we know there is much more advice on another five. However, we know there is much more to advice on another five. However, we know there is much more to do, advice on another five. However, we know there is much more to do, and know there is much more to do, and much know there is much more to do, and much of know there is much more to do, and much of what know there is much more to do, and much of what needs know there is much more to do, and much of what needs to know there is much more to do, and much of what needs to be know there is much more to do, and much of what needs to be done know there is much more to do, and much of what needs to be done will much of what needs to be done will be much of what needs to be done will be rolled much of what needs to be done will be rolled out much of what needs to be done will be rolled out in much of what needs to be done will be rolled out in a much of what needs to be done will be rolled out in a phase much of what needs to be done will be rolled out in a phase two much of what needs to be done will be rolled out in a phase two plan be rolled out in a phase two plan that be rolled out in a phase two plan that is be rolled out in a phase two plan that is yet be rolled out in a phase two plan that is yet to be rolled out in a phase two plan that is yet to be be rolled out in a phase two plan that is yet to be developed. be rolled out in a phase two plan that is yet to be developed. We be rolled out in a phase two plan that is yet to be developed. We want that is yet to be developed. We want to that is yet to be developed. We want to make that is yet to be developed. We want to make sure that is yet to be developed. We want to make sure the that is yet to be developed. We want to make sure the changes that is yet to be developed. We want to make sure the changes we that is yet to be developed. We want to make sure the changes we make that is yet to be developed. We want to make sure the changes we make to to make sure the changes we make to the to make sure the changes we make to the welfare to make sure the changes we make to the welfare system to make sure the changes we make to the welfare system are to make sure the changes we make to the welfare system are effective to make sure the changes we make to the welfare system are effective and the welfare system are effective and enduring, the welfare system are effective and enduring, as the welfare system are effective and enduring, as is the welfare system are effective and enduring, as is noted the welfare system are effective and enduring, as is noted by the welfare system are effective and enduring, as is noted by the the welfare system are effective and enduring, as is noted by the WIAG enduring, as is noted by the WIAG and enduring, as is noted by the WIAG and their enduring, as is noted by the WIAG and their report. enduring, as is noted by the WIAG and their report. More enduring, as is noted by the WIAG and their report. More work enduring, as is noted by the WIAG and their report. More work is and their report. More work is needed and their report. More work is needed to and their report. More work is needed to be and their report. More work is needed to be done and their report. More work is needed to be done on and their report. More work is needed to be done on the needed to be done on the interactions needed to be done on the interactions with needed to be done on the interactions with other needed to be done on the interactions with other government interactions with other government systems interactions with other government systems in interactions with other government systems in wider interactions with other government systems in wider areas, interactions with other government systems in wider areas, and interactions with other government systems in wider areas, and this interactions with other government systems in wider areas, and this is systems in wider areas, and this is important systems in wider areas, and this is important work systems in wider areas, and this is important work that systems in wider areas, and this is important work that we systems in wider areas, and this is important work that we will systems in wider areas, and this is important work that we will be systems in wider areas, and this is important work that we will be doing important work that we will be doing before important work that we will be doing before we important work that we will be doing before we commit important work that we will be doing before we commit to important work that we will be doing before we commit to a important work that we will be doing before we commit to a long-term before we commit to a long-term welfare before we commit to a long-term welfare overhaul before we commit to a long-term welfare overhaul work before we commit to a long-term welfare overhaul work programme. welfare overhaul work programme. Supplementary. Supplementary. Will Supplementary. Will the Supplementary. Will the Government Supplementary. Will the Government remove Supplementary. Will the Government remove the Will the Government remove the obligation Will the Government remove the obligation to Will the Government remove the obligation to be Will the Government remove the obligation to be drug-free Will the Government remove the obligation to be drug-free and Will the Government remove the obligation to be drug-free and have obligation to be drug-free and have children obligation to be drug-free and have children registered obligation to be drug-free and have children registered with obligation to be drug-free and have children registered with education children registered with education providers children registered with education providers as children registered with education providers as listed children registered with education providers as listed in providers as listed in recommendation providers as listed in recommendation 11 providers as listed in recommendation 11 of providers as listed in recommendation 11 of the providers as listed in recommendation 11 of the report? providers as listed in recommendation 11 of the report? Mr recommendation 11 of the report? Mr Speaker. recommendation 11 of the report? Mr Speaker. This recommendation 11 of the report? Mr Speaker. This Government recommendation 11 of the report? Mr Speaker. This Government committed Speaker. This Government committed to Speaker. This Government committed to removing Speaker. This Government committed to removing excessive Speaker. This Government committed to removing excessive sanctions. Speaker. This Government committed to removing excessive sanctions. We to removing excessive sanctions. We take to removing excessive sanctions. We take the to removing excessive sanctions. We take the advice to removing excessive sanctions. We take the advice that, to removing excessive sanctions. We take the advice that, -- to removing excessive sanctions. We take the advice that, -- that to removing excessive sanctions. We take the advice that, -- that is to removing excessive sanctions. We take the advice that, -- that is in take the advice that, -- that is in the take the advice that, -- that is in the report. take the advice that, -- that is in the report. And take the advice that, -- that is in the report. And we'll take the advice that, -- that is in the report. And we'll be take the advice that, -- that is in the report. And we'll be considering the report. And we'll be considering all the report. And we'll be considering all the the report. And we'll be considering all the recommendations the report. And we'll be considering all the recommendations that the report. And we'll be considering all the recommendations that embody all the recommendations that embody that all the recommendations that embody that advice. all the recommendations that embody that advice. But, all the recommendations that embody that advice. But, Mr all the recommendations that embody that advice. But, Mr Speaker, all the recommendations that embody that advice. 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What advice programme. Supplementary. What advice has programme. Supplementary. What advice has she programme. Supplementary. What advice has she received programme. Supplementary. What advice has she received on programme. Supplementary. What advice has she received on the advice has she received on the additional advice has she received on the additional number advice has she received on the additional number of advice has she received on the additional number of mothers advice has she received on the additional number of mothers who additional number of mothers who won't additional number of mothers who won't name additional number of mothers who won't name the additional number of mothers who won't name the father additional number of mothers who won't name the father when additional number of mothers who won't name the father when the won't name the father when the Government won't name the father when the Government removes won't name the father when the Government removes the won't name the father when the Government removes the obligation won't name the father when the Government removes the obligation to Government removes the obligation to name Government removes the obligation to name both Government removes the obligation to name both parents? Government removes the obligation to name both parents? Mr Government removes the obligation to name both parents? Mr Speaker, Government removes the obligation to name both parents? Mr Speaker, with name both parents? Mr Speaker, with regards name both parents? Mr Speaker, with regards to name both parents? Mr Speaker, with regards to repealing name both parents? Mr Speaker, with regards to repealing section name both parents? Mr Speaker, with regards to repealing section 192, regards to repealing section 192, that regards to repealing section 192, that was regards to repealing section 192, that was formerly regards to repealing section 192, that was formerly section regards to repealing section 192, that was formerly section 70(a), regards to repealing section 192, that was formerly section 70(a), the that was formerly section 70(a), the advice that was formerly section 70(a), the advice that that was formerly section 70(a), the advice that this that was formerly section 70(a), the advice that this side that was formerly section 70(a), the advice that this side of that was formerly section 70(a), the advice that this side of the that was formerly section 70(a), the advice that this side of the House advice that this side of the House received advice that this side of the House received was advice that this side of the House received was that advice that this side of the House received was that there advice that this side of the House received was that there was advice that this side of the House received was that there was no received was that there was no evidence received was that there was no evidence to received was that there was no evidence to support received was that there was no evidence to support that received was that there was no evidence to support that that evidence to support that that sanction evidence to support that that sanction actually evidence to support that that sanction actually did evidence to support that that sanction actually did anything evidence to support that that sanction actually did anything to sanction actually did anything to get sanction actually did anything to get child sanction actually did anything to get child support sanction actually did anything to get child support out sanction actually did anything to get child support out of sanction actually did anything to get child support out of the sanction actually did anything to get child support out of the absent get child support out of the absent parent. get child support out of the absent parent. Instead, get child support out of the absent parent. Instead, Mr get child support out of the absent parent. Instead, Mr Speaker, get child support out of the absent parent. Instead, Mr Speaker, the parent. Instead, Mr Speaker, the evidence parent. Instead, Mr Speaker, the evidence that parent. Instead, Mr Speaker, the evidence that we parent. Instead, Mr Speaker, the evidence that we were parent. Instead, Mr Speaker, the evidence that we were presented evidence that we were presented with, evidence that we were presented with, which evidence that we were presented with, which is evidence that we were presented with, which is the evidence that we were presented with, which is the same evidence that we were presented with, which is the same evidence with, which is the same evidence that with, which is the same evidence that the with, which is the same evidence that the previous with, which is the same evidence that the previous Government with, which is the same evidence that the previous Government were that the previous Government were presented that the previous Government were presented with that the previous Government were presented with in that the previous Government were presented with in 2016, that the previous Government were presented with in 2016, was that the previous Government were presented with in 2016, was that that the previous Government were presented with in 2016, was that the presented with in 2016, was that the sanction presented with in 2016, was that the sanction was, presented with in 2016, was that the sanction was, in presented with in 2016, was that the sanction was, in fact, presented with in 2016, was that the sanction was, in fact, throwing presented with in 2016, was that the sanction was, in fact, throwing the sanction was, in fact, throwing the sole sanction was, in fact, throwing the sole mothers sanction was, in fact, throwing the sole mothers into sanction was, in fact, throwing the sole mothers into further sanction was, in fact, throwing the sole mothers into further hardship sole mothers into further hardship and sole mothers into further hardship and causing sole mothers into further hardship and causing further sole mothers into further hardship and causing further poverty sole mothers into further hardship and causing further poverty for sole mothers into further hardship and causing further poverty for the and causing further poverty for the 24,000 and causing further poverty for the 24,000 children and causing further poverty for the 24,000 children that and causing further poverty for the 24,000 children that live and causing further poverty for the 24,000 children that live in and causing further poverty for the 24,000 children that live in those 24,000 children that live in those households. 24,000 children that live in those households. So, 24,000 children that live in those households. So, we 24,000 children that live in those households. So, we make 24,000 children that live in those households. So, we make no 24,000 children that live in those households. So, we make no apologies households. So, we make no apologies for households. So, we make no apologies for the households. So, we make no apologies for the announcement households. So, we make no apologies for the announcement that households. So, we make no apologies for the announcement that we households. So, we make no apologies for the announcement that we will households. So, we make no apologies for the announcement that we will be for the announcement that we will be repealing for the announcement that we will be repealing that for the announcement that we will be repealing that sanction. repealing that sanction. Supplementary. Supplementary. What Supplementary. What advice Supplementary. What advice has Supplementary. What advice has she Supplementary. What advice has she received Supplementary. What advice has she received on Supplementary. What advice has she received on the What advice has she received on the additional What advice has she received on the additional number What advice has she received on the additional number of What advice has she received on the additional number of fathers What advice has she received on the additional number of fathers who additional number of fathers who will additional number of fathers who will avoid additional number of fathers who will avoid being additional number of fathers who will avoid being financially will avoid being financially responsible will avoid being financially responsible for will avoid being financially responsible for their will avoid being financially responsible for their children? responsible for their children? Mr responsible for their children? Mr Speaker, responsible for their children? Mr Speaker, as responsible for their children? Mr Speaker, as has responsible for their children? Mr Speaker, as has already responsible for their children? Mr Speaker, as has already been Mr Speaker, as has already been noted, Mr Speaker, as has already been noted, there Mr Speaker, as has already been noted, there was Mr Speaker, as has already been noted, there was no Mr Speaker, as has already been noted, there was no evidence Mr Speaker, as has already been noted, there was no evidence to noted, there was no evidence to support noted, there was no evidence to support that noted, there was no evidence to support that that noted, there was no evidence to support that that sanction noted, there was no evidence to support that that sanction was support that that sanction was actually support that that sanction was actually doing support that that sanction was actually doing anything support that that sanction was actually doing anything to support that that sanction was actually doing anything to ensure actually doing anything to ensure that actually doing anything to ensure that the actually doing anything to ensure that the absent actually doing anything to ensure that the absent parent actually doing anything to ensure that the absent parent was actually doing anything to ensure that the absent parent was paying that the absent parent was paying child that the absent parent was paying child support. that the absent parent was paying child support. So, that the absent parent was paying child support. So, Mr that the absent parent was paying child support. So, Mr Speaker, that the absent parent was paying child support. So, Mr Speaker, the child support. So, Mr Speaker, the premise child support. So, Mr Speaker, the premise on child support. So, Mr Speaker, the premise on which child support. So, Mr Speaker, the premise on which that child support. So, Mr Speaker, the premise on which that member child support. So, Mr Speaker, the premise on which that member asks premise on which that member asks the premise on which that member asks the question premise on which that member asks the question is premise on which that member asks the question is incredibly premise on which that member asks the question is incredibly flawed. the question is incredibly flawed. On the question is incredibly flawed. On this the question is incredibly flawed. On this side the question is incredibly flawed. On this side of the question is incredibly flawed. On this side of the the question is incredibly flawed. On this side of the House, the question is incredibly flawed. On this side of the House, our On this side of the House, our concern On this side of the House, our concern is On this side of the House, our concern is for On this side of the House, our concern is for the On this side of the House, our concern is for the 24,000 On this side of the House, our concern is for the 24,000 children concern is for the 24,000 children that concern is for the 24,000 children that are concern is for the 24,000 children that are living concern is for the 24,000 children that are living in concern is for the 24,000 children that are living in those concern is for the 24,000 children that are living in those households, that are living in those households, Mr that are living in those households, Mr Speaker, that are living in those households, Mr Speaker, and that are living in those households, Mr Speaker, and we're that are living in those households, Mr Speaker, and we're proud that are living in those households, Mr Speaker, and we're proud of that are living in those households, Mr Speaker, and we're proud of the Mr Speaker, and we're proud of the fact Mr Speaker, and we're proud of the fact that Mr Speaker, and we're proud of the fact that they Mr Speaker, and we're proud of the fact that they will Mr Speaker, and we're proud of the fact that they will not Mr Speaker, and we're proud of the fact that they will not be Mr Speaker, and we're proud of the fact that they will not be punished fact that they will not be punished because fact that they will not be punished because of fact that they will not be punished because of the fact that they will not be punished because of the fact fact that they will not be punished because of the fact that fact that they will not be punished because of the fact that they fact that they will not be punished because of the fact that they have because of the fact that they have an because of the fact that they have an absent because of the fact that they have an absent parent. because of the fact that they have an absent parent. Supplementary. an absent parent. Supplementary. When an absent parent. Supplementary. When the an absent parent. Supplementary. When the Labour an absent parent. Supplementary. When the Labour Minister an absent parent. Supplementary. When the Labour Minister introduced When the Labour Minister introduced the When the Labour Minister introduced the sanction When the Labour Minister introduced the sanction initially, When the Labour Minister introduced the sanction initially, it When the Labour Minister introduced the sanction initially, it was When the Labour Minister introduced the sanction initially, it was about the sanction initially, it was about ensuring the sanction initially, it was about ensuring fathers the sanction initially, it was about ensuring fathers are the sanction initially, it was about ensuring fathers are held ensuring fathers are held financially ensuring fathers are held financially responsible ensuring fathers are held financially responsible for ensuring fathers are held financially responsible for their financially responsible for their children. financially responsible for their children. What financially responsible for their children. What will financially responsible for their children. What will the financially responsible for their children. What will the Government children. What will the Government do children. What will the Government do to children. What will the Government do to ensure children. What will the Government do to ensure that children. What will the Government do to ensure that fathers children. What will the Government do to ensure that fathers are children. What will the Government do to ensure that fathers are held do to ensure that fathers are held financially do to ensure that fathers are held financially responsible do to ensure that fathers are held financially responsible for do to ensure that fathers are held financially responsible for their financially responsible for their children? financially responsible for their children? Mr financially responsible for their children? Mr Speaker, financially responsible for their children? Mr Speaker, and financially responsible for their children? Mr Speaker, and given financially responsible for their children? Mr Speaker, and given that children? Mr Speaker, and given that the children? Mr Speaker, and given that the evidence children? Mr Speaker, and given that the evidence we children? Mr Speaker, and given that the evidence we have children? Mr Speaker, and given that the evidence we have been children? Mr Speaker, and given that the evidence we have been presented the evidence we have been presented with the evidence we have been presented with shows the evidence we have been presented with shows that the evidence we have been presented with shows that there the evidence we have been presented with shows that there is the evidence we have been presented with shows that there is no the evidence we have been presented with shows that there is no evidence with shows that there is no evidence to with shows that there is no evidence to support with shows that there is no evidence to support that with shows that there is no evidence to support that that with shows that there is no evidence to support that that sanction with shows that there is no evidence to support that that sanction has, to support that that sanction has, in to support that that sanction has, in any to support that that sanction has, in any way, to support that that sanction has, in any way, contributed to support that that sanction has, in any way, contributed to to support that that sanction has, in any way, contributed to holding in any way, contributed to holding the in any way, contributed to holding the absent in any way, contributed to holding the absent parent in any way, contributed to holding the absent parent to in any way, contributed to holding the absent parent to account, in any way, contributed to holding the absent parent to account, then the absent parent to account, then we the absent parent to account, then we make the absent parent to account, then we make no the absent parent to account, then we make no apologies the absent parent to account, then we make no apologies for the absent parent to account, then we make no apologies for repealing we make no apologies for repealing that we make no apologies for repealing that sanction, we make no apologies for repealing that sanction, Mr we make no apologies for repealing that sanction, Mr Speaker. that sanction, Mr Speaker. Question that sanction, Mr Speaker. Question No. that sanction, Mr Speaker. Question No. 11. that sanction, Mr Speaker. Question No. 11. Sorry,. that sanction, Mr Speaker. Question No. 11. Sorry,. Does that sanction, Mr Speaker. Question No. 11. Sorry,. Does she Question No. 11. Sorry,. Does she endorse Question No. 11. Sorry,. Does she endorse the Question No. 11. Sorry,. Does she endorse the vision Question No. 11. Sorry,. Does she endorse the vision that Question No. 11. Sorry,. Does she endorse the vision that the Question No. 11. Sorry,. Does she endorse the vision that the social endorse the vision that the social support endorse the vision that the social support system endorse the vision that the social support system should endorse the vision that the social support system should move endorse the vision that the social support system should move beyond endorse the vision that the social support system should move beyond a support system should move beyond a safety support system should move beyond a safety net support system should move beyond a safety net to support system should move beyond a safety net to enabling support system should move beyond a safety net to enabling restoring safety net to enabling restoring dignity safety net to enabling restoring dignity to safety net to enabling restoring dignity to people safety net to enabling restoring dignity to people so safety net to enabling restoring dignity to people so they safety net to enabling restoring dignity to people so they can dignity to people so they can participant dignity to people so they can participant meaningfully dignity to people so they can participant meaningfully with participant meaningfully with families participant meaningfully with families and participant meaningfully with families and communities? participant meaningfully with families and communities? Mr families and communities? Mr Speaker, families and communities? Mr Speaker, absolutely. families and communities? Mr Speaker, absolutely. And families and communities? Mr Speaker, absolutely. And can families and communities? Mr Speaker, absolutely. And can I families and communities? Mr Speaker, absolutely. And can I just Speaker, absolutely. And can I just say Speaker, absolutely. And can I just say on Speaker, absolutely. And can I just say on this Speaker, absolutely. And can I just say on this side Speaker, absolutely. And can I just say on this side of Speaker, absolutely. And can I just say on this side of the Speaker, absolutely. And can I just say on this side of the House, Speaker, absolutely. And can I just say on this side of the House, we say on this side of the House, we are say on this side of the House, we are very say on this side of the House, we are very interested say on this side of the House, we are very interested in say on this side of the House, we are very interested in the are very interested in the international are very interested in the international evidence are very interested in the international evidence that are very interested in the international evidence that shows international evidence that shows that international evidence that shows that excessive international evidence that shows that excessive sanctions international evidence that shows that excessive sanctions aren't that excessive sanctions aren't necessarily that excessive sanctions aren't necessarily the that excessive sanctions aren't necessarily the way that excessive sanctions aren't necessarily the way to that excessive sanctions aren't necessarily the way to move that excessive sanctions aren't necessarily the way to move people necessarily the way to move people forward. necessarily the way to move people forward. In necessarily the way to move people forward. In fact, necessarily the way to move people forward. In fact, Mr necessarily the way to move people forward. In fact, Mr Speaker, necessarily the way to move people forward. In fact, Mr Speaker, we forward. In fact, Mr Speaker, we have forward. In fact, Mr Speaker, we have been forward. In fact, Mr Speaker, we have been presented forward. In fact, Mr Speaker, we have been presented with forward. In fact, Mr Speaker, we have been presented with evidence, have been presented with evidence, and have been presented with evidence, and seen have been presented with evidence, and seen international have been presented with evidence, and seen international evidence, and seen international evidence, that and seen international evidence, that shows and seen international evidence, that shows things and seen international evidence, that shows things like and seen international evidence, that shows things like excessive that shows things like excessive sanctions that shows things like excessive sanctions can that shows things like excessive sanctions can actually that shows things like excessive sanctions can actually dissuade sanctions can actually dissuade people sanctions can actually dissuade people from sanctions can actually dissuade people from getting sanctions can actually dissuade people from getting into sanctions can actually dissuade people from getting into employment. people from getting into employment. So, people from getting into employment. So, Mr people from getting into employment. So, Mr Speaker, people from getting into employment. So, Mr Speaker, on people from getting into employment. So, Mr Speaker, on this people from getting into employment. So, Mr Speaker, on this side people from getting into employment. So, Mr Speaker, on this side of people from getting into employment. So, Mr Speaker, on this side of the So, Mr Speaker, on this side of the House So, Mr Speaker, on this side of the House we So, Mr Speaker, on this side of the House we want So, Mr Speaker, on this side of the House we want to So, Mr Speaker, on this side of the House we want to make So, Mr Speaker, on this side of the House we want to make sure So, Mr Speaker, on this side of the House we want to make sure that So, Mr Speaker, on this side of the House we want to make sure that all House we want to make sure that all of House we want to make sure that all of the House we want to make sure that all of the over House we want to make sure that all of the over 1 House we want to make sure that all of the over 1 million House we want to make sure that all of the over 1 million people House we want to make sure that all of the over 1 million people that of the over 1 million people that access of the over 1 million people that access the of the over 1 million people that access the support of the over 1 million people that access the support of of the over 1 million people that access the support of MSD of the over 1 million people that access the support of MSD every access the support of MSD every year, access the support of MSD every year, which access the support of MSD every year, which includes access the support of MSD every year, which includes our year, which includes our superannuitants, year, which includes our superannuitants, disabled year, which includes our superannuitants, disabled people, superannuitants, disabled people, unemployed superannuitants, disabled people, unemployed people, superannuitants, disabled people, unemployed people, that superannuitants, disabled people, unemployed people, that all superannuitants, disabled people, unemployed people, that all of superannuitants, disabled people, unemployed people, that all of them unemployed people, that all of them are unemployed people, that all of them are treated unemployed people, that all of them are treated with unemployed people, that all of them are treated with dignity unemployed people, that all of them are treated with dignity and are treated with dignity and respect, are treated with dignity and respect, and are treated with dignity and respect, and that are treated with dignity and respect, and that we are treated with dignity and respect, and that we have are treated with dignity and respect, and that we have the respect, and that we have the resourcing respect, and that we have the resourcing and respect, and that we have the resourcing and the respect, and that we have the resourcing and the mechanisms respect, and that we have the resourcing and the mechanisms in resourcing and the mechanisms in place resourcing and the mechanisms in place to resourcing and the mechanisms in place to support resourcing and the mechanisms in place to support those resourcing and the mechanisms in place to support those that resourcing and the mechanisms in place to support those that are resourcing and the mechanisms in place to support those that are able place to support those that are able to place to support those that are able to get place to support those that are able to get into place to support those that are able to get into employment, place to support those that are able to get into employment, Mr place to support those that are able to get into employment, Mr Speaker. to get into employment, Mr Speaker. But to get into employment, Mr Speaker. But not to get into employment, Mr Speaker. But not just to get into employment, Mr Speaker. But not just any to get into employment, Mr Speaker. But not just any employment. But not just any employment. Employment But not just any employment. Employment that But not just any employment. Employment that is But not just any employment. Employment that is sustainable But not just any employment. Employment that is sustainable and Employment that is sustainable and meaningful Employment that is sustainable and meaningful to Employment that is sustainable and meaningful to them, Employment that is sustainable and meaningful to them, so Employment that is sustainable and meaningful to them, so that Employment that is sustainable and meaningful to them, so that we Employment that is sustainable and meaningful to them, so that we don't meaningful to them, so that we don't experience meaningful to them, so that we don't experience the meaningful to them, so that we don't experience the churn meaningful to them, so that we don't experience the churn on meaningful to them, so that we don't experience the churn on and meaningful to them, so that we don't experience the churn on and off experience the churn on and off benefit experience the churn on and off benefit that experience the churn on and off benefit that that experience the churn on and off benefit that that side experience the churn on and off benefit that that side of experience the churn on and off benefit that that side of the experience the churn on and off benefit that that side of the House benefit that that side of the House had benefit that that side of the House had when benefit that that side of the House had when they benefit that that side of the House had when they were benefit that that side of the House had when they were in benefit that that side of the House had when they were in Government. had when they were in Government. Question had when they were in Government. Question No. had when they were in Government. Question No. 11, had when they were in Government. Question No. 11, Chris had when they were in Government. Question No. 11, Chris Bishop. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Police: My question is to the Minister of Police: Does My question is to the Minister of Police: Does he My question is to the Minister of Police: Does he stand My question is to the Minister of Police: Does he stand by My question is to the Minister of Police: Does he stand by all My question is to the Minister of Police: Does he stand by all his Police: Does he stand by all his statements, Police: Does he stand by all his statements, policies, Police: Does he stand by all his statements, policies, and Police: Does he stand by all his statements, policies, and actions Police: Does he stand by all his statements, policies, and actions in statements, policies, and actions in relation statements, policies, and actions in relation to statements, policies, and actions in relation to the statements, policies, and actions in relation to the New statements, policies, and actions in relation to the New Zealand statements, policies, and actions in relation to the New Zealand Police? The The Rt The Rt Hon The Rt Hon Winston The Rt Hon Winston Peters. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the Minister The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the Minister of The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the Minister of Police, The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the Minister of Police, yes. of the Minister of Police, yes. Can of the Minister of Police, yes. Can he of the Minister of Police, yes. Can he confirm of the Minister of Police, yes. Can he confirm the of the Minister of Police, yes. Can he confirm the total of the Minister of Police, yes. Can he confirm the total new of the Minister of Police, yes. Can he confirm the total new number Can he confirm the total new number of Can he confirm the total new number of front-line Can he confirm the total new number of front-line police Can he confirm the total new number of front-line police added Can he confirm the total new number of front-line police added to Can he confirm the total new number of front-line police added to the of front-line police added to the force of front-line police added to the force since of front-line police added to the force since 1 of front-line police added to the force since 1 November of front-line police added to the force since 1 November 2017, of front-line police added to the force since 1 November 2017, taking force since 1 November 2017, taking into force since 1 November 2017, taking into account force since 1 November 2017, taking into account attrition force since 1 November 2017, taking into account attrition is force since 1 November 2017, taking into account attrition is only force since 1 November 2017, taking into account attrition is only 496 into account attrition is only 496 full-time into account attrition is only 496 full-time equivalents? into account attrition is only 496 full-time equivalents? And into account attrition is only 496 full-time equivalents? And with into account attrition is only 496 full-time equivalents? And with just full-time equivalents? And with just 18 full-time equivalents? And with just 18 months full-time equivalents? And with just 18 months to full-time equivalents? And with just 18 months to go full-time equivalents? And with just 18 months to go until full-time equivalents? And with just 18 months to go until the full-time equivalents? And with just 18 months to go until the next 18 months to go until the next election, 18 months to go until the next election, how 18 months to go until the next election, how is 18 months to go until the next election, how is he 18 months to go until the next election, how is he going 18 months to go until the next election, how is he going to 18 months to go until the next election, how is he going to reach election, how is he going to reach his election, how is he going to reach his target election, how is he going to reach his target of election, how is he going to reach his target of 1,800 election, how is he going to reach his target of 1,800 new election, how is he going to reach his target of 1,800 new police election, how is he going to reach his target of 1,800 new police in his target of 1,800 new police in three his target of 1,800 new police in three years? his target of 1,800 new police in three years? On his target of 1,800 new police in three years? On behalf his target of 1,800 new police in three years? On behalf of his target of 1,800 new police in three years? On behalf of the three years? On behalf of the Minister, three years? On behalf of the Minister, what three years? On behalf of the Minister, what I three years? On behalf of the Minister, what I can three years? On behalf of the Minister, what I can confirm three years? On behalf of the Minister, what I can confirm is three years? On behalf of the Minister, what I can confirm is that Minister, what I can confirm is that the Minister, what I can confirm is that the police Minister, what I can confirm is that the police have Minister, what I can confirm is that the police have the Minister, what I can confirm is that the police have the lowest the police have the lowest attrition, the police have the lowest attrition, virtually, the police have the lowest attrition, virtually, of the police have the lowest attrition, virtually, of any the police have the lowest attrition, virtually, of any civil attrition, virtually, of any civil service attrition, virtually, of any civil service at attrition, virtually, of any civil service at now attrition, virtually, of any civil service at now 5%. attrition, virtually, of any civil service at now 5%. So attrition, virtually, of any civil service at now 5%. So keen attrition, virtually, of any civil service at now 5%. So keen are attrition, virtually, of any civil service at now 5%. So keen are the service at now 5%. So keen are the men service at now 5%. So keen are the men and service at now 5%. So keen are the men and women service at now 5%. So keen are the men and women to service at now 5%. So keen are the men and women to stay service at now 5%. So keen are the men and women to stay on, service at now 5%. So keen are the men and women to stay on, now service at now 5%. So keen are the men and women to stay on, now that men and women to stay on, now that they've men and women to stay on, now that they've got men and women to stay on, now that they've got the men and women to stay on, now that they've got the support men and women to stay on, now that they've got the support of they've got the support of Government. they've got the support of Government. What they've got the support of Government. What I they've got the support of Government. What I can they've got the support of Government. What I can also they've got the support of Government. What I can also say they've got the support of Government. What I can also say is Government. What I can also say is that Government. What I can also say is that over Government. What I can also say is that over 830 Government. What I can also say is that over 830 have Government. What I can also say is that over 830 have already Government. What I can also say is that over 830 have already been that over 830 have already been trained that over 830 have already been trained - that over 830 have already been trained - have that over 830 have already been trained - have been that over 830 have already been trained - have been trained that over 830 have already been trained - have been trained in that over 830 have already been trained - have been trained in just trained - have been trained in just 12 trained - have been trained in just 12 months. trained - have been trained in just 12 months. And trained - have been trained in just 12 months. And this trained - have been trained in just 12 months. And this week, trained - have been trained in just 12 months. And this week, on 12 months. And this week, on Thursday, 12 months. And this week, on Thursday, good 12 months. And this week, on Thursday, good news 12 months. And this week, on Thursday, good news - 12 months. And this week, on Thursday, good news - 80 12 months. And this week, on Thursday, good news - 80 will Thursday, good news - 80 will graduate Thursday, good news - 80 will graduate at Thursday, good news - 80 will graduate at college. Thursday, good news - 80 will graduate at college. And Thursday, good news - 80 will graduate at college. And just Thursday, good news - 80 will graduate at college. And just today, graduate at college. And just today, a graduate at college. And just today, a further graduate at college. And just today, a further 80 graduate at college. And just today, a further 80 have graduate at college. And just today, a further 80 have been graduate at college. And just today, a further 80 have been taken graduate at college. And just today, a further 80 have been taken on. a further 80 have been taken on. Supplementary. a further 80 have been taken on. Supplementary. If a further 80 have been taken on. Supplementary. If the a further 80 have been taken on. Supplementary. If the Government a further 80 have been taken on. Supplementary. If the Government has Supplementary. If the Government has only Supplementary. If the Government has only managed Supplementary. If the Government has only managed to Supplementary. If the Government has only managed to recruit Supplementary. If the Government has only managed to recruit 496... only managed to recruit 496... Order! only managed to recruit 496... Order! Questions only managed to recruit 496... Order! Questions start only managed to recruit 496... Order! Questions start with only managed to recruit 496... Order! Questions start with a Order! Questions start with a question Order! Questions start with a question word. Order! Questions start with a question word. Oh. Order! Questions start with a question word. Oh. OK. Order! Questions start with a question word. Oh. OK. How Order! Questions start with a question word. Oh. OK. How can Order! Questions start with a question word. Oh. OK. How can he question word. Oh. OK. How can he claim question word. Oh. OK. How can he claim the question word. Oh. OK. How can he claim the Government question word. Oh. OK. How can he claim the Government will question word. Oh. OK. How can he claim the Government will meet question word. Oh. OK. How can he claim the Government will meet its claim the Government will meet its target claim the Government will meet its target of claim the Government will meet its target of 1,800 claim the Government will meet its target of 1,800 new claim the Government will meet its target of 1,800 new police claim the Government will meet its target of 1,800 new police in claim the Government will meet its target of 1,800 new police in three target of 1,800 new police in three years, target of 1,800 new police in three years, given target of 1,800 new police in three years, given the target of 1,800 new police in three years, given the Government target of 1,800 new police in three years, given the Government has target of 1,800 new police in three years, given the Government has only years, given the Government has only managed years, given the Government has only managed to years, given the Government has only managed to recruit years, given the Government has only managed to recruit 496 years, given the Government has only managed to recruit 496 net years, given the Government has only managed to recruit 496 net new managed to recruit 496 net new police managed to recruit 496 net new police since managed to recruit 496 net new police since November managed to recruit 496 net new police since November 2017? police since November 2017? Mr police since November 2017? Mr Speaker, police since November 2017? Mr Speaker, on police since November 2017? Mr Speaker, on behalf police since November 2017? Mr Speaker, on behalf of police since November 2017? Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister of Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister of Police, Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister of Police, those Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister of Police, those graduating Minister of Police, those graduating for Minister of Police, those graduating for the Minister of Police, those graduating for the years Minister of Police, those graduating for the years 2019 Minister of Police, those graduating for the years 2019 and Minister of Police, those graduating for the years 2019 and 2020 Minister of Police, those graduating for the years 2019 and 2020 will Minister of Police, those graduating for the years 2019 and 2020 will be for the years 2019 and 2020 will be over for the years 2019 and 2020 will be over 830, for the years 2019 and 2020 will be over 830, just for the years 2019 and 2020 will be over 830, just in for the years 2019 and 2020 will be over 830, just in that for the years 2019 and 2020 will be over 830, just in that period for the years 2019 and 2020 will be over 830, just in that period of over 830, just in that period of time. over 830, just in that period of time. That's over 830, just in that period of time. That's more over 830, just in that period of time. That's more than over 830, just in that period of time. That's more than any over 830, just in that period of time. That's more than any 2-year time. That's more than any 2-year combined time. That's more than any 2-year combined period time. That's more than any 2-year combined period in time. That's more than any 2-year combined period in any time. That's more than any 2-year combined period in any previous combined period in any previous administration. combined period in any previous administration. In combined period in any previous administration. In other combined period in any previous administration. In other words, combined period in any previous administration. In other words, we administration. In other words, we are administration. In other words, we are delivering administration. In other words, we are delivering twice administration. In other words, we are delivering twice as administration. In other words, we are delivering twice as many administration. In other words, we are delivering twice as many police. are delivering twice as many police. Supplementary. are delivering twice as many police. Supplementary. Does are delivering twice as many police. Supplementary. Does he are delivering twice as many police. Supplementary. Does he accept are delivering twice as many police. Supplementary. Does he accept that Supplementary. Does he accept that official Supplementary. Does he accept that official advice Supplementary. Does he accept that official advice to Supplementary. Does he accept that official advice to him Supplementary. Does he accept that official advice to him in Supplementary. Does he accept that official advice to him in 2018 Supplementary. Does he accept that official advice to him in 2018 was official advice to him in 2018 was that official advice to him in 2018 was that he official advice to him in 2018 was that he required official advice to him in 2018 was that he required funding official advice to him in 2018 was that he required funding of official advice to him in 2018 was that he required funding of $515 that he required funding of $515 million that he required funding of $515 million over that he required funding of $515 million over four that he required funding of $515 million over four years that he required funding of $515 million over four years to that he required funding of $515 million over four years to deliver million over four years to deliver the million over four years to deliver the 1,800 million over four years to deliver the 1,800 new million over four years to deliver the 1,800 new police, million over four years to deliver the 1,800 new police, that million over four years to deliver the 1,800 new police, that Budget the 1,800 new police, that Budget 2018 the 1,800 new police, that Budget 2018 only the 1,800 new police, that Budget 2018 only appropriated the 1,800 new police, that Budget 2018 only appropriated $299 the 1,800 new police, that Budget 2018 only appropriated $299 million, 2018 only appropriated $299 million, and 2018 only appropriated $299 million, and can 2018 only appropriated $299 million, and can the 2018 only appropriated $299 million, and can the police 2018 only appropriated $299 million, and can the police expect 2018 only appropriated $299 million, and can the police expect a 2018 only appropriated $299 million, and can the police expect a further and can the police expect a further injection and can the police expect a further injection of and can the police expect a further injection of the and can the police expect a further injection of the balance and can the police expect a further injection of the balance in and can the police expect a further injection of the balance in Budget injection of the balance in Budget 2019? injection of the balance in Budget 2019? Namely, injection of the balance in Budget 2019? Namely, $216 injection of the balance in Budget 2019? Namely, $216 million. 2019? Namely, $216 million. On 2019? Namely, $216 million. On behalf 2019? Namely, $216 million. On behalf of 2019? Namely, $216 million. On behalf of the 2019? Namely, $216 million. On behalf of the Minister, 2019? Namely, $216 million. On behalf of the Minister, I 2019? Namely, $216 million. On behalf of the Minister, I always On behalf of the Minister, I always get On behalf of the Minister, I always get worried On behalf of the Minister, I always get worried when On behalf of the Minister, I always get worried when I On behalf of the Minister, I always get worried when I hear On behalf of the Minister, I always get worried when I hear people get worried when I hear people quoting get worried when I hear people quoting figures, get worried when I hear people quoting figures, particularly get worried when I hear people quoting figures, particularly when quoting figures, particularly when they're quoting figures, particularly when they're not quoting figures, particularly when they're not qualified quoting figures, particularly when they're not qualified to. quoting figures, particularly when they're not qualified to. Can quoting figures, particularly when they're not qualified to. Can I quoting figures, particularly when they're not qualified to. Can I say, they're not qualified to. Can I say, in they're not qualified to. Can I say, in particular, they're not qualified to. Can I say, in particular, here they're not qualified to. Can I say, in particular, here are they're not qualified to. Can I say, in particular, here are the they're not qualified to. Can I say, in particular, here are the real in particular, here are the real facts. in particular, here are the real facts. We in particular, here are the real facts. We have in particular, here are the real facts. We have deployed in particular, here are the real facts. We have deployed more in particular, here are the real facts. We have deployed more than facts. We have deployed more than 1,200 facts. We have deployed more than 1,200 new facts. We have deployed more than 1,200 new constables facts. We have deployed more than 1,200 new constables since facts. We have deployed more than 1,200 new constables since we facts. We have deployed more than 1,200 new constables since we have 1,200 new constables since we have been 1,200 new constables since we have been in 1,200 new constables since we have been in office. 1,200 new constables since we have been in office. That's 1,200 new constables since we have been in office. That's 1,200. 1,200 new constables since we have been in office. That's 1,200. And 1,200 new constables since we have been in office. That's 1,200. And if been in office. That's 1,200. And if you been in office. That's 1,200. And if you look been in office. That's 1,200. And if you look at been in office. That's 1,200. And if you look at the been in office. That's 1,200. And if you look at the election been in office. That's 1,200. And if you look at the election cycle, been in office. That's 1,200. And if you look at the election cycle, we you look at the election cycle, we just you look at the election cycle, we just might you look at the election cycle, we just might make you look at the election cycle, we just might make the you look at the election cycle, we just might make the 1,800 you look at the election cycle, we just might make the 1,800 before you look at the election cycle, we just might make the 1,800 before the just might make the 1,800 before the three just might make the 1,800 before the three years just might make the 1,800 before the three years is just might make the 1,800 before the three years is out. just might make the 1,800 before the three years is out. Point just might make the 1,800 before the three years is out. Point of just might make the 1,800 before the three years is out. Point of order. three years is out. Point of order. Mr three years is out. Point of order. Mr Speaker, three years is out. Point of order. Mr Speaker, with three years is out. Point of order. Mr Speaker, with respect, three years is out. Point of order. Mr Speaker, with respect, my Mr Speaker, with respect, my question Mr Speaker, with respect, my question was Mr Speaker, with respect, my question was about Mr Speaker, with respect, my question was about funding, Mr Speaker, with respect, my question was about funding, and question was about funding, and about question was about funding, and about various question was about funding, and about various budget question was about funding, and about various budget documents question was about funding, and about various budget documents that about various budget documents that are about various budget documents that are in about various budget documents that are in the about various budget documents that are in the public about various budget documents that are in the public domain. about various budget documents that are in the public domain. That are in the public domain. That answer are in the public domain. That answer was are in the public domain. That answer was about are in the public domain. That answer was about new are in the public domain. That answer was about new police answer was about new police delivered. answer was about new police delivered. The answer was about new police delivered. The question answer was about new police delivered. The question is answer was about new police delivered. The question is actually delivered. The question is actually about delivered. The question is actually about the delivered. The question is actually about the funding. delivered. The question is actually about the funding. Yes. delivered. The question is actually about the funding. Yes. And delivered. The question is actually about the funding. Yes. And I delivered. The question is actually about the funding. Yes. And I think about the funding. Yes. And I think it, about the funding. Yes. And I think it, right about the funding. Yes. And I think it, right at about the funding. Yes. And I think it, right at the about the funding. Yes. And I think it, right at the beginning, about the funding. Yes. And I think it, right at the beginning, although it, right at the beginning, although not it, right at the beginning, although not in it, right at the beginning, although not in a it, right at the beginning, although not in a very it, right at the beginning, although not in a very satisfactory it, right at the beginning, although not in a very satisfactory way, it, right at the beginning, although not in a very satisfactory way, that not in a very satisfactory way, that was not in a very satisfactory way, that was addressed. was addressed. Supplementary. was addressed. Supplementary. Does was addressed. Supplementary. Does he was addressed. Supplementary. Does he stand was addressed. Supplementary. Does he stand by was addressed. Supplementary. Does he stand by his Supplementary. Does he stand by his statement Supplementary. Does he stand by his statement of Supplementary. Does he stand by his statement of 12 Supplementary. Does he stand by his statement of 12 June Supplementary. Does he stand by his statement of 12 June 2018 Supplementary. Does he stand by his statement of 12 June 2018 that, Supplementary. Does he stand by his statement of 12 June 2018 that, in statement of 12 June 2018 that, in relation statement of 12 June 2018 that, in relation to statement of 12 June 2018 that, in relation to the statement of 12 June 2018 that, in relation to the Minister statement of 12 June 2018 that, in relation to the Minister of statement of 12 June 2018 that, in relation to the Minister of Finance, relation to the Minister of Finance, he relation to the Minister of Finance, he has relation to the Minister of Finance, he has also relation to the Minister of Finance, he has also assured relation to the Minister of Finance, he has also assured me relation to the Minister of Finance, he has also assured me if relation to the Minister of Finance, he has also assured me if I relation to the Minister of Finance, he has also assured me if I go relation to the Minister of Finance, he has also assured me if I go back he has also assured me if I go back next he has also assured me if I go back next year he has also assured me if I go back next year he he has also assured me if I go back next year he will he has also assured me if I go back next year he will top he has also assured me if I go back next year he will top me he has also assured me if I go back next year he will top me up, he has also assured me if I go back next year he will top me up, and he has also assured me if I go back next year he will top me up, and if next year he will top me up, and if he next year he will top me up, and if he doesn't next year he will top me up, and if he doesn't get next year he will top me up, and if he doesn't get the next year he will top me up, and if he doesn't get the required next year he will top me up, and if he doesn't get the required $219 he doesn't get the required $219 million he doesn't get the required $219 million top-up, he doesn't get the required $219 million top-up, how he doesn't get the required $219 million top-up, how will he doesn't get the required $219 million top-up, how will he he doesn't get the required $219 million top-up, how will he explain million top-up, how will he explain that million top-up, how will he explain that to million top-up, how will he explain that to the million top-up, how will he explain that to the Police million top-up, how will he explain that to the Police Association million top-up, how will he explain that to the Police Association that that to the Police Association that that to the Police Association that that to the Police Association that he hasn't that to the Police Association that he hasn't delivered that to the Police Association that he hasn't delivered on that to the Police Association that he hasn't delivered on his he hasn't delivered on his commitments? commitments? On commitments? On behalf commitments? On behalf of commitments? On behalf of the commitments? On behalf of the Minister, commitments? 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In fit for the Kingdom of be Heaven. In short, fit for the Kingdom of be Heaven. In short, he's fit for the Kingdom of be Heaven. In short, he's going fit for the Kingdom of be Heaven. In short, he's going to fit for the Kingdom of be Heaven. In short, he's going to see fit for the Kingdom of be Heaven. In short, he's going to see the short, he's going to see the Minister short, he's going to see the Minister of short, he's going to see the Minister of Finance short, he's going to see the Minister of Finance determined short, he's going to see the Minister of Finance determined to Minister of Finance determined to succeed. Minister of Finance determined to succeed. Question Minister of Finance determined to succeed. Question No. Minister of Finance determined to succeed. Question No. 12. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Internal My question is to the Minister of Internal Affairs: Internal Affairs: What Internal Affairs: What recent Internal Affairs: What recent announcements Internal Affairs: What recent announcements has Internal Affairs: What recent announcements has she What recent announcements has she made What recent announcements has she made regarding made regarding the made regarding the recovery made regarding the recovery from made regarding the recovery from the made regarding the recovery from the devastating the recovery from the devastating Tasman the recovery from the devastating Tasman fire? The The Hon The Hon Tracey The Hon Tracey Martin. The Hon Tracey Martin. Thank The Hon Tracey Martin. Thank you, The Hon Tracey Martin. Thank you, Mr The Hon Tracey Martin. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The Hon Tracey Martin. Thank you, Mr Speaker. It The Hon Tracey Martin. Thank you, Mr Speaker. It was The Hon Tracey Martin. Thank you, Mr Speaker. It was a The Hon Tracey Martin. Thank you, Mr Speaker. It was a pleasure The Hon Tracey Martin. Thank you, Mr Speaker. It was a pleasure on Speaker. It was a pleasure on Saturday Speaker. It was a pleasure on Saturday last Speaker. It was a pleasure on Saturday last week Speaker. It was a pleasure on Saturday last week to Speaker. It was a pleasure on Saturday last week to attend Speaker. It was a pleasure on Saturday last week to attend an Saturday last week to attend an event Saturday last week to attend an event at Saturday last week to attend an event at the Saturday last week to attend an event at the Richmond Saturday last week to attend an event at the Richmond Fire Saturday last week to attend an event at the Richmond Fire Station event at the Richmond Fire Station to event at the Richmond Fire Station to acknowledge event at the Richmond Fire Station to acknowledge International to acknowledge International Firefighters' to acknowledge International Firefighters' Day. to acknowledge International Firefighters' Day. And to acknowledge International Firefighters' Day. And can to acknowledge International Firefighters' Day. And can I to acknowledge International Firefighters' Day. And can I thank Firefighters' Day. And can I thank all Firefighters' Day. And can I thank all the Firefighters' Day. And can I thank all the members Firefighters' Day. And can I thank all the members across Firefighters' Day. And can I thank all the members across the Firefighters' Day. And can I thank all the members across the House all the members across the House that all the members across the House that also all the members across the House that also did all the members across the House that also did that all the members across the House that also did that to all the members across the House that also did that to acknowledge that also did that to acknowledge their that also did that to acknowledge their local that also did that to acknowledge their local firefighters. that also did that to acknowledge their local firefighters. I their local firefighters. I particularly their local firefighters. I particularly want their local firefighters. I particularly want to their local firefighters. I particularly want to acknowledge particularly want to acknowledge Melissa particularly want to acknowledge Melissa Lee particularly want to acknowledge Melissa Lee and particularly want to acknowledge Melissa Lee and how particularly want to acknowledge Melissa Lee and how wonderful particularly want to acknowledge Melissa Lee and how wonderful she Melissa Lee and how wonderful she looked Melissa Lee and how wonderful she looked in Melissa Lee and how wonderful she looked in their Melissa Lee and how wonderful she looked in their level Melissa Lee and how wonderful she looked in their level 2 Melissa Lee and how wonderful she looked in their level 2 gear. Melissa Lee and how wonderful she looked in their level 2 gear. At looked in their level 2 gear. At that looked in their level 2 gear. At that event, looked in their level 2 gear. At that event, I looked in their level 2 gear. At that event, I had looked in their level 2 gear. At that event, I had the looked in their level 2 gear. At that event, I had the opportunity looked in their level 2 gear. At that event, I had the opportunity to that event, I had the opportunity to announce that event, I had the opportunity to announce another that event, I had the opportunity to announce another $792,000 that event, I had the opportunity to announce another $792,000 from that event, I had the opportunity to announce another $792,000 from the announce another $792,000 from the Lottery announce another $792,000 from the Lottery Grants announce another $792,000 from the Lottery Grants Board announce another $792,000 from the Lottery Grants Board for announce another $792,000 from the Lottery Grants Board for the Lottery Grants Board for the restoration Lottery Grants Board for the restoration efforts Lottery Grants Board for the restoration efforts via Lottery Grants Board for the restoration efforts via the Lottery Grants Board for the restoration efforts via the Tasman restoration efforts via the Tasman disaster restoration efforts via the Tasman disaster relief restoration efforts via the Tasman disaster relief fund. restoration efforts via the Tasman disaster relief fund. If restoration efforts via the Tasman disaster relief fund. If I restoration efforts via the Tasman disaster relief fund. If I gave restoration efforts via the Tasman disaster relief fund. If I gave that disaster relief fund. If I gave that answer, disaster relief fund. If I gave that answer, I disaster relief fund. If I gave that answer, I would disaster relief fund. If I gave that answer, I would be disaster relief fund. If I gave that answer, I would be in disaster relief fund. If I gave that answer, I would be in trouble. disaster relief fund. If I gave that answer, I would be in trouble. Mark answer, I would be in trouble. Mark Patterson. answer, I would be in trouble. Mark Patterson. Is answer, I would be in trouble. Mark Patterson. Is this answer, I would be in trouble. Mark Patterson. Is this the answer, I would be in trouble. Mark Patterson. Is this the only answer, I would be in trouble. Mark Patterson. Is this the only funding Patterson. Is this the only funding the Patterson. Is this the only funding the Lottery Patterson. Is this the only funding the Lottery Grants Patterson. Is this the only funding the Lottery Grants Board Patterson. Is this the only funding the Lottery Grants Board has the Lottery Grants Board has provided the Lottery Grants Board has provided for the Lottery Grants Board has provided for the the Lottery Grants Board has provided for the restoration provided for the restoration efforts? provided for the restoration efforts? No. provided for the restoration efforts? No. Earlier provided for the restoration efforts? No. Earlier this provided for the restoration efforts? No. Earlier this year, provided for the restoration efforts? No. Earlier this year, on efforts? No. Earlier this year, on 15 efforts? No. Earlier this year, on 15 March, efforts? No. Earlier this year, on 15 March, I efforts? No. Earlier this year, on 15 March, I travelled efforts? No. Earlier this year, on 15 March, I travelled to efforts? No. Earlier this year, on 15 March, I travelled to Nelson efforts? No. Earlier this year, on 15 March, I travelled to Nelson to 15 March, I travelled to Nelson to announce 15 March, I travelled to Nelson to announce an 15 March, I travelled to Nelson to announce an initial 15 March, I travelled to Nelson to announce an initial payment 15 March, I travelled to Nelson to announce an initial payment of 15 March, I travelled to Nelson to announce an initial payment of $1 announce an initial payment of $1 million announce an initial payment of $1 million of announce an initial payment of $1 million of Lottery announce an initial payment of $1 million of Lottery Grants announce an initial payment of $1 million of Lottery Grants Board million of Lottery Grants Board funding million of Lottery Grants Board funding through million of Lottery Grants Board funding through my million of Lottery Grants Board funding through my Lottery funding through my Lottery Ministerial funding through my Lottery Ministerial discretionary funding through my Lottery Ministerial discretionary fund. funding through my Lottery Ministerial discretionary fund. This Ministerial discretionary fund. This is Ministerial discretionary fund. This is recognition Ministerial discretionary fund. This is recognition that Ministerial discretionary fund. This is recognition that fire Ministerial discretionary fund. This is recognition that fire and is recognition that fire and emergency is recognition that fire and emergency New is recognition that fire and emergency New Zealand is recognition that fire and emergency New Zealand and is recognition that fire and emergency New Zealand and the is recognition that fire and emergency New Zealand and the Tasman emergency New Zealand and the Tasman District emergency New Zealand and the Tasman District Council emergency New Zealand and the Tasman District Council have emergency New Zealand and the Tasman District Council have since emergency New Zealand and the Tasman District Council have since made