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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. of New Zealand. Amen. I of New Zealand. Amen. I am of New Zealand. Amen. I am sure of New Zealand. Amen. I am sure that of New Zealand. Amen. I am sure that members of New Zealand. Amen. I am sure that members would of New Zealand. Amen. I am sure that members would wish of New Zealand. Amen. 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Petitions of Karen Dow requesting Petitions of Karen Dow requesting that Petitions of Karen Dow requesting that the Petitions of Karen Dow requesting that the House Petitions of Karen Dow requesting that the House urgently Petitions of Karen Dow requesting that the House urgently pass that the House urgently pass legislation that the House urgently pass legislation to that the House urgently pass legislation to introduce that the House urgently pass legislation to introduce random legislation to introduce random roadside legislation to introduce random roadside drug legislation to introduce random roadside drug testing legislation to introduce random roadside drug testing to legislation to introduce random roadside drug testing to reduce legislation to introduce random roadside drug testing to reduce the roadside drug testing to reduce the escalating roadside drug testing to reduce the escalating road roadside drug testing to reduce the escalating road toll roadside drug testing to reduce the escalating road toll from roadside drug testing to reduce the escalating road toll from drugged escalating road toll from drugged drivers. drivers. 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Now Now to Now to oral Now to oral questions. Now to oral questions. Deborah Now to oral questions. Deborah Russell. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: My question is to the Minister of Finance: What My question is to the Minister of Finance: What recent My question is to the Minister of Finance: What recent reports My question is to the Minister of Finance: What recent reports has of Finance: What recent reports has he of Finance: What recent reports has he seen of Finance: What recent reports has he seen on of Finance: What recent reports has he seen on the of Finance: What recent reports has he seen on the New of Finance: What recent reports has he seen on the New Zealand of Finance: What recent reports has he seen on the New Zealand economy? 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Has New Zealanders get a fair deal. Has this New Zealanders get a fair deal. Has this government New Zealanders get a fair deal. Has this government increased New Zealanders get a fair deal. Has this government increased the New Zealanders get a fair deal. Has this government increased the petrol this government increased the petrol taxes this government increased the petrol taxes some this government increased the petrol taxes some 16 this government increased the petrol taxes some 16 cents this government increased the petrol taxes some 16 cents a this government increased the petrol taxes some 16 cents a litre this government increased the petrol taxes some 16 cents a litre if this government increased the petrol taxes some 16 cents a litre if you taxes some 16 cents a litre if you are taxes some 16 cents a litre if you are in taxes some 16 cents a litre if you are in Auckland taxes some 16 cents a litre if you are in Auckland and taxes some 16 cents a litre if you are in Auckland and wouldn't taxes some 16 cents a litre if you are in Auckland and wouldn't the are in Auckland and wouldn't the petrol are in Auckland and wouldn't the petrol prices, are in Auckland and wouldn't the petrol prices, if are in Auckland and wouldn't the petrol prices, if it are in Auckland and wouldn't the petrol prices, if it wasn't are in Auckland and wouldn't the petrol prices, if it wasn't for petrol prices, if it wasn't for that, petrol prices, if it wasn't for that, be petrol prices, if it wasn't for that, be around petrol prices, if it wasn't for that, be around $2, petrol prices, if it wasn't for that, be around $2, possibly petrol prices, if it wasn't for that, be around $2, possibly less? that, be around $2, possibly less? 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Is the reason why teachers will go Is the reason why teachers will go on Is the reason why teachers will go on strike Is the reason why teachers will go on strike the Is the reason why teachers will go on strike the day Is the reason why teachers will go on strike the day before Is the reason why teachers will go on strike the day before the Is the reason why teachers will go on strike the day before the Budget on strike the day before the Budget and on strike the day before the Budget and create on strike the day before the Budget and create huge on strike the day before the Budget and create huge disruption on strike the day before the Budget and create huge disruption for and create huge disruption for parents and create huge disruption for parents and and create huge disruption for parents and families and create huge disruption for parents and families across and create huge disruption for parents and families across New parents and families across New Zealand parents and families across New Zealand because parents and families across New Zealand because of parents and families across New Zealand because of the parents and families across New Zealand because of the slowing Zealand because of the slowing economy Zealand because of the slowing economy and Zealand because of the slowing economy and $600 Zealand because of the slowing economy and $600 million Zealand because of the slowing economy and $600 million lower Zealand because of the slowing economy and $600 million lower tax economy and $600 million lower tax revenue? economy and $600 million lower tax revenue? No, economy and $600 million lower tax revenue? No, Mr economy and $600 million lower tax revenue? No, Mr Speaker. economy and $600 million lower tax revenue? No, Mr Speaker. I economy and $600 million lower tax revenue? No, Mr Speaker. I think economy and $600 million lower tax revenue? No, Mr Speaker. I think if revenue? No, Mr Speaker. I think if you revenue? No, Mr Speaker. I think if you ask revenue? No, Mr Speaker. I think if you ask any revenue? No, Mr Speaker. I think if you ask any teacher revenue? No, Mr Speaker. I think if you ask any teacher why revenue? No, Mr Speaker. I think if you ask any teacher why they revenue? No, Mr Speaker. I think if you ask any teacher why they are you ask any teacher why they are striking, you ask any teacher why they are striking, they you ask any teacher why they are striking, they will you ask any teacher why they are striking, they will not you ask any teacher why they are striking, they will not say you ask any teacher why they are striking, they will not say it you ask any teacher why they are striking, they will not say it is striking, they will not say it is because striking, they will not say it is because of striking, they will not say it is because of the striking, they will not say it is because of the economy. striking, they will not say it is because of the economy. We striking, they will not say it is because of the economy. We know striking, they will not say it is because of the economy. We know that because of the economy. We know that the because of the economy. We know that the issues because of the economy. We know that the issues that because of the economy. We know that the issues that they because of the economy. We know that the issues that they are because of the economy. We know that the issues that they are raising because of the economy. We know that the issues that they are raising are the issues that they are raising are around the issues that they are raising are around things the issues that they are raising are around things like the issues that they are raising are around things like noncontact the issues that they are raising are around things like noncontact time. around things like noncontact time. Mr around things like noncontact time. Mr Speaker, around things like noncontact time. Mr Speaker, one around things like noncontact time. Mr Speaker, one of around things like noncontact time. Mr Speaker, one of the around things like noncontact time. Mr Speaker, one of the issues around things like noncontact time. 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That member will well know, I hope, member will well know, I hope, enrolments member will well know, I hope, enrolments in member will well know, I hope, enrolments in initial member will well know, I hope, enrolments in initial teacher enrolments in initial teacher education enrolments in initial teacher education plummeted enrolments in initial teacher education plummeted by enrolments in initial teacher education plummeted by 40% enrolments in initial teacher education plummeted by 40% under enrolments in initial teacher education plummeted by 40% under his education plummeted by 40% under his government. education plummeted by 40% under his government. We education plummeted by 40% under his government. We do education plummeted by 40% under his government. We do not education plummeted by 40% under his government. We do not have education plummeted by 40% under his government. We do not have enough government. We do not have enough teachers government. We do not have enough teachers in government. We do not have enough teachers in New government. We do not have enough teachers in New Zealand government. We do not have enough teachers in New Zealand and, government. We do not have enough teachers in New Zealand and, yes, government. We do not have enough teachers in New Zealand and, yes, Mr teachers in New Zealand and, yes, Mr Speaker, teachers in New Zealand and, yes, Mr Speaker, I teachers in New Zealand and, yes, Mr Speaker, I hop teachers in New Zealand and, yes, Mr Speaker, I hop the, teachers in New Zealand and, yes, Mr Speaker, I hop the, on teachers in New Zealand and, yes, Mr Speaker, I hop the, on average Speaker, I hop the, on average additional Speaker, I hop the, on average additional $10,000 Speaker, I hop the, on average additional $10,000 we Speaker, I hop the, on average additional $10,000 we are Speaker, I hop the, on average additional $10,000 we are offering additional $10,000 we are offering teachers additional $10,000 we are offering teachers will additional $10,000 we are offering teachers will hopefully additional $10,000 we are offering teachers will hopefully make additional $10,000 we are offering teachers will hopefully make that teachers will hopefully make that difference teachers will hopefully make that difference to teachers will hopefully make that difference to attract teachers will hopefully make that difference to attract people teachers will hopefully make that difference to attract people into difference to attract people into the difference to attract people into the profession. difference to attract people into the profession. We difference to attract people into the profession. We can difference to attract people into the profession. We can note difference to attract people into the profession. We can note solve the profession. We can note solve the the profession. We can note solve the supply the profession. We can note solve the supply problem the profession. We can note solve the supply problem they the profession. We can note solve the supply problem they left the profession. We can note solve the supply problem they left us the supply problem they left us overnight. the supply problem they left us overnight. Supplementary the supply problem they left us overnight. Supplementary question. overnight. Supplementary question. The overnight. Supplementary question. The Rt overnight. Supplementary question. The Rt Hon overnight. Supplementary question. The Rt Hon Winston overnight. Supplementary question. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. overnight. Supplementary question. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can overnight. Supplementary question. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can the The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can the PM The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can the PM tell The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can the PM tell us The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can the PM tell us why The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can the PM tell us why she The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can the PM tell us why she is The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can the PM tell us why she is adamantly PM tell us why she is adamantly opposed PM tell us why she is adamantly opposed to PM tell us why she is adamantly opposed to putting PM tell us why she is adamantly opposed to putting up PM tell us why she is adamantly opposed to putting up goods PM tell us why she is adamantly opposed to putting up goods and opposed to putting up goods and services opposed to putting up goods and services tax opposed to putting up goods and services tax like opposed to putting up goods and services tax like the opposed to putting up goods and services tax like the previous services tax like the previous government services tax like the previous government did? services tax like the previous government did? Mr services tax like the previous government did? Mr Speaker, services tax like the previous government did? Mr Speaker, I services tax like the previous government did? Mr Speaker, I think government did? Mr Speaker, I think the government did? 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You will already have seen, Mr Speaker, our intent through seen, Mr Speaker, our intent through the seen, Mr Speaker, our intent through the pre-budget seen, Mr Speaker, our intent through the pre-budget announcements seen, Mr Speaker, our intent through the pre-budget announcements things the pre-budget announcements things like the pre-budget announcements things like the the pre-budget announcements things like the $320 the pre-budget announcements things like the $320 million the pre-budget announcements things like the $320 million investment the pre-budget announcements things like the $320 million investment and like the $320 million investment and family like the $320 million investment and family and like the $320 million investment and family and sexual like the $320 million investment and family and sexual violence, like the $320 million investment and family and sexual violence, the family and sexual violence, the biggest family and sexual violence, the biggest single family and sexual violence, the biggest single investment family and sexual violence, the biggest single investment ever family and sexual violence, the biggest single investment ever made biggest single investment ever made into biggest single investment ever made into that biggest single investment ever made into that area, biggest single investment ever made into that area, Mr biggest single investment ever made into that area, Mr Speaker. biggest single investment ever made into that area, Mr Speaker. The into that area, Mr Speaker. The priorities into that area, Mr Speaker. The priorities we into that area, Mr Speaker. The priorities we have into that area, Mr Speaker. The priorities we have set into that area, Mr Speaker. The priorities we have set as into that area, Mr Speaker. The priorities we have set as a priorities we have set as a government priorities we have set as a government have priorities we have set as a government have both priorities we have set as a government have both been priorities we have set as a government have both been about government have both been about transitioning government have both been about transitioning our government have both been about transitioning our economy, government have both been about transitioning our economy, but government have both been about transitioning our economy, but also transitioning our economy, but also acknowledging transitioning our economy, but also acknowledging we transitioning our economy, but also acknowledging we are transitioning our economy, but also acknowledging we are nothing transitioning our economy, but also acknowledging we are nothing without acknowledging we are nothing without our acknowledging we are nothing without our people acknowledging we are nothing without our people and acknowledging we are nothing without our people and that acknowledging we are nothing without our people and that is acknowledging we are nothing without our people and that is why acknowledging we are nothing without our people and that is why we acknowledging we are nothing without our people and that is why we have acknowledging we are nothing without our people and that is why we have a our people and that is why we have a Wellbeing our people and that is why we have a Wellbeing Budget. our people and that is why we have a Wellbeing Budget. Is our people and that is why we have a Wellbeing Budget. Is the our people and that is why we have a Wellbeing Budget. Is the weakening Wellbeing Budget. Is the weakening Wellbeing Budget. Is the weakening Wellbeing Budget. Is the weakening economy and Wellbeing Budget. Is the weakening economy and lower Wellbeing Budget. Is the weakening economy and lower tax Wellbeing Budget. Is the weakening economy and lower tax refugee economy and lower tax refugee withdrew, economy and lower tax refugee withdrew, in economy and lower tax refugee withdrew, in fact, economy and lower tax refugee withdrew, in fact, her economy and lower tax refugee withdrew, in fact, her biggest withdrew, in fact, her biggest policy withdrew, in fact, her biggest policy fail withdrew, in fact, her biggest policy fail in withdrew, in fact, her biggest policy fail in her withdrew, in fact, her biggest policy fail in her year withdrew, in fact, her biggest policy fail in her year of withdrew, in fact, her biggest policy fail in her year of delivery? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, no. Mr Speaker, no. I Mr Speaker, no. I can Mr Speaker, no. I can see Mr Speaker, no. I can see the Mr Speaker, no. I can see the member Mr Speaker, no. I can see the member is Mr Speaker, no. I can see the member is enthusiastic Mr Speaker, no. I can see the member is enthusiastic to Mr Speaker, no. I can see the member is enthusiastic to see Mr Speaker, no. I can see the member is enthusiastic to see what Mr Speaker, no. I can see the member is enthusiastic to see what the is enthusiastic to see what the Budget is enthusiastic to see what the Budget will is enthusiastic to see what the Budget will bring, is enthusiastic to see what the Budget will bring, as is enthusiastic to see what the Budget will bring, as am is enthusiastic to see what the Budget will bring, as am I. is enthusiastic to see what the Budget will bring, as am I. Question Budget will bring, as am I. Question No. Budget will bring, as am I. Question No. 3, Budget will bring, as am I. Question No. 3, Jan Budget will bring, as am I. Question No. 3, Jan Tinetti. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Education: My question is to the Minister of Education: What My question is to the Minister of Education: What recent My question is to the Minister of Education: What recent steps, My question is to the Minister of Education: What recent steps, if Education: What recent steps, if any, Education: What recent steps, if any, has Education: What recent steps, if any, has the Education: What recent steps, if any, has the Government Education: What recent steps, if any, has the Government taken Education: What recent steps, if any, has the Government taken to any, has the Government taken to ensure any, has the Government taken to ensure that any, has the Government taken to ensure that young any, has the Government taken to ensure that young New any, has the Government taken to ensure that young New Zealanders ensure that young New Zealanders leave ensure that young New Zealanders leave school ensure that young New Zealanders leave school with ensure that young New Zealanders leave school with the ensure that young New Zealanders leave school with the skills ensure that young New Zealanders leave school with the skills they leave school with the skills they need leave school with the skills they need to leave school with the skills they need to succeed leave school with the skills they need to succeed and leave school with the skills they need to succeed and thrive leave school with the skills they need to succeed and thrive in leave school with the skills they need to succeed and thrive in the need to succeed and thrive in the workforce need to succeed and thrive in the workforce and need to succeed and thrive in the workforce and in need to succeed and thrive in the workforce and in society? The The Hon The Hon Chris The Hon Chris Hipkins. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, earlier The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, earlier this The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, earlier this month, The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, earlier this month, I The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, earlier this month, I announced The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, earlier this month, I announced a earlier this month, I announced a number earlier this month, I announced a number of earlier this month, I announced a number of imprivatements earlier this month, I announced a number of imprivatements to earlier this month, I announced a number of imprivatements to the number of imprivatements to the national number of imprivatements to the national certificate number of imprivatements to the national certificate of number of imprivatements to the national certificate of educational national certificate of educational achievement national certificate of educational number national certificate of educational achievement or NCEA. national certificate of educational achievement or NCEA. They national certificate of educational achievement or NCEA. They address achievement or NCEA. They address limitations achievement or NCEA. They address limitations and achievement or NCEA. They address limitations and unintended limitations and unintended consequences limitations and unintended consequences that limitations and unintended consequences that have limitations and unintended consequences that have built limitations and unintended consequences that have built up limitations and unintended consequences that have built up over consequences that have built up over time, consequences that have built up over time, such consequences that have built up over time, such as consequences that have built up over time, such as overassessment. consequences that have built up over time, such as overassessment. We consequences that have built up over time, such as overassessment. We are time, such as overassessment. We are going time, such as overassessment. We are going to time, such as overassessment. We are going to strengthen time, such as overassessment. We are going to strengthen the time, such as overassessment. We are going to strengthen the literacy time, such as overassessment. We are going to strengthen the literacy and going to strengthen the literacy and numeracy going to strengthen the literacy and numeracy requirements, going to strengthen the literacy and numeracy requirements, have going to strengthen the literacy and numeracy requirements, have fewer numeracy requirements, have fewer larger numeracy requirements, have fewer larger standards, numeracy requirements, have fewer larger standards, simplify numeracy requirements, have fewer larger standards, simplify the numeracy requirements, have fewer larger standards, simplify the NCEA larger standards, simplify the NCEA structure larger standards, simplify the NCEA structure and, larger standards, simplify the NCEA structure and, importantly, larger standards, simplify the NCEA structure and, importantly, show structure and, importantly, show clearer structure and, importantly, show clearer pathways structure and, importantly, show clearer pathways to structure and, importantly, show clearer pathways to further clearer pathways to further education clearer pathways to further education and clearer pathways to further education and employment clearer pathways to further education and employment as clearer pathways to further education and employment as a clearer pathways to further education and employment as a result education and employment as a result of education and employment as a result of qualification education and employment as a result of qualification attainment. education and employment as a result of qualification attainment. These of qualification attainment. These improvements of qualification attainment. These improvements will of qualification attainment. These improvements will make of qualification attainment. These improvements will make NCEA of qualification attainment. These improvements will make NCEA more improvements will make NCEA more credible improvements will make NCEA more credible and improvements will make NCEA more credible and more improvements will make NCEA more credible and more robust. improvements will make NCEA more credible and more robust. How improvements will make NCEA more credible and more robust. How will credible and more robust. How will these credible and more robust. How will these changes credible and more robust. How will these changes make credible and more robust. How will these changes make sure credible and more robust. How will these changes make sure that these changes make sure that students these changes make sure that students are these changes make sure that students are getting these changes make sure that students are getting a these changes make sure that students are getting a good students are getting a good grounding students are getting a good grounding in students are getting a good grounding in literacy students are getting a good grounding in literacy and students are getting a good grounding in literacy and numeracy? grounding in literacy and numeracy? Mr grounding in literacy and numeracy? Mr Speaker, grounding in literacy and numeracy? Mr Speaker, literacy grounding in literacy and numeracy? Mr Speaker, literacy and grounding in literacy and numeracy? 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What we are going to do now is address the issue. What we are going to do now is to address the issue. What we are going to do now is to drop address the issue. What we are going to do now is to drop a address the issue. What we are going to do now is to drop a coherent address the issue. What we are going to do now is to drop a coherent 20 to do now is to drop a coherent 20 credit to do now is to drop a coherent 20 credit package to do now is to drop a coherent 20 credit package of to do now is to drop a coherent 20 credit package of standards to do now is to drop a coherent 20 credit package of standards for credit package of standards for literacy credit package of standards for literacy and credit package of standards for literacy and numeracy. credit package of standards for literacy and numeracy. These credit package of standards for literacy and numeracy. These new literacy and numeracy. These new requirements literacy and numeracy. These new requirements will literacy and numeracy. These new requirements will need literacy and numeracy. These new requirements will need to literacy and numeracy. These new requirements will need to be literacy and numeracy. These new requirements will need to be met literacy and numeracy. These new requirements will need to be met as requirements will need to be met as a requirements will need to be met as a co-requisite requirements will need to be met as a co-requisite requirement requirements will need to be met as a co-requisite requirement in requirements will need to be met as a co-requisite requirement in order a co-requisite requirement in order tow a co-requisite requirement in order tow gain a co-requisite requirement in order tow gain NCEA a co-requisite requirement in order tow gain NCEA at a co-requisite requirement in order tow gain NCEA at any a co-requisite requirement in order tow gain NCEA at any level, a co-requisite requirement in order tow gain NCEA at any level, rather tow gain NCEA at any level, rather than tow gain NCEA at any level, rather than be tow gain NCEA at any level, rather than be part tow gain NCEA at any level, rather than be part of tow gain NCEA at any level, rather than be part of the tow gain NCEA at any level, rather than be part of the qualifications than be part of the qualifications themselves. than be part of the qualifications themselves. 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Student also be able to meet those standards when they are meet those standards when they are ready, meet those standards when they are ready, which meet those standards when they are ready, which may meet those standards when they are ready, which may be meet those standards when they are ready, which may be as meet those standards when they are ready, which may be as early meet those standards when they are ready, which may be as early as meet those standards when they are ready, which may be as early as Year ready, which may be as early as Year 7 ready, which may be as early as Year 7 in ready, which may be as early as Year 7 in schooling. ready, which may be as early as Year 7 in schooling. The ready, which may be as early as Year 7 in schooling. The standards ready, which may be as early as Year 7 in schooling. The standards are 7 in schooling. The standards are also 7 in schooling. The standards are also going 7 in schooling. The standards are also going to 7 in schooling. The standards are also going to be 7 in schooling. The standards are also going to be externally 7 in schooling. The standards are also going to be externally graded also going to be externally graded to also going to be externally graded to avoid also going to be externally graded to avoid increasing also going to be externally graded to avoid increasing teacher also going to be externally graded to avoid increasing teacher workload to avoid increasing teacher workload and to avoid increasing teacher workload and also to avoid increasing teacher workload and also to to avoid increasing teacher workload and also to strengthen to avoid increasing teacher workload and also to strengthen the and also to strengthen the credibility and also to strengthen the credibility of and also to strengthen the credibility of the and also to strengthen the credibility of the literacy and also to strengthen the credibility of the literacy and credibility of the literacy and numeracy credibility of the literacy and numeracy requirements. credibility of the literacy and numeracy requirements. Is credibility of the literacy and numeracy requirements. Is there credibility of the literacy and numeracy requirements. Is there a numeracy requirements. Is there a risk numeracy requirements. Is there a risk that numeracy requirements. Is there a risk that these numeracy requirements. Is there a risk that these changes numeracy requirements. Is there a risk that these changes will numeracy requirements. Is there a risk that these changes will take numeracy requirements. Is there a risk that these changes will take us risk that these changes will take us backwards risk that these changes will take us backwards towards risk that these changes will take us backwards towards an risk that these changes will take us backwards towards an excessive risk that these changes will take us backwards towards an excessive focus backwards towards an excessive focus on backwards towards an excessive focus on exams? backwards towards an excessive focus on exams? Mr backwards towards an excessive focus on exams? Mr Speaker, backwards towards an excessive focus on exams? Mr Speaker, no. backwards towards an excessive focus on exams? Mr Speaker, no. I backwards towards an excessive focus on exams? Mr Speaker, no. I want backwards towards an excessive focus on exams? Mr Speaker, no. I want to on exams? Mr Speaker, no. I want to be on exams? Mr Speaker, no. I want to be very on exams? Mr Speaker, no. I want to be very clear on exams? Mr Speaker, no. I want to be very clear about on exams? Mr Speaker, no. I want to be very clear about that. on exams? Mr Speaker, no. I want to be very clear about that. No on exams? Mr Speaker, no. I want to be very clear about that. No changes be very clear about that. No changes have be very clear about that. No changes have been be very clear about that. No changes have been made be very clear about that. No changes have been made to be very clear about that. No changes have been made to the be very clear about that. No changes have been made to the types be very clear about that. No changes have been made to the types of have been made to the types of credits have been made to the types of credits the have been made to the types of credits the backstop have been made to the types of credits the backstop gain have been made to the types of credits the backstop gain NCEA. have been made to the types of credits the backstop gain NCEA. It credits the backstop gain NCEA. It will credits the backstop gain NCEA. It will still credits the backstop gain NCEA. It will still be credits the backstop gain NCEA. It will still be possible credits the backstop gain NCEA. It will still be possible to credits the backstop gain NCEA. It will still be possible to gain credits the backstop gain NCEA. It will still be possible to gain NCEA will still be possible to gain NCEA through will still be possible to gain NCEA through a will still be possible to gain NCEA through a large will still be possible to gain NCEA through a large amount will still be possible to gain NCEA through a large amount of will still be possible to gain NCEA through a large amount of internal through a large amount of internal assessment. through a large amount of internal assessment. What through a large amount of internal assessment. What we through a large amount of internal assessment. What we are through a large amount of internal assessment. What we are aiming through a large amount of internal assessment. What we are aiming for assessment. What we are aiming for is assessment. What we are aiming for is that assessment. What we are aiming for is that half assessment. What we are aiming for is that half of assessment. What we are aiming for is that half of the assessment. What we are aiming for is that half of the standards is that half of the standards available is that half of the standards available now is that half of the standards available now be is that half of the standards available now be externally available now be externally addressed. available now be externally addressed. Schools available now be externally addressed. Schools teaching available now be externally addressed. Schools teaching standard addressed. Schools teaching standard subjects addressed. Schools teaching standard subjects but addressed. Schools teaching standard subjects but where addressed. Schools teaching standard subjects but where they addressed. Schools teaching standard subjects but where they are addressed. Schools teaching standard subjects but where they are teaching subjects but where they are teaching standard subjects but where they are teaching standard subjects subjects but where they are teaching standard subjects external standard subjects external assessment standard subjects external standard standard subjects external assessment would make standard subjects external assessment would make up standard subjects external assessment would make up half standard subjects external assessment would make up half of standard subjects external assessment would make up half of the assessment would make up half of the credits assessment would make up half of the credits in assessment would make up half of the credits in each assessment would make up half of the credits in each subject. assessment would make up half of the credits in each subject. It assessment would make up half of the credits in each subject. It is credits in each subject. It is important credits in each subject. It is important to credits in each subject. It is important to remember credits in each subject. It is important to remember that credits in each subject. It is important to remember that not credits in each subject. It is important to remember that not all important to remember that not all external important to remember that not all external assessments important to remember that not all external assessments are important to remember that not all external assessments are exams. important to remember that not all external assessments are exams. They external assessments are exams. They can external assessments are exams. They can include external assessments are exams. They can include things external assessments are exams. They can include things like external assessments are exams. They can include things like portfolios, can include things like portfolios, reports, can include things like portfolios, reports, performances can include things like portfolios, reports, performances and reports, performances and investigations, reports, performances and investigations, common reports, performances and investigations, common assessment investigations, common assessment tasks. investigations, common assessment tasks. Will investigations, common assessment tasks. Will these investigations, common assessment tasks. Will these changes investigations, common assessment tasks. Will these changes improve tasks. Will these changes improve support tasks. Will these changes improve support for tasks. Will these changes improve support for students tasks. Will these changes improve support for students to tasks. Will these changes improve support for students to undertake support for students to undertake NCEA support for students to undertake NCEA through support for students to undertake NCEA through Maori support for students to undertake NCEA through Maori medium support for students to undertake NCEA through Maori medium education? NCEA through Maori medium education? Mr NCEA through Maori medium education? Mr Speaker, NCEA through Maori medium education? Mr Speaker, yes. NCEA through Maori medium education? Mr Speaker, yes. This NCEA through Maori medium education? Mr Speaker, yes. This is NCEA through Maori medium education? Mr Speaker, yes. This is long Mr Speaker, yes. This is long overdue. Mr Speaker, yes. This is long overdue. The Mr Speaker, yes. This is long overdue. The default Mr Speaker, yes. This is long overdue. The default choice Mr Speaker, yes. This is long overdue. The default choice that overdue. The default choice that many overdue. The default choice that many whanau overdue. The default choice that many whanau faces overdue. The default choice that many whanau faces to overdue. The default choice that many whanau faces to relate overdue. The default choice that many whanau faces to relate to many whanau faces to relate to English many whanau faces to relate to English language many whanau faces to relate to English language schooling many whanau faces to relate to English language schooling at English language schooling at secondary English language schooling at secondary level, English language schooling at secondary level, the English language schooling at secondary level, the government English language schooling at secondary level, the government has secondary level, the government has already secondary level, the government has already announced secondary level, the government has already announced more secondary level, the government has already announced more investment secondary level, the government has already announced more investment to already announced more investment to recruit already announced more investment to recruit and already announced more investment to recruit and train already announced more investment to recruit and train teachers already announced more investment to recruit and train teachers in already announced more investment to recruit and train teachers in Te already announced more investment to recruit and train teachers in Te Reo recruit and train teachers in Te Reo Maori recruit and train teachers in Te Reo Maori and recruit and train teachers in Te Reo Maori and we recruit and train teachers in Te Reo Maori and we will recruit and train teachers in Te Reo Maori and we will be recruit and train teachers in Te Reo Maori and we will be ensuring recruit and train teachers in Te Reo Maori and we will be ensuring that recruit and train teachers in Te Reo Maori and we will be ensuring that a Maori and we will be ensuring that a much Maori and we will be ensuring that a much greater Maori and we will be ensuring that a much greater range Maori and we will be ensuring that a much greater range of Maori and we will be ensuring that a much greater range of teaching much greater range of teaching materials much greater range of teaching materials are much greater range of teaching materials are developed much greater range of teaching materials are developed so much greater range of teaching materials are developed so that materials are developed so that Maori materials are developed so that Maori have materials are developed so that Maori have parity materials are developed so that Maori have parity with materials are developed so that Maori have parity with the materials are developed so that Maori have parity with the NCEA Maori have parity with the NCEA qualification Maori have parity with the NCEA qualification and Maori have parity with the NCEA qualification and within Maori have parity with the NCEA qualification and within our qualification and within our schools. qualification and within our schools. How qualification and within our schools. How will qualification and within our schools. How will these qualification and within our schools. How will these changes qualification and within our schools. How will these changes make schools. How will these changes make NCEA schools. How will these changes make NCEA more schools. How will these changes make NCEA more affordable? schools. How will these changes make NCEA more affordable? Mr schools. How will these changes make NCEA more affordable? Mr Speaker, NCEA more affordable? Mr Speaker, I'm NCEA more affordable? Mr Speaker, I'm very NCEA more affordable? Mr Speaker, I'm very pleased NCEA more affordable? Mr Speaker, I'm very pleased to NCEA more affordable? Mr Speaker, I'm very pleased to say NCEA more affordable? Mr Speaker, I'm very pleased to say that I'm very pleased to say that families I'm very pleased to say that families of I'm very pleased to say that families of secondary I'm very pleased to say that families of secondary school families of secondary school students families of secondary school NCEA families of secondary school students will no families of secondary school students will no longer families of secondary school students will no longer have families of secondary school students will no longer have to families of secondary school students will no longer have to pay students will no longer have to pay foes students will no longer have to pay foes for students will no longer have to pay foes for NCEA students will no longer have to pay foes for NCEA and students will no longer have to pay foes for NCEA and New students will no longer have to pay foes for NCEA and New Zealand foes for NCEA and New Zealand scholarship. foes for NCEA and New Zealand scholarship. 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Why was 18,000 first home buyers in the last 18,000 first home buyers in the last 12 18,000 first home buyers in the last 12 months, 18,000 first home buyers in the last 12 months, can 18,000 first home buyers in the last 12 months, can he 18,000 first home buyers in the last 12 months, can he not 18,000 first home buyers in the last 12 months, can he not sell 18,000 first home buyers in the last 12 months, can he not sell a 18,000 first home buyers in the last 12 months, can he not sell a few 12 months, can he not sell a few dozen 12 months, can he not sell a few dozen KiwiBuild 12 months, can he not sell a few dozen KiwiBuild houses 12 months, can he not sell a few dozen KiwiBuild houses in 12 months, can he not sell a few dozen KiwiBuild houses in wanna, dozen KiwiBuild houses in wanna, Auckland dozen KiwiBuild houses in wanna, Auckland and dozen KiwiBuild houses in wanna, Auckland and Canterbury dozen KiwiBuild houses in wanna, Auckland and Canterbury to Auckland and Canterbury to first-home Auckland and Canterbury to first-home buyers? 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They are simply houses that are being built in the subsidised. They are simply houses that are being built in the Bottom that are being built in the Bottom 25% that are being built in the Bottom 25% of that are being built in the Bottom 25% of the that are being built in the Bottom 25% of the price that are being built in the Bottom 25% of the price range. that are being built in the Bottom 25% of the price range. One that are being built in the Bottom 25% of the price range. One of that are being built in the Bottom 25% of the price range. One of the 25% of the price range. One of the problems 25% of the price range. One of the problems that 25% of the price range. One of the problems that we 25% of the price range. One of the problems that we have, 25% of the price range. One of the problems that we have, Mr 25% of the price range. 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Does KiwiBuild continue the supply of affordable houses. Does KiwiBuild continue to the supply of affordable houses. Does KiwiBuild continue to have the supply of affordable houses. Does KiwiBuild continue to have a Does KiwiBuild continue to have a goal Does KiwiBuild continue to have a goal to Does KiwiBuild continue to have a goal to deliver Does KiwiBuild continue to have a goal to deliver 100,000 Does KiwiBuild continue to have a goal to deliver 100,000 houses Does KiwiBuild continue to have a goal to deliver 100,000 houses over goal to deliver 100,000 houses over 10 goal to deliver 100,000 houses over 10 years? goal to deliver 100,000 houses over 10 years? Mr goal to deliver 100,000 houses over 10 years? Mr Speaker, goal to deliver 100,000 houses over 10 years? Mr Speaker, we goal to deliver 100,000 houses over 10 years? Mr Speaker, we have goal to deliver 100,000 houses over 10 years? Mr Speaker, we have made 10 years? Mr Speaker, we have made it 10 years? 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We have made it clear that we are not going to have interim we are not going to have interim targets we are not going to have interim targets for we are not going to have interim targets for the we are not going to have interim targets for the programme, we are not going to have interim targets for the programme, but we are not going to have interim targets for the programme, but we targets for the programme, but we will targets for the programme, but we will continue targets for the programme, but we will continue to targets for the programme, but we will continue to be targets for the programme, but we will continue to be transparent will continue to be transparent about will continue to be transparent about our will continue to be transparent about our progress will continue to be transparent about our progress towards will continue to be transparent about our progress towards the about our progress towards the target about our progress towards the target of about our progress towards the target of building about our progress towards the target of building afford about our progress towards the target of building afford ail about our progress towards the target of building afford ail homes target of building afford ail homes for target of building afford ail homes for young target of building afford ail homes for young first target of building afford ail homes for young first home target of building afford ail homes for young first home buyers. target of building afford ail homes for young first home buyers. 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Businesses, currently there are more than 9,300 there are more than 9,300 businesses, there are more than 9,300 businesses, with there are more than 9,300 businesses, with around there are more than 9,300 businesses, with around 1400 there are more than 9,300 businesses, with around 1400 jitlets businesses, with around 1400 jitlets offering businesses, with around 1400 jitlets offering super businesses, with around 1400 jitlets offering super gold businesses, with around 1400 jitlets offering super gold discounts, businesses, with around 1400 jitlets offering super gold discounts, will offering super gold discounts, will be offering super gold discounts, will be able offering super gold discounts, will be able to offering super gold discounts, will be able to interact offering super gold discounts, will be able to interact with offering super gold discounts, will be able to interact with the offering super gold discounts, will be able to interact with the website be able to interact with the website better be able to interact with the website better and be able to interact with the website better and they be able to interact with the website better and they will be able to interact with the website better and they will also be able to interact with the website better and they will also be be able to interact with the website better and they will also be able be able to interact with the website better and they will also be able to better and they will also be able to provide better and they will also be able to provide standard better and they will also be able to provide standard promotions better and they will also be able to provide standard promotions and provide standard promotions and people provide standard promotions and people will provide standard promotions and people will finally provide standard promotions and people will finally be provide standard promotions and people will finally be able provide standard promotions and people will finally be able to provide standard promotions and people will finally be able to see people will finally be able to see where people will finally be able to see where they people will finally be able to see where they can people will finally be able to see where they can get people will finally be able to see where they can get their people will finally be able to see where they can get their discounts. where they can get their discounts. How where they can get their discounts. How will where they can get their discounts. How will Super where they can get their discounts. How will Super Gold where they can get their discounts. How will Super Gold card where they can get their discounts. How will Super Gold card changes How will Super Gold card changes help How will Super Gold card changes help older How will Super Gold card changes help older New How will Super Gold card changes help older New Zealanders? How will Super Gold card changes help older New Zealanders? Mr help older New Zealanders? Mr Speaker, help older New Zealanders? Mr Speaker, a help older New Zealanders? Mr Speaker, a key help older New Zealanders? Mr Speaker, a key objective. help older New Zealanders? Mr Speaker, a key objective. Order. Speaker, a key objective. Order. Now, Speaker, a key objective. Order. Now, the Speaker, a key objective. Order. Now, the member Speaker, a key objective. Order. Now, the member will Speaker, a key objective. Order. Now, the member will stand, Speaker, a key objective. Order. Now, the member will stand, withdraw Now, the member will stand, withdraw and Now, the member will stand, withdraw and apologise. Now, the member will stand, withdraw and apologise. I Now, the member will stand, withdraw and apologise. I think Now, the member will stand, withdraw and apologise. I think there Now, the member will stand, withdraw and apologise. I think there has and apologise. I think there has been and apologise. I think there has been enough and apologise. I think there has been enough ageist and apologise. I think there has been enough ageist comments and apologise. I think there has been enough ageist comments made and apologise. I think there has been enough ageist comments made in been enough ageist comments made in his been enough ageist comments made in his direction been enough ageist comments made in his direction for been enough ageist comments made in his direction for him been enough ageist comments made in his direction for him to been enough ageist comments made in his direction for him to start been enough ageist comments made in his direction for him to start doing his direction for him to start doing it his direction for him to start doing it I his direction for him to start doing it I think his direction for him to start doing it I think is his direction for him to start doing it I think is a his direction for him to start doing it I think is a very his direction for him to start doing it I think is a very poor his direction for him to start doing it I think is a very poor example. his direction for him to start doing it I think is a very poor example. I it I think is a very poor example. I withdraw it I think is a very poor example. I withdraw and it I think is a very poor example. I withdraw and apologise. it I think is a very poor example. I withdraw and apologise. Thank it I think is a very poor example. I withdraw and apologise. Thank you. withdraw and apologise. Thank you. Mr withdraw and apologise. Thank you. Mr Speaker, withdraw and apologise. Thank you. Mr Speaker, a withdraw and apologise. Thank you. Mr Speaker, a key withdraw and apologise. Thank you. Mr Speaker, a key objective withdraw and apologise. Thank you. Mr Speaker, a key objective of withdraw and apologise. Thank you. Mr Speaker, a key objective of the Mr Speaker, a key objective of the changes Mr Speaker, a key objective of the changes to Mr Speaker, a key objective of the changes to help Mr Speaker, a key objective of the changes to help seniors Mr Speaker, a key objective of the changes to help seniors on Mr Speaker, a key objective of the changes to help seniors on fixed changes to help seniors on fixed incomes changes to help seniors on fixed incomes to changes to help seniors on fixed incomes to stretch changes to help seniors on fixed incomes to stretch their changes to help seniors on fixed incomes to stretch their dollar incomes to stretch their dollar further. incomes to stretch their dollar further. 48 incomes to stretch their dollar further. 48 % incomes to stretch their dollar further. 48 % of incomes to stretch their dollar further. 48 % of our incomes to stretch their dollar further. 48 % of our seniors incomes to stretch their dollar further. 48 % of our seniors have further. 48 % of our seniors have less further. 48 % of our seniors have less than further. 48 % of our seniors have less than $100 further. 48 % of our seniors have less than $100 a further. 48 % of our seniors have less than $100 a week further. 48 % of our seniors have less than $100 a week from further. 48 % of our seniors have less than $100 a week from sources less than $100 a week from sources outside less than $100 a week from sources outside of less than $100 a week from sources outside of superannuation. less than $100 a week from sources outside of superannuation. 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But it will also help businesses connect to this also help businesses connect to this very also help businesses connect to this very large also help businesses connect to this very large consumer also help businesses connect to this very large consumer demographic also help businesses connect to this very large consumer demographic and very large consumer demographic and hopefully very large consumer demographic and hopefully provide very large consumer demographic and hopefully provide more very large consumer demographic and hopefully provide more discounts. hopefully provide more discounts. Question hopefully provide more discounts. Question No. hopefully provide more discounts. Question No. 7, hopefully provide more discounts. Question No. 7, the hopefully provide more discounts. Question No. 7, the Hon hopefully provide more discounts. Question No. 7, the Hon Paul Question No. 7, the Hon Paul Goldsmith. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Transport: My question is to the Minister of Transport: Does My question is to the Minister of Transport: Does he My question is to the Minister of Transport: Does he stand My question is to the Minister of Transport: Does he stand by My question is to the Minister of Transport: Does he stand by all My question is to the Minister of Transport: Does he stand by all his Transport: Does he stand by all his statements, Transport: Does he stand by all his statements, policies, Transport: Does he stand by all his statements, policies, and Transport: Does he stand by all his statements, policies, and actions Transport: Does he stand by all his statements, policies, and actions on statements, policies, and actions on transport? The The Hon The Hon Twyford The Hon Twyford time The Hon Twyford time. The Hon Twyford time. 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How can he say as he did yesterday: How can he say as he did yesterday: "The How can he say as he did yesterday: "The government How can he say as he did yesterday: "The government is How can he say as he did yesterday: "The government is taking How can he say as he did yesterday: "The government is taking a How can he say as he did yesterday: "The government is taking a balanced "The government is taking a balanced approach "The government is taking a balanced approach to "The government is taking a balanced approach to transport", "The government is taking a balanced approach to transport", when "The government is taking a balanced approach to transport", when his approach to transport", when his associate approach to transport", when his associate minister approach to transport", when his associate minister refers approach to transport", when his associate minister refers to approach to transport", when his associate minister refers to car associate minister refers to car fascists associate minister refers to car fascists and associate minister refers to car fascists and he associate minister refers to car fascists and he has associate minister refers to car fascists and he has said associate minister refers to car fascists and he has said his associate minister refers to car fascists and he has said his core fascists and he has said his core objective fascists and he has said his core objective is fascists and he has said his core objective is to fascists and he has said his core objective is to get fascists and he has said his core objective is to get people fascists and he has said his core objective is to get people out fascists and he has said his core objective is to get people out of objective is to get people out of single objective is to get people out of single occupant objective is to get people out of single occupant vehicles objective is to get people out of single occupant vehicles and objective is to get people out of single occupant vehicles and into single occupant vehicles and into public single occupant vehicles and into public transport, single occupant vehicles and into public transport, walking single occupant vehicles and into public transport, walking and public transport, walking and cycling, public transport, walking and cycling, rather public transport, walking and cycling, rather than public transport, walking and cycling, rather than simply public transport, walking and cycling, rather than simply to cycling, rather than simply to reduce cycling, rather than simply to reduce congestion cycling, rather than simply to reduce congestion for cycling, rather than simply to reduce congestion for motorists? reduce congestion for motorists? Well, reduce congestion for motorists? Well, I reduce congestion for motorists? Well, I reject reduce congestion for motorists? Well, I reject the reduce congestion for motorists? Well, I reject the premise reduce congestion for motorists? Well, I reject the premise of reduce congestion for motorists? Well, I reject the premise of the Well, I reject the premise of the member's Well, I reject the premise of the member's question. Well, I reject the premise of the member's question. The Well, I reject the premise of the member's question. The associate member's question. The associate minister member's question. The associate minister did member's question. The associate minister did not member's question. The associate minister did not describe member's question. The associate minister did not describe motorists minister did not describe motorists as minister did not describe motorists as car minister did not describe motorists as car fascists minister did not describe motorists as car fascists at minister did not describe motorists as car fascists at all. minister did not describe motorists as car fascists at all. She minister did not describe motorists as car fascists at all. She didn't. as car fascists at all. She didn't. She as car fascists at all. She didn't. She most as car fascists at all. She didn't. She most certainly as car fascists at all. She didn't. She most certainly did as car fascists at all. She didn't. She most certainly did not. as car fascists at all. She didn't. She most certainly did not. I as car fascists at all. She didn't. She most certainly did not. I never She most certainly did not. I never referred She most certainly did not. I never referred to She most certainly did not. I never referred to motorists She most certainly did not. I never referred to motorists were She most certainly did not. I never referred to motorists were car referred to motorists were car fascists. referred to motorists were car fascists. I referred to motorists were car fascists. I said referred to motorists were car fascists. I said she referred to motorists were car fascists. I said she referred referred to motorists were car fascists. I said she referred to referred to motorists were car fascists. I said she referred to car fascists. I said she referred to car fascists. fascists. I said she referred to car fascists. What fascists. I said she referred to car fascists. What is fascists. I said she referred to car fascists. What is he fascists. I said she referred to car fascists. What is he saying? fascists. I said she referred to car fascists. What is he saying? As fascists. I said she referred to car fascists. What is he saying? As I fascists. What is he saying? 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But the point as well chosen as they might have been. But the point she as well chosen as they might have been. But the point she was been. But the point she was making... making... <LAUGHTER> <LAUGHTER> <LAUGHTER> ..and <LAUGHTER> ..and the <LAUGHTER> ..and the point <LAUGHTER> ..and the point I <LAUGHTER> ..and the point I will <LAUGHTER> ..and the point I will make <LAUGHTER> ..and the point I will make to <LAUGHTER> ..and the point I will make to the ..and the point I will make to the member ..and the point I will make to the member is ..and the point I will make to the member is that ..and the point I will make to the member is that we ..and the point I will make to the member is that we do ..and the point I will make to the member is that we do have ..and the point I will make to the member is that we do have a ..and the point I will make to the member is that we do have a balanced member is that we do have a balanced transport member is that we do have a balanced transport policy member is that we do have a balanced transport policy because member is that we do have a balanced transport policy because our transport policy because our government transport policy because our government understands transport policy because our government understands that transport policy because our government understands that cities government understands that cities of government understands that cities of any government understands that cities of any scale government understands that cities of any scale must government understands that cities of any scale must have, government understands that cities of any scale must have, alongside of any scale must have, alongside their of any scale must have, alongside their roads of any scale must have, alongside their roads and of any scale must have, alongside their roads and motorways, of any scale must have, alongside their roads and motorways, decent their roads and motorways, decent public their roads and motorways, decent public transport their roads and motorways, decent public transport and their roads and motorways, decent public transport and walking their roads and motorways, decent public transport and walking and public transport and walking and cycling. public transport and walking and cycling. 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Supplementary toll of deaths and serious injuries. Supplementary question, toll of deaths and serious injuries. Supplementary question, the Supplementary question, the honourable Supplementary question, the honourable Simon Supplementary question, the honourable Simon Bridges. Supplementary question, the honourable Simon Bridges. Can Supplementary question, the honourable Simon Bridges. Can the honourable Simon Bridges. Can the minister honourable Simon Bridges. Can the minister name honourable Simon Bridges. Can the minister name one honourable Simon Bridges. Can the minister name one genuinely honourable Simon Bridges. Can the minister name one genuinely new honourable Simon Bridges. Can the minister name one genuinely new road minister name one genuinely new road his minister name one genuinely new road his government minister name one genuinely new road his government is minister name one genuinely new road his government is starting minister name one genuinely new road his government is starting in minister name one genuinely new road his government is starting in I minister name one genuinely new road his government is starting in I can his government is starting in I can name his government is starting in I can name a his government is starting in I can name a number, his government is starting in I can name a number, but his government is starting in I can name a number, but we his government is starting in I can name a number, but we have his government is starting in I can name a number, but we have started name a number, but we have started work name a number, but we have started work on... name a number, but we have started work on... <INTERRUPTION> work on... <INTERRUPTION> Mount work on... <INTERRUPTION> Mount Messenger work on... <INTERRUPTION> Mount Messenger has work on... <INTERRUPTION> Mount Messenger has happened. work on... <INTERRUPTION> Mount Messenger has happened. 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Did that Minister inherit a list The Hon Winston Peters. Did that Minister inherit a list of The Hon Winston Peters. 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Question projects that carry 4% of vehicle journeys. Question No. projects that carry 4% of vehicle journeys. Question No. 8, projects that carry 4% of vehicle journeys. Question No. 8, the projects that carry 4% of vehicle journeys. Question No. 8, the Hon journeys. Question No. 8, the Hon Michael journeys. Question No. 8, the Hon Michael Woodhouse. 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Well, will he commit to DHBs performing more elective DHBs performing more elective surgery DHBs performing more elective surgery this DHBs performing more elective surgery this year DHBs performing more elective surgery this year than DHBs performing more elective surgery this year than last DHBs performing more elective surgery this year than last and, DHBs performing more elective surgery this year than last and, if surgery this year than last and, if so, surgery this year than last and, if so, how surgery this year than last and, if so, how will surgery this year than last and, if so, how will the surgery this year than last and, if so, how will the public surgery this year than last and, if so, how will the public be surgery this year than last and, if so, how will the public be able surgery this year than last and, if so, how will the public be able to so, how will the public be able to tell, so, how will the public be able to tell, if so, how will the public be able to tell, if not so, how will the public be able to tell, if not by so, how will the public be able to tell, if not by the so, how will the public be able to tell, if not by the ministry's tell, if not by the ministry's statistics? tell, if not by the ministry's statistics? Mr tell, if not by the ministry's statistics? Mr Speaker, tell, if not by the ministry's statistics? Mr Speaker, the tell, if not by the ministry's statistics? Mr Speaker, the year tell, if not by the ministry's statistics? Mr Speaker, the year is statistics? Mr Speaker, the year is not statistics? Mr Speaker, the year is not over statistics? Mr Speaker, the year is not over yet statistics? Mr Speaker, the year is not over yet and statistics? Mr Speaker, the year is not over yet and I statistics? Mr Speaker, the year is not over yet and I expect statistics? Mr Speaker, the year is not over yet and I expect that statistics? Mr Speaker, the year is not over yet and I expect that DHBs not over yet and I expect that DHBs will not over yet and I expect that DHBs will be not over yet and I expect that DHBs will be working not over yet and I expect that DHBs will be working very not over yet and I expect that DHBs will be working very hard not over yet and I expect that DHBs will be working very hard to not over yet and I expect that DHBs will be working very hard to deliver will be working very hard to deliver on will be working very hard to deliver on the will be working very hard to deliver on the contracted will be working very hard to deliver on the contracted volumes. will be working very hard to deliver on the contracted volumes. Question on the contracted volumes. Question No. on the contracted volumes. Question No. 9, on the contracted volumes. Question No. 9, Virginia on the contracted volumes. Question No. 9, Virginia Andersen. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister responsible My question is to the Minister responsible for My question is to the Minister responsible for Pike My question is to the Minister responsible for Pike River My question is to the Minister responsible for Pike River Re-entry: responsible for Pike River Re-entry: What responsible for Pike River Re-entry: What recent responsible for Pike River Re-entry: What recent progress, responsible for Pike River Re-entry: What recent progress, if responsible for Pike River Re-entry: What recent progress, if any, responsible for Pike River Re-entry: What recent progress, if any, has What recent progress, if any, has been What recent progress, if any, has been made What recent progress, if any, has been made on What recent progress, if any, has been made on Pike What recent progress, if any, has been made on Pike River What recent progress, if any, has been made on Pike River recovery? The The Hon The Hon Andrew The Hon Andrew Little. The Hon Andrew Little. Mr The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, I The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, I am The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, I am pleased The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, I am pleased to The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, I am pleased to report The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, I am pleased to report to The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, I am pleased to report to this The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, I am pleased to report to this House am pleased to report to this House that am pleased to report to this House that on am pleased to report to this House that on Tuesday, am pleased to report to this House that on Tuesday, 21 am pleased to report to this House that on Tuesday, 21 May, am pleased to report to this House that on Tuesday, 21 May, the am pleased to report to this House that on Tuesday, 21 May, the Pike that on Tuesday, 21 May, the Pike recovery that on Tuesday, 21 May, the Pike recovery agency that on Tuesday, 21 May, the Pike recovery agency breached that on Tuesday, 21 May, the Pike recovery agency breached the that on Tuesday, 21 May, the Pike recovery agency breached the 30 recovery agency breached the 30 river recovery agency breached the 30 river seal recovery agency breached the 30 river seal and recovery agency breached the 30 river seal and re-entered recovery agency breached the 30 river seal and re-entered the recovery agency breached the 30 river seal and re-entered the drift. river seal and re-entered the drift. In river seal and re-entered the drift. In the river seal and re-entered the drift. In the presence river seal and re-entered the drift. In the presence of river seal and re-entered the drift. In the presence of family river seal and re-entered the drift. In the presence of family members, In the presence of family members, experts, In the presence of family members, experts, Pike In the presence of family members, experts, Pike River In the presence of family members, experts, Pike River recovery In the presence of family members, experts, Pike River recovery agency experts, Pike River recovery agency removed experts, Pike River recovery agency removed the experts, Pike River recovery agency removed the final experts, Pike River recovery agency removed the final block experts, Pike River recovery agency removed the final block of experts, Pike River recovery agency removed the final block of the removed the final block of the 30-metre removed the final block of the 30-metre seal removed the final block of the 30-metre seal which removed the final block of the 30-metre seal which prevented removed the final block of the 30-metre seal which prevented access 30-metre seal which prevented access and 30-metre seal which prevented access and walked 30-metre seal which prevented access and walked through 30-metre seal which prevented access and walked through two 30-metre seal which prevented access and walked through two air 30-metre seal which prevented access and walked through two air lock and walked through two air lock doctors and walked through two air lock doctors successfully and walked through two air lock doctors successfully re-entering and walked through two air lock doctors successfully re-entering the doctors successfully re-entering the drift. doctors successfully re-entering the drift. After doctors successfully re-entering the drift. After eight doctors successfully re-entering the drift. After eight years doctors successfully re-entering the drift. After eight years when doctors successfully re-entering the drift. After eight years when more drift. After eight years when more than drift. After eight years when more than 29 drift. After eight years when more than 29 men drift. After eight years when more than 29 men went drift. After eight years when more than 29 men went through drift. After eight years when more than 29 men went through that drift. After eight years when more than 29 men went through that end than 29 men went through that end tract than 29 men went through that end tract to than 29 men went through that end tract to work than 29 men went through that end tract to work at than 29 men went through that end tract to work at the than 29 men went through that end tract to work at the Pike than 29 men went through that end tract to work at the Pike River than 29 men went through that end tract to work at the Pike River coal tract to work at the Pike River coal mine tract to work at the Pike River coal mine and tract to work at the Pike River coal mine and never tract to work at the Pike River coal mine and never came tract to work at the Pike River coal mine and never came home, tract to work at the Pike River coal mine and never came home, the mine and never came home, the proposal mine and never came home, the proposal to mine and never came home, the proposal to re-enter mine and never came home, the proposal to re-enter the mine and never came home, the proposal to re-enter the mine mine and never came home, the proposal to re-enter the mine drift proposal to re-enter the mine drift has proposal to re-enter the mine drift has been proposal to re-enter the mine drift has been honoured. proposal to re-enter the mine drift has been honoured. <APPLAUSE> has been honoured. <APPLAUSE> Order. has been honoured. <APPLAUSE> Order. 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In fulfilling the promise to do everything the promise to do everything possible the promise to do everything possible to the promise to do everything possible to safely the promise to do everything possible to safely recover the promise to do everything possible to safely recover the possible to safely recover the drift, possible to safely recover the drift, is possible to safely recover the drift, is an possible to safely recover the drift, is an act possible to safely recover the drift, is an act of possible to safely recover the drift, is an act of justice possible to safely recover the drift, is an act of justice for drift, is an act of justice for families drift, is an act of justice for families who drift, is an act of justice for families who have drift, is an act of justice for families who have waited drift, is an act of justice for families who have waited a drift, is an act of justice for families who have waited a long families who have waited a long time. families who have waited a long time. Over families who have waited a long time. Over the families who have waited a long time. Over the next families who have waited a long time. Over the next few families who have waited a long time. Over the next few days, families who have waited a long time. Over the next few days, the time. Over the next few days, the agency time. Over the next few days, the agency will time. Over the next few days, the agency will continue time. Over the next few days, the agency will continue to time. Over the next few days, the agency will continue to advance time. Over the next few days, the agency will continue to advance up agency will continue to advance up the agency will continue to advance up the drift, agency will continue to advance up the drift, assessing agency will continue to advance up the drift, assessing the agency will continue to advance up the drift, assessing the state agency will continue to advance up the drift, assessing the state of the drift, assessing the state of the the drift, assessing the state of the drift, the drift, assessing the state of the drift, for the drift, assessing the state of the drift, for potential the drift, assessing the state of the drift, for potential hazards the drift, assessing the state of the drift, for potential hazards and the drift, for potential hazards and in the drift, for potential hazards and in the the drift, for potential hazards and in the coming the drift, for potential hazards and in the coming months, the drift, for potential hazards and in the coming months, a the drift, for potential hazards and in the coming months, a second in the coming months, a second forensically in the coming months, a second forensically mining in the coming months, a second forensically mining team in the coming months, a second forensically mining team will forensically mining team will examine forensically mining team will examine and forensically mining team will examine and remove forensically mining team will examine and remove any forensically mining team will examine and remove any evident forensically mining team will examine and remove any evident shall examine and remove any evident shall material. examine and remove any evident shall material. There examine and remove any evident shall material. There is examine and remove any evident shall material. There is still examine and remove any evident shall material. There is still a examine and remove any evident shall material. There is still a lot examine and remove any evident shall material. There is still a lot to material. There is still a lot to do, material. There is still a lot to do, but material. There is still a lot to do, but we material. There is still a lot to do, but we are material. There is still a lot to do, but we are committed material. There is still a lot to do, but we are committed to material. There is still a lot to do, but we are committed to finding do, but we are committed to finding out do, but we are committed to finding out what do, but we are committed to finding out what happened do, but we are committed to finding out what happened at do, but we are committed to finding out what happened at Pike do, but we are committed to finding out what happened at Pike River. do, but we are committed to finding out what happened at Pike River. As out what happened at Pike River. As I out what happened at Pike River. As I have out what happened at Pike River. As I have said out what happened at Pike River. As I have said before, out what happened at Pike River. As I have said before, Mr out what happened at Pike River. As I have said before, Mr Speaker, I have said before, Mr Speaker, safety I have said before, Mr Speaker, safety has I have said before, Mr Speaker, safety has been I have said before, Mr Speaker, safety has been and I have said before, Mr Speaker, safety has been and always I have said before, Mr Speaker, safety has been and always will I have said before, Mr Speaker, safety has been and always will be safety has been and always will be the safety has been and always will be the families safety has been and always will be the families and safety has been and always will be the families and the safety has been and always will be the families and the government's the families and the government's bottom the families and the government's bottom line the families and the government's bottom line for the families and the government's bottom line for the the families and the government's bottom line for the recovery the families and the government's bottom line for the recovery effort. bottom line for the recovery effort. What bottom line for the recovery effort. What response bottom line for the recovery effort. What response has bottom line for the recovery effort. What response has the bottom line for the recovery effort. What response has the minister bottom line for the recovery effort. What response has the minister seen What response has the minister seen from What response has the minister seen from Pike What response has the minister seen from Pike River What response has the minister seen from Pike River families? What response has the minister seen from Pike River families? Mr from Pike River families? Mr Speaker, from Pike River families? Mr Speaker, the from Pike River families? Mr Speaker, the families from Pike River families? Mr Speaker, the families have from Pike River families? Mr Speaker, the families have been Speaker, the families have been extraordinarily Speaker, the families have been extraordinarily appreciative Speaker, the families have been extraordinarily appreciative of Speaker, the families have been extraordinarily appreciative of the extraordinarily appreciative of the agency's extraordinarily appreciative of the agency's hard extraordinarily appreciative of the agency's hard work extraordinarily appreciative of the agency's hard work and extraordinarily appreciative of the agency's hard work and commitment extraordinarily appreciative of the agency's hard work and commitment to agency's hard work and commitment to the agency's hard work and commitment to the recovery agency's hard work and commitment to the recovery effort. agency's hard work and commitment to the recovery effort. However, agency's hard work and commitment to the recovery effort. However, it agency's hard work and commitment to the recovery effort. However, it is the recovery effort. However, it is fair the recovery effort. However, it is fair to the recovery effort. However, it is fair to say the recovery effort. However, it is fair to say that the recovery effort. However, it is fair to say that re-entry the recovery effort. However, it is fair to say that re-entry would fair to say that re-entry would never fair to say that re-entry would never have fair to say that re-entry would never have been fair to say that re-entry would never have been possible fair to say that re-entry would never have been possible without fair to say that re-entry would never have been possible without the never have been possible without the determination, never have been possible without the determination, patience never have been possible without the determination, patience and never have been possible without the determination, patience and support determination, patience and support of determination, patience and support of the determination, patience and support of the Pike determination, patience and support of the Pike River determination, patience and support of the Pike River families determination, patience and support of the Pike River families the of the Pike River families the family of the Pike River families the family reference of the Pike River families the family reference group. of the Pike River families the family reference group. I of the Pike River families the family reference group. I would of the Pike River families the family reference group. I would like family reference group. I would like to family reference group. I would like to thank family reference group. I would like to thank all family reference group. I would like to thank all of family reference group. I would like to thank all of those family reference group. I would like to thank all of those members family reference group. I would like to thank all of those members and to thank all of those members and the to thank all of those members and the supporters to thank all of those members and the supporters of to thank all of those members and the supporters of the to thank all of those members and the supporters of the reference the supporters of the reference group the supporters of the reference group and, the supporters of the reference group and, in the supporters of the reference group and, in particular, the supporters of the reference group and, in particular, Anna group and, in particular, Anna Osborne group and, in particular, Anna Osborne and group and, in particular, Anna Osborne and Sonya group and, in particular, Anna Osborne and Sonya RockHouse group and, in particular, Anna Osborne and Sonya RockHouse for Osborne and Sonya RockHouse for their Osborne and Sonya RockHouse for their tirele Osborne and Sonya RockHouse for their tirele work. Osborne and Sonya RockHouse for their tirele work. 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Tuesday's milestone belongs to those familiar milestone belongs to those familiar in milestone belongs to those familiar in the milestone belongs to those familiar in the memory milestone belongs to those familiar in the memory of milestone belongs to those familiar in the memory of their milestone belongs to those familiar in the memory of their lost milestone belongs to those familiar in the memory of their lost ones milestone belongs to those familiar in the memory of their lost ones and in the memory of their lost ones and it in the memory of their lost ones and it also in the memory of their lost ones and it also belongs in the memory of their lost ones and it also belongs to in the memory of their lost ones and it also belongs to all in the memory of their lost ones and it also belongs to all New it also belongs to all New Zealanders it also belongs to all New Zealanders who it also belongs to all New Zealanders who knows it also belongs to all New Zealanders who knows that it also belongs to all New Zealanders who knows that going it also belongs to all New Zealanders who knows that going home Zealanders who knows that going home for Zealanders who knows that going home for your Zealanders who knows that going home for your loved Zealanders who knows that going home for your loved ones Zealanders who knows that going home for your loved ones is Zealanders who knows that going home for your loved ones is the Zealanders who knows that going home for your loved ones is the least Zealanders who knows that going home for your loved ones is the least you for your loved ones is the least you should for your loved ones is the least you should expect for your loved ones is the least you should expect after for your loved ones is the least you should expect after a for your loved ones is the least you should expect after a day's for your loved ones is the least you should expect after a day's work. should expect after a day's work. Question should expect after a day's work. Question No. should expect after a day's work. Question No. 10, should expect after a day's work. Question No. 10, Simon should expect after a day's work. Question No. 10, Simon O'Connor. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Housing My question is to the Minister of Housing and My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: Is My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: Is he Housing and Urban Development: Is he confident Housing and Urban Development: Is he confident the Housing and Urban Development: Is he confident the formula Housing and Urban Development: Is he confident the formula provided Housing and Urban Development: Is he confident the formula provided in confident the formula provided in the confident the formula provided in the regulation confident the formula provided in the regulation for confident the formula provided in the regulation for the confident the formula provided in the regulation for the heating the regulation for the heating capacity the regulation for the heating capacity of the regulation for the heating capacity of qualifying the regulation for the heating capacity of qualifying heaters the regulation for the heating capacity of qualifying heaters in capacity of qualifying heaters in the capacity of qualifying heaters in the main capacity of qualifying heaters in the main living capacity of qualifying heaters in the main living room, capacity of qualifying heaters in the main living room, as capacity of qualifying heaters in the main living room, as published the main living room, as published in the main living room, as published in the the main living room, as published in the Residential the main living room, as published in the Residential Tenancies in the Residential Tenancies (Healthy in the Residential Tenancies (Healthy Homes in the Residential Tenancies (Healthy Homes Standards) (Healthy Homes Standards) Regulations (Healthy Homes Standards) Regulations 2019, (Healthy Homes Standards) Regulations 2019, is (Healthy Homes Standards) Regulations 2019, is suitable (Healthy Homes Standards) Regulations 2019, is suitable for Regulations 2019, is suitable for New Regulations 2019, is suitable for New Zealand Regulations 2019, is suitable for New Zealand landlords Regulations 2019, is suitable for New Zealand landlords to Regulations 2019, is suitable for New Zealand landlords to understand? The The Hon The Hon Phil The Hon Phil Twyford. The Hon Phil Twyford. The The Hon Phil Twyford. The heating The Hon Phil Twyford. The heating standard The Hon Phil Twyford. The heating standard requires The Hon Phil Twyford. The heating standard requires landlords The Hon Phil Twyford. The heating standard requires landlords to standard requires landlords to provide standard requires landlords to provide a standard requires landlords to provide a fixed standard requires landlords to provide a fixed heating standard requires landlords to provide a fixed heating device provide a fixed heating device capable provide a fixed heating device capable of provide a fixed heating device capable of achieving provide a fixed heating device capable of achieving a provide a fixed heating device capable of achieving a minimum capable of achieving a minimum temperature capable of achieving a minimum temperature of capable of achieving a minimum temperature of at capable of achieving a minimum temperature of at least capable of achieving a minimum temperature of at least 18 capable of achieving a minimum temperature of at least 18 degrees temperature of at least 18 degrees Celsius. temperature of at least 18 degrees Celsius. I temperature of at least 18 degrees Celsius. I am temperature of at least 18 degrees Celsius. I am confident, temperature of at least 18 degrees Celsius. I am confident, because Celsius. I am confident, because Celsius. I am confident, because Celsius. I am confident, because these standards Celsius. I am confident, because these standards were Celsius. I am confident, because these standards were widely these standards were widely consulted these standards were widely consulted with these standards were widely consulted with landlords these standards were widely consulted with landlords and these standards were widely consulted with landlords and they consulted with landlords and they were, consulted with landlords and they were, in consulted with landlords and they were, in fact, consulted with landlords and they were, in fact, the consulted with landlords and they were, in fact, the landlords' were, in fact, the landlords' preferred were, in fact, the landlords' preferred option. were, in fact, the landlords' preferred option. Admittedly, were, in fact, the landlords' preferred option. Admittedly, there preferred option. Admittedly, there are preferred option. Admittedly, there are some preferred option. Admittedly, there are some people preferred option. Admittedly, there are some people who preferred option. Admittedly, there are some people who do preferred option. Admittedly, there are some people who do not preferred option. Admittedly, there are some people who do not want preferred option. Admittedly, there are some people who do not want to are some people who do not want to fix are some people who do not want to fix the are some people who do not want to fix the problem are some people who do not want to fix the problem of are some people who do not want to fix the problem of cold, are some people who do not want to fix the problem of cold, damp are some people who do not want to fix the problem of cold, damp homes fix the problem of cold, damp homes costing fix the problem of cold, damp homes costing the fix the problem of cold, damp homes costing the hospitalisation fix the problem of cold, damp homes costing the hospitalisation of costing the hospitalisation of children, costing the hospitalisation of children, but costing the hospitalisation of children, but we costing the hospitalisation of children, but we decided costing the hospitalisation of children, but we decided this costing the hospitalisation of children, but we decided this could children, but we decided this could not children, but we decided this could not continue. children, but we decided this could not continue. 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I am also confident because the ministry receives $15 because the ministry receives $15 million because the ministry receives $15 million in because the ministry receives $15 million in Budget because the ministry receives $15 million in Budget 2018 because the ministry receives $15 million in Budget 2018 to because the ministry receives $15 million in Budget 2018 to help million in Budget 2018 to help landlords million in Budget 2018 to help landlords comply million in Budget 2018 to help landlords comply and million in Budget 2018 to help landlords comply and this million in Budget 2018 to help landlords comply and this will million in Budget 2018 to help landlords comply and this will fund landlords comply and this will fund the landlords comply and this will fund the development landlords comply and this will fund the development of landlords comply and this will fund the development of an landlords comply and this will fund the development of an online landlords comply and this will fund the development of an online tool the development of an online tool where the development of an online tool where landlords the development of an online tool where landlords can the development of an online tool where landlords can input the development of an online tool where landlords can input the where landlords can input the developments where landlords can input the developments of where landlords can input the developments of their where landlords can input the developments of their property where landlords can input the developments of their property and developments of their property and print developments of their property and print out developments of their property and print out the developments of their property and print out the details developments of their property and print out the details of developments of their property and print out the details of the developments of their property and print out the details of the type developments of their property and print out the details of the type of print out the details of the type of heat print out the details of the type of heat pump print out the details of the type of heat pump or print out the details of the type of heat pump or heater print out the details of the type of heat pump or heater required. print out the details of the type of heat pump or heater required. It heat pump or heater required. It will heat pump or heater required. It will also heat pump or heater required. It will also cover heat pump or heater required. It will also cover the heat pump or heater required. It will also cover the support heat pump or heater required. It will also cover the support for will also cover the support for landlords will also cover the support for landlords through will also cover the support for landlords through advice will also cover the support for landlords through advice and will also cover the support for landlords through advice and the landlords through advice and the development landlords through advice and the development of landlords through advice and the development of guidance landlords through advice and the development of guidance material. development of guidance material. Landlords development of guidance material. Landlords also development of guidance material. Landlords also have development of guidance material. Landlords also have two development of guidance material. Landlords also have two years development of guidance material. Landlords also have two years to development of guidance material. Landlords also have two years to 1 Landlords also have two years to 1 July, Landlords also have two years to 1 July, 2021 Landlords also have two years to 1 July, 2021 to Landlords also have two years to 1 July, 2021 to consider Landlords also have two years to 1 July, 2021 to consider this Landlords also have two years to 1 July, 2021 to consider this material July, 2021 to consider this material to July, 2021 to consider this material to ask July, 2021 to consider this material to ask questions July, 2021 to consider this material to ask questions and July, 2021 to consider this material to ask questions and ensure July, 2021 to consider this material to ask questions and ensure that to ask questions and ensure that their to ask questions and ensure that their properties to ask questions and ensure that their properties comply to ask questions and ensure that their properties comply within to ask questions and ensure that their properties comply within 90 their properties comply within 90 days their properties comply within 90 days of their properties comply within 90 days of any their properties comply within 90 days of any new their properties comply within 90 days of any new tenancy. days of any new tenancy. Supplementary days of any new tenancy. Supplementary question. days of any new tenancy. Supplementary question. How days of any new tenancy. Supplementary question. How many Supplementary question. How many variables Supplementary question. How many variables will Supplementary question. How many variables will landlords Supplementary question. How many variables will landlords need Supplementary question. How many variables will landlords need to variables will landlords need to know variables will landlords need to know or variables will landlords need to know or measure variables will landlords need to know or measure to variables will landlords need to know or measure to make variables will landlords need to know or measure to make this know or measure to make this calculation know or measure to make this calculation using know or measure to make this calculation using the know or measure to make this calculation using the calculator calculation using the calculator that calculation using the calculator that he calculation using the calculator that he refers calculation using the calculator that he refers to? calculation using the calculator that he refers to? Well, calculation using the calculator that he refers to? Well, the calculation using the calculator that he refers to? Well, the online that he refers to? Well, the online tool that he refers to? Well, the online tool will that he refers to? Well, the online tool will require that he refers to? Well, the online tool will require landlords that he refers to? Well, the online tool will require landlords to that he refers to? 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We describe as "housing-sensitive" hospitalisations. We cannot describe as "housing-sensitive" hospitalisations. We cannot continue hospitalisations. We cannot continue to hospitalisations. We cannot continue to tolerate hospitalisations. We cannot continue to tolerate this. hospitalisations. We cannot continue to tolerate this. The hospitalisations. We cannot continue to tolerate this. The World hospitalisations. We cannot continue to tolerate this. The World Health to tolerate this. The World Health Organization to tolerate this. The World Health Organization recommends to tolerate this. The World Health Organization recommends a to tolerate this. 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Does he agree with the criticism that this is an attack the criticism that this is an attack on the criticism that this is an attack on landlords? the criticism that this is an attack on landlords? No, the criticism that this is an attack on landlords? No, I the criticism that this is an attack on landlords? No, I do the criticism that this is an attack on landlords? No, I do not the criticism that this is an attack on landlords? No, I do not agree on landlords? No, I do not agree with on landlords? No, I do not agree with that on landlords? No, I do not agree with that criticism. on landlords? No, I do not agree with that criticism. We on landlords? No, I do not agree with that criticism. We are on landlords? No, I do not agree with that criticism. We are lifting with that criticism. We are lifting standards with that criticism. We are lifting standards so with that criticism. We are lifting standards so that with that criticism. 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The The Hon The Hon Stuart The Hon Stuart Nash. The Hon Stuart Nash. Mr The Hon Stuart Nash. Mr Speaker, The Hon Stuart Nash. Mr Speaker, yes. The Hon Stuart Nash. Mr Speaker, yes. Supplementary. The Hon Stuart Nash. Mr Speaker, yes. Supplementary. To The Hon Stuart Nash. Mr Speaker, yes. Supplementary. To the The Hon Stuart Nash. Mr Speaker, yes. Supplementary. To the minister: yes. Supplementary. To the minister: Did yes. Supplementary. To the minister: Did the yes. Supplementary. To the minister: Did the police yes. Supplementary. To the minister: Did the police pay yes. Supplementary. To the minister: Did the police pay for yes. Supplementary. To the minister: Did the police pay for the yes. Supplementary. To the minister: Did the police pay for the return yes. Supplementary. 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The Wellbeing Budget provides $9.4 million over four provides $9.4 million over four years provides $9.4 million over four years to provides $9.4 million over four years to strengthen provides $9.4 million over four years to strengthen our provides $9.4 million over four years to strengthen our ethnic years to strengthen our ethnic communities years to strengthen our ethnic communities and years to strengthen our ethnic communities and to years to strengthen our ethnic communities and to provide years to strengthen our ethnic communities and to provide support communities and to provide support for communities and to provide support for our communities and to provide support for our diverse communities and to provide support for our diverse communities, for our diverse communities, including for our diverse communities, including for for our diverse communities, including for our for our diverse communities, including for our Muslim for our diverse communities, including for our Muslim brothers including for our Muslim brothers and including for our Muslim brothers and sisters, including for our Muslim brothers and sisters, following including for our Muslim brothers and sisters, following the including for our Muslim brothers and sisters, following the 15 including for our Muslim brothers and sisters, following the 15 March and sisters, following the 15 March terror and sisters, following the 15 March terror attacks. and sisters, following the 15 March terror attacks. 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We know it is crucial that our portfolio announced in April. We know it is crucial that our diverse know it is crucial that our diverse and know it is crucial that our diverse and multi-faith know it is crucial that our diverse and multi-faith communities know it is crucial that our diverse and multi-faith communities are and multi-faith communities are connected and multi-faith communities are connected and and multi-faith communities are connected and engaged and multi-faith communities are connected and engaged and and multi-faith communities are connected and engaged and supported. connected and engaged and supported. This connected and engaged and supported. This funding connected and engaged and supported. This funding will connected and engaged and supported. This funding will support connected and engaged and supported. This funding will support that. connected and engaged and supported. This funding will support that. How This funding will support that. 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What lead their own initiatives. What responsibilities lead their own initiatives. What responsibilities does lead their own initiatives. What responsibilities does the lead their own initiatives. What responsibilities does the Office lead their own initiatives. What responsibilities does the Office of responsibilities does the Office of Ethnic responsibilities does the Office of Ethnic Communities responsibilities does the Office of Ethnic Communities have? responsibilities does the Office of Ethnic Communities have? Mr responsibilities does the Office of Ethnic Communities have? Mr Speaker, Ethnic Communities have? Mr Speaker, the Ethnic Communities have? Mr Speaker, the Office Ethnic Communities have? Mr Speaker, the Office of Ethnic Communities have? Mr Speaker, the Office of Ethnic Ethnic Communities have? Mr Speaker, the Office of Ethnic Communities Ethnic Communities have? 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