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The The Honourable The Honourable Grant The Honourable Grant Robertson. The Honourable Grant Robertson. Mr The Honourable Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, The Honourable Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, yes. The Honourable Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, yes. Was The Honourable Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, yes. Was it The Honourable Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, yes. Was it a The Honourable Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, yes. Was it a resourcing Speaker, yes. Was it a resourcing failure Speaker, yes. Was it a resourcing failure that Speaker, yes. Was it a resourcing failure that led Speaker, yes. Was it a resourcing failure that led to Speaker, yes. Was it a resourcing failure that led to sensitive Speaker, yes. Was it a resourcing failure that led to sensitive budget failure that led to sensitive budget information, failure that led to sensitive budget information, including failure that led to sensitive budget information, including annual information, including annual appropriation information, including annual appropriation information information, including annual appropriation information for information, including annual appropriation information for 18 appropriation information for 18 votes appropriation information for 18 votes being appropriation information for 18 votes being obtained appropriation information for 18 votes being obtained and appropriation information for 18 votes being obtained and released appropriation information for 18 votes being obtained and released by votes being obtained and released by the votes being obtained and released by the National votes being obtained and released by the National Party, votes being obtained and released by the National Party, three votes being obtained and released by the National Party, three days the National Party, three days before the National Party, three days before budget? the National Party, three days before budget? Mr the National Party, three days before budget? Mr Speaker, the National Party, three days before budget? Mr Speaker, no, the National Party, three days before budget? Mr Speaker, no, I before budget? Mr Speaker, no, I don't before budget? Mr Speaker, no, I don't believe before budget? Mr Speaker, no, I don't believe so. before budget? Mr Speaker, no, I don't believe so. <LAUGHS> don't believe so. <LAUGHS> Well, don't believe so. <LAUGHS> Well, will don't believe so. <LAUGHS> Well, will he don't believe so. <LAUGHS> Well, will he then don't believe so. <LAUGHS> Well, will he then offer don't believe so. <LAUGHS> Well, will he then offer his Well, will he then offer his resignation Well, will he then offer his resignation to Well, will he then offer his resignation to the Well, will he then offer his resignation to the Prime Well, will he then offer his resignation to the Prime Minister, resignation to the Prime Minister, as resignation to the Prime Minister, as then resignation to the Prime Minister, as then Minister resignation to the Prime Minister, as then Minister for resignation to the Prime Minister, as then Minister for Finance resignation to the Prime Minister, as then Minister for Finance Roger as then Minister for Finance Roger Duglested as then Minister for Finance Roger Duglested in as then Minister for Finance Roger Duglested in 1996 as then Minister for Finance Roger Duglested in 1996 when as then Minister for Finance Roger Duglested in 1996 when sensitive Duglested in 1996 when sensitive budget Duglested in 1996 when sensitive budget information Duglested in 1996 when sensitive budget information was Duglested in 1996 when sensitive budget information was leaked Duglested in 1996 when sensitive budget information was leaked before budget information was leaked before the budget information was leaked before the Budget? budget information was leaked before the Budget? 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Mr Speaker, in my life, I have made it my ambition not to I have made it my ambition not to follow I have made it my ambition not to follow what I have made it my ambition not to follow what Roger I have made it my ambition not to follow what Roger Douglas I have made it my ambition not to follow what Roger Douglas does. follow what Roger Douglas does. <LAUGHTER> <APPLAUSE> <APPLAUSE> Why <APPLAUSE> Why won't <APPLAUSE> Why won't he <APPLAUSE> Why won't he offer <APPLAUSE> Why won't he offer his <APPLAUSE> Why won't he offer his resignation Why won't he offer his resignation as Why won't he offer his resignation as other Why won't he offer his resignation as other ministers Why won't he offer his resignation as other ministers of Why won't he offer his resignation as other ministers of finance Why won't he offer his resignation as other ministers of finance have as other ministers of finance have done as other ministers of finance have done when as other ministers of finance have done when today as other ministers of finance have done when today he's as other ministers of finance have done when today he's confirmed as other ministers of finance have done when today he's confirmed that done when today he's confirmed that confidential done when today he's confirmed that confidential and done when today he's confirmed that confidential and accurate done when today he's confirmed that confidential and accurate budget confidential and accurate budget information confidential and accurate budget information has confidential and accurate budget information has found confidential and accurate budget information has found its confidential and accurate budget information has found its way confidential and accurate budget information has found its way to confidential and accurate budget information has found its way to the information has found its way to the opposition information has found its way to the opposition three information has found its way to the opposition three days information has found its way to the opposition three days before information has found its way to the opposition three days before the opposition three days before the Budget? opposition three days before the Budget? Mr opposition three days before the Budget? Mr Speaker, opposition three days before the Budget? Mr Speaker, I opposition three days before the Budget? Mr Speaker, I reject opposition three days before the Budget? Mr Speaker, I reject the Budget? Mr Speaker, I reject the premise Budget? Mr Speaker, I reject the premise and Budget? Mr Speaker, I reject the premise and that Budget? Mr Speaker, I reject the premise and that member's Budget? Mr Speaker, I reject the premise and that member's question. premise and that member's question. The premise and that member's question. The Budget premise and that member's question. The Budget will premise and that member's question. The Budget will be premise and that member's question. The Budget will be released premise and that member's question. The Budget will be released on The Budget will be released on Thursday. The Budget will be released on Thursday. Has The Budget will be released on Thursday. 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The Budget will be released on Thursday and New Zealanders will on Thursday and New Zealanders will be on Thursday and New Zealanders will be very on Thursday and New Zealanders will be very pleased on Thursday and New Zealanders will be very pleased to on Thursday and New Zealanders will be very pleased to see on Thursday and New Zealanders will be very pleased to see that on Thursday and New Zealanders will be very pleased to see that at on Thursday and New Zealanders will be very pleased to see that at least be very pleased to see that at least on be very pleased to see that at least on this be very pleased to see that at least on this side be very pleased to see that at least on this side of be very pleased to see that at least on this side of the be very pleased to see that at least on this side of the House be very pleased to see that at least on this side of the House we be very pleased to see that at least on this side of the House we are on this side of the House we are focused on this side of the House we are focused on on this side of the House we are focused on mental on this side of the House we are focused on mental health, on this side of the House we are focused on mental health, child focused on mental health, child wellbeing, focused on mental health, child wellbeing, improving focused on mental health, child wellbeing, improving Maori focused on mental health, child wellbeing, improving Maori and wellbeing, improving Maori and Pasifika's wellbeing, improving Maori and Pasifika's economy, wellbeing, improving Maori and Pasifika's economy, unlike wellbeing, improving Maori and Pasifika's economy, unlike those Pasifika's economy, unlike those members Pasifika's economy, unlike those members on Pasifika's economy, unlike those members on that Pasifika's economy, unlike those members on that side Pasifika's economy, unlike those members on that side of Pasifika's economy, unlike those members on that side of the Pasifika's economy, unlike those members on that side of the House members on that side of the House who members on that side of the House who are members on that side of the House who are focused members on that side of the House who are focused squarely members on that side of the House who are focused squarely internally. who are focused squarely internally. 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No. 4, Jenny Marcroft. <SPEAKS No. 4, Jenny Marcroft. <SPEAKS TE No. 4, Jenny Marcroft. <SPEAKS TE REO No. 4, Jenny Marcroft. <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Children: Children: What Children: What announcements Children: What announcements has Children: What announcements has she Children: What announcements has she recently What announcements has she recently made What announcements has she recently made regarding What announcements has she recently made regarding young What announcements has she recently made regarding young people What announcements has she recently made regarding young people in What announcements has she recently made regarding young people in State made regarding young people in State care? The The Honourable The Honourable Tracey The Honourable Tracey Martin. The Honourable Tracey Martin. Mr The Honourable Tracey Martin. Mr Speaker, The Honourable Tracey Martin. Mr Speaker, on The Honourable Tracey Martin. Mr Speaker, on Sunday The Honourable Tracey Martin. Mr Speaker, on Sunday I The Honourable Tracey Martin. Mr Speaker, on Sunday I announced The Honourable Tracey Martin. Mr Speaker, on Sunday I announced that Speaker, on Sunday I announced that the Speaker, on Sunday I announced that the wellbeing Speaker, on Sunday I announced that the wellbeing but Speaker, on Sunday I announced that the wellbeing but will Speaker, on Sunday I announced that the wellbeing but will fund Speaker, on Sunday I announced that the wellbeing but will fund a the wellbeing but will fund a What the wellbeing but will fund a service to help the wellbeing but will fund a service to help young the wellbeing but will fund a service to help young people the wellbeing but will fund a service to help young people who service to help young people who have service to help young people who have been service to help young people who have been in service to help young people who have been in care service to help young people who have been in care to service to help young people who have been in care to make service to help young people who have been in care to make the have been in care to make the transition have been in care to make the transition to have been in care to make the transition to independence have been in care to make the transition to independence and transition to independence and adulthood. transition to independence and adulthood. When transition to independence and adulthood. When most transition to independence and adulthood. When most young transition to independence and adulthood. When most young people adulthood. When most young people grow adulthood. When most young people grow up adulthood. When most young people grow up and adulthood. When most young people grow up and leave adulthood. When most young people grow up and leave home adulthood. When most young people grow up and leave home they adulthood. 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That transition service, which has been sadly service, which has been sadly lacking, service, which has been sadly lacking, will service, which has been sadly lacking, will start service, which has been sadly lacking, will start on service, which has been sadly lacking, will start on 1 service, which has been sadly lacking, will start on 1 July service, which has been sadly lacking, will start on 1 July and service, which has been sadly lacking, will start on 1 July and I lacking, will start on 1 July and I am lacking, will start on 1 July and I am proud lacking, will start on 1 July and I am proud that lacking, will start on 1 July and I am proud that we lacking, will start on 1 July and I am proud that we the lacking, will start on 1 July and I am proud that we the government lacking, will start on 1 July and I am proud that we the government are am proud that we the government are doing am proud that we the government are doing right am proud that we the government are doing right by am proud that we the government are doing right by these am proud that we the government are doing right by these young am proud that we the government are doing right by these young people. doing right by these young people. <APPLAUSE> <APPLAUSE> Supplementary. <APPLAUSE> Supplementary. How <APPLAUSE> Supplementary. How will <APPLAUSE> Supplementary. How will the Supplementary. How will the transition Supplementary. How will the transition service Supplementary. How will the transition service work? Supplementary. How will the transition service work? Mr Supplementary. How will the transition service work? Mr Speaker, transition service work? Mr Speaker, the transition service work? Mr Speaker, the heart transition service work? Mr Speaker, the heart of transition service work? Mr Speaker, the heart of the transition service work? Mr Speaker, the heart of the new transition service work? Mr Speaker, the heart of the new service transition service work? Mr Speaker, the heart of the new service sits the heart of the new service sits around the heart of the new service sits around what the heart of the new service sits around what young the heart of the new service sits around what young people the heart of the new service sits around what young people said the heart of the new service sits around what young people said they around what young people said they wanted around what young people said they wanted - around what young people said they wanted - the around what young people said they wanted - the key around what young people said they wanted - the key thing around what young people said they wanted - the key thing being around what young people said they wanted - the key thing being for wanted - the key thing being for someone wanted - the key thing being for someone to wanted - the key thing being for someone to count wanted - the key thing being for someone to count on wanted - the key thing being for someone to count on and wanted - the key thing being for someone to count on and who wanted - the key thing being for someone to count on and who will someone to count on and who will listen someone to count on and who will listen and someone to count on and who will listen and support someone to count on and who will listen and support and someone to count on and who will listen and support and advise. someone to count on and who will listen and support and advise. 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They strong, loving relationships with their care givers. They often strong, loving relationships with their care givers. They often want their care givers. They often want to their care givers. They often want to stay their care givers. They often want to stay with their care givers. They often want to stay with their their care givers. They often want to stay with their care their care givers. They often want to stay with their care givers to stay with their care givers beyond to stay with their care givers beyond their to stay with their care givers beyond their 18th to stay with their care givers beyond their 18th birthday to stay with their care givers beyond their 18th birthday and to stay with their care givers beyond their 18th birthday and care beyond their 18th birthday and care givers beyond their 18th birthday and care givers want beyond their 18th birthday and care givers want them beyond their 18th birthday and care givers want them to. beyond their 18th birthday and care givers want them to. At beyond their 18th birthday and care givers want them to. At the beyond their 18th birthday and care givers want them to. At the moment givers want them to. At the moment the givers want them to. At the moment the state givers want them to. At the moment the state doesn't givers want them to. At the moment the state doesn't support givers want them to. At the moment the state doesn't support these the state doesn't support these arrangements the state doesn't support these arrangements to the state doesn't support these arrangements to carry the state doesn't support these arrangements to carry on. the state doesn't support these arrangements to carry on. That the state doesn't support these arrangements to carry on. That will arrangements to carry on. That will change arrangements to carry on. That will change in arrangements to carry on. That will change in July. arrangements to carry on. That will change in July. They arrangements to carry on. That will change in July. They can arrangements to carry on. That will change in July. They can stay arrangements to carry on. That will change in July. They can stay until change in July. They can stay until they change in July. They can stay until they are change in July. They can stay until they are 21 change in July. They can stay until they are 21 as change in July. They can stay until they are 21 as part change in July. They can stay until they are 21 as part of change in July. They can stay until they are 21 as part of this change in July. They can stay until they are 21 as part of this new they are 21 as part of this new service. they are 21 as part of this new service. There they are 21 as part of this new service. There will they are 21 as part of this new service. There will also they are 21 as part of this new service. There will also be they are 21 as part of this new service. There will also be 60 they are 21 as part of this new service. There will also be 60 new service. There will also be 60 new independent service. There will also be 60 new independent accommodation service. There will also be 60 new independent accommodation units service. There will also be 60 new independent accommodation units for independent accommodation units for those independent accommodation units for those who independent accommodation units for those who need independent accommodation units for those who need a independent accommodation units for those who need a stepping independent accommodation units for those who need a stepping stone those who need a stepping stone between those who need a stepping stone between care those who need a stepping stone between care placements those who need a stepping stone between care placements and those who need a stepping stone between care placements and full between care placements and full independence between care placements and full independence and between care placements and full independence and finally between care placements and full independence and finally we between care placements and full independence and finally we will independence and finally we will create independence and finally we will create an independence and finally we will create an advice independence and finally we will create an advice and independence and finally we will create an advice and support independence and finally we will create an advice and support service create an advice and support service available create an advice and support service available to create an advice and support service available to these create an advice and support service available to these young create an advice and support service available to these young people create an advice and support service available to these young people up available to these young people up until available to these young people up until the available to these young people up until the age available to these young people up until the age of available to these young people up until the age of 25. available to these young people up until the age of 25. Supplementary. until the age of 25. Supplementary. Where until the age of 25. Supplementary. Where did until the age of 25. Supplementary. Where did this until the age of 25. Supplementary. Where did this idea until the age of 25. Supplementary. Where did this idea for until the age of 25. Supplementary. Where did this idea for the until the age of 25. Supplementary. Where did this idea for the service Where did this idea for the service come Where did this idea for the service come from? Where did this idea for the service come from? Mr Where did this idea for the service come from? Mr Speaker, Where did this idea for the service come from? Mr Speaker, from Where did this idea for the service come from? Mr Speaker, from the come from? Mr Speaker, from the care, come from? Mr Speaker, from the care, experienced come from? Mr Speaker, from the care, experienced young come from? Mr Speaker, from the care, experienced young people care, experienced young people themselves care, experienced young people themselves and, care, experienced young people themselves and, based care, experienced young people themselves and, based on care, experienced young people themselves and, based on their themselves and, based on their voice, themselves and, based on their voice, established themselves and, based on their voice, established stronger voice, established stronger transition voice, established stronger transition support voice, established stronger transition support was voice, established stronger transition support was a voice, established stronger transition support was a cor transition support was a cor recommendation transition support was a cor recommendation of transition support was a cor recommendation of the transition support was a cor recommendation of the Modernising recommendation of the Modernising Youth recommendation of the Modernising Youth and recommendation of the Modernising Youth and Family recommendation of the Modernising Youth and Family Expert recommendation of the Modernising Youth and Family Expert Panel Youth and Family Expert Panel established Youth and Family Expert Panel established in Youth and Family Expert Panel established in 2015. Youth and Family Expert Panel established in 2015. I Youth and Family Expert Panel established in 2015. I am Youth and Family Expert Panel established in 2015. I am proud Youth and Family Expert Panel established in 2015. I am proud that established in 2015. I am proud that this established in 2015. I am proud that this coalition established in 2015. I am proud that this coalition government established in 2015. I am proud that this coalition government took established in 2015. I am proud that this coalition government took this this coalition government took this recommendation this coalition government took this recommendation and this coalition government took this recommendation and turned this coalition government took this recommendation and turned it this coalition government took this recommendation and turned it into this coalition government took this recommendation and turned it into a recommendation and turned it into a reality. recommendation and turned it into a reality. Oranga recommendation and turned it into a reality. Oranga Tamariki recommendation and turned it into a reality. Oranga Tamariki have recommendation and turned it into a reality. Oranga Tamariki have worked reality. Oranga Tamariki have worked alongside reality. Oranga Tamariki have worked alongside the reality. Oranga Tamariki have worked alongside the young reality. Oranga Tamariki have worked alongside the young people reality. Oranga Tamariki have worked alongside the young people to reality. Oranga Tamariki have worked alongside the young people to plan alongside the young people to plan and alongside the young people to plan and meet alongside the young people to plan and meet what alongside the young people to plan and meet what they alongside the young people to plan and meet what they need alongside the young people to plan and meet what they need to and meet what they need to transition and meet what they need to transition successfully and meet what they need to transition successfully out and meet what they need to transition successfully out of and meet what they need to transition successfully out of care. transition successfully out of care. This transition successfully out of care. This work transition successfully out of care. This work has transition successfully out of care. This work has been transition successfully out of care. This work has been done transition successfully out of care. This work has been done over transition successfully out of care. This work has been done over the This work has been done over the last This work has been done over the last 18 This work has been done over the last 18 months, This work has been done over the last 18 months, but This work has been done over the last 18 months, but I This work has been done over the last 18 months, but I acknowledge last 18 months, but I acknowledge the last 18 months, but I acknowledge the work last 18 months, but I acknowledge the work of last 18 months, but I acknowledge the work of the last 18 months, but I acknowledge the work of the Honourable last 18 months, but I acknowledge the work of the Honourable Paula the work of the Honourable Paula Bennett the work of the Honourable Paula Bennett and the work of the Honourable Paula Bennett and the the work of the Honourable Paula Bennett and the Honourable the work of the Honourable Paula Bennett and the Honourable Anne Bennett and the Honourable Anne Tolley Bennett and the Honourable Anne Tolley in Bennett and the Honourable Anne Tolley in the Bennett and the Honourable Anne Tolley in the years Bennett and the Honourable Anne Tolley in the years prior Bennett and the Honourable Anne Tolley in the years prior to Bennett and the Honourable Anne Tolley in the years prior to this Tolley in the years prior to this and Tolley in the years prior to this and setting Tolley in the years prior to this and setting the Tolley in the years prior to this and setting the direction, Tolley in the years prior to this and setting the direction, so Tolley in the years prior to this and setting the direction, so that and setting the direction, so that this and setting the direction, so that this government and setting the direction, so that this government can and setting the direction, so that this government can carry and setting the direction, so that this government can carry on and setting the direction, so that this government can carry on now this government can carry on now with this government can carry on now with the this government can carry on now with the funding this government can carry on now with the funding required this government can carry on now with the funding required and this government can carry on now with the funding required and the with the funding required and the operating with the funding required and the operating model with the funding required and the operating model that with the funding required and the operating model that needed with the funding required and the operating model that needed to with the funding required and the operating model that needed to be operating model that needed to be put operating model that needed to be put into operating model that needed to be put into place. operating model that needed to be put into place. Question operating model that needed to be put into place. Question No. operating model that needed to be put into place. Question No. 5, operating model that needed to be put into place. Question No. 5, the put into place. Question No. 5, the Honourable put into place. Question No. 5, the Honourable Judith put into place. Question No. 5, the Honourable Judith Collins. Honourable Judith Collins. <SPEAKS Honourable Judith Collins. <SPEAKS TE Honourable Judith Collins. <SPEAKS TE REO Honourable Judith Collins. <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> . My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Housing My question is to the Minister of Housing and My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: Housing and Urban Development: How Housing and Urban Development: How many Housing and Urban Development: How many KiwiBuild Housing and Urban Development: How many KiwiBuild houses Housing and Urban Development: How many KiwiBuild houses are Housing and Urban Development: How many KiwiBuild houses are either How many KiwiBuild houses are either already How many KiwiBuild houses are either already completed How many KiwiBuild houses are either already completed or How many KiwiBuild houses are either already completed or contracted How many KiwiBuild houses are either already completed or contracted and already completed or contracted and scheduled already completed or contracted and scheduled to already completed or contracted and scheduled to be already completed or contracted and scheduled to be completed already completed or contracted and scheduled to be completed by already completed or contracted and scheduled to be completed by 1 already completed or contracted and scheduled to be completed by 1 July scheduled to be completed by 1 July 2019, scheduled to be completed by 1 July 2019, and scheduled to be completed by 1 July 2019, and how scheduled to be completed by 1 July 2019, and how many scheduled to be completed by 1 July 2019, and how many are scheduled to be completed by 1 July 2019, and how many are already 2019, and how many are already completed 2019, and how many are already completed or 2019, and how many are already completed or contracted 2019, and how many are already completed or contracted and completed or contracted and scheduled completed or contracted and scheduled to completed or contracted and scheduled to be completed or contracted and scheduled to be completed scheduled to be completed by scheduled to be completed by 1 scheduled to be completed by 1 October scheduled to be completed by 1 October 2020? The The Honourable The Honourable Phil The Honourable Phil Twyford. The Honourable Phil Twyford. 266, The Honourable Phil Twyford. 266, 2, The Honourable Phil Twyford. 266, 2, 525 The Honourable Phil Twyford. 266, 2, 525 by The Honourable Phil Twyford. 266, 2, 525 by July The Honourable Phil Twyford. 266, 2, 525 by July 2020, The Honourable Phil Twyford. 266, 2, 525 by July 2020, hence The Honourable Phil Twyford. 266, 2, 525 by July 2020, hence the The Honourable Phil Twyford. 266, 2, 525 by July 2020, hence the reset. 525 by July 2020, hence the reset. Why 525 by July 2020, hence the reset. Why did 525 by July 2020, hence the reset. Why did he 525 by July 2020, hence the reset. Why did he announce 525 by July 2020, hence the reset. Why did he announce within 525 by July 2020, hence the reset. Why did he announce within a 525 by July 2020, hence the reset. Why did he announce within a month Why did he announce within a month of Why did he announce within a month of becoming Why did he announce within a month of becoming Minister Why did he announce within a month of becoming Minister that Why did he announce within a month of becoming Minister that the of becoming Minister that the government of becoming Minister that the government would of becoming Minister that the government would deliver of becoming Minister that the government would deliver 16,000 government would deliver 16,000 houses government would deliver 16,000 of government would deliver 16,000 houses before the government would deliver 16,000 houses before the next government would deliver 16,000 houses before the next election? houses before the next election? Well, houses before the next election? Well, as houses before the next election? Well, as the houses before the next election? Well, as the member houses before the next election? Well, as the member knows, houses before the next election? Well, as the member knows, we houses before the next election? Well, as the member knows, we have Well, as the member knows, we have made Well, as the member knows, we have made it Well, as the member knows, we have made it very Well, as the member knows, we have made it very clear Well, as the member knows, we have made it very clear that Well, as the member knows, we have made it very clear that we Well, as the member knows, we have made it very clear that we share made it very clear that we share everyone's made it very clear that we share everyone's disappointment made it very clear that we share everyone's disappointment with made it very clear that we share everyone's disappointment with the everyone's disappointment with the disappointing everyone's disappointment with the disappointing numbers everyone's disappointment with the disappointing numbers that everyone's disappointment with the disappointing numbers that KiwiBuild disappointing numbers that KiwiBuild has disappointing numbers that KiwiBuild has achieved disappointing numbers that KiwiBuild has achieved in disappointing numbers that KiwiBuild has achieved in the disappointing numbers that KiwiBuild has achieved in the first has achieved in the first year-and-a-half has achieved in the first year-and-a-half of has achieved in the first year-and-a-half of the has achieved in the first year-and-a-half of the program. has achieved in the first year-and-a-half of the program. We year-and-a-half of the program. We wished year-and-a-half of the program. We wished that year-and-a-half of the program. We wished that those year-and-a-half of the program. We wished that those numbers year-and-a-half of the program. We wished that those numbers were wished that those numbers were better wished that those numbers were better and wished that those numbers were better and that wished that those numbers were better and that is wished that those numbers were better and that is why wished that those numbers were better and that is why we wished that those numbers were better and that is why we are wished that those numbers were better and that is why we are do wished that those numbers were better and that is why we are do egg better and that is why we are do egg the better and that is why we are do egg the reset. better and that is why we are do egg the reset. We better and that is why we are do egg the reset. We are better and that is why we are do egg the reset. We are committed better and that is why we are do egg the reset. We are committed to the reset. We are committed to improving the reset. We are committed to improving the the reset. We are committed to improving the KiwiBuild the reset. We are committed to improving the KiwiBuild policy the reset. We are committed to improving the KiwiBuild policy and improving the KiwiBuild policy and we improving the KiwiBuild policy and we do improving the KiwiBuild policy and we do not improving the KiwiBuild policy and we do not step improving the KiwiBuild policy and we do not step away improving the KiwiBuild policy and we do not step away from improving the KiwiBuild policy and we do not step away from our we do not step away from our commitment we do not step away from our commitment to we do not step away from our commitment to get we do not step away from our commitment to get more we do not step away from our commitment to get more affordable commitment to get more affordable hopes commitment to get more affordable hopes built commitment to get more affordable hopes built to commitment to get more affordable hopes built to help commitment to get more affordable hopes built to help young commitment to get more affordable hopes built to help young Kiwi hopes built to help young Kiwi families hopes built to help young Kiwi families get hopes built to help young Kiwi families get into hopes built to help young Kiwi families get into their hopes built to help young Kiwi families get into their own hopes built to help young Kiwi families get into their own homes. families get into their own homes. Did families get into their own homes. Did Cabinet families get into their own homes. Did Cabinet agree families get into their own homes. Did Cabinet agree to families get into their own homes. Did Cabinet agree to the families get into their own homes. Did Cabinet agree to the targets families get into their own homes. Did Cabinet agree to the targets for Did Cabinet agree to the targets for 1,000 Did Cabinet agree to the targets for 1,000 houses Did Cabinet agree to the targets for 1,000 houses in Did Cabinet agree to the targets for 1,000 houses in the Did Cabinet agree to the targets for 1,000 houses in the first Did Cabinet agree to the targets for 1,000 houses in the first year, 1,000 houses in the first year, 5,000 1,000 houses in the first year, 5,000 the 1,000 houses in the first year, 5,000 the next 1,000 houses in the first year, 5,000 the next and 1,000 houses in the first year, 5,000 the next and 10,000 1,000 houses in the first year, 5,000 the next and 10,000 the 1,000 houses in the first year, 5,000 the next and 10,000 the year 5,000 the next and 10,000 the year after 5,000 the next and 10,000 the year after that? 5,000 the next and 10,000 the year after that? Those 5,000 the next and 10,000 the year after that? Those targets 5,000 the next and 10,000 the year after that? Those targets were 5,000 the next and 10,000 the year after that? Those targets were set after that? Those targets were set in after that? Those targets were set in the after that? Those targets were set in the very, after that? Those targets were set in the very, very after that? Those targets were set in the very, very early after that? Those targets were set in the very, very early weeks after that? Those targets were set in the very, very early weeks of after that? Those targets were set in the very, very early weeks of the in the very, very early weeks of the government in the very, very early weeks of the government and in the very, very early weeks of the government and I in the very, very early weeks of the government and I am in the very, very early weeks of the government and I am pretty in the very, very early weeks of the government and I am pretty sure in the very, very early weeks of the government and I am pretty sure they government and I am pretty sure they were government and I am pretty sure they were included government and I am pretty sure they were included in government and I am pretty sure they were included in documents government and I am pretty sure they were included in documents that government and I am pretty sure they were included in documents that were were included in documents that were run were included in documents that were run by were included in documents that were run by the were included in documents that were run by the Cabinet were included in documents that were run by the Cabinet and were included in documents that were run by the Cabinet and the were included in documents that were run by the Cabinet and the Cabinet run by the Cabinet and the Cabinet has run by the Cabinet and the Cabinet has been run by the Cabinet and the Cabinet has been seized run by the Cabinet and the Cabinet has been seized of run by the Cabinet and the Cabinet has been seized of those run by the Cabinet and the Cabinet has been seized of those numbers run by the Cabinet and the Cabinet has been seized of those numbers and has been seized of those numbers and the has been seized of those numbers and the progress has been seized of those numbers and the progress of has been seized of those numbers and the progress of the has been seized of those numbers and the progress of the KiwiBuild the progress of the KiwiBuild program the progress of the KiwiBuild program all the progress of the KiwiBuild program all the the progress of the KiwiBuild program all the way the progress of the KiwiBuild program all the way along. the progress of the KiwiBuild program all the way along. 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There are approximately 2, join 500 state KiwiBuild? There are approximately 2, join 500 state houses KiwiBuild? There are approximately 2, join 500 state houses currently 2, join 500 state houses currently under 2, join 500 state houses currently under construction, 2, join 500 state houses currently under construction, as 2, join 500 state houses currently under construction, as well 2, join 500 state houses currently under construction, as well as under construction, as well as nearly under construction, as well as nearly 400 under construction, as well as nearly 400 KiwiBuild under construction, as well as nearly 400 KiwiBuild homes under construction, as well as nearly 400 KiwiBuild homes under nearly 400 KiwiBuild homes under construction. nearly 400 KiwiBuild homes under construction. Consent nearly 400 KiwiBuild homes under construction. Consent data nearly 400 KiwiBuild homes under construction. Consent data shows construction. Consent data shows that construction. Consent data shows that across construction. Consent data shows that across the construction. Consent data shows that across the build construction. Consent data shows that across the build program, that across the build program, government that across the build program, government agencies that across the build program, government agencies are that across the build program, government agencies are now government agencies are now responsible government agencies are now responsible for government agencies are now responsible for more government agencies are now responsible for more new government agencies are now responsible for more new homes government agencies are now responsible for more new homes than responsible for more new homes than at responsible for more new homes than at any responsible for more new homes than at any time responsible for more new homes than at any time since responsible for more new homes than at any time since the responsible for more new homes than at any time since the 1970s responsible for more new homes than at any time since the 1970s and responsible for more new homes than at any time since the 1970s and we at any time since the 1970s and we make at any time since the 1970s and we make no at any time since the 1970s and we make no apology at any time since the 1970s and we make no apology for at any time since the 1970s and we make no apology for backing at any time since the 1970s and we make no apology for backing builders make no apology for backing builders to make no apology for backing builders to build make no apology for backing builders to build affordable make no apology for backing builders to build affordable homes. make no apology for backing builders to build affordable homes. Judith to build affordable homes. Judith Collins. to build affordable homes. Judith Collins. Is to build affordable homes. Judith Collins. Is he to build affordable homes. Judith Collins. Is he responsible to build affordable homes. Judith Collins. Is he responsible for, to build affordable homes. Judith Collins. Is he responsible for, on Collins. Is he responsible for, on the Collins. Is he responsible for, on the one Collins. Is he responsible for, on the one hand Collins. Is he responsible for, on the one hand suggesting Collins. Is he responsible for, on the one hand suggesting that Collins. Is he responsible for, on the one hand suggesting that the the one hand suggesting that the government the one hand suggesting that the government can the one hand suggesting that the government can deliver the one hand suggesting that the government can deliver thousands the one hand suggesting that the government can deliver thousands of government can deliver thousands of houses government can deliver thousands of houses per government can deliver thousands of houses per year government can deliver thousands of houses per year and, government can deliver thousands of houses per year and, on government can deliver thousands of houses per year and, on the government can deliver thousands of houses per year and, on the other houses per year and, on the other hand, houses per year and, on the other hand, now houses per year and, on the other hand, now only houses per year and, on the other hand, now only being houses per year and, on the other hand, now only being in houses per year and, on the other hand, now only being in a houses per year and, on the other hand, now only being in a position hand, now only being in a position to hand, now only being in a position to deliver hand, now only being in a position to deliver around hand, now only being in a position to deliver around 1,500 hand, now only being in a position to deliver around 1,500 during hand, now only being in a position to deliver around 1,500 during this to deliver around 1,500 during this term to deliver around 1,500 during this term of to deliver around 1,500 during this term of government? to deliver around 1,500 during this term of government? 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Has he received any reports or evidence Winston Peters. Has he received any reports or evidence on Winston Peters. Has he received any reports or evidence on how Winston Peters. Has he received any reports or evidence on how the reports or evidence on how the figures reports or evidence on how the figures that reports or evidence on how the figures that he reports or evidence on how the figures that he is reports or evidence on how the figures that he is using reports or evidence on how the figures that he is using compare figures that he is using compare with figures that he is using compare with the figures that he is using compare with the number figures that he is using compare with the number of figures that he is using compare with the number of affordable figures that he is using compare with the number of affordable homes with the number of affordable homes built with the number of affordable homes built under with the number of affordable homes built under the with the number of affordable homes built under the last with the number of affordable homes built under the last government? built under the last government? Yes, built under the last government? Yes, I built under the last government? Yes, I thank built under the last government? Yes, I thank the built under the last government? Yes, I thank the Member built under the last government? Yes, I thank the Member for built under the last government? Yes, I thank the Member for That Yes, I thank the Member for That question. Yes, I thank the Member for That question. As Yes, I thank the Member for That question. As I Yes, I thank the Member for That question. As I said Yes, I thank the Member for That question. As I said before, Yes, I thank the Member for That question. As I said before, 1,50035 question. As I said before, 1,50035 homes question. As I said before, 1,50035 homes contracted question. As I said before, 1,50035 homes contracted to question. As I said before, 1,50035 homes contracted to be question. As I said before, 1,50035 homes contracted to be delivered question. As I said before, 1,50035 homes contracted to be delivered by homes contracted to be delivered by July homes contracted to be delivered by July 2020. homes contracted to be delivered by July 2020. By homes contracted to be delivered by July 2020. By coincidence, homes contracted to be delivered by July 2020. By coincidence, that July 2020. By coincidence, that happens July 2020. By coincidence, that happens to July 2020. By coincidence, that happens to be July 2020. By coincidence, that happens to be the July 2020. By coincidence, that happens to be the same July 2020. By coincidence, that happens to be the same number July 2020. 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Actually, they did in the 18 months before that? Actually, I they did in the 18 months before that? Actually, I think they did in the 18 months before that? Actually, I think the they did in the 18 months before that? Actually, I think the member that? Actually, I think the member will that? Actually, I think the member will find that? Actually, I think the member will find that that? Actually, I think the member will find that under that? Actually, I think the member will find that under our that? Actually, I think the member will find that under our government will find that under our government and will find that under our government and under will find that under our government and under our will find that under our government and under our policies, will find that under our government and under our policies, the will find that under our government and under our policies, the private and under our policies, the private sector and under our policies, the private sector has and under our policies, the private sector has been and under our policies, the private sector has been building and under our policies, the private sector has been building more and under our policies, the private sector has been building more homes sector has been building more homes than sector has been building more homes than at sector has been building more homes than at any sector has been building more homes than at any time sector has been building more homes than at any time since sector has been building more homes than at any time since 2007. sector has been building more homes than at any time since 2007. 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Supplementary. don't end up in overcrowded schools. Supplementary. How don't end up in overcrowded schools. Supplementary. How many don't end up in overcrowded schools. Supplementary. How many years don't end up in overcrowded schools. Supplementary. How many years does Supplementary. How many years does it Supplementary. How many years does it take Supplementary. How many years does it take to Supplementary. How many years does it take to build Supplementary. How many years does it take to build a Supplementary. How many years does it take to build a school? Supplementary. How many years does it take to build a school? Mr it take to build a school? Mr Speaker, it take to build a school? Mr Speaker, it it take to build a school? Mr Speaker, it can it take to build a school? Mr Speaker, it can take it take to build a school? Mr Speaker, it can take five it take to build a school? Mr Speaker, it can take five to it take to build a school? Mr Speaker, it can take five to six Speaker, it can take five to six years Speaker, it can take five to six years to Speaker, it can take five to six years to deliver Speaker, it can take five to six years to deliver a Speaker, it can take five to six years to deliver a new Speaker, it can take five to six years to deliver a new school Speaker, it can take five to six years to deliver a new school from years to deliver a new school from acquiring years to deliver a new school from acquiring the years to deliver a new school from acquiring the land, years to deliver a new school from acquiring the land, designing years to deliver a new school from acquiring the land, designing the acquiring the land, designing the school, acquiring the land, designing the school, procuring acquiring the land, designing the school, procuring the acquiring the land, designing the school, procuring the construction school, procuring the construction through school, procuring the construction through to school, procuring the construction through to the school, procuring the construction through to the build school, procuring the construction through to the build process school, procuring the construction through to the build process itself. through to the build process itself. 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Mr Speaker, in Auckland alone schooling by 2030 in Auckland? Mr Speaker, in Auckland alone at schooling by 2030 in Auckland? 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Will he ensure that the planning for a rapid transit planning for a rapid transit corridor planning for a rapid transit corridor from planning for a rapid transit corridor from Botany planning for a rapid transit corridor from Botany to planning for a rapid transit corridor from Botany to the planning for a rapid transit corridor from Botany to the airport corridor from Botany to the airport is corridor from Botany to the airport is prioritised corridor from Botany to the airport is prioritised so corridor from Botany to the airport is prioritised so we corridor from Botany to the airport is prioritised so we don't corridor from Botany to the airport is prioritised so we don't have corridor from Botany to the airport is prioritised so we don't have a is prioritised so we don't have a repeat is prioritised so we don't have a repeat of is prioritised so we don't have a repeat of Eastern is prioritised so we don't have a repeat of Eastern Busway is prioritised so we don't have a repeat of Eastern Busway situation, repeat of Eastern Busway situation, whiz repeat of Eastern Busway situation, whiz will repeat of Eastern Busway situation, whiz will have repeat of Eastern Busway situation, whiz will have taken repeat of Eastern Busway situation, whiz will have taken 20 repeat of Eastern Busway situation, whiz will have taken 20 years repeat of Eastern Busway situation, whiz will have taken 20 years from whiz will have taken 20 years from first whiz will have taken 20 years from first being whiz will have taken 20 years from first being planned whiz will have taken 20 years from first being planned to whiz will have taken 20 years from first being planned to it first being planned to it completion? first being planned to it completion? 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So, putting in place additional lines, including place additional lines, including the place additional lines, including the city place additional lines, including the city centre place additional lines, including the city centre to place additional lines, including the city centre to managery place additional lines, including the city centre to managery and place additional lines, including the city centre to managery and city the city centre to managery and city centre the city centre to managery and city centre to the city centre to managery and city centre to the the city centre to managery and city centre to the north the city centre to managery and city centre to the north west the city centre to managery and city centre to the north west and the city centre to managery and city centre to the north west and airport centre to the north west and airport to centre to the north west and airport to Botany centre to the north west and airport to Botany are centre to the north west and airport to Botany are a centre to the north west and airport to Botany are a really centre to the north west and airport to Botany are a really important to Botany are a really important priority to Botany are a really important priority and to Botany are a really important priority and we to Botany are a really important priority and we are to Botany are a really important priority and we are going to Botany are a really important priority and we are going to to Botany are a really important priority and we are going to do priority and we are going to do everything priority and we are going to do everything that priority and we are going to do everything that we priority and we are going to do everything that we can priority and we are going to do everything that we can to priority and we are going to do everything that we can to ex priority and we are going to do everything that we can to ex ped everything that we can to ex ped diet everything that we can to ex ped diet them. everything that we can to ex ped diet them. Will everything that we can to ex ped diet them. Will he everything that we can to ex ped diet them. Will he support everything that we can to ex ped diet them. Will he support a diet them. Will he support a construction diet them. Will he support a construction start diet them. Will he support a construction start date diet them. Will he support a construction start date of diet them. Will he support a construction start date of 2025 diet them. Will he support a construction start date of 2025 for construction start date of 2025 for Botany construction start date of 2025 for Botany to construction start date of 2025 for Botany to airport construction start date of 2025 for Botany to airport rapid construction start date of 2025 for Botany to airport rapid transit Botany to airport rapid transit link, Botany to airport rapid transit link, which Botany to airport rapid transit link, which is Botany to airport rapid transit link, which is when Botany to airport rapid transit link, which is when the Botany to airport rapid transit link, which is when the Eastern link, which is when the Eastern Busway link, which is when the Eastern Busway project link, which is when the Eastern Busway project is link, which is when the Eastern Busway project is expected link, which is when the Eastern Busway project is expected to link, which is when the Eastern Busway project is expected to reach Busway project is expected to reach Botany Busway project is expected to reach Botany and Busway project is expected to reach Botany and be Busway project is expected to reach Botany and be completed? 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Well, I think - I appreciate the member's think - I appreciate the member's concern think - I appreciate the member's concern on think - I appreciate the member's concern on behalf think - I appreciate the member's concern on behalf of think - I appreciate the member's concern on behalf of his think - I appreciate the member's concern on behalf of his electorate concern on behalf of his electorate in concern on behalf of his electorate in this concern on behalf of his electorate in this matter, concern on behalf of his electorate in this matter, but concern on behalf of his electorate in this matter, but I concern on behalf of his electorate in this matter, but I think concern on behalf of his electorate in this matter, but I think it concern on behalf of his electorate in this matter, but I think it would in this matter, but I think it would be in this matter, but I think it would be jumping in this matter, but I think it would be jumping the in this matter, but I think it would be jumping the gun in this matter, but I think it would be jumping the gun to in this matter, but I think it would be jumping the gun to make in this matter, but I think it would be jumping the gun to make a be jumping the gun to make a commitment be jumping the gun to make a commitment of be jumping the gun to make a commitment of that be jumping the gun to make a commitment of that sort be jumping the gun to make a commitment of that sort before be jumping the gun to make a commitment of that sort before the commitment of that sort before the before commitment of that sort before the before case commitment of that sort before the before case has commitment of that sort before the before case has been commitment of that sort before the before case has been completed. before case has been completed. <SPEAKS before case has been completed. <SPEAKS TE before case has been completed. <SPEAKS TE REO before case has been completed. <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> . . 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It the worst served part making projects worst served part making projects like worst served part making projects like the worst served part making projects like the Amity worst served part making projects like the Amity busway worst served part making projects like the Amity busway absolutely like the Amity busway absolutely critical. like the Amity busway absolutely critical. It like the Amity busway absolutely critical. It will like the Amity busway absolutely critical. It will make like the Amity busway absolutely critical. It will make journeys critical. It will make journeys around critical. It will make journeys around eastern critical. It will make journeys around eastern Auckland critical. It will make journeys around eastern Auckland faster critical. It will make journeys around eastern Auckland faster and around eastern Auckland faster and more around eastern Auckland faster and more enjoyable around eastern Auckland faster and more enjoyable and around eastern Auckland faster and more enjoyable and others around eastern Auckland faster and more enjoyable and others 15 around eastern Auckland faster and more enjoyable and others 15 minutes more enjoyable and others 15 minutes faster more enjoyable and others 15 minutes faster and more enjoyable and others 15 minutes faster and allow more enjoyable and others 15 minutes faster and allow peak-hour more enjoyable and others 15 minutes faster and allow peak-hour travel more enjoyable and others 15 minutes faster and allow peak-hour travel by faster and allow peak-hour travel by bus faster and allow peak-hour travel by bus and faster and allow peak-hour travel by bus and train faster and allow peak-hour travel by bus and train between faster and allow peak-hour travel by bus and train between Botany faster and allow peak-hour travel by bus and train between Botany and bus and train between Botany and Britamart bus and train between Botany and Britamart in bus and train between Botany and Britamart in less bus and train between Botany and Britamart in less than bus and train between Botany and Britamart in less than 38 bus and train between Botany and Britamart in less than 38 minutes. 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Question No. 9, the Honourable during peak hours. Question No. 9, the Honourable Nikki during peak hours. Question No. 9, the Honourable Nikki Kaye. 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Request No. 10, Ginny Andersen. 10, Ginny Andersen. <SPEAKS 10, Ginny Andersen. <SPEAKS TE 10, Ginny Andersen. <SPEAKS TE REO 10, Ginny Andersen. <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Associate My question is to the Associate Minister My question is to the Associate Minister of My question is to the Associate Minister of Justice: Minister of Justice: My Minister of Justice: My question Minister of Justice: My question is Minister of Justice: My question is to Minister of Justice: My question is to the Minister of Justice: My question is to the Associate My question is to the Associate Minister My question is to the Associate Minister of My question is to the Associate Minister of Justice: Minister of Justice: What Minister of Justice: What recent Minister of Justice: What recent announcement Minister of Justice: What recent announcement has Minister of Justice: What recent announcement has he Minister of Justice: What recent announcement has he made What recent announcement has he made regarding What recent announcement has he made regarding the What recent announcement has he made regarding the Human What recent announcement has he made regarding the Human Rights What recent announcement has he made regarding the Human Rights Review regarding the Human Rights Review Tribunal? 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This government has taken action and has listened to the action and has listened to the concerns action and has listened to the concerns of action and has listened to the concerns of the action and has listened to the concerns of the public action and has listened to the concerns of the public by action and has listened to the concerns of the public by making action and has listened to the concerns of the public by making law concerns of the public by making law changes concerns of the public by making law changes to concerns of the public by making law changes to enable concerns of the public by making law changes to enable deputy concerns of the public by making law changes to enable deputy chairs concerns of the public by making law changes to enable deputy chairs to changes to enable deputy chairs to be changes to enable deputy chairs to be appointed, changes to enable deputy chairs to be appointed, which changes to enable deputy chairs to be appointed, which willise changes to enable deputy chairs to be appointed, which willise the changes to enable deputy chairs to be appointed, which willise the case be appointed, which willise the case backlog be appointed, which willise the case backlog of be appointed, which willise the case backlog of the be appointed, which willise the case backlog of the tribal be appointed, which willise the case backlog of the tribal and be appointed, which willise the case backlog of the tribal and provide backlog of the tribal and provide the backlog of the tribal and provide the public backlog of the tribal and provide the public with backlog of the tribal and provide the public with greater backlog of the tribal and provide the public with greater access backlog of the tribal and provide the public with greater access to the public with greater access to justice. the public with greater access to justice. 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My question 11, the Honourable Michael Woodhouse. is the Honourable Michael Woodhouse. is is the Honourable Michael Woodhouse. is is to the Honourable Michael Woodhouse. is is to the the Honourable Michael Woodhouse. is is to the Minister is to the Minister of is to the Minister of Health: of Health: Does of Health: Does he of Health: Does he agree of Health: Does he agree with of Health: Does he agree with Dunedin of Health: Does he agree with Dunedin North of Health: Does he agree with Dunedin North MP Does he agree with Dunedin North MP David Does he agree with Dunedin North MP David Clark, Does he agree with Dunedin North MP David Clark, who Does he agree with Dunedin North MP David Clark, who said Does he agree with Dunedin North MP David Clark, who said in Does he agree with Dunedin North MP David Clark, who said in 2017, David Clark, who said in 2017, "District David Clark, who said in 2017, "District Health David Clark, who said in 2017, "District Health Boards David Clark, who said in 2017, "District Health Boards this David Clark, who said in 2017, "District Health Boards this year "District Health Boards this year needed "District Health Boards this year needed at "District Health Boards this year needed at least "District Health Boards this year needed at least $650 "District Health Boards this year needed at least $650 million "District Health Boards this year needed at least $650 million to needed at least $650 million to stand needed at least $650 million to stand still needed at least $650 million to stand still but needed at least $650 million to stand still but they needed at least $650 million to stand still but they are needed at least $650 million to stand still but they are over needed at least $650 million to stand still but they are over $200 stand still but they are over $200 million stand still but they are over $200 million short stand still but they are over $200 million short of stand still but they are over $200 million short of what stand still but they are over $200 million short of what they stand still but they are over $200 million short of what they need"; million short of what they need"; if million short of what they need"; if not, million short of what they need"; if not, why million short of what they need"; if not, why not? <SPEAKS <SPEAKS TE <SPEAKS TE REO <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> . <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> . 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Mr Speaker, because the previous government systemically underfunded government systemically underfunded Health government systemically underfunded Health and government systemically underfunded Health and left government systemically underfunded Health and left behind government systemically underfunded Health and left behind it government systemically underfunded Health and left behind it a government systemically underfunded Health and left behind it a legacy Health and left behind it a legacy of Health and left behind it a legacy of overstretched Health and left behind it a legacy of overstretched services, of overstretched services, struggling of overstretched services, of of overstretched services, struggling to cope of overstretched services, struggling to cope with of overstretched services, struggling to cope with a of overstretched services, struggling to cope with a growing struggling to cope with a growing and struggling to cope with a growing and ageing struggling to cope with a growing and ageing population struggling to cope with a growing and ageing population of struggling to cope with a growing and ageing population of underpaid and ageing population of underpaid and and ageing population of underpaid and undervalued and ageing population of underpaid and undervalued doctors, and ageing population of underpaid and undervalued doctors, nurses and ageing population of underpaid and undervalued doctors, nurses and and undervalued doctors, nurses and allied and undervalued doctors, nurses and allied health and undervalued doctors, nurses and allied health workers and undervalued doctors, nurses and allied health workers of and undervalued doctors, nurses and allied health workers of ageing allied health workers of ageing hospital allied health workers of ageing hospital infrastructure, allied health workers of ageing hospital infrastructure, including hospital infrastructure, including leaky hospital infrastructure, including leaky buildings hospital infrastructure, including leaky buildings and hospital infrastructure, including leaky buildings and facilities hospital infrastructure, including leaky buildings and facilities that leaky buildings and facilities that are leaky buildings and facilities that are no leaky buildings and facilities that are no longer leaky buildings and facilities that are no longer fit leaky buildings and facilities that are no longer fit for leaky buildings and facilities that are no longer fit for purpose, leaky buildings and facilities that are no longer fit for purpose, the are no longer fit for purpose, the answer are no longer fit for purpose, the answer is are no longer fit for purpose, the answer is yes. are no longer fit for purpose, the answer is yes. This are no longer fit for purpose, the answer is yes. This government are no longer fit for purpose, the answer is yes. This government has answer is yes. This government has begun answer is yes. This government has begun the answer is yes. This government has begun the long answer is yes. This government has begun the long process answer is yes. This government has begun the long process of answer is yes. This government has begun the long process of rebuilding begun the long process of rebuilding our begun the long process of rebuilding our health begun the long process of rebuilding our health services, begun the long process of rebuilding our health services, but begun the long process of rebuilding our health services, but we begun the long process of rebuilding our health services, but we always our health services, but we always have our health services, but we always have said our health services, but we always have said it our health services, but we always have said it will our health services, but we always have said it will take our health services, but we always have said it will take more our health services, but we always have said it will take more than our health services, but we always have said it will take more than one have said it will take more than one budget. have said it will take more than one budget. Was have said it will take more than one budget. Was therefore have said it will take more than one budget. Was therefore disappointed budget. Was therefore disappointed that budget. Was therefore disappointed that the budget. Was therefore disappointed that the $744 budget. Was therefore disappointed that the $744 million budget. Was therefore disappointed that the $744 million he budget. Was therefore disappointed that the $744 million he succeeded that the $744 million he succeeded in that the $744 million he succeeded in scouring that the $744 million he succeeded in scouring for that the $744 million he succeeded in scouring for DHB that the $744 million he succeeded in scouring for DHB cost that the $744 million he succeeded in scouring for DHB cost pressures in scouring for DHB cost pressures in in scouring for DHB cost pressures in Budget in scouring for DHB cost pressures in Budget 2019 in scouring for DHB cost pressures in Budget 2019 compromises in scouring for DHB cost pressures in Budget 2019 compromises just in scouring for DHB cost pressures in Budget 2019 compromises just $94 in Budget 2019 compromises just $94 million in Budget 2019 compromises just $94 million more in Budget 2019 compromises just $94 million more than in Budget 2019 compromises just $94 million more than Dr in Budget 2019 compromises just $94 million more than Dr Clark in Budget 2019 compromises just $94 million more than Dr Clark said in Budget 2019 compromises just $94 million more than Dr Clark said was million more than Dr Clark said was needed million more than Dr Clark said was needed two million more than Dr Clark said was needed two years million more than Dr Clark said was needed two years ago? million more than Dr Clark said was needed two years ago? Mr million more than Dr Clark said was needed two years ago? Mr Speaker, needed two years ago? Mr Speaker, the needed two years ago? Mr Speaker, the member needed two years ago? Mr Speaker, the member will needed two years ago? Mr Speaker, the member will have needed two years ago? Mr Speaker, the member will have to needed two years ago? Mr Speaker, the member will have to wait needed two years ago? Mr Speaker, the member will have to wait for the member will have to wait for Budget the member will have to wait for Budget Day the member will have to wait for Budget Day for the member will have to wait for Budget Day for the the member will have to wait for Budget Day for the real the member will have to wait for Budget Day for the real picture. Budget Day for the real picture. Does Budget Day for the real picture. Does he Budget Day for the real picture. Does he suspect Budget Day for the real picture. Does he suspect that Budget Day for the real picture. Does he suspect that with Budget Day for the real picture. Does he suspect that with DHBs Does he suspect that with DHBs heading Does he suspect that with DHBs heading for Does he suspect that with DHBs heading for combined Does he suspect that with DHBs heading for combined deficits Does he suspect that with DHBs heading for combined deficits of heading for combined deficits of $500 heading for combined deficits of $500 million heading for combined deficits of $500 million or heading for combined deficits of $500 million or more heading for combined deficits of $500 million or more the heading for combined deficits of $500 million or more the Budget heading for combined deficits of $500 million or more the Budget 2019 $500 million or more the Budget 2019 appropriation $500 million or more the Budget 2019 appropriation of $500 million or more the Budget 2019 appropriation of 744 $500 million or more the Budget 2019 appropriation of 744 million $500 million or more the Budget 2019 appropriation of 744 million for $500 million or more the Budget 2019 appropriation of 744 million for DHB appropriation of 744 million for DHB cost appropriation of 744 million for DHB cost pressures appropriation of 744 million for DHB cost pressures will appropriation of 744 million for DHB cost pressures will fail appropriation of 744 million for DHB cost pressures will fail to appropriation of 744 million for DHB cost pressures will fail to keep cost pressures will fail to keep most cost pressures will fail to keep most DHBs cost pressures will fail to keep most DHBs out cost pressures will fail to keep most DHBs out of cost pressures will fail to keep most DHBs out of deficit cost pressures will fail to keep most DHBs out of deficit next cost pressures will fail to keep most DHBs out of deficit next year? most DHBs out of deficit next year? The most DHBs out of deficit next year? The current most DHBs out of deficit next year? The current combined most DHBs out of deficit next year? The current combined forecast The current combined forecast deficit The current combined forecast deficit is The current combined forecast deficit is $372 The current combined forecast deficit is $372 million The current combined forecast deficit is $372 million for The current combined forecast deficit is $372 million for DHBs The current combined forecast deficit is $372 million for DHBs and deficit is $372 million for DHBs and is deficit is $372 million for DHBs and is a deficit is $372 million for DHBs and is a direct deficit is $372 million for DHBs and is a direct legacy deficit is $372 million for DHBs and is a direct legacy of deficit is $372 million for DHBs and is a direct legacy of years deficit is $372 million for DHBs and is a direct legacy of years of is a direct legacy of years of underinvestment is a direct legacy of years of underinvestment in is a direct legacy of years of underinvestment in health is a direct legacy of years of underinvestment in health from is a direct legacy of years of underinvestment in health from the underinvestment in health from the previous underinvestment in health from the previous government. underinvestment in health from the previous government. I underinvestment in health from the previous government. I can't underinvestment in health from the previous government. I can't give previous government. I can't give forecasts previous government. I can't give forecasts ahead. previous government. I can't give forecasts ahead. Annual previous government. I can't give forecasts ahead. Annual planning previous government. I can't give forecasts ahead. Annual planning is forecasts ahead. Annual planning is still forecasts ahead. Annual planning is still in forecasts ahead. Annual planning is still in train forecasts ahead. Annual planning is still in train but forecasts ahead. Annual planning is still in train but it forecasts ahead. Annual planning is still in train but it is forecasts ahead. Annual planning is still in train but it is my forecasts ahead. Annual planning is still in train but it is my clear still in train but it is my clear expectation still in train but it is my clear expectation that still in train but it is my clear expectation that DHBs still in train but it is my clear expectation that DHBs demonstrate expectation that DHBs demonstrate they expectation that DHBs demonstrate they have expectation that DHBs demonstrate they have a expectation that DHBs demonstrate they have a plan expectation that DHBs demonstrate they have a plan to expectation that DHBs demonstrate they have a plan to return expectation that DHBs demonstrate they have a plan to return to they have a plan to return to financial they have a plan to return to financial stability they have a plan to return to financial stability while they have a plan to return to financial stability while at they have a plan to return to financial stability while at the financial stability while at the same financial stability while at the same time financial stability while at the same time continuing financial stability while at the same time continuing to financial stability while at the same time continuing to deliver same time continuing to deliver services same time continuing to deliver services that same time continuing to deliver services that New same time continuing to deliver services that New Zealanders same time continuing to deliver services that New Zealanders expect services that New Zealanders expect and services that New Zealanders expect and deserve. services that New Zealanders expect and deserve. Is services that New Zealanders expect and deserve. Is it services that New Zealanders expect and deserve. Is it expected services that New Zealanders expect and deserve. Is it expected that services that New Zealanders expect and deserve. Is it expected that the and deserve. Is it expected that the $744 and deserve. Is it expected that the $744 million and deserve. Is it expected that the $744 million for and deserve. Is it expected that the $744 million for DHBs and deserve. Is it expected that the $744 million for DHBs will and deserve. Is it expected that the $744 million for DHBs will cover and deserve. Is it expected that the $744 million for DHBs will cover the $744 million for DHBs will cover the Coalition $744 million for DHBs will cover the Coalition agreements's $744 million for DHBs will cover the Coalition agreements's commitment $744 million for DHBs will cover the Coalition agreements's commitment on Coalition agreements's commitment on a Coalition agreements's commitment on a free Coalition agreements's commitment on a free annual Coalition agreements's commitment on a free annual health Coalition agreements's commitment on a free annual health check Coalition agreements's commitment on a free annual health check for a free annual health check for seniors, a free annual health check for seniors, given a free annual health check for seniors, given that a free annual health check for seniors, given that the a free annual health check for seniors, given that the Budget a free annual health check for seniors, given that the Budget 2019 seniors, given that the Budget 2019 information seniors, given that the Budget 2019 information does seniors, given that the Budget 2019 information does not seniors, given that the Budget 2019 information does not have seniors, given that the Budget 2019 information does not have that seniors, given that the Budget 2019 information does not have that as seniors, given that the Budget 2019 information does not have that as a information does not have that as a separate information does not have that as a separate initiative? information does not have that as a separate initiative? Mr information does not have that as a separate initiative? Mr Speaker, information does not have that as a separate initiative? Mr Speaker, the separate initiative? Mr Speaker, the member separate initiative? Mr Speaker, the member will separate initiative? Mr Speaker, the member will have separate initiative? Mr Speaker, the member will have to separate initiative? Mr Speaker, the member will have to wait separate initiative? Mr Speaker, the member will have to wait for separate initiative? Mr Speaker, the member will have to wait for Budget member will have to wait for Budget Day member will have to wait for Budget Day for member will have to wait for Budget Day for the member will have to wait for Budget Day for the real member will have to wait for Budget Day for the real picture, member will have to wait for Budget Day for the real picture, but member will have to wait for Budget Day for the real picture, but what member will have to wait for Budget Day for the real picture, but what I Day for the real picture, but what I can Day for the real picture, but what I can tell Day for the real picture, but what I can tell him Day for the real picture, but what I can tell him is Day for the real picture, but what I can tell him is that Day for the real picture, but what I can tell him is that since Day for the real picture, but what I can tell him is that since we Day for the real picture, but what I can tell him is that since we took can tell him is that since we took office, can tell him is that since we took office, there can tell him is that since we took office, there are can tell him is that since we took office, there are 1,300 can tell him is that since we took office, there are 1,300 more can tell him is that since we took office, there are 1,300 more nurses office, there are 1,300 more nurses in office, there are 1,300 more nurses in this office, there are 1,300 more nurses in this country office, there are 1,300 more nurses in this country working office, there are 1,300 more nurses in this country working in office, there are 1,300 more nurses in this country working in our office, there are 1,300 more nurses in this country working in our DHB in this country working in our DHB system. in this country working in our DHB system. We in this country working in our DHB system. We have in this country working in our DHB system. We have reduced in this country working in our DHB system. We have reduced the in this country working in our DHB system. We have reduced the cost in this country working in our DHB system. We have reduced the cost of system. We have reduced the cost of visiting system. We have reduced the cost of visiting the system. We have reduced the cost of visiting the doctor system. We have reduced the cost of visiting the doctor for system. We have reduced the cost of visiting the doctor for community visiting the doctor for community service visiting the doctor for community service card visiting the doctor for community service card holders visiting the doctor for community service card holders by visiting the doctor for community service card holders by an visiting the doctor for community service card holders by an average service card holders by an average of service card holders by an average of $20-30 service card holders by an average of $20-30 for service card holders by an average of $20-30 for 540,000 service card holders by an average of $20-30 for 540,000 people. service card holders by an average of $20-30 for 540,000 people. We of $20-30 for 540,000 people. We have of $20-30 for 540,000 people. We have rolled of $20-30 for 540,000 people. We have rolled out of $20-30 for 540,000 people. We have rolled out nurses of $20-30 for 540,000 people. We have rolled out nurses in of $20-30 for 540,000 people. We have rolled out nurses in schools... have rolled out nurses in schools... Order. have rolled out nurses in schools... Order. Has have rolled out nurses in schools... Order. Has he have rolled out nurses in schools... Order. Has he heard have rolled out nurses in schools... Order. Has he heard today have rolled out nurses in schools... Order. Has he heard today from have rolled out nurses in schools... Order. Has he heard today from Bill Order. Has he heard today from Bill Rosenberg Order. Has he heard today from Bill Rosenberg who Order. Has he heard today from Bill Rosenberg who called Order. Has he heard today from Bill Rosenberg who called for Order. Has he heard today from Bill Rosenberg who called for operating Rosenberg who called for operating expenditure Rosenberg who called for operating expenditure to Rosenberg who called for operating expenditure to increase Rosenberg who called for operating expenditure to increase by Rosenberg who called for operating expenditure to increase by nearly expenditure to increase by nearly double expenditure to increase by nearly double the expenditure to increase by nearly double the $744 expenditure to increase by nearly double the $744 million expenditure to increase by nearly double the $744 million expressing double the $744 million expressing his double the $744 million expressing his disappointment? double the $744 million expressing his disappointment? Mr double the $744 million expressing his disappointment? Mr Speaker, double the $744 million expressing his disappointment? Mr Speaker, I his disappointment? Mr Speaker, I have his disappointment? Mr Speaker, I have not his disappointment? Mr Speaker, I have not looked his disappointment? Mr Speaker, I have not looked in his disappointment? Mr Speaker, I have not looked in detail his disappointment? Mr Speaker, I have not looked in detail at his disappointment? Mr Speaker, I have not looked in detail at the his disappointment? Mr Speaker, I have not looked in detail at the CTU have not looked in detail at the CTU as have not looked in detail at the CTU as most have not looked in detail at the CTU as most recent have not looked in detail at the CTU as most recent analysis, have not looked in detail at the CTU as most recent analysis, however have not looked in detail at the CTU as most recent analysis, however I as most recent analysis, however I do as most recent analysis, however I do know as most recent analysis, however I do know that as most recent analysis, however I do know that it as most recent analysis, however I do know that it has as most recent analysis, however I do know that it has consistently do know that it has consistently shown do know that it has consistently shown that do know that it has consistently shown that health do know that it has consistently shown that health has do know that it has consistently shown that health has been shown that health has been underfunded shown that health has been underfunded over shown that health has been underfunded over the shown that health has been underfunded over the last shown that health has been underfunded over the last decade. underfunded over the last decade. This underfunded over the last decade. This government underfunded over the last decade. This government is underfunded over the last decade. This government is committed underfunded over the last decade. This government is committed to This government is committed to better This government is committed to better are This government is committed to better are sourcing, This government is committed to better are sourcing, sustainably better are sourcing, sustainably funded better are sourcing, sustainably funded health better are sourcing, sustainably funded health services, better are sourcing, sustainably funded health services, but, better are sourcing, sustainably funded health services, but, as better are sourcing, sustainably funded health services, but, as I funded health services, but, as I have funded health services, but, as I have said funded health services, but, as I have said many funded health services, but, as I have said many times, funded health services, but, as I have said many times, it funded health services, but, as I have said many times, it will funded health services, but, as I have said many times, it will take have said many times, it will take time have said many times, it will take time to have said many times, it will take time to make have said many times, it will take time to make up have said many times, it will take time to make up for have said many times, it will take time to make up for nine have said many times, it will take time to make up for nine long have said many times, it will take time to make up for nine long years time to make up for nine long years of time to make up for nine long years of neglect. time to make up for nine long years of neglect. Question time to make up for nine long years of neglect. Question No. time to make up for nine long years of neglect. Question No. 12, time to make up for nine long years of neglect. Question No. 12, Hamish of neglect. Question No. 12, Hamish Walker. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Health: Health: Is Health: Is he Health: Is he satisfied Health: Is he satisfied an Health: Is he satisfied an appropriate Is he satisfied an appropriate standard Is he satisfied an appropriate standard of Is he satisfied an appropriate standard of maternity Is he satisfied an appropriate standard of maternity care Is he satisfied an appropriate standard of maternity care is standard of maternity care is available standard of maternity care is available to standard of maternity care is available to keep standard of maternity care is available to keep mothers available to keep mothers and available to keep mothers and new available to keep mothers and new babies available to keep mothers and new babies safe available to keep mothers and new babies safe in available to keep mothers and new babies safe in northern and new babies safe in northern Southland and new babies safe in northern Southland following and new babies safe in northern Southland following a and new babies safe in northern Southland following a region-wide Southland following a region-wide review Southland following a region-wide review of Southland following a region-wide review of maternity Southland following a region-wide review of maternity services? The The Honourable The Honourable Dr The Honourable Dr David The Honourable Dr David Clark. The Honourable Dr David Clark. Mr The Honourable Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, The Honourable Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, given The Honourable Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, given the The Honourable Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, given the strength The Honourable Dr David Clark. Mr Speaker, given the strength of Speaker, given the strength of community Speaker, given the strength of community feeling Speaker, given the strength of community feeling on Speaker, given the strength of community feeling on this Speaker, given the strength of community feeling on this matter, Speaker, given the strength of community feeling on this matter, I community feeling on this matter, I asked community feeling on this matter, I asked the community feeling on this matter, I asked the Ministry community feeling on this matter, I asked the Ministry of community feeling on this matter, I asked the Ministry of Health community feeling on this matter, I asked the Ministry of Health experts asked the Ministry of Health experts to asked the Ministry of Health experts to review asked the Ministry of Health experts to review Southland asked the Ministry of Health experts to review Southland DHB's asked the Ministry of Health experts to review Southland DHB's position to review Southland DHB's position to to review Southland DHB's position to provide to review Southland DHB's position to provide me to review Southland DHB's position to provide me with to review Southland DHB's position to provide me with assurance to review Southland DHB's position to provide me with assurance that to provide me with assurance that mothers to provide me with assurance that mothers and to provide me with assurance that mothers and babies to provide me with assurance that mothers and babies will to provide me with assurance that mothers and babies will is mothers and babies will is high-quality mothers and babies will is high-quality care mothers and babies will is high-quality care they mothers and babies will is high-quality care they deserve. mothers and babies will is high-quality care they deserve. I high-quality care they deserve. I received high-quality care they deserve. I received that high-quality care they deserve. I received that assurance. high-quality care they deserve. I received that assurance. I high-quality care they deserve. I received that assurance. I am high-quality care they deserve. I received that assurance. I am aware received that assurance. I am aware of received that assurance. I am aware of concerns received that assurance. I am aware of concerns from received that assurance. I am aware of concerns from the received that assurance. I am aware of concerns from the community received that assurance. I am aware of concerns from the community that of concerns from the community that Southern of concerns from the community that Southern DHB of concerns from the community that Southern DHB is of concerns from the community that Southern DHB is yet of concerns from the community that Southern DHB is yet to of concerns from the community that Southern DHB is yet to implement of concerns from the community that Southern DHB is yet to implement the Southern DHB is yet to implement the new Southern DHB is yet to implement the new level Southern DHB is yet to implement the new level of Southern DHB is yet to implement the new level of care Southern DHB is yet to implement the new level of care as Southern DHB is yet to implement the new level of care as promised. Southern DHB is yet to implement the new level of care as promised. I new level of care as promised. I have new level of care as promised. I have discussed new level of care as promised. I have discussed these new level of care as promised. I have discussed these concerns new level of care as promised. I have discussed these concerns with have discussed these concerns with DHB have discussed these concerns with DHB leadership have discussed these concerns with DHB leadership and have discussed these concerns with DHB leadership and made have discussed these concerns with DHB leadership and made my DHB leadership and made my expectations DHB leadership and made my expectations clear DHB leadership and made my expectations clear that DHB leadership and made my expectations clear that where DHB leadership and made my expectations clear that where there expectations clear that where there is expectations clear that where there is evidence expectations clear that where there is evidence standards expectations clear that where there is evidence standards of expectations clear that where there is evidence standards of care expectations clear that where there is evidence standards of care are is evidence standards of care are falling is evidence standards of care are falling short is evidence standards of care are falling short the is evidence standards of care are falling short the DHB is evidence standards of care are falling short the DHB must is evidence standards of care are falling short the DHB must take falling short the DHB must take action. falling short the DHB must take action. It falling short the DHB must take action. It is falling short the DHB must take action. It is my falling short the DHB must take action. It is my intention falling short the DHB must take action. It is my intention to action. It is my intention to discuss action. It is my intention to discuss these action. It is my intention to discuss these issues action. It is my intention to discuss these issues further action. It is my intention to discuss these issues further with discuss these issues further with the discuss these issues further with the DHB discuss these issues further with the DHB until discuss these issues further with the DHB until I discuss these issues further with the DHB until I am discuss these issues further with the DHB until I am happy discuss these issues further with the DHB until I am happy they discuss these issues further with the DHB until I am happy they are the DHB until I am happy they are delivering the DHB until I am happy they are delivering the the DHB until I am happy they are delivering the high-quality delivering the high-quality maternity delivering the high-quality maternity care delivering the high-quality maternity care expected. delivering the high-quality maternity care expected. What maternity care expected. What actions, maternity care expected. What actions, if maternity care expected. What actions, if any, maternity care expected. What actions, if any, did maternity care expected. What actions, if any, did he maternity care expected. What actions, if any, did he take maternity care expected. What actions, if any, did he take after actions, if any, did he take after my actions, if any, did he take after my letter actions, if any, did he take after my letter dated actions, if any, did he take after my letter dated 9 actions, if any, did he take after my letter dated 9 May, actions, if any, did he take after my letter dated 9 May, 2019 my letter dated 9 May, 2019 outlining my letter dated 9 May, 2019 outlining my my letter dated 9 May, 2019 outlining my grave my letter dated 9 May, 2019 outlining my grave concerns outlining my grave concerns regarding outlining my grave concerns regarding the outlining my grave concerns regarding the incredibly outlining my grave concerns regarding the incredibly high outlining my grave concerns regarding the incredibly high risk regarding the incredibly high risk to regarding the incredibly high risk to the regarding the incredibly high risk to the north regarding the incredibly high risk to the north and regarding the incredibly high risk to the north and Southland regarding the incredibly high risk to the north and Southland community to the north and Southland community as to the north and Southland community as the to the north and Southland community as the lumps to the north and Southland community as the lumps den to the north and Southland community as the lumps den and to the north and Southland community as the lumps den and Teanou to the north and Southland community as the lumps den and Teanou maternal as the lumps den and Teanou maternal hubs as the lumps den and Teanou maternal hubs weren't as the lumps den and Teanou maternal hubs weren't up as the lumps den and Teanou maternal hubs weren't up and as the lumps den and Teanou maternal hubs weren't up and running as the lumps den and Teanou maternal hubs weren't up and running nearly as the lumps den and Teanou maternal hubs weren't up and running nearly a hubs weren't up and running nearly a month hubs weren't up and running nearly a month after hubs weren't up and running nearly a month after they hubs weren't up and running nearly a month after they were hubs weren't up and running nearly a month after they were promised? hubs weren't up and running nearly a month after they were promised? Mr month after they were promised? Mr Speaker, month after they were promised? Mr Speaker, this month after they were promised? Mr Speaker, this is month after they were promised? Mr Speaker, this is a month after they were promised? Mr Speaker, this is a matter month after they were promised? Mr Speaker, this is a matter that month after they were promised? Mr Speaker, this is a matter that I Speaker, this is a matter that I have Speaker, this is a matter that I have been Speaker, this is a matter that I have been interested Speaker, this is a matter that I have been interested in Speaker, this is a matter that I have been interested in and Speaker, this is a matter that I have been interested in and have have been interested in and have been have been interested in and have been following have been interested in and have been following closely have been interested in and have been following closely for have been interested in and have been following closely for some been following closely for some time. been following closely for some time. I been following closely for some time. I have been following closely for some time. I have been been following closely for some time. I have been very been following closely for some time. I have been very keen been following closely for some time. I have been very keen to been following closely for some time. I have been very keen to make time. I have been very keen to make sure time. I have been very keen to make sure that time. I have been very keen to make sure that I time. I have been very keen to make sure that I have time. I have been very keen to make sure that I have the time. I have been very keen to make sure that I have the reassurance sure that I have the reassurance that sure that I have the reassurance that mothers sure that I have the reassurance that mothers and sure that I have the reassurance that mothers and babies sure that I have the reassurance that mothers and babies would that mothers and babies would continue that mothers and babies would continue to that mothers and babies would continue to receive that mothers and babies would continue to receive the that mothers and babies would continue to receive the high-quality continue to receive the high-quality care continue to receive the high-quality care they continue to receive the high-quality care they deserve. continue to receive the high-quality care they deserve. I continue to receive the high-quality care they deserve. I have continue to receive the high-quality care they deserve. I have received care they deserve. I have received representations care they deserve. I have received representations from care they deserve. I have received representations from Liz care they deserve. I have received representations from Liz Craig care they deserve. I have received representations from Liz Craig and representations from Liz Craig and Mark representations from Liz Craig and Mark Patterson, representations from Liz Craig and Mark Patterson, concerned representations from Liz Craig and Mark Patterson, concerned local representations from Liz Craig and Mark Patterson, concerned local MPs. Mark Patterson, concerned local MPs. No Mark Patterson, concerned local MPs. No respect Mark Patterson, concerned local MPs. No respect of Mark Patterson, concerned local MPs. No respect of his Mark Patterson, concerned local MPs. No respect of his particular Mark Patterson, concerned local MPs. 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There was some degree of why personably in it but I have why personably in it but I have taken why personably in it but I have taken the why personably in it but I have taken the concerns why personably in it but I have taken the concerns seriously why personably in it but I have taken the concerns seriously as why personably in it but I have taken the concerns seriously as they taken the concerns seriously as they have taken the concerns seriously as they have been taken the concerns seriously as they have been raised taken the concerns seriously as they have been raised with taken the concerns seriously as they have been raised with me taken the concerns seriously as they have been raised with me and taken the concerns seriously as they have been raised with me and I taken the concerns seriously as they have been raised with me and I have have been raised with me and I have discussed have been raised with me and I have discussed the have been raised with me and I have discussed the concerns have been raised with me and I have discussed the concerns with have been raised with me and I have discussed the concerns with the have been raised with me and I have discussed the concerns with the DHB discussed the concerns with the DHB leadership discussed the concerns with the DHB leadership and discussed the concerns with the DHB leadership and made discussed the concerns with the DHB leadership and made my discussed the concerns with the DHB leadership and made my expectations leadership and made my expectations clear leadership and made my expectations clear that leadership and made my expectations clear that where leadership and made my expectations clear that where there leadership and made my expectations clear that where there is leadership and made my expectations clear that where there is evidence clear that where there is evidence they clear that where there is evidence they are clear that where there is evidence they are falling clear that where there is evidence they are falling short clear that where there is evidence they are falling short the clear that where there is evidence they are falling short the DHB clear that where there is evidence they are falling short the DHB mus they are falling short the DHB mus take they are falling short the DHB mus take action. they are falling short the DHB mus take action. 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If he is suggesting that the care being rolled out that the care being rolled out across that the care being rolled out across Southland that the care being rolled out across Southland and that the care being rolled out across Southland and Waitaki that the care being rolled out across Southland and Waitaki that that the care being rolled out across Southland and Waitaki that is across Southland and Waitaki that is delivering across Southland and Waitaki that is delivering more across Southland and Waitaki that is delivering more services across Southland and Waitaki that is delivering more services to across Southland and Waitaki that is delivering more services to more delivering more services to more people delivering more services to more people should delivering more services to more people should be delivering more services to more people should be rolled delivering more services to more people should be rolled out delivering more services to more people should be rolled out and, people should be rolled out and, indeed, people should be rolled out and, indeed, we people should be rolled out and, indeed, we should people should be rolled out and, indeed, we should return people should be rolled out and, indeed, we should return to people should be rolled out and, indeed, we should return to the indeed, we should return to the situation indeed, we should return to the situation under indeed, we should return to the situation under Te indeed, we should return to the situation under Te national situation under Te national government situation under Te national government where situation under Te national government where there situation under Te national government where there were situation under Te national government where there were fewer government where there were fewer services government where there were fewer services for government where there were fewer services for those government where there were fewer services for those constituents, government where there were fewer services for those constituents, I services for those constituents, I wish services for those constituents, I wish him services for those constituents, I wish him well services for those constituents, I wish him well at services for those constituents, I wish him well at the services for those constituents, I wish him well at the next services for those constituents, I wish him well at the next election. wish him well at the next election. 8 wish him well at the next election. 8 Does wish him well at the next election. 8 Does the wish him well at the next election. 8 Does the minister wish him well at the next election. 8 Does the minister grow wish him well at the next election. 8 Does the minister grow with wish him well at the next election. 8 Does the minister grow with the 8 Does the minister grow with the chief 8 Does the minister grow with the chief executive 8 Does the minister grow with the chief executive of 8 Does the minister grow with the chief executive of the 8 Does the minister grow with the chief executive of the southern 8 Does the minister grow with the chief executive of the southern DHB chief executive of the southern DHB that chief executive of the southern DHB that it chief executive of the southern DHB that it is chief executive of the southern DHB that it is quite chief executive of the southern DHB that it is quite acceptable chief executive of the southern DHB that it is quite acceptable for that it is quite acceptable for rural that it is quite acceptable for rural mums that it is quite acceptable for rural mums to that it is quite acceptable for rural mums to have that it is quite acceptable for rural mums to have their that it is quite acceptable for rural mums to have their babies that it is quite acceptable for rural mums to have their babies in rural mums to have their babies in an rural mums to have their babies in an ambulance rural mums to have their babies in an ambulance on rural mums to have their babies in an ambulance on the rural mums to have their babies in an ambulance on the side rural mums to have their babies in an ambulance on the side of rural mums to have their babies in an ambulance on the side of the an ambulance on the side of the road? an ambulance on the side of the road? I an ambulance on the side of the road? I am an ambulance on the side of the road? I am advised an ambulance on the side of the road? I am advised by an ambulance on the side of the road? I am advised by the an ambulance on the side of the road? I am advised by the board an ambulance on the side of the road? I am advised by the board that road? I am advised by the board that a road? I am advised by the board that a mother road? I am advised by the board that a mother gave road? I am advised by the board that a mother gave birth road? I am advised by the board that a mother gave birth in road? I am advised by the board that a mother gave birth in an road? I am advised by the board that a mother gave birth in an ambulance a mother gave birth in an ambulance in a mother gave birth in an ambulance in a a mother gave birth in an ambulance in a well-equipped a mother gave birth in an ambulance in a well-equipped ambulance a mother gave birth in an ambulance in a well-equipped ambulance en in a well-equipped ambulance en route in a well-equipped ambulance en route to in a well-equipped ambulance en route to south in a well-equipped ambulance en route to south south in a well-equipped ambulance en route to south south hospital. in a well-equipped ambulance en route to south south hospital. I in a well-equipped ambulance en route to south south hospital. I am route to south south hospital. I am pleased route to south south hospital. I am pleased the route to south south hospital. I am pleased the mother route to south south hospital. I am pleased the mother and route to south south hospital. I am pleased the mother and baby route to south south hospital. I am pleased the mother and baby are pleased the mother and baby are doing pleased the mother and baby are doing well. pleased the mother and baby are doing well. It pleased the mother and baby are doing well. It would pleased the mother and baby are doing well. It would seem pleased the mother and baby are doing well. It would seem to pleased the mother and baby are doing well. It would seem to system doing well. It would seem to system of doing well. It would seem to system of care doing well. It would seem to system of care worked doing well. It would seem to system of care worked appropriately doing well. It would seem to system of care worked appropriately in doing well. It would seem to system of care worked appropriately in this of care worked appropriately in this circumstance, of care worked appropriately in this circumstance, but of care worked appropriately in this circumstance, but I of care worked appropriately in this circumstance, but I am of care worked appropriately in this circumstance, but I am pleased of care worked appropriately in this circumstance, but I am pleased that circumstance, but I am pleased that the circumstance, but I am pleased that the DHB circumstance, but I am pleased that the DHB is circumstance, but I am pleased that the DHB is reviewing circumstance, but I am pleased that the DHB is reviewing the circumstance, but I am pleased that the DHB is reviewing the incident. the DHB is reviewing the incident. Will the DHB is reviewing the incident. Will the the DHB is reviewing the incident. Will the government the DHB is reviewing the incident. Will the government commit the DHB is reviewing the incident. Will the government commit to Will the government commit to reopening Will the government commit to reopening the Will the government commit to reopening the Lumsden Will the government commit to reopening the Lumsden maternity reopening the Lumsden maternity hospital reopening the Lumsden maternity Will reopening the Lumsden maternity hospital after the reopening the Lumsden maternity hospital after the close reopening the Lumsden maternity hospital after the close call reopening the Lumsden maternity hospital after the close call at reopening the Lumsden maternity hospital after the close call at the hospital after the close call at the weekend hospital after the close call at the weekend with hospital after the close call at the weekend with a hospital after the close call at the weekend with a mum hospital after the close call at the weekend with a mum giving hospital after the close call at the weekend with a mum giving birth hospital after the close call at the weekend with a mum giving birth on weekend with a mum giving birth on the weekend with a mum giving birth on the side weekend with a mum giving birth on the side of weekend with a mum giving birth on the side of the weekend with a mum giving birth on the side of the road weekend with a mum giving birth on the side of the road and weekend with a mum giving birth on the side of the road and this weekend with a mum giving birth on the side of the road and this week's the side of the road and this week's budget the side of the road and this week's budget focused the side of the road and this week's budget focused on the side of the road and this week's budget focused on well the side of the road and this week's budget focused on well besting? the side of the road and this week's budget focused on well besting? Mr budget focused on well besting? Mr Speaker, budget focused on well besting? Mr Speaker, I budget focused on well besting? Mr Speaker, I do budget focused on well besting? Mr Speaker, I do reject budget focused on well besting? Mr Speaker, I do reject the budget focused on well besting? Mr Speaker, I do reject the assertions Speaker, I do reject the assertions in Speaker, I do reject the assertions in that Speaker, I do reject the assertions in that member Speaker, I do reject the assertions in that member as Speaker, I do reject the assertions in that member as question. Speaker, I do reject the assertions in that member as question. The in that member as question. The Ministry in that member as question. The Ministry of in that member as question. The Ministry of Health in that member as question. The Ministry of Health has in that member as question. The Ministry of Health has assured in that member as question. The Ministry of Health has assured me Ministry of Health has assured me that Ministry of Health has assured me that the Ministry of Health has assured me that the Southern Ministry of Health has assured me that the Southern DHB Ministry of Health has assured me that the Southern DHB has Ministry of Health has assured me that the Southern DHB has met Ministry of Health has assured me that the Southern DHB has met the that the Southern DHB has met the requirement that the Southern DHB has met the requirement of that the Southern DHB has met the requirement of the that the Southern DHB has met the requirement of the service that the Southern DHB has met the requirement of the service cover requirement of the service cover arrange requirement of the service cover arrange schedule requirement of the service cover arrange schedule for requirement of the service cover arrange schedule for maternity requirement of the service cover arrange schedule for maternity care arrange schedule for maternity care in arrange schedule for maternity care in designing arrange schedule for maternity care in designing their arrange schedule for maternity care in designing their primary arrange schedule for maternity care in designing their primary maternity in designing their primary maternity care in designing their primary maternity care system in designing their primary maternity care system of in designing their primary maternity care system of care in designing their primary maternity care system of care and in designing their primary maternity care system of care and maternal in designing their primary maternity care system of care and maternal and care system of care and maternal and child care system of care and maternal and child hubs care system of care and maternal and child hubs I care system of care and maternal and child hubs I am care system of care and maternal and child hubs I am confident care system of care and maternal and child hubs I am confident that care system of care and maternal and child hubs I am confident that the child hubs I am confident that the sound child hubs I am confident that the sound DHB child hubs I am confident that the sound DHB has child hubs I am confident that the sound DHB has designed child hubs I am confident that the sound DHB has designed a child hubs I am confident that the sound DHB has designed a good child hubs I am confident that the sound DHB has designed a good system sound DHB has designed a good system of sound DHB has designed a good system of maternity sound DHB has designed a good system of maternity care sound DHB has designed a good system of maternity care across sound DHB has designed a good system of maternity care across it of maternity care across it district. of maternity care across it district. The of maternity care across it district. The result of maternity care across it district. The result is of maternity care across it district. The result is five district. The result is five maternal district. The result is five maternal and district. The result is five maternal and child district. The result is five maternal and child hubs, district. The result is five maternal and child hubs, including maternal and child hubs, including new maternal and child hubs, including new services maternal and child hubs, including new services in maternal and child hubs, including new services in teeian maternal and child hubs, including new services in teeian know maternal and child hubs, including new services in teeian know and maternal and child hubs, including new services in teeian know and want new services in teeian know and want Nikka. new services in teeian know and want Nikka. Six new services in teeian know and want Nikka. Six birthing new services in teeian know and want Nikka. Six birthing units new services in teeian know and want Nikka. Six birthing units and Nikka. Six birthing units and tertiary Nikka. Six birthing units and tertiary services. Nikka. Six birthing units and tertiary services. I Nikka. Six birthing units and tertiary services. I am Nikka. Six birthing units and tertiary services. I am disappointed tertiary services. I am disappointed that tertiary services. I am disappointed that not tertiary services. I am disappointed that not all tertiary services. I am disappointed that not all of tertiary services. I am disappointed that not all of the tertiary services. I am disappointed that not all of the new tertiary services. I am disappointed that not all of the new services that not all of the new services have that not all of the new services have been that not all of the new services have been fully that not all of the new services have been fully rolled that not all of the new services have been fully rolled out that not all of the new services have been fully rolled out yet. that not all of the new services have been fully rolled out yet. I have been fully rolled out yet. I have have been fully rolled out yet. I have made have been fully rolled out yet. I have made that have been fully rolled out yet. I have made that disappointment have been fully rolled out yet. I have made that disappointment clear have made that disappointment clear to have made that disappointment clear to the have made that disappointment clear to the DHB have made that disappointment clear to the DHB and have made that disappointment clear to the DHB and I have made that disappointment clear to the DHB and I have have made that disappointment clear to the DHB and I have asked have made that disappointment clear to the DHB and I have asked hem have made that disappointment clear to the DHB and I have asked hem to to the DHB and I have asked hem to provide to the DHB and I have asked hem to provide me to the DHB and I have asked hem to provide me with to the DHB and I have asked hem to provide me with aSeans to the DHB and I have asked hem to provide me with aSeans that to the DHB and I have asked hem to provide me with aSeans that those provide me with aSeans that those services provide me with aSeans that those services will provide me with aSeans that those services will be provide me with aSeans that those services will be nully provide me with aSeans that those services will be nully in provide me with aSeans that those services will be nully in place provide me with aSeans that those services will be nully in place soon services will be nully in place soon and services will be nully in place soon and a services will be nully in place soon and a detailed services will be nully in place soon and a detailed timeline. services will be nully in place soon and a detailed timeline. The services will be nully in place soon and a detailed timeline. The chief and a detailed timeline. The chief executive and a detailed timeline. The chief executive has and a detailed timeline. The chief executive has announced and a detailed timeline. The chief executive has announced many and a detailed timeline. The chief executive has announced many they executive has announced many they are executive has announced many they are continuously executive has announced many they are continuously monitoring executive has announced many they are continuously monitoring the executive has announced many they are continuously monitoring the of are continuously monitoring the of this are continuously monitoring the of this service are continuously monitoring the of this service and are continuously monitoring the of this service and are are continuously monitoring the of this service and are working are continuously monitoring the of this service and are working closely this service and are working closely with this service and are working closely with the this service and are working closely with the Minister this service and are working closely with the Minister of this service and are working closely with the Minister of Health this service and are working closely with the Minister of Health on this service and are working closely with the Minister of Health on the with the Minister of Health on the matterment with the Minister of Health on the matterment I with the Minister of Health on the matterment I will with the Minister of Health on the matterment I will be with the Minister of Health on the matterment I will be holding with the Minister of Health on the matterment I will be holding the matterment I will be holding the chair matterment I will be holding the chair of matterment I will be holding the chair of the matterment I will be holding the chair of the DHB matterment I will be holding the chair of the DHB or matterment I will be holding the chair of the DHB or the matterment I will be holding the chair of the DHB or the commissioner chair of the DHB or the commissioner accountable chair of the DHB or the commissioner accountable for chair of the DHB or the commissioner accountable for delivering chair of the DHB or the commissioner accountable for delivering what chair of the DHB or the commissioner accountable for delivering what has accountable for delivering what has been accountable for delivering what has been promised. accountable for delivering what has been promised. Order, accountable for delivering what has been promised. Order, Mr accountable for delivering what has been promised. Order, Mr Speaker. accountable for delivering what has been promised. Order, Mr Speaker. A been promised. Order, Mr Speaker. A point been promised. Order, Mr Speaker. A point of been promised. Order, Mr Speaker. A point of order, been promised. Order, Mr Speaker. A point of order, Hamish been promised. Order, Mr Speaker. A point of order, Hamish Walker. been promised. Order, Mr Speaker. A point of order, Hamish Walker. My point of order, Hamish Walker. My question point of order, Hamish Walker. My question was point of order, Hamish Walker. My question was very, point of order, Hamish Walker. My question was very, very point of order, Hamish Walker. My question was very, very simple: point of order, Hamish Walker. My question was very, very simple: Will question was very, very simple: Will this question was very, very simple: Will this government question was very, very simple: Will this government reopen question was very, very simple: Will this government reopen the question was very, very simple: Will this government reopen the Lumsdon this government reopen the Lumsdon maternity this government reopen the Lumsdon maternity hospital, this government reopen the Lumsdon maternity hospital, yes this government reopen the Lumsdon maternity hospital, yes or this government reopen the Lumsdon maternity hospital, yes or no? this government reopen the Lumsdon maternity hospital, yes or no? Well, maternity hospital, yes or no? Well, the maternity hospital, yes or no? Well, the minister maternity hospital, yes or no? Well, the minister is maternity hospital, yes or no? Well, the minister is relatively maternity hospital, yes or no? Well, the minister is relatively new, maternity hospital, yes or no? Well, the minister is relatively new, but the minister is relatively new, but not the minister is relatively new, but not absolutely the minister is relatively new, but not absolutely new the minister is relatively new, but not absolutely new member the minister is relatively new, but not absolutely new member and the minister is relatively new, but not absolutely new member and he not absolutely new member and he should not absolutely new member and he should no not absolutely new member and he should no that not absolutely new member and he should no that members not absolutely new member and he should no that members can't not absolutely new member and he should no that members can't insist should no that members can't insist on should no that members can't insist on yes-no should no that members can't insist on yes-no answers should no that members can't insist on yes-no answers to should no that members can't insist on yes-no answers to questions. should no that members can't insist on yes-no answers to questions. As on yes-no answers to questions. As to on yes-no answers to questions. As to whether on yes-no answers to questions. As to whether the on yes-no answers to questions. As to whether the question on yes-no answers to questions. As to whether the question was to whether the question was addressed to whether the question was addressed or to whether the question was addressed or not, to whether the question was addressed or not, then to whether the question was addressed or not, then I to whether the question was addressed or not, then I think to whether the question was addressed or not, then I think it addressed or not, then I think it was addressed or not, then I think it was a addressed or not, then I think it was a bit addressed or not, then I think it was a bit like addressed or not, then I think it was a bit like an addressed or not, then I think it was a bit like an earlier addressed or not, then I think it was a bit like an earlier one, addressed or not, then I think it was a bit like an earlier one, it was a bit like an earlier one, it could was a bit like an earlier one, it could well was a bit like an earlier one, it could well have was a bit like an earlier one, it could well have been was a bit like an earlier one, it could well have been over was a bit like an earlier one, it could well have been over addressed. could well have been over addressed. 171 could well have been over addressed. <4> <4> Is <4> Is the <4> Is the speaker <4> Is the speaker as <4> Is the speaker as ruling <4> Is the speaker as ruling that <4> Is the speaker as ruling that he Is the speaker as ruling that he should Is the speaker as ruling that he should look Is the speaker as ruling that he should look at Is the speaker as ruling that he should look at to Is the speaker as ruling that he should look at to educate Is the speaker as ruling that he should look at to educate himself. should look at to educate himself. 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Was the birth in question on the side of the birth in question on the side of the the birth in question on the side of the road the birth in question on the side of the road or the birth in question on the side of the road or in the birth in question on the side of the road or in an the birth in question on the side of the road or in an ambulance? the birth in question on the side of the road or in an ambulance? I the birth in question on the side of the road or in an ambulance? I am the road or in an ambulance? I am advised the road or in an ambulance? I am advised that the road or in an ambulance? I am advised that the the road or in an ambulance? I am advised that the birth the road or in an ambulance? I am advised that the birth took the road or in an ambulance? I am advised that the birth took place the road or in an ambulance? I am advised that the birth took place in advised that the birth took place in an advised that the birth took place in an ambulance advised that the birth took place in an ambulance with advised that the birth took place in an ambulance with support advised that the birth took place in an ambulance with support as an ambulance with support as appropriate. an ambulance with support as appropriate. Clearly, an ambulance with support as appropriate. Clearly, the an ambulance with support as appropriate. Clearly, the midwife appropriate. Clearly, the midwife herself appropriate. Clearly, the midwife herself had appropriate. Clearly, the midwife herself had chosen appropriate. Clearly, the midwife herself had chosen to appropriate. Clearly, the midwife herself had chosen to go appropriate. Clearly, the midwife herself had chosen to go to appropriate. 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