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Parliament TV provides live broadcasts from the House of Representatives. Coverage: Questions for Oral Answer.

Primary Title
  • Parliament TV: Questions for Oral Answer
Date Broadcast
  • Tuesday 24 September 2019
Start Time
  • 14 : 00
Finish Time
  • 15 : 30
Duration
  • 90:00
Channel
  • Parliament TV
Broadcaster
  • Kordia
Programme Description
  • Parliament TV provides live broadcasts from the House of Representatives. Coverage: Questions for Oral Answer.
Classification
  • Not Classified
Owning Collection
  • Chapman Archive
Broadcast Platform
  • Television
Languages
  • English
Captions
Live Broadcast
  • Yes
Rights Statement
  • Made for the University of Auckland's educational use as permitted by the Screenrights Licensing Agreement.
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All I can say is - the advice I have had from the - the advice I have had from the Minister - the advice I have had from the Minister of - the advice I have had from the Minister of Transport's - the advice I have had from the Minister of Transport's office Minister of Transport's office includes Minister of Transport's office includes the Minister of Transport's office includes the following Minister of Transport's office includes the following projects includes the following projects which includes the following projects which are includes the following projects which are under includes the following projects which are under construction includes the following projects which are under construction under which are under construction under the which are under construction under the GPS. which are under construction under the GPS. The which are under construction under the GPS. The Oakaena which are under construction under the GPS. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Housing: My question is to the Minister of Housing: What My question is to the Minister of Housing: What challenges My question is to the Minister of Housing: What challenges and My question is to the Minister of Housing: What challenges and risks, Housing: What challenges and risks, if Housing: What challenges and risks, if any, Housing: What challenges and risks, if any, have Housing: What challenges and risks, if any, have been Housing: What challenges and risks, if any, have been identified Housing: What challenges and risks, if any, have been identified for Housing: What challenges and risks, if any, have been identified for the if any, have been identified for the KiwiBuild if any, have been identified for the KiwiBuild programme? very very good very good idea, very good idea, Mr very good idea, Mr Jones. very good idea, Mr Jones. 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But I think that people going to punish her for it. But I think that people shouldn't going to punish her for it. But I think that people shouldn't continue think that people shouldn't continue with think that people shouldn't continue with it. think that people shouldn't continue with it. We'll think that people shouldn't continue with it. We'll start think that people shouldn't continue with it. We'll start again. think that people shouldn't continue with it. We'll start again. Question with it. We'll start again. Question No. with it. We'll start again. Question No. 5. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Housing: My question is to the Minister of Housing: What My question is to the Minister of Housing: What challenges My question is to the Minister of Housing: What challenges and My question is to the Minister of Housing: What challenges and risks, Housing: What challenges and risks, if Housing: What challenges and risks, if any, Housing: What challenges and risks, if any, have Housing: What challenges and risks, if any, have been Housing: What challenges and risks, if any, have been identified Housing: What challenges and risks, if any, have been identified for Housing: What challenges and risks, if any, have been identified for the if any, have been identified for the KiwiBuild if any, have been identified for the KiwiBuild programme? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, as Mr Speaker, as part Mr Speaker, as part of Mr Speaker, as part of the Mr Speaker, as part of the reset Mr Speaker, as part of the reset of Mr Speaker, as part of the reset of the Mr Speaker, as part of the reset of the KiwiBuild Mr Speaker, as part of the reset of the KiwiBuild programme, Mr Speaker, as part of the reset of the KiwiBuild programme, a Mr Speaker, as part of the reset of the KiwiBuild programme, a number Mr Speaker, as part of the reset of the KiwiBuild programme, a number of the KiwiBuild programme, a number of risks the KiwiBuild programme, a number of risks and the KiwiBuild programme, a number of risks and challenges the KiwiBuild programme, a number of risks and challenges were the KiwiBuild programme, a number of risks and challenges were identified risks and challenges were identified and risks and challenges were identified and addressed. risks and challenges were identified and addressed. For risks and challenges were identified and addressed. For example, risks and challenges were identified and addressed. For example, the and addressed. For example, the programme and addressed. For example, the programme had and addressed. For example, the programme had been and addressed. For example, the programme had been building and addressed. For example, the programme had been building some programme had been building some houses programme had been building some houses and programme had been building some houses and locations programme had been building some houses and locations that programme had been building some houses and locations that did programme had been building some houses and locations that did not houses and locations that did not match houses and locations that did not match KiwiBuild houses and locations that did not match KiwiBuild buyer houses and locations that did not match KiwiBuild buyer demand. houses and locations that did not match KiwiBuild buyer demand. The match KiwiBuild buyer demand. The 3-year match KiwiBuild buyer demand. The 3-year residency match KiwiBuild buyer demand. The 3-year residency requirement match KiwiBuild buyer demand. The 3-year residency requirement on 3-year residency requirement on studio 3-year residency requirement on studio and 3-year residency requirement on studio and 1-bedroom 3-year residency requirement on studio and 1-bedroom apartments 3-year residency requirement on studio and 1-bedroom apartments was studio and 1-bedroom apartments was dissuading studio and 1-bedroom apartments was dissuading some studio and 1-bedroom apartments was dissuading some eligible studio and 1-bedroom apartments was dissuading some eligible buyers. dissuading some eligible buyers. First dissuading some eligible buyers. First home-buyers dissuading some eligible buyers. First home-buyers were dissuading some eligible buyers. First home-buyers were having First home-buyers were having difficulty First home-buyers were having difficulty gathering First home-buyers were having difficulty gathering a First home-buyers were having difficulty gathering a deposit. First home-buyers were having difficulty gathering a deposit. The difficulty gathering a deposit. The cohort difficulty gathering a deposit. The cohort of difficulty gathering a deposit. The cohort of eligible difficulty gathering a deposit. The cohort of eligible buyers difficulty gathering a deposit. The cohort of eligible buyers was difficulty gathering a deposit. The cohort of eligible buyers was too cohort of eligible buyers was too narrow. cohort of eligible buyers was too narrow. Early cohort of eligible buyers was too narrow. Early underwrites cohort of eligible buyers was too narrow. Early underwrites put cohort of eligible buyers was too narrow. Early underwrites put in narrow. Early underwrites put in place narrow. Early underwrites put in place by narrow. Early underwrites put in place by the narrow. Early underwrites put in place by the developers narrow. 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And reference was also made to the price of building materials to the price of building materials and to the price of building materials and difficulties to the price of building materials and difficulties with to the price of building materials and difficulties with land to the price of building materials and difficulties with land supply. and difficulties with land supply. Then, and difficulties with land supply. Then, of and difficulties with land supply. Then, of course, and difficulties with land supply. Then, of course, there and difficulties with land supply. Then, of course, there are and difficulties with land supply. Then, of course, there are the and difficulties with land supply. 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It's refreshing to see the international view of the New the international view of the New Zealand the international view of the New Zealand economy the international view of the New Zealand economy and the international view of the New Zealand economy and finances the international view of the New Zealand economy and finances are Zealand economy and finances are positive, Zealand economy and finances are positive, despite Zealand economy and finances are positive, despite some Zealand economy and finances are positive, despite some who Zealand economy and finances are positive, despite some who will Zealand economy and finances are positive, despite some who will take positive, despite some who will take a positive, despite some who will take a glass positive, despite some who will take a glass half positive, despite some who will take a glass half empty positive, despite some who will take a glass half empty approach positive, despite some who will take a glass half empty approach unthis a glass half empty approach unthis Government's a glass half empty approach unthis Government's solid a glass half empty approach unthis Government's solid economic Government's solid economic management Government's solid economic management where Government's solid economic management where we're Government's solid economic management where we're doing Government's solid economic management where we're doing well management where we're doing well under management where we're doing well under global management where we're doing well under global uncertainty. under global uncertainty. What under global uncertainty. What does under global uncertainty. What does the under global uncertainty. What does the IMF's under global uncertainty. What does the IMF's report under global uncertainty. What does the IMF's report say under global uncertainty. What does the IMF's report say about What does the IMF's report say about the What does the IMF's report say about the Government's What does the IMF's report say about the Government's policies? What does the IMF's report say about the Government's policies? The What does the IMF's report say about the Government's policies? The IMF the Government's policies? The IMF said the Government's policies? The IMF said that the Government's policies? The IMF said that within the Government's policies? The IMF said that within the the Government's policies? The IMF said that within the Government's said that within the Government's policy, said that within the Government's policy, we said that within the Government's policy, we have said that within the Government's policy, we have a said that within the Government's policy, we have a roster said that within the Government's policy, we have a roster of said that within the Government's policy, we have a roster of policies policy, we have a roster of policies to policy, we have a roster of policies to roster policy, we have a roster of policies to roster productivity policy, we have a roster of policies to roster productivity growth, to roster productivity growth, including to roster productivity growth, including introducing to roster productivity growth, including introducing an to roster productivity growth, including introducing an R to roster productivity growth, including introducing an R and to roster productivity growth, including introducing an R and D to roster productivity growth, including introducing an R and D tax including introducing an R and D tax incentive. including introducing an R and D tax incentive. Increased including introducing an R and D tax incentive. Increased education incentive. Increased education spending, incentive. Increased education spending, including incentive. Increased education spending, including reform incentive. Increased education spending, including reform of incentive. Increased education spending, including reform of the spending, including reform of the vocational spending, including reform of the vocational education spending, including reform of the vocational education sector, spending, including reform of the vocational education sector, the vocational education sector, the creation vocational education sector, the creation of vocational education sector, the creation of the vocational education sector, the creation of the New vocational education sector, the creation of the New Zealand creation of the New Zealand infrastructure creation of the New Zealand infrastructure commission creation of the New Zealand infrastructure commission to creation of the New Zealand infrastructure commission to enhance infrastructure commission to enhance procurement infrastructure commission to enhance procurement and infrastructure commission to enhance procurement and delivery infrastructure commission to enhance procurement and delivery and infrastructure commission to enhance procurement and delivery and set infrastructure commission to enhance procurement and delivery and set up procurement and delivery and set up an procurement and delivery and set up an infrastructure procurement and delivery and set up an infrastructure pipeline. procurement and delivery and set up an infrastructure pipeline. Using an infrastructure pipeline. Using wage an infrastructure pipeline. Using wage increases an infrastructure pipeline. Using wage increases to an infrastructure pipeline. Using wage increases to further an infrastructure pipeline. Using wage increases to further more wage increases to further more inclusive wage increases to further more inclusive growth wage increases to further more inclusive growth including wage increases to further more inclusive growth including minimum inclusive growth including minimum wage inclusive growth including minimum wage increases inclusive growth including minimum wage increases and inclusive growth including minimum wage increases and sector inclusive growth including minimum wage increases and sector wide wage increases and sector wide collective wage increases and sector wide collective bargaining wage increases and sector wide collective bargaining and wage increases and sector wide collective bargaining and fostering collective bargaining and fostering regional collective bargaining and fostering regional development collective bargaining and fostering regional development through collective bargaining and fostering regional development through the regional development through the provincial regional development through the provincial growth regional development through the provincial growth and regional development through the provincial growth and regional provincial growth and regional shortage provincial growth and regional shortage lists. provincial growth and regional shortage lists. Can provincial growth and regional shortage lists. Can the provincial growth and regional shortage lists. Can the Minister provincial growth and regional shortage lists. Can the Minister of shortage lists. Can the Minister of Finance shortage lists. Can the Minister of Finance confirm shortage lists. Can the Minister of Finance confirm that shortage lists. Can the Minister of Finance confirm that the shortage lists. Can the Minister of Finance confirm that the IMF shortage lists. Can the Minister of Finance confirm that the IMF is shortage lists. Can the Minister of Finance confirm that the IMF is no Finance confirm that the IMF is no longer Finance confirm that the IMF is no longer talking Finance confirm that the IMF is no longer talking about Finance confirm that the IMF is no longer talking about the Finance confirm that the IMF is no longer talking about the New Finance confirm that the IMF is no longer talking about the New Zealand longer talking about the New Zealand currency longer talking about the New Zealand currency being longer talking about the New Zealand currency being massively longer talking about the New Zealand currency being massively overvalued currency being massively overvalued Finance currency being massively overvalued and currency being massively overvalued and damaging exporters? But currency being massively overvalued and damaging exporters? But at currency being massively overvalued and damaging exporters? But at now and damaging exporters? But at now 64 and damaging exporters? But at now 64 cents and damaging exporters? But at now 64 cents or and damaging exporters? But at now 64 cents or thereabouts, and damaging exporters? But at now 64 cents or thereabouts, US, and damaging exporters? But at now 64 cents or thereabouts, US, that and damaging exporters? But at now 64 cents or thereabouts, US, that is 64 cents or thereabouts, US, that is enormously 64 cents or thereabouts, US, that is enormously helpful 64 cents or thereabouts, US, that is enormously helpful to 64 cents or thereabouts, US, that is enormously helpful to the 64 cents or thereabouts, US, that is enormously helpful to the export enormously helpful to the export base enormously helpful to the export base in enormously helpful to the export base in this enormously helpful to the export base in this country? enormously helpful to the export base in this country? There's base in this country? There's absolutely base in this country? There's absolutely no base in this country? There's absolutely no doubt base in this country? There's absolutely no doubt that base in this country? There's absolutely no doubt that the base in this country? There's absolutely no doubt that the dollar absolutely no doubt that the dollar at absolutely no doubt that the dollar at that absolutely no doubt that the dollar at that level absolutely no doubt that the dollar at that level is, absolutely no doubt that the dollar at that level is, indeed, absolutely no doubt that the dollar at that level is, indeed, helpful absolutely no doubt that the dollar at that level is, indeed, helpful to at that level is, indeed, helpful to the at that level is, indeed, helpful to the export at that level is, indeed, helpful to the export base, at that level is, indeed, helpful to the export base, and at that level is, indeed, helpful to the export base, and I at that level is, indeed, helpful to the export base, and I believe at that level is, indeed, helpful to the export base, and I believe that the export base, and I believe that that the export base, and I believe that that may the export base, and I believe that that may have the export base, and I believe that that may have contributed the export base, and I believe that that may have contributed in the export base, and I believe that that may have contributed in part the export base, and I believe that that may have contributed in part to that may have contributed in part to the that may have contributed in part to the fact that may have contributed in part to the fact that that may have contributed in part to the fact that exports that may have contributed in part to the fact that exports are that may have contributed in part to the fact that exports are around the fact that exports are around 28.3% the fact that exports are around 28.3% of the fact that exports are around 28.3% of GDP the fact that exports are around 28.3% of GDP at the fact that exports are around 28.3% of GDP at the the fact that exports are around 28.3% of GDP at the moment. the fact that exports are around 28.3% of GDP at the moment. That's 28.3% of GDP at the moment. That's heading 28.3% of GDP at the moment. That's heading in 28.3% of GDP at the moment. That's heading in the 28.3% of GDP at the moment. That's heading in the right 28.3% of GDP at the moment. That's heading in the right direction, heading in the right direction, unlike heading in the right direction, unlike the heading in the right direction, unlike the previous heading in the right direction, unlike the previous Government heading in the right direction, unlike the previous Government who unlike the previous Government who set unlike the previous Government who set a unlike the previous Government who set a goal unlike the previous Government who set a goal of unlike the previous Government who set a goal of 30% unlike the previous Government who set a goal of 30% and unlike the previous Government who set a goal of 30% and promptly unlike the previous Government who set a goal of 30% and promptly put set a goal of 30% and promptly put the set a goal of 30% and promptly put the car set a goal of 30% and promptly put the car into set a goal of 30% and promptly put the car into reverse. set a goal of 30% and promptly put the car into reverse. Question set a goal of 30% and promptly put the car into reverse. Question No. the car into reverse. Question No. 7. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Associate My question is to the Associate Minister My question is to the Associate Minister of My question is to the Associate Minister of Health: My question is to the Associate Minister of Health: Does My question is to the Associate Minister of Health: Does she My question is to the Associate Minister of Health: Does she stand Minister of Health: Does she stand by Minister of Health: Does she stand by all Minister of Health: Does she stand by all her Minister of Health: Does she stand by all her statements, Minister of Health: Does she stand by all her statements, policies, Minister of Health: Does she stand by all her statements, policies, and by all her statements, policies, and actions by all her statements, policies, and actions regarding by all her statements, policies, and actions regarding vaccination by all her statements, policies, and actions regarding vaccination and actions regarding vaccination and the actions regarding vaccination and the measles actions regarding vaccination and the measles outbreak? INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: Thank INTERPRETER: Thank you INTERPRETER: Thank you Mr INTERPRETER: Thank you Mr Speaker. INTERPRETER: Thank you Mr Speaker. Yes. INTERPRETER: Thank you Mr Speaker. Yes. How INTERPRETER: Thank you Mr Speaker. Yes. How long INTERPRETER: Thank you Mr Speaker. Yes. How long are INTERPRETER: Thank you Mr Speaker. Yes. How long are the INTERPRETER: Thank you Mr Speaker. Yes. How long are the 52,000 Yes. How long are the 52,000 vaccines Yes. How long are the 52,000 vaccines she Yes. How long are the 52,000 vaccines she has Yes. How long are the 52,000 vaccines she has spoken Yes. How long are the 52,000 vaccines she has spoken about vaccines she has spoken about projected vaccines she has spoken about projected to vaccines she has spoken about projected to last vaccines she has spoken about projected to last before vaccines she has spoken about projected to last before they vaccines she has spoken about projected to last before they have projected to last before they have all projected to last before they have all been projected to last before they have all been used projected to last before they have all been used up projected to last before they have all been used up for projected to last before they have all been used up for vaccinations? all been used up for vaccinations? That all been used up for vaccinations? That depends all been used up for vaccinations? That depends on all been used up for vaccinations? That depends on the all been used up for vaccinations? That depends on the number all been used up for vaccinations? That depends on the number of That depends on the number of vaccines That depends on the number of vaccines which That depends on the number of vaccines which are That depends on the number of vaccines which are given That depends on the number of vaccines which are given each That depends on the number of vaccines which are given each week. vaccines which are given each week. But vaccines which are given each week. But as vaccines which are given each week. But as the vaccines which are given each week. But as the member vaccines which are given each week. But as the member knows, vaccines which are given each week. But as the member knows, there vaccines which are given each week. But as the member knows, there will But as the member knows, there will be But as the member knows, there will be 100,000 But as the member knows, there will be 100,000 additional But as the member knows, there will be 100,000 additional MMR But as the member knows, there will be 100,000 additional MMR vaccines be 100,000 additional MMR vaccines arriving be 100,000 additional MMR vaccines arriving in be 100,000 additional MMR vaccines arriving in the be 100,000 additional MMR vaccines arriving in the coming be 100,000 additional MMR vaccines arriving in the coming weeks. arriving in the coming weeks. Supplementary. arriving in the coming weeks. Supplementary. When arriving in the coming weeks. Supplementary. When will arriving in the coming weeks. Supplementary. When will the Supplementary. When will the additional Supplementary. When will the additional 100,000 Supplementary. When will the additional 100,000 vaccines Supplementary. When will the additional 100,000 vaccines she additional 100,000 vaccines she spoke additional 100,000 vaccines she spoke about additional 100,000 vaccines she spoke about last additional 100,000 vaccines she spoke about last week additional 100,000 vaccines she spoke about last week actually additional 100,000 vaccines she spoke about last week actually be spoke about last week actually be distributed spoke about last week actually be distributed to spoke about last week actually be distributed to health spoke about last week actually be distributed to health professionals? distributed to health professionals? They distributed to health professionals? They will distributed to health professionals? They will be distributed to health professionals? They will be distributed distributed to health professionals? They will be distributed as distributed to health professionals? They will be distributed as soon distributed to health professionals? They will be distributed as soon as They will be distributed as soon as they They will be distributed as soon as they are They will be distributed as soon as they are available. They will be distributed as soon as they are available. Supplementary. they are available. Supplementary. Under they are available. Supplementary. Under the they are available. Supplementary. Under the Minister's they are available. Supplementary. Under the Minister's actions, they are available. Supplementary. Under the Minister's actions, is they are available. Supplementary. Under the Minister's actions, is the Under the Minister's actions, is the current Under the Minister's actions, is the current measles Under the Minister's actions, is the current measles outbreak Under the Minister's actions, is the current measles outbreak getting current measles outbreak getting better, current measles outbreak getting better, worse current measles outbreak getting better, worse or current measles outbreak getting better, worse or staying current measles outbreak getting better, worse or staying the current measles outbreak getting better, worse or staying the same? better, worse or staying the same? It better, worse or staying the same? It is better, worse or staying the same? It is clinicians better, worse or staying the same? It is clinicians and better, worse or staying the same? It is clinicians and experts better, worse or staying the same? It is clinicians and experts who better, worse or staying the same? It is clinicians and experts who are It is clinicians and experts who are guiding It is clinicians and experts who are guiding the It is clinicians and experts who are guiding the Government's It is clinicians and experts who are guiding the Government's response It is clinicians and experts who are guiding the Government's response to guiding the Government's response to the guiding the Government's response to the measles guiding the Government's response to the measles outbreak guiding the Government's response to the measles outbreak and guiding the Government's response to the measles outbreak and I guiding the Government's response to the measles outbreak and I trust the measles outbreak and I trust them. the measles outbreak and I trust them. Supplementary. the measles outbreak and I trust them. Supplementary. When the measles outbreak and I trust them. Supplementary. When she the measles outbreak and I trust them. Supplementary. When she said, them. Supplementary. When she said, "Vaccination them. Supplementary. When she said, "Vaccination is them. Supplementary. When she said, "Vaccination is the them. Supplementary. When she said, "Vaccination is the only them. Supplementary. When she said, "Vaccination is the only way them. Supplementary. When she said, "Vaccination is the only way to "Vaccination is the only way to prevent "Vaccination is the only way to prevent measles", "Vaccination is the only way to prevent measles", is "Vaccination is the only way to prevent measles", is she "Vaccination is the only way to prevent measles", is she confident prevent measles", is she confident enough prevent measles", is she confident enough is prevent measles", is she confident enough is being prevent measles", is she confident enough is being done prevent measles", is she confident enough is being done to prevent measles", is she confident enough is being done to prevent enough is being done to prevent measles enough is being done to prevent measles in enough is being done to prevent measles in light enough is being done to prevent measles in light of enough is being done to prevent measles in light of reports measles in light of reports yesterday measles in light of reports yesterday that measles in light of reports yesterday that students measles in light of reports yesterday that students were measles in light of reports yesterday that students were sent yesterday that students were sent home yesterday that students were sent home from yesterday that students were sent home from Wellington yesterday that students were sent home from Wellington High yesterday that students were sent home from Wellington High School yesterday that students were sent home from Wellington High School due home from Wellington High School due to home from Wellington High School due to measles? home from Wellington High School due to measles? To home from Wellington High School due to measles? To date home from Wellington High School due to measles? To date this home from Wellington High School due to measles? To date this year, home from Wellington High School due to measles? To date this year, over to measles? To date this year, over 180,000 to measles? To date this year, over 180,000 vaccines to measles? To date this year, over 180,000 vaccines have to measles? To date this year, over 180,000 vaccines have been 180,000 vaccines have been delivered. 180,000 vaccines have been delivered. That's 180,000 vaccines have been delivered. That's nearly 180,000 vaccines have been delivered. That's nearly twice 180,000 vaccines have been delivered. That's nearly twice the delivered. That's nearly twice the amount delivered. That's nearly twice the amount that delivered. That's nearly twice the amount that were delivered. That's nearly twice the amount that were delivered delivered. That's nearly twice the amount that were delivered in delivered. That's nearly twice the amount that were delivered in the amount that were delivered in the same amount that were delivered in the same period amount that were delivered in the same period the amount that were delivered in the same period the previous amount that were delivered in the same period the previous year amount that were delivered in the same period the previous year and same period the previous year and the same period the previous year and the year same period the previous year and the year before same period the previous year and the year before that. same period the previous year and the year before that. I same period the previous year and the year before that. I am same period the previous year and the year before that. I am confident the year before that. I am confident that the year before that. I am confident that the the year before that. I am confident that the clinicians the year before that. I am confident that the clinicians who the year before that. I am confident that the clinicians who are that the clinicians who are delivering that the clinicians who are delivering the that the clinicians who are delivering the vaccines that the clinicians who are delivering the vaccines are that the clinicians who are delivering the vaccines are doing delivering the vaccines are doing absolutely delivering the vaccines are doing absolutely the delivering the vaccines are doing absolutely the best delivering the vaccines are doing absolutely the best that delivering the vaccines are doing absolutely the best that they delivering the vaccines are doing absolutely the best that they can delivering the vaccines are doing absolutely the best that they can - absolutely the best that they can - particularly absolutely the best that they can - particularly to absolutely the best that they can - particularly to priorityise absolutely the best that they can - particularly to priorityise the absolutely the best that they can - particularly to priorityise the most particularly to priorityise the most vulnerable, particularly to priorityise the most vulnerable, who particularly to priorityise the most vulnerable, who are particularly to priorityise the most vulnerable, who are children particularly to priorityise the most vulnerable, who are children under vulnerable, who are children under the vulnerable, who are children under the age vulnerable, who are children under the age of vulnerable, who are children under the age of 5. vulnerable, who are children under the age of 5. Question vulnerable, who are children under the age of 5. Question No. vulnerable, who are children under the age of 5. Question No. 8. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Climate My question is to the Minister for Climate Change: My question is to the Minister for Climate Change: Does My question is to the Minister for Climate Change: Does he My question is to the Minister for Climate Change: Does he stand My question is to the Minister for Climate Change: Does he stand by My question is to the Minister for Climate Change: Does he stand by his Climate Change: Does he stand by his statement Climate Change: Does he stand by his statement in Climate Change: Does he stand by his statement in regard Climate Change: Does he stand by his statement in regard to Climate Change: Does he stand by his statement in regard to reducing Climate Change: Does he stand by his statement in regard to reducing the statement in regard to reducing the methane statement in regard to reducing the methane cap, statement in regard to reducing the methane cap, "I'm statement in regard to reducing the methane cap, "I'm open statement in regard to reducing the methane cap, "I'm open to statement in regard to reducing the methane cap, "I'm open to a statement in regard to reducing the methane cap, "I'm open to a solution methane cap, "I'm open to a solution to methane cap, "I'm open to a solution to that methane cap, "I'm open to a solution to that conundrum methane cap, "I'm open to a solution to that conundrum methane cap, "I'm open to a solution to that conundrum but methane cap, "I'm open to a solution to that conundrum but it's methane cap, "I'm open to a solution to that conundrum but it's got methane cap, "I'm open to a solution to that conundrum but it's got to to that conundrum but it's got to meet to that conundrum but it's got to meet the to that conundrum but it's got to meet the science"? Yes, Yes, I Yes, I do. Yes, I do. In Yes, I do. In the Yes, I do. In the context Yes, I do. In the context in Yes, I do. In the context in which Yes, I do. In the context in which it Yes, I do. In the context in which it was Yes, I do. In the context in which it was given. Yes, I do. In the context in which it was given. I Yes, I do. In the context in which it was given. I was Yes, I do. In the context in which it was given. I was asked Yes, I do. In the context in which it was given. I was asked about Yes, I do. In the context in which it was given. I was asked about how it was given. I was asked about how to it was given. I was asked about how to achieve it was given. I was asked about how to achieve bipartisan it was given. I was asked about how to achieve bipartisan support it was given. I was asked about how to achieve bipartisan support for to achieve bipartisan support for the to achieve bipartisan support for the zero to achieve bipartisan support for the zero carbon to achieve bipartisan support for the zero carbon bill, to achieve bipartisan support for the zero carbon bill, and to achieve bipartisan support for the zero carbon bill, and I to achieve bipartisan support for the zero carbon bill, and I said the zero carbon bill, and I said that the zero carbon bill, and I said that I the zero carbon bill, and I said that I was the zero carbon bill, and I said that I was open the zero carbon bill, and I said that I was open to the zero carbon bill, and I said that I was open to solutions the zero carbon bill, and I said that I was open to solutions to the zero carbon bill, and I said that I was open to solutions to that that I was open to solutions to that conundrum that I was open to solutions to that conundrum as that I was open to solutions to that conundrum as long that I was open to solutions to that conundrum as long as that I was open to solutions to that conundrum as long as they that I was open to solutions to that conundrum as long as they meet that I was open to solutions to that conundrum as long as they meet the conundrum as long as they meet the scientific conundrum as long as they meet the scientific criteria conundrum as long as they meet the scientific criteria of conundrum as long as they meet the scientific criteria of living conundrum as long as they meet the scientific criteria of living within scientific criteria of living within 1.5 scientific criteria of living within 1.5 degrees scientific criteria of living within 1.5 degrees of scientific criteria of living within 1.5 degrees of global scientific criteria of living within 1.5 degrees of global warming scientific criteria of living within 1.5 degrees of global warming above 1.5 degrees of global warming above pre-industrial 1.5 degrees of global warming above pre-industrial levels. 1.5 degrees of global warming above pre-industrial levels. On 1.5 degrees of global warming above pre-industrial levels. On that, 1.5 degrees of global warming above pre-industrial levels. On that, I pre-industrial levels. On that, I will pre-industrial levels. On that, I will not pre-industrial levels. On that, I will not compromise. pre-industrial levels. On that, I will not compromise. The pre-industrial levels. On that, I will not compromise. The bill pre-industrial levels. On that, I will not compromise. The bill is will not compromise. The bill is before will not compromise. The bill is before select will not compromise. The bill is before select committee will not compromise. The bill is before select committee so will not compromise. The bill is before select committee so I'm will not compromise. The bill is before select committee so I'm open before select committee so I'm open to before select committee so I'm open to whatever before select committee so I'm open to whatever the before select committee so I'm open to whatever the committee before select committee so I'm open to whatever the committee may to whatever the committee may recommend to whatever the committee may recommend to to whatever the committee may recommend to improve to whatever the committee may recommend to improve the to whatever the committee may recommend to improve the bill, to whatever the committee may recommend to improve the bill, but recommend to improve the bill, but of recommend to improve the bill, but of course, recommend to improve the bill, but of course, any recommend to improve the bill, but of course, any significant recommend to improve the bill, but of course, any significant changes of course, any significant changes to of course, any significant changes to the of course, any significant changes to the bill of course, any significant changes to the bill will of course, any significant changes to the bill will need of course, any significant changes to the bill will need to of course, any significant changes to the bill will need to go of course, any significant changes to the bill will need to go through to the bill will need to go through the to the bill will need to go through the normal to the bill will need to go through the normal Cabinet to the bill will need to go through the normal Cabinet process. to the bill will need to go through the normal Cabinet process. I to the bill will need to go through the normal Cabinet process. I note the normal Cabinet process. I note that the normal Cabinet process. I note that in the normal Cabinet process. I note that in today's the normal Cabinet process. I note that in today's Mood the normal Cabinet process. I note that in today's Mood of the normal Cabinet process. I note that in today's Mood of the that in today's Mood of the Boardroom that in today's Mood of the Boardroom survey that in today's Mood of the Boardroom survey this that in today's Mood of the Boardroom survey this morning, that in today's Mood of the Boardroom survey this morning, that Boardroom survey this morning, that a Boardroom survey this morning, that a chief Boardroom survey this morning, that a chief executive Boardroom survey this morning, that a chief executive said Boardroom survey this morning, that a chief executive said of Boardroom survey this morning, that a chief executive said of the a chief executive said of the Opposition, a chief executive said of the Opposition, "Walking a chief executive said of the Opposition, "Walking away a chief executive said of the Opposition, "Walking away from Opposition, "Walking away from supporting Opposition, "Walking away from supporting the Opposition, "Walking away from supporting the climate Opposition, "Walking away from supporting the climate change supporting the climate change legislation supporting the climate change legislation is supporting the climate change legislation is wrong". supporting the climate change legislation is wrong". 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In what ways does he believe that a target for does he believe that a target for methane does he believe that a target for methane for does he believe that a target for methane for 24% does he believe that a target for methane for 24% to does he believe that a target for methane for 24% to 27% does he believe that a target for methane for 24% to 27% reduction methane for 24% to 27% reduction meets methane for 24% to 27% reduction meets the methane for 24% to 27% reduction meets the science? methane for 24% to 27% reduction meets the science? Because methane for 24% to 27% reduction meets the science? Because it methane for 24% to 27% reduction meets the science? Because it came meets the science? Because it came from meets the science? Because it came from the meets the science? Because it came from the intergovernmental meets the science? Because it came from the intergovernmental panel meets the science? 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Question crack on with a 10% reduction by 2030. Question No. crack on with a 10% reduction by 2030. Question No. 9. 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Good Good news. Good news. Yesterday, Good news. Yesterday, the Good news. Yesterday, the Minister Good news. Yesterday, the Minister of Good news. Yesterday, the Minister of Finance Good news. Yesterday, the Minister of Finance and Good news. Yesterday, the Minister of Finance and I Good news. Yesterday, the Minister of Finance and I announced Good news. Yesterday, the Minister of Finance and I announced that Good news. Yesterday, the Minister of Finance and I announced that we of Finance and I announced that we were of Finance and I announced that we were removing of Finance and I announced that we were removing tax of Finance and I announced that we were removing tax barriers of Finance and I announced that we were removing tax barriers to were removing tax barriers to business, were removing tax barriers to business, ovation were removing tax barriers to business, ovation -- were removing tax barriers to business, ovation -- innovation, business, ovation -- innovation, expansion business, ovation -- innovation, expansion and business, ovation -- innovation, expansion and growth. business, ovation -- innovation, expansion and growth. The business, ovation -- innovation, expansion and growth. The first expansion and growth. The first change expansion and growth. The first change will expansion and growth. The first change will allow expansion and growth. The first change will allow businesses expansion and growth. The first change will allow businesses to change will allow businesses to claim change will allow businesses to claim tax change will allow businesses to claim tax reductions change will allow businesses to claim tax reductions for change will allow businesses to claim tax reductions for business claim tax reductions for business opportunities claim tax reductions for business opportunities that claim tax reductions for business opportunities that don't claim tax reductions for business opportunities that don't proceed. opportunities that don't proceed. Also opportunities that don't proceed. Also known opportunities that don't proceed. Also known as opportunities that don't proceed. Also known as feasibility Also known as feasibility expendature. Also known as feasibility expendature. The Also known as feasibility expendature. The second Also known as feasibility expendature. 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The second change is to work with tax and business experts work with tax and business experts to work with tax and business experts to design work with tax and business experts to design a work with tax and business experts to design a solution work with tax and business experts to design a solution to work with tax and business experts to design a solution to allow work with tax and business experts to design a solution to allow losses to design a solution to allow losses to to design a solution to allow losses to be to design a solution to allow losses to be carried to design a solution to allow losses to be carried over to design a solution to allow losses to be carried over when to design a solution to allow losses to be carried over when there to design a solution to allow losses to be carried over when there is to design a solution to allow losses to be carried over when there is a to be carried over when there is a change to be carried over when there is a change to to be carried over when there is a change to the to be carried over when there is a change to the ownership to be carried over when there is a change to the ownership of to be carried over when there is a change to the ownership of the change to the ownership of the business. change to the ownership of the business. No-one change to the ownership of the business. No-one has change to the ownership of the business. No-one has lost business. No-one has lost continuity. business. No-one has lost continuity. When business. No-one has lost continuity. When I business. No-one has lost continuity. When I meet business. No-one has lost continuity. When I meet with continuity. When I meet with business continuity. When I meet with business taxpayers, continuity. When I meet with business taxpayers, these continuity. 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Mr Speaker, the Coalition Government Mr Speaker, the Coalition Government is Mr Speaker, the Coalition Government is backing Mr Speaker, the Coalition Government is backing Kiwi Mr Speaker, the Coalition Government is backing Kiwi companies Mr Speaker, the Coalition Government is backing Kiwi companies to is backing Kiwi companies to innovate is backing Kiwi companies to innovate and is backing Kiwi companies to innovate and grow is backing Kiwi companies to innovate and grow by is backing Kiwi companies to innovate and grow by making is backing Kiwi companies to innovate and grow by making it innovate and grow by making it easier innovate and grow by making it easier to innovate and grow by making it easier to invest innovate and grow by making it easier to invest in innovate and grow by making it easier to invest in new innovate and grow by making it easier to invest in new assets innovate and grow by making it easier to invest in new assets and easier to invest in new assets and business easier to invest in new assets and business models easier to invest in new assets and business models and easier to invest in new assets and business models and giving easier to invest in new assets and business models and giving start-ups business models and giving start-ups a business models and giving start-ups a better business models and giving start-ups a better shot business models and giving start-ups a better shot at business models and giving start-ups a better shot at success. business models and giving start-ups a better shot at success. How business models and giving start-ups a better shot at success. How will a better shot at success. How will the a better shot at success. How will the tax a better shot at success. How will the tax changes a better shot at success. How will the tax changes help a better shot at success. How will the tax changes help small the tax changes help small businesses? the tax changes help small businesses? Mr the tax changes help small businesses? Mr Speaker, the tax changes help small businesses? Mr Speaker, the the tax changes help small businesses? Mr Speaker, the changes businesses? Mr Speaker, the changes to businesses? Mr Speaker, the changes to the businesses? Mr Speaker, the changes to the lost businesses? Mr Speaker, the changes to the lost continuity businesses? Mr Speaker, the changes to the lost continuity rules businesses? Mr Speaker, the changes to the lost continuity rules will to the lost continuity rules will make to the lost continuity rules will make it to the lost continuity rules will make it easier to the lost continuity rules will make it easier for to the lost continuity rules will make it easier for start-ups to the lost continuity rules will make it easier for start-ups to make it easier for start-ups to attract make it easier for start-ups to attract investment make it easier for start-ups to attract investment and make it easier for start-ups to attract investment and get make it easier for start-ups to attract investment and get off make it easier for start-ups to attract investment and get off the attract investment and get off the ground. attract investment and get off the ground. A attract investment and get off the ground. A lot attract investment and get off the ground. A lot of attract investment and get off the ground. A lot of start-up attract investment and get off the ground. A lot of start-up companies ground. A lot of start-up companies accrue ground. A lot of start-up companies accrue losses ground. A lot of start-up companies accrue losses in ground. A lot of start-up companies accrue losses in the ground. A lot of start-up companies accrue losses in the early ground. A lot of start-up companies accrue losses in the early years. ground. A lot of start-up companies accrue losses in the early years. We accrue losses in the early years. We want accrue losses in the early years. We want to accrue losses in the early years. We want to work accrue losses in the early years. We want to work with accrue losses in the early years. We want to work with business accrue losses in the early years. We want to work with business and accrue losses in the early years. 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I'm advised that the document has not the Justice Committee. I'm advised that the document has not yet the Justice Committee. I'm advised that the document has not yet been that the document has not yet been released. that the document has not yet been released. It that the document has not yet been released. It is that the document has not yet been released. It is within that the document has not yet been released. It is within the that the document has not yet been released. It is within the power that the document has not yet been released. It is within the power of released. It is within the power of the released. It is within the power of the House released. It is within the power of the House to released. It is within the power of the House to seek released. It is within the power of the House to seek leave released. It is within the power of the House to seek leave for released. It is within the power of the House to seek leave for that. the House to seek leave for that. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Rural My question is to the Minister for Rural Communities: My question is to the Minister for Rural Communities: What My question is to the Minister for Rural Communities: What has My question is to the Minister for Rural Communities: What has he My question is to the Minister for Rural Communities: What has he done Rural Communities: What has he done to Rural Communities: What has he done to encourage Rural Communities: What has he done to encourage rural Rural Communities: What has he done to encourage rural communities' to encourage rural communities' resilience to encourage rural communities' resilience to to encourage rural communities' resilience to challenges, to encourage rural communities' resilience to challenges, and to encourage rural communities' resilience to challenges, and to resilience to challenges, and to support resilience to challenges, and to support mental resilience to challenges, and to support mental wellness? I I am I am regularly I am regularly talking I am regularly talking with I am regularly talking with rural I am regularly talking with rural support I am regularly talking with rural support trusts, I am regularly talking with rural support trusts, with I am regularly talking with rural support trusts, with farmers, support trusts, with farmers, organisations support trusts, with farmers, organisations like support trusts, with farmers, organisations like beef support trusts, with farmers, organisations like beef and support trusts, with farmers, organisations like beef and lamb support trusts, with farmers, organisations like beef and lamb and organisations like beef and lamb and dairy organisations like beef and lamb and dairy NZ. organisations like beef and lamb and dairy NZ. The organisations like beef and lamb and dairy NZ. The banks, organisations like beef and lamb and dairy NZ. The banks, my organisations like beef and lamb and dairy NZ. The banks, my colleague, dairy NZ. 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Mr Speaker, when my colleague announced the $1.9 when my colleague announced the $1.9 billion when my colleague announced the $1.9 billion funding when my colleague announced the $1.9 billion funding for when my colleague announced the $1.9 billion funding for mental when my colleague announced the $1.9 billion funding for mental health, when my colleague announced the $1.9 billion funding for mental health, I billion funding for mental health, I have billion funding for mental health, I have the billion funding for mental health, I have the on billion funding for mental health, I have the on his billion funding for mental health, I have the on his door billion funding for mental health, I have the on his door ensuring billion funding for mental health, I have the on his door ensuring that have the on his door ensuring that he have the on his door ensuring that he patway have the on his door ensuring that he patway for have the on his door ensuring that he patway for rural have the on his door ensuring that he patway for rural communities. he patway for rural communities. 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We've invested $20 million in We've invested $20 million in telehealth We've invested $20 million in telehealth to We've invested $20 million in telehealth to boost We've invested $20 million in telehealth to boost phone We've invested $20 million in telehealth to boost phone and We've invested $20 million in telehealth to boost phone and online telehealth to boost phone and online services telehealth to boost phone and online services to telehealth to boost phone and online services to ensure telehealth to boost phone and online services to ensure that telehealth to boost phone and online services to ensure that those telehealth to boost phone and online services to ensure that those who services to ensure that those who live services to ensure that those who live in services to ensure that those who live in the services to ensure that those who live in the most services to ensure that those who live in the most isolated live in the most isolated communities live in the most isolated communities can live in the most isolated communities can get live in the most isolated communities can get help live in the most isolated communities can get help when live in the most isolated communities can get help when they communities can get help when they need communities can get help when they need it. communities can get help when they need it. This communities can get help when they need it. This Government communities can get help when they need it. This Government has communities can get help when they need it. This Government has boosted need it. This Government has boosted by need it. This Government has boosted by almost need it. This Government has boosted by almost double need it. This Government has boosted by almost double the need it. This Government has boosted by almost double the amount need it. This Government has boosted by almost double the amount of need it. This Government has boosted by almost double the amount of money by almost double the amount of money for by almost double the amount of money for rural by almost double the amount of money for rural support by almost double the amount of money for rural support trusts by almost double the amount of money for rural support trusts who by almost double the amount of money for rural support trusts who are for rural support trusts who are doing for rural support trusts who are doing great for rural support trusts who are doing great work for rural support trusts who are doing great work on for rural support trusts who are doing great work on the for rural support trusts who are doing great work on the ground for rural support trusts who are doing great work on the ground to doing great work on the ground to get doing great work on the ground to get out doing great work on the ground to get out there doing great work on the ground to get out there and doing great work on the ground to get out there and help doing great work on the ground to get out there and help rural get out there and help rural communities get out there and help rural communities in get out there and help rural communities in times get out there and help rural communities in times of get out there and help rural communities in times of need. get out there and help rural communities in times of need. Mr communities in times of need. Mr Speaker, communities in times of need. Mr Speaker, there communities in times of need. Mr Speaker, there are communities in times of need. Mr Speaker, there are many, communities in times of need. Mr Speaker, there are many, many communities in times of need. Mr Speaker, there are many, many more Speaker, there are many, many more but Speaker, there are many, many more but you'd Speaker, there are many, many more but you'd probably Speaker, there are many, many more but you'd probably sit Speaker, there are many, many more but you'd probably sit me Speaker, there are many, many more but you'd probably sit me down but you'd probably sit me down before but you'd probably sit me down before I but you'd probably sit me down before I got but you'd probably sit me down before I got through but you'd probably sit me down before I got through half but you'd probably sit me down before I got through half of but you'd probably sit me down before I got through half of them. before I got through half of them. Supplementary. before I got through half of them. Supplementary. In before I got through half of them. Supplementary. In response before I got through half of them. Supplementary. In response to before I got through half of them. Supplementary. In response to the Supplementary. In response to the open Supplementary. In response to the open letter Supplementary. In response to the open letter highlighting Supplementary. In response to the open letter highlighting the open letter highlighting the concerns open letter highlighting the concerns concern open letter highlighting the concerns concern on open letter highlighting the concerns concern on the open letter highlighting the concerns concern on the current concerns concern on the current state concerns concern on the current state of concerns concern on the current state of rural concerns concern on the current state of rural mental concerns concern on the current state of rural mental wellness, concerns concern on the current state of rural mental wellness, was state of rural mental wellness, was a state of rural mental wellness, was a tweet state of rural mental wellness, was a tweet by state of rural mental wellness, was a tweet by the state of rural mental wellness, was a tweet by the Minister state of rural mental wellness, was a tweet by the Minister stating state of rural mental wellness, was a tweet by the Minister stating that a tweet by the Minister stating that if a tweet by the Minister stating that if farm a tweet by the Minister stating that if farm advisors a tweet by the Minister stating that if farm advisors and a tweet by the Minister stating that if farm advisors and rural a tweet by the Minister stating that if farm advisors and rural media if farm advisors and rural media weren't if farm advisors and rural media weren't so if farm advisors and rural media weren't so keen if farm advisors and rural media weren't so keen to if farm advisors and rural media weren't so keen to repeat if farm advisors and rural media weren't so keen to repeat negative weren't so keen to repeat negative political weren't so keen to repeat negative political rhetoric, weren't so keen to repeat negative political rhetoric, farmers weren't so keen to repeat negative political rhetoric, farmers might political rhetoric, farmers might feel political rhetoric, farmers might feel appreciated. political rhetoric, farmers might feel appreciated. 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Mr Speaker, I appreciate that some Mr Speaker, I appreciate that some people Mr Speaker, I appreciate that some people are Mr Speaker, I appreciate that some people are very Mr Speaker, I appreciate that some people are very sensitive Mr Speaker, I appreciate that some people are very sensitive to Mr Speaker, I appreciate that some people are very sensitive to the people are very sensitive to the truth. people are very sensitive to the truth. Mr people are very sensitive to the truth. Mr Speaker, people are very sensitive to the truth. Mr Speaker, I people are very sensitive to the truth. Mr Speaker, I have truth. Mr Speaker, I have subsequently truth. Mr Speaker, I have subsequently spoken truth. Mr Speaker, I have subsequently spoken with truth. Mr Speaker, I have subsequently spoken with many truth. Mr Speaker, I have subsequently spoken with many people subsequently spoken with many people in subsequently spoken with many people in the subsequently spoken with many people in the rural subsequently spoken with many people in the rural media subsequently spoken with many people in the rural media to subsequently spoken with many people in the rural media to explain subsequently spoken with many people in the rural media to explain my in the rural media to explain my position, in the rural media to explain my position, and in the rural media to explain my position, and they, in the rural media to explain my position, and they, indeed, in the rural media to explain my position, and they, indeed, accept position, and they, indeed, accept that position, and they, indeed, accept that that position, and they, indeed, accept that that is position, and they, indeed, accept that that is the position, and they, indeed, accept that that is the truth. position, and they, indeed, accept that that is the truth. I'm position, and they, indeed, accept that that is the truth. I'm also that that is the truth. I'm also meeting that that is the truth. I'm also meeting representatives that that is the truth. I'm also meeting representatives from that that is the truth. I'm also meeting representatives from Baker meeting representatives from Baker AG meeting representatives from Baker AG this meeting representatives from Baker AG this afternoon meeting representatives from Baker AG this afternoon so meeting representatives from Baker AG this afternoon so we meeting representatives from Baker AG this afternoon so we can meeting representatives from Baker AG this afternoon so we can better AG this afternoon so we can better explain AG this afternoon so we can better explain our AG this afternoon so we can better explain our positions. AG this afternoon so we can better explain our positions. I AG this afternoon so we can better explain our positions. I stand AG this afternoon so we can better explain our positions. I stand by explain our positions. I stand by the explain our positions. I stand by the fact explain our positions. I stand by the fact that explain our positions. I stand by the fact that if explain our positions. I stand by the fact that if we explain our positions. I stand by the fact that if we were explain our positions. I stand by the fact that if we were to the fact that if we were to highlight the fact that if we were to highlight the the fact that if we were to highlight the positive the fact that if we were to highlight the positive potential highlight the positive potential opportunities highlight the positive potential opportunities across highlight the positive potential opportunities across agriculture highlight the positive potential opportunities across agriculture at opportunities across agriculture at a opportunities across agriculture at a time opportunities across agriculture at a time when opportunities across agriculture at a time when we opportunities across agriculture at a time when we have opportunities across agriculture at a time when we have record opportunities across agriculture at a time when we have record levels opportunities across agriculture at a time when we have record levels of a time when we have record levels of income a time when we have record levels of the a time when we have record levels of income in almost a time when we have record levels of income in almost all a time when we have record levels of income in almost all the a time when we have record levels of income in almost all the sectors, income in almost all the sectors, I'm income in almost all the sectors, I'm sure income in almost all the sectors, I'm sure people income in almost all the sectors, I'm sure people in income in almost all the sectors, I'm sure people in the income in almost all the sectors, I'm sure people in the rural I'm sure people in the rural community I'm sure people in the rural community would I'm sure people in the rural community would feel I'm sure people in the rural community would feel more I'm sure people in the rural community would feel more positive, community would feel more positive, unlike community would feel more positive, unlike the community would feel more positive, unlike the bleating community would feel more positive, unlike the bleating that community would feel more positive, unlike the bleating that comes community would feel more positive, unlike the bleating that comes from unlike the bleating that comes from the unlike the bleating that comes from the National unlike the bleating that comes from the National Party unlike the bleating that comes from the National Party every unlike the bleating that comes from the National Party every day. the National Party every day. 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I terribly as a result of this"? I acknowledge terribly as a result of this"? I acknowledge that terribly as a result of this"? I acknowledge that for terribly as a result of this"? I acknowledge that for a terribly as a result of this"? I acknowledge that for a long terribly as a result of this"? I acknowledge that for a long time, acknowledge that for a long time, the acknowledge that for a long time, the rural acknowledge that for a long time, the rural suicide acknowledge that for a long time, the rural suicide rates acknowledge that for a long time, the rural suicide rates have acknowledge that for a long time, the rural suicide rates have been the rural suicide rates have been far the rural suicide rates have been far too the rural suicide rates have been far too high. the rural suicide rates have been far too high. It's the rural suicide rates have been far too high. It's a the rural suicide rates have been far too high. It's a challenge the rural suicide rates have been far too high. It's a challenge that far too high. It's a challenge that we, far too high. It's a challenge that we, as far too high. It's a challenge that we, as a far too high. It's a challenge that we, as a Government, far too high. It's a challenge that we, as a Government, have far too high. It's a challenge that we, as a Government, have taken far too high. It's a challenge that we, as a Government, have taken on. we, as a Government, have taken on. $1.9 we, as a Government, have taken on. $1.9 billion we, as a Government, have taken on. $1.9 billion for we, as a Government, have taken on. $1.9 billion for mental we, as a Government, have taken on. $1.9 billion for mental health $1.9 billion for mental health services $1.9 billion for mental health services is $1.9 billion for mental health services is a $1.9 billion for mental health services is a great $1.9 billion for mental health services is a great way $1.9 billion for mental health services is a great way to $1.9 billion for mental health services is a great way to start services is a great way to start after services is a great way to start after years, services is a great way to start after years, nine services is a great way to start after years, nine years services is a great way to start after years, nine years of services is a great way to start after years, nine years of total after years, nine years of total neglect after years, nine years of total neglect for after years, nine years of total neglect for rural after years, nine years of total neglect for rural mental after years, nine years of total neglect for rural mental health neglect for rural mental health services. neglect for rural mental health services. 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Mr Speaker, it is a terrible tragedy that we have anyone terrible tragedy that we have anyone committing terrible tragedy that we have anyone committing suicide terrible tragedy that we have anyone committing suicide in terrible tragedy that we have anyone committing suicide in this terrible tragedy that we have anyone committing suicide in this country. committing suicide in this country. The committing suicide in this country. The reality committing suicide in this country. The reality is, committing suicide in this country. The reality is, across committing suicide in this country. The reality is, across almost committing suicide in this country. 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And if opportunities in rural are immense. And if we opportunities in rural are immense. And if we highlighted opportunities in rural are immense. And if we highlighted those, opportunities in rural are immense. And if we highlighted those, Mr And if we highlighted those, Mr Speaker, And if we highlighted those, Mr Speaker, then And if we highlighted those, Mr Speaker, then I'm And if we highlighted those, Mr Speaker, then I'm sure And if we highlighted those, Mr Speaker, then I'm sure everyone And if we highlighted those, Mr Speaker, then I'm sure everyone in Speaker, then I'm sure everyone in rural Speaker, then I'm sure everyone in rural New Speaker, then I'm sure everyone in rural New Zealand Speaker, then I'm sure everyone in rural New Zealand would Speaker, then I'm sure everyone in rural New Zealand would feel Speaker, then I'm sure everyone in rural New Zealand would feel a Speaker, then I'm sure everyone in rural New Zealand would feel a lot rural New Zealand would feel a lot more rural New Zealand would feel a lot more positive. rural New Zealand would feel a lot more positive. I rural New Zealand would feel a lot more positive. I ask rural New Zealand would feel a lot more positive. I ask the rural New Zealand would feel a lot more positive. I ask the Opposition more positive. I ask the Opposition to more positive. I ask the Opposition to do more positive. I ask the Opposition to do just more positive. I ask the Opposition to do just that. more positive. I ask the Opposition to do just that. Supplementary. more positive. I ask the Opposition to do just that. Supplementary. What to do just that. Supplementary. What representations, to do just that. Supplementary. What representations, if to do just that. Supplementary. What representations, if any, to do just that. Supplementary. What representations, if any, did to do just that. Supplementary. What representations, if any, did the representations, if any, did the Minister representations, if any, did the Minister make representations, if any, did the Minister make for representations, if any, did the Minister make for the representations, if any, did the Minister make for the inclusion representations, if any, did the Minister make for the inclusion of representations, if any, did the Minister make for the inclusion of a Minister make for the inclusion of a rural Minister make for the inclusion of a rural suicide Minister make for the inclusion of a rural suicide prevention Minister make for the inclusion of a rural suicide prevention approach rural suicide prevention approach within rural suicide prevention approach within the rural suicide prevention approach within the recently rural suicide prevention approach within the recently published within the recently published Government within the recently published Government suicide within the recently published Government suicide prevention Government suicide prevention strategy Government suicide prevention strategy q Government suicide prevention strategy q Every Government suicide prevention strategy q Every Life Government suicide prevention strategy q Every Life Matters. 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Can I say - the one thing about this say - the one thing about this Government say - the one thing about this Government is say - the one thing about this Government is that say - the one thing about this Government is that every say - the one thing about this Government is that every single say - the one thing about this Government is that every single New Government is that every single New Zealander, Government is that every single New Zealander, regardless Government is that every single New Zealander, regardless of Government is that every single New Zealander, regardless of whether Zealander, regardless of whether they Zealander, regardless of whether they are Zealander, regardless of whether they are rich Zealander, regardless of whether they are rich or Zealander, regardless of whether they are rich or poor, Zealander, regardless of whether they are rich or poor, regardless Zealander, regardless of whether they are rich or poor, regardless of they are rich or poor, regardless of whether they are rich or poor, regardless of whether they they are rich or poor, regardless of whether they are they are rich or poor, regardless of whether they are white they are rich or poor, regardless of whether they are white or they are rich or poor, regardless of whether they are white or brown. whether they are white or brown. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Climate My question is to the Minister for Climate Change: My question is to the Minister for Climate Change: Does My question is to the Minister for Climate Change: Does he My question is to the Minister for Climate Change: Does he agree My question is to the Minister for Climate Change: Does he agree with Climate Change: Does he agree with Greta Climate Change: Does he agree with Greta Thunberg Climate Change: Does he agree with Greta Thunberg that Climate Change: Does he agree with Greta Thunberg that when Climate Change: Does he agree with Greta Thunberg that when it Climate Change: Does he agree with Greta Thunberg that when it comes Climate Change: Does he agree with Greta Thunberg that when it comes to Greta Thunberg that when it comes to the Greta Thunberg that when it comes to the climate Greta Thunberg that when it comes to the climate crisis, Greta Thunberg that when it comes to the climate crisis, "The Greta Thunberg that when it comes to the climate crisis, "The world Greta Thunberg that when it comes to the climate crisis, "The world is the climate crisis, "The world is waking the climate crisis, "The world is waking up. the climate crisis, "The world is waking up. And the climate crisis, "The world is waking up. And change the climate crisis, "The world is waking up. And change is the climate crisis, "The world is waking up. And change is coming, waking up. And change is coming, whether waking up. And change is coming, whether you waking up. And change is coming, whether you like waking up. And change is coming, whether you like it waking up. And change is coming, whether you like it or waking up. And change is coming, whether you like it or not"? The The Hon The Hon James The Hon James Shaw. The Hon James Shaw. Yes, The Hon James Shaw. Yes, and The Hon James Shaw. Yes, and change The Hon James Shaw. Yes, and change is The Hon James Shaw. Yes, and change is coming The Hon James Shaw. Yes, and change is coming in The Hon James Shaw. Yes, and change is coming in New The Hon James Shaw. Yes, and change is coming in New Zealand The Hon James Shaw. Yes, and change is coming in New Zealand after is coming in New Zealand after decades is coming in New Zealand after decades of is coming in New Zealand after decades of passing is coming in New Zealand after decades of passing the is coming in New Zealand after decades of passing the buck is coming in New Zealand after decades of passing the buck on decades of passing the buck on climate decades of passing the buck on climate change. decades of passing the buck on climate change. Change decades of passing the buck on climate change. Change takes decades of passing the buck on climate change. Change takes time climate change. Change takes time but climate change. Change takes time but our climate change. Change takes time but our Government climate change. Change takes time but our Government is climate change. Change takes time but our Government is very climate change. 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What safe and stable climate for future generations. What kinds safe and stable climate for future generations. What kinds of safe and stable climate for future generations. What kinds of change generations. What kinds of change might generations. What kinds of change might New generations. What kinds of change might New Zealanders generations. What kinds of change might New Zealanders see generations. What kinds of change might New Zealanders see as generations. What kinds of change might New Zealanders see as part generations. What kinds of change might New Zealanders see as part of might New Zealanders see as part of the might New Zealanders see as part of the just might New Zealanders see as part of the just transition might New Zealanders see as part of the just transition to might New Zealanders see as part of the just transition to a the just transition to a low-emissions the just transition to a low-emissions economy? the just transition to a low-emissions economy? People the just transition to a low-emissions economy? People will low-emissions economy? People will see low-emissions economy? People will see more low-emissions economy? People will see more electric low-emissions economy? People will see more electric cars low-emissions economy? People will see more electric cars on low-emissions economy? People will see more electric cars on the low-emissions economy? 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People will see more trees for kids to cycle to school. People will see more trees planted for kids to cycle to school. People will see more trees planted in for kids to cycle to school. People will see more trees planted in the will see more trees planted in the right will see more trees planted in the right places. will see more trees planted in the right places. Can will see more trees planted in the right places. Can he will see more trees planted in the right places. Can he assure will see more trees planted in the right places. Can he assure coastal right places. Can he assure coastal communities right places. Can he assure coastal communities and right places. Can he assure coastal communities and local right places. Can he assure coastal communities and local Government communities and local Government communities and local Government communities and local Government that the communities and local Government that the Government communities and local Government that the Government is communities and local Government that the Government is working communities and local Government that the Government is working to that the Government is working to that the Government is working to that the Government is working to help them that the Government is working to help them prepare that the Government is working to help them prepare for that the Government is working to help them prepare for the that the Government is working to help them prepare for the effects that the Government is working to help them prepare for the effects of help them prepare for the effects of climate help them prepare for the effects of climate change? help them prepare for the effects of climate change? Yes, help them prepare for the effects of climate change? Yes, I help them prepare for the effects of climate change? Yes, I can. help them prepare for the effects of climate change? Yes, I can. Our climate change? Yes, I can. Our Government climate change? Yes, I can. Our Government understands climate change? Yes, I can. Our Government understands that climate change? Yes, I can. Our Government understands that we climate change? Yes, I can. 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As rising seas, more extreme weather and droughts. As Minister rising seas, more extreme weather and droughts. As Minister for and droughts. As Minister for and droughts. As Minister for and droughts. As Minister for Climate Change, and droughts. As Minister for Climate Change, what and droughts. As Minister for Climate Change, what is and droughts. As Minister for Climate Change, what is his and droughts. As Minister for Climate Change, what is his view and droughts. 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I talked to many students and New Zealanders of all ages who and New Zealanders of all ages who feel and New Zealanders of all ages who feel that and New Zealanders of all ages who feel that we and New Zealanders of all ages who feel that we are and New Zealanders of all ages who feel that we are in and New Zealanders of all ages who feel that we are in an and New Zealanders of all ages who feel that we are in an unstoppable feel that we are in an unstoppable decent feel that we are in an unstoppable decent into feel that we are in an unstoppable decent into a feel that we are in an unstoppable decent into a climate feel that we are in an unstoppable decent into a climate change decent into a climate change disaster. decent into a climate change disaster. Some decent into a climate change disaster. Some feel decent into a climate change disaster. Some feel helpless decent into a climate change disaster. Some feel helpless like disaster. Some feel helpless like there disaster. 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As someone who grew up under the inevitability. As someone who grew up under the threat inevitability. As someone who grew up under the threat of inevitability. As someone who grew up under the threat of nuclear up under the threat of nuclear annihilation up under the threat of nuclear annihilation in up under the threat of nuclear annihilation in the up under the threat of nuclear annihilation in the 1980s up under the threat of nuclear annihilation in the 1980s I up under the threat of nuclear annihilation in the 1980s I can annihilation in the 1980s I can relate annihilation in the 1980s I can relate to annihilation in the 1980s I can relate to their annihilation in the 1980s I can relate to their anxiety annihilation in the 1980s I can relate to their anxiety but annihilation in the 1980s I can relate to their anxiety but I annihilation in the 1980s I can relate to their anxiety but I also relate to their anxiety but I also say relate to their anxiety but I also say to relate to their anxiety but I also say to them relate to their anxiety but I also say to them it relate to their anxiety but I also say to them it is relate to their anxiety but I also say to them it is not relate to their anxiety but I also say to them it is not inevitable, say to them it is not inevitable, things say to them it is not inevitable, things can say to them it is not inevitable, things can change say to them it is not inevitable, things can change and say to them it is not inevitable, things can change and I say to them it is not inevitable, things can change and I ask say to them it is not inevitable, things can change and I ask them say to them it is not inevitable, things can change and I ask them to things can change and I ask them to continue things can change and I ask them to continue to things can change and I ask them to continue to hold things can change and I ask them to continue to hold us things can change and I ask them to continue to hold us and things can change and I ask them to continue to hold us and all things can change and I ask them to continue to hold us and all of continue to hold us and all of parliament continue to hold us and all of continue continue to hold us and all of parliament to account. continue to hold us and all of parliament to account. Keep parliament to account. Keep demanding parliament to account. Keep demanding more parliament to account. Keep demanding more of parliament to account. Keep demanding more of us. parliament to account. Keep demanding more of us. They parliament to account. Keep demanding more of us. They might parliament to account. Keep demanding more of us. They might not demanding more of us. They might not have demanding more of us. They might not have been demanding more of us. They might not have been old demanding more of us. They might not have been old enough demanding more of us. They might not have been old enough to demanding more of us. They might not have been old enough to vote demanding more of us. They might not have been old enough to vote in demanding more of us. 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Is it just young people who are their representatives. Is it just young people who are calling their representatives. Is it just young people who are calling for young people who are calling for young people who are calling for young people who are calling for stronger Government young people who are calling for stronger Government policies young people who are calling for stronger Government policies on stronger Government policies on climate stronger Government policies on climate change? stronger Government policies on climate change? Actually, stronger Government policies on climate change? Actually, no. stronger Government policies on climate change? Actually, no. I stronger Government policies on climate change? Actually, no. I was climate change? Actually, no. I was pleased climate change? Actually, no. I was pleased to climate change? Actually, no. I was pleased to see climate change? Actually, no. I was pleased to see the climate change? Actually, no. I was pleased to see the submission climate change? Actually, no. I was pleased to see the submission on climate change? Actually, no. 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