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INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: Almighty INTERPRETER: Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. Today Today the Today the House Today the House will Today the House will adjourn Today the House will adjourn until Today the House will adjourn until Tuesday Today the House will adjourn until Tuesday 5 Today the House will adjourn until Tuesday 5 November. Today the House will adjourn until Tuesday 5 November. In Today the House will adjourn until Tuesday 5 November. In that Today the House will adjourn until Tuesday 5 November. In that week Today the House will adjourn until Tuesday 5 November. In that week the Tuesday 5 November. In that week the climate Tuesday 5 November. In that week the climate change Tuesday 5 November. In that week the climate change response Tuesday 5 November. In that week the climate change response zero Tuesday 5 November. In that week the climate change response zero carbon climate change response zero carbon amendment climate change response zero carbon amendment bill climate change response zero carbon amendment bill will climate change response zero carbon amendment bill will pass climate change response zero carbon amendment bill will pass through climate change response zero carbon amendment bill will pass through its amendment bill will pass through its remaining amendment bill will pass through its remaining stages amendment bill will pass through its remaining stages and amendment bill will pass through its remaining stages and the amendment bill will pass through its remaining stages and the climate remaining stages and the climate change remaining stages and the climate change response remaining stages and the climate change response emissions remaining stages and the climate change response emissions trading change response emissions trading reform change response emissions trading reform amendment change response emissions trading reform amendment bill change response emissions trading reform amendment bill will change response emissions trading reform amendment bill will receive reform amendment bill will receive its reform amendment bill will receive its first reform amendment bill will receive its first reading. reform amendment bill will receive its first reading. Other reform amendment bill will receive its first reading. Other legislation its first reading. Other legislation that its first reading. Other legislation that will its first reading. Other legislation that will progress its first reading. Other legislation that will progress will its first reading. Other legislation that will progress will include its first reading. Other legislation that will progress will include the that will progress will include the Criminal that will progress will include the Criminal Cases that will progress will include the Criminal Cases Review that will progress will include the Criminal Cases Review Commission Criminal Cases Review Commission Bill, Criminal Cases Review Commission Bill, the Criminal Cases Review Commission Bill, the health Criminal Cases Review Commission Bill, the health nationaler Criminal Cases Review Commission Bill, the health nationaler is Criminal Cases Review Commission Bill, the health nationaler is vive Bill, the health nationaler is vive call Bill, the health nationaler is vive call screening Bill, the health nationaler is vive call screening programme Bill, the health nationaler is vive call screening programme amendment Bill, the health nationaler is vive bill, the Bill, the health nationaler is vive bill, the Organ Bill, the health nationaler is vive bill, the Organ Donors Bill, the health nationaler is vive bill, the Organ Donors and Bill, the health nationaler is vive bill, the Organ Donors and Related bill, the Organ Donors and Related Matters bill, the Organ Donors and Related Matters Bill, bill, the Organ Donors and Related Matters Bill, and bill, the Organ Donors and Related Matters Bill, and the bill, the Organ Donors and Related Matters Bill, and the land bill, the Organ Donors and Related Matters Bill, and the land transport Matters Bill, and the land transport wheelment Matters Bill, and the land transport wheelment clamping Matters Bill, and the land transport wheelment clamping amendment Matters Bill, and the land transport wheelment clamping amendment bill. wheelment clamping amendment bill. No wheelment clamping amendment bill. No papers wheelment clamping amendment bill. No papers have wheelment clamping amendment bill. No papers have been wheelment clamping amendment bill. No papers have been presented. have have been have been presented. have been presented. Petitions have been presented. Petitions have have been presented. Petitions have been have been presented. Petitions have been delivered have been presented. Petitions have been delivered to have been presented. Petitions have been delivered to the have been presented. Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk have been presented. Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for been delivered to the Clerk for presentation. presentation. Petition presentation. Petition of presentation. Petition of Christine presentation. Petition of Christine McCarthy Petition of Christine McCarthy requesting Petition of Christine McCarthy requesting that Petition of Christine McCarthy requesting that the Petition of Christine McCarthy requesting that the House Petition of Christine McCarthy requesting that the House increase requesting that the House increase the requesting that the House increase the minimum requesting that the House increase the minimum age requesting that the House increase the minimum age of requesting that the House increase the minimum age of criminal the minimum age of criminal responsibility the minimum age of criminal responsibility to the minimum age of criminal responsibility to 16 the minimum age of criminal responsibility to 16 years the minimum age of criminal responsibility to 16 years old. responsibility to 16 years old. Petition responsibility to 16 years old. Petition of responsibility to 16 years old. Petition of Erin responsibility to 16 years old. Petition of Erin Hampson-Tindale Petition of Erin Hampson-Tindale requesting Petition of Erin Hampson-Tindale requesting that Petition of Erin Hampson-Tindale requesting that the Petition of Erin Hampson-Tindale requesting that the House Petition of Erin Hampson-Tindale requesting that the House of requesting that the House of Representatives requesting that the House of Representatives pass requesting that the House of Representatives pass legislation Representatives pass legislation banning Representatives pass legislation banning the Representatives pass legislation banning the live Representatives pass legislation banning the live export Representatives pass legislation banning the live export of Representatives pass legislation banning the live export of our banning the live export of our treasured banning the live export of our treasured native banning the live export of our treasured native eels. treasured native eels. Petition treasured native eels. Petition of Petition of Marianne Petition of Marianne Macdonald Petition of Marianne Macdonald requesting Petition of Marianne Macdonald requesting that Marianne Macdonald requesting that the Marianne Macdonald requesting that the House Marianne Macdonald requesting that the House pass Marianne Macdonald requesting that the House pass legislation Marianne Macdonald requesting that the House pass legislation to the House pass legislation to prohibit the House pass legislation to prohibit the the House pass legislation to prohibit the live the House pass legislation to prohibit the live export the House pass legislation to prohibit the live export of the House pass legislation to prohibit the live export of farmed prohibit the live export of farmed animals prohibit the live export of farmed animals to prohibit the live export of farmed animals to countries prohibit the live export of farmed animals to countries that prohibit the live export of farmed animals to countries that have prohibit the live export of farmed animals to countries that have lower animals to countries that have lower animal animals to countries that have lower animal welfare, animals to countries that have lower animal welfare, transport animals to countries that have lower animal welfare, transport and animal welfare, transport and slaughter animal welfare, transport and slaughter standards animal welfare, transport and slaughter standards than animal welfare, transport and slaughter standards than New slaughter standards than New Zealand. 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Reports of the Governance and Reports of the Governance and Administration Reports of the Governance and Administration Committee Reports of the Governance and Administration Committee on Reports of the Governance and Administration Committee on the Administration Committee on the Parliamentary Administration Committee on the Parliamentary Agencies Administration Committee on the Parliamentary Agencies Delegations Parliamentary Agencies Delegations Legislation Parliamentary Agencies Delegations Legislation Bill Legislation Bill Petition Legislation Bill Petition of Legislation Bill Petition of Susan Legislation Bill Petition of Susan Wann Legislation Bill Petition of Susan Wann - Legislation Bill Petition of Susan Wann - Independent Petition of Susan Wann - Independent inquiry Petition of Susan Wann - Independent inquiry into Petition of Susan Wann - Independent inquiry into Auckland Petition of Susan Wann - Independent inquiry into Auckland Council's inquiry into Auckland Council's performance inquiry into Auckland Council's performance followed inquiry into Auckland Council's performance followed by inquiry into Auckland Council's performance followed by reform. performance followed by reform. 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Climate Change Response (Emissions Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading Reform) Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading Reform) Amendment Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading Reform) Amendment Bill Climate Change Response (Emissions Trading Reform) Amendment Bill - Trading Reform) Amendment Bill - introduction introduction That introduction That bill introduction That bill is introduction That bill is set introduction That bill is set down That bill is set down for That bill is set down for first That bill is set down for first reading. for first reading. The for first reading. The House for first reading. The House comes for first reading. The House comes to for first reading. The House comes to Oral for first reading. The House comes to Oral Questions. The House comes to Oral Questions. Question The House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. The House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. 1. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: My question is to the Prime Minister: Does My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all her Minister: Does she stand by all her Government's Minister: Does she stand by all her Government's policies Minister: Does she stand by all her Government's policies and Government's policies and statements? The The Rt The Rt Hon The Rt Hon Winston The Rt Hon Winston Peters. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the PM, The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the PM, yes, The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the PM, yes, and The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the PM, yes, and especially The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the PM, yes, and especially this of the PM, yes, and especially this week. of the PM, yes, and especially this week. Supplementary, of the PM, yes, and especially this week. Supplementary, why of the PM, yes, and especially this week. Supplementary, why is of the PM, yes, and especially this week. Supplementary, why is it of the PM, yes, and especially this week. Supplementary, why is it her week. Supplementary, why is it her Government's week. Supplementary, why is it her Government's policy week. Supplementary, why is it her Government's policy to week. Supplementary, why is it her Government's policy to allow week. Supplementary, why is it her Government's policy to allow foreign Government's policy to allow foreign investors Government's policy to allow foreign investors to Government's policy to allow foreign investors to buy Government's policy to allow foreign investors to buy large Government's policy to allow foreign investors to buy large tracts Government's policy to allow foreign investors to buy large tracts of investors to buy large tracts of land investors to buy large tracts of land in investors to buy large tracts of land in New investors to buy large tracts of land in New Zealand? investors to buy large tracts of land in New Zealand? On investors to buy large tracts of land in New Zealand? On behalf investors to buy large tracts of land in New Zealand? On behalf of land in New Zealand? On behalf of the land in New Zealand? On behalf of the PM, land in New Zealand? On behalf of the PM, that land in New Zealand? On behalf of the PM, that is land in New Zealand? On behalf of the PM, that is not land in New Zealand? On behalf of the PM, that is not the land in New Zealand? On behalf of the PM, that is not the case, land in New Zealand? 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The reality of the matter is unlike the reality of the matter is unlike the previous reality of the matter is unlike the previous administration reality of the matter is unlike the previous administration which reality of the matter is unlike the previous administration which had reality of the matter is unlike the previous administration which had no previous administration which had no controls previous administration which had no controls at previous administration which had no controls at all, previous administration which had no controls at all, we previous administration which had no controls at all, we specifically controls at all, we specifically relate controls at all, we specifically relate this controls at all, we specifically relate this to controls at all, we specifically relate this to investors controls at all, we specifically relate this to investors in controls at all, we specifically relate this to investors in forestry relate this to investors in forestry where relate this to investors in forestry where there relate this to investors in forestry where there is relate this to investors in forestry where there is added relate this to investors in forestry where there is added value relate this to investors in forestry where there is added value and relate this to investors in forestry where there is added value and a where there is added value and a growth where there is added value and a growth of where there is added value and a growth of exports where there is added value and a growth of exports and where there is added value and a growth of exports and jobs where there is added value and a growth of exports and jobs in where there is added value and a growth of exports and jobs in this growth of exports and jobs in this country. growth of exports and jobs in this country. Order! growth of exports and jobs in this country. Order! Before growth of exports and jobs in this country. Order! Before we growth of exports and jobs in this country. Order! Before we have growth of exports and jobs in this country. Order! Before we have the country. Order! Before we have the next country. Order! Before we have the next supplementary, country. Order! Before we have the next supplementary, I country. Order! Before we have the next supplementary, I don't country. Order! Before we have the next supplementary, I don't know country. Order! 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Did her ministers not grant a standing consent to pan grant a standing consent to pan Pacific grant a standing consent to pan Pacific forest grant a standing consent to pan Pacific forest products Pacific forest products covering Pacific forest products Pacific forest products covering 20,000 hectares Pacific forest products covering 20,000 hectares of Pacific forest products covering 20,000 hectares of land Pacific forest products covering 20,000 hectares of land in Pacific forest products covering 20,000 hectares of land in the Pacific forest products covering 20,000 hectares of land in the next 20,000 hectares of land in the next three 20,000 hectares of land in the next three years? 20,000 hectares of land in the next three years? On 20,000 hectares of land in the next three years? On behalf 20,000 hectares of land in the next three years? On behalf of 20,000 hectares of land in the next three years? On behalf of the 20,000 hectares of land in the next three years? On behalf of the PM, three years? On behalf of the PM, yes, three years? On behalf of the PM, yes, but three years? On behalf of the PM, yes, but remember three years? On behalf of the PM, yes, but remember that three years? On behalf of the PM, yes, but remember that the three years? On behalf of the PM, yes, but remember that the National yes, but remember that the National Party yes, but remember that the National Party gave yes, but remember that the National Party gave numerous yes, but remember that the National Party gave numerous consents yes, but remember that the National Party gave numerous consents to yes, but remember that the National Party gave numerous consents to pan Party gave numerous consents to pan pack Party gave numerous consents to pan pack when Party gave numerous consents to pan pack when they Party gave numerous consents to pan pack when they were Party gave numerous consents to pan pack when they were in Party gave numerous consents to pan pack when they were in office pack when they were in office including pack when they were in office including allowing pack when they were in office including allowing their pack when they were in office including allowing their owner including allowing their owner Oceania including allowing their owner Oceania to including allowing their owner Oceania to buy including allowing their owner Oceania to buy Carter including allowing their owner Oceania to buy Carter hold including allowing their owner Oceania to buy Carter hold Harvey including allowing their owner Oceania to buy Carter hold Harvey in Oceania to buy Carter hold Harvey in 2014 Oceania to buy Carter hold Harvey in 2014 for Oceania to buy Carter hold Harvey in 2014 for $1 Oceania to buy Carter hold Harvey in 2014 for $1 billion. Oceania to buy Carter hold Harvey in 2014 for $1 billion. Is Oceania to buy Carter hold Harvey in 2014 for $1 billion. Is the Oceania to buy Carter hold Harvey in 2014 for $1 billion. Is the PM 2014 for $1 billion. Is the PM affair 2014 for $1 billion. Is the PM affair of 2014 for $1 billion. Is the PM affair of Winston 2014 for $1 billion. Is the PM affair of Winston Peters's 2014 for $1 billion. 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We in New Zealand First are going foreigners. We in New Zealand First are going to foreigners. We in New Zealand First are going to stop foreigners. We in New Zealand First are going to stop land foreigners. We in New Zealand First are going to stop land sales foreigners. We in New Zealand First are going to stop land sales to are going to stop land sales to foreigners"? are going to stop land sales to foreigners"? In are going to stop land sales to foreigners"? In this are going to stop land sales to foreigners"? In this case are going to stop land sales to foreigners"? In this case we are going to stop land sales to foreigners"? In this case we have foreigners"? In this case we have stopped foreigners"? In this case we have stopped the foreigners"? In this case we have stopped the sale foreigners"? In this case we have stopped the sale of foreigners"? In this case we have stopped the sale of 440,000. foreigners"? In this case we have stopped the sale of 440,000. Why foreigners"? 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Nick long-term challenge for New Zealand. Nick Collins long-term challenge for New Zealand. Nick Collins the long-term challenge for New Zealand. Nick Collins the CE long-term challenge for New Zealand. Nick Collins the CE of long-term challenge for New Zealand. Nick Collins the CE of Metals long-term challenge for New Zealand. Nick Collins the CE of Metals New Nick Collins the CE of Metals New Nick Collins the CE of Metals New Nick Collins the CE of Metals New Zealand said Nick Collins the CE of Metals New Zealand said that Nick Collins the CE of Metals New Zealand said that the Nick Collins the CE of Metals New Zealand said that the building Nick Collins the CE of Metals New Zealand said that the building and Zealand said that the building and construction Zealand said that the building and construction sector Zealand said that the building and construction sector would Zealand said that the building and construction sector would gain Zealand said that the building and construction sector would gain much construction sector would gain much needed construction sector would gain much needed stimulus construction sector would gain much needed stimulus and construction sector would gain much needed stimulus and support construction sector would gain much needed stimulus and support in needed stimulus and support in needed stimulus and support in needed stimulus and support in building a needed stimulus and support in building a skilled needed stimulus and support in building a skilled work needed stimulus and support in building a skilled work force. needed stimulus and support in building a skilled work force. 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The New Zealand Institute of Buildings New Zealand Institute of Buildings chief New Zealand Institute of Buildings chief executive New Zealand Institute of Buildings chief executive Malcolm New Zealand Institute of Buildings chief executive Malcolm Fleming New Zealand Institute of Buildings chief executive Malcolm Fleming said chief executive Malcolm Fleming said chief executive Malcolm Fleming said chief executive Malcolm Fleming said the rules chief executive Malcolm Fleming said the rules were chief executive Malcolm Fleming said the rules were a chief executive Malcolm Fleming said the rules were a positive chief executive Malcolm Fleming said the rules were a positive signal the rules were a positive signal from the rules were a positive signal from the the rules were a positive signal from the Government the rules were a positive signal from the Government and the rules were a positive signal from the Government and David the rules were a positive signal from the Government and David Kelly from the Government and David Kelly of from the Government and David Kelly of the from the Government and David Kelly of the master from the Government and David Kelly of the master builders from the Government and David Kelly of the master builders said from the Government and David Kelly of the master builders said the from the Government and David Kelly of the master builders said the new of the master builders said the new guidelines of the master builders said the new guidelines had of the master builders said the new guidelines had the of the master builders said the new guidelines had the potential of the master builders said the new guidelines had the potential to guidelines had the potential to significantly guidelines had the potential to significantly improve guidelines had the potential to significantly improve the guidelines had the potential to significantly improve the quality significantly improve the quality and significantly improve the quality guidelines significantly improve the quality and consistency of significantly improve the quality and consistency of how significantly improve the quality and consistency of how Government and consistency of how Government construction and consistency of how Government construction projects and consistency of how Government construction projects were construction projects were delivered. construction projects were delivered. 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All All figures All figures need All figures need to All figures need to be All figures need to be considered All figures need to be considered in All figures need to be considered in context. All figures need to be considered in context. I All figures need to be considered in context. I am All figures need to be considered in context. I am satisfied All figures need to be considered in context. I am satisfied that All figures need to be considered in context. I am satisfied that exits context. I am satisfied that exits into context. I am satisfied that exits into employment context. I am satisfied that exits into employment are context. I am satisfied that exits into employment are up context. I am satisfied that exits into employment are up 13.3%. context. I am satisfied that exits into employment are up 13.3%. The into employment are up 13.3%. The percentage into employment are up 13.3%. The percentage of into employment are up 13.3%. The percentage of the into employment are up 13.3%. The percentage of the working into employment are up 13.3%. 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Our unemployment under the previous Government. Our unemployment rate under the previous Government. Our unemployment rate of under the previous Government. Our unemployment rate of 3.9% under the previous Government. Our unemployment rate of 3.9% is under the previous Government. Our unemployment rate of 3.9% is at under the previous Government. Our unemployment rate of 3.9% is at its unemployment rate of 3.9% is at its lowest unemployment rate of 3.9% is at its lowest in unemployment rate of 3.9% is at its lowest in over unemployment rate of 3.9% is at its lowest in over a unemployment rate of 3.9% is at its lowest in over a decade. unemployment rate of 3.9% is at its lowest in over a decade. Neat unemployment rate of 3.9% is at its lowest in over a decade. Neat rates lowest in over a decade. Neat rates and lowest in over a decade. Neat rates and youth lowest in over a decade. Neat rates and youth payment lowest in over a decade. 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Is there more to do in of course there is but I am to do in of course there is but I am confident to do in of course there is but I am confident our to do in of course there is but I am confident our Government to do in of course there is but I am confident our Government is to do in of course there is but I am confident our Government is on to do in of course there is but I am confident our Government is on the confident our Government is on the right confident our Government is on the right frack. confident our Government is on the right frack. How confident our Government is on the right frack. How many confident our Government is on the right frack. How many more confident our Government is on the right frack. How many more Maori confident our Government is on the right frack. How many more Maori and right frack. How many more Maori and how right frack. How many more Maori and how many right frack. How many more Maori and how many more right frack. 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No, Mr Speaker, but this Government planted in the right place? 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Does he agree with his fellow Supplementary. Does he agree with his fellow Cabinet Supplementary. Does he agree with his fellow Cabinet minister Supplementary. Does he agree with his fellow Cabinet minister Shane his fellow Cabinet minister Shane Jones, his fellow Cabinet minister Shane Jones, when his fellow Cabinet minister Shane Jones, when he his fellow Cabinet minister Shane Jones, when he said his fellow Cabinet minister Shane Jones, when he said quote, his fellow Cabinet minister Shane Jones, when he said quote, "I his fellow Cabinet minister Shane Jones, when he said quote, "I would Jones, when he said quote, "I would say Jones, when he said quote, "I would say to Jones, when he said quote, "I would say to the Jones, when he said quote, "I would say to the activists Jones, when he said quote, "I would say to the activists from Jones, when he said quote, "I would say to the activists from the Jones, when he said quote, "I would say to the activists from the Indian say to the activists from the Indian community, say to the activists from the Indian community, tone say to the activists from the Indian community, tone down say to the activists from the Indian community, tone down your say to the activists from the Indian community, tone down your rhetoric, community, tone down your rhetoric, you community, tone down your rhetoric, you have community, tone down your rhetoric, you have no community, tone down your rhetoric, you have no legitimate community, tone down your rhetoric, you have no legitimate expectations you have no legitimate expectations in you have no legitimate expectations in my you have no legitimate expectations in my view you have no legitimate expectations in my view to you have no legitimate expectations in my view to bring you have no legitimate expectations in my view to bring your you have no legitimate expectations in my view to bring your whole in my view to bring your whole village in my view to bring your whole village to in my view to bring your whole village to New in my view to bring your whole village to New Zealand." in my view to bring your whole village to New Zealand." 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Does the minister believe it is fair Does the minister believe it is fair for Does the minister believe it is fair for New Does the minister believe it is fair for New Zealand Does the minister believe it is fair for New Zealand citizens Does the minister believe it is fair for New Zealand citizens and for New Zealand citizens and permanent for New Zealand citizens and permanent residents for New Zealand citizens and permanent residents and for New Zealand citizens and permanent residents and non-resident permanent residents and non-resident Indian permanent residents and non-resident Indian marriages permanent residents and non-resident Indian marriages to permanent residents and non-resident Indian marriages to leave permanent residents and non-resident Indian marriages to leave New Indian marriages to leave New Zealand Indian marriages to leave New Zealand in Indian marriages to leave New Zealand in order Indian marriages to leave New Zealand in order to Indian marriages to leave New Zealand in order to be Indian marriages to leave New Zealand in order to be with Indian marriages to leave New Zealand in order to be with their Zealand in order to be with their partners, Zealand in order to be with their partners, who Zealand in order to be with their partners, who are Zealand in order to be with their partners, who are unable Zealand in order to be with their partners, who are unable to Zealand in order to be with their partners, who are unable to get Zealand in order to be with their partners, who are unable to get a partners, who are unable to get a partnership partners, who are unable to get a partnership visa, partners, who are unable to get a partnership visa, as partners, who are unable to get a partnership visa, as they partners, who are unable to get a partnership visa, as they don't partners, who are unable to get a partnership visa, as they don't meet partnership visa, as they don't meet the partnership visa, as they don't meet the living partnership visa, as they don't meet the living together partnership visa, as they don't meet the living together requirement? partnership visa, as they don't meet the living together requirement? 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I encourage partnership arrangements for visas for people to apply. I encourage the for people to apply. I encourage the member, for people to apply. I encourage the member, should for people to apply. I encourage the member, should he for people to apply. I encourage the member, should he have for people to apply. I encourage the member, should he have constituents member, should he have constituents who member, should he have constituents who have member, should he have constituents who have looking member, should he have constituents who have looking to member, should he have constituents who have looking to make member, should he have constituents who have looking to make those who have looking to make those applications, who have looking to make those applications, to who have looking to make those applications, to apply who have looking to make those applications, to apply directly who have looking to make those applications, to apply directly to applications, to apply directly to Immigration applications, to apply directly to Immigration NZ. applications, to apply directly to Immigration NZ. These applications, to apply directly to Immigration NZ. These are applications, to apply directly to Immigration NZ. These are matters Immigration NZ. These are matters for Immigration NZ. These are matters for the Immigration NZ. These are matters for the Immigration Immigration NZ. These are matters for the Immigration NZ Immigration NZ. These are matters for the Immigration NZ operational for the Immigration NZ operational system. Supplementary Supplementary question Supplementary question to Supplementary question to the Supplementary question to the minister. Supplementary question to the minister. Does Supplementary question to the minister. Does the Supplementary question to the minister. Does the minister Supplementary question to the minister. Does the minister agree minister. Does the minister agree that minister. Does the minister agree that the minister. Does the minister agree that the national minister. Does the minister agree that the national visa minister. 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