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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. . . Point . Point of . Point of order. . Point of order. The . Point of order. The Hon . Point of order. The Hon Grant . Point of order. The Hon Grant Robertson. . Point of order. The Hon Grant Robertson. I . Point of order. The Hon Grant Robertson. I seek . Point of order. The Hon Grant Robertson. I seek leave . Point of order. The Hon Grant Robertson. I seek leave to . Point of order. The Hon Grant Robertson. I seek leave to move . Point of order. The Hon Grant Robertson. I seek leave to move a Robertson. I seek leave to move a motion Robertson. I seek leave to move a motion without Robertson. I seek leave to move a motion without notice Robertson. I seek leave to move a motion without notice on Robertson. I seek leave to move a motion without notice on the Robertson. I seek leave to move a motion without notice on the passing motion without notice on the passing of motion without notice on the passing of Sir motion without notice on the passing of Sir Peter motion without notice on the passing of Sir Peter Snell. motion without notice on the passing of Sir Peter Snell. Any motion without notice on the passing of Sir Peter Snell. Any objection motion without notice on the passing of Sir Peter Snell. Any objection to of Sir Peter Snell. Any objection to this of Sir Peter Snell. Any objection to this course of Sir Peter Snell. Any objection to this course of of Sir Peter Snell. Any objection to this course of action? of Sir Peter Snell. Any objection to this course of action? There of Sir Peter Snell. Any objection to this course of action? There appears this course of action? There appears to this course of action? There appears to be this course of action? There appears to be none. this course of action? There appears to be none. 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I I move, I move, that I move, that this I move, that this House I move, that this House mark I move, that this House mark the I move, that this House mark the passing I move, that this House mark the passing of I move, that this House mark the passing of one I move, that this House mark the passing of one of I move, that this House mark the passing of one of New I move, that this House mark the passing of one of New Zealand's passing of one of New Zealand's greatest passing of one of New Zealand's greatest athletes, passing of one of New Zealand's greatest athletes, Sir passing of one of New Zealand's greatest athletes, Sir Peter passing of one of New Zealand's greatest athletes, Sir Peter Snell greatest athletes, Sir Peter Snell KNZM, greatest athletes, Sir Peter Snell KNZM, OBE, greatest athletes, Sir Peter Snell KNZM, OBE, note greatest athletes, Sir Peter Snell KNZM, OBE, note that greatest athletes, Sir Peter Snell KNZM, OBE, note that he greatest athletes, Sir Peter Snell KNZM, OBE, note that he won greatest athletes, Sir Peter Snell KNZM, OBE, note that he won three KNZM, OBE, note that he won three Olympic KNZM, OBE, note that he won three Olympic gold KNZM, OBE, note that he won three Olympic gold medals, KNZM, OBE, note that he won three Olympic gold medals, including KNZM, OBE, note that he won three Olympic gold medals, including the Olympic gold medals, including the 800 Olympic gold medals, including the 800 and Olympic gold medals, including the 800 and 1500 Olympic gold medals, including the 800 and 1500 metre Olympic gold medals, including the 800 and 1500 metre double Olympic gold medals, including the 800 and 1500 metre double in Olympic gold medals, including the 800 and 1500 metre double in 1964, 800 and 1500 metre double in 1964, and 800 and 1500 metre double in 1964, and that 800 and 1500 metre double in 1964, and that he 800 and 1500 metre double in 1964, and that he set 800 and 1500 metre double in 1964, and that he set at 800 and 1500 metre double in 1964, and that he set at least 800 and 1500 metre double in 1964, and that he set at least six 800 and 1500 metre double in 1964, and that he set at least six world and that he set at least six world records, and that he set at least six world records, including and that he set at least six world records, including three and that he set at least six world records, including three in and that he set at least six world records, including three in one and that he set at least six world records, including three in one week records, including three in one week in records, including three in one week in 1962; records, including three in one week in 1962; further, records, including three in one week in 1962; further, that records, including three in one week in 1962; further, that he records, including three in one week in 1962; further, that he was records, including three in one week in 1962; further, that he was named in 1962; further, that he was named New in 1962; further, that he was named New Zealand's in 1962; further, that he was named New Zealand's Sports in 1962; further, that he was named New Zealand's Sports Champion in 1962; further, that he was named New Zealand's Sports Champion of in 1962; further, that he was named New Zealand's Sports Champion of the New Zealand's Sports Champion of the 20th New Zealand's Sports Champion of the 20th Century, New Zealand's Sports Champion of the 20th Century, that New Zealand's Sports Champion of the 20th Century, that he New Zealand's Sports Champion of the 20th Century, that he made New Zealand's Sports Champion of the 20th Century, that he made a 20th Century, that he made a significant 20th Century, that he made a significant contribution 20th Century, that he made a significant contribution to 20th Century, that he made a significant contribution to sports significant contribution to sports science, significant contribution to sports science, and significant contribution to sports science, and that significant contribution to sports science, and that this significant contribution to sports science, and that this House significant contribution to sports science, significant contribution to sports celebrate him as significant contribution to sports celebrate him as a significant contribution to sports celebrate him as a great significant contribution to sports celebrate him as a great New celebrate him as a great New Zealander. 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In the 1960 Olympics in Rome, Sir Peter took to the track in Rome, Sir Peter took to the track in the Rome, Sir Peter took to the track in the 800m Rome, Sir Peter took to the track in the 800m final Rome, Sir Peter took to the track in the 800m final as Rome, Sir Peter took to the track in the 800m final as an Rome, Sir Peter took to the track in the 800m final as an unknown. the 800m final as an unknown. Running the 800m final as an unknown. Running from the 800m final as an unknown. Running from last the 800m final as an unknown. Running from last to the 800m final as an unknown. Running from last to first the 800m final as an unknown. Running from last to first within the 800m final as an unknown. 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New Zealand athletes to set a new 4 x 1 mile relay record. Sir New Zealand athletes to set a new 4 x 1 mile relay record. Sir Pete's x 1 mile relay record. Sir Pete's former x 1 mile relay record. Sir Pete's former world x 1 mile relay record. Sir Pete's former world records x 1 mile relay record. Sir Pete's former world records of x 1 mile relay record. Sir Pete's former world records of 1 x 1 mile relay record. Sir Pete's former world records of 1 hint x 1 mile relay record. 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He for a standard track and field event. He remains for a standard track and field event. He remains the for a standard track and field event. He remains the only for a standard track and field event. He remains the only man for a standard track and field event. He remains the only man since event. He remains the only man since 1920 event. He remains the only man since 1920 to event. He remains the only man since 1920 to have event. He remains the only man since 1920 to have won event. He remains the only man since 1920 to have won both event. He remains the only man since 1920 to have won both the event. He remains the only man since 1920 to have won both the 800 event. He remains the only man since 1920 to have won both the 800 and 1920 to have won both the 800 and 1,500 1920 to have won both the 800 and 1,500 events 1920 to have won both the 800 and 1,500 events at 1920 to have won both the 800 and 1,500 events at the 1920 to have won both the 800 and 1,500 events at the same 1920 to have won both the 800 and 1,500 events at the same Games. 1,500 events at the same Games. Although 1,500 events at the same Games. Although Sir 1,500 events at the same Games. Although Sir Peter 1,500 events at the same Games. Although Sir Peter had 1,500 events at the same Games. Although Sir Peter had a 1,500 events at the same Games. 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He sports champion of the 20th century. He was sports champion of the 20th century. He was one sports champion of the 20th century. He was one of sports champion of the 20th century. He was one of the sports champion of the 20th century. He was one of the 24 sports champion of the 20th century. He was one of the 24 inaugural He was one of the 24 inaugural members He was one of the 24 inaugural members of He was one of the 24 inaugural members of the He was one of the 24 inaugural members of the Association He was one of the 24 inaugural members of the Association of members of the Association of athletics members of the Association of athletics Federations members of the Association of athletics Federations Hall members of the Association of athletics Federations Hall of members of the Association of athletics Federations Hall of Fame athletics Federations Hall of Fame named athletics Federations Hall of Fame named in athletics Federations Hall of Fame named in 2012. athletics Federations Hall of Fame named in 2012. After athletics Federations Hall of Fame named in 2012. After his athletics Federations Hall of Fame named in 2012. After his retirement, named in 2012. After his retirement, Peter named in 2012. After his retirement, Peter Snell named in 2012. 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He was renowned in the field of exercise renowned in the field of exercise science renowned in the field of exercise science and renowned in the field of exercise science and was renowned in the field of exercise science and was awarded renowned in the field of exercise science and was awarded and renowned in the field of exercise science and was awarded and honour science and was awarded and honour -- science and was awarded and honour -- honorary science and was awarded and honour -- honorary doctorate. science and was awarded and honour -- honorary doctorate. After science and was awarded and honour -- honorary doctorate. After gaining -- honorary doctorate. After gaining a -- honorary doctorate. After gaining a PhD, -- honorary doctorate. After gaining a PhD, he -- honorary doctorate. After gaining a PhD, he took -- honorary doctorate. After gaining a PhD, he took up -- honorary doctorate. After gaining a PhD, he took up a -- honorary doctorate. After gaining a PhD, he took up a post -- honorary doctorate. After gaining a PhD, he took up a post doctoral a PhD, he took up a post doctoral fellowship a PhD, he took up a post doctoral fellowship and a PhD, he took up a post doctoral fellowship and remained a PhD, he took up a post doctoral fellowship and remained there a PhD, he took up a post doctoral fellowship and remained there as fellowship and remained there as director fellowship and remained there as director of fellowship and remained there as director of the fellowship and remained there as director of the hue fellowship and remained there as director of the hue map fellowship and remained there as director of the hue map performance director of the hue map performance laboratory director of the hue map performance laboratory and director of the hue map performance laboratory and scientific director of the hue map performance laboratory and scientific advisor director of the hue map performance laboratory and scientific advisor to laboratory and scientific advisor to the laboratory and scientific advisor to the US laboratory and scientific advisor to the US Olympic laboratory and scientific advisor to the US Olympic Committee. laboratory and scientific advisor to the US Olympic Committee. New the US Olympic Committee. New Zealand the US Olympic Committee. New Zealand has the US Olympic Committee. New Zealand has honoured the US Olympic Committee. New Zealand has honoured him the US Olympic Committee. New Zealand has honoured him in the US Olympic Committee. New Zealand has honoured him in many Zealand has honoured him in many ways, Zealand has honoured him in many ways, making Zealand has honoured him in many ways, making him Zealand has honoured him in many ways, making him an Zealand has honoured him in many ways, making him an OBE Zealand has honoured him in many ways, making him an OBE in Zealand has honoured him in many ways, making him an OBE in 1962 Zealand has honoured him in many ways, making him an OBE in 1962 and ways, making him an OBE in 1962 and a ways, making him an OBE in 1962 and a companion ways, making him an OBE in 1962 and a companion in ways, making him an OBE in 1962 and a companion in 2009. ways, making him an OBE in 1962 and a companion in 2009. He ways, making him an OBE in 1962 and a companion in 2009. He was ways, making him an OBE in 1962 and a companion in 2009. He was always ways, making him an OBE in 1962 and a companion in 2009. He was always a a companion in 2009. He was always a proud a companion in 2009. He was always a proud New a companion in 2009. He was always a proud New Zealander, a companion in 2009. He was always a proud New Zealander, willing a companion in 2009. He was always a proud New Zealander, willing to a companion in 2009. 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He was a particular to athletes who have followed on from him. He was a true followed on from him. He was a true icon followed on from him. He was a true icon and followed on from him. He was a true icon and an followed on from him. He was a true icon and an inspiration followed on from him. He was a true icon and an inspiration to followed on from him. He was a true icon and an inspiration to at followed on from him. He was a true icon and an inspiration to at least icon and an inspiration to at least two icon and an inspiration to at least two generations icon and an inspiration to at least two generations of icon and an inspiration to at least two generations of athletes icon and an inspiration to at least two generations of athletes and icon and an inspiration to at least two generations of athletes and he two generations of athletes and he leaves two generations of athletes and he leaves behind two generations of athletes and he leaves behind a two generations of athletes and he leaves behind a huge two generations of athletes and he leaves behind a huge legacy. two generations of athletes and he leaves behind a huge legacy. He two generations of athletes and he leaves behind a huge legacy. He will leaves behind a huge legacy. He will be leaves behind a huge legacy. He will be missed leaves behind a huge legacy. He will be missed by leaves behind a huge legacy. 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Can I take a moment on behalf of the New Zealand National Party to of the New Zealand National Party to acknowledge of the New Zealand National Party to acknowledge Sir of the New Zealand National Party to acknowledge Sir Peter of the New Zealand National Party to acknowledge Sir Peter Snell of the New Zealand National Party to acknowledge Sir Peter Snell and of the New Zealand National Party to acknowledge Sir Peter Snell and his acknowledge Sir Peter Snell and his family. acknowledge Sir Peter Snell and his family. The acknowledge Sir Peter Snell and his family. The reality acknowledge Sir Peter Snell and his family. The reality is acknowledge Sir Peter Snell and his family. The reality is he acknowledge Sir Peter Snell and his family. The reality is he was acknowledge Sir Peter Snell and his family. The reality is he was at family. The reality is he was at great family. The reality is he was at great New family. The reality is he was at great New Zealander family. 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He is the only man since 1920 to have won the only man since 1920 to have won the 800mn't only man since 1920 to have won the 800mn't and only man since 1920 to have won the 800mn't and the only man since 1920 to have won the 800mn't and the 1500 only man since 1920 to have won the 800mn't and the 1500 -- only man since 1920 to have won the 800mn't and the 1500 -- 800m only man since 1920 to have won the 800mn't and the 1500 -- 800m and only man since 1920 to have won the 800mn't and the 1500 -- 800m and the 800mn't and the 1500 -- 800m and the 1500m 800mn't and the 1500 -- 800m and the 1500m in 800mn't and the 1500 -- 800m and the 1500m in the 800mn't and the 1500 -- 800m and the 1500m in the same 800mn't and the 1500 -- 800m and the 1500m in the same Olympics. 800mn't and the 1500 -- 800m and the 1500m in the same Olympics. He's 1500m in the same Olympics. He's been 1500m in the same Olympics. He's been honoured 1500m in the same Olympics. 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All apprentices reforming the RMA and many other things. All of apprentices reforming the RMA and many other things. All of these many other things. All of these initiatives many other things. All of these initiatives will many other things. All of these initiatives will help many other things. All of these initiatives will help but many other things. All of these initiatives will help but the initiatives will help but the reality initiatives will help but the reality is initiatives will help but the reality is the initiatives will help but the reality is the housing initiatives will help but the reality is the housing crisis initiatives will help but the reality is the housing crisis we reality is the housing crisis we inherited reality is the housing crisis we inherited was reality is the housing crisis we inherited was severe. reality is the housing crisis we inherited was severe. There reality is the housing crisis we inherited was severe. 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That is why we are committed to continuing to build on committed to continuing to build on the committed to continuing to build on the progress committed to continuing to build on the progress we committed to continuing to build on the progress we have committed to continuing to build on the progress we have made committed to continuing to build on the progress we have made soar committed to continuing to build on the progress we have made soar What the progress we have made soar What is the progress we have made soar What is the the progress we have made soar What is the Government the progress we have made soar What is the Government doing the progress we have made soar What is the Government doing to the progress we have made soar What is the Government doing to address is the Government doing to address homelessnessness? is the Government doing to address homelessnessness? Thank is the Government doing to address homelessnessness? Thank you. is the Government doing to address homelessnessness? Thank you. For is the Government doing to address homelessnessness? Thank you. For the homelessnessness? Thank you. For the second homelessnessness? Thank you. For the second year homelessnessness? Thank you. For the second year in homelessnessness? Thank you. For the second year in a homelessnessness? Thank you. For the second year in a row, homelessnessness? Thank you. For the second year in a row, this second year in a row, this Government second year in a row, this Government has second year in a row, this Government has made second year in a row, this Government has made tackling Government has made tackling homelessness Government has made tackling homelessness a Government has made tackling homelessness a priority. Government has made tackling homelessness a priority. It Government has made tackling homelessness a priority. It is Government has made tackling homelessness a priority. It is not homelessness a priority. It is not good homelessness a priority. It is not good enough homelessness a priority. It is not good enough that homelessness a priority. It is not good enough that families homelessness a priority. It is not good enough that families have homelessness a priority. It is not good enough that families have been good enough that families have been forced good enough that families have been forced to good enough that families have been forced to sleep good enough that families have been forced to sleep in good enough that families have been forced to sleep in cars, good enough that families have been forced to sleep in cars, and good enough that families have been forced to sleep in cars, and kids forced to sleep in cars, and kids have forced to sleep in cars, and kids have to forced to sleep in cars, and kids have to do forced to sleep in cars, and kids have to do their forced to sleep in cars, and kids have to do their homework forced to sleep in cars, and kids have to do their homework by forced to sleep in cars, and kids have to do their homework by torch have to do their homework by torch light. have to do their homework by torch light. That's have to do their homework by torch light. That's why have to do their homework by torch light. That's why Budget have to do their homework by torch light. That's why Budget 2019 light. That's why Budget 2019 invested light. That's why Budget 2019 invested 197 light. That's why Budget 2019 invested 197 million light. That's why Budget 2019 invested 197 million to light. That's why Budget 2019 invested 197 million to roll light. That's why Budget 2019 invested 197 million to roll out invested 197 million to roll out housing invested 197 million to roll out housing first invested 197 million to roll out housing first around invested 197 million to roll out housing first around New invested 197 million to roll out housing first around New Zealand. invested 197 million to roll out housing first around New Zealand. It housing first around New Zealand. It aims housing first around New Zealand. It aims to housing first around New Zealand. It aims to break housing first around New Zealand. It aims to break the housing first around New Zealand. 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What steps and avoid living in cars. What steps has and avoid living in cars. What steps has the and avoid living in cars. What steps has the Government and avoid living in cars. What steps has the Government taking and avoid living in cars. What steps has the Government taking to and avoid living in cars. What steps has the Government taking to help has the Government taking to help more has the Government taking to help more New has the Government taking to help more New Zealanders has the Government taking to help more New Zealanders into has the Government taking to help more New Zealanders into their has the Government taking to help more New Zealanders into their first more New Zealanders into their first home? more New Zealanders into their first home? Home more New Zealanders into their first home? Home ownership more New Zealanders into their first home? Home ownership rates more New Zealanders into their first home? Home ownership rates have more New Zealanders into their first home? Home ownership rates have been home? Home ownership rates have been declining home? Home ownership rates have been declining for home? Home ownership rates have been declining for many home? Home ownership rates have been declining for many years home? Home ownership rates have been declining for many years and home? Home ownership rates have been declining for many years and the declining for many years and the dream declining for many years and the dream of declining for many years and the dream of home declining for many years and the dream of home ownership declining for many years and the dream of home ownership has declining for many years and the dream of home ownership has been dream of home ownership has been slipping dream of home ownership has been slipping away. dream of home ownership has been slipping away. This dream of home ownership has been slipping away. This Government dream of home ownership has been slipping away. This Government wants slipping away. This Government wants to slipping away. This Government wants to see slipping away. This Government wants to see more slipping away. This Government wants to see more New slipping away. This Government wants to see more New Zealanders slipping away. This Government wants to see more New Zealanders in slipping away. This Government wants to see more New Zealanders in their to see more New Zealanders in their own to see more New Zealanders in their to to see more New Zealanders in their own homes, which to see more New Zealanders in their own homes, which I to see more New Zealanders in their own homes, which I is to see more New Zealanders in their own homes, which I is why to see more New Zealanders in their own homes, which I is why we to see more New Zealanders in their own homes, which I is why we have own homes, which I is why we have introduced own homes, which I is why we have introduced policies own homes, which I is why we have introduced policies to own homes, which I is why we have introduced policies to support own homes, which I is why we have introduced policies to support first introduced policies to support first home introduced policies to support first home buyers. introduced policies to support first home buyers. We introduced policies to support first home buyers. We have introduced policies to support first home buyers. We have expanded introduced policies to support first home buyers. We have expanded the home buyers. We have expanded the eligible home buyers. We have expanded the eligible for home buyers. We have expanded the eligible for grants home buyers. We have expanded the eligible for grants and home buyers. We have expanded the eligible for grants and first home buyers. We have expanded the eligible for grants and first home eligible for grants and first home loans eligible for grants and first home loans to eligible for grants and first home loans to - eligible for grants and first home loans to - to eligible for grants and first home loans to - to expand eligible for grants and first home loans to - to expand eligibility. eligible for grants and first home loans to - to expand eligibility. We loans to - to expand eligibility. We have loans to - to expand eligibility. We have set loans to - to expand eligibility. We have set aside loans to - to expand eligibility. We have set aside $400 loans to - to expand eligibility. We have set aside $400 million loans to - to expand eligibility. We have set aside $400 million for loans to - to expand eligibility. We have set aside $400 million for a have set aside $400 million for a progressive have set aside $400 million for a progressive home have set aside $400 million for a progressive home ownership have set aside $400 million for a progressive home ownership scheme have set aside $400 million for a progressive home ownership scheme to progressive home ownership scheme to help progressive home ownership scheme to help more progressive home ownership scheme to help more people progressive home ownership scheme to help more people into progressive home ownership scheme to help more people into their progressive home ownership scheme to help more people into their first help more people into their first home. help more people into their first home. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for the My question is to the Minister for the Environment: My question is to the Minister for the Environment: Does My question is to the Minister for the Environment: Does the My question is to the Minister for the Environment: Does the Government the Environment: Does the Government support the Environment: Does the Government support the the Environment: Does the Government support the replacement the Environment: Does the Government support the replacement and the Environment: Does the Government support the replacement and reform support the replacement and reform of support the replacement and reform of the support the replacement and reform of the Resource support the replacement and reform of the Resource Management support the replacement and reform of the Resource Management Act support the replacement and reform of the Resource Management Act 1991? Yes, Yes, because Yes, because it Yes, because it take Yes, because it take us Yes, because it take us too Yes, because it take us too long, Yes, because it take us too long, costs Yes, because it take us too long, costs too Yes, because it take us too long, costs too much Yes, because it take us too long, costs too much and Yes, because it take us too long, costs too much and hasn't Yes, because it take us too long, costs too much and hasn't protected costs too much and hasn't protected the costs too much and hasn't protected the environment. costs too much and hasn't protected the environment. That costs too much and hasn't protected the environment. That is costs too much and hasn't protected the environment. That is why costs too much and hasn't protected the environment. That is why this the environment. That is why this government the environment. That is why this government funded the environment. That is why this government funded the the environment. That is why this government funded the replacement government funded the replacement and government funded the replacement and has government funded the replacement and has started government funded the replacement and has started this government funded the replacement and has started this important government funded the replacement and has started this important work. and has started this important work. Over and has started this important work. Over the and has started this important work. Over the nine and has started this important work. Over the nine years and has started this important work. Over the nine years of and has started this important work. Over the nine years of the and has started this important work. 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Does he mean then before the election? Does he mean then that before the election? Does he mean then that he before the election? Does he mean then that he will before the election? Does he mean then that he will not before the election? Does he mean then that he will not commit before the election? Does he mean then that he will not commit to then that he will not commit to introducing then that he will not commit to introducing any then that he will not commit to introducing any legislation introducing any legislation recommended introducing any legislation recommended by introducing any legislation recommended by the introducing any legislation recommended by the working introducing any legislation recommended by the working group recommended by the working group during recommended by the working group during this recommended by the working group during this term recommended by the working group during this term of recommended by the working group during this term of Government recommended by the working group during this term of Government - recommended by the working group during this term of Government - of during this term of Government - of Parliament? during this term of Government - of Parliament? No, during this term of Government - of Parliament? 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Is he concerned the smoke-free 2025 target concerned the smoke-free 2025 target will concerned the smoke-free 2025 target will not concerned the smoke-free 2025 target will not be concerned the smoke-free 2025 target will not be achieved concerned the smoke-free 2025 target will not be achieved when concerned the smoke-free 2025 target will not be achieved when 18 concerned the smoke-free 2025 target will not be achieved when 18 of concerned the smoke-free 2025 target will not be achieved when 18 of the will not be achieved when 18 of the 20 will not be achieved when 18 of the 20 DHBs' will not be achieved when 18 of the 20 DHBs' performance will not be achieved when 18 of the 20 DHBs' performance on will not be achieved when 18 of the 20 DHBs' performance on better 20 DHBs' performance on better health 20 DHBs' performance on better health for 20 DHBs' performance on better health for smokers 20 DHBs' performance on better health for smokers has 20 DHBs' performance on better health for smokers has gone health for smokers has gone backwards health for smokers has gone backwards since health for smokers has gone backwards since he health for smokers has gone backwards since he became health for smokers has gone backwards since he became minister? backwards since he became minister? 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The particular quit smoking the previous government. The particular quit smoking target the previous government. The particular quit smoking target the particular quit smoking target the member particular quit smoking target the member refers particular quit smoking target the member refers to particular quit smoking target the member refers to is particular quit smoking target the member refers to is based particular quit smoking target the member refers to is based upon member refers to is based upon referrals. member refers to is based upon referrals. If member refers to is based upon referrals. If the member refers to is based upon referrals. If the member member refers to is based upon referrals. If the member were member refers to is based upon referrals. If the member were to referrals. If the member were to refer referrals. If the member were to refer a referrals. If the member were to refer a person referrals. If the member were to refer a person to referrals. If the member were to refer a person to me referrals. If the member were to refer a person to me as referrals. If the member were to refer a person to me as a referrals. If the member were to refer a person to me as a clinician, refer a person to me as a clinician, and refer a person to me as a clinician, and I refer a person to me as a clinician, and I were refer a person to me as a clinician, and I were to refer a person to me as a clinician, and I were to refer refer a person to me as a clinician, and I were to refer back refer a person to me as a clinician, and I were to refer back to refer a person to me as a clinician, and I were to refer back to him refer a person to me as a clinician, and I were to refer back to him as refer a person to me as a clinician, and I were to refer back to him as a and I were to refer back to him as a fellow and I were to refer back to him as a fellow clinician, and I were to refer back to him as a fellow clinician, that and I were to refer back to him as a fellow clinician, that would and I were to refer back to him as a fellow clinician, that would count fellow clinician, that would count as fellow clinician, that would count as two fellow clinician, that would count as two for fellow clinician, that would count as two for those fellow clinician, that would count as two for those elective fellow clinician, that would count as two for those elective - fellow clinician, that would count as two for those elective - for fellow clinician, that would count as two for those elective - for that as two for those elective - for that set as two for those elective - for that set of as two for those elective - for that set of targets. as two for those elective - for that set of targets. I as two for those elective - for that set of targets. I don't as two for those elective - for that set of targets. I don't think as two for those elective - for that set of targets. I don't think that's set of targets. I don't think that's a set of targets. I don't think that's a particularly set of targets. I don't think that's a particularly useful set of targets. I don't think that's a particularly useful measure. set of targets. I don't think that's a particularly useful measure. I a particularly useful measure. I think a particularly useful measure. I think there a particularly useful measure. I think there are a particularly useful measure. I think there are broader a particularly useful measure. I think there are broader measures a particularly useful measure. 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Why then if they are such an inappropriate proxy for the such an inappropriate proxy for the health such an inappropriate proxy for the health of such an inappropriate proxy for the health of the such an inappropriate proxy for the health of the health such an inappropriate proxy for the health of the health system such an inappropriate proxy for the health of the health system has health of the health system has after health of the health system has after two health of the health system has after two years health of the health system has after two years he health of the health system has after two years he not health of the health system has after two years he not done health of the health system has after two years he not done anything after two years he not done anything about after two years he not done anything about it? after two years he not done anything about it? I after two years he not done anything about it? I reject after two years he not done anything about it? 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Why have all 20 DHBs' performance under the shortest stays performance under the shortest stays in performance under the shortest stays in emergency performance under the shortest stays in emergency departments performance under the shortest stays in emergency departments performance in emergency departments performance all in emergency departments performance all dropped in emergency departments performance all dropped since in emergency departments performance all dropped since he in emergency departments performance all dropped since he became all dropped since he became minister? all dropped since he became minister? Mr all dropped since he became minister? Mr Speaker, all dropped since he became minister? Mr Speaker, the all dropped since he became minister? Mr Speaker, the member minister? Mr Speaker, the member will minister? Mr Speaker, the member will know minister? Mr Speaker, the member will know from minister? Mr Speaker, the member will know from my minister? 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That date we have begun the upgrade or new build of at least the upgrade or new build of at least 1,100 the upgrade or new build of at least 1,100 classrooms, the upgrade or new build of at least 1,100 classrooms, benefiting the upgrade or new build of at least 1,100 classrooms, benefiting around 1,100 classrooms, benefiting around 33,000 1,100 classrooms, benefiting around 33,000 students. 1,100 classrooms, benefiting around 33,000 students. We 1,100 classrooms, benefiting around 33,000 students. We have 1,100 classrooms, benefiting around 33,000 students. We have released 33,000 students. We have released the 33,000 students. We have released the first 33,000 students. We have released the first ever 33,000 students. We have released the first ever national 33,000 students. 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Any pleb of parliament would suggest they go to parliament would suggest they go to Kainga parliament would suggest they go to Kainga Ora parliament would suggest they go to Kainga Ora to parliament would suggest they go to Kainga Ora to lay parliament would suggest they go to Kainga Ora to lay a parliament would suggest they go to Kainga Ora to lay a complaint parliament would suggest they go to Kainga Ora to lay a complaint there Kainga Ora to lay a complaint there are Kainga Ora to lay a complaint there are 86,300 Kainga Ora to lay a complaint there are 86,300 reports Kainga Ora to lay a complaint there are 86,300 reports of Kainga Ora to lay a complaint there are 86,300 reports of complaints are 86,300 reports of complaints being are 86,300 reports of complaints being made are 86,300 reports of complaints being made and are 86,300 reports of complaints being made and most are 86,300 reports of complaints being made and most of are 86,300 reports of complaints being made and most of them are 86,300 reports of complaints being made and most of them being being made and most of them being dealt being made and most of them being dealt with being made and most of them being dealt with easily being made and most of them being dealt with easily by being made and most of them being dealt with easily by Kainga being made and most of them being dealt with easily by Kainga Ora. dealt with easily by Kainga Ora. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Thanks <INTERRUPTION> Thanks for <INTERRUPTION> Thanks for your <INTERRUPTION> Thanks for your contribution. <INTERRUPTION> Thanks for your contribution. Order! Thanks for your contribution. Order! Order! Thanks for your contribution. Order! Order! The Thanks for your contribution. Order! Order! The member Thanks for your contribution. Order! Order! The member knows Thanks for your contribution. Order! Order! The member knows that Thanks for your contribution. Order! Order! The member knows that is Thanks for your contribution. Order! Order! The member knows that is out Order! The member knows that is out of Order! The member knows that is out of order, Order! The member knows that is out of order, doesn't Order! The member knows that is out of order, doesn't he? Order! The member knows that is out of order, doesn't he? I Order! The member knows that is out of order, doesn't he? I just Order! The member knows that is out of order, doesn't he? I just want Order! The member knows that is out of order, doesn't he? I just want to of order, doesn't he? I just want to check of order, doesn't he? 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The member will apologise to the House? Myself? will apologise to the House? Myself? He will apologise to the House? Myself? He will. will apologise to the House? Myself? He will. I will apologise to the House? Myself? He will. I withdraw will apologise to the House? Myself? He will. I withdraw and will apologise to the House? Myself? He will. I withdraw and apologise. He will. I withdraw and apologise. Does He will. I withdraw and apologise. Does he He will. I withdraw and apologise. Does he believe He will. I withdraw and apologise. Does he believe that He will. I withdraw and apologise. Does he believe that the He will. I withdraw and apologise. Does he believe that the 99% He will. I withdraw and apologise. Does he believe that the 99% of Does he believe that the 99% of people Does he believe that the 99% of people who Does he believe that the 99% of people who made Does he believe that the 99% of people who made complaints Does he believe that the 99% of people who made complaints and Does he believe that the 99% of people who made complaints and that people who made complaints and that resulted people who made complaints and that resulted in people who made complaints and that resulted in no people who made complaints and that resulted in no action people who made complaints and that resulted in no action being people who made complaints and that resulted in no action being taken resulted in no action being taken can resulted in no action being taken can have resulted in no action being taken can have any resulted in no action being taken can have any confidence resulted in no action being taken can have any confidence in resulted in no action being taken can have any confidence in a can have any confidence in a reporting can have any confidence in a reporting system can have any confidence in a reporting system and can have any confidence in a reporting system and if can have any confidence in a reporting system and if so, can have any confidence in a reporting system and if so, how? can have any confidence in a reporting system and if so, how? 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Yes because that's the way the system because that's the way the system works because that's the way the system works and because that's the way the system works and there because that's the way the system works and there are because that's the way the system works and there are a because that's the way the system works and there are a range because that's the way the system works and there are a range of works and there are a range of options works and there are a range of options that works and there are a range of options that Kainga works and there are a range of options that Kainga Ora works and there are a range of options that Kainga Ora can works and there are a range of options that Kainga Ora can make works and there are a range of options that Kainga Ora can make to options that Kainga Ora can make to remediate options that Kainga Ora can make to remediate complaints. options that Kainga Ora can make to remediate complaints. As options that Kainga Ora can make to remediate complaints. As I options that Kainga Ora can make to remediate complaints. As I say, options that Kainga Ora can make to remediate complaints. As I say, some remediate complaints. As I say, some of remediate complaints. As I say, some of those remediate complaints. As I say, some of those multiple remediate complaints. As I say, some of those multiple issues remediate complaints. As I say, some of those multiple issues with remediate complaints. 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I'm vulnerable over the Christmas period. I'm quite vulnerable over the Christmas period. I'm quite proud vulnerable over the Christmas period. I'm quite proud to vulnerable over the Christmas period. I'm quite proud to sit vulnerable over the Christmas period. I'm quite proud to sit on period. I'm quite proud to sit on this period. I'm quite proud to sit on this side period. I'm quite proud to sit on this side of period. I'm quite proud to sit on this side of the period. I'm quite proud to sit on this side of the House period. I'm quite proud to sit on this side of the House and period. I'm quite proud to sit on this side of the House and say period. I'm quite proud to sit on this side of the House and say that this side of the House and say that we this side of the House and say that we will this side of the House and say that we will continue this side of the House and say that we will continue to this side of the House and say that we will continue to support this side of the House and say that we will continue to support them this side of the House and say that we will continue to support them but we will continue to support them but the we will continue to support them but the message we will continue to support them but the message - we will continue to support them but the message - the we will continue to support them but the message - the Christmas we will continue to support them but the message - the Christmas message the message - the Christmas message they the message - the Christmas message they seem the message - the Christmas message they seem to the message - the Christmas message they seem to be the message - the Christmas message they seem to be getting the message - the Christmas message they seem to be getting from the message - the Christmas message they seem to be getting from the they seem to be getting from the Opposition they seem to be getting from the Opposition is they seem to be getting from the Opposition is next they seem to be getting from the Opposition is next year they seem to be getting from the Opposition is next year they they seem to be getting from the Opposition is next year they are Opposition is next year they are coming Opposition is next year they are coming after Opposition is next year they are coming after them. Opposition is next year they are coming after them. Does Opposition is next year they are coming after them. Does the Opposition is next year they are coming after them. Does the minister coming after them. Does the minister support coming after them. Does the minister support Nationals coming after them. Does the minister support Nationals view coming after them. Does the minister support Nationals view that coming after them. Does the minister support Nationals view that there support Nationals view that there should support Nationals view that there should be support Nationals view that there should be consequences support Nationals view that there should be consequences for support Nationals view that there should be consequences for serious should be consequences for serious antisocial should be consequences for serious antisocial behaviour should be consequences for serious antisocial behaviour or should be consequences for serious antisocial behaviour or is should be consequences for serious antisocial behaviour or is he should be consequences for serious antisocial behaviour or is he open antisocial behaviour or is he open to antisocial behaviour or is he open to moving antisocial behaviour or is he open to moving private antisocial behaviour or is he open to moving private land antisocial behaviour or is he open to moving private land owners to moving private land owners troublesome to moving private land owners troublesome tenants? to moving private land owners troublesome tenants? 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My thought to that is remind, remedy and remove. My thought to that is I remind, remedy and remove. My thought to that is I am remind, remedy and remove. My thought to that is I am wonder remind, remedy and remove. My thought to that is I am wonder you thought to that is I am wonder you are thought to that is I am wonder you are use thought to that is I am wonder you are use -- thought to that is I am wonder you are use -- wondering thought to that is I am wonder you are use -- wondering if thought to that is I am wonder you are use -- wondering if you thought to that is I am wonder you are use -- wondering if you are are use -- wondering if you are using are use -- wondering if you are using it are use -- wondering if you are using it for are use -- wondering if you are using it for your are use -- wondering if you are using it for your leader are use -- wondering if you are using it for your leader as are use -- wondering if you are using it for your leader as well! using it for your leader as well! <LAUGHTER> <LAUGHTER> When <LAUGHTER> When the <LAUGHTER> When the minister <LAUGHTER> When the minister said <LAUGHTER> When the minister said last <LAUGHTER> When the minister said last week When the minister said last week neighbours When the minister said last week neighbours should When the minister said last week neighbours should complain When the minister said last week neighbours should complain to neighbours should complain to Housing neighbours should complain to Housing New neighbours should complain to Housing New Zealand neighbours should complain to Housing New Zealand does neighbours should complain to Housing New Zealand does he neighbours should complain to Housing New Zealand does he think neighbours should complain to Housing New Zealand does he think he Housing New Zealand does he think he has Housing New Zealand does he think he has a Housing New Zealand does he think he has a 50/50 Housing New Zealand does he think he has a 50/50 chance Housing New Zealand does he think he has a 50/50 chance of Housing New Zealand does he think he has a 50/50 chance of being Housing New Zealand does he think he has a 50/50 chance of being heard Housing New Zealand does he think he has a 50/50 chance of being heard or has a 50/50 chance of being heard or more has a 50/50 chance of being heard or more like has a 50/50 chance of being heard or more like less has a 50/50 chance of being heard or more like less than has a 50/50 chance of being heard or more like less than 1%. has a 50/50 chance of being heard or more like less than 1%. I has a 50/50 chance of being heard or more like less than 1%. I am more like less than 1%. I am confident more like less than 1%. I am confident that more like less than 1%. I am confident that front-line more like less than 1%. 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I don't basis are dealing with them in a correct way. I don't think basis are dealing with them in a correct way. I don't think that basis are dealing with them in a correct way. I don't think that a correct way. I don't think that a barking correct way. I don't think that a barking dog, correct way. I don't think that a barking dog, while correct way. I don't think that a barking dog, while annoying correct way. I don't think that a barking dog, while annoying warrants barking dog, while annoying warrants eviction barking dog, while annoying warrants eviction but barking dog, while annoying warrants eviction but if barking dog, while annoying warrants eviction but if that barking dog, while annoying warrants eviction but if that is barking dog, while annoying warrants eviction but if that is the barking dog, while annoying warrants eviction but if that is the thresh eviction but if that is the thresh for eviction but if that is the thresh for the eviction but if that is the thresh for the National eviction but if that is the thresh for the National Party eviction but if that is the thresh for the National Party then eviction but if that is the thresh for the National Party then we eviction but if that is the thresh for the National Party then we have for the National Party then we have two for the National Party then we have two different for the National Party then we have two different approaches. for the National Party then we have two different approaches. We for the National Party then we have two different approaches. We will two different approaches. We will continue two different approaches. We will continue to two different approaches. We will continue to help two different approaches. We will continue to help and two different approaches. We will continue to help and you two different approaches. We will continue to help and you will continue to help and you will continue continue to help and you will continue to continue to help and you will continue to vilify. continue to help and you will continue to vilify. Question continue to help and you will continue to vilify. Question No.12. continue continue to continue to help continue to help and continue to help and you continue to help and you will continue to help and you will continue continue to help and you will continue to continue to help and you will continue to vilify. continue to help and you will continue to vilify. Question continue to help and you will continue to vilify. Question No.12. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Education: My question is to the Minister of Education: Does My question is to the Minister of Education: Does he My question is to the Minister of Education: Does he stand My question is to the Minister of Education: Does he stand by My question is to the Minister of Education: Does he stand by all My question is to the Minister of Education: Does he stand by all his Education: Does he stand by all his statements Education: Does he stand by all his statements and Education: Does he stand by all his statements and actions Education: Does he stand by all his statements and actions in Education: Does he stand by all his statements and actions in relation statements and actions in relation to statements and actions in relation to the statements and actions in relation to the Fees statements and actions in relation to the Fees Free statements and actions in relation to the Fees Free policy? I I stand I stand by I stand by the I stand by the policy I stand by the policy that I stand by the policy that last I stand by the policy that last year I stand by the policy that last year meant I stand by the policy that last year meant that I stand by the policy that last year meant that 47,000 I stand by the policy that last year meant that 47,000 students I stand by the policy that last year meant that 47,000 students and I stand by the policy that last year meant that 47,000 students and their meant that 47,000 students and their families meant that 47,000 students and their families avoided meant that 47,000 students and their families avoided fees meant that 47,000 students and their families avoided fees of meant that 47,000 students and their families avoided fees of around families avoided fees of around $5,800 families avoided fees of around $5,800 on families avoided fees of around $5,800 on average. families avoided fees of around $5,800 on average. When families avoided fees of around $5,800 on average. When he families avoided fees of around $5,800 on average. When he said $5,800 on average. When he said recently $5,800 on average. When he said recently that $5,800 on average. When he said recently that he $5,800 on average. When he said recently that he is $5,800 on average. When he said recently that he is largely $5,800 on average. When he said recently that he is largely happy recently that he is largely happy with recently that he is largely happy with fees-free recently that he is largely happy with fees-free does recently that he is largely happy with fees-free does that recently that he is largely happy with fees-free does that include with fees-free does that include reports with fees-free does that include reports that with fees-free does that include reports that Fees with fees-free does that include reports that Fees Free with fees-free does that include reports that Fees Free have reports that Fees Free have universally reports that Fees Free have universally boosted reports that Fees Free have universally boosted university universally boosted university education universally boosted university education for universally boosted university education for upper universally boosted university education for upper decile universally boosted university education for upper decile students education for upper decile students and education for upper decile students and has education for upper decile students and has been education for upper decile students and has been referred education for upper decile students and has been referred to education for upper decile students and has been referred to as education for upper decile students and has been referred to as middle and has been referred to as middle class and has been referred to as middle class welfare? and has been referred to as middle class welfare? I and has been referred to as middle class welfare? I reject and has been referred to as middle class welfare? I reject the and has been referred to as middle class welfare? I reject the premise class welfare? I reject the premise of class welfare? I reject the premise of the class welfare? I reject the premise of the question. class welfare? I reject the premise of the question. If class welfare? I reject the premise of the question. If you class welfare? I reject the premise of the question. If you look class welfare? I reject the premise of the question. If you look at class welfare? I reject the premise of the question. If you look at the of the question. If you look at the data of the question. If you look at the data it of the question. If you look at the data it will of the question. If you look at the data it will shoe of the question. If you look at the data it will shoe that of the question. If you look at the data it will shoe that for of the question. If you look at the data it will shoe that for decile data it will shoe that for decile students data it will shoe that for decile students from data it will shoe that for decile students from December data it will shoe that for decile students from December jail data it will shoe that for decile students from December jail 1-3 students from December jail 1-3 schools students from December jail 1-3 schools there students from December jail 1-3 schools there has students from December jail 1-3 schools there has been students from December jail 1-3 schools there has been an students from December jail 1-3 schools there has been an increase schools there has been an increase in schools there has been an increase in the schools there has been an increase in the number schools there has been an increase in the number going schools there has been an increase in the number going to schools there has been an increase in the number going to university. in the number going to university. We in the number going to university. We have in the number going to university. We have seen in the number going to university. We have seen declining in the number going to university. We have seen declining participation We have seen declining participation in We have seen declining participation in other We have seen declining participation in other areas We have seen declining participation in other areas of We have seen declining participation in other areas of tertiary in other areas of tertiary education, in other areas of tertiary education, most in other areas of tertiary education, most notably in other areas of tertiary education, most notably in in other areas of tertiary education, most notably in our education, most notably in our polytens education, most notably in our polytens and education, most notably in our polytens and institutes education, most notably in our polytens and institutes of polytens and institutes of technology, polytens and institutes of technology, that polytens and institutes of technology, that is polytens and institutes of technology, that is something polytens and institutes of technology, that is something this technology, that is something this Government technology, that is something this Government doesn't technology, that is something this Government doesn't think technology, that is something this Government doesn't think is Government doesn't think is sustainable Government doesn't think is sustainable and Government doesn't think is sustainable and that Government doesn't think is sustainable and that is Government doesn't think is sustainable and that is one Government doesn't think is sustainable and that is one of Government doesn't think is sustainable and that is one of the sustainable and that is one of the reasons sustainable and that is one of the reasons we sustainable and that is one of the reasons we are sustainable and that is one of the reasons we are undertaking sustainable and that is one of the reasons we are undertaking a sustainable and that is one of the reasons we are undertaking a very reasons we are undertaking a very comprehensive reasons we are undertaking a very comprehensive reform reasons we are undertaking a very comprehensive reform of reasons we are undertaking a very comprehensive reform of the reasons we are undertaking a very comprehensive reform of the whole comprehensive reform of the whole sector. comprehensive reform of the whole sector. 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Does he understand then that low decile families are not as happy low decile families are not as happy with low decile families are not as happy with the low decile families are not as happy with the fees low decile families are not as happy with the fees free low decile families are not as happy with the fees free as low decile families are not as happy with the fees free as he low decile families are not as happy with the fees free as he is low decile families are not as happy with the fees free as he is given with the fees free as he is given recent with the fees free as he is given recent reports with the fees free as he is given recent reports that with the fees free as he is given recent reports that the with the fees free as he is given recent reports that the Fees with the fees free as he is given recent reports that the Fees Free recent reports that the Fees Free environment recent reports that the Fees Free environment has recent reports that the Fees Free environment has reduced environment has reduced participation environment has reduced participation for environment has reduced participation for low environment has reduced participation for low decile participation for low decile students. participation for low decile students. 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