THINGS STARTING TO FEEL LIKE AUTUMN TIME NOW FOR SEVEN SHARP, AND SIR RICHARD HADLEE'S ON THE SHOW. THANKS DAN. YES, THERE'S A BIG AWARDS NIGHT TONIGHT SO WE'RE GOING TO ASK HIM WHETHER THE CURRENT BLACK CAPS ARE THE BEST CRICKET TEAM WE'VE EVER HAD. BUT FIRST, WE'RE TALKING JURY SERVICE. SITTING ON A JURY AND DECIDING WHETHER A PERSON IS GUILTY OR NOT IS A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY. IF YOU'RE ON THE ELECTORAL ROLL, YOU CAN BE ASKED TO SERVE ON A JURY ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS. BUT IT TURNS OUT LOTS OF US FIND EXCUSES TO GET OUT OF IT, OR WORSE STILL, DON'T TURN UP AT ALL. IT'S PART OF OUR CIVIC DUTY ` TAKING ONE FOR THE NATIONAL TEAM AND TURNING UP FOR JURY SERVICE. BUT STATISTICS SHOW NOT MANY KIWIS ARE TURNING UP AT ALL. LET'S LOOK AT PALMERSTON NORTH, FOR EXAMPLE. SORRY, PALMY. FEWER THAN ONE IN FIVE PEOPLE WHO WERE CALLED FOR JURY DUTY ACTUALLY SHOWED UP. AND BEFORE THE REST OF US JUDGE, THE NATIONWIDE EVIDENCE IS NO BETTER. ONLY 17% MADE IT TO COURT WHEN GETTING THE CALL-UP. A FIFTH OF US PULLED A NO-SHOW AND DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE ABSENT NOTE FROM MUM. SO WHAT'S IN IT FOR THE JURORS WHEN THEY'RE SELECTED, YOU ASK? THE MAXIMUM PAYMENT IS $80 A DAY, AND THAT HAS TO COVER ALL OF YOUR EXPENSES. IT'S A BIG DEAL TO TAKE DAYS OFF WORK, AND I JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT. IT WOULD BE A REAL STRUGGLE, TO BE HONEST. IT'D BE PRETTY BAD IF YOU GOT A SEVEN-WEEK TRIAL OR SOMETHING. IT'S KIND OF YOUR DUTY, SO, TAKE THE HIT. AND CRIMINAL DEFENCE LAWYER MARIE DYHRBERG'S WITH US. LOVELY TO TALK TO YOU, MARIE. TELL ME, WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE DO THEIR CIVIC DUTY AND ACTUALLY TURN UP FOR JURY SERVICE? I THINK THE JURY SERVICE IS ONE OF THE FEW TRULY DEMOCRATIC SITUATIONS THAT THE CITIZENS CAN GET THEMSELVES INVOLVED IN, THAT IS NOT GOVERNMENT. THEY ARE THE GOVERNED, AND THEY CAN BE TRULY INDEPENDENT, TRULY WIDE-RANGING, AND JUST GET INVOLVED IN SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF OUR SOCIETY ` LAW AND ORDER. SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T GET A WIDE CROSS-SECTION OF PEOPLE ON A JURY? UNFORTUNATELY, YOU DON'T GET THAT SAME ROBUST DEBATE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO THINK HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE, WHETHER IT'S CULTURE, RACE, SEXUALITY, GENDER. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO BRING TO THE JURY POOL, AND GET DEBATING ON SAYING, 'WELL, I THINK THAT THAT'S A REASONABLE SITUATION,' OR, 'I CONSIDER THAT'S QUITE A PLAUSIBLE EXPLANATION,' OR, 'I REJECT WHAT THE DEFENDANT OR THE COMPLAINANT HAS SAID 'BASED ON LIFE'S EXPERIENCE.' AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE A WIDE POOL, I THINK YOU JUST NARROW THE RANGE OF DEBATE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THAT JURY ROOM. MARIE, TELL ME, WHY DO YOU THINK PEOPLE AREN'T DOING IT? IT COMES DOWN TO MONEY BECAUSE IT'S NOT THAT PEOPLE ARE MONEY-HUNGRY ` DON'T GET ME WRONG. BUT THE PAY THAT THEY GET IS VERY LOW. OUT OF THAT HAS TO COME CHILD CARE, OR YOU PARK YOUR CAR AND YOU GET STUNG FOR $38, $48. SO, THEREFORE IT BECOMES A FINANCIAL BURDEN. WHAT'S YOUR ADVICE FOR PEOPLE WHO RECEIVE A LETTER ASKING THEM TO DO JURY SERVICE? I WOULD SAY, LOOK, GET WELL AHEAD, PLAN AHEAD, TELL YOUR BOSS, TELL YOUR EMPLOYER THAT THIS IS COMING UP. MAKE ARRANGEMENTS WITH FAMILY OR WITH YOUR EMPLOYER, SO THAT YOU CAN SAY 'I CAN AFFORD TO TAKE THIS TIME OFF.' WHAT ABOUT CHARGING PEOPLE? GETTING THE POLICE INVOLVED AND CHARGING PEOPLE WHO DON'T TURN UP? I DO NOT THINK COMING DOWN HEAVY ON THEM, BRINGING IN THE LAW, IS GOING TO MAKE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE. I THINK WHAT WILL MAKE THEM RESPONSIBLE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU MAKE THE CIRCUMSTANCES EASY FOR THEM TO APPEAR AND THEY ARE LIKELY TO APPEAR. LOVELY TO TALK TO YOU, MARIE. ALL THE BEST. THANKS, HILARY. THANKS, JEREMY. CAPTIONS BY KRISTIN WILLIAMS, PHOEBE UPTON AND STEFFI DRYDEN. CAPTIONS WERE MADE WITH THE SUPPORT OF NZ ON AIR. WWW.ABLE.CO.NZ COPYRIGHT ABLE 2021 IT IS ILLEGAL NOT TO TURN UP, BUT ONLY A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS HAVE BEEN CHARGED. IF YOU HAVE EVER HAD THAT LETTER, IT SOUNDS SCARY. I AM SURPRISED SO MANY PEOPLE DON'T TURN UP. HAVE YOU BEEN ON A JURY? IT WAS ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO. THERE WERE A LOT OF BREAKS AND A LOT OF BISCUITS. WE HAD SUPER WINES ON THE FIRST DAY. ROUND WINES ON THE SECOND DAY. ON THE LAST DAY I THINK WE HAD GINGER NUTS. THAT IS A DANGEROUS ONE TO PULL OUT ON A JURY. IT WAS IN A CLOSED SPACE. I WAS THINKING MORE OF THEIR TEETH. KNOW IT WENT THROUGH PEOPLE. 20 YEARS AGO? YES. HAVE YOU BEEN ON A JURY? I WAS SUMMONED BUT ENTRENCHED IN THE NEWSROOM. AND THERE ARE THINGS YOU HEAR IN THE NEWSROOM THAT MAKE YOU LIABLE TO BE ON A JURY. YOU ARE A PARTY TO A LOT OF THINGS THAT MAKE YOU INELIGIBLE. I THINK NOW THAT I AM IN THE LIGHT ENTERTAINMENT ON SEVEN SHARP. IF I GET CALLED AGAIN, I MIGHT BE GOOD TO GO. I KNOW NOTHING. YOU WOULD BE AN AMAZING FOREPERSON. YOU WOULD DRIVE THE DEBATE. IT WOULD BE ROBUST, YOU WOULD MAKE SURE EVERYONE WAS INVOLVED. I WOULD IMPROVE THE BISCUITS. I MIGHT BAKE. YOU CAN'T DO THAT. YOU MIGHT PUT SOMETHING AND IT. SAVE THE TAXPAYER SOME MONEY. I WOULDN'T DO THAT. IF YOU WANDER DOWN TO YOUR LOCAL HARDWARE STORE AT THE MOMENT, YOU MIGHT FIND TIMBER IN SHORT SUPPLY. WHILE A PINE DROUGHT HAS BEEN MAKING HEADLINES, A LACK OF SPECIALTY IMPORTED TIMBERS HAS BEEN CAUSING HEADACHES FOR BUILDERS FOR MONTHS. SO LUCAS DE JONG ASKED WHY WE RELY SO MUCH ON IMPORTING THE GOOD STUFF, AND DON'T JUST DO IT OURSELVES. IT'S THE DAILY GRIND... AND SAW, AND CHOP THAT HAS THE TEAM AT MAC DIRECT IN OVERDRIVE. WE USED TO SAY WE'D ALWAYS SUPPLY IN 10 DAYS. AT THE MOMENT, WE'RE PROBABLY TWO MONTHS. WE CAN'T KEEP UP WITH DEMAND, REALLY. MURRAY'S BEEN MILLING MACRACARPA FOR 30 YEARS. SO, APART FROM THIS BEAUTIFUL SMELL THAT I'M GETTING RIGHT NOW OF MACROCARPA, WHY IS THIS BETTER THAN PINE? PEOPLE THAT WANT AN ACTUAL PRODUCT THAT ISN'T BROUGHT IN FROM OVERSEAS, THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE TREATED IN ANY WAY. YOU CAN USE IT FOR WEATHERBOARD, CLADDING, AND FOR STRUCTURALLY, INTERNALLY. TIMBER SHORTAGES HAVE BEEN THE LATEST HURDLE IN OUR STUMBLING BUILDING INDUSTRY. FOR MONTHS NOW, IMPORTED SPECIALTY TIMBERS HAVE HAD TROUBLE GETTING INTO NEW ZEALAND. TIMBERS THAT WE COULD GROW MORE OF HERE. THE CLEVERNESS OF MAN HAS OVERCOME THEM A BIT, AND SO THEY HAVE DROPPED ASIDE A LOT OF THE NATURAL TIMBERS IN NEW ZEALAND. ...DROPPED FOR OUR COUNTRY'S CASH CROP, PINUS RADIATA. A SINGLE VARIETY OF TREE THAT MAKES UP 90% OF OUR TIMBER PLANTATIONS. PINE HAVE DICTATED THE SCENE FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S A BIT OF A MONOCULTURE MENTALITY WE'VE HAD IN NEW ZEALAND, UNFORTUNATELY. BUT LONG AGO, SOME DIVERSIFIED. SO, NOT PINE? NO, NOT PINE! CYPRUS. AND HOW OLD WOULD THESE BE? THESE ARE COMING UP TO 40 YEARS OLD. FOUR DECADES AGO, GABRIELLE CONVINCED HER FATHER TO INVEST IN THE 'LESSER-KNOWN'. WE HAD BEEN PLANTING PINE ON THE PROPERTY FOR TWO ROTATIONS, BUT WE WERE CONCERNED THAT WE HAD ALL OUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET AND THAT WE SHOULD DIVERSIFY. IF WE GOT A DISEASE IN THE PINE, WHAT WERE WE GOING TO DO? NOW, HER FAMILY FARM IN PAPAMOA IS A MIXED PLANTATION OF SPECIES YOU WON'T FIND AT THE HARDWARE STORE. SO, YOU'VE GOT EUCALYPTUS. THE VERY TALL TREE THROUGH THE MIDDLE THERE. THAT'S VICTORIAN ASH. YOU'VE GOT THE ACACIA MELANOXYLON, TASMANIAN BLACKWOOD. AND THEN BEHIND YOU, YOU'VE GOT POPLAR. MORE RECENTLY, WE ARE GETTING INTO NEW ZEALAND NATIVE TIMBERS. IT'S VERY EARLY DAYS ` THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE A WHILE TO GROW, BUT WE GROW KAURI REALLY WELL HERE. WE ALSO HAVE RIMU AND TOTARA. THIS IS TASMANIAN BLACKWOOD. THIS IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL TIMBER ` REALLY RICH AND DARK. THIS IS THE HIGHEST END OF YOUR COLLECTION, WOULD IT BE FAIR TO SAY? YES, IT IS. DEFINITELY. IT'S STILL` OH, THE KAURI TO COME. THE KAURI TO COME. THAT MIGHT BE A WHILE AWAY. YEAH. (CHUCKLES) I HATE TO BREAK YOUR HEART. A LOT OF OUR SPECIES THAT WE ARE GROWING HERE, WE ARE AIMING TO HARVEST AROUND THE 40+ YEAR BRACKET WE ARE JUST NOW GETTING INTO THAT NOW. IT TAKES LONGER THAN PINE, AND IS MORE WORK, BUT THE TIMBER SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. IS THERE AN APPETITE FOR IT? I THINK THERE IS. I DO BELIEVE THERE IS. AND NOW THAT THERE IS A STRUCTURAL SHORTAGE OF TIMBER, THIS COULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE. YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS. DO YOU EVER GET WORRIED ABOUT SUPPLY OUT THERE, OF PEOPLE NOT PLANTING NEW PLANTATIONS? YEAH, I DO, ESPECIALLY IF WE REALLY STARTED SUPPLYING 5% OF THE NEW ZEALAND HOUSING MARKET. AT THE MOMENT, WE'RE PROBABLY SUPPLYING 0.5%. IF EVERYBODY GREW 10% OF SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THEN WE'D HAVE A REALLY GOOD SUPPLY OF ALTERNATIVE TIMBERS AVAILABLE IN NEW ZEALAND AS WELL. (ACOUSTIC GUITAR MUSIC) THE MISTY FOREST, LOOK AT THAT. THE SMELL OF MACROCARPA ` DIVINE. TONIGHT, THE STARS OF NEW ZEALAND CRICKET ARE CELEBRATED AT THE ANZ CRICKET AWARDS. THE CURRENT BLACKCAPS MIGHT BE UP THERE WITH THE BEST KIWI CRICKET TEAM OF ALL TIME. AND WHO BETTER TO TEST THAT THEORY THAN THE MAN WHO WAS PART OF ANOTHER GLORIOUS EPOCH. SIR RICHARD HADLEE, PADDLES ` AN ICON, A LEGEND. THE GOAT. IT'S HADLEE! HE BROKE AUSSIE CRICKETING HEARTS SO MANY TIMES THEY GAVE HIM THEIR GREATEST HONOUR ` SLEDGING HIM WITH A WORD THAT RHYMES WITH TANKER. (CROWD BOOS) FROM THE MID-'70S TILL THE EARLY '90S, HE SMOOTHLY STRODE THE SPORTING SCENE LIKE A COLOSSUS CROSSED WITH MAGNUM PI. WONDERFULLY WORLD-CLASS IN WHITE, BEAUTIFULLY BACK OF THE LENGTH IN BEIGE. RESPLENDENT WITH A NEW CHERRY IN RED. HEARTS MELTED AND WICKETS FELL. 1490 AT ALL. AS A NATION WE WERE, AND REMAIN, CLEAN BOWLED. AND ENGLAND WINS THEIR EIGHTH WICKET. AND SIR RICHARD HADLEE JOINS US NOW. RICHARD, YOU ARE A MAN RENOWNED FOR YOUR CLINICAL PRECISION. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS CURRENT NEW ZEALAND MEN'S SIDE HOME SEASON? OH, THEY HAVE HAD AN ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING YEAR. THEY'VE WON THE TEST SERIES, THE ODIS, THE T-20S. BEATING THE WEST INDIES, BANGLADESH, PAKISTAN AND OUR OLD MATES, AUSTRALIA. SO, REALLY, WE HAVE A VERY, VERY COMPETITIVE TEAM WHO HAVE ENTERTAINED US. SO MUCH DEPTH IN ALL FORMATS OF THE GAME. AND THE SELECTORS HAVE GOT A HARD JOB ON WHO TO LEAVE OUT, NOT NECESSARILY TO SELECT. WHY IS THIS NEW ZEALAND TEAM SO GOOD, DO YOU THINK? WELL, THEY'RE FULL TIME PROFESSIONALS NOW, THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. THEY'VE GOT A VERY GOOD SUPPORT STAFF. THEY'VE GOT A GREAT ATTITUDE TO THE GAME. THEY WORK HARD. TECHNICALLY, THEY'RE VERY GOOD. STRATEGICALLY, VERY GOOD UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF KANE WILLIAMSON, AND WHEN TOM LATHAM DOES THE ODD GAME AS CAPTAIN. SO, REALLY THE COMPLETE PACKAGE AT THE MOMENT, AND THEIR RATING SUGGESTS THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN TAKE ANYONE ON ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD AT THE MOMENT. SIR RICHARD, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO COMPARE ERAS, BUT PERSON FOR PERSON, I MEAN, YOU'RE A GREAT STATS MAN. ARE THE 2020-21 BLACK CAPS THE BEST TEAM WE'VE EVER HAD? WELL, PUT IT THIS WAY ` IF THEY CAN BEAT AUSTRALIA IN THE TEST SERIES, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT UP THERE WITH THE TEAM IN THE '80S. I'M A BIT BIASED, OBVIOUSLY. WE HAD A VERY GOOD TEAM IN THE '80S, BUT CLEARLY THIS TEAM IS OUTSTANDING. WE MUST RECOGNISE THEIR ACHIEVEMENTS, THEIR PERFORMANCES AND CONGRATULATE THEM ON WHAT THEY'VE DONE. WE WISH THEM WELL IN THE WORLD TEST CHAMPION MATCH AGAINST INDIA IN ENGLAND LATER IN THE YEAR. YEAH. SIR RICHARD, WHAT ARE OUR CHANCES OF BEATING INDIA IN THE TEST CHAMPIONSHIP IN ENGLAND IN A FEW MONTHS? WELL, IT'S A NEUTRAL GROUND, OBVIOUSLY. I THINK THEY'RE PLAYING THAT TEST MATCH AT SOUTHAMPTON. THE DUKE CRICKET BALL WILL CERTAINLY FAVOUR OUR PACE BOWLERS. WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME IF WE WENT INTO THAT TEST MATCH WITH ALL OUR TOP FOUR QUICKIES, AND I THINK INDIA MAY STRUGGLE AGAINST THAT BALL. YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PLAY PRETTY WELL TO BEAT THEM. GREAT TO SEE YOU, SIR RICHARD. GREAT TO SEE YOU LOOKING SO WELL AS WELL. THANKS VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. YOU LOVE YOUR CRICKET, DON'T YOU? I LOVE SIR RICHARD. YOU REALLY REALLY LOVE SIR RICHARD. I WAS SO EXCITED TO TALK TO HIM. STEPHEN FLEMING SET ME BESIDE SIR RICHARD ONCE BECAUSE HE KNOWS HOW MUCH I LOVED HIM. I CAN RECITE HIS ENTIRE CRICKET VIDEO WORD FOR WORD. IRENA GOT TO ASK HIM SOME QUESTIONS. I COULD TELL HE LOVED THE QUESTIONS I WAS ASKING. I SPENT TWO HOURS ASKING HIM QUESTIONS. WE HAVE TO WRAP IT UP. THE MAIN QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK IS WHY DID HE CHANGE THE SKIP? HE USED TO SKIP AROUND AND THEN THE RUN UP, AND THEN THE LITTLE HOP. I SAID, WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO CHANGE FROM THE SKIP TO THE HOT AND HE TOLD ME ALL ABOUT IT. WE HAD A GREAT TIME. SOUNDS REALLY, REALLY INTERESTING. COMING UP ON SEVEN SHARP ` AFTER 40 YEARS, THERE'S A SPECIAL TRAIN IN MASTERTON THAT'S STILL RUNNING ON TIME, BUT NOW IT NEEDS YOUR HELP. IF YOU'RE SITTING AT HOME AND YOU'RE FEELING LONELY AND YOU WANT SOMETHING TO DO, HOW ABOUT COMING DOWN AND GIVING US A HAND? WE NEED YOU FOR FIVE HOURS ONCE A MONTH TO COME AND HELP ` EITHER SELL TICKETS OR DRIVE THE TRAIN. Hey, uh,... Jimmy, you're riding with Rodney. - Far out. Big Rod, eh? - Everyone gets Rodneyed on their first day. - Hop in, mate. Don't worry about these bumholes! - (CHUCKLES) - Nah, they're good guys. Yeah, the guys always joke that I like to be on site before they've even left the base. But you know, I like to get there early, have a muffin, relax. You like muffins? (ENGINE REVS) Oh, I just got a new V8. Not a bogey-green one, though! (BOTH CHUCKLE) Hey, let's take the scenic route, eh? It's longer, but I make it fun. That's why the guys do paper, scissors, rock to see who comes with me. - Cos no one wants to go with that other dude you guys work with, eh? The one we were having a crack at this morning? - Who, Grubby Aaron? - Nah, you know, the guy that's always gunning it. - No one wants to ride with him. Yeah! Oh, man, he's got a V8 too. WELCOME BACK. LOVELY TO HAVE YOU WITH US. WE ALL KNOW THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY HASN'T HAD THE EASIEST TIME OF LATE. BUT WE'VE FOUND A WEE CAFE IN NEW PLYMOUTH DOING A MIGHTY TRADE. PERHAPS IT'S THE MENU, MAYBE IT'S THE FRIENDLY SERVICE. OR IT MIGHT BE THE ROCK-BOTTOM PRICES. MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE IT'S ONLY OPEN ON TUESDAYS, AND ALL THE MONEY IT MAKES, IT GIVES AWAY. CAROLYN ROBINSON BOOKED A TABLE. (BEYONCE'S 'XO') ON A GLOOMY AUTUMN MORNING, A LIT DOORWAY CALLS. INSIDE, THE PORRIDGE IS BEING STIRRED, THE DAILY BREAD'S BEING TOASTED, AND THE VOLUNTEERS ARE WARMING UP TOO. IT'S A ONCE-A-WEEK OFFERING ` TARANAKI'S CATHEDRAL OF ST MARY SERVING BREAKFAST FOR A BUCK. WE GET HUGE NUMBERS THROUGH. 100-200, SOMETIMES MORE. TABLE 11, THANK YOU. THE MOST POPULAR IS THE CREPES, BY FAR. EVERYONE COMES FOR THE CREPES. FRESHLY COOKED. AND BAKED BEANS AND SAUSAGES ARE HAVING A COMEBACK. SO YEAH, THEY'RE PRETTY HOT UP THERE AS WELL. (LAUGHS) EACH DISH HAS A SUGGESTED DONATION OF A DOLLAR. TOAST AND MARMALADE, PLEASE. BUT NO ONE HAS TO PAY. SOME WALK OUT AND GIVE US $20. OTHERS WALK OUT AND DON'T GIVE US ANYTHING, AND THAT'S FINE. THEY SOMETIMES BRING IN LITTLE GIFTS THEY'VE BROUGHT. OR THEY WANNA GO AND WASH THEIR CUP UP OR SOMETHING. ALL MORNING, THEY KEEP COMING. I HAD A CHOCOLATE CREPE. I HAD A SAUSAGE ON WHITE TOAST. AND A COFFEE, WHICH WAS REAL NICE. THE DOWNTRODDEN AND WEARY CERTAINLY. BUT THE AFFLUENT AND SOCIABLE, TOO. WE GET EVERYONE HERE ` WE GET BUSINESSMEN BEFORE THEY GO TO WORK, FAMILIES, YOUNG FAMILIES. WE GET GROUPS. WE HAD A COUPLE WHO CAME IN HERE FOR YEARS, AND HE WAS IN A WHEELCHAIR. HE PASSED AWAY, AND HIS WIDOW COMES IN, EVERY WEEK AND GETS THE SAME THING, AND SITS AT THE SAME SEAT WHERE THEY BOTH USED TO SIT. PAT (92) DRIES THE ETERNAL DISHES. NOTHING NOBLE ABOUT IT. I WOULDN'T BE DOING IT IF I DIDN'T LIKE IT. IT'S ONE THING I CAN DO. PAT SAYS THE WORST OF THE DISHES COME UPSTAIRS TO TOM. TOM'S 84. THE PORRIDGE POTS, NO MATCH FOR THE FORMER WEIGHTLIFTER. IN 2009, I GOT A BRONZE MEDAL IN TAUPO. THE ADJACENT CATHEDRAL HAS BEEN CLOSED SINCE 2016. THE OLDEST STONE CHURCH IN NEW ZEALAND NEEDS EARTHQUAKE STRENGTHENING AND REPAIRS. IT'LL TAKE AN ALMIGHTY FUNDRAISING EFFORT, BUT THE MONEY RAISED IN THIS KITCHEN HAS A HIGHER CALLING. EVERY THREE MONTHS, WE CHOOSE SEVERAL ORGANISATIONS TO DONATE TO. WE TRY AND CHOOSE A NEW PLYMOUTH BASED ONE, A TARANAKI BASED ONE, NEW ZEALAND, WE GO FOR THE ISLANDS, AND THEN WE DO A WORLDWIDE ONE. SO FAR, THEY'VE GIVEN AWAY MORE THAN $100,000. IT'S THE BEST PART OF ALL. IT'S JUST A REALLY FRIENDLY, KIND PLACE TO COME. IT'S JUST PART OF OUR WEEK. THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT ` YOU HELP ONE ANOTHER. WE'RE ALWAYS THE LAST, EVERY WEEK. WE LIKE IT THAT MUCH. (LAUGHS) YOU'RE FALLING BEHIND, PAT! IT'S YOUR FAULT! (LAUGHS) DO YOU LOVE YOUR JOB? LOVE IT. ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT. DON'T GET ME STARTED! IT'S PASSION. I'D DO THIS EVERY DAY IF I COULD. WHERE ARE WE GOING TODAY? I KNOW. WE'LL GO FOR BREAKFAST. AT THIS LOVELY PLACE. I LOVE THAT SO MUCH. THE BAKED BEANS ON TOAST WITH A LITTLE BIT OF PARSLEY GARNISH ON TOP. GOOD ON PAT. SHE IS SHARP. MASTERTON CAN BOAST MANY THINGS ` AMONG THEM ONE OF THE NATION'S FINEST PARKS. QUEEN ELIZABETH PARK IS IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN AND IN THE CENTRE OF THAT OASIS IS A MINIATURE TRAIN THAT'S BROUGHT JOY TO THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. IT'S A TRAIN WHICH HAS BEEN RUN AND MAINTAINED BY ONE MAN AND HIS TEAM OF VOLUNTEERS FOR 42 YEARS. JULIAN LEE REPORTS. THE MASTERTON MINIATURE TRAIN HAS BEEN RUNNING FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS. BY ONE ESTIMATE, A MILLION SOULS HAVE BEEN FOR A RIDE ON THE TRAIN ON THE ISLAND IN QUEEN ELIZABETH PARK. IT'S REALLY NICE THAT YOU GET LIKE MUM, MUM AND DAD AND THREE KIDS COME DOWN. FIVE BUCKS, THREE LAPS OF THE PARK FOR A DOLLAR A PERSON. SO THAT'S 33 CENTS A LAP. THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. THE ADMISSION PRICE HAS BEEN THE SAME SINCE THE 80S. IF YOU ADJUST FOR INFLATION YOU'D BE $3.40 RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T REALLY CARE. WE'RE JUST HERE TO GIVE PEOPLE A RIDE ON THE TRAIN AND HAVE SOME FUN. WE'RE COVERING OUR COSTS. IF WE CAN COVER OUR COSTS, WE DON'T NEED TO GO UP. BEING A MECHANIC AND A PETROL HEAD, AND AN ENGINEERING TYPE PERSON, THIS WAS PRETTY MUCH LIKE HAVING A BIG TRAIN SET TO PLAY WITH. SO ONCE YOU GOT A BIG TRAIN SET, I WAS COMING DOWN AND PLAYING WITH IT AND FIXING THE ENGINE AND JUST HELPING KEEP IT GOING. QUITE WARM, EH? YEAH, IT GETS WARM. YEAH. GOOD IN WINTER. LOCK IT IN. TOOT THE HORN. LOCK IT IN. TOOT THE HORN. (HORN SOUNDS) OH, HE'S A PROFESSIONAL NOW. (INDISTINCT CONVERSATION) JUST SLOWLY, JUST SLOWLY. WE'RE GONNA GO ROUND AGAIN. YOU WANT MORE? I THINK YOU'RE ALL RIGHT. I THINK YOU SCARED THEM OFF! WHAT WOULD YOU RATE THAT OUT OF 10? ABOUT 7. BIT MORE PRACTICE. WHY? WHAT WAS WRONG WITH IT? YOU WERE JUST A LITTLE BIT STOP AND START-Y. OH. OH. WHAT ABOUT YOURSELF? WHAT DID YOU RATE THAT? EIGHT POINT FIVE. OH REALLY? WELL, YOU'RE HAPPY WITH IT. IT WAS AN 8.5 FROM ME TOO. OH, I GOT AN 8.5 FROM YOU AS WELL. OH THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S HOW PROFESSIONALS DO IT. RIGHT NOW, GARY NEEDS AT LEAST FOUR MORE VOLUNTEERS TO KEEP THE TRAIN GOING. DO YOU WANNA DO JUST A MESSAGE TO MASTERTON DOWN THE BARREL THERE? YEAH, MASTERTON, IF YOU'RE SITTING AT HOME AND YOU'RE FEELING LONELY AND YOU WANT SOMETHING TO DO. HOW ABOUT COMING AND GIVING US A HAND? WE NEED YOU FOR FIVE HOURS ONCE A MONTH. COME AND HELP. EITHER SELL TICKETS, OR DRIVE THE TRAIN. DON'T SIT AT HOME BEING LONELY. WE NEED YOU. I'LL DO A FAST LAP. HE'S THE WELL DESERVED RECENT RECIPIENT OF THE HALLOWED MASTERTON DISTRICT COUNCIL CIVIC AWARD. BUT YOU GET THE FEELING THIS MAN SHOULD BE IN THE RUNNING FOR NATIONAL HONOURS. COME BACK IN A FEW YEARS, YOU CAN DRIVE FOR US. THAT'D BE GOOD. YAY! THAT'D BE SWEET AS. SO WHY HAVE YOU DONE IT FOR SO LONG? WHY HAVE YOU KEPT IT UP? I'M NOT SURE. I LOVE GOING FISHING. I LOVE HOONING IN MY CAR AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S GREAT. THE KIDS COME DOWN. THE KIDS LOVE IT. AND, YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE KIDS ` 'THANK YOU, MR DRIVER.' AND IT'S NOT JUST ME. THERE'S A TEAM OF PEOPLE BEHIND US. OUR TEAM KEEPS GOING UP AND DOWN. PEOPLE KEEP CHANGING, BUT I'VE BEEN HERE ALL THE TIME. AND IF IT WASN'T FOR GARY AND HIS TEAM, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THIS. (HORN HONKS) AT FIRST GLANCE, A DELIGHTFUL DIVERSION FROM EVERYDAY LIFE. BUT ON A DEEPER LEVEL ` CRITICAL NATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE. (HORN BEEPS) THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF OUR NATION'S SOUL. I HAVE SUCH FOND MEMORIES OF THAT TRAIN. I WROTE IT OFTEN BECAUSE I GREW UP IN WELLINGTON. WE WOULD OFTEN GO TO THE WAIRARAPA FOUR WEEKENDS. I THINK I WOULD HAVE BEEN AN INAUGURAL PASSENGER OF THAT TRAIN. IT MAKES ME FEEL VERY OLD INDEED. WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A MOMENT. ON THE SHOW TOMORROW ` KIWI ACTING LEGEND RAWIRI PARATENE LOOKS BACK ON HIS COLOURFUL CAREER, FROM PLAYSCHOOL TO HAMLET, AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. THOSE WERE OUR PEOPLE TODAY. THAT WAS SEVEN SHARP TONIGHT. DOG SQUAD PUPPY SCHOOL IS UP NEXT. WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW. CHEERIO. CAPTIONS BY KRISTIN WILLIAMS, PHOEBE UPTON AND STEFFI DRYDEN. CAPTIONS WERE MADE WITH THE SUPPORT OF NZ ON AIR.