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Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. 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I also seek leave from the House to her ministers. I also seek leave from the House to transfer her ministers. I also seek leave from the House to transfer my from the House to transfer my question from the House to transfer my question back from the House to transfer my question back to from the House to transfer my question back to the from the House to transfer my question back to the PM from the House to transfer my question back to the PM with from the House to transfer my question back to the PM with the question back to the PM with the original question back to the PM with the original wording question back to the PM with the original wording as question back to the PM with the original wording as lodged question back to the PM with the original wording as lodged to question back to the PM with the original wording as lodged to ask original wording as lodged to ask for original wording as lodged to ask for her original wording as lodged to ask for her views original wording as lodged to ask for her views on original wording as lodged to ask for her views on this original wording as lodged to ask for her views on this important for her views on this important matter. for her views on this important matter. 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Including crisis that has built up over the last decade. Including limiting last decade. Including limiting rents last decade. Including limiting rents increases last decade. Including limiting rents increases to last decade. Including limiting rents increases to once last decade. Including limiting rents increases to once a last decade. Including limiting rents increases to once a year, rents increases to once a year, banning rents increases to once a year, banning bidding, rents increases to once a year, banning bidding, banning rents increases to once a year, banning bidding, banning letting banning bidding, banning letting fee, banning bidding, banning letting fee, removing banning bidding, banning letting fee, removing no-cause banning bidding, banning letting fee, removing no-cause termination, fee, removing no-cause termination, allowing fee, removing no-cause termination, allowing renters fee, removing no-cause termination, allowing renters to fee, removing no-cause termination, allowing renters to go fee, removing no-cause termination, allowing renters to go to fee, removing no-cause termination, allowing renters to go to the allowing renters to go to the Tenancy allowing renters to go to the Tenancy Tribunal allowing renters to go to the Tenancy Tribunal to allowing renters to go to the Tenancy Tribunal to request allowing renters to go to the Tenancy Tribunal to request a allowing renters to go to the Tenancy Tribunal to request a rent Tenancy Tribunal to request a rent reduction Tenancy Tribunal to request a rent reduction if Tenancy Tribunal to request a rent reduction if they Tenancy Tribunal to request a rent reduction if they think Tenancy Tribunal to request a rent reduction if they think their Tenancy Tribunal to request a rent reduction if they think their rent reduction if they think their rent is reduction if they think their rent is too reduction if they think their rent is too high. reduction if they think their rent is too high. 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We will continue to monitor the rental market closely, monitor the rental market closely, including monitor the rental market closely, including rent monitor the rental market closely, including rent increases, monitor the rental market closely, including rent increases, turnover including rent increases, turnover of including rent increases, turnover of rental including rent increases, turnover of rental properties, including rent increases, turnover of rental properties, investor of rental properties, investor behaviour of rental properties, investor behaviour and of rental properties, investor behaviour and any of rental properties, investor behaviour and any changes of rental properties, investor behaviour and any changes to of rental properties, investor behaviour and any changes to total behaviour and any changes to total rental behaviour and any changes to total rental stock. behaviour and any changes to total rental stock. 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We're once a year and banning rental bidding. We're monitoring once a year and banning rental bidding. We're monitoring what bidding. We're monitoring what happens bidding. We're monitoring what happens with bidding. We're monitoring what happens with rent bidding. We're monitoring what happens with rent rises bidding. We're monitoring what happens with rent rises and bidding. We're monitoring what happens with rent rises and we bidding. We're monitoring what happens with rent rises and we will happens with rent rises and we will take happens with rent rises and we will take action happens with rent rises and we will take action when happens with rent rises and we will take action when necessary. happens with rent rises and we will take action when necessary. Mr take action when necessary. Mr Speaker, take action when necessary. Mr Speaker, I take action when necessary. Mr Speaker, I want take action when necessary. Mr Speaker, I want to take action when necessary. 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Mr Speaker, I want to quote from Stats Speaker, I want to quote from Stats New Speaker, I want to quote from Stats New Zealand Speaker, I want to quote from Stats New Zealand rental Speaker, I want to quote from Stats New Zealand rental Price Speaker, I want to quote from Stats New Zealand rental Price Index, New Zealand rental Price Index, which New Zealand rental Price Index, which show New Zealand rental Price Index, which show force New Zealand rental Price Index, which show force the New Zealand rental Price Index, which show force the year New Zealand rental Price Index, which show force the year to New Zealand rental Price Index, which show force the year to March which show force the year to March 2021 which show force the year to March 2021 a which show force the year to March 2021 a 1.6% which show force the year to March 2021 a 1.6% increase which show force the year to March 2021 a 1.6% increase in which show force the year to March 2021 a 1.6% increase in rents which show force the year to March 2021 a 1.6% increase in rents across 2021 a 1.6% increase in rents across the 2021 a 1.6% increase in rents across the country. 2021 a 1.6% increase in rents across the country. This 2021 a 1.6% increase in rents across the country. This is 2021 a 1.6% increase in rents across the country. This is lower 2021 a 1.6% increase in rents across the country. This is lower than 2021 a 1.6% increase in rents across the country. This is lower than the the country. This is lower than the past the country. This is lower than the past few the country. This is lower than the past few year, the country. This is lower than the past few year, which the country. This is lower than the past few year, which saw the country. 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I reiterate - if a tenant thinks the since 2009. I reiterate - if a tenant thinks the rent since 2009. I reiterate - if a tenant thinks the rent is since 2009. 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Mr improvements to the property? Mr Speaker, improvements to the property? Mr Speaker, what improvements to the property? Mr Speaker, what I improvements to the property? Mr Speaker, what I do improvements to the property? Mr Speaker, what I do think improvements to the property? 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Overall, improve rights and securities of renters. Overall, we improve rights and securities of renters. Overall, we have renters. Overall, we have aspirations renters. Overall, we have aspirations to renters. Overall, we have aspirations to ensure renters. Overall, we have aspirations to ensure that aspirations to ensure that regardless aspirations to ensure that regardless of aspirations to ensure that regardless of where aspirations to ensure that regardless of where your aspirations to ensure that regardless of where your home aspirations to ensure that regardless of where your home is, regardless of where your home is, whether regardless of where your home is, whether it's regardless of where your home is, whether it's a regardless of where your home is, whether it's a home regardless of where your home is, whether it's a home you regardless of where your home is, whether it's a home you own regardless of where your home is, whether it's a home you own or regardless of where your home is, whether it's a home you own or a whether it's a home you own or a home whether it's a home you own or a home you whether it's a home you own or a home you rent, whether it's a home you own or a home you rent, that whether it's a home you own or a home you rent, that that whether it's a home you own or a home you rent, that that is home you rent, that that is affordable, home you rent, that that is affordable, and home you rent, that that is affordable, and the home you rent, that that is affordable, and the government's affordable, and the government's housing affordable, and the government's housing package affordable, and the government's housing package goes affordable, and the government's housing package goes a affordable, and the government's housing package goes a long affordable, and the government's housing package goes a long way affordable, and the government's housing package goes a long way to housing package goes a long way to addressing housing package goes a long way to addressing this. housing package goes a long way to addressing this. Can housing package goes a long way to addressing this. Can she housing package goes a long way to addressing this. Can she confirm addressing this. Can she confirm that addressing this. Can she confirm that Treasury addressing this. Can she confirm that Treasury expects addressing this. Can she confirm that Treasury expects the addressing this. Can she confirm that Treasury expects the government that Treasury expects the government to that Treasury expects the government to subsidise that Treasury expects the government to subsidise people that Treasury expects the government to subsidise people who that Treasury expects the government to subsidise people who rent that Treasury expects the government to subsidise people who rent from to subsidise people who rent from private to subsidise people who rent from private landlords to subsidise people who rent from private landlords by to subsidise people who rent from private landlords by $2.4 to subsidise people who rent from private landlords by $2.4 billion private landlords by $2.4 billion this private landlords by $2.4 billion this year private landlords by $2.4 billion this year through private landlords by $2.4 billion this year through the private landlords by $2.4 billion this year through the accommodation this year through the accommodation supplement this year through the accommodation supplement because this year through the accommodation supplement because landlords this year through the accommodation supplement because landlords are supplement because landlords are charging supplement because landlords are charging higher supplement because landlords are charging higher rents supplement because landlords are charging higher rents than supplement because landlords are charging higher rents than 394,000 charging higher rents than 394,000 people charging higher rents than 394,000 people can charging higher rents than 394,000 people can afford? charging higher rents than 394,000 people can afford? The charging higher rents than 394,000 people can afford? The accommodation people can afford? The accommodation supplement people can afford? The accommodation supplement is people can afford? The accommodation supplement is a people can afford? The accommodation supplement is a support people can afford? The accommodation supplement is a support mechanism supplement is a support mechanism that supplement is a support mechanism that has supplement is a support mechanism that has been supplement is a support mechanism that has been in supplement is a support mechanism that has been in mace supplement is a support mechanism that has been in mace for supplement is a support mechanism that has been in mace for many that has been in mace for many years, that has been in mace for many years, to that has been in mace for many years, to support that has been in mace for many years, to support people that has been in mace for many years, to support people to that has been in mace for many years, to support people to have years, to support people to have affordable years, to support people to have affordable housing. years, to support people to have affordable housing. How years, to support people to have affordable housing. How many years, to support people to have affordable housing. How many new affordable housing. How many new state affordable housing. How many new state homes affordable housing. How many new state homes could affordable housing. How many new state homes could be affordable housing. How many new state homes could be built affordable housing. How many new state homes could be built with affordable housing. How many new state homes could be built with the state homes could be built with the money state homes could be built with the money that state homes could be built with the money that the state homes could be built with the money that the Government state homes could be built with the money that the Government currently money that the Government currently uses money that the Government currently uses to money that the Government currently uses to subsidise money that the Government currently uses to subsidise unaffordable uses to subsidise unaffordable private uses to subsidise unaffordable private rental uses to subsidise unaffordable private rental homes? uses to subsidise unaffordable private rental homes? I uses to subsidise unaffordable private rental homes? I think uses to subsidise unaffordable private rental homes? I think that's private rental homes? I think that's possibly private rental homes? I think that's possibly better private rental homes? I think that's possibly better directed private rental homes? I think that's possibly better directed to private rental homes? I think that's possibly better directed to the possibly better directed to the Minister possibly better directed to the Minister for possibly better directed to the Minister for Housing. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Social My question is to the Minister for Social Development My question is to the Minister for Social Development and My question is to the Minister for Social Development and Employment: Social Development and Employment: What Social Development and Employment: What recent Social Development and Employment: What recent reports, Social Development and Employment: What recent reports, if Social Development and Employment: What recent reports, if any, Social Development and Employment: What recent reports, if any, has Social Development and Employment: What recent reports, if any, has she What recent reports, if any, has she seen What recent reports, if any, has she seen about What recent reports, if any, has she seen about people What recent reports, if any, has she seen about people entering What recent reports, if any, has she seen about people entering into seen about people entering into employment, seen about people entering into employment, education, seen about people entering into employment, education, or seen about people entering into employment, education, or training? Today Today the Today the latest Today the latest household Today the latest household labour Today the latest household labour force Today the latest household labour force survey Today the latest household labour force survey was Today the latest household labour force survey was released Today the latest household labour force survey was released and Today the latest household labour force survey was released and it force survey was released and it showed force survey was released and it showed a force survey was released and it showed a further force survey was released and it showed a further fall force survey was released and it showed a further fall in showed a further fall in unemployment, showed a further fall in unemployment, down showed a further fall in unemployment, down to showed a further fall in unemployment, down to 4.7% showed a further fall in unemployment, down to 4.7% from showed a further fall in unemployment, down to 4.7% from 4.9% unemployment, down to 4.7% from 4.9% in unemployment, down to 4.7% from 4.9% in the unemployment, down to 4.7% from 4.9% in the December unemployment, down to 4.7% from 4.9% in the December quarter. unemployment, down to 4.7% from 4.9% in the December quarter. This unemployment, down to 4.7% from 4.9% in the December quarter. This is unemployment, down to 4.7% from 4.9% in the December quarter. This is in in the December quarter. This is in line in the December quarter. This is in line with in the December quarter. This is in line with what in the December quarter. This is in line with what we in the December quarter. This is in line with what we saw in the December quarter. This is in line with what we saw in in the December quarter. This is in line with what we saw in MSD's in the December quarter. This is in line with what we saw in MSD's March line with what we saw in MSD's March quarter line with what we saw in MSD's March quarter benefit line with what we saw in MSD's March quarter benefit statistics, line with what we saw in MSD's March quarter benefit statistics, with line with what we saw in MSD's March quarter benefit statistics, with a quarter benefit statistics, with a record quarter benefit statistics, with a record number quarter benefit statistics, with a record number of quarter benefit statistics, with a record number of New quarter benefit statistics, with a record number of New Zealanders record number of New Zealanders coming record number of New Zealanders coming off record number of New Zealanders coming off benefit record number of New Zealanders coming off benefit and record number of New Zealanders coming off benefit and nearly record number of New Zealanders coming off benefit and nearly 33,000 coming off benefit and nearly 33,000 entering coming off benefit and nearly 33,000 entering paid coming off benefit and nearly 33,000 entering paid work. coming off benefit and nearly 33,000 entering paid work. It coming off benefit and nearly 33,000 entering paid work. It is coming off benefit and nearly 33,000 entering paid work. It is despite entering paid work. It is despite the entering paid work. It is despite the effects entering paid work. It is despite the effects of entering paid work. It is despite the effects of COVID-19 entering paid work. It is despite the effects of COVID-19 or entering paid work. It is despite the effects of COVID-19 or the the effects of COVID-19 or the COVID-19 the effects of COVID-19 or the COVID-19 pandemic. the effects of COVID-19 or the COVID-19 pandemic. We the effects of COVID-19 or the COVID-19 pandemic. We are the effects of COVID-19 or the COVID-19 pandemic. We are seeing the effects of COVID-19 or the COVID-19 pandemic. We are seeing a COVID-19 pandemic. We are seeing a resilient COVID-19 pandemic. We are seeing a resilient labour COVID-19 pandemic. We are seeing a resilient labour market COVID-19 pandemic. We are seeing a resilient labour market with COVID-19 pandemic. We are seeing a resilient labour market with record resilient labour market with record numbers resilient labour market with record numbers of resilient labour market with record numbers of people resilient labour market with record numbers of people finding resilient labour market with record numbers of people finding work. numbers of people finding work. We're numbers of people finding work. We're also numbers of people finding work. We're also seeing numbers of people finding work. We're also seeing more numbers of people finding work. We're also seeing more people We're also seeing more people feeling We're also seeing more people feeling secure We're also seeing more people feeling secure in We're also seeing more people feeling secure in their We're also seeing more people feeling secure in their employment. feeling secure in their employment. These feeling secure in their employment. These are feeling secure in their employment. These are good feeling secure in their employment. These are good signs, feeling secure in their employment. These are good signs, but feeling secure in their employment. These are good signs, but as feeling secure in their employment. These are good signs, but as always, These are good signs, but as always, we These are good signs, but as always, we know These are good signs, but as always, we know there These are good signs, but as always, we know there is These are good signs, but as always, we know there is more These are good signs, but as always, we know there is more work These are good signs, but as always, we know there is more work to These are good signs, but as always, we know there is more work to do. we know there is more work to do. How we know there is more work to do. How has we know there is more work to do. How has the we know there is more work to do. How has the government we know there is more work to do. How has the government - we know there is more work to do. How has the government - what we know there is more work to do. How has the government - what has How has the government - what has the How has the government - what has the Government How has the government - what has the Government done How has the government - what has the Government done to How has the government - what has the Government done to keep How has the government - what has the Government done to keep people the Government done to keep people employed the Government done to keep people employed throughout the Government done to keep people employed throughout the the Government done to keep people employed throughout the COVID-19 employed throughout the COVID-19 pandemic? employed throughout the COVID-19 pandemic? The employed throughout the COVID-19 pandemic? The Government employed throughout the COVID-19 pandemic? The Government has employed throughout the COVID-19 pandemic? The Government has acted pandemic? The Government has acted as pandemic? The Government has acted as a pandemic? The Government has acted as a team pandemic? The Government has acted as a team across pandemic? The Government has acted as a team across multiple pandemic? The Government has acted as a team across multiple fronts. pandemic? The Government has acted as a team across multiple fronts. We as a team across multiple fronts. We worked as a team across multiple fronts. We worked quickly as a team across multiple fronts. We worked quickly to as a team across multiple fronts. We worked quickly to implement as a team across multiple fronts. We worked quickly to implement the as a team across multiple fronts. We worked quickly to implement the wage worked quickly to implement the wage subsidy worked quickly to implement the wage subsidy support worked quickly to implement the wage subsidy support and worked quickly to implement the wage subsidy support and we worked quickly to implement the wage subsidy support and we invested worked quickly to implement the wage subsidy support and we invested in subsidy support and we invested in sectors subsidy support and we invested in sectors such subsidy support and we invested in sectors such as subsidy support and we invested in sectors such as sport, subsidy support and we invested in sectors such as sport, arts, sectors such as sport, arts, conservation, sectors such as sport, arts, conservation, with sectors such as sport, arts, conservation, with recovery sectors such as sport, arts, conservation, with recovery packages conservation, with recovery packages to conservation, with recovery packages to keep conservation, with recovery packages to keep Kiwis conservation, with recovery packages to keep Kiwis in conservation, with recovery packages to keep Kiwis in work. conservation, with recovery packages to keep Kiwis in work. On conservation, with recovery packages to keep Kiwis in work. On top conservation, with recovery packages to keep Kiwis in work. On top of to keep Kiwis in work. On top of that, to keep Kiwis in work. On top of that, we to keep Kiwis in work. On top of that, we have to keep Kiwis in work. On top of that, we have continued to keep Kiwis in work. On top of that, we have continued to that, we have continued to strengthen that, we have continued to strengthen our that, we have continued to strengthen our industry that, we have continued to strengthen our industry partnerships strengthen our industry partnerships to strengthen our industry partnerships to ensure strengthen our industry partnerships to ensure that strengthen our industry partnerships to ensure that we strengthen our industry partnerships to ensure that we can strengthen our industry partnerships to ensure that we can work strengthen our industry partnerships to ensure that we can work with strengthen our industry partnerships to ensure that we can work with New to ensure that we can work with New Zealand to ensure that we can work with New Zealand businesses to ensure that we can work with New Zealand businesses to to ensure that we can work with New Zealand businesses to fill to ensure that we can work with New Zealand businesses to fill any Zealand businesses to fill any spaces Zealand businesses to fill any spaces where Zealand businesses to fill any spaces where there Zealand businesses to fill any spaces where there are Zealand businesses to fill any spaces where there are workforce spaces where there are workforce shortages. spaces where there are workforce shortages. By spaces where there are workforce shortages. By resetting spaces where there are workforce shortages. By resetting the spaces where there are workforce shortages. By resetting the economic shortages. By resetting the economic conditions, shortages. By resetting the economic conditions, keeping shortages. By resetting the economic conditions, keeping people shortages. By resetting the economic conditions, keeping people in shortages. By resetting the economic conditions, keeping people in work conditions, keeping people in work and conditions, keeping people in work and helping conditions, keeping people in work and helping people conditions, keeping people in work and helping people retrain, conditions, keeping people in work and helping people retrain, we're and helping people retrain, we're and helping people retrain, we're and helping people retrain, we're seeing a and helping people retrain, we're seeing a labour and helping people retrain, we're seeing a labour market and helping people retrain, we're seeing a labour market that and helping people retrain, we're seeing a labour market that is seeing a labour market that is performing seeing a labour market that is performing above seeing a labour market that is performing above expectations. seeing a labour market that is performing above expectations. Hear, performing above expectations. Hear, hear. performing above expectations. Hear, hear. What performing above expectations. Hear, hear. What is performing above expectations. Hear, hear. What is the performing above expectations. Hear, hear. What is the Government performing above expectations. Hear, hear. What is the Government doing hear. What is the Government doing to hear. What is the Government doing to help hear. What is the Government doing to help people hear. What is the Government doing to help people who hear. What is the Government doing to help people who are hear. What is the Government doing to help people who are out hear. What is the Government doing to help people who are out of hear. What is the Government doing to help people who are out of work to help people who are out of work back to help people who are out of work back into to help people who are out of work back into work? to help people who are out of work back into work? We to help people who are out of work back into work? We have to help people who are out of work back into work? We have many back into work? We have many different back into work? We have many different employment back into work? We have many different employment programmes back into work? We have many different employment programmes that different employment programmes that are different employment programmes that are designed different employment programmes that are designed to different employment programmes that are designed to help different employment programmes that are designed to help those different employment programmes that are designed to help those who different employment programmes that are designed to help those who are different employment programmes that are designed to help those who are - are designed to help those who are - particularly are designed to help those who are - particularly those are designed to help those who are - particularly those who are designed to help those who are - particularly those who are particularly those who are disadvantaged particularly those who are disadvantaged in particularly those who are disadvantaged in the particularly those who are disadvantaged in the labour particularly those who are disadvantaged in the labour market. disadvantaged in the labour market. 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The aim of these programmes is to The aim of these programmes is to instil The aim of these programmes is to instil skills The aim of these programmes is to instil skills and The aim of these programmes is to instil skills and confidence The aim of these programmes is to instil skills and confidence in The aim of these programmes is to instil skills and confidence in job instil skills and confidence in job seekers, instil skills and confidence in job seekers, so instil skills and confidence in job seekers, so they instil skills and confidence in job seekers, so they are instil skills and confidence in job seekers, so they are work instil skills and confidence in job seekers, so they are work ready instil skills and confidence in job seekers, so they are work ready and seekers, so they are work ready and then seekers, so they are work ready and then we seekers, so they are work ready and then we match seekers, so they are work ready and then we match them seekers, so they are work ready and then we match them up seekers, so they are work ready and then we match them up with seekers, so they are work ready and then we match them up with the then we match them up with the employers then we match them up with the employers and then we match them up with the employers and the then we match them up with the employers and the jobs then we match them up with the employers and the jobs available. then we match them up with the employers and the jobs available. As employers and the jobs available. As the employers and the jobs available. As the PM employers and the jobs available. As the PM said employers and the jobs available. As the PM said earlier, employers and the jobs available. As the PM said earlier, we employers and the jobs available. As the PM said earlier, we are employers and the jobs available. As the PM said earlier, we are seeing the PM said earlier, we are seeing great the PM said earlier, we are seeing great successes the PM said earlier, we are seeing great successes with the PM said earlier, we are seeing great successes with apprenticeship great successes with apprenticeship boost, great successes with apprenticeship boost, Oranga great successes with apprenticeship boost, Oranga Tamariki, great successes with apprenticeship boost, Oranga Tamariki, Maori great successes with apprenticeship boost, Oranga Tamariki, Maori trades boost, Oranga Tamariki, Maori trades training boost, Oranga Tamariki, Maori trades training and boost, Oranga Tamariki, Maori trades training and industry boost, Oranga Tamariki, Maori trades training and industry partnership training and industry partnership programmes, training and industry partnership programmes, among training and industry partnership programmes, among others. training and industry partnership programmes, among others. Our programmes, among others. Our expanded programmes, among others. Our expanded flexi programmes, among others. Our expanded flexi wage programmes, among others. Our expanded flexi wage subsidy programmes, among others. Our expanded flexi wage subsidy is expanded flexi wage subsidy is making expanded flexi wage subsidy is making a expanded flexi wage subsidy is making a real expanded flexi wage subsidy is making a real difference expanded flexi wage subsidy is making a real difference to making a real difference to employers making a real difference to employers by making a real difference to employers by providing making a real difference to employers by providing them making a real difference to employers by providing them with employers by providing them with incentives employers by providing them with incentives to employers by providing them with incentives to take employers by providing them with incentives to take on employers by providing them with incentives to take on staff employers by providing them with incentives to take on staff who employers by providing them with incentives to take on staff who need incentives to take on staff who need a incentives to take on staff who need a little incentives to take on staff who need a little bit incentives to take on staff who need a little bit more incentives to take on staff who need a little bit more support incentives to take on staff who need a little bit more support in incentives to take on staff who need a little bit more support in the a little bit more support in the workplace. a little bit more support in the workplace. If a little bit more support in the workplace. If the a little bit more support in the workplace. If the unemployment a little bit more support in the workplace. If the unemployment rate workplace. If the unemployment rate is workplace. If the unemployment rate is the workplace. If the unemployment rate is the same workplace. If the unemployment rate is the same as workplace. If the unemployment rate is the same as it workplace. If the unemployment rate is the same as it was workplace. If the unemployment rate is the same as it was in workplace. If the unemployment rate is the same as it was in September is the same as it was in September 2017, is the same as it was in September 2017, why is the same as it was in September 2017, why then is the same as it was in September 2017, why then in is the same as it was in September 2017, why then in the is the same as it was in September 2017, why then in the same is the same as it was in September 2017, why then in the same time 2017, why then in the same time period 2017, why then in the same time period are 2017, why then in the same time period are there 2017, why then in the same time period are there now 2017, why then in the same time period are there now 75,000 2017, why then in the same time period are there now 75,000 more 2017, why then in the same time period are there now 75,000 more on period are there now 75,000 more on the period are there now 75,000 more on the Jobseeker period are there now 75,000 more on the Jobseeker benefit? period are there now 75,000 more on the Jobseeker benefit? The period are there now 75,000 more on the Jobseeker benefit? The member the Jobseeker benefit? The member knows the Jobseeker benefit? The member knows that the Jobseeker benefit? The member knows that the the Jobseeker benefit? The member knows that the household the Jobseeker benefit? The member knows that the household labour knows that the household labour force knows that the household labour force survey knows that the household labour force survey is knows that the household labour force survey is a knows that the household labour force survey is a survey. knows that the household labour force survey is a survey. What knows that the household labour force survey is a survey. What the force survey is a survey. What the member force survey is a survey. What the member also force survey is a survey. What the member also knows force survey is a survey. What the member also knows is force survey is a survey. What the member also knows is that force survey is a survey. What the member also knows is that since member also knows is that since mid-January member also knows is that since mid-January 2021 member also knows is that since mid-January 2021 this member also knows is that since mid-January 2021 this overwe member also knows is that since mid-January 2021 this overwe have mid-January 2021 this overwe have actually mid-January 2021 this overwe have actually seen mid-January 2021 this overwe have actually seen a mid-January 2021 this overwe have actually seen a reduction mid-January 2021 this overwe have actually seen a reduction of mid-January 2021 this overwe have actually seen a reduction of around actually seen a reduction of around 30,000 actually seen a reduction of around 30,000 people actually seen a reduction of around 30,000 people on actually seen a reduction of around 30,000 people on benefit, actually seen a reduction of around 30,000 people on benefit, down actually seen a reduction of around 30,000 people on benefit, down from 30,000 people on benefit, down from 390,000 30,000 people on benefit, down from 390,000 to 30,000 people on benefit, down from 390,000 to 360,000. 30,000 people on benefit, down from 390,000 to 360,000. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Social My question is to the Minister for Social Development My question is to the Minister for Social Development and My question is to the Minister for Social Development and Employment: Social Development and Employment: When Social Development and Employment: When will Social Development and Employment: When will the Social Development and Employment: When will the Government Social Development and Employment: When will the Government start When will the Government start publicly When will the Government start publicly reporting When will the Government start publicly reporting on When will the Government start publicly reporting on the When will the Government start publicly reporting on the number When will the Government start publicly reporting on the number of publicly reporting on the number of jobs publicly reporting on the number of jobs created publicly reporting on the number of jobs created from publicly reporting on the number of jobs created from all publicly reporting on the number of jobs created from all its publicly reporting on the number of jobs created from all its employment jobs created from all its employment initiatives jobs created from all its employment initiatives to jobs created from all its employment initiatives to support jobs created from all its employment initiatives to support the jobs created from all its employment initiatives to support the 196,806 initiatives to support the 196,806 recipients initiatives to support the 196,806 recipients of initiatives to support the 196,806 recipients of jobseeker initiatives to support the 196,806 recipients of jobseeker support initiatives to support the 196,806 recipients of jobseeker support into recipients of jobseeker support into paid recipients of jobseeker support into paid employment? 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