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INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: Almighty INTERPRETER: Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. 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In particular our announcements on the particular our announcements on the weekend particular our announcements on the weekend to particular our announcements on the weekend to support particular our announcements on the weekend to support cancer particular our announcements on the weekend to support cancer screening. weekend to support cancer screening. Budget weekend to support cancer screening. Budget 2021 weekend to support cancer screening. Budget 2021 will weekend to support cancer screening. Budget 2021 will see weekend to support cancer screening. Budget 2021 will see investment weekend to support cancer screening. 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The aged from 25 to 69 years' old. The new aged from 25 to 69 years' old. The new test aged from 25 to 69 years' old. The new test will aged from 25 to 69 years' old. The new test will be aged from 25 to 69 years' old. The new test will be a aged from 25 to 69 years' old. The new test will be a simple aged from 25 to 69 years' old. The new test will be a simple quick aged from 25 to 69 years' old. The new test will be a simple quick swab new test will be a simple quick swab that new test will be a simple quick swab that women new test will be a simple quick swab that women can new test will be a simple quick swab that women can eventually new test will be a simple quick swab that women can eventually choose new test will be a simple quick swab that women can eventually choose to that women can eventually choose to do that women can eventually choose to do themselves. that women can eventually choose to do themselves. This that women can eventually choose to do themselves. 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Does who tragically died from these two diseases. . Does the who tragically died from these two diseases. . Does the PM who tragically died from these two diseases. . Does the PM stand who tragically died from these two diseases. . Does the PM stand by who tragically died from these two diseases. . Does the PM stand by her diseases. . Does the PM stand by her various diseases. . Does the PM stand by her various statements diseases. . Does the PM stand by her various statements that diseases. . Does the PM stand by her various statements that her various statements that her Government's various statements that her Government's COVID various statements that her Government's COVID response various statements that her Government's COVID response went Government's COVID response went quote, Government's COVID response went quote, "Hard Government's COVID response went quote, "Hard and Government's COVID response went quote, "Hard and early"? Government's COVID response went quote, "Hard and early"? Mr Government's COVID response went quote, "Hard and early"? Mr Speaker, quote, "Hard and early"? Mr Speaker, yes. quote, "Hard and early"? Mr Speaker, yes. How, quote, "Hard and early"? Mr Speaker, yes. How, then, quote, "Hard and early"? Mr Speaker, yes. How, then, would quote, "Hard and early"? Mr Speaker, yes. How, then, would she yes. How, then, would she characterise yes. How, then, would she characterise her yes. How, then, would she characterise her Government's characterise her Government's rollout characterise her Government's rollout of characterise her Government's rollout of the characterise her Government's rollout of the COVID-19 characterise her Government's rollout of the COVID-19 vaccine? characterise her Government's rollout of the COVID-19 vaccine? Mr rollout of the COVID-19 vaccine? Mr Speaker, rollout of the COVID-19 vaccine? Mr Speaker, in rollout of the COVID-19 vaccine? 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If you look around the world and compare ourselves to those world and compare ourselves to those countries world and compare ourselves to those countries who world and compare ourselves to those countries who have world and compare ourselves to those countries who have had world and compare ourselves to those countries who have had similar countries who have had similar strategies countries who have had similar strategies or, countries who have had similar strategies or, indeed, countries who have had similar strategies or, indeed, similar strategies or, indeed, similar relative strategies or, indeed, similar relative success strategies or, indeed, similar relative success in strategies or, indeed, similar relative success in terms strategies or, indeed, similar relative success in terms of strategies or, indeed, similar relative success in terms of both relative success in terms of both incidence relative success in terms of both incidence and relative success in terms of both incidence and fiction relative success in terms of both incidence and fiction and relative success in terms of both incidence and fiction and tragically incidence and fiction and tragically the incidence and fiction and tragically the loss incidence and fiction and tragically the loss of incidence and fiction and tragically the loss of life, incidence and fiction and tragically the loss of life, you'll incidence and fiction and tragically the loss of life, you'll see incidence and fiction and tragically the loss of life, you'll see the the loss of life, you'll see the likes the loss of life, you'll see the likes of the loss of life, you'll see the likes of Australia, the loss of life, you'll see the likes of Australia, New the loss of life, you'll see the likes of Australia, New Zealand, likes of Australia, New Zealand, from likes of Australia, New Zealand, from memory likes of Australia, New Zealand, from memory South likes of Australia, New Zealand, from memory South Korea, likes of Australia, New Zealand, from memory South Korea, Vietnam, from memory South Korea, Vietnam, sitting from memory South Korea, Vietnam, sitting at from memory South Korea, Vietnam, sitting at similar from memory South Korea, Vietnam, sitting at similar rates from memory South Korea, Vietnam, sitting at similar rates of sitting at similar rates of vaccination. sitting at similar rates of vaccination. 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Mr Speaker, that is because, yes, we were really in the because, yes, we were really in the front because, yes, we were really in the front of because, yes, we were really in the front of the because, yes, we were really in the front of the pack because, yes, we were really in the front of the pack of because, yes, we were really in the front of the pack of securing front of the pack of securing agreements front of the pack of securing agreements with front of the pack of securing agreements with companies front of the pack of securing agreements with companies for front of the pack of securing agreements with companies for the agreements with companies for the delivery agreements with companies for the delivery of agreements with companies for the delivery of vaccine. agreements with companies for the delivery of vaccine. However, delivery of vaccine. However, distribution delivery of vaccine. However, distribution is delivery of vaccine. However, distribution is a delivery of vaccine. However, distribution is a secondary distribution is a secondary question. distribution is a secondary question. Mr distribution is a secondary question. Mr Speaker, distribution is a secondary question. Mr Speaker, in distribution is a secondary question. Mr Speaker, in my distribution is a secondary question. Mr Speaker, in my view, distribution is a secondary question. Mr Speaker, in my view, I question. Mr Speaker, in my view, I think question. Mr Speaker, in my view, I think that question. Mr Speaker, in my view, I think that we question. Mr Speaker, in my view, I think that we should question. Mr Speaker, in my view, I think that we should hold question. Mr Speaker, in my view, I think that we should hold our question. Mr Speaker, in my view, I think that we should hold our heads think that we should hold our heads up, think that we should hold our heads up, that think that we should hold our heads up, that whilst think that we should hold our heads up, that whilst we think that we should hold our heads up, that whilst we are think that we should hold our heads up, that whilst we are in think that we should hold our heads up, that whilst we are in a think that we should hold our heads up, that whilst we are in a global up, that whilst we are in a global environment up, that whilst we are in a global environment where up, that whilst we are in a global environment where some up, that whilst we are in a global environment where some are up, that whilst we are in a global environment where some are seeing environment where some are seeing the environment where some are seeing the devastating environment where some are seeing the devastating impacts environment where some are seeing the devastating impacts of environment where some are seeing the devastating impacts of COVID, the devastating impacts of COVID, that the devastating impacts of COVID, that we the devastating impacts of COVID, that we have the devastating impacts of COVID, that we have taken the devastating impacts of COVID, that we have taken our the devastating impacts of COVID, that we have taken our rightful that we have taken our rightful place that we have taken our rightful place in that we have taken our rightful place in the that we have taken our rightful place in the delivery that we have taken our rightful place in the delivery of that we have taken our rightful place in the delivery of vaccine place in the delivery of vaccine because place in the delivery of vaccine because people place in the delivery of vaccine because people simply place in the delivery of vaccine because people simply are place in the delivery of vaccine because people simply are not place in the delivery of vaccine because people simply are not dying because people simply are not dying in because people simply are not dying in New because people simply are not dying in New Zealand. because people simply are not dying in New Zealand. 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In fact, Mr Speaker, what I would say is we have been what I would say is we have been very what I would say is we have been very deliberate what I would say is we have been very deliberate about what I would say is we have been very deliberate about the what I would say is we have been very deliberate about the fact what I would say is we have been very deliberate about the fact that very deliberate about the fact that our very deliberate about the fact that our rollout very deliberate about the fact that our rollout continues very deliberate about the fact that our rollout continues on very deliberate about the fact that our rollout continues on a very deliberate about the fact that our rollout continues on a tra very deliberate about the fact that our rollout continues on a tra - very deliberate about the fact that our rollout continues on a tra - an our rollout continues on a tra - an upward our rollout continues on a tra - an upward trajectory our rollout continues on a tra - an upward trajectory in our rollout continues on a tra - an upward trajectory in line our rollout continues on a tra - an upward trajectory in line with our rollout continues on a tra - an upward trajectory in line with the upward trajectory in line with the delivery upward trajectory in line with the delivery of upward trajectory in line with the delivery of vaccine upward trajectory in line with the delivery of vaccine that upward trajectory in line with the delivery of vaccine that we upward trajectory in line with the delivery of vaccine that we have delivery of vaccine that we have certainty delivery of vaccine that we have certainty around. delivery of vaccine that we have certainty around. So delivery of vaccine that we have certainty around. So we delivery of vaccine that we have certainty around. So we always delivery of vaccine that we have certainty around. So we always said certainty around. So we always said we're certainty around. So we always said we're working certainty around. So we always said we're working toward certainty around. So we always said we're working toward as certainty around. So we always said we're working toward as July certainty around. So we always said we're working toward as July date we're working toward as July date for we're working toward as July date for general we're working toward as July date for general population we're working toward as July date for general population rollout. we're working toward as July date for general population rollout. That for general population rollout. That sequencing for general population rollout. That sequencing is for general population rollout. That sequencing is aligned for general population rollout. That sequencing is aligned with for general population rollout. That sequencing is aligned with when for general population rollout. That sequencing is aligned with when we sequencing is aligned with when we expect sequencing is aligned with when we expect having sequencing is aligned with when we expect having enough sequencing is aligned with when we expect having enough vaccine sequencing is aligned with when we expect having enough vaccine in sequencing is aligned with when we expect having enough vaccine in the expect having enough vaccine in the country expect having enough vaccine in the country to expect having enough vaccine in the country to start expect having enough vaccine in the country to start that. expect having enough vaccine in the country to start that. We expect having enough vaccine in the country to start that. We have expect having enough vaccine in the country to start that. We have also country to start that. We have also aligned country to start that. We have also aligned our country to start that. We have also aligned our rollout, country to start that. We have also aligned our rollout, we country to start that. We have also aligned our rollout, we hope, country to start that. We have also aligned our rollout, we hope, Mr aligned our rollout, we hope, Mr Speaker, aligned our rollout, we hope, Mr Speaker, not aligned our rollout, we hope, Mr Speaker, not being aligned our rollout, we hope, Mr Speaker, not being in aligned our rollout, we hope, Mr Speaker, not being in a aligned our rollout, we hope, Mr Speaker, not being in a position aligned our rollout, we hope, Mr Speaker, not being in a position of Speaker, not being in a position of running Speaker, not being in a position of running out, Speaker, not being in a position of running out, that's Speaker, not being in a position of running out, that's been Speaker, not being in a position of running out, that's been a Speaker, not being in a position of running out, that's been a risk running out, that's been a risk throughout running out, that's been a risk throughout the running out, that's been a risk throughout the rollout running out, that's been a risk throughout the rollout because running out, that's been a risk throughout the rollout because one throughout the rollout because one of throughout the rollout because one of the throughout the rollout because one of the issues throughout the rollout because one of the issues we throughout the rollout because one of the issues we face throughout the rollout because one of the issues we face then throughout the rollout because one of the issues we face then is throughout the rollout because one of the issues we face then is if throughout the rollout because one of the issues we face then is if you of the issues we face then is if you have of the issues we face then is if you have a of the issues we face then is if you have a large of the issues we face then is if you have a large period of the issues we face then is if you have a large period with of the issues we face then is if you have a large period with no of the issues we face then is if you have a large period with no vaccine have a large period with no vaccine to have a large period with no vaccine to deliver, have a large period with no vaccine to deliver, we have a large period with no vaccine to deliver, we have have a large period with no vaccine to deliver, we have staff have a large period with no vaccine to deliver, we have staff sitting to deliver, we have staff sitting idle, to deliver, we have staff sitting idle, vaccination to deliver, we have staff sitting idle, vaccination centres to deliver, we have staff sitting idle, vaccination centres sitting idle, vaccination centres sitting and idle, vaccination centres sitting and I idle, vaccination centres sitting and I think idle, vaccination centres sitting and I think none idle, vaccination centres sitting and I think none of idle, vaccination centres sitting and I think none of us idle, vaccination centres sitting and I think none of us want idle, vaccination centres sitting and I think none of us want that. idle, vaccination centres sitting and I think none of us want that. 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Does she stand by her Government's action of proposing her Government's action of proposing so-called her Government's action of proposing so-called Fair her Government's action of proposing so-called Fair Pay her Government's action of proposing so-called Fair Pay Agreements her Government's action of proposing so-called Fair Pay Agreements for so-called Fair Pay Agreements for any so-called Fair Pay Agreements for any sector so-called Fair Pay Agreements for any sector where so-called Fair Pay Agreements for any sector where 10% so-called Fair Pay Agreements for any sector where 10% of so-called Fair Pay Agreements for any sector where 10% of workers so-called Fair Pay Agreements for any sector where 10% of workers want any sector where 10% of workers want them any sector where 10% of workers want them instead any sector where 10% of workers want them instead of any sector where 10% of workers want them instead of the any sector where 10% of workers want them instead of the one any sector where 10% of workers want them instead of the one or any sector where 10% of workers want them instead of the one or two them instead of the one or two sectors them instead of the one or two sectors as them instead of the one or two sectors as her them instead of the one or two sectors as her Government them instead of the one or two sectors as her Government long them instead of the one or two sectors as her Government long led sectors as her Government long led people sectors as her Government long led people to sectors as her Government long led people to believe sectors as her Government long led people to believe over sectors as her Government long led people to believe over several people to believe over several years? people to believe over several years? 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There have been inquiries from employers employers. There have been inquiries from employers who employers. There have been inquiries from employers who wish employers. There have been inquiries from employers who wish their from employers who wish their industries from employers who wish their industries to from employers who wish their industries to be from employers who wish their industries to be involved from employers who wish their industries to be involved because industries to be involved because you industries to be involved because you find industries to be involved because you find there's industries to be involved because you find there's some industries to be involved because you find there's some excellent you find there's some excellent employers you find there's some excellent employers who you find there's some excellent employers who find you find there's some excellent employers who find themselves, you find there's some excellent employers who find themselves, for employers who find themselves, for instance, employers who find themselves, for instance, in employers who find themselves, for instance, in procurement employers who find themselves, for instance, in procurement where instance, in procurement where they're instance, in procurement where they're racing instance, in procurement where they're racing to instance, in procurement where they're racing to the instance, in procurement where they're racing to the bottom. instance, in procurement where they're racing to the bottom. 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Does the PM agree with the the PM agree with the recommendations the PM agree with the recommendations of the PM agree with the recommendations of the the PM agree with the recommendations of the Dept the PM agree with the recommendations of the Dept of recommendations of the Dept of Conservation's recommendations of the Dept of Conservation's options recommendations of the Dept of Conservation's options development Conservation's options development group, Conservation's options development group, the Conservation's options development group, the Government Conservation's options development group, the Government commissioned, group, the Government commissioned, when group, the Government commissioned, when it group, the Government commissioned, when it said group, the Government commissioned, when it said it group, the Government commissioned, when it said it believes group, the Government commissioned, when it said it believes that when it said it believes that delegation, when it said it believes that delegation, transfer when it said it believes that delegation, transfer and when it said it believes that delegation, transfer and devolution delegation, transfer and devolution of delegation, transfer and devolution of functions delegation, transfer and devolution of functions and delegation, transfer and devolution of functions and powers delegation, transfer and devolution of functions and powers within delegation, transfer and devolution of functions and powers within the of functions and powers within the conservation of functions and powers within the conservation system of functions and powers within the conservation system tu of functions and powers within the conservation system tu tangata conservation system tu tangata whenua. conservation system tu tangata whenua. 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I have not read the document in full that the remember refers to in full that the remember refers to nor in full that the remember refers to nor would in full that the remember refers to nor would I in full that the remember refers to nor would I expect in full that the remember refers to nor would I expect to in full that the remember refers to nor would I expect to at in full that the remember refers to nor would I expect to at this in full that the remember refers to nor would I expect to at this stage. nor would I expect to at this stage. Does nor would I expect to at this stage. Does she nor would I expect to at this stage. Does she think nor would I expect to at this stage. Does she think that nor would I expect to at this stage. Does she think that the nor would I expect to at this stage. 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And great interest to New Zealanders? And if great interest to New Zealanders? And if so, great interest to New Zealanders? And if so, why great interest to New Zealanders? And if so, why was great interest to New Zealanders? And if so, why was it great interest to New Zealanders? And if so, why was it not great interest to New Zealanders? And if so, why was it not in great interest to New Zealanders? And if so, why was it not in the And if so, why was it not in the speech And if so, why was it not in the speech from And if so, why was it not in the speech from the And if so, why was it not in the speech from the Throne. And if so, why was it not in the speech from the Throne. Mr And if so, why was it not in the speech from the Throne. Mr Speaker, speech from the Throne. Mr Speaker, I speech from the Throne. Mr Speaker, I would speech from the Throne. Mr Speaker, I would contend speech from the Throne. Mr Speaker, I would contend that speech from the Throne. Mr Speaker, I would contend that actually speech from the Throne. Mr Speaker, I would contend that actually some I would contend that actually some of I would contend that actually some of these I would contend that actually some of these approximatelies I would contend that actually some of these approximatelies have I would contend that actually some of these approximatelies have been of these approximatelies have been contained of these approximatelies have been contained in of these approximatelies have been contained in the of these approximatelies have been contained in the Conservation of these approximatelies have been contained in the Conservation Act contained in the Conservation Act since contained in the Conservation Act since 1987. contained in the Conservation Act since 1987. Question contained in the Conservation Act since 1987. Question No. contained in the Conservation Act since 1987. Question No. 2. Thank Thank you, Thank you, Mr Thank you, Mr Speaker. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: Finance: What Finance: What recent Finance: What recent reports Finance: What recent reports has Finance: What recent reports has he Finance: What recent reports has he seen What recent reports has he seen on What recent reports has he seen on the What recent reports has he seen on the New What recent reports has he seen on the New Zealand What recent reports has he seen on the New Zealand economy? 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Today, Statistics NZ announced it Today, Statistics NZ announced it seasonally Today, Statistics NZ announced it seasonally adjusted Today, Statistics NZ announced it seasonally adjusted retail Today, Statistics NZ announced it seasonally adjusted retail card seasonally adjusted retail card spending seasonally adjusted retail card spending rose seasonally adjusted retail card spending rose in seasonally adjusted retail card spending rose in April, seasonally adjusted retail card spending rose in April, the seasonally adjusted retail card spending rose in April, the highest spending rose in April, the highest it spending rose in April, the highest it has spending rose in April, the highest it has been spending rose in April, the highest it has been this spending rose in April, the highest it has been this year spending rose in April, the highest it has been this year and spending rose in April, the highest it has been this year and up spending rose in April, the highest it has been this year and up 4% spending rose in April, the highest it has been this year and up 4% from it has been this year and up 4% from the it has been this year and up 4% from the previous it has been this year and up 4% from the previous month. it has been this year and up 4% from the previous month. The it has been this year and up 4% from the previous month. The gains it has been this year and up 4% from the previous month. The gains is the previous month. The gains is awarded the previous month. The gains is awarded based the previous month. The gains is awarded based led the previous month. The gains is awarded based led by the previous month. The gains is awarded based led by the the previous month. The gains is awarded based led by the hospitality awarded based led by the hospitality sector, awarded based led by the hospitality sector, groceries awarded based led by the hospitality sector, groceries and awarded based led by the hospitality sector, groceries and household sector, groceries and household durables. sector, groceries and household durables. There sector, groceries and household durables. There was sector, groceries and household durables. There was a sector, groceries and household durables. There was a large sector, groceries and household durables. There was a large increase durables. There was a large increase on durables. There was a large increase on April durables. There was a large increase on April 2020 durables. There was a large increase on April 2020 levels durables. There was a large increase on April 2020 levels when durables. There was a large increase on April 2020 levels when the on April 2020 levels when the country on April 2020 levels when the country was on April 2020 levels when the country was in on April 2020 levels when the country was in lockdown, on April 2020 levels when the country was in lockdown, card country was in lockdown, card spending country was in lockdown, card spending in country was in lockdown, card spending in April country was in lockdown, card spending in April was country was in lockdown, card spending in April was also country was in lockdown, card spending in April was also up country was in lockdown, card spending in April was also up in spending in April was also up in 2019 spending in April was also up in 2019 rising spending in April was also up in 2019 rising by spending in April was also up in 2019 rising by 6%. spending in April was also up in 2019 rising by 6%. The spending in April was also up in 2019 rising by 6%. The durables 2019 rising by 6%. The durables industry 2019 rising by 6%. The durables industry saw 2019 rising by 6%. The durables industry saw the 2019 rising by 6%. The durables industry saw the largest 2019 rising by 6%. 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Mr considered for financial compensation? Mr Speaker, considered for financial compensation? Mr Speaker, again, considered for financial compensation? Mr Speaker, again, if compensation? Mr Speaker, again, if the compensation? Mr Speaker, again, if the member compensation? Mr Speaker, again, if the member wishes compensation? Mr Speaker, again, if the member wishes to compensation? Mr Speaker, again, if the member wishes to have compensation? 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We must stop children from are traumatic. We must stop children from being are traumatic. We must stop children from being in are traumatic. We must stop children from being in circumstances are traumatic. We must stop children from being in circumstances where from being in circumstances where they from being in circumstances where they are from being in circumstances where they are hurt from being in circumstances where they are hurt and from being in circumstances where they are hurt and abused. from being in circumstances where they are hurt and abused. The from being in circumstances where they are hurt and abused. The best they are hurt and abused. The best thing they are hurt and abused. The best thing we they are hurt and abused. The best thing we can they are hurt and abused. The best thing we can do they are hurt and abused. The best thing we can do is they are hurt and abused. The best thing we can do is start they are hurt and abused. 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Does her Government support the Hon Kelvin Government support the Hon Kelvin Davis Government support the Hon Kelvin Davis directing Government support the Hon Kelvin Davis directing Oranga Government support the Hon Kelvin Davis directing Oranga Tamariki Davis directing Oranga Tamariki preparing Davis directing Oranga Tamariki preparing to Davis directing Oranga Tamariki preparing to devolve Davis directing Oranga Tamariki preparing to devolve power Davis directing Oranga Tamariki preparing to devolve power and preparing to devolve power and resources preparing to devolve power and resources to preparing to devolve power and resources to a preparing to devolve power and resources to a new preparing to devolve power and resources to a new Maori resources to a new Maori transitional resources to a new Maori transitional authority? resources to a new Maori transitional authority? Mr resources to a new Maori transitional authority? Mr Speaker, transitional authority? Mr Speaker, again, transitional authority? Mr Speaker, again, I transitional authority? Mr Speaker, again, I come transitional authority? Mr Speaker, again, I come back transitional authority? Mr Speaker, again, I come back to transitional authority? Mr Speaker, again, I come back to everything again, I come back to everything that again, I come back to everything that I again, I come back to everything that I have again, I come back to everything that I have said again, I come back to everything that I have said - again, I come back to everything that I have said - if again, I come back to everything that I have said - if the again, I come back to everything that I have said - if the member that I have said - if the member thinks that I have said - if the member thinks that that I have said - if the member thinks that we that I have said - if the member thinks that we are that I have said - if the member thinks that we are doing that I have said - if the member thinks that we are doing well that I have said - if the member thinks that we are doing well at that I have said - if the member thinks that we are doing well at the thinks that we are doing well at the moment, thinks that we are doing well at the moment, she thinks that we are doing well at the moment, she has thinks that we are doing well at the moment, she has not thinks that we are doing well at the moment, she has not read thinks that we are doing well at the moment, she has not read any thinks that we are doing well at the moment, she has not read any of thinks that we are doing well at the moment, she has not read any of the moment, she has not read any of the statistics moment, she has not read any of the statistics about moment, she has not read any of the statistics about what's moment, she has not read any of the statistics about what's happening moment, she has not read any of the statistics about what's happening to statistics about what's happening to kids. statistics about what's happening to kids. 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Does she believe that it's acceptable for the Government to acceptable for the Government to remove acceptable for the Government to remove itself acceptable for the Government to remove itself from acceptable for the Government to remove itself from the acceptable for the Government to remove itself from the protection acceptable for the Government to remove itself from the protection of remove itself from the protection of all remove itself from the protection of all children remove itself from the protection of all children regardless remove itself from the protection of all children regardless of remove itself from the protection of all children regardless of <SPEAKS all children regardless of <SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY> all children regardless of <SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY> when all children regardless of <SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY> when a all children regardless of <SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY> when a New all children regardless of <SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY> when a New Zealand INDISTINCTLY> when a New Zealand child INDISTINCTLY> when a New Zealand child is INDISTINCTLY> when a New Zealand child is killed INDISTINCTLY> when a New Zealand child is killed by INDISTINCTLY> when a New Zealand child is killed by its INDISTINCTLY> when a New Zealand child is killed by its own INDISTINCTLY> when a New Zealand child is killed by its own family child is killed by its own family every child is killed by its own family every five child is killed by its own family every five weeks? child is killed by its own family every five weeks? Mr child is killed by its own family every five weeks? Mr Speaker, child is killed by its own family every five weeks? Mr Speaker, I every five weeks? Mr Speaker, I reject every five weeks? Mr Speaker, I reject the every five weeks? Mr Speaker, I reject the claim every five weeks? Mr Speaker, I reject the claim that every five weeks? Mr Speaker, I reject the claim that was every five weeks? Mr Speaker, I reject the claim that was made. every five weeks? Mr Speaker, I reject the claim that was made. The reject the claim that was made. The member reject the claim that was made. The member did reject the claim that was made. The member did not reject the claim that was made. The member did not listen reject the claim that was made. The member did not listen to reject the claim that was made. The member did not listen to my reject the claim that was made. 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What debate that we need to have as a nation. What is debate that we need to have as a nation. What is her debate that we need to have as a nation. What is her response debate that we need to have as a nation. What is her response to debate that we need to have as a nation. What is her response to the nation. What is her response to the draft nation. What is her response to the draft recommendations nation. What is her response to the draft recommendations of nation. What is her response to the draft recommendations of the nation. What is her response to the draft recommendations of the Dept nation. 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Mr domain still need to be resolved? Mr Speaker, domain still need to be resolved? Mr Speaker, again, domain still need to be resolved? Mr Speaker, again, if domain still need to be resolved? Mr Speaker, again, if the domain still need to be resolved? Mr Speaker, again, if the member domain still need to be resolved? 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Why can the Government fork out . Why can the Government fork out more . Why can the Government fork out more than . Why can the Government fork out more than $100 . Why can the Government fork out more than $100 million . Why can the Government fork out more than $100 million for . Why can the Government fork out more than $100 million for private more than $100 million for private media more than $100 million for private media organisations, more than $100 million for private media organisations, but more than $100 million for private media organisations, but has more than $100 million for private media organisations, but has to media organisations, but has to recommend media organisations, but has to recommend that media organisations, but has to recommend that teachers, media organisations, but has to recommend that teachers, nurses, recommend that teachers, nurses, police recommend that teachers, nurses, police and recommend that teachers, nurses, police and Defence recommend that teachers, nurses, police and Defence Force recommend that teachers, nurses, police and Defence Force get recommend that teachers, nurses, police and Defence Force get a recommend that teachers, nurses, police and Defence Force get a pay police and Defence Force get a pay freeze? police and Defence Force get a pay freeze? Mr police and Defence Force get a pay freeze? Mr Speaker, police and Defence Force get a pay freeze? Mr Speaker, again, police and Defence Force get a pay freeze? Mr Speaker, again, I police and Defence Force get a pay freeze? Mr Speaker, again, I reject freeze? Mr Speaker, again, I reject the freeze? Mr Speaker, again, I reject the second freeze? Mr Speaker, again, I reject the second part freeze? Mr Speaker, again, I reject the second part of freeze? Mr Speaker, again, I reject the second part of the freeze? Mr Speaker, again, I reject the second part of the member's the second part of the member's question. the second part of the member's question. And the second part of the member's question. And I the second part of the member's question. And I well the second part of the member's question. And I well recall the second part of the member's question. And I well recall in the second part of the member's question. And I well recall in the question. 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And I well recall in the last term the enormous pay increases last term the enormous pay increases we last term the enormous pay increases we gave last term the enormous pay increases we gave to last term the enormous pay increases we gave to teachers last term the enormous pay increases we gave to teachers and last term the enormous pay increases we gave to teachers and nurses we gave to teachers and nurses because we gave to teachers and nurses because the we gave to teachers and nurses because the previous we gave to teachers and nurses because the previous National because the previous National Government because the previous National Government had because the previous National Government had failed because the previous National Government had failed to because the previous National Government had failed to back because the previous National Government had failed to back them. Government had failed to back them. (INTERJECTIONS) (INTERJECTIONS) Question (INTERJECTIONS) Question No. (INTERJECTIONS) Question No. 6. (INTERJECTIONS) Question No. 6. Thank (INTERJECTIONS) Question No. 6. Thank you, (INTERJECTIONS) Question No. 6. Thank you, Mr Question No. 6. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Police: Police: What Police: What recent Police: What recent announcements What recent announcements has What recent announcements has she What recent announcements has she made What recent announcements has she made regarding has she made regarding combating has she made regarding combating organised has she made regarding combating organised crime? Thank Thank you, Thank you, Mr Thank you, Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Mr Thank you, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, Thank you, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, this Thank you, Mr Speaker. 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Mr Speaker, this morning alongside the Minister this morning alongside the Minister of this morning alongside the Minister of Justice, this morning alongside the Minister of Justice, I this morning alongside the Minister of Justice, I announced this morning alongside the Minister of Justice, I announced a this morning alongside the Minister of Justice, I announced a range this morning alongside the Minister of Justice, I announced a range of of Justice, I announced a range of new of Justice, I announced a range of new tools of Justice, I announced a range of new tools to of Justice, I announced a range of new tools to aid of Justice, I announced a range of new tools to aid police of Justice, I announced a range of new tools to aid police in of Justice, I announced a range of new tools to aid police in their new tools to aid police in their fight new tools to aid police in their fight against new tools to aid police in their fight against organised new tools to aid police in their fight against organised crime. new tools to aid police in their fight against organised crime. The fight against organised crime. The Government fight against organised crime. The Government will fight against organised crime. The Government will make fight against organised crime. The Government will make it fight against organised crime. The Government will make it illegal fight against organised crime. The Government will make it illegal for Government will make it illegal for high-risk Government will make it illegal for high-risk people Government will make it illegal for high-risk people to Government will make it illegal for high-risk people to own Government will make it illegal for high-risk people to own firearms Government will make it illegal for high-risk people to own firearms by high-risk people to own firearms by introducing high-risk people to own firearms by introducing the high-risk people to own firearms by introducing the Firearms introducing the Firearms Prohibition introducing the Firearms introducing the Firearms Prohibition Order. 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FPOs will protect the public from harm by prohibiting high-risk from harm by prohibiting high-risk people from harm by prohibiting high-risk people from from harm by prohibiting high-risk people from accessing, from harm by prohibiting high-risk people from accessing, being from harm by prohibiting high-risk people from accessing, being around people from accessing, being around or people from accessing, being around or using people from accessing, being around or using firearms. people from accessing, being around or using firearms. Breaching people from accessing, being around or using firearms. Breaching these or using firearms. Breaching these conditions or using firearms. Breaching these conditions of or using firearms. Breaching these conditions of a or using firearms. Breaching these conditions of a Firearms or using firearms. 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Alongside this, the criminal Alongside this, the criminal proceeds Alongside this, the criminal proceeds recovery Alongside this, the criminal proceeds recovery act Alongside this, the criminal proceeds recovery act will Alongside this, the criminal proceeds recovery act will be proceeds recovery act will be amended proceeds recovery act will be amended to proceeds recovery act will be amended to introduce proceeds recovery act will be amended to introduce a proceeds recovery act will be amended to introduce a new proceeds recovery act will be amended to introduce a new power amended to introduce a new power enabling amended to introduce a new power enabling seizure amended to introduce a new power enabling seizure of amended to introduce a new power enabling seizure of assets amended to introduce a new power enabling seizure of assets of amended to introduce a new power enabling seizure of assets of those enabling seizure of assets of those associated enabling seizure of assets of those associated with enabling seizure of assets of those associated with organised enabling seizure of assets of those associated with organised crime associated with organised crime where associated with organised crime where the associated with organised crime where the persons associated with organised crime where the persons known associated with organised crime where the persons known legitimate where the persons known legitimate income where the persons known legitimate income is where the persons known legitimate income is likely where the persons known legitimate income is likely to where the persons known legitimate income is likely to have where the persons known legitimate income is likely to have been income is likely to have been insufficient income is likely to have been insufficient to income is likely to have been insufficient to acquire income is likely to have been insufficient to acquire the income is likely to have been insufficient to acquire the asset. insufficient to acquire the asset. 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Who will be targeted (INTERJECTIONS) . Who will be targeted by (INTERJECTIONS) . Who will be targeted by the . Who will be targeted by the Government's . Who will be targeted by the Government's Firearms . Who will be targeted by the Government's Firearms Prohibition Government's Firearms Prohibition Orders Government's Firearms Prohibition Orders regime? Government's Firearms Prohibition Orders regime? Order. 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High-risk people include those who commit serious firearms those who commit serious firearms offences, those who commit serious firearms offences, serious those who commit serious firearms offences, serious violence those who commit serious firearms offences, serious violence offences offences, serious violence offences and offences, serious violence offences and offence offences, serious violence offences and offence of offences, serious violence offences and offence of participating offences, serious violence offences and offence of participating in and offence of participating in organised and offence of participating in organised crime and offence of participating in organised crime criminal and offence of participating in organised crime criminal group and offence of participating in organised crime criminal group - organised crime criminal group - sorry, organised crime criminal group - sorry, an organised crime criminal group - sorry, an organised organised crime criminal group - sorry, an organised criminal organised crime criminal group - sorry, an organised criminal group, sorry, an organised criminal group, and sorry, an organised criminal group, and terrorism-related sorry, an organised criminal group, and terrorism-related offences. sorry, an organised criminal group, and terrorism-related offences. How and terrorism-related offences. How will and terrorism-related offences. How will amendments and terrorism-related offences. How will amendments made and terrorism-related offences. How will amendments made to and terrorism-related offences. How will amendments made to the and terrorism-related offences. How will amendments made to the Criminal will amendments made to the Criminal Proceeds will amendments made to the Criminal Proceeds Recovery will amendments made to the Criminal Proceeds Recovery Act will amendments made to the Criminal Proceeds Recovery Act further Proceeds Recovery Act further disrupt Proceeds Recovery Act further disrupt organised Proceeds Recovery Act further disrupt organised crime? Proceeds Recovery Act further disrupt organised crime? Mr Proceeds Recovery Act further disrupt organised crime? Mr Speaker, disrupt organised crime? Mr Speaker, police disrupt organised crime? Mr Speaker, police are disrupt organised crime? Mr Speaker, police are hitting disrupt organised crime? Mr Speaker, police are hitting gangs disrupt organised crime? Mr Speaker, police are hitting gangs where disrupt organised crime? Mr Speaker, police are hitting gangs where they police are hitting gangs where they hurt police are hitting gangs where they hurt - police are hitting gangs where they hurt - their police are hitting gangs where they hurt - their pockets. police are hitting gangs where they hurt - their pockets. The police are hitting gangs where they hurt - their pockets. The new hurt - their pockets. The new organised hurt - their pockets. The new organised crime hurt - their pockets. The new organised crime power hurt - their pockets. The new organised crime power will hurt - their pockets. The new organised crime power will help organised crime power will help prevent organised crime power will help prevent those organised crime power will help prevent those involved organised crime power will help prevent those involved in organised crime power will help prevent those involved in organised prevent those involved in organised crime prevent those involved in organised crime from prevent those involved in organised crime from benefiting prevent those involved in organised crime from benefiting from prevent those involved in organised crime from benefiting from crime prevent those involved in organised crime from benefiting from crime and crime from benefiting from crime and remove crime from benefiting from crime and remove the crime from benefiting from crime and remove the primary crime from benefiting from crime and remove the primary reason crime from benefiting from crime and remove the primary reason for remove the primary reason for organised remove the primary reason for organised crime remove the primary reason for organised crime to remove the primary reason for organised crime to exist remove the primary reason for organised crime to exist - remove the primary reason for organised crime to exist - prompt. organised crime to exist - prompt. 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Rachel generally consider desirable. Rachel Brooking. generally consider desirable. Rachel Brooking. Thank generally consider desirable. Rachel Brooking. Thank you, generally consider desirable. Rachel Brooking. Thank you, Mr generally consider desirable. Rachel Brooking. Thank you, Mr Speaker. generally consider desirable. Rachel Brooking. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My Brooking. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My question Brooking. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My question is Brooking. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My question is to Brooking. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My question is to the Brooking. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My question is to the Minister Brooking. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My question is to the Minister of question is to the Minister of Tourism: What What is What is the What is the Government What is the Government doing What is the Government doing to What is the Government doing to support What is the Government doing to support the What is the Government doing to support the recovery to support the recovery of to support the recovery of tourism to support the recovery of tourism communities? Thank Thank you, Thank you, Mr Thank you, Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Mr Thank you, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, Thank you, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, last Thank you, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, last week Thank you, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, last week I Thank you, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, last week I announced Thank you, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, last week I announced a Thank you, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, last week I announced a support last week I announced a support recovery last week I announced a support recovery and last week I announced a support recovery and reset last week I announced a support recovery and reset plan last week I announced a support recovery and reset plan for last week I announced a support recovery and reset plan for the recovery and reset plan for the tourism recovery and reset plan for the tourism communities recovery and reset plan for the tourism communities to recovery and reset plan for the tourism communities to support recovery and reset plan for the tourism communities to support the tourism communities to support the social tourism communities to support the social and tourism communities to support the social and economic tourism communities to support the social and economic recovery tourism communities to support the social and economic recovery of social and economic recovery of tourism social and economic recovery of tourism communities social and economic recovery of tourism communities after social and economic recovery of tourism communities after the tourism communities after the impacts tourism communities after the impacts of tourism communities after the impacts of COVID-19 tourism communities after the impacts of COVID-19 and tourism communities after the impacts of COVID-19 and rebuild impacts of COVID-19 and rebuild tourism impacts of COVID-19 and rebuild tourism on impacts of COVID-19 and rebuild tourism on a impacts of COVID-19 and rebuild tourism on a more impacts of COVID-19 and rebuild tourism on a more sustainable tourism on a more sustainable foundations. tourism on a more sustainable foundations. There tourism on a more sustainable foundations. There were tourism on a more sustainable foundations. There were 12 tourism on a more sustainable foundations. There were 12 key foundations. There were 12 key points foundations. There were 12 key points in foundations. There were 12 key points in the foundations. There were 12 key points in the tourism foundations. There were 12 key points in the tourism community's points in the tourism community's plan. points in the tourism community's plan. Half points in the tourism community's plan. Half are points in the tourism community's plan. Half are focused points in the tourism community's plan. Half are focused on points in the tourism community's plan. Half are focused on the points in the tourism community's plan. Half are focused on the most plan. Half are focused on the most vulnerable plan. Half are focused on the most vulnerable south plan. Half are focused on the most vulnerable south island plan. 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Support for the six are nationwide initiatives. Support for the five six are nationwide initiatives. Support for the five south six are nationwide initiatives. 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Three, response to COVID-19, 5,000 per business. Three, grants response to COVID-19, 5,000 per business. Three, grants to response to COVID-19, 5,000 per business. Three, grants to help business. Three, grants to help businesses business. Three, grants to help businesses to business. Three, grants to help businesses to implement business. Three, grants to help businesses to implement these business. Three, grants to help businesses to implement these plans businesses to implement these plans and businesses to implement these plans and advice. businesses to implement these plans and advice. That's businesses to implement these plans and advice. That's 5,000 businesses to implement these plans and advice. That's 5,000 per and advice. That's 5,000 per business. and advice. That's 5,000 per business. Four and advice. That's 5,000 per business. Four - and advice. That's 5,000 per business. Four - 49 and advice. That's 5,000 per business. Four - 49 million and advice. That's 5,000 per business. Four - 49 million kick business. Four - 49 million kick start business. Four - 49 million kick start funds business. Four - 49 million kick start funds so business. Four - 49 million kick start funds so businesses business. Four - 49 million kick start funds so businesses that business. 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Supplementary. sustainable and high quality visitor experience. Supplementary. What sustainable and high quality visitor experience. Supplementary. What are experience. Supplementary. What are the experience. Supplementary. What are the nationwide experience. Supplementary. What are the nationwide initiatives experience. Supplementary. What are the nationwide initiatives in experience. Supplementary. What are the nationwide initiatives in the the nationwide initiatives in the recovery the nationwide initiatives in the recovery plan? the nationwide initiatives in the recovery plan? Mr the nationwide initiatives in the recovery plan? Mr Speaker, the nationwide initiatives in the recovery plan? Mr Speaker, this recovery plan? Mr Speaker, this tourism recovery plan? Mr Speaker, this tourism community's recovery plan? Mr Speaker, this tourism community's plan recovery plan? Mr Speaker, this tourism community's plan also recovery plan? Mr Speaker, this tourism community's plan also offers tourism community's plan also offers a tourism community's plan also offers a wild tourism community's plan also offers a wild support tourism community's plan also offers a wild support for tourism community's plan also offers a wild support for the tourism community's plan also offers a wild support for the industry tourism community's plan also offers a wild support for the industry as tourism community's plan also offers a wild support for the industry as a a wild support for the industry as a whole. a wild support for the industry as a whole. It a wild support for the industry as a whole. It is a wild support for the industry as a whole. It is an a wild support for the industry as a whole. It is an opportunity a wild support for the industry as a whole. It is an opportunity for whole. It is an opportunity for Government, whole. It is an opportunity for Government, councils, whole. It is an opportunity for Government, councils, iwi, Government, councils, iwi, businesses Government, councils, iwi, businesses and Government, councils, iwi, businesses and tourism Government, councils, iwi, businesses and tourism operators Government, councils, iwi, businesses and tourism operators and businesses and tourism operators and communities businesses and tourism operators and communities to businesses and tourism operators and communities to work businesses and tourism operators and communities to work together businesses and tourism operators and communities to work together and communities to work together and reset communities to work together and reset the communities to work together and reset the industry communities to work together and reset the industry on communities to work together and reset the industry on a communities to work together and reset the industry on a more reset the industry on a more sustainable reset the industry on a more sustainable model reset the industry on a more sustainable model for reset the industry on a more sustainable model for the reset the industry on a more sustainable model for the future. sustainable model for the future. 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Two - 14 million to existing loans to inbound tour existing loans to inbound tour operators existing loans to inbound tour operators from existing loans to inbound tour operators from the existing loans to inbound tour operators from the 2020 existing loans to inbound tour operators from the 2020 tourism operators from the 2020 tourism recovery operators from the 2020 tourism recovery package operators from the 2020 tourism recovery package will operators from the 2020 tourism recovery package will be operators from the 2020 tourism recovery package will be converted recovery package will be converted recovery recovery package will be converted to grants. That recovery package will be converted to grants. That means recovery package will be converted to grants. That means 26ITOs recovery package will be converted to grants. That means 26ITOs will to grants. That means 26ITOs will receive to grants. That means 26ITOs will receive up to grants. That means 26ITOs will receive up to to grants. That means 26ITOs will receive up to $5 to grants. That means 26ITOs will receive up to $5 hub,000 to grants. That means 26ITOs will receive up to $5 hub,000 each. to grants. That means 26ITOs will receive up to $5 hub,000 each. Three receive up to $5 hub,000 each. Three - receive up to $5 hub,000 each. Three - further receive up to $5 hub,000 each. Three - further investment receive up to $5 hub,000 each. Three - further investment in receive up to $5 hub,000 each. Three - further investment in Maori - further investment in Maori tourism - further investment in Maori tourism businesses. - further investment in Maori tourism businesses. The - further investment in Maori tourism businesses. The details - further investment in Maori tourism businesses. The details will tourism businesses. The details will be tourism businesses. The details will be announced tourism businesses. The details will be announced by tourism businesses. The details will be announced by the tourism businesses. The details will be announced by the Minister tourism businesses. The details will be announced by the Minister for be announced by the Minister for Maori be announced by the Minister for Maori Development be announced by the Minister for Maori Development later be announced by the Minister for Maori Development later this be announced by the Minister for Maori Development later this month. Maori Development later this month. Four Maori Development later this month. Four - Maori Development later this month. Four - $10 Maori Development later this month. Four - $10 million Maori Development later this month. Four - $10 million for Maori Development later this month. Four - $10 million for the Maori Development later this month. Four - $10 million for the Dept Maori Development later this month. 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And finally - $10 million for the tourism infrastructure fund. 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It will build on recent work by the Parliamentary chief work by the Parliamentary chief commission work by the Parliamentary chief commission for work by the Parliamentary chief commission for the work by the Parliamentary chief commission for the Environment, commission for the Environment, tourism commission for the Environment, tourism futures commission for the Environment, tourism futures task commission for the Environment, tourism futures task force commission for the Environment, tourism futures task force and tourism futures task force and climate tourism futures task force and climate change tourism futures task force and climate change Commission tourism futures task force and climate change Commission among climate change Commission among others climate change Commission among others to climate change Commission among others to lift climate change Commission among others to lift industry climate change Commission among others to lift industry standards others to lift industry standards and others to lift industry standards and transform others to lift industry standards and transform to others to lift industry standards and transform to a others to lift industry standards and transform to a more others to lift industry standards and transform to a more sustainable and transform to a more sustainable model. and transform to a more sustainable model. What and transform to a more sustainable model. What feedback and transform to a more sustainable model. What feedback has and transform to a more sustainable model. What feedback has he and transform to a more sustainable model. What feedback has he received model. What feedback has he received on model. What feedback has he received on the model. What feedback has he received on the tourism model. What feedback has he received on the tourism community's model. What feedback has he received on the tourism community's plan? on the tourism community's plan? Well, on the tourism community's plan? Well, Mr on the tourism community's plan? Well, Mr Speaker, on the tourism community's plan? Well, Mr Speaker, a on the tourism community's plan? Well, Mr Speaker, a lot on the tourism community's plan? Well, Mr Speaker, a lot of on the tourism community's plan? Well, Mr Speaker, a lot of positive Well, Mr Speaker, a lot of positive feedback. Well, Mr Speaker, a lot of positive feedback. Queenstown Well, Mr Speaker, a lot of positive feedback. Queenstown mayor Well, Mr Speaker, a lot of positive feedback. Queenstown mayor said Well, Mr Speaker, a lot of positive feedback. Queenstown mayor said the feedback. Queenstown mayor said the announcement feedback. Queenstown mayor said the announcement would feedback. Queenstown mayor said the announcement would quote, feedback. 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Across-the-board percentage increases, which we have percentage increases, which we have seen percentage increases, which we have seen in percentage increases, which we have seen in the percentage increases, which we have seen in the last percentage increases, which we have seen in the last three percentage increases, which we have seen in the last three years, percentage increases, which we have seen in the last three years, has seen in the last three years, has increased seen in the last three years, has increased the seen in the last three years, has increased the gap seen in the last three years, has increased the gap between seen in the last three years, has increased the gap between the seen in the last three years, has increased the gap between the lowest increased the gap between the lowest paid increased the gap between the lowest paid and increased the gap between the lowest paid and the increased the gap between the lowest paid and the highest increased the gap between the lowest paid and the highest paid increased the gap between the lowest paid and the highest paid and increased the gap between the lowest paid and the highest paid and that paid and the highest paid and that is paid and the highest paid and that is unsustainable. paid and the highest paid and that is unsustainable. Supplementary. paid and the highest paid and that is unsustainable. Supplementary. Why is unsustainable. Supplementary. Why does is unsustainable. Supplementary. Why does he is unsustainable. Supplementary. Why does he keep is unsustainable. Supplementary. Why does he keep playing is unsustainable. Supplementary. Why does he keep playing off is unsustainable. Supplementary. Why does he keep playing off low is unsustainable. Supplementary. Why does he keep playing off low income does he keep playing off low income workers does he keep playing off low income workers who does he keep playing off low income workers who earn does he keep playing off low income workers who earn under does he keep playing off low income workers who earn under $60,000 workers who earn under $60,000 against workers who earn under $60,000 against other workers who earn under $60,000 against other essential workers who earn under $60,000 against other essential workers workers who earn under $60,000 against other essential workers like against other essential workers like nurses, against other essential workers like nurses, teachers against other essential workers like nurses, teachers or against other essential workers like nurses, teachers or border against other essential workers like nurses, teachers or border workers nurses, teachers or border workers who nurses, teachers or border workers who have nurses, teachers or border workers who have also nurses, teachers or border workers who have also been nurses, teachers or border workers who have also been working nurses, teachers or border workers who have also been working their who have also been working their guts who have also been working their guts out who have also been working their guts out for who have also been working their guts out for relatively who have also been working their guts out for relatively modest guts out for relatively modest incomes? guts out for relatively modest incomes? Mr guts out for relatively modest incomes? Mr Speaker, guts out for relatively modest incomes? Mr Speaker, again, guts out for relatively modest incomes? Mr Speaker, again, I guts out for relatively modest incomes? Mr Speaker, again, I reject incomes? Mr Speaker, again, I reject the incomes? Mr Speaker, again, I reject the premise incomes? Mr Speaker, again, I reject the premise of incomes? Mr Speaker, again, I reject the premise of the incomes? Mr Speaker, again, I reject the premise of the member's the premise of the member's question. the premise of the member's question. I the premise of the member's question. I don't the premise of the member's question. I don't believe the premise of the member's question. I don't believe that the premise of the member's question. I don't believe that that question. I don't believe that that is question. I don't believe that that is what question. I don't believe that that is what the question. I don't believe that that is what the Government question. I don't believe that that is what the Government is question. I don't believe that that is what the Government is doing. is what the Government is doing. What is what the Government is doing. What is is what the Government is doing. What is the is what the Government is doing. What is the Government is what the Government is doing. What is the Government is is what the Government is doing. What is the Government is saying is what the Government is doing. What is the Government is saying is What is the Government is saying is if What is the Government is saying is if we What is the Government is saying is if we continue What is the Government is saying is if we continue to What is the Government is saying is if we continue to provide if we continue to provide across-the-board if we continue to provide across-the-board pay if we continue to provide across-the-board pay increases if we continue to provide across-the-board pay increases that across-the-board pay increases that see across-the-board pay increases that see the across-the-board pay increases that see the majority across-the-board pay increases that see the majority of across-the-board pay increases that see the majority of the across-the-board pay increases that see the majority of the money across-the-board pay increases that see the majority of the money going see the majority of the money going to see the majority of the money going to people see the majority of the money going to people on see the majority of the money going to people on the see the majority of the money going to people on the highest see the majority of the money going to people on the highest salaries, to people on the highest salaries, then to people on the highest salaries, then inequality to people on the highest salaries, then inequality in to people on the highest salaries, then inequality in the to people on the highest salaries, then inequality in the - to people on the highest salaries, then inequality in the - in to people on the highest salaries, then inequality in the - in the then inequality in the - in the public then inequality in the - in the public sector then inequality in the - in the public sector will then inequality in the - in the public sector will continue then inequality in the - in the public sector will continue to public sector will continue to increase public sector will continue to increase and public sector will continue to increase and that public sector will continue to increase and that is public sector will continue to increase and that is not public sector will continue to increase and that is not something increase and that is not something that increase and that is not something that this increase and that is not something that this Government increase and that is not something that this Government wants increase and that is not something that this Government wants to increase and that is not something that this Government wants to see that this Government wants to see continue. that this Government wants to see continue. Supplementary. that this Government wants to see continue. Supplementary. Is that this Government wants to see continue. Supplementary. Is he that this Government wants to see continue. Supplementary. Is he aware continue. Supplementary. Is he aware that continue. Supplementary. Is he aware that in continue. Supplementary. Is he aware that in May continue. Supplementary. Is he aware that in May 2018, continue. Supplementary. Is he aware that in May 2018, 70% continue. Supplementary. Is he aware that in May 2018, 70% of continue. Supplementary. Is he aware that in May 2018, 70% of nurses continue. Supplementary. Is he aware that in May 2018, 70% of nurses and that in May 2018, 70% of nurses and midwives that in May 2018, 70% of nurses and midwives were that in May 2018, 70% of nurses and midwives were already that in May 2018, 70% of nurses and midwives were already employed that in May 2018, 70% of nurses and midwives were already employed on midwives were already employed on the midwives were already employed on the top midwives were already employed on the top pay midwives were already employed on the top pay band midwives were already employed on the top pay band with midwives were already employed on the top pay band with no midwives were already employed on the top pay band with no further the top pay band with no further progression the top pay band with no further progression possible the top pay band with no further progression possible as the top pay band with no further progression possible as was the top pay band with no further progression possible as was stated progression possible as was stated in progression possible as was stated in the progression possible as was stated in the 2018NZNO progression possible as was stated in the 2018NZNO submission progression possible as was stated in the 2018NZNO submission to progression possible as was stated in the 2018NZNO submission to the in the 2018NZNO submission to the independent in the 2018NZNO submission to the independent panel in the 2018NZNO submission to the independent panel to in the 2018NZNO submission to the independent panel to resolve in the 2018NZNO submission to the independent panel to resolve the in the 2018NZNO submission to the independent panel to resolve the DHB independent panel to resolve the DHB meca independent panel to resolve the DHB meca negotiations. independent panel to resolve the DHB meca negotiations. Our independent panel to resolve the DHB meca negotiations. Our awareness independent panel to resolve the DHB meca negotiations. Our awareness of meca negotiations. Our awareness of the meca negotiations. Our awareness of the fact meca negotiations. Our awareness of the fact that meca negotiations. Our awareness of the fact that many meca negotiations. Our awareness of the fact that many nurses meca negotiations. Our awareness of the fact that many nurses and the fact that many nurses and teaches the fact that many nurses and teaches sit the fact that many nurses and teaches sit at the fact that many nurses and teaches sit at the the fact that many nurses and teaches sit at the top the fact that many nurses and teaches sit at the top of the fact that many nurses and teaches sit at the top of the teaches sit at the top of the current teaches sit at the top of the current pay teaches sit at the top of the current pay scale, teaches sit at the top of the current pay scale, this teaches sit at the top of the current pay scale, this Government current pay scale, this Government has current pay scale, this Government has injected current pay scale, this Government has injected an current pay scale, this Government has injected an extra current pay scale, this Government has injected an extra $4.2 current pay scale, this Government has injected an extra $4.2 billion has injected an extra $4.2 billion into has injected an extra $4.2 billion into pay has injected an extra $4.2 billion into pay settlements has injected an extra $4.2 billion into pay settlements with has injected an extra $4.2 billion into pay settlements with those into pay settlements with those workforces. into pay settlements with those workforces. What into pay settlements with those workforces. What the into pay settlements with those workforces. What the Government into pay settlements with those workforces. What the Government is workforces. What the Government is saying workforces. What the Government is saying is workforces. What the Government is saying is that workforces. What the Government is saying is that it's workforces. What the Government is saying is that it's time workforces. What the Government is saying is that it's time for workforces. What the Government is saying is that it's time for those saying is that it's time for those at saying is that it's time for those at the saying is that it's time for those at the bottom saying is that it's time for those at the bottom end saying is that it's time for those at the bottom end of saying is that it's time for those at the bottom end of the saying is that it's time for those at the bottom end of the salary at the bottom end of the salary scale, at the bottom end of the salary scale, which at the bottom end of the salary scale, which are at the bottom end of the salary scale, which are not at the bottom end of the salary scale, which are not reflected at the bottom end of the salary scale, which are not reflected in scale, which are not reflected in the scale, which are not reflected in the settlements scale, which are not reflected in the settlements reached scale, which are not reflected in the settlements reached with scale, which are not reflected in the settlements reached with those the settlements reached with those workforces, the settlements reached with those workforces, it's the settlements reached with those workforces, it's time the settlements reached with those workforces, it's time for the settlements reached with those workforces, it's time for them the settlements reached with those workforces, it's time for them to workforces, it's time for them to get workforces, it's time for them to get a workforces, it's time for them to get a bit workforces, it's time for them to get a bit of workforces, it's time for them to get a bit of a workforces, it's time for them to get a bit of a break. workforces, it's time for them to get a bit of a break. Will workforces, it's time for them to get a bit of a break. Will he workforces, it's time for them to get a bit of a break. Will he revise get a bit of a break. Will he revise the get a bit of a break. Will he revise the recently-released get a bit of a break. Will he revise the recently-released public get a bit of a break. Will he revise the recently-released public service the recently-released public service pay the recently-released public service pay guide the recently-released public service pay guide document the recently-released public service pay guide document so the recently-released public service pay guide document so that the recently-released public service pay guide document so that those pay guide document so that those earning pay guide document so that those earning over pay guide document so that those earning over $60,000 pay guide document so that those earning over $60,000 can pay guide document so that those earning over $60,000 can also earning over $60,000 can also bargain earning over $60,000 can also bargain in earning over $60,000 can also bargain in good earning over $60,000 can also bargain in good faith earning over $60,000 can also bargain in good faith for earning over $60,000 can also bargain in good faith for the earning over $60,000 can also bargain in good faith for the pay bargain in good faith for the pay increases bargain in good faith for the pay increases they bargain in good faith for the pay increases they surely bargain in good faith for the pay increases they surely deserve bargain in good faith for the pay increases they surely deserve after increases they surely deserve after a increases they surely deserve after a really increases they surely deserve after a really tough increases they surely deserve after a really tough year? increases they surely deserve after a really tough year? Mr increases they surely deserve after a really tough year? Mr Speaker, a really tough year? Mr Speaker, nothing a really tough year? Mr Speaker, nothing in a really tough year? Mr Speaker, nothing in the a really tough year? Mr Speaker, nothing in the guidance a really tough year? Mr Speaker, nothing in the guidance stops nothing in the guidance stops bargaining nothing in the guidance stops bargaining in nothing in the guidance stops bargaining in good nothing in the guidance stops bargaining in good faith. nothing in the guidance stops bargaining in good faith. Question bargaining in good faith. Question No. bargaining in good faith. Question No. 10. bargaining in good faith. Question No. 10. Kia bargaining in good faith. Question No. 10. Kia ora, bargaining in good faith. Question No. 10. Kia ora, Mr bargaining in good faith. Question No. 10. Kia ora, Mr Speaker. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Associate My question is to the Associate Minister My question is to the Associate Minister of My question is to the Associate Minister of Health: Minister of Health: What Minister of Health: What recent Minister of Health: What recent announcements Minister of Health: What recent announcements has What recent announcements has she What recent announcements has she made What recent announcements has she made about What recent announcements has she made about improving What recent announcements has she made about improving cancer she made about improving cancer screening she made about improving cancer screening programmes she made about improving cancer screening programmes for she made about improving cancer screening programmes for women? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, Budget Mr Speaker, Budget 2021 Mr Speaker, Budget 2021 focuses Mr Speaker, Budget 2021 focuses on Mr Speaker, Budget 2021 focuses on securing Mr Speaker, Budget 2021 focuses on securing our Mr Speaker, Budget 2021 focuses on securing our recovery Mr Speaker, Budget 2021 focuses on securing our recovery while Mr Speaker, Budget 2021 focuses on securing our recovery while making securing our recovery while making investments securing our recovery while making investments that securing our recovery while making investments that improve securing our recovery while making investments that improve the securing our recovery while making investments that improve the lives investments that improve the lives of investments that improve the lives of New investments that improve the lives of New Zealanders. investments that improve the lives of New Zealanders. This investments that improve the lives of New Zealanders. This year's of New Zealanders. This year's Budget of New Zealanders. This year's Budget will of New Zealanders. This year's Budget will deliver of New Zealanders. This year's Budget will deliver a of New Zealanders. This year's Budget will deliver a better Budget will deliver a better cervical Budget will deliver a better cervical screening Budget will deliver a better cervical screening test Budget will deliver a better cervical screening test and Budget will deliver a better cervical screening test and a Budget will deliver a better cervical screening test and a major cervical screening test and a major upgrade cervical screening test and a major upgrade of cervical screening test and a major upgrade of the cervical screening test and a major upgrade of the breast cervical screening test and a major upgrade of the breast cancer upgrade of the breast cancer screening upgrade of the breast cancer screening system upgrade of the breast cancer screening system that upgrade of the breast cancer screening system that will upgrade of the breast cancer screening system that will save screening system that will save lives. screening system that will save lives. <INTERRUPTION> lives. <INTERRUPTION> These lives. <INTERRUPTION> These initiatives lives. <INTERRUPTION> These initiatives built lives. <INTERRUPTION> These initiatives built on lives. <INTERRUPTION> These initiatives built on our lives. <INTERRUPTION> These initiatives built on our last These initiatives built on our last three These initiatives built on our last three budgets These initiatives built on our last three budgets which These initiatives built on our last three budgets which we These initiatives built on our last three budgets which we made three budgets which we made significant three budgets which we made significant investments three budgets which we made significant investments in three budgets which we made significant investments in health significant investments in health including significant investments in health including the significant investments in health including the delivery significant investments in health including the delivery of significant investments in health including the delivery of the including the delivery of the biggest including the delivery of the biggest funding including the delivery of the biggest funding booth including the delivery of the biggest funding booth to including the delivery of the biggest funding booth to maternity biggest funding booth to maternity care biggest funding booth to maternity care in biggest funding booth to maternity care in a biggest funding booth to maternity care in a decade. biggest funding booth to maternity care in a decade. 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Modelling predicts that the move to HPV screening will the move to HPV screening will prevent the move to HPV screening will prevent about the move to HPV screening will prevent about 400 the move to HPV screening will prevent about 400 additional prevent about 400 additional cervical prevent about 400 additional cervical cancers prevent about 400 additional cervical cancers over prevent about 400 additional cervical cancers over 17 prevent about 400 additional cervical cancers over 17 years prevent about 400 additional cervical cancers over 17 years and cervical cancers over 17 years and will cervical cancers over 17 years and will save cervical cancers over 17 years and will save about cervical cancers over 17 years and will save about 138 cervical cancers over 17 years and will save about 138 additional will save about 138 additional lives. will save about 138 additional lives. Around will save about 138 additional lives. Around a will save about 138 additional lives. 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The outcomes for our hard-to-reach communities. The existing outcomes for our hard-to-reach communities. The existing breast communities. The existing breast cancer communities. The existing breast cancer screening communities. The existing breast cancer screening programme communities. 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Question currently be part of the programme. Question No. currently be part of the programme. Question No. 11. currently be part of the programme. Question No. 11. Thank currently be part of the programme. Question No. 11. Thank you, currently be part of the programme. Question No. 11. Thank you, Mr Question No. 11. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for the My question is to the Minister for the Public My question is to the Minister for the Public Service: the Public Service: Does the Public Service: Does he the Public Service: Does he stand the Public Service: Does he stand by the Public Service: Does he stand by all the Public Service: Does he stand by all of the Public Service: Does he stand by all of his Does he stand by all of his statements Does he stand by all of his statements and Does he stand by all of his statements and actions Does he stand by all of his statements and actions in Does he stand by all of his statements and actions in relation statements and actions in relation to statements and actions in relation to public statements and actions in relation to public sector statements and actions in relation to public sector pay? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, in Mr Speaker, in general, Mr Speaker, in general, yes. Mr Speaker, in general, yes. However, Mr Speaker, in general, yes. However, I Mr Speaker, in general, yes. However, I do Mr Speaker, in general, yes. However, I do regret Mr Speaker, in general, yes. However, I do regret the Mr Speaker, in general, yes. However, I do regret the details Mr Speaker, in general, yes. However, I do regret the details of However, I do regret the details of the However, I do regret the details of the new However, I do regret the details of the new pay However, I do regret the details of the new pay guidance However, I do regret the details of the new pay guidance for However, I do regret the details of the new pay guidance for public the new pay guidance for public service the new pay guidance for public service agencies the new pay guidance for public service agencies has the new pay guidance for public service agencies has been service agencies has been inaccurately service agencies has been inaccurately characterised service agencies has been inaccurately characterised as service agencies has been inaccurately characterised as a service agencies has been inaccurately characterised as a pay inaccurately characterised as a pay freeze. inaccurately characterised as a pay freeze. It inaccurately characterised as a pay freeze. It is inaccurately characterised as a pay freeze. It is not. inaccurately characterised as a pay freeze. It is not. (INTERJECTIONS) freeze. It is not. (INTERJECTIONS) To freeze. It is not. (INTERJECTIONS) To the freeze. It is not. (INTERJECTIONS) To the Minister freeze. It is not. (INTERJECTIONS) To the Minister - freeze. It is not. (INTERJECTIONS) To the Minister - will freeze. It is not. (INTERJECTIONS) To the Minister - will he freeze. It is not. (INTERJECTIONS) To the Minister - will he consider To the Minister - will he consider backing To the Minister - will he consider backing down To the Minister - will he consider backing down and To the Minister - will he consider backing down and changing To the Minister - will he consider backing down and changing or backing down and changing or amending backing down and changing or amending the backing down and changing or amending the decision backing down and changing or amending the decision in backing down and changing or amending the decision in relation backing down and changing or amending the decision in relation to amending the decision in relation to public amending the decision in relation to public sector amending the decision in relation to public sector pay amending the decision in relation to public sector pay restraints? amending the decision in relation to public sector pay restraints? Mr public sector pay restraints? Mr Speaker, public sector pay restraints? Mr Speaker, the public sector pay restraints? Mr Speaker, the member public sector pay restraints? Mr Speaker, the member clearly public sector pay restraints? Mr Speaker, the member clearly wasn't Speaker, the member clearly wasn't listening Speaker, the member clearly wasn't listening to Speaker, the member clearly wasn't listening to the Speaker, the member clearly wasn't listening to the answers Speaker, the member clearly wasn't listening to the answers I Speaker, the member clearly wasn't listening to the answers I already listening to the answers I already gave listening to the answers I already gave to listening to the answers I already gave to the listening to the answers I already gave to the - listening to the answers I already gave to the - to listening to the answers I already gave to the - to my listening to the answers I already gave to the - to my colleague listening to the answers I already gave to the - to my colleague from gave to the - to my colleague from the gave to the - to my colleague from the Green gave to the - to my colleague from the Green Party. gave to the - to my colleague from the Green Party. No. gave to the - to my colleague from the Green Party. No. To gave to the - to my colleague from the Green Party. No. To the gave to the - to my colleague from the Green Party. No. To the Minister the Green Party. No. To the Minister - the Green Party. No. To the Minister - why the Green Party. No. To the Minister - why not? the Green Party. No. To the Minister - why not? Mr the Green Party. No. To the Minister - why not? Mr Speaker, the Green Party. No. To the Minister - why not? Mr Speaker, because the Green Party. No. To the Minister - why not? Mr Speaker, because this - why not? Mr Speaker, because this Government - why not? Mr Speaker, because this Government is - why not? Mr Speaker, because this Government is unashamedly - why not? Mr Speaker, because this Government is unashamedly wanting - why not? Mr Speaker, because this Government is unashamedly wanting to Government is unashamedly wanting to ensure Government is unashamedly wanting to ensure that Government is unashamedly wanting to ensure that pay Government is unashamedly wanting to ensure that pay increases Government is unashamedly wanting to ensure that pay increases are ensure that pay increases are targeted ensure that pay increases are targeted at ensure that pay increases are targeted at those ensure that pay increases are targeted at those on ensure that pay increases are targeted at those on the ensure that pay increases are targeted at those on the lowest targeted at those on the lowest incomes. targeted at those on the lowest incomes. Does targeted at those on the lowest incomes. Does the targeted at those on the lowest incomes. Does the Minister targeted at those on the lowest incomes. Does the Minister think incomes. Does the Minister think it's incomes. Does the Minister think it's fair incomes. Does the Minister think it's fair to incomes. Does the Minister think it's fair to restrain incomes. Does the Minister think it's fair to restrain for incomes. Does the Minister think it's fair to restrain for three it's fair to restrain for three years it's fair to restrain for three years the it's fair to restrain for three years the pay it's fair to restrain for three years the pay of it's fair to restrain for three years the pay of a it's fair to restrain for three years the pay of a teacher it's fair to restrain for three years the pay of a teacher or it's fair to restrain for three years the pay of a teacher or nurse years the pay of a teacher or nurse earning years the pay of a teacher or nurse earning $60,000? years the pay of a teacher or nurse earning $60,000? Mr years the pay of a teacher or nurse earning $60,000? Mr Speaker, years the pay of a teacher or nurse earning $60,000? Mr Speaker, again, earning $60,000? Mr Speaker, again, I earning $60,000? Mr Speaker, again, I reject earning $60,000? Mr Speaker, again, I reject that's earning $60,000? Mr Speaker, again, I reject that's what earning $60,000? Mr Speaker, again, I reject that's what the earning $60,000? Mr Speaker, again, I reject that's what the guidance I reject that's what the guidance does. I reject that's what the guidance does. Question I reject that's what the guidance does. Question No. I reject that's what the guidance does. Question No. 12. I reject that's what the guidance does. Question No. 12. Thank I reject that's what the guidance does. Question No. 12. Thank you, I reject that's what the guidance does. Question No. 12. Thank you, Mr does. Question No. 12. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Rural My question is to the Minister for Rural Communities: Rural Communities: What Rural Communities: What concerns, Rural Communities: What concerns, if Rural Communities: What concerns, if any, What concerns, if any, have What concerns, if any, have been What concerns, if any, have been raised What concerns, if any, have been raised with What concerns, if any, have been raised with him have been raised with him about have been raised with him about the have been raised with him about the impacts have been raised with him about the impacts of have been raised with him about the impacts of Government about the impacts of Government policies about the impacts of Government policies on about the impacts of Government policies on rural about the impacts of Government policies on rural communities? 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And opinions on many issues, Mr Speaker. And I opinions on many issues, Mr Speaker. And I listen opinions on many issues, Mr Speaker. And I listen to opinions on many issues, Mr Speaker. And I listen to what opinions on many issues, Mr Speaker. And I listen to what is opinions on many issues, Mr Speaker. And I listen to what is top opinions on many issues, Mr Speaker. And I listen to what is top of opinions on many issues, Mr Speaker. And I listen to what is top of mind And I listen to what is top of mind for And I listen to what is top of mind for many And I listen to what is top of mind for many of And I listen to what is top of mind for many of those And I listen to what is top of mind for many of those communities. And I listen to what is top of mind for many of those communities. There for many of those communities. There are for many of those communities. There are issues for many of those communities. There are issues like for many of those communities. There are issues like water, for many of those communities. There are issues like water, banks are issues like water, banks closures, are issues like water, banks closures, live are issues like water, banks closures, live exports, are issues like water, banks closures, live exports, climate closures, live exports, climate policy, closures, live exports, climate policy, forestation, closures, live exports, climate policy, forestation, Mr closures, live exports, climate policy, forestation, Mr Speaker, closures, live exports, climate policy, forestation, Mr Speaker, and policy, forestation, Mr Speaker, and I'm policy, forestation, Mr Speaker, and I'm honoured policy, forestation, Mr Speaker, and I'm honoured to policy, forestation, Mr Speaker, and I'm honoured to be policy, forestation, Mr Speaker, and I'm honoured to be in policy, forestation, Mr Speaker, and I'm honoured to be in Parliament I'm honoured to be in Parliament here I'm honoured to be in Parliament here with I'm honoured to be in Parliament here with a I'm honoured to be in Parliament here with a large I'm honoured to be in Parliament here with a large number I'm honoured to be in Parliament here with a large number of I'm honoured to be in Parliament here with a large number of Labour here with a large number of Labour here with a large number of Labour here with a large number of Labour MPs who here with a large number of Labour MPs who are here with a large number of Labour MPs who are passionate here with a large number of Labour MPs who are passionate advocates here with a large number of Labour MPs who are passionate advocates for MPs who are passionate advocates for rural MPs who are passionate advocates for rural communities MPs who are passionate advocates for rural communities well, MPs who are passionate advocates for rural communities well, and MPs who are passionate advocates for rural communities well, and they rural communities well, and they pass rural communities well, and they pass on rural communities well, and they pass on to rural communities well, and they pass on to me rural communities well, and they pass on to me the rural communities well, and they pass on to me the issues rural communities well, and they pass on to me the issues as rural communities well, and they pass on to me the issues as raised pass on to me the issues as raised with pass on to me the issues as raised with them pass on to me the issues as raised with them on pass on to me the issues as raised with them on a pass on to me the issues as raised with them on a regular pass on to me the issues as raised with them on a regular basis. with them on a regular basis. 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Supplementary: Does he still believe Supplementary: Does he still believe that Supplementary: Does he still believe that the Supplementary: Does he still believe that the Government's Supplementary: Does he still believe that the Government's fresh Supplementary: Does he still believe that the Government's fresh water that the Government's fresh water reforms that the Government's fresh water reforms will that the Government's fresh water reforms will need that the Government's fresh water reforms will need to that the Government's fresh water reforms will need to be that the Government's fresh water reforms will need to be quote, reforms will need to be quote, "Tweaked reforms will need to be quote, "Tweaked to reforms will need to be quote, "Tweaked to better reforms will need to be quote, "Tweaked to better accommodate "Tweaked to better accommodate regional "Tweaked to better accommodate regional differences", "Tweaked to better accommodate regional differences", and "Tweaked to better accommodate regional differences", and if "Tweaked to better accommodate regional differences", and if so, regional differences", and if so, what regional differences", and if so, what further regional differences", and if so, what further actions regional differences", and if so, what further actions will regional differences", and if so, what further actions will be regional differences", and if so, what further actions will be taken? what further actions will be taken? 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How does he respond standards. Supplementary. How does he respond to standards. Supplementary. How does he respond to fedderated standards. Supplementary. How does he respond to fedderated farmers standards. Supplementary. 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I'd like to quote Andrew Hoggard, who said that quote Andrew Hoggard, who said that farmers quote Andrew Hoggard, who said that farmers actually quote Andrew Hoggard, who said that farmers actually have quote Andrew Hoggard, who said that farmers actually have to quote Andrew Hoggard, who said that farmers actually have to realise farmers actually have to realise that farmers actually have to realise that people farmers actually have to realise that people should farmers actually have to realise that people should work, farmers actually have to realise that people should work, probably farmers actually have to realise that people should work, probably on that people should work, probably on maximum, that people should work, probably on maximum, about that people should work, probably on maximum, about 50 that people should work, probably on maximum, about 50 hours that people should work, probably on maximum, about 50 hours a that people should work, probably on maximum, about 50 hours a week, that people should work, probably on maximum, about 50 hours a week, and maximum, about 50 hours a week, and get maximum, about 50 hours a week, and get two maximum, about 50 hours a week, and get two days maximum, about 50 hours a week, and get two days off. maximum, about 50 hours a week, and get two days off. Mr maximum, about 50 hours a week, and get two days off. Mr Speaker, maximum, about 50 hours a week, and get two days off. Mr Speaker, that's get two days off. Mr Speaker, that's what get two days off. Mr Speaker, that's what he get two days off. Mr Speaker, that's what he said get two days off. Mr Speaker, that's what he said because get two days off. Mr Speaker, that's what he said because that get two days off. Mr Speaker, that's what he said because that is get two days off. Mr Speaker, that's what he said because that is what get two days off. 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