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How many extra years of life, if any, is many extra years of life, if any, is it many extra years of life, if any, is it estimated many extra years of life, if any, is it estimated that many extra years of life, if any, is it estimated that New many extra years of life, if any, is it estimated that New Zealanders it estimated that New Zealanders will it estimated that New Zealanders will gain it estimated that New Zealanders will gain from it estimated that New Zealanders will gain from $485 it estimated that New Zealanders will gain from $485 million it estimated that New Zealanders will gain from $485 million spent it estimated that New Zealanders will gain from $485 million spent on will gain from $485 million spent on health will gain from $485 million spent on health restructuring will gain from $485 million spent on health restructuring compared will gain from $485 million spent on health restructuring compared to health restructuring compared to $485 health restructuring compared to $485 million health restructuring compared to $485 million invested health restructuring compared to $485 million invested in health restructuring compared to $485 million invested in PHARMAC? health restructuring compared to $485 million invested in PHARMAC? Mr $485 million invested in PHARMAC? Mr Speaker, $485 million invested in PHARMAC? Mr Speaker, what $485 million invested in PHARMAC? Mr Speaker, what will $485 million invested in PHARMAC? Mr Speaker, what will improve $485 million invested in PHARMAC? 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This will be achieved through planning processes that will through planning processes that will be through planning processes that will be improved through planning processes that will be improved so through planning processes that will be improved so that through planning processes that will be improved so that costs through planning processes that will be improved so that costs and through planning processes that will be improved so that costs and times be improved so that costs and times are be improved so that costs and times are reduced be improved so that costs and times are reduced for be improved so that costs and times are reduced for users be improved so that costs and times are reduced for users of be improved so that costs and times are reduced for users of the be improved so that costs and times are reduced for users of the system. are reduced for users of the system. How are reduced for users of the system. How did are reduced for users of the system. 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The The Hon The Hon Carmel The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Talofa The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Talofa lava, The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Talofa lava, Mr The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Talofa lava, Mr Speaker. The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Talofa lava, Mr Speaker. Yes, The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Talofa lava, Mr Speaker. Yes, living The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Talofa lava, Mr Speaker. Yes, living on lava, Mr Speaker. Yes, living on $315 lava, Mr Speaker. Yes, living on $315 per lava, Mr Speaker. Yes, living on $315 per week lava, Mr Speaker. Yes, living on $315 per week isn't lava, Mr Speaker. Yes, living on $315 per week isn't easy. lava, Mr Speaker. Yes, living on $315 per week isn't easy. From lava, Mr Speaker. Yes, living on $315 per week isn't easy. From 1 $315 per week isn't easy. From 1 April $315 per week isn't easy. From 1 April this $315 per week isn't easy. From 1 April this will $315 per week isn't easy. From 1 April this will be $315 per week isn't easy. 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We have come a long way but we have supplement. We have come a long way but we have more supplement. We have come a long way but we have more to supplement. We have come a long way but we have more to do supplement. We have come a long way but we have more to do when supplement. We have come a long way but we have more to do when it supplement. We have come a long way but we have more to do when it comes but we have more to do when it comes to but we have more to do when it comes to welfare but we have more to do when it comes to welfare reform but we have more to do when it comes to welfare reform and but we have more to do when it comes to welfare reform and making but we have more to do when it comes to welfare reform and making sure to welfare reform and making sure that to welfare reform and making sure that everybody to welfare reform and making sure that everybody can to welfare reform and making sure that everybody can live to welfare reform and making sure that everybody can live request that everybody can live request dignity. that everybody can live request dignity. That that everybody can live request dignity. That is that everybody can live request dignity. That is why that everybody can live request dignity. That is why the that everybody can live request dignity. That is why the government dignity. That is why the government announced dignity. That is why the government announced a dignity. That is why the government announced a review dignity. That is why the government announced a review of dignity. That is why the government announced a review of working dignity. That is why the government announced a review of working for announced a review of working for families announced a review of working for families in announced a review of working for families in budget announced a review of working for families in budget 2021. announced a review of working for families in budget 2021. This announced a review of working for families in budget 2021. This review families in budget 2021. This review was families in budget 2021. This review was proposed families in budget 2021. This review was proposed by families in budget 2021. This review was proposed by the families in budget 2021. This review was proposed by the welfare families in budget 2021. This review was proposed by the welfare expert was proposed by the welfare expert advisory was proposed by the welfare expert advisory group was proposed by the welfare expert advisory group and was proposed by the welfare expert advisory group and as was proposed by the welfare expert advisory group and as one was proposed by the welfare expert advisory group and as one of was proposed by the welfare expert advisory group and as one of a advisory group and as one of a number advisory group and as one of a number of advisory group and as one of a number of recommendations advisory group and as one of a number of recommendations we advisory group and as one of a number of recommendations we are number of recommendations we are working number of recommendations we are working through number of recommendations we are working through in number of recommendations we are working through in the number of recommendations we are working through in the short, number of recommendations we are working through in the short, medium working through in the short, medium and working through in the short, medium and long-term. working through in the short, medium and long-term. 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Budget 2021 benefit want to work. Budget 2021 sees benefit want to work. Budget 2021 sees the benefit want to work. Budget 2021 sees the government benefit want to work. Budget 2021 sees the government invest benefit want to work. Budget 2021 sees the government invest a benefit want to work. Budget 2021 sees the government invest a further sees the government invest a further $99 sees the government invest a further $99 million sees the government invest a further $99 million in sees the government invest a further $99 million in work-focused sees the government invest a further $99 million in work-focused case $99 million in work-focused case management $99 million in work-focused case management N $99 million in work-focused case management N investment $99 million in work-focused case management N investment along $99 million in work-focused case management N investment along with management N investment along with increasing management N investment along with increasing main management N investment along with increasing main benefit management N investment along with increasing main benefit rates management N investment along with increasing main benefit rates will increasing main benefit rates will help increasing main benefit rates will help us increasing main benefit rates will help us achieve increasing main benefit rates will help us achieve our increasing main benefit rates will help us achieve our aim increasing main benefit rates will help us achieve our aim of increasing main benefit rates will help us achieve our aim of ensuring help us achieve our aim of ensuring people help us achieve our aim of ensuring people can help us achieve our aim of ensuring people can live help us achieve our aim of ensuring people can live with help us achieve our aim of ensuring people can live with dignity. people can live with dignity. 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Mr Speaker, there is core benefits? Mr Speaker, there is a core benefits? Mr Speaker, there is a misconception core benefits? Mr Speaker, there is a misconception that core benefits? Mr Speaker, there is a misconception that people core benefits? Mr Speaker, there is a misconception that people will a misconception that people will have a misconception that people will have their a misconception that people will have their temporary a misconception that people will have their temporary additional have their temporary additional support have their temporary additional support abated have their temporary additional support abated dollar have their temporary additional support abated dollar for have their temporary additional support abated dollar for dollar support abated dollar for dollar with support abated dollar for dollar with benefit support abated dollar for dollar with benefit increases. support abated dollar for dollar with benefit increases. That's support abated dollar for dollar with benefit increases. That's not with benefit increases. That's not the with benefit increases. That's not the case. with benefit increases. That's not the case. Mr with benefit increases. That's not the case. Mr Speaker, with benefit increases. That's not the case. Mr Speaker, there with benefit increases. That's not the case. Mr Speaker, there are with benefit increases. That's not the case. Mr Speaker, there are many the case. Mr Speaker, there are many interactions the case. Mr Speaker, there are many interactions within the case. Mr Speaker, there are many interactions within the the case. Mr Speaker, there are many interactions within the welfare interactions within the welfare system. interactions within the welfare system. One interactions within the welfare system. One of interactions within the welfare system. One of them interactions within the welfare system. One of them with interactions within the welfare system. One of them with regards interactions within the welfare system. One of them with regards to system. One of them with regards to temporary system. One of them with regards to temporary additional system. One of them with regards to temporary additional support system. One of them with regards to temporary additional support is system. 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There's disability and have more expenses. There's an disability and have more expenses. There's an interaction disability and have more expenses. There's an interaction there, disability and have more expenses. There's an interaction there, Mr There's an interaction there, Mr Speaker, There's an interaction there, Mr Speaker, that There's an interaction there, Mr Speaker, that could There's an interaction there, Mr Speaker, that could have There's an interaction there, Mr Speaker, that could have seen There's an interaction there, Mr Speaker, that could have seen people Speaker, that could have seen people worse Speaker, that could have seen people worse off. Speaker, that could have seen people worse off. MSD Speaker, that could have seen people worse off. MSD has Speaker, that could have seen people worse off. MSD has fixed Speaker, that could have seen people worse off. MSD has fixed that. Speaker, that could have seen people worse off. MSD has fixed that. There worse off. MSD has fixed that. There will worse off. MSD has fixed that. There will be worse off. MSD has fixed that. There will be about worse off. MSD has fixed that. There will be about 120 worse off. MSD has fixed that. There will be about 120 people worse off. MSD has fixed that. There will be about 120 people on worse off. MSD has fixed that. There will be about 120 people on 1 worse off. MSD has fixed that. There will be about 120 people on 1 July will be about 120 people on 1 July who will be about 120 people on 1 July who maybe will be about 120 people on 1 July who maybe worse will be about 120 people on 1 July who maybe worse off will be about 120 people on 1 July who maybe worse off because will be about 120 people on 1 July who maybe worse off because of who maybe worse off because of benefit who maybe worse off because of benefit changes who maybe worse off because of benefit changes and who maybe worse off because of benefit changes and the who maybe worse off because of benefit changes and the interactions benefit changes and the interactions but benefit changes and the interactions but a benefit changes and the interactions but a temporary benefit changes and the interactions but a temporary additional benefit changes and the interactions but a temporary additional payment but a temporary additional payment will but a temporary additional payment will be but a temporary additional payment will be put but a temporary additional payment will be put in but a temporary additional payment will be put in place but a temporary additional payment will be put in place so but a temporary additional payment will be put in place so that but a temporary additional payment will be put in place so that doesn't will be put in place so that doesn't happen. will be put in place so that doesn't happen. 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Thank The Hon Poto Williams. Thank you. The Hon Poto Williams. Thank you. Mr The Hon Poto Williams. Thank you. Mr Speaker, The Hon Poto Williams. Thank you. Mr Speaker, this The Hon Poto Williams. Thank you. Mr Speaker, this government The Hon Poto Williams. Thank you. Mr Speaker, this government inherited Speaker, this government inherited annual Speaker, this government inherited annual police Speaker, this government inherited annual police funding Speaker, this government inherited annual police funding of Speaker, this government inherited annual police funding of $1.5 annual police funding of $1.5 billion annual police funding of $1.5 billion in annual police funding of $1.5 billion in 2017. annual police funding of $1.5 billion in 2017. We annual police funding of $1.5 billion in 2017. We have annual police funding of $1.5 billion in 2017. We have increased billion in 2017. We have increased that billion in 2017. We have increased that to billion in 2017. 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How will the $90 million cut to the police budget $90 million cut to the police budget in $90 million cut to the police budget in budget $90 million cut to the police budget in budget 2021 $90 million cut to the police budget in budget 2021 help $90 million cut to the police budget in budget 2021 help reduce $90 million cut to the police budget in budget 2021 help reduce the in budget 2021 help reduce the record in budget 2021 help reduce the record number in budget 2021 help reduce the record number of in budget 2021 help reduce the record number of people in budget 2021 help reduce the record number of people joining record number of people joining gangs record number of people joining gangs under record number of people joining gangs under this record number of people joining gangs under this government? record number of people joining gangs under this government? Mr gangs under this government? Mr Speaker, gangs under this government? Mr Speaker, I gangs under this government? 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Mr police budget has been cut by $90 million? Mr Speaker, police budget has been cut by $90 million? Mr Speaker, I police budget has been cut by $90 million? Mr Speaker, I repeat, police budget has been cut by $90 million? Mr Speaker, I repeat, the million? Mr Speaker, I repeat, the budget million? Mr Speaker, I repeat, the budget has million? Mr Speaker, I repeat, the budget has not million? Mr Speaker, I repeat, the budget has not been million? Mr Speaker, I repeat, the budget has not been cut million? Mr Speaker, I repeat, the budget has not been cut by million? 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Why has no new funding been given to Why has no new funding been given to the Why has no new funding been given to the gang Why has no new funding been given to the gang intelligence Why has no new funding been given to the gang intelligence centre Why has no new funding been given to the gang intelligence centre in the gang intelligence centre in budget the gang intelligence centre in budget 2021 the gang intelligence centre in budget 2021 when the gang intelligence centre in budget 2021 when there the gang intelligence centre in budget 2021 when there has the gang intelligence centre in budget 2021 when there has been the gang intelligence centre in budget 2021 when there has been a budget 2021 when there has been a 50% budget 2021 when there has been a 50% increase budget 2021 when there has been a 50% increase in budget 2021 when there has been a 50% increase in gang budget 2021 when there has been a 50% increase in gang membership 50% increase in gang membership under 50% increase in gang membership under this 50% increase in gang membership under this government? 50% increase in gang membership under this government? Mr 50% increase in gang membership under this government? Mr Speaker, 50% increase in gang membership under this government? Mr Speaker, I under this government? Mr Speaker, I have under this government? Mr Speaker, I have clearly under this government? Mr Speaker, I have clearly explained under this government? Mr Speaker, I have clearly explained that under this government? Mr Speaker, I have clearly explained that - under this government? Mr Speaker, I have clearly explained that - and under this government? 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And this has seized 522 firearms, $2.6 million in cash, firearms, $2.6 million in cash, arrested firearms, $2.6 million in cash, arrested 476 firearms, $2.6 million in cash, arrested 476 people, firearms, $2.6 million in cash, arrested 476 people, seized arrested 476 people, seized methamphetamine arrested 476 people, seized methamphetamine and arrested 476 people, seized methamphetamine and conducted arrested 476 people, seized methamphetamine and conducted 361 methamphetamine and conducted 361 search methamphetamine and conducted 361 search warrants. methamphetamine and conducted 361 search warrants. The methamphetamine and conducted 361 search warrants. The police methamphetamine and conducted 361 search warrants. The police are search warrants. The police are doing search warrants. The police are doing a search warrants. The police are doing a fantastic search warrants. The police are doing a fantastic job search warrants. The police are doing a fantastic job at search warrants. 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