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INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: Almighty INTERPRETER: Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. Hipkins. Hipkins. Today Hipkins. Today the Hipkins. Today the House Hipkins. Today the House adjourns Hipkins. Today the House adjourns until Hipkins. Today the House adjourns until Tuesday Hipkins. Today the House adjourns until Tuesday 22 Hipkins. Today the House adjourns until Tuesday 22 on Hipkins. Today the House adjourns until Tuesday 22 on that Hipkins. Today the House adjourns until Tuesday 22 on that day Hipkins. 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The house comes to oral questions. Andrew Andrew Bayly. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: My question is to the Minister of Finance: Is My question is to the Minister of Finance: Is he My question is to the Minister of Finance: Is he confident My question is to the Minister of Finance: Is he confident the Finance: Is he confident the Government Finance: Is he confident the Government is Finance: Is he confident the Government is getting Finance: Is he confident the Government is getting good Finance: Is he confident the Government is getting good value Finance: Is he confident the Government is getting good value for Government is getting good value for money Government is getting good value for money out Government is getting good value for money out of Government is getting good value for money out of all Government is getting good value for money out of all the Government is getting good value for money out of all the taxpayer Government is getting good value for money out of all the taxpayer money money out of all the taxpayer money that money out of all the taxpayer money that it money out of all the taxpayer money that it is money out of all the taxpayer money that it is spending? The The Hon The Hon Grant The Hon Grant Robertson. The Hon Grant Robertson. I The Hon Grant Robertson. I am The Hon Grant Robertson. I am confident The Hon Grant Robertson. I am confident that The Hon Grant Robertson. I am confident that not The Hon Grant Robertson. I am confident that not just The Hon Grant Robertson. 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I would add that as has always been the case, that as has always been the case, some that as has always been the case, some initiatives that as has always been the case, some initiatives do that as has always been the case, some initiatives do need that as has always been the case, some initiatives do need to that as has always been the case, some initiatives do need to be some initiatives do need to be altered some initiatives do need to be altered along some initiatives do need to be altered along the some initiatives do need to be altered along the way some initiatives do need to be altered along the way to some initiatives do need to be altered along the way to ensure some initiatives do need to be altered along the way to ensure that altered along the way to ensure that they altered along the way to ensure that they deliver altered along the way to ensure that they deliver the altered along the way to ensure that they deliver the best altered along the way to ensure that they deliver the best value altered along the way to ensure that they deliver the best value for they deliver the best value for money. they deliver the best value for money. 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This is particularly the case when new programmes are being when new programmes are being developed when new programmes are being developed and when new programmes are being developed and if when new programmes are being developed and if we're when new programmes are being developed and if we're adopting developed and if we're adopting innovative developed and if we're adopting innovative approaches developed and if we're adopting innovative approaches to developed and if we're adopting innovative approaches to improving innovative approaches to improving the innovative approaches to improving the wellbeing innovative approaches to improving the wellbeing of innovative approaches to improving the wellbeing of New innovative approaches to improving the wellbeing of New Zealanders the wellbeing of New Zealanders there the wellbeing of New Zealanders there will the wellbeing of New Zealanders there will be the wellbeing of New Zealanders there will be occasions the wellbeing of New Zealanders there will be occasions where the wellbeing of New Zealanders there will be occasions where they there will be occasions where they do there will be occasions where they do not there will be occasions where they do not work there will be occasions where they do not work as there will be occasions where they do not work as initially there will be occasions where they do not work as initially planned there will be occasions where they do not work as initially planned and do not work as initially planned and do do not work as initially planned and can be tweaked. do not work as initially planned and can be tweaked. 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Can he confirm that for 785 million for he confirm that for 785 million for a he confirm that for 785 million for a circle he confirm that for 785 million for a circle bridge he confirm that for 785 million for a circle bridge in he confirm that for 785 million for a circle bridge in Auckland he confirm that for 785 million for a circle bridge in Auckland would a circle bridge in Auckland would clear a circle bridge in Auckland would clear the a circle bridge in Auckland would clear the entire a circle bridge in Auckland would clear the entire waiting a circle bridge in Auckland would clear the entire waiting list a circle bridge in Auckland would clear the entire waiting list for clear the entire waiting list for the clear the entire waiting list for the 30,000 clear the entire waiting list for the 30,000 people clear the entire waiting list for the 30,000 people needing clear the entire waiting list for the 30,000 people needing hip the 30,000 people needing hip replacements the 30,000 people needing hip replacements thus the 30,000 people needing hip replacements thus fund the 30,000 people needing hip replacements thus fund 100,000 the 30,000 people needing hip replacements thus fund 100,000 free replacements thus fund 100,000 free mental replacements thus fund 100,000 free mental health replacements thus fund 100,000 free mental health counselling replacements thus fund 100,000 free mental health counselling sessions. mental health counselling sessions. Mr mental health counselling sessions. Mr Speaker, mental health counselling sessions. Mr Speaker, I'm mental health counselling sessions. Mr Speaker, I'm sure mental health counselling sessions. Mr Speaker, I'm sure the mental health counselling sessions. Mr Speaker, I'm sure the member mental health counselling sessions. Mr Speaker, I'm sure the member is Mr Speaker, I'm sure the member is aware Mr Speaker, I'm sure the member is aware of Mr Speaker, I'm sure the member is aware of the Mr Speaker, I'm sure the member is aware of the difference Mr Speaker, I'm sure the member is aware of the difference between aware of the difference between operate aware of the difference between operate and aware of the difference between operate and operating aware of the difference between operate and operating expenditure. operate and operating expenditure. He operate and operating expenditure. He also operate and operating expenditure. He also will operate and operating expenditure. 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He also will be aware that we spend He also will be aware that we spend billions He also will be aware that we spend billions of He also will be aware that we spend billions of dollars He also will be aware that we spend billions of dollars each He also will be aware that we spend billions of dollars each year He also will be aware that we spend billions of dollars each year in He also will be aware that we spend billions of dollars each year in our billions of dollars each year in our health billions of dollars each year in our health system billions of dollars each year in our health system and billions of dollars each year in our health system and he's billions of dollars each year in our health system and he's at billions of dollars each year in our health system and he's at risk billions of dollars each year in our health system and he's at risk here health system and he's at risk here of health system and he's at risk here of comparing health system and he's at risk here of comparing apples health system and he's at risk here of comparing apples and health system and he's at risk here of comparing apples and giraffes. of comparing apples and giraffes. 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Can he confirm that for $785 million the government for $785 million the government could for $785 million the government could pay for $785 million the government could pay for for $785 million the government could pay for all for $785 million the government could pay for all life-saving could pay for all life-saving medicines could pay for all life-saving medicines on could pay for all life-saving medicines on the could pay for all life-saving medicines on the unfunded could pay for all life-saving medicines on the unfunded list could pay for all life-saving medicines on the unfunded list for medicines on the unfunded list for two medicines on the unfunded list for two years medicines on the unfunded list for two years including medicines on the unfunded list for two years including for medicines on the unfunded list for two years including for cancer two years including for cancer treatment? two years including for cancer treatment? What two years including for cancer treatment? 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In -- this government and governments previously have always governments previously have always investmented governments previously have always investmented in governments previously have always investmented in long-term governments previously have always investmented in long-term transport investmented in long-term transport projects investmented in long-term transport projects at investmented in long-term transport projects at ta investmented in long-term transport projects at ta same investmented in long-term transport projects at ta same time investmented in long-term transport projects at ta same time as investmented in long-term transport projects at ta same time as 234 projects at ta same time as 234 investing projects at ta same time as 234 investing in projects at ta same time as 234 investing in other projects at ta same time as 234 investing in other things. projects at ta same time as 234 investing in other things. Can projects at ta same time as 234 investing in other things. Can he investing in other things. Can he confirm investing in other things. Can he confirm that investing in other things. Can he confirm that for investing in other things. Can he confirm that for $785 investing in other things. Can he confirm that for $785 million investing in other things. 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Glen Bennett. <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Research, My question is to the Minister of Research, Science My question is to the Minister of Research, Science and My question is to the Minister of Research, Science and Innovation: Research, Science and Innovation: How Research, Science and Innovation: How is Research, Science and Innovation: How is the Research, Science and Innovation: How is the Government Research, Science and Innovation: How is the Government continuing Research, Science and Innovation: How is the Government continuing to How is the Government continuing to support How is the Government continuing to support Just How is the Government continuing to support Just Transition How is the Government continuing to support Just Transition in How is the Government continuing to support Just Transition in Taranaki support Just Transition in Taranaki and support Just Transition in Taranaki and Southland support Just Transition in Taranaki and Southland through support Just Transition in Taranaki and Southland through Budget support Just Transition in Taranaki and Southland through Budget 2021? The The Hon The Hon Megan The Hon Megan Woods. The Hon Megan Woods. Thank The Hon Megan Woods. Thank you. The Hon Megan Woods. Thank you. Last The Hon Megan Woods. Thank you. Last month's The Hon Megan Woods. Thank you. Last month's budget The Hon Megan Woods. Thank you. Last month's budget included The Hon Megan Woods. Thank you. Last month's budget included $20 The Hon Megan Woods. Thank you. Last month's budget included $20 million month's budget included $20 million over month's budget included $20 million over four month's budget included $20 million over four years month's budget included $20 million over four years to month's budget included $20 million over four years to continue month's budget included $20 million over four years to continue the month's budget included $20 million over four years to continue the work over four years to continue the work we over four years to continue the work we started over four years to continue the work we started in over four years to continue the work we started in 2018 over four years to continue the work we started in 2018 supporting over four years to continue the work we started in 2018 supporting a over four years to continue the work we started in 2018 supporting a just we started in 2018 supporting a just transition we started in 2018 supporting a just transition approach we started in 2018 supporting a just transition approach in we started in 2018 supporting a just transition approach in Taranaki we started in 2018 supporting a just transition approach in Taranaki as transition approach in Taranaki as the transition approach in Taranaki as the region transition approach in Taranaki as the region moves transition approach in Taranaki as the region moves away transition approach in Taranaki as the region moves away from transition approach in Taranaki as the region moves away from oil transition approach in Taranaki as the region moves away from oil and the region moves away from oil and gas the region moves away from oil and gas exploration. the region moves away from oil and gas exploration. This the region moves away from oil and gas exploration. This funding the region moves away from oil and gas exploration. This funding will gas exploration. This funding will also gas exploration. This funding will also enable gas exploration. This funding will also enable support gas exploration. This funding will also enable support to gas exploration. This funding will also enable support to be gas exploration. This funding will also enable support to be extented also enable support to be extented to also enable support to be extented to the also enable support to be extented to the Southland also enable support to be extented to the Southland community also enable support to be extented to the Southland community as also enable support to be extented to the Southland community as the to the Southland community as the aluminium to the Southland community as the aluminium smelter to the Southland community as the aluminium smelter moves to the Southland community as the aluminium smelter moves towards aluminium smelter moves towards closure aluminium smelter moves towards closure in aluminium smelter moves towards closure in 2024. aluminium smelter moves towards closure in 2024. I'm aluminium smelter moves towards closure in 2024. I'm proud aluminium smelter moves towards closure in 2024. I'm proud of aluminium smelter moves towards closure in 2024. I'm proud of the closure in 2024. 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I'm proud of the work we've started on supporting work we've started on supporting workers work we've started on supporting workers and work we've started on supporting workers and communities work we've started on supporting workers and communities through work we've started on supporting workers and communities through the workers and communities through the transition workers and communities through the transition to workers and communities through the transition to a workers and communities through the transition to a low-emissions workers and communities through the transition to a low-emissions future transition to a low-emissions future and transition to a low-emissions future and I transition to a low-emissions future and I was transition to a low-emissions future and I was suppose transition to a low-emissions future and I was suppose are transition to a low-emissions future and I was suppose are pleased transition to a low-emissions future and I was suppose are pleased to transition to a low-emissions future and I was suppose are pleased to see and I was suppose are pleased to see the and I was suppose are pleased to see the endorsement and I was suppose are pleased to see the endorsement of and I was suppose are pleased to see the endorsement of the and I was suppose are pleased to see the endorsement of the just the endorsement of the just transition the endorsement of the just transition approach the endorsement of the just transition approach by the endorsement of the just transition approach by the the endorsement of the just transition approach by the climate transition approach by the climate commission transition approach by the climate commission in transition approach by the climate commission in their transition approach by the climate commission in their advice transition approach by the climate commission in their advice released commission in their advice released yesterday. commission in their advice released yesterday. What commission in their advice released yesterday. What will commission in their advice released yesterday. What will budget commission in their advice released yesterday. What will budget 2021's yesterday. What will budget 2021's funding yesterday. What will budget 2021's funding support yesterday. What will budget 2021's funding support in yesterday. What will budget 2021's funding support in Taranaki yesterday. What will budget 2021's funding support in Taranaki and funding support in Taranaki and south funding support in Taranaki and south land? funding support in Taranaki and south land? Mr funding support in Taranaki and south land? Mr Speaker, funding support in Taranaki and south land? Mr Speaker, funds funding support in Taranaki and south land? Mr Speaker, funds will south land? Mr Speaker, funds will be south land? Mr Speaker, funds will be used south land? Mr Speaker, funds will be used to south land? Mr Speaker, funds will be used to unlock south land? 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In to support to ongoing transition process. In Taranaki, to support to ongoing transition process. In Taranaki, a to support to ongoing transition process. In Taranaki, a significant process. In Taranaki, a significant engagement process. In Taranaki, a significant engagement programme process. In Taranaki, a significant engagement programme has process. In Taranaki, a significant engagement programme has been engagement programme has been undertaken engagement programme has been undertaken to engagement programme has been undertaken to deliver engagement programme has been undertaken to deliver regional undertaken to deliver regional economic undertaken to deliver regional economic development undertaken to deliver regional economic development plans undertaken to deliver regional economic development plans that undertaken to deliver regional economic development plans that sent economic development plans that sent the economic development plans that sent the strategy economic development plans that sent the strategy for economic development plans that sent the strategy for the economic development plans that sent the strategy for the region economic development plans that sent the strategy for the region through the strategy for the region through to the strategy for the region through to 2050. the strategy for the region through to 2050. And the strategy for the region through to 2050. And this the strategy for the region through to 2050. And this new the strategy for the region through to 2050. And this new funding the strategy for the region through to 2050. And this new funding will to 2050. And this new funding will support to 2050. And this new funding will support implementation to 2050. And this new funding will support implementation of to 2050. And this new funding will support implementation of these support implementation of these plans. support implementation of these plans. In support implementation of these plans. In Southland support implementation of these plans. In Southland we're support implementation of these plans. In Southland we're working plans. In Southland we're working closely plans. In Southland we're working closely with plans. In Southland we're working closely with regional plans. In Southland we're working closely with regional stakeholders closely with regional stakeholders to closely with regional stakeholders to identify closely with regional stakeholders to identify priorities closely with regional stakeholders to identify priorities and closely with regional stakeholders to identify priorities and projects to identify priorities and projects that to identify priorities and projects that can to identify priorities and projects that can support to identify priorities and projects that can support the to identify priorities and projects that can support the transition that can support the transition following that can support the transition following the that can support the transition following the expected that can support the transition following the expected closure that can support the transition following the expected closure of following the expected closure of the following the expected closure of the an following the expected closure of the an aluminium following the expected closure of the an aluminium smelter following the expected closure of the an aluminium smelter in following the expected closure of the an aluminium smelter in 2024. the an aluminium smelter in 2024. 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Mr Speaker, a just transition is about climate change goals? Mr Speaker, a just transition is about how climate change goals? Mr Speaker, a just transition is about how we climate change goals? Mr Speaker, a just transition is about how we plan just transition is about how we plan for just transition is about how we plan for a just transition is about how we plan for a future just transition is about how we plan for a future with just transition is about how we plan for a future with a just transition is about how we plan for a future with a low-emissions for a future with a low-emissions economy, for a future with a low-emissions economy, and for a future with a low-emissions economy, and what for a future with a low-emissions economy, and what that for a future with a low-emissions economy, and what that looks for a future with a low-emissions economy, and what that looks like for a future with a low-emissions economy, and what that looks like in economy, and what that looks like in partnership economy, and what that looks like in partnership with economy, and what that looks like in partnership with those economy, and what that looks like in partnership with those affected economy, and what that looks like in partnership with those affected the partnership with those affected the most. partnership with those affected the most. 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The The Hon The Hon Grant The Hon Grant Robertson. The Hon Grant Robertson. Supporting The Hon Grant Robertson. Supporting New The Hon Grant Robertson. Supporting New Zealanders The Hon Grant Robertson. Supporting New Zealanders through The Hon Grant Robertson. Supporting New Zealanders through a The Hon Grant Robertson. 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We are very confident and optimistic of the very confident and optimistic of the ability very confident and optimistic of the ability of very confident and optimistic of the ability of New very confident and optimistic of the ability of New Zealand very confident and optimistic of the ability of New Zealand workers very confident and optimistic of the ability of New Zealand workers and ability of New Zealand workers and businesses ability of New Zealand workers and businesses to ability of New Zealand workers and businesses to transition ability of New Zealand workers and businesses to transition with businesses to transition with support businesses to transition with support to businesses to transition with support to use businesses to transition with support to use new businesses to transition with support to use new technologies businesses to transition with support to use new technologies to support to use new technologies to create support to use new technologies to create new support to use new technologies to create new jobs support to use new technologies to create new jobs and support to use new technologies to create new jobs and new support to use new technologies to create new jobs and new areas support to use new technologies to create new jobs and new areas of create new jobs and new areas of work create new jobs and new areas of work but create new jobs and new areas of work but that create new jobs and new areas of work but that will create new jobs and new areas of work but that will be create new jobs and new areas of work but that will be a create new jobs and new areas of work but that will be a partnership. work but that will be a partnership. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Associate My question is to the Associate Minister My question is to the Associate Minister of My question is to the Associate Minister of Housing My question is to the Associate Minister of Housing (Public Minister of Housing (Public Housing): Minister of Housing (Public Housing): Does Minister of Housing (Public Housing): Does she Minister of Housing (Public Housing): Does she agree Minister of Housing (Public Housing): Does she agree with Minister of Housing (Public Housing): Does she agree with the Housing): Does she agree with the Minister Housing): Does she agree with the Minister of Housing): Does she agree with the Minister of Housing's Housing): Does she agree with the Minister of Housing's statement, Housing): Does she agree with the Minister of Housing's statement, "I Minister of Housing's statement, "I think Minister of Housing's statement, "I think there Minister of Housing's statement, "I think there are Minister of Housing's statement, "I think there are a Minister of Housing's statement, "I think there are a number Minister of Housing's statement, "I think there are a number of Minister of Housing's statement, "I think there are a number of really think there are a number of really good think there are a number of really good landlords think there are a number of really good landlords and think there are a number of really good landlords and I think there are a number of really good landlords and I think think there are a number of really good landlords and I think we think there are a number of really good landlords and I think we all good landlords and I think we all meet good landlords and I think we all meet them good landlords and I think we all meet them when good landlords and I think we all meet them when we're good landlords and I think we all meet them when we're out good landlords and I think we all meet them when we're out and good landlords and I think we all meet them when we're out and about good landlords and I think we all meet them when we're out and about - meet them when we're out and about - but meet them when we're out and about - but certainly, meet them when we're out and about - but certainly, with meet them when we're out and about - but certainly, with some meet them when we're out and about - but certainly, with some landlords but certainly, with some landlords as but certainly, with some landlords as there but certainly, with some landlords as there is but certainly, with some landlords as there is in but certainly, with some landlords as there is in any but certainly, with some landlords as there is in any sector but certainly, with some landlords as there is in any sector of but certainly, with some landlords as there is in any sector of society as there is in any sector of society - as there is in any sector of society - yes, as there is in any sector of society - yes, there as there is in any sector of society - yes, there is as there is in any sector of society - yes, there is more as there is in any sector of society - yes, there is more need as there is in any sector of society - yes, there is more need for - yes, there is more need for compassion."? The The Hon The Hon Poto The Hon Poto Williams. The Hon Poto Williams. Yes, The Hon Poto Williams. Yes, and The Hon Poto Williams. Yes, and I The Hon Poto Williams. Yes, and I also The Hon Poto Williams. Yes, and I also agree The Hon Poto Williams. Yes, and I also agree with The Hon Poto Williams. Yes, and I also agree with the The Hon Poto Williams. Yes, and I also agree with the minister The Hon Poto Williams. Yes, and I also agree with the minister when also agree with the minister when she also agree with the minister when she said also agree with the minister when she said that also agree with the minister when she said that the also agree with the minister when she said that the government also agree with the minister when she said that the government is also agree with the minister when she said that the government is not she said that the government is not relying she said that the government is not relying on she said that the government is not relying on compassion she said that the government is not relying on compassion to she said that the government is not relying on compassion to deal she said that the government is not relying on compassion to deal with relying on compassion to deal with the relying on compassion to deal with the housing relying on compassion to deal with the housing crisis relying on compassion to deal with the housing crisis and relying on compassion to deal with the housing crisis and has relying on compassion to deal with the housing crisis and has also relying on compassion to deal with the housing crisis and has also goed the housing crisis and has also goed laws the housing crisis and has also goed laws to the housing crisis and has also goed laws to ensure the housing crisis and has also goed laws to ensure they the housing crisis and has also goed laws to ensure they are the housing crisis and has also goed laws to ensure they are fit the housing crisis and has also goed laws to ensure they are fit for the housing crisis and has also goed laws to ensure they are fit for the laws to ensure they are fit for the 21st laws to ensure they are fit for the 21st century. laws to ensure they are fit for the 21st century. Supplementary. laws to ensure they are fit for the 21st century. Supplementary. Does 21st century. Supplementary. Does she 21st century. Supplementary. Does she believe 21st century. Supplementary. Does she believe the 21st century. Supplementary. Does she believe the government 21st century. Supplementary. Does she believe the government is 21st century. Supplementary. Does she believe the government is a she believe the government is a compassionate she believe the government is a compassionate landlord she believe the government is a compassionate landlord when she believe the government is a compassionate landlord when only compassionate landlord when only 11,000 compassionate landlord when only 11,000 of compassionate landlord when only 11,000 of its compassionate landlord when only 11,000 of its 68,000 compassionate landlord when only 11,000 of its 68,000 homes compassionate landlord when only 11,000 of its 68,000 homes meet compassionate landlord when only 11,000 of its 68,000 homes meet the 11,000 of its 68,000 homes meet the healthy 11,000 of its 68,000 homes meet the healthy home 11,000 of its 68,000 homes meet the healthy home standards? 11,000 of its 68,000 homes meet the healthy home standards? Mr 11,000 of its 68,000 homes meet the healthy home standards? Mr Speaker, healthy home standards? Mr Speaker, I healthy home standards? Mr Speaker, I reject healthy home standards? Mr Speaker, I reject the healthy home standards? Mr Speaker, I reject the premise healthy home standards? Mr Speaker, I reject the premise of healthy home standards? Mr Speaker, I reject the premise of that I reject the premise of that question. I reject the premise of that question. Kainga I reject the premise of that question. Kainga Ora I reject the premise of that question. Kainga Ora homes I reject the premise of that question. Kainga Ora homes and question. Kainga Ora homes and communities question. Kainga Ora homes and communities advises question. Kainga Ora homes and communities advises me question. Kainga Ora homes and communities advises me that, question. Kainga Ora homes and communities advises me that, yes, communities advises me that, yes, 11,345 communities advises me that, yes, 11,345 of communities advises me that, yes, 11,345 of their communities advises me that, yes, 11,345 of their homes communities advises me that, yes, 11,345 of their homes currently communities advises me that, yes, 11,345 of their homes currently meet 11,345 of their homes currently meet healthy 11,345 of their homes currently meet healthy home 11,345 of their homes currently meet healthy home standards. 11,345 of their homes currently meet healthy home standards. However, healthy home standards. However, they healthy home standards. However, they are healthy home standards. However, they are not healthy home standards. However, they are not required healthy home standards. However, they are not required to healthy home standards. However, they are not required to complete they are not required to complete their they are not required to complete their target they are not required to complete their target until they are not required to complete their target until much they are not required to complete their target until much later, they are not required to complete their target until much later, and their target until much later, and that their target until much later, and that is their target until much later, and that is because their target until much later, and that is because they their target until much later, and that is because they have their target until much later, and that is because they have a that is because they have a portfolio that is because they have a portfolio of that is because they have a portfolio of 66,000. that is because they have a portfolio of 66,000. And that is because they have a portfolio of 66,000. And the that is because they have a portfolio of 66,000. And the other portfolio of 66,000. And the other reason portfolio of 66,000. And the other reason is portfolio of 66,000. And the other reason is that portfolio of 66,000. And the other reason is that we portfolio of 66,000. And the other reason is that we intend portfolio of 66,000. And the other reason is that we intend to portfolio of 66,000. And the other reason is that we intend to spread reason is that we intend to spread the reason is that we intend to spread the demand reason is that we intend to spread the demand for reason is that we intend to spread the demand for building reason is that we intend to spread the demand for building materials the demand for building materials and the demand for building materials and trades the demand for building materials and trades across the demand for building materials and trades across the the demand for building materials and trades across the time the demand for building materials and trades across the time period and trades across the time period and and trades across the time period and allow and trades across the time period and allow for and trades across the time period and allow for sufficient and trades across the time period and allow for sufficient time and trades across the time period and allow for sufficient time for and allow for sufficient time for private and allow for sufficient time for private landlords and allow for sufficient time for private landlords to and allow for sufficient time for private landlords to complete and allow for sufficient time for private landlords to complete their private landlords to complete their obligations private landlords to complete their obligations under private landlords to complete their obligations under the private landlords to complete their obligations under the healthy private landlords to complete their obligations under the healthy home obligations under the healthy home standards. obligations under the healthy home standards. Supplementary. obligations under the healthy home standards. Supplementary. How obligations under the healthy home standards. Supplementary. How can standards. Supplementary. How can the standards. Supplementary. How can the Minister standards. Supplementary. How can the Minister of standards. Supplementary. How can the Minister of Housing standards. Supplementary. How can the Minister of Housing demand the Minister of Housing demand compassion the Minister of Housing demand compassion from the Minister of Housing demand compassion from private the Minister of Housing demand compassion from private landlords compassion from private landlords who compassion from private landlords who must compassion from private landlords who must comply compassion from private landlords who must comply with compassion from private landlords who must comply with healthy compassion from private landlords who must comply with healthy home who must comply with healthy home standards who must comply with healthy home standards by who must comply with healthy home standards by 1 who must comply with healthy home standards by 1 July who must comply with healthy home standards by 1 July when who must comply with healthy home standards by 1 July when 57,000 who must comply with healthy home standards by 1 July when 57,000 of standards by 1 July when 57,000 of its standards by 1 July when 57,000 of its own standards by 1 July when 57,000 of its own homes standards by 1 July when 57,000 of its own homes don't standards by 1 July when 57,000 of its own homes don't meet standards by 1 July when 57,000 of its own homes don't meet the standards by 1 July when 57,000 of its own homes don't meet the same its own homes don't meet the same standards? its own homes don't meet the same standards? 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Mr Speaker, to refer back to my previous answer, I don't know to my previous answer, I don't know that to my previous answer, I don't know that the to my previous answer, I don't know that the member to my previous answer, I don't know that the member is to my previous answer, I don't know that the member is aware to my previous answer, I don't know that the member is aware of to my previous answer, I don't know that the member is aware of just to my previous answer, I don't know that the member is aware of just how that the member is aware of just how massive that the member is aware of just how massive a that the member is aware of just how massive a task that the member is aware of just how massive a task it that the member is aware of just how massive a task it is that the member is aware of just how massive a task it is for that the member is aware of just how massive a task it is for Kainga that the member is aware of just how massive a task it is for Kainga Ora massive a task it is for Kainga Ora to massive a task it is for Kainga Ora to complete. massive a task it is for Kainga Ora to complete. <INTERRUPTION> to complete. <INTERRUPTION> And to complete. <INTERRUPTION> And in to complete. <INTERRUPTION> And in order to complete. <INTERRUPTION> And in order to to complete. <INTERRUPTION> And in order to not to complete. <INTERRUPTION> And in order to not put to complete. <INTERRUPTION> And in order to not put pressure to complete. <INTERRUPTION> And in order to not put pressure on And in order to not put pressure on the And in order to not put pressure on the rest And in order to not put pressure on the rest of And in order to not put pressure on the rest of the And in order to not put pressure on the rest of the community And in order to not put pressure on the rest of the community in And in order to not put pressure on the rest of the community in terms the rest of the community in terms of the rest of the community in terms of demand the rest of the community in terms of demand nor the rest of the community in terms of demand nor building the rest of the community in terms of demand nor building materials the rest of the community in terms of demand nor building materials and of demand nor building materials and trades of demand nor building materials and trades we of demand nor building materials and trades we have of demand nor building materials and trades we have ensured of demand nor building materials and trades we have ensured that of demand nor building materials and trades we have ensured that we trades we have ensured that we spread trades we have ensured that we spread the trades we have ensured that we spread the demand trades we have ensured that we spread the demand for trades we have ensured that we spread the demand for that trades we have ensured that we spread the demand for that by spread the demand for that by allowing spread the demand for that by allowing Kainga spread the demand for that by allowing Kainga Ora spread the demand for that by allowing Kainga Ora to spread the demand for that by allowing Kainga Ora to take spread the demand for that by allowing Kainga Ora to take a spread the demand for that by allowing Kainga Ora to take a little allowing Kainga Ora to take a little more allowing Kainga Ora to take a little more time allowing Kainga Ora to take a little more time than allowing Kainga Ora to take a little more time than other allowing Kainga Ora to take a little more time than other landlords allowing Kainga Ora to take a little more time than other landlords to allowing Kainga Ora to take a little more time than other landlords to do more time than other landlords to do so. more time than other landlords to do so. <INTERRUPTION> so. <INTERRUPTION> Nicola so. <INTERRUPTION> Nicola Willis. so. <INTERRUPTION> Nicola Willis. 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Can she confirm that the government has decided to exempt the government has decided to exempt Kainga the government has decided to exempt Kainga Ora-owned the government has decided to exempt Kainga Ora-owned properties the government has decided to exempt Kainga Ora-owned properties from the government has decided to exempt Kainga Ora-owned properties from the Kainga Ora-owned properties from the tax Kainga Ora-owned properties from the tax changes Kainga Ora-owned properties from the tax changes to Kainga Ora-owned properties from the tax changes to interest tax changes to interest deductibility? tax changes to interest deductibility? And tax changes to interest deductibility? And why tax changes to interest deductibility? And why is tax changes to interest deductibility? And why is there tax changes to interest deductibility? And why is there one deductibility? And why is there one rule deductibility? And why is there one rule for deductibility? And why is there one rule for private deductibility? And why is there one rule for private landlords deductibility? And why is there one rule for private landlords and rule for private landlords and another rule for private landlords and another one rule for private landlords and another one for rule for private landlords and another one for the rule for private landlords and another one for the government? rule for private landlords and another one for the government? Mr another one for the government? Mr Speaker, another one for the government? Mr Speaker, there another one for the government? Mr Speaker, there have another one for the government? Mr Speaker, there have been another one for the government? 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Trade My question is to the Minister for Trade and My question is to the Minister for Trade and Export My question is to the Minister for Trade and Export Growth: My question is to the Minister for Trade and Export Growth: How My question is to the Minister for Trade and Export Growth: How has My question is to the Minister for Trade and Export Growth: How has New Trade and Export Growth: How has New Zealand Trade and Export Growth: How has New Zealand contributed Trade and Export Growth: How has New Zealand contributed to Trade and Export Growth: How has New Zealand contributed to APEC's Zealand contributed to APEC's commitment Zealand contributed to APEC's commitment to Zealand contributed to APEC's commitment to speeding Zealand contributed to APEC's commitment to speeding up Zealand contributed to APEC's commitment to speeding up the commitment to speeding up the cross-border commitment to speeding up the cross-border flow commitment to speeding up the cross-border flow of commitment to speeding up the cross-border flow of vaccines commitment to speeding up the cross-border flow of vaccines and cross-border flow of vaccines and related cross-border flow of vaccines and related goods cross-border flow of vaccines and related goods to cross-border flow of vaccines and related goods to fight cross-border flow of vaccines and related goods to fight the cross-border flow of vaccines and related goods to fight the COVID-19 related goods to fight the COVID-19 pandemic? The The Hon The Hon Damien The Hon Damien O'Connor. The Hon Damien O'Connor. On The Hon Damien O'Connor. On Friday The Hon Damien O'Connor. On Friday and The Hon Damien O'Connor. On Friday and Saturday The Hon Damien O'Connor. On Friday and Saturday I The Hon Damien O'Connor. On Friday and Saturday I chaired The Hon Damien O'Connor. On Friday and Saturday I chaired the The Hon Damien O'Connor. On Friday and Saturday I chaired the annual and Saturday I chaired the annual APEC and Saturday I chaired the annual APEC ministers and Saturday I chaired the annual APEC ministers responsible and Saturday I chaired the annual APEC ministers responsible for and Saturday I chaired the annual APEC ministers responsible for trade APEC ministers responsible for trade meeting. APEC ministers responsible for trade meeting. One APEC ministers responsible for trade meeting. One of APEC ministers responsible for trade meeting. One of the APEC ministers responsible for trade meeting. 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Mr Speaker, force for good and collectively APEC ministers delivered. Mr Speaker, the ministers delivered. Mr Speaker, the impact ministers delivered. Mr Speaker, the impact of ministers delivered. Mr Speaker, the impact of the ministers delivered. Mr Speaker, the impact of the APEC ministers delivered. Mr Speaker, the impact of the APEC Trade ministers delivered. Mr Speaker, the impact of the APEC Trade Ministers impact of the APEC Trade Ministers agreement impact of the APEC Trade Ministers agreement is impact of the APEC Trade Ministers agreement is that impact of the APEC Trade Ministers agreement is that it impact of the APEC Trade Ministers agreement is that it will impact of the APEC Trade Ministers agreement is that it will make impact of the APEC Trade Ministers agreement is that it will make the agreement is that it will make the component agreement is that it will make the component parts agreement is that it will make the component parts of agreement is that it will make the component parts of the agreement is that it will make the component parts of the supply agreement is that it will make the component parts of the supply chain component parts of the supply chain flow component parts of the supply chain flow more component parts of the supply chain flow more smoothly. component parts of the supply chain flow more smoothly. 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I understand for the likes of Pfizer vaccine some 286 the likes of Pfizer vaccine some 286 component the likes of Pfizer vaccine some 286 component parts the likes of Pfizer vaccine some 286 component parts are the likes of Pfizer vaccine some 286 component parts are sourced the likes of Pfizer vaccine some 286 component parts are sourced from component parts are sourced from over component parts are sourced from over 80 component parts are sourced from over 80 companies component parts are sourced from over 80 companies in component parts are sourced from over 80 companies in nearly component parts are sourced from over 80 companies in nearly 20 over 80 companies in nearly 20 countries. over 80 companies in nearly 20 countries. Anything over 80 companies in nearly 20 countries. Anything that over 80 companies in nearly 20 countries. Anything that makes over 80 companies in nearly 20 countries. Anything that makes the countries. Anything that makes the production countries. Anything that makes the production smoother countries. Anything that makes the production smoother and countries. Anything that makes the production smoother and easier countries. Anything that makes the production smoother and easier has production smoother and easier has to production smoother and easier has to be production smoother and easier has to be good production smoother and easier has to be good not production smoother and easier has to be good not only production smoother and easier has to be good not only for production smoother and easier has to be good not only for New production smoother and easier has to be good not only for New Zealand to be good not only for New Zealand but to be good not only for New Zealand but for to be good not only for New Zealand but for all to be good not only for New Zealand but for all APEC to be good not only for New Zealand but for all APEC members. to be good not only for New Zealand but for all APEC members. And to be good not only for New Zealand but for all APEC members. And those but for all APEC members. And those benefits but for all APEC members. And those benefits should but for all APEC members. And those benefits should flow but for all APEC members. And those benefits should flow through but for all APEC members. And those benefits should flow through into benefits should flow through into our benefits should flow through into our Pacific benefits should flow through into our Pacific neighbours benefits should flow through into our Pacific neighbours who benefits should flow through into our Pacific neighbours who we benefits should flow through into our Pacific neighbours who we are our Pacific neighbours who we are supporting. our Pacific neighbours who we are supporting. Mr our Pacific neighbours who we are supporting. Mr Speaker, our Pacific neighbours who we are supporting. Mr Speaker, no-one our Pacific neighbours who we are supporting. Mr Speaker, no-one is supporting. Mr Speaker, no-one is safe supporting. Mr Speaker, no-one is safe from supporting. Mr Speaker, no-one is safe from COVID-19 supporting. Mr Speaker, no-one is safe from COVID-19 until supporting. Mr Speaker, no-one is safe from COVID-19 until we supporting. Mr Speaker, no-one is safe from COVID-19 until we are supporting. Mr Speaker, no-one is safe from COVID-19 until we are all safe from COVID-19 until we are all safe. safe from COVID-19 until we are all safe. Supplementary. safe from COVID-19 until we are all safe. Supplementary. What safe from COVID-19 until we are all safe. Supplementary. What other safe. Supplementary. What other outcomes safe. Supplementary. What other outcomes did safe. Supplementary. What other outcomes did you safe. Supplementary. What other outcomes did you achieve safe. Supplementary. What other outcomes did you achieve from safe. Supplementary. What other outcomes did you achieve from the outcomes did you achieve from the APEC outcomes did you achieve from the APEC minister's outcomes did you achieve from the APEC minister's responsible outcomes did you achieve from the APEC minister's responsible for APEC minister's responsible for trade APEC minister's responsible for trade meeting? APEC minister's responsible for trade meeting? Mr APEC minister's responsible for trade meeting? Mr Speaker, APEC minister's responsible for trade meeting? Mr Speaker, for APEC minister's responsible for trade meeting? Mr Speaker, for the trade meeting? Mr Speaker, for the first trade meeting? Mr Speaker, for the first time trade meeting? Mr Speaker, for the first time in trade meeting? Mr Speaker, for the first time in memory, trade meeting? Mr Speaker, for the first time in memory, every trade meeting? Mr Speaker, for the first time in memory, every APEC first time in memory, every APEC economy first time in memory, every APEC economy was first time in memory, every APEC economy was represented first time in memory, every APEC economy was represented at economy was represented at ministerial economy was represented at ministerial level. economy was represented at ministerial level. Underscoring economy was represented at ministerial level. Underscoring the ministerial level. Underscoring the high ministerial level. Underscoring the high level ministerial level. Underscoring the high level of ministerial level. Underscoring the high level of political ministerial level. Underscoring the high level of political commitment high level of political commitment to high level of political commitment to these high level of political commitment to these ires. high level of political commitment to these ires. The high level of political commitment to these ires. The meeting high level of political commitment to these ires. The meeting was high level of political commitment to these ires. The meeting was also to these ires. The meeting was also enriched to these ires. The meeting was also enriched by to these ires. The meeting was also enriched by the to these ires. The meeting was also enriched by the presence to these ires. The meeting was also enriched by the presence of to these ires. The meeting was also enriched by the presence of the to these ires. The meeting was also enriched by the presence of the WTO enriched by the presence of the WTO Director-General. enriched by the presence of the WTO Director-General. Mr enriched by the presence of the WTO Director-General. Mr Speak enriched by the presence of the WTO Director-General. Mr Speak senior, Director-General. Mr Speak senior, we Director-General. Mr Speak senior, we were Director-General. Mr Speak senior, we were therefore Director-General. Mr Speak senior, we were therefore in Director-General. Mr Speak senior, we were therefore in a Director-General. Mr Speak senior, we were therefore in a strong we were therefore in a strong position we were therefore in a strong position to we were therefore in a strong position to discuss we were therefore in a strong position to discuss and we were therefore in a strong position to discuss and demonstrate position to discuss and demonstrate our position to discuss and demonstrate our collective position to discuss and demonstrate our collective support position to discuss and demonstrate our collective support for position to discuss and demonstrate our collective support for the position to discuss and demonstrate our collective support for the World our collective support for the World Health our collective support for the World Health Organization our collective support for the World Health Organization to our collective support for the World Health Organization to modernise Health Organization to modernise trade Health Organization to modernise trade -- Health Organization to modernise trade -- World Health Organization to modernise trade -- World Trade Health Organization to modernise trade -- World Trade Organisation Health Organization to modernise trade -- World Trade Organisation to trade -- World Trade Organisation to modern trade -- World Trade Organisation to modern trade trade -- World Trade Organisation to modern trade rules trade -- World Trade Organisation to modern trade rules for trade -- World Trade Organisation to modern trade rules for the trade -- World Trade Organisation to modern trade rules for the 21st modern trade rules for the 21st century. modern trade rules for the 21st century. We modern trade rules for the 21st century. We discussed modern trade rules for the 21st century. We discussed the modern trade rules for the 21st century. We discussed the important century. We discussed the important of century. We discussed the important of promoting century. We discussed the important of promoting economic century. We discussed the important of promoting economic policies century. We discussed the important of promoting economic policies and of promoting economic policies and growth of promoting economic policies and growth that of promoting economic policies and growth that contributed of promoting economic policies and growth that contributed to of promoting economic policies and growth that contributed to climate growth that contributed to climate change growth that contributed to climate change and growth that contributed to climate change and other growth that contributed to climate change and other serious change and other serious environmental change and other serious environmental challenges. change and other serious environmental challenges. Critically environmental challenges. Critically for environmental challenges. Critically for Aotearoa environmental challenges. Critically for Aotearoa New environmental challenges. Critically for Aotearoa New Zealand environmental challenges. Critically for Aotearoa New Zealand APEC for Aotearoa New Zealand APEC ministers for Aotearoa New Zealand APEC ministers also for Aotearoa New Zealand APEC ministers also took for Aotearoa New Zealand APEC ministers also took note for Aotearoa New Zealand APEC ministers also took note of for Aotearoa New Zealand APEC ministers also took note of the ministers also took note of the initiatives ministers also took note of the initiatives that ministers also took note of the initiatives that we ministers also took note of the initiatives that we have ministers also took note of the initiatives that we have been ministers also took note of the initiatives that we have been drive initiatives that we have been drive National initiatives that we have been drive National Government initiatives that we have been drive National Government APEC initiatives that we have been drive National Government APEC to initiatives that we have been drive National Government APEC to unlock National Government APEC to unlock the National Government APEC to unlock the economic National Government APEC to unlock the economic potential National Government APEC to unlock the economic potential of National Government APEC to unlock the economic potential of Indigenous the economic potential of Indigenous peoples. the economic potential of Indigenous peoples. Supplementary. the economic potential of Indigenous peoples. Supplementary. How the economic potential of Indigenous peoples. Supplementary. How does peoples. Supplementary. How does APEC peoples. Supplementary. How does APEC fit peoples. Supplementary. How does APEC fit into peoples. Supplementary. How does APEC fit into New peoples. Supplementary. How does APEC fit into New Zealand's peoples. Supplementary. How does APEC fit into New Zealand's trade APEC fit into New Zealand's trade recovery APEC fit into New Zealand's trade recovery strategy? APEC fit into New Zealand's trade recovery strategy? Mr APEC fit into New Zealand's trade recovery strategy? Mr Speaker, APEC fit into New Zealand's trade recovery strategy? Mr Speaker, the recovery strategy? Mr Speaker, the trade-led recovery strategy? Mr Speaker, the trade-led recovery recovery strategy? Mr Speaker, the trade-led recovery strategy recovery strategy? Mr Speaker, the trade-led recovery strategy launched trade-led recovery strategy launched by trade-led recovery strategy launched by ministers trade-led recovery strategy launched by ministers in trade-led recovery strategy launched by ministers in 2020 trade-led recovery strategy launched by ministers in 2020 supports trade-led recovery strategy launched by ministers in 2020 supports the by ministers in 2020 supports the government's by ministers in 2020 supports the government's wider by ministers in 2020 supports the government's wider 5-point by ministers in 2020 supports the government's wider 5-point recovery government's wider 5-point recovery plan. government's wider 5-point recovery plan. We government's wider 5-point recovery plan. We find government's wider 5-point recovery plan. We find ourselves government's wider 5-point recovery plan. We find ourselves in government's wider 5-point recovery plan. We find ourselves in an plan. We find ourselves in an increasingly plan. We find ourselves in an increasingly difficult plan. We find ourselves in an increasingly difficult trading increasingly difficult trading environment. increasingly difficult trading environment. Globely increasingly difficult trading environment. Globely we increasingly difficult trading environment. Globely we are increasingly difficult trading environment. Globely we are in increasingly difficult trading environment. Globely we are in a environment. Globely we are in a time environment. Globely we are in a time of environment. Globely we are in a time of international environment. Globely we are in a time of international turmoil environment. Globely we are in a time of international turmoil and time of international turmoil and geopolitical time of international turmoil and geopolitical uncertainty. time of international turmoil and geopolitical uncertainty. Global geopolitical uncertainty. Global supply geopolitical uncertainty. Global supply chains geopolitical uncertainty. Global supply chains are geopolitical uncertainty. Global supply chains are disrupted geopolitical uncertainty. Global supply chains are disrupted and geopolitical uncertainty. Global supply chains are disrupted and our supply chains are disrupted and our exporters supply chains are disrupted and our exporters are supply chains are disrupted and our exporters are facing supply chains are disrupted and our exporters are facing rising supply chains are disrupted and our exporters are facing rising offshore exporters are facing rising offshore trade exporters are facing rising offshore trade barriers exporters are facing rising offshore trade barriers and exporters are facing rising offshore trade barriers and subsidies. exporters are facing rising offshore trade barriers and subsidies. It exporters are facing rising offshore trade barriers and subsidies. It is trade barriers and subsidies. It is for trade barriers and subsidies. It is for this trade barriers and subsidies. It is for this reason trade barriers and subsidies. It is for this reason that trade barriers and subsidies. It is for this reason that the trade barriers and subsidies. It is for this reason that the government for this reason that the government is for this reason that the government is implementing for this reason that the government is implementing the for this reason that the government is implementing the trade-led is implementing the trade-led recovery is implementing the trade-led recovery strategy. is implementing the trade-led recovery strategy. The is implementing the trade-led recovery strategy. The strategy recovery strategy. The strategy includes recovery strategy. The strategy includes 41 recovery strategy. The strategy includes 41 actions recovery strategy. The strategy includes 41 actions delivered recovery strategy. The strategy includes 41 actions delivered by recovery strategy. The strategy includes 41 actions delivered by 11 includes 41 actions delivered by 11 agencies includes 41 actions delivered by 11 agencies to includes 41 actions delivered by 11 agencies to support includes 41 actions delivered by 11 agencies to support exporters. includes 41 actions delivered by 11 agencies to support exporters. APEC agencies to support exporters. APEC is agencies to support exporters. APEC is a agencies to support exporters. APEC is a key agencies to support exporters. APEC is a key deliverable agencies to support exporters. APEC is a key deliverable of agencies to support exporters. APEC is a key deliverable of the agencies to support exporters. APEC is a key deliverable of the strategy is a key deliverable of the strategy as is a key deliverable of the strategy as part is a key deliverable of the strategy as part of is a key deliverable of the strategy as part of evidents is a key deliverable of the strategy as part of evidents to is a key deliverable of the strategy as part of evidents to reinvigorate as part of evidents to reinvigorate trade as part of evidents to reinvigorate trade architecture as part of evidents to reinvigorate trade architecture and as part of evidents to reinvigorate trade architecture and global trade architecture and global economic trade architecture and global economic institutions. trade architecture and global economic institutions. In trade architecture and global economic institutions. In the trade architecture and global economic institutions. In the face economic institutions. In the face of economic institutions. In the face of concerning economic institutions. In the face of concerning global economic institutions. In the face of concerning global trends economic institutions. In the face of concerning global trends we economic institutions. In the face of concerning global trends we are of concerning global trends we are looking of concerning global trends we are looking to of concerning global trends we are looking to use of concerning global trends we are looking to use APEC of concerning global trends we are looking to use APEC to of concerning global trends we are looking to use APEC to support of concerning global trends we are looking to use APEC to support open looking to use APEC to support open markets, looking to use APEC to support open markets, resist looking to use APEC to support open markets, resist protectionism looking to use APEC to support open markets, resist protectionism and markets, resist protectionism and generate markets, resist protectionism and generate sustainable markets, resist protectionism and generate sustainable growth. generate sustainable growth. Question generate sustainable growth. Question No. generate sustainable growth. Question No. 8, generate sustainable growth. Question No. 8, Nicola generate sustainable growth. Question No. 8, Nicola Willis. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Housing: My question is to the Minister of Housing: Does My question is to the Minister of Housing: Does she My question is to the Minister of Housing: Does she stand My question is to the Minister of Housing: Does she stand by My question is to the Minister of Housing: Does she stand by her Housing: Does she stand by her statement Housing: Does she stand by her statement that Housing: Does she stand by her statement that the Housing: Does she stand by her statement that the Government Housing: Does she stand by her statement that the Government has statement that the Government has "increased statement that the Government has "increased the statement that the Government has "increased the public statement that the Government has "increased the public housing statement that the Government has "increased the public housing stock "increased the public housing stock by "increased the public housing stock by 7,671 "increased the public housing stock by 7,671 since "increased the public housing stock by 7,671 since we "increased the public housing stock by 7,671 since we came "increased the public housing stock by 7,671 since we came into by 7,671 since we came into Government by 7,671 since we came into Government in by 7,671 since we came into Government in 2017" by 7,671 since we came into Government in 2017" - by 7,671 since we came into Government in 2017" - if by 7,671 since we came into Government in 2017" - if so, by 7,671 since we came into Government in 2017" - if so, why Government in 2017" - if so, why does Government in 2017" - if so, why does the Government in 2017" - if so, why does the most Government in 2017" - if so, why does the most recent Government in 2017" - if so, why does the most recent Kainga Government in 2017" - if so, why does the most recent Kainga Ora does the most recent Kainga Ora managed does the most recent Kainga Ora managed stock does the most recent Kainga Ora managed stock quarterly does the most recent Kainga Ora managed stock quarterly report does the most recent Kainga Ora managed stock quarterly report show managed stock quarterly report show that managed stock quarterly report show that total managed stock quarterly report show that total managed managed stock quarterly report show that total managed stock managed stock quarterly report show that total managed stock is managed stock quarterly report show that total managed stock is only that total managed stock is only 4,649 that total managed stock is only 4,649 more that total managed stock is only 4,649 more than that total managed stock is only 4,649 more than reported that total managed stock is only 4,649 more than reported by that total managed stock is only 4,649 more than reported by Housing 4,649 more than reported by Housing New 4,649 more than reported by Housing New Zealand 4,649 more than reported by Housing New Zealand in 4,649 more than reported by Housing New Zealand in its 4,649 more than reported by Housing New Zealand in its September 4,649 more than reported by Housing New Zealand in its September 2017 New Zealand in its September 2017 managed New Zealand in its September 2017 managed stock New Zealand in its September 2017 managed stock quarterly New Zealand in its September 2017 managed stock quarterly report? The The Hon The Hon Megan The Hon Megan Woods. The Hon Megan Woods. Yes, The Hon Megan Woods. Yes, we The Hon Megan Woods. Yes, we have The Hon Megan Woods. Yes, we have increased The Hon Megan Woods. Yes, we have increased the The Hon Megan Woods. Yes, we have increased the public The Hon Megan Woods. Yes, we have increased the public housing The Hon Megan Woods. Yes, we have increased the public housing stock increased the public housing stock by increased the public housing stock by 7,671 increased the public housing stock by 7,671 since increased the public housing stock by 7,671 since we increased the public housing stock by 7,671 since we came increased the public housing stock by 7,671 since we came into by 7,671 since we came into government. by 7,671 since we came into government. I by 7,671 since we came into government. I can by 7,671 since we came into government. I can also by 7,671 since we came into government. I can also confirm by 7,671 since we came into government. I can also confirm that government. I can also confirm that since government. I can also confirm that since coming government. I can also confirm that since coming into government. I can also confirm that since coming into government government. 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I would know Kainga stock that is increased by 4 649 homes. I would know Kainga Ora's homes. I would know Kainga Ora's managed homes. I would know Kainga Ora's managed stock homes. I would know Kainga Ora's managed stock is homes. I would know Kainga Ora's managed stock is different homes. I would know Kainga Ora's managed stock is different to homes. I would know Kainga Ora's managed stock is different to the managed stock is different to the public managed stock is different to the public housing managed stock is different to the public housing stock. managed stock is different to the public housing stock. Kainga managed stock is different to the public housing stock. Kainga Ora's public housing stock. Kainga Ora's managed public housing stock. Kainga Ora's managed stock public housing stock. Kainga Ora's managed stock is public housing stock. Kainga Ora's managed stock is inclusive public housing stock. Kainga Ora's managed stock is inclusive of public housing stock. Kainga Ora's managed stock is inclusive of state managed stock is inclusive of state houses, managed stock is inclusive of state houses, eligible managed stock is inclusive of state houses, eligible for managed stock is inclusive of state houses, eligible for the managed stock is inclusive of state houses, eligible for the IRRS houses, eligible for the IRRS funding houses, eligible for the IRRS funding alongside houses, eligible for the IRRS funding alongside community houses, eligible for the IRRS funding alongside community group funding alongside community group housing funding alongside community group housing transitional funding alongside community group housing transitional housing funding alongside community group housing transitional housing and housing transitional housing and that housing transitional housing and that is housing transitional housing and that is owned housing transitional housing and that is owned by housing transitional housing and that is owned by Kainga housing transitional housing and that is owned by Kainga Ora, housing transitional housing and that is owned by Kainga Ora, and housing transitional housing and that is owned by Kainga Ora, and the that is owned by Kainga Ora, and the 902 that is owned by Kainga Ora, and the 902 houses that is owned by Kainga Ora, and the 902 houses leased. that is owned by Kainga Ora, and the 902 houses leased. Public that is owned by Kainga Ora, and the 902 houses leased. Public housing 902 houses leased. Public housing stock, 902 houses leased. Public housing stock, on 902 houses leased. Public housing stock, on the 902 houses leased. Public housing stock, on the other 902 houses leased. Public housing stock, on the other hand, 902 houses leased. Public housing stock, on the other hand, includes stock, on the other hand, includes all stock, on the other hand, includes all Kainga stock, on the other hand, includes all Kainga Ora stock, on the other hand, includes all Kainga Ora state stock, on the other hand, includes all Kainga Ora state housing stock, on the other hand, includes all Kainga Ora state housing stock all Kainga Ora state housing stock as all Kainga Ora state housing stock as well all Kainga Ora state housing stock as well as all Kainga Ora state housing stock as well as those all Kainga Ora state housing stock as well as those owned all Kainga Ora state housing stock as well as those owned or all Kainga Ora state housing stock as well as those owned or provided as well as those owned or provided by as well as those owned or provided by community. as well as those owned or provided by community. Housing as well as those owned or provided by community. 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So the 7,671 figure I provide is the So the 7,671 figure I provide is the change So the 7,671 figure I provide is the change in So the 7,671 figure I provide is the change in the So the 7,671 figure I provide is the change in the number So the 7,671 figure I provide is the change in the number of So the 7,671 figure I provide is the change in the number of public change in the number of public housing change in the number of public housing places change in the number of public housing places between change in the number of public housing places between 1 change in the number of public housing places between 1 November housing places between 1 November 2017 housing places between 1 November 2017 and housing places between 1 November 2017 and 30 housing places between 1 November 2017 and 30 April housing places between 1 November 2017 and 30 April 2021. housing places between 1 November 2017 and 30 April 2021. As housing places between 1 November 2017 and 30 April 2021. As at housing places between 1 November 2017 and 30 April 2021. As at 1 2017 and 30 April 2021. As at 1 November 2017 and 30 April 2021. As at 1 November 2015, 2017 and 30 April 2021. As at 1 November 2015, there 2017 and 30 April 2021. As at 1 November 2015, there was 2017 and 30 April 2021. As at 1 November 2015, there was a 2017 and 30 April 2021. As at 1 November 2015, there was a total 2017 and 30 April 2021. As at 1 November 2015, there was a total of November 2015, there was a total of 66,216 November 2015, there was a total of 66,216 public November 2015, there was a total of 66,216 public housing November 2015, there was a total of 66,216 public housing places November 2015, there was a total of 66,216 public housing places -- 66,216 public housing places -- 2015. 66,216 public housing places -- 2015. At 66,216 public housing places -- 2015. At 30 66,216 public housing places -- 2015. At 30 April 66,216 public housing places -- 2015. At 30 April 2021. 66,216 public housing places -- 2015. At 30 April 2021. There 66,216 public housing places -- 2015. At 30 April 2021. There was 66,216 public housing places -- 2015. At 30 April 2021. There was a 2015. At 30 April 2021. There was a total 2015. At 30 April 2021. There was a total of 2015. At 30 April 2021. There was a total of 73,878 2015. At 30 April 2021. There was a total of 73,878 public 2015. At 30 April 2021. There was a total of 73,878 public housing total of 73,878 public housing places, total of 73,878 public housing places, a total of 73,878 public housing places, a net total of 73,878 public housing places, a net change total of 73,878 public housing places, a net change of total of 73,878 public housing places, a net change of 7,671 places, a net change of 7,671 places. places, a net change of 7,671 places. I places, a net change of 7,671 places. I note places, a net change of 7,671 places. I note that places, a net change of 7,671 places. I note that we places, a net change of 7,671 places. I note that we have places, a net change of 7,671 places. I note that we have used places, a net change of 7,671 places. I note that we have used the places. I note that we have used the smaller places. I note that we have used the smaller of places. I note that we have used the smaller of two places. I note that we have used the smaller of two figures. places. I note that we have used the smaller of two figures. If places. I note that we have used the smaller of two figures. If we places. I note that we have used the smaller of two figures. If we had smaller of two figures. If we had sum smaller of two figures. If we had sum -- smaller of two figures. If we had sum -- the smaller of two figures. If we had sum -- the sum smaller of two figures. If we had sum -- the sum the smaller of two figures. If we had sum -- the sum the two smaller of two figures. If we had sum -- the sum the two members smaller of two figures. If we had sum -- the sum the two members were sum -- the sum the two members were talking sum -- the sum the two members were talking about sum -- the sum the two members were talking about that sum -- the sum the two members were talking about that would sum -- the sum the two members were talking about that would have sum -- the sum the two members were talking about that would have been sum -- the sum the two members were talking about that would have been a talking about that would have been a net talking about that would have been a net change talking about that would have been a net change of talking about that would have been a net change of 9,700 talking about that would have been a net change of 9,700 in talking about that would have been a net change of 9,700 in 7 talking about that would have been a net change of 9,700 in 7 -- talking about that would have been a net change of 9,700 in 7 -- 9,773 net change of 9,700 in 7 -- 9,773 houses. net change of 9,700 in 7 -- 9,773 houses. That's net change of 9,700 in 7 -- 9,773 houses. That's something net change of 9,700 in 7 -- 9,773 houses. That's something the houses. That's something the minister houses. That's something the minister is houses. That's something the minister is not houses. That's something the minister is not responsible houses. That's something the minister is not responsible for. houses. That's something the minister is not responsible for. Can minister is not responsible for. Can the minister is not responsible for. Can the minister minister is not responsible for. Can the minister simply minister is not responsible for. Can the minister simply confirm minister is not responsible for. Can the minister simply confirm that the minister simply confirm that according the minister simply confirm that according to the minister simply confirm that according to reports the minister simply confirm that according to reports published the minister simply confirm that according to reports published by according to reports published by Housing according to reports published by Housing New according to reports published by Housing New Zealand according to reports published by Housing New Zealand and according to reports published by Housing New Zealand and Kainga according to reports published by Housing New Zealand and Kainga Ora, Housing New Zealand and Kainga Ora, the Housing New Zealand and Kainga Ora, the number Housing New Zealand and Kainga Ora, the number of Housing New Zealand and Kainga Ora, the number of state Housing New Zealand and Kainga Ora, the number of state rentals Housing New Zealand and Kainga Ora, the number of state rentals in the number of state rentals in September the number of state rentals in September 2017 the number of state rentals in September 2017 was the number of state rentals in September 2017 was 61,323 the number of state rentals in September 2017 was 61,323 and the number of state rentals in September 2017 was 61,323 and as the number of state rentals in September 2017 was 61,323 and as of September 2017 was 61,323 and as of March September 2017 was 61,323 and as of March this September 2017 was 61,323 and as of March this year September 2017 was 61,323 and as of March this year that September 2017 was 61,323 and as of March this year that number September 2017 was 61,323 and as of March this year that number is March this year that number is 64,106, March this year that number is 64,106, a March this year that number is 64,106, a difference March this year that number is 64,106, a difference of March this year that number is 64,106, a difference of just March this year that number is 64,106, a difference of just 2,783 64,106, a difference of just 2,783 and 64,106, a difference of just 2,783 and how 64,106, a difference of just 2,783 and how can 64,106, a difference of just 2,783 and how can she 64,106, a difference of just 2,783 and how can she possibly 64,106, a difference of just 2,783 and how can she possibly reconcile and how can she possibly reconcile those and how can she possibly reconcile those facts and how can she possibly reconcile those facts with and how can she possibly reconcile those facts with her and how can she possibly reconcile those facts with her exaggerated those facts with her exaggerated claims those facts with her exaggerated claims of those facts with her exaggerated claims of additional those facts with her exaggerated claims of additional houses? those facts with her exaggerated claims of additional houses? Order! claims of additional houses? Order! No. claims of additional houses? Order! No. The claims of additional houses? Order! No. The member claims of additional houses? Order! No. The member will claims of additional houses? Order! No. The member will resume claims of additional houses? Order! No. The member will resume her claims of additional houses? Order! No. The member will resume her seat. No. The member will resume her seat. I'm No. The member will resume her seat. I'm going No. The member will resume her seat. I'm going to No. The member will resume her seat. I'm going to let No. The member will resume her seat. I'm going to let the No. The member will resume her seat. I'm going to let the member No. The member will resume her seat. I'm going to let the member ask No. The member will resume her seat. 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Can the minister confirm that according to minister confirm that according to reports minister confirm that according to reports published minister confirm that according to reports published by minister confirm that according to reports published by Housing minister confirm that according to reports published by Housing New reports published by Housing New Zealand reports published by Housing New Zealand and reports published by Housing New Zealand and Kainga reports published by Housing New Zealand and Kainga Ora, reports published by Housing New Zealand and Kainga Ora, the reports published by Housing New Zealand and Kainga Ora, the number Zealand and Kainga Ora, the number of Zealand and Kainga Ora, the number of state Zealand and Kainga Ora, the number of state rentals Zealand and Kainga Ora, the number of state rentals in Zealand and Kainga Ora, the number of state rentals in September Zealand and Kainga Ora, the number of state rentals in September 2015 of state rentals in September 2015 -- of state rentals in September 2015 -- 2015 of state rentals in September 2015 -- 2015 was of state rentals in September 2015 -- 2015 was 61 of state rentals in September 2015 -- 2015 was 61 -- of state rentals in September 2015 -- 2015 was 61 -- 71,323. of state rentals in September 2015 -- 2015 was 61 -- 71,323. this of state rentals in September 2015 -- 2015 was 61 -- 71,323. this year, -- 2015 was 61 -- 71,323. this year, that -- 2015 was 61 -- 71,323. this year, that number -- 2015 was 61 -- 71,323. this year, that number is -- 2015 was 61 -- 71,323. this year, that number is just -- 2015 was 61 -- 71,323. this year, that number is just 64,106, -- 2015 was 61 -- 71,323. this year, that number is just 64,106, a that number is just 64,106, a difference that number is just 64,106, a difference of that number is just 64,106, a difference of 2,783? that number is just 64,106, a difference of 2,783? 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Can she confirm that she signed off a generation. Supplementary. Can she confirm that she signed off on confirm that she signed off on Kainga confirm that she signed off on Kainga Ora confirm that she signed off on Kainga Ora targeting confirm that she signed off on Kainga Ora targeting the confirm that she signed off on Kainga Ora targeting the sale confirm that she signed off on Kainga Ora targeting the sale of confirm that she signed off on Kainga Ora targeting the sale of $37 Kainga Ora targeting the sale of $37 million Kainga Ora targeting the sale of $37 million worth Kainga Ora targeting the sale of $37 million worth of Kainga Ora targeting the sale of $37 million worth of State Kainga Ora targeting the sale of $37 million worth of State Houses Kainga Ora targeting the sale of $37 million worth of State Houses in Kainga Ora targeting the sale of $37 million worth of State Houses in the million worth of State Houses in the 2020-2021 million worth of State Houses in the 2020-2021 financial million worth of State Houses in the 2020-2021 financial year? million worth of State Houses in the 2020-2021 financial year? And million worth of State Houses in the 2020-2021 financial year? And can 2020-2021 financial year? And can she 2020-2021 financial year? And can she update 2020-2021 financial year? And can she update the 2020-2021 financial year? And can she update the house 2020-2021 financial year? And can she update the house on 2020-2021 financial year? And can she update the house on whether 2020-2021 financial year? And can she update the house on whether they she update the house on whether they met she update the house on whether they met their she update the house on whether they met their target? she update the house on whether they met their target? Mr she update the house on whether they met their target? Mr Speaker, she update the house on whether they met their target? Mr Speaker, we've met their target? Mr Speaker, we've been met their target? Mr Speaker, we've been through met their target? Mr Speaker, we've been through this met their target? Mr Speaker, we've been through this many met their target? Mr Speaker, we've been through this many times met their target? Mr Speaker, we've been through this many times in met their target? Mr Speaker, we've been through this many times in this been through this many times in this House. been through this many times in this House. The been through this many times in this House. The Kainga been through this many times in this House. The Kainga Ora been through this many times in this House. The Kainga Ora advises been through this many times in this House. The Kainga Ora advises me House. The Kainga Ora advises me that House. The Kainga Ora advises me that the House. The Kainga Ora advises me that the total House. The Kainga Ora advises me that the total value House. The Kainga Ora advises me that the total value of House. The Kainga Ora advises me that the total value of public that the total value of public housing that the total value of public housing properties... that the total value of public housing properties... Order. that the total value of public housing properties... Order. The housing properties... Order. The member's housing properties... Order. The member's colleague housing properties... Order. The member's colleague asked housing properties... Order. The member's colleague asked a housing properties... Order. The member's colleague asked a question. member's colleague asked a question. Alright? member's colleague asked a question. Alright? I'm member's colleague asked a question. Alright? I'm assuming member's colleague asked a question. Alright? I'm assuming the member's colleague asked a question. Alright? I'm assuming the point member's colleague asked a question. Alright? I'm assuming the point of Alright? I'm assuming the point of it Alright? 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Mr Speaker, I am advised that from members on my left. Mr Speaker, I am advised that between from members on my left. Mr Speaker, I am advised that between 1 I am advised that between 1 September I am advised that between 1 September 2017 I am advised that between 1 September 2017 until I am advised that between 1 September 2017 until 30 I am advised that between 1 September 2017 until 30 November September 2017 until 30 November 2020, September 2017 until 30 November 2020, there September 2017 until 30 November 2020, there was September 2017 until 30 November 2020, there was 191 September 2017 until 30 November 2020, there was 191 State September 2017 until 30 November 2020, there was 191 State Houses 2020, there was 191 State Houses that 2020, there was 191 State Houses that were 2020, there was 191 State Houses that were sold 2020, there was 191 State Houses that were sold over 2020, there was 191 State Houses that were sold over this 2020, there was 191 State Houses that were sold over this period. that were sold over this period. This that were sold over this period. This is that were sold over this period. This is because that were sold over this period. This is because they that were sold over this period. This is because they are that were sold over this period. This is because they are homes that were sold over this period. This is because they are homes that This is because they are homes that are This is because they are homes that are no This is because they are homes that are no longer This is because they are homes that are no longer fit This is because they are homes that are no longer fit for This is because they are homes that are no longer fit for purpose This is because they are homes that are no longer fit for purpose and This is because they are homes that are no longer fit for purpose and is are no longer fit for purpose and is a are no longer fit for purpose and is a tiny are no longer fit for purpose and is a tiny fraction. are no longer fit for purpose and is a tiny fraction. 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I would note that between the I would note that between the financial I would note that between the financial years I would note that between the financial years 2014/15 I would note that between the financial years 2014/15 and I would note that between the financial years 2014/15 and 2016/17, financial years 2014/15 and 2016/17, 1,300 financial years 2014/15 and 2016/17, 1,300 State financial years 2014/15 and 2016/17, 1,300 State Houses financial years 2014/15 and 2016/17, 1,300 State Houses were financial years 2014/15 and 2016/17, 1,300 State Houses were sold financial years 2014/15 and 2016/17, 1,300 State Houses were sold for financial years 2014/15 and 2016/17, 1,300 State Houses were sold for a 1,300 State Houses were sold for a total 1,300 State Houses were sold for a total of 1,300 State Houses were sold for a total of over 1,300 State Houses were sold for a total of over $204 1,300 State Houses were sold for a total of over $204 million. total of over $204 million. 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Can the Minister confirm that the government has confirm that the government has demolished confirm that the government has demolished more confirm that the government has demolished more than confirm that the government has demolished more than 2,000 confirm that the government has demolished more than 2,000 State demolished more than 2,000 State Houses demolished more than 2,000 State Houses and demolished more than 2,000 State Houses and plans demolished more than 2,000 State Houses and plans to demolished more than 2,000 State Houses and plans to demolish demolished more than 2,000 State Houses and plans to demolish at Houses and plans to demolish at least Houses and plans to demolish at least 3,000 Houses and plans to demolish at least 3,000 more Houses and plans to demolish at least 3,000 more in Houses and plans to demolish at least 3,000 more in the Houses and plans to demolish at least 3,000 more in the next Houses and plans to demolish at least 3,000 more in the next three least 3,000 more in the next three years? least 3,000 more in the next three years? 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That's because this is a Government that is because this is a Government that is investing because this is a Government that is investing in because this is a Government that is investing in the because this is a Government that is investing in the redevelopment because this is a Government that is investing in the redevelopment of investing in the redevelopment of those investing in the redevelopment of those State investing in the redevelopment of those State Houses. investing in the redevelopment of those State Houses. We investing in the redevelopment of those State Houses. We are investing in the redevelopment of those State Houses. We are a those State Houses. We are a government those State Houses. We are a government that those State Houses. We are a government that has those State Houses. We are a government that has actually those State Houses. 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Can she confirm the interjections from my right. Can she confirm that the interjections from my right. Can she confirm that this the interjections from my right. Can she confirm that this year's the interjections from my right. Can she confirm that this year's housing she confirm that this year's housing budget she confirm that this year's housing budget puts she confirm that this year's housing budget puts aside she confirm that this year's housing budget puts aside $360 she confirm that this year's housing budget puts aside $360 million budget puts aside $360 million specifically budget puts aside $360 million specifically "to budget puts aside $360 million specifically "to provide budget puts aside $360 million specifically "to provide for specifically "to provide for expenses specifically "to provide for expenses incurred specifically "to provide for expenses incurred as specifically "to provide for expenses incurred as part specifically "to provide for expenses incurred as part of specifically "to provide for expenses incurred as part of the expenses incurred as part of the sale expenses incurred as part of the sale of expenses incurred as part of the sale of land expenses incurred as part of the sale of land and expenses incurred as part of the sale of land and dwellings"? expenses incurred as part of the sale of land and dwellings"? 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Can continue to farm or run a horticultural operation. Can I continue to farm or run a horticultural operation. Can I say horticultural operation. Can I say that horticultural operation. Can I say that councils horticultural operation. Can I say that councils around horticultural operation. Can I say that councils around the horticultural operation. Can I say that councils around the country that councils around the country have that councils around the country have taken that councils around the country have taken different that councils around the country have taken different approaches that councils around the country have taken different approaches to have taken different approaches to how have taken different approaches to how they have taken different approaches to how they identify have taken different approaches to how they identify and have taken different approaches to how they identify and notify. have taken different approaches to how they identify and notify. 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That's one of the very issues we're trying to address so that the we're trying to address so that the obligation we're trying to address so that the obligation laid we're trying to address so that the obligation laid down we're trying to address so that the obligation laid down in we're trying to address so that the obligation laid down in the we're trying to address so that the obligation laid down in the Resource obligation laid down in the Resource Management obligation laid down in the Resource Management Act obligation laid down in the Resource Management Act of obligation laid down in the Resource Management Act of 1991, obligation laid down in the Resource Management Act of 1991, that Management Act of 1991, that obligation Management Act of 1991, that obligation to Management Act of 1991, that obligation to protect Management Act of 1991, that obligation to protect these Management Act of 1991, that obligation to protect these areas obligation to protect these areas has obligation to protect these areas has not obligation to protect these areas has not been obligation to protect these areas has not been implemented obligation to protect these areas has not been implemented by obligation to protect these areas has not been implemented by the obligation to protect these areas has not been implemented by the vast has not been implemented by the vast majority has not been implemented by the vast majority of has not been implemented by the vast majority of councils has not been implemented by the vast majority of councils around has not been implemented by the vast majority of councils around the majority of councils around the country majority of councils around the country and majority of councils around the country and that's majority of councils around the country and that's what majority of councils around the country and that's what the country and that's what the Government country and that's what the Government is country and that's what the Government is taking country and that's what the Government is taking action country and that's what the Government is taking action on. country and that's what the Government is taking action on. Hon Government is taking action on. Hon David Government is taking action on. Hon David Bennett. Government is taking action on. Hon David Bennett. Will Government is taking action on. Hon David Bennett. Will he Government is taking action on. Hon David Bennett. Will he confirm Government is taking action on. Hon David Bennett. Will he confirm that David Bennett. Will he confirm that there David Bennett. Will he confirm that there could David Bennett. Will he confirm that there could be David Bennett. Will he confirm that there could be compensation David Bennett. Will he confirm that there could be compensation to there could be compensation to farmers? there could be compensation to farmers? What there could be compensation to farmers? What I there could be compensation to farmers? What I said there could be compensation to farmers? What I said at there could be compensation to farmers? What I said at the there could be compensation to farmers? What I said at the select farmers? What I said at the select committee, farmers? What I said at the select committee, if farmers? What I said at the select committee, if there's farmers? What I said at the select committee, if there's a farmers? What I said at the select committee, if there's a proven farmers? What I said at the select committee, if there's a proven loss committee, if there's a proven loss of committee, if there's a proven loss of value, committee, if there's a proven loss of value, then committee, if there's a proven loss of value, then discussion committee, if there's a proven loss of value, then discussion needs committee, if there's a proven loss of value, then discussion needs to of value, then discussion needs to occur of value, then discussion needs to occur to of value, then discussion needs to occur to ensure of value, then discussion needs to occur to ensure some of value, then discussion needs to occur to ensure some fairness. of value, then discussion needs to occur to ensure some fairness. There occur to ensure some fairness. There are occur to ensure some fairness. There are a occur to ensure some fairness. There are a number occur to ensure some fairness. There are a number of occur to ensure some fairness. There are a number of properties occur to ensure some fairness. There are a number of properties in occur to ensure some fairness. There are a number of properties in my are a number of properties in my particular are a number of properties in my particular patch are a number of properties in my particular patch and are a number of properties in my particular patch and all are a number of properties in my particular patch and all around are a number of properties in my particular patch and all around the particular patch and all around the country, particular patch and all around the country, where particular patch and all around the country, where that's particular patch and all around the country, where that's a particular patch and all around the country, where that's a fair country, where that's a fair discussion country, where that's a fair discussion that country, where that's a fair discussion that needs country, where that's a fair discussion that needs to country, where that's a fair discussion that needs to occur. discussion that needs to occur. There's discussion that needs to occur. There's no discussion that needs to occur. There's no pre-judged discussion that needs to occur. There's no pre-judged outcomes discussion that needs to occur. There's no pre-judged outcomes of There's no pre-judged outcomes of that. There's no pre-judged outcomes of that. Is There's no pre-judged outcomes of that. Is the There's no pre-judged outcomes of that. Is the Minister There's no pre-judged outcomes of that. Is the Minister satisfied There's no pre-judged outcomes of that. Is the Minister satisfied that that. Is the Minister satisfied that the that. Is the Minister satisfied that the policy that. Is the Minister satisfied that the policy statement that. Is the Minister satisfied that the policy statement for the policy statement for biodiversity the policy statement for biodiversity will the policy statement for biodiversity will ensure the policy statement for biodiversity will ensure councils' biodiversity will ensure councils' processes biodiversity will ensure councils' processes involve biodiversity will ensure councils' processes involve meaningful processes involve meaningful engagement processes involve meaningful engagement with processes involve meaningful engagement with Maori? processes involve meaningful engagement with Maori? In processes involve meaningful engagement with Maori? In summary, engagement with Maori? In summary, yes. engagement with Maori? In summary, yes. We engagement with Maori? In summary, yes. We have engagement with Maori? In summary, yes. We have to engagement with Maori? In summary, yes. We have to ensure engagement with Maori? In summary, yes. We have to ensure that engagement with Maori? In summary, yes. We have to ensure that there's yes. We have to ensure that there's proper yes. We have to ensure that there's proper consultation yes. We have to ensure that there's proper consultation engagement yes. We have to ensure that there's proper consultation engagement with proper consultation engagement with iwi, proper consultation engagement with iwi, with proper consultation engagement with iwi, with land-owners proper consultation engagement with iwi, with land-owners and proper consultation engagement with iwi, with land-owners and that's proper consultation engagement with iwi, with land-owners and that's the iwi, with land-owners and that's the process iwi, with land-owners and that's the process we're iwi, with land-owners and that's the process we're working iwi, with land-owners and that's the process we're working through. process we're working through. Supplementary. process we're working through. Supplementary. Will process we're working through. Supplementary. Will he process we're working through. Supplementary. Will he advocate, process we're working through. Supplementary. Will he advocate, as Supplementary. Will he advocate, as Minister Supplementary. Will he advocate, as Minister for Supplementary. Will he advocate, as Minister for Rural Supplementary. Will he advocate, as Minister for Rural Communities, Supplementary. Will he advocate, as Minister for Rural Communities, for Minister for Rural Communities, for compensation Minister for Rural Communities, for compensation for Minister for Rural Communities, for compensation for farmers, Minister for Rural Communities, for compensation for farmers, for Minister for Rural Communities, for compensation for farmers, for any compensation for farmers, for any loss compensation for farmers, for any loss of compensation for farmers, for any loss of use compensation for farmers, for any loss of use of compensation for farmers, for any loss of use of their compensation for farmers, for any loss of use of their land compensation for farmers, for any loss of use of their land from loss of use of their land from significant loss of use of their land from significant natural loss of use of their land from significant natural areas? loss of use of their land from significant natural areas? As loss of use of their land from significant natural areas? As I loss of use of their land from significant natural areas? As I said significant natural areas? As I said at significant natural areas? As I said at the significant natural areas? As I said at the select significant natural areas? As I said at the select committee, significant natural areas? As I said at the select committee, we significant natural areas? As I said at the select committee, we have significant natural areas? As I said at the select committee, we have to at the select committee, we have to ensure at the select committee, we have to ensure fairness at the select committee, we have to ensure fairness in at the select committee, we have to ensure fairness in this at the select committee, we have to ensure fairness in this process. ensure fairness in this process. There's ensure fairness in this process. There's a ensure fairness in this process. There's a lot ensure fairness in this process. There's a lot of, ensure fairness in this process. There's a lot of, I ensure fairness in this process. There's a lot of, I guess, There's a lot of, I guess, subjective There's a lot of, I guess, subjective judgment There's a lot of, I guess, subjective judgment over There's a lot of, I guess, subjective judgment over valuations subjective judgment over valuations before subjective judgment over valuations before and subjective judgment over valuations before and after subjective judgment over valuations before and after and subjective judgment over valuations before and after and what subjective judgment over valuations before and after and what might subjective judgment over valuations before and after and what might be subjective judgment over valuations before and after and what might be a before and after and what might be a fair before and after and what might be a fair compensation before and after and what might be a fair compensation claim. before and after and what might be a fair compensation claim. Those fair compensation claim. Those things fair compensation claim. Those things we're fair compensation claim. Those things we're going fair compensation claim. Those things we're going to fair compensation claim. Those things we're going to work fair compensation claim. Those things we're going to work through things we're going to work through carefully. things we're going to work through carefully. Question things we're going to work through carefully. Question number things we're going to work through carefully. Question number 12. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Immigration: My question is to the Minister of Immigration: What My question is to the Minister of Immigration: What announcement My question is to the Minister of Immigration: What announcement has Immigration: What announcement has he Immigration: What announcement has he made Immigration: What announcement has he made about Immigration: What announcement has he made about work Immigration: What announcement has he made about work visas? The The Hon The Hon Kris The Hon Kris Faafoi. The Hon Kris Faafoi. This The Hon Kris Faafoi. This morning The Hon Kris Faafoi. This morning I The Hon Kris Faafoi. This morning I announced The Hon Kris Faafoi. This morning I announced changes The Hon Kris Faafoi. This morning I announced changes to The Hon Kris Faafoi. This morning I announced changes to onshore The Hon Kris Faafoi. This morning I announced changes to onshore visas announced changes to onshore visas to announced changes to onshore visas to provide announced changes to onshore visas to provide employers announced changes to onshore visas to provide employers and to provide employers and visa-holders to provide employers and visa-holders with to provide employers and visa-holders with more to provide employers and visa-holders with more certainty. visa-holders with more certainty. Around visa-holders with more certainty. Around 10,000 visa-holders with more certainty. Around 10,000 visa-holders visa-holders with more certainty. Around 10,000 visa-holders that visa-holders with more certainty. Around 10,000 visa-holders that were Around 10,000 visa-holders that were due Around 10,000 visa-holders that were due to Around 10,000 visa-holders that were due to expire Around 10,000 visa-holders that were due to expire between Around 10,000 visa-holders that were due to expire between June Around 10,000 visa-holders that were due to expire between June and due to expire between June and December due to expire between June and December will due to expire between June and December will now due to expire between June and December will now be due to expire between June and December will now be extended due to expire between June and December will now be extended for December will now be extended for another December will now be extended for another six December will now be extended for another six months December will now be extended for another six months to December will now be extended for another six months to manage December will now be extended for another six months to manage ongoing another six months to manage ongoing labour another six months to manage ongoing labour shortages another six months to manage ongoing labour shortages while another six months to manage ongoing labour shortages while COVID-19 labour shortages while COVID-19 border labour shortages while COVID-19 border restrictions labour shortages while COVID-19 border restrictions remain labour shortages while COVID-19 border restrictions remain in labour shortages while COVID-19 border restrictions remain in place. border restrictions remain in place. This border restrictions remain in place. This will border restrictions remain in place. This will provide border restrictions remain in place. This will provide employers border restrictions remain in place. This will provide employers with This will provide employers with assures This will provide employers with assures that This will provide employers with assures that they This will provide employers with assures that they continue This will provide employers with assures that they continue to This will provide employers with assures that they continue to access assures that they continue to access the assures that they continue to access the current assures that they continue to access the current onshore assures that they continue to access the current onshore work assures that they continue to access the current onshore work source assures that they continue to access the current onshore work source to the current onshore work source to help the current onshore work source to help fill the current onshore work source to help fill roles. the current onshore work source to help fill roles. How the current onshore work source to help fill roles. How will the current onshore work source to help fill roles. How will these help fill roles. How will these changes help fill roles. How will these changes provide help fill roles. How will these changes provide employers help fill roles. How will these changes provide employers with help fill roles. How will these changes provide employers with and changes provide employers with and visa-holders changes provide employers with and visa-holders with changes provide employers with and visa-holders with more changes provide employers with and visa-holders with more certainly. visa-holders with more certainly. These visa-holders with more certainly. These changes visa-holders with more certainly. These changes will visa-holders with more certainly. These changes will provide visa-holders with more certainly. These changes will provide certainty These changes will provide certainty to These changes will provide certainty to workers These changes will provide certainty to workers and These changes will provide certainty to workers and employers. These changes will provide certainty to workers and employers. Those to workers and employers. Those workers to workers and employers. Those workers with to workers and employers. Those workers with relevant to workers and employers. Those workers with relevant visa to workers and employers. Those workers with relevant visa can to workers and employers. Those workers with relevant visa can stay workers with relevant visa can stay and workers with relevant visa can stay and work workers with relevant visa can stay and work in workers with relevant visa can stay and work in New workers with relevant visa can stay and work in New Zealand workers with relevant visa can stay and work in New Zealand for workers with relevant visa can stay and work in New Zealand for the and work in New Zealand for the foreseeable and work in New Zealand for the foreseeable future. and work in New Zealand for the foreseeable future. We've and work in New Zealand for the foreseeable future. We've announced foreseeable future. We've announced one foreseeable future. We've announced one change foreseeable future. We've announced one change to foreseeable future. We've announced one change to conditions foreseeable future. We've announced one change to conditions to foreseeable future. We've announced one change to conditions to stage one change to conditions to stage our one change to conditions to stage our way one change to conditions to stage our way back one change to conditions to stage our way back to one change to conditions to stage our way back to pre-COVID one change to conditions to stage our way back to pre-COVID settings. our way back to pre-COVID settings. All our way back to pre-COVID settings. All workers our way back to pre-COVID settings. All workers have our way back to pre-COVID settings. All workers have been our way back to pre-COVID settings. All workers have been filling our way back to pre-COVID settings. All workers have been filling jobs All workers have been filling jobs since All workers have been filling jobs since our All workers have been filling jobs since our border All workers have been filling jobs since our border closed, All workers have been filling jobs since our border closed, which All workers have been filling jobs since our border closed, which have since our border closed, which have severely since our border closed, which have severely limited since our border closed, which have severely limited our since our border closed, which have severely limited our ability since our border closed, which have severely limited our ability to severely limited our ability to bring severely limited our ability to bring in severely limited our ability to bring in new severely limited our ability to bring in new tranches severely limited our ability to bring in new tranches of severely limited our ability to bring in new tranches of SSE bring in new tranches of SSE workers. bring in new tranches of SSE workers. Providing bring in new tranches of SSE workers. Providing this bring in new tranches of SSE workers. Providing this certainty workers. Providing this certainty now workers. Providing this certainty now will workers. Providing this certainty now will take workers. Providing this certainty now will take pressure workers. Providing this certainty now will take pressure off workers. Providing this certainty now will take pressure off the now will take pressure off the sectors now will take pressure off the sectors they're now will take pressure off the sectors they're working now will take pressure off the sectors they're working in. sectors they're working in. Supplementary. Supplementary. Why Supplementary. Why has Supplementary. Why has the Supplementary. Why has the Government Supplementary. Why has the Government taken Supplementary. Why has the Government taken this Why has the Government taken this action? Why has the Government taken this action? Mr Why has the Government taken this action? Mr Speaker, Why has the Government taken this action? Mr Speaker, the Why has the Government taken this action? Mr Speaker, the Government action? Mr Speaker, the Government has action? Mr Speaker, the Government has taken action? Mr Speaker, the Government has taken a action? Mr Speaker, the Government has taken a pragmatic action? Mr Speaker, the Government has taken a pragmatic approach action? Mr Speaker, the Government has taken a pragmatic approach to has taken a pragmatic approach to these has taken a pragmatic approach to these situations has taken a pragmatic approach to these situations to has taken a pragmatic approach to these situations to ensure has taken a pragmatic approach to these situations to ensure that has taken a pragmatic approach to these situations to ensure that we these situations to ensure that we are these situations to ensure that we are well these situations to ensure that we are well positioned these situations to ensure that we are well positioned for these situations to ensure that we are well positioned for the these situations to ensure that we are well positioned for the economic are well positioned for the economic recovery are well positioned for the economic recovery within are well positioned for the economic recovery within the are well positioned for the economic recovery within the limits are well positioned for the economic recovery within the limits that are well positioned for the economic recovery within the limits that our recovery within the limits that our border recovery within the limits that our border closures recovery within the limits that our border closures put recovery within the limits that our border closures put on recovery within the limits that our border closures put on us. recovery within the limits that our border closures put on us. While border closures put on us. While we're border closures put on us. While we're taking border closures put on us. While we're taking these border closures put on us. While we're taking these measures, border closures put on us. While we're taking these measures, in border closures put on us. While we're taking these measures, in the we're taking these measures, in the short we're taking these measures, in the short material we're taking these measures, in the short material we're we're taking these measures, in the short material we're consistently short material we're consistently encouraging short material we're consistently encouraging sectors short material we're consistently encouraging sectors and short material we're consistently encouraging sectors and employers short material we're consistently encouraging sectors and employers to encouraging sectors and employers to think encouraging sectors and employers to think about encouraging sectors and employers to think about how encouraging sectors and employers to think about how they encouraging sectors and employers to think about how they make encouraging sectors and employers to think about how they make the encouraging sectors and employers to think about how they make the shift think about how they make the shift work think about how they make the shift work and think about how they make the shift work and look think about how they make the shift work and look for think about how they make the shift work and look for ways think about how they make the shift work and look for ways to think about how they make the shift work and look for ways to recruit work and look for ways to recruit New work and look for ways to recruit New Zealanders work and look for ways to recruit New Zealanders before work and look for ways to recruit New Zealanders before turning work and look for ways to recruit New Zealanders before turning to New Zealanders before turning to temporary New Zealanders before turning to temporary migrant New Zealanders before turning to temporary migrant workers. temporary migrant workers. Supplementary temporary migrant workers. Supplementary question. temporary migrant workers. Supplementary question. How temporary migrant workers. Supplementary question. How does temporary migrant workers. Supplementary question. How does the Supplementary question. How does the Minister Supplementary question. How does the Minister explain Supplementary question. How does the Minister explain on Supplementary question. How does the Minister explain on the Supplementary question. How does the Minister explain on the one Supplementary question. How does the Minister explain on the one hand Minister explain on the one hand announcing Minister explain on the one hand announcing in Minister explain on the one hand announcing in his Minister explain on the one hand announcing in his immigration Minister explain on the one hand announcing in his immigration reset announcing in his immigration reset speech announcing in his immigration reset speech a announcing in his immigration reset speech a plan announcing in his immigration reset speech a plan to announcing in his immigration reset speech a plan to drastically announcing in his immigration reset speech a plan to drastically reduce speech a plan to drastically reduce our speech a plan to drastically reduce our reliance speech a plan to drastically reduce our reliance on speech a plan to drastically reduce our reliance on low speech a plan to drastically reduce our reliance on low and speech a plan to drastically reduce our reliance on low and mid-skilled our reliance on low and mid-skilled labour our reliance on low and mid-skilled labour and our reliance on low and mid-skilled labour and then our reliance on low and mid-skilled labour and then less our reliance on low and mid-skilled labour and then less than our reliance on low and mid-skilled labour and then less than a our reliance on low and mid-skilled labour and then less than a month labour and then less than a month later labour and then less than a month later extending labour and then less than a month later extending low-skilled labour and then less than a month later extending low-skilled work later extending low-skilled work visas later extending low-skilled work visas from later extending low-skilled work visas from six later extending low-skilled work visas from six to later extending low-skilled work visas from six to 12 later extending low-skilled work visas from six to 12 months. later extending low-skilled work visas from six to 12 months. Does later extending low-skilled work visas from six to 12 months. Does he visas from six to 12 months. Does he understand visas from six to 12 months. Does he understand that visas from six to 12 months. Does he understand that businesses visas from six to 12 months. Does he understand that businesses need understand that businesses need certainty, understand that businesses need certainty, not understand that businesses need certainty, not mixed understand that businesses need certainty, not mixed messages? understand that businesses need certainty, not mixed messages? The certainty, not mixed messages? The member certainty, not mixed messages? The member might certainty, not mixed messages? The member might know certainty, not mixed messages? The member might know that certainty, not mixed messages? The member might know that the certainty, not mixed messages? The member might know that the border certainty, not mixed messages? The member might know that the border is member might know that the border is closed member might know that the border is closed at member might know that the border is closed at the member might know that the border is closed at the moment member might know that the border is closed at the moment so member might know that the border is closed at the moment so in member might know that the border is closed at the moment so in order member might know that the border is closed at the moment so in order to closed at the moment so in order to assist closed at the moment so in order to assist businesses closed at the moment so in order to assist businesses deal closed at the moment so in order to assist businesses deal with assist businesses deal with short-term assist businesses deal with short-term shortages, assist businesses deal with short-term shortages, I assist businesses deal with short-term shortages, I think assist businesses deal with short-term shortages, I think it's short-term shortages, I think it's positive short-term shortages, I think it's positive that short-term shortages, I think it's positive that we short-term shortages, I think it's positive that we have short-term shortages, I think it's positive that we have extended positive that we have extended working positive that we have extended working holiday positive that we have extended working holiday visas. positive that we have extended working holiday visas. As positive that we have extended working holiday visas. As I positive that we have extended working holiday visas. As I said positive that we have extended working holiday visas. As I said at working holiday visas. As I said at the working holiday visas. As I said at the end working holiday visas. As I said at the end of working holiday visas. As I said at the end of my working holiday visas. As I said at the end of my previous working holiday visas. As I said at the end of my previous supplementary the end of my previous supplementary answer, the end of my previous supplementary answer, we've the end of my previous supplementary answer, we've also the end of my previous supplementary answer, we've also sent the end of my previous supplementary answer, we've also sent messages answer, we've also sent messages that answer, we've also sent messages that in answer, we've also sent messages that in the answer, we've also sent messages that in the long answer, we've also sent messages that in the long term answer, we've also sent messages that in the long term we answer, we've also sent messages that in the long term we should that in the long term we should learn that in the long term we should learn a that in the long term we should learn a lesson that in the long term we should learn a lesson from that in the long term we should learn a lesson from COVID that in the long term we should learn a lesson from COVID on that in the long term we should learn a lesson from COVID on those learn a lesson from COVID on those who learn a lesson from COVID on those who are learn a lesson from COVID on those who are facing learn a lesson from COVID on those who are facing shortages learn a lesson from COVID on those who are facing shortages from learn a lesson from COVID on those who are facing shortages from those who are facing shortages from those sectors who are facing shortages from those sectors to who are facing shortages from those sectors to look who are facing shortages from those sectors to look at