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Join the Seven Sharp team as they present the stories of the day from around New Zealand, live, five nights a week.

  • 1Group of Kiwis Launch International Petition to Make Four Day Workweek a Reality The proposal is endorsed by the likes of Sir Richard Branson.

  • 2Shipping Containers Celebrate their 50th Anniversary It might surprise many just how recent the invention is.

  • 3Science Reveals Fidgeting Isn’t Such a Bad Trait After All People who do it, probably don't even realise.

Primary Title
  • Seven Sharp
Date Broadcast
  • Tuesday 22 June 2021
Start Time
  • 19 : 00
Finish Time
  • 19 : 30
Duration
  • 30:00
Series
  • 2021
Episode
  • 96
Channel
  • TVNZ 1
Broadcaster
  • Television New Zealand
Programme Description
  • Join the Seven Sharp team as they present the stories of the day from around New Zealand, live, five nights a week.
Classification
  • Not Classified
Owning Collection
  • Chapman Archive
Broadcast Platform
  • Television
Languages
  • English
Captioning Languages
  • English
Captions
Live Broadcast
  • Yes
Rights Statement
  • Made for the University of Auckland's educational use as permitted by the Screenrights Licensing Agreement.
Hosts
  • Hillary Barry (Host)
  • Jeremy Wells (Host)
TIME NOW FOR SEVEN SHARP, WE GET A COUPLE OF NICE DAYS. AND THE ANNOYING HABIT THAT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR US. YES. IF YOU'RE SOMEONE WHO FIDGETS, THERE'S NEW RESEARCH SHOWING IT'S NOT ALL BAD. WE'LL HAVE MORE ON THAT IN A MOMENT. BUT FIRST ` THE FOUR DAY WORKING WEEK. IT'S A PROPOSAL THAT, IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, HAS BEEN PITCHED AS AN ATTRACTIVE ALTERNATIVE TO THE CLASSIC MONDAY-TO-FRIDAY GRIND. ENDORSED BY THE LIKES OF SIR RICHARD BRANSON, THOUSANDS OF COMPANIES HAVE INTEGRATED THE MODEL INTO THEIR WORKFLOWS. NOW, A GROUP OF KIWIS IS TAKING IT ONE STEP FURTHER ` LAUNCHING AN INTERNATIONAL PETITION TO MAKE THE FOUR-DAY WEEK A WORLDWIDE REALITY. STAFF AT CONNECTED ACCOUNTANTS MAKE A LIVING OUT OF PROBLEM-SOLVING, BUT THERE WAS ONE EQUATION THAT DIDN'T ADD UP. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND WAS THAT THERE IS A LOT OF WASTED TIME IN THE DAY. IN AN EFFORT TO REDUCE WASTED TIME, THEY REDUCED THEIR WORKING WEEK. WE ADOPTED THE FOUR DAY WORK WEEK BECAUSE WE THOUGHT HEALTH AND WELFARE IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF A SUSTAINABLE BUSINESS. I CAN'T SE THAT WE'D EVER GO BACK TO WORKING FIVE DAYS A WEEK. AND THEY'RE IN GOOD COMPANY. THE SPANISH GOVERNMENT'S BACKING A TRIAL OF THE SCHEME ACROSS 200 BUSINESSES LATER IN THE YEAR. NOW AN INTERNATIONAL PETITION IS CALLING FOR A RETHINK OF THE TRADITIONAL MONDAY TO FRIDAY, ENCOURAGING EMPLOYERS TO ADOPT THE FOUR DAY MODEL WITHOUT CUTTING PAY OR BENEFITS. PRODUCTIVITY IS BETTER BECAUSE WE'RE DOING MORE IN FEWER HOURS. CONNECTED ACCOUNTANTS SAY THEY'LL BE SIGNING. SO COULD YOUR WORKPLACE SOON BE WAVING GOODBYE TO THE FIVE DAY WORKING WEEK? AND ANDREW BARNES IS THE MAN BEHIND THE FOUR DAY WORK WEEK, AND THIS PETITION AND HE'S HERE NOW. GREAT TO TALK TO YOU, ANDREW. NOW, THE PETITION PROPOSES FOUR DAYS BECOMES THE NEW NORM. HOW WOULD THAT WORK? WELL, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO RAISE AWARENESS RIGHT AROUND THE WORLD, ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF WORKING SMARTER, SHORTER, NOT LONGER. AND WE THINK THAT THE PETITION IS GOING TO REALLY INVIGORATE THE WHOLE OF THE CAMPAIGN RIGHT THE WAY AROUND THE WORLD. FIVE DAY WORKING WEEKS ARE STANDARD AROUND THE WORLD. HOW LIKELY IS IT THAT A PETITION WILL CHANGE THAT? WELL, I THINK IT'S REALLY LIKELY. IN FACT, AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THE CAMPAIGN AND THE PETITION THAT WE'VE JUST PUT OUT THERE, THE VERY FIRST COMPANY, KICKSTARTER IN THE UNITED STATES HAS ALREADY ANNOUNCED THAT IT IS GOING TO BE JOINING OUR FOUR DAY WEEK TRIAL AT THE BEGINNING OF 2022. SO IT'S MAKING AN IMPACT ALREADY, JOINING THOUSANDS OF COMPANIES THAT HAVE ALREADY MADE THE TRANSITION. AND WHAT CHANGES HAVE YOU SEEN IN YOUR OWN BUSINESS SINCE YOU IMPLEMENTED A FOUR DAY WEEK IN 2018? WELL, PRINCIPALLY, OUR STAFF ARE HEALTHIER, ARE HAPPIER. THEY'RE MORE ENGAGED. WE SAILED THROUGH LOCKDOWN WITHOUT ALMOST ANY TROUBLE AT ALL. BUT THE KEY THING IS THAT THEIR STRESS LEVELS HAVE DROPPED. MORE OF THEM SAY THEY CAN WORK BETTER, WORKING FOUR DAYS RATHER THAN FIVE, AND BEST OF ALL, FROM A BUSINESS OWNER, THE PRODUCTIVITY IN THE COMPANY HAS ACTUALLY GONE UP. WELL, ANDREW, I WAS GOING TO SAY MANY BUSINESSES WILL ARGUE THEY SIMPLY CAN'T KEEP PRODUCTIVITY AND PROFITABILITY UP IF EVERYONE WORKS 32 HOUR WEEKS. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT? WELL, LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE. I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, THAT'S WHY WE ARGUE THAT YOU SHOULD DO A TRIAL, ASK YOUR STAFF HOW THEY'RE GOING TO WORK DIFFERENTLY. BUT WHAT WE FIND IS THAT COMPANIES AROUND THE WORLD THAT HAVE IMPLEMENTED A FOUR DAY WEEK ARE SEEING SIGNIFICANT PRODUCTIVITY IMPROVEMENTS. AND JUST IN THE LAST MONTH, THE BIG UNION THAT SUPPORTS THE WORKERS, THE MOTO-AUTO WORKERS IN GERMANY HAS ACTUALLY NEGOTIATED A FOUR DAY WEEK ON FULL PAY. AND THE GERMANS ARE NOT WELL KNOWN FOR NOT BEING PRODUCTIVE. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE THAT YOU CAN BE PRODUCTIVE IN ALMOST ANY INDUSTRY YOU WANT, WORKING FOUR DAYS A WEEK. SEE, A LOT OF PEOPLE, MYSELF INCLUDED, ARE AMAZED THAT YOU WORK FEWER HOURS, 32 HOURS A WEEK, AND YET THE PRODUCTIVITY GOES UP. WHY IS THAT? WELL, THIS REALLY GOES BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE JOURNEY THAT I WENT ON, AND THAT WAS I DISCOVERED A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT INDICATED THAT PEOPLE WERE ONLY PRODUCTIVE FOR BETWEEN TWO AND A HALF AND THREE HOURS A DAY. THE REST WAS BUSYNESS. IT WAS ALMOST WORK AVOIDANCE, HAVING A CUP OF COFFEE, HAVING A CHAT. AND SO WHAT YOU DO IS, ONCE YOU ELIMINATE THAT UNPRODUCTIVE ACTIVITY, YOU'RE ABLE TO GET MORE PRODUCTIVITY, BUT YOU'RE ACTUALLY THEN ABLE TO GET MORE FREE TIME IN RETURN. FASCINATING STUFF AND ALL THE BEST FOR THE PETITION. THANK YOU, ANDREW. GREAT TO TALK TO YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CAPTIONS BY STEFFI DRYDEN, LILLIE BALFOUR AND SALLY HARPER. CAPTIONS WERE MADE WITH THE SUPPORT OF NZ ON AIR. WWW.ABLE.CO.NZ COPYRIGHT ABLE 2021 SO IF YOU ADOPT A FOUR DAY WEEK, THE PROBLEM IS WHAT THEY DO YOU TAKE OFF? I WOULD SAY THAT MONDAY IS THE OPTIMUM DAY FOR ME TO TAKE OFF. BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE MONDAYS. AND FRIDAY IS A FUN DAY, SO I WOULDN'T TAKE OFF FRIDAYS. I WOULD TAKE FRIDAYS. SO MUCH NEEDS TO HAPPEN ON THE MONDAY, YOU NEED TO SET UP THE WHOLE WEEK. BUT YOU NEVER GONNA GET SUNDAY EITHER ARE YOU. SOME JOBS OF COURSE YOU CAN'T DO A FOUR DAY WEEK. IMAGINE IF WE ONLY TURNED UP FOR FOUR DAYS. WE CAN'T DO THAT. DON'T TELL US WHETHER YOU LIKE THAT OR NOT. NO FEEDBACK ON THAT ONE. TOMORROW IS A BIG ANNIVERSARY FOR SOMETHING WE TAKE COMPLETELY FOR GRANTED. WE MAKE HOMES, OFFICES AND SHOPS OUT OF THEM, AND THOUSANDS OF THEM ARE BEING CARTED AROUND THE COUNTRY EVERY DAY. WHAT ARE THEY, AND HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN HERE? HERE'S MICHAEL HOLLAND WITH THE EXPLANATION. THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOREVER RIGHT? WELL, A SURPRISE TO ME, AND MAYBE TO MANY OF YOU TOO ` THESE SEEMINGLY PERMANENT FIXTURES ON OUR WHARVES DATE BACK ONLY 50 YEARS. A WHOLE NEW WORLD STARTED. YEP, 1971 ` THE YEAR KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN FIRST MADE US LICK OUR FINGERS AND THE WARKWORTH SATELLITE STATION FLICKERED TO LIFE. SO A NEW BREED OF SHIP... YOU COULD SEE THE SMOKE STACK AND THE SUPERSTRUCTURE COMING IN BETWEEN MT VICTORIA AND NORTH HEAD. ...STEAMED INTO AUCKLAND HARBOUR. AND THEN AROUND CAME THE BOW. AND AROUND CAME THE SHIP, EH. IT WAS A MAGNIFICENT SIGHT TO SEE. GREAT SHAPE, VERY SLEEK. AND YOU THOUGHT, 'WOW, YOU KNOW, 'THIS IS DEFINITELY A REVOLUTION IN THE MAKING.' ROB POWLEY (72) STARTING WORK AT THE PORT OF AUCKLAND A COUPLE OF MONTHS BEFORE THE COLUMBUS NEW ZEALAND SIGNALLED THE ARRIVAL OF THE NEW WAY ` CONTAINERISATION. IT WAS A SIGHT FOR SORE EYES, YEAH, YEAH. ARCHIVE: SOMETHING QUITE NEW FOR NEW ZEALAND ` CONTAINERS. CONTAINERS ARE METAL BOXES, 8-FOOT-HIGH AND 8-FOOT-WIDE, AND UP TO 40-FOOT-LONG. IT COULD CARRY 1187 CONTAINERS. 1187? THAT WAS CAPACITY. AND HOW MANY DID SHE DROP OFF THAT DAY? IT WAS 174 DISCHARGED, AND IT LOADED BACK 168 EXPORTS. OFF TO NORTH AMERICA? YES, YES, THE WEST COAST OF AMERICA. THE BIG OCCASION GIVING ROB A MOMENTARY BREAK FROM HIS DUTIES LOADING FROZEN MEAT CARCASSES IN THE HOLD OF A CONVENTIONAL CARGO VESSEL. I WAS JUST OVER HERE ON ONE OF THESE SHIPS DOING FREEZER. SO YOU ENJOYED THAT LOVELY VISTA, AND THEN BACK DOWN THE HOLD? YEP, BACK TO HUMPING CARCASSES ` THAT'S THE ONE. AND STACKING THEM HOW HIGH? OH, RIGHT UP TO THE TOP, SO IT MIGHT BE 40 OR 50 HIGH. ALL MANUAL HANDLING ` EVERY BIT OF CARGO. THAT'S WHAT YOU CALL REAL BLACK SINGLET STUFF? THAT'S RIGHT, WHARVIE STUFF. REAL WHARVIE STUFF? REAL WHARVIE STUFF. AND WHILE SOME OF HIS OLDER 'REAL WHARVIE' COLLEAGUES WEREN'T OVERLY ACCEPTING OF THE NEW EFFICIENCIES, ROB EMBRACED THEM, AND QUICKLY FOUND HIMSELF ON THE CONTAINER SIDE OF OPERATIONS. DRIVING ALL THE VARIETIES OF MACHINERY, CRANES, HOISTS, STRADDLES, TRUCK UNITS. I REALLY ENJOYED EVERY PART OF IT, AND STILL ENJOY EVERY PART OF IT. JUST WORKING ON THE WATERFRONT ITSELF ` IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A PLEASURE TO ME. I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A WATER PERSON ` A SURFER, A SAILOR, A KAYAKER, AND A PADDLER. I USED TO SWIM A LOT, AT LUNCHTIME AND THAT. YOU WOULD JUST GO IN OFF HERE? YEAH, YEAH, NO PROBLEM, YEAH. SO THESE BIG RIGS HERE, WHICH CAN BE FULLY AUTOMATED ` WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THEM? YEAH, THEY ARE THE FUTURE, AND, AH... THEY CAN SHIFT MORE CARGO AT A GREATER RATE. SO, EVEN NOW, YOU'RE EMBRACING THE FUTURE? YEAH, YEAH, I'VE ALWAYS HAD THAT POSITIVE ATTITUDE ` THAT POSITIVE MINDSET THAT THINGS EVOLVE. YOU WILL, OF COURSE, BE HERE ON THE DAY THAT SPARKY, THE NEW ELECTRIC TUG, ARRIVES? DEFINITELY. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE A LOVELY DAY WHEN IT COMES ROUND THE CORNER. STAUNCHLY A WHARVIE TO THE END? DEFINITELY, UNTIL THE DAY I DIE. AND FOR ANYONE INTERESTED IN THE ARRIVAL OF SPARKY IT WILL BE IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER APPARENTLY AWARE HAD, AROUND SORT OF A BOAT. THERE'S ALWAYS THAT ONE PERSON IN THE MORNING MEETING WHO HAS TO DOODLE OR FIDGET WHEN THE BOSS IS TRYING TO MAKE A SERIOUS POINT. OR THAT KID IN CLASS WHO JUST CANNOT SIT STILL. BUT AS FRUSTRATING AS FIDGETING CAN BE FOR THE PERSON WHO ISN'T FIDGETING, SCIENCE REVEALS IT'S NOT ALL BAD. THE DEFINITION OF FIDGETING IS TO MAKE SMALL MOVEMENTS, ESPECIALLY OF THE HANDS AND FEET, THROUGH NERVOUSNESS AND IMPATIENCE. PEOPLE WHO DO IT PROBABLY DON'T EVEN REALISE, WHILE THEIR COLLEAGUES MAY BE ALL TOO AWARE OF THEIR INABILITY TO SIT STILL AND LEAVE THAT DARN THING ALONE. NOW, THERE ARE DEDICATED TOYS TO SATISFY THE FIDGETER. BUBBLE POP, FINGER SPINNERS AND SQUEEZY BALLS, TO NAME A FEW. BUT SCIENTISTS NOW SAY THERE'S MORE TO FIDGETING THAN SIMPLY HAVING ANTS IN YOUR PANTS. SO IS IT TIME TO EMBRACE THE FIDGETER WITHIN US? AND JUSTIN FERNANDEZ FROM THE AUCKLAND BIOENGINEERING INSTITUTE IS WITH US NOW, KIA ORA, JUSTIN. NICE TO SEE YOU. YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE BEEN STUDYING FIDGETING. WHAT HAVE YOU FOUND? GOOD EVENING. YES. SO AS A BIOMEDICAL ENGINEER WHO USES MRI TECHNOLOGIES ALL THE TIME, I'VE ALSO BEEN VERY CURIOUS AS TO WHY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WITH ADHD, YOU KNOW, SHOW EXCESSIVE FIDGETING. SO I THOUGHT, WHY NOT CONNECT THE TWO TOGETHER? SO SOME COLLEAGUES AND I HEADED DOWN TO GISBORNE LAST YEAR TO THE MATAI MEDICAL RESEARCH INSTITUTE TO TRY OUT SOME NEW MRI SCANS SPECIFICALLY FOR PEOPLE WITH ADHD. AND WE KNOW WITH ADHD, WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THE FRONT PART OF YOUR BRAIN IS TYPICALLY UNDERACTIVE DURING DECISION MAKING PROCESSES. AND THE EUREKA MOMENT FOR US WAS THAT WHEN WE ASKED PEOPLE TO FIDGET WHILE THINKING INSIDE AN MRI SCANNER, WE SHOWED A SUDDEN INCREASE IN ACTIVATION IN THAT PART OF THE BRAIN. AND SO WE KNEW THAT FIDGETING WAS A REAL MECHANISM AND THAT WAS THE EUREKA MOMENT FOR US. SO JUST IF I'VE GOT THIS RIGHT, FIDGETING HELPS DECISION MAKING. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. SO WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT THERE'S AN INCREASE IN BLOOD FLOW TO THAT PART OF THE BRAIN, WHICH IS ASSOCIATED WITH DECISION MAKING AND HIGHER EXECUTIVE FUNCTIONING, AND IT'S TRIGGERED BY FIDGETING. SO THE MORE WE FIDDLE AROUND WITH THINGS AND MOVE OUR BODIES, THE BETTER WE ARE AT THINKING. WELL, DEFINITELY WE'RE SEEING THAT FOR VERY FINE MOTOR SKILLS LIKE FIDGETING AND TICS. BUT I THINK BECAUSE WE'RE ALL VERY NEURODIVERSE, WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES TO HELP US THINK. AND IT APPEARS THAT FIDGETING IS ONE MECHANISM THAT OUR BRAIN HAS COME UP WITH TO HELP US CONCENTRATE. AND JUSTIN, IS IT ANY SPECIFIC TYPE OF FIDGETING? SO WHAT WE ASKED THE PEOPLE TO DO WAS TO FIDGET IN ANY WAY THAT THEY FELT NATURAL INSIDE THE SCANNER. SO WE KNOW IT'S A VERY PERSONALISED THING, FIDGETING. SO WE ASKED THEM EITHER TO TAP THEIR LEG, OR FIDGET THEIR HANDS, BUT WHATEVER IT WAS NATURAL TO THEM. SO WE FEEL THAT PEOPLE WHO NATURALLY FIDGET HAVE FIGURED OUT A STRATEGY, AND IT MAY BE DIFFERENT FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT NATURAL FIDGETERS. YOU LOOKED AT PEOPLE WITH ADHD. DID YOUR RESEARCH REVEAL ANYTHING THAT MIGHT HELP THOSE WHO SUFFER FROM ADHD? SO FAR, IT'S IN ITS EARLY STAGES. WHAT WE HAVE SEEN SO FAR IS THAT FIDGETING IS INCREASING THE FUNCTIONAL BEHAVIOUR IN THE FRONT OF THE BRAIN. SO THAT'S THE PART THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH DECISION MAKING. SO, JUSTIN, WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR PEOPLE WHO NATURALLY FIDGET? I THINK PEOPLE WHO NATURALLY FIDGET, YOU KNOW, HAVE JUST KIND OF FIGURED OUT A STRATEGY THAT WORKS FOR THEM. AND THAT'S DIFFERENT, I THINK, FROM PEOPLE WHO, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO DON'T HAVE ADHD. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND WAS THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE NEUROTYPICAL, WHEN THEY JUMP IN THE SCANNER, THEY ALSO SHOWED INCREASES IN ACTIVATION IN THAT FRONT OF THE BRAIN. BUT I THINK THE BENEFIT WAS NOT AS REALISED AS THOSE WITH ADHD, WHO WENT FROM PRETTY MUCH LOW OR NO ACTIVATION TO SOMETHING THAT WAS FAIRLY TYPICAL LOOKING. THANKS SO MUCH, JUSTIN. ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING STUFF. GREAT TO TALK TO YOU. PLEASURE. RESEARCHERS HAVE FOUND THAT TALKING WITH YOUR HANDS HELPS YOU THINK TOO, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ABSTRACT, TURNS OUT, USING YOUR HANDS MAKES IT EASIER FOR YOU TO NAVIGATE COMPLEX IDEAS IN YOUR BRAIN. IT DOES. IT REALLY DOES. ON TV, IT'S REALLY DISTRACTING AND WEIRD WHEN YOU USE YOUR HANDS LIKE THAT. ESPECIALLY WITH YOUR DAVID COPPERFIELD SLEEVES. AND I CAN HEAR LAUGHING FROM THE CONTROL ROOM. THAT'S NOT FUNNY. E WHAI AKE NEI. COMING UP ON SEVEN SHARP ` WE MEET TROY KINGI, A MAN WHO LOVES HATS, PONCHOS AND MAKING MUSIC. PLUS ` WE DIVE DEEP INTO THE DARK CORNERS OF TVNZ TO INVESTIGATE ALL MANNER OF SPOOKY THINGS. IS THIS BUILDING HAUNTED? AND GIRLS HAD SEEN IT JUST DRIFTING PAST THE DOOR. JUST DRIFTING PAST THE DOOR, AND THEY WENT 'OH!', YOU KNOW. NAU MAI, HOKI MAI. WELCOME BACK, LOVELY TO HAVE YOU WITH US. OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, KIWI MUSICIAN TROY KINGI HAS BEEN MAKING A NAME FOR HIMSELF AS A GRITTY SONGWRITER WITH AN ABUNDANT SUPPLY OF HAIR. THE FATHER OF FIVE HAS JUST FINISHED HIS FIFTH ALBUM, BUT HAS PLENTY MORE PLANNED. HERE'S TE RAUHIRINGA BROWN. # COME WITH ME AND WE'LL # RUN AWAY. # TROY KINGI WEARS LOTS OF DIFFERENT HITS ` QUITE LITERALLY. HE'S A SINGER, SONGWRITER, PRODUCER, KAI WHAKAARI ACTOR, PONCHO INFLUENCER. HOW MANY WOULD YOU SAY HAVE? I THINK ABOUT EIGHT. TEN. TEN. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, A HUSBAND AND A DOTING DAD TO FIVE TALENTED TAMARIKI. PAPER, SCISSORS, ROCK. THE TE ARAWAI/NGAI PUHI DESCENDANT HAS OFFICIALLY REACHED THE HALFWAY MARK OF HIS AMBITIOUS 10-10-10 PROJECT ` TO WRITE 10 ALBUMS ACROSS 10 GENRES IN 10 YEARS. # ON THE NEON FLOOR. # I FEEL LIKE THERE WILL BE AT LEAST 20 BY THE TIME I'M FINISHED. # I AM BLINDED IN THE SUNLIGHT. # THE NEWEST ADDITION, A FOLK ALBUM. OF ALL THE ALBUMS THAT I'VE PUT OUT SO FAR, THIS IS DEFINITELY THE MOST PERSONAL. EACH SONG IS ABOUT A DIFFERENT PHASE IN LIFE. SO WE HAVE BIRTH, WORK. AND THEN WE HAD ONE WITH, WE HAD SCHOOL AND I HAVEN'T BEEN TO SCHOOL FOR CLOSE TO 20 YEARS. SO I WAS LIKE, WHY DON'T I WHY DON'T I HIT MY DAUGHTER UP, WHO'S BEEN DOING A BIT OF POETRY. THAT POEM BECAME THE FIRST SONG, 'CALL MY NAME', CO-WRITTEN BY TROY'S 13-YEAR-OLD TAMAHINE, CODY KINGI. I ALWAYS LIKE TO SING AND MAKE MUSIC BECAUSE DAD ALWAYS USED TO SING TO US WHEN WE WERE LITTLE. AND THEN` YOU'RE STILL LITTLE, BABE. WHEN I WAS REALLY LITTLE. SHE RECENTLY PLACED SECOND IN THE NATIONAL SONGWRITING COMPETITION. THEY THOUGHT THAT DAD HELPED ME WRITE IT. BUT IT WAS ALL ME. I COULD HAVE MADE IT BETTER, THOUGH. I RECKON. I COULD HAVE MADE YOU WIN. NAH. (LAUGHS) NAH, YOU'RE PRETTY GOOD, MY DARLING. YOU'RE PRETTY GOOD. IT'S NOT JUST TE KAURI THAT FOLLOWS IN HER PAPA'S FOOTSTEPS. MUSIC RUNS THICK IN THEIR WHAKAPAPA. (ALL SING IN TE REO MAORI) WHETHER IT BE SINGING SONGWRITING IN THE STUDIO, IT'S PART OF THEM, I GUESS. AND I'M HAPPY THAT NONE OF THEM ARE TONE DEAF. (LAUGHS) THE ALBUM WAS ALSO MADE WITH THE HELP OF AWARD WINNING ARTIST AND PRODUCER DELANEY DAVISSON, A PART OF THE MATAIRANGI MAHI TOI ARTIST RESIDENCY. SO WE WERE STAYING AT THE GOVERNOR GENERAL RESIDENCE WITH A NEW FRIEND THAT I JUST MET. HE MADE THE MOST OF IT, NOT ONLY WRITING A FULL ALBUM IN FOUR DAYS, BUT ALSO TRANSLATING HIS ALBUM, 'HOLY COLONY BURNING ACRES' ENTIRELY INTO TE REO MAORI. THAT WAS ANOTHER BIG, MASSIVE JOURNEY, HOPING TO DROP IT MAORI LANGUAGE WEEK IN SEPTEMBER. TROY AND DELANEY HIT THE ROAD THIS AUGUST. THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE QUITE SCARY BECAUSE I'VE HAD A NINE PIECE BAND FOR THE PAST YEAR, SO WE'RE STRIPPING IT RIGHT BACK TO A TWO PIECE, ME AND DELANEY. PLAYING THE ALBUM LIVE ACROSS THE MOTU IN A RAW, UNPLUGGED PERFORMANCE. DON'T EXPECT TO COME AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, GET ON THE PISS AND RAGE HARDOUT.YOU YOU'RE GOING TO COME SIT DOWN AND ENJOY THE AMBIENCE OF THE THEATRE. JUST RUNNING THAT DOWN. JUST RUNNING THAT DOWN.ONE INCREDIBLY TALENTED MAN AND AN INCREDIBLY TALENTED FAMILY THERE HAVE BEEN RUMOURS FOR YEARS THAT THE TVNZ BUILDING IN AUCKLAND HAS A GHOST ON ITS PREMISES. SOME CLAIM THEY'VE SEEN IT, BUT NOTHING HAS BEEN CAUGHT ON CAMERA. IN A BUILDING FULL OF CAMERAS THAT JUST DIDN'T ADD UP. RHYS MATHEWSON INVESTIGATES. A BUSTLING BROADCASTER BY DAY. BUT AT NIGHT, ARE THESE HALLWAYS HAUNTED? ROBIN RAWNSLEY WAS A SECURITY GUARD AT TVNZ FOR YEARS AND HE'S HEARD ALL THE STORIES. HE THINKS THE PREVIOUS OCCUPANTS NEVER MOVED OUT. TWO OLD HOUSES, WHERE THE ROAD IS AT THE CORNER HERE. AND AN OLD LADY LIVED IN ONE OF THEM AND SHE DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE IT, APPARENTLY. EVEN WHEN THE HOUSE WAS TAKEN AWAY, SHE CAME BACK HERE AND GIRLS HAD SEEN HER DRIFTING PAST THE DOOR. DOES THIS GHOST EXIST? AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHO WAS I GOING TO CALL? HAUNTED AUCKLAND PARANORMAL INVESTIGATORS. I TOOK THEM INTO THE DEPTHS OF TVNZ AT NIGHT TO FIND OUT. ARMED WITH THERMAL IMAGING CAMERAS, VARIOUS GHOST BUSTING DEVICES AND A TEDDY BEAR, OUR HUNTERS SET TO WORK. SO WE'RE IN THE SPACE, LOOKING AROUND. HAVEN'T FOUND ANYTHING YET, BUT THERE ARE CERTAINLY A FEW CAREERS THAT ARE PROBABLY DOWN HERE. IF SOMEONE'S WORRIED ABOUT A GHOST IN THEIR HOUSE RIGHT NOW, WHAT SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN DO JUST TO TRY AND, LIKE, WARD IT OFF? TELL IT TO BEHAVE. LITERALLY. YOU JUST, 'THIS IS MY HOUSE NOW. I LIVE HERE. CUT IT OUT.' JUST PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE FLATMATE YOUR GHOST. THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT. LITERALLY. THAT'S IT. GHOST, IF YOU ARE THERE, YOU NEED TO STOP LEAVING YOUR WET WASHING IN THE WASHING MACHINE. MOST PEOPLE WOULD PROBABLY THINK THAT WHAT WE DO IS QUITE BORING. WE GO IN AND SIT IN THE ROOM IN THE DARK AND TALK TO NOTHING. YOU KNOW. IS THERE SOMEBODY HERE WITH US RIGHT NOW? IF YOU WANT TO COME AND TOUCH ANY OF US... TOUCH HIM. TOUCH HIM. WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW WHO WON POP STARS? SORRY, GUYS. I NEED TO GO TO THE BATHROOM. WHO'S YOUR FAVOURITE, HILLARY OR JEREMY? (SILENCE) NEITHER. THAT'S FAIR. THEY'RE BOTH STRONG. WHISPERS: SO, MY LAST BUS IS AT 10.30... SO, WE'RE GETTING A TEMPERATURE DROP. 25, 24, 23. A COOL BREEZE OR SOMETHING MORE? THE HUNT WAS ON. AH! JUST KIDDING. (CHIP PACKET CRACKLES) SHH! SORRY. NERVOUS EATER. SO, GUYS, WHAT'S THE VERDICT? ANY EVIDENCE? NO. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE TIME. YEAH. I THINK AN OVERNIGHT STAY IS IN ORDER. NOPE. NO OVERNIGHT. NO THANK YOU. (SILLY MUSIC) OH, GOD, I'M LOST. AH! (PANTS) WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A MOMENT. HE DIDN'T FIND ANY THAT HE. - People fly for all kinds of different reasons, like going to work, and going on leave. You fly for a hug... - Hi, Dad. - ...or a hug-shake? - Hey, that's my bag. - (MAKES ROBOTIC NOISES) - And to see your best friends. - (COOS EXCITEDLY) (DOGS BARK) - Everyone has a reason for flying, and our reason is you. WELCOME BACK. TOMORROW WE HAVE AN IMPORTANT SHOW. OUR CAMERAS WILL BE STATIONED INSIDE A LIVE HOUSE FIRE. WE'RE REVEALING JUST HOW QUICKLY FIRE CAN SPREAD INSIDE YOUR HOME. YOU WON'T WANT TO MISS IT. THOSE WERE OUR PEOPLE TODAY. THAT WAS SEVEN SHARP TONIGHT. EAT WELL FOR LESS IS NEXT. WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW. PO MARIE. CHEERIO. CAPTIONS BY STEFFI DRYDEN, LILLIE BALFOUR AND SALLY HARPER. CAPTIONS WERE MADE WITH THE SUPPORT OF NZ ON AIR. WWW.ABLE.CO.NZ COPYRIGHT ABLE 2021