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Join the Seven Sharp team as they present the stories of the day from around New Zealand, live, five nights a week.

  • 1Former Black Caps Coach Reflects on New Zealand’s World Test Championship Triumph Mike Hesson spoke to us after the Black Caps win against India.

  • 2Insights into Our Inner Voice Revealed in New Study Psychologist Dougal Sutherland explains.

  • 3Site of House Fires Remain Dangerous, Even After the Blaze is Out Seven Sharp return to the site of a house we filmed burning to ground, in the interests of fire safety education.

  • 4NZ on Screen’s John Clarke Collection The collection of Clarke, one of NZ’s greatest comedians is available to rediscover or experience for the first time.

  • 5Hilary Barry Helps Out With the New Zealand Garden Bird Survey Bird whisperer Tim Lovegrove led the way.

Primary Title
  • Seven Sharp
Date Broadcast
  • Thursday 24 June 2021
Start Time
  • 19 : 00
Finish Time
  • 19 : 30
Duration
  • 30:00
Series
  • 2021
Episode
  • 98
Channel
  • TVNZ 1
Broadcaster
  • Television New Zealand
Programme Description
  • Join the Seven Sharp team as they present the stories of the day from around New Zealand, live, five nights a week.
Classification
  • Not Classified
Owning Collection
  • Chapman Archive
Broadcast Platform
  • Television
Languages
  • English
Captioning Languages
  • English
Captions
Live Broadcast
  • Yes
Rights Statement
  • Made for the University of Auckland's educational use as permitted by the Screenrights Licensing Agreement.
Hosts
  • Hillary Barry (Host)
  • Jeremy Wells (Host)
BUT FIRST, IN THE MIDST OF AN ANXIOUS WEEK FOR KIWIS, THERE WAS A BOLT OF JOY OUT OF THE BLUE AT SOUTHAMPTON IN ENGLAND. BOWLS TO TAYLOR, WHIPS IT UP HIS PANTS, YES! AND IT'S GONNA GO FOR 6 I THINK. AND AFTER SO MUCH HEARTACHE, AFTER SO MUCH PAIN, AFTER SO MUCH SUFFERING, THE NZ CRICKETERS ARE NOW CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD! WOO! WORLD CHAMPIONS! WORLD (BLEEP) CHAMPIONS! (JOURNEY'S 'DON'T STOP BELIEVING') ONE FOR THE HISTORY BOOKS. AS OF 5.30 THIS MORNING, THE BLACK CAPS ARE OFFICIALLY THE FIRST EVER WORLD TEST CHAMPIONS. (LOUD CHEERING) KANE WILLIAMSON'S COMPOSED HALF-CENTURY, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH ROSS TAYLOR'S GUTSY 47 RUNS, GUIDING THE BLACK CAPS TO AN HISTORIC 8 WICKET VICTORY. HOW APPROPRIATE THAT ROSS TAYLOR AND KANE WILLIAMSON ARE THERE FOR THIS MOMENT. A MOMENT, 8 YEARS IN THE MAKING. WHO CAN FORGET SOUTH AFRICA, 2013. THE TEAM BOWLED OUT FOR 45. SO HOW DID THE BLACK CAPS GO FROM THAT FATEFUL DAY... TO CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD? AND A MAN WHO PLAYED A HUGE PART IN THAT METEORIC RISE, IS FORMER BLACK CAPS COACH MIKE HESSON. THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US, MIKE. I IMAGINE YOU WOULD HAVE WATCHED EVERY BALL OF THAT FINAL DAY ` HAVE YOU SLEPT YET? OH, NO, I HAVEN'T. NOT YET. IT'S, OBVIOUSLY, STILL PRETTY EXCITED, AND CERTAINLY COULDN'T SLEEP THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT, I DIDN'T WANT TO MISS ANYTHING. I THINK I WILL SLEEP PRETTY WELL TONIGHT. WHAT MAKES THIS TEAM SO SPECIAL? LOOK, I THINK THEY PLAY FOR EACH OTHER, AND I THINK IT'S GENUINE. I MEAN, YOU ALWAYS HEAR THEM TALK ABOUT TEAM FIRST AND, YOU KNOW, THEY NEVER SORT OF GO ON ABOUT THEIR OWN PERSONAL ACCOLADES. AND THAT'S GENUINE. IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A FORCED THING. IT'S JUST THE WAY THAT THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN GET THE BEST OUT OF THEMSELVES AS A TEAM. SO, THEY PLAY AS A UNIT. THEY'RE ACTUALLY HIGHLY SKILLED. I THINK WE'VE PROBABLY GOT SEVEN OF OUR BEST EVER TEST PLAYERS. IF WE WERE TO PICK 15, I THINK WE'VE PROBABLY GOT SEVEN OF THEM IN THIS CURRENT TEST TEAM. PUT THIS ONE IN PERSPECTIVE FOR US. IS THIS OUR GREATEST CRICKETING ACHIEVEMENT? YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS, HILLARY. I THINK TO BE RATED THE BEST TEAM IN THE WORLD IS GREAT. BUT TO THEN WIN A FINAL, UNDER PRESSURE, WITH ALL THE RAIN AROUND, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE SIX DAYS, SO MANY DIFFERENT PERMUTATIONS, IT'S JUST AN OUTSTANDING WIN. AND I THINK IT IS. I THINK IT IS THE GREATEST ACHIEVEMENT OF THE NEW ZEALAND CRICKET TEAM. MIKE, LOOKING BACK, HOW BIG A PART OF THIS WIN, DID BEING BOWLED OUT FOR 45, IN CAPE TOWN, IN 2013 PLAY? OH, LOOK, I THINK YOU DO NEED TO HIT ROCK BOTTOM BEFORE YOU GO 'LOOK, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SOME CHANGES AS A GROUP,' AND CERTAINLY WE DID. AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF PLAYERS THAT WERE PART OF THAT TEAM AT THE TIME. A NUMBER OF PLAYERS THAT HAVE BEEN THROUGH SOME HEARTBREAK OF, YOU KNOW, MAKING THE WORLD CUP FINAL IN 2015, GOING SO CLOSE IN 2019. SO IT'S BEEN-IT'S BEEN A JOURNEY. AND I GUESS THE FACT THAT NEW ZEALAND HAVE NOW GOT THAT MONKEY OFF THE BACK, IN TERMS OF WINNING THAT WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP, IT'S SORT OF-IT'S-IT'S GREAT FOR THIS TEAM, WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH. MIKE, I KNOW THERE'S SOME FRIENDLY RIVALRY BETWEEN THE CURRENT PLAYERS AND THEIR 1980S COUNTERPARTS. CAN WE NOW SAY, THOUGH, THIS IS OUR BEST TEST TEAM OF ALL TIME? OH, LOOK, IT'S HARD TO COMPARE GENERATIONS, AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GAIN A LOT BY DOING SO, BUT IT'S PRETTY HARD TO GO PAST WINNING A WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP. I MEAN, WINNING BILATERAL SERIES IS GREAT, AND THE SIDE IN THE 80S WAS SUPERB, AND HAD SOME FINE PLAYERS. BUT, AS I SAID BEFORE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF THESE PLAYERS, POTENTIALLY SIX, SEVEN, MAYBE MORE WILL END UP IN OUR GREATEST TEAM OF ALL TIME. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME, MIKE. AND FROM LONG TERM NEW ZEALAND CRICKET FANS, WHO'VE WATCHED THE HIGHS AND LOWS OVER THE YEARS, THANKS FOR WHAT YOU CONTRIBUTED TOWARDS THIS. I APPRECIATE IT. THANKS VERY MUCH. CAPTIONS BY ANNIE CURTIS, STEFFI DRYDEN AND PHOEBE UPTON. CAPTIONS WERE MADE WITH THE SUPPORT OF NZ ON AIR. WWW.ABLE.CO.NZ COPYRIGHT ABLE 2021 SO INTERESTING BEING OUT AND ABOUT AROUND NEW ZEALAND. THERE WERE TWO TYPES OF NEW ZEALANDERS ` THOSE WHO STAYED UP ALL NIGHT, AND THOSE WHO HADN'T. I COULDN'T STAY UP ALL NIGHT, BUT YOU DID. AND IT WAS WORTH IT! ABSOLUTELY, AND IF YOU ARE AROUND FOR 2019, AND A HEARTACHE. THAT WAS HARD TO GET OVER. A LOT OF NEW ZEALAND CRICKET FANS HAVE BEEN THROUGH SOME HIGHS, AND SOME LOW LOWS. THAT IS THE HIGHEST OF HIGHS. I FEEL ON A HIGH. YOU HAVE A GLOW ABOUT YOU. I'M VERY HAPPY. AND IN A PIECE. THE TOPIC OF INNER SPEECH HAS LONG BEEN DEBATED, AND UNTIL RECENTLY, THE WAY PEOPLE EXPERIENCE THEIR INTERNAL MONOLOGUE WAS DEEMED UNIVERSAL. BUT A RECENT STUDY HAS REVEALED THAT OUR INNER VOICE MAY BE AS UNIQUE AS OUR OUTER ONE, AND SOME MAY NOT HAVE ONE AT ALL. # HELLO DARKNESS, MY OLD FRIEND YOUR INTERNAL VOICE CAN PLAY A VITAL PART IN YOUR DAY AND YOUR LIFE, HELPING WITH DECISION-MAKING AND PROBLEM-SOLVING. BUT IT TURNS OUT, NO INNER VOICE IS THE SAME. IT'S VERY, VERY, BUSY, UNFORTUNATELY! RATIONALISING THINGS, LIKE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH YOUR BRAIN. MY WIFE, TELLING ME THE CORRECT THINGS TO DO. I TALK BACK TO IT, GETS ME THROUGH THINGS OCCASIONALLY. I ALSO HAVE AN INNER SCREEN, WITH PICTURES. SOME OF MY FRIENDS DON'T HAVE IT, APPARENTLY, AND I JUST I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WOULD WORK. I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING IN MY HEAD. NEW EVIDENCE HAS BEEN BLOWING THE INTERNET'S MIND, SUGGESTING SOME PEOPLE'S INTERNAL MONOLOGUE PLAYS OUT LIKE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH YOURSELF. OH MY GOODNESS, IS THIS REALLY NECESSARY? I'M SURE THEY ONLY DO THIS FOR THEIR OWN ENTERTAINMENT. WHEREAS SOME PEOPLE EXPERIENCE IT AS A THIRD PERSON NARRATION. WELL, HELLO, WORKMATES! HILARY HAS ARRIVED IN THE NEWSROOM. AND SOME DON'T HEAR ANYTHING AT ALL. (CRICKETS CHIRPING) SO WHAT DOES THIS TELL US? AND IS SILENCE GOLDEN? HOW LOVELY IS TRENT BOULT? HE'S JUST GOT SUCH A BEAUTIFUL ACTION. AND PSYCHOLOGIST DOUGAL SUTHERLAND FROM VICTORIA UNIVERSITY IS HERE. IT'S GREAT TO TALK TO YOU AGAIN. NOW, TELL US, WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR INNER VOICE? SO, THAT INNER VOICE, IT'S OUR LANGUAGE, IT'S HOW WE TALK TO OURSELVES IN OUR HEADS, IT'S WHAT WE SAY TO OURSELVES AND THEY RECKON THAT WE SPEND ABOUT A QUARTER OF OUR WAKING LIVES DOING THIS, THAT'S CONVERSING TO OURSELVES IN OUR HEAD, OR HAVING LITTLE DIALOGUES OR CONVERSATIONS WITH OURSELVES. AND WHAT ROLE DOES IT PLAY IN OUR LIVES? LOOK, IT'S GOT A HUGE ROLE. IT HELPS US THINK, WE REHEARSE THINGS. YOU MIGHT BE COMING ON NATIONAL TV AND THINK, 'WELL, WHAT AM I GOING TO SAY TO HILLARY AND JEREMY?' AND THEN REHEARSE THAT OVER TO YOURSELF. IT'S GOT A ROLE IN MEMORY. SO YOU MIGHT REMEMBER SOMETHING BY REPEATING IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. YOU MIGHT HAVE LITTLE ARGUMENTS, LITTLE DISCUSSIONS WITH YOURSELF, ABOUT SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY NEVER REALLY SAID ANYWAY. BUT YOU ANSWER THEM BACK, AND THEN HAVE A GOOD COME BACK FOR THAT. SO, IT HELPS US PLAN AND THINK AND ORGANISE AND REMEMBER. SO IT'S GOT A HUGE ROLE IN OUR THINKING, AND IN OUR DAILY LIVES. DOUGAL, WHY ARE THERE DIFFERENCES IN WHAT PEOPLE HEAR OR EXPERIENCE WITH THEIR INNER VOICE? SO, IT'S PROBABLY RELATED TO LANGUAGE, LIKE IF YOU READ A PSYCHOLOGY TEXTBOOK, IT AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMES THAT WE ALL HAVE THIS INNER VOICE. BUT THEN MORE RECENTLY, SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID, 'I DON'T ACTUALLY THINK I DO HAVE AN INNER VOICE.' 'I DON'T REALLY HEAR ANYTHING.' AND MY IMMEDIATE THOUGHT WAS, WHAT ARE THEY HEARING? MAYBE IT'S JUST TUMBLEWEEDS GOING SORT OF SILENTLY. BUT SOME PEOPLE WITH AUTISM, FOR EXAMPLE, SAY THAT THEY DON'T REALLY HEAR A VOICE, BUT THEY THINK MORE IN PICTURES. SO WE THINK IT'S SORT OF THE LANGUAGE, IT'S MORE LIKE A LANGUAGE IN YOUR HEAD. AND MOST OF US USE A VERBAL LANGUAGE. SO WE HEAR THAT LANGUAGE AS SPEECH IN OUR HEAD. BUT SOME PEOPLE FOR WHOM LANGUAGE IS NOT SPOKEN, LANGUAGE IS NOT A KEY THING. THEY MIGHT HEAR MORE IN PICTURES, OR MAYBE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE DEAF, IT'S A MIXTURE OF SIGN LANGUAGE, AND MAYBE LIP-READING, AS WELL. SO, IT'S REALLY US USING LANGUAGE IN OUR HEADS, AND FOR MOST OF US, THAT'S SPEECH. SO FOR SOME, IT CAN BE YOUR BIGGEST SUPPORTER, OR YOUR WORST CRITIC. HOW CAN WE HARNESS IT FOR THE BETTER? I THINK IT'S ABOUT TUNING INTO IT, AND REALISING WHAT IT'S SAYING TO YOU. I'VE GOT A FRIEND THAT SAYS IF HE SAID TO OTHER PEOPLE WHAT HE SAID TO HIMSELF IN HIS HEAD, HE'D BE FIRED FROM HIS JOB IN FIVE MINUTES, COS HE'S CONSTANTLY CRITICISING HIMSELF IN HIS HEAD. SO THE FIRST THING, I THINK, IS BEING AWARE OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING TO YOURSELF IN YOUR HEAD AND REALISING THAT IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE TRUTH. SOMETIMES WE TREAT WHAT GOES ON IN OUR HEAD AS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH AND WE BELIEVE IT, BUT ACTUALLY IT'S JUST AN OPINION. IT'S JUST ONE WAY OF LOOKING AT THE WORLD. SO WE CAN USE THAT TO OUR ADVANTAGE. YOU KNOW, WE CAN USE THAT TO MOTIVATE US, BUT WE SHOULD BE CAREFUL NOT TO ASSUME THAT IT'S` IT IS THE WHOLE TRUTH. IT'S JUST AN OPINION. IT'S ONE VIEW OF THE WORLD, AND THERE MIGHT BE OTHER VIEWS AROUND THE WORLD` ABOUT THE WORLD THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT. THANKS, DOUGAL. SOME REALLY INTERESTING STUFF THERE. LOVELY TO SEE YOU AGAIN. THANKS, GUYS. DO YOU KNOW WHEN I HAVE THE MOST VOICES IN MY HEAD? DOING THIS SHOW. RIGHT NOW. CONSTANT VOICES. WHAT ARE THEY SAYING? IF I MAKE A MISTAKE, I THINK, WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE A TIT. AND I HAVE A KINDLY VIEWER, NEGATING THAT VOICE, SAYING DON'T WORRY, WE FORGIVE YOU. THAT I HAVE ANOTHER VOICE THAT IS SET UP STRAIGHT, DON'T MAKE THAT SILLY FACE. WHAT? WHAT IS YOUR VOICE TELLING YOU NOW? IT IS SAYING A LOT OF THINGS, THEY ARE NOT GOOD. STOP STARING AT ME. I JUST HAVE SONGS. LA - LA -LA . JUST CONSTANT SONGS? NO VOICES? UNUSUAL. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF YOU WATCHED OUR LIVE FIRE DRILL LAST NIGHT. IT WAS A CONTROLLED SIMULATION OF EXACTLY WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN FIRE TAKES HOLD INSIDE A HOME. AND IT PRODUCED SOME CONFRONTING REMINDERS OF JUST HOW FAST FIRE SPREADS. LUCAS DE JONG RETURNED TO THE PROPERTY TO RETRACE HIS STEPS IN THE RUBBLE. FROM A MINUTE.. TO AN HOUR... TO TODAY. THIS IS THE DEVASTATION THAT FIRE CAUSES. IT'S A BIT DIFFERENT FROM THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE? YEAH, DEFINITELY. WE'RE BACK IN THE LIVING ROOM WHERE THE FIRE STARTED. THAT WAS WHERE OUR HEATER WAS. WHAT'S LEFT IS A METAL GRAVEYARD, A PLACE WHERE FIRE HAS STRIPPED EVERYTHING BACK TO ITS BONES. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO STRAIGHT BIT OF METAL HERE ANY MORE, IS THERE? EVERYTHING'S BEEN WARPED AND TWISTED AND JUST ABSOLUTELY RAVAGED. DEFINITELY. EVERYTHING OTHER THAN ANYTHING THAT WAS OF A DECENT QUALITY METAL, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONE. THE POT HAS ACTUALLY MELTED TO THE TOP OF THE ELEMENT. HARD TO EVEN ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT. AND IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHERE IS EVERYTHING? AND WHERE WAS EVERYTHING. YEAH. THAT'S PETER'S JOB AS A FIRE INVESTIGATOR. NOW, WE HAVE TO TRY AND PIECE TOGETHER THAT PUZZLE, TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT CAUSED THE FIRE. IS THIS A PARTICULARLY HARD SITUATION BECAUSE WE LET IT BURN ALL THE WAY? YES, IT IS. OBVIOUSLY, THE SOONER WE GET THERE AND EXTINGUISH THE FIRE, THE MORE EVIDENCE IS LEFT, THE EASIER OUR JOB AS INVESTIGATORS BECOMES. THIS IS A TYPICAL SCENE IN RURAL AREAS, WHERE HELP HASN'T ARRIVED IN TIME. BUT IN THIS WRECKAGE, THERE ARE SIGNS. SO THIS PINK DISCOLOURATION SHOWS HOW INTENSE THE HEAT HAS BEEN. IT'S BEEN HOTTER ON THIS SIDE, WHICH WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE FIRE'S BEEN TRAVELLING THAT WAY. HERE WE'D PROBABLY FIND THAT THE SPRINGS AT THE FAR END OF THIS COUCH ARE LESS DAMAGED THAN THIS ONE. EVEN AFTER THE FLAMES HAVE GONE, THE DANGER REMAINS. IS THAT HEAT GONNA HANG AROUND FOR A LONG TIME? YES, SO THE HEAT IN THE CONCRETE WILL STAY THERE AND JUST RELEASE OVER THE NEXT DAY OR TWO. THIS CORRUGATED IRON, IT'S STILL TOO HOT TO HOLD ONTO WITH LEATHER GLOVES THERE'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY AS YOU WALK AROUND ONE OF THESE SCENES AND DISTURB SOME OF THE MATERIAL, THAT THERE CAN BE POCKETS OF GAS UNDERNEATH. WE TYPICALLY USE A GAS DETECTOR TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP OURSELVES SAFE. IT'S DESTRUCTION THAT'S HARD TO STOMACH. THE IDEA THAT A MOMENT'S MISTAKE CAN DESTROY A LIFE OF POSSESSION. AND THERE'S THE REMAINS, OR SOME OF THE REMAINS, OF OUR CLOTHES RACK. IT WOULDN'T BE HUMAN NOT TO FEEL FOR THE FAMILIES, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE JUST LOST, FOR SOME PEOPLE, THE HOUSE THAT THEY'VE LIVED IN THEIR WHOLE LIFE. BUT, IT'S JUST STUFF. IT'S ALL REPLACEABLE - WE CAN BUY IT TOMORROW, FROM ANY OF THE SHOPS. BUT ` WE CAN'T REPLACE THAT LIFE. BECAUSE IF FIRE'S GIVEN THE CHANCE, IT CAN, AND WILL, TAKE EVERYTHING. THANKS FOR YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT PROGRAM. A LOT OF FAMILIES MAKING ESCAPE PLANS. THAT'S POSITIVE, ISN'T IT? VERY POSITIVE. NOW, WE ALL KNOW PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO'VE DONE SOMETHING GREAT AND DESERVE A BIT OF RECOGNITION. AND THAT'S WHY WE PARTNER WITH ASB, TO BRING YOU 'GOOD AS GOLD'. DO YOU KNOW SOMEONE DOING SELFLESS THINGS FOR OTHERS IN YOUR COMMUNITY? DOESN'T HAVE MUCH, BUT WHATEVER SHE HAS, SHE WILL GIVE. SHE IS VERY SELFLESS. I JUST WANT HER TO KNOW THAT WE LOVE HER. OR MAYBE THEY'VE HAD A TOUGH TIME AND DESERVE A TREAT. ON BEHALF OF ASB, THEY WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU $10,000. WELL, WHY NOT NOMINATE THEM FOR OUR ASB GOOD AS GOLD AWARD? (LAUGHTER) UNREAL. GO TO ASBGOODASGOLD.CO.NZ AND TELL US THEIR STORY. E WHAI AKE NEI, COMING UP ON SEVEN SHARP A FAMOUS BLACK SINGLET AND GUMBOOTS OWNED BY A MR. FRED DAGG MAKES A SPECIAL PUBLIC APPEARANCE. PLUS, THE NATIONAL BACKYARD BIRD SURVEY IS ON, SO WHAT EXACTLY IS THIS STRANGE NEW SPECIES? WOO. WOO WOO. WOO. WOO. - I was seven months' pregnant, and I contracted COVID at a tangi. We spent 34 days in isolation. I couldn't breathe well on my own. I ended up contracting COVID pneumonia. I was the first hapu mama in Jet Park. It was really terrifying for us. I don't want other whanau to have to go through what I've been through. If there's a way that that can be prevented, I would 100% take it. NAU MAI HOKI MAI. WELCOME BACK, NICE TO HAVE YOU WITH US. HE'S ONE OF OUR GREATEST COMEDIANS, AND NOW JOHN CLARKE'S ENTIRE COLLECTION IS AVAILABLE AT NEW ZEALAND ON SCREEN, FOR FANS, OLD AND NEW. AS RHYS MATHEWSON REPORTS, IF IT WEREN'T FOR JOHN CLARKE AND THE WONDERFUL FRED DAGG, WHERE WOULD WE BE? ALL RIGHT, KICK IT IN THE GUTS, TREV. JOHN CLARKE ` THE MAN WHO CHANGED THE FACE OF NEW ZEALAND COMEDY. I THINK I MIGHT GO INTO TOWN TODAY. SO I WANT THE NUMBER PLATE TAKEN OFF THE TRACTOR, PUT ON THE LAND ROVER. ON TUESDAY NIGHT AT TE PAPA, OLD COLLEAGUES, FRIENDS AND FANS CELEBRATED THE LAUNCH OF THE LEGENDARY BACK CATALOGUE. HE CHANGED EVERYTHING FOR US. HE WAS THE GUY THAT GAVE US THE CONFIDENCE TO BE NEW ZEALAND COMEDIANS. HE'S THE BEGINNING. AND HIS IMPACT IS STILL FELT TODAY. FOR SATIRIST TOM SAINSBURY, HOSTING THE EVENT WAS A PRIVILEGE. I'M 100% JOHN CLARKE FAN. WHAT I KIND OF LOVED ABOUT, LIKE, FRED DAGG WAS THAT HE WAS KIND OF LIKE MY DAD'S FRIENDS. LIKE, I WAS SEEING MY DAD, WHO'S A FARMER, AND HIS MATES KIND OF REPRESENTED ON SCREEN, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS REALLY FUNNY. NOW KIWIS OF ALL AGES CAN RELIVE THE MOMENTS OF MAGIC HE BROUGHT TO OUR SCREENS. THIS WOULD BE THE BASIC WORLD. ANYTHING THAT'S IN THE WORLD WOULD BE IN HERE, AND ANYTHING THAT'S NOT HERE, YOU CAN PRETTY SAFELY ASSUME IT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE WORLD AT ALL. ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING THING THAT HAPPENED IN TIMARU FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES NOW, THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF FILM! THE EVENT WAS ALSO A CHANCE FOR FRIENDS OF JOHN CLARKE TO REMINISCE. I WAS ASKED TO UPDATE ON NEW ZEALAND ARTS ALL BLACK 15, WHICH IS TERRIFIC, AND I SPENT HOURS GETTING JOHN'S FACE RIGHT. WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE THE HALLMARKS OF JOHN CLARKE'S COMEDY? DRYNESS. HE WAS DROLL. HE DIDN'T TRY TOO HARD. JOHN DID ROYAL WEDDINGS AS A PETER KELLY RACING COMMENTARY. (AS PETER KELLY) 'PRINCESS ANNE AND CAPTAIN MARK PHILLIPS 'GOING DOWN THE AISLE NOW. 'YOU KNOW PRINCESS ANNE BY HER NOSE. I WOULDN'T WANT TO PICK THAT.' HE WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR HOW TO LIVE A LIFE REALLY WELL AND MAKE THE MOST OF IT. OH, WELL, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE. I HAVEN'T. BEST KAI ON THE COAST. IF JOHN CLARKE WERE HERE TONIGHT, WHAT WOULD HE THINK OF AN EVENT LIKE THIS? HE'D BE POOH-POOHING IT. HE WOULD PROBABLY SAY IT'S NOT... AN ENTIRELY UNSATISFACTORY RESULT. (LAUGHS) EVENTUALLY, JOHN BUGGERED OFF TO AUSTRALIA AND FOUND MORE SUCCESS WITH THE CURRENT AFFAIR. WELL, I'M NOT SAYING IT WASN'T SAFE. IT'S JUST PERHAPS NOT QUITE AS SAFE AS SOME OF THE OTHER ONES. WHY? WELL, SOME OF THEM ARE BUILT SO THE FRONT DOESN'T FALL OFF AT ALL. WASN'T THIS BUILT SO THE FRONT WOULDN'T FALL OFF? OBVIOUSLY NOT. HOW DO YOU KNOW? WELL, COS THE FRONT FELL OFF. BUT IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME FRED DAGG'S BEEN AT THE MUSEUM. IN 2002, JOHN ASKED TE PAPA TO BRING HIS ICONIC OUTFIT HOME. I WAS SENT TO MELBOURNE TO MEET HIM, AND THEN HE HANDED THE OUTFIT TO ME. DID YOU HAVE TO WASH IT WHEN IT ARRIVED? NO, WE DIDN'T, THOUGH I DID HAVE TO WASH THE GUMBOOTS. BUT THAT WAS FOR CUSTOMS, BECAUSE JOHN CLARKE HAD RECENTLY MOWN THE LAWN WEARING HIS GUMBOOTS, AND I GOT THEM BACK TO THE HOTEL, AND I REALISED WITH A PANIC THAT I COULDN'T HAND THEM OVER WITH GRASS AND DIRT ON THEM. SO HE WAS STILL WEARING THEM OUT AND ABOUT JUST DAY TO DAY? YEAH, THEY WERE IN THE BACK OF HIS CAR. BUT THIS LOOK BACK AT HIS LEGACY WAS FOR SOME BITTERSWEET. IT'S VERY HARD TO TALK ABOUT HIM IN... IN THE ABSTRACT. ALL I KNOW IS WE MISS HIM, AND I'M SURE NEW ZEALAND MISSES HIM. # ...IN YOUR GUMBOOTS. (APPLAUSE) THERE'S A HUGE SCIENCE PROJECT UNDERWAY AROUND NEW ZEALAND THAT'S RATHER UNIQUE, BECAUSE THE RESEARCHERS DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A MASTERS OR PHD. NO, THEY JUST NEED A BACKYARD, A KEEN SET OF EARS, AND PEN AND PAPER. CONFUSED? LET ME EXPLAIN. (RUSTED ROOT'S 'SEND ME ON MY WAY') TONIGHT ON HILARY HELPS, I'M GOING BUSH, TO HELP WITH NEW ZEALAND'S ANNUAL BIRD SURVEY. IT'S KIND OF LIKE A CENSUS FOR BIRDS. THE THING IS, THOUGH, WE ALL NEED TO HELP. TIM LOVEGROVE'S GIVING ME A HAND TO RECOGNISE THE RIGHT BIRDSONGS. HE'S AN EXPERT WITH A FANCY TITLE, BUT, PUT SIMPLY, HE'S A BIRD WHISPERER. THAT'S A LOVELY PURE BELL NOTE, THERE. (WHISTLES) SINCE 2007, 40,000 KIWIS HAVE BEEN COUNTING THE BIRDS IN THEIR BACKYARD IN NEW ZEALAND'S LONGEST RUNNING CITIZEN SCIENCE PROJECT. JUST FIND A NICE VANTAGE POINT IN THE GARDEN, AND WE SIT THERE FOR AN HOUR, AND JUST OBSERVE. YOU NOTE THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF ANY SPECIES YOU SEE. SO YOU PUT DOWN 'FIVE BLACKBIRDS' AND SO FORTH. WHY IS IT SO IMPORTANT TO COUNT BIRDS? WELL, IT REFLECTS THE STATE OF OUR ENVIRONMENT. THE MORE BIRDS, THE BETTER SHAPE WE'RE IN. AND BASED ON PAST SURVEYS, WE'RE DOING OK WITH SOME SPECIES. JUST THE SHEER NUMBERS OF RECORDS COMING IN, WE CAN START TO SEE THESE MAJOR TRENDS GOING ON. AND IN THE GARDEN BIRD SURVEY, IT'S SHOWING US THAT TUI AND KEREREU HAVE INCREASED, FOR INSTANCE. AND I PUT MY TEETH ON IT. (REED MAKES BIRDSONG) IF YOU WANT TO SPOT MORE BIRDS, YOU CAN LEARN THEIR LANGUAGE TO LURE THEM CLOSER. (REED MAKES BIRDSONG) THAT'S AMAZING. (LAUGHS) SORRY, IT'S A BIT OF AN OBSTACLE COURSE FOR YOU. NO, THIS IS GOOD. THIS IS WHY WE WORE TRAMPING BOOTS. OH, LOOK. LOOK. THERE HE IS. EW, THAT'S CLOSE ENOUGH, THANK YOU. (LAUGHS) I'LL ADMIT, IT'S NOT MY CUP OF TEA, BUT THEY LOVE MEALWORMS, TOO. WHISPERS: WE'VE MET SOME OTHER TWITCHERS. THEY'VE JUST GIVEN THE SIGNAL ` SHH. AND THAT MEANS, 'BE QUIET.' SO SHH. # OH, YEAH. # OH, YEAH. # OH, YEAH. WHITEHEADS CALLING UP IN THE CANOPY, THE SADDLEBACK CALLING IN THE BACKGROUND. THERE'S A LOVELY BIRDSONG GOING, BELLBIRDS IN THE DISTANCE. DO YOU IMAGINE IN YOUR MIND WHAT'S GOING ON? OH, YES. DO YOU VISUALISE THE BIRDS? YES, YES. SOMEBODY'S FOUND A MOREPORK, AND THEY'RE TELLING EVERYBODY ELSE IT'S THERE, ALERTING EVERYBODY, 'HEY, THERE'S A PREDATOR HERE. WE'VE GOTTA WATCH THIS.' IT'S QUITE THE DRAMA. THANKS TO TIM, I'M SET TO START COUNTING ` SURVEYING PEN AT THE READY, BINOCULARS POISED. (IMITATES TUI CALL) (LIGHT ORCHESTRAL MUSIC) OH, FOR GOODNESS SAKE. WHAT ARE YOU DOING UP THERE? (HOOTS) THIS WAS MEANT TO BE MY STORY. YOU GONNA COUNT ME? I DID COUNT JEREMY, BUT AS AN UNLISTED SPECIES, WE HAD TO CONSULT THE EXPERTS FOR AN APPROPRIATE NAME ` APT, I THOUGHT. VERY APT. THE GARDEN BIRD SURVEY STARTS ON SATURDAY AND RUNS THROUGH TO THE 4TH OF JULY. WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A MOMENT. ON THE SHOW TOMORROW, WE'RE GIVING AWAY THE $81,000 VOLKSWAGEN V6 AMAROK. WILL IT BE YOUR DOOR WE'LL BE KNOCKING ON? THOSE WERE OUR PEOPLE TODAY ` THAT WAS SEVEN SHARP TONIGHT. MY IMPOSSIBLE HOUSE IS UP NEXT. WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW. PO MARIE, CHEERIO. CAPTIONS BY ANNIE CURTIS, STEFFI DRYDEN AND PHOEBE UPTON CAPTIONS WERE MADE WITH THE SUPPORT OF NZ ON AIR.