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INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: Almighty INTERPRETER: Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. I I wish I wish to I wish to make I wish to make a I wish to make a ministerial I wish to make a ministerial statement. I wish to make a ministerial statement. We've I wish to make a ministerial statement. We've been I wish to make a ministerial statement. We've been at I wish to make a ministerial statement. We've been at Alert I wish to make a ministerial statement. We've been at Alert Level statement. We've been at Alert Level two statement. We've been at Alert Level two in statement. We've been at Alert Level two in Wellington statement. We've been at Alert Level two in Wellington for statement. We've been at Alert Level two in Wellington for the statement. We've been at Alert Level two in Wellington for the past statement. We've been at Alert Level two in Wellington for the past week two in Wellington for the past week out two in Wellington for the past week out of two in Wellington for the past week out of an two in Wellington for the past week out of an abundance two in Wellington for the past week out of an abundance of two in Wellington for the past week out of an abundance of caution, out of an abundance of caution, given out of an abundance of caution, given the out of an abundance of caution, given the large out of an abundance of caution, given the large number out of an abundance of caution, given the large number of out of an abundance of caution, given the large number of highly given the large number of highly populated given the large number of highly populated places given the large number of highly populated places a given the large number of highly populated places a recent given the large number of highly populated places a recent case populated places a recent case visited populated places a recent case visited while populated places a recent case visited while potentially populated places a recent case visited while potentially infectious visited while potentially infectious with visited while potentially infectious with the visited while potentially infectious with the Delta visited while potentially infectious with the Delta variant visited while potentially infectious with the Delta variant of visited while potentially infectious with the Delta variant of COVID-19. with the Delta variant of COVID-19. 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Given there have been no cases Given there have been no cases detected, Given there have been no cases detected, nearly Given there have been no cases detected, nearly 2,500 Given there have been no cases detected, nearly 2,500 negative detected, nearly 2,500 negative results detected, nearly 2,500 negative results from detected, nearly 2,500 negative results from potential detected, nearly 2,500 negative results from potential contacts detected, nearly 2,500 negative results from potential contacts of results from potential contacts of the results from potential contacts of the case, results from potential contacts of the case, including results from potential contacts of the case, including repeat results from potential contacts of the case, including repeat negative the case, including repeat negative results the case, including repeat negative results from the case, including repeat negative results from visitors the case, including repeat negative results from visitors from the case, including repeat negative results from visitors from that results from visitors from that person's results from visitors from that person's close results from visitors from that person's close contacts, results from visitors from that person's close contacts, Cabinet results from visitors from that person's close contacts, Cabinet has person's close contacts, Cabinet has decided person's close contacts, Cabinet has decided to person's close contacts, Cabinet has decided to shift person's close contacts, Cabinet has decided to shift Wellington person's close contacts, Cabinet has decided to shift Wellington to person's close contacts, Cabinet has decided to shift Wellington to Alert decided to shift Wellington to Alert Level decided to shift Wellington to Alert Level 1 decided to shift Wellington to Alert Level 1 from decided to shift Wellington to Alert Level 1 from 11:59pm decided to shift Wellington to Alert Level 1 from 11:59pm tonight. decided to shift Wellington to Alert Level 1 from 11:59pm tonight. We decided to shift Wellington to Alert Level 1 from 11:59pm tonight. We are Level 1 from 11:59pm tonight. We are confident Level 1 from 11:59pm tonight. We are confident the Level 1 from 11:59pm tonight. We are confident the risk Level 1 from 11:59pm tonight. We are confident the risk of Level 1 from 11:59pm tonight. We are confident the risk of community confident the risk of community transmission confident the risk of community transmission from confident the risk of community transmission from that confident the risk of community transmission from that case confident the risk of community transmission from that case is confident the risk of community transmission from that case is low. transmission from that case is low. I transmission from that case is low. I ask transmission from that case is low. I ask all transmission from that case is low. I ask all New transmission from that case is low. I ask all New Zealanders transmission from that case is low. I ask all New Zealanders to transmission from that case is low. I ask all New Zealanders to remain I ask all New Zealanders to remain vigilant I ask all New Zealanders to remain vigilant and I ask all New Zealanders to remain vigilant and stay I ask all New Zealanders to remain vigilant and stay on I ask all New Zealanders to remain vigilant and stay on high I ask all New Zealanders to remain vigilant and stay on high alert vigilant and stay on high alert until vigilant and stay on high alert until a vigilant and stay on high alert until a full vigilant and stay on high alert until a full 14 vigilant and stay on high alert until a full 14 days vigilant and stay on high alert until a full 14 days has vigilant and stay on high alert until a full 14 days has passed until a full 14 days has passed since until a full 14 days has passed since the until a full 14 days has passed since the case until a full 14 days has passed since the case - until a full 14 days has passed since the case - that until a full 14 days has passed since the case - that Sydney until a full 14 days has passed since the case - that Sydney case until a full 14 days has passed since the case - that Sydney case - since the case - that Sydney case - left since the case - that Sydney case - left New since the case - that Sydney case - left New Zealand. since the case - that Sydney case - left New Zealand. Testing since the case - that Sydney case - left New Zealand. Testing centres left New Zealand. Testing centres will left New Zealand. Testing centres will remain left New Zealand. Testing centres will remain open left New Zealand. Testing centres will remain open in left New Zealand. Testing centres will remain open in Wellington will remain open in Wellington Central, will remain open in Wellington Central, the will remain open in Wellington Central, the Hutt will remain open in Wellington Central, the Hutt Valley will remain open in Wellington Central, the Hutt Valley and will remain open in Wellington Central, the Hutt Valley and the Central, the Hutt Valley and the wide Central, the Hutt Valley and the wide - Central, the Hutt Valley and the wide - Wairarapa. Central, the Hutt Valley and the wide - Wairarapa. People Central, the Hutt Valley and the wide - Wairarapa. People who Central, the Hutt Valley and the wide - Wairarapa. People who haven't wide - Wairarapa. People who haven't checked wide - Wairarapa. People who haven't checked locations wide - Wairarapa. People who haven't checked locations of wide - Wairarapa. People who haven't checked locations of interest wide - Wairarapa. People who haven't checked locations of interest should checked locations of interest should do checked locations of interest should do so checked locations of interest should do so and checked locations of interest should do so and get checked locations of interest should do so and get a checked locations of interest should do so and get a test checked locations of interest should do so and get a test if checked locations of interest should do so and get a test if they checked locations of interest should do so and get a test if they have do so and get a test if they have been do so and get a test if they have been to do so and get a test if they have been to that do so and get a test if they have been to that place do so and get a test if they have been to that place in do so and get a test if they have been to that place in the do so and get a test if they have been to that place in the specified been to that place in the specified time been to that place in the specified time period, been to that place in the specified time period, or been to that place in the specified time period, or if been to that place in the specified time period, or if they been to that place in the specified time period, or if they have been to that place in the specified time period, or if they have cold been to that place in the specified time period, or if they have cold or time period, or if they have cold or flu time period, or if they have cold or flu symptoms, time period, or if they have cold or flu symptoms, any time period, or if they have cold or flu symptoms, any aches time period, or if they have cold or flu symptoms, any aches or time period, or if they have cold or flu symptoms, any aches or pains, flu symptoms, any aches or pains, they flu symptoms, any aches or pains, they should flu symptoms, any aches or pains, they should stay flu symptoms, any aches or pains, they should stay home flu symptoms, any aches or pains, they should stay home and flu symptoms, any aches or pains, they should stay home and get flu symptoms, any aches or pains, they should stay home and get a they should stay home and get a test. they should stay home and get a test. Cabinet they should stay home and get a test. Cabinet has they should stay home and get a test. Cabinet has agreed they should stay home and get a test. Cabinet has agreed to they should stay home and get a test. Cabinet has agreed to extend test. Cabinet has agreed to extend the test. Cabinet has agreed to extend the travel test. Cabinet has agreed to extend the travel pause. test. Cabinet has agreed to extend the travel pause. From test. Cabinet has agreed to extend the travel pause. From 11:59pm test. Cabinet has agreed to extend the travel pause. From 11:59pm on the travel pause. From 11:59pm on Sunday the travel pause. From 11:59pm on Sunday 4 the travel pause. From 11:59pm on Sunday 4 July, the travel pause. From 11:59pm on Sunday 4 July, New the travel pause. From 11:59pm on Sunday 4 July, New Zealand the travel pause. From 11:59pm on Sunday 4 July, New Zealand will the travel pause. From 11:59pm on Sunday 4 July, New Zealand will lift Sunday 4 July, New Zealand will lift the Sunday 4 July, New Zealand will lift the pause Sunday 4 July, New Zealand will lift the pause to Sunday 4 July, New Zealand will lift the pause to allow Sunday 4 July, New Zealand will lift the pause to allow travel Sunday 4 July, New Zealand will lift the pause to allow travel to Sunday 4 July, New Zealand will lift the pause to allow travel to and the pause to allow travel to and from the pause to allow travel to and from South the pause to allow travel to and from South Australia, the pause to allow travel to and from South Australia, ACT, the pause to allow travel to and from South Australia, ACT, Tasmania, from South Australia, ACT, Tasmania, and from South Australia, ACT, Tasmania, and Victoria. from South Australia, ACT, Tasmania, and Victoria. That from South Australia, ACT, Tasmania, and Victoria. That will from South Australia, ACT, Tasmania, and Victoria. That will be from South Australia, ACT, Tasmania, and Victoria. That will be under and Victoria. That will be under review and Victoria. That will be under review until and Victoria. That will be under review until that and Victoria. That will be under review until that time. and Victoria. That will be under review until that time. The and Victoria. That will be under review until that time. The health review until that time. The health advice review until that time. The health advice is review until that time. The health advice is that review until that time. The health advice is that the review until that time. The health advice is that the spread review until that time. The health advice is that the spread of advice is that the spread of COVID-19 advice is that the spread of COVID-19 cases advice is that the spread of COVID-19 cases in advice is that the spread of COVID-19 cases in those advice is that the spread of COVID-19 cases in those parts advice is that the spread of COVID-19 cases in those parts of COVID-19 cases in those parts of Australia COVID-19 cases in those parts of Australia have COVID-19 cases in those parts of Australia have been COVID-19 cases in those parts of Australia have been contained COVID-19 cases in those parts of Australia have been contained at Australia have been contained at this Australia have been contained at this point. Australia have been contained at this point. There's Australia have been contained at this point. There's robust this point. There's robust surveillance this point. There's robust surveillance testing this point. There's robust surveillance testing and this point. There's robust surveillance testing and contact surveillance testing and contact tracing surveillance testing and contact tracing to surveillance testing and contact tracing to detect surveillance testing and contact tracing to detect and surveillance testing and contact tracing to detect and manage surveillance testing and contact tracing to detect and manage cases tracing to detect and manage cases and tracing to detect and manage cases and adequate tracing to detect and manage cases and adequate border tracing to detect and manage cases and adequate border controls tracing to detect and manage cases and adequate border controls are tracing to detect and manage cases and adequate border controls are in and adequate border controls are in place and adequate border controls are in place to and adequate border controls are in place to prevent and adequate border controls are in place to prevent the and adequate border controls are in place to prevent the spread and adequate border controls are in place to prevent the spread of and adequate border controls are in place to prevent the spread of new place to prevent the spread of new cases. place to prevent the spread of new cases. Officials place to prevent the spread of new cases. Officials will place to prevent the spread of new cases. Officials will keep place to prevent the spread of new cases. Officials will keep a place to prevent the spread of new cases. Officials will keep a close cases. Officials will keep a close eye cases. Officials will keep a close eye on cases. Officials will keep a close eye on the cases. Officials will keep a close eye on the situation cases. Officials will keep a close eye on the situation in cases. Officials will keep a close eye on the situation in these eye on the situation in these states, eye on the situation in these states, however, eye on the situation in these states, however, Cabinet eye on the situation in these states, however, Cabinet has eye on the situation in these states, however, Cabinet has decided states, however, Cabinet has decided to states, however, Cabinet has decided to extend states, however, Cabinet has decided to extend requirement states, however, Cabinet has decided to extend requirement for states, however, Cabinet has decided to extend requirement for people to extend requirement for people coming to extend requirement for people coming to to extend requirement for people coming to New to extend requirement for people coming to New Zealand to extend requirement for people coming to New Zealand to to extend requirement for people coming to New Zealand to include to extend requirement for people coming to New Zealand to include a coming to New Zealand to include a pre-departure coming to New Zealand to include a pre-departure test. coming to New Zealand to include a pre-departure test. This coming to New Zealand to include a pre-departure test. This means coming to New Zealand to include a pre-departure test. This means that pre-departure test. This means that all pre-departure test. This means that all travellers pre-departure test. This means that all travellers eligible pre-departure test. This means that all travellers eligible to pre-departure test. This means that all travellers eligible to fly pre-departure test. This means that all travellers eligible to fly to all travellers eligible to fly to New all travellers eligible to fly to New Zealand all travellers eligible to fly to New Zealand will all travellers eligible to fly to New Zealand will now all travellers eligible to fly to New Zealand will now be all travellers eligible to fly to New Zealand will now be required all travellers eligible to fly to New Zealand will now be required to New Zealand will now be required to have New Zealand will now be required to have a New Zealand will now be required to have a pre-departure New Zealand will now be required to have a pre-departure test New Zealand will now be required to have a pre-departure test within New Zealand will now be required to have a pre-departure test within 72 have a pre-departure test within 72 hours have a pre-departure test within 72 hours of have a pre-departure test within 72 hours of when have a pre-departure test within 72 hours of when they have a pre-departure test within 72 hours of when they are have a pre-departure test within 72 hours of when they are leaving hours of when they are leaving Australia. hours of when they are leaving Australia. To hours of when they are leaving Australia. To be hours of when they are leaving Australia. To be eligible hours of when they are leaving Australia. To be eligible to hours of when they are leaving Australia. To be eligible to fly, Australia. To be eligible to fly, travellers Australia. To be eligible to fly, travellers must Australia. To be eligible to fly, travellers must not Australia. To be eligible to fly, travellers must not have Australia. To be eligible to fly, travellers must not have been Australia. To be eligible to fly, travellers must not have been in travellers must not have been in Queensland, travellers must not have been in Queensland, the travellers must not have been in Queensland, the Northern travellers must not have been in Queensland, the Northern Territory, Queensland, the Northern Territory, or Queensland, the Northern Territory, or Western Queensland, the Northern Territory, or Western Australia Queensland, the Northern Territory, or Western Australia on Queensland, the Northern Territory, or Western Australia on or Queensland, the Northern Territory, or Western Australia on or after or Western Australia on or after 1030pm or Western Australia on or after 1030pm New or Western Australia on or after 1030pm New Zealand or Western Australia on or after 1030pm New Zealand time or Western Australia on or after 1030pm New Zealand time on or Western Australia on or after 1030pm New Zealand time on 26 or Western Australia on or after 1030pm New Zealand time on 26 June 1030pm New Zealand time on 26 June and 1030pm New Zealand time on 26 June and not 1030pm New Zealand time on 26 June and not in 1030pm New Zealand time on 26 June and not in New 1030pm New Zealand time on 26 June and not in New South 1030pm New Zealand time on 26 June and not in New South Wales 1030pm New Zealand time on 26 June and not in New South Wales on 1030pm New Zealand time on 26 June and not in New South Wales on or and not in New South Wales on or after and not in New South Wales on or after 11:59pm and not in New South Wales on or after 11:59pm New and not in New South Wales on or after 11:59pm New Zealand and not in New South Wales on or after 11:59pm New Zealand on and not in New South Wales on or after 11:59pm New Zealand on 22 after 11:59pm New Zealand on 22 June. after 11:59pm New Zealand on 22 June. We after 11:59pm New Zealand on 22 June. We do after 11:59pm New Zealand on 22 June. We do need after 11:59pm New Zealand on 22 June. We do need to after 11:59pm New Zealand on 22 June. We do need to keep after 11:59pm New Zealand on 22 June. We do need to keep monitoring June. We do need to keep monitoring the June. We do need to keep monitoring the situation June. We do need to keep monitoring the situation closely. June. We do need to keep monitoring the situation closely. Cabinet the situation closely. Cabinet carefully the situation closely. Cabinet carefully weighed the situation closely. Cabinet carefully weighed up the situation closely. Cabinet carefully weighed up the the situation closely. Cabinet carefully weighed up the evidence carefully weighed up the evidence and carefully weighed up the evidence and we carefully weighed up the evidence and we consider carefully weighed up the evidence and we consider a carefully weighed up the evidence and we consider a partial carefully weighed up the evidence and we consider a partial lifting carefully weighed up the evidence and we consider a partial lifting of and we consider a partial lifting of the and we consider a partial lifting of the pause and we consider a partial lifting of the pause to and we consider a partial lifting of the pause to be and we consider a partial lifting of the pause to be a and we consider a partial lifting of the pause to be a proportionate the pause to be a proportionate action, the pause to be a proportionate action, when the pause to be a proportionate action, when it's the pause to be a proportionate action, when it's bolstered the pause to be a proportionate action, when it's bolstered by the pause to be a proportionate action, when it's bolstered by the action, when it's bolstered by the introduction action, when it's bolstered by the introduction of action, when it's bolstered by the introduction of mandatory introduction of mandatory pre-departure introduction of mandatory pre-departure testing. introduction of mandatory pre-departure testing. Today's pre-departure testing. Today's decision pre-departure testing. Today's decision gives pre-departure testing. Today's decision gives airlines, pre-departure testing. Today's decision gives airlines, passengers, decision gives airlines, passengers, government decision gives airlines, passengers, government officials decision gives airlines, passengers, government officials and decision gives airlines, passengers, government officials and others decision gives airlines, passengers, government officials and others time government officials and others time to government officials and others time to prepare government officials and others time to prepare for government officials and others time to prepare for flights government officials and others time to prepare for flights back government officials and others time to prepare for flights back from to prepare for flights back from those to prepare for flights back from those states to prepare for flights back from those states that to prepare for flights back from those states that we to prepare for flights back from those states that we consider to prepare for flights back from those states that we consider to to prepare for flights back from those states that we consider to be those states that we consider to be low those states that we consider to be low risk those states that we consider to be low risk when those states that we consider to be low risk when the those states that we consider to be low risk when the travel those states that we consider to be low risk when the travel pause low risk when the travel pause lifts. low risk when the travel pause lifts. We low risk when the travel pause lifts. We understand low risk when the travel pause lifts. We understand how low risk when the travel pause lifts. We understand how important lifts. We understand how important the lifts. We understand how important the travel lifts. We understand how important the travel bubble lifts. We understand how important the travel bubble is lifts. We understand how important the travel bubble is for lifts. We understand how important the travel bubble is for families the travel bubble is for families and the travel bubble is for families and businesses, the travel bubble is for families and businesses, but the travel bubble is for families and businesses, but we the travel bubble is for families and businesses, but we also the travel bubble is for families and businesses, but we also want the travel bubble is for families and businesses, but we also want to and businesses, but we also want to avoid and businesses, but we also want to avoid the and businesses, but we also want to avoid the situation and businesses, but we also want to avoid the situation where and businesses, but we also want to avoid the situation where we and businesses, but we also want to avoid the situation where we have and businesses, but we also want to avoid the situation where we have to avoid the situation where we have to respond avoid the situation where we have to respond to avoid the situation where we have to respond to cases avoid the situation where we have to respond to cases here avoid the situation where we have to respond to cases here in avoid the situation where we have to respond to cases here in New respond to cases here in New Zealand. respond to cases here in New Zealand. 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Chris stay at COVID-19 Alert Level 1. Chris Bishop. stay at COVID-19 Alert Level 1. Chris Bishop. I stay at COVID-19 Alert Level 1. Chris Bishop. I thank stay at COVID-19 Alert Level 1. Chris Bishop. I thank the stay at COVID-19 Alert Level 1. Chris Bishop. I thank the minister Chris Bishop. I thank the minister for Chris Bishop. I thank the minister for his Chris Bishop. I thank the minister for his remarks. Chris Bishop. I thank the minister for his remarks. I Chris Bishop. I thank the minister for his remarks. I just Chris Bishop. I thank the minister for his remarks. I just want Chris Bishop. I thank the minister for his remarks. I just want to for his remarks. I just want to focus for his remarks. I just want to focus on for his remarks. I just want to focus on a for his remarks. I just want to focus on a couple for his remarks. I just want to focus on a couple of for his remarks. I just want to focus on a couple of things, for his remarks. I just want to focus on a couple of things, the focus on a couple of things, the first focus on a couple of things, the first is, focus on a couple of things, the first is, just focus on a couple of things, the first is, just in focus on a couple of things, the first is, just in relation focus on a couple of things, the first is, just in relation to focus on a couple of things, the first is, just in relation to the first is, just in relation to the Wellington first is, just in relation to the Wellington situation first is, just in relation to the Wellington situation over first is, just in relation to the Wellington situation over the first is, just in relation to the Wellington situation over the last Wellington situation over the last week Wellington situation over the last week or Wellington situation over the last week or so, Wellington situation over the last week or so, and Wellington situation over the last week or so, and obviously Wellington situation over the last week or so, and obviously we're Wellington situation over the last week or so, and obviously we're very week or so, and obviously we're very - week or so, and obviously we're very - we're week or so, and obviously we're very - we're grateful week or so, and obviously we're very - we're grateful and week or so, and obviously we're very - we're grateful and pleased week or so, and obviously we're very - we're grateful and pleased that - we're grateful and pleased that New - we're grateful and pleased that New Zealand - we're grateful and pleased that New Zealand and - we're grateful and pleased that New Zealand and Wellington - we're grateful and pleased that New Zealand and Wellington has New Zealand and Wellington has managed New Zealand and Wellington has managed to New Zealand and Wellington has managed to avoid New Zealand and Wellington has managed to avoid an New Zealand and Wellington has managed to avoid an outbreak. New Zealand and Wellington has managed to avoid an outbreak. Will managed to avoid an outbreak. Will the managed to avoid an outbreak. Will the Government managed to avoid an outbreak. Will the Government be managed to avoid an outbreak. Will the Government be publishing managed to avoid an outbreak. Will the Government be publishing the the Government be publishing the contact the Government be publishing the contact tracing the Government be publishing the contact tracing system the Government be publishing the contact tracing system metrics the Government be publishing the contact tracing system metrics and contact tracing system metrics and applicable contact tracing system metrics and applicable standards contact tracing system metrics and applicable standards that contact tracing system metrics and applicable standards that are applicable standards that are identified applicable standards that are identified by applicable standards that are identified by Dr applicable standards that are identified by Dr Verrall applicable standards that are identified by Dr Verrall in applicable standards that are identified by Dr Verrall in a identified by Dr Verrall in a previous identified by Dr Verrall in a previous role identified by Dr Verrall in a previous role before identified by Dr Verrall in a previous role before her identified by Dr Verrall in a previous role before her current previous role before her current role? previous role before her current role? Yes, previous role before her current role? Yes, it's previous role before her current role? Yes, it's absolutely previous role before her current role? Yes, it's absolutely the role? Yes, it's absolutely the Government's role? Yes, it's absolutely the Government's intention role? Yes, it's absolutely the Government's intention to role? Yes, it's absolutely the Government's intention to publish Government's intention to publish those Government's intention to publish those statistics. Government's intention to publish those statistics. The Government's intention to publish those statistics. The metrics Government's intention to publish those statistics. The metrics are those statistics. The metrics are looking those statistics. The metrics are looking very those statistics. The metrics are looking very good. those statistics. The metrics are looking very good. They're those statistics. The metrics are looking very good. They're ahead those statistics. 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I just wanted to ask the minister if he or wanted to ask the minister if he or Cabinet wanted to ask the minister if he or Cabinet had wanted to ask the minister if he or Cabinet had requested wanted to ask the minister if he or Cabinet had requested any wanted to ask the minister if he or Cabinet had requested any analysis Cabinet had requested any analysis or Cabinet had requested any analysis or advice Cabinet had requested any analysis or advice on Cabinet had requested any analysis or advice on whether Cabinet had requested any analysis or advice on whether the Cabinet had requested any analysis or advice on whether the benefits Cabinet had requested any analysis or advice on whether the benefits of or advice on whether the benefits of the or advice on whether the benefits of the trans-Tasman or advice on whether the benefits of the trans-Tasman travel or advice on whether the benefits of the trans-Tasman travel bubble or advice on whether the benefits of the trans-Tasman travel bubble do the trans-Tasman travel bubble do outweigh the trans-Tasman travel bubble do outweigh the the trans-Tasman travel bubble do outweigh the risks, the trans-Tasman travel bubble do outweigh the risks, particularly outweigh the risks, particularly considering outweigh the risks, particularly considering that outweigh the risks, particularly considering that a outweigh the risks, particularly considering that a number outweigh the risks, particularly considering that a number of outweigh the risks, particularly considering that a number of states considering that a number of states and considering that a number of states and major considering that a number of states and major cities considering that a number of states and major cities have considering that a number of states and major cities have had considering that a number of states and major cities have had some and major cities have had some community and major cities have had some community spread and major cities have had some community spread since and major cities have had some community spread since we and major cities have had some community spread since we opened and major cities have had some community spread since we opened the community spread since we opened the bubble, community spread since we opened the bubble, have community spread since we opened the bubble, have had community spread since we opened the bubble, have had to community spread since we opened the bubble, have had to go community spread since we opened the bubble, have had to go into bubble, have had to go into lockdown, bubble, have had to go into lockdown, and bubble, have had to go into lockdown, and that's bubble, have had to go into lockdown, and that's created bubble, have had to go into lockdown, and that's created a bubble, have had to go into lockdown, and that's created a lot lockdown, and that's created a lot of lockdown, and that's created a lot of uncertainty lockdown, and that's created a lot of uncertainty for lockdown, and that's created a lot of uncertainty for travel lockdown, and that's created a lot of uncertainty for travel backwards of uncertainty for travel backwards and of uncertainty for travel backwards and forwards. of uncertainty for travel backwards and forwards. 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Overall I think the economic benefit to New Zealand of economic benefit to New Zealand of having economic benefit to New Zealand of having Australians economic benefit to New Zealand of having Australians coming economic benefit to New Zealand of having Australians coming here economic benefit to New Zealand of having Australians coming here and having Australians coming here and spending having Australians coming here and spending their having Australians coming here and spending their money having Australians coming here and spending their money here having Australians coming here and spending their money here is having Australians coming here and spending their money here is quite having Australians coming here and spending their money here is quite a spending their money here is quite a significant spending their money here is quite a significant one. spending their money here is quite a significant one. We're spending their money here is quite a significant one. 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I think the risk would be if we saw COVID-19 take off in any part we saw COVID-19 take off in any part of we saw COVID-19 take off in any part of the we saw COVID-19 take off in any part of the country we saw COVID-19 take off in any part of the country and we saw COVID-19 take off in any part of the country and we we saw COVID-19 take off in any part of the country and we had we saw COVID-19 take off in any part of the country and we had to we saw COVID-19 take off in any part of the country and we had to do we saw COVID-19 take off in any part of the country and we had to do more of the country and we had to do more dramatic of the country and we had to do more dramatic lockdowns. of the country and we had to do more dramatic lockdowns. That's of the country and we had to do more dramatic lockdowns. That's something dramatic lockdowns. That's something we're dramatic lockdowns. That's something we're acutely dramatic lockdowns. That's something we're acutely aware dramatic lockdowns. That's something we're acutely aware of. dramatic lockdowns. That's something we're acutely aware of. That's dramatic lockdowns. That's something we're acutely aware of. That's one we're acutely aware of. That's one of we're acutely aware of. That's one of the we're acutely aware of. That's one of the reasons we're acutely aware of. That's one of the reasons why we're acutely aware of. That's one of the reasons why we we're acutely aware of. That's one of the reasons why we made we're acutely aware of. That's one of the reasons why we made a we're acutely aware of. 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Just wondering if there's been any specific quantitification been any specific quantitification of been any specific quantitification of economic been any specific quantitification of economic benefits, been any specific quantitification of economic benefits, whether been any specific quantitification of economic benefits, whether they of economic benefits, whether they have of economic benefits, whether they have flown of economic benefits, whether they have flown through of economic benefits, whether they have flown through from of economic benefits, whether they have flown through from the of economic benefits, whether they have flown through from the bubble, have flown through from the bubble, when have flown through from the bubble, when we have flown through from the bubble, when we have have flown through from the bubble, when we have to have flown through from the bubble, when we have to go have flown through from the bubble, when we have to go into have flown through from the bubble, when we have to go into a have flown through from the bubble, when we have to go into a lock have flown through from the bubble, when we have to go into a lock up, when we have to go into a lock up, and when we have to go into a lock up, and contacts, when we have to go into a lock up, and contacts, casual when we have to go into a lock up, and contacts, casual contacts when we have to go into a lock up, and contacts, casual contacts are and contacts, casual contacts are required and contacts, casual contacts are required to and contacts, casual contacts are required to isolate and contacts, casual contacts are required to isolate for and contacts, casual contacts are required to isolate for potentially required to isolate for potentially two required to isolate for potentially two weeks required to isolate for potentially two weeks following required to isolate for potentially two weeks following exposure required to isolate for potentially two weeks following exposure as two weeks following exposure as happened two weeks following exposure as happened in two weeks following exposure as happened in the two weeks following exposure as happened in the previous two weeks following exposure as happened in the previous week, two weeks following exposure as happened in the previous week, have happened in the previous week, have those happened in the previous week, have those been happened in the previous week, have those been looked happened in the previous week, have those been looked at happened in the previous week, have those been looked at in happened in the previous week, have those been looked at in any happened in the previous week, have those been looked at in any detail? those been looked at in any detail? Yes, those been looked at in any detail? Yes, they those been looked at in any detail? Yes, they have those been looked at in any detail? Yes, they have been. those been looked at in any detail? Yes, they have been. I those been looked at in any detail? Yes, they have been. I don't those been looked at in any detail? Yes, they have been. I don't have Yes, they have been. I don't have access Yes, they have been. I don't have access to Yes, they have been. I don't have access to those. Yes, they have been. I don't have access to those. I'm Yes, they have been. I don't have access to those. I'm not Yes, they have been. I don't have access to those. I'm not the Yes, they have been. I don't have access to those. I'm not the right access to those. I'm not the right minister access to those. I'm not the right minister to access to those. I'm not the right minister to ask access to those. I'm not the right minister to ask that access to those. I'm not the right minister to ask that question access to those. I'm not the right minister to ask that question of. minister to ask that question of. David minister to ask that question of. David Seymour. minister to ask that question of. David Seymour. Thank minister to ask that question of. David Seymour. Thank you, minister to ask that question of. David Seymour. Thank you, Mr David Seymour. Thank you, Mr Speaker. David Seymour. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I David Seymour. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I had David Seymour. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I had to David Seymour. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I had to chuckle David Seymour. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I had to chuckle briefly David Seymour. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I had to chuckle briefly at Speaker. I had to chuckle briefly at the Speaker. I had to chuckle briefly at the minister Speaker. I had to chuckle briefly at the minister referring Speaker. I had to chuckle briefly at the minister referring to Speaker. I had to chuckle briefly at the minister referring to the Speaker. I had to chuckle briefly at the minister referring to the volume the minister referring to the volume of the minister referring to the volume of Australians the minister referring to the volume of Australians coming the minister referring to the volume of Australians coming across the minister referring to the volume of Australians coming across the of Australians coming across the Tasman of Australians coming across the Tasman being of Australians coming across the Tasman being lower of Australians coming across the Tasman being lower than of Australians coming across the Tasman being lower than expected. of Australians coming across the Tasman being lower than expected. I Tasman being lower than expected. I think Tasman being lower than expected. I think he Tasman being lower than expected. I think he meant Tasman being lower than expected. I think he meant the Tasman being lower than expected. 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It's also been very heartening to see the also been very heartening to see the Government also been very heartening to see the Government take also been very heartening to see the Government take an also been very heartening to see the Government take an approach also been very heartening to see the Government take an approach that also been very heartening to see the Government take an approach that is Government take an approach that is closer Government take an approach that is closer to Government take an approach that is closer to the Government take an approach that is closer to the risk Government take an approach that is closer to the risk proportionate closer to the risk proportionate response closer to the risk proportionate response that closer to the risk proportionate response that this closer to the risk proportionate response that this country closer to the risk proportionate response that this country - closer to the risk proportionate response that this country - in response that this country - in fact, response that this country - in fact, all response that this country - in fact, all countries response that this country - in fact, all countries will response that this country - in fact, all countries will need response that this country - in fact, all countries will need - response that this country - in fact, all countries will need - as fact, all countries will need - as COVID fact, all countries will need - as COVID becomes fact, all countries will need - as COVID becomes more fact, all countries will need - as COVID becomes more complex, fact, all countries will need - as COVID becomes more complex, as fact, all countries will need - as COVID becomes more complex, as the COVID becomes more complex, as the world COVID becomes more complex, as the world reopens COVID becomes more complex, as the world reopens and COVID becomes more complex, as the world reopens and reconnects COVID becomes more complex, as the world reopens and reconnects and COVID becomes more complex, as the world reopens and reconnects and the world reopens and reconnects and the way world reopens and reconnects and the way that world reopens and reconnects and the way that the world reopens and reconnects and the way that the Government world reopens and reconnects and the way that the Government has world reopens and reconnects and the way that the Government has chosen way that the Government has chosen to way that the Government has chosen to differentiate way that the Government has chosen to differentiate between way that the Government has chosen to differentiate between Australian to differentiate between Australian states to differentiate between Australian states represents to differentiate between Australian states represents a to differentiate between Australian states represents a large to differentiate between Australian states represents a large advance to differentiate between Australian states represents a large advance on states represents a large advance on the states represents a large advance on the way states represents a large advance on the way that states represents a large advance on the way that they states represents a large advance on the way that they were states represents a large advance on the way that they were talking states represents a large advance on the way that they were talking about the way that they were talking about different the way that they were talking about different Australian the way that they were talking about different Australian states the way that they were talking about different Australian states even different Australian states even just different Australian states even just earlier different Australian states even just earlier this different Australian states even just earlier this year. different Australian states even just earlier this year. 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And then there's the complacency around digital contact complacency around digital contact tracing. complacency around digital contact tracing. 415,000 complacency around digital contact tracing. 415,000 people complacency around digital contact tracing. 415,000 people was complacency around digital contact tracing. 415,000 people was - complacency around digital contact tracing. 415,000 people was - or tracing. 415,000 people was - or scans tracing. 415,000 people was - or scans - tracing. 415,000 people was - or scans - rather, tracing. 415,000 people was - or scans - rather, was tracing. 415,000 people was - or scans - rather, was the tracing. 415,000 people was - or scans - rather, was the nadir tracing. 415,000 people was - or scans - rather, was the nadir for scans - rather, was the nadir for scanning. scans - rather, was the nadir for scanning. It's scans - rather, was the nadir for scanning. It's just scans - rather, was the nadir for scanning. 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Thank happened is not good enough, we need to be better next time. Thank you happened is not good enough, we need to be better next time. Thank you Mr to be better next time. Thank you Mr Speaker. to be better next time. Thank you Mr Speaker. I to be better next time. Thank you Mr Speaker. I seek to be better next time. Thank you Mr Speaker. I seek leave to be better next time. Thank you Mr Speaker. I seek leave of to be better next time. Thank you Mr Speaker. I seek leave of the to be better next time. Thank you Mr Speaker. I seek leave of the house Speaker. I seek leave of the house to Speaker. I seek leave of the house to give Speaker. I seek leave of the house to give a Speaker. I seek leave of the house to give a short Speaker. I seek leave of the house to give a short call Speaker. I seek leave of the house to give a short call on Speaker. I seek leave of the house to give a short call on behalf Speaker. 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We therefore often those who bear the brunt of viruses. We therefore have often those who bear the brunt of viruses. We therefore have a often those who bear the brunt of viruses. We therefore have a few viruses. We therefore have a few questions viruses. We therefore have a few questions to viruses. We therefore have a few questions to the viruses. We therefore have a few questions to the minister viruses. We therefore have a few questions to the minister around viruses. We therefore have a few questions to the minister around how questions to the minister around how we questions to the minister around how we prevent questions to the minister around how we prevent this questions to the minister around how we prevent this and questions to the minister around how we prevent this and improve questions to the minister around how we prevent this and improve the we prevent this and improve the situation we prevent this and improve the situation for we prevent this and improve the situation for the we prevent this and improve the situation for the future. we prevent this and improve the situation for the future. Dr we prevent this and improve the situation for the future. Dr Jen we prevent this and improve the situation for the future. Dr Jen sen situation for the future. Dr Jen sen predicted situation for the future. Dr Jen sen predicted we situation for the future. Dr Jen sen predicted we would situation for the future. 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In this particular case, we have now contact traced case, we have now contact traced 2609 case, we have now contact traced 2609 potential case, we have now contact traced 2609 potential close case, we have now contact traced 2609 potential close or case, we have now contact traced 2609 potential close or casual 2609 potential close or casual contacts 2609 potential close or casual contacts for 2609 potential close or casual contacts for one 2609 potential close or casual contacts for one single 2609 potential close or casual contacts for one single case. 2609 potential close or casual contacts for one single case. That contacts for one single case. That is contacts for one single case. That is not contacts for one single case. That is not what contacts for one single case. That is not what the contacts for one single case. That is not what the performance contacts for one single case. 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The vaccine doses so far have gone to Maori. The supply vaccine doses so far have gone to Maori. The supply of vaccine doses so far have gone to Maori. The supply of vaccines vaccine doses so far have gone to Maori. The supply of vaccines is Maori. The supply of vaccines is constrained. Maori. The supply of vaccines is constrained. We're Maori. The supply of vaccines is constrained. We're getting Maori. The supply of vaccines is constrained. We're getting bigger constrained. We're getting bigger supplies constrained. We're getting bigger supplies of constrained. We're getting bigger supplies of vaccines constrained. We're getting bigger supplies of vaccines arriving constrained. We're getting bigger supplies of vaccines arriving in constrained. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: My question is to the Minister of Finance: What My question is to the Minister of Finance: What recent My question is to the Minister of Finance: What recent reports My question is to the Minister of Finance: What recent reports has My question is to the Minister of Finance: What recent reports has he Finance: What recent reports has he seen Finance: What recent reports has he seen on Finance: What recent reports has he seen on the Finance: What recent reports has he seen on the New Finance: What recent reports has he seen on the New Zealand Finance: What recent reports has he seen on the New Zealand economy? 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Seasonally adjusted filled jobs rose Seasonally adjusted filled jobs rose 0.4% Seasonally adjusted filled jobs rose 0.4% in Seasonally adjusted filled jobs rose 0.4% in May Seasonally adjusted filled jobs rose 0.4% in May 2021 Seasonally adjusted filled jobs rose 0.4% in May 2021 compared Seasonally adjusted filled jobs rose 0.4% in May 2021 compared with Seasonally adjusted filled jobs rose 0.4% in May 2021 compared with a 0.4% in May 2021 compared with a month 0.4% in May 2021 compared with a month earlier. 0.4% in May 2021 compared with a month earlier. The 0.4% in May 2021 compared with a month earlier. The number 0.4% in May 2021 compared with a month earlier. The number of 0.4% in May 2021 compared with a month earlier. The number of jobs 0.4% in May 2021 compared with a month earlier. The number of jobs is month earlier. The number of jobs is now month earlier. The number of jobs is now 0.6% month earlier. The number of jobs is now 0.6% above month earlier. The number of jobs is now 0.6% above its month earlier. The number of jobs is now 0.6% above its pre-COVID month earlier. The number of jobs is now 0.6% above its pre-COVID peak. now 0.6% above its pre-COVID peak. On now 0.6% above its pre-COVID peak. On an now 0.6% above its pre-COVID peak. On an annual now 0.6% above its pre-COVID peak. On an annual basis, now 0.6% above its pre-COVID peak. On an annual basis, the now 0.6% above its pre-COVID peak. On an annual basis, the biggest On an annual basis, the biggest gains On an annual basis, the biggest gains have On an annual basis, the biggest gains have been On an annual basis, the biggest gains have been in On an annual basis, the biggest gains have been in the On an annual basis, the biggest gains have been in the health On an annual basis, the biggest gains have been in the health and gains have been in the health and social gains have been in the health and social assistance gains have been in the health and social assistance and gains have been in the health and social assistance and construction social assistance and construction sectors. social assistance and construction sectors. Sectors social assistance and construction sectors. Sectors that social assistance and construction sectors. Sectors that have social assistance and construction sectors. Sectors that have been sectors. Sectors that have been affected sectors. Sectors that have been affected by sectors. Sectors that have been affected by the sectors. Sectors that have been affected by the closure sectors. Sectors that have been affected by the closure of sectors. Sectors that have been affected by the closure of the affected by the closure of the border affected by the closure of the border and affected by the closure of the border and response affected by the closure of the border and response to affected by the closure of the border and response to COVID, affected by the closure of the border and response to COVID, such border and response to COVID, such as border and response to COVID, such as hospitality, border and response to COVID, such as hospitality, are border and response to COVID, such as hospitality, are still border and response to COVID, such as hospitality, are still down border and response to COVID, such as hospitality, are still down on as hospitality, are still down on pre-COVID as hospitality, are still down on pre-COVID levels. as hospitality, are still down on pre-COVID levels. Westpac as hospitality, are still down on pre-COVID levels. Westpac bank pre-COVID levels. Westpac bank commented pre-COVID levels. Westpac bank commented that pre-COVID levels. Westpac bank commented that the pre-COVID levels. Westpac bank commented that the quote, pre-COVID levels. Westpac bank commented that the quote, "Early commented that the quote, "Early demand commented that the quote, "Early demand for commented that the quote, "Early demand for labour commented that the quote, "Early demand for labour is commented that the quote, "Early demand for labour is strong, demand for labour is strong, demonstrated demand for labour is strong, demonstrated by demand for labour is strong, demonstrated by the demand for labour is strong, demonstrated by the strong demand for labour is strong, demonstrated by the strong rise demand for labour is strong, demonstrated by the strong rise in demonstrated by the strong rise in job demonstrated by the strong rise in job advertisements. demonstrated by the strong rise in job advertisements. Those demonstrated by the strong rise in job advertisements. Those positions job advertisements. Those positions are job advertisements. Those positions are being job advertisements. Those positions are being filled." job advertisements. Those positions are being filled." Mr job advertisements. Those positions are being filled." Mr Speaker, job advertisements. Those positions are being filled." Mr Speaker, the are being filled." Mr Speaker, the Government are being filled." Mr Speaker, the Government is are being filled." Mr Speaker, the Government is playing are being filled." Mr Speaker, the Government is playing its are being filled." Mr Speaker, the Government is playing its part are being filled." Mr Speaker, the Government is playing its part in Government is playing its part in supporting Government is playing its part in supporting businesses Government is playing its part in supporting businesses and Government is playing its part in supporting businesses and workers, supporting businesses and workers, including supporting businesses and workers, including through supporting businesses and workers, including through Budget supporting businesses and workers, including through Budget 2021, including through Budget 2021, boosting including through Budget 2021, boosting skills including through Budget 2021, boosting skills and including through Budget 2021, boosting skills and training boosting skills and training initiatives boosting skills and training initiatives to boosting skills and training initiatives to allow boosting skills and training initiatives to allow people boosting skills and training initiatives to allow people to initiatives to allow people to transition initiatives to allow people to transition more initiatives to allow people to transition more easily initiatives to allow people to transition more easily in initiatives to allow people to transition more easily in different transition more easily in different types transition more easily in different types of transition more easily in different types of work. transition more easily in different types of work. What transition more easily in different types of work. What other transition more easily in different types of work. What other reports types of work. What other reports has types of work. What other reports has he types of work. What other reports has he seen types of work. What other reports has he seen on types of work. What other reports has he seen on the types of work. What other reports has he seen on the economy? types of work. What other reports has he seen on the economy? The has he seen on the economy? The primary has he seen on the economy? The primary sector has he seen on the economy? The primary sector is has he seen on the economy? The primary sector is supporting has he seen on the economy? The primary sector is supporting the primary sector is supporting the recovery primary sector is supporting the recovery strongly primary sector is supporting the recovery strongly and primary sector is supporting the recovery strongly and the primary sector is supporting the recovery strongly and the latest recovery strongly and the latest Rabobank recovery strongly and the latest Rabobank saw recovery strongly and the latest Rabobank saw the recovery strongly and the latest Rabobank saw the number recovery strongly and the latest Rabobank saw the number of recovery strongly and the latest Rabobank saw the number of optimists Rabobank saw the number of optimists outnumbered Rabobank saw the number of optimists outnumbered pessimists Rabobank saw the number of optimists outnumbered pessimists with Rabobank saw the number of optimists outnumbered pessimists with a Rabobank saw the number of optimists outnumbered pessimists with a net outnumbered pessimists with a net 10% outnumbered pessimists with a net 10% of outnumbered pessimists with a net 10% of farmers outnumbered pessimists with a net 10% of farmers expecting 10% of farmers expecting improvements. 10% of farmers expecting improvements. Farmers 10% of farmers expecting improvements. Farmers expectations improvements. Farmers expectations about improvements. Farmers expectations about their improvements. Farmers expectations about their own improvements. Farmers expectations about their own farm improvements. Farmers expectations about their own farm performance about their own farm performance also about their own farm performance also rose, about their own farm performance also rose, increasing about their own farm performance also rose, increasing to about their own farm performance also rose, increasing to a about their own farm performance also rose, increasing to a net about their own farm performance also rose, increasing to a net plus also rose, increasing to a net plus 16% also rose, increasing to a net plus 16% from also rose, increasing to a net plus 16% from 7% also rose, increasing to a net plus 16% from 7% in also rose, increasing to a net plus 16% from 7% in the also rose, increasing to a net plus 16% from 7% in the previous also rose, increasing to a net plus 16% from 7% in the previous quarter. 16% from 7% in the previous quarter. The 16% from 7% in the previous quarter. The optimists 16% from 7% in the previous quarter. The optimists are 16% from 7% in the previous quarter. The optimists are on 16% from 7% in the previous quarter. The optimists are on the 16% from 7% in the previous quarter. The optimists are on the farms, The optimists are on the farms, clearly The optimists are on the farms, clearly not The optimists are on the farms, clearly not on The optimists are on the farms, clearly not on that The optimists are on the farms, clearly not on that side The optimists are on the farms, clearly not on that side of The optimists are on the farms, clearly not on that side of the clearly not on that side of the house. clearly not on that side of the house. Rabobank clearly not on that side of the house. Rabobank commented clearly not on that side of the house. Rabobank commented prices clearly not on that side of the house. Rabobank commented prices are house. Rabobank commented prices are expected house. Rabobank commented prices are expected to house. Rabobank commented prices are expected to remain house. Rabobank commented prices are expected to remain strong, house. Rabobank commented prices are expected to remain strong, moving expected to remain strong, moving into expected to remain strong, moving into the expected to remain strong, moving into the second expected to remain strong, moving into the second half expected to remain strong, moving into the second half of expected to remain strong, moving into the second half of the expected to remain strong, moving into the second half of the year. into the second half of the year. Farmers into the second half of the year. Farmers do into the second half of the year. Farmers do continue into the second half of the year. Farmers do continue to into the second half of the year. Farmers do continue to operate into the second half of the year. Farmers do continue to operate in into the second half of the year. Farmers do continue to operate in a Farmers do continue to operate in a volatile Farmers do continue to operate in a volatile market Farmers do continue to operate in a volatile market and Farmers do continue to operate in a volatile market and growing volatile market and growing outbreaks volatile market and growing outbreaks of volatile market and growing outbreaks of COVID volatile market and growing outbreaks of COVID around volatile market and growing outbreaks of COVID around the volatile market and growing outbreaks of COVID around the world outbreaks of COVID around the world mean outbreaks of COVID around the world mean the outbreaks of COVID around the world mean the environment outbreaks of COVID around the world mean the environment does outbreaks of COVID around the world mean the environment does remain mean the environment does remain uncertain. mean the environment does remain uncertain. Supplementary. mean the environment does remain uncertain. Supplementary. What mean the environment does remain uncertain. Supplementary. What is uncertain. Supplementary. What is the uncertain. Supplementary. What is the Government uncertain. Supplementary. What is the Government doing uncertain. Supplementary. What is the Government doing in uncertain. Supplementary. What is the Government doing in response uncertain. Supplementary. What is the Government doing in response to the Government doing in response to the the Government doing in response to the economic the Government doing in response to the economic impact the Government doing in response to the economic impact of the Government doing in response to the economic impact of the the Government doing in response to the economic impact of the Alert the economic impact of the Alert Level the economic impact of the Alert Level rise? the economic impact of the Alert Level rise? The the economic impact of the Alert Level rise? The short the economic impact of the Alert Level rise? The short term the economic impact of the Alert Level rise? The short term payments Level rise? The short term payments remain Level rise? The short term payments remain in Level rise? The short term payments remain in place Level rise? The short term payments remain in place for Level rise? The short term payments remain in place for businesses Level rise? The short term payments remain in place for businesses and remain in place for businesses and workers remain in place for businesses and workers at remain in place for businesses and workers at whatever remain in place for businesses and workers at whatever level remain in place for businesses and workers at whatever level New workers at whatever level New Zealand workers at whatever level New Zealand is workers at whatever level New Zealand is at. workers at whatever level New Zealand is at. The workers at whatever level New Zealand is at. The extension workers at whatever level New Zealand is at. The extension of workers at whatever level New Zealand is at. The extension of the Zealand is at. The extension of the Alert Zealand is at. The extension of the Alert Level Zealand is at. The extension of the Alert Level in Zealand is at. The extension of the Alert Level in the Zealand is at. The extension of the Alert Level in the Wellington Zealand is at. The extension of the Alert Level in the Wellington region Alert Level in the Wellington region to Alert Level in the Wellington region to level Alert Level in the Wellington region to level 2 Alert Level in the Wellington region to level 2 has Alert Level in the Wellington region to level 2 has meant Alert Level in the Wellington region to level 2 has meant that Alert Level in the Wellington region to level 2 has meant that eligible to level 2 has meant that eligible businesses to level 2 has meant that eligible businesses nationwide to level 2 has meant that eligible businesses nationwide can to level 2 has meant that eligible businesses nationwide can now to level 2 has meant that eligible businesses nationwide can now take businesses nationwide can now take up businesses nationwide can now take up to businesses nationwide can now take up to resurgence businesses nationwide can now take up to resurgence support businesses nationwide can now take up to resurgence support payment. businesses nationwide can now take up to resurgence support payment. In up to resurgence support payment. In order up to resurgence support payment. In order to up to resurgence support payment. In order to qualify up to resurgence support payment. In order to qualify for up to resurgence support payment. In order to qualify for the up to resurgence support payment. In order to qualify for the payment, order to qualify for the payment, businesses order to qualify for the payment, businesses must order to qualify for the payment, businesses must show order to qualify for the payment, businesses must show a order to qualify for the payment, businesses must show a 30% order to qualify for the payment, businesses must show a 30% drop order to qualify for the payment, businesses must show a 30% drop in businesses must show a 30% drop in revenue businesses must show a 30% drop in revenue over businesses must show a 30% drop in revenue over a businesses must show a 30% drop in revenue over a 7-day businesses must show a 30% drop in revenue over a 7-day period. businesses must show a 30% drop in revenue over a 7-day period. The revenue over a 7-day period. The payment revenue over a 7-day period. The payment includes revenue over a 7-day period. The payment includes a revenue over a 7-day period. The payment includes a core revenue over a 7-day period. The payment includes a core per revenue over a 7-day period. The payment includes a core per business payment includes a core per business rate payment includes a core per business rate of payment includes a core per business rate of $1500, payment includes a core per business rate of $1500, plus payment includes a core per business rate of $1500, plus $400 payment includes a core per business rate of $1500, plus $400 per rate of $1500, plus $400 per employee rate of $1500, plus $400 per employee up rate of $1500, plus $400 per employee up to rate of $1500, plus $400 per employee up to a rate of $1500, plus $400 per employee up to a total rate of $1500, plus $400 per employee up to a total of rate of $1500, plus $400 per employee up to a total of 50 rate of $1500, plus $400 per employee up to a total of 50 full employee up to a total of 50 full time employee up to a total of 50 full time equivalents. employee up to a total of 50 full time equivalents. That's employee up to a total of 50 full time equivalents. That's a employee up to a total of 50 full time equivalents. That's a maximum time equivalents. That's a maximum payment time equivalents. That's a maximum payment of time equivalents. That's a maximum payment of $21,500. time equivalents. That's a maximum payment of $21,500. Sole time equivalents. That's a maximum payment of $21,500. Sole traders time equivalents. That's a maximum payment of $21,500. Sole traders can payment of $21,500. Sole traders can receive payment of $21,500. Sole traders can receive a payment of $21,500. Sole traders can receive a payment payment of $21,500. Sole traders can receive a payment up payment of $21,500. Sole traders can receive a payment up to payment of $21,500. Sole traders can receive a payment up to $1,900. receive a payment up to $1,900. Businesses receive a payment up to $1,900. Businesses will receive a payment up to $1,900. Businesses will be receive a payment up to $1,900. Businesses will be able receive a payment up to $1,900. Businesses will be able to receive a payment up to $1,900. Businesses will be able to apply receive a payment up to $1,900. Businesses will be able to apply for Businesses will be able to apply for this Businesses will be able to apply for this resurgence Businesses will be able to apply for this resurgence support Businesses will be able to apply for this resurgence support payment Businesses will be able to apply for this resurgence support payment from this resurgence support payment from 8:00am this resurgence support payment from 8:00am this this resurgence support payment from 8:00am this Thursday, this resurgence support payment from 8:00am this Thursday, on this resurgence support payment from 8:00am this Thursday, on the this resurgence support payment from 8:00am this Thursday, on the Inland 8:00am this Thursday, on the Inland Revenue 8:00am this Thursday, on the Inland Revenue website. 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I include in that our response to Mr Speaker, yes. I include in that our response to COVID-19. Mr Speaker, yes. I include in that our response to COVID-19. That our response to COVID-19. That includes our response to COVID-19. That includes a our response to COVID-19. That includes a swift our response to COVID-19. That includes a swift move our response to COVID-19. That includes a swift move Alert our response to COVID-19. 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We successive days of negative wastewater tests. We have successive days of negative wastewater tests. We have a successive days of negative wastewater tests. We have a level successive days of negative wastewater tests. We have a level of wastewater tests. We have a level of reassurance. wastewater tests. We have a level of reassurance. We wastewater tests. We have a level of reassurance. We ask wastewater tests. We have a level of reassurance. We ask people wastewater tests. We have a level of reassurance. We ask people to wastewater tests. We have a level of reassurance. We ask people to stay reassurance. We ask people to stay home reassurance. We ask people to stay home and reassurance. We ask people to stay home and get reassurance. We ask people to stay home and get a reassurance. We ask people to stay home and get a test reassurance. We ask people to stay home and get a test if reassurance. We ask people to stay home and get a test if they reassurance. We ask people to stay home and get a test if they have home and get a test if they have cold home and get a test if they have cold or home and get a test if they have cold or flu-like home and get a test if they have cold or flu-like symptoms home and get a test if they have cold or flu-like symptoms and home and get a test if they have cold or flu-like symptoms and that cold or flu-like symptoms and that remains cold or flu-like symptoms and that remains critical cold or flu-like symptoms and that remains critical to cold or flu-like symptoms and that remains critical to our cold or flu-like symptoms and that remains critical to our ongoing remains critical to our ongoing vigilance. remains critical to our ongoing vigilance. We remains critical to our ongoing vigilance. We paused remains critical to our ongoing vigilance. We paused the remains critical to our ongoing vigilance. We paused the travel vigilance. We paused the travel bubble vigilance. 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Mr Speaker, it's set out in the provisions of the proposals that the provisions of the proposals that we've the provisions of the proposals that we've been the provisions of the proposals that we've been debating the provisions of the proposals that we've been debating over the provisions of the proposals that we've been debating over the the provisions of the proposals that we've been debating over the last we've been debating over the last few we've been debating over the last few days. we've been debating over the last few days. It we've been debating over the last few days. It includes we've been debating over the last few days. It includes intentional few days. It includes intentional inciting, few days. It includes intentional inciting, stirring few days. It includes intentional inciting, stirring up few days. 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We made changes in 2019 to close the Tui oil field fell to the Crown. We made changes in 2019 to close the We made changes in 2019 to close the loopholes We made changes in 2019 to close the loopholes that We made changes in 2019 to close the loopholes that allowed We made changes in 2019 to close the loopholes that allowed Tamarind We made changes in 2019 to close the loopholes that allowed Tamarind to loopholes that allowed Tamarind to buy loopholes that allowed Tamarind to buy a loopholes that allowed Tamarind to buy a New loopholes that allowed Tamarind to buy a New Zealand loopholes that allowed Tamarind to buy a New Zealand asset. loopholes that allowed Tamarind to buy a New Zealand asset. It loopholes that allowed Tamarind to buy a New Zealand asset. It will buy a New Zealand asset. It will strengthen buy a New Zealand asset. It will strengthen the buy a New Zealand asset. It will strengthen the petroleum buy a New Zealand asset. It will strengthen the petroleum sector's strengthen the petroleum sector's financial strengthen the petroleum sector's financial and strengthen the petroleum sector's financial and legal strengthen the petroleum sector's financial and legal responsibility financial and legal responsibility for financial and legal responsibility for decommissioning. financial and legal responsibility for decommissioning. What financial and legal responsibility for decommissioning. What penalties for decommissioning. What penalties will for decommissioning. What penalties will there for decommissioning. What penalties will there be for decommissioning. What penalties will there be for for decommissioning. What penalties will there be for failing for decommissioning. What penalties will there be for failing to for decommissioning. 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Failure to fulfil the obligation will result in decommissioning. Failure to fulfil the obligation will result in a the obligation will result in a civil the obligation will result in a civil pecuniary the obligation will result in a civil pecuniary or the obligation will result in a civil pecuniary or criminal, the obligation will result in a civil pecuniary or criminal, that civil pecuniary or criminal, that would civil pecuniary or criminal, that would be civil pecuniary or criminal, that would be a civil pecuniary or criminal, that would be a fine civil pecuniary or criminal, that would be a fine up civil pecuniary or criminal, that would be a fine up to civil pecuniary or criminal, that would be a fine up to $5,000 civil pecuniary or criminal, that would be a fine up to $5,000 for civil pecuniary or criminal, that would be a fine up to $5,000 for an would be a fine up to $5,000 for an individual, would be a fine up to $5,000 for an individual, and would be a fine up to $5,000 for an individual, and $10 would be a fine up to $5,000 for an individual, and $10 million would be a fine up to $5,000 for an individual, and $10 million for would be a fine up to $5,000 for an individual, and $10 million for a individual, and $10 million for a body individual, and $10 million for a body corporate. individual, and $10 million for a body corporate. And individual, and $10 million for a body corporate. And how individual, and $10 million for a body corporate. And how will individual, and $10 million for a body corporate. And how will the body corporate. And how will the bill body corporate. And how will the bill increase body corporate. And how will the bill increase the body corporate. And how will the bill increase the Government's bill increase the Government's ability bill increase the Government's ability to bill increase the Government's ability to monitor bill increase the Government's ability to monitor decommissioning ability to monitor decommissioning liabilities? ability to monitor decommissioning liabilities? Mr ability to monitor decommissioning liabilities? Mr Speaker, ability to monitor decommissioning liabilities? Mr Speaker, the ability to monitor decommissioning liabilities? Mr Speaker, the bill liabilities? Mr Speaker, the bill provides liabilities? Mr Speaker, the bill provides Government liabilities? Mr Speaker, the bill provides Government more liabilities? Mr Speaker, the bill provides Government more powers liabilities? Mr Speaker, the bill provides Government more powers to provides Government more powers to carry provides Government more powers to carry out provides Government more powers to carry out more provides Government more powers to carry out more effective provides Government more powers to carry out more effective monitoring. carry out more effective monitoring. It carry out more effective monitoring. It is carry out more effective monitoring. It is designed carry out more effective monitoring. It is designed to carry out more effective monitoring. It is designed to enable carry out more effective monitoring. It is designed to enable us carry out more effective monitoring. It is designed to enable us to carry out more effective monitoring. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Justice: My question is to the Minister of Justice: Does My question is to the Minister of Justice: Does he My question is to the Minister of Justice: Does he stand My question is to the Minister of Justice: Does he stand by My question is to the Minister of Justice: Does he stand by all My question is to the Minister of Justice: Does he stand by all of My question is to the Minister of Justice: Does he stand by all of his Justice: Does he stand by all of his statements Justice: Does he stand by all of his statements and Justice: Does he stand by all of his statements and policies Justice: Does he stand by all of his statements and policies on Justice: Does he stand by all of his statements and policies on his statements and policies on his proposed statements and policies on his proposed hate statements and policies on his proposed hate speech statements and policies on his proposed hate speech law statements and policies on his proposed hate speech law changes? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, yes. Mr Speaker, yes. Because Mr Speaker, yes. Because they Mr Speaker, yes. Because they are Mr Speaker, yes. Because they are informed Mr Speaker, yes. Because they are informed by Mr Speaker, yes. Because they are informed by the Mr Speaker, yes. Because they are informed by the royal Mr Speaker, yes. Because they are informed by the royal commission Mr Speaker, yes. Because they are informed by the royal commission of informed by the royal commission of inquiry, informed by the royal commission of inquiry, I informed by the royal commission of inquiry, I stand informed by the royal commission of inquiry, I stand by informed by the royal commission of inquiry, I stand by the informed by the royal commission of inquiry, I stand by the approach informed by the royal commission of inquiry, I stand by the approach the inquiry, I stand by the approach the Government inquiry, I stand by the approach the Government is inquiry, I stand by the approach the Government is taking inquiry, I stand by the approach the Government is taking to inquiry, I stand by the approach the Government is taking to respond inquiry, I stand by the approach the Government is taking to respond to Government is taking to respond to the Government is taking to respond to the recommendations Government is taking to respond to the recommendations of Government is taking to respond to the recommendations of the Government is taking to respond to the recommendations of the royal the recommendations of the royal commission. the recommendations of the royal commission. Because the recommendations of the royal commission. Because we the recommendations of the royal commission. Because we are the recommendations of the royal commission. Because we are taking commission. Because we are taking the commission. Because we are taking the proposals commission. Because we are taking the proposals and commission. Because we are taking the proposals and giving commission. Because we are taking the proposals and giving New the proposals and giving New Zealanders the proposals and giving New Zealanders the the proposals and giving New Zealanders the opportunity the proposals and giving New Zealanders the opportunity to the proposals and giving New Zealanders the opportunity to have the proposals and giving New Zealanders the opportunity to have a Zealanders the opportunity to have a say Zealanders the opportunity to have a say on Zealanders the opportunity to have a say on them. Zealanders the opportunity to have a say on them. The Zealanders the opportunity to have a say on them. The member Zealanders the opportunity to have a say on them. The member is Zealanders the opportunity to have a say on them. The member is well say on them. The member is well aware say on them. The member is well aware there's say on them. The member is well aware there's vigorously say on them. The member is well aware there's vigorously held say on them. The member is well aware there's vigorously held views aware there's vigorously held views on aware there's vigorously held views on the aware there's vigorously held views on the issues aware there's vigorously held views on the issues and aware there's vigorously held views on the issues and they aware there's vigorously held views on the issues and they should aware there's vigorously held views on the issues and they should be on the issues and they should be fully on the issues and they should be fully expressed on the issues and they should be fully expressed to on the issues and they should be fully expressed to inform on the issues and they should be fully expressed to inform the fully expressed to inform the Government's fully expressed to inform the Government's further fully expressed to inform the Government's further deliberations. Government's further deliberations. The Government's further deliberations. The proposed Government's further deliberations. The proposed changes Government's further deliberations. The proposed changes do Government's further deliberations. The proposed changes do not Government's further deliberations. The proposed changes do not lower The proposed changes do not lower the The proposed changes do not lower the threshold. The proposed changes do not lower the threshold. The The proposed changes do not lower the threshold. The threshold The proposed changes do not lower the threshold. The threshold remains the threshold. The threshold remains as the threshold. The threshold remains as high the threshold. The threshold remains as high as the threshold. The threshold remains as high as it the threshold. The threshold remains as high as it has the threshold. The threshold remains as high as it has been the threshold. The threshold remains as high as it has been since the threshold. The threshold remains as high as it has been since 1971 as high as it has been since 1971 when as high as it has been since 1971 when the as high as it has been since 1971 when the National as high as it has been since 1971 when the National government as high as it has been since 1971 when the National government of as high as it has been since 1971 when the National government of the when the National government of the time when the National government of the time put when the National government of the time put the when the National government of the time put the regime when the National government of the time put the regime under when the National government of the time put the regime under the when the National government of the time put the regime under the race time put the regime under the race relations time put the regime under the race relations act, time put the regime under the race relations act, and time put the regime under the race relations act, and when time put the regime under the race relations act, and when a time put the regime under the race relations act, and when a subsequent relations act, and when a subsequent National relations act, and when a subsequent National government relations act, and when a subsequent National government consolidated relations act, and when a subsequent National government consolidated the National government consolidated the provisions National government consolidated the provisions of National government consolidated the provisions of the National government consolidated the provisions of the human National government consolidated the provisions of the human rights National government consolidated the provisions of the human rights Act. provisions of the human rights Act. What provisions of the human rights Act. What we're provisions of the human rights Act. What we're asking provisions of the human rights Act. What we're asking the provisions of the human rights Act. What we're asking the public provisions of the human rights Act. 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Or ethnicity should be protected under these provisions. Or strengthen ethnicity should be protected under these provisions. Or strengthen the these provisions. Or strengthen the penalties these provisions. Or strengthen the penalties for these provisions. Or strengthen the penalties for inciting these provisions. Or strengthen the penalties for inciting hatred. penalties for inciting hatred. Before penalties for inciting hatred. Before we penalties for inciting hatred. Before we do penalties for inciting hatred. Before we do that, penalties for inciting hatred. Before we do that, I penalties for inciting hatred. Before we do that, I didn't penalties for inciting hatred. Before we do that, I didn't want penalties for inciting hatred. 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There was at a clearly out of order interjection from replying. There was at a clearly out of order interjection from the of order interjection from the Deputy of order interjection from the Deputy PM of order interjection from the Deputy PM who of order interjection from the Deputy PM who will of order interjection from the Deputy PM who will withdraw of order interjection from the Deputy PM who will withdraw and Deputy PM who will withdraw and apologise. Deputy PM who will withdraw and apologise. I Deputy PM who will withdraw and apologise. I withdraw Deputy PM who will withdraw and apologise. I withdraw and Deputy PM who will withdraw and apologise. I withdraw and apologise. apologise. I withdraw and apologise. Hasn't apologise. I withdraw and apologise. Hasn't he apologise. I withdraw and apologise. Hasn't he in apologise. I withdraw and apologise. Hasn't he in fact apologise. I withdraw and apologise. Hasn't he in fact set apologise. I withdraw and apologise. Hasn't he in fact set the apologise. I withdraw and apologise. Hasn't he in fact set the legal Hasn't he in fact set the legal tests Hasn't he in fact set the legal tests much Hasn't he in fact set the legal tests much lower Hasn't he in fact set the legal tests much lower than Hasn't he in fact set the legal tests much lower than incitement Hasn't he in fact set the legal tests much lower than incitement to tests much lower than incitement to violence, tests much lower than incitement to violence, so tests much lower than incitement to violence, so that tests much lower than incitement to violence, so that potentially tests much lower than incitement to violence, so that potentially many violence, so that potentially many more violence, so that potentially many more New violence, so that potentially many more New Zealanders violence, so that potentially many more New Zealanders will violence, so that potentially many more New Zealanders will be violence, so that potentially many more New Zealanders will be captured more New Zealanders will be captured than more New Zealanders will be captured than would more New Zealanders will be captured than would otherwise more New Zealanders will be captured than would otherwise have more New Zealanders will be captured than would otherwise have been more New Zealanders will be captured than would otherwise have been the than would otherwise have been the case? than would otherwise have been the case? Mr than would otherwise have been the case? Mr Speaker, than would otherwise have been the case? Mr Speaker, no. than would otherwise have been the case? Mr Speaker, no. Does than would otherwise have been the case? Mr Speaker, no. Does he than would otherwise have been the case? Mr Speaker, no. Does he accept case? Mr Speaker, no. Does he accept that case? Mr Speaker, no. Does he accept that by case? Mr Speaker, no. Does he accept that by setting case? Mr Speaker, no. Does he accept that by setting those case? Mr Speaker, no. Does he accept that by setting those legal case? Mr Speaker, no. Does he accept that by setting those legal bars case? Mr Speaker, no. Does he accept that by setting those legal bars at that by setting those legal bars at what that by setting those legal bars at what is that by setting those legal bars at what is in that by setting those legal bars at what is in his that by setting those legal bars at what is in his document that by setting those legal bars at what is in his document merely what is in his document merely insulting what is in his document merely insulting and what is in his document merely insulting and what what is in his document merely insulting and what is what is in his document merely insulting and what is merely insulting and what is merely incitement insulting and what is merely incitement to insulting and what is merely incitement to discriminate, insulting and what is merely incitement to discriminate, off incitement to discriminate, off colour incitement to discriminate, off colour jokes incitement to discriminate, off colour jokes about incitement to discriminate, off colour jokes about say, incitement to discriminate, off colour jokes about say, ethnicity, colour jokes about say, ethnicity, or colour jokes about say, ethnicity, or sexuality, colour jokes about say, ethnicity, or sexuality, may colour jokes about say, ethnicity, or sexuality, may potentially colour jokes about say, ethnicity, or sexuality, may potentially land or sexuality, may potentially land an or sexuality, may potentially land an ill or sexuality, may potentially land an ill considered or sexuality, may potentially land an ill considered Kiwi or sexuality, may potentially land an ill considered Kiwi in or sexuality, may potentially land an ill considered Kiwi in Court or sexuality, may potentially land an ill considered Kiwi in Court and an ill considered Kiwi in Court and does an ill considered Kiwi in Court and does he an ill considered Kiwi in Court and does he really an ill considered Kiwi in Court and does he really seek an ill considered Kiwi in Court and does he really seek to an ill considered Kiwi in Court and does he really seek to penalise does he really seek to penalise that? does he really seek to penalise that? 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How can he say his proposals cases that the member has outlined. 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But I do think there's a valid conversation think there's a valid conversation to think there's a valid conversation to be think there's a valid conversation to be had think there's a valid conversation to be had about think there's a valid conversation to be had about the think there's a valid conversation to be had about the place think there's a valid conversation to be had about the place of think there's a valid conversation to be had about the place of public to be had about the place of public debt to be had about the place of public debt and to be had about the place of public debt and how to be had about the place of public debt and how it to be had about the place of public debt and how it supports to be had about the place of public debt and how it supports New debt and how it supports New Zealand's debt and how it supports New Zealand's resilience debt and how it supports New Zealand's resilience and debt and how it supports New Zealand's resilience and wellbeing. Zealand's resilience and wellbeing. Sorry, Zealand's resilience and wellbeing. Sorry, I Zealand's resilience and wellbeing. Sorry, I thought Zealand's resilience and wellbeing. Sorry, I thought the Zealand's resilience and wellbeing. Sorry, I thought the member Zealand's resilience and wellbeing. Sorry, I thought the member wanted Zealand's resilience and wellbeing. Sorry, I thought the member wanted a Sorry, I thought the member wanted a supplementary. Sorry, I thought the member wanted a supplementary. We Sorry, I thought the member wanted a supplementary. We have Sorry, I thought the member wanted a supplementary. We have another supplementary. We have another question supplementary. We have another question about supplementary. We have another question about that. What What changes What changes to What changes to social What changes to social development What changes to social development and What changes to social development and employment What changes to social development and employment policies What changes to social development and employment policies come What changes to social development and employment policies come into and employment policies come into effect and employment policies come into effect on and employment policies come into effect on 1 and employment policies come into effect on 1 July and employment policies come into effect on 1 July 2021? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, from Mr Speaker, from 1 Mr Speaker, from 1 July Mr Speaker, from 1 July main Mr Speaker, from 1 July main benefits Mr Speaker, from 1 July main benefits will Mr Speaker, from 1 July main benefits will increase Mr Speaker, from 1 July main benefits will increase by Mr Speaker, from 1 July main benefits will increase by $20. Mr Speaker, from 1 July main benefits will increase by $20. This benefits will increase by $20. This is benefits will increase by $20. This is the benefits will increase by $20. This is the first benefits will increase by $20. This is the first stage benefits will increase by $20. This is the first stage of benefits will increase by $20. This is the first stage of Budget benefits will increase by $20. This is the first stage of Budget 2021 is the first stage of Budget 2021 increases is the first stage of Budget 2021 increases which is the first stage of Budget 2021 increases which will is the first stage of Budget 2021 increases which will see is the first stage of Budget 2021 increases which will see weekly is the first stage of Budget 2021 increases which will see weekly main increases which will see weekly main benefit increases which will see weekly main benefit rates increases which will see weekly main benefit rates increase increases which will see weekly main benefit rates increase by increases which will see weekly main benefit rates increase by between benefit rates increase by between $32 benefit rates increase by between $32 and benefit rates increase by between $32 and $55 benefit rates increase by between $32 and $55 by benefit rates increase by between $32 and $55 by April benefit rates increase by between $32 and $55 by April next benefit rates increase by between $32 and $55 by April next year. $32 and $55 by April next year. These $32 and $55 by April next year. These benefit $32 and $55 by April next year. These benefit increases $32 and $55 by April next year. These benefit increases will $32 and $55 by April next year. These benefit increases will mean These benefit increases will mean 355,000 These benefit increases will mean 355,000 families These benefit increases will mean 355,000 families and These benefit increases will mean 355,000 families and individuals 355,000 families and individuals will 355,000 families and individuals will be 355,000 families and individuals will be better 355,000 families and individuals will be better off. 355,000 families and individuals will be better off. Supplementary. will be better off. Supplementary. What will be better off. Supplementary. What other will be better off. Supplementary. What other policies will be better off. Supplementary. What other policies come will be better off. Supplementary. What other policies come into will be better off. Supplementary. What other policies come into effect What other policies come into effect on What other policies come into effect on 1 What other policies come into effect on 1 July? What other policies come into effect on 1 July? It What other policies come into effect on 1 July? It also What other policies come into effect on 1 July? It also marks What other policies come into effect on 1 July? It also marks the on 1 July? It also marks the reinstatement on 1 July? It also marks the reinstatement of on 1 July? It also marks the reinstatement of the on 1 July? It also marks the reinstatement of the training reinstatement of the training allowance. reinstatement of the training allowance. It reinstatement of the training allowance. It will reinstatement of the training allowance. It will help reinstatement of the training allowance. It will help parents, reinstatement of the training allowance. It will help parents, as allowance. It will help parents, as well allowance. It will help parents, as well as allowance. It will help parents, as well as sole allowance. It will help parents, as well as sole carers, allowance. It will help parents, as well as sole carers, to allowance. It will help parents, as well as sole carers, to gain allowance. It will help parents, as well as sole carers, to gain higher well as sole carers, to gain higher level well as sole carers, to gain higher level qualifications. well as sole carers, to gain higher level qualifications. The well as sole carers, to gain higher level qualifications. The training level qualifications. The training incentive level qualifications. The training incentive allowance level qualifications. The training incentive allowance will level qualifications. The training incentive allowance will be level qualifications. The training incentive allowance will be expanded incentive allowance will be expanded to incentive allowance will be expanded to include incentive allowance will be expanded to include qualifications incentive allowance will be expanded to include qualifications at incentive allowance will be expanded to include qualifications at level incentive allowance will be expanded to include qualifications at level 4 to include qualifications at level 4 to to include qualifications at level 4 to 7 to include qualifications at level 4 to 7 on to include qualifications at level 4 to 7 on the to include qualifications at level 4 to 7 on the NZ to include qualifications at level 4 to 7 on the NZ QA to include qualifications at level 4 to 7 on the NZ QA framework. to include qualifications at level 4 to 7 on the NZ QA framework. This to 7 on the NZ QA framework. This will to 7 on the NZ QA framework. This will support to 7 on the NZ QA framework. This will support 16,000 to 7 on the NZ QA framework. This will support 16,000 people to 7 on the NZ QA framework. This will support 16,000 people to will support 16,000 people to upskill will support 16,000 people to upskill over will support 16,000 people to upskill over the will support 16,000 people to upskill over the next will support 16,000 people to upskill over the next four will support 16,000 people to upskill over the next four years, upskill over the next four years, not upskill over the next four years, not only upskill over the next four years, not only is upskill over the next four years, not only is this upskill over the next four years, not only is this good upskill over the next four years, not only is this good for not only is this good for individuals, not only is this good for individuals, it not only is this good for individuals, it is not only is this good for individuals, it is good not only is this good for individuals, it is good for not only is this good for individuals, it is good for their individuals, it is good for their whanau, individuals, it is good for their whanau, communities individuals, it is good for their whanau, communities and individuals, it is good for their whanau, communities and the individuals, it is good for their whanau, communities and the economy whanau, communities and the economy as whanau, communities and the economy as well. whanau, communities and the economy as well. Supplementary. whanau, communities and the economy as well. Supplementary. What whanau, communities and the economy as well. Supplementary. What changes as well. Supplementary. What changes to as well. Supplementary. What changes to childcare as well. Supplementary. What changes to childcare assistance as well. Supplementary. What changes to childcare assistance come as well. Supplementary. What changes to childcare assistance come into to childcare assistance come into effect to childcare assistance come into effect from to childcare assistance come into effect from 1 to childcare assistance come into effect from 1 July? to childcare assistance come into effect from 1 July? Mr to childcare assistance come into effect from 1 July? Mr Speaker, to childcare assistance come into effect from 1 July? Mr Speaker, from effect from 1 July? Mr Speaker, from 1 effect from 1 July? Mr Speaker, from 1 July effect from 1 July? Mr Speaker, from 1 July supplementary effect from 1 July? Mr Speaker, from 1 July supplementary payments effect from 1 July? Mr Speaker, from 1 July supplementary payments such 1 July supplementary payments such as 1 July supplementary payments such as the 1 July supplementary payments such as the accommodation 1 July supplementary payments such as the accommodation supplement 1 July supplementary payments such as the accommodation supplement and as the accommodation supplement and temporary as the accommodation supplement and temporary additional as the accommodation supplement and temporary additional support as the accommodation supplement and temporary additional support won't temporary additional support won't be temporary additional support won't be considered temporary additional support won't be considered as temporary additional support won't be considered as income temporary additional support won't be considered as income when be considered as income when assessing be considered as income when assessing people's be considered as income when assessing people's eligibility be considered as income when assessing people's eligibility for assessing people's eligibility for childcare assessing people's eligibility for childcare assistance. assessing people's eligibility for childcare assistance. 2100 assessing people's eligibility for childcare assistance. 2100 people childcare assistance. 2100 people will childcare assistance. 2100 people will be childcare assistance. 2100 people will be eligible childcare assistance. 2100 people will be eligible for childcare assistance. 2100 people will be eligible for more childcare assistance. 2100 people will be eligible for more childcare will be eligible for more childcare assistance. will be eligible for more childcare assistance. It's will be eligible for more childcare assistance. It's important will be eligible for more childcare assistance. It's important to will be eligible for more childcare assistance. It's important to note assistance. It's important to note on assistance. It's important to note on 1 assistance. It's important to note on 1 April assistance. It's important to note on 1 April 2022 assistance. It's important to note on 1 April 2022 we'll assistance. It's important to note on 1 April 2022 we'll be assistance. It's important to note on 1 April 2022 we'll be indexing on 1 April 2022 we'll be indexing incomes on 1 April 2022 we'll be indexing incomes to on 1 April 2022 we'll be indexing incomes to annual on 1 April 2022 we'll be indexing incomes to annual wage on 1 April 2022 we'll be indexing incomes to annual wage growth. on 1 April 2022 we'll be indexing incomes to annual wage growth. Less incomes to annual wage growth. Less people incomes to annual wage growth. Less people have incomes to annual wage growth. Less people have been incomes to annual wage growth. Less people have been eligible incomes to annual wage growth. Less people have been eligible for people have been eligible for childcare people have been eligible for childcare assistance. people have been eligible for childcare assistance. They people have been eligible for childcare assistance. They play people have been eligible for childcare assistance. They play a childcare assistance. They play a vital childcare assistance. They play a vital role childcare assistance. They play a vital role in childcare assistance. They play a vital role in supporting childcare assistance. They play a vital role in supporting parents childcare assistance. They play a vital role in supporting parents to vital role in supporting parents to gain vital role in supporting parents to gain and vital role in supporting parents to gain and maintain vital role in supporting parents to gain and maintain employment, vital role in supporting parents to gain and maintain employment, Mr gain and maintain employment, Mr Speaker. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: My question is to the Prime Minister: Does My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all of Minister: Does she stand by all of her Minister: Does she stand by all of her Government's Minister: Does she stand by all of her Government's statements Minister: Does she stand by all of her Government's statements and her Government's statements and policies? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, yes, Mr Speaker, yes, particularly Mr Speaker, yes, particularly the Mr Speaker, yes, particularly the Government's Mr Speaker, yes, particularly the Government's decision Mr Speaker, yes, particularly the Government's decision to Mr Speaker, yes, particularly the Government's decision to phase Mr Speaker, yes, particularly the Government's decision to phase out Government's decision to phase out hard Government's decision to phase out hard to Government's decision to phase out hard to recycle Government's decision to phase out hard to recycle food Government's decision to phase out hard to recycle food and Government's decision to phase out hard to recycle food and drink hard to recycle food and drink packaging hard to recycle food and drink packaging made hard to recycle food and drink packaging made from hard to recycle food and drink packaging made from polystyrene, packaging made from polystyrene, single packaging made from polystyrene, single use packaging made from polystyrene, single use produce packaging made from polystyrene, single use produce bags, packaging made from polystyrene, single use produce bags, cutlery, single use produce bags, cutlery, bowls single use produce bags, cutlery, bowls and single use produce bags, cutlery, bowls and straws. single use produce bags, cutlery, bowls and straws. 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And have asked for urgent change of waste in the OECD. And have asked for urgent change in of waste in the OECD. And have asked for urgent change in how of waste in the OECD. And have asked for urgent change in how we of waste in the OECD. And have asked for urgent change in how we use for urgent change in how we use plastic for urgent change in how we use plastic and for urgent change in how we use plastic and particularly for urgent change in how we use plastic and particularly amongst for urgent change in how we use plastic and particularly amongst our plastic and particularly amongst our younger plastic and particularly amongst our younger generation, plastic and particularly amongst our younger generation, Mr plastic and particularly amongst our younger generation, Mr Speaker. plastic and particularly amongst our younger generation, Mr Speaker. It's younger generation, Mr Speaker. It's one younger generation, Mr Speaker. It's one of younger generation, Mr Speaker. It's one of the younger generation, Mr Speaker. It's one of the most younger generation, Mr Speaker. It's one of the most frequently younger generation, Mr Speaker. It's one of the most frequently subjects one of the most frequently subjects of one of the most frequently subjects of letter one of the most frequently subjects of letter writing one of the most frequently subjects of letter writing from one of the most frequently subjects of letter writing from children one of the most frequently subjects of letter writing from children I of letter writing from children I receive. of letter writing from children I receive. We of letter writing from children I receive. We made of letter writing from children I receive. We made good of letter writing from children I receive. We made good progress of letter writing from children I receive. We made good progress over receive. We made good progress over the receive. We made good progress over the past receive. 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We made good progress over the past three years and there's the past three years and there's strong the past three years and there's strong public the past three years and there's strong public and the past three years and there's strong public and business the past three years and there's strong public and business support strong public and business support for strong public and business support for the strong public and business support for the 2019 strong public and business support for the 2019 plastic strong public and business support for the 2019 plastic bag strong public and business support for the 2019 plastic bag ban strong public and business support for the 2019 plastic bag ban that's for the 2019 plastic bag ban that's meant for the 2019 plastic bag ban that's meant one for the 2019 plastic bag ban that's meant one billion for the 2019 plastic bag ban that's meant one billion fewer for the 2019 plastic bag ban that's meant one billion fewer have for the 2019 plastic bag ban that's meant one billion fewer have ended meant one billion fewer have ended up meant one billion fewer have ended up in meant one billion fewer have ended up in landfills meant one billion fewer have ended up in landfills and meant one billion fewer have ended up in landfills and the meant one billion fewer have ended up in landfills and the ocean. up in landfills and the ocean. Avoiding up in landfills and the ocean. Avoiding waste up in landfills and the ocean. Avoiding waste is up in landfills and the ocean. Avoiding waste is a up in landfills and the ocean. Avoiding waste is a key up in landfills and the ocean. Avoiding waste is a key part up in landfills and the ocean. Avoiding waste is a key part of up in landfills and the ocean. Avoiding waste is a key part of our Avoiding waste is a key part of our moves Avoiding waste is a key part of our moves to Avoiding waste is a key part of our moves to protect Avoiding waste is a key part of our moves to protect the Avoiding waste is a key part of our moves to protect the environment Avoiding waste is a key part of our moves to protect the environment but moves to protect the environment but also moves to protect the environment but also adds moves to protect the environment but also adds to moves to protect the environment but also adds to our moves to protect the environment but also adds to our economic moves to protect the environment but also adds to our economic recovery also adds to our economic recovery as also adds to our economic recovery as well. also adds to our economic recovery as well. Supplementary. also adds to our economic recovery as well. Supplementary. Does also adds to our economic recovery as well. Supplementary. Does she as well. Supplementary. Does she stand as well. Supplementary. Does she stand by as well. Supplementary. Does she stand by her as well. Supplementary. Does she stand by her statement as well. Supplementary. Does she stand by her statement made as well. Supplementary. Does she stand by her statement made on as well. Supplementary. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Transport: My question is to the Minister of Transport: What My question is to the Minister of Transport: What advice, My question is to the Minister of Transport: What advice, if My question is to the Minister of Transport: What advice, if any, My question is to the Minister of Transport: What advice, if any, has Transport: What advice, if any, has he Transport: What advice, if any, has he received Transport: What advice, if any, has he received on Transport: What advice, if any, has he received on the Transport: What advice, if any, has he received on the impact Transport: What advice, if any, has he received on the impact of Transport: What advice, if any, has he received on the impact of the he received on the impact of the Clean he received on the impact of the Clean Car he received on the impact of the Clean Car Programme he received on the impact of the Clean Car Programme on he received on the impact of the Clean Car Programme on the he received on the impact of the Clean Car Programme on the price he received on the impact of the Clean Car Programme on the price and Clean Car Programme on the price and supply Clean Car Programme on the price and supply of Clean Car Programme on the price and supply of vehicles? 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We to noticeable price increases. We expect to noticeable price increases. We expect it to noticeable price increases. We expect it to to noticeable price increases. We expect it to fall to noticeable price increases. We expect it to fall over to noticeable price increases. We expect it to fall over the to noticeable price increases. We expect it to fall over the period. expect it to fall over the period. The expect it to fall over the period. The risk expect it to fall over the period. The risk of expect it to fall over the period. The risk of supply expect it to fall over the period. The risk of supply constraints expect it to fall over the period. 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It's been modified from the standard it was modified from the standard it was consulted modified from the standard it was consulted upon. modified from the standard it was consulted upon. Has modified from the standard it was consulted upon. Has the modified from the standard it was consulted upon. Has the minister consulted upon. Has the minister seen consulted upon. Has the minister seen reports consulted upon. Has the minister seen reports that consulted upon. Has the minister seen reports that since consulted upon. Has the minister seen reports that since the seen reports that since the announcement seen reports that since the announcement of seen reports that since the announcement of the seen reports that since the announcement of the clean seen reports that since the announcement of the clean car announcement of the clean car subsidy, announcement of the clean car subsidy, the announcement of the clean car subsidy, the price announcement of the clean car subsidy, the price of announcement of the clean car subsidy, the price of a announcement of the clean car subsidy, the price of a used announcement of the clean car subsidy, the price of a used Nissan subsidy, the price of a used Nissan Leaf subsidy, the price of a used Nissan Leaf at subsidy, the price of a used Nissan Leaf at a subsidy, the price of a used Nissan Leaf at a Japanese subsidy, the price of a used Nissan Leaf at a Japanese auction subsidy, the price of a used Nissan Leaf at a Japanese auction house subsidy, the price of a used Nissan Leaf at a Japanese auction house has Leaf at a Japanese auction house has increased Leaf at a Japanese auction house has increased by Leaf at a Japanese auction house has increased by $3,000 Leaf at a Japanese auction house has increased by $3,000 in Leaf at a Japanese auction house has increased by $3,000 in only Leaf at a Japanese auction house has increased by $3,000 in only three increased by $3,000 in only three days, increased by $3,000 in only three days, and increased by $3,000 in only three days, and does increased by $3,000 in only three days, and does he increased by $3,000 in only three days, and does he agree increased by $3,000 in only three days, and does he agree that increased by $3,000 in only three days, and does he agree that based days, and does he agree that based on days, and does he agree that based on this, days, and does he agree that based on this, the days, and does he agree that based on this, the subsidy days, and does he agree that based on this, the subsidy is days, and does he agree that based on this, the subsidy is simply days, and does he agree that based on this, the subsidy is simply going on this, the subsidy is simply going offshore? on this, the subsidy is simply going offshore? Mr on this, the subsidy is simply going offshore? Mr Speaker, on this, the subsidy is simply going offshore? Mr Speaker, I on this, the subsidy is simply going offshore? Mr Speaker, I have on this, the subsidy is simply going offshore? Mr Speaker, I have seen on this, the subsidy is simply going offshore? Mr Speaker, I have seen a offshore? Mr Speaker, I have seen a report offshore? Mr Speaker, I have seen a report which offshore? Mr Speaker, I have seen a report which makes offshore? Mr Speaker, I have seen a report which makes reference offshore? Mr Speaker, I have seen a report which makes reference to report which makes reference to that. report which makes reference to that. But report which makes reference to that. But within report which makes reference to that. But within the report which makes reference to that. But within the same report which makes reference to that. But within the same report report which makes reference to that. But within the same report I that. 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But within the same report I have seen comment from people in the have seen comment from people in the sector have seen comment from people in the sector who have seen comment from people in the sector who have have seen comment from people in the sector who have a have seen comment from people in the sector who have a different have seen comment from people in the sector who have a different view have seen comment from people in the sector who have a different view on sector who have a different view on the sector who have a different view on the issues sector who have a different view on the issues around sector who have a different view on the issues around price sector who have a different view on the issues around price and sector who have a different view on the issues around price and supply. the issues around price and supply. The the issues around price and supply. The reality the issues around price and supply. The reality is, the issues around price and supply. The reality is, Mr the issues around price and supply. The reality is, Mr Speaker, the issues around price and supply. The reality is, Mr Speaker, that the issues around price and supply. The reality is, Mr Speaker, that a The reality is, Mr Speaker, that a range The reality is, Mr Speaker, that a range of The reality is, Mr Speaker, that a range of countries The reality is, Mr Speaker, that a range of countries around The reality is, Mr Speaker, that a range of countries around the The reality is, Mr Speaker, that a range of countries around the world range of countries around the world have range of countries around the world have used range of countries around the world have used the range of countries around the world have used the discount range of countries around the world have used the discount scheme have used the discount scheme similar have used the discount scheme similar to have used the discount scheme similar to the have used the discount scheme similar to the clean have used the discount scheme similar to the clean car have used the discount scheme similar to the clean car discount similar to the clean car discount and similar to the clean car discount and it's similar to the clean car discount and it's resulted similar to the clean car discount and it's resulted in similar to the clean car discount and it's resulted in lower similar to the clean car discount and it's resulted in lower prices and it's resulted in lower prices for and it's resulted in lower prices for cleaner and it's resulted in lower prices for cleaner vehicles and it's resulted in lower prices for cleaner vehicles and and it's resulted in lower prices for cleaner vehicles and we and it's resulted in lower prices for cleaner vehicles and we expect for cleaner vehicles and we expect the for cleaner vehicles and we expect the same for cleaner vehicles and we expect the same in for cleaner vehicles and we expect the same in New for cleaner vehicles and we expect the same in New Zealand. for cleaner vehicles and we expect the same in New Zealand. Does for cleaner vehicles and we expect the same in New Zealand. Does he the same in New Zealand. Does he believe the same in New Zealand. Does he believe that the same in New Zealand. Does he believe that a the same in New Zealand. Does he believe that a 20% the same in New Zealand. Does he believe that a 20% increase the same in New Zealand. Does he believe that a 20% increase in the same in New Zealand. Does he believe that a 20% increase in the believe that a 20% increase in the price believe that a 20% increase in the price of believe that a 20% increase in the price of a believe that a 20% increase in the price of a vehicle believe that a 20% increase in the price of a vehicle only believe that a 20% increase in the price of a vehicle only three believe that a 20% increase in the price of a vehicle only three days price of a vehicle only three days after price of a vehicle only three days after an price of a vehicle only three days after an announcement price of a vehicle only three days after an announcement affecting price of a vehicle only three days after an announcement affecting that after an announcement affecting that market after an announcement affecting that market is after an announcement affecting that market is a after an announcement affecting that market is a coincidence? after an announcement affecting that market is a coincidence? Mr after an announcement affecting that market is a coincidence? Mr Speaker, market is a coincidence? Mr Speaker, I market is a coincidence? Mr Speaker, I think market is a coincidence? Mr Speaker, I think the market is a coincidence? Mr Speaker, I think the member market is a coincidence? Mr Speaker, I think the member is market is a coincidence? Mr Speaker, I think the member is extrapolating I think the member is extrapolating significantly I think the member is extrapolating significantly from I think the member is extrapolating significantly from one I think the member is extrapolating significantly from one comment I think the member is extrapolating significantly from one comment in I think the member is extrapolating significantly from one comment in an significantly from one comment in an article, significantly from one comment in an article, noting significantly from one comment in an article, noting the significantly from one comment in an article, noting the discount significantly from one comment in an article, noting the discount has significantly from one comment in an article, noting the discount has not article, noting the discount has not come article, noting the discount has not come into article, noting the discount has not come into account, article, noting the discount has not come into account, so article, noting the discount has not come into account, so it article, noting the discount has not come into account, so it would article, noting the discount has not come into account, so it would be come into account, so it would be possible come into account, so it would be possible to come into account, so it would be possible to say come into account, so it would be possible to say exactly come into account, so it would be possible to say exactly what come into account, so it would be possible to say exactly what the possible to say exactly what the price possible to say exactly what the price implication possible to say exactly what the price implication was possible to say exactly what the price implication was for possible to say exactly what the price implication was for Kiwi price implication was for Kiwi consumers. 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Mr consequence of the rebate scheme and was this advice ignored? Mr Speaker, was this advice ignored? Mr Speaker, no, was this advice ignored? Mr Speaker, no, the was this advice ignored? Mr Speaker, no, the advice was this advice ignored? Mr Speaker, no, the advice wasn't was this advice ignored? Mr Speaker, no, the advice wasn't ignored. was this advice ignored? Mr Speaker, no, the advice wasn't ignored. In no, the advice wasn't ignored. In fact, no, the advice wasn't ignored. In fact, the no, the advice wasn't ignored. In fact, the scheme no, the advice wasn't ignored. In fact, the scheme has no, the advice wasn't ignored. In fact, the scheme has been fact, the scheme has been substantially fact, the scheme has been substantially supported fact, the scheme has been substantially supported by fact, the scheme has been substantially supported by the substantially supported by the vehicle substantially supported by the vehicle sector. substantially supported by the vehicle sector. The substantially supported by the vehicle sector. The AA substantially supported by the vehicle sector. The AA and substantially supported by the vehicle sector. The AA and the substantially supported by the vehicle sector. The AA and the motor vehicle sector. The AA and the motor industry vehicle sector. The AA and the motor industry association vehicle sector. The AA and the motor industry association have vehicle sector. The AA and the motor industry association have both vehicle sector. The AA and the motor industry association have both come industry association have both come out industry association have both come out in industry association have both come out in support industry association have both come out in support of industry association have both come out in support of the industry association have both come out in support of the scheme industry association have both come out in support of the scheme and industry association have both come out in support of the scheme and I out in support of the scheme and I quote out in support of the scheme and I quote directorly out in support of the scheme and I quote directorly from out in support of the scheme and I quote directorly from David quote directorly from David Crawfordment quote directorly from David Crawfordment "We quote directorly from David Crawfordment "We are quote directorly from David Crawfordment "We are delighted quote directorly from David Crawfordment "We are delighted that Crawfordment "We are delighted that at Crawfordment "We are delighted that at last Crawfordment "We are delighted that at last the Crawfordment "We are delighted that at last the government Crawfordment "We are delighted that at last the government has Crawfordment "We are delighted that at last the government has confirmed at last the government has confirmed details at last the government has confirmed details of at last the government has confirmed details of a at last the government has confirmed details of a clean at last the government has confirmed details of a clean car at last the government has confirmed details of a clean car incentive details of a clean car incentive scheme." details of a clean car incentive scheme." That's details of a clean car incentive scheme." That's David details of a clean car incentive scheme." That's David Crawford details of a clean car incentive scheme." That's David Crawford from scheme." That's David Crawford from the scheme." That's David Crawford from the motor scheme." That's David Crawford from the motor industry scheme." That's David Crawford from the motor industry association. scheme." That's David Crawford from the motor industry association. Will the motor industry association. Will he the motor industry association. Will he adjust the motor industry association. Will he adjust his the motor industry association. Will he adjust his policy the motor industry association. Will he adjust his policy if the motor industry association. Will he adjust his policy if it's he adjust his policy if it's apparent he adjust his policy if it's apparent that he adjust his policy if it's apparent that people he adjust his policy if it's apparent that people who he adjust his policy if it's apparent that people who need he adjust his policy if it's apparent that people who need utes apparent that people who need utes for apparent that people who need utes for work apparent that people who need utes for work are apparent that people who need utes for work are simply apparent that people who need utes for work are simply being apparent that people who need utes for work are simply being taxed apparent that people who need utes for work are simply being taxed and for work are simply being taxed and boosting for work are simply being taxed and boosting the for work are simply being taxed and boosting the economy for work are simply being taxed and boosting the economy of for work are simply being taxed and boosting the economy of Japan? for work are simply being taxed and boosting the economy of Japan? Mr boosting the economy of Japan? Mr Speaker, boosting the economy of Japan? Mr Speaker, we boosting the economy of Japan? Mr Speaker, we fully boosting the economy of Japan? Mr Speaker, we fully expect boosting the economy of Japan? Mr Speaker, we fully expect that boosting the economy of Japan? Mr Speaker, we fully expect that the Speaker, we fully expect that the clean Speaker, we fully expect that the clean car Speaker, we fully expect that the clean car discount Speaker, we fully expect that the clean car discount will Speaker, we fully expect that the clean car discount will allow Speaker, we fully expect that the clean car discount will allow more clean car discount will allow more Kiwis clean car discount will allow more Kiwis to clean car discount will allow more Kiwis to buy clean car discount will allow more Kiwis to buy cleaner clean car discount will allow more Kiwis to buy cleaner vehicles. Kiwis to buy cleaner vehicles. That's Kiwis to buy cleaner vehicles. That's what Kiwis to buy cleaner vehicles. That's what it Kiwis to buy cleaner vehicles. That's what it is Kiwis to buy cleaner vehicles. That's what it is designed Kiwis to buy cleaner vehicles. That's what it is designed to Kiwis to buy cleaner vehicles. That's what it is designed to do Kiwis to buy cleaner vehicles. That's what it is designed to do and That's what it is designed to do and that's That's what it is designed to do and that's what That's what it is designed to do and that's what we That's what it is designed to do and that's what we expect That's what it is designed to do and that's what we expect it That's what it is designed to do and that's what we expect it to That's what it is designed to do and that's what we expect it to do That's what it is designed to do and that's what we expect it to do based that's what we expect it to do based on that's what we expect it to do based on the that's what we expect it to do based on the international that's what we expect it to do based on the international evidence. on the international evidence. Question on the international evidence. Question No. on the international evidence. Question No. 9. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for the My question is to the Minister for the Environment: My question is to the Minister for the Environment: What My question is to the Minister for the Environment: What announcements the Environment: What announcements has the Environment: What announcements has the the Environment: What announcements has the Government the Environment: What announcements has the Government made the Environment: What announcements has the Government made regarding has the Government made regarding reform has the Government made regarding reform of has the Government made regarding reform of the has the Government made regarding reform of the resource has the Government made regarding reform of the resource management reform of the resource management system? The The Hon The Hon David The Hon David Parker. The Hon David Parker. Thank The Hon David Parker. Thank you, The Hon David Parker. Thank you, Mr The Hon David Parker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The Hon David Parker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Today The Hon David Parker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Today the The Hon David Parker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Today the government Speaker. Today the government released Speaker. Today the government released an Speaker. Today the government released an exposure Speaker. Today the government released an exposure draft Speaker. Today the government released an exposure draft of Speaker. Today the government released an exposure draft of core released an exposure draft of core provisions released an exposure draft of core provisions of released an exposure draft of core provisions of the released an exposure draft of core provisions of the proposed released an exposure draft of core provisions of the proposed law released an exposure draft of core provisions of the proposed law to provisions of the proposed law to replace provisions of the proposed law to replace the provisions of the proposed law to replace the Resource provisions of the proposed law to replace the Resource Management provisions of the proposed law to replace the Resource Management Act. replace the Resource Management Act. I replace the Resource Management Act. I intend replace the Resource Management Act. I intend to replace the Resource Management Act. I intend to refer replace the Resource Management Act. I intend to refer this replace the Resource Management Act. I intend to refer this draft replace the Resource Management Act. I intend to refer this draft and replace the Resource Management Act. I intend to refer this draft and the I intend to refer this draft and the accompanying I intend to refer this draft and the accompanying parliamentary I intend to refer this draft and the accompanying parliamentary paper accompanying parliamentary paper that accompanying parliamentary paper that has accompanying parliamentary paper that has been accompanying parliamentary paper that has been tabled accompanying parliamentary paper that has been tabled in accompanying parliamentary paper that has been tabled in the accompanying parliamentary paper that has been tabled in the House accompanying parliamentary paper that has been tabled in the House to that has been tabled in the House to the that has been tabled in the House to the environment that has been tabled in the House to the environment committee that has been tabled in the House to the environment committee for the environment committee for consideration. the environment committee for consideration. The the environment committee for consideration. The natural the environment committee for consideration. The natural and the environment committee for consideration. The natural and built consideration. The natural and built environments consideration. The natural and built environments act consideration. The natural and built environments act covers consideration. The natural and built environments act covers land consideration. The natural and built environments act covers land use consideration. The natural and built environments act covers land use and environments act covers land use and environmental environments act covers land use and environmental protection. environments act covers land use and environmental protection. It environments act covers land use and environmental protection. It will environments act covers land use and environmental protection. It will be environmental protection. It will be the environmental protection. It will be the primary environmental protection. It will be the primary replacement environmental protection. It will be the primary replacement for environmental protection. It will be the primary replacement for the environmental protection. It will be the primary replacement for the RMA the primary replacement for the RMA which the primary replacement for the RMA which the the primary replacement for the RMA which the government the primary replacement for the RMA which the government promised the primary replacement for the RMA which the government promised at the primary replacement for the RMA which the government promised at the which the government promised at the election which the government promised at the election to which the government promised at the election to repeal which the government promised at the election to repeal and which the government promised at the election to repeal and replace. which the government promised at the election to repeal and replace. The election to repeal and replace. The proposed election to repeal and replace. The proposed strategic election to repeal and replace. The proposed strategic planning election to repeal and replace. The proposed strategic planning act election to repeal and replace. The proposed strategic planning act will proposed strategic planning act will sit proposed strategic planning act will sit above proposed strategic planning act will sit above the proposed strategic planning act will sit above the MBA proposed strategic planning act will sit above the MBA to proposed strategic planning act will sit above the MBA to develop sit above the MBA to develop long-term sit above the MBA to develop long-term regional sit above the MBA to develop long-term regional spatial long-term regional spatial strategies. long-term regional spatial strategies. Improving long-term regional spatial strategies. Improving our long-term regional spatial strategies. Improving our planning strategies. Improving our planning systems strategies. Improving our planning systems is strategies. Improving our planning systems is a strategies. Improving our planning systems is a priority strategies. Improving our planning systems is a priority for strategies. Improving our planning systems is a priority for the systems is a priority for the government. systems is a priority for the government. The systems is a priority for the government. The current systems is a priority for the government. The current system systems is a priority for the government. The current system takes government. The current system takes too government. The current system takes too long, government. The current system takes too long, costs government. The current system takes too long, costs too government. The current system takes too long, costs too much, government. The current system takes too long, costs too much, has government. The current system takes too long, costs too much, has not too long, costs too much, has not adequately too long, costs too much, has not adequately protected too long, costs too much, has not adequately protected the too long, costs too much, has not adequately protected the environment adequately protected the environment nor adequately protected the environment nor sufficiently adequately protected the environment nor sufficiently enabled adequately protected the environment nor sufficiently enabled development nor sufficiently enabled development like nor sufficiently enabled development like housing. nor sufficiently enabled development like housing. Supplementary. nor sufficiently enabled development like housing. Supplementary. How like housing. Supplementary. How will like housing. Supplementary. How will the like housing. Supplementary. How will the MBA like housing. Supplementary. How will the MBA protect like housing. Supplementary. How will the MBA protect the like housing. Supplementary. How will the MBA protect the environment will the MBA protect the environment and will the MBA protect the environment and support will the MBA protect the environment and support development? will the MBA protect the environment and support development? Mr will the MBA protect the environment and support development? Mr Speaker, and support development? Mr Speaker, a and support development? Mr Speaker, a new and support development? Mr Speaker, a new national and support development? Mr Speaker, a new national planning and support development? Mr Speaker, a new national planning framework a new national planning framework will a new national planning framework will provide a new national planning framework will provide clear a new national planning framework will provide clear direction a new national planning framework will provide clear direction on a new national planning framework will provide clear direction on how will provide clear direction on how the will provide clear direction on how the system will provide clear direction on how the system is will provide clear direction on how the system is implemented. will provide clear direction on how the system is implemented. It's the system is implemented. It's integrated the system is implemented. It's integrated provisions the system is implemented. It's integrated provisions will the system is implemented. It's integrated provisions will include integrated provisions will include mandatory integrated provisions will include mandatory environmental integrated provisions will include mandatory environmental limits integrated provisions will include mandatory environmental limits to mandatory environmental limits to avoid mandatory environmental limits to avoid a mandatory environmental limits to avoid a reversible mandatory environmental limits to avoid a reversible -- mandatory environmental limits to avoid a reversible -- irreversible avoid a reversible -- irreversible harm avoid a reversible -- irreversible harm to avoid a reversible -- irreversible harm to the avoid a reversible -- irreversible harm to the environment avoid a reversible -- irreversible harm to the environment including harm to the environment including limits harm to the environment including limits to harm to the environment including limits to fresh harm to the environment including limits to fresh water harm to the environment including limits to fresh water and limits to fresh water and biosecurity. limits to fresh water and biosecurity. Development limits to fresh water and biosecurity. Development will limits to fresh water and biosecurity. Development will be biosecurity. Development will be better biosecurity. Development will be better enabled biosecurity. Development will be better enabled within biosecurity. Development will be better enabled within these better enabled within these environmental better enabled within these environmental limits. better enabled within these environmental limits. The better enabled within these environmental limits. The national environmental limits. The national planning environmental limits. The national planning framework environmental limits. The national planning framework will environmental limits. The national planning framework will for environmental limits. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for COVID-19 My question is to the Minister for COVID-19 Response: My question is to the Minister for COVID-19 Response: What My question is to the Minister for COVID-19 Response: What percentage COVID-19 Response: What percentage of COVID-19 Response: What percentage of people COVID-19 Response: What percentage of people in COVID-19 Response: What percentage of people in each COVID-19 Response: What percentage of people in each of COVID-19 Response: What percentage of people in each of the of people in each of the Government's of people in each of the Government's COVID-19 of people in each of the Government's COVID-19 vaccine Government's COVID-19 vaccine subgroups Government's COVID-19 vaccine subgroups have Government's COVID-19 vaccine subgroups have not Government's COVID-19 vaccine subgroups have not received Government's COVID-19 vaccine subgroups have not received at Government's COVID-19 vaccine subgroups have not received at least subgroups have not received at least one subgroups have not received at least one COVID-19 subgroups have not received at least one COVID-19 vaccination, subgroups have not received at least one COVID-19 vaccination, and subgroups have not received at least one COVID-19 vaccination, and is subgroups have not received at least one COVID-19 vaccination, and is he one COVID-19 vaccination, and is he satisfied one COVID-19 vaccination, and is he satisfied with one COVID-19 vaccination, and is he satisfied with the one COVID-19 vaccination, and is he satisfied with the vaccine one COVID-19 vaccination, and is he satisfied with the vaccine roll-out satisfied with the vaccine roll-out in satisfied with the vaccine roll-out in New satisfied with the vaccine roll-out in New Zealand? The The Hon The Hon Chris The Hon Chris Bishop. The Hon Chris Bishop. As The Hon Chris Bishop. As I The Hon Chris Bishop. As I indicated The Hon Chris Bishop. As I indicated to The Hon Chris Bishop. As I indicated to the The Hon Chris Bishop. As I indicated to the member The Hon Chris Bishop. As I indicated to the member last The Hon Chris Bishop. As I indicated to the member last week, The Hon Chris Bishop. As I indicated to the member last week, the The Hon Chris Bishop. 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Mr border you have to have been vaccinated? Mr Speaker, border you have to have been vaccinated? Mr Speaker, the border you have to have been vaccinated? Mr Speaker, the public vaccinated? Mr Speaker, the public health vaccinated? Mr Speaker, the public health rationale, vaccinated? Mr Speaker, the public health rationale, the vaccinated? Mr Speaker, the public health rationale, the public vaccinated? Mr Speaker, the public health rationale, the public health health rationale, the public health grounds health rationale, the public health grounds for health rationale, the public health grounds for doing health rationale, the public health grounds for doing so, health rationale, the public health grounds for doing so, would health rationale, the public health grounds for doing so, would not health rationale, the public health grounds for doing so, would not be grounds for doing so, would not be strong grounds for doing so, would not be strong enough grounds for doing so, would not be strong enough to grounds for doing so, would not be strong enough to capture grounds for doing so, would not be strong enough to capture absolutely strong enough to capture absolutely everybody strong enough to capture absolutely everybody that strong enough to capture absolutely everybody that works strong enough to capture absolutely everybody that works at strong enough to capture absolutely everybody that works at the strong enough to capture absolutely everybody that works at the border. everybody that works at the border. In everybody that works at the border. In fact, everybody that works at the border. In fact, it everybody that works at the border. In fact, it would everybody that works at the border. In fact, it would be everybody that works at the border. In fact, it would be deemed everybody that works at the border. In fact, it would be deemed - everybody that works at the border. 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Why working in lower risk roles. Why will working in lower risk roles. Why will no working in lower risk roles. Why will no checks working in lower risk roles. Why will no checks be working in lower risk roles. Why will no checks be carried working in lower risk roles. Why will no checks be carried out working in lower risk roles. Why will no checks be carried out on working in lower risk roles. Why will no checks be carried out on the will no checks be carried out on the eligibility will no checks be carried out on the eligibility of will no checks be carried out on the eligibility of bookings will no checks be carried out on the eligibility of bookings made will no checks be carried out on the eligibility of bookings made via will no checks be carried out on the eligibility of bookings made via the eligibility of bookings made via the book eligibility of bookings made via the book my eligibility of bookings made via the book my vaccine eligibility of bookings made via the book my vaccine system eligibility of bookings made via the book my vaccine system as eligibility of bookings made via the book my vaccine system as to eligibility of bookings made via the book my vaccine system as to whether book my vaccine system as to whether an book my vaccine system as to whether an individual book my vaccine system as to whether an individual at book my vaccine system as to whether an individual at the book my vaccine system as to whether an individual at the time book my vaccine system as to whether an individual at the time of book my vaccine system as to whether an individual at the time of the an individual at the time of the booking an individual at the time of the booking belongs an individual at the time of the booking belongs to an individual at the time of the booking belongs to the an individual at the time of the booking belongs to the correct an individual at the time of the booking belongs to the correct age booking belongs to the correct age group booking belongs to the correct age group that booking belongs to the correct age group that is booking belongs to the correct age group that is being booking belongs to the correct age group that is being vaccinated booking belongs to the correct age group that is being vaccinated at group that is being vaccinated at the group that is being vaccinated at the time? group that is being vaccinated at the time? Mr group that is being vaccinated at the time? Mr Speaker, group that is being vaccinated at the time? Mr Speaker, in group that is being vaccinated at the time? Mr Speaker, in order group that is being vaccinated at the time? Mr Speaker, in order to the time? Mr Speaker, in order to receive the time? Mr Speaker, in order to receive on the time? Mr Speaker, in order to receive on invitation the time? Mr Speaker, in order to receive on invitation to the time? Mr Speaker, in order to receive on invitation to book the time? 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Why did an official say last person would have to be eligible. 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Will encourage people realery speak to the plan." Will that encourage people realery speak to the plan." Will that 30-year-old the plan." Will that 30-year-old being the plan." Will that 30-year-old being vaccinate the plan." Will that 30-year-old being vaccinate fundamental the plan." Will that 30-year-old being vaccinate fundamental they being vaccinate fundamental they turn being vaccinate fundamental they turn up being vaccinate fundamental they turn up even being vaccinate fundamental they turn up even if being vaccinate fundamental they turn up even if they're being vaccinate fundamental they turn up even if they're 35 being vaccinate fundamental they turn up even if they're 35 years turn up even if they're 35 years away turn up even if they're 35 years away from turn up even if they're 35 years away from being turn up even if they're 35 years away from being eligible. turn up even if they're 35 years away from being eligible. I turn up even if they're 35 years away from being eligible. I don't away from being eligible. I don't know away from being eligible. I don't know who away from being eligible. I don't know who said away from being eligible. I don't know who said that, away from being eligible. I don't know who said that, it away from being eligible. I don't know who said that, it wasn't away from being eligible. I don't know who said that, it wasn't me. know who said that, it wasn't me. Question know who said that, it wasn't me. Question number know who said that, it wasn't me. Question number 11. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Police: My question is to the Minister of Police: What My question is to the Minister of Police: What recent My question is to the Minister of Police: What recent reports My question is to the Minister of Police: What recent reports has My question is to the Minister of Police: What recent reports has she Police: What recent reports has she seen Police: What recent reports has she seen regarding Police: What recent reports has she seen regarding Police's Police: What recent reports has she seen regarding Police's efforts Police: What recent reports has she seen regarding Police's efforts to seen regarding Police's efforts to disrupt seen regarding Police's efforts to disrupt organised seen regarding Police's efforts to disrupt organised crime? The The Hon The Hon Poto The Hon Poto Williams. The Hon Poto Williams. Mr The Hon Poto Williams. Mr Speaker, The Hon Poto Williams. Mr Speaker, I The Hon Poto Williams. Mr Speaker, I have The Hon Poto Williams. Mr Speaker, I have seen The Hon Poto Williams. Mr Speaker, I have seen reported The Hon Poto Williams. Mr Speaker, I have seen reported that The Hon Poto Williams. Mr Speaker, I have seen reported that police The Hon Poto Williams. Mr Speaker, I have seen reported that police have have seen reported that police have met have seen reported that police have met and have seen reported that police have met and indeed have seen reported that police have met and indeed exceeded have seen reported that police have met and indeed exceeded their have seen reported that police have met and indeed exceeded their target met and indeed exceeded their target of met and indeed exceeded their target of seizing met and indeed exceeded their target of seizing $500 met and indeed exceeded their target of seizing $500 million met and indeed exceeded their target of seizing $500 million in met and indeed exceeded their target of seizing $500 million in cash met and indeed exceeded their target of seizing $500 million in cash and of seizing $500 million in cash and assets of seizing $500 million in cash and assets from of seizing $500 million in cash and assets from organised of seizing $500 million in cash and assets from organised crime of seizing $500 million in cash and assets from organised crime in of seizing $500 million in cash and assets from organised crime in just assets from organised crime in just the assets from organised crime in just the last assets from organised crime in just the last four assets from organised crime in just the last four years. assets from organised crime in just the last four years. Gangs assets from organised crime in just the last four years. Gangs should the last four years. Gangs should not the last four years. Gangs should not be the last four years. Gangs should not be making the last four years. Gangs should not be making money the last four years. Gangs should not be making money out the last four years. Gangs should not be making money out of not be making money out of exploiting not be making money out of exploiting our not be making money out of exploiting our communities. not be making money out of exploiting our communities. This exploiting our communities. This government exploiting our communities. This government is exploiting our communities. This government is very exploiting our communities. This government is very clear, exploiting our communities. This government is very clear, we exploiting our communities. This government is very clear, we will government is very clear, we will not government is very clear, we will not tolerate government is very clear, we will not tolerate organised government is very clear, we will not tolerate organised crime government is very clear, we will not tolerate organised crime and not tolerate organised crime and gangs not tolerate organised crime and gangs and not tolerate organised crime and gangs and I not tolerate organised crime and gangs and I want not tolerate organised crime and gangs and I want to not tolerate organised crime and gangs and I want to congratulate not tolerate organised crime and gangs and I want to congratulate the gangs and I want to congratulate the police gangs and I want to congratulate the police on gangs and I want to congratulate the police on their gangs and I want to congratulate the police on their fantastic gangs and I want to congratulate the police on their fantastic efforts gangs and I want to congratulate the police on their fantastic efforts to police on their fantastic efforts to disrupt police on their fantastic efforts to disrupt organised police on their fantastic efforts to disrupt organised crime. disrupt organised crime. Supplementary. disrupt organised crime. Supplementary. What disrupt organised crime. Supplementary. What impact disrupt organised crime. Supplementary. What impact will Supplementary. What impact will these Supplementary. What impact will these seizures Supplementary. What impact will these seizures have Supplementary. What impact will these seizures have on Supplementary. What impact will these seizures have on organised these seizures have on organised crime? these seizures have on organised crime? Mr these seizures have on organised crime? Mr Speaker, these seizures have on organised crime? Mr Speaker, aside these seizures have on organised crime? Mr Speaker, aside from these seizures have on organised crime? Mr Speaker, aside from taking crime? Mr Speaker, aside from taking over crime? Mr Speaker, aside from taking over $500 crime? Mr Speaker, aside from taking over $500 million crime? Mr Speaker, aside from taking over $500 million of crime? Mr Speaker, aside from taking over $500 million of ill-gotten over $500 million of ill-gotten gains over $500 million of ill-gotten gains out over $500 million of ill-gotten gains out of over $500 million of ill-gotten gains out of the over $500 million of ill-gotten gains out of the hands over $500 million of ill-gotten gains out of the hands of over $500 million of ill-gotten gains out of the hands of organised gains out of the hands of organised crime, gains out of the hands of organised crime, we gains out of the hands of organised crime, we know gains out of the hands of organised crime, we know that gains out of the hands of organised crime, we know that this gains out of the hands of organised crime, we know that this has gains out of the hands of organised crime, we know that this has a gains out of the hands of organised crime, we know that this has a wider crime, we know that this has a wider impact crime, we know that this has a wider impact on crime, we know that this has a wider impact on gangs. crime, we know that this has a wider impact on gangs. For crime, we know that this has a wider impact on gangs. For every crime, we know that this has a wider impact on gangs. For every $1 impact on gangs. For every $1 restrained impact on gangs. For every $1 restrained $330 impact on gangs. For every $1 restrained $330 of impact on gangs. For every $1 restrained $330 of crime impact on gangs. For every $1 restrained $330 of crime is restrained $330 of crime is disrupted. restrained $330 of crime is disrupted. For restrained $330 of crime is disrupted. For every restrained $330 of crime is disrupted. For every $1 disrupted. For every $1 forfeited,$3.50 disrupted. For every $1 forfeited,$3.50 of disrupted. For every $1 forfeited,$3.50 of crime disrupted. For every $1 forfeited,$3.50 of crime is forfeited,$3.50 of crime is disrupted. forfeited,$3.50 of crime is disrupted. Meaning forfeited,$3.50 of crime is disrupted. Meaning that forfeited,$3.50 of crime is disrupted. Meaning that in forfeited,$3.50 of crime is disrupted. Meaning that in the forfeited,$3.50 of crime is disrupted. Meaning that in the last disrupted. Meaning that in the last four disrupted. Meaning that in the last four years disrupted. Meaning that in the last four years alone disrupted. Meaning that in the last four years alone this disrupted. Meaning that in the last four years alone this government disrupted. Meaning that in the last four years alone this government has four years alone this government has removed four years alone this government has removed approximately four years alone this government has removed approximately $1.6 four years alone this government has removed approximately $1.6 billion removed approximately $1.6 billion from removed approximately $1.6 billion from the removed approximately $1.6 billion from the illicit removed approximately $1.6 billion from the illicit economy. from the illicit economy. Supplementary. from the illicit economy. Supplementary. What from the illicit economy. Supplementary. What other from the illicit economy. Supplementary. What other reports Supplementary. What other reports has Supplementary. What other reports has the Supplementary. What other reports has the minister Supplementary. What other reports has the minister seen Supplementary. What other reports has the minister seen regarding has the minister seen regarding police's has the minister seen regarding police's efforts has the minister seen regarding police's efforts to has the minister seen regarding police's efforts to disrupt police's efforts to disrupt organised police's efforts to disrupt organised crime. police's efforts to disrupt organised crime. Mr police's efforts to disrupt organised crime. Mr Speaker, police's efforts to disrupt organised crime. Mr Speaker, I police's efforts to disrupt organised crime. Mr Speaker, I have organised crime. Mr Speaker, I have seen organised crime. Mr Speaker, I have seen a organised crime. Mr Speaker, I have seen a report organised crime. Mr Speaker, I have seen a report regarding organised crime. Mr Speaker, I have seen a report regarding police seen a report regarding police ongoing seen a report regarding police ongoing operation seen a report regarding police ongoing operation noting seen a report regarding police ongoing operation noting that seen a report regarding police ongoing operation noting that as seen a report regarding police ongoing operation noting that as at ongoing operation noting that as at 18 ongoing operation noting that as at 18 June ongoing operation noting that as at 18 June police ongoing operation noting that as at 18 June police have ongoing operation noting that as at 18 June police have seized ongoing operation noting that as at 18 June police have seized $4.18 18 June police have seized $4.18 million 18 June police have seized $4.18 million in 18 June police have seized $4.18 million in cash 18 June police have seized $4.18 million in cash from 18 June police have seized $4.18 million in cash from organised 18 June police have seized $4.18 million in cash from organised crime million in cash from organised crime groups, million in cash from organised crime groups, seized million in cash from organised crime groups, seized 715 million in cash from organised crime groups, seized 715 firearms, million in cash from organised crime groups, seized 715 firearms, sized groups, seized 715 firearms, sized 17.74kg groups, seized 715 firearms, sized 17.74kg of groups, seized 715 firearms, sized 17.74kg of meth, groups, seized 715 firearms, sized 17.74kg of meth, arrested groups, seized 715 firearms, sized 17.74kg of meth, arrested 649 17.74kg of meth, arrested 649 people. 17.74kg of meth, arrested 649 people. This 17.74kg of meth, arrested 649 people. This is 17.74kg of meth, arrested 649 people. This is truly 17.74kg of meth, arrested 649 people. This is truly fantastic 17.74kg of meth, arrested 649 people. This is truly fantastic work people. This is truly fantastic work from people. This is truly fantastic work from our people. This is truly fantastic work from our police. people. This is truly fantastic work from our police. Supplementary. people. This is truly fantastic work from our police. Supplementary. How from our police. Supplementary. How is from our police. Supplementary. How is the from our police. Supplementary. How is the government from our police. Supplementary. How is the government continuing from our police. Supplementary. How is the government continuing to is the government continuing to support is the government continuing to support police's is the government continuing to support police's efforts is the government continuing to support police's efforts to is the government continuing to support police's efforts to disrupt support police's efforts to disrupt organised support police's efforts to disrupt organised crime? support police's efforts to disrupt organised crime? Mr support police's efforts to disrupt organised crime? Mr Speaker, support police's efforts to disrupt organised crime? Mr Speaker, this organised crime? Mr Speaker, this government organised crime? Mr Speaker, this government has organised crime? Mr Speaker, this government has put organised crime? Mr Speaker, this government has put a organised crime? Mr Speaker, this government has put a record organised crime? Mr Speaker, this government has put a record number government has put a record number of government has put a record number of police government has put a record number of police on government has put a record number of police on the government has put a record number of police on the front-line of police on the front-line including of police on the front-line including those of police on the front-line including those with of police on the front-line including those with a of police on the front-line including those with a specific including those with a specific focus including those with a specific focus on including those with a specific focus on organised including those with a specific focus on organised crime. including those with a specific focus on organised crime. And including those with a specific focus on organised crime. And as including those with a specific focus on organised crime. And as a focus on organised crime. And as a result focus on organised crime. And as a result of focus on organised crime. And as a result of this focus on organised crime. And as a result of this investment focus on organised crime. And as a result of this investment continues result of this investment continues to result of this investment continues to pay result of this investment continues to pay off. result of this investment continues to pay off. Recent result of this investment continues to pay off. Recent weeks result of this investment continues to pay off. Recent weeks have result of this investment continues to pay off. Recent weeks have seen to pay off. Recent weeks have seen police to pay off. Recent weeks have seen police achieve to pay off. Recent weeks have seen police achieve New to pay off. Recent weeks have seen police achieve New Zealand's to pay off. Recent weeks have seen police achieve New Zealand's largest police achieve New Zealand's largest ever police achieve New Zealand's largest ever forfeiture police achieve New Zealand's largest ever forfeiture under police achieve New Zealand's largest ever forfeiture under the police achieve New Zealand's largest ever forfeiture under the criminal ever forfeiture under the criminal proceeds ever forfeiture under the criminal proceeds recovery ever forfeiture under the criminal proceeds recovery act ever forfeiture under the criminal proceeds recovery act when ever forfeiture under the criminal proceeds recovery act when the ever forfeiture under the criminal proceeds recovery act when the High proceeds recovery act when the High Court proceeds recovery act when the High Court approved proceeds recovery act when the High Court approved a proceeds recovery act when the High Court approved a forfeiture Court approved a forfeiture settlement Court approved a forfeiture settlement of Court approved a forfeiture settlement of over Court approved a forfeiture settlement of over $70 Court approved a forfeiture settlement of over $70 million. settlement of over $70 million. Question settlement of over $70 million. Question number settlement of over $70 million. Question number 12. 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The The Hon The Hon Andrew The Hon Andrew Little. The Hon Andrew Little. Mr The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, a The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, a total The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, a total of The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, a total of $24.9 The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, a total of $24.9 million The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, a total of $24.9 million has The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, a total of $24.9 million has been total of $24.9 million has been spent total of $24.9 million has been spent on total of $24.9 million has been spent on the total of $24.9 million has been spent on the 15 total of $24.9 million has been spent on the 15 projects total of $24.9 million has been spent on the 15 projects the total of $24.9 million has been spent on the 15 projects the member spent on the 15 projects the member refers spent on the 15 projects the member refers to. spent on the 15 projects the member refers to. 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