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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. Thank Thank you, Thank you, Mr Thank you, Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Next Thank you, Mr Speaker. Next week, Thank you, Mr Speaker. Next week, the Thank you, Mr Speaker. Next week, the House Thank you, Mr Speaker. Next week, the House will Thank you, Mr Speaker. Next week, the House will meet Thank you, Mr Speaker. Next week, the House will meet in Thank you, Mr Speaker. Next week, the House will meet in a Thank you, Mr Speaker. Next week, the House will meet in a manner the House will meet in a manner that's the House will meet in a manner that's appropriate the House will meet in a manner that's appropriate to the House will meet in a manner that's appropriate to the the House will meet in a manner that's appropriate to the alert that's appropriate to the alert levels that's appropriate to the alert levels we that's appropriate to the alert levels we are that's appropriate to the alert levels we are in that's appropriate to the alert levels we are in at that's appropriate to the alert levels we are in at the that's appropriate to the alert levels we are in at the time. that's appropriate to the alert levels we are in at the time. On levels we are in at the time. On Thursday levels we are in at the time. On Thursday 7 levels we are in at the time. On Thursday 7 September, levels we are in at the time. On Thursday 7 September, the levels we are in at the time. On Thursday 7 September, the estimates Thursday 7 September, the estimates debate Thursday 7 September, the estimates debate will Thursday 7 September, the estimates debate will resume. Thursday 7 September, the estimates debate will resume. Ministers Thursday 7 September, the estimates debate will resume. Ministers to debate will resume. Ministers to appear debate will resume. Ministers to appear have debate will resume. Ministers to appear have yet debate will resume. Ministers to appear have yet to debate will resume. Ministers to appear have yet to be debate will resume. Ministers to appear have yet to be finalised debate will resume. Ministers to appear have yet to be finalised but appear have yet to be finalised but are appear have yet to be finalised but are likely appear have yet to be finalised but are likely to appear have yet to be finalised but are likely to include appear have yet to be finalised but are likely to include the appear have yet to be finalised but are likely to include the Minister are likely to include the Minister of are likely to include the Minister of Finance, are likely to include the Minister of Finance, COVID-19 are likely to include the Minister of Finance, COVID-19 Response, are likely to include the Minister of Finance, COVID-19 Response, and of Finance, COVID-19 Response, and Immigration. of Finance, COVID-19 Response, and Immigration. Further of Finance, COVID-19 Response, and Immigration. Further discussion of Finance, COVID-19 Response, and Immigration. Further discussion is Immigration. Further discussion is taking Immigration. Further discussion is taking place Immigration. Further discussion is taking place over Immigration. Further discussion is taking place over whether Immigration. Further discussion is taking place over whether any Immigration. Further discussion is taking place over whether any other taking place over whether any other ministers taking place over whether any other ministers should taking place over whether any other ministers should appear. taking place over whether any other ministers should appear. As taking place over whether any other ministers should appear. As agreed ministers should appear. As agreed by ministers should appear. As agreed by the ministers should appear. As agreed by the Business ministers should appear. As agreed by the Business Committee, ministers should appear. As agreed by the Business Committee, the by the Business Committee, the Appropriation by the Business Committee, the Appropriation 2021 by the Business Committee, the Appropriation 2021 Estimates by the Business Committee, the Appropriation 2021 Estimates Bill Appropriation 2021 Estimates Bill will Appropriation 2021 Estimates Bill will then Appropriation 2021 Estimates Bill will then be Appropriation 2021 Estimates Bill will then be set Appropriation 2021 Estimates Bill will then be set down Appropriation 2021 Estimates Bill will then be set down for Appropriation 2021 Estimates Bill will then be set down for third will then be set down for third reading. will then be set down for third reading. As will then be set down for third reading. As happens will then be set down for third reading. As happens every will then be set down for third reading. As happens every year, will then be set down for third reading. As happens every year, the reading. As happens every year, the third reading. As happens every year, the third reading reading. As happens every year, the third reading will reading. As happens every year, the third reading will be reading. As happens every year, the third reading will be taken reading. As happens every year, the third reading will be taken with reading. As happens every year, the third reading will be taken with the third reading will be taken with the second third reading will be taken with the second impress third reading will be taken with the second impress supply third reading will be taken with the second impress supply bill. third reading will be taken with the second impress supply bill. There second impress supply bill. There will second impress supply bill. There will be second impress supply bill. There will be oral second impress supply bill. There will be oral questions second impress supply bill. There will be oral questions and second impress supply bill. There will be oral questions and a second impress supply bill. There will be oral questions and a general will be oral questions and a general debate. will be oral questions and a general debate. In will be oral questions and a general debate. In these will be oral questions and a general debate. In these rapidly will be oral questions and a general debate. In these rapidly evolving debate. In these rapidly evolving times debate. In these rapidly evolving times f debate. In these rapidly evolving times f there debate. In these rapidly evolving times f there are debate. In these rapidly evolving times f there are any debate. 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The Hon Michael Woodhouse. parties. The Hon Michael Woodhouse. I parties. The Hon Michael Woodhouse. I thank parties. The Hon Michael Woodhouse. I thank the parties. The Hon Michael Woodhouse. I thank the Leader parties. The Hon Michael Woodhouse. I thank the Leader of parties. The Hon Michael Woodhouse. I thank the Leader of the parties. The Hon Michael Woodhouse. I thank the Leader of the House parties. The Hon Michael Woodhouse. I thank the Leader of the House for I thank the Leader of the House for that I thank the Leader of the House for that update I thank the Leader of the House for that update and I thank the Leader of the House for that update and also I thank the Leader of the House for that update and also for I thank the Leader of the House for that update and also for the that update and also for the constructive that update and also for the constructive discussions that update and also for the constructive discussions that that update and also for the constructive discussions that are constructive discussions that are going constructive discussions that are going on constructive discussions that are going on about constructive discussions that are going on about the constructive discussions that are going on about the programme constructive discussions that are going on about the programme for going on about the programme for next going on about the programme for next week. going on about the programme for next week. 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And, fourth quarter of this year. And, secondly, fourth quarter of this year. And, secondly, Mr fourth quarter of this year. And, secondly, Mr Speaker, fourth quarter of this year. And, secondly, Mr Speaker, I fourth quarter of this year. And, secondly, Mr Speaker, I seek fourth quarter of this year. And, secondly, Mr Speaker, I seek a fourth quarter of this year. And, secondly, Mr Speaker, I seek a point secondly, Mr Speaker, I seek a point of secondly, Mr Speaker, I seek a point of order. secondly, Mr Speaker, I seek a point of order. A secondly, Mr Speaker, I seek a point of order. A point secondly, Mr Speaker, I seek a point of order. A point of secondly, Mr Speaker, I seek a point of order. A point of order, secondly, Mr Speaker, I seek a point of order. A point of order, the secondly, Mr Speaker, I seek a point of order. A point of order, the Hon of order. A point of order, the Hon Michael of order. A point of order, the Hon Michael Woodhouse. of order. A point of order, the Hon Michael Woodhouse. I of order. A point of order, the Hon Michael Woodhouse. I seek of order. A point of order, the Hon Michael Woodhouse. I seek leave of order. A point of order, the Hon Michael Woodhouse. I seek leave for Michael Woodhouse. I seek leave for the Michael Woodhouse. I seek leave for the Speaker Michael Woodhouse. I seek leave for the Speaker to Michael Woodhouse. I seek leave for the Speaker to chair Michael Woodhouse. I seek leave for the Speaker to chair the Michael Woodhouse. I seek leave for the Speaker to chair the Committee the Speaker to chair the Committee on the Speaker to chair the Committee on the the Speaker to chair the Committee on the Whole the Speaker to chair the Committee on the Whole House the Speaker to chair the Committee on the Whole House on the Speaker to chair the Committee on the Whole House on the on the Whole House on the Appropriation on the Whole House on the Appropriation 2021/22 on the Whole House on the Appropriation 2021/22 Estimates Appropriation 2021/22 Estimates Bill, Appropriation 2021/22 Estimates Bill, and Appropriation 2021/22 Estimates Bill, and that Appropriation 2021/22 Estimates Bill, and that while Appropriation 2021/22 Estimates Bill, and that while the Appropriation 2021/22 Estimates Bill, and that while the Speaker Bill, and that while the Speaker chairs Bill, and that while the Speaker chairs the Bill, and that while the Speaker chairs the committee, Bill, and that while the Speaker chairs the committee, no Bill, and that while the Speaker chairs the committee, no motion Bill, and that while the Speaker chairs the committee, no motion to chairs the committee, no motion to report chairs the committee, no motion to report to chairs the committee, no motion to report to obtain chairs the committee, no motion to report to obtain the chairs the committee, no motion to report to obtain the Speaker's report to obtain the Speaker's ruling report to obtain the Speaker's ruling on report to obtain the Speaker's ruling on a report to obtain the Speaker's ruling on a matter report to obtain the Speaker's ruling on a matter of report to obtain the Speaker's ruling on a matter of procedure report to obtain the Speaker's ruling on a matter of procedure be ruling on a matter of procedure be accepted, ruling on a matter of procedure be accepted, despite ruling on a matter of procedure be accepted, despite Standing ruling on a matter of procedure be accepted, despite Standing Orders accepted, despite Standing Orders 173 accepted, despite Standing Orders 173 and accepted, despite Standing Orders 173 and 179. accepted, despite Standing Orders 173 and 179. Is accepted, despite Standing Orders 173 and 179. Is there accepted, despite Standing Orders 173 and 179. Is there any accepted, despite Standing Orders 173 and 179. Is there any objection 173 and 179. Is there any objection to 173 and 179. Is there any objection to that 173 and 179. Is there any objection to that course 173 and 179. Is there any objection to that course of 173 and 179. Is there any objection to that course of action? 173 and 179. Is there any objection to that course of action? There to that course of action? There appears to that course of action? There appears to to that course of action? There appears to be to that course of action? There appears to be none. to that course of action? There appears to be none. Mr to that course of action? There appears to be none. Mr Speaker to that course of action? There appears to be none. Mr Speaker n appears to be none. Mr Speaker n appears to be none. Mr Speaker n appears to be none. Mr Speaker n answer to appears to be none. 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Given absolutely be looking to make up for lost time. Given that absolutely be looking to make up for lost time. Given that there absolutely be looking to make up for lost time. Given that there will absolutely be looking to make up for lost time. Given that there will be lost time. Given that there will be quite lost time. Given that there will be quite a lost time. Given that there will be quite a lot lost time. Given that there will be quite a lot of lost time. Given that there will be quite a lot of business lost time. Given that there will be quite a lot of business being lost time. Given that there will be quite a lot of business being built quite a lot of business being built up quite a lot of business being built up over quite a lot of business being built up over this quite a lot of business being built up over this period, quite a lot of business being built up over this period, I quite a lot of business being built up over this period, I will up over this period, I will endeavour up over this period, I will endeavour to up over this period, I will endeavour to provide up over this period, I will endeavour to provide as up over this period, I will endeavour to provide as much up over this period, I will endeavour to provide as much notice endeavour to provide as much notice of endeavour to provide as much notice of that endeavour to provide as much notice of that as endeavour to provide as much notice of that as we endeavour to provide as much notice of that as we possibly endeavour to provide as much notice of that as we possibly can. endeavour to provide as much notice of that as we possibly can. I endeavour to provide as much notice of that as we possibly can. I would of that as we possibly can. I would also of that as we possibly can. I would also note of that as we possibly can. I would also note that of that as we possibly can. I would also note that it's of that as we possibly can. I would also note that it's not of that as we possibly can. I would also note that it's not just also note that it's not just Government also note that it's not just Government business also note that it's not just Government business that also note that it's not just Government business that will also note that it's not just Government business that will have Government business that will have been Government business that will have been accumulating Government business that will have been accumulating during Government business that will have been accumulating during that Government business that will have been accumulating during that time. been accumulating during that time. We been accumulating during that time. We won't been accumulating during that time. We won't have been accumulating during that time. We won't have had been accumulating during that time. We won't have had members' been accumulating during that time. We won't have had members' days, We won't have had members' days, we've We won't have had members' days, we've already We won't have had members' days, we've already lost We won't have had members' days, we've already lost one We won't have had members' days, we've already lost one and we've already lost one and potentially we've already lost one and potentially could we've already lost one and potentially could lose we've already lost one and potentially could lose more. we've already lost one and potentially could lose more. And potentially could lose more. And therefore potentially could lose more. And therefore I potentially could lose more. And therefore I look potentially could lose more. And therefore I look forward potentially could lose more. And therefore I look forward to potentially could lose more. And therefore I look forward to some therefore I look forward to some constructive therefore I look forward to some constructive discussions therefore I look forward to some constructive discussions about therefore I look forward to some constructive discussions about how constructive discussions about how all constructive discussions about how all of constructive discussions about how all of the constructive discussions about how all of the business constructive discussions about how all of the business before constructive discussions about how all of the business before the constructive discussions about how all of the business before the House all of the business before the House that all of the business before the House that needs all of the business before the House that needs to all of the business before the House that needs to be all of the business before the House that needs to be given all of the business before the House that needs to be given attention all of the business before the House that needs to be given attention to that needs to be given attention to before that needs to be given attention to before Christmas that needs to be given attention to before Christmas can that needs to be given attention to before Christmas can be that needs to be given attention to before Christmas can be progressed. before Christmas can be progressed. No before Christmas can be progressed. No petitions, before Christmas can be progressed. No petitions, papers, before Christmas can be progressed. No petitions, papers, or before Christmas can be progressed. No petitions, papers, or select No petitions, papers, or select committee No petitions, papers, or select committee reports No petitions, papers, or select committee reports have No petitions, papers, or select committee reports have been committee reports have been presented. committee reports have been presented. No committee reports have been presented. No bills committee reports have been presented. No bills have committee reports have been presented. No bills have been presented. No bills have been introduced. presented. No bills have been introduced. The presented. No bills have been introduced. The House presented. No bills have been introduced. The House comes presented. No bills have been introduced. The House comes to presented. No bills have been introduced. The House comes to Oral introduced. The House comes to Oral Questions. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: Minister: Does Minister: Does she Minister: Does she stand Minister: Does she stand by Minister: Does she stand by her Minister: Does she stand by her statement, Does she stand by her statement, "A Does she stand by her statement, "A small Does she stand by her statement, "A small handful "A small handful are "A small handful are not "A small handful are not due "A small handful are not due their "A small handful are not due their day "A small handful are not due their day 12 "A small handful are not due their day 12 test "A small handful are not due their day 12 test - are not due their day 12 test - but are not due their day 12 test - but I are not due their day 12 test - but I would are not due their day 12 test - but I would caution are not due their day 12 test - but I would caution the are not due their day 12 test - but I would caution the member but I would caution the member that but I would caution the member that those but I would caution the member that those are but I would caution the member that those are the but I would caution the member that those are the contacts but I would caution the member that those are the contacts we but I would caution the member that those are the contacts we know that those are the contacts we know about"; about"; if about"; if so, about"; if so, how about"; if so, how many about"; if so, how many contacts about"; if so, how many contacts are about"; if so, how many contacts are still if so, how many contacts are still awaiting if so, how many contacts are still awaiting a if so, how many contacts are still awaiting a test if so, how many contacts are still awaiting a test result if so, how many contacts are still awaiting a test result now? The The Rt The Rt Hon The Rt Hon PM. The Rt Hon PM. Mr The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, as The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, as at The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, as at 9:00am The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, as at 9:00am this The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, as at 9:00am this morning, The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, as at 9:00am this morning, we The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, as at 9:00am this morning, we have The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, as at 9:00am this morning, we have 515 9:00am this morning, we have 515 known 9:00am this morning, we have 515 known contacts 9:00am this morning, we have 515 known contacts in 9:00am this morning, we have 515 known contacts in the 9:00am this morning, we have 515 known contacts in the South 9:00am this morning, we have 515 known contacts in the South Island. known contacts in the South Island. Of known contacts in the South Island. Of that, known contacts in the South Island. Of that, 15 known contacts in the South Island. Of that, 15 are known contacts in the South Island. Of that, 15 are overdue known contacts in the South Island. Of that, 15 are overdue their known contacts in the South Island. Of that, 15 are overdue their day known contacts in the South Island. Of that, 15 are overdue their day 12 Of that, 15 are overdue their day 12 test Of that, 15 are overdue their day 12 test and Of that, 15 are overdue their day 12 test and are Of that, 15 are overdue their day 12 test and are being Of that, 15 are overdue their day 12 test and are being actively Of that, 15 are overdue their day 12 test and are being actively followed test and are being actively followed up test and are being actively followed up by test and are being actively followed up by public test and are being actively followed up by public health test and are being actively followed up by public health units. test and are being actively followed up by public health units. Seven test and are being actively followed up by public health units. Seven are up by public health units. Seven are not up by public health units. Seven are not yet up by public health units. Seven are not yet due up by public health units. Seven are not yet due their up by public health units. Seven are not yet due their day up by public health units. Seven are not yet due their day 12 up by public health units. Seven are not yet due their day 12 test. up by public health units. Seven are not yet due their day 12 test. I not yet due their day 12 test. I would not yet due their day 12 test. I would remind not yet due their day 12 test. I would remind the not yet due their day 12 test. I would remind the member not yet due their day 12 test. I would remind the member that not yet due their day 12 test. I would remind the member that the would remind the member that the restrictions would remind the member that the restrictions that would remind the member that the restrictions that are would remind the member that the restrictions that are in would remind the member that the restrictions that are in place would remind the member that the restrictions that are in place at restrictions that are in place at the restrictions that are in place at the moment restrictions that are in place at the moment across restrictions that are in place at the moment across New restrictions that are in place at the moment across New Zealand restrictions that are in place at the moment across New Zealand in the moment across New Zealand in some the moment across New Zealand in some areas the moment across New Zealand in some areas are the moment across New Zealand in some areas are there the moment across New Zealand in some areas are there as the moment across New Zealand in some areas are there as a the moment across New Zealand in some areas are there as a matter the moment across New Zealand in some areas are there as a matter of some areas are there as a matter of caution, some areas are there as a matter of caution, given some areas are there as a matter of caution, given that some areas are there as a matter of caution, given that we some areas are there as a matter of caution, given that we are some areas are there as a matter of caution, given that we are dealing caution, given that we are dealing with caution, given that we are dealing with a caution, given that we are dealing with a Delta caution, given that we are dealing with a Delta outbreak. caution, given that we are dealing with a Delta outbreak. We caution, given that we are dealing with a Delta outbreak. We cannot caution, given that we are dealing with a Delta outbreak. We cannot be with a Delta outbreak. We cannot be 100% with a Delta outbreak. We cannot be 100% certain with a Delta outbreak. We cannot be 100% certain that with a Delta outbreak. We cannot be 100% certain that we with a Delta outbreak. We cannot be 100% certain that we know with a Delta outbreak. We cannot be 100% certain that we know every 100% certain that we know every single 100% certain that we know every single contact 100% certain that we know every single contact that 100% certain that we know every single contact that was 100% certain that we know every single contact that was had 100% certain that we know every single contact that was had in 100% certain that we know every single contact that was had in this single contact that was had in this outbreak, single contact that was had in this outbreak, or single contact that was had in this outbreak, or how single contact that was had in this outbreak, or how many single contact that was had in this outbreak, or how many of single contact that was had in this outbreak, or how many of them single contact that was had in this outbreak, or how many of them may single contact that was had in this outbreak, or how many of them may be outbreak, or how many of them may be in outbreak, or how many of them may be in the outbreak, or how many of them may be in the South outbreak, or how many of them may be in the South Island. outbreak, or how many of them may be in the South Island. It outbreak, or how many of them may be in the South Island. It is outbreak, or how many of them may be in the South Island. It is better in the South Island. It is better that in the South Island. It is better that we in the South Island. It is better that we get in the South Island. It is better that we get this in the South Island. It is better that we get this right in the South Island. It is better that we get this right and in the South Island. It is better that we get this right and ensure that we get this right and ensure that that we get this right and ensure that we that we get this right and ensure that we do that we get this right and ensure that we do not that we get this right and ensure that we do not find that we get this right and ensure that we do not find a that we get this right and ensure that we do not find a positive that we get this right and ensure that we do not find a positive case that we do not find a positive case in that we do not find a positive case in the that we do not find a positive case in the South that we do not find a positive case in the South while that we do not find a positive case in the South while we're that we do not find a positive case in the South while we're at that we do not find a positive case in the South while we're at lower in the South while we're at lower alert in the South while we're at lower alert levels, in the South while we're at lower alert levels, which in the South while we're at lower alert levels, which could in the South while we're at lower alert levels, which could have alert levels, which could have devastating alert levels, which could have devastating consequences. alert levels, which could have devastating consequences. Why devastating consequences. Why wouldn't devastating consequences. Why wouldn't the devastating consequences. Why wouldn't the Government devastating consequences. Why wouldn't the Government simply wouldn't the Government simply isolate wouldn't the Government simply isolate those wouldn't the Government simply isolate those remaining wouldn't the Government simply isolate those remaining 22 wouldn't the Government simply isolate those remaining 22 people wouldn't the Government simply isolate those remaining 22 people so isolate those remaining 22 people so the isolate those remaining 22 people so the other isolate those remaining 22 people so the other million isolate those remaining 22 people so the other million South isolate those remaining 22 people so the other million South Islanders the other million South Islanders can the other million South Islanders can address the other million South Islanders can address other the other million South Islanders can address other aspects the other million South Islanders can address other aspects of the other million South Islanders can address other aspects of their can address other aspects of their wellbeing, can address other aspects of their wellbeing, such can address other aspects of their wellbeing, such as can address other aspects of their wellbeing, such as the can address other aspects of their wellbeing, such as the survival can address other aspects of their wellbeing, such as the survival of wellbeing, such as the survival of their wellbeing, such as the survival of their businesses, wellbeing, such as the survival of their businesses, their wellbeing, such as the survival of their businesses, their children's their businesses, their children's education, their businesses, their children's education, and their businesses, their children's education, and their their businesses, their children's education, and their healthcare their businesses, their children's education, and their healthcare at education, and their healthcare at lower education, and their healthcare at lower alert education, and their healthcare at lower alert levels? education, and their healthcare at lower alert levels? Mr education, and their healthcare at lower alert levels? Mr Speaker, education, and their healthcare at lower alert levels? Mr Speaker, all lower alert levels? Mr Speaker, all contacts lower alert levels? Mr Speaker, all contacts are lower alert levels? Mr Speaker, all contacts are required lower alert levels? Mr Speaker, all contacts are required to lower alert levels? Mr Speaker, all contacts are required to isolate. contacts are required to isolate. They contacts are required to isolate. They are contacts are required to isolate. They are in contacts are required to isolate. They are in isolation. contacts are required to isolate. They are in isolation. They contacts are required to isolate. They are in isolation. They have, contacts are required to isolate. They are in isolation. They have, in They are in isolation. They have, in some They are in isolation. They have, in some cases, They are in isolation. They have, in some cases, have They are in isolation. They have, in some cases, have not They are in isolation. They have, in some cases, have not yet They are in isolation. They have, in some cases, have not yet had They are in isolation. They have, in some cases, have not yet had their some cases, have not yet had their final some cases, have not yet had their final day-12 some cases, have not yet had their final day-12 tests, some cases, have not yet had their final day-12 tests, or some cases, have not yet had their final day-12 tests, or in some cases, have not yet had their final day-12 tests, or in other final day-12 tests, or in other cases final day-12 tests, or in other cases they final day-12 tests, or in other cases they are final day-12 tests, or in other cases they are not final day-12 tests, or in other cases they are not yet final day-12 tests, or in other cases they are not yet overdue final day-12 tests, or in other cases they are not yet overdue them. cases they are not yet overdue them. Mr cases they are not yet overdue them. Mr Speaker, cases they are not yet overdue them. Mr Speaker, yesterday, cases they are not yet overdue them. Mr Speaker, yesterday, if cases they are not yet overdue them. Mr Speaker, yesterday, if I cases they are not yet overdue them. Mr Speaker, yesterday, if I recall Mr Speaker, yesterday, if I recall correctly, Mr Speaker, yesterday, if I recall correctly, amongst Mr Speaker, yesterday, if I recall correctly, amongst the Mr Speaker, yesterday, if I recall correctly, amongst the numbers Mr Speaker, yesterday, if I recall correctly, amongst the numbers that correctly, amongst the numbers that we correctly, amongst the numbers that we reported correctly, amongst the numbers that we reported of correctly, amongst the numbers that we reported of those correctly, amongst the numbers that we reported of those contacts correctly, amongst the numbers that we reported of those contacts that we reported of those contacts that we we reported of those contacts that we had, we reported of those contacts that we had, roughly we reported of those contacts that we had, roughly 40% we reported of those contacts that we had, roughly 40% of we reported of those contacts that we had, roughly 40% of them we reported of those contacts that we had, roughly 40% of them were we had, roughly 40% of them were returned we had, roughly 40% of them were returned positive we had, roughly 40% of them were returned positive results we had, roughly 40% of them were returned positive results on we had, roughly 40% of them were returned positive results on their returned positive results on their day-12 returned positive results on their day-12 test. returned positive results on their day-12 test. So, returned positive results on their day-12 test. So, it returned positive results on their day-12 test. So, it does returned positive results on their day-12 test. So, it does demonstrate day-12 test. So, it does demonstrate that day-12 test. So, it does demonstrate that they day-12 test. So, it does demonstrate that they are day-12 test. So, it does demonstrate that they are important. day-12 test. So, it does demonstrate that they are important. You day-12 test. So, it does demonstrate that they are important. You then that they are important. You then need that they are important. You then need contact that they are important. You then need contact trace that they are important. You then need contact trace around that they are important. You then need contact trace around those need contact trace around those individuals need contact trace around those individuals and need contact trace around those individuals and ensure need contact trace around those individuals and ensure that need contact trace around those individuals and ensure that if need contact trace around those individuals and ensure that if they individuals and ensure that if they have individuals and ensure that if they have exposure individuals and ensure that if they have exposure events individuals and ensure that if they have exposure events that individuals and ensure that if they have exposure events that there have exposure events that there aren't have exposure events that there aren't knock-on have exposure events that there aren't knock-on cases. have exposure events that there aren't knock-on cases. So, have exposure events that there aren't knock-on cases. So, even aren't knock-on cases. So, even though aren't knock-on cases. So, even though they're aren't knock-on cases. So, even though they're isolated, aren't knock-on cases. So, even though they're isolated, caution though they're isolated, caution would though they're isolated, caution would still though they're isolated, caution would still suggest though they're isolated, caution would still suggest keeping though they're isolated, caution would still suggest keeping the would still suggest keeping the alert would still suggest keeping the alert levels would still suggest keeping the alert levels where would still suggest keeping the alert levels where they would still suggest keeping the alert levels where they are, would still suggest keeping the alert levels where they are, not alert levels where they are, not only alert levels where they are, not only until alert levels where they are, not only until we alert levels where they are, not only until we get alert levels where they are, not only until we get through alert levels where they are, not only until we get through that only until we get through that period only until we get through that period but only until we get through that period but also only until we get through that period but also because only until we get through that period but also because we only until we get through that period but also because we cannot only until we get through that period but also because we cannot be period but also because we cannot be 100% period but also because we cannot be 100% certain period but also because we cannot be 100% certain we period but also because we cannot be 100% certain we have period but also because we cannot be 100% certain we have every period but also because we cannot be 100% certain we have every known 100% certain we have every known contact. 100% certain we have every known contact. Did 100% certain we have every known contact. Did the 100% certain we have every known contact. Did the PM 100% certain we have every known contact. Did the PM understand 100% certain we have every known contact. Did the PM understand it contact. Did the PM understand it would contact. Did the PM understand it would take contact. Did the PM understand it would take three contact. Did the PM understand it would take three weeks contact. Did the PM understand it would take three weeks to contact. Did the PM understand it would take three weeks to be contact. Did the PM understand it would take three weeks to be sure would take three weeks to be sure there would take three weeks to be sure there were would take three weeks to be sure there were no would take three weeks to be sure there were no cases would take three weeks to be sure there were no cases in would take three weeks to be sure there were no cases in the would take three weeks to be sure there were no cases in the South there were no cases in the South Island there were no cases in the South Island when there were no cases in the South Island when she there were no cases in the South Island when she first there were no cases in the South Island when she first announced there were no cases in the South Island when she first announced a Island when she first announced a short, Island when she first announced a short, sharp Island when she first announced a short, sharp lockdown? Island when she first announced a short, sharp lockdown? And Island when she first announced a short, sharp lockdown? And if Island when she first announced a short, sharp lockdown? And if she short, sharp lockdown? And if she did, short, sharp lockdown? And if she did, why short, sharp lockdown? And if she did, why didn't short, sharp lockdown? And if she did, why didn't she short, sharp lockdown? And if she did, why didn't she say short, sharp lockdown? And if she did, why didn't she say so short, sharp lockdown? And if she did, why didn't she say so at short, sharp lockdown? And if she did, why didn't she say so at the did, why didn't she say so at the time? did, why didn't she say so at the time? When did, why didn't she say so at the time? When we did, why didn't she say so at the time? When we discovered did, why didn't she say so at the time? When we discovered case did, why didn't she say so at the time? When we discovered case A, did, why didn't she say so at the time? When we discovered case A, we time? When we discovered case A, we did time? When we discovered case A, we did not time? When we discovered case A, we did not know time? When we discovered case A, we did not know at time? When we discovered case A, we did not know at what time? When we discovered case A, we did not know at what point time? When we discovered case A, we did not know at what point that did not know at what point that person did not know at what point that person was did not know at what point that person was infected did not know at what point that person was infected or, did not know at what point that person was infected or, indeed, did not know at what point that person was infected or, indeed, if person was infected or, indeed, if they person was infected or, indeed, if they were person was infected or, indeed, if they were at person was infected or, indeed, if they were at the person was infected or, indeed, if they were at the beginning person was infected or, indeed, if they were at the beginning of person was infected or, indeed, if they were at the beginning of the they were at the beginning of the chain. they were at the beginning of the chain. We've they were at the beginning of the chain. We've since they were at the beginning of the chain. We've since discovered they were at the beginning of the chain. We've since discovered that chain. We've since discovered that Delta chain. We've since discovered that Delta was chain. We've since discovered that Delta was effectively chain. We've since discovered that Delta was effectively in chain. We've since discovered that Delta was effectively in our Delta was effectively in our community Delta was effectively in our community for Delta was effectively in our community for more Delta was effectively in our community for more than Delta was effectively in our community for more than a Delta was effectively in our community for more than a week. Delta was effectively in our community for more than a week. And community for more than a week. And unlike community for more than a week. And unlike the community for more than a week. And unlike the August community for more than a week. And unlike the August outbreak, community for more than a week. And unlike the August outbreak, where community for more than a week. And unlike the August outbreak, where we unlike the August outbreak, where we saw unlike the August outbreak, where we saw potentially unlike the August outbreak, where we saw potentially an unlike the August outbreak, where we saw potentially an outbreak unlike the August outbreak, where we saw potentially an outbreak that unlike the August outbreak, where we saw potentially an outbreak that had saw potentially an outbreak that had been saw potentially an outbreak that had been in saw potentially an outbreak that had been in the saw potentially an outbreak that had been in the community saw potentially an outbreak that had been in the community for saw potentially an outbreak that had been in the community for possibly been in the community for possibly three been in the community for possibly three weeks, been in the community for possibly three weeks, Delta been in the community for possibly three weeks, Delta got been in the community for possibly three weeks, Delta got a been in the community for possibly three weeks, Delta got a head been in the community for possibly three weeks, Delta got a head start three weeks, Delta got a head start that three weeks, Delta got a head start that had three weeks, Delta got a head start that had a three weeks, Delta got a head start that had a far three weeks, Delta got a head start that had a far more three weeks, Delta got a head start that had a far more devastating that had a far more devastating effect. that had a far more devastating effect. We've that had a far more devastating effect. We've since that had a far more devastating effect. We've since modelled that had a far more devastating effect. We've since modelled that that had a far more devastating effect. We've since modelled that we effect. We've since modelled that we could effect. We've since modelled that we could have effect. We've since modelled that we could have had effect. We've since modelled that we could have had this effect. We've since modelled that we could have had this week effect. We've since modelled that we could have had this week upwards effect. We've since modelled that we could have had this week upwards of could have had this week upwards of 500 could have had this week upwards of 500 cases could have had this week upwards of 500 cases a could have had this week upwards of 500 cases a day could have had this week upwards of 500 cases a day had could have had this week upwards of 500 cases a day had we could have had this week upwards of 500 cases a day had we not could have had this week upwards of 500 cases a day had we not locked 500 cases a day had we not locked down. 500 cases a day had we not locked down. So, 500 cases a day had we not locked down. So, Mr 500 cases a day had we not locked down. So, Mr Speaker, 500 cases a day had we not locked down. So, Mr Speaker, we 500 cases a day had we not locked down. So, Mr Speaker, we went 500 cases a day had we not locked down. So, Mr Speaker, we went short down. So, Mr Speaker, we went short and down. So, Mr Speaker, we went short and sharp down. So, Mr Speaker, we went short and sharp while down. So, Mr Speaker, we went short and sharp while we down. So, Mr Speaker, we went short and sharp while we identified and sharp while we identified information, and sharp while we identified information, and and sharp while we identified information, and since and sharp while we identified information, and since then information, and since then identified information, and since then identified information information, and since then identified information that information, and since then identified information that Delta identified information that Delta did identified information that Delta did have identified information that Delta did have a identified information that Delta did have a big identified information that Delta did have a big head identified information that Delta did have a big head start identified information that Delta did have a big head start on identified information that Delta did have a big head start on us, identified information that Delta did have a big head start on us, and did have a big head start on us, and that did have a big head start on us, and that we did have a big head start on us, and that we needed did have a big head start on us, and that we needed to did have a big head start on us, and that we needed to be did have a big head start on us, and that we needed to be careful. did have a big head start on us, and that we needed to be careful. How that we needed to be careful. How long that we needed to be careful. How long does that we needed to be careful. How long does the that we needed to be careful. How long does the PM that we needed to be careful. How long does the PM believe that we needed to be careful. How long does the PM believe it that we needed to be careful. How long does the PM believe it is long does the PM believe it is sustainable long does the PM believe it is sustainable to long does the PM believe it is sustainable to maintain long does the PM believe it is sustainable to maintain its long does the PM believe it is sustainable to maintain its current sustainable to maintain its current strategy sustainable to maintain its current strategy if sustainable to maintain its current strategy if a sustainable to maintain its current strategy if a single sustainable to maintain its current strategy if a single initial sustainable to maintain its current strategy if a single initial case strategy if a single initial case can strategy if a single initial case can lead strategy if a single initial case can lead to strategy if a single initial case can lead to lockdowns strategy if a single initial case can lead to lockdowns that strategy if a single initial case can lead to lockdowns that take can lead to lockdowns that take weeks can lead to lockdowns that take weeks and can lead to lockdowns that take weeks and weeks can lead to lockdowns that take weeks and weeks and can lead to lockdowns that take weeks and weeks and weeks can lead to lockdowns that take weeks and weeks and weeks before can lead to lockdowns that take weeks and weeks and weeks before the weeks and weeks and weeks before the Government weeks and weeks and weeks before the Government has weeks and weeks and weeks before the Government has any weeks and weeks and weeks before the Government has any confidence weeks and weeks and weeks before the Government has any confidence about Government has any confidence about lifting Government has any confidence about lifting them? Government has any confidence about lifting them? I'm Government has any confidence about lifting them? I'm going Government has any confidence about lifting them? I'm going to Government has any confidence about lifting them? I'm going to start Government has any confidence about lifting them? I'm going to start by lifting them? I'm going to start by correcting lifting them? I'm going to start by correcting the lifting them? I'm going to start by correcting the member. lifting them? I'm going to start by correcting the member. That lifting them? I'm going to start by correcting the member. That single correcting the member. That single initial correcting the member. That single initial case correcting the member. That single initial case had correcting the member. That single initial case had hundreds correcting the member. That single initial case had hundreds of correcting the member. That single initial case had hundreds of cases initial case had hundreds of cases around initial case had hundreds of cases around it. initial case had hundreds of cases around it. It's initial case had hundreds of cases around it. It's simply initial case had hundreds of cases around it. It's simply not initial case had hundreds of cases around it. It's simply not correct around it. It's simply not correct to around it. It's simply not correct to assume around it. It's simply not correct to assume that around it. It's simply not correct to assume that we around it. It's simply not correct to assume that we had around it. It's simply not correct to assume that we had one around it. It's simply not correct to assume that we had one case around it. It's simply not correct to assume that we had one case here to assume that we had one case here and to assume that we had one case here and that, to assume that we had one case here and that, Mr to assume that we had one case here and that, Mr Speaker, to assume that we had one case here and that, Mr Speaker, that and that, Mr Speaker, that everything and that, Mr Speaker, that everything that's and that, Mr Speaker, that everything that's been and that, Mr Speaker, that everything that's been done and that, Mr Speaker, that everything that's been done was everything that's been done was because everything that's been done was because of everything that's been done was because of one everything that's been done was because of one case. everything that's been done was because of one case. We everything that's been done was because of one case. We literally because of one case. We literally had because of one case. We literally had hundreds. because of one case. We literally had hundreds. And because of one case. We literally had hundreds. And you because of one case. We literally had hundreds. And you can because of one case. We literally had hundreds. And you can see because of one case. We literally had hundreds. And you can see in because of one case. We literally had hundreds. And you can see in the had hundreds. And you can see in the outbreak had hundreds. And you can see in the outbreak now, had hundreds. And you can see in the outbreak now, we're had hundreds. And you can see in the outbreak now, we're working had hundreds. And you can see in the outbreak now, we're working very outbreak now, we're working very hard outbreak now, we're working very hard to outbreak now, we're working very hard to ensure outbreak now, we're working very hard to ensure that outbreak now, we're working very hard to ensure that that outbreak now, we're working very hard to ensure that that doesn't hard to ensure that that doesn't have hard to ensure that that doesn't have a hard to ensure that that doesn't have a negative hard to ensure that that doesn't have a negative effect hard to ensure that that doesn't have a negative effect on hard to ensure that that doesn't have a negative effect on people hard to ensure that that doesn't have a negative effect on people in have a negative effect on people in the have a negative effect on people in the South have a negative effect on people in the South Island. have a negative effect on people in the South Island. Mr have a negative effect on people in the South Island. Mr Speaker, have a negative effect on people in the South Island. Mr Speaker, I the South Island. Mr Speaker, I would the South Island. Mr Speaker, I would actually the South Island. Mr Speaker, I would actually just the South Island. Mr Speaker, I would actually just finish the South Island. Mr Speaker, I would actually just finish by would actually just finish by reflecting would actually just finish by reflecting on would actually just finish by reflecting on the would actually just finish by reflecting on the comments would actually just finish by reflecting on the comments made would actually just finish by reflecting on the comments made by would actually just finish by reflecting on the comments made by a reflecting on the comments made by a business reflecting on the comments made by a business owner reflecting on the comments made by a business owner in reflecting on the comments made by a business owner in the reflecting on the comments made by a business owner in the South reflecting on the comments made by a business owner in the South Island, business owner in the South Island, who business owner in the South Island, who says, business owner in the South Island, who says, "There's business owner in the South Island, who says, "There's a business owner in the South Island, who says, "There's a whole business owner in the South Island, who says, "There's a whole lot business owner in the South Island, who says, "There's a whole lot of who says, "There's a whole lot of risk who says, "There's a whole lot of risk involved who says, "There's a whole lot of risk involved with who says, "There's a whole lot of risk involved with us who says, "There's a whole lot of risk involved with us as who says, "There's a whole lot of risk involved with us as well who says, "There's a whole lot of risk involved with us as well under risk involved with us as well under level risk involved with us as well under level 2. risk involved with us as well under level 2. We've risk involved with us as well under level 2. We've got risk involved with us as well under level 2. We've got people risk involved with us as well under level 2. We've got people coming risk involved with us as well under level 2. We've got people coming in level 2. We've got people coming in our level 2. We've got people coming in our doors, level 2. We've got people coming in our doors, so level 2. We've got people coming in our doors, so you level 2. We've got people coming in our doors, so you know level 2. We've got people coming in our doors, so you know the level 2. We've got people coming in our doors, so you know the risk level 2. We've got people coming in our doors, so you know the risk of our doors, so you know the risk of us our doors, so you know the risk of us getting our doors, so you know the risk of us getting a our doors, so you know the risk of us getting a case our doors, so you know the risk of us getting a case on our doors, so you know the risk of us getting a case on site our doors, so you know the risk of us getting a case on site and us getting a case on site and getting us getting a case on site and getting shut us getting a case on site and getting shut down us getting a case on site and getting shut down for us getting a case on site and getting shut down for a us getting a case on site and getting shut down for a prolonged getting shut down for a prolonged period getting shut down for a prolonged period of getting shut down for a prolonged period of time getting shut down for a prolonged period of time is getting shut down for a prolonged period of time is quite getting shut down for a prolonged period of time is quite significant period of time is quite significant to period of time is quite significant to us. period of time is quite significant to us. I period of time is quite significant to us. I think period of time is quite significant to us. I think Delta period of time is quite significant to us. I think Delta changes period of time is quite significant to us. I think Delta changes things to us. I think Delta changes things a to us. I think Delta changes things a little to us. I think Delta changes things a little bit to us. I think Delta changes things a little bit and to us. I think Delta changes things a little bit and I'm to us. I think Delta changes things a little bit and I'm definitely a little bit and I'm definitely supportive a little bit and I'm definitely supportive of a little bit and I'm definitely supportive of a a little bit and I'm definitely supportive of a more a little bit and I'm definitely supportive of a more cautious supportive of a more cautious approach." supportive of a more cautious approach." Question supportive of a more cautious approach." Question No. supportive of a more cautious approach." Question No. 2. supportive of a more cautious approach." Question No. 2. The supportive of a more cautious approach." Question No. 2. The Hon approach." Question No. 2. The Hon Judith approach." Question No. 2. The Hon Judith Collins. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: Minister: What Minister: What did Minister: What did she Minister: What did she mean What did she mean yesterday What did she mean yesterday when What did she mean yesterday when she What did she mean yesterday when she said, yesterday when she said, "When yesterday when she said, "When the yesterday when she said, "When the outbreak yesterday when she said, "When the outbreak started, "When the outbreak started, we "When the outbreak started, we saw, "When the outbreak started, we saw, of "When the outbreak started, we saw, of course, "When the outbreak started, we saw, of course, as "When the outbreak started, we saw, of course, as you "When the outbreak started, we saw, of course, as you may we saw, of course, as you may expect, we saw, of course, as you may expect, some we saw, of course, as you may expect, some demand we saw, of course, as you may expect, some demand lift", expect, some demand lift", and expect, some demand lift", and does expect, some demand lift", and does she expect, some demand lift", and does she accept expect, some demand lift", and does she accept that expect, some demand lift", and does she accept that prior and does she accept that prior to and does she accept that prior to the and does she accept that prior to the current and does she accept that prior to the current outbreak, to the current outbreak, eligible to the current outbreak, eligible people to the current outbreak, eligible people wanted to the current outbreak, eligible people wanted to to the current outbreak, eligible people wanted to get eligible people wanted to get vaccines vaccines but vaccines but were vaccines but were not vaccines but were not able but were not able to but were not able to secure but were not able to secure appointments? Yes, Yes, I Yes, I stand Yes, I stand by Yes, I stand by what Yes, I stand by what I Yes, I stand by what I said. Yes, I stand by what I said. And, Yes, I stand by what I said. And, no, Yes, I stand by what I said. And, no, I Yes, I stand by what I said. And, no, I do Yes, I stand by what I said. And, no, I do not Yes, I stand by what I said. And, no, I do not accept Yes, I stand by what I said. And, no, I do not accept the Yes, I stand by what I said. And, no, I do not accept the member's no, I do not accept the member's assertion. no, I do not accept the member's assertion. Why no, I do not accept the member's assertion. Why did no, I do not accept the member's assertion. Why did it no, I do not accept the member's assertion. Why did it take no, I do not accept the member's assertion. Why did it take an assertion. Why did it take an outbreak assertion. Why did it take an outbreak to assertion. Why did it take an outbreak to try assertion. Why did it take an outbreak to try and assertion. Why did it take an outbreak to try and speed assertion. Why did it take an outbreak to try and speed up assertion. Why did it take an outbreak to try and speed up vaccine outbreak to try and speed up vaccine orders outbreak to try and speed up vaccine orders when, outbreak to try and speed up vaccine orders when, in outbreak to try and speed up vaccine orders when, in July, outbreak to try and speed up vaccine orders when, in July, Stuff outbreak to try and speed up vaccine orders when, in July, Stuff reported orders when, in July, Stuff reported that orders when, in July, Stuff reported that over orders when, in July, Stuff reported that over 37,000 orders when, in July, Stuff reported that over 37,000 group-3 orders when, in July, Stuff reported that over 37,000 group-3 eligible that over 37,000 group-3 eligible people that over 37,000 group-3 eligible people called that over 37,000 group-3 eligible people called a that over 37,000 group-3 eligible people called a vaccine that over 37,000 group-3 eligible people called a vaccine hotline that over 37,000 group-3 eligible people called a vaccine hotline due people called a vaccine hotline due to people called a vaccine hotline due to being people called a vaccine hotline due to being unable people called a vaccine hotline due to being unable to people called a vaccine hotline due to being unable to secure people called a vaccine hotline due to being unable to secure a people called a vaccine hotline due to being unable to secure a booking to being unable to secure a booking for to being unable to secure a booking for a to being unable to secure a booking for a COVID-19 to being unable to secure a booking for a COVID-19 vaccine? to being unable to secure a booking for a COVID-19 vaccine? The to being unable to secure a booking for a COVID-19 vaccine? The biggest for a COVID-19 vaccine? The biggest constraint for a COVID-19 vaccine? The biggest constraint - for a COVID-19 vaccine? The biggest constraint - in for a COVID-19 vaccine? The biggest constraint - in fact, for a COVID-19 vaccine? The biggest constraint - in fact, the for a COVID-19 vaccine? The biggest constraint - in fact, the only constraint - in fact, the only constraint constraint - in fact, the only constraint - constraint - in fact, the only constraint - we constraint - in fact, the only constraint - we have constraint - in fact, the only constraint - we have faced constraint - in fact, the only constraint - we have faced is constraint - we have faced is supply, constraint - we have faced is supply, is constraint - we have faced is supply, is the constraint - we have faced is supply, is the delivery constraint - we have faced is supply, is the delivery of constraint - we have faced is supply, is the delivery of the supply, is the delivery of the contracted supply, is the delivery of the contracted doses supply, is the delivery of the contracted doses we supply, is the delivery of the contracted doses we have supply, is the delivery of the contracted doses we have with contracted doses we have with Pfizer. contracted doses we have with Pfizer. Those contracted doses we have with Pfizer. Those doses contracted doses we have with Pfizer. Those doses being contracted doses we have with Pfizer. Those doses being delivered Pfizer. Those doses being delivered into Pfizer. Those doses being delivered into New Pfizer. Those doses being delivered into New Zealand. Pfizer. Those doses being delivered into New Zealand. So, Pfizer. Those doses being delivered into New Zealand. So, whilst Pfizer. Those doses being delivered into New Zealand. So, whilst we Pfizer. Those doses being delivered into New Zealand. So, whilst we get into New Zealand. So, whilst we get basically into New Zealand. So, whilst we get basically a into New Zealand. So, whilst we get basically a 4-weekly into New Zealand. So, whilst we get basically a 4-weekly heads-up into New Zealand. So, whilst we get basically a 4-weekly heads-up on basically a 4-weekly heads-up on what basically a 4-weekly heads-up on what we basically a 4-weekly heads-up on what we can basically a 4-weekly heads-up on what we can expect, basically a 4-weekly heads-up on what we can expect, we're basically a 4-weekly heads-up on what we can expect, we're told what we can expect, we're told across what we can expect, we're told across a what we can expect, we're told across a quarter what we can expect, we're told across a quarter what what we can expect, we're told across a quarter what we what we can expect, we're told across a quarter what we can what we can expect, we're told across a quarter what we can expect, across a quarter what we can expect, and across a quarter what we can expect, and the across a quarter what we can expect, and the constraint across a quarter what we can expect, and the constraint has across a quarter what we can expect, and the constraint has been across a quarter what we can expect, and the constraint has been delivery and the constraint has been delivery by and the constraint has been delivery by the and the constraint has been delivery by the pharmaceutical and the constraint has been delivery by the pharmaceutical company and the constraint has been delivery by the pharmaceutical company whom by the pharmaceutical company whom we by the pharmaceutical company whom we contracted by the pharmaceutical company whom we contracted and by the pharmaceutical company whom we contracted and began by the pharmaceutical company whom we contracted and began negotiations we contracted and began negotiations with we contracted and began negotiations with before we contracted and began negotiations with before they we contracted and began negotiations with before they even we contracted and began negotiations with before they even finished we contracted and began negotiations with before they even finished their with before they even finished their clinical with before they even finished their clinical trials. with before they even finished their clinical trials. Well, with before they even finished their clinical trials. Well, if with before they even finished their clinical trials. Well, if Pfizer with before they even finished their clinical trials. Well, if Pfizer is clinical trials. Well, if Pfizer is the clinical trials. Well, if Pfizer is the excuse, clinical trials. Well, if Pfizer is the excuse, can clinical trials. Well, if Pfizer is the excuse, can she clinical trials. Well, if Pfizer is the excuse, can she explain clinical trials. Well, if Pfizer is the excuse, can she explain how the excuse, can she explain how Canada, the excuse, can she explain how Canada, Israel the excuse, can she explain how Canada, Israel and the excuse, can she explain how Canada, Israel and Germany the excuse, can she explain how Canada, Israel and Germany can the excuse, can she explain how Canada, Israel and Germany can all Canada, Israel and Germany can all run Canada, Israel and Germany can all run a Canada, Israel and Germany can all run a Pfizer-focused Canada, Israel and Germany can all run a Pfizer-focused strategy Canada, Israel and Germany can all run a Pfizer-focused strategy and run a Pfizer-focused strategy and actually run a Pfizer-focused strategy and actually double run a Pfizer-focused strategy and actually double the run a Pfizer-focused strategy and actually double the vaccination actually double the vaccination rates actually double the vaccination rates that actually double the vaccination rates that we actually double the vaccination rates that we have? actually double the vaccination rates that we have? Per actually double the vaccination rates that we have? Per capita, actually double the vaccination rates that we have? Per capita, we rates that we have? Per capita, we are rates that we have? Per capita, we are beating rates that we have? Per capita, we are beating them rates that we have? Per capita, we are beating them on rates that we have? Per capita, we are beating them on peak rates that we have? Per capita, we are beating them on peak doses rates that we have? Per capita, we are beating them on peak doses by are beating them on peak doses by some are beating them on peak doses by some margin are beating them on peak doses by some margin with are beating them on peak doses by some margin with the are beating them on peak doses by some margin with the delivery are beating them on peak doses by some margin with the delivery we are beating them on peak doses by some margin with the delivery we are some margin with the delivery we are going some margin with the delivery we are going through. some margin with the delivery we are going through. The some margin with the delivery we are going through. The second some margin with the delivery we are going through. The second point some margin with the delivery we are going through. The second point I going through. The second point I would going through. The second point I would make going through. The second point I would make is going through. The second point I would make is they going through. The second point I would make is they still going through. The second point I would make is they still have would make is they still have restrictions would make is they still have restrictions in would make is they still have restrictions in place would make is they still have restrictions in place because would make is they still have restrictions in place because they restrictions in place because they still restrictions in place because they still have restrictions in place because they still have outbreaks, restrictions in place because they still have outbreaks, despite restrictions in place because they still have outbreaks, despite having still have outbreaks, despite having started still have outbreaks, despite having started their still have outbreaks, despite having started their vaccine still have outbreaks, despite having started their vaccine rollout started their vaccine rollout sooner. started their vaccine rollout sooner. I started their vaccine rollout sooner. I would started their vaccine rollout sooner. I would also started their vaccine rollout sooner. I would also point started their vaccine rollout sooner. I would also point out started their vaccine rollout sooner. I would also point out we sooner. I would also point out we have sooner. I would also point out we have lower sooner. I would also point out we have lower case sooner. I would also point out we have lower case rates, sooner. I would also point out we have lower case rates, lower sooner. I would also point out we have lower case rates, lower death have lower case rates, lower death rates, have lower case rates, lower death rates, lower have lower case rates, lower death rates, lower levels have lower case rates, lower death rates, lower levels of have lower case rates, lower death rates, lower levels of restrictions. rates, lower levels of restrictions. All rates, lower levels of restrictions. All of rates, lower levels of restrictions. All of that, rates, lower levels of restrictions. All of that, for rates, lower levels of restrictions. All of that, for me, rates, lower levels of restrictions. All of that, for me, is rates, lower levels of restrictions. All of that, for me, is a rates, lower levels of restrictions. All of that, for me, is a measure rates, lower levels of restrictions. All of that, for me, is a measure of All of that, for me, is a measure of success, All of that, for me, is a measure of success, a All of that, for me, is a measure of success, a measure All of that, for me, is a measure of success, a measure of All of that, for me, is a measure of success, a measure of success All of that, for me, is a measure of success, a measure of success on success, a measure of success on whether success, a measure of success on whether or success, a measure of success on whether or not success, a measure of success on whether or not your success, a measure of success on whether or not your relative whether or not your relative strategy whether or not your relative strategy for whether or not your relative strategy for COVID, whether or not your relative strategy for COVID, of whether or not your relative strategy for COVID, of which whether or not your relative strategy for COVID, of which there strategy for COVID, of which there is strategy for COVID, of which there is no strategy for COVID, of which there is no costless strategy for COVID, of which there is no costless response, strategy for COVID, of which there is no costless response, whether strategy for COVID, of which there is no costless response, whether or is no costless response, whether or not is no costless response, whether or not you've is no costless response, whether or not you've adopted is no costless response, whether or not you've adopted the is no costless response, whether or not you've adopted the right not you've adopted the right strategy not you've adopted the right strategy for not you've adopted the right strategy for your not you've adopted the right strategy for your country. not you've adopted the right strategy for your country. On strategy for your country. On vaccination strategy for your country. On vaccination programmes, strategy for your country. On vaccination programmes, those vaccination programmes, those countries, vaccination programmes, those countries, of vaccination programmes, those countries, of course, vaccination programmes, those countries, of course, they vaccination programmes, those countries, of course, they all vaccination programmes, those countries, of course, they all have countries, of course, they all have multiple countries, of course, they all have multiple vaccines. countries, of course, they all have multiple vaccines. We countries, of course, they all have multiple vaccines. We decided countries, of course, they all have multiple vaccines. We decided to multiple vaccines. We decided to deliver multiple vaccines. We decided to deliver Pfizer. multiple vaccines. We decided to deliver Pfizer. And multiple vaccines. We decided to deliver Pfizer. And in multiple vaccines. We decided to deliver Pfizer. And in some multiple vaccines. We decided to deliver Pfizer. And in some cases, deliver Pfizer. And in some cases, they deliver Pfizer. And in some cases, they use deliver Pfizer. And in some cases, they use emergency deliver Pfizer. And in some cases, they use emergency approvals deliver Pfizer. And in some cases, they use emergency approvals rather they use emergency approvals rather than they use emergency approvals rather than going they use emergency approvals rather than going through they use emergency approvals rather than going through a they use emergency approvals rather than going through a full they use emergency approvals rather than going through a full approval than going through a full approval process, than going through a full approval process, as than going through a full approval process, as we than going through a full approval process, as we did. than going through a full approval process, as we did. Did than going through a full approval process, as we did. Did New than going through a full approval process, as we did. Did New Zealand process, as we did. Did New Zealand have process, as we did. Did New Zealand have sufficient process, as we did. Did New Zealand have sufficient vaccine process, as we did. Did New Zealand have sufficient vaccine supply process, as we did. Did New Zealand have sufficient vaccine supply in have sufficient vaccine supply in June, have sufficient vaccine supply in June, when have sufficient vaccine supply in June, when a have sufficient vaccine supply in June, when a coast have sufficient vaccine supply in June, when a coast man have sufficient vaccine supply in June, when a coast man in have sufficient vaccine supply in June, when a coast man in his have sufficient vaccine supply in June, when a coast man in his 80s June, when a coast man in his 80s told June, when a coast man in his 80s told Radio June, when a coast man in his 80s told Radio New June, when a coast man in his 80s told Radio New Zealand June, when a coast man in his 80s told Radio New Zealand he June, when a coast man in his 80s told Radio New Zealand he was told Radio New Zealand he was eligible told Radio New Zealand he was eligible and told Radio New Zealand he was eligible and wanted told Radio New Zealand he was eligible and wanted to told Radio New Zealand he was eligible and wanted to get told Radio New Zealand he was eligible and wanted to get a told Radio New Zealand he was eligible and wanted to get a vaccine eligible and wanted to get a vaccine but eligible and wanted to get a vaccine but was eligible and wanted to get a vaccine but was told eligible and wanted to get a vaccine but was told by eligible and wanted to get a vaccine but was told by his eligible and wanted to get a vaccine but was told by his DHB eligible and wanted to get a vaccine but was told by his DHB a eligible and wanted to get a vaccine but was told by his DHB a vaccine but was told by his DHB a vaccine appointment but was told by his DHB a vaccine appointment was but was told by his DHB a vaccine appointment was not but was told by his DHB a vaccine appointment was not then but was told by his DHB a vaccine appointment was not then available? appointment was not then available? What appointment was not then available? What I appointment was not then available? What I can appointment was not then available? What I can tell appointment was not then available? What I can tell you appointment was not then available? What I can tell you is appointment was not then available? What I can tell you is that appointment was not then available? What I can tell you is that the appointment was not then available? What I can tell you is that the date What I can tell you is that the date that What I can tell you is that the date that we What I can tell you is that the date that we were What I can tell you is that the date that we were releasing What I can tell you is that the date that we were releasing cohort that we were releasing cohort invitations that we were releasing cohort invitations - that we were releasing cohort invitations - for that we were releasing cohort invitations - for instance, that we were releasing cohort invitations - for instance, for that we were releasing cohort invitations - for instance, for the invitations - for instance, for the 60 invitations - for instance, for the 60 to invitations - for instance, for the 60 to 64-year-olds, invitations - for instance, for the 60 to 64-year-olds, 70,000 invitations - for instance, for the 60 to 64-year-olds, 70,000 bookings 60 to 64-year-olds, 70,000 bookings were 60 to 64-year-olds, 70,000 bookings were made 60 to 64-year-olds, 70,000 bookings were made at 60 to 64-year-olds, 70,000 bookings were made at the 60 to 64-year-olds, 70,000 bookings were made at the time. 60 to 64-year-olds, 70,000 bookings were made at the time. For 60 to 64-year-olds, 70,000 bookings were made at the time. For the 60 to 64-year-olds, 70,000 bookings were made at the time. For the next were made at the time. For the next cohort, were made at the time. For the next cohort, another were made at the time. For the next cohort, another 70,000. were made at the time. For the next cohort, another 70,000. For were made at the time. For the next cohort, another 70,000. For the cohort, another 70,000. For the 50-55-year-olds, cohort, another 70,000. For the 50-55-year-olds, bookings cohort, another 70,000. For the 50-55-year-olds, bookings were cohort, another 70,000. For the 50-55-year-olds, bookings were made. 50-55-year-olds, bookings were made. 137,000 50-55-year-olds, bookings were made. 137,000 bookings 50-55-year-olds, bookings were made. 137,000 bookings on 50-55-year-olds, bookings were made. 137,000 bookings on day 50-55-year-olds, bookings were made. 137,000 bookings on day one. 50-55-year-olds, bookings were made. 137,000 bookings on day one. In 137,000 bookings on day one. In fact, 137,000 bookings on day one. In fact, for 137,000 bookings on day one. In fact, for 1 137,000 bookings on day one. In fact, for 1 September, 137,000 bookings on day one. In fact, for 1 September, we 137,000 bookings on day one. In fact, for 1 September, we had fact, for 1 September, we had 196,000 fact, for 1 September, we had 196,000 bookings fact, for 1 September, we had 196,000 bookings made fact, for 1 September, we had 196,000 bookings made on fact, for 1 September, we had 196,000 bookings made on Day fact, for 1 September, we had 196,000 bookings made on Day 1. fact, for 1 September, we had 196,000 bookings made on Day 1. So, 196,000 bookings made on Day 1. So, those 196,000 bookings made on Day 1. So, those bookings 196,000 bookings made on Day 1. So, those bookings have 196,000 bookings made on Day 1. So, those bookings have been 196,000 bookings made on Day 1. So, those bookings have been available, those bookings have been available, not those bookings have been available, not necessarily those bookings have been available, not necessarily on those bookings have been available, not necessarily on the those bookings have been available, not necessarily on the precise those bookings have been available, not necessarily on the precise day not necessarily on the precise day someone not necessarily on the precise day someone has not necessarily on the precise day someone has wanted. not necessarily on the precise day someone has wanted. But not necessarily on the precise day someone has wanted. But they not necessarily on the precise day someone has wanted. But they have someone has wanted. But they have been someone has wanted. But they have been available. someone has wanted. But they have been available. What someone has wanted. But they have been available. What we've someone has wanted. But they have been available. What we've also someone has wanted. But they have been available. What we've also done been available. What we've also done is been available. What we've also done is increase been available. What we've also done is increase the been available. What we've also done is increase the providers been available. What we've also done is increase the providers that been available. What we've also done is increase the providers that are is increase the providers that are available is increase the providers that are available as is increase the providers that are available as we've is increase the providers that are available as we've rolled is increase the providers that are available as we've rolled out is increase the providers that are available as we've rolled out as available as we've rolled out as well. available as we've rolled out as well. And available as we've rolled out as well. And so available as we've rolled out as well. And so in available as we've rolled out as well. And so in the available as we've rolled out as well. And so in the beginning, available as we've rolled out as well. And so in the beginning, we well. And so in the beginning, we had well. And so in the beginning, we had a well. And so in the beginning, we had a booking well. And so in the beginning, we had a booking system well. And so in the beginning, we had a booking system that well. And so in the beginning, we had a booking system that didn't had a booking system that didn't necessarily had a booking system that didn't necessarily consolidate had a booking system that didn't necessarily consolidate all had a booking system that didn't necessarily consolidate all of had a booking system that didn't necessarily consolidate all of those necessarily consolidate all of those providers, necessarily consolidate all of those providers, so necessarily consolidate all of those providers, so that's necessarily consolidate all of those providers, so that's where necessarily consolidate all of those providers, so that's where you necessarily consolidate all of those providers, so that's where you did providers, so that's where you did see providers, so that's where you did see some providers, so that's where you did see some examples providers, so that's where you did see some examples of providers, so that's where you did see some examples of people providers, so that's where you did see some examples of people who providers, so that's where you did see some examples of people who may see some examples of people who may not see some examples of people who may not have see some examples of people who may not have been see some examples of people who may not have been able see some examples of people who may not have been able to see some examples of people who may not have been able to access see some examples of people who may not have been able to access a see some examples of people who may not have been able to access a local not have been able to access a local booking not have been able to access a local booking in not have been able to access a local booking in a not have been able to access a local booking in a timely not have been able to access a local booking in a timely way not have been able to access a local booking in a timely way because not have been able to access a local booking in a timely way because they booking in a timely way because they didn't booking in a timely way because they didn't necessarily booking in a timely way because they didn't necessarily have booking in a timely way because they didn't necessarily have access booking in a timely way because they didn't necessarily have access to didn't necessarily have access to all didn't necessarily have access to all of didn't necessarily have access to all of the didn't necessarily have access to all of the capacity didn't necessarily have access to all of the capacity across didn't necessarily have access to all of the capacity across the didn't necessarily have access to all of the capacity across the area. all of the capacity across the area. But all of the capacity across the area. But we've all of the capacity across the area. But we've now all of the capacity across the area. But we've now consolidated all of the capacity across the area. But we've now consolidated that. But we've now consolidated that. We've But we've now consolidated that. We've got But we've now consolidated that. We've got a But we've now consolidated that. We've got a single But we've now consolidated that. We've got a single place But we've now consolidated that. We've got a single place where But we've now consolidated that. We've got a single place where you We've got a single place where you book, We've got a single place where you book, and We've got a single place where you book, and we've We've got a single place where you book, and we've brought We've got a single place where you book, and we've brought on We've got a single place where you book, and we've brought on new book, and we've brought on new providers. book, and we've brought on new providers. So, book, and we've brought on new providers. So, we book, and we've brought on new providers. So, we have book, and we've brought on new providers. So, we have now book, and we've brought on new providers. So, we have now GPs, providers. So, we have now GPs, pharmacies, providers. So, we have now GPs, pharmacies, that's providers. So, we have now GPs, pharmacies, that's all providers. So, we have now GPs, pharmacies, that's all grown providers. So, we have now GPs, pharmacies, that's all grown over pharmacies, that's all grown over time. pharmacies, that's all grown over time. The pharmacies, that's all grown over time. The Hon pharmacies, that's all grown over time. The Hon Chris pharmacies, that's all grown over time. The Hon Chris Hipkins. pharmacies, that's all grown over time. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Thank time. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Thank you, time. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Thank you, Mr time. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Thank you, Mr Speaker. time. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Did time. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Did the time. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Did the PM time. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Did the PM and time. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Did the PM and her you, Mr Speaker. Did the PM and her Ministers you, Mr Speaker. Did the PM and her Ministers indicate you, Mr Speaker. Did the PM and her Ministers indicate back you, Mr Speaker. Did the PM and her Ministers indicate back at you, Mr Speaker. Did the PM and her Ministers indicate back at the Ministers indicate back at the beginning Ministers indicate back at the beginning of Ministers indicate back at the beginning of the Ministers indicate back at the beginning of the year, Ministers indicate back at the beginning of the year, when Ministers indicate back at the beginning of the year, when the beginning of the year, when the Government beginning of the year, when the Government opted beginning of the year, when the Government opted for beginning of the year, when the Government opted for a beginning of the year, when the Government opted for a Pfizer-only Government opted for a Pfizer-only campaign, Government opted for a Pfizer-only campaign, that Government opted for a Pfizer-only campaign, that that Government opted for a Pfizer-only campaign, that that would Government opted for a Pfizer-only campaign, that that would mean Government opted for a Pfizer-only campaign, that that would mean that campaign, that that would mean that we campaign, that that would mean that we would campaign, that that would mean that we would have campaign, that that would mean that we would have to campaign, that that would mean that we would have to wait campaign, that that would mean that we would have to wait until campaign, that that would mean that we would have to wait until the we would have to wait until the second we would have to wait until the second half we would have to wait until the second half of we would have to wait until the second half of the we would have to wait until the second half of the year we would have to wait until the second half of the year to we would have to wait until the second half of the year to get we would have to wait until the second half of the year to get the second half of the year to get the bulk second half of the year to get the bulk of second half of the year to get the bulk of the second half of the year to get the bulk of the doses second half of the year to get the bulk of the doses delivered second half of the year to get the bulk of the doses delivered into second half of the year to get the bulk of the doses delivered into New bulk of the doses delivered into New Zealand? bulk of the doses delivered into New Zealand? And bulk of the doses delivered into New Zealand? And did bulk of the doses delivered into New Zealand? And did discussions bulk of the doses delivered into New Zealand? And did discussions start Zealand? And did discussions start almost Zealand? And did discussions start almost immediately Zealand? And did discussions start almost immediately at Zealand? And did discussions start almost immediately at that Zealand? And did discussions start almost immediately at that point Zealand? And did discussions start almost immediately at that point to almost immediately at that point to see almost immediately at that point to see whether almost immediately at that point to see whether we almost immediately at that point to see whether we could almost immediately at that point to see whether we could speed almost immediately at that point to see whether we could speed up almost immediately at that point to see whether we could speed up those see whether we could speed up those deliveries? see whether we could speed up those deliveries? Yes, see whether we could speed up those deliveries? Yes, that's see whether we could speed up those deliveries? Yes, that's absolutely deliveries? Yes, that's absolutely correct. deliveries? Yes, that's absolutely correct. And deliveries? Yes, that's absolutely correct. And the deliveries? Yes, that's absolutely correct. And the member deliveries? Yes, that's absolutely correct. And the member will deliveries? Yes, that's absolutely correct. And the member will be correct. And the member will be familiar correct. And the member will be familiar because correct. And the member will be familiar because he's correct. And the member will be familiar because he's been correct. And the member will be familiar because he's been part correct. And the member will be familiar because he's been part of familiar because he's been part of those familiar because he's been part of those discussions familiar because he's been part of those discussions with familiar because he's been part of those discussions with Pfizer familiar because he's been part of those discussions with Pfizer around those discussions with Pfizer around bringing those discussions with Pfizer around bringing forward those discussions with Pfizer around bringing forward those those discussions with Pfizer around bringing forward those orders those discussions with Pfizer around bringing forward those orders as bringing forward those orders as much bringing forward those orders as much as bringing forward those orders as much as possible. bringing forward those orders as much as possible. And bringing forward those orders as much as possible. And whilst bringing forward those orders as much as possible. And whilst we've much as possible. And whilst we've always much as possible. And whilst we've always acknowledged much as possible. And whilst we've always acknowledged that much as possible. And whilst we've always acknowledged that there much as possible. And whilst we've always acknowledged that there are always acknowledged that there are constraints always acknowledged that there are constraints on always acknowledged that there are constraints on the always acknowledged that there are constraints on the pharmaceutical constraints on the pharmaceutical companies constraints on the pharmaceutical companies who constraints on the pharmaceutical companies who have constraints on the pharmaceutical companies who have enormous constraints on the pharmaceutical companies who have enormous demands companies who have enormous demands on companies who have enormous demands on supply companies who have enormous demands on supply across companies who have enormous demands on supply across the companies who have enormous demands on supply across the globe, companies who have enormous demands on supply across the globe, we companies who have enormous demands on supply across the globe, we have on supply across the globe, we have managed on supply across the globe, we have managed to on supply across the globe, we have managed to get on supply across the globe, we have managed to get the on supply across the globe, we have managed to get the completion on supply across the globe, we have managed to get the completion of on supply across the globe, we have managed to get the completion of our managed to get the completion of our order managed to get the completion of our order through managed to get the completion of our order through the managed to get the completion of our order through the month managed to get the completion of our order through the month of managed to get the completion of our order through the month of October. order through the month of October. Whereas order through the month of October. Whereas you order through the month of October. Whereas you will order through the month of October. Whereas you will have order through the month of October. Whereas you will have heard order through the month of October. Whereas you will have heard us Whereas you will have heard us initially Whereas you will have heard us initially in Whereas you will have heard us initially in the Whereas you will have heard us initially in the campaign Whereas you will have heard us initially in the campaign saying initially in the campaign saying that initially in the campaign saying that those initially in the campaign saying that those deliveries initially in the campaign saying that those deliveries would initially in the campaign saying that those deliveries would occur that those deliveries would occur across that those deliveries would occur across the that those deliveries would occur across the fourth that those deliveries would occur across the fourth quarter. that those deliveries would occur across the fourth quarter. So, that those deliveries would occur across the fourth quarter. So, is across the fourth quarter. So, is the across the fourth quarter. So, is the PM across the fourth quarter. So, is the PM seriously across the fourth quarter. So, is the PM seriously telling across the fourth quarter. So, is the PM seriously telling the across the fourth quarter. 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I seek leave the Hon Judith Collins. I seek leave of the Hon Judith Collins. I seek leave of this the Hon Judith Collins. I seek leave of this House the Hon Judith Collins. I seek leave of this House to the Hon Judith Collins. I seek leave of this House to propose the Hon Judith Collins. I seek leave of this House to propose a the Hon Judith Collins. I seek leave of this House to propose a motion of this House to propose a motion without of this House to propose a motion without debate of this House to propose a motion without debate that of this House to propose a motion without debate that this of this House to propose a motion without debate that this House without debate that this House adopts without debate that this House adopts a without debate that this House adopts a COVID-19 without debate that this House adopts a COVID-19 vaccination without debate that this House adopts a COVID-19 vaccination target adopts a COVID-19 vaccination target of adopts a COVID-19 vaccination target of 90% adopts a COVID-19 vaccination target of 90% by adopts a COVID-19 vaccination target of 90% by the adopts a COVID-19 vaccination target of 90% by the end adopts a COVID-19 vaccination target of 90% by the end of adopts a COVID-19 vaccination target of 90% by the end of the adopts a COVID-19 vaccination target of 90% by the end of the year. adopts a COVID-19 vaccination target of 90% by the end of the year. 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And so that means we want as many people as now. And so that means we want as many people as possible. now. And so that means we want as many people as possible. And now. And so that means we want as many people as possible. And that many people as possible. And that means many people as possible. And that means not many people as possible. And that means not creating many people as possible. And that means not creating space many people as possible. And that means not creating space for many people as possible. 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And on that note, I thank the And on that note, I thank the member's And on that note, I thank the member's colleague, And on that note, I thank the member's colleague, Chris And on that note, I thank the member's colleague, Chris Bishop, member's colleague, Chris Bishop, who member's colleague, Chris Bishop, who went member's colleague, Chris Bishop, who went out member's colleague, Chris Bishop, who went out of member's colleague, Chris Bishop, who went out of his member's colleague, Chris Bishop, who went out of his way member's colleague, Chris Bishop, who went out of his way on member's colleague, Chris Bishop, who went out of his way on his who went out of his way on his Facebook who went out of his way on his Facebook page who went out of his way on his Facebook page to who went out of his way on his Facebook page to seek who went out of his way on his Facebook page to seek people who went out of his way on his Facebook page to seek people who Facebook page to seek people who were Facebook page to seek people who were having Facebook page to seek people who were having problems, Facebook page to seek people who were having problems, and Facebook page to seek people who were having problems, and was were having problems, and was inundated were having problems, and was inundated with were having problems, and was inundated with comments were having problems, and was inundated with comments from were having problems, and was inundated with comments from people inundated with comments from people who inundated with comments from people who said, inundated with comments from people who said, "No inundated with comments from people who said, "No issues inundated with comments from people who said, "No issues at inundated with comments from people who said, "No issues at all. inundated with comments from people who said, "No issues at all. 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Does that the economy recovers. Does he that the economy recovers. Does he accept that the economy recovers. Does he accept new that the economy recovers. Does he accept new wage that the economy recovers. Does he accept new wage subsidy Does he accept new wage subsidy requirements Does he accept new wage subsidy requirements that Does he accept new wage subsidy requirements that hurt Does he accept new wage subsidy requirements that hurt businesses, requirements that hurt businesses, increase requirements that hurt businesses, increase the requirements that hurt businesses, increase the risk requirements that hurt businesses, increase the risk that requirements that hurt businesses, increase the risk that more requirements that hurt businesses, increase the risk that more New increase the risk that more New Zealanders increase the risk that more New Zealanders will increase the risk that more New Zealanders will lose increase the risk that more New Zealanders will lose their increase the risk that more New Zealanders will lose their jobs? increase the risk that more New Zealanders will lose their jobs? No, Zealanders will lose their jobs? No, because Zealanders will lose their jobs? No, because I Zealanders will lose their jobs? No, because I simply Zealanders will lose their jobs? No, because I simply don't Zealanders will lose their jobs? No, because I simply don't accept Zealanders will lose their jobs? No, because I simply don't accept the because I simply don't accept the premise because I simply don't accept the premise of because I simply don't accept the premise of the because I simply don't accept the premise of the member's because I simply don't accept the premise of the member's question. premise of the member's question. Question premise of the member's question. Question No. premise of the member's question. Question No. 4. premise of the member's question. Question No. 4. The premise of the member's question. Question No. 4. The Hon premise of the member's question. Question No. 4. The Hon James premise of the member's question. Question No. 4. The Hon James Shaw. 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A good example of this just today was the of this just today was the announcement of this just today was the announcement by of this just today was the announcement by Ministers of this just today was the announcement by Ministers Henare of this just today was the announcement by Ministers Henare and announcement by Ministers Henare and Sio announcement by Ministers Henare and Sio of announcement by Ministers Henare and Sio of $23 announcement by Ministers Henare and Sio of $23 million announcement by Ministers Henare and Sio of $23 million additional Sio of $23 million additional support Sio of $23 million additional support through Sio of $23 million additional support through the Sio of $23 million additional support through the Whanau Sio of $23 million additional support through the Whanau Ora support through the Whanau Ora Programme, support through the Whanau Ora Programme, comprising support through the Whanau Ora Programme, comprising $8.8 support through the Whanau Ora Programme, comprising $8.8 million, Programme, comprising $8.8 million, and Programme, comprising $8.8 million, and a Programme, comprising $8.8 million, and a further Programme, comprising $8.8 million, and a further $14.2 Programme, comprising $8.8 million, and a further $14.2 million and a further $14.2 million available and a further $14.2 million available to and a further $14.2 million available to be and a further $14.2 million available to be distributed and a further $14.2 million available to be distributed in available to be distributed in response available to be distributed in response to available to be distributed in response to additional available to be distributed in response to additional needs available to be distributed in response to additional needs amongst response to additional needs amongst communities response to additional needs amongst communities more response to additional needs amongst communities more affected response to additional needs amongst communities more affected by response to additional needs amongst communities more affected by the communities more affected by the changes. communities more affected by the changes. In communities more affected by the changes. In addition communities more affected by the changes. In addition to communities more affected by the changes. In addition to that, communities more affected by the changes. In addition to that, the changes. In addition to that, the Government changes. In addition to that, the Government has changes. In addition to that, the Government has announced changes. In addition to that, the Government has announced $26 changes. In addition to that, the Government has announced $26 million Government has announced $26 million today Government has announced $26 million today to Government has announced $26 million today to support Government has announced $26 million today to support Pasifika Government has announced $26 million today to support Pasifika Health Government has announced $26 million today to support Pasifika Health and today to support Pasifika Health and Disability today to support Pasifika Health and Disability Services today to support Pasifika Health and Disability Services in today to support Pasifika Health and Disability Services in recognition Disability Services in recognition of Disability Services in recognition of a Disability Services in recognition of a impact Disability Services in recognition of a impact the Disability Services in recognition of a impact the recent Disability Services in recognition of a impact the recent outbreak Disability Services in recognition of a impact the recent outbreak has of a impact the recent outbreak has had of a impact the recent outbreak has had on of a impact the recent outbreak has had on those of a impact the recent outbreak has had on those communities. of a impact the recent outbreak has had on those communities. 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Does he agree with the Salvation and provide support as we can. Does he agree with the Salvation Army he agree with the Salvation Army that he agree with the Salvation Army that "food he agree with the Salvation Army that "food hardship he agree with the Salvation Army that "food hardship is he agree with the Salvation Army that "food hardship is always he agree with the Salvation Army that "food hardship is always a that "food hardship is always a symptom that "food hardship is always a symptom of that "food hardship is always a symptom of other that "food hardship is always a symptom of other issues that "food hardship is always a symptom of other issues facing that "food hardship is always a symptom of other issues facing that symptom of other issues facing that person symptom of other issues facing that person or symptom of other issues facing that person or whanau"? symptom of other issues facing that person or whanau"? And, symptom of other issues facing that person or whanau"? And, if symptom of other issues facing that person or whanau"? And, if so, symptom of other issues facing that person or whanau"? And, if so, what person or whanau"? And, if so, what new person or whanau"? And, if so, what new actions person or whanau"? And, if so, what new actions will person or whanau"? And, if so, what new actions will the person or whanau"? And, if so, what new actions will the Government person or whanau"? And, if so, what new actions will the Government take new actions will the Government take to new actions will the Government take to address new actions will the Government take to address housing new actions will the Government take to address housing costs, new actions will the Government take to address housing costs, power to address housing costs, power bills, to address housing costs, power bills, and to address housing costs, power bills, and other to address housing costs, power bills, and other strains to address housing costs, power bills, and other strains on bills, and other strains on household bills, and other strains on household budgets bills, and other strains on household budgets during bills, and other strains on household budgets during the household budgets during the lockdown? household budgets during the lockdown? In household budgets during the lockdown? In answer household budgets during the lockdown? In answer to household budgets during the lockdown? 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That is why accept that that is often the case. That is why we accept that that is often the case. That is why we have accept that that is often the case. That is why we have a accept that that is often the case. That is why we have a range accept that that is often the case. That is why we have a range of That is why we have a range of supports That is why we have a range of supports available That is why we have a range of supports available to That is why we have a range of supports available to people That is why we have a range of supports available to people to That is why we have a range of supports available to people to be supports available to people to be able supports available to people to be able to supports available to people to be able to work supports available to people to be able to work on supports available to people to be able to work on issues supports available to people to be able to work on issues like supports available to people to be able to work on issues like rent supports available to people to be able to work on issues like rent or able to work on issues like rent or power able to work on issues like rent or power bills. able to work on issues like rent or power bills. And able to work on issues like rent or power bills. 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And I do note that the number of calls the Ministry of number of calls the Ministry of Social number of calls the Ministry of Social Development number of calls the Ministry of Social Development is number of calls the Ministry of Social Development is getting number of calls the Ministry of Social Development is getting is Social Development is getting is higher Social Development is getting is higher than Social Development is getting is higher than normal, Social Development is getting is higher than normal, and Social Development is getting is higher than normal, and it Social Development is getting is higher than normal, and it is Social Development is getting is higher than normal, and it is about higher than normal, and it is about responding higher than normal, and it is about responding to higher than normal, and it is about responding to those higher than normal, and it is about responding to those needs, higher than normal, and it is about responding to those needs, both responding to those needs, both through responding to those needs, both through emergency responding to those needs, both through emergency grants responding to those needs, both through emergency grants and responding to those needs, both through emergency grants and other through emergency grants and other forms through emergency grants and other forms of through emergency grants and other forms of support. through emergency grants and other forms of support. Will through emergency grants and other forms of support. Will he through emergency grants and other forms of support. Will he consider forms of support. Will he consider using forms of support. Will he consider using the forms of support. Will he consider using the COVID forms of support. Will he consider using the COVID Response forms of support. Will he consider using the COVID Response and using the COVID Response and Recovery using the COVID Response and Recovery Fund using the COVID Response and Recovery Fund to using the COVID Response and Recovery Fund to provide using the COVID Response and Recovery Fund to provide more using the COVID Response and Recovery Fund to provide more income Recovery Fund to provide more income support Recovery Fund to provide more income support so Recovery Fund to provide more income support so that Recovery Fund to provide more income support so that people Recovery Fund to provide more income support so that people can Recovery Fund to provide more income support so that people can shop Recovery Fund to provide more income support so that people can shop and support so that people can shop and buy support so that people can shop and buy their support so that people can shop and buy their own support so that people can shop and buy their own food support so that people can shop and buy their own food and support so that people can shop and buy their own food and take support so that people can shop and buy their own food and take pressure buy their own food and take pressure off buy their own food and take pressure off food buy their own food and take pressure off food parcel buy their own food and take pressure off food parcel providers, buy their own food and take pressure off food parcel providers, who buy their own food and take pressure off food parcel providers, who are off food parcel providers, who are obviously off food parcel providers, who are obviously experiencing off food parcel providers, who are obviously experiencing huge off food parcel providers, who are obviously experiencing huge demand? obviously experiencing huge demand? As obviously experiencing huge demand? As we obviously experiencing huge demand? As we discussed obviously experiencing huge demand? As we discussed yesterday, obviously experiencing huge demand? 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Will implement them as soon as possible. Will he implement them as soon as possible. Will he consider implement them as soon as possible. Will he consider using implement them as soon as possible. Will he consider using the implement them as soon as possible. Will he consider using the COVID Will he consider using the COVID Response Will he consider using the COVID Response and Will he consider using the COVID Response and Recovery Will he consider using the COVID Response and Recovery Fund Will he consider using the COVID Response and Recovery Fund to Response and Recovery Fund to support Response and Recovery Fund to support people Response and Recovery Fund to support people with Response and Recovery Fund to support people with phone Response and Recovery Fund to support people with phone or support people with phone or internet support people with phone or internet credit support people with phone or internet credit so support people with phone or internet credit so that support people with phone or internet credit so that they support people with phone or internet credit so that they can internet credit so that they can actually internet credit so that they can actually contact internet credit so that they can actually contact MSD internet credit so that they can actually contact MSD and internet credit so that they can actually contact MSD and access internet credit so that they can actually contact MSD and access the actually contact MSD and access the support actually contact MSD and access the support that actually contact MSD and access the support that is actually contact MSD and access the support that is available? actually contact MSD and access the support that is available? If actually contact MSD and access the support that is available? If there support that is available? If there are support that is available? If there are people support that is available? If there are people in support that is available? If there are people in the support that is available? If there are people in the situation support that is available? If there are people in the situation where are people in the situation where they are people in the situation where they simply are people in the situation where they simply are are people in the situation where they simply are unable are people in the situation where they simply are unable to are people in the situation where they simply are unable to contact they simply are unable to contact MSD, they simply are unable to contact MSD, we they simply are unable to contact MSD, we would they simply are unable to contact MSD, we would want they simply are unable to contact MSD, we would want to they simply are unable to contact MSD, we would want to know they simply are unable to contact MSD, we would want to know about MSD, we would want to know about that. MSD, we would want to know about that. And MSD, we would want to know about that. And ensure MSD, we would want to know about that. And ensure that MSD, we would want to know about that. And ensure that we MSD, we would want to know about that. And ensure that we can MSD, we would want to know about that. And ensure that we can support that. And ensure that we can support them that. And ensure that we can support them in that. And ensure that we can support them in their that. And ensure that we can support them in their immediate that. And ensure that we can support them in their immediate situation. them in their immediate situation. In them in their immediate situation. In terms them in their immediate situation. In terms of them in their immediate situation. In terms of more them in their immediate situation. In terms of more broad them in their immediate situation. In terms of more broad support them in their immediate situation. 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Will the through MSD can be used for. Will the Government through MSD can be used for. Will the Government increase through MSD can be used for. Will the Government increase the the Government increase the thresholds the Government increase the thresholds for the Government increase the thresholds for housing-related thresholds for housing-related special thresholds for housing-related special needs thresholds for housing-related special needs grants, thresholds for housing-related special needs grants, as thresholds for housing-related special needs grants, as it thresholds for housing-related special needs grants, as it did thresholds for housing-related special needs grants, as it did last special needs grants, as it did last year? special needs grants, as it did last year? And special needs grants, as it did last year? And if special needs grants, as it did last year? And if not, special needs grants, as it did last year? And if not, why special needs grants, as it did last year? And if not, why not? special needs grants, as it did last year? And if not, why not? At special needs grants, as it did last year? And if not, why not? At this year? And if not, why not? At this stage, year? And if not, why not? At this stage, the year? And if not, why not? At this stage, the Government year? And if not, why not? At this stage, the Government does year? And if not, why not? At this stage, the Government does not year? And if not, why not? At this stage, the Government does not have stage, the Government does not have a stage, the Government does not have a plan stage, the Government does not have a plan to stage, the Government does not have a plan to do stage, the Government does not have a plan to do that, stage, the Government does not have a plan to do that, but stage, the Government does not have a plan to do that, but as stage, the Government does not have a plan to do that, but as I stage, the Government does not have a plan to do that, but as I said stage, the Government does not have a plan to do that, but as I said in a plan to do that, but as I said in my a plan to do that, but as I said in my primary a plan to do that, but as I said in my primary answer, a plan to do that, but as I said in my primary answer, we a plan to do that, but as I said in my primary answer, we continue a plan to do that, but as I said in my primary answer, we continue to my primary answer, we continue to monitor my primary answer, we continue to monitor the my primary answer, we continue to monitor the impact my primary answer, we continue to monitor the impact of my primary answer, we continue to monitor the impact of this my primary answer, we continue to monitor the impact of this outbreak monitor the impact of this outbreak on monitor the impact of this outbreak on our monitor the impact of this outbreak on our low-income monitor the impact of this outbreak on our low-income households monitor the impact of this outbreak on our low-income households and monitor the impact of this outbreak on our low-income households and we on our low-income households and we will on our low-income households and we will respond on our low-income households and we will respond accordingly. on our low-income households and we will respond accordingly. 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And you would have seen, as I referenced you would have seen, as I referenced in you would have seen, as I referenced in my you would have seen, as I referenced in my primary you would have seen, as I referenced in my primary answer, you would have seen, as I referenced in my primary answer, that you would have seen, as I referenced in my primary answer, that we you would have seen, as I referenced in my primary answer, that we have in my primary answer, that we have responded in my primary answer, that we have responded where in my primary answer, that we have responded where we in my primary answer, that we have responded where we have in my primary answer, that we have responded where we have the responded where we have the relationships, responded where we have the relationships, where responded where we have the relationships, where we responded where we have the relationships, where we know responded where we have the relationships, where we know we've relationships, where we know we've got relationships, where we know we've got the relationships, where we know we've got the systems relationships, where we know we've got the systems in relationships, where we know we've got the systems in place. relationships, where we know we've got the systems in place. 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It's not a matter of a particular threshold or matter of a particular threshold or anything matter of a particular threshold or anything like matter of a particular threshold or anything like that, matter of a particular threshold or anything like that, it's matter of a particular threshold or anything like that, it's simply anything like that, it's simply responding anything like that, it's simply responding to anything like that, it's simply responding to what anything like that, it's simply responding to what we anything like that, it's simply responding to what we see anything like that, it's simply responding to what we see in anything like that, it's simply responding to what we see in the responding to what we see in the community. responding to what we see in the community. Question responding to what we see in the community. Question No. responding to what we see in the community. Question No. 5. responding to what we see in the community. Question No. 5. The responding to what we see in the community. Question No. 5. The Hon community. Question No. 5. The Hon Todd community. Question No. 5. The Hon Todd McClay. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: of Finance: Does of Finance: Does he of Finance: Does he believe of Finance: Does he believe that of Finance: Does he believe that the of Finance: Does he believe that the current Does he believe that the current COVID-related Does he believe that the current COVID-related financial Does he believe that the current COVID-related financial support COVID-related financial support for COVID-related financial support for struggling COVID-related financial support for struggling businesses COVID-related financial support for struggling businesses is for struggling businesses is adequate, adequate, and adequate, and how adequate, and how many adequate, and how many businesses, and how many businesses, if and how many businesses, if any, and how many businesses, if any, does and how many businesses, if any, does he and how many businesses, if any, does he expect and how many businesses, if any, does he expect to and how many businesses, if any, does he expect to close if any, does he expect to close permanently if any, does he expect to close permanently as if any, does he expect to close permanently as a if any, does he expect to close permanently as a result if any, does he expect to close permanently as a result of if any, does he expect to close permanently as a result of level if any, does he expect to close permanently as a result of level 3 permanently as a result of level 3 and permanently as a result of level 3 and level permanently as a result of level 3 and level 4 permanently as a result of level 3 and level 4 lockdown permanently as a result of level 3 and level 4 lockdown restrictions? Generally Generally speaking, Generally speaking, yes. Generally speaking, yes. But Generally speaking, yes. But as Generally speaking, yes. But as we Generally speaking, yes. But as we have Generally speaking, yes. But as we have done Generally speaking, yes. But as we have done throughout Generally speaking, yes. But as we have done throughout the Generally speaking, yes. But as we have done throughout the pandemic, have done throughout the pandemic, we have done throughout the pandemic, we monitor have done throughout the pandemic, we monitor and have done throughout the pandemic, we monitor and modify have done throughout the pandemic, we monitor and modify the have done throughout the pandemic, we monitor and modify the support we monitor and modify the support provided we monitor and modify the support provided to we monitor and modify the support provided to our we monitor and modify the support provided to our businesses, we monitor and modify the support provided to our businesses, our provided to our businesses, our workers, provided to our businesses, our workers, and provided to our businesses, our workers, and low-income provided to our businesses, our workers, and low-income New workers, and low-income New Zealanders workers, and low-income New Zealanders as workers, and low-income New Zealanders as circumstances workers, and low-income New Zealanders as circumstances change. 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And compared to the previous year. And liquidations compared to the previous year. And liquidations over compared to the previous year. And liquidations over this compared to the previous year. And liquidations over this last compared to the previous year. And liquidations over this last year liquidations over this last year have liquidations over this last year have tracked liquidations over this last year have tracked very liquidations over this last year have tracked very similarly liquidations over this last year have tracked very similarly to have tracked very similarly to previous have tracked very similarly to previous years. have tracked very similarly to previous years. I have tracked very similarly to previous years. I recognise have tracked very similarly to previous years. I recognise that previous years. I recognise that many previous years. I recognise that many businesses previous years. I recognise that many businesses are previous years. I recognise that many businesses are doing previous years. I recognise that many businesses are doing it previous years. I recognise that many businesses are doing it tough many businesses are doing it tough at many businesses are doing it tough at the many businesses are doing it tough at the moment many businesses are doing it tough at the moment and many businesses are doing it tough at the moment and we many businesses are doing it tough at the moment and we will many businesses are doing it tough at the moment and we will continue at the moment and we will continue to at the moment and we will continue to support at the moment and we will continue to support them. at the moment and we will continue to support them. Will at the moment and we will continue to support them. Will he at the moment and we will continue to support them. Will he extend at the moment and we will continue to support them. Will he extend the to support them. Will he extend the resurgent to support them. Will he extend the resurgent support to support them. Will he extend the resurgent support payment, to support them. Will he extend the resurgent support payment, the to support them. 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Has he asked the to support our businesses. Has he asked the Tourism to support our businesses. Has he asked the Tourism Minister to support our businesses. Has he asked the Tourism Minister why to support our businesses. Has he asked the Tourism Minister why he asked the Tourism Minister why he renounced asked the Tourism Minister why he renounced a asked the Tourism Minister why he renounced a scheme asked the Tourism Minister why he renounced a scheme this asked the Tourism Minister why he renounced a scheme this week asked the Tourism Minister why he renounced a scheme this week for renounced a scheme this week for four renounced a scheme this week for four South renounced a scheme this week for four South Island renounced a scheme this week for four South Island regions renounced a scheme this week for four South Island regions to renounced a scheme this week for four South Island regions to provide four South Island regions to provide money four South Island regions to provide money to four South Island regions to provide money to consultants four South Island regions to provide money to consultants to four South Island regions to provide money to consultants to tell four South Island regions to provide money to consultants to tell tourism money to consultants to tell tourism businesses money to consultants to tell tourism businesses they money to consultants to tell tourism businesses they don't money to consultants to tell tourism businesses they don't have money to consultants to tell tourism businesses they don't have any businesses they don't have any tourists businesses they don't have any tourists and businesses they don't have any tourists and how businesses they don't have any tourists and how to businesses they don't have any tourists and how to close? businesses they don't have any tourists and how to close? And tourists and how to close? And wouldn't tourists and how to close? And wouldn't the tourists and how to close? And wouldn't the reprioritisation tourists and how to close? And wouldn't the reprioritisation of wouldn't the reprioritisation of existing wouldn't the reprioritisation of existing funds wouldn't the reprioritisation of existing funds to wouldn't the reprioritisation of existing funds to actually wouldn't the reprioritisation of existing funds to actually help existing funds to actually help these existing funds to actually help these businesses existing funds to actually help these businesses get existing funds to actually help these businesses get through existing funds to actually help these businesses get through be these businesses get through be better? these businesses get through be better? I these businesses get through be better? I do these businesses get through be better? I do not these businesses get through be better? I do not accept these businesses get through be better? I do not accept the these businesses get through be better? I do not accept the member's better? I do not accept the member's characterisation better? I do not accept the member's characterisation of better? I do not accept the member's characterisation of either better? I do not accept the member's characterisation of either the characterisation of either the announcement characterisation of either the announcement or characterisation of either the announcement or the characterisation of either the announcement or the scheme. characterisation of either the announcement or the scheme. What announcement or the scheme. What financial announcement or the scheme. What financial support announcement or the scheme. What financial support will announcement or the scheme. What financial support will he announcement or the scheme. What financial support will he give announcement or the scheme. What financial support will he give to financial support will he give to small financial support will he give to small businesses financial support will he give to small businesses and financial support will he give to small businesses and landlords, financial support will he give to small businesses and landlords, many small businesses and landlords, many of small businesses and landlords, many of whom small businesses and landlords, many of whom are small businesses and landlords, many of whom are small small businesses and landlords, many of whom are small businesses of whom are small businesses themselves, of whom are small businesses themselves, to of whom are small businesses themselves, to specifically of whom are small businesses themselves, to specifically help themselves, to specifically help with themselves, to specifically help with rent themselves, to specifically help with rent during themselves, to specifically help with rent during level themselves, to specifically help with rent during level 4 themselves, to specifically help with rent during level 4 and themselves, to specifically help with rent during level 4 and level themselves, to specifically help with rent during level 4 and level 3 with rent during level 4 and level 3 restrictions? with rent during level 4 and level 3 restrictions? And with rent during level 4 and level 3 restrictions? And will with rent during level 4 and level 3 restrictions? And will he with rent during level 4 and level 3 restrictions? And will he work with rent during level 4 and level 3 restrictions? And will he work with restrictions? And will he work with us restrictions? And will he work with us on restrictions? And will he work with us on a restrictions? And will he work with us on a proposal restrictions? And will he work with us on a proposal to restrictions? And will he work with us on a proposal to provide restrictions? And will he work with us on a proposal to provide urgently us on a proposal to provide urgently needed us on a proposal to provide urgently needed assistance us on a proposal to provide urgently needed assistance for us on a proposal to provide urgently needed assistance for their us on a proposal to provide urgently needed assistance for their mounting needed assistance for their mounting rent needed assistance for their mounting rent bills? needed assistance for their mounting rent bills? The needed assistance for their mounting rent bills? The resurgent needed assistance for their mounting rent bills? The resurgent support rent bills? The resurgent support payment, rent bills? The resurgent support payment, which rent bills? The resurgent support payment, which we rent bills? The resurgent support payment, which we brought rent bills? The resurgent support payment, which we brought in rent bills? 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And along with the tune, I think, of around $428 million. And along with the the tune, I think, of around $428 million. And along with the Wage million. And along with the Wage Subsidy million. And along with the Wage Subsidy Scheme, million. And along with the Wage Subsidy Scheme, means million. And along with the Wage Subsidy Scheme, means that million. And along with the Wage Subsidy Scheme, means that a million. And along with the Wage Subsidy Scheme, means that a grand Subsidy Scheme, means that a grand total Subsidy Scheme, means that a grand total of Subsidy Scheme, means that a grand total of $1.37 Subsidy Scheme, means that a grand total of $1.37 billion Subsidy Scheme, means that a grand total of $1.37 billion has Subsidy Scheme, means that a grand total of $1.37 billion has been Subsidy Scheme, means that a grand total of $1.37 billion has been paid total of $1.37 billion has been paid out total of $1.37 billion has been paid out to total of $1.37 billion has been paid out to businesses total of $1.37 billion has been paid out to businesses in total of $1.37 billion has been paid out to businesses in New total of $1.37 billion has been paid out to businesses in New Zealand out to businesses in New Zealand over out to businesses in New Zealand over the out to businesses in New Zealand over the last out to businesses in New Zealand over the last couple out to businesses in New Zealand over the last couple of out to businesses in New Zealand over the last couple of weeks. out to businesses in New Zealand over the last couple of weeks. 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Can he confirm that last year the Government did considerable year the Government did considerable work year the Government did considerable work on year the Government did considerable work on options year the Government did considerable work on options for year the Government did considerable work on options for commercial year the Government did considerable work on options for commercial rent work on options for commercial rent relief work on options for commercial rent relief for work on options for commercial rent relief for small work on options for commercial rent relief for small businesses work on options for commercial rent relief for small businesses until relief for small businesses until those relief for small businesses until those solutions relief for small businesses until those solutions were relief for small businesses until those solutions were blocked relief for small businesses until those solutions were blocked by relief for small businesses until those solutions were blocked by a those solutions were blocked by a party those solutions were blocked by a party no those solutions were blocked by a party no longer those solutions were blocked by a party no longer represented those solutions were blocked by a party no longer represented in those solutions were blocked by a party no longer represented in this party no longer represented in this House? party no longer represented in this House? 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As at 1:00pm today, there are 78 people who have tested positive 78 people who have tested positive in 78 people who have tested positive in the 78 people who have tested positive in the community 78 people who have tested positive in the community who 78 people who have tested positive in the community who are 78 people who have tested positive in the community who are not 78 people who have tested positive in the community who are not yet 78 people who have tested positive in the community who are not yet in in the community who are not yet in quarantine. in the community who are not yet in quarantine. That in the community who are not yet in quarantine. That is in the community who are not yet in quarantine. That is in in the community who are not yet in quarantine. That is in the in the community who are not yet in quarantine. That is in the context quarantine. That is in the context of quarantine. That is in the context of 736 quarantine. 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The Ministry continues online and telehealth services. The Ministry continues to online and telehealth services. The Ministry continues to work online and telehealth services. The Ministry continues to work with online and telehealth services. The Ministry continues to work with DHBs Ministry continues to work with DHBs for Ministry continues to work with DHBs for elevated Ministry continues to work with DHBs for elevated demand Ministry continues to work with DHBs for elevated demand for Ministry continues to work with DHBs for elevated demand for acute for elevated demand for acute services. for elevated demand for acute services. That for elevated demand for acute services. That is for elevated demand for acute services. That is a for elevated demand for acute services. That is a piece for elevated demand for acute services. That is a piece of for elevated demand for acute services. That is a piece of ongoing services. That is a piece of ongoing work. services. 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What extra support is the Government making available to Government making available to front-line Government making available to front-line youth Government making available to front-line youth mental Government making available to front-line youth mental health front-line youth mental health services front-line youth mental health services in front-line youth mental health services in Auckland front-line youth mental health services in Auckland during front-line youth mental health services in Auckland during the services in Auckland during the lockdown? services in Auckland during the lockdown? About services in Auckland during the lockdown? About the services in Auckland during the lockdown? About the first services in Auckland during the lockdown? About the first week services in Auckland during the lockdown? About the first week of lockdown? About the first week of this lockdown? About the first week of this lockdown, lockdown? About the first week of this lockdown, this lockdown? 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And this particular the House. And this particular question, the House. And this particular question, which the House. And this particular question, which is the House. And this particular question, which is about the House. And this particular question, which is about a question, which is about a COVID-positive question, which is about a COVID-positive person question, which is about a COVID-positive person who question, which is about a COVID-positive person who had COVID-positive person who had escaped COVID-positive person who had escaped from COVID-positive person who had escaped from a COVID-positive person who had escaped from a facility, COVID-positive person who had escaped from a facility, if COVID-positive person who had escaped from a facility, if that escaped from a facility, if that person escaped from a facility, if that person was escaped from a facility, if that person was still escaped from a facility, if that person was still in escaped from a facility, if that person was still in the escaped from a facility, if that person was still in the community person was still in the community then person was still in the community then I person was still in the community then I think person was still in the community then I think it person was still in the community then I think it would person was still in the community then I think it would be person was still in the community then I think it would be appropriate then I think it would be appropriate for then I think it would be appropriate for the then I think it would be appropriate for the question then I think it would be appropriate for the question to then I think it would be appropriate for the question to be then I think it would be appropriate for the question to be asked. then I think it would be appropriate for the question to be asked. 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In accordance with the determination In accordance with the determination of In accordance with the determination of the In accordance with the determination of the Business In accordance with the determination of the Business Committee, In accordance with the determination of the Business Committee, the In accordance with the determination of the Business Committee, the House of the Business Committee, the House stands of the Business Committee, the House stands adjourned of the Business Committee, the House stands adjourned until of the Business Committee, the House stands adjourned until 2:00pm of the Business Committee, the House stands adjourned until 2:00pm on stands adjourned until 2:00pm on Tuesday stands adjourned until 2:00pm on Tuesday 7 stands adjourned until 2:00pm on Tuesday 7 September stands adjourned until 2:00pm on Tuesday 7 September 2021. 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