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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. Mr Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker. Hon Mr Speaker. Hon Andrew Mr Speaker. Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker. Hon Andrew Little. Mr Mr Speaker. Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker Mr Speaker. Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker I Mr Speaker. Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker I wish Mr Speaker. Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker I wish to Mr Speaker. Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker I wish to make Mr Speaker. Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker I wish to make a Mr Speaker. Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker I wish to make a ministerial Speaker I wish to make a ministerial statement Speaker I wish to make a ministerial statement only Speaker I wish to make a ministerial statement only last Speaker I wish to make a ministerial statement only last week's Speaker I wish to make a ministerial statement only last week's terrorist statement only last week's terrorist attack statement only last week's terrorist attack in statement only last week's terrorist attack in Auckland. statement only last week's terrorist attack in Auckland. Mr statement only last week's terrorist attack in Auckland. Mr Speaker, statement only last week's terrorist attack in Auckland. Mr Speaker, at attack in Auckland. Mr Speaker, at around attack in Auckland. Mr Speaker, at around 2:40pm attack in Auckland. Mr Speaker, at around 2:40pm last attack in Auckland. Mr Speaker, at around 2:40pm last Friday, attack in Auckland. 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While extremist entered the Countdown supermarket at New Lynn. While in supermarket at New Lynn. While in the supermarket at New Lynn. While in the supermarket supermarket at New Lynn. While in the supermarket the supermarket at New Lynn. While in the supermarket the individual supermarket at New Lynn. While in the supermarket the individual took the supermarket the individual took a the supermarket the individual took a knife the supermarket the individual took a knife from the supermarket the individual took a knife from the the supermarket the individual took a knife from the shelves the supermarket the individual took a knife from the shelves and the supermarket the individual took a knife from the shelves and it the supermarket the individual took a knife from the shelves and it used a knife from the shelves and it used it a knife from the shelves and it used it to a knife from the shelves and it used it to attack a knife from the shelves and it used it to attack six a knife from the shelves and it used it to attack six innocent a knife from the shelves and it used it to attack six innocent shoppers it to attack six innocent shoppers and it to attack six innocent shoppers and 57th it to attack six innocent shoppers and 57th person it to attack six innocent shoppers and 57th person was it to attack six innocent shoppers and 57th person was also it to attack six innocent shoppers and 57th person was also injured. it to attack six innocent shoppers and 57th person was also injured. A and 57th person was also injured. A police and 57th person was also injured. A police team and 57th person was also injured. A police team surveying and 57th person was also injured. A police team surveying the and 57th person was also injured. A police team surveying the terrorist police team surveying the terrorist intervened police team surveying the terrorist intervened -- police team surveying the terrorist intervened -- 7th. police team surveying the terrorist intervened -- 7th. Shot police team surveying the terrorist intervened -- 7th. Shot and police team surveying the terrorist intervened -- 7th. Shot and killed intervened -- 7th. Shot and killed him. intervened -- 7th. Shot and killed him. The intervened -- 7th. Shot and killed him. The terrorist intervened -- 7th. Shot and killed him. The terrorist acted intervened -- 7th. Shot and killed him. The terrorist acted alone, intervened -- 7th. Shot and killed him. The terrorist acted alone, we him. 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Four injured victims of the attack. Seven people have been hurt. Four were injured victims of the attack. Seven people have been hurt. Four were in people have been hurt. Four were in a people have been hurt. Four were in a critical people have been hurt. Four were in a critical condition people have been hurt. Four were in a critical condition when people have been hurt. Four were in a critical condition when they people have been hurt. Four were in a critical condition when they were a critical condition when they were admitted a critical condition when they were admitted to a critical condition when they were admitted to hospital a critical condition when they were admitted to hospital that a critical condition when they were admitted to hospital that evening. admitted to hospital that evening. All admitted to hospital that evening. All are admitted to hospital that evening. All are now admitted to hospital that evening. All are now stable admitted to hospital that evening. All are now stable or admitted to hospital that evening. All are now stable or recovering admitted to hospital that evening. All are now stable or recovering and All are now stable or recovering and we All are now stable or recovering and we wish All are now stable or recovering and we wish them All are now stable or recovering and we wish them well All are now stable or recovering and we wish them well for All are now stable or recovering and we wish them well for their All are now stable or recovering and we wish them well for their ongoing we wish them well for their ongoing recovery. we wish them well for their ongoing recovery. I we wish them well for their ongoing recovery. I also we wish them well for their ongoing recovery. I also acknowledge we wish them well for their ongoing recovery. I also acknowledge the recovery. I also acknowledge the Countdown recovery. I also acknowledge the Countdown staff recovery. I also acknowledge the Countdown staff and recovery. I also acknowledge the Countdown staff and the recovery. I also acknowledge the Countdown staff and the shoppers recovery. I also acknowledge the Countdown staff and the shoppers in Countdown staff and the shoppers in the Countdown staff and the shoppers in the mall Countdown staff and the shoppers in the mall who Countdown staff and the shoppers in the mall who rendered Countdown staff and the shoppers in the mall who rendered aid Countdown staff and the shoppers in the mall who rendered aid to Countdown staff and the shoppers in the mall who rendered aid to the the mall who rendered aid to the victims the mall who rendered aid to the victims and the mall who rendered aid to the victims and otherwise the mall who rendered aid to the victims and otherwise assisted. the mall who rendered aid to the victims and otherwise assisted. For victims and otherwise assisted. For everyone victims and otherwise assisted. For everyone who victims and otherwise assisted. 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In December 2013 he was granted refugee status 2013 he was granted refugee status by 2013 he was granted refugee status by the 2013 he was granted refugee status by the tribunal 2013 he was granted refugee status by the tribunal 6789 2013 he was granted refugee status by the tribunal 6789 he 2013 he was granted refugee status by the tribunal 6789 he subsequently by the tribunal 6789 he subsequently became by the tribunal 6789 he subsequently became a by the tribunal 6789 he subsequently became a permanent by the tribunal 6789 he subsequently became a permanent resident. by the tribunal 6789 he subsequently became a permanent resident. In by the tribunal 6789 he subsequently became a permanent resident. In 2016 became a permanent resident. In 2016 the became a permanent resident. In 2016 the SS became a permanent resident. In 2016 the SS a became a permanent resident. In 2016 the SS a -- became a permanent resident. In 2016 the SS a -- SAS became a permanent resident. 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Over the years the SAS was committed the years the SAS was committed considerable the years the SAS was committed considerable resources the years the SAS was committed considerable resources to the years the SAS was committed considerable resources to monitoring considerable resources to monitoring the considerable resources to monitoring the threat considerable resources to monitoring the threat posed considerable resources to monitoring the threat posed by considerable resources to monitoring the threat posed by the considerable resources to monitoring the threat posed by the individual the threat posed by the individual because the threat posed by the individual because of the threat posed by the individual because of his the threat posed by the individual because of his threatening the threat posed by the individual because of his threatening actions. because of his threatening actions. In because of his threatening actions. In May because of his threatening actions. In May 2017, because of his threatening actions. In May 2017, the because of his threatening actions. In May 2017, the individual In May 2017, the individual attempted In May 2017, the individual attempted to In May 2017, the individual attempted to leave In May 2017, the individual attempted to leave NDIS In May 2017, the individual attempted to leave NDIS for In May 2017, the individual attempted to leave NDIS for Malaysia attempted to leave NDIS for Malaysia although attempted to leave NDIS for Malaysia although it attempted to leave NDIS for Malaysia although it is attempted to leave NDIS for Malaysia although it is believed attempted to leave NDIS for Malaysia although it is believed his attempted to leave NDIS for Malaysia although it is believed his intended although it is believed his intended destination although it is believed his intended destination was although it is believed his intended destination was Syria although it is believed his intended destination was Syria where although it is believed his intended destination was Syria where he destination was Syria where he intended destination was Syria where he intended to destination was Syria where he intended to join destination was Syria where he intended to join Daesh. destination was Syria where he intended to join Daesh. 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Rushed legislation and response to events runs the risk and response to events runs the risk of and response to events runs the risk of increasing and response to events runs the risk of increasing harm and response to events runs the risk of increasing harm to and response to events runs the risk of increasing harm to innocent of increasing harm to innocent people, of increasing harm to innocent people, particularly of increasing harm to innocent people, particularly Maori, of increasing harm to innocent people, particularly Maori, migrants people, particularly Maori, migrants and people, particularly Maori, migrants and refugees. people, particularly Maori, migrants and refugees. What people, particularly Maori, migrants and refugees. What we people, particularly Maori, migrants and refugees. What we have people, particularly Maori, migrants and refugees. What we have seen and refugees. What we have seen around and refugees. What we have seen around the and refugees. What we have seen around the world and refugees. What we have seen around the world is and refugees. What we have seen around the world is that and refugees. What we have seen around the world is that governments around the world is that governments do around the world is that governments do not around the world is that governments do not make around the world is that governments do not make good around the world is that governments do not make good decisions around the world is that governments do not make good decisions when around the world is that governments do not make good decisions when they do not make good decisions when they are do not make good decisions when they are driven do not make good decisions when they are driven by do not make good decisions when they are driven by fear. do not make good decisions when they are driven by fear. Rather, do not make good decisions when they are driven by fear. Rather, the do not make good decisions when they are driven by fear. Rather, the best are driven by fear. Rather, the best way are driven by fear. Rather, the best way to are driven by fear. Rather, the best way to prevent are driven by fear. Rather, the best way to prevent further are driven by fear. Rather, the best way to prevent further violence are driven by fear. Rather, the best way to prevent further violence in way to prevent further violence in the way to prevent further violence in the future way to prevent further violence in the future is way to prevent further violence in the future is by way to prevent further violence in the future is by upholding way to prevent further violence in the future is by upholding values way to prevent further violence in the future is by upholding values of the future is by upholding values of inclusion the future is by upholding values of inclusion and the future is by upholding values of inclusion and equality. the future is by upholding values of inclusion and equality. The the future is by upholding values of inclusion and equality. The ideology inclusion and equality. The ideology that inclusion and equality. The ideology that drove inclusion and equality. The ideology that drove Friday's inclusion and equality. The ideology that drove Friday's attacker inclusion and equality. The ideology that drove Friday's attacker is inclusion and equality. 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It is not shared by us as any ethnicity. It is not shared by us as a any ethnicity. It is not shared by us as a nation any ethnicity. It is not shared by us as a nation or any ethnicity. It is not shared by us as a nation or any any ethnicity. It is not shared by us as a nation or any of any ethnicity. It is not shared by us as a nation or any of those any ethnicity. It is not shared by us as a nation or any of those who us as a nation or any of those who choose us as a nation or any of those who choose to us as a nation or any of those who choose to seek us as a nation or any of those who choose to seek safety us as a nation or any of those who choose to seek safety and us as a nation or any of those who choose to seek safety and rebuild choose to seek safety and rebuild their choose to seek safety and rebuild their lives choose to seek safety and rebuild their lives here, choose to seek safety and rebuild their lives here, and choose to seek safety and rebuild their lives here, and no-one choose to seek safety and rebuild their lives here, and no-one who their lives here, and no-one who calls their lives here, and no-one who calls Aotearoa their lives here, and no-one who calls Aotearoa home their lives here, and no-one who calls Aotearoa home deserves their lives here, and no-one who calls Aotearoa home deserves to their lives here, and no-one who calls Aotearoa home deserves to have calls Aotearoa home deserves to have this calls Aotearoa home deserves to have this up calls Aotearoa home deserves to have this up ended calls Aotearoa home deserves to have this up ended by calls Aotearoa home deserves to have this up ended by the calls Aotearoa home deserves to have this up ended by the actions calls Aotearoa home deserves to have this up ended by the actions of calls Aotearoa home deserves to have this up ended by the actions of a this up ended by the actions of a lone this up ended by the actions of a lone attacker this up ended by the actions of a lone attacker who this up ended by the actions of a lone attacker who does this up ended by the actions of a lone attacker who does not this up ended by the actions of a lone attacker who does not represent lone attacker who does not represent them. lone attacker who does not represent them. 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If we act history of welcoming immigrants from around the world. If we act now history of welcoming immigrants from around the world. If we act now in around the world. If we act now in any around the world. If we act now in any way around the world. If we act now in any way that around the world. If we act now in any way that stigmatising around the world. If we act now in any way that stigmatising our any way that stigmatising our refugee any way that stigmatising our refugee or any way that stigmatising our refugee or migrant any way that stigmatising our refugee or migrant communities refugee or migrant communities either refugee or migrant communities either as refugee or migrant communities either as an refugee or migrant communities either as an individual refugee or migrant communities either as an individual or refugee or migrant communities either as an individual or as refugee or migrant communities either as an individual or as a either as an individual or as a government either as an individual or as a government it either as an individual or as a government it will either as an individual or as a government it will serve either as an individual or as a government it will serve only either as an individual or as a government it will serve only to government it will serve only to fuel government it will serve only to fuel the government it will serve only to fuel the same government it will serve only to fuel the same false government it will serve only to fuel the same false grievances government it will serve only to fuel the same false grievances that fuel the same false grievances that Friday's fuel the same false grievances that Friday's attacker fuel the same false grievances that Friday's attacker used fuel the same false grievances that Friday's attacker used to fuel the same false grievances that Friday's attacker used to justify Friday's attacker used to justify picking Friday's attacker used to justify picking up Friday's attacker used to justify picking up the Friday's attacker used to justify picking up the knife Friday's attacker used to justify picking up the knife off Friday's attacker used to justify picking up the knife off a picking up the knife off a supermarket picking up the knife off a supermarket and picking up the knife off a supermarket and harm picking up the knife off a supermarket and harm and picking up the knife off a supermarket and harm and harming supermarket and harm and harming others. supermarket and harm and harming others. 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Marama Davidson, the Green Party and I continue to believe that Party and I continue to believe that the Party and I continue to believe that the best Party and I continue to believe that the best way Party and I continue to believe that the best way to Party and I continue to believe that the best way to keep Party and I continue to believe that the best way to keep people Party and I continue to believe that the best way to keep people safe Party and I continue to believe that the best way to keep people safe are the best way to keep people safe are underpinned the best way to keep people safe are underpinned by the best way to keep people safe are underpinned by solutions the best way to keep people safe are underpinned by solutions and underpinned by solutions and evidence. underpinned by solutions and evidence. This underpinned by solutions and evidence. This means underpinned by solutions and evidence. This means acknowledging evidence. This means acknowledging the evidence. This means acknowledging the complexities evidence. This means acknowledging the complexities involved, evidence. This means acknowledging the complexities involved, working the complexities involved, working with the complexities involved, working with communities the complexities involved, working with communities and the complexities involved, working with communities and wrapping the complexities involved, working with communities and wrapping our with communities and wrapping our arms with communities and wrapping our arms around with communities and wrapping our arms around the with communities and wrapping our arms around the problem, with communities and wrapping our arms around the problem, not with communities and wrapping our arms around the problem, not pushing arms around the problem, not pushing it arms around the problem, not pushing it away. it away. <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> David <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> David Seymour. <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> David Seymour. Thank <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> David Seymour. Thank you, <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> David Seymour. Thank you, Mr David Seymour. Thank you, Mr Speaker. David Seymour. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I David Seymour. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I wish David Seymour. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I wish to David Seymour. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I wish to join David Seymour. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I wish to join with David Seymour. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I wish to join with other Speaker. I wish to join with other leaders Speaker. I wish to join with other leaders on Speaker. I wish to join with other leaders on behalf Speaker. I wish to join with other leaders on behalf of Speaker. I wish to join with other leaders on behalf of ACT Speaker. I wish to join with other leaders on behalf of ACT in leaders on behalf of ACT in expressing leaders on behalf of ACT in expressing sincere leaders on behalf of ACT in expressing sincere condolences leaders on behalf of ACT in expressing sincere condolences for expressing sincere condolences for those expressing sincere condolences for those victims expressing sincere condolences for those victims in expressing sincere condolences for those victims in the expressing sincere condolences for those victims in the terror expressing sincere condolences for those victims in the terror attack those victims in the terror attack at those victims in the terror attack at Lyn those victims in the terror attack at Lyn mall those victims in the terror attack at Lyn mall Countdown those victims in the terror attack at Lyn mall Countdown last those victims in the terror attack at Lyn mall Countdown last Friday. those victims in the terror attack at Lyn mall Countdown last Friday. 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I want to further extend those want to further extend those condolences want to further extend those condolences to want to further extend those condolences to their want to further extend those condolences to their families want to further extend those condolences to their families and condolences to their families and all condolences to their families and all those condolences to their families and all those people condolences to their families and all those people going condolences to their families and all those people going about condolences to their families and all those people going about their all those people going about their shopping all those people going about their shopping who all those people going about their shopping who have all those people going about their shopping who have been all those people going about their shopping who have been sadly, all those people going about their shopping who have been sadly, the shopping who have been sadly, the purpose shopping who have been sadly, the purpose of shopping who have been sadly, the purpose of terror shopping who have been sadly, the purpose of terror is shopping who have been sadly, the purpose of terror is precisely shopping who have been sadly, the purpose of terror is precisely to purpose of terror is precisely to make purpose of terror is precisely to make people purpose of terror is precisely to make people afraid purpose of terror is precisely to make people afraid to purpose of terror is precisely to make people afraid to go purpose of terror is precisely to make people afraid to go about purpose of terror is precisely to make people afraid to go about their make people afraid to go about their daily make people afraid to go about their daily business. make people afraid to go about their daily business. I make people afraid to go about their daily business. I want make people afraid to go about their daily business. I want to make people afraid to go about their daily business. I want to add make people afraid to go about their daily business. I want to add our daily business. I want to add our admiration daily business. I want to add our admiration for daily business. I want to add our admiration for those daily business. I want to add our admiration for those members daily business. I want to add our admiration for those members of daily business. I want to add our admiration for those members of the admiration for those members of the NZ admiration for those members of the NZ Police admiration for those members of the NZ Police who admiration for those members of the NZ Police who fastidiously admiration for those members of the NZ Police who fastidiously tracked NZ Police who fastidiously tracked this NZ Police who fastidiously tracked this dangerous NZ Police who fastidiously tracked this dangerous terrorist NZ Police who fastidiously tracked this dangerous terrorist 24/7 NZ Police who fastidiously tracked this dangerous terrorist 24/7 for this dangerous terrorist 24/7 for several this dangerous terrorist 24/7 for several weeks this dangerous terrorist 24/7 for several weeks and this dangerous terrorist 24/7 for several weeks and were this dangerous terrorist 24/7 for several weeks and were on this dangerous terrorist 24/7 for several weeks and were on hand several weeks and were on hand having several weeks and were on hand having worried several weeks and were on hand having worried out several weeks and were on hand having worried out -- several weeks and were on hand having worried out -- carried several weeks and were on hand having worried out -- carried out having worried out -- carried out surveillance having worried out -- carried out surveillance from having worried out -- carried out surveillance from the having worried out -- carried out surveillance from the distance having worried out -- carried out surveillance from the distance they surveillance from the distance they were surveillance from the distance they were able surveillance from the distance they were able and surveillance from the distance they were able and certainly surveillance from the distance they were able and certainly or surveillance from the distance they were able and certainly or almost were able and certainly or almost certainly were able and certainly or almost certainly ensured were able and certainly or almost certainly ensured that were able and certainly or almost certainly ensured that a were able and certainly or almost certainly ensured that a much were able and certainly or almost certainly ensured that a much worse certainly ensured that a much worse tragedy certainly ensured that a much worse tragedy did certainly ensured that a much worse tragedy did not certainly ensured that a much worse tragedy did not take certainly ensured that a much worse tragedy did not take place certainly ensured that a much worse tragedy did not take place by tragedy did not take place by neutralising tragedy did not take place by neutralising the tragedy did not take place by neutralising the terrorist. tragedy did not take place by neutralising the terrorist. 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I want to extend that admiration to the to extend that admiration to the bystanders to extend that admiration to the bystanders shopping to extend that admiration to the bystanders shopping and to extend that admiration to the bystanders shopping and the bystanders shopping and the Countdown bystanders shopping and the Countdown stores bystanders shopping and the Countdown stores who bystanders shopping and the Countdown stores who did bystanders shopping and the Countdown stores who did the bystanders shopping and the Countdown stores who did the Kiwi Countdown stores who did the Kiwi thing Countdown stores who did the Kiwi thing and Countdown stores who did the Kiwi thing and showed Countdown stores who did the Kiwi thing and showed no Countdown stores who did the Kiwi thing and showed no hesitation Countdown stores who did the Kiwi thing and showed no hesitation in thing and showed no hesitation in going thing and showed no hesitation in going and thing and showed no hesitation in going and rushing thing and showed no hesitation in going and rushing to thing and showed no hesitation in going and rushing to the thing and showed no hesitation in going and rushing to the aid thing and showed no hesitation in going and rushing to the aid of going and rushing to the aid of those going and rushing to the aid of those victims. going and rushing to the aid of those victims. 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It would be of completely wrong to foment further hatred and wrong to foment further hatred and ventment wrong to foment further hatred and ventment by wrong to foment further hatred and ventment by having wrong to foment further hatred and ventment by having a wrong to foment further hatred and ventment by having a group wrong to foment further hatred and ventment by having a group of wrong to foment further hatred and ventment by having a group of people ventment by having a group of people judged ventment by having a group of people judged for ventment by having a group of people judged for the ventment by having a group of people judged for the actions ventment by having a group of people judged for the actions of ventment by having a group of people judged for the actions of an judged for the actions of an individual judged for the actions of an individual because judged for the actions of an individual because with judged for the actions of an individual because with freedom individual because with freedom comes individual because with freedom comes responsibility, individual because with freedom comes responsibility, and individual because with freedom comes responsibility, and only individual because with freedom comes responsibility, and only that comes responsibility, and only that individual comes responsibility, and only that individual is comes responsibility, and only that individual is responsible comes responsibility, and only that individual is responsible for comes responsibility, and only that individual is responsible for their individual is responsible for their actions. individual is responsible for their actions. 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Does she agree that if months ago New she agree that if months ago New Zealand she agree that if months ago New Zealand had she agree that if months ago New Zealand had achieved she agree that if months ago New Zealand had achieved the she agree that if months ago New Zealand had achieved the rate she agree that if months ago New Zealand had achieved the rate of Zealand had achieved the rate of vaccination Zealand had achieved the rate of vaccination that Zealand had achieved the rate of vaccination that we Zealand had achieved the rate of vaccination that we are Zealand had achieved the rate of vaccination that we are currently vaccination that we are currently seeing vaccination that we are currently seeing we vaccination that we are currently seeing we would vaccination that we are currently seeing we would be vaccination that we are currently seeing we would be in vaccination that we are currently seeing we would be in the vaccination that we are currently seeing we would be in the position seeing we would be in the position today seeing we would be in the position today where seeing we would be in the position today where hospitality seeing we would be in the position today where hospitality businesses today where hospitality businesses would today where hospitality businesses would not today where hospitality businesses would not need today where hospitality businesses would not need to today where hospitality businesses would not need to be today where hospitality businesses would not need to be under today where hospitality businesses would not need to be under a today where hospitality businesses would not need to be under a new would not need to be under a new alert would not need to be under a new alert level would not need to be under a new alert level 2D? would not need to be under a new alert level 2D? 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First of all, countries that started their all, countries that started their vaccination all, countries that started their vaccination programmes all, countries that started their vaccination programmes in all, countries that started their vaccination programmes in earnest vaccination programmes in earnest in, vaccination programmes in earnest in, say, vaccination programmes in earnest in, say, February vaccination programmes in earnest in, say, February and vaccination programmes in earnest in, say, February and even vaccination programmes in earnest in, say, February and even peaked in, say, February and even peaked around in, say, February and even peaked around April in, say, February and even peaked around April or in, say, February and even peaked around April or May, in, say, February and even peaked around April or May, in in, say, February and even peaked around April or May, in some in, say, February and even peaked around April or May, in some cases around April or May, in some cases still around April or May, in some cases still have around April or May, in some cases still have restrictions around April or May, in some cases still have restrictions in around April or May, in some cases still have restrictions in place. still have restrictions in place. 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Supplementary. What gaps were there in yet." Supplementary. What gaps were there in the yet." Supplementary. What gaps were there in the past yet." Supplementary. What gaps were there in the past way yet." Supplementary. What gaps were there in the past way from yet." Supplementary. What gaps were there in the past way from ED yet." Supplementary. What gaps were there in the past way from ED to there in the past way from ED to isolation there in the past way from ED to isolation at there in the past way from ED to isolation at Middlemore there in the past way from ED to isolation at Middlemore Hospital isolation at Middlemore Hospital that isolation at Middlemore Hospital that resulted isolation at Middlemore Hospital that resulted in isolation at Middlemore Hospital that resulted in a isolation at Middlemore Hospital that resulted in a subsequently that resulted in a subsequently coronavirus that resulted in a subsequently coronavirus positive that resulted in a subsequently coronavirus positive patient that resulted in a subsequently coronavirus positive patient being coronavirus positive patient being place coronavirus positive patient being place NDIS coronavirus positive patient being place NDIS a coronavirus positive patient being place NDIS a shared coronavirus positive patient being place NDIS a shared room coronavirus positive patient being place NDIS a shared room with coronavirus positive patient being place NDIS a shared room with other place NDIS a shared room with other people place NDIS a shared room with other people including place NDIS a shared room with other people including a place NDIS a shared room with other people including a 91-year-old place NDIS a shared room with other people including a 91-year-old man? people including a 91-year-old man? Mr people including a 91-year-old man? Mr Speaker, people including a 91-year-old man? Mr Speaker, the people including a 91-year-old man? Mr Speaker, the information Mr Speaker, the information available Mr Speaker, the information available is Mr Speaker, the information available is that Mr Speaker, the information available is that the Mr Speaker, the information available is that the patient Mr Speaker, the information available is that the patient that available is that the patient that the available is that the patient that the member available is that the patient that the member refers available is that the patient that the member refers to available is that the patient that the member refers to was available is that the patient that the member refers to was tested available is that the patient that the member refers to was tested the the member refers to was tested the day the member refers to was tested the day after the member refers to was tested the day after he the member refers to was tested the day after he was the member refers to was tested the day after he was admitted the member refers to was tested the day after he was admitted to day after he was admitted to hospital day after he was admitted to hospital and day after he was admitted to hospital and returned day after he was admitted to hospital and returned a day after he was admitted to hospital and returned a positive hospital and returned a positive test. hospital and returned a positive test. It's hospital and returned a positive test. It's not hospital and returned a positive test. It's not quite hospital and returned a positive test. It's not quite clear hospital and returned a positive test. It's not quite clear how hospital and returned a positive test. It's not quite clear how that test. It's not quite clear how that could test. It's not quite clear how that could have test. It's not quite clear how that could have been test. It's not quite clear how that could have been detected test. It's not quite clear how that could have been detected without test. 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How many staff at Middlemore have been time it was. Supplementary. How many staff at Middlemore have been asked staff at Middlemore have been asked to staff at Middlemore have been asked to isolate staff at Middlemore have been asked to isolate due staff at Middlemore have been asked to isolate due to staff at Middlemore have been asked to isolate due to this staff at Middlemore have been asked to isolate due to this event? staff at Middlemore have been asked to isolate due to this event? am staff at Middlemore have been asked to isolate due to this event? am not to isolate due to this event? am not familiar to isolate due to this event? am not familiar with to isolate due to this event? am not familiar with the to isolate due to this event? am not familiar with the number to isolate due to this event? am not familiar with the number except to isolate due to this event? am not familiar with the number except to familiar with the number except to say familiar with the number except to say Middlemore familiar with the number except to say Middlemore Hospital familiar with the number except to say Middlemore Hospital and familiar with the number except to say Middlemore Hospital and the say Middlemore Hospital and the undistrict say Middlemore Hospital and the undistrict health say Middlemore Hospital and the undistrict health board say Middlemore Hospital and the undistrict health board are say Middlemore Hospital and the undistrict health board are doing say Middlemore Hospital and the undistrict health board are doing an undistrict health board are doing an exemplary undistrict health board are doing an exemplary job undistrict health board are doing an exemplary job in undistrict health board are doing an exemplary job in managing undistrict health board are doing an exemplary job in managing the exemplary job in managing the pressure exemplary job in managing the pressure they're exemplary job in managing the pressure they're under exemplary job in managing the pressure they're under with exemplary job in managing the pressure they're under with COVID-19 pressure they're under with COVID-19 running pressure they're under with COVID-19 running the pressure they're under with COVID-19 running the COVID-19 pressure they're under with COVID-19 running the COVID-19 wards pressure they're under with COVID-19 running the COVID-19 wards and running the COVID-19 wards and making running the COVID-19 wards and making sure running the COVID-19 wards and making sure their running the COVID-19 wards and making sure their staff running the COVID-19 wards and making sure their staff are running the COVID-19 wards and making sure their staff are kept making sure their staff are kept safe making sure their staff are kept safe with making sure their staff are kept safe with the making sure their staff are kept safe with the appropriate making sure their staff are kept safe with the appropriate PPE. safe with the appropriate PPE. 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Does he consider the -- this event to be if so, why does -- this event to be if so, why does not -- this event to be if so, why does not he -- this event to be if so, why does not he not -- this event to be if so, why does not he not know -- this event to be if so, why does not he not know the -- this event to be if so, why does not he not know the number -- this event to be if so, why does not he not know the number of -- this event to be if so, why does not he not know the number of staff not he not know the number of staff who not he not know the number of staff who maybe not he not know the number of staff who maybe required not he not know the number of staff who maybe required to not he not know the number of staff who maybe required to isolate? not he not know the number of staff who maybe required to isolate? Any who maybe required to isolate? Any patient who maybe required to isolate? Any patient who who maybe required to isolate? 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We have geared COVID-19 is a serious matter. We have geared up COVID-19 is a serious matter. We have geared up a COVID-19 is a serious matter. We have geared up a system COVID-19 is a serious matter. We have geared up a system to COVID-19 is a serious matter. We have geared up a system to deal have geared up a system to deal exactly have geared up a system to deal exactly with have geared up a system to deal exactly with that. have geared up a system to deal exactly with that. That's have geared up a system to deal exactly with that. That's why have geared up a system to deal exactly with that. That's why I have geared up a system to deal exactly with that. That's why I went exactly with that. That's why I went through exactly with that. That's why I went through the exactly with that. That's why I went through the measures exactly with that. That's why I went through the measures that exactly with that. That's why I went through the measures that DHBs exactly with that. That's why I went through the measures that DHBs have through the measures that DHBs have been through the measures that DHBs have been require through the measures that DHBs have been require through through the measures that DHBs have been require through and through the measures that DHBs have been require through and it's through the measures that DHBs have been require through and it's why been require through and it's why additional been require through and it's why additional supplies been require through and it's why additional supplies of been require through and it's why additional supplies of PPE been require through and it's why additional supplies of PPE and been require through and it's why additional supplies of PPE and the additional supplies of PPE and the appropriate additional supplies of PPE and the appropriate training additional supplies of PPE and the appropriate training to additional supplies of PPE and the appropriate training to do additional supplies of PPE and the appropriate training to do with additional supplies of PPE and the appropriate training to do with the appropriate training to do with the PPE appropriate training to do with the PPE and appropriate training to do with the PPE and the appropriate training to do with the PPE and the additional appropriate training to do with the PPE and the additional support appropriate training to do with the PPE and the additional support given PPE and the additional support given to PPE and the additional support given to staff PPE and the additional support given to staff to PPE and the additional support given to staff to manage PPE and the additional support given to staff to manage that PPE and the additional support given to staff to manage that have PPE and the additional support given to staff to manage that have been to staff to manage that have been put to staff to manage that have been put in to staff to manage that have been put in place. to staff to manage that have been put in place. Have to staff to manage that have been put in place. Have are to staff to manage that have been put in place. Have are have to staff to manage that have been put in place. Have are have there put in place. Have are have there been put in place. Have are have there been any put in place. Have are have there been any other put in place. Have are have there been any other incidents put in place. Have are have there been any other incidents during put in place. Have are have there been any other incidents during the been any other incidents during the outbreak been any other incidents during the outbreak where been any other incidents during the outbreak where people been any other incidents during the outbreak where people in been any other incidents during the outbreak where people in hospital outbreak where people in hospital waiting outbreak where people in hospital waiting for outbreak where people in hospital waiting for a outbreak where people in hospital waiting for a coronavirus outbreak where people in hospital waiting for a coronavirus test waiting for a coronavirus test result waiting for a coronavirus test result have waiting for a coronavirus test result have been waiting for a coronavirus test result have been placed waiting for a coronavirus test result have been placed in waiting for a coronavirus test result have been placed in a waiting for a coronavirus test result have been placed in a general result have been placed in a general space result have been placed in a general space with result have been placed in a general space with shared result have been placed in a general space with shared patients result have been placed in a general space with shared patients while space with shared patients while they space with shared patients while they wait? space with shared patients while they wait? It's space with shared patients while they wait? It's not space with shared patients while they wait? It's not possible space with shared patients while they wait? It's not possible to space with shared patients while they wait? It's not possible to say they wait? It's not possible to say whether they wait? It's not possible to say whether or they wait? It's not possible to say whether or not they wait? It's not possible to say whether or not that they wait? It's not possible to say whether or not that is they wait? It's not possible to say whether or not that is the they wait? It's not possible to say whether or not that is the case. they wait? It's not possible to say whether or not that is the case. Our whether or not that is the case. Our response whether or not that is the case. Our response to whether or not that is the case. Our response to COVID-19 whether or not that is the case. Our response to COVID-19 is whether or not that is the case. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Workplace My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations and My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety: My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety: Is Workplace Relations and Safety: Is he Workplace Relations and Safety: Is he confident Workplace Relations and Safety: Is he confident that Workplace Relations and Safety: Is he confident that Government he confident that Government policies he confident that Government policies are he confident that Government policies are ensuring he confident that Government policies are ensuring working he confident that Government policies are ensuring working people policies are ensuring working people are policies are ensuring working people are safe policies are ensuring working people are safe and policies are ensuring working people are safe and supported policies are ensuring working people are safe and supported during policies are ensuring working people are safe and supported during the are safe and supported during the current are safe and supported during the current COVID-19 are safe and supported during the current COVID-19 outbreak? 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Will the Minister assure that essential continue to apply. Will the Minister assure that essential workers continue to apply. Will the Minister assure that essential workers who assure that essential workers who have assure that essential workers who have to assure that essential workers who have to stay assure that essential workers who have to stay home assure that essential workers who have to stay home because assure that essential workers who have to stay home because they're have to stay home because they're unable have to stay home because they're unable to have to stay home because they're unable to access have to stay home because they're unable to access appropriate unable to access appropriate childcare unable to access appropriate childcare continue unable to access appropriate childcare continue to unable to access appropriate childcare continue to be unable to access appropriate childcare continue to be paid unable to access appropriate childcare continue to be paid while childcare continue to be paid while they childcare continue to be paid while they put childcare continue to be paid while they put the childcare continue to be paid while they put the health childcare continue to be paid while they put the health and childcare continue to be paid while they put the health and safety childcare continue to be paid while they put the health and safety of they put the health and safety of their they put the health and safety of their Tamariki they put the health and safety of their Tamariki first? they put the health and safety of their Tamariki first? 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We've seen around $700 million return from around $700 million return from employers around $700 million return from employers from around $700 million return from employers from the around $700 million return from employers from the wage around $700 million return from employers from the wage subsidy employers from the wage subsidy scheme employers from the wage subsidy scheme that employers from the wage subsidy scheme that they've employers from the wage subsidy scheme that they've taken, employers from the wage subsidy scheme that they've taken, and employers from the wage subsidy scheme that they've taken, and I employers from the wage subsidy scheme that they've taken, and I do scheme that they've taken, and I do know scheme that they've taken, and I do know that scheme that they've taken, and I do know that the scheme that they've taken, and I do know that the employment scheme that they've taken, and I do know that the employment parts scheme that they've taken, and I do know that the employment parts of know that the employment parts of the know that the employment parts of the Ministry know that the employment parts of the Ministry of know that the employment parts of the Ministry of Business, know that the employment parts of the Ministry of Business, Innovation the Ministry of Business, Innovation and the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment are the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment are constantly and Employment are constantly following and Employment are constantly following up and Employment are constantly following up complaints and Employment are constantly following up complaints about following up complaints about things, following up complaints about things, not following up complaints about things, not just following up complaints about things, not just related following up complaints about things, not just related to following up complaints about things, not just related to COVID, following up complaints about things, not just related to COVID, I things, not just related to COVID, I might things, not just related to COVID, I might add, things, not just related to COVID, I might add, but things, not just related to COVID, I might add, but where things, not just related to COVID, I might add, but where people things, not just related to COVID, I might add, but where people believe might add, but where people believe that might add, but where people believe that there might add, but where people believe that there have might add, but where people believe that there have been might add, but where people believe that there have been breaches might add, but where people believe that there have been breaches of that there have been breaches of laws. that there have been breaches of laws. 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If the Government were presented with concerns that there presented with concerns that there was presented with concerns that there was inadequate presented with concerns that there was inadequate resourcing, presented with concerns that there was inadequate resourcing, I'm presented with concerns that there was inadequate resourcing, I'm very was inadequate resourcing, I'm very confident was inadequate resourcing, I'm very confident that was inadequate resourcing, I'm very confident that the was inadequate resourcing, I'm very confident that the Minister was inadequate resourcing, I'm very confident that the Minister would confident that the Minister would approach confident that the Minister would approach the confident that the Minister would approach the Minister confident that the Minister would approach the Minister for confident that the Minister would approach the Minister for Finance approach the Minister for Finance with approach the Minister for Finance with that approach the Minister for Finance with that matter. with that matter. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: My question is to the Minister of Finance: Does My question is to the Minister of Finance: Does he My question is to the Minister of Finance: Does he have My question is to the Minister of Finance: Does he have confidence My question is to the Minister of Finance: Does he have confidence in Finance: Does he have confidence in the Finance: Does he have confidence in the administration Finance: Does he have confidence in the administration and Finance: Does he have confidence in the administration and timeliness Finance: Does he have confidence in the administration and timeliness of the administration and timeliness of the the administration and timeliness of the COVID-19 the administration and timeliness of the COVID-19 wage the administration and timeliness of the COVID-19 wage subsidy the administration and timeliness of the COVID-19 wage subsidy scheme? The The Hon The Hon Grant The Hon Grant Robertson. The Hon Grant Robertson. Yes, The Hon Grant Robertson. Yes, we The Hon Grant Robertson. Yes, we have The Hon Grant Robertson. Yes, we have never The Hon Grant Robertson. Yes, we have never had The Hon Grant Robertson. Yes, we have never had to The Hon Grant Robertson. Yes, we have never had to stand The Hon Grant Robertson. Yes, we have never had to stand up The Hon Grant Robertson. Yes, we have never had to stand up a The Hon Grant Robertson. Yes, we have never had to stand up a scheme have never had to stand up a scheme such have never had to stand up a scheme such as have never had to stand up a scheme such as this have never had to stand up a scheme such as this in have never had to stand up a scheme such as this in New have never had to stand up a scheme such as this in New Zealand's such as this in New Zealand's history. such as this in New Zealand's history. And such as this in New Zealand's history. And in such as this in New Zealand's history. And in these such as this in New Zealand's history. And in these circumstances, history. And in these circumstances, I history. And in these circumstances, I think history. And in these circumstances, I think the history. And in these circumstances, I think the administration history. And in these circumstances, I think the administration and I think the administration and timeliness I think the administration and timeliness of I think the administration and timeliness of the I think the administration and timeliness of the scheme I think the administration and timeliness of the scheme has I think the administration and timeliness of the scheme has been timeliness of the scheme has been excellent. timeliness of the scheme has been excellent. The timeliness of the scheme has been excellent. The wage timeliness of the scheme has been excellent. The wage subsidy timeliness of the scheme has been excellent. The wage subsidy scheme excellent. The wage subsidy scheme has excellent. The wage subsidy scheme has so excellent. The wage subsidy scheme has so far excellent. The wage subsidy scheme has so far made excellent. The wage subsidy scheme has so far made 1,337,379 excellent. The wage subsidy scheme has so far made 1,337,379 payments has so far made 1,337,379 payments since has so far made 1,337,379 payments since the has so far made 1,337,379 payments since the start has so far made 1,337,379 payments since the start of has so far made 1,337,379 payments since the start of the has so far made 1,337,379 payments since the start of the COVID-19 since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic. since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic. From since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic. From time since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic. From time to since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic. From time to time, pandemic. From time to time, administration pandemic. From time to time, administration errors pandemic. From time to time, administration errors can pandemic. From time to time, administration errors can occur pandemic. From time to time, administration errors can occur when administration errors can occur when staff administration errors can occur when staff is administration errors can occur when staff is working administration errors can occur when staff is working around administration errors can occur when staff is working around the administration errors can occur when staff is working around the clock, staff is working around the clock, as staff is working around the clock, as happened staff is working around the clock, as happened last staff is working around the clock, as happened last week staff is working around the clock, as happened last week when as happened last week when applications as happened last week when applications were as happened last week when applications were not as happened last week when applications were not possible as happened last week when applications were not possible under applications were not possible under the applications were not possible under the scheme applications were not possible under the scheme for applications were not possible under the scheme for two applications were not possible under the scheme for two hours applications were not possible under the scheme for two hours and applications were not possible under the scheme for two hours and when the scheme for two hours and when the the scheme for two hours and when the new the scheme for two hours and when the new form the scheme for two hours and when the new form was the scheme for two hours and when the new form was uploaded. the scheme for two hours and when the new form was uploaded. This the scheme for two hours and when the new form was uploaded. This is the new form was uploaded. This is regrettable, the new form was uploaded. This is regrettable, of the new form was uploaded. This is regrettable, of course, the new form was uploaded. This is regrettable, of course, but the new form was uploaded. This is regrettable, of course, but does the new form was uploaded. 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Will he extend the application deadline for extend the application deadline for the extend the application deadline for the first extend the application deadline for the first fortnight extend the application deadline for the first fortnight the extend the application deadline for the first fortnight the wage extend the application deadline for the first fortnight the wage subsidy the first fortnight the wage subsidy scheme the first fortnight the wage subsidy scheme was the first fortnight the wage subsidy scheme was available, the first fortnight the wage subsidy scheme was available, given the first fortnight the wage subsidy scheme was available, given the scheme was available, given the early scheme was available, given the early closure scheme was available, given the early closure on scheme was available, given the early closure on 2 scheme was available, given the early closure on 2 September scheme was available, given the early closure on 2 September and early closure on 2 September and portal early closure on 2 September and portal issues early closure on 2 September and portal issues on early closure on 2 September and portal issues on 3 early closure on 2 September and portal issues on 3 September early closure on 2 September and portal issues on 3 September meant portal issues on 3 September meant some portal issues on 3 September meant some businesses portal issues on 3 September meant some businesses were portal issues on 3 September meant some businesses were unable portal issues on 3 September meant some businesses were unable to some businesses were unable to apply? some businesses were unable to apply? As some businesses were unable to apply? As was some businesses were unable to apply? As was said some businesses were unable to apply? As was said at some businesses were unable to apply? As was said at the some businesses were unable to apply? As was said at the time, apply? As was said at the time, anyone apply? As was said at the time, anyone who apply? As was said at the time, anyone who had apply? As was said at the time, anyone who had issues apply? As was said at the time, anyone who had issues during apply? As was said at the time, anyone who had issues during the anyone who had issues during the 2-hour anyone who had issues during the 2-hour period anyone who had issues during the 2-hour period that anyone who had issues during the 2-hour period that the anyone who had issues during the 2-hour period that the applications 2-hour period that the applications were 2-hour period that the applications were not 2-hour period that the applications were not possible 2-hour period that the applications were not possible should 2-hour period that the applications were not possible should make were not possible should make themselves were not possible should make themselves known were not possible should make themselves known to were not possible should make themselves known to MSD. were not possible should make themselves known to MSD. I were not possible should make themselves known to MSD. I am were not possible should make themselves known to MSD. I am aware themselves known to MSD. I am aware that themselves known to MSD. I am aware that 430 themselves known to MSD. I am aware that 430 people themselves known to MSD. I am aware that 430 people have themselves known to MSD. I am aware that 430 people have done themselves known to MSD. I am aware that 430 people have done so themselves known to MSD. I am aware that 430 people have done so and themselves known to MSD. I am aware that 430 people have done so and MSD that 430 people have done so and MSD is that 430 people have done so and MSD is now that 430 people have done so and MSD is now working that 430 people have done so and MSD is now working that that 430 people have done so and MSD is now working that through that 430 people have done so and MSD is now working that through with is now working that through with them. is now working that through with them. How is now working that through with them. How many is now working that through with them. How many wage is now working that through with them. How many wage subsidy them. How many wage subsidy applications them. How many wage subsidy applications were them. How many wage subsidy applications were not them. How many wage subsidy applications were not processed applications were not processed within applications were not processed within the applications were not processed within the 3-day applications were not processed within the 3-day target applications were not processed within the 3-day target set applications were not processed within the 3-day target set by applications were not processed within the 3-day target set by his within the 3-day target set by his Government within the 3-day target set by his Government in within the 3-day target set by his Government in the within the 3-day target set by his Government in the current within the 3-day target set by his Government in the current wage Government in the current wage subsidy Government in the current wage subsidy round? Government in the current wage subsidy round? And Government in the current wage subsidy round? And how Government in the current wage subsidy round? And how many Government in the current wage subsidy round? And how many are subsidy round? And how many are still subsidy round? And how many are still outstanding? subsidy round? And how many are still outstanding? Mr subsidy round? And how many are still outstanding? Mr Speaker, subsidy round? And how many are still outstanding? Mr Speaker, the still outstanding? Mr Speaker, the information still outstanding? Mr Speaker, the information I still outstanding? Mr Speaker, the information I have still outstanding? Mr Speaker, the information I have here still outstanding? Mr Speaker, the information I have here in still outstanding? Mr Speaker, the information I have here in front still outstanding? Mr Speaker, the information I have here in front of information I have here in front of me information I have here in front of me is information I have here in front of me is that information I have here in front of me is that 91% information I have here in front of me is that 91% of information I have here in front of me is that 91% of applications information I have here in front of me is that 91% of applications have me is that 91% of applications have been me is that 91% of applications have been paid me is that 91% of applications have been paid within me is that 91% of applications have been paid within three me is that 91% of applications have been paid within three working me is that 91% of applications have been paid within three working days. been paid within three working days. Why been paid within three working days. Why has been paid within three working days. Why has the been paid within three working days. Why has the Government been paid within three working days. Why has the Government taken Why has the Government taken reference Why has the Government taken reference to Why has the Government taken reference to the Why has the Government taken reference to the 3-day Why has the Government taken reference to the 3-day target Why has the Government taken reference to the 3-day target off reference to the 3-day target off their reference to the 3-day target off their website? reference to the 3-day target off their website? I reference to the 3-day target off their website? I wasn't reference to the 3-day target off their website? I wasn't aware reference to the 3-day target off their website? I wasn't aware that their website? I wasn't aware that we their website? I wasn't aware that we had. their website? I wasn't aware that we had. Does their website? I wasn't aware that we had. Does the their website? I wasn't aware that we had. Does the Minister their website? I wasn't aware that we had. Does the Minister appreciate we had. Does the Minister appreciate that we had. Does the Minister appreciate that delayed we had. Does the Minister appreciate that delayed wage we had. Does the Minister appreciate that delayed wage subsidy we had. Does the Minister appreciate that delayed wage subsidy payments that delayed wage subsidy payments are that delayed wage subsidy payments are creating that delayed wage subsidy payments are creating uncertainty that delayed wage subsidy payments are creating uncertainty and that delayed wage subsidy payments are creating uncertainty and stress are creating uncertainty and stress for are creating uncertainty and stress for New are creating uncertainty and stress for New Zealanders are creating uncertainty and stress for New Zealanders at are creating uncertainty and stress for New Zealanders at a are creating uncertainty and stress for New Zealanders at a time are creating uncertainty and stress for New Zealanders at a time they for New Zealanders at a time they are for New Zealanders at a time they are making for New Zealanders at a time they are making sacrifices for New Zealanders at a time they are making sacrifices and for New Zealanders at a time they are making sacrifices and have for New Zealanders at a time they are making sacrifices and have done are making sacrifices and have done everything are making sacrifices and have done everything the are making sacrifices and have done everything the Government are making sacrifices and have done everything the Government has are making sacrifices and have done everything the Government has asked everything the Government has asked of everything the Government has asked of them? everything the Government has asked of them? 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I absolutely accept that many businesses are in very many businesses are in very stressful many businesses are in very stressful period many businesses are in very stressful period at many businesses are in very stressful period at the many businesses are in very stressful period at the moment many businesses are in very stressful period at the moment and stressful period at the moment and we're stressful period at the moment and we're doing stressful period at the moment and we're doing our stressful period at the moment and we're doing our level stressful period at the moment and we're doing our level best stressful period at the moment and we're doing our level best to we're doing our level best to support we're doing our level best to support them we're doing our level best to support them through we're doing our level best to support them through that we're doing our level best to support them through that as we're doing our level best to support them through that as I we're doing our level best to support them through that as I said support them through that as I said in support them through that as I said in my support them through that as I said in my previous support them through that as I said in my previous answer support them through that as I said in my previous answer - support them through that as I said in my previous answer - 91%, support them through that as I said in my previous answer - 91%, I'm in my previous answer - 91%, I'm advised in my previous answer - 91%, I'm advised that in my previous answer - 91%, I'm advised that 91% in my previous answer - 91%, I'm advised that 91% of in my previous answer - 91%, I'm advised that 91% of paid advised that 91% of paid applications advised that 91% of paid applications have advised that 91% of paid applications have been advised that 91% of paid applications have been paid advised that 91% of paid applications have been paid within applications have been paid within three applications have been paid within three days. applications have been paid within three days. 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What I can say is that the most common reason for a delay the most common reason for a delay in the most common reason for a delay in applications the most common reason for a delay in applications is the most common reason for a delay in applications is where the most common reason for a delay in applications is where the in applications is where the information in applications is where the information held in applications is where the information held by in applications is where the information held by Inland in applications is where the information held by Inland Revenue information held by Inland Revenue about information held by Inland Revenue about a information held by Inland Revenue about a business information held by Inland Revenue about a business is information held by Inland Revenue about a business is different information held by Inland Revenue about a business is different from about a business is different from the about a business is different from the information about a business is different from the information on about a business is different from the information on the about a business is different from the information on the Ministry about a business is different from the information on the Ministry of the information on the Ministry of Social the information on the Ministry of Social Development's the information on the Ministry of Social Development's application, the information on the Ministry of Social Development's application, on Social Development's application, on the Social Development's application, on the application Social Development's application, on the application form. 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So if I can put out a plea, Mr Speaker, single most pressing issue. So if I can put out a plea, Mr Speaker, for can put out a plea, Mr Speaker, for people can put out a plea, Mr Speaker, for people when can put out a plea, Mr Speaker, for people when they can put out a plea, Mr Speaker, for people when they are can put out a plea, Mr Speaker, for people when they are applying, can put out a plea, Mr Speaker, for people when they are applying, to people when they are applying, to ensure people when they are applying, to ensure that people when they are applying, to ensure that the people when they are applying, to ensure that the details people when they are applying, to ensure that the details on people when they are applying, to ensure that the details on their ensure that the details on their application ensure that the details on their application form ensure that the details on their application form with ensure that the details on their application form with MSD ensure that the details on their application form with MSD are ensure that the details on their application form with MSD are the application form with MSD are the same application form with MSD are the same as application form with MSD are the same as the application form with MSD are the same as the details application form with MSD are the same as the details that application form with MSD are the same as the details that are application form with MSD are the same as the details that are held application form with MSD are the same as the details that are held by same as the details that are held by Inland same as the details that are held by Inland Revenue same as the details that are held by Inland Revenue about same as the details that are held by Inland Revenue about that same as the details that are held by Inland Revenue about that business. Inland Revenue about that business. Question Inland Revenue about that business. Question No. Inland Revenue about that business. Question No. 6, Inland Revenue about that business. Question No. 6, David Inland Revenue about that business. Question No. 6, David Seymour. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the PM: My question is to the PM: Does My question is to the PM: Does she My question is to the PM: Does she stand My question is to the PM: Does she stand by My question is to the PM: Does she stand by all My question is to the PM: Does she stand by all her My question is to the PM: Does she stand by all her Government's stand by all her Government's statements stand by all her Government's statements and stand by all her Government's statements and actions? Yes. Yes. Does Yes. Does she Yes. Does she stand Yes. Does she stand by Yes. Does she stand by her Yes. Does she stand by her statement Yes. Does she stand by her statement from Yes. Does she stand by her statement from yesterday Yes. Does she stand by her statement from yesterday that, Yes. Does she stand by her statement from yesterday that, "We Yes. Does she stand by her statement from yesterday that, "We also Yes. Does she stand by her statement from yesterday that, "We also want from yesterday that, "We also want to from yesterday that, "We also want to increase from yesterday that, "We also want to increase our from yesterday that, "We also want to increase our testing from yesterday that, "We also want to increase our testing of from yesterday that, "We also want to increase our testing of people to increase our testing of people who to increase our testing of people who are to increase our testing of people who are crossing to increase our testing of people who are crossing the to increase our testing of people who are crossing the Auckland who are crossing the Auckland boundaries who are crossing the Auckland boundaries to who are crossing the Auckland boundaries to ensure who are crossing the Auckland boundaries to ensure we who are crossing the Auckland boundaries to ensure we don't who are crossing the Auckland boundaries to ensure we don't see boundaries to ensure we don't see any boundaries to ensure we don't see any spread boundaries to ensure we don't see any spread beyond boundaries to ensure we don't see any spread beyond Auckland?" boundaries to ensure we don't see any spread beyond Auckland?" And boundaries to ensure we don't see any spread beyond Auckland?" And if any spread beyond Auckland?" And if so, any spread beyond Auckland?" And if so, why any spread beyond Auckland?" And if so, why hasn't any spread beyond Auckland?" And if so, why hasn't saliva any spread beyond Auckland?" And if so, why hasn't saliva testing any spread beyond Auckland?" And if so, why hasn't saliva testing been so, why hasn't saliva testing been rolled so, why hasn't saliva testing been rolled out so, why hasn't saliva testing been rolled out more so, why hasn't saliva testing been rolled out more widely so, why hasn't saliva testing been rolled out more widely in so, why hasn't saliva testing been rolled out more widely in Auckland rolled out more widely in Auckland at rolled out more widely in Auckland at its rolled out more widely in Auckland at its boundaries? rolled out more widely in Auckland at its boundaries? Yes. rolled out more widely in Auckland at its boundaries? Yes. And rolled out more widely in Auckland at its boundaries? Yes. And to at its boundaries? Yes. And to answer at its boundaries? Yes. And to answer the at its boundaries? Yes. And to answer the second at its boundaries? Yes. And to answer the second half at its boundaries? Yes. And to answer the second half of at its boundaries? Yes. And to answer the second half of the answer the second half of the question answer the second half of the question - answer the second half of the question - as answer the second half of the question - as we answer the second half of the question - as we speak, answer the second half of the question - as we speak, the answer the second half of the question - as we speak, the Ministry question - as we speak, the Ministry of question - as we speak, the Ministry of Health question - as we speak, the Ministry of Health is question - as we speak, the Ministry of Health is working question - as we speak, the Ministry of Health is working on question - as we speak, the Ministry of Health is working on contracting of Health is working on contracting a of Health is working on contracting a provider of Health is working on contracting a provider to of Health is working on contracting a provider to support of Health is working on contracting a provider to support border of Health is working on contracting a provider to support border testing a provider to support border testing with a provider to support border testing with saliva a provider to support border testing with saliva testing. a provider to support border testing with saliva testing. 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It's been used in contingent to have saliva testing. It's been used in both contingent to have saliva testing. It's been used in both the contingent to have saliva testing. It's been used in both the managed It's been used in both the managed isolation It's been used in both the managed isolation facilities It's been used in both the managed isolation facilities where It's been used in both the managed isolation facilities where we It's been used in both the managed isolation facilities where we have It's been used in both the managed isolation facilities where we have a isolation facilities where we have a contractor isolation facilities where we have a contractor for isolation facilities where we have a contractor for a isolation facilities where we have a contractor for a provider isolation facilities where we have a contractor for a provider there. isolation facilities where we have a contractor for a provider there. But contractor for a provider there. 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But it is something that the Ministry of Health is the Ministry of Health is contracting the Ministry of Health is contracting for. the Ministry of Health is contracting for. How the Ministry of Health is contracting for. How is the Ministry of Health is contracting for. How is it the Ministry of Health is contracting for. How is it possible contracting for. How is it possible that contracting for. How is it possible that just contracting for. How is it possible that just 800 contracting for. How is it possible that just 800 saliva contracting for. How is it possible that just 800 saliva tests contracting for. How is it possible that just 800 saliva tests are that just 800 saliva tests are currently that just 800 saliva tests are currently being that just 800 saliva tests are currently being done that just 800 saliva tests are currently being done each that just 800 saliva tests are currently being done each week? that just 800 saliva tests are currently being done each week? When currently being done each week? When the currently being done each week? When the Government currently being done each week? When the Government signed currently being done each week? When the Government signed a currently being done each week? When the Government signed a contract currently being done each week? When the Government signed a contract for the Government signed a contract for 20,000 the Government signed a contract for 20,000 a the Government signed a contract for 20,000 a week the Government signed a contract for 20,000 a week all the Government signed a contract for 20,000 a week all the the Government signed a contract for 20,000 a week all the way the Government signed a contract for 20,000 a week all the way back the Government signed a contract for 20,000 a week all the way back in 20,000 a week all the way back in May? 20,000 a week all the way back in May? Again, 20,000 a week all the way back in May? Again, Mr 20,000 a week all the way back in May? Again, Mr Speaker. 20,000 a week all the way back in May? Again, Mr Speaker. Keeping 20,000 a week all the way back in May? Again, Mr Speaker. Keeping in May? Again, Mr Speaker. Keeping in mind May? Again, Mr Speaker. Keeping in mind that May? Again, Mr Speaker. Keeping in mind that saliva May? Again, Mr Speaker. Keeping in mind that saliva testing May? Again, Mr Speaker. Keeping in mind that saliva testing that May? Again, Mr Speaker. Keeping in mind that saliva testing that we've mind that saliva testing that we've contracted mind that saliva testing that we've contracted to mind that saliva testing that we've contracted to be mind that saliva testing that we've contracted to be provided mind that saliva testing that we've contracted to be provided is mind that saliva testing that we've contracted to be provided is doing contracted to be provided is doing exactly contracted to be provided is doing exactly the contracted to be provided is doing exactly the same contracted to be provided is doing exactly the same job contracted to be provided is doing exactly the same job as contracted to be provided is doing exactly the same job as the contracted to be provided is doing exactly the same job as the nasal exactly the same job as the nasal swabs, exactly the same job as the nasal swabs, albeit, exactly the same job as the nasal swabs, albeit, obviously exactly the same job as the nasal swabs, albeit, obviously through swabs, albeit, obviously through collecting swabs, albeit, obviously through collecting in swabs, albeit, obviously through collecting in a swabs, albeit, obviously through collecting in a different swabs, albeit, obviously through collecting in a different way. swabs, albeit, obviously through collecting in a different way. 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So to have that done on a regular basis. So the to have that done on a regular basis. So the reason to have that done on a regular basis. So the reason for to have that done on a regular basis. So the reason for the to have that done on a regular basis. So the reason for the numbers basis. So the reason for the numbers that basis. So the reason for the numbers that I basis. So the reason for the numbers that I had basis. So the reason for the numbers that I had is basis. So the reason for the numbers that I had is simply basis. So the reason for the numbers that I had is simply for basis. So the reason for the numbers that I had is simply for uptake basis. 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And as I say, the numbers will only continue to increase. And as I say, we're increase. And as I say, we're contracting increase. And as I say, we're contracting separately increase. And as I say, we're contracting separately for increase. And as I say, we're contracting separately for border contracting separately for border testing contracting separately for border testing as contracting separately for border testing as well. contracting separately for border testing as well. So, contracting separately for border testing as well. So, is contracting separately for border testing as well. So, is attesting contracting separately for border testing as well. So, is attesting a testing as well. So, is attesting a very testing as well. So, is attesting a very good testing as well. So, is attesting a very good thing testing as well. So, is attesting a very good thing when testing as well. So, is attesting a very good thing when the testing as well. 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Again, if the member wants the intricate if the member wants the intricate details if the member wants the intricate details on if the member wants the intricate details on how if the member wants the intricate details on how the if the member wants the intricate details on how the Ministry if the member wants the intricate details on how the Ministry of details on how the Ministry of Health details on how the Ministry of Health tends details on how the Ministry of Health tends to details on how the Ministry of Health tends to scale details on how the Ministry of Health tends to scale up details on how the Ministry of Health tends to scale up to details on how the Ministry of Health tends to scale up to what Health tends to scale up to what they've Health tends to scale up to what they've contracted Health tends to scale up to what they've contracted to, Health tends to scale up to what they've contracted to, I Health tends to scale up to what they've contracted to, I invite Health tends to scale up to what they've contracted to, I invite the they've contracted to, I invite the member they've contracted to, I invite the member to they've contracted to, I invite the member to ask they've contracted to, I invite the member to ask the they've contracted to, I invite the member to ask the Minister they've contracted to, I invite the member to ask the Minister for they've contracted to, I invite the member to ask the Minister for COVID member to ask the Minister for COVID response, member to ask the Minister for COVID response, or member to ask the Minister for COVID response, or feel member to ask the Minister for COVID response, or feel free member to ask the Minister for COVID response, or feel free to member to ask the Minister for COVID response, or feel free to put member to ask the Minister for COVID response, or feel free to put a response, or feel free to put a question response, or feel free to put a question like response, or feel free to put a question like this response, or feel free to put a question like this on response, or feel free to put a question like this on notice response, or feel free to put a question like this on notice and response, or feel free to put a question like this on notice and I question like this on notice and I will question like this on notice and I will happily question like this on notice and I will happily bring question like this on notice and I will happily bring down question like this on notice and I will happily bring down some question like this on notice and I will happily bring down some of question like this on notice and I will happily bring down some of the will happily bring down some of the plans will happily bring down some of the plans that will happily bring down some of the plans that the will happily bring down some of the plans that the Ministry will happily bring down some of the plans that the Ministry of will happily bring down some of the plans that the Ministry of Health plans that the Ministry of Health have plans that the Ministry of Health have for plans that the Ministry of Health have for scaling plans that the Ministry of Health have for scaling up plans that the Ministry of Health have for scaling up their plans that the Ministry of Health have for scaling up their contract. have for scaling up their contract. 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Because it's just not information Because it's just not information that Because it's just not information that I Because it's just not information that I have Because it's just not information that I have in Because it's just not information that I have in front Because it's just not information that I have in front of Because it's just not information that I have in front of me Because it's just not information that I have in front of me and Because it's just not information that I have in front of me and I'm that I have in front of me and I'm sure that I have in front of me and I'm sure that that I have in front of me and I'm sure that the that I have in front of me and I'm sure that the member that I have in front of me and I'm sure that the member would sure that the member would appreciate sure that the member would appreciate that. sure that the member would appreciate that. Does sure that the member would appreciate that. Does the sure that the member would appreciate that. Does the PM sure that the member would appreciate that. Does the PM stand appreciate that. Does the PM stand by appreciate that. Does the PM stand by his appreciate that. Does the PM stand by his statements appreciate that. Does the PM stand by his statements earlier appreciate that. Does the PM stand by his statements earlier this by his statements earlier this afternoon by his statements earlier this afternoon about by his statements earlier this afternoon about how by his statements earlier this afternoon about how difficult by his statements earlier this afternoon about how difficult and afternoon about how difficult and complex afternoon about how difficult and complex it afternoon about how difficult and complex it is afternoon about how difficult and complex it is to afternoon about how difficult and complex it is to negotiate afternoon about how difficult and complex it is to negotiate a afternoon about how difficult and complex it is to negotiate a vaccine complex it is to negotiate a vaccine swap complex it is to negotiate a vaccine swap with complex it is to negotiate a vaccine swap with another complex it is to negotiate a vaccine swap with another country? complex it is to negotiate a vaccine swap with another country? 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When did she realise it? Mr afternoon and I still mean it. When did she realise it? Mr Speaker, did she realise it? Mr Speaker, again, did she realise it? Mr Speaker, again, also, did she realise it? Mr Speaker, again, also, the did she realise it? Mr Speaker, again, also, the member did she realise it? 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Question heard me answer the questions around supply. Question No. heard me answer the questions around supply. Question No. 7, heard me answer the questions around supply. Question No. 7, Chris supply. Question No. 7, Chris Bishop. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for COVID-19 My question is to the Minister for COVID-19 Response: My question is to the Minister for COVID-19 Response: Has My question is to the Minister for COVID-19 Response: Has the COVID-19 Response: Has the Director-General COVID-19 Response: Has the Director-General of COVID-19 Response: Has the Director-General of Health COVID-19 Response: Has the Director-General of Health exempted, Director-General of Health exempted, under Director-General of Health exempted, under clause Director-General of Health exempted, under clause 9 Director-General of Health exempted, under clause 9 of Director-General of Health exempted, under clause 9 of the Director-General of Health exempted, under clause 9 of the COVID-19 under clause 9 of the COVID-19 Public under clause 9 of the COVID-19 Public Health under clause 9 of the COVID-19 Public Health Response Public Health Response (Point-of-care Public Health Response (Point-of-care Tests) Public Health Response (Point-of-care Tests) Order Public Health Response (Point-of-care Tests) Order 2021, (Point-of-care Tests) Order 2021, any (Point-of-care Tests) Order 2021, any point-of-care (Point-of-care Tests) Order 2021, any point-of-care tests (Point-of-care Tests) Order 2021, any point-of-care tests from (Point-of-care Tests) Order 2021, any point-of-care tests from the any point-of-care tests from the prohibitions any point-of-care tests from the prohibitions in any point-of-care tests from the prohibitions in that any point-of-care tests from the prohibitions in that order, any point-of-care tests from the prohibitions in that order, and any point-of-care tests from the prohibitions in that order, and what prohibitions in that order, and what is prohibitions in that order, and what is current prohibitions in that order, and what is current Government prohibitions in that order, and what is current Government policy prohibitions in that order, and what is current Government policy on is current Government policy on rapid is current Government policy on rapid COVID-19 is current Government policy on rapid COVID-19 tests? The The Hon The Hon Chris The Hon Chris Hipkins. The Hon Chris Hipkins. I'm The Hon Chris Hipkins. I'm advised The Hon Chris Hipkins. I'm advised that The Hon Chris Hipkins. I'm advised that to The Hon Chris Hipkins. I'm advised that to date, The Hon Chris Hipkins. I'm advised that to date, a The Hon Chris Hipkins. I'm advised that to date, a total The Hon Chris Hipkins. I'm advised that to date, a total of The Hon Chris Hipkins. I'm advised that to date, a total of 34 The Hon Chris Hipkins. 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