This This programme This programme is This programme is live This programme is live captioned This programme is live captioned by This programme is live captioned by Red This programme is live captioned by Red Bee This programme is live captioned by Red Bee Media Red Bee Media for Red Bee Media for the Red Bee Media for the Office Red Bee Media for the Office of Red Bee Media for the Office of the Red Bee Media for the Office of the Clerk for the Office of the Clerk of for the Office of the Clerk of the for the Office of the Clerk of the House for the Office of the Clerk of the House of for the Office of the Clerk of the House of Representatives. The The honourable The honourable Jacqui The honourable Jacqui Dean The honourable Jacqui Dean will The honourable Jacqui Dean will say The honourable Jacqui Dean will say the The honourable Jacqui Dean will say the prayer The honourable Jacqui Dean will say the prayer remotely. Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. A A petition A petition has A petition has been A petition has been delivered A petition has been delivered for A petition has been delivered for presentation. for presentation. Petition for presentation. Petition of for presentation. Petition of Zorawar for presentation. Petition of Zorawar Mann for presentation. Petition of Zorawar Mann requesting Petition of Zorawar Mann requesting that Petition of Zorawar Mann requesting that the Petition of Zorawar Mann requesting that the House Petition of Zorawar Mann requesting that the House urge Petition of Zorawar Mann requesting that the House urge the Petition of Zorawar Mann requesting that the House urge the Government that the House urge the Government to that the House urge the Government to give that the House urge the Government to give lifetime that the House urge the Government to give lifetime visas that the House urge the Government to give lifetime visas to that the House urge the Government to give lifetime visas to parents to give lifetime visas to parents over to give lifetime visas to parents over 60 to give lifetime visas to parents over 60 of to give lifetime visas to parents over 60 of all to give lifetime visas to parents over 60 of all immigrant to give lifetime visas to parents over 60 of all immigrant citizens, over 60 of all immigrant citizens, providing over 60 of all immigrant citizens, providing them over 60 of all immigrant citizens, providing them with over 60 of all immigrant citizens, providing them with medical over 60 of all immigrant citizens, providing them with medical benefits providing them with medical benefits but providing them with medical benefits but not providing them with medical benefits but not living providing them with medical benefits but not living costs. but not living costs. Those but not living costs. Those petitions but not living costs. Those petitions stand but not living costs. Those petitions stand referred but not living costs. Those petitions stand referred to Those petitions stand referred to the Those petitions stand referred to the Petitions Those petitions stand referred to the Petitions Committee. I I present I present the I present the Annual I present the Annual Report I present the Annual Report of I present the Annual Report of the I present the Annual Report of the Parliamentary I present the Annual Report of the Parliamentary Service I present the Annual Report of the Parliamentary Service Commission I present the Annual Report of the Parliamentary Service Commission for Parliamentary Service Commission for the Parliamentary Service Commission for the year Parliamentary Service Commission for the year ended Parliamentary Service Commission for the year ended 30 Parliamentary Service Commission for the year ended 30 June Parliamentary Service Commission for the year ended 30 June 2021. the year ended 30 June 2021. That the year ended 30 June 2021. That paper the year ended 30 June 2021. 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December 2021. Those December 2021. Those reports December 2021. Those reports are December 2021. Those reports are set December 2021. Those reports are set down Those reports are set down for Those reports are set down for consideration. The The Clerk The Clerk has The Clerk has been The Clerk has been informed The Clerk has been informed about The Clerk has been informed about the The Clerk has been informed about the introduction The Clerk has been informed about the introduction of The Clerk has been informed about the introduction of a The Clerk has been informed about the introduction of a bill. The Clerk has been informed about the introduction of a bill. COVID-19 the introduction of a bill. COVID-19 Response the introduction of a bill. COVID-19 Response (Courts the introduction of a bill. COVID-19 Response (Courts Safety) the introduction of a bill. 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Question comes to oral questions. Question No. comes to oral questions. Question No. 1 comes to oral questions. Question No. 1 is comes to oral questions. Question No. 1 is in comes to oral questions. Question No. 1 is in the comes to oral questions. Question No. 1 is in the name comes to oral questions. Question No. 1 is in the name of comes to oral questions. Question No. 1 is in the name of Christopher No. 1 is in the name of Christopher Luxon, No. 1 is in the name of Christopher Luxon, who No. 1 is in the name of Christopher Luxon, who is No. 1 is in the name of Christopher Luxon, who is participating Luxon, who is participating remotely. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: My question is to the Prime Minister: Does My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by her Minister: Does she stand by her response Minister: Does she stand by her response when Minister: Does she stand by her response when asked Minister: Does she stand by her response when asked if Minister: Does she stand by her response when asked if New Minister: Does she stand by her response when asked if New Zealand response when asked if New Zealand has response when asked if New Zealand has a response when asked if New Zealand has a cost response when asked if New Zealand has a cost of response when asked if New Zealand has a cost of living response when asked if New Zealand has a cost of living crisis response when asked if New Zealand has a cost of living crisis that response when asked if New Zealand has a cost of living crisis that "I has a cost of living crisis that "I wouldn't has a cost of living crisis that "I wouldn't describe has a cost of living crisis that "I wouldn't describe it has a cost of living crisis that "I wouldn't describe it that has a cost of living crisis that "I wouldn't describe it that way", has a cost of living crisis that "I wouldn't describe it that way", and wouldn't describe it that way", and is wouldn't describe it that way", and is she wouldn't describe it that way", and is she considering wouldn't describe it that way", and is she considering adjusting wouldn't describe it that way", and is she considering adjusting income is she considering adjusting income tax is she considering adjusting income tax brackets is she considering adjusting income tax brackets to is she considering adjusting income tax brackets to help is she considering adjusting income tax brackets to help Kiwis tax brackets to help Kiwis struggling tax brackets to help Kiwis struggling with tax brackets to help Kiwis struggling with rising tax brackets to help Kiwis struggling with rising prices? The The right The right Hon The right Hon PM. The right Hon PM. Mr The right Hon PM. Mr Speaker, The right Hon PM. Mr Speaker, I The right Hon PM. Mr Speaker, I stand The right Hon PM. Mr Speaker, I stand by The right Hon PM. Mr Speaker, I stand by the The right Hon PM. Mr Speaker, I stand by the entirety The right Hon PM. Mr Speaker, I stand by the entirety of The right Hon PM. Mr Speaker, I stand by the entirety of the stand by the entirety of the interview. stand by the entirety of the interview. Where stand by the entirety of the interview. Where I stand by the entirety of the interview. Where I stated stand by the entirety of the interview. Where I stated that, interview. Where I stated that, quote... interview. Where I stated that, quote... The interview. Where I stated that, quote... The member interview. Where I stated that, quote... The member is interview. Where I stated that, quote... The member is going interview. Where I stated that, quote... The member is going across quote... The member is going across the quote... The member is going across the top quote... The member is going across the top of quote... The member is going across the top of their quote... The member is going across the top of their own quote... The member is going across the top of their own leader. the top of their own leader. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Order. <INTERRUPTION> Order. The <INTERRUPTION> Order. The PM <INTERRUPTION> Order. The PM will <INTERRUPTION> Order. The PM will resume <INTERRUPTION> Order. The PM will resume her <INTERRUPTION> Order. The PM will resume her seat. Order. The PM will resume her seat. I Order. The PM will resume her seat. I will Order. The PM will resume her seat. I will remind Order. The PM will resume her seat. I will remind members Order. The PM will resume her seat. I will remind members of Order. The PM will resume her seat. I will remind members of the I will remind members of the comments I will remind members of the comments I I will remind members of the comments I made I will remind members of the comments I made last I will remind members of the comments I made last week, I will remind members of the comments I made last week, we're I will remind members of the comments I made last week, we're in comments I made last week, we're in a comments I made last week, we're in a more comments I made last week, we're in a more sensitive comments I made last week, we're in a more sensitive time comments I made last week, we're in a more sensitive time as comments I made last week, we're in a more sensitive time as far comments I made last week, we're in a more sensitive time as far as a more sensitive time as far as members a more sensitive time as far as members who a more sensitive time as far as members who are a more sensitive time as far as members who are participating members who are participating remotely members who are participating remotely and, members who are participating remotely and, excess members who are participating remotely and, excess noise members who are participating remotely and, excess noise is remotely and, excess noise is something remotely and, excess noise is something which remotely and, excess noise is something which interferes remotely and, excess noise is something which interferes with something which interferes with their something which interferes with their ability something which interferes with their ability to something which interferes with their ability to hear something which interferes with their ability to hear the something which interferes with their ability to hear the answer. something which interferes with their ability to hear the answer. I their ability to hear the answer. I will their ability to hear the answer. I will ask their ability to hear the answer. I will ask members their ability to hear the answer. I will ask members to their ability to hear the answer. I will ask members to control will ask members to control themselves will ask members to control themselves and will ask members to control themselves and especially will ask members to control themselves and especially Mr will ask members to control themselves and especially Mr Bishop, themselves and especially Mr Bishop, not themselves and especially Mr Bishop, not to themselves and especially Mr Bishop, not to argue themselves and especially Mr Bishop, not to argue from themselves and especially Mr Bishop, not to argue from his themselves and especially Mr Bishop, not to argue from his seat. themselves and especially Mr Bishop, not to argue from his seat. The not to argue from his seat. The right not to argue from his seat. The right Hon not to argue from his seat. The right Hon PM. not to argue from his seat. The right Hon PM. Mr not to argue from his seat. The right Hon PM. Mr Speaker, not to argue from his seat. The right Hon PM. Mr Speaker, I not to argue from his seat. The right Hon PM. Mr Speaker, I stand not to argue from his seat. The right Hon PM. Mr Speaker, I stand by right Hon PM. Mr Speaker, I stand by the right Hon PM. Mr Speaker, I stand by the entirety right Hon PM. Mr Speaker, I stand by the entirety of right Hon PM. Mr Speaker, I stand by the entirety of the right Hon PM. Mr Speaker, I stand by the entirety of the interview right Hon PM. Mr Speaker, I stand by the entirety of the interview where the entirety of the interview where I the entirety of the interview where I stated the entirety of the interview where I stated quote, the entirety of the interview where I stated quote, "There the entirety of the interview where I stated quote, "There is the entirety of the interview where I stated quote, "There is an the entirety of the interview where I stated quote, "There is an impact I stated quote, "There is an impact that I stated quote, "There is an impact that people I stated quote, "There is an impact that people are I stated quote, "There is an impact that people are feeling I stated quote, "There is an impact that people are feeling undeniably," that people are feeling undeniably," Mr that people are feeling undeniably," Mr Speaker, that people are feeling undeniably," Mr Speaker, the that people are feeling undeniably," Mr Speaker, the debate that people are feeling undeniably," Mr Speaker, the debate is that people are feeling undeniably," Mr Speaker, the debate is not Mr Speaker, the debate is not whether Mr Speaker, the debate is not whether inflation Mr Speaker, the debate is not whether inflation has Mr Speaker, the debate is not whether inflation has increased Mr Speaker, the debate is not whether inflation has increased and whether inflation has increased and is whether inflation has increased and is impacting whether inflation has increased and is impacting people, whether inflation has increased and is impacting people, the whether inflation has increased and is impacting people, the debate whether inflation has increased and is impacting people, the debate is is impacting people, the debate is what is impacting people, the debate is what we is impacting people, the debate is what we should is impacting people, the debate is what we should do is impacting people, the debate is what we should do it. is impacting people, the debate is what we should do it. The is impacting people, the debate is what we should do it. The opposition what we should do it. The opposition has what we should do it. The opposition has proposed what we should do it. The opposition has proposed cuts what we should do it. The opposition has proposed cuts to what we should do it. The opposition has proposed cuts to the what we should do it. The opposition has proposed cuts to the top what we should do it. The opposition has proposed cuts to the top tax has proposed cuts to the top tax rate, has proposed cuts to the top tax rate, and has proposed cuts to the top tax rate, and getting has proposed cuts to the top tax rate, and getting rid has proposed cuts to the top tax rate, and getting rid of has proposed cuts to the top tax rate, and getting rid of policies has proposed cuts to the top tax rate, and getting rid of policies to rate, and getting rid of policies to help rate, and getting rid of policies to help first rate, and getting rid of policies to help first home rate, and getting rid of policies to help first home buyers. rate, and getting rid of policies to help first home buyers. We rate, and getting rid of policies to help first home buyers. We on rate, and getting rid of policies to help first home buyers. We on the help first home buyers. We on the other help first home buyers. We on the other hand help first home buyers. We on the other hand have help first home buyers. We on the other hand have worked help first home buyers. We on the other hand have worked consistently other hand have worked consistently to other hand have worked consistently to increase other hand have worked consistently to increase support. other hand have worked consistently to increase support. We other hand have worked consistently to increase support. We have to increase support. We have overseen to increase support. We have overseen a to increase support. We have overseen a $5 to increase support. We have overseen a $5 increase to increase support. We have overseen a $5 increase in to increase support. We have overseen a $5 increase in the overseen a $5 increase in the minimum overseen a $5 increase in the minimum wage. overseen a $5 increase in the minimum wage. We overseen a $5 increase in the minimum wage. We have overseen a $5 increase in the minimum wage. We have increased minimum wage. We have increased working minimum wage. We have increased working for minimum wage. We have increased working for families minimum wage. We have increased working for families changes minimum wage. We have increased working for families changes that working for families changes that will working for families changes that will lead working for families changes that will lead to working for families changes that will lead to 346,000 working for families changes that will lead to 346,000 people working for families changes that will lead to 346,000 people better will lead to 346,000 people better off will lead to 346,000 people better off by will lead to 346,000 people better off by an will lead to 346,000 people better off by an average will lead to 346,000 people better off by an average of will lead to 346,000 people better off by an average of $20 will lead to 346,000 people better off by an average of $20 a will lead to 346,000 people better off by an average of $20 a week. will lead to 346,000 people better off by an average of $20 a week. We off by an average of $20 a week. We created off by an average of $20 a week. We created the off by an average of $20 a week. We created the winter off by an average of $20 a week. We created the winter energy off by an average of $20 a week. We created the winter energy payment, created the winter energy payment, starting created the winter energy payment, starting again created the winter energy payment, starting again from created the winter energy payment, starting again from 1 created the winter energy payment, starting again from 1 May, starting again from 1 May, benefiting starting again from 1 May, benefiting one starting again from 1 May, benefiting one million starting again from 1 May, benefiting one million New benefiting one million New Zealanders benefiting one million New Zealanders in benefiting one million New Zealanders in the benefiting one million New Zealanders in the wind benefiting one million New Zealanders in the wind months. benefiting one million New Zealanders in the wind months. We Zealanders in the wind months. We made Zealanders in the wind months. We made the Zealanders in the wind months. We made the largest Zealanders in the wind months. We made the largest across Zealanders in the wind months. We made the largest across the Zealanders in the wind months. We made the largest across the board made the largest across the board welfare made the largest across the board welfare increases. made the largest across the board welfare increases. We made the largest across the board welfare increases. We have made the largest across the board welfare increases. We have increased welfare increases. We have increased the welfare increases. We have increased the pay welfare increases. We have increased the pay of welfare increases. We have increased the pay of new welfare increases. We have increased the pay of new police welfare increases. We have increased the pay of new police officers welfare increases. We have increased the pay of new police officers by the pay of new police officers by 19%. the pay of new police officers by 19%. 16% the pay of new police officers by 19%. 16% for the pay of new police officers by 19%. 16% for primary the pay of new police officers by 19%. 16% for primary teachers the pay of new police officers by 19%. 16% for primary teachers and 19%. 16% for primary teachers and 21% 19%. 16% for primary teachers and 21% for 19%. 16% for primary teachers and 21% for new 19%. 16% for primary teachers and 21% for new nurses. 19%. 16% for primary teachers and 21% for new nurses. The 19%. 16% for primary teachers and 21% for new nurses. The government 21% for new nurses. The government is 21% for new nurses. The government is providing 21% for new nurses. The government is providing targeted 21% for new nurses. The government is providing targeted support 21% for new nurses. The government is providing targeted support for is providing targeted support for people is providing targeted support for people while is providing targeted support for people while investing is providing targeted support for people while investing in is providing targeted support for people while investing in critical people while investing in critical services people while investing in critical services and people while investing in critical services and keeping people while investing in critical services and keeping a people while investing in critical services and keeping a lid people while investing in critical services and keeping a lid on people while investing in critical services and keeping a lid on debt. services and keeping a lid on debt. Supplementary services and keeping a lid on debt. Supplementary question, services and keeping a lid on debt. Supplementary question, Christopher Supplementary question, Christopher Luxon. Supplementary question, Christopher Luxon. Rent Supplementary question, Christopher Luxon. Rent is Supplementary question, Christopher Luxon. Rent is up Supplementary question, Christopher Luxon. Rent is up $140 Supplementary question, Christopher Luxon. Rent is up $140 a Supplementary question, Christopher Luxon. Rent is up $140 a week, Supplementary question, Christopher Luxon. Rent is up $140 a week, and Luxon. Rent is up $140 a week, and food Luxon. Rent is up $140 a week, and food prices Luxon. Rent is up $140 a week, and food prices are Luxon. Rent is up $140 a week, and food prices are up Luxon. Rent is up $140 a week, and food prices are up more Luxon. Rent is up $140 a week, and food prices are up more than Luxon. Rent is up $140 a week, and food prices are up more than 13% food prices are up more than 13% under food prices are up more than 13% under Labour? food prices are up more than 13% under Labour? Mr food prices are up more than 13% under Labour? Mr Speaker, food prices are up more than 13% under Labour? Mr Speaker, this food prices are up more than 13% under Labour? Mr Speaker, this side under Labour? Mr Speaker, this side of under Labour? Mr Speaker, this side of the under Labour? Mr Speaker, this side of the House under Labour? Mr Speaker, this side of the House absolutely under Labour? Mr Speaker, this side of the House absolutely acknowledges of the House absolutely acknowledges the of the House absolutely acknowledges the increases of the House absolutely acknowledges the increases that of the House absolutely acknowledges the increases that families of the House absolutely acknowledges the increases that families across the increases that families across New the increases that families across New Zealand the increases that families across New Zealand are the increases that families across New Zealand are currently New Zealand are currently experiencing New Zealand are currently experiencing as New Zealand are currently experiencing as many New Zealand are currently experiencing as many other New Zealand are currently experiencing as many other countries experiencing as many other countries are. experiencing as many other countries are. As experiencing as many other countries are. As we experiencing as many other countries are. As we see experiencing as many other countries are. As we see the experiencing as many other countries are. As we see the COVID experiencing as many other countries are. As we see the COVID recovery are. As we see the COVID recovery mean are. As we see the COVID recovery mean that are. As we see the COVID recovery mean that demand are. As we see the COVID recovery mean that demand is are. As we see the COVID recovery mean that demand is often mean that demand is often outstripping mean that demand is often outstripping supply, mean that demand is often outstripping supply, we mean that demand is often outstripping supply, we have mean that demand is often outstripping supply, we have the mean that demand is often outstripping supply, we have the of outstripping supply, we have the of course outstripping supply, we have the of course of outstripping supply, we have the of course of the outstripping supply, we have the of course of the pressure outstripping supply, we have the of course of the pressure on outstripping supply, we have the of course of the pressure on fuel course of the pressure on fuel prices, course of the pressure on fuel prices, gone course of the pressure on fuel prices, gone up course of the pressure on fuel prices, gone up over course of the pressure on fuel prices, gone up over 500% course of the pressure on fuel prices, gone up over 500% since prices, gone up over 500% since April prices, gone up over 500% since April 2020, prices, gone up over 500% since April 2020, in prices, gone up over 500% since April 2020, in terms prices, gone up over 500% since April 2020, in terms of prices, gone up over 500% since April 2020, in terms of a prices, gone up over 500% since April 2020, in terms of a barrel prices, gone up over 500% since April 2020, in terms of a barrel of April 2020, in terms of a barrel of crude April 2020, in terms of a barrel of crude oil. April 2020, in terms of a barrel of crude oil. That April 2020, in terms of a barrel of crude oil. That is April 2020, in terms of a barrel of crude oil. That is having April 2020, in terms of a barrel of crude oil. That is having an April 2020, in terms of a barrel of crude oil. That is having an impact, crude oil. That is having an impact, Mr crude oil. That is having an impact, Mr Speaker. crude oil. That is having an impact, Mr Speaker. But crude oil. That is having an impact, Mr Speaker. But what crude oil. That is having an impact, Mr Speaker. But what I crude oil. That is having an impact, Mr Speaker. But what I would crude oil. That is having an impact, Mr Speaker. But what I would contend Mr Speaker. But what I would contend is Mr Speaker. But what I would contend is the Mr Speaker. But what I would contend is the National Mr Speaker. But what I would contend is the National Party's Mr Speaker. But what I would contend is the National Party's proposal, is the National Party's proposal, for is the National Party's proposal, for instance, is the National Party's proposal, for instance, to is the National Party's proposal, for instance, to take is the National Party's proposal, for instance, to take away for instance, to take away essentially for instance, to take away essentially $26 for instance, to take away essentially $26 per for instance, to take away essentially $26 per week for instance, to take away essentially $26 per week from essentially $26 per week from someone essentially $26 per week from someone earning essentially $26 per week from someone earning under essentially $26 per week from someone earning under $40,000 someone earning under $40,000 because someone earning under $40,000 because they someone earning under $40,000 because they voted someone earning under $40,000 because they voted against someone earning under $40,000 because they voted against our because they voted against our increase because they voted against our increase to because they voted against our increase to the because they voted against our increase to the family because they voted against our increase to the family tax because they voted against our increase to the family tax credit, increase to the family tax credit, and increase to the family tax credit, and instead increase to the family tax credit, and instead replace increase to the family tax credit, and instead replace it increase to the family tax credit, and instead replace it with increase to the family tax credit, and instead replace it with $2.15, and instead replace it with $2.15, is and instead replace it with $2.15, is simply and instead replace it with $2.15, is simply not and instead replace it with $2.15, is simply not the and instead replace it with $2.15, is simply not the way and instead replace it with $2.15, is simply not the way to and instead replace it with $2.15, is simply not the way to support is simply not the way to support families is simply not the way to support families who is simply not the way to support families who need is simply not the way to support families who need it is simply not the way to support families who need it most. families who need it most. Supplementary families who need it most. Supplementary question, families who need it most. Supplementary question, Christopher Supplementary question, Christopher Luxon. Supplementary question, Christopher Luxon. Does Supplementary question, Christopher Luxon. Does she Supplementary question, Christopher Luxon. Does she accept Supplementary question, Christopher Luxon. Does she accept with Supplementary question, Christopher Luxon. Does she accept with petrol Luxon. Does she accept with petrol now Luxon. Does she accept with petrol now above Luxon. Does she accept with petrol now above $3 Luxon. Does she accept with petrol now above $3 a Luxon. Does she accept with petrol now above $3 a litre Luxon. Does she accept with petrol now above $3 a litre in Luxon. Does she accept with petrol now above $3 a litre in some Luxon. Does she accept with petrol now above $3 a litre in some places, now above $3 a litre in some places, Kiwis now above $3 a litre in some places, Kiwis are now above $3 a litre in some places, Kiwis are having now above $3 a litre in some places, Kiwis are having to now above $3 a litre in some places, Kiwis are having to pay now above $3 a litre in some places, Kiwis are having to pay as now above $3 a litre in some places, Kiwis are having to pay as much now above $3 a litre in some places, Kiwis are having to pay as much $60 Kiwis are having to pay as much $60 more Kiwis are having to pay as much $60 more to Kiwis are having to pay as much $60 more to fill Kiwis are having to pay as much $60 more to fill up Kiwis are having to pay as much $60 more to fill up than Kiwis are having to pay as much $60 more to fill up than when Kiwis are having to pay as much $60 more to fill up than when she Kiwis are having to pay as much $60 more to fill up than when she took more to fill up than when she took office? more to fill up than when she took office? 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Mr Speaker, a new police officer graduate is new police officer graduate is receiving new police officer graduate is receiving $12,292 new police officer graduate is receiving $12,292 more new police officer graduate is receiving $12,292 more overall, new police officer graduate is receiving $12,292 more overall, per receiving $12,292 more overall, per annum. receiving $12,292 more overall, per annum. An receiving $12,292 more overall, per annum. An experienced receiving $12,292 more overall, per annum. An experienced nurse, annum. An experienced nurse, $16,431. annum. An experienced nurse, $16,431. The annum. An experienced nurse, $16,431. The average annum. An experienced nurse, $16,431. The average pay annum. An experienced nurse, $16,431. The average pay for annum. An experienced nurse, $16,431. The average pay for a $16,431. The average pay for a secondary $16,431. The average pay for a secondary teacher, $16,431. The average pay for a secondary teacher, Mr $16,431. The average pay for a secondary teacher, Mr Speaker, secondary teacher, Mr Speaker, $12,905 secondary teacher, Mr Speaker, $12,905 difference secondary teacher, Mr Speaker, $12,905 difference between secondary teacher, Mr Speaker, $12,905 difference between now secondary teacher, Mr Speaker, $12,905 difference between now and $12,905 difference between now and 2017. $12,905 difference between now and 2017. That $12,905 difference between now and 2017. That is $12,905 difference between now and 2017. That is a $12,905 difference between now and 2017. That is a marked $12,905 difference between now and 2017. That is a marked increase $12,905 difference between now and 2017. That is a marked increase as $12,905 difference between now and 2017. That is a marked increase as a 2017. That is a marked increase as a result 2017. That is a marked increase as a result of 2017. That is a marked increase as a result of the 2017. That is a marked increase as a result of the focus 2017. That is a marked increase as a result of the focus we've 2017. That is a marked increase as a result of the focus we've had 2017. That is a marked increase as a result of the focus we've had on result of the focus we've had on lifting result of the focus we've had on lifting the result of the focus we've had on lifting the wages result of the focus we've had on lifting the wages of result of the focus we've had on lifting the wages of low- result of the focus we've had on lifting the wages of low- and lifting the wages of low- and middle-income lifting the wages of low- and middle-income New lifting the wages of low- and middle-income New Zealanders lifting the wages of low- and middle-income New Zealanders and lifting the wages of low- and middle-income New Zealanders and we middle-income New Zealanders and we stand middle-income New Zealanders and we stand by middle-income New Zealanders and we stand by that. middle-income New Zealanders and we stand by that. 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What does she say to the mother of five, Christine the mother of five, Christine Nation, the mother of five, Christine Nation, who the mother of five, Christine Nation, who told the mother of five, Christine Nation, who told the the mother of five, Christine Nation, who told the AM the mother of five, Christine Nation, who told the AM show the mother of five, Christine Nation, who told the AM show - the mother of five, Christine Nation, who told the AM show - this Nation, who told the AM show - this is Nation, who told the AM show - this is something Nation, who told the AM show - this is something so Nation, who told the AM show - this is something so embarrassing Nation, who told the AM show - this is something so embarrassing to Nation, who told the AM show - this is something so embarrassing to say, is something so embarrassing to say, I is something so embarrassing to say, I can't is something so embarrassing to say, I can't afford is something so embarrassing to say, I can't afford to is something so embarrassing to say, I can't afford to go is something so embarrassing to say, I can't afford to go to is something so embarrassing to say, I can't afford to go to work. is something so embarrassing to say, I can't afford to go to work. 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We have done admit we've got a cost of living crisis? We have done things admit we've got a cost of living crisis? We have done things like crisis? We have done things like increase crisis? We have done things like increase the crisis? We have done things like increase the mix crisis? We have done things like increase the mix family crisis? We have done things like increase the mix family tax crisis? We have done things like increase the mix family tax credit, increase the mix family tax credit, we increase the mix family tax credit, we have increase the mix family tax credit, we have in increase the mix family tax credit, we have in the increase the mix family tax credit, we have in the work increase the mix family tax credit, we have in the work tax increase the mix family tax credit, we have in the work tax credit, increase the mix family tax credit, we have in the work tax credit, and we have in the work tax credit, and we we have in the work tax credit, and we make we have in the work tax credit, and we make sure we have in the work tax credit, and we make sure those we have in the work tax credit, and we make sure those keep we have in the work tax credit, and we make sure those keep pace we have in the work tax credit, and we make sure those keep pace to we make sure those keep pace to ensure we make sure those keep pace to ensure that we make sure those keep pace to ensure that families we make sure those keep pace to ensure that families are we make sure those keep pace to ensure that families are always ensure that families are always better ensure that families are always better off ensure that families are always better off in ensure that families are always better off in week. ensure that families are always better off in week. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Tourism: My question is to the Minister of Tourism: What My question is to the Minister of Tourism: What announcements My question is to the Minister of Tourism: What announcements has My question is to the Minister of Tourism: What announcements has he Tourism: What announcements has he made Tourism: What announcements has he made about Tourism: What announcements has he made about supporting Tourism: What announcements has he made about supporting communities Tourism: What announcements has he made about supporting communities to made about supporting communities to develop made about supporting communities to develop local made about supporting communities to develop local tourism made about supporting communities to develop local tourism facilities? The The Hon The Hon Stuart The Hon Stuart Nash. The Hon Stuart Nash. Last The Hon Stuart Nash. Last week The Hon Stuart Nash. Last week we The Hon Stuart Nash. Last week we announced The Hon Stuart Nash. Last week we announced a The Hon Stuart Nash. Last week we announced a further The Hon Stuart Nash. Last week we announced a further $16.5 The Hon Stuart Nash. Last week we announced a further $16.5 million announced a further $16.5 million funding announced a further $16.5 million funding round announced a further $16.5 million funding round through announced a further $16.5 million funding round through the announced a further $16.5 million funding round through the tourism funding round through the tourism infrastructure funding round through the tourism infrastructure fund. funding round through the tourism infrastructure fund. As funding round through the tourism infrastructure fund. As we funding round through the tourism infrastructure fund. As we prepare infrastructure fund. As we prepare for infrastructure fund. As we prepare for the infrastructure fund. As we prepare for the return infrastructure fund. As we prepare for the return of infrastructure fund. As we prepare for the return of international for the return of international tourists for the return of international tourists and for the return of international tourists and increasing for the return of international tourists and increasing numbers for the return of international tourists and increasing numbers of tourists and increasing numbers of Kiwis tourists and increasing numbers of Kiwis coming tourists and increasing numbers of Kiwis coming home, tourists and increasing numbers of Kiwis coming home, we tourists and increasing numbers of Kiwis coming home, we are tourists and increasing numbers of Kiwis coming home, we are aware tourists and increasing numbers of Kiwis coming home, we are aware of Kiwis coming home, we are aware of the Kiwis coming home, we are aware of the pressure Kiwis coming home, we are aware of the pressure many Kiwis coming home, we are aware of the pressure many communities Kiwis coming home, we are aware of the pressure many communities face the pressure many communities face when the pressure many communities face when visitor the pressure many communities face when visitor numbers the pressure many communities face when visitor numbers prior the pressure many communities face when visitor numbers prior to the pressure many communities face when visitor numbers prior to the when visitor numbers prior to the global when visitor numbers prior to the global COVID-19 when visitor numbers prior to the global COVID-19 pandemic. when visitor numbers prior to the global COVID-19 pandemic. 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These sort of assets and facilities are vital if we want to facilities are vital if we want to protect facilities are vital if we want to protect and facilities are vital if we want to protect and enhance facilities are vital if we want to protect and enhance our facilities are vital if we want to protect and enhance our 100% facilities are vital if we want to protect and enhance our 100% pure protect and enhance our 100% pure brand protect and enhance our 100% pure brand and protect and enhance our 100% pure brand and our protect and enhance our 100% pure brand and our reputation protect and enhance our 100% pure brand and our reputation for brand and our reputation for offering brand and our reputation for offering quality brand and our reputation for offering quality experiences. offering quality experiences. Supplementary. offering quality experiences. Supplementary. Why offering quality experiences. Supplementary. Why is offering quality experiences. Supplementary. Why is the offering quality experiences. Supplementary. Why is the Government Supplementary. Why is the Government investing Supplementary. Why is the Government investing in Supplementary. Why is the Government investing in councils' Supplementary. Why is the Government investing in councils' tourism investing in councils' tourism infrastructure? investing in councils' tourism infrastructure? Mr investing in councils' tourism infrastructure? Mr Speaker, investing in councils' tourism infrastructure? Mr Speaker, tourism infrastructure? Mr Speaker, tourism is infrastructure? Mr Speaker, tourism is hugely infrastructure? Mr Speaker, tourism is hugely important infrastructure? Mr Speaker, tourism is hugely important to infrastructure? Mr Speaker, tourism is hugely important to the infrastructure? Mr Speaker, tourism is hugely important to the economy. is hugely important to the economy. We is hugely important to the economy. We need is hugely important to the economy. We need quality is hugely important to the economy. We need quality infrastructure is hugely important to the economy. We need quality infrastructure and We need quality infrastructure and facilities We need quality infrastructure and facilities so We need quality infrastructure and facilities so all We need quality infrastructure and facilities so all can We need quality infrastructure and facilities so all can enjoy We need quality infrastructure and facilities so all can enjoy our facilities so all can enjoy our wonderful facilities so all can enjoy our wonderful country. facilities so all can enjoy our wonderful country. Our facilities so all can enjoy our wonderful country. Our investments wonderful country. Our investments are wonderful country. Our investments are proof wonderful country. Our investments are proof of wonderful country. Our investments are proof of our wonderful country. Our investments are proof of our commitment wonderful country. Our investments are proof of our commitment to wonderful country. Our investments are proof of our commitment to stand are proof of our commitment to stand beside are proof of our commitment to stand beside local are proof of our commitment to stand beside local communities are proof of our commitment to stand beside local communities to are proof of our commitment to stand beside local communities to cofund beside local communities to cofund important beside local communities to cofund important tourism beside local communities to cofund important tourism infrastructure important tourism infrastructure that important tourism infrastructure that many important tourism infrastructure that many small important tourism infrastructure that many small towns important tourism infrastructure that many small towns and important tourism infrastructure that many small towns and districts that many small towns and districts can't that many small towns and districts can't afford that many small towns and districts can't afford by that many small towns and districts can't afford by themselves. that many small towns and districts can't afford by themselves. 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To date it's helped to fund more than 200 it's helped to fund more than 200 projects it's helped to fund more than 200 projects from it's helped to fund more than 200 projects from boat it's helped to fund more than 200 projects from boat ramps it's helped to fund more than 200 projects from boat ramps to it's helped to fund more than 200 projects from boat ramps to scenic projects from boat ramps to scenic walkways, projects from boat ramps to scenic walkways, plants, projects from boat ramps to scenic walkways, plants, wharfs projects from boat ramps to scenic walkways, plants, wharfs and projects from boat ramps to scenic walkways, plants, wharfs and more. walkways, plants, wharfs and more. The walkways, plants, wharfs and more. The last walkways, plants, wharfs and more. The last funding walkways, plants, wharfs and more. The last funding round walkways, plants, wharfs and more. The last funding round had walkways, plants, wharfs and more. The last funding round had a walkways, plants, wharfs and more. The last funding round had a focus The last funding round had a focus on The last funding round had a focus on the The last funding round had a focus on the five The last funding round had a focus on the five south The last funding round had a focus on the five south island The last funding round had a focus on the five south island regions on the five south island regions most on the five south island regions most affected on the five south island regions most affected by on the five south island regions most affected by the on the five south island regions most affected by the absence on the five south island regions most affected by the absence of most affected by the absence of international most affected by the absence of international tourists. international tourists. Supplementary. international tourists. Supplementary. How international tourists. Supplementary. How will international tourists. Supplementary. How will this international tourists. Supplementary. How will this funding Supplementary. How will this funding round Supplementary. How will this funding round help Supplementary. How will this funding round help New Supplementary. How will this funding round help New Zealanders Supplementary. How will this funding round help New Zealanders celebrate round help New Zealanders celebrate Matariki? round help New Zealanders celebrate Matariki? Mr round help New Zealanders celebrate Matariki? Mr Speaker, round help New Zealanders celebrate Matariki? Mr Speaker, this round help New Zealanders celebrate Matariki? Mr Speaker, this year's Matariki? Mr Speaker, this year's funding Matariki? Mr Speaker, this year's funding round Matariki? Mr Speaker, this year's funding round will Matariki? Mr Speaker, this year's funding round will have Matariki? Mr Speaker, this year's funding round will have a Matariki? Mr Speaker, this year's funding round will have a special funding round will have a special emphasis funding round will have a special emphasis on funding round will have a special emphasis on physical funding round will have a special emphasis on physical infrastructure emphasis on physical infrastructure to emphasis on physical infrastructure to support emphasis on physical infrastructure to support our emphasis on physical infrastructure to support our unique emphasis on physical infrastructure to support our unique new emphasis on physical infrastructure to support our unique new midwinter to support our unique new midwinter public to support our unique new midwinter public holiday to support our unique new midwinter public holiday marking to support our unique new midwinter public holiday marking Matariki. public holiday marking Matariki. Matariki public holiday marking Matariki. Matariki will public holiday marking Matariki. Matariki will be public holiday marking Matariki. Matariki will be our public holiday marking Matariki. Matariki will be our first public holiday marking Matariki. Matariki will be our first public Matariki will be our first public holiday Matariki will be our first public holiday that Matariki will be our first public holiday that recognises Matariki will be our first public holiday that recognises Te Matariki will be our first public holiday that recognises Te reo holiday that recognises Te reo Maori. holiday that recognises Te reo Maori. Councils holiday that recognises Te reo Maori. Councils are holiday that recognises Te reo Maori. Councils are experienced holiday that recognises Te reo Maori. Councils are experienced to Maori. Councils are experienced to put Maori. Councils are experienced to put real Maori. Councils are experienced to put real thought Maori. Councils are experienced to put real thought into Maori. Councils are experienced to put real thought into infrastructure put real thought into infrastructure they put real thought into infrastructure they want put real thought into infrastructure they want as put real thought into infrastructure they want as part put real thought into infrastructure they want as part of put real thought into infrastructure they want as part of a put real thought into infrastructure they want as part of a growing put real thought into infrastructure they want as part of a growing focus they want as part of a growing focus on they want as part of a growing focus on the they want as part of a growing focus on the significance they want as part of a growing focus on the significance of they want as part of a growing focus on the significance of Matariki, on the significance of Matariki, celebrating on the significance of Matariki, celebrating our on the significance of Matariki, celebrating our newest on the significance of Matariki, celebrating our newest public celebrating our newest public holiday. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Housing: My question is to the Minister of Housing: Does My question is to the Minister of Housing: Does she My question is to the Minister of Housing: Does she have My question is to the Minister of Housing: Does she have confidence My question is to the Minister of Housing: Does she have confidence in Housing: Does she have confidence in the Housing: Does she have confidence in the leadership Housing: Does she have confidence in the leadership of Housing: Does she have confidence in the leadership of Kainga Housing: Does she have confidence in the leadership of Kainga Ora; Housing: Does she have confidence in the leadership of Kainga Ora; if Housing: Does she have confidence in the leadership of Kainga Ora; if so, the leadership of Kainga Ora; if so, who, the leadership of Kainga Ora; if so, who, if the leadership of Kainga Ora; if so, who, if anyone, the leadership of Kainga Ora; if so, who, if anyone, has the leadership of Kainga Ora; if so, who, if anyone, has been the leadership of Kainga Ora; if so, who, if anyone, has been held who, if anyone, has been held accountable who, if anyone, has been held accountable for who, if anyone, has been held accountable for its who, if anyone, has been held accountable for its decision who, if anyone, has been held accountable for its decision to who, if anyone, has been held accountable for its decision to use accountable for its decision to use taxpayer accountable for its decision to use taxpayer funds accountable for its decision to use taxpayer funds to accountable for its decision to use taxpayer funds to publish an taxpayer funds to publish an election-year taxpayer funds to publish an election-year advertisement election-year advertisement featuring election-year advertisement featuring a election-year advertisement featuring a soon-to-be-announced featuring a soon-to-be-announced Labour featuring a soon-to-be-announced Labour Party featuring a soon-to-be-announced Labour Party candidate? The The Hon The Hon Dr The Hon Dr Megan The Hon Dr Megan Woods. The Hon Dr Megan Woods. Mr The Hon Dr Megan Woods. Mr Speaker, The Hon Dr Megan Woods. Mr Speaker, in The Hon Dr Megan Woods. Mr Speaker, in answer The Hon Dr Megan Woods. Mr Speaker, in answer to The Hon Dr Megan Woods. Mr Speaker, in answer to the The Hon Dr Megan Woods. Mr Speaker, in answer to the first The Hon Dr Megan Woods. Mr Speaker, in answer to the first part The Hon Dr Megan Woods. Mr Speaker, in answer to the first part of The Hon Dr Megan Woods. Mr Speaker, in answer to the first part of the in answer to the first part of the question, in answer to the first part of the question, yes. in answer to the first part of the question, yes. In in answer to the first part of the question, yes. In regard in answer to the first part of the question, yes. In regard to in answer to the first part of the question, yes. In regard to the question, yes. In regard to the article, question, yes. 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In regard to the article, I made it clear to Kainga article, I made it clear to Kainga Ora article, I made it clear to Kainga Ora it article, I made it clear to Kainga Ora it did article, I made it clear to Kainga Ora it did not article, I made it clear to Kainga Ora it did not meet article, I made it clear to Kainga Ora it did not meet my article, I made it clear to Kainga Ora it did not meet my expectations Ora it did not meet my expectations on Ora it did not meet my expectations on public Ora it did not meet my expectations on public service Ora it did not meet my expectations on public service neutrality and on public service neutrality and that's on public service neutrality and that's why on public service neutrality and that's why I on public service neutrality and that's why I communicated on public service neutrality and that's why I communicated to on public service neutrality and that's why I communicated to them on public service neutrality and that's why I communicated to them on that's why I communicated to them on 3 that's why I communicated to them on 3 August that's why I communicated to them on 3 August to that's why I communicated to them on 3 August to convey that's why I communicated to them on 3 August to convey the that's why I communicated to them on 3 August to convey the conduct that's why I communicated to them on 3 August to convey the conduct did 3 August to convey the conduct did not 3 August to convey the conduct did not meet 3 August to convey the conduct did not meet those 3 August to convey the conduct did not meet those expectations 3 August to convey the conduct did not meet those expectations for 3 August to convey the conduct did not meet those expectations for how not meet those expectations for how Kainga not meet those expectations for how Kainga Ora not meet those expectations for how Kainga Ora should not meet those expectations for how Kainga Ora should operate. not meet those expectations for how Kainga Ora should operate. 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On that same day, I made it Christal clear to both the made it Christal clear to both the chair made it Christal clear to both the chair and made it Christal clear to both the chair and chief made it Christal clear to both the chair and chief executive made it Christal clear to both the chair and chief executive the chair and chief executive the organisation chair and chief executive the organisation was chair and chief executive the organisation was not chair and chief executive the organisation was not meeting chair and chief executive the organisation was not meeting my organisation was not meeting my expectations organisation was not meeting my expectations about organisation was not meeting my expectations about how organisation was not meeting my expectations about how seriously organisation was not meeting my expectations about how seriously it expectations about how seriously it needs expectations about how seriously it needs to expectations about how seriously it needs to take expectations about how seriously it needs to take its expectations about how seriously it needs to take its duty expectations about how seriously it needs to take its duty on expectations about how seriously it needs to take its duty on public needs to take its duty on public sector needs to take its duty on public sector neutrality. needs to take its duty on public sector neutrality. 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I note accountable to ensure nothing like this happens again. I note that accountable to ensure nothing like this happens again. I note that in this happens again. I note that in his this happens again. I note that in his report, this happens again. I note that in his report, the this happens again. I note that in his report, the Public this happens again. 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I acknowledged there is further work to be done. I expect acknowledged there is further work to be done. I expect Kainga acknowledged there is further work to be done. I expect Kainga Ora acknowledged there is further work to be done. I expect Kainga Ora to to be done. I expect Kainga Ora to improve to be done. I expect Kainga Ora to improve the to be done. I expect Kainga Ora to improve the culture to be done. I expect Kainga Ora to improve the culture of to be done. 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I asked for him to be investigated and I take the investigated and I take the conclusions investigated and I take the conclusions of investigated and I take the conclusions of that investigated and I take the conclusions of that investigation conclusions of that investigation seriously. conclusions of that investigation seriously. Supplementary. conclusions of that investigation seriously. Supplementary. Was conclusions of that investigation seriously. Supplementary. Was the seriously. Supplementary. Was the chief seriously. Supplementary. Was the chief executive seriously. Supplementary. Was the chief executive of seriously. Supplementary. Was the chief executive of Kainga seriously. Supplementary. 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As soon as I saw that information and request, I saw that information and request, I I saw that information and request, I contacted I saw that information and request, I contacted Kainga I saw that information and request, I contacted Kainga Ora I saw that information and request, I contacted Kainga Ora and I saw that information and request, I contacted Kainga Ora and let I saw that information and request, I contacted Kainga Ora and let them I contacted Kainga Ora and let them know I contacted Kainga Ora and let them know it I contacted Kainga Ora and let them know it was I contacted Kainga Ora and let them know it was well I contacted Kainga Ora and let them know it was well below I contacted Kainga Ora and let them know it was well below my know it was well below my expectations, know it was well below my expectations, it know it was well below my expectations, it simply know it was well below my expectations, it simply was expectations, it simply was impossible expectations, it simply was impossible to expectations, it simply was impossible to unknow expectations, it simply was impossible to unknow something expectations, it simply was impossible to unknow something once impossible to unknow something once it impossible to unknow something once it was impossible to unknow something once it was known. impossible to unknow something once it was known. 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I do note, however, that member sat on that OAA for that member sat on that OAA for several that member sat on that OAA for several weeks that member sat on that OAA for several weeks before that member sat on that OAA for several weeks before she that member sat on that OAA for several weeks before she did several weeks before she did anything several weeks before she did anything about several weeks before she did anything about it. several weeks before she did anything about it. <INTERRUPTION> anything about it. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. anything about it. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. Does anything about it. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. Does the anything about it. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. Does the member anything about it. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary. Does the member want Supplementary. Does the member want a Supplementary. Does the member want a supplementary? Supplementary. Does the member want a supplementary? Yes. Supplementary. Does the member want a supplementary? Yes. The Supplementary. Does the member want a supplementary? Yes. The member Supplementary. Does the member want a supplementary? Yes. The member may a supplementary? Yes. The member may ask a supplementary? Yes. The member may ask her a supplementary? Yes. The member may ask her colleagues a supplementary? Yes. The member may ask her colleagues to a supplementary? Yes. The member may ask her colleagues to be a supplementary? Yes. The member may ask her colleagues to be quiet. ask her colleagues to be quiet. Supplementary, ask her colleagues to be quiet. Supplementary, Nicola ask her colleagues to be quiet. Supplementary, Nicola Willis. ask her colleagues to be quiet. Supplementary, Nicola Willis. Why Supplementary, Nicola Willis. Why does Supplementary, Nicola Willis. Why does Andrew Supplementary, Nicola Willis. Why does Andrew MacKenzie Supplementary, Nicola Willis. Why does Andrew MacKenzie remain Supplementary, Nicola Willis. Why does Andrew MacKenzie remain the does Andrew MacKenzie remain the chief does Andrew MacKenzie remain the chief executive does Andrew MacKenzie remain the chief executive of does Andrew MacKenzie remain the chief executive of Kainga does Andrew MacKenzie remain the chief executive of Kainga Ora does Andrew MacKenzie remain the chief executive of Kainga Ora when chief executive of Kainga Ora when he chief executive of Kainga Ora when he has chief executive of Kainga Ora when he has failed chief executive of Kainga Ora when he has failed to chief executive of Kainga Ora when he has failed to ensure chief executive of Kainga Ora when he has failed to ensure his he has failed to ensure his organisation he has failed to ensure his organisation understood he has failed to ensure his organisation understood basic organisation understood basic standards organisation understood basic standards of organisation understood basic standards of public organisation understood basic standards of public service standards of public service neutrality, standards of public service neutrality, and standards of public service neutrality, and when standards of public service neutrality, and when despite neutrality, and when despite explicit neutrality, and when despite explicit warnings neutrality, and when despite explicit warnings from neutrality, and when despite explicit warnings from her neutrality, and when despite explicit warnings from her as explicit warnings from her as minister explicit warnings from her as minister and explicit warnings from her as minister and the explicit warnings from her as minister and the chairman explicit warnings from her as minister and the chairman of explicit warnings from her as minister and the chairman of Kainga minister and the chairman of Kainga Ora, minister and the chairman of Kainga Ora, he minister and the chairman of Kainga Ora, he continued minister and the chairman of Kainga Ora, he continued to minister and the chairman of Kainga Ora, he continued to stand minister and the chairman of Kainga Ora, he continued to stand by minister and the chairman of Kainga Ora, he continued to stand by such Ora, he continued to stand by such obviously Ora, he continued to stand by such obviously wrong Ora, he continued to stand by such obviously wrong decisions Ora, he continued to stand by such obviously wrong decisions by Ora, he continued to stand by such obviously wrong decisions by his obviously wrong decisions by his senior obviously wrong decisions by his senior staff? obviously wrong decisions by his senior staff? 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Mr Speaker, as I have indicated in an answer to a previous indicated in an answer to a previous question, indicated in an answer to a previous question, I indicated in an answer to a previous question, I have indicated in an answer to a previous question, I have confidence indicated in an answer to a previous question, I have confidence in indicated in an answer to a previous question, I have confidence in the question, I have confidence in the chief question, I have confidence in the chief executive question, I have confidence in the chief executive of question, I have confidence in the chief executive of Kainga question, I have confidence in the chief executive of Kainga Ora. question, I have confidence in the chief executive of Kainga Ora. And question, I have confidence in the chief executive of Kainga Ora. And I chief executive of Kainga Ora. And I have chief executive of Kainga Ora. And I have further chief executive of Kainga Ora. And I have further confidence chief executive of Kainga Ora. And I have further confidence reinforced have further confidence reinforced from have further confidence reinforced from the have further confidence reinforced from the report have further confidence reinforced from the report I have further confidence reinforced from the report I asked have further confidence reinforced from the report I asked the from the report I asked the parliamentary from the report I asked the parliamentary - from the report I asked the parliamentary - the from the report I asked the parliamentary - the Public from the report I asked the parliamentary - the Public Service parliamentary - the Public Service Commissioner parliamentary - the Public Service Commissioner to parliamentary - the Public Service Commissioner to carry parliamentary - the Public Service Commissioner to carry out, parliamentary - the Public Service Commissioner to carry out, who parliamentary - the Public Service Commissioner to carry out, who notes Commissioner to carry out, who notes there Commissioner to carry out, who notes there is Commissioner to carry out, who notes there is clear Commissioner to carry out, who notes there is clear evidence Commissioner to carry out, who notes there is clear evidence that Commissioner to carry out, who notes there is clear evidence that there there is clear evidence that there has there is clear evidence that there has been there is clear evidence that there has been an there is clear evidence that there has been an improvement there is clear evidence that there has been an improvement in has been an improvement in processes. has been an improvement in processes. He has been an improvement in processes. He notes has been an improvement in processes. He notes that has been an improvement in processes. He notes that the has been an improvement in processes. He notes that the chief processes. He notes that the chief executive processes. He notes that the chief executive and processes. He notes that the chief executive and the processes. He notes that the chief executive and the management processes. He notes that the chief executive and the management team executive and the management team have executive and the management team have owned executive and the management team have owned this executive and the management team have owned this was executive and the management team have owned this was not executive and the management team have owned this was not handled have owned this was not handled properly, have owned this was not handled properly, and have owned this was not handled properly, and importantly have owned this was not handled properly, and importantly for have owned this was not handled properly, and importantly for me, properly, and importantly for me, they're properly, and importantly for me, they're focused properly, and importantly for me, they're focused on properly, and importantly for me, they're focused on fixing properly, and importantly for me, they're focused on fixing this. they're focused on fixing this. Supplementary. they're focused on fixing this. Supplementary. Why they're focused on fixing this. Supplementary. Why did they're focused on fixing this. Supplementary. Why did Helen Supplementary. Why did Helen O'Sullivan Supplementary. Why did Helen O'Sullivan resign Supplementary. Why did Helen O'Sullivan resign from Supplementary. Why did Helen O'Sullivan resign from the Supplementary. Why did Helen O'Sullivan resign from the Kainga O'Sullivan resign from the Kainga Ora O'Sullivan resign from the Kainga Ora board O'Sullivan resign from the Kainga Ora board in O'Sullivan resign from the Kainga Ora board in November, O'Sullivan resign from the Kainga Ora board in November, shortly O'Sullivan resign from the Kainga Ora board in November, shortly after Ora board in November, shortly after these Ora board in November, shortly after these issues Ora board in November, shortly after these issues became Ora board in November, shortly after these issues became public, Ora board in November, shortly after these issues became public, and Ora board in November, shortly after these issues became public, and just these issues became public, and just nine these issues became public, and just nine months these issues became public, and just nine months into these issues became public, and just nine months into the these issues became public, and just nine months into the job? these issues became public, and just nine months into the job? And these issues became public, and just nine months into the job? And does nine months into the job? And does she nine months into the job? And does she minister nine months into the job? And does she minister share nine months into the job? And does she minister share my nine months into the job? And does she minister share my concern nine months into the job? And does she minister share my concern that she minister share my concern that O'Sullivan she minister share my concern that O'Sullivan left she minister share my concern that O'Sullivan left because she minister share my concern that O'Sullivan left because she she minister share my concern that O'Sullivan left because she no O'Sullivan left because she no longer O'Sullivan left because she no longer wanted O'Sullivan left because she no longer wanted to O'Sullivan left because she no longer wanted to be O'Sullivan left because she no longer wanted to be associated O'Sullivan left because she no longer wanted to be associated with longer wanted to be associated with this longer wanted to be associated with this failing longer wanted to be associated with this failing organisation? longer wanted to be associated with this failing organisation? Mr this failing organisation? Mr Speaker, this failing organisation? Mr Speaker, in this failing organisation? 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I don't reject the assertion the member has made. I don't have reject the assertion the member has made. I don't have to reject the assertion the member has made. I don't have to make made. I don't have to make assumptions made. I don't have to make assumptions because made. I don't have to make assumptions because I made. I don't have to make assumptions because I was made. I don't have to make assumptions because I was told made. I don't have to make assumptions because I was told my assumptions because I was told my Helen assumptions because I was told my Helen O'Sullivan assumptions because I was told my Helen O'Sullivan myself assumptions because I was told my Helen O'Sullivan myself and Helen O'Sullivan myself and communicated Helen O'Sullivan myself and communicated also Helen O'Sullivan myself and communicated also through Helen O'Sullivan myself and communicated also through the Helen O'Sullivan myself and communicated also through the chair communicated also through the chair she communicated also through the chair she had communicated also through the chair she had accepted communicated also through the chair she had accepted another communicated also through the chair she had accepted another board she had accepted another board appointment she had accepted another board appointment which she had accepted another board appointment which was she had accepted another board appointment which was in she had accepted another board appointment which was in conflict appointment which was in conflict with appointment which was in conflict with her appointment which was in conflict with her role appointment which was in conflict with her role on appointment which was in conflict with her role on the appointment which was in conflict with her role on the Kainga appointment which was in conflict with her role on the Kainga Ora with her role on the Kainga Ora board. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Workplace My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations and My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety: My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety: Will Workplace Relations and Safety: Will he Workplace Relations and Safety: Will he introduce Workplace Relations and Safety: Will he introduce a Workplace Relations and Safety: Will he introduce a comprehensive Workplace Relations and Safety: Will he introduce a comprehensive pay he introduce a comprehensive pay transparency he introduce a comprehensive pay transparency model he introduce a comprehensive pay transparency model to he introduce a comprehensive pay transparency model to help he introduce a comprehensive pay transparency model to help eliminate transparency model to help eliminate pay transparency model to help eliminate pay discrimination transparency model to help eliminate pay discrimination before transparency model to help eliminate pay discrimination before the transparency model to help eliminate pay discrimination before the end transparency model to help eliminate pay discrimination before the end of pay discrimination before the end of this pay discrimination before the end of this parliamentary pay discrimination before the end of this parliamentary term; pay discrimination before the end of this parliamentary term; if pay discrimination before the end of this parliamentary term; if not, pay discrimination before the end of this parliamentary term; if not, why this parliamentary term; if not, why not? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, I Mr Speaker, I thank Mr Speaker, I thank the Mr Speaker, I thank the member Mr Speaker, I thank the member for Mr Speaker, I thank the member for her Mr Speaker, I thank the member for her question. Mr Speaker, I thank the member for her question. The Mr Speaker, I thank the member for her question. The Government Mr Speaker, I thank the member for her question. The Government is her question. The Government is committed her question. The Government is committed to her question. The Government is committed to eliminating her question. The Government is committed to eliminating pay committed to eliminating pay discrimination committed to eliminating pay discrimination in committed to eliminating pay discrimination in Aotearoa committed to eliminating pay discrimination in Aotearoa New discrimination in Aotearoa New Zealand, discrimination in Aotearoa New Zealand, and discrimination in Aotearoa New Zealand, and making discrimination in Aotearoa New Zealand, and making it discrimination in Aotearoa New Zealand, and making it easier discrimination in Aotearoa New Zealand, and making it easier for Zealand, and making it easier for women Zealand, and making it easier for women to Zealand, and making it easier for women to achieve Zealand, and making it easier for women to achieve pay Zealand, and making it easier for women to achieve pay equity. Zealand, and making it easier for women to achieve pay equity. We Zealand, and making it easier for women to achieve pay equity. We made women to achieve pay equity. We made good women to achieve pay equity. We made good progress women to achieve pay equity. We made good progress towards women to achieve pay equity. We made good progress towards the women to achieve pay equity. We made good progress towards the aims. women to achieve pay equity. We made good progress towards the aims. We good progress towards the aims. We passed good progress towards the aims. We passed the good progress towards the aims. We passed the equal good progress towards the aims. We passed the equal pay good progress towards the aims. We passed the equal pay act good progress towards the aims. We passed the equal pay act in good progress towards the aims. We passed the equal pay act in 2020 good progress towards the aims. 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The Education and Workforce Select Committee will be Workforce Select Committee will be reporting Workforce Select Committee will be reporting the Workforce Select Committee will be reporting the findings Workforce Select Committee will be reporting the findings of Workforce Select Committee will be reporting the findings of its reporting the findings of its briefing reporting the findings of its briefing on reporting the findings of its briefing on pay reporting the findings of its briefing on pay transparency reporting the findings of its briefing on pay transparency back reporting the findings of its briefing on pay transparency back to briefing on pay transparency back to the briefing on pay transparency back to the House. briefing on pay transparency back to the House. Following briefing on pay transparency back to the House. Following this, briefing on pay transparency back to the House. Following this, the the House. Following this, the Government the House. 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My question is, will the minister grant Ukraine visa Mr Speaker. My question is, will the minister grant Ukraine visa waiver minister grant Ukraine visa waiver status minister grant Ukraine visa waiver status as minister grant Ukraine visa waiver status as Canada minister grant Ukraine visa waiver status as Canada has minister grant Ukraine visa waiver status as Canada has done, minister grant Ukraine visa waiver status as Canada has done, to minister grant Ukraine visa waiver status as Canada has done, to enable status as Canada has done, to enable the status as Canada has done, to enable the prompt status as Canada has done, to enable the prompt reunification status as Canada has done, to enable the prompt reunification of status as Canada has done, to enable the prompt reunification of families the prompt reunification of families and the prompt reunification of families and give the prompt reunification of families and give safe the prompt reunification of families and give safe passage the prompt reunification of families and give safe passage for the prompt reunification of families and give safe passage for Ukrainians and give safe passage for Ukrainians fleeing and give safe passage for Ukrainians fleeing war? and give safe passage for Ukrainians fleeing war? 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Firstly, the Government has introduced measures to improve has introduced measures to improve household has introduced measures to improve household incomes has introduced measures to improve household incomes including household incomes including increasing household incomes including increasing working household incomes including increasing working for household incomes including increasing working for families household incomes including increasing working for families tax increasing working for families tax credits increasing working for families tax credits and increasing working for families tax credits and raising increasing working for families tax credits and raising both increasing working for families tax credits and raising both the increasing working for families tax credits and raising both the minimum credits and raising both the minimum wage credits and raising both the minimum wage and credits and raising both the minimum wage and benefit credits and raising both the minimum wage and benefit rates, credits and raising both the minimum wage and benefit rates, indexing wage and benefit rates, indexing benefits wage and benefit rates, indexing benefits annually wage and benefit rates, indexing benefits annually to wage and benefit rates, indexing benefits annually to increases wage and benefit rates, indexing benefits annually to increases in benefits annually to increases in wages benefits annually to increases in wages and benefits annually to increases in wages and increasing benefits annually to increases in wages and increasing the wages and increasing the accommodation wages and increasing the accommodation supplement wages and increasing the accommodation supplement from wages and increasing the accommodation supplement from 1 accommodation supplement from 1 April accommodation supplement from 1 April 2018. accommodation supplement from 1 April 2018. 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Secondly the Government has taken steps to improve life for has taken steps to improve life for renters has taken steps to improve life for renters and has taken steps to improve life for renters and this has taken steps to improve life for renters and this includes renters and this includes implementing renters and this includes implementing the renters and this includes implementing the healthy renters and this includes implementing the healthy homes implementing the healthy homes Standard, implementing the healthy homes Standard, limiting implementing the healthy homes Standard, limiting rent implementing the healthy homes Standard, limiting rent increases implementing the healthy homes Standard, limiting rent increases to Standard, limiting rent increases to once Standard, limiting rent increases to once per Standard, limiting rent increases to once per year, Standard, limiting rent increases to once per year, prohibiting Standard, limiting rent increases to once per year, prohibiting landlords once per year, prohibiting landlords from once per year, prohibiting landlords from seek once per year, prohibiting landlords from seek rental once per year, prohibiting landlords from seek rental bids, once per year, prohibiting landlords from seek rental bids, banning from seek rental bids, banning letting from seek rental bids, banning letting fee, from seek rental bids, banning letting fee, improving from seek rental bids, banning letting fee, improving security from seek rental bids, banning letting fee, improving security of letting fee, improving security of tenure letting fee, improving security of tenure by letting fee, improving security of tenure by abolishing letting fee, improving security of tenure by abolishing non-cause tenure by abolishing non-cause terminations tenure by abolishing non-cause terminations and tenure by abolishing non-cause terminations and these tenure by abolishing non-cause terminations and these are tenure by abolishing non-cause terminations and these are in terminations and these are in addition terminations and these are in addition to terminations and these are in addition to the terminations and these are in addition to the measures terminations and these are in addition to the measures the addition to the measures the Government addition to the measures the Government is addition to the measures the Government is taking addition to the measures the Government is taking to addition to the measures the Government is taking to actually Government is taking to actually address Government is taking to actually address the Government is taking to actually address the underlying Government is taking to actually address the underlying causes Government is taking to actually address the underlying causes of Government is taking to actually address the underlying causes of the address the underlying causes of the housing address the underlying causes of the housing crisis address the underlying causes of the housing crisis previous address the underlying causes of the housing crisis previous Governments housing crisis previous Governments shied housing crisis previous Governments shied away housing crisis previous Governments shied away from. housing crisis previous Governments shied away from. 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What impact, if any, does the minister impact, if any, does the minister believe impact, if any, does the minister believe limiting impact, if any, does the minister believe limiting interest believe limiting interest deductibility believe limiting interest deductibility will believe limiting interest deductibility will have believe limiting interest deductibility will have on believe limiting interest deductibility will have on tenants deductibility will have on tenants and deductibility will have on tenants and their deductibility will have on tenants and their cost deductibility will have on tenants and their cost of deductibility will have on tenants and their cost of living deductibility will have on tenants and their cost of living when deductibility will have on tenants and their cost of living when the and their cost of living when the average and their cost of living when the average landlord's and their cost of living when the average landlord's tax and their cost of living when the average landlord's tax bill and their cost of living when the average landlord's tax bill is average landlord's tax bill is expected average landlord's tax bill is expected to average landlord's tax bill is expected to go average landlord's tax bill is expected to go up average landlord's tax bill is expected to go up $4,000? average landlord's tax bill is expected to go up $4,000? 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I'd like to compare that from the period 16.4%. I'd like to compare that from the period August 16.4%. I'd like to compare that from the period August 2013 16.4%. I'd like to compare that from the period August 2013 to 16.4%. I'd like to compare that from the period August 2013 to October the period August 2013 to October 2017 the period August 2013 to October 2017 under the period August 2013 to October 2017 under a the period August 2013 to October 2017 under a National-ACT the period August 2013 to October 2017 under a National-ACT Government 2017 under a National-ACT Government where 2017 under a National-ACT Government where we 2017 under a National-ACT Government where we also 2017 under a National-ACT Government where we also saw 2017 under a National-ACT Government where we also saw an 2017 under a National-ACT Government where we also saw an increase 2017 under a National-ACT Government where we also saw an increase of where we also saw an increase of 16.4% where we also saw an increase of 16.4% so where we also saw an increase of 16.4% so I where we also saw an increase of 16.4% so I caution where we also saw an increase of 16.4% so I caution the where we also saw an increase of 16.4% so I caution the member where we also saw an increase of 16.4% so I caution the member with 16.4% so I caution the member with conflating 16.4% so I caution the member with conflating correlation 16.4% so I caution the member with conflating correlation and conflating correlation and causation. conflating correlation and causation. Supplementary. conflating correlation and causation. Supplementary. Does conflating correlation and causation. Supplementary. Does the causation. Supplementary. Does the minister causation. Supplementary. Does the minister believe causation. Supplementary. Does the minister believe that causation. Supplementary. Does the minister believe that continuing minister believe that continuing with minister believe that continuing with interest minister believe that continuing with interest deductibility with interest deductibility limitations with interest deductibility limitations which with interest deductibility limitations which Inland with interest deductibility limitations which Inland Revenue limitations which Inland Revenue stated limitations which Inland Revenue stated in limitations which Inland Revenue stated in September limitations which Inland Revenue stated in September last limitations which Inland Revenue stated in September last year limitations which Inland Revenue stated in September last year would stated in September last year would "put stated in September last year would "put upward stated in September last year would "put upward pressure stated in September last year would "put upward pressure on stated in September last year would "put upward pressure on rents" stated in September last year would "put upward pressure on rents" can "put upward pressure on rents" can be "put upward pressure on rents" can be justified "put upward pressure on rents" can be justified now "put upward pressure on rents" can be justified now when "put upward pressure on rents" can be justified now when inflation "put upward pressure on rents" can be justified now when inflation is be justified now when inflation is at be justified now when inflation is at its be justified now when inflation is at its highest be justified now when inflation is at its highest level be justified now when inflation is at its highest level in be justified now when inflation is at its highest level in 30 be justified now when inflation is at its highest level in 30 years? be justified now when inflation is at its highest level in 30 years? 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We suite of policies to address this very long-run problem. We can suite of policies to address this very long-run problem. We can point very long-run problem. We can point to very long-run problem. We can point to markets very long-run problem. We can point to markets where very long-run problem. We can point to markets where we very long-run problem. We can point to markets where we are very long-run problem. We can point to markets where we are seeing to markets where we are seeing increased to markets where we are seeing increased supply to markets where we are seeing increased supply of to markets where we are seeing increased supply of housing to markets where we are seeing increased supply of housing coming increased supply of housing coming on increased supply of housing coming on stream, increased supply of housing coming on stream, seeing increased supply of housing coming on stream, seeing lower increased supply of housing coming on stream, seeing lower rates increased supply of housing coming on stream, seeing lower rates of on stream, seeing lower rates of rental on stream, seeing lower rates of rental increase. on stream, seeing lower rates of rental increase. So on stream, seeing lower rates of rental increase. So if on stream, seeing lower rates of rental increase. So if we on stream, seeing lower rates of rental increase. 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What we see across New Zealand is an annual 5.5% across New Zealand is an annual 5.5% rent across New Zealand is an annual 5.5% rent increase across New Zealand is an annual 5.5% rent increase but across New Zealand is an annual 5.5% rent increase but when across New Zealand is an annual 5.5% rent increase but when we across New Zealand is an annual 5.5% rent increase but when we look across New Zealand is an annual 5.5% rent increase but when we look at rent increase but when we look at Auckland rent increase but when we look at Auckland on rent increase but when we look at Auckland on its rent increase but when we look at Auckland on its own rent increase but when we look at Auckland on its own that rent increase but when we look at Auckland on its own that is rent increase but when we look at Auckland on its own that is 3%. rent increase but when we look at Auckland on its own that is 3%. This Auckland on its own that is 3%. This is Auckland on its own that is 3%. This is a Auckland on its own that is 3%. This is a market Auckland on its own that is 3%. This is a market where Auckland on its own that is 3%. This is a market where the Auckland on its own that is 3%. This is a market where the Government's is a market where the Government's policies is a market where the Government's policies around is a market where the Government's policies around increasing is a market where the Government's policies around increasing housing policies around increasing housing supply policies around increasing housing supply are policies around increasing housing supply are really policies around increasing housing supply are really starting policies around increasing housing supply are really starting to policies around increasing housing supply are really starting to come supply are really starting to come to supply are really starting to come to fruition. supply are really starting to come to fruition. 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Can the minister accept that interest minister accept that interest deductibility minister accept that interest deductibility limitations minister accept that interest deductibility limitations for deductibility limitations for rentals deductibility limitations for rentals will deductibility limitations for rentals will further deductibility limitations for rentals will further increase deductibility limitations for rentals will further increase the rentals will further increase the cost rentals will further increase the cost of rentals will further increase the cost of renting rentals will further increase the cost of renting at rentals will further increase the cost of renting at a rentals will further increase the cost of renting at a time rentals will further increase the cost of renting at a time when rentals will further increase the cost of renting at a time when new cost of renting at a time when new leases cost of renting at a time when new leases are cost of renting at a time when new leases are over cost of renting at a time when new leases are over 5% cost of renting at a time when new leases are over 5% higher cost of renting at a time when new leases are over 5% higher on cost of renting at a time when new leases are over 5% higher on average leases are over 5% higher on average than leases are over 5% higher on average than last leases are over 5% higher on average than last year leases are over 5% higher on average than last year and leases are over 5% higher on average than last year and inflation's leases are over 5% higher on average than last year and inflation's at leases are over 5% higher on average than last year and inflation's at a than last year and inflation's at a 30-year than last year and inflation's at a 30-year high than last year and inflation's at a 30-year high and than last year and inflation's at a 30-year high and if than last year and inflation's at a 30-year high and if not, than last year and inflation's at a 30-year high and if not, what than last year and inflation's at a 30-year high and if not, what does 30-year high and if not, what does she 30-year high and if not, what does she say 30-year high and if not, what does she say to 30-year high and if not, what does she say to economists 30-year high and if not, what does she say to economists and 30-year high and if not, what does she say to economists and renters she say to economists and renters who she say to economists and renters who know she say to economists and renters who know it she say to economists and renters who know it will? she say to economists and renters who know it will? Mr she say to economists and renters who know it will? Mr Speaker, she say to economists and renters who know it will? Mr Speaker, on who know it will? Mr Speaker, on behalf who know it will? Mr Speaker, on behalf of who know it will? Mr Speaker, on behalf of the who know it will? Mr Speaker, on behalf of the minister, who know it will? Mr Speaker, on behalf of the minister, I who know it will? Mr Speaker, on behalf of the minister, I point who know it will? 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This will connect people to abortion information, advice and abortion information, advice and counselling abortion information, advice and counselling over abortion information, advice and counselling over the abortion information, advice and counselling over the phone abortion information, advice and counselling over the phone from counselling over the phone from health counselling over the phone from health practitioners counselling over the phone from health practitioners anywhere counselling over the phone from health practitioners anywhere in counselling over the phone from health practitioners anywhere in the health practitioners anywhere in the country. health practitioners anywhere in the country. Why health practitioners anywhere in the country. Why do health practitioners anywhere in the country. Why do we health practitioners anywhere in the country. Why do we need health practitioners anywhere in the country. Why do we need a health practitioners anywhere in the country. Why do we need a national country. Why do we need a national abortion country. Why do we need a national abortion telehealth country. Why do we need a national abortion telehealth service? abortion telehealth service? In-person abortion telehealth service? In-person care abortion telehealth service? In-person care will abortion telehealth service? In-person care will always abortion telehealth service? In-person care will always be In-person care will always be offered In-person care will always be offered for In-person care will always be offered for abortion In-person care will always be offered for abortion but In-person care will always be offered for abortion but it In-person care will always be offered for abortion but it is offered for abortion but it is important offered for abortion but it is important that offered for abortion but it is important that other offered for abortion but it is important that other options offered for abortion but it is important that other options are important that other options are available important that other options are available as important that other options are available as well important that other options are available as well where important that other options are available as well where suitable. available as well where suitable. Telehealth available as well where suitable. Telehealth makes available as well where suitable. Telehealth makes it available as well where suitable. Telehealth makes it easier available as well where suitable. 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