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Question date, then I suggest the member get a briefing. Question No. date, then I suggest the member get a briefing. Question No. 3, date, then I suggest the member get a briefing. Question No. 3, Angie a briefing. Question No. 3, Angie Warren-Clark. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Energy My question is to the Minister of Energy and My question is to the Minister of Energy and Resources: My question is to the Minister of Energy and Resources: What My question is to the Minister of Energy and Resources: What action My question is to the Minister of Energy and Resources: What action is Energy and Resources: What action is the Energy and Resources: What action is the Government Energy and Resources: What action is the Government taking Energy and Resources: What action is the Government taking to Energy and Resources: What action is the Government taking to support the Government taking to support businesses the Government taking to support businesses to the Government taking to support businesses to cut the Government taking to support businesses to cut their the Government taking to support businesses to cut their emissions? The The Honourable The Honourable Dr The Honourable Dr Megan The Honourable Dr Megan Woods. The Honourable Dr Megan Woods. And The Honourable Dr Megan Woods. And can The Honourable Dr Megan Woods. And can I The Honourable Dr Megan Woods. And can I ask The Honourable Dr Megan Woods. And can I ask Mr The Honourable Dr Megan Woods. And can I ask Mr Seymour The Honourable Dr Megan Woods. And can I ask Mr Seymour to The Honourable Dr Megan Woods. And can I ask Mr Seymour to speak The Honourable Dr Megan Woods. And can I ask Mr Seymour to speak a can I ask Mr Seymour to speak a little can I ask Mr Seymour to speak a little more can I ask Mr Seymour to speak a little more quietly can I ask Mr Seymour to speak a little more quietly on can I ask Mr Seymour to speak a little more quietly on his can I ask Mr Seymour to speak a little more quietly on his phone. can I ask Mr Seymour to speak a little more quietly on his phone. Mr little more quietly on his phone. 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We are building more houses 2017. We are building more houses than 2017. We are building more houses than ever 2017. We are building more houses than ever before 2017. We are building more houses than ever before and 2017. We are building more houses than ever before and delivering 2017. We are building more houses than ever before and delivering the than ever before and delivering the homes than ever before and delivering the homes that than ever before and delivering the homes that New than ever before and delivering the homes that New Zealand than ever before and delivering the homes that New Zealand whanau than ever before and delivering the homes that New Zealand whanau need. homes that New Zealand whanau need. This homes that New Zealand whanau need. This is homes that New Zealand whanau need. This is reflected homes that New Zealand whanau need. This is reflected in homes that New Zealand whanau need. This is reflected in the homes that New Zealand whanau need. 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In March 2022 we saw consent Ford construction. In March 2022 we saw 2,172 consent Ford construction. In March 2022 we saw 2,172 townhouses, consent Ford construction. In March 2022 we saw 2,172 townhouses, flats 2022 we saw 2,172 townhouses, flats and 2022 we saw 2,172 townhouses, flats and units 2022 we saw 2,172 townhouses, flats and units consented 2022 we saw 2,172 townhouses, flats and units consented as 2022 we saw 2,172 townhouses, flats and units consented as well 2022 we saw 2,172 townhouses, flats and units consented as well as 2022 we saw 2,172 townhouses, flats and units consented as well as 616 and units consented as well as 616 part and units consented as well as 616 part buildings. and units consented as well as 616 part buildings. These and units consented as well as 616 part buildings. These are and units consented as well as 616 part buildings. These are both and units consented as well as 616 part buildings. These are both well part buildings. 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In the year to March, the workforce added year to March, the workforce added 13,225 year to March, the workforce added 13,225 more year to March, the workforce added 13,225 more jobs year to March, the workforce added 13,225 more jobs and year to March, the workforce added 13,225 more jobs and is year to March, the workforce added 13,225 more jobs and is continuing 13,225 more jobs and is continuing to 13,225 more jobs and is continuing to grow 13,225 more jobs and is continuing to grow with 13,225 more jobs and is continuing to grow with 30,000 13,225 more jobs and is continuing to grow with 30,000 people 13,225 more jobs and is continuing to grow with 30,000 people supported to grow with 30,000 people supported grow to grow with 30,000 people supported into construction related to grow with 30,000 people supported into construction related education into construction related education or into construction related education or employment into construction related education or employment opportunities into construction related education or employment opportunities through or employment opportunities through the or employment opportunities through the construction or employment opportunities through the construction skills or employment opportunities through the construction skills action or employment opportunities through the construction skills action plan. the construction skills action plan. 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Mr benefit from the cuts in the fuel excise duty. Mr Speaker, benefit from the cuts in the fuel excise duty. Mr Speaker, we benefit from the cuts in the fuel excise duty. Mr Speaker, we always excise duty. Mr Speaker, we always have excise duty. Mr Speaker, we always have to excise duty. Mr Speaker, we always have to get excise duty. Mr Speaker, we always have to get a excise duty. Mr Speaker, we always have to get a balance excise duty. Mr Speaker, we always have to get a balance right excise duty. Mr Speaker, we always have to get a balance right here. have to get a balance right here. There have to get a balance right here. There is have to get a balance right here. There is no have to get a balance right here. There is no free have to get a balance right here. There is no free lunch. have to get a balance right here. There is no free lunch. If have to get a balance right here. There is no free lunch. If we have to get a balance right here. There is no free lunch. 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Does he believe a family receiving an believe a family receiving an average believe a family receiving an average household believe a family receiving an average household income believe a family receiving an average household income is believe a family receiving an average household income is too believe a family receiving an average household income is too rich average household income is too rich to average household income is too rich to deserve average household income is too rich to deserve income average household income is too rich to deserve income tax average household income is too rich to deserve income tax relief? average household income is too rich to deserve income tax relief? Mr to deserve income tax relief? Mr Speaker, to deserve income tax relief? Mr Speaker, I to deserve income tax relief? Mr Speaker, I believe to deserve income tax relief? Mr Speaker, I believe that to deserve income tax relief? Mr Speaker, I believe that all Speaker, I believe that all households Speaker, I believe that all households in Speaker, I believe that all households in New Speaker, I believe that all households in New Zealand Speaker, I believe that all households in New Zealand deserve households in New Zealand deserve quality households in New Zealand deserve quality public households in New Zealand deserve quality public services, households in New Zealand deserve quality public services, a households in New Zealand deserve quality public services, a good quality public services, a good health quality public services, a good health system, quality public services, a good health system, schools, quality public services, a good health system, schools, housing, health system, schools, housing, make health system, schools, housing, make our health system, schools, housing, make our we health system, schools, housing, make our we have health system, schools, housing, make our we have transport health system, schools, housing, make our we have transport routes health system, schools, housing, make our we have transport routes in make our we have transport routes in place. make our we have transport routes in place. 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Supplementary. cost of public transport. Supplementary. The cost of public transport. Supplementary. The Hon cost of public transport. Supplementary. The Hon Chris Supplementary. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Supplementary. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Has Supplementary. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Has the Supplementary. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Has the Minister Supplementary. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Has the Minister of Supplementary. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Has the Minister of Finance Hipkins. Has the Minister of Finance received Hipkins. Has the Minister of Finance received advice Hipkins. Has the Minister of Finance received advice that Hipkins. Has the Minister of Finance received advice that the Hipkins. Has the Minister of Finance received advice that the squeeze Hipkins. Has the Minister of Finance received advice that the squeeze e received advice that the squeeze e middle received advice that the squeeze e middle starts received advice that the squeeze e middle starts at received advice that the squeeze e middle starts at earning received advice that the squeeze e middle starts at earning bracket received advice that the squeeze e middle starts at earning bracket of middle starts at earning bracket of $150,000 middle starts at earning bracket of $150,000 a middle starts at earning bracket of $150,000 a year? middle starts at earning bracket of $150,000 a year? <INTERRUPTION> $150,000 a year? <INTERRUPTION> No, $150,000 a year? <INTERRUPTION> No, I $150,000 a year? <INTERRUPTION> No, I haven't $150,000 a year? <INTERRUPTION> No, I haven't seen $150,000 a year? <INTERRUPTION> No, I haven't seen those, $150,000 a year? <INTERRUPTION> No, I haven't seen those, but $150,000 a year? <INTERRUPTION> No, I haven't seen those, but I $150,000 a year? <INTERRUPTION> No, I haven't seen those, but I have No, I haven't seen those, but I have seen No, I haven't seen those, but I have seen a No, I haven't seen those, but I have seen a proposal No, I haven't seen those, but I have seen a proposal seeing No, I haven't seen those, but I have seen a proposal seeing those No, I haven't seen those, but I have seen a proposal seeing those earning seen a proposal seeing those earning more seen a proposal seeing those earning more than seen a proposal seeing those earning more than $100,000 seen a proposal seeing those earning more than $100,000 a seen a proposal seeing those earning more than $100,000 a year, seen a proposal seeing those earning more than $100,000 a year, getting more than $100,000 a year, getting thousands more than $100,000 a year, getting thousands of more than $100,000 a year, getting thousands of tax more than $100,000 a year, getting thousands of tax cuts more than $100,000 a year, getting thousands of tax cuts but more than $100,000 a year, getting thousands of tax cuts but someone thousands of tax cuts but someone earning thousands of tax cuts but someone earning $40,000 thousands of tax cuts but someone earning $40,000 getting thousands of tax cuts but someone earning $40,000 getting $2 thousands of tax cuts but someone earning $40,000 getting $2 a thousands of tax cuts but someone earning $40,000 getting $2 a week. earning $40,000 getting $2 a week. 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Supplementary. Why rising in housing prices. Supplementary. Why won't rising in housing prices. Supplementary. Why won't he rising in housing prices. Supplementary. Why won't he simply Supplementary. Why won't he simply give Supplementary. Why won't he simply give some Supplementary. Why won't he simply give some of Supplementary. Why won't he simply give some of the Supplementary. Why won't he simply give some of the additional Supplementary. 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We know the damage done if we don't fix school buildings so if we don't fix school buildings so children if we don't fix school buildings so children are if we don't fix school buildings so children are learning if we don't fix school buildings so children are learning in if we don't fix school buildings so children are learning in cold, if we don't fix school buildings so children are learning in cold, damp children are learning in cold, damp environments. children are learning in cold, damp environments. It children are learning in cold, damp environments. It is children are learning in cold, damp environments. It is always children are learning in cold, damp environments. It is always about environments. It is always about getting environments. It is always about getting the environments. It is always about getting the balance environments. It is always about getting the balance right. environments. It is always about getting the balance right. On environments. It is always about getting the balance right. On this getting the balance right. On this side getting the balance right. On this side of getting the balance right. On this side of the getting the balance right. On this side of the House, getting the balance right. On this side of the House, we getting the balance right. On this side of the House, we believe getting the balance right. 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What supporting those on low and middle incomes. What is supporting those on low and middle incomes. What is not supporting those on low and middle incomes. What is not getting supporting those on low and middle incomes. What is not getting the incomes. What is not getting the balance incomes. What is not getting the balance right incomes. What is not getting the balance right is incomes. What is not getting the balance right is giving incomes. What is not getting the balance right is giving tax incomes. What is not getting the balance right is giving tax cuts incomes. 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That the minimum wage is two bucks better off. That is the minimum wage is two bucks better off. That is unfair, the minimum wage is two bucks better off. That is unfair, isn't the minimum wage is two bucks better off. That is unfair, isn't a the minimum wage is two bucks better off. That is unfair, isn't a good off. That is unfair, isn't a good use off. That is unfair, isn't a good use of off. That is unfair, isn't a good use of resources. off. That is unfair, isn't a good use of resources. Question off. That is unfair, isn't a good use of resources. Question No. off. That is unfair, isn't a good use of resources. Question No. 7. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Local My question is to the Minister of Local Government: My question is to the Minister of Local Government: Will My question is to the Minister of Local Government: Will the My question is to the Minister of Local Government: Will the Three Local Government: Will the Three Waters Local Government: Will the Three Waters reforms Local Government: Will the Three Waters reforms benefit Local Government: Will the Three Waters reforms benefit smaller Waters reforms benefit smaller communities Waters reforms benefit smaller communities - Waters reforms benefit smaller communities - if Waters reforms benefit smaller communities - if so, Waters reforms benefit smaller communities - if so, how? The The Hon The Hon Nanaia The Hon Nanaia Mahuta. The Hon Nanaia Mahuta. Mr The Hon Nanaia Mahuta. Mr Speaker, The Hon Nanaia Mahuta. Mr Speaker, yes. The Hon Nanaia Mahuta. Mr Speaker, yes. The The Hon Nanaia Mahuta. Mr Speaker, yes. The reforms The Hon Nanaia Mahuta. Mr Speaker, yes. The reforms will The Hon Nanaia Mahuta. Mr Speaker, yes. The reforms will deliver The Hon Nanaia Mahuta. Mr Speaker, yes. The reforms will deliver the yes. The reforms will deliver the benefits yes. The reforms will deliver the benefits from yes. The reforms will deliver the benefits from scale yes. The reforms will deliver the benefits from scale scale yes. The reforms will deliver the benefits from scale scale in benefits from scale scale in aggregation benefits from scale scale in aggregation primarily benefits from scale scale in aggregation primarily by benefits from scale scale in aggregation primarily by leveraging aggregation primarily by leveraging waters aggregation primarily by leveraging waters infrastructure aggregation primarily by leveraging waters infrastructure across aggregation primarily by leveraging waters infrastructure across large waters infrastructure across large regions waters infrastructure across large regions to waters infrastructure across large regions to finance waters infrastructure across large regions to finance infrastructure regions to finance infrastructure investment regions to finance infrastructure investment and regions to finance infrastructure investment and improve regions to finance infrastructure investment and improve water investment and improve water services investment and improve water services to investment and improve water services to all investment and improve water services to all communities investment and improve water services to all communities and services to all communities and especially services to all communities and especially small services to all communities and especially small communities. services to all communities and especially small communities. In especially small communities. In Nelson, especially small communities. In Nelson, for especially small communities. In Nelson, for example, especially small communities. In Nelson, for example, over especially small communities. In Nelson, for example, over the especially small communities. 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With reform, increase by $2,330 per household. With reform, households increase by $2,330 per household. With reform, households will increase by $2,330 per household. With reform, households will be With reform, households will be paying With reform, households will be paying instead With reform, households will be paying instead $1,260. With reform, households will be paying instead $1,260. Let's With reform, households will be paying instead $1,260. Let's look paying instead $1,260. Let's look next paying instead $1,260. Let's look next door, paying instead $1,260. Let's look next door, to paying instead $1,260. Let's look next door, to Malgra. paying instead $1,260. Let's look next door, to Malgra. The paying instead $1,260. Let's look next door, to Malgra. The forecast next door, to Malgra. The forecast increase next door, to Malgra. The forecast increase in next door, to Malgra. The forecast increase in cost next door, to Malgra. The forecast increase in cost to next door, to Malgra. The forecast increase in cost to households increase in cost to households without increase in cost to households without reform increase in cost to households without reform will increase in cost to households without reform will be increase in cost to households without reform will be $6,560 increase in cost to households without reform will be $6,560 over without reform will be $6,560 over the without reform will be $6,560 over the next without reform will be $6,560 over the next 30 without reform will be $6,560 over the next 30 years. without reform will be $6,560 over the next 30 years. In without reform will be $6,560 over the next 30 years. In contrast without reform will be $6,560 over the next 30 years. In contrast to the next 30 years. In contrast to with the next 30 years. In contrast to with reform, the next 30 years. In contrast to with reform, $1,260 the next 30 years. 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What will Operation Cobaldt - Cobalt What will Operation Cobaldt - Cobalt mean What will Operation Cobaldt - Cobalt mean for What will Operation Cobaldt - Cobalt mean for the What will Operation Cobaldt - Cobalt mean for the operation What will Operation Cobaldt - Cobalt mean for the operation under What will Operation Cobaldt - Cobalt mean for the operation under way? mean for the operation under way? The mean for the operation under way? The operation mean for the operation under way? The operation is mean for the operation under way? The operation is the mean for the operation under way? The operation is the next mean for the operation under way? The operation is the next phase mean for the operation under way? 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There's 300 additional crime staff deployed additional crime staff deployed since additional crime staff deployed since 2017, additional crime staff deployed since 2017, with additional crime staff deployed since 2017, with an additional crime staff deployed since 2017, with an additional additional crime staff deployed since 2017, with an additional 400 since 2017, with an additional 400 to since 2017, with an additional 400 to be since 2017, with an additional 400 to be deployed since 2017, with an additional 400 to be deployed June since 2017, with an additional 400 to be deployed June next since 2017, with an additional 400 to be deployed June next year. since 2017, with an additional 400 to be deployed June next year. What to be deployed June next year. What other to be deployed June next year. What other reports to be deployed June next year. What other reports has to be deployed June next year. What other reports has she to be deployed June next year. What other reports has she seen to be deployed June next year. What other reports has she seen regarding other reports has she seen regarding police other reports has she seen regarding police efforts other reports has she seen regarding police efforts targeting other reports has she seen regarding police efforts targeting gangs other reports has she seen regarding police efforts targeting gangs and police efforts targeting gangs and organised police efforts targeting gangs and organised crime? police efforts targeting gangs and organised crime? Mr police efforts targeting gangs and organised crime? Mr Speaker, police efforts targeting gangs and organised crime? Mr Speaker, I police efforts targeting gangs and organised crime? Mr Speaker, I saw organised crime? Mr Speaker, I saw another organised crime? Mr Speaker, I saw another report organised crime? Mr Speaker, I saw another report in organised crime? Mr Speaker, I saw another report in March organised crime? Mr Speaker, I saw another report in March this organised crime? Mr Speaker, I saw another report in March this year, another report in March this year, the another report in March this year, the Police another report in March this year, the Police Asset another report in March this year, the Police Asset Recovery another report in March this year, the Police Asset Recovery Unit the Police Asset Recovery Unit seized the Police Asset Recovery Unit seized a the Police Asset Recovery Unit seized a number the Police Asset Recovery Unit seized a number of the Police Asset Recovery Unit seized a number of assets the Police Asset Recovery Unit seized a number of assets and the Police Asset Recovery Unit seized a number of assets and bank seized a number of assets and bank account seized a number of assets and bank account funds seized a number of assets and bank account funds a seized a number of assets and bank account funds a combined seized a number of assets and bank account funds a combined value seized a number of assets and bank account funds a combined value of account funds a combined value of more account funds a combined value of more than account funds a combined value of more than $7 account funds a combined value of more than $7 billion. account funds a combined value of more than $7 billion. Four more than $7 billion. Four properties, more than $7 billion. Four properties, a more than $7 billion. Four properties, a Lambourghini more than $7 billion. Four properties, a Lambourghini Hurricane properties, a Lambourghini Hurricane and properties, a Lambourghini Hurricane and a properties, a Lambourghini Hurricane and a Ferrari, properties, a Lambourghini Hurricane and a Ferrari, the properties, a Lambourghini Hurricane and a Ferrari, the assets properties, a Lambourghini Hurricane and a Ferrari, the assets belonging and a Ferrari, the assets belonging to and a Ferrari, the assets belonging to a and a Ferrari, the assets belonging to a gang and a Ferrari, the assets belonging to a gang member and a Ferrari, the assets belonging to a gang member who and a Ferrari, the assets belonging to a gang member who was and a Ferrari, the assets belonging to a gang member who was charged to a gang member who was charged with to a gang member who was charged with conspiracy to a gang member who was charged with conspiracy to to a gang member who was charged with conspiracy to import with conspiracy to import methamphetamine with conspiracy to import methamphetamine and with conspiracy to import methamphetamine and money methamphetamine and money laundering. methamphetamine and money laundering. Nicole methamphetamine and money laundering. Nicole McKee. methamphetamine and money laundering. Nicole McKee. Thank methamphetamine and money laundering. Nicole McKee. Thank you laundering. Nicole McKee. Thank you Mr laundering. Nicole McKee. Thank you Mr Speaker. laundering. Nicole McKee. Thank you Mr Speaker. If laundering. Nicole McKee. Thank you Mr Speaker. If increasing laundering. Nicole McKee. Thank you Mr Speaker. If increasing the laundering. Nicole McKee. Thank you Mr Speaker. If increasing the police Mr Speaker. If increasing the police budget Mr Speaker. If increasing the police budget by Mr Speaker. If increasing the police budget by $450 Mr Speaker. If increasing the police budget by $450 million Mr Speaker. If increasing the police budget by $450 million has Mr Speaker. If increasing the police budget by $450 million has resulted budget by $450 million has resulted in budget by $450 million has resulted in a budget by $450 million has resulted in a huge budget by $450 million has resulted in a huge increase budget by $450 million has resulted in a huge increase in budget by $450 million has resulted in a huge increase in crime, budget by $450 million has resulted in a huge increase in crime, what in a huge increase in crime, what would in a huge increase in crime, what would she in a huge increase in crime, what would she expect in a huge increase in crime, what would she expect the in a huge increase in crime, what would she expect the ever in a huge increase in crime, what would she expect the ever of would she expect the ever of reducing would she expect the ever of reducing youth would she expect the ever of reducing youth services would she expect the ever of reducing youth services funding would she expect the ever of reducing youth services funding by reducing youth services funding by $10 reducing youth services funding by $10 million reducing youth services funding by $10 million to reducing youth services funding by $10 million to be? reducing youth services funding by $10 million to be? 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We had to build the police characterised this particular issue. We had to build the police from characterised this particular issue. We had to build the police from the We had to build the police from the base We had to build the police from the base that We had to build the police from the base that the We had to build the police from the base that the National We had to build the police from the base that the National Party We had to build the police from the base that the National Party left We had to build the police from the base that the National Party left us base that the National Party left us frozen base that the National Party left us frozen funding base that the National Party left us frozen funding and base that the National Party left us frozen funding and police base that the National Party left us frozen funding and police numbers frozen funding and police numbers dropping. frozen funding and police numbers dropping. In frozen funding and police numbers dropping. In other frozen funding and police numbers dropping. In other words frozen funding and police numbers dropping. In other words for frozen funding and police numbers dropping. In other words for us frozen funding and police numbers dropping. In other words for us to dropping. In other words for us to be dropping. In other words for us to be successful dropping. In other words for us to be successful in dropping. In other words for us to be successful in supporting dropping. 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Point middle of next year, 1800 more cops. Point of middle of next year, 1800 more cops. Point of order, middle of next year, 1800 more cops. Point of order, Nicole middle of next year, 1800 more cops. Point of order, Nicole McKee. middle of next year, 1800 more cops. Point of order, Nicole McKee. Mr Point of order, Nicole McKee. Mr Speaker, Point of order, Nicole McKee. Mr Speaker, I Point of order, Nicole McKee. Mr Speaker, I did Point of order, Nicole McKee. Mr Speaker, I did ask Point of order, Nicole McKee. Mr Speaker, I did ask what Point of order, Nicole McKee. Mr Speaker, I did ask what the Point of order, Nicole McKee. Mr Speaker, I did ask what the effect Speaker, I did ask what the effect of Speaker, I did ask what the effect of reducing Speaker, I did ask what the effect of reducing youth Speaker, I did ask what the effect of reducing youth funding Speaker, I did ask what the effect of reducing youth funding by Speaker, I did ask what the effect of reducing youth funding by $10 of reducing youth funding by $10 million of reducing youth funding by $10 million would of reducing youth funding by $10 million would be of reducing youth funding by $10 million would be and of reducing youth funding by $10 million would be and she of reducing youth funding by $10 million would be and she has of reducing youth funding by $10 million would be and she has not million would be and she has not addressed million would be and she has not addressed that million would be and she has not addressed that issue. million would be and she has not addressed that issue. Unfortunately addressed that issue. Unfortunately the addressed that issue. Unfortunately the member addressed that issue. Unfortunately the member had addressed that issue. Unfortunately the member had two addressed that issue. Unfortunately the member had two parts addressed that issue. Unfortunately the member had two parts to addressed that issue. Unfortunately the member had two parts to her the member had two parts to her question. the member had two parts to her question. When the member had two parts to her question. When it the member had two parts to her question. When it is the member had two parts to her question. When it is a question. When it is a supplementary, question. When it is a supplementary, there question. When it is a supplementary, there is question. When it is a supplementary, there is only question. When it is a supplementary, there is only an supplementary, there is only an obligation supplementary, there is only an obligation to supplementary, there is only an obligation to address supplementary, there is only an obligation to address one supplementary, there is only an obligation to address one part. supplementary, there is only an obligation to address one part. The obligation to address one part. The first obligation to address one part. The first was obligation to address one part. The first was certainly obligation to address one part. The first was certainly addressed obligation to address one part. The first was certainly addressed if obligation to address one part. The first was certainly addressed if not first was certainly addressed if not answered. first was certainly addressed if not answered. Question first was certainly addressed if not answered. Question number first was certainly addressed if not answered. Question number 10, first was certainly addressed if not answered. Question number 10, the answered. Question number 10, the Hon answered. Question number 10, the Hon Louise answered. Question number 10, the Hon Louise Upston. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Social My question is to the Minister for Social Development My question is to the Minister for Social Development and My question is to the Minister for Social Development and Employment: Social Development and Employment: Has Social Development and Employment: Has MSD Social Development and Employment: Has MSD been Social Development and Employment: Has MSD been enforcing Social Development and Employment: Has MSD been enforcing work-related Has MSD been enforcing work-related obligations Has MSD been enforcing work-related obligations for Has MSD been enforcing work-related obligations for the Has MSD been enforcing work-related obligations for the 176,763 obligations for the 176,763 Jobseeker obligations for the 176,763 Jobseeker support obligations for the 176,763 Jobseeker support recipients obligations for the 176,763 Jobseeker support recipients since Jobseeker support recipients since work-related Jobseeker support recipients since work-related obligation Jobseeker support recipients since work-related obligation failures work-related obligation failures were work-related obligation failures were suspended work-related obligation failures were suspended between work-related obligation failures were suspended between 23 work-related obligation failures were suspended between 23 March work-related obligation failures were suspended between 23 March 2020 were suspended between 23 March 2020 and were suspended between 23 March 2020 and 27 were suspended between 23 March 2020 and 27 May were suspended between 23 March 2020 and 27 May 2020 were suspended between 23 March 2020 and 27 May 2020 - were suspended between 23 March 2020 and 27 May 2020 - if were suspended between 23 March 2020 and 27 May 2020 - if not, were suspended between 23 March 2020 and 27 May 2020 - if not, why? The The HonWilly The HonWilly Jackson. The HonWilly Jackson. On The HonWilly Jackson. On behalf The HonWilly Jackson. On behalf of The HonWilly Jackson. On behalf of minister, The HonWilly Jackson. On behalf of minister, yes, The HonWilly Jackson. On behalf of minister, yes, the The HonWilly Jackson. On behalf of minister, yes, the Ministry The HonWilly Jackson. On behalf of minister, yes, the Ministry of minister, yes, the Ministry of Social minister, yes, the Ministry of Social Development minister, yes, the Ministry of Social Development resumed minister, yes, the Ministry of Social Development resumed the minister, yes, the Ministry of Social Development resumed the use Social Development resumed the use of Social Development resumed the use of work Social Development resumed the use of work obligations Social Development resumed the use of work obligations since Social Development resumed the use of work obligations since June Social Development resumed the use of work obligations since June 2020, of work obligations since June 2020, of of work obligations since June 2020, of the of work obligations since June 2020, of the current of work obligations since June 2020, of the current number of work obligations since June 2020, of the current number of of work obligations since June 2020, of the current number of Jobactive of the current number of Jobactive support of the current number of Jobactive support recipient of the current number of Jobactive support recipient some of the current number of Jobactive support recipient some have of the current number of Jobactive support recipient some have work support recipient some have work obligations, support recipient some have work obligations, other support recipient some have work obligations, other mace support recipient some have work obligations, other mace have support recipient some have work obligations, other mace have health obligations, other mace have health conditions obligations, other mace have health conditions or obligations, other mace have health conditions or disabilities obligations, other mace have health conditions or disabilities that obligations, other mace have health conditions or disabilities that mean conditions or disabilities that mean that conditions or disabilities that mean that these conditions or disabilities that mean that these obligations conditions or disabilities that mean that these obligations don't conditions or disabilities that mean that these obligations don't apply. that these obligations don't apply. As that these obligations don't apply. As you that these obligations don't apply. As you can that these obligations don't apply. As you can see that these obligations don't apply. As you can see from that these obligations don't apply. As you can see from our that these obligations don't apply. As you can see from our continued As you can see from our continued low As you can see from our continued low unemployment As you can see from our continued low unemployment rate As you can see from our continued low unemployment rate of As you can see from our continued low unemployment rate of 3.2% As you can see from our continued low unemployment rate of 3.2% today low unemployment rate of 3.2% today and low unemployment rate of 3.2% today and the low unemployment rate of 3.2% today and the record low unemployment rate of 3.2% today and the record breaking low unemployment rate of 3.2% today and the record breaking levels low unemployment rate of 3.2% today and the record breaking levels of and the record breaking levels of people and the record breaking levels of people off and the record breaking levels of people off benefit and the record breaking levels of people off benefit into and the record breaking levels of people off benefit into work, and the record breaking levels of people off benefit into work, this people off benefit into work, this government people off benefit into work, this government has people off benefit into work, this government has successfully government has successfully supported government has successfully supported more government has successfully supported more New government has successfully supported more New Zealanders government has successfully supported more New Zealanders into supported more New Zealanders into work. supported more New Zealanders into work. Supplementary. supported more New Zealanders into work. Supplementary. Why, supported more New Zealanders into work. Supplementary. Why, when supported more New Zealanders into work. Supplementary. Why, when - work. Supplementary. Why, when - sorry, work. Supplementary. Why, when - sorry, can work. Supplementary. Why, when - sorry, can she work. Supplementary. Why, when - sorry, can she explain work. Supplementary. Why, when - sorry, can she explain why work. Supplementary. 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Mr quarter were 67% lower compared to March 2020 quarter? Mr Speaker, quarter were 67% lower compared to March 2020 quarter? Mr Speaker, in March 2020 quarter? Mr Speaker, in government March 2020 quarter? Mr Speaker, in government has March 2020 quarter? Mr Speaker, in government has a March 2020 quarter? Mr Speaker, in government has a different March 2020 quarter? Mr Speaker, in government has a different approach government has a different approach to government has a different approach to the government has a different approach to the punitive government has a different approach to the punitive cruel, government has a different approach to the punitive cruel, uncaring to the punitive cruel, uncaring previous to the punitive cruel, uncaring previous National to the punitive cruel, uncaring previous National government. to the punitive cruel, uncaring previous National government. The previous National government. The reality previous National government. The reality is... previous National government. The reality is... Mr previous National government. The reality is... Mr Speaker... reality is... Mr Speaker... <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> ... <INTERRUPTION> ... We <INTERRUPTION> ... We don't <INTERRUPTION> ... We don't just <INTERRUPTION> ... We don't just apply <INTERRUPTION> ... We don't just apply sanctions ... We don't just apply sanctions easily, ... We don't just apply sanctions easily, liberally. ... We don't just apply sanctions easily, liberally. We ... We don't just apply sanctions easily, liberally. We look ... We don't just apply sanctions easily, liberally. We look at ... We don't just apply sanctions easily, liberally. We look at what's easily, liberally. We look at what's happening easily, liberally. We look at what's happening with easily, liberally. We look at what's happening with the easily, liberally. We look at what's happening with the whanau, easily, liberally. We look at what's happening with the whanau, we easily, liberally. We look at what's happening with the whanau, we look happening with the whanau, we look at happening with the whanau, we look at what happening with the whanau, we look at what is happening with the whanau, we look at what is happening happening with the whanau, we look at what is happening in happening with the whanau, we look at what is happening in the at what is happening in the community. at what is happening in the community. We at what is happening in the community. We look at what is happening in the community. We look to at what is happening in the community. We look to see at what is happening in the community. We look to see if at what is happening in the community. We look to see if there community. We look to see if there is community. We look to see if there is domestic community. We look to see if there is domestic violence community. We look to see if there is domestic violence happening community. We look to see if there is domestic violence happening in is domestic violence happening in the is domestic violence happening in the whanaus is domestic violence happening in the whanaus there is domestic violence happening in the whanaus there intergenerational the whanaus there intergenerational unemployment, the whanaus there intergenerational unemployment, drug the whanaus there intergenerational unemployment, drug use the whanaus there intergenerational unemployment, drug use - the whanaus there intergenerational unemployment, drug use - unlike the whanaus there intergenerational unemployment, drug use - unlike the unemployment, drug use - unlike the previous unemployment, drug use - unlike the previous National unemployment, drug use - unlike the previous National Party, unemployment, drug use - unlike the previous National Party, who unemployment, drug use - unlike the previous National Party, who just previous National Party, who just stop previous National Party, who just stop benefits previous National Party, who just stop benefits at previous National Party, who just stop benefits at the previous National Party, who just stop benefits at the drop previous National Party, who just stop benefits at the drop of previous National Party, who just stop benefits at the drop of a previous National Party, who just stop benefits at the drop of a hat. stop benefits at the drop of a hat. Why, stop benefits at the drop of a hat. Why, when stop benefits at the drop of a hat. Why, when unemployment stop benefits at the drop of a hat. Why, when unemployment is stop benefits at the drop of a hat. Why, when unemployment is 3.2%, stop benefits at the drop of a hat. Why, when unemployment is 3.2%, and Why, when unemployment is 3.2%, and firms Why, when unemployment is 3.2%, and firms are Why, when unemployment is 3.2%, and firms are crying Why, when unemployment is 3.2%, and firms are crying out Why, when unemployment is 3.2%, and firms are crying out for Why, when unemployment is 3.2%, and firms are crying out for staff Why, when unemployment is 3.2%, and firms are crying out for staff have firms are crying out for staff have 110,000 firms are crying out for staff have 110,000 people firms are crying out for staff have 110,000 people been firms are crying out for staff have 110,000 people been on firms are crying out for staff have 110,000 people been on the firms are crying out for staff have 110,000 people been on the Jobseeker 110,000 people been on the Jobseeker benefit 110,000 people been on the Jobseeker benefit for 110,000 people been on the Jobseeker benefit for longer 110,000 people been on the Jobseeker benefit for longer than 110,000 people been on the Jobseeker benefit for longer than a 110,000 people been on the Jobseeker benefit for longer than a year? benefit for longer than a year? 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Order! support what I'm going to say. As we all know... Order! Mr support what I'm going to say. As we all know... Order! Mr Speaker, support what I'm going to say. As we all know... Order! Mr Speaker, we all know... Order! Mr Speaker, we had... all know... Order! Mr Speaker, we had... The all know... Order! Mr Speaker, we had... The member all know... Order! Mr Speaker, we had... The member will all know... Order! Mr Speaker, we had... The member will resume all know... Order! Mr Speaker, we had... The member will resume his had... The member will resume his seat. had... The member will resume his seat. Karen seat. Karen The seat. Karen The members seat. Karen The members don't seat. Karen The members don't want seat. Karen The members don't want to seat. Karen The members don't want to hear seat. Karen The members don't want to hear the The members don't want to hear the answer. The members don't want to hear the answer. Karen The members don't want to hear the answer. Karen Chhour. The members don't want to hear the answer. Karen Chhour. Does The members don't want to hear the answer. Karen Chhour. Does MSD The members don't want to hear the answer. Karen Chhour. Does MSD have answer. Karen Chhour. Does MSD have any answer. Karen Chhour. Does MSD have any mechanisms answer. Karen Chhour. Does MSD have any mechanisms to answer. Karen Chhour. Does MSD have any mechanisms to protect answer. Karen Chhour. Does MSD have any mechanisms to protect Jobseeker any mechanisms to protect Jobseeker beneficiaries any mechanisms to protect Jobseeker beneficiaries not any mechanisms to protect Jobseeker beneficiaries not truly any mechanisms to protect Jobseeker beneficiaries not truly looking any mechanisms to protect Jobseeker beneficiaries not truly looking for beneficiaries not truly looking for work beneficiaries not truly looking for work but beneficiaries not truly looking for work but box-ticking beneficiaries not truly looking for work but box-ticking on beneficiaries not truly looking for work but box-ticking on benefit work but box-ticking on benefit obligations work but box-ticking on benefit obligations and work but box-ticking on benefit obligations and in work but box-ticking on benefit obligations and in not, work but box-ticking on benefit obligations and in not, why work but box-ticking on benefit obligations and in not, why not? work but box-ticking on benefit obligations and in not, why not? Of obligations and in not, why not? Of course obligations and in not, why not? Of course MSD obligations and in not, why not? Of course MSD has obligations and in not, why not? Of course MSD has processes obligations and in not, why not? Of course MSD has processes in obligations and in not, why not? Of course MSD has processes in place. course MSD has processes in place. We course MSD has processes in place. We have course MSD has processes in place. We have a course MSD has processes in place. We have a very course MSD has processes in place. We have a very good... course MSD has processes in place. We have a very good... Have course MSD has processes in place. We have a very good... Have a We have a very good... Have a listen, We have a very good... Have a listen, Seymour, We have a very good... Have a listen, Seymour, you We have a very good... Have a listen, Seymour, you might We have a very good... 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We've seen the Maori unemployment rate record low. We've seen the Maori unemployment rate at record low. We've seen the Maori unemployment rate at an record low. We've seen the Maori unemployment rate at an all record low. We've seen the Maori unemployment rate at an all time unemployment rate at an all time low. unemployment rate at an all time low. What unemployment rate at an all time low. What does unemployment rate at an all time low. What does that unemployment rate at an all time low. What does that tell unemployment rate at an all time low. What does that tell you? unemployment rate at an all time low. What does that tell you? It low. What does that tell you? It tells low. What does that tell you? It tells you low. What does that tell you? It tells you our low. What does that tell you? It tells you our targeted low. What does that tell you? 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Question number government. Question number 11, government. Question number 11, Willow-Jean Question number 11, Willow-Jean Prime. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Associate My question is to the Associate Minister My question is to the Associate Minister of My question is to the Associate Minister of Housing My question is to the Associate Minister of Housing (Maori My question is to the Associate Minister of Housing (Maori Housing): Minister of Housing (Maori Housing): How Minister of Housing (Maori Housing): How is Minister of Housing (Maori Housing): How is the Minister of Housing (Maori Housing): How is the Government Minister of Housing (Maori Housing): How is the Government partnering How is the Government partnering with How is the Government partnering with iwi How is the Government partnering with iwi Maori How is the Government partnering with iwi Maori to How is the Government partnering with iwi Maori to deliver How is the Government partnering with iwi Maori to deliver new How is the Government partnering with iwi Maori to deliver new homes with iwi Maori to deliver new homes for with iwi Maori to deliver new homes for whanau with iwi Maori to deliver new homes for whanau who with iwi Maori to deliver new homes for whanau who need with iwi Maori to deliver new homes for whanau who need them with iwi Maori to deliver new homes for whanau who need them most? Hon Hon Peeni Hon Peeni Henare. Hon Peeni Henare. Mr Hon Peeni Henare. Mr Speaker, Hon Peeni Henare. Mr Speaker, on Hon Peeni Henare. Mr Speaker, on Friday Hon Peeni Henare. Mr Speaker, on Friday I Hon Peeni Henare. Mr Speaker, on Friday I travelled Hon Peeni Henare. Mr Speaker, on Friday I travelled to Hon Peeni Henare. Mr Speaker, on Friday I travelled to Taranaki Hon Peeni Henare. Mr Speaker, on Friday I travelled to Taranaki to Friday I travelled to Taranaki to announce Friday I travelled to Taranaki to announce a Friday I travelled to Taranaki to announce a new Friday I travelled to Taranaki to announce a new partnership Friday I travelled to Taranaki to announce a new partnership between announce a new partnership between government announce a new partnership between government and announce a new partnership between government and iwi announce a new partnership between government and iwi to announce a new partnership between government and iwi to build announce a new partnership between government and iwi to build 172 government and iwi to build 172 homes government and iwi to build 172 homes for government and iwi to build 172 homes for whanau. government and iwi to build 172 homes for whanau. This government and iwi to build 172 homes for whanau. This will government and iwi to build 172 homes for whanau. This will deliver homes for whanau. This will deliver affordable homes for whanau. This will deliver affordable housing homes for whanau. This will deliver affordable housing across homes for whanau. This will deliver affordable housing across the homes for whanau. This will deliver affordable housing across the area affordable housing across the area and affordable housing across the area and up affordable housing across the area and up around affordable housing across the area and up around the affordable housing across the area and up around the central affordable housing across the area and up around the central and affordable housing across the area and up around the central and north and up around the central and north island and up around the central and north island getting and up around the central and north island getting whanau and up around the central and north island getting whanau who and up around the central and north island getting whanau who need and up around the central and north island getting whanau who need the island getting whanau who need the rentals island getting whanau who need the rentals into island getting whanau who need the rentals into secure, island getting whanau who need the rentals into secure, warm island getting whanau who need the rentals into secure, warm homes rentals into secure, warm homes quickly rentals into secure, warm homes quickly and rentals into secure, warm homes quickly and on rentals into secure, warm homes quickly and on iwi rentals into secure, warm homes quickly and on iwi owned rentals into secure, warm homes quickly and on iwi owned whenua. rentals into secure, warm homes quickly and on iwi owned whenua. It quickly and on iwi owned whenua. It is quickly and on iwi owned whenua. It is co-funded quickly and on iwi owned whenua. It is co-funded by quickly and on iwi owned whenua. It is co-funded by the quickly and on iwi owned whenua. It is co-funded by the Kopapa quickly and on iwi owned whenua. It is co-funded by the Kopapa and quickly and on iwi owned whenua. 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