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Why effort to ease those pressures. Why then effort to ease those pressures. Why then did effort to ease those pressures. Why then did the effort to ease those pressures. Why then did the Government effort to ease those pressures. 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What we need is the ability for our we need is the ability for our health we need is the ability for our health network we need is the ability for our health network particularly we need is the ability for our health network particularly tertiary health network particularly tertiary care health network particularly tertiary care to health network particularly tertiary care to work health network particularly tertiary care to work together. health network particularly tertiary care to work together. We've health network particularly tertiary care to work together. We've seen care to work together. We've seen the care to work together. We've seen the signs care to work together. We've seen the signs of care to work together. We've seen the signs of the care to work together. We've seen the signs of the benefits care to work together. We've seen the signs of the benefits it care to work together. We've seen the signs of the benefits it can the signs of the benefits it can bring the signs of the benefits it can bring when the signs of the benefits it can bring when those the signs of the benefits it can bring when those providers the signs of the benefits it can bring when those providers have bring when those providers have worked bring when those providers have worked together bring when those providers have worked together through bring when those providers have worked together through COVID. bring when those providers have worked together through COVID. We worked together through COVID. We need worked together through COVID. We need the worked together through COVID. We need the ability worked together through COVID. We need the ability to worked together through COVID. We need the ability to move worked together through COVID. We need the ability to move our worked together through COVID. We need the ability to move our health need the ability to move our health workforce need the ability to move our health workforce around need the ability to move our health workforce around where need the ability to move our health workforce around where the need the ability to move our health workforce around where the need need the ability to move our health workforce around where the need is. workforce around where the need is. We workforce around where the need is. We need workforce around where the need is. We need the workforce around where the need is. We need the ability workforce around where the need is. We need the ability for workforce around where the need is. We need the ability for different We need the ability for different tertiary We need the ability for different tertiary institutions We need the ability for different tertiary institutions to We need the ability for different tertiary institutions to focus We need the ability for different tertiary institutions to focus on tertiary institutions to focus on the tertiary institutions to focus on the specialist tertiary institutions to focus on the specialist care tertiary institutions to focus on the specialist care that tertiary institutions to focus on the specialist care that they tertiary institutions to focus on the specialist care that they can the specialist care that they can provide the specialist care that they can provide nationally. the specialist care that they can provide nationally. We the specialist care that they can provide nationally. We need the specialist care that they can provide nationally. We need to the specialist care that they can provide nationally. We need to make provide nationally. We need to make sure provide nationally. We need to make sure that provide nationally. We need to make sure that we provide nationally. We need to make sure that we are provide nationally. We need to make sure that we are funding provide nationally. We need to make sure that we are funding our sure that we are funding our community sure that we are funding our community based sure that we are funding our community based provision sure that we are funding our community based provision and community based provision and ensuring community based provision and ensuring that community based provision and ensuring that we community based provision and ensuring that we have community based provision and ensuring that we have health ensuring that we have health resource ensuring that we have health resource that ensuring that we have health resource that places ensuring that we have health resource that places people ensuring that we have health resource that places people to resource that places people to access resource that places people to access it resource that places people to access it when resource that places people to access it when they resource that places people to access it when they need resource that places people to access it when they need it resource that places people to access it when they need it and resource that places people to access it when they need it and not access it when they need it and not a access it when they need it and not a 9-5. access it when they need it and not a 9-5. 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That is what Health New national service. That is what Health New Zealand national service. That is what Health New Zealand is. national service. That is what Health New Zealand is. If national service. That is what Health New Zealand is. If the national service. That is what Health New Zealand is. If the member Health New Zealand is. If the member continues Health New Zealand is. If the member continues to Health New Zealand is. If the member continues to call Health New Zealand is. If the member continues to call it Health New Zealand is. If the member continues to call it a Health New Zealand is. If the member continues to call it a bureaucracy, continues to call it a bureaucracy, he continues to call it a bureaucracy, he clearly continues to call it a bureaucracy, he clearly doesn't continues to call it a bureaucracy, he clearly doesn't understand continues to call it a bureaucracy, he clearly doesn't understand the he clearly doesn't understand the reforms. he clearly doesn't understand the reforms. Question he clearly doesn't understand the reforms. Question No. he clearly doesn't understand the reforms. Question No. 3. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Social My question is to the Minister for Social Development for Social Development and for Social Development and Employment: for Social Development and Employment: Does for Social Development and Employment: Does she for Social Development and Employment: Does she agree and Employment: Does she agree with and Employment: Does she agree with the and Employment: Does she agree with the widespread and Employment: Does she agree with the widespread concerns with the widespread concerns about with the widespread concerns about the with the widespread concerns about the Oversight about the Oversight of about the Oversight of Oranga about the Oversight of Oranga Tamariki about the Oversight of Oranga Tamariki System of Oranga Tamariki System and of Oranga Tamariki System and Children of Oranga Tamariki System and Children and of Oranga Tamariki System and Children and Young and Children and Young People's and Children and Young People's Commission and Children and Young People's Commission Bill, People's Commission Bill, including People's Commission Bill, including from People's Commission Bill, including from Hapai People's Commission Bill, including from Hapai Te People's Commission Bill, including from Hapai Te Hauora, including from Hapai Te Hauora, who including from Hapai Te Hauora, who said including from Hapai Te Hauora, who said that including from Hapai Te Hauora, who said that it including from Hapai Te Hauora, who said that it will including from Hapai Te Hauora, who said that it will "not including from Hapai Te Hauora, who said that it will "not only who said that it will "not only stagnate who said that it will "not only stagnate any who said that it will "not only stagnate any attempts who said that it will "not only stagnate any attempts to who said that it will "not only stagnate any attempts to pursue stagnate any attempts to pursue better stagnate any attempts to pursue better outcomes stagnate any attempts to pursue better outcomes for stagnate any attempts to pursue better outcomes for tamariki better outcomes for tamariki and better outcomes for tamariki and whanau better outcomes for tamariki and whanau engaged better outcomes for tamariki and whanau engaged with and whanau engaged with Oranga and whanau engaged with Oranga Tamariki and whanau engaged with Oranga Tamariki but and whanau engaged with Oranga Tamariki but may and whanau engaged with Oranga Tamariki but may even Oranga Tamariki but may even perpetuate Oranga Tamariki but may even perpetuate the Oranga Tamariki but may even perpetuate the harms Oranga Tamariki but may even perpetuate the harms and Oranga Tamariki but may even perpetuate the harms and dysfunction perpetuate the harms and dysfunction of perpetuate the harms and dysfunction of the perpetuate the harms and dysfunction of the current perpetuate the harms and dysfunction of the current Oranga perpetuate the harms and dysfunction of the current Oranga Tamariki of the current Oranga Tamariki system of the current Oranga Tamariki system at of the current Oranga Tamariki system at disproportionate system at disproportionate and system at disproportionate and irreparable system at disproportionate and irreparable rates"? The The Hon The Hon Carmel The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, I The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, I do The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, I do not The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, I do not believe The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, I do not believe that The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, I do not believe that it The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. Mr Speaker, I do not believe that it will I do not believe that it will perpetuate I do not believe that it will perpetuate the I do not believe that it will perpetuate the harms I do not believe that it will perpetuate the harms of I do not believe that it will perpetuate the harms of the I do not believe that it will perpetuate the harms of the current perpetuate the harms of the current system. perpetuate the harms of the current system. I perpetuate the harms of the current system. I think, perpetuate the harms of the current system. I think, in perpetuate the harms of the current system. I think, in fact, perpetuate the harms of the current system. I think, in fact, it perpetuate the harms of the current system. I think, in fact, it is... system. I think, in fact, it is... This system. I think, in fact, it is... This bill system. I think, in fact, it is... This bill reflects system. I think, in fact, it is... This bill reflects important system. I think, in fact, it is... This bill reflects important steps This bill reflects important steps to This bill reflects important steps to doing This bill reflects important steps to doing the This bill reflects important steps to doing the complete This bill reflects important steps to doing the complete opposite. This bill reflects important steps to doing the complete opposite. I to doing the complete opposite. I believe to doing the complete opposite. I believe that to doing the complete opposite. I believe that we to doing the complete opposite. I believe that we all to doing the complete opposite. I believe that we all have to doing the complete opposite. I believe that we all have the to doing the complete opposite. I believe that we all have the same believe that we all have the same goal believe that we all have the same goal of believe that we all have the same goal of improving believe that we all have the same goal of improving outcomes believe that we all have the same goal of improving outcomes for believe that we all have the same goal of improving outcomes for our goal of improving outcomes for our Tamariki. goal of improving outcomes for our Tamariki. This goal of improving outcomes for our Tamariki. This bill goal of improving outcomes for our Tamariki. This bill alone goal of improving outcomes for our Tamariki. This bill alone will goal of improving outcomes for our Tamariki. This bill alone will not Tamariki. This bill alone will not address Tamariki. This bill alone will not address every Tamariki. This bill alone will not address every challenge Tamariki. This bill alone will not address every challenge pertaining address every challenge pertaining to address every challenge pertaining to Oranga address every challenge pertaining to Oranga Tamariki. address every challenge pertaining to Oranga Tamariki. My address every challenge pertaining to Oranga Tamariki. My colleague, to Oranga Tamariki. My colleague, Minister to Oranga Tamariki. My colleague, Minister Davies, to Oranga Tamariki. My colleague, Minister Davies, has to Oranga Tamariki. My colleague, Minister Davies, has significant Minister Davies, has significant work Minister Davies, has significant work to Minister Davies, has significant work to reform Minister Davies, has significant work to reform Oranga Minister Davies, has significant work to reform Oranga Tamariki. Minister Davies, has significant work to reform Oranga Tamariki. What work to reform Oranga Tamariki. What the work to reform Oranga Tamariki. What the bill work to reform Oranga Tamariki. What the bill will work to reform Oranga Tamariki. What the bill will do work to reform Oranga Tamariki. What the bill will do is work to reform Oranga Tamariki. What the bill will do is ensure the bill will do is ensure independent the bill will do is ensure independent monitoring, the bill will do is ensure independent monitoring, strong independent monitoring, strong advocacy independent monitoring, strong advocacy and independent monitoring, strong advocacy and accessible independent monitoring, strong advocacy and accessible complaints advocacy and accessible complaints system advocacy and accessible complaints system to advocacy and accessible complaints system to ensure advocacy and accessible complaints system to ensure that advocacy and accessible complaints system to ensure that government advocacy and accessible complaints system to ensure that government is system to ensure that government is held system to ensure that government is held accountable system to ensure that government is held accountable so system to ensure that government is held accountable so we system to ensure that government is held accountable so we start system to ensure that government is held accountable so we start to held accountable so we start to actually held accountable so we start to actually see held accountable so we start to actually see real held accountable so we start to actually see real change held accountable so we start to actually see real change for held accountable so we start to actually see real change for our actually see real change for our children actually see real change for our children and actually see real change for our children and young actually see real change for our children and young people actually see real change for our children and young people who actually see real change for our children and young people who are actually see real change for our children and young people who are in children and young people who are in the children and young people who are in the system children and young people who are in the system now. children and young people who are in the system now. Supplementary. children and young people who are in the system now. Supplementary. Why the system now. Supplementary. Why is the system now. Supplementary. Why is Government the system now. Supplementary. Why is Government determined the system now. Supplementary. Why is Government determined on the system now. Supplementary. Why is Government determined on changing is Government determined on changing the is Government determined on changing the Oranga is Government determined on changing the Oranga Tamariki is Government determined on changing the Oranga Tamariki from is Government determined on changing the Oranga Tamariki from an the Oranga Tamariki from an independent the Oranga Tamariki from an independent Crown the Oranga Tamariki from an independent Crown entity the Oranga Tamariki from an independent Crown entity to the Oranga Tamariki from an independent Crown entity to a independent Crown entity to a departmental independent Crown entity to a departmental agency independent Crown entity to a departmental agency when independent Crown entity to a departmental agency when there's departmental agency when there's inevitably departmental agency when there's inevitably going departmental agency when there's inevitably going to departmental agency when there's inevitably going to reduce departmental agency when there's inevitably going to reduce the inevitably going to reduce the independence inevitably going to reduce the independence of inevitably going to reduce the independence of the inevitably going to reduce the independence of the oversight? inevitably going to reduce the independence of the oversight? 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The Children's Commission between currently have in place. The Children's Commission between 2015 Children's Commission between 2015 and Children's Commission between 2015 and 2019 Children's Commission between 2015 and 2019 had Children's Commission between 2015 and 2019 had 78 Children's Commission between 2015 and 2019 had 78 complaints Children's Commission between 2015 and 2019 had 78 complaints that Children's Commission between 2015 and 2019 had 78 complaints that were and 2019 had 78 complaints that were put and 2019 had 78 complaints that were put through and 2019 had 78 complaints that were put through them and 2019 had 78 complaints that were put through them that and 2019 had 78 complaints that were put through them that they and 2019 had 78 complaints that were put through them that they then and 2019 had 78 complaints that were put through them that they then put put through them that they then put on put through them that they then put on to put through them that they then put on to the put through them that they then put on to the Ombudsman, put through them that they then put on to the Ombudsman, because put through them that they then put on to the Ombudsman, because the on to the Ombudsman, because the budman on to the Ombudsman, because the budman has on to the Ombudsman, because the budman has had on to the Ombudsman, because the budman has had the on to the Ombudsman, because the budman has had the lead on to the Ombudsman, because the budman has had the lead role on to the Ombudsman, because the budman has had the lead role with budman has had the lead role with regards budman has had the lead role with regards to budman has had the lead role with regards to addressing budman has had the lead role with regards to addressing complaints. regards to addressing complaints. The regards to addressing complaints. The Children's regards to addressing complaints. The Children's Commissioner regards to addressing complaints. The Children's Commissioner last The Children's Commissioner last undertook The Children's Commissioner last undertook an The Children's Commissioner last undertook an investigation The Children's Commissioner last undertook an investigation back The Children's Commissioner last undertook an investigation back in undertook an investigation back in 2010. undertook an investigation back in 2010. In undertook an investigation back in 2010. In 2019, undertook an investigation back in 2010. In 2019, we undertook an investigation back in 2010. In 2019, we set undertook an investigation back in 2010. In 2019, we set up undertook an investigation back in 2010. In 2019, we set up the 2010. In 2019, we set up the Independent 2010. In 2019, we set up the Independent Children's 2010. In 2019, we set up the Independent Children's Monitor. 2010. In 2019, we set up the Independent Children's Monitor. We Independent Children's Monitor. We set Independent Children's Monitor. We set it Independent Children's Monitor. We set it up Independent Children's Monitor. We set it up within Independent Children's Monitor. We set it up within MSD Independent Children's Monitor. We set it up within MSD so Independent Children's Monitor. We set it up within MSD so it Independent Children's Monitor. We set it up within MSD so it had Independent Children's Monitor. We set it up within MSD so it had the set it up within MSD so it had the support set it up within MSD so it had the support to set it up within MSD so it had the support to be set it up within MSD so it had the support to be initiated set it up within MSD so it had the support to be initiated and set it up within MSD so it had the support to be initiated and to set it up within MSD so it had the support to be initiated and to start support to be initiated and to start up. support to be initiated and to start up. But support to be initiated and to start up. But with support to be initiated and to start up. But with the support to be initiated and to start up. But with the intention support to be initiated and to start up. But with the intention of support to be initiated and to start up. But with the intention of always up. But with the intention of always removing up. But with the intention of always removing it up. But with the intention of always removing it out up. But with the intention of always removing it out of up. But with the intention of always removing it out of the up. But with the intention of always removing it out of the ministry up. But with the intention of always removing it out of the ministry for removing it out of the ministry for Social removing it out of the ministry for Social Development. removing it out of the ministry for Social Development. The removing it out of the ministry for Social Development. The group removing it out of the ministry for Social Development. The group that Social Development. The group that were Social Development. The group that were established Social Development. The group that were established to Social Development. The group that were established to advise Social Development. The group that were established to advise the were established to advise the Government were established to advise the Government on were established to advise the Government on this were established to advise the Government on this by were established to advise the Government on this by and were established to advise the Government on this by and large were established to advise the Government on this by and large have Government on this by and large have their Government on this by and large have their recommendations Government on this by and large have their recommendations reflected Government on this by and large have their recommendations reflected in their recommendations reflected in this their recommendations reflected in this bill. their recommendations reflected in this bill. The their recommendations reflected in this bill. The one their recommendations reflected in this bill. The one point their recommendations reflected in this bill. The one point of this bill. The one point of difference this bill. The one point of difference is this bill. The one point of difference is that this bill. The one point of difference is that they this bill. The one point of difference is that they did this bill. The one point of difference is that they did think difference is that they did think that difference is that they did think that we difference is that they did think that we should difference is that they did think that we should establish difference is that they did think that we should establish a difference is that they did think that we should establish a Crown that we should establish a Crown entity that we should establish a Crown entity for that we should establish a Crown entity for the that we should establish a Crown entity for the Independent entity for the Independent Children's entity for the Independent Children's Monitor. entity for the Independent Children's Monitor. Where entity for the Independent Children's Monitor. 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That can't be told what to do by the be told what to do by the Government, be told what to do by the Government, and be told what to do by the Government, and that be told what to do by the Government, and that will be told what to do by the Government, and that will sit Government, and that will sit alongside Government, and that will sit alongside the Government, and that will sit alongside the advocate Government, and that will sit alongside the advocate that alongside the advocate that continues alongside the advocate that continues to alongside the advocate that continues to exist alongside the advocate that continues to exist in alongside the advocate that continues to exist in the alongside the advocate that continues to exist in the Children's continues to exist in the Children's Commission continues to exist in the Children's Commission as continues to exist in the Children's Commission as well continues to exist in the Children's Commission as well as continues to exist in the Children's Commission as well as a continues to exist in the Children's Commission as well as a strengthened Commission as well as a strengthened complaints Commission as well as a strengthened complaints avenue Commission as well as a strengthened complaints avenue process Commission as well as a strengthened complaints avenue process through complaints avenue process through the complaints avenue process through the investment complaints avenue process through the investment that complaints avenue process through the investment that we complaints avenue process through the investment that we have complaints avenue process through the investment that we have put complaints avenue process through the investment that we have put into the investment that we have put into and the investment that we have put into and will the investment that we have put into and will continue the investment that we have put into and will continue to the investment that we have put into and will continue to put the investment that we have put into and will continue to put into the investment that we have put into and will continue to put into the and will continue to put into the Ombudsman. and will continue to put into the Ombudsman. Supplementary. and will continue to put into the Ombudsman. Supplementary. Can and will continue to put into the Ombudsman. Supplementary. Can she Ombudsman. Supplementary. Can she identify Ombudsman. Supplementary. Can she identify how Ombudsman. Supplementary. Can she identify how the Ombudsman. Supplementary. Can she identify how the bill Ombudsman. Supplementary. Can she identify how the bill provides Ombudsman. Supplementary. Can she identify how the bill provides from identify how the bill provides from Waitangi identify how the bill provides from Waitangi guarantee identify how the bill provides from Waitangi guarantee of identify how the bill provides from Waitangi guarantee of hapu identify how the bill provides from Waitangi guarantee of hapu and identify how the bill provides from Waitangi guarantee of hapu and iwi Waitangi guarantee of hapu and iwi over Waitangi guarantee of hapu and iwi over the Waitangi guarantee of hapu and iwi over the protection Waitangi guarantee of hapu and iwi over the protection and Waitangi guarantee of hapu and iwi over the protection and care Waitangi guarantee of hapu and iwi over the protection and care of over the protection and care of Tamariki over the protection and care of Tamariki Maori? over the protection and care of Tamariki Maori? There's over the protection and care of Tamariki Maori? There's been over the protection and care of Tamariki Maori? There's been much Tamariki Maori? There's been much discussion Tamariki Maori? There's been much discussion about Tamariki Maori? There's been much discussion about whether Tamariki Maori? There's been much discussion about whether or Tamariki Maori? There's been much discussion about whether or not Tamariki Maori? There's been much discussion about whether or not we discussion about whether or not we have discussion about whether or not we have consulted discussion about whether or not we have consulted broadly discussion about whether or not we have consulted broadly enough discussion about whether or not we have consulted broadly enough with have consulted broadly enough with regards have consulted broadly enough with regards to have consulted broadly enough with regards to this have consulted broadly enough with regards to this bill. have consulted broadly enough with regards to this bill. I have consulted broadly enough with regards to this bill. I want have consulted broadly enough with regards to this bill. I want to regards to this bill. I want to remind regards to this bill. I want to remind the regards to this bill. I want to remind the House regards to this bill. I want to remind the House that regards to this bill. I want to remind the House that there regards to this bill. I want to remind the House that there was regards to this bill. I want to remind the House that there was the remind the House that there was the Kahui remind the House that there was the Kahui group remind the House that there was the Kahui group put remind the House that there was the Kahui group put in remind the House that there was the Kahui group put in place remind the House that there was the Kahui group put in place to remind the House that there was the Kahui group put in place to support Kahui group put in place to support the Kahui group put in place to support the Government's Kahui group put in place to support the Government's consultation Kahui group put in place to support the Government's consultation with the Government's consultation with Maori. the Government's consultation with Maori. 22 the Government's consultation with Maori. 22 hui the Government's consultation with Maori. 22 hui were the Government's consultation with Maori. 22 hui were held the Government's consultation with Maori. 22 hui were held across the Government's consultation with Maori. 22 hui were held across the Maori. 22 hui were held across the country Maori. 22 hui were held across the country and Maori. 22 hui were held across the country and with Maori. 22 hui were held across the country and with respect Maori. 22 hui were held across the country and with respect to Maori. 22 hui were held across the country and with respect to this country and with respect to this particular country and with respect to this particular issue, country and with respect to this particular issue, this country and with respect to this particular issue, this very particular issue, this very important particular issue, this very important issue. particular issue, this very important issue. Mr particular issue, this very important issue. Mr Speaker, particular issue, this very important issue. Mr Speaker, the important issue. Mr Speaker, the bill important issue. Mr Speaker, the bill reflects important issue. Mr Speaker, the bill reflects the important issue. Mr Speaker, the bill reflects the conversations important issue. Mr Speaker, the bill reflects the conversations of bill reflects the conversations of those bill reflects the conversations of those 22 bill reflects the conversations of those 22 hui bill reflects the conversations of those 22 hui that bill reflects the conversations of those 22 hui that we bill reflects the conversations of those 22 hui that we engaged bill reflects the conversations of those 22 hui that we engaged with, those 22 hui that we engaged with, working those 22 hui that we engaged with, working with those 22 hui that we engaged with, working with Maori those 22 hui that we engaged with, working with Maori to those 22 hui that we engaged with, working with Maori to develop those 22 hui that we engaged with, working with Maori to develop the working with Maori to develop the treaty working with Maori to develop the treaty components working with Maori to develop the treaty components of working with Maori to develop the treaty components of the working with Maori to develop the treaty components of the bill working with Maori to develop the treaty components of the bill have treaty components of the bill have been treaty components of the bill have been critical treaty components of the bill have been critical to treaty components of the bill have been critical to us treaty components of the bill have been critical to us as treaty components of the bill have been critical to us as a treaty components of the bill have been critical to us as a Government. been critical to us as a Government. 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The bill's treaty provisions were The bill's treaty provisions were carefully The bill's treaty provisions were carefully crafted The bill's treaty provisions were carefully crafted with The bill's treaty provisions were carefully crafted with those The bill's treaty provisions were carefully crafted with those who carefully crafted with those who supported carefully crafted with those who supported MSD's carefully crafted with those who supported MSD's consultation carefully crafted with those who supported MSD's consultation with supported MSD's consultation with Maori supported MSD's consultation with Maori across supported MSD's consultation with Maori across the supported MSD's consultation with Maori across the country. supported MSD's consultation with Maori across the country. From supported MSD's consultation with Maori across the country. From the Maori across the country. From the hui, Maori across the country. From the hui, we Maori across the country. 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From the hui, we heard that there was clearly separate. From the hui, we heard that there was limited heard that there was limited information heard that there was limited information currently heard that there was limited information currently about information currently about complaints. information currently about complaints. The information currently about complaints. The bill information currently about complaints. The bill places information currently about complaints. The bill places a information currently about complaints. The bill places a duty complaints. The bill places a duty on complaints. The bill places a duty on the complaints. The bill places a duty on the Ombudsman complaints. The bill places a duty on the Ombudsman to complaints. The bill places a duty on the Ombudsman to ensure complaints. 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The rights of Maori and Maori children in this system and Maori children in this system have and Maori children in this system have been and Maori children in this system have been front and Maori children in this system have been front of and Maori children in this system have been front of mind and Maori children in this system have been front of mind during and Maori children in this system have been front of mind during this have been front of mind during this whole have been front of mind during this whole process have been front of mind during this whole process of have been front of mind during this whole process of development have been front of mind during this whole process of development and have been front of mind during this whole process of development and we, whole process of development and we, as whole process of development and we, as a whole process of development and we, as a Government, whole process of development and we, as a Government, are whole process of development and we, as a Government, are comfortable as a Government, are comfortable with as a Government, are comfortable with where as a Government, are comfortable with where we as a Government, are comfortable with where we have as a Government, are comfortable with where we have landed. as a Government, are comfortable with where we have landed. 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What is her Further supplementary? Yes, please. What is her response Further supplementary? Yes, please. What is her response to Further supplementary? Yes, please. What is her response to Some Further supplementary? Yes, please. 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Will the Minister strengthen Will the Minister strengthen oversight Will the Minister strengthen oversight by Will the Minister strengthen oversight by listening Will the Minister strengthen oversight by listening to Will the Minister strengthen oversight by listening to Maori Will the Minister strengthen oversight by listening to Maori to oversight by listening to Maori to have oversight by listening to Maori to have independent oversight by listening to Maori to have independent monitoring oversight by listening to Maori to have independent monitoring of have independent monitoring of Oranga have independent monitoring of Oranga Tamariki have independent monitoring of Oranga Tamariki that have independent monitoring of Oranga Tamariki that truly have independent monitoring of Oranga Tamariki that truly reflects Oranga Tamariki that truly reflects it. Oranga Tamariki that truly reflects it. Not Oranga Tamariki that truly reflects it. Not just Oranga Tamariki that truly reflects it. 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And with all due respect to table in the past. And with all due respect to the table in the past. And with all due respect to the nine table in the past. And with all due respect to the nine Children's respect to the nine Children's Commissioners respect to the nine Children's Commissioners that respect to the nine Children's Commissioners that we respect to the nine Children's Commissioners that we have respect to the nine Children's Commissioners that we have had respect to the nine Children's Commissioners that we have had over Commissioners that we have had over the Commissioners that we have had over the years, Commissioners that we have had over the years, all Commissioners that we have had over the years, all of Commissioners that we have had over the years, all of whom Commissioners that we have had over the years, all of whom have Commissioners that we have had over the years, all of whom have done Commissioners that we have had over the years, all of whom have done a the years, all of whom have done a very the years, all of whom have done a very good the years, all of whom have done a very good job, the years, all of whom have done a very good job, seven the years, all of whom have done a very good job, seven of the years, all of whom have done a very good job, seven of them the years, all of whom have done a very good job, seven of them have very good job, seven of them have not very good job, seven of them have not been very good job, seven of them have not been Maori. very good job, seven of them have not been Maori. 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Maori children and rangatiratanga. Supplementary. Maori children and rangatiratanga. Supplementary. Does Maori children and rangatiratanga. Supplementary. Does the Maori children and rangatiratanga. Supplementary. Does the Minister Supplementary. Does the Minister agree Supplementary. Does the Minister agree with Supplementary. Does the Minister agree with the Supplementary. Does the Minister agree with the Minister Supplementary. Does the Minister agree with the Minister for Supplementary. 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Question No. 4. 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Our children deserve the Oranga Tamariki system is strong. Our children deserve a strong. Our children deserve a system strong. Our children deserve a system that strong. Our children deserve a system that works strong. Our children deserve a system that works for strong. Our children deserve a system that works for them. strong. Our children deserve a system that works for them. This system that works for them. This process system that works for them. This process began system that works for them. This process began for system that works for them. This process began for this system that works for them. This process began for this bill system that works for them. This process began for this bill in system that works for them. This process began for this bill in 2018 process began for this bill in 2018 through process began for this bill in 2018 through specific process began for this bill in 2018 through specific engagement process began for this bill in 2018 through specific engagement with through specific engagement with children through specific engagement with children and through specific engagement with children and young through specific engagement with children and young people through specific engagement with children and young people to through specific engagement with children and young people to hear children and young people to hear their children and young people to hear their views, children and young people to hear their views, which children and young people to hear their views, which informs children and young people to hear their views, which informs the their views, which informs the Beattie their views, which informs the Beattie Report. their views, which informs the Beattie Report. 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We heard from children and young people that they children and young people that they currently children and young people that they currently did children and young people that they currently did not children and young people that they currently did not know children and young people that they currently did not know where children and young people that they currently did not know where to children and young people that they currently did not know where to go currently did not know where to go when currently did not know where to go when they currently did not know where to go when they had currently did not know where to go when they had a currently did not know where to go when they had a complaint. currently did not know where to go when they had a complaint. This currently did not know where to go when they had a complaint. This bill when they had a complaint. This bill makes when they had a complaint. This bill makes it when they had a complaint. This bill makes it clear when they had a complaint. This bill makes it clear that when they had a complaint. This bill makes it clear that the when they had a complaint. This bill makes it clear that the ombudsman makes it clear that the ombudsman investigates makes it clear that the ombudsman investigates complaints makes it clear that the ombudsman investigates complaints and makes it clear that the ombudsman investigates complaints and requires investigates complaints and requires them investigates complaints and requires them to investigates complaints and requires them to have investigates complaints and requires them to have a investigates complaints and requires them to have a complaints investigates complaints and requires them to have a complaints process them to have a complaints process that them to have a complaints process that is them to have a complaints process that is accessible them to have a complaints process that is accessible for them to have a complaints process that is accessible for children. them to have a complaints process that is accessible for children. We that is accessible for children. 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We heard from children and young people heard from children and young people that heard from children and young people that they heard from children and young people that they wanted heard from children and young people that they wanted advocacy heard from children and young people that they wanted advocacy services that they wanted advocacy services that that they wanted advocacy services that were that they wanted advocacy services that were diverse, that they wanted advocacy services that were diverse, epically that they wanted advocacy services that were diverse, epically and that they wanted advocacy services that were diverse, epically and in that were diverse, epically and in terms that were diverse, epically and in terms of that were diverse, epically and in terms of life that were diverse, epically and in terms of life experience. that were diverse, epically and in terms of life experience. The that were diverse, epically and in terms of life experience. 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The select committee the children's Commission. The select committee have the children's Commission. The select committee have made the children's Commission. The select committee have made further select committee have made further changes select committee have made further changes to select committee have made further changes to the select committee have made further changes to the bill select committee have made further changes to the bill in select committee have made further changes to the bill in response select committee have made further changes to the bill in response to changes to the bill in response to submissions changes to the bill in response to submissions which changes to the bill in response to submissions which include submissions which include strengthening submissions which include strengthening the submissions which include strengthening the independence submissions which include strengthening the independence of strengthening the independence of the strengthening the independence of the monitor strengthening the independence of the monitor to strengthening the independence of the monitor to adding strengthening the independence of the monitor to adding in strengthening the independence of the monitor to adding in a strengthening the independence of the monitor to adding in a duty strengthening the independence of the monitor to adding in a duty to the monitor to adding in a duty to act the monitor to adding in a duty to act independently, the monitor to adding in a duty to act independently, providing the monitor to adding in a duty to act independently, providing for the monitor to adding in a duty to act independently, providing for a act independently, providing for a named act independently, providing for a named chief act independently, providing for a named chief Children's act independently, providing for a named chief Children's Commissioner named chief Children's Commissioner who named chief Children's Commissioner who will named chief Children's Commissioner who will be named chief Children's Commissioner who will be a named chief Children's Commissioner who will be a visible, named chief Children's Commissioner who will be a visible, vocal who will be a visible, vocal advocate who will be a visible, vocal advocate for who will be a visible, vocal advocate for children who will be a visible, vocal advocate for children and who will be a visible, vocal advocate for children and young advocate for children and young people, advocate for children and young people, ensuring advocate for children and young people, ensuring the advocate for children and young people, ensuring the commission advocate for children and young people, ensuring the commission can people, ensuring the commission can report people, ensuring the commission can report directly people, ensuring the commission can report directly to people, ensuring the commission can report directly to the people, ensuring the commission can report directly to the PM. people, ensuring the commission can report directly to the PM. 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How will the minister guarantee child protection for guarantee child protection for children guarantee child protection for children in guarantee child protection for children in the guarantee child protection for children in the Oranga guarantee child protection for children in the Oranga Tamariki children in the Oranga Tamariki system children in the Oranga Tamariki system under children in the Oranga Tamariki system under the children in the Oranga Tamariki system under the new children in the Oranga Tamariki system under the new bill children in the Oranga Tamariki system under the new bill given children in the Oranga Tamariki system under the new bill given the system under the new bill given the monitor system under the new bill given the monitor is system under the new bill given the monitor is unable system under the new bill given the monitor is unable to system under the new bill given the monitor is unable to visit system under the new bill given the monitor is unable to visit Oranga monitor is unable to visit Oranga Tamariki monitor is unable to visit Oranga Tamariki care monitor is unable to visit Oranga Tamariki care and monitor is unable to visit Oranga Tamariki care and protection Tamariki care and protection residents Tamariki care and protection residents without Tamariki care and protection residents without note Tamariki care and protection residents without note leaving Tamariki care and protection residents without note leaving room residents without note leaving room for residents without note leaving room for abuse residents without note leaving room for abuse -- residents without note leaving room for abuse -- notice, residents without note leaving room for abuse -- notice, leaving residents without note leaving room for abuse -- notice, leaving room for abuse -- notice, leaving room for for abuse -- notice, leaving room for abuse for abuse -- notice, leaving room for abuse and for abuse -- notice, leaving room for abuse and harm for abuse -- notice, leaving room for abuse and harm to for abuse -- notice, leaving room for abuse and harm to children for abuse -- notice, leaving room for abuse and harm to children to for abuse and harm to children to happen for abuse and harm to children to happen as for abuse and harm to children to happen as has for abuse and harm to children to happen as has occurred for abuse and harm to children to happen as has occurred previously? happen as has occurred previously? 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As the minister I see that there is significant opportunity for there is significant opportunity for us there is significant opportunity for us to there is significant opportunity for us to better there is significant opportunity for us to better connect there is significant opportunity for us to better connect the there is significant opportunity for us to better connect the police there is significant opportunity for us to better connect the police with us to better connect the police with our us to better connect the police with our education us to better connect the police with our education providers us to better connect the police with our education providers to us to better connect the police with our education providers to help us to better connect the police with our education providers to help deal our education providers to help deal with our education providers to help deal with some our education providers to help deal with some of our education providers to help deal with some of the our education providers to help deal with some of the underlying our education providers to help deal with some of the underlying drivers with some of the underlying drivers of with some of the underlying drivers of criminal with some of the underlying drivers of criminal activity with some of the underlying drivers of criminal activity amongst with some of the underlying drivers of criminal activity amongst our of criminal activity amongst our young of criminal activity amongst our young people, of criminal activity amongst our young people, most of criminal activity amongst our young people, most notably young people, most notably disengagement young people, most notably disengagement with young people, most notably disengagement with education, disengagement with education, training disengagement with education, training and disengagement with education, training and employment. disengagement with education, training and employment. 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I note that the final data is reported to the final data is reported to the Ministry final data is reported to the Ministry of final data is reported to the Ministry of Health final data is reported to the Ministry of Health a final data is reported to the Ministry of Health a month final data is reported to the Ministry of Health a month later final data is reported to the Ministry of Health a month later so, Ministry of Health a month later so, we Ministry of Health a month later so, we won't Ministry of Health a month later so, we won't have Ministry of Health a month later so, we won't have an Ministry of Health a month later so, we won't have an accurate Ministry of Health a month later so, we won't have an accurate picture Ministry of Health a month later so, we won't have an accurate picture of we won't have an accurate picture of what we won't have an accurate picture of what has we won't have an accurate picture of what has been we won't have an accurate picture of what has been happening we won't have an accurate picture of what has been happening this we won't have an accurate picture of what has been happening this month what has been happening this month until what has been happening this month until the what has been happening this month until the end what has been happening this month until the end of what has been happening this month until the end of next what has been happening this month until the end of next month. what has been happening this month until the end of next month. 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When National handed over in 2017-2018, Supplementary. When National handed over in 2017-2018, was Supplementary. When National handed over in 2017-2018, was the Supplementary. When National handed over in 2017-2018, was the 6-hour Supplementary. When National handed over in 2017-2018, was the 6-hour ED over in 2017-2018, was the 6-hour ED wait over in 2017-2018, was the 6-hour ED wait time over in 2017-2018, was the 6-hour ED wait time better over in 2017-2018, was the 6-hour ED wait time better than over in 2017-2018, was the 6-hour ED wait time better than 90% over in 2017-2018, was the 6-hour ED wait time better than 90% against wait time better than 90% against target? wait time better than 90% against target? And wait time better than 90% against target? And what wait time better than 90% against target? And what responsibility wait time better than 90% against target? And what responsibility does target? And what responsibility does he target? And what responsibility does he take target? And what responsibility does he take for target? And what responsibility does he take for the target? And what responsibility does he take for the 74.1% target? And what responsibility does he take for the 74.1% figure target? And what responsibility does he take for the 74.1% figure he's he take for the 74.1% figure he's given he take for the 74.1% figure he's given to he take for the 74.1% figure he's given to this he take for the 74.1% figure he's given to this House he take for the 74.1% figure he's given to this House today? he take for the 74.1% figure he's given to this House today? No, he take for the 74.1% figure he's given to this House today? No, the given to this House today? No, the target, given to this House today? No, the target, or given to this House today? No, the target, or the given to this House today? No, the target, or the target given to this House today? No, the target, or the target number given to this House today? No, the target, or the target number has target, or the target number has fallen target, or the target number has fallen over target, or the target number has fallen over the target, or the target number has fallen over the last target, or the target number has fallen over the last five target, or the target number has fallen over the last five years, target, or the target number has fallen over the last five years, and fallen over the last five years, and that fallen over the last five years, and that is fallen over the last five years, and that is largely fallen over the last five years, and that is largely as fallen over the last five years, and that is largely as a fallen over the last five years, and that is largely as a consequence fallen over the last five years, and that is largely as a consequence of that is largely as a consequence of the that is largely as a consequence of the response that is largely as a consequence of the response to that is largely as a consequence of the response to COVID that is largely as a consequence of the response to COVID that that is largely as a consequence of the response to COVID that caused that is largely as a consequence of the response to COVID that caused a the response to COVID that caused a major, the response to COVID that caused a major, a the response to COVID that caused a major, a major the response to COVID that caused a major, a major difference. the response to COVID that caused a major, a major difference. 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And is a system under greater pressure. And in is a system under greater pressure. And in winter, is a system under greater pressure. And in winter, when is a system under greater pressure. And in winter, when we is a system under greater pressure. And in winter, when we have is a system under greater pressure. And in winter, when we have a is a system under greater pressure. And in winter, when we have a flu And in winter, when we have a flu season And in winter, when we have a flu season such And in winter, when we have a flu season such as And in winter, when we have a flu season such as we And in winter, when we have a flu season such as we have And in winter, when we have a flu season such as we have not And in winter, when we have a flu season such as we have not had And in winter, when we have a flu season such as we have not had for season such as we have not had for at season such as we have not had for at least season such as we have not had for at least three season such as we have not had for at least three years, season such as we have not had for at least three years, that season such as we have not had for at least three years, that is at least three years, that is putting at least three years, that is putting even at least three years, that is putting even more at least three years, that is putting even more pressure at least three years, that is putting even more pressure on at least three years, that is putting even more pressure on the putting even more pressure on the system putting even more pressure on the system and putting even more pressure on the system and that's putting even more pressure on the system and that's reflected putting even more pressure on the system and that's reflected in putting even more pressure on the system and that's reflected in these system and that's reflected in these measures. system and that's reflected in these measures. 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Does he agree that people being made to wait agree that people being made to wait as agree that people being made to wait as long agree that people being made to wait as long as agree that people being made to wait as long as 32 agree that people being made to wait as long as 32 hours agree that people being made to wait as long as 32 hours in agree that people being made to wait as long as 32 hours in the agree that people being made to wait as long as 32 hours in the emergency as long as 32 hours in the emergency department as long as 32 hours in the emergency department and as long as 32 hours in the emergency department and elective as long as 32 hours in the emergency department and elective surgeries department and elective surgeries being department and elective surgeries being cancelled department and elective surgeries being cancelled due department and elective surgeries being cancelled due to department and elective surgeries being cancelled due to unsafe being cancelled due to unsafe standing being cancelled due to unsafe standing levels being cancelled due to unsafe standing levels are being cancelled due to unsafe standing levels are both being cancelled due to unsafe standing levels are both signs being cancelled due to unsafe standing levels are both signs that standing levels are both signs that the standing levels are both signs that the health standing levels are both signs that the health system standing levels are both signs that the health system is, standing levels are both signs that the health system is, in standing levels are both signs that the health system is, in fact, standing levels are both signs that the health system is, in fact, not the health system is, in fact, not coping the health system is, in fact, not coping as the health system is, in fact, not coping as a the health system is, in fact, not coping as a whole? the health system is, in fact, not coping as a whole? 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for COVID-19 My question is to the Minister for COVID-19 Response: My question is to the Minister for COVID-19 Response: What My question is to the Minister for COVID-19 Response: What recent for COVID-19 Response: What recent announcements for COVID-19 Response: What recent announcements has for COVID-19 Response: What recent announcements has she for COVID-19 Response: What recent announcements has she made announcements has she made about announcements has she made about reconnecting announcements has she made about reconnecting New announcements has she made about reconnecting New Zealanders about reconnecting New Zealanders to about reconnecting New Zealanders to the about reconnecting New Zealanders to the world? 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I'm happy to say we've been able to bring the timeline forward able to bring the timeline forward as able to bring the timeline forward as COVID-19 able to bring the timeline forward as COVID-19 cases able to bring the timeline forward as COVID-19 cases have able to bring the timeline forward as COVID-19 cases have continued able to bring the timeline forward as COVID-19 cases have continued to as COVID-19 cases have continued to decrease, as COVID-19 cases have continued to decrease, despite as COVID-19 cases have continued to decrease, despite nearly as COVID-19 cases have continued to decrease, despite nearly 400,000 decrease, despite nearly 400,000 arrivals decrease, despite nearly 400,000 arrivals since decrease, despite nearly 400,000 arrivals since the decrease, despite nearly 400,000 arrivals since the border decrease, despite nearly 400,000 arrivals since the border reopened. arrivals since the border reopened. Of arrivals since the border reopened. Of those arrivals since the border reopened. Of those arrivals, arrivals since the border reopened. Of those arrivals, 90% arrivals since the border reopened. Of those arrivals, 90% are Of those arrivals, 90% are undertaking Of those arrivals, 90% are undertaking the Of those arrivals, 90% are undertaking the required Of those arrivals, 90% are undertaking the required testing undertaking the required testing once undertaking the required testing once they're undertaking the required testing once they're in undertaking the required testing once they're in the undertaking the required testing once they're in the country, undertaking the required testing once they're in the country, and once they're in the country, and only once they're in the country, and only a once they're in the country, and only a fraction once they're in the country, and only a fraction of once they're in the country, and only a fraction of those once they're in the country, and only a fraction of those are only a fraction of those are returning only a fraction of those are returning positive only a fraction of those are returning positive results. only a fraction of those are returning positive results. Mr returning positive results. Mr Speaker, returning positive results. Mr Speaker, removing returning positive results. Mr Speaker, removing pre-departure Speaker, removing pre-departure testing Speaker, removing pre-departure testing is Speaker, removing pre-departure testing is just Speaker, removing pre-departure testing is just one Speaker, removing pre-departure testing is just one more Speaker, removing pre-departure testing is just one more step Speaker, removing pre-departure testing is just one more step that testing is just one more step that the testing is just one more step that the Government testing is just one more step that the Government is testing is just one more step that the Government is taking testing is just one more step that the Government is taking to testing is just one more step that the Government is taking to safely the Government is taking to safely reconnect the Government is taking to safely reconnect New the Government is taking to safely reconnect New Zealanders the Government is taking to safely reconnect New Zealanders to the Government is taking to safely reconnect New Zealanders to the reconnect New Zealanders to the world. reconnect New Zealanders to the world. Supplementary. reconnect New Zealanders to the world. Supplementary. Why reconnect New Zealanders to the world. Supplementary. Why has reconnect New Zealanders to the world. Supplementary. Why has the world. Supplementary. Why has the Government world. Supplementary. Why has the Government removed world. Supplementary. Why has the Government removed pre-departure Government removed pre-departure tests? Government removed pre-departure tests? The Government removed pre-departure tests? The Government Government removed pre-departure tests? The Government has Government removed pre-departure tests? The Government has been Government removed pre-departure tests? The Government has been aware tests? The Government has been aware of tests? The Government has been aware of the tests? The Government has been aware of the challenges tests? The Government has been aware of the challenges that tests? The Government has been aware of the challenges that pre-departure of the challenges that pre-departure testing of the challenges that pre-departure testing is of the challenges that pre-departure testing is posing of the challenges that pre-departure testing is posing to of the challenges that pre-departure testing is posing to those of the challenges that pre-departure testing is posing to those wishing testing is posing to those wishing to testing is posing to those wishing to travel testing is posing to those wishing to travel to testing is posing to those wishing to travel to New testing is posing to those wishing to travel to New Zealand. testing is posing to those wishing to travel to New Zealand. This to travel to New Zealand. This includes to travel to New Zealand. This includes the to travel to New Zealand. This includes the availability to travel to New Zealand. This includes the availability and to travel to New Zealand. 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Supplementary. tools in place to detect if a change occurs. Supplementary. What tools in place to detect if a change occurs. Supplementary. What other occurs. Supplementary. What other protections occurs. Supplementary. What other protections remain occurs. Supplementary. What other protections remain at occurs. Supplementary. What other protections remain at the occurs. Supplementary. What other protections remain at the border? protections remain at the border? While protections remain at the border? While we protections remain at the border? While we are protections remain at the border? While we are removing protections remain at the border? While we are removing the protections remain at the border? While we are removing the need protections remain at the border? 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This detect any possible new variants of COVID-19. This includes detect any possible new variants of COVID-19. This includes retaining COVID-19. This includes retaining the COVID-19. This includes retaining the requirement COVID-19. This includes retaining the requirement for COVID-19. This includes retaining the requirement for self COVID-19. This includes retaining the requirement for self tests COVID-19. This includes retaining the requirement for self tests on the requirement for self tests on day the requirement for self tests on day 0, the requirement for self tests on day 0, 1, the requirement for self tests on day 0, 1, and the requirement for self tests on day 0, 1, and 5/6 the requirement for self tests on day 0, 1, and 5/6 and the requirement for self tests on day 0, 1, and 5/6 and a the requirement for self tests on day 0, 1, and 5/6 and a following day 0, 1, and 5/6 and a following rapid day 0, 1, and 5/6 and a following rapid antigen day 0, 1, and 5/6 and a following rapid antigen tests day 0, 1, and 5/6 and a following rapid antigen tests if day 0, 1, and 5/6 and a following rapid antigen tests if either day 0, 1, and 5/6 and a following rapid antigen tests if either of rapid antigen tests if either of them rapid antigen tests if either of them are rapid antigen tests if either of them are positive. rapid antigen tests if either of them are positive. 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