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INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: Almighty INTERPRETER: Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance that we may and pray for guidance that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. 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The The legislation The legislation the The legislation the House The legislation the House will The legislation the House will consider The legislation the House will consider next The legislation the House will consider next week The legislation the House will consider next week will The legislation the House will consider next week will include The legislation the House will consider next week will include the consider next week will include the remaining consider next week will include the remaining stages consider next week will include the remaining stages of consider next week will include the remaining stages of the remaining stages of the Appropriation remaining stages of the Appropriation Supplementary Appropriation Supplementary Estimates Appropriation Supplementary Estimates Bill, Appropriation Supplementary Estimates Bill, the Appropriation Supplementary Estimates Bill, the Commerce Estimates Bill, the Commerce (Grocery Estimates Bill, the Commerce (Grocery Sector Estimates Bill, the Commerce (Grocery Sector Covenants) Estimates Bill, the Commerce (Grocery Sector Covenants) Amendment (Grocery Sector Covenants) Amendment Bill (Grocery Sector Covenants) Amendment Bill and (Grocery Sector Covenants) Amendment Bill and the (Grocery Sector Covenants) Amendment Bill and the Local (Grocery Sector Covenants) Amendment Bill and the Local Electoral Bill and the Local Electoral Advertising Bill and the Local Electoral Advertising Amendment Bill and the Local Electoral Advertising Amendment Bill Bill and the Local Electoral Advertising Amendment Bill and Bill and the Local Electoral Advertising Amendment Bill and the Advertising Amendment Bill and the first Advertising Amendment Bill and the first readings Advertising Amendment Bill and the first readings of Advertising Amendment Bill and the first readings of bills Advertising Amendment Bill and the first readings of bills introduced first readings of bills introduced this first readings of bills introduced this week. first readings of bills introduced this week. The first readings of bills introduced this week. The House first readings of bills introduced this week. The House will first readings of bills introduced this week. The House will debate this week. The House will debate motions this week. The House will debate motions to this week. The House will debate motions to continue this week. The House will debate motions to continue the this week. The House will debate motions to continue the COVID-19 motions to continue the COVID-19 Health motions to continue the COVID-19 Health Response motions to continue the COVID-19 Health Response Act motions to continue the COVID-19 Health Response Act 2020 motions to continue the COVID-19 Health Response Act 2020 and motions to continue the COVID-19 Health Response Act 2020 and to Health Response Act 2020 and to confirm Health Response Act 2020 and to confirm orders Health Response Act 2020 and to confirm orders made Health Response Act 2020 and to confirm orders made under Health Response Act 2020 and to confirm orders made under that Health Response Act 2020 and to confirm orders made under that act. confirm orders made under that act. Wednesday confirm orders made under that act. Wednesday 29 confirm orders made under that act. Wednesday 29 will confirm orders made under that act. Wednesday 29 will be confirm orders made under that act. Wednesday 29 will be a confirm orders made under that act. Wednesday 29 will be a members' confirm orders made under that act. Wednesday 29 will be a members' day. Wednesday 29 will be a members' day. The Wednesday 29 will be a members' day. The Hon Wednesday 29 will be a members' day. The Hon Michael Wednesday 29 will be a members' day. The Hon Michael Woodhouse. Wednesday 29 will be a members' day. The Hon Michael Woodhouse. I Wednesday 29 will be a members' day. The Hon Michael Woodhouse. I thank The Hon Michael Woodhouse. I thank the The Hon Michael Woodhouse. I thank the Leader The Hon Michael Woodhouse. I thank the Leader of The Hon Michael Woodhouse. I thank the Leader of the The Hon Michael Woodhouse. I thank the Leader of the House The Hon Michael Woodhouse. I thank the Leader of the House for The Hon Michael Woodhouse. I thank the Leader of the House for that the Leader of the House for that update. the Leader of the House for that update. 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And how does he reconcile that analysis how does he reconcile that analysis with how does he reconcile that analysis with the how does he reconcile that analysis with the cost-of-living how does he reconcile that analysis with the cost-of-living crisis how does he reconcile that analysis with the cost-of-living crisis and with the cost-of-living crisis and the with the cost-of-living crisis and the growing with the cost-of-living crisis and the growing instability with the cost-of-living crisis and the growing instability in with the cost-of-living crisis and the growing instability in the with the cost-of-living crisis and the growing instability in the New the growing instability in the New Zealand the growing instability in the New Zealand economy? the growing instability in the New Zealand economy? I the growing instability in the New Zealand economy? I stand the growing instability in the New Zealand economy? I stand by the growing instability in the New Zealand economy? 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Te Ara Oranga was successfully piloted in Oranga was successfully piloted in Northland Oranga was successfully piloted in Northland and Oranga was successfully piloted in Northland and has Oranga was successfully piloted in Northland and has been Oranga was successfully piloted in Northland and has been acknowledged Northland and has been acknowledged as Northland and has been acknowledged as a Northland and has been acknowledged as a game Northland and has been acknowledged as a game changer Northland and has been acknowledged as a game changer in Northland and has been acknowledged as a game changer in the Northland and has been acknowledged as a game changer in the fight as a game changer in the fight against as a game changer in the fight against methamphetamine as a game changer in the fight against methamphetamine and against methamphetamine and drug-related against methamphetamine and drug-related crime. against methamphetamine and drug-related crime. Demand against methamphetamine and drug-related crime. Demand for drug-related crime. Demand for adirection drug-related crime. Demand for adirection treatment drug-related crime. Demand for adirection treatment services drug-related crime. Demand for adirection treatment services has adirection treatment services has grown adirection treatment services has grown steadily adirection treatment services has grown steadily in adirection treatment services has grown steadily in the adirection treatment services has grown steadily in the past adirection treatment services has grown steadily in the past decade grown steadily in the past decade and grown steadily in the past decade and we grown steadily in the past decade and we need grown steadily in the past decade and we need to grown steadily in the past decade and we need to do grown steadily in the past decade and we need to do more grown steadily in the past decade and we need to do more to grown steadily in the past decade and we need to do more to support and we need to do more to support people and we need to do more to support people and and we need to do more to support people and communities and we need to do more to support people and communities struggling people and communities struggling with people and communities struggling with drugs people and communities struggling with drugs to people and communities struggling with drugs to get people and communities struggling with drugs to get the people and communities struggling with drugs to get the wrap-around with drugs to get the wrap-around support with drugs to get the wrap-around support that with drugs to get the wrap-around support that they with drugs to get the wrap-around support that they need. support that they need. Supplementary support that they need. Supplementary to support that they need. Supplementary to the support that they need. Supplementary to the Minister. support that they need. Supplementary to the Minister. What Supplementary to the Minister. What does Supplementary to the Minister. What does the Supplementary to the Minister. What does the Te Supplementary to the Minister. What does the Te Ara Supplementary to the Minister. What does the Te Ara Oranga Supplementary to the Minister. What does the Te Ara Oranga programme does the Te Ara Oranga programme consist does the Te Ara Oranga programme consist of? does the Te Ara Oranga programme consist of? Mr does the Te Ara Oranga programme consist of? Mr Speaker, does the Te Ara Oranga programme consist of? Mr Speaker, Te does the Te Ara Oranga programme consist of? Mr Speaker, Te Ara consist of? Mr Speaker, Te Ara Oranga consist of? Mr Speaker, Te Ara Oranga is consist of? Mr Speaker, Te Ara Oranga is a consist of? 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It gives methamphetamine users and iwi service-providers. It gives methamphetamine users the methamphetamine users the opportunity methamphetamine users the opportunity to methamphetamine users the opportunity to get methamphetamine users the opportunity to get culturally opportunity to get culturally appropriate opportunity to get culturally appropriate help. opportunity to get culturally appropriate help. It's opportunity to get culturally appropriate help. It's an opportunity to get culturally appropriate help. It's an example opportunity to get culturally appropriate help. It's an example of appropriate help. It's an example of a appropriate help. It's an example of a community-wide appropriate help. It's an example of a community-wide programme appropriate help. It's an example of a community-wide programme that a community-wide programme that works a community-wide programme that works and a community-wide programme that works and changes a community-wide programme that works and changes lives a community-wide programme that works and changes lives and a community-wide programme that works and changes lives and we a community-wide programme that works and changes lives and we want works and changes lives and we want more works and changes lives and we want more New works and changes lives and we want more New Zealanders works and changes lives and we want more New Zealanders to works and changes lives and we want more New Zealanders to benefit works and changes lives and we want more New Zealanders to benefit from more New Zealanders to benefit from it. more New Zealanders to benefit from it. What more New Zealanders to benefit from it. What are more New Zealanders to benefit from it. What are some more New Zealanders to benefit from it. What are some of more New Zealanders to benefit from it. What are some of the more New Zealanders to benefit from it. What are some of the benefits more New Zealanders to benefit from it. What are some of the benefits of it. What are some of the benefits of Te it. What are some of the benefits of Te Ara it. What are some of the benefits of Te Ara Oranga. it. What are some of the benefits of Te Ara Oranga. More it. What are some of the benefits of Te Ara Oranga. More than it. What are some of the benefits of Te Ara Oranga. More than 3,000 Te Ara Oranga. More than 3,000 Northland Te Ara Oranga. More than 3,000 Northland people Te Ara Oranga. More than 3,000 Northland people and Te Ara Oranga. More than 3,000 Northland people and their Te Ara Oranga. More than 3,000 Northland people and their whanau Northland people and their whanau have Northland people and their whanau have been Northland people and their whanau have been helped Northland people and their whanau have been helped since Northland people and their whanau have been helped since the Northland people and their whanau have been helped since the programme have been helped since the programme was have been helped since the programme was first have been helped since the programme was first started. have been helped since the programme was first started. For have been helped since the programme was first started. For every have been helped since the programme was first started. For every dollar was first started. For every dollar spent was first started. For every dollar spent on was first started. For every dollar spent on the was first started. For every dollar spent on the programme, was first started. For every dollar spent on the programme, there's was first started. For every dollar spent on the programme, there's been spent on the programme, there's been a spent on the programme, there's been a return spent on the programme, there's been a return of spent on the programme, there's been a return of between spent on the programme, there's been a return of between $3 spent on the programme, there's been a return of between $3 and spent on the programme, there's been a return of between $3 and $7 spent on the programme, there's been a return of between $3 and $7 and spent on the programme, there's been a return of between $3 and $7 and a a return of between $3 and $7 and a 34% a return of between $3 and $7 and a 34% reduction a return of between $3 and $7 and a 34% reduction in a return of between $3 and $7 and a 34% reduction in drug-related a return of between $3 and $7 and a 34% reduction in drug-related crime. 34% reduction in drug-related crime. The 34% reduction in drug-related crime. The eastern 34% reduction in drug-related crime. The eastern Bay 34% reduction in drug-related crime. The eastern Bay of 34% reduction in drug-related crime. The eastern Bay of Plenty 34% reduction in drug-related crime. The eastern Bay of Plenty region 34% reduction in drug-related crime. The eastern Bay of Plenty region has The eastern Bay of Plenty region has been The eastern Bay of Plenty region has been identified The eastern Bay of Plenty region has been identified as The eastern Bay of Plenty region has been identified as a The eastern Bay of Plenty region has been identified as a community been identified as a community experiencing been identified as a community experiencing a been identified as a community experiencing a high been identified as a community experiencing a high level been identified as a community experiencing a high level of experiencing a high level of drug-related experiencing a high level of drug-related harm. experiencing a high level of drug-related harm. It experiencing a high level of drug-related harm. It has experiencing a high level of drug-related harm. It has higher drug-related harm. It has higher than drug-related harm. It has higher than average drug-related harm. It has higher than average methamphetamine drug-related harm. It has higher than average methamphetamine use drug-related harm. It has higher than average methamphetamine use and than average methamphetamine use and possession-related than average methamphetamine use and possession-related offences, than average methamphetamine use and possession-related offences, waste possession-related offences, waste water possession-related offences, waste water testing possession-related offences, waste water testing results possession-related offences, waste water testing results and possession-related offences, waste water testing results and the water testing results and the proportion water testing results and the proportion of water testing results and the proportion of people water testing results and the proportion of people seeking water testing results and the proportion of people seeking help water testing results and the proportion of people seeking help to proportion of people seeking help to get proportion of people seeking help to get on proportion of people seeking help to get on top proportion of people seeking help to get on top of proportion of people seeking help to get on top of drug proportion of people seeking help to get on top of drug addictions. proportion of people seeking help to get on top of drug addictions. This get on top of drug addictions. This Government get on top of drug addictions. This Government is get on top of drug addictions. This Government is committed get on top of drug addictions. This Government is committed to get on top of drug addictions. This Government is committed to a Government is committed to a health-based Government is committed to a health-based response Government is committed to a health-based response to Government is committed to a health-based response to those Government is committed to a health-based response to those who health-based response to those who experience health-based response to those who experience drug health-based response to those who experience drug addiction health-based response to those who experience drug addiction and health-based response to those who experience drug addiction and making experience drug addiction and making the experience drug addiction and making the benefits experience drug addiction and making the benefits of the the benefits of the Te Ara Oranga the benefits of the the benefits of the Te Ara Oranga available in the eastern Bay of the benefits of the Te Ara Oranga Plenty is part the benefits of the Te Ara Oranga Plenty is part of that. ... 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I was also pleased to announce significant also pleased to announce significant progress also pleased to announce significant progress on also pleased to announce significant progress on a also pleased to announce significant progress on a range also pleased to announce significant progress on a range of also pleased to announce significant progress on a range of topics, progress on a range of topics, including progress on a range of topics, including a progress on a range of topics, including a package progress on a range of topics, including a package of progress on a range of topics, including a package of response progress on a range of topics, including a package of response to including a package of response to future including a package of response to future emergencies including a package of response to future emergencies including future emergencies including pandemics, future emergencies including pandemics, which future emergencies including pandemics, which build future emergencies including pandemics, which build on future emergencies including pandemics, which build on the pandemics, which build on the lessons pandemics, which build on the lessons of pandemics, which build on the lessons of our pandemics, which build on the lessons of our respective lessons of our respective experiences lessons of our respective experiences in lessons of our respective experiences in responding lessons of our respective experiences in responding to experiences in responding to COVID-19. experiences in responding to COVID-19. This experiences in responding to COVID-19. This includes experiences in responding to COVID-19. This includes a experiences in responding to COVID-19. This includes a partial COVID-19. This includes a partial trips COVID-19. This includes a partial trips waiver COVID-19. This includes a partial trips waiver on COVID-19. This includes a partial trips waiver on COVID-19 COVID-19. This includes a partial trips waiver on COVID-19 vaccines trips waiver on COVID-19 vaccines which trips waiver on COVID-19 vaccines which is trips waiver on COVID-19 vaccines which is designed trips waiver on COVID-19 vaccines which is designed to trips waiver on COVID-19 vaccines which is designed to facilitate trips waiver on COVID-19 vaccines which is designed to facilitate the which is designed to facilitate the distribution which is designed to facilitate the distribution of which is designed to facilitate the distribution of vaccines which is designed to facilitate the distribution of vaccines in distribution of vaccines in developing distribution of vaccines in developing countries. distribution of vaccines in developing countries. This distribution of vaccines in developing countries. This was distribution of vaccines in developing countries. This was a developing countries. This was a priority developing countries. This was a priority for developing countries. This was a priority for New developing countries. This was a priority for New Zealand developing countries. This was a priority for New Zealand and developing countries. This was a priority for New Zealand and should priority for New Zealand and should see priority for New Zealand and should see us priority for New Zealand and should see us make priority for New Zealand and should see us make further priority for New Zealand and should see us make further progress priority for New Zealand and should see us make further progress on see us make further progress on ensuring see us make further progress on ensuring vaccination see us make further progress on ensuring vaccination rates see us make further progress on ensuring vaccination rates are ensuring vaccination rates are lifted ensuring vaccination rates are lifted around ensuring vaccination rates are lifted around the ensuring vaccination rates are lifted around the world. ensuring vaccination rates are lifted around the world. I ensuring vaccination rates are lifted around the world. I was lifted around the world. I was pleased lifted around the world. I was pleased to lifted around the world. I was pleased to announce lifted around the world. I was pleased to announce that lifted around the world. I was pleased to announce that New lifted around the world. I was pleased to announce that New Zealand pleased to announce that New Zealand contributed pleased to announce that New Zealand contributed to pleased to announce that New Zealand contributed to a pleased to announce that New Zealand contributed to a positive pleased to announce that New Zealand contributed to a positive outcome pleased to announce that New Zealand contributed to a positive outcome in contributed to a positive outcome in renewing contributed to a positive outcome in renewing the contributed to a positive outcome in renewing the e-commerce contributed to a positive outcome in renewing the e-commerce moratorium renewing the e-commerce moratorium until renewing the e-commerce moratorium until the renewing the e-commerce moratorium until the next renewing the e-commerce moratorium until the next Ministerial until the next Ministerial conference. until the next Ministerial conference. This until the next Ministerial conference. This continues until the next Ministerial conference. This continues the conference. This continues the long-standing conference. This continues the long-standing practice conference. This continues the long-standing practice of conference. This continues the long-standing practice of not long-standing practice of not applying long-standing practice of not applying tariffs long-standing practice of not applying tariffs or long-standing practice of not applying tariffs or duties long-standing practice of not applying tariffs or duties to applying tariffs or duties to electronic applying tariffs or duties to electronic transmissions applying tariffs or duties to electronic transmissions and applying tariffs or duties to electronic transmissions and a applying tariffs or duties to electronic transmissions and a key electronic transmissions and a key enabler electronic transmissions and a key enabler for electronic transmissions and a key enabler for protecting electronic transmissions and a key enabler for protecting global enabler for protecting global digital enabler for protecting global digital trade, enabler for protecting global digital trade, particularly enabler for protecting global digital trade, particularly in enabler for protecting global digital trade, particularly in times digital trade, particularly in times of digital trade, particularly in times of the digital trade, particularly in times of the pandemic. of the pandemic. Were of the pandemic. Were all of the pandemic. Were all of of the pandemic. Were all of New of the pandemic. Were all of New Zealand's of the pandemic. Were all of New Zealand's goals of the pandemic. Were all of New Zealand's goals for Were all of New Zealand's goals for the Were all of New Zealand's goals for the conference Were all of New Zealand's goals for the conference achieved? Were all of New Zealand's goals for the conference achieved? Mr Were all of New Zealand's goals for the conference achieved? Mr Speaker, the conference achieved? Mr Speaker, as the conference achieved? Mr Speaker, as I've the conference achieved? Mr Speaker, as I've said, the conference achieved? Mr Speaker, as I've said, there the conference achieved? Mr Speaker, as I've said, there were the conference achieved? Mr Speaker, as I've said, there were significant as I've said, there were significant and as I've said, there were significant and positive as I've said, there were significant and positive outcomes. as I've said, there were significant and positive outcomes. However, and positive outcomes. However, negotiators and positive outcomes. However, negotiators were and positive outcomes. However, negotiators were unable and positive outcomes. However, negotiators were unable to and positive outcomes. However, negotiators were unable to find negotiators were unable to find agreement negotiators were unable to find agreement on negotiators were unable to find agreement on all negotiators were unable to find agreement on all disciplines... agreement on all disciplines... Order! agreement on all disciplines... Order! Some agreement on all disciplines... Order! Some of agreement on all disciplines... Order! Some of us agreement on all disciplines... Order! Some of us are agreement on all disciplines... Order! Some of us are interested. Order! Some of us are interested. Thank Order! Some of us are interested. Thank you, Order! Some of us are interested. Thank you, Mr Order! Some of us are interested. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. We Thank you, Mr Speaker. We were Thank you, Mr Speaker. We were disappointed Thank you, Mr Speaker. We were disappointed with Thank you, Mr Speaker. We were disappointed with the We were disappointed with the failure We were disappointed with the failure to We were disappointed with the failure to make We were disappointed with the failure to make significant We were disappointed with the failure to make significant progress failure to make significant progress on failure to make significant progress on agricultural failure to make significant progress on agricultural subsidies failure to make significant progress on agricultural subsidies reform failure to make significant progress on agricultural subsidies reform but on agricultural subsidies reform but WTO on agricultural subsidies reform but WTO members on agricultural subsidies reform but WTO members have on agricultural subsidies reform but WTO members have agreed on agricultural subsidies reform but WTO members have agreed to on agricultural subsidies reform but WTO members have agreed to continue WTO members have agreed to continue negotiations WTO members have agreed to continue negotiations on WTO members have agreed to continue negotiations on these WTO members have agreed to continue negotiations on these important negotiations on these important issues negotiations on these important issues ahead negotiations on these important issues ahead of negotiations on these important issues ahead of the negotiations on these important issues ahead of the next negotiations on these important issues ahead of the next WTO issues ahead of the next WTO Ministerial issues ahead of the next WTO Ministerial meeting issues ahead of the next WTO Ministerial meeting which issues ahead of the next WTO Ministerial meeting which is Ministerial meeting which is expected Ministerial meeting which is expected to Ministerial meeting which is expected to be Ministerial meeting which is expected to be held Ministerial meeting which is expected to be held next Ministerial meeting which is expected to be held next year Ministerial meeting which is expected to be held next year where expected to be held next year where New expected to be held next year where New Zealand expected to be held next year where New Zealand will expected to be held next year where New Zealand will continue expected to be held next year where New Zealand will continue to expected to be held next year where New Zealand will continue to push New Zealand will continue to push for New Zealand will continue to push for the New Zealand will continue to push for the removal New Zealand will continue to push for the removal of New Zealand will continue to push for the removal of harmful for the removal of harmful agricultural for the removal of harmful agricultural subsidies. for the removal of harmful agricultural subsidies. The agricultural subsidies. The negotiations agricultural subsidies. The negotiations took agricultural subsidies. The negotiations took place agricultural subsidies. The negotiations took place at agricultural subsidies. The negotiations took place at a agricultural subsidies. The negotiations took place at a time negotiations took place at a time when negotiations took place at a time when the negotiations took place at a time when the world negotiations took place at a time when the world is negotiations took place at a time when the world is emerging negotiations took place at a time when the world is emerging from negotiations took place at a time when the world is emerging from a when the world is emerging from a global when the world is emerging from a global pandemic, when the world is emerging from a global pandemic, as when the world is emerging from a global pandemic, as well when the world is emerging from a global pandemic, as well as when the world is emerging from a global pandemic, as well as dealing global pandemic, as well as dealing with global pandemic, as well as dealing with rising global pandemic, as well as dealing with rising geopolitical global pandemic, as well as dealing with rising geopolitical tensions with rising geopolitical tensions and with rising geopolitical tensions and all with rising geopolitical tensions and all 164 with rising geopolitical tensions and all 164 countries with rising geopolitical tensions and all 164 countries were with rising geopolitical tensions and all 164 countries were pleased and all 164 countries were pleased that and all 164 countries were pleased that outcomes and all 164 countries were pleased that outcomes were and all 164 countries were pleased that outcomes were achieved. and all 164 countries were pleased that outcomes were achieved. This that outcomes were achieved. This does that outcomes were achieved. This does provide that outcomes were achieved. This does provide a that outcomes were achieved. This does provide a much-needed that outcomes were achieved. This does provide a much-needed boost that outcomes were achieved. This does provide a much-needed boost for does provide a much-needed boost for multilateralism. multilateralism. Question multilateralism. Question No. multilateralism. Question No. 7, multilateralism. Question No. 7, the multilateralism. Question No. 7, the Hon multilateralism. Question No. 7, the Hon Louise Question No. 7, the Hon Louise Upston. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Social My question is to the Minister for Social Development My question is to the Minister for Social Development and My question is to the Minister for Social Development and Employment: Social Development and Employment: What Social Development and Employment: What is Social Development and Employment: What is the Social Development and Employment: What is the percentage Social Development and Employment: What is the percentage increase, Social Development and Employment: What is the percentage increase, if What is the percentage increase, if any, What is the percentage increase, if any, in What is the percentage increase, if any, in the What is the percentage increase, if any, in the number What is the percentage increase, if any, in the number of What is the percentage increase, if any, in the number of people What is the percentage increase, if any, in the number of people in any, in the number of people in receipt any, in the number of people in receipt of any, in the number of people in receipt of jobseeker any, in the number of people in receipt of jobseeker support any, in the number of people in receipt of jobseeker support for receipt of jobseeker support for three receipt of jobseeker support for three to receipt of jobseeker support for three to five receipt of jobseeker support for three to five years receipt of jobseeker support for three to five years in receipt of jobseeker support for three to five years in consecutive three to five years in consecutive duration three to five years in consecutive duration when three to five years in consecutive duration when comparing three to five years in consecutive duration when comparing the three to five years in consecutive duration when comparing the March duration when comparing the March 2022 duration when comparing the March 2022 to duration when comparing the March 2022 to the duration when comparing the March 2022 to the September duration when comparing the March 2022 to the September 2017 duration when comparing the March 2022 to the September 2017 quarter? The The Hon The Hon Carmel The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. As The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. As the The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. As the member The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. As the member has The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. As the member has been The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. As the member has been made The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. As the member has been made aware, The Hon Carmel Sepuloni. As the member has been made aware, there member has been made aware, there was member has been made aware, there was a member has been made aware, there was a minor member has been made aware, there was a minor administrative member has been made aware, there was a minor administrative area member has been made aware, there was a minor administrative area in was a minor administrative area in WPQ12331. was a minor administrative area in WPQ12331. The was a minor administrative area in WPQ12331. The correct was a minor administrative area in WPQ12331. The correct number was a minor administrative area in WPQ12331. The correct number of WPQ12331. The correct number of people WPQ12331. The correct number of people who WPQ12331. The correct number of people who had WPQ12331. The correct number of people who had been WPQ12331. The correct number of people who had been receiving WPQ12331. The correct number of people who had been receiving a WPQ12331. The correct number of people who had been receiving a main people who had been receiving a main benefit people who had been receiving a main benefit for people who had been receiving a main benefit for 3 people who had been receiving a main benefit for 3 to people who had been receiving a main benefit for 3 to 5 people who had been receiving a main benefit for 3 to 5 years people who had been receiving a main benefit for 3 to 5 years as people who had been receiving a main benefit for 3 to 5 years as at benefit for 3 to 5 years as at September benefit for 3 to 5 years as at September 2017 benefit for 3 to 5 years as at September 2017 was benefit for 3 to 5 years as at September 2017 was 11,955. benefit for 3 to 5 years as at September 2017 was 11,955. Of benefit for 3 to 5 years as at September 2017 was 11,955. Of those, September 2017 was 11,955. Of those, 6,900 September 2017 was 11,955. Of those, 6,900 received September 2017 was 11,955. Of those, 6,900 received the September 2017 was 11,955. Of those, 6,900 received the health September 2017 was 11,955. Of those, 6,900 received the health and 6,900 received the health and disability 6,900 received the health and disability exemption 6,900 received the health and disability exemption and 6,900 received the health and disability exemption and 5,058 6,900 received the health and disability exemption and 5,058 were disability exemption and 5,058 were considered disability exemption and 5,058 were considered work disability exemption and 5,058 were considered work ready. disability exemption and 5,058 were considered work ready. At disability exemption and 5,058 were considered work ready. At the disability exemption and 5,058 were considered work ready. At the end disability exemption and 5,058 were considered work ready. At the end of considered work ready. At the end of March considered work ready. At the end of March 2022, considered work ready. At the end of March 2022, there considered work ready. At the end of March 2022, there were considered work ready. At the end of March 2022, there were a considered work ready. At the end of March 2022, there were a total considered work ready. At the end of March 2022, there were a total of March 2022, there were a total of 23,001 March 2022, there were a total of 23,001 people March 2022, there were a total of 23,001 people receiving March 2022, there were a total of 23,001 people receiving Jobseeker 23,001 people receiving Jobseeker support 23,001 people receiving Jobseeker support for 23,001 people receiving Jobseeker support for between 23,001 people receiving Jobseeker support for between 3 23,001 people receiving Jobseeker support for between 3 to 23,001 people receiving Jobseeker support for between 3 to 5 23,001 people receiving Jobseeker support for between 3 to 5 years. 23,001 people receiving Jobseeker support for between 3 to 5 years. Of support for between 3 to 5 years. Of those, support for between 3 to 5 years. Of those, 12,948 support for between 3 to 5 years. Of those, 12,948 received support for between 3 to 5 years. Of those, 12,948 received the support for between 3 to 5 years. Of those, 12,948 received the health those, 12,948 received the health and those, 12,948 received the health and disability those, 12,948 received the health and disability exemption those, 12,948 received the health and disability exemption and those, 12,948 received the health and disability exemption and 10,056 and disability exemption and 10,056 were and disability exemption and 10,056 were considered and disability exemption and 10,056 were considered work and disability exemption and 10,056 were considered work ready. and disability exemption and 10,056 were considered work ready. The were considered work ready. The percentage were considered work ready. The percentage difference were considered work ready. The percentage difference is were considered work ready. The percentage difference is around percentage difference is around 92.4% percentage difference is around 92.4% and percentage difference is around 92.4% and represents percentage difference is around 92.4% and represents 11,046 percentage difference is around 92.4% and represents 11,046 people 92.4% and represents 11,046 people of 92.4% and represents 11,046 people of which 92.4% and represents 11,046 people of which 4,998 92.4% and represents 11,046 people of which 4,998 were 92.4% and represents 11,046 people of which 4,998 were work-ready. 92.4% and represents 11,046 people of which 4,998 were work-ready. In of which 4,998 were work-ready. In Budget of which 4,998 were work-ready. In Budget 2020 of which 4,998 were work-ready. In Budget 2020 and of which 4,998 were work-ready. In Budget 2020 and consecutive of which 4,998 were work-ready. In Budget 2020 and consecutive budgets, Budget 2020 and consecutive budgets, we Budget 2020 and consecutive budgets, we have Budget 2020 and consecutive budgets, we have invested Budget 2020 and consecutive budgets, we have invested heavily Budget 2020 and consecutive budgets, we have invested heavily in Budget 2020 and consecutive budgets, we have invested heavily in work we have invested heavily in work focus we have invested heavily in work focus case we have invested heavily in work focus case management we have invested heavily in work focus case management and we have invested heavily in work focus case management and additional focus case management and additional front-line focus case management and additional front-line staff. focus case management and additional front-line staff. We're focus case management and additional front-line staff. We're seeing front-line staff. We're seeing record front-line staff. We're seeing record numbers front-line staff. We're seeing record numbers of front-line staff. We're seeing record numbers of people front-line staff. We're seeing record numbers of people moving front-line staff. We're seeing record numbers of people moving off record numbers of people moving off benefit record numbers of people moving off benefit and record numbers of people moving off benefit and into record numbers of people moving off benefit and into work. record numbers of people moving off benefit and into work. We record numbers of people moving off benefit and into work. We have record numbers of people moving off benefit and into work. We have come benefit and into work. We have come through benefit and into work. We have come through the benefit and into work. We have come through the pandemic benefit and into work. We have come through the pandemic in benefit and into work. We have come through the pandemic in better benefit and into work. We have come through the pandemic in better shape through the pandemic in better shape than through the pandemic in better shape than Treasury through the pandemic in better shape than Treasury predict through the pandemic in better shape than Treasury predict and through the pandemic in better shape than Treasury predict and are than Treasury predict and are working than Treasury predict and are working hard than Treasury predict and are working hard to than Treasury predict and are working hard to ensure than Treasury predict and are working hard to ensure people than Treasury predict and are working hard to ensure people on working hard to ensure people on Jobseeker working hard to ensure people on Jobseeker are working hard to ensure people on Jobseeker are supported working hard to ensure people on Jobseeker are supported into Jobseeker are supported into employment. Jobseeker are supported into employment. Supplementary. Jobseeker are supported into employment. Supplementary. If Jobseeker are supported into employment. Supplementary. If the employment. Supplementary. If the Minister employment. Supplementary. If the Minister still employment. Supplementary. If the Minister still thinks employment. Supplementary. If the Minister still thinks that employment. Supplementary. If the Minister still thinks that COVID-19 Minister still thinks that COVID-19 is Minister still thinks that COVID-19 is to Minister still thinks that COVID-19 is to blame, Minister still thinks that COVID-19 is to blame, why Minister still thinks that COVID-19 is to blame, why has Minister still thinks that COVID-19 is to blame, why has the Minister still thinks that COVID-19 is to blame, why has the number Minister still thinks that COVID-19 is to blame, why has the number of is to blame, why has the number of people is to blame, why has the number of people stuck is to blame, why has the number of people stuck on is to blame, why has the number of people stuck on the is to blame, why has the number of people stuck on the Jobseeker people stuck on the Jobseeker benefit people stuck on the Jobseeker benefit for people stuck on the Jobseeker benefit for 3 people stuck on the Jobseeker benefit for 3 to people stuck on the Jobseeker benefit for 3 to 5 people stuck on the Jobseeker benefit for 3 to 5 years people stuck on the Jobseeker benefit for 3 to 5 years increased benefit for 3 to 5 years increased by benefit for 3 to 5 years increased by 92%, benefit for 3 to 5 years increased by 92%, when benefit for 3 to 5 years increased by 92%, when every benefit for 3 to 5 years increased by 92%, when every one benefit for 3 to 5 years increased by 92%, when every one of benefit for 3 to 5 years increased by 92%, when every one of these by 92%, when every one of these people by 92%, when every one of these people would by 92%, when every one of these people would have by 92%, when every one of these people would have cononto by 92%, when every one of these people would have cononto the people would have cononto the benefit people would have cononto the benefit before people would have cononto the benefit before the people would have cononto the benefit before the pandemic? people would have cononto the benefit before the pandemic? 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If we keep it in context and reflect on keep it in context and reflect on what keep it in context and reflect on what we've keep it in context and reflect on what we've seen keep it in context and reflect on what we've seen over keep it in context and reflect on what we've seen over the keep it in context and reflect on what we've seen over the last keep it in context and reflect on what we've seen over the last couple what we've seen over the last couple of what we've seen over the last couple of years, what we've seen over the last couple of years, currently what we've seen over the last couple of years, currently we what we've seen over the last couple of years, currently we have what we've seen over the last couple of years, currently we have just of years, currently we have just over of years, currently we have just over 100,000 of years, currently we have just over 100,000 people of years, currently we have just over 100,000 people on of years, currently we have just over 100,000 people on Jobseeker over 100,000 people on Jobseeker benefit. over 100,000 people on Jobseeker benefit. That's over 100,000 people on Jobseeker benefit. That's 11,000 over 100,000 people on Jobseeker benefit. That's 11,000 fewer over 100,000 people on Jobseeker benefit. That's 11,000 fewer people benefit. That's 11,000 fewer people than benefit. That's 11,000 fewer people than were benefit. That's 11,000 fewer people than were on benefit. That's 11,000 fewer people than were on this benefit. That's 11,000 fewer people than were on this time benefit. That's 11,000 fewer people than were on this time last benefit. That's 11,000 fewer people than were on this time last year. than were on this time last year. With than were on this time last year. With regards than were on this time last year. With regards to than were on this time last year. With regards to the than were on this time last year. With regards to the increase than were on this time last year. 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It is a reasonable and rational meet New Zealand's needs. It is a reasonable and rational policy meet New Zealand's needs. 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Question Number 10, Erica Stanford. 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