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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. Dr Dr Anae Dr Anae Neru Dr Anae Neru Leavasa. Dr Anae Neru Leavasa. The Dr Anae Neru Leavasa. The Chris Dr Anae Neru Leavasa. The Chris Hipkins. Dr Anae Neru Leavasa. The Chris Hipkins. Today Dr Anae Neru Leavasa. The Chris Hipkins. Today the Dr Anae Neru Leavasa. The Chris Hipkins. Today the House Dr Anae Neru Leavasa. The Chris Hipkins. Today the House will Hipkins. Today the House will adjourn Hipkins. Today the House will adjourn until Hipkins. Today the House will adjourn until Tuesday Hipkins. Today the House will adjourn until Tuesday 2 Hipkins. Today the House will adjourn until Tuesday 2 August. adjourn until Tuesday 2 August. Legislation adjourn until Tuesday 2 August. Legislation considered adjourn until Tuesday 2 August. Legislation considered in adjourn until Tuesday 2 August. Legislation considered in that adjourn until Tuesday 2 August. 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As the year ended June 2022. As measured the year ended June 2022. As measured by the year ended June 2022. As measured by the the year ended June 2022. As measured by the Household the year ended June 2022. 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The number of travellers more than number of travellers more than doubled number of travellers more than doubled to number of travellers more than doubled to 94,600 number of travellers more than doubled to 94,600 in number of travellers more than doubled to 94,600 in the number of travellers more than doubled to 94,600 in the month number of travellers more than doubled to 94,600 in the month in doubled to 94,600 in the month in June doubled to 94,600 in the month in June compared doubled to 94,600 in the month in June compared to doubled to 94,600 in the month in June compared to the doubled to 94,600 in the month in June compared to the same doubled to 94,600 in the month in June compared to the same a doubled to 94,600 in the month in June compared to the same a year June compared to the same a year ago. June compared to the same a year ago. Those June compared to the same a year ago. Those from June compared to the same a year ago. Those from Australia June compared to the same a year ago. Those from Australia led June compared to the same a year ago. Those from Australia led the ago. Those from Australia led the way, ago. Those from Australia led the way, making ago. Those from Australia led the way, making up ago. Those from Australia led the way, making up 7% ago. Those from Australia led the way, making up 7% of ago. Those from Australia led the way, making up 7% of all ago. Those from Australia led the way, making up 7% of all overseas way, making up 7% of all overseas arrivals. way, making up 7% of all overseas arrivals. Those way, making up 7% of all overseas arrivals. Those arriving way, making up 7% of all overseas arrivals. Those arriving to way, making up 7% of all overseas arrivals. Those arriving to visit arrivals. Those arriving to visit friends arrivals. Those arriving to visit friends and arrivals. Those arriving to visit friends and relatives arrivals. Those arriving to visit friends and relatives made arrivals. Those arriving to visit friends and relatives made up arrivals. Those arriving to visit friends and relatives made up 52% friends and relatives made up 52% and friends and relatives made up 52% and holiday-makers friends and relatives made up 52% and holiday-makers 32% friends and relatives made up 52% and holiday-makers 32% and friends and relatives made up 52% and holiday-makers 32% and business and holiday-makers 32% and business trips, and holiday-makers 32% and business trips, 12% and holiday-makers 32% and business trips, 12% on and holiday-makers 32% and business trips, 12% on annual and holiday-makers 32% and business trips, 12% on annual basis and holiday-makers 32% and business trips, 12% on annual basis overseas trips, 12% on annual basis overseas arrivals trips, 12% on annual basis overseas arrivals were trips, 12% on annual basis overseas arrivals were up trips, 12% on annual basis overseas arrivals were up significantly trips, 12% on annual basis overseas arrivals were up significantly on arrivals were up significantly on the arrivals were up significantly on the June arrivals were up significantly on the June 2021 arrivals were up significantly on the June 2021 year. arrivals were up significantly on the June 2021 year. We arrivals were up significantly on the June 2021 year. We know arrivals were up significantly on the June 2021 year. We know sectors the June 2021 year. We know sectors like the June 2021 year. We know sectors like tourism the June 2021 year. We know sectors like tourism and the June 2021 year. We know sectors like tourism and hospitality the June 2021 year. We know sectors like tourism and hospitality have like tourism and hospitality have been like tourism and hospitality have been heavily like tourism and hospitality have been heavily impacted like tourism and hospitality have been heavily impacted by like tourism and hospitality have been heavily impacted by the been heavily impacted by the pandemic been heavily impacted by the pandemic and been heavily impacted by the pandemic and the been heavily impacted by the pandemic and the opening been heavily impacted by the pandemic and the opening of been heavily impacted by the pandemic and the opening of the pandemic and the opening of the border pandemic and the opening of the border and pandemic and the opening of the border and the pandemic and the opening of the border and the prospect pandemic and the opening of the border and the prospect of pandemic and the opening of the border and the prospect of a pandemic and the opening of the border and the prospect of a strong border and the prospect of a strong tourism border and the prospect of a strong tourism system border and the prospect of a strong tourism system this border and the prospect of a strong tourism system this summer border and the prospect of a strong tourism system this summer will tourism system this summer will provide tourism system this summer will provide opportunitys tourism system this summer will provide opportunitys to tourism system this summer will provide opportunitys to rebuild tourism system this summer will provide opportunitys to rebuild and provide opportunitys to rebuild and support provide opportunitys to rebuild and support the provide opportunitys to rebuild and support the recovery of provide opportunitys to rebuild and support the recovery of the provide opportunitys to rebuild and support the recovery of the economy. provide opportunitys to rebuild and provide provide opportunitys to rebuild and Supplementary. What reports has he Supplementary. What reports has he Supplementary. What reports has he Supplementary. What reports has he seen on initiatives Supplementary. What reports has he seen on initiatives to build Supplementary. What reports has he seen on initiatives to build a more Supplementary. What reports has he sustainable, resilient Supplementary. What reports has he sustainable, resilient economy? Mr sustainable, resilient economy? Mr Speaker, sustainable, resilient economy? Mr Speaker, the sustainable, resilient economy? Mr Speaker, the Government sustainable, resilient economy? 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Yesterday the Government emissions economy. Yesterday the Government set emissions economy. Yesterday the Government set out emissions economy. Yesterday the Government set out a emissions economy. Yesterday the Government set out a vision emissions economy. Yesterday the Government set out a vision for emissions economy. Yesterday the Government set out a vision for one Government set out a vision for one of Government set out a vision for one of those Government set out a vision for one of those in Government set out a vision for one of those in tourism, Government set out a vision for one of those in tourism, with Government set out a vision for one of those in tourism, with the of those in tourism, with the Tourism of those in tourism, with the Tourism Industry of those in tourism, with the Tourism Industry Transformation of those in tourism, with the Tourism Industry Transformation Plan Tourism Industry Transformation Plan to Tourism Industry Transformation Plan to support Tourism Industry Transformation Plan to support the Tourism Industry Transformation Plan to support the sector Tourism Industry Transformation Plan to support the sector to Tourism Industry Transformation Plan to support the sector to rebuild to support the sector to rebuild with to support the sector to rebuild with a to support the sector to rebuild with a focus to support the sector to rebuild with a focus on to support the sector to rebuild with a focus on a to support the sector to rebuild with a focus on a more to support the sector to rebuild with a focus on a more regenerative with a focus on a more regenerative future, with a focus on a more regenerative future, developed with a focus on a more regenerative future, developed in with a focus on a more regenerative future, developed in partnership future, developed in partnership with future, developed in partnership with industry, future, developed in partnership with industry, unions, future, developed in partnership with industry, unions, Maori future, developed in partnership with industry, unions, Maori and future, developed in partnership with industry, unions, Maori and is with industry, unions, Maori and is open with industry, unions, Maori and is open for with industry, unions, Maori and is open for public with industry, unions, Maori and is open for public consultation, open for public consultation, identifying open for public consultation, identifying challenges open for public consultation, identifying challenges but open for public consultation, identifying challenges but setting identifying challenges but setting out identifying challenges but setting out actions identifying challenges but setting out actions to identifying challenges but setting out actions to overcompere identifying challenges but setting out actions to overcompere crepions out actions to overcompere crepions of out actions to overcompere crepions of the out actions to overcompere crepions of the industry, out actions to overcompere crepions of the industry, as out actions to overcompere crepions of the industry, as being out actions to overcompere crepions of the industry, as being one out actions to overcompere crepions of the industry, as being one with of the industry, as being one with low of the industry, as being one with low wages, of the industry, as being one with low wages, long of the industry, as being one with low wages, long hours of the industry, as being one with low wages, long hours and low wages, long hours and uncertainty. low wages, long hours and uncertainty. Our low wages, long hours and uncertainty. Our response low wages, long hours and uncertainty. Our response includes uncertainty. Our response includes improving uncertainty. Our response includes improving education uncertainty. Our response includes improving education and uncertainty. Our response includes improving education and training improving education and training providing improving education and training providing more improving education and training providing more resources improving education and training providing more resources for providing more resources for operators providing more resources for operators and providing more resources for operators and allowing providing more resources for operators and allowing better providing more resources for operators and allowing better work operators and allowing better work through operators and allowing better work through innovation operators and allowing better work through innovation and operators and allowing better work through innovation and technology. through innovation and technology. We through innovation and technology. We have through innovation and technology. We have supported through innovation and technology. We have supported the through innovation and technology. We have supported the tourism through innovation and technology. We have supported the tourism sector We have supported the tourism sector throughout We have supported the tourism sector throughout the We have supported the tourism sector throughout the pandemic We have supported the tourism sector throughout the pandemic including throughout the pandemic including the throughout the pandemic including the $49 throughout the pandemic including the $49 million throughout the pandemic including the $49 million Tourism throughout the pandemic including the $49 million Tourism Kiss throughout the pandemic including the $49 million Tourism Kiss Det the $49 million Tourism Kiss Det start the $49 million Tourism Kiss Det start Fund the $49 million Tourism Kiss Det start Fund to the $49 million Tourism Kiss Det start Fund to help the $49 million Tourism Kiss Det start Fund to help operators the $49 million Tourism Kiss Det start Fund to help operators gear the $49 million Tourism Kiss Det start Fund to help operators gear up start Fund to help operators gear up for start Fund to help operators gear up for the start Fund to help operators gear up for the return start Fund to help operators gear up for the return of start Fund to help operators gear up for the return of international for the return of international visitors. for the return of international visitors. We for the return of international visitors. We will for the return of international visitors. We will continue for the return of international visitors. We will continue to for the return of international visitors. We will continue to work visitors. We will continue to work closely visitors. We will continue to work closely with visitors. We will continue to work closely with the visitors. We will continue to work closely with the industry visitors. We will continue to work closely with the industry to visitors. We will continue to work closely with the industry to ensure closely with the industry to ensure its closely with the industry to ensure its long-term closely with the industry to ensure its long-term sustainability. its long-term sustainability. Question its long-term sustainability. Question No. its long-term sustainability. Question No. 2, its long-term sustainability. Question No. 2, in its long-term sustainability. Question No. 2, in the its long-term sustainability. 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I'm pleased to inform the House as of December 2021, women now House as of December 2021, women now hold House as of December 2021, women now hold 52.5% House as of December 2021, women now hold 52.5% of House as of December 2021, women now hold 52.5% of positions House as of December 2021, women now hold 52.5% of positions on House as of December 2021, women now hold 52.5% of positions on Cabinet hold 52.5% of positions on Cabinet appointed hold 52.5% of positions on Cabinet appointed public hold 52.5% of positions on Cabinet appointed public sector hold 52.5% of positions on Cabinet appointed public sector boards hold 52.5% of positions on Cabinet appointed public sector boards and appointed public sector boards and committees. appointed public sector boards and committees. This appointed public sector boards and committees. This is appointed public sector boards and committees. This is the appointed public sector boards and committees. This is the greatest committees. This is the greatest ever committees. This is the greatest ever percentage. committees. This is the greatest ever percentage. Over committees. This is the greatest ever percentage. Over 2021, committees. This is the greatest ever percentage. Over 2021, 54.6% committees. This is the greatest ever percentage. Over 2021, 54.6% of ever percentage. Over 2021, 54.6% of new ever percentage. Over 2021, 54.6% of new appointments ever percentage. Over 2021, 54.6% of new appointments were ever percentage. Over 2021, 54.6% of new appointments were women, ever percentage. Over 2021, 54.6% of new appointments were women, and new appointments were women, and this new appointments were women, and this is new appointments were women, and this is the new appointments were women, and this is the second new appointments were women, and this is the second consecutive new appointments were women, and this is the second consecutive year this is the second consecutive year we this is the second consecutive year we have this is the second consecutive year we have met this is the second consecutive year we have met Cabinet's this is the second consecutive year we have met Cabinet's 2018 this is the second consecutive year we have met Cabinet's 2018 target this is the second consecutive year we have met Cabinet's 2018 target of we have met Cabinet's 2018 target of 50% we have met Cabinet's 2018 target of 50% for we have met Cabinet's 2018 target of 50% for women's we have met Cabinet's 2018 target of 50% for women's representation. we have met Cabinet's 2018 target of 50% for women's representation. Mr 50% for women's representation. Mr Speaker, 50% for women's representation. Mr Speaker, there 50% for women's representation. Mr Speaker, there is 50% for women's representation. Mr Speaker, there is no 50% for women's representation. Mr Speaker, there is no shortage 50% for women's representation. Mr Speaker, there is no shortage of Speaker, there is no shortage of skilled Speaker, there is no shortage of skilled women Speaker, there is no shortage of skilled women for Speaker, there is no shortage of skilled women for governance Speaker, there is no shortage of skilled women for governance roles. skilled women for governance roles. I'm skilled women for governance roles. I'm glad skilled women for governance roles. I'm glad many skilled women for governance roles. I'm glad many can skilled women for governance roles. I'm glad many can strengthen skilled women for governance roles. I'm glad many can strengthen the I'm glad many can strengthen the governance I'm glad many can strengthen the governance on I'm glad many can strengthen the governance on public I'm glad many can strengthen the governance on public sector I'm glad many can strengthen the governance on public sector boards. governance on public sector boards. Supplementary. governance on public sector boards. Supplementary. What governance on public sector boards. Supplementary. What improvements Supplementary. What improvements have Supplementary. What improvements have been Supplementary. What improvements have been made Supplementary. What improvements have been made to Supplementary. What improvements have been made to the Supplementary. What improvements have been made to the collection Supplementary. What improvements have been made to the collection of have been made to the collection of ethnicity have been made to the collection of ethnicity data have been made to the collection of ethnicity data on have been made to the collection of ethnicity data on public have been made to the collection of ethnicity data on public boards? ethnicity data on public boards? We ethnicity data on public boards? We have ethnicity data on public boards? We have received ethnicity data on public boards? We have received ethnicity ethnicity data on public boards? We have received ethnicity data ethnicity data on public boards? We have received ethnicity data for We have received ethnicity data for 98.9% We have received ethnicity data for 98.9% of We have received ethnicity data for 98.9% of members We have received ethnicity data for 98.9% of members and We have received ethnicity data for 98.9% of members and the We have received ethnicity data for 98.9% of members and the results 98.9% of members and the results show 98.9% of members and the results show gradual 98.9% of members and the results show gradual improvement 98.9% of members and the results show gradual improvement in 98.9% of members and the results show gradual improvement in the show gradual improvement in the ethnic show gradual improvement in the ethnic diversity show gradual improvement in the ethnic diversity of show gradual improvement in the ethnic diversity of board show gradual improvement in the ethnic diversity of board members. ethnic diversity of board members. Compared ethnic diversity of board members. Compared with ethnic diversity of board members. Compared with 2020, ethnic diversity of board members. Compared with 2020, we ethnic diversity of board members. Compared with 2020, we saw ethnic diversity of board members. Compared with 2020, we saw increases Compared with 2020, we saw increases in Compared with 2020, we saw increases in representation Compared with 2020, we saw increases in representation of Compared with 2020, we saw increases in representation of Maori, Compared with 2020, we saw increases in representation of Maori, Pacific, in representation of Maori, Pacific, Asian in representation of Maori, Pacific, Asian and in representation of Maori, Pacific, Asian and Middle in representation of Maori, Pacific, Asian and Middle Eastern, in representation of Maori, Pacific, Asian and Middle Eastern, Latin Asian and Middle Eastern, Latin American, Asian and Middle Eastern, Latin American, African Asian and Middle Eastern, Latin American, African board Asian and Middle Eastern, Latin American, African board members. Asian and Middle Eastern, Latin American, African board members. We American, African board members. We are American, African board members. We are committed American, African board members. We are committed to American, African board members. We are committed to increasing American, African board members. We are committed to increasing ethnic are committed to increasing ethnic diversity are committed to increasing ethnic diversity across are committed to increasing ethnic diversity across all are committed to increasing ethnic diversity across all boards are committed to increasing ethnic diversity across all boards and diversity across all boards and we've diversity across all boards and we've been diversity across all boards and we've been working diversity across all boards and we've been working tively diversity across all boards and we've been working tively with diversity across all boards and we've been working tively with the we've been working tively with the Ministry we've been working tively with the Ministry of we've been working tively with the Ministry of Ethnic we've been working tively with the Ministry of Ethnic communities we've been working tively with the Ministry of Ethnic communities and Ministry of Ethnic communities and the Ministry of Ethnic communities and the new Ministry of Ethnic communities and the new Ministry Ministry of Ethnic communities and the new Ministry of Ministry of Ethnic communities and the new Ministry of Disabled Ministry of Ethnic communities and the new Ministry of Disabled people the new Ministry of Disabled people and the new Ministry of Disabled people and others the new Ministry of Disabled people and others to the new Ministry of Disabled people and others to support the new Ministry of Disabled people and others to support the and others to support the development and others to support the development of and others to support the development of a and others to support the development of a pipeline and others to support the development of a pipeline of and others to support the development of a pipeline of diverse development of a pipeline of diverse board development of a pipeline of diverse board ready development of a pipeline of diverse board ready candidates. development of a pipeline of diverse board ready candidates. The development of a pipeline of diverse board ready candidates. The cross board ready candidates. The cross agency board ready candidates. The cross agency group board ready candidates. The cross agency group hosted board ready candidates. The cross agency group hosted an board ready candidates. The cross agency group hosted an online agency group hosted an online remember agency group hosted an online remember far agency group hosted an online remember far focused agency group hosted an online remember far focused on agency group hosted an online remember far focused on preparing agency group hosted an online remember far focused on preparing a remember far focused on preparing a good remember far focused on preparing a good CV remember far focused on preparing a good CV which remember far focused on preparing a good CV which was remember far focused on preparing a good CV which was well remember far focused on preparing a good CV which was well attended. good CV which was well attended. More good CV which was well attended. More sessions good CV which was well attended. More sessions are good CV which was well attended. More sessions are planned. More sessions are planned. Supplementary. More sessions are planned. Supplementary. Why More sessions are planned. Supplementary. Why is More sessions are planned. Supplementary. Why is having More sessions are planned. Supplementary. Why is having diverse Supplementary. Why is having diverse representation Supplementary. Why is having diverse representation on Supplementary. Why is having diverse representation on boards Supplementary. Why is having diverse representation on boards important? representation on boards important? Mr representation on boards important? Mr Speaker, representation on boards important? Mr Speaker, it representation on boards important? Mr Speaker, it is representation on boards important? Mr Speaker, it is important representation on boards important? Mr Speaker, it is important public Mr Speaker, it is important public boards Mr Speaker, it is important public boards have Mr Speaker, it is important public boards have the Mr Speaker, it is important public boards have the relevant Mr Speaker, it is important public boards have the relevant skills Mr Speaker, it is important public boards have the relevant skills and boards have the relevant skills and expertise boards have the relevant skills and expertise and boards have the relevant skills and expertise and reflect boards have the relevant skills and expertise and reflect the boards have the relevant skills and expertise and reflect the vibrant expertise and reflect the vibrant diversity expertise and reflect the vibrant diversity of expertise and reflect the vibrant diversity of our expertise and reflect the vibrant diversity of our country. expertise and reflect the vibrant diversity of our country. The expertise and reflect the vibrant diversity of our country. The facts diversity of our country. The facts prove diversity of our country. The facts prove that diversity of our country. The facts prove that diverse diversity of our country. The facts prove that diverse boards diversity of our country. The facts prove that diverse boards bring diversity of our country. The facts prove that diverse boards bring a prove that diverse boards bring a wider prove that diverse boards bring a wider range prove that diverse boards bring a wider range of prove that diverse boards bring a wider range of knowledge, prove that diverse boards bring a wider range of knowledge, expertise wider range of knowledge, expertise and wider range of knowledge, expertise and skill, wider range of knowledge, expertise and skill, which wider range of knowledge, expertise and skill, which of wider range of knowledge, expertise and skill, which of course wider range of knowledge, expertise and skill, which of course can wider range of knowledge, expertise and skill, which of course can only and skill, which of course can only be and skill, which of course can only be of and skill, which of course can only be of benefit and skill, which of course can only be of benefit to and skill, which of course can only be of benefit to the and skill, which of course can only be of benefit to the organisation be of benefit to the organisation the be of benefit to the organisation the board be of benefit to the organisation the board is be of benefit to the organisation the board is governing. be of benefit to the organisation the board is governing. By be of benefit to the organisation the board is governing. By making the board is governing. By making our the board is governing. By making our organisations the board is governing. By making our organisations and the board is governing. By making our organisations and boards the board is governing. By making our organisations and boards that our organisations and boards that govern our organisations and boards that govern them our organisations and boards that govern them more our organisations and boards that govern them more inviting govern them more inviting environments govern them more inviting environments for govern them more inviting environments for underrepresented environments for underrepresented groups, environments for underrepresented groups, we environments for underrepresented groups, we will environments for underrepresented groups, we will attract environments for underrepresented groups, we will attract and environments for underrepresented groups, we will attract and retain groups, we will attract and retain the groups, we will attract and retain the best groups, we will attract and retain the best talent groups, we will attract and retain the best talent and groups, we will attract and retain the best talent and will groups, we will attract and retain the best talent and will better the best talent and will better understand the best talent and will better understand the the best talent and will better understand the needs the best talent and will better understand the needs of the best talent and will better understand the needs of our the best talent and will better understand the needs of our clients understand the needs of our clients and understand the needs of our clients and the understand the needs of our clients and the wider understand the needs of our clients and the wider public. understand the needs of our clients and the wider public. I understand the needs of our clients and the wider public. I would understand the needs of our clients and the wider public. I would like and the wider public. I would like to and the wider public. I would like to thank and the wider public. I would like to thank my and the wider public. I would like to thank my Cabinet and the wider public. I would like to thank my Cabinet colleagues and the wider public. I would like to thank my Cabinet colleagues for to thank my Cabinet colleagues for nominating to thank my Cabinet colleagues for nominating and to thank my Cabinet colleagues for nominating and appointing to thank my Cabinet colleagues for nominating and appointing such to thank my Cabinet colleagues for nominating and appointing such a nominating and appointing such a talented, nominating and appointing such a talented, diverse nominating and appointing such a talented, diverse group nominating and appointing such a talented, diverse group of talented, diverse group of candidates talented, diverse group of candidates and talented, diverse group of candidates and I talented, diverse group of candidates and I look talented, diverse group of candidates and I look forward talented, diverse group of candidates and I look forward to candidates and I look forward to further candidates and I look forward to further diversity candidates and I look forward to further diversity across candidates and I look forward to further diversity across all further diversity across all governance further diversity across all governance boards further diversity across all governance boards in further diversity across all governance boards in the further diversity across all governance boards in the future. governance boards in the future. Question governance boards in the future. Question No. governance boards in the future. Question No. 6, governance boards in the future. Question No. 6, in governance boards in the future. Question No. 6, in the governance boards in the future. Question No. 6, in the name governance boards in the future. Question No. 6, in the name of governance boards in the future. Question No. 6, in the name of Shane Question No. 6, in the name of Shane Reti. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Health: Health: Does Health: Does he Health: Does he consider Health: Does he consider recent Health: Does he consider recent health Does he consider recent health campaigns Does he consider recent health campaigns have Does he consider recent health campaigns have been Does he consider recent health campaigns have been successful; campaigns have been successful; if campaigns have been successful; if so, campaigns have been successful; if so, how campaigns have been successful; if so, how many campaigns have been successful; if so, how many people campaigns have been successful; if so, how many people were campaigns have been successful; if so, how many people were employed if so, how many people were employed under if so, how many people were employed under the if so, how many people were employed under the Kiwi if so, how many people were employed under the Kiwi Health if so, how many people were employed under the Kiwi Health Jobs under the Kiwi Health Jobs critical under the Kiwi Health Jobs critical care under the Kiwi Health Jobs critical care nursing under the Kiwi Health Jobs critical care nursing campaign critical care nursing campaign to critical care nursing campaign to 30 critical care nursing campaign to 30 June critical care nursing campaign to 30 June 2022? The The Hon The Hon Andrew The Hon Andrew Little. The Hon Andrew Little. Mr The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, in The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, in response The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, in response to The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, in response to the The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, in response to the first The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, in response to the first part, The Hon Andrew Little. Mr Speaker, in response to the first part, yes. in response to the first part, yes. Recent in response to the first part, yes. Recent health in response to the first part, yes. Recent health campaigns in response to the first part, yes. Recent health campaigns include in response to the first part, yes. Recent health campaigns include the Recent health campaigns include the 2021 Recent health campaigns include the 2021 COVID Recent health campaigns include the 2021 COVID vaccination Recent health campaigns include the 2021 COVID vaccination campaign, Recent health campaigns include the 2021 COVID vaccination campaign, the 2021 COVID vaccination campaign, the single 2021 COVID vaccination campaign, the single biggest 2021 COVID vaccination campaign, the single biggest health 2021 COVID vaccination campaign, the single biggest health campaign 2021 COVID vaccination campaign, the single biggest health campaign in single biggest health campaign in the single biggest health campaign in the country's single biggest health campaign in the country's history. single biggest health campaign in the country's history. That single biggest health campaign in the country's history. That campaign the country's history. That campaign saw the country's history. That campaign saw more the country's history. That campaign saw more than the country's history. That campaign saw more than 11 the country's history. That campaign saw more than 11 million the country's history. That campaign saw more than 11 million doses saw more than 11 million doses administered saw more than 11 million doses administered by saw more than 11 million doses administered by a saw more than 11 million doses administered by a workforce saw more than 11 million doses administered by a workforce on administered by a workforce on literally administered by a workforce on literally thousands administered by a workforce on literally thousands of administered by a workforce on literally thousands of people, administered by a workforce on literally thousands of people, many literally thousands of people, many of literally thousands of people, many of whom literally thousands of people, many of whom assembled literally thousands of people, many of whom assembled especially literally thousands of people, many of whom assembled especially for literally thousands of people, many of whom assembled especially for the of whom assembled especially for the campaign. of whom assembled especially for the campaign. To of whom assembled especially for the campaign. To the of whom assembled especially for the campaign. To the second of whom assembled especially for the campaign. To the second part of whom assembled especially for the campaign. To the second part of of whom assembled especially for the campaign. To the second part of the campaign. To the second part of the question, campaign. To the second part of the question, the campaign. To the second part of the question, the Kiwi campaign. To the second part of the question, the Kiwi Health campaign. To the second part of the question, the Kiwi Health Jobs question, the Kiwi Health Jobs Critical question, the Kiwi Health Jobs Critical Care question, the Kiwi Health Jobs Critical Care Nursing question, the Kiwi Health Jobs Critical Care Nursing Campaign question, the Kiwi Health Jobs Critical Care Nursing Campaign was Critical Care Nursing Campaign was one Critical Care Nursing Campaign was one of Critical Care Nursing Campaign was one of several Critical Care Nursing Campaign was one of several recruitments Critical Care Nursing Campaign was one of several recruitments to one of several recruitments to recruit one of several recruitments to recruit from one of several recruitments to recruit from within one of several recruitments to recruit from within and one of several recruitments to recruit from within and outside one of several recruitments to recruit from within and outside New recruit from within and outside New Zealand. recruit from within and outside New Zealand. 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Between February and the end of June this year, the campaign end of June this year, the campaign resulted end of June this year, the campaign resulted in end of June this year, the campaign resulted in 175 end of June this year, the campaign resulted in 175 applications end of June this year, the campaign resulted in 175 applications for resulted in 175 applications for critical resulted in 175 applications for critical nurse resulted in 175 applications for critical nurse positions resulted in 175 applications for critical nurse positions 80 resulted in 175 applications for critical nurse positions 80 were critical nurse positions 80 were withdrawn critical nurse positions 80 were withdrawn or critical nurse positions 80 were withdrawn or declined, critical nurse positions 80 were withdrawn or declined, 46 critical nurse positions 80 were withdrawn or declined, 46 candidates withdrawn or declined, 46 candidates were withdrawn or declined, 46 candidates were referred withdrawn or declined, 46 candidates were referred to withdrawn or declined, 46 candidates were referred to Health withdrawn or declined, 46 candidates were referred to Health New withdrawn or declined, 46 candidates were referred to Health New Zealand were referred to Health New Zealand and were referred to Health New Zealand and 25 were referred to Health New Zealand and 25 indicateed were referred to Health New Zealand and 25 indicateed they were referred to Health New Zealand and 25 indicateed they will were referred to Health New Zealand and 25 indicateed they will be and 25 indicateed they will be available and 25 indicateed they will be available more and 25 indicateed they will be available more than and 25 indicateed they will be available more than 12 and 25 indicateed they will be available more than 12 months and 25 indicateed they will be available more than 12 months from available more than 12 months from now, available more than 12 months from now, and available more than 12 months from now, and another available more than 12 months from now, and another 13 available more than 12 months from now, and another 13 are available more than 12 months from now, and another 13 are at available more than 12 months from now, and another 13 are at the available more than 12 months from now, and another 13 are at the end now, and another 13 are at the end of now, and another 13 are at the end of year now, and another 13 are at the end of year stage now, and another 13 are at the end of year stage and now, and another 13 are at the end of year stage and yet now, and another 13 are at the end of year stage and yet another now, and another 13 are at the end of year stage and yet another 14 now, and another 13 are at the end of year stage and yet another 14 are of year stage and yet another 14 are still of year stage and yet another 14 are still processed of year stage and yet another 14 are still processed by of year stage and yet another 14 are still processed by Kiwi of year stage and yet another 14 are still processed by Kiwi Health of year stage and yet another 14 are still processed by Kiwi Health jobs. still processed by Kiwi Health jobs. Ten still processed by Kiwi Health jobs. Ten are still processed by Kiwi Health jobs. Ten are not still processed by Kiwi Health jobs. Ten are not critical still processed by Kiwi Health jobs. Ten are not critical care still processed by Kiwi Health jobs. Ten are not critical care nurses still processed by Kiwi Health jobs. Ten are not critical care nurses but Ten are not critical care nurses but are Ten are not critical care nurses but are considered Ten are not critical care nurses but are considered for Ten are not critical care nurses but are considered for other Ten are not critical care nurses but are considered for other roles. Ten are not critical care nurses but are considered for other roles. It are considered for other roles. It is are considered for other roles. It is not are considered for other roles. It is not possible are considered for other roles. It is not possible to are considered for other roles. It is not possible to say are considered for other roles. It is not possible to say how are considered for other roles. It is not possible to say how many are considered for other roles. It is not possible to say how many were is not possible to say how many were employed is not possible to say how many were employed as is not possible to say how many were employed as a is not possible to say how many were employed as a result is not possible to say how many were employed as a result of is not possible to say how many were employed as a result of the employed as a result of the campaign, employed as a result of the campaign, because employed as a result of the campaign, because the employed as a result of the campaign, because the employment campaign, because the employment process campaign, because the employment process for campaign, because the employment process for 62 campaign, because the employment process for 62 applicants campaign, because the employment process for 62 applicants hasn't process for 62 applicants hasn't concluded. process for 62 applicants hasn't concluded. Ultimately process for 62 applicants hasn't concluded. Ultimately New process for 62 applicants hasn't concluded. Ultimately New Zealand concluded. Ultimately New Zealand needs concluded. Ultimately New Zealand needs more concluded. Ultimately New Zealand needs more nurses concluded. Ultimately New Zealand needs more nurses and concluded. Ultimately New Zealand needs more nurses and this concluded. Ultimately New Zealand needs more nurses and this campaign needs more nurses and this campaign is needs more nurses and this campaign is only needs more nurses and this campaign is only one needs more nurses and this campaign is only one of needs more nurses and this campaign is only one of a needs more nurses and this campaign is only one of a wider needs more nurses and this campaign is only one of a wider campaign, needs more nurses and this campaign is only one of a wider campaign, and is only one of a wider campaign, and ongoing is only one of a wider campaign, and ongoing workforce is only one of a wider campaign, and ongoing workforce plan, is only one of a wider campaign, and ongoing workforce plan, to is only one of a wider campaign, and ongoing workforce plan, to train ongoing workforce plan, to train more ongoing workforce plan, to train more nurses ongoing workforce plan, to train more nurses in ongoing workforce plan, to train more nurses in New ongoing workforce plan, to train more nurses in New Zealand ongoing workforce plan, to train more nurses in New Zealand to ongoing workforce plan, to train more nurses in New Zealand to get more nurses in New Zealand to get nurses more nurses in New Zealand to get nurses currently more nurses in New Zealand to get nurses currently not more nurses in New Zealand to get nurses currently not practising more nurses in New Zealand to get nurses currently not practising into nurses currently not practising into the nurses currently not practising into the workforce nurses currently not practising into the workforce and nurses currently not practising into the workforce and attract nurses currently not practising into the workforce and attract them nurses currently not practising into the workforce and attract them from the workforce and attract them from overseas. the workforce and attract them from overseas. Supplementary. the workforce and attract them from overseas. Supplementary. Does the workforce and attract them from overseas. Supplementary. Does he overseas. Supplementary. Does he stand overseas. Supplementary. Does he stand by overseas. Supplementary. Does he stand by his overseas. Supplementary. Does he stand by his reply overseas. Supplementary. Does he stand by his reply to overseas. Supplementary. Does he stand by his reply to written stand by his reply to written questions stand by his reply to written questions in stand by his reply to written questions in April stand by his reply to written questions in April that stand by his reply to written questions in April that a stand by his reply to written questions in April that a total stand by his reply to written questions in April that a total of questions in April that a total of three questions in April that a total of three people questions in April that a total of three people were questions in April that a total of three people were employed questions in April that a total of three people were employed under questions in April that a total of three people were employed under his three people were employed under his Critical three people were employed under his Critical Care three people were employed under his Critical Care Kiwi three people were employed under his Critical Care Kiwi Health three people were employed under his Critical Care Kiwi Health Jobs Critical Care Kiwi Health Jobs campaign? Critical Care Kiwi Health Jobs campaign? Mr Critical Care Kiwi Health Jobs campaign? Mr Speaker, Critical Care Kiwi Health Jobs campaign? Mr Speaker, the Critical Care Kiwi Health Jobs campaign? Mr Speaker, the member Critical Care Kiwi Health Jobs campaign? Mr Speaker, the member may campaign? Mr Speaker, the member may not campaign? Mr Speaker, the member may not have campaign? Mr Speaker, the member may not have observed campaign? Mr Speaker, the member may not have observed but campaign? Mr Speaker, the member may not have observed but it campaign? Mr Speaker, the member may not have observed but it is not have observed but it is currently not have observed but it is currently August not have observed but it is currently August and not have observed but it is currently August and in not have observed but it is currently August and in the not have observed but it is currently August and in the months currently August and in the months and currently August and in the months and weeks currently August and in the months and weeks since currently August and in the months and weeks since April, currently August and in the months and weeks since April, work and weeks since April, work continues, and weeks since April, work continues, including and weeks since April, work continues, including on and weeks since April, work continues, including on nurse continues, including on nurse recruitment continues, including on nurse recruitment campaigns, continues, including on nurse recruitment campaigns, which continues, including on nurse recruitment campaigns, which is continues, including on nurse recruitment campaigns, which is why recruitment campaigns, which is why we recruitment campaigns, which is why we have recruitment campaigns, which is why we have many recruitment campaigns, which is why we have many more recruitment campaigns, which is why we have many more people recruitment campaigns, which is why we have many more people who recruitment campaigns, which is why we have many more people who have we have many more people who have been we have many more people who have been processed we have many more people who have been processed as we have many more people who have been processed as a we have many more people who have been processed as a result we have many more people who have been processed as a result of we have many more people who have been processed as a result of that been processed as a result of that campaign been processed as a result of that campaign than been processed as a result of that campaign than the been processed as a result of that campaign than the case been processed as a result of that campaign than the case in been processed as a result of that campaign than the case in April. campaign than the case in April. Supplementary. campaign than the case in April. Supplementary. How campaign than the case in April. Supplementary. How can campaign than the case in April. Supplementary. How can he campaign than the case in April. Supplementary. How can he consider Supplementary. How can he consider the Supplementary. How can he consider the measles Supplementary. How can he consider the measles Catch-up Supplementary. How can he consider the measles Catch-up Campaign Supplementary. How can he consider the measles Catch-up Campaign a the measles Catch-up Campaign a success the measles Catch-up Campaign a success when the measles Catch-up Campaign a success when he the measles Catch-up Campaign a success when he said the measles Catch-up Campaign a success when he said to the measles Catch-up Campaign a success when he said to me the measles Catch-up Campaign a success when he said to me in the measles Catch-up Campaign a success when he said to me in the success when he said to me in the high success when he said to me in the high measles success when he said to me in the high measles risk success when he said to me in the high measles risk area success when he said to me in the high measles risk area in success when he said to me in the high measles risk area in one success when he said to me in the high measles risk area in one area, high measles risk area in one area, only high measles risk area in one area, only 28 high measles risk area in one area, only 28 target high measles risk area in one area, only 28 target group high measles risk area in one area, only 28 target group people high measles risk area in one area, only 28 target group people were only 28 target group people were vaccinated only 28 target group people were vaccinated over only 28 target group people were vaccinated over two only 28 target group people were vaccinated over two years only 28 target group people were vaccinated over two years of only 28 target group people were vaccinated over two years of the vaccinated over two years of the campaign? vaccinated over two years of the campaign? Mr vaccinated over two years of the campaign? Mr Speaker, vaccinated over two years of the campaign? Mr Speaker, the vaccinated over two years of the campaign? Mr Speaker, the member campaign? Mr Speaker, the member highlights campaign? Mr Speaker, the member highlights the campaign? Mr Speaker, the member highlights the very campaign? Mr Speaker, the member highlights the very need campaign? Mr Speaker, the member highlights the very need for campaign? Mr Speaker, the member highlights the very need for the highlights the very need for the Maori highlights the very need for the Maori Health highlights the very need for the Maori Health Authority highlights the very need for the Maori Health Authority which highlights the very need for the Maori Health Authority which that Maori Health Authority which that member Maori Health Authority which that member and Maori Health Authority which that member and his Maori Health Authority which that member and his party Maori Health Authority which that member and his party opposed member and his party opposed throughout. member and his party opposed throughout. The member and his party opposed throughout. The reality member and his party opposed throughout. The reality is, member and his party opposed throughout. The reality is, the throughout. The reality is, the equity throughout. The reality is, the equity performance throughout. The reality is, the equity performance of throughout. The reality is, the equity performance of our throughout. 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Supplementary: now we will have it with the Maori Health Authority. Supplementary: Is Health Authority. Supplementary: Is it Health Authority. Supplementary: Is it correct Health Authority. Supplementary: Is it correct that Health Authority. Supplementary: Is it correct that despite Health Authority. Supplementary: Is it correct that despite all Health Authority. 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That's for Maori and Pacific children. That's why for Maori and Pacific children. That's why this for Maori and Pacific children. That's why this Government for Maori and Pacific children. That's why this Government has for Maori and Pacific children. 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Zealand Nurses' Organisation. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Mr <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker. <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker. Question <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker. Question No. <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker. Question No. 7 <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker. Question No. 7 in <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker. Question No. 7 in the Mr Speaker. Question No. 7 in the name Mr Speaker. Question No. 7 in the name of Mr Speaker. Question No. 7 in the name of Chloe Mr Speaker. Question No. 7 in the name of Chloe Swarbrick. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: Finance: What Finance: What reports, Finance: What reports, if Finance: What reports, if any, Finance: What reports, if any, has What reports, if any, has he What reports, if any, has he seen What reports, if any, has he seen on What reports, if any, has he seen on the What reports, if any, has he seen on the impacts What reports, if any, has he seen on the impacts of What reports, if any, has he seen on the impacts of monetary he seen on the impacts of monetary and he seen on the impacts of monetary and fiscal he seen on the impacts of monetary and fiscal policy and fiscal policy throughout and fiscal policy throughout the and fiscal policy throughout the COVID-19 and fiscal policy throughout the COVID-19 pandemic throughout the COVID-19 pandemic on throughout the COVID-19 pandemic on the throughout the COVID-19 pandemic on the distribution throughout the COVID-19 pandemic on the distribution of throughout the COVID-19 pandemic on the distribution of wealth throughout the COVID-19 pandemic on the distribution of wealth in on the distribution of wealth in this on the distribution of wealth in this country? The The Hon The Hon Grant The Hon Grant Robertson. The Hon Grant Robertson. I've The Hon Grant Robertson. I've seen The Hon Grant Robertson. I've seen a The Hon Grant Robertson. I've seen a range The Hon Grant Robertson. I've seen a range of The Hon Grant Robertson. I've seen a range of reports The Hon Grant Robertson. I've seen a range of reports on The Hon Grant Robertson. I've seen a range of reports on the The Hon Grant Robertson. I've seen a range of reports on the impact The Hon Grant Robertson. 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I appreciate the member may disagree appreciate the member may disagree with appreciate the member may disagree with some appreciate the member may disagree with some of appreciate the member may disagree with some of the appreciate the member may disagree with some of the decisions appreciate the member may disagree with some of the decisions that appreciate the member may disagree with some of the decisions that were with some of the decisions that were taken with some of the decisions that were taken and with some of the decisions that were taken and some with some of the decisions that were taken and some of with some of the decisions that were taken and some of the with some of the decisions that were taken and some of the outcomes with some of the decisions that were taken and some of the outcomes that taken and some of the outcomes that have taken and some of the outcomes that have occurred taken and some of the outcomes that have occurred since taken and some of the outcomes that have occurred since then. taken and some of the outcomes that have occurred since then. 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We know the world's dirtiest vehicles. We know that the world's dirtiest vehicles. We know that transport the world's dirtiest vehicles. We know that transport emissions the world's dirtiest vehicles. We know that transport emissions make know that transport emissions make up know that transport emissions make up 43% know that transport emissions make up 43% of know that transport emissions make up 43% of New know that transport emissions make up 43% of New Zealand's know that transport emissions make up 43% of New Zealand's total know that transport emissions make up 43% of New Zealand's total carbon up 43% of New Zealand's total carbon dioxide up 43% of New Zealand's total carbon dioxide emissions up 43% of New Zealand's total carbon dioxide emissions and up 43% of New Zealand's total carbon dioxide emissions and the up 43% of New Zealand's total carbon dioxide emissions and the Clean up 43% of New Zealand's total carbon dioxide emissions and the Clean Car dioxide emissions and the Clean Car Discount dioxide emissions and the Clean Car Discount Scheme dioxide emissions and the Clean Car Discount Scheme is dioxide emissions and the Clean Car Discount Scheme is helping dioxide emissions and the Clean Car Discount Scheme is helping to dioxide emissions and the Clean Car Discount Scheme is helping to power Discount Scheme is helping to power the Discount Scheme is helping to power the transition Discount Scheme is helping to power the transition of Discount Scheme is helping to power the transition of our Discount Scheme is helping to power the transition of our vehicle Discount Scheme is helping to power the transition of our vehicle fleet the transition of our vehicle fleet along. the transition of our vehicle fleet along. 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By reducing the up-front costs into account. By reducing the up-front costs through into account. By reducing the up-front costs through rebates into account. By reducing the up-front costs through rebates to up-front costs through rebates to New up-front costs through rebates to New Zealanders, up-front costs through rebates to New Zealanders, we're up-front costs through rebates to New Zealanders, we're making up-front costs through rebates to New Zealanders, we're making clean New Zealanders, we're making clean vehicles New Zealanders, we're making clean vehicles a New Zealanders, we're making clean vehicles a more New Zealanders, we're making clean vehicles a more viable New Zealanders, we're making clean vehicles a more viable option New Zealanders, we're making clean vehicles a more viable option and vehicles a more viable option and enabling vehicles a more viable option and enabling a vehicles a more viable option and enabling a domestic vehicles a more viable option and enabling a domestic second-hand enabling a domestic second-hand market enabling a domestic second-hand market for enabling a domestic second-hand market for clean enabling a domestic second-hand market for clean vehicles enabling a domestic second-hand market for clean vehicles to market for clean vehicles to flourish market for clean vehicles to flourish for market for clean vehicles to flourish for all market for clean vehicles to flourish for all New market for clean vehicles to flourish for all New Zealanders market for clean vehicles to flourish for all New Zealanders to flourish for all New Zealanders to access. flourish for all New Zealanders to access. 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So, it is time in New Zealand and a record heatwave in Europe. So, it is time to in New Zealand and a record heatwave in Europe. So, it is time to act. in Europe. So, it is time to act. The in Europe. So, it is time to act. The reality in Europe. So, it is time to act. The reality of in Europe. So, it is time to act. The reality of climate in Europe. So, it is time to act. The reality of climate change in Europe. So, it is time to act. The reality of climate change is The reality of climate change is upon The reality of climate change is upon us. The reality of climate change is upon us. In The reality of climate change is upon us. In the The reality of climate change is upon us. In the transport The reality of climate change is upon us. In the transport sector, The reality of climate change is upon us. In the transport sector, as upon us. In the transport sector, as well upon us. In the transport sector, as well as upon us. In the transport sector, as well as the upon us. In the transport sector, as well as the Clean upon us. In the transport sector, as well as the Clean Car upon us. In the transport sector, as well as the Clean Car Discount well as the Clean Car Discount Scheme, well as the Clean Car Discount Scheme, the well as the Clean Car Discount Scheme, the Government well as the Clean Car Discount Scheme, the Government is well as the Clean Car Discount Scheme, the Government is building well as the Clean Car Discount Scheme, the Government is building a Scheme, the Government is building a mass Scheme, the Government is building a mass rapid Scheme, the Government is building a mass rapid transit Scheme, the Government is building a mass rapid transit solutions Scheme, the Government is building a mass rapid transit solutions in mass rapid transit solutions in major mass rapid transit solutions in major cities, mass rapid transit solutions in major cities, supporting mass rapid transit solutions in major cities, supporting public major cities, supporting public transport, major cities, supporting public transport, and major cities, supporting public transport, and investing major cities, supporting public transport, and investing in transport, and investing in high-quality transport, and investing in high-quality walking transport, and investing in high-quality walking and transport, and investing in high-quality walking and cycling high-quality walking and cycling projects high-quality walking and cycling projects all high-quality walking and cycling projects all around high-quality walking and cycling projects all around the high-quality walking and cycling projects all around the country, high-quality walking and cycling projects all around the country, and projects all around the country, and all projects all around the country, and all of projects all around the country, and all of these projects all around the country, and all of these measures projects all around the country, and all of these measures will projects all around the country, and all of these measures will help projects all around the country, and all of these measures will help to all of these measures will help to reduce all of these measures will help to reduce our all of these measures will help to reduce our carbon all of these measures will help to reduce our carbon emissions. all of these measures will help to reduce our carbon emissions. On all of these measures will help to reduce our carbon emissions. On this reduce our carbon emissions. On this side reduce our carbon emissions. On this side of reduce our carbon emissions. On this side of the reduce our carbon emissions. On this side of the House, reduce our carbon emissions. On this side of the House, we've reduce our carbon emissions. On this side of the House, we've set reduce our carbon emissions. On this side of the House, we've set out reduce our carbon emissions. On this side of the House, we've set out a side of the House, we've set out a pathway side of the House, we've set out a pathway to side of the House, we've set out a pathway to reaching side of the House, we've set out a pathway to reaching our side of the House, we've set out a pathway to reaching our emissions pathway to reaching our emissions targets pathway to reaching our emissions targets by pathway to reaching our emissions targets by 2050 pathway to reaching our emissions targets by 2050 and pathway to reaching our emissions targets by 2050 and the pathway to reaching our emissions targets by 2050 and the Clean pathway to reaching our emissions targets by 2050 and the Clean Car targets by 2050 and the Clean Car Discount targets by 2050 and the Clean Car Discount Scheme targets by 2050 and the Clean Car Discount Scheme is targets by 2050 and the Clean Car Discount Scheme is proving targets by 2050 and the Clean Car Discount Scheme is proving to targets by 2050 and the Clean Car Discount Scheme is proving to be Discount Scheme is proving to be enormously Discount Scheme is proving to be enormously successful, Discount Scheme is proving to be enormously successful, above enormously successful, above expectations, enormously successful, above expectations, in enormously successful, above expectations, in helping enormously successful, above expectations, in helping us enormously successful, above expectations, in helping us to enormously successful, above expectations, in helping us to get expectations, in helping us to get there. expectations, in helping us to get there. Supplementary, expectations, in helping us to get there. Supplementary, Simeon expectations, in helping us to get there. Supplementary, Simeon Brown. there. Supplementary, Simeon Brown. Has there. Supplementary, Simeon Brown. Has the there. Supplementary, Simeon Brown. Has the Minister there. Supplementary, Simeon Brown. Has the Minister seen there. Supplementary, Simeon Brown. Has the Minister seen reports there. Supplementary, Simeon Brown. Has the Minister seen reports that Has the Minister seen reports that the Has the Minister seen reports that the Clean Has the Minister seen reports that the Clean Car Has the Minister seen reports that the Clean Car Discount Has the Minister seen reports that the Clean Car Discount Scheme Has the Minister seen reports that the Clean Car Discount Scheme has the Clean Car Discount Scheme has paid the Clean Car Discount Scheme has paid out the Clean Car Discount Scheme has paid out more the Clean Car Discount Scheme has paid out more than the Clean Car Discount Scheme has paid out more than $85 the Clean Car Discount Scheme has paid out more than $85 million the Clean Car Discount Scheme has paid out more than $85 million more paid out more than $85 million more in paid out more than $85 million more in discounts paid out more than $85 million more in discounts and paid out more than $85 million more in discounts and subsidies paid out more than $85 million more in discounts and subsidies than paid out more than $85 million more in discounts and subsidies than has in discounts and subsidies than has been in discounts and subsidies than has been received in discounts and subsidies than has been received in in discounts and subsidies than has been received in fees? in discounts and subsidies than has been received in fees? And, in discounts and subsidies than has been received in fees? And, if in discounts and subsidies than has been received in fees? And, if so, been received in fees? And, if so, is been received in fees? And, if so, is the been received in fees? And, if so, is the Minister been received in fees? And, if so, is the Minister considering is the Minister considering increasing is the Minister considering increasing the is the Minister considering increasing the car is the Minister considering increasing the car tax is the Minister considering increasing the car tax on increasing the car tax on hardworking increasing the car tax on hardworking Kiwis increasing the car tax on hardworking Kiwis to increasing the car tax on hardworking Kiwis to continue hardworking Kiwis to continue subsidising hardworking Kiwis to continue subsidising wealthy hardworking Kiwis to continue subsidising wealthy Kiwis hardworking Kiwis to continue subsidising wealthy Kiwis who hardworking Kiwis to continue subsidising wealthy Kiwis who can subsidising wealthy Kiwis who can already subsidising wealthy Kiwis who can already afford subsidising wealthy Kiwis who can already afford Teslas? subsidising wealthy Kiwis who can already afford Teslas? I've subsidising wealthy Kiwis who can already afford Teslas? I've seen subsidising wealthy Kiwis who can already afford Teslas? I've seen a already afford Teslas? I've seen a range already afford Teslas? I've seen a range of already afford Teslas? I've seen a range of reports already afford Teslas? I've seen a range of reports about already afford Teslas? I've seen a range of reports about the already afford Teslas? I've seen a range of reports about the level already afford Teslas? I've seen a range of reports about the level of range of reports about the level of discounts range of reports about the level of discounts and range of reports about the level of discounts and fees range of reports about the level of discounts and fees charged range of reports about the level of discounts and fees charged under range of reports about the level of discounts and fees charged under the discounts and fees charged under the scheme, discounts and fees charged under the scheme, and discounts and fees charged under the scheme, and as discounts and fees charged under the scheme, and as anyone discounts and fees charged under the scheme, and as anyone who discounts and fees charged under the scheme, and as anyone who had discounts and fees charged under the scheme, and as anyone who had been scheme, and as anyone who had been following scheme, and as anyone who had been following the scheme, and as anyone who had been following the policy scheme, and as anyone who had been following the policy with scheme, and as anyone who had been following the policy with any scheme, and as anyone who had been following the policy with any detail following the policy with any detail would following the policy with any detail would be following the policy with any detail would be aware, following the policy with any detail would be aware, the following the policy with any detail would be aware, the fees following the policy with any detail would be aware, the fees under following the policy with any detail would be aware, the fees under the would be aware, the fees under the scheme would be aware, the fees under the scheme only would be aware, the fees under the scheme only came would be aware, the fees under the scheme only came into would be aware, the fees under the scheme only came into effect would be aware, the fees under the scheme only came into effect on would be aware, the fees under the scheme only came into effect on 1 scheme only came into effect on 1 April scheme only came into effect on 1 April this scheme only came into effect on 1 April this year, scheme only came into effect on 1 April this year, whereas scheme only came into effect on 1 April this year, whereas the scheme only came into effect on 1 April this year, whereas the rebate April this year, whereas the rebate started April this year, whereas the rebate started on April this year, whereas the rebate started on 1 April this year, whereas the rebate started on 1 July April this year, whereas the rebate started on 1 July last April this year, whereas the rebate started on 1 July last year. April this year, whereas the rebate started on 1 July last year. That April this year, whereas the rebate started on 1 July last year. That is started on 1 July last year. That is why started on 1 July last year. That is why there started on 1 July last year. That is why there is started on 1 July last year. That is why there is an started on 1 July last year. That is why there is an imbalance started on 1 July last year. That is why there is an imbalance at started on 1 July last year. That is why there is an imbalance at this why there is an imbalance at this stage why there is an imbalance at this stage and why there is an imbalance at this stage and there why there is an imbalance at this stage and there is why there is an imbalance at this stage and there is a why there is an imbalance at this stage and there is a much why there is an imbalance at this stage and there is a much closer stage and there is a much closer balance stage and there is a much closer balance between stage and there is a much closer balance between the stage and there is a much closer balance between the two stage and there is a much closer balance between the two over stage and there is a much closer balance between the two over recent balance between the two over recent months. balance between the two over recent months. In balance between the two over recent months. In respect balance between the two over recent months. In respect to balance between the two over recent months. In respect to the balance between the two over recent months. In respect to the member's months. In respect to the member's suggestion months. In respect to the member's suggestion that months. In respect to the member's suggestion that the months. In respect to the member's suggestion that the scheme months. In respect to the member's suggestion that the scheme is months. In respect to the member's suggestion that the scheme is only suggestion that the scheme is only delivering suggestion that the scheme is only delivering for suggestion that the scheme is only delivering for high-income suggestion that the scheme is only delivering for high-income New delivering for high-income New Zealanders, delivering for high-income New Zealanders, he delivering for high-income New Zealanders, he is delivering for high-income New Zealanders, he is absolutely delivering for high-income New Zealanders, he is absolutely wrong. Zealanders, he is absolutely wrong. The Zealanders, he is absolutely wrong. The largest-selling Zealanders, he is absolutely wrong. The largest-selling vehicle Zealanders, he is absolutely wrong. The largest-selling vehicle types The largest-selling vehicle types under The largest-selling vehicle types under the The largest-selling vehicle types under the Clean The largest-selling vehicle types under the Clean Car The largest-selling vehicle types under the Clean Car Discount The largest-selling vehicle types under the Clean Car Discount Scheme under the Clean Car Discount Scheme are under the Clean Car Discount Scheme are on under the Clean Car Discount Scheme are on the under the Clean Car Discount Scheme are on the used under the Clean Car Discount Scheme are on the used side under the Clean Car Discount Scheme are on the used side for under the Clean Car Discount Scheme are on the used side for vehicles are on the used side for vehicles that are on the used side for vehicles that are are on the used side for vehicles that are commonly are on the used side for vehicles that are commonly sold are on the used side for vehicles that are commonly sold at are on the used side for vehicles that are commonly sold at under that are commonly sold at under $20,000. $20,000. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Question <INTERRUPTION> Question No. <INTERRUPTION> Question No. 9 <INTERRUPTION> Question No. 9 in <INTERRUPTION> Question No. 9 in the <INTERRUPTION> Question No. 9 in the name <INTERRUPTION> Question No. 9 in the name of <INTERRUPTION> Question No. 9 in the name of Brooke Question No. 9 in the name of Brooke van Question No. 9 in the name of Brooke van Velden. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Health: My question is to the Minister of Health: How My question is to the Minister of Health: How many My question is to the Minister of Health: How many nurses My question is to the Minister of Health: How many nurses are Health: How many nurses are currently Health: How many nurses are currently needed Health: How many nurses are currently needed to Health: How many nurses are currently needed to eliminate currently needed to eliminate shortages currently needed to eliminate shortages within currently needed to eliminate shortages within the currently needed to eliminate shortages within the health currently needed to eliminate shortages within the health system, shortages within the health system, and shortages within the health system, and has shortages within the health system, and has this shortages within the health system, and has this number shortages within the health system, and has this number increased shortages within the health system, and has this number increased since and has this number increased since he and has this number increased since he stated and has this number increased since he stated in and has this number increased since he stated in April, and has this number increased since he stated in April, "We and has this number increased since he stated in April, "We are and has this number increased since he stated in April, "We are about he stated in April, "We are about 3,000 he stated in April, "We are about 3,000 nurses he stated in April, "We are about 3,000 nurses short he stated in April, "We are about 3,000 nurses short in he stated in April, "We are about 3,000 nurses short in our he stated in April, "We are about 3,000 nurses short in our public 3,000 nurses short in our public health 3,000 nurses short in our public health system. 3,000 nurses short in our public health system. In 3,000 nurses short in our public health system. In the 3,000 nurses short in our public health system. In the private health system. In the private sector, health system. In the private sector, aged health system. In the private sector, aged retirement, health system. In the private sector, aged retirement, it's sector, aged retirement, it's roughly sector, aged retirement, it's roughly 1,000 sector, aged retirement, it's roughly 1,000 nurses"? The The Hon The Hon Andrew The Hon Andrew Little. The Hon Andrew Little. As The Hon Andrew Little. As of The Hon Andrew Little. As of 31 The Hon Andrew Little. As of 31 March The Hon Andrew Little. As of 31 March this The Hon Andrew Little. As of 31 March this year, The Hon Andrew Little. As of 31 March this year, there The Hon Andrew Little. As of 31 March this year, there are The Hon Andrew Little. As of 31 March this year, there are recorded March this year, there are recorded 3,335 March this year, there are recorded 3,335 vacant March this year, there are recorded 3,335 vacant nursing 3,335 vacant nursing full-time-equivalent 3,335 vacant nursing full-time-equivalent positions 3,335 vacant nursing full-time-equivalent positions in full-time-equivalent positions in our full-time-equivalent positions in our public full-time-equivalent positions in our public health full-time-equivalent positions in our public health system. full-time-equivalent positions in our public health system. The full-time-equivalent positions in our public health system. The number our public health system. The number of our public health system. The number of nurses our public health system. The number of nurses working our public health system. The number of nurses working in our public health system. The number of nurses working in our our public health system. The number of nurses working in our public of nurses working in our public health of nurses working in our public health system of nurses working in our public health system has of nurses working in our public health system has increased of nurses working in our public health system has increased by of nurses working in our public health system has increased by about health system has increased by about 2,000 health system has increased by about 2,000 since health system has increased by about 2,000 since this health system has increased by about 2,000 since this Government health system has increased by about 2,000 since this Government was 2,000 since this Government was elected. 2,000 since this Government was elected. In 2,000 since this Government was elected. In regard 2,000 since this Government was elected. In regard to 2,000 since this Government was elected. In regard to the 2,000 since this Government was elected. In regard to the private elected. In regard to the private aged elected. In regard to the private aged care elected. In regard to the private aged care sector, elected. In regard to the private aged care sector, there elected. In regard to the private aged care sector, there are elected. In regard to the private aged care sector, there are a elected. In regard to the private aged care sector, there are a number aged care sector, there are a number of aged care sector, there are a number of private aged care sector, there are a number of private data aged care sector, there are a number of private data sets aged care sector, there are a number of private data sets that aged care sector, there are a number of private data sets that suggests of private data sets that suggests the of private data sets that suggests the number of private data sets that suggests the number of of private data sets that suggests the number of vacancies of private data sets that suggests the number of vacancies is of private data sets that suggests the number of vacancies is roughly the number of vacancies is roughly the the number of vacancies is roughly the figure the number of vacancies is roughly the figure that the number of vacancies is roughly the figure that the the number of vacancies is roughly the figure that the member the number of vacancies is roughly the figure that the member refers the figure that the member refers to. the figure that the member refers to. The the figure that the member refers to. The latest the figure that the member refers to. The latest figure the figure that the member refers to. The latest figure I've the figure that the member refers to. The latest figure I've seen to. The latest figure I've seen suggests to. The latest figure I've seen suggests it's to. The latest figure I've seen suggests it's about to. The latest figure I've seen suggests it's about 900, to. The latest figure I've seen suggests it's about 900, but to. The latest figure I've seen suggests it's about 900, but 900 to. The latest figure I've seen suggests it's about 900, but 900 to suggests it's about 900, but 900 to 1,000. suggests it's about 900, but 900 to 1,000. There suggests it's about 900, but 900 to 1,000. There are suggests it's about 900, but 900 to 1,000. There are a suggests it's about 900, but 900 to 1,000. There are a number suggests it's about 900, but 900 to 1,000. There are a number of 1,000. There are a number of measures 1,000. There are a number of measures being 1,000. There are a number of measures being taken 1,000. There are a number of measures being taken to 1,000. There are a number of measures being taken to address measures being taken to address health measures being taken to address health workforce measures being taken to address health workforce shortages. measures being taken to address health workforce shortages. Why, health workforce shortages. Why, then, health workforce shortages. Why, then, in health workforce shortages. Why, then, in reply health workforce shortages. Why, then, in reply to health workforce shortages. Why, then, in reply to my health workforce shortages. Why, then, in reply to my WPQ24316 health workforce shortages. Why, then, in reply to my WPQ24316 does then, in reply to my WPQ24316 does he then, in reply to my WPQ24316 does he state then, in reply to my WPQ24316 does he state that then, in reply to my WPQ24316 does he state that we then, in reply to my WPQ24316 does he state that we need then, in reply to my WPQ24316 does he state that we need 4,700 then, in reply to my WPQ24316 does he state that we need 4,700 nurses he state that we need 4,700 nurses to he state that we need 4,700 nurses to eliminate he state that we need 4,700 nurses to eliminate the he state that we need 4,700 nurses to eliminate the shortage? he state that we need 4,700 nurses to eliminate the shortage? And he state that we need 4,700 nurses to eliminate the shortage? And is to eliminate the shortage? And is this to eliminate the shortage? And is this a to eliminate the shortage? And is this a case to eliminate the shortage? And is this a case of to eliminate the shortage? And is this a case of the to eliminate the shortage? And is this a case of the Minister to eliminate the shortage? And is this a case of the Minister being this a case of the Minister being unaware this a case of the Minister being unaware of this a case of the Minister being unaware of the this a case of the Minister being unaware of the needs this a case of the Minister being unaware of the needs of this a case of the Minister being unaware of the needs of our this a case of the Minister being unaware of the needs of our nurses unaware of the needs of our nurses and unaware of the needs of our nurses and the unaware of the needs of our nurses and the health unaware of the needs of our nurses and the health system? unaware of the needs of our nurses and the health system? No. unaware of the needs of our nurses and the health system? No. It's unaware of the needs of our nurses and the health system? No. It's the and the health system? No. It's the fact and the health system? No. It's the fact that and the health system? No. It's the fact that there and the health system? No. It's the fact that there are and the health system? No. It's the fact that there are a and the health system? No. It's the fact that there are a range and the health system? No. It's the fact that there are a range of and the health system? No. It's the fact that there are a range of data fact that there are a range of data sets fact that there are a range of data sets around, fact that there are a range of data sets around, some fact that there are a range of data sets around, some which fact that there are a range of data sets around, some which combine fact that there are a range of data sets around, some which combine both sets around, some which combine both public sets around, some which combine both public and sets around, some which combine both public and private sets around, some which combine both public and private health sets around, some which combine both public and private health vacancies, public and private health vacancies, or public and private health vacancies, or nurse public and private health vacancies, or nurse vacancies, public and private health vacancies, or nurse vacancies, some public and private health vacancies, or nurse vacancies, some of public and private health vacancies, or nurse vacancies, some of which or nurse vacancies, some of which separate or nurse vacancies, some of which separate them or nurse vacancies, some of which separate them out. or nurse vacancies, some of which separate them out. I or nurse vacancies, some of which separate them out. I suspect or nurse vacancies, some of which separate them out. I suspect that separate them out. I suspect that figure separate them out. I suspect that figure was separate them out. I suspect that figure was a separate them out. I suspect that figure was a combination separate them out. I suspect that figure was a combination of separate them out. I suspect that figure was a combination of both figure was a combination of both public figure was a combination of both public and figure was a combination of both public and private figure was a combination of both public and private nurse figure was a combination of both public and private nurse vacancies. public and private nurse vacancies. Supplementary. public and private nurse vacancies. Supplementary. Is public and private nurse vacancies. Supplementary. Is the public and private nurse vacancies. Supplementary. Is the Minister public and private nurse vacancies. Supplementary. Is the Minister aware Supplementary. Is the Minister aware that Supplementary. Is the Minister aware that between Supplementary. Is the Minister aware that between January Supplementary. Is the Minister aware that between January and Supplementary. Is the Minister aware that between January and March Supplementary. Is the Minister aware that between January and March 2021, that between January and March 2021, Australia that between January and March 2021, Australia had that between January and March 2021, Australia had over that between January and March 2021, Australia had over 418 that between January and March 2021, Australia had over 418 more that between January and March 2021, Australia had over 418 more nurses Australia had over 418 more nurses caring Australia had over 418 more nurses caring for Australia had over 418 more nurses caring for every Australia had over 418 more nurses caring for every 100,000 Australia had over 418 more nurses caring for every 100,000 of Australia had over 418 more nurses caring for every 100,000 of their caring for every 100,000 of their citizens caring for every 100,000 of their citizens than caring for every 100,000 of their citizens than New caring for every 100,000 of their citizens than New Zealand caring for every 100,000 of their citizens than New Zealand did? caring for every 100,000 of their citizens than New Zealand did? And citizens than New Zealand did? And if citizens than New Zealand did? And if the citizens than New Zealand did? And if the Minister citizens than New Zealand did? And if the Minister is citizens than New Zealand did? And if the Minister is aware citizens than New Zealand did? And if the Minister is aware of citizens than New Zealand did? And if the Minister is aware of this, if the Minister is aware of this, why if the Minister is aware of this, why did if the Minister is aware of this, why did his if the Minister is aware of this, why did his Government if the Minister is aware of this, why did his Government not if the Minister is aware of this, why did his Government not put why did his Government not put nurses why did his Government not put nurses on why did his Government not put nurses on the why did his Government not put nurses on the green why did his Government not put nurses on the green list why did his Government not put nurses on the green list straight why did his Government not put nurses on the green list straight to nurses on the green list straight to residence nurses on the green list straight to residence pathway? nurses on the green list straight to residence pathway? I'm nurses on the green list straight to residence pathway? I'm not nurses on the green list straight to residence pathway? I'm not quite residence pathway? I'm not quite sure residence pathway? I'm not quite sure what residence pathway? I'm not quite sure what the residence pathway? I'm not quite sure what the relevance residence pathway? I'm not quite sure what the relevance of... sure what the relevance of... ..50,000 sure what the relevance of... ..50,000 is sure what the relevance of... ..50,000 is a sure what the relevance of... ..50,000 is a massive sure what the relevance of... ..50,000 is a massive shortage sure what the relevance of... ..50,000 is a massive shortage of ..50,000 is a massive shortage of registered ..50,000 is a massive shortage of registered nurses. ..50,000 is a massive shortage of registered nurses. We ..50,000 is a massive shortage of registered nurses. We have ..50,000 is a massive shortage of registered nurses. We have a registered nurses. We have a shortage registered nurses. We have a shortage of registered nurses. We have a shortage of registered registered nurses. We have a shortage of registered nurses. registered nurses. We have a shortage of registered nurses. We shortage of registered nurses. We have shortage of registered nurses. We have changed shortage of registered nurses. We have changed our shortage of registered nurses. We have changed our immigration have changed our immigration policies have changed our immigration policies and have changed our immigration policies and established have changed our immigration policies and established the have changed our immigration policies and established the Green policies and established the Green List, policies and established the Green List, which policies and established the Green List, which now policies and established the Green List, which now makes policies and established the Green List, which now makes it policies and established the Green List, which now makes it easier policies and established the Green List, which now makes it easier than List, which now makes it easier than ever List, which now makes it easier than ever before List, which now makes it easier than ever before for List, which now makes it easier than ever before for health List, which now makes it easier than ever before for health workers List, which now makes it easier than ever before for health workers in ever before for health workers in particular ever before for health workers in particular to ever before for health workers in particular to cross ever before for health workers in particular to cross our ever before for health workers in particular to cross our border ever before for health workers in particular to cross our border and particular to cross our border and take particular to cross our border and take up particular to cross our border and take up jobs particular to cross our border and take up jobs here, particular to cross our border and take up jobs here, and particular to cross our border and take up jobs here, and they particular to cross our border and take up jobs here, and they are take up jobs here, and they are queuing take up jobs here, and they are queuing up take up jobs here, and they are queuing up and take up jobs here, and they are queuing up and they take up jobs here, and they are queuing up and they are take up jobs here, and they are queuing up and they are taking take up jobs here, and they are queuing up and they are taking jobs queuing up and they are taking jobs here. queuing up and they are taking jobs here. 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Does the Minister agree that his Government has neglected the his Government has neglected the healthcare his Government has neglected the healthcare sector, his Government has neglected the healthcare sector, when his Government has neglected the healthcare sector, when the his Government has neglected the healthcare sector, when the number healthcare sector, when the number of healthcare sector, when the number of nurses healthcare sector, when the number of nurses working healthcare sector, when the number of nurses working per healthcare sector, when the number of nurses working per 100,000 healthcare sector, when the number of nurses working per 100,000 New of nurses working per 100,000 New Zealanders of nurses working per 100,000 New Zealanders has of nurses working per 100,000 New Zealanders has only of nurses working per 100,000 New Zealanders has only increased of nurses working per 100,000 New Zealanders has only increased by Zealanders has only increased by 5.57% Zealanders has only increased by 5.57% since Zealanders has only increased by 5.57% since March Zealanders has only increased by 5.57% since March 20-28, Zealanders has only increased by 5.57% since March 20-28, yesterday 5.57% since March 20-28, yesterday during 5.57% since March 20-28, yesterday during that 5.57% since March 20-28, yesterday during that same 5.57% since March 20-28, yesterday during that same time 5.57% since March 20-28, yesterday during that same time period, 5.57% since March 20-28, yesterday during that same time period, the during that same time period, the number during that same time period, the number of during that same time period, the number of nurses during that same time period, the number of nurses working during that same time period, the number of nurses working for during that same time period, the number of nurses working for every number of nurses working for every 100,000 number of nurses working for every 100,000 Australians number of nurses working for every 100,000 Australians increased number of nurses working for every 100,000 Australians increased by 100,000 Australians increased by over 100,000 Australians increased by over 13%? 100,000 Australians increased by over 13%? 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We are using every avenue that we can, become involved in this. We are using every avenue that we can, and using every avenue that we can, and I using every avenue that we can, and I can using every avenue that we can, and I can confirm using every avenue that we can, and I can confirm to using every avenue that we can, and I can confirm to the using every avenue that we can, and I can confirm to the member using every avenue that we can, and I can confirm to the member that I can confirm to the member that this I can confirm to the member that this is I can confirm to the member that this is of I can confirm to the member that this is of importance I can confirm to the member that this is of importance to I can confirm to the member that this is of importance to us. this is of importance to us. Supplementary this is of importance to us. Supplementary question. this is of importance to us. Supplementary question. Why this is of importance to us. Supplementary question. Why did this is of importance to us. Supplementary question. Why did she Supplementary question. Why did she not Supplementary question. Why did she not act Supplementary question. Why did she not act with Supplementary question. Why did she not act with more Supplementary question. Why did she not act with more urgency Supplementary question. Why did she not act with more urgency to not act with more urgency to guarantee not act with more urgency to guarantee our not act with more urgency to guarantee our participation not act with more urgency to guarantee our participation beyond guarantee our participation beyond doubt guarantee our participation beyond doubt when guarantee our participation beyond doubt when she guarantee our participation beyond doubt when she was guarantee our participation beyond doubt when she was advised guarantee our participation beyond doubt when she was advised by guarantee our participation beyond doubt when she was advised by her doubt when she was advised by her officials doubt when she was advised by her officials that, doubt when she was advised by her officials that, for doubt when she was advised by her officials that, for this doubt when she was advised by her officials that, for this cycle officials that, for this cycle especially, officials that, for this cycle especially, PISA officials that, for this cycle especially, PISA will officials that, for this cycle especially, PISA will contain especially, PISA will contain significant especially, PISA will contain significant insights especially, PISA will contain significant insights into especially, PISA will contain significant insights into how especially, PISA will contain significant insights into how our significant insights into how our learners significant insights into how our learners are significant insights into how our learners are doing significant insights into how our learners are doing academically significant insights into how our learners are doing academically and learners are doing academically and personally learners are doing academically and personally after learners are doing academically and personally after two learners are doing academically and personally after two years learners are doing academically and personally after two years of personally after two years of disruption personally after two years of disruption from personally after two years of disruption from the personally after two years of disruption from the COVID-19 disruption from the COVID-19 pandemic? disruption from the COVID-19 pandemic? I disruption from the COVID-19 pandemic? I refute disruption from the COVID-19 pandemic? I refute the disruption from the COVID-19 pandemic? I refute the premise disruption from the COVID-19 pandemic? I refute the premise of pandemic? I refute the premise of that pandemic? I refute the premise of that question. pandemic? I refute the premise of that question. I pandemic? I refute the premise of that question. I have pandemic? I refute the premise of that question. I have acted pandemic? I refute the premise of that question. I have acted with that question. I have acted with great that question. I have acted with great urgency that question. I have acted with great urgency around that question. I have acted with great urgency around this that question. I have acted with great urgency around this through great urgency around this through many great urgency around this through many different great urgency around this through many different avenues, great urgency around this through many different avenues, as great urgency around this through many different avenues, as I've great urgency around this through many different avenues, as I've said many different avenues, as I've said in many different avenues, as I've said in the many different avenues, as I've said in the last many different avenues, as I've said in the last supplementary many different avenues, as I've said in the last supplementary question. in the last supplementary question. Question in the last supplementary question. Question No. in the last supplementary question. Question No. 12 in the last supplementary question. Question No. 12 in in the last supplementary question. Question No. 12 in the in the last supplementary question. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Associate My question is to the Associate Minister My question is to the Associate Minister of My question is to the Associate Minister of Education My question is to the Associate Minister of Education (Pacific Minister of Education (Pacific Peoples): Minister of Education (Pacific Peoples): What Minister of Education (Pacific Peoples): What has Minister of Education (Pacific Peoples): What has the Minister of Education (Pacific Peoples): What has the Government Peoples): What has the Government done Peoples): What has the Government done for Peoples): What has the Government done for Pacific Peoples): What has the Government done for Pacific peoples Peoples): What has the Government done for Pacific peoples since Peoples): What has the Government done for Pacific peoples since the done for Pacific peoples since the delivery done for Pacific peoples since the delivery of done for Pacific peoples since the delivery of the done for Pacific peoples since the delivery of the formal done for Pacific peoples since the delivery of the formal Dawn done for Pacific peoples since the delivery of the formal Dawn Raids delivery of the formal Dawn Raids apology delivery of the formal Dawn Raids apology a delivery of the formal Dawn Raids apology a year delivery of the formal Dawn Raids apology a year ago? The The Hon The Hon William The Hon William Sio. The Hon William Sio. Today, The Hon William Sio. Today, the The Hon William Sio. Today, the Government The Hon William Sio. Today, the Government announced The Hon William Sio. Today, the Government announced 35 The Hon William Sio. Today, the Government announced 35 recipients Government announced 35 recipients of Government announced 35 recipients of the Government announced 35 recipients of the Takes Government announced 35 recipients of the Takes Flight Government announced 35 recipients of the Takes Flight scholarships, of the Takes Flight scholarships, which of the Takes Flight scholarships, which were of the Takes Flight scholarships, which were a of the Takes Flight scholarships, which were a key of the Takes Flight scholarships, which were a key part of the Takes Flight scholarships, which were a key part of of the Takes Flight scholarships, which were a key part of last of the Takes Flight scholarships, which were a key part of last year's which were a key part of last year's Dawn which were a key part of last year's Dawn Raids which were a key part of last year's Dawn Raids apology. which were a key part of last year's Dawn Raids apology. The -- -- the -- the scholarships -- the scholarships are -- the scholarships are a -- the scholarships are a part... -- the scholarships are a part... The -- the scholarships are a part... The Government -- the scholarships are a part... The Government tasked -- the scholarships are a part... The Government tasked the -- the scholarships are a part... The Government tasked the Minister The Government tasked the Minister of The Government tasked the Minister of Education The Government tasked the Minister of Education to The Government tasked the Minister of Education to establish The Government tasked the Minister of Education to establish the The Government tasked the Minister of Education to establish the Take of Education to establish the Take Flights of Education to establish the Take Flights scholarships of Education to establish the Take Flights scholarships for of Education to establish the Take Flights scholarships for Aotearoa Flights scholarships for Aotearoa Pacific Flights scholarships for Aotearoa Pacific peoples Flights scholarships for Aotearoa Pacific peoples as Flights scholarships for Aotearoa Pacific peoples as one Flights scholarships for Aotearoa Pacific peoples as one part Flights scholarships for Aotearoa Pacific peoples as one part of Flights scholarships for Aotearoa Pacific peoples as one part of the Pacific peoples as one part of the gesture Pacific peoples as one part of the gesture of Pacific peoples as one part of the gesture of goodwill Pacific peoples as one part of the gesture of goodwill reconciliation gesture of goodwill reconciliation package. gesture of goodwill reconciliation package. The gesture of goodwill reconciliation package. The bird gesture of goodwill reconciliation package. The bird migrates gesture of goodwill reconciliation package. The bird migrates from gesture of goodwill reconciliation package. The bird migrates from the package. The bird migrates from the Pacific package. The bird migrates from the Pacific on package. The bird migrates from the Pacific on a package. The bird migrates from the Pacific on a 20,000 package. The bird migrates from the Pacific on a 20,000 kilometre package. The bird migrates from the Pacific on a 20,000 kilometre round Pacific on a 20,000 kilometre round trip Pacific on a 20,000 kilometre round trip every Pacific on a 20,000 kilometre round trip every year, Pacific on a 20,000 kilometre round trip every year, and Pacific on a 20,000 kilometre round trip every year, and it's Pacific on a 20,000 kilometre round trip every year, and it's a Pacific on a 20,000 kilometre round trip every year, and it's a powerful trip every year, and it's a powerful symbol trip every year, and it's a powerful symbol of trip every year, and it's a powerful symbol of our trip every year, and it's a powerful symbol of our Pacific trip every year, and it's a powerful symbol of our Pacific peoples trip every year, and it's a powerful symbol of our Pacific peoples of symbol of our Pacific peoples of Aotearoa symbol of our Pacific peoples of Aotearoa and symbol of our Pacific peoples of Aotearoa and their symbol of our Pacific peoples of Aotearoa and their migration symbol of our Pacific peoples of Aotearoa and their migration story, Aotearoa and their migration story, their Aotearoa and their migration story, their stamina, Aotearoa and their migration story, their stamina, resilience, Aotearoa and their migration story, their stamina, resilience, courage, their stamina, resilience, courage, and their stamina, resilience, courage, and determination their stamina, resilience, courage, and determination to their stamina, resilience, courage, and determination to learn, their stamina, resilience, courage, and determination to learn, succeed, and determination to learn, succeed, and and determination to learn, succeed, and thrive and determination to learn, succeed, and thrive in and determination to learn, succeed, and thrive in Aotearoa and determination to learn, succeed, and thrive in Aotearoa New and determination to learn, succeed, and thrive in Aotearoa New Zealand. and thrive in Aotearoa New Zealand. How and thrive in Aotearoa New Zealand. How are and thrive in Aotearoa New Zealand. How are these and thrive in Aotearoa New Zealand. How are these scholarships and thrive in Aotearoa New Zealand. How are these scholarships going and thrive in Aotearoa New Zealand. How are these scholarships going to How are these scholarships going to support How are these scholarships going to support Pacific How are these scholarships going to support Pacific learners How are these scholarships going to support Pacific learners and How are these scholarships going to support Pacific learners and Pacific support Pacific learners and Pacific families? support Pacific learners and Pacific families? The support Pacific learners and Pacific families? The scholarships support Pacific learners and Pacific families? The scholarships will families? The scholarships will support families? The scholarships will support Pacific families? The scholarships will support Pacific learners families? The scholarships will support Pacific learners and support Pacific learners and families support Pacific learners and families to support Pacific learners and families to reach support Pacific learners and families to reach their support Pacific learners and families to reach their potential support Pacific learners and families to reach their potential by families to reach their potential by reducing families to reach their potential by reducing some families to reach their potential by reducing some of families to reach their potential by reducing some of the families to reach their potential by reducing some of the financial reducing some of the financial barriers reducing some of the financial barriers to reducing some of the financial barriers to study reducing some of the financial barriers to study or reducing some of the financial barriers to study or training, reducing some of the financial barriers to study or training, and barriers to study or training, and are barriers to study or training, and are part barriers to study or training, and are part of barriers to study or training, and are part of the barriers to study or training, and are part of the goodwill barriers to study or training, and are part of the goodwill gesture barriers to study or training, and are part of the goodwill gesture of are part of the goodwill gesture of reconciliation are part of the goodwill gesture of reconciliation to are part of the goodwill gesture of reconciliation to accompany are part of the goodwill gesture of reconciliation to accompany the are part of the goodwill gesture of reconciliation to accompany the New reconciliation to accompany the New Zealand reconciliation to accompany the New Zealand Government's reconciliation to accompany the New Zealand Government's apology reconciliation to accompany the New Zealand Government's apology to Zealand Government's apology to Pacific Zealand Government's apology to Pacific families Zealand Government's apology to Pacific families and Zealand Government's apology to Pacific families and communities Pacific families and communities impacted Pacific families and communities impacted by Pacific families and communities impacted by the Pacific families and communities impacted by the racist Pacific families and communities impacted by the racist experiences impacted by the racist experiences of impacted by the racist experiences of the impacted by the racist experiences of the Dawn impacted by the racist experiences of the Dawn Raids impacted by the racist experiences of the Dawn Raids in impacted by the racist experiences of the Dawn Raids in the impacted by the racist experiences of the Dawn Raids in the 1970s. impacted by the racist experiences of the Dawn Raids in the 1970s. Each of the Dawn Raids in the 1970s. Each of of the Dawn Raids in the 1970s. Each of the of the Dawn Raids in the 1970s. Each of the recipients of the Dawn Raids in the 1970s. Each of the recipients will of the Dawn Raids in the 1970s. Each of the recipients will receive of the recipients will receive between of the recipients will receive between $10,000 of the recipients will receive between $10,000 and of the recipients will receive between $10,000 and $30,000, between $10,000 and $30,000, depending between $10,000 and $30,000, depending on between $10,000 and $30,000, depending on their between $10,000 and $30,000, depending on their course between $10,000 and $30,000, depending on their course of between $10,000 and $30,000, depending on their course of study. depending on their course of study. Budget depending on their course of study. Budget 2022 depending on their course of study. Budget 2022 also depending on their course of study. Budget 2022 also allocated depending on their course of study. Budget 2022 also allocated more Budget 2022 also allocated more funding Budget 2022 also allocated more funding to Budget 2022 also allocated more funding to support Budget 2022 also allocated more funding to support additional funding to support additional scholarships funding to support additional scholarships in funding to support additional scholarships in the funding to support additional scholarships in the next funding to support additional scholarships in the next four funding to support additional scholarships in the next four years. scholarships in the next four years. The scholarships in the next four years. The successful scholarships in the next four years. The successful scholarship The successful scholarship recipients The successful scholarship recipients were The successful scholarship recipients were chosen The successful scholarship recipients were chosen from The successful scholarship recipients were chosen from right recipients were chosen from right across recipients were chosen from right across Aotearoa recipients were chosen from right across Aotearoa and recipients were chosen from right across Aotearoa and they recipients were chosen from right across Aotearoa and they and recipients were chosen from right across Aotearoa and they and their across Aotearoa and they and their families across Aotearoa and they and their families will across Aotearoa and they and their families will be across Aotearoa and they and their families will be present across Aotearoa and they and their families will be present at across Aotearoa and they and their families will be present at the families will be present at the first families will be present at the first year's families will be present at the first year's commemoration families will be present at the first year's commemoration of families will be present at the first year's commemoration of Dawn first year's commemoration of Dawn Raids first year's commemoration of Dawn Raids Apology first year's commemoration of Dawn Raids Apology on first year's commemoration of Dawn Raids Apology on 27 first year's commemoration of Dawn Raids Apology on 27 August. Raids Apology on 27 August. What Raids Apology on 27 August. What is Raids Apology on 27 August. What is going Raids Apology on 27 August. What is going to Raids Apology on 27 August. What is going to happen Raids Apology on 27 August. What is going to happen at Raids Apology on 27 August. What is going to happen at the Raids Apology on 27 August. What is going to happen at the first What is going to happen at the first commemoration What is going to happen at the first commemoration of What is going to happen at the first commemoration of the What is going to happen at the first commemoration of the Dawn What is going to happen at the first commemoration of the Dawn Raids commemoration of the Dawn Raids Apology commemoration of the Dawn Raids Apology on commemoration of the Dawn Raids Apology on 27 commemoration of the Dawn Raids Apology on 27 August? commemoration of the Dawn Raids Apology on 27 August? This commemoration of the Dawn Raids Apology on 27 August? This will Apology on 27 August? This will herald Apology on 27 August? This will herald a Apology on 27 August? This will herald a pivotal Apology on 27 August? This will herald a pivotal partnership Apology on 27 August? This will herald a pivotal partnership between herald a pivotal partnership between the herald a pivotal partnership between the iwi herald a pivotal partnership between the iwi and herald a pivotal partnership between the iwi and Pacific herald a pivotal partnership between the iwi and Pacific peoples herald a pivotal partnership between the iwi and Pacific peoples of the iwi and Pacific peoples of Aotearoa. the iwi and Pacific peoples of Aotearoa. It the iwi and Pacific peoples of Aotearoa. It signals the iwi and Pacific peoples of Aotearoa. It signals the Aotearoa. It signals the Government's Aotearoa. It signals the Government's commitment Aotearoa. It signals the Government's commitment to Aotearoa. It signals the Government's commitment to deliver Government's commitment to deliver on Government's commitment to deliver on education Government's commitment to deliver on education in Government's commitment to deliver on education in a Government's commitment to deliver on education in a comprehensive on education in a comprehensive historic on education in a comprehensive historic record on education in a comprehensive historic record of on education in a comprehensive historic record of the on education in a comprehensive historic record of the Dawn on education in a comprehensive historic record of the Dawn Raids on education in a comprehensive historic record of the Dawn Raids so historic record of the Dawn Raids so that historic record of the Dawn Raids so that we historic record of the Dawn Raids so that we can historic record of the Dawn Raids so that we can collectively historic record of the Dawn Raids so that we can collectively tackle historic record of the Dawn Raids so that we can collectively tackle the that we can collectively tackle the issues that we can collectively tackle the issues of that we can collectively tackle the issues of racism that we can collectively tackle the issues of racism and that we can collectively tackle the issues of racism and discrimination issues of racism and discrimination the issues of racism and discrimination the Government issues of racism and discrimination the Government apologised issues of racism and discrimination the Government apologised for issues of racism and discrimination the Government apologised for during the Government apologised for during the the Government apologised for during the Dawn the Government apologised for during the Dawn Raids the Government apologised for during the Dawn Raids period, the Government apologised for during the Dawn Raids period, and the Government apologised for during the Dawn Raids period, and of the Government apologised for during the Dawn Raids period, and of which the Dawn Raids period, and of which our the Dawn Raids period, and of which our young the Dawn Raids period, and of which our young Maori the Dawn Raids period, and of which our young Maori and the Dawn Raids period, and of which our young Maori and Pacific the Dawn Raids period, and of which our young Maori and Pacific people our young Maori and Pacific people continue our young Maori and Pacific people continue to our young Maori and Pacific people continue to experience our young Maori and Pacific people continue to experience and our young Maori and Pacific people continue to experience and talk continue to experience and talk about continue to experience and talk about even continue to experience and talk about even today. continue to experience and talk about even today. Maori continue to experience and talk about even today. Maori and continue to experience and talk about even today. Maori and Pacific about even today. Maori and Pacific acknowledge about even today. Maori and Pacific acknowledge the about even today. Maori and Pacific acknowledge the need about even today. Maori and Pacific acknowledge the need to about even today. Maori and Pacific acknowledge the need to fight acknowledge the need to fight against acknowledge the need to fight against systemic acknowledge the need to fight against systemic racism acknowledge the need to fight against systemic racism and against systemic racism and discrimination, against systemic racism and discrimination, and against systemic racism and discrimination, and will against systemic racism and discrimination, and will forge against systemic racism and discrimination, and will forge a against systemic racism and discrimination, and will forge a new discrimination, and will forge a new partnership discrimination, and will forge a new partnership utilising discrimination, and will forge a new partnership utilising education, discrimination, and will forge a new partnership utilising education, and partnership utilising education, and these partnership utilising education, and these scholarships partnership utilising education, and these scholarships as partnership utilising education, and these scholarships as one partnership utilising education, and these scholarships as one of partnership utilising education, and these scholarships as one of a these scholarships as one of a number these scholarships as one of a number of these scholarships as one of a number of tools these scholarships as one of a number of tools to these scholarships as one of a number of tools to combat these scholarships as one of a number of tools to combat racism these scholarships as one of a number of tools to combat racism and number of tools to combat racism and discrimination number of tools to combat racism and discrimination in number of tools to combat racism and discrimination in Aotearoa. number of tools to combat racism and discrimination in Aotearoa. The discrimination in Aotearoa. The lessons discrimination in Aotearoa. The lessons from discrimination in Aotearoa. The lessons from the discrimination in Aotearoa. The lessons from the Dawn discrimination in Aotearoa. The lessons from the Dawn Raid lessons from the Dawn Raid experience lessons from the Dawn Raid experience is lessons from the Dawn Raid experience is good lessons from the Dawn Raid experience is good Governments lessons from the Dawn Raid experience is good Governments must experience is good Governments must eliminate experience is good Governments must eliminate racism experience is good Governments must eliminate racism and experience is good Governments must eliminate racism and discrimination eliminate racism and discrimination in eliminate racism and discrimination in all eliminate racism and discrimination in all levels, eliminate racism and discrimination in all levels, for eliminate racism and discrimination in all levels, for the eliminate racism and discrimination in all levels, for the sake eliminate racism and discrimination in all levels, for the sake of eliminate racism and discrimination in all levels, for the sake of young in all levels, for the sake of young people in all levels, for the sake of young people realising in all levels, for the sake of young people realising their in all levels, for the sake of young people realising their fullest people realising their fullest potential. people realising their fullest potential. Thank people realising their fullest potential. Thank you. people realising their fullest potential. Thank you. Does people realising their fullest potential. Thank you. Does he people realising their fullest potential. Thank you. Does he agree potential. Thank you. Does he agree with potential. Thank you. Does he agree with the potential. Thank you. Does he agree with the princess, potential. Thank you. Does he agree with the princess, who potential. Thank you. Does he agree with the princess, who said, potential. Thank you. Does he agree with the princess, who said, "The with the princess, who said, "The Government with the princess, who said, "The Government should with the princess, who said, "The Government should address with the princess, who said, "The Government should address the Government should address the immigration Government should address the immigration needs Government should address the immigration needs of Government should address the immigration needs of the Government should address the immigration needs of the Pacific immigration needs of the Pacific community immigration needs of the Pacific community as immigration needs of the Pacific community as part immigration needs of the Pacific community as part of immigration needs of the Pacific community as part of the immigration needs of the Pacific community as part of the apology"? community as part of the apology"? And community as part of the apology"? And if community as part of the apology"? And if so, community as part of the apology"? And if so, will community as part of the apology"? And if so, will he community as part of the apology"? And if so, will he advocate community as part of the apology"? And if so, will he advocate for community as part of the apology"? And if so, will he advocate for an And if so, will he advocate for an amnesty And if so, will he advocate for an amnesty for And if so, will he advocate for an amnesty for overstayers? And if so, will he advocate for an amnesty for overstayers? As And if so, will he advocate for an amnesty for overstayers? As the amnesty for overstayers? As the Population amnesty for overstayers? As the Population Minister, amnesty for overstayers? As the Population Minister, I amnesty for overstayers? As the Population Minister, I constantly Population Minister, I constantly advocate Population Minister, I constantly advocate for Population Minister, I constantly advocate for all Population Minister, I constantly advocate for all the Population Minister, I constantly advocate for all the things Population Minister, I constantly advocate for all the things our advocate for all the things our Pacific advocate for all the things our Pacific communities advocate for all the things our Pacific communities ask advocate for all the things our Pacific communities ask for. advocate for all the things our Pacific communities ask for. And Pacific communities ask for. And it's Pacific communities ask for. And it's well-known Pacific communities ask for. And it's well-known my Pacific communities ask for. And it's well-known my view, Pacific communities ask for. And it's well-known my view, the it's well-known my view, the Minister it's well-known my view, the Minister of it's well-known my view, the Minister of Immigration, it's well-known my view, the Minister of Immigration, and it's well-known my view, the Minister of Immigration, and that it's well-known my view, the Minister of Immigration, and that is Minister of Immigration, and that is part Minister of Immigration, and that is part of Minister of Immigration, and that is part of the Minister of Immigration, and that is part of the immigration Minister of Immigration, and that is part of the immigration reset Minister of Immigration, and that is part of the immigration reset work part of the immigration reset work that's part of the immigration reset work that's currently part of the immigration reset work that's currently happening. part of the immigration reset work that's currently happening. That that's currently happening. That concludes that's currently happening. That concludes Oral that's currently happening. That concludes Oral Questions. that's currently happening. That concludes Oral Questions. I that's currently happening. That concludes Oral Questions. I call that's currently happening. That concludes Oral Questions. I call on concludes Oral Questions. I call on Government concludes Oral Questions. I call on Government Order concludes Oral Questions. I call on Government Order of concludes Oral Questions. I call on Government Order of the concludes Oral Questions. I call on Government Order of the Day concludes Oral Questions. I call on Government Order of the Day No. concludes Oral Questions. I call on Government Order of the Day No. 1. Government Order of the Day No. 1. Overseas Government Order of the Day No. 1. Overseas Investment Government Order of the Day No. 1. Overseas Investment (Forestry) Overseas Investment (Forestry) Amendment Overseas Investment (Forestry) Amendment Bill, Overseas Investment (Forestry) Amendment Bill, third Overseas Investment (Forestry) Amendment Bill, third reading. Overseas Investment (Forestry) Amendment Bill, third reading. The Amendment Bill, third reading. The Hon Amendment Bill, third reading. The Hon David Amendment Bill, third reading. The Hon David Parker. Amendment Bill, third reading. The Hon David Parker. I Amendment Bill, third reading. The Hon David Parker. I present Amendment Bill, third reading. The Hon David Parker. I present a Hon David Parker. I present a legislative Hon David Parker. I present a legislative statement Hon David Parker. I present a legislative statement on Hon David Parker. I present a legislative statement on the legislative statement on the Overseas legislative statement on the Overseas Investment legislative statement on the Overseas Investment (Forestry) Overseas Investment (Forestry) Amendment Overseas Investment (Forestry) Amendment Bill. Overseas Investment (Forestry) Amendment Bill. That Overseas Investment (Forestry) Amendment Bill. That legislative Amendment Bill. That legislative statement Amendment Bill. That legislative statement is Amendment Bill. That legislative statement is published Amendment Bill. That legislative statement is published under Amendment Bill. That legislative statement is published under the statement is published under the authority statement is published under the authority of statement is published under the authority of the statement is published under the authority of the House statement is published under the authority of the House and