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If so, fully participate in their communities? If so, will fully participate in their communities? If so, will he communities? If so, will he introduce communities? If so, will he introduce an communities? If so, will he introduce an amnesty communities? If so, will he introduce an amnesty for introduce an amnesty for overstayers? introduce an amnesty for overstayers? I introduce an amnesty for overstayers? I refer introduce an amnesty for overstayers? I refer to introduce an amnesty for overstayers? I refer to my introduce an amnesty for overstayers? I refer to my previous overstayers? I refer to my previous answer overstayers? I refer to my previous answer which overstayers? I refer to my previous answer which is overstayers? I refer to my previous answer which is that overstayers? I refer to my previous answer which is that the overstayers? 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That's visa to enter New Zealand. That's been visa to enter New Zealand. That's been part visa to enter New Zealand. That's been part of visa to enter New Zealand. That's been part of our visa to enter New Zealand. That's been part of our immigration visa to enter New Zealand. That's been part of our immigration system been part of our immigration system for been part of our immigration system for a been part of our immigration system for a long been part of our immigration system for a long time. been part of our immigration system for a long time. It's been part of our immigration system for a long time. It's part been part of our immigration system for a long time. It's part of been part of our immigration system for a long time. It's part of the for a long time. It's part of the assurance for a long time. It's part of the assurance we for a long time. It's part of the assurance we seek for a long time. It's part of the assurance we seek to for a long time. It's part of the assurance we seek to insure for a long time. It's part of the assurance we seek to insure that assurance we seek to insure that people assurance we seek to insure that people planning assurance we seek to insure that people planning coming assurance we seek to insure that people planning coming to assurance we seek to insure that people planning coming to New people planning coming to New Zealand people planning coming to New Zealand are people planning coming to New Zealand are doing people planning coming to New Zealand are doing so people planning coming to New Zealand are doing so on people planning coming to New Zealand are doing so on a people planning coming to New Zealand are doing so on a bona people planning coming to New Zealand are doing so on a bona fide Zealand are doing so on a bona fide basis. Zealand are doing so on a bona fide basis. I'm Zealand are doing so on a bona fide basis. I'm reasonably Zealand are doing so on a bona fide basis. I'm reasonably satisfied Zealand are doing so on a bona fide basis. I'm reasonably satisfied with basis. I'm reasonably satisfied with that basis. I'm reasonably satisfied with that policy basis. I'm reasonably satisfied with that policy at basis. I'm reasonably satisfied with that policy at this basis. I'm reasonably satisfied with that policy at this stage. basis. I'm reasonably satisfied with that policy at this stage. I basis. I'm reasonably satisfied with that policy at this stage. I note that policy at this stage. I note the that policy at this stage. I note the vast that policy at this stage. I note the vast majority that policy at this stage. I note the vast majority of that policy at this stage. I note the vast majority of people that policy at this stage. I note the vast majority of people from that policy at this stage. I note the vast majority of people from the the vast majority of people from the country the vast majority of people from the country the the vast majority of people from the country the member the vast majority of people from the country the member references country the member references successfully country the member references successfully receive country the member references successfully receive visas country the member references successfully receive visas after successfully receive visas after they successfully receive visas after they have successfully receive visas after they have applied successfully receive visas after they have applied for successfully receive visas after they have applied for them. successfully receive visas after they have applied for them. Question they have applied for them. Question No. they have applied for them. Question No. 4, they have applied for them. Question No. 4, Angela they have applied for them. Question No. 4, Angela Roberts. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Education: Education: What Education: What reports Education: What reports has Education: What reports has he Education: What reports has he seen Education: What reports has he seen about What reports has he seen about trends What reports has he seen about trends in What reports has he seen about trends in the What reports has he seen about trends in the number What reports has he seen about trends in the number of What reports has he seen about trends in the number of New trends in the number of New Zealanders trends in the number of New Zealanders in trends in the number of New Zealanders in apprenticeships? The The Hon The Hon Chris The Hon Chris Hipkins. The Hon Chris Hipkins. I've The Hon Chris Hipkins. I've seen The Hon Chris Hipkins. I've seen a The Hon Chris Hipkins. I've seen a report The Hon Chris Hipkins. I've seen a report that The Hon Chris Hipkins. I've seen a report that the The Hon Chris Hipkins. I've seen a report that the number The Hon Chris Hipkins. I've seen a report that the number of The Hon Chris Hipkins. I've seen a report that the number of Kiwis report that the number of Kiwis learning report that the number of Kiwis learning on report that the number of Kiwis learning on the report that the number of Kiwis learning on the job report that the number of Kiwis learning on the job as report that the number of Kiwis learning on the job as an report that the number of Kiwis learning on the job as an apprentice learning on the job as an apprentice has learning on the job as an apprentice has increased learning on the job as an apprentice has increased from learning on the job as an apprentice has increased from 29,965 learning on the job as an apprentice has increased from 29,965 to learning on the job as an apprentice has increased from 29,965 to 57,105. has increased from 29,965 to 57,105. That's has increased from 29,965 to 57,105. That's an has increased from 29,965 to 57,105. That's an increase has increased from 29,965 to 57,105. That's an increase of has increased from 29,965 to 57,105. That's an increase of 91%, has increased from 29,965 to 57,105. That's an increase of 91%, or has increased from 29,965 to 57,105. That's an increase of 91%, or over That's an increase of 91%, or over 27,000 That's an increase of 91%, or over 27,000 more That's an increase of 91%, or over 27,000 more apprentices That's an increase of 91%, or over 27,000 more apprentices training 27,000 more apprentices training today 27,000 more apprentices training today than 27,000 more apprentices training today than there 27,000 more apprentices training today than there were 27,000 more apprentices training today than there were five 27,000 more apprentices training today than there were five years today than there were five years ago. today than there were five years ago. Has today than there were five years ago. Has the today than there were five years ago. Has the number today than there were five years ago. Has the number of today than there were five years ago. Has the number of women ago. Has the number of women apprentices ago. Has the number of women apprentices kept ago. Has the number of women apprentices kept pace ago. Has the number of women apprentices kept pace with ago. Has the number of women apprentices kept pace with the apprentices kept pace with the overall apprentices kept pace with the overall increase? apprentices kept pace with the overall increase? Actually, apprentices kept pace with the overall increase? Actually, no. apprentices kept pace with the overall increase? Actually, no. The overall increase? Actually, no. The growth overall increase? Actually, no. The growth for overall increase? Actually, no. The growth for women overall increase? Actually, no. The growth for women has overall increase? Actually, no. The growth for women has significantly growth for women has significantly outpaced growth for women has significantly outpaced the growth for women has significantly outpaced the growth growth for women has significantly outpaced the growth for growth for women has significantly outpaced the growth for men. growth for women has significantly outpaced the growth for men. Albeit outpaced the growth for men. Albeit from outpaced the growth for men. Albeit from a outpaced the growth for men. Albeit from a low outpaced the growth for men. Albeit from a low base. outpaced the growth for men. Albeit from a low base. The outpaced the growth for men. Albeit from a low base. The number outpaced the growth for men. Albeit from a low base. The number of outpaced the growth for men. Albeit from a low base. The number of women from a low base. The number of women in from a low base. The number of women in apprenticeships from a low base. The number of women in apprenticeships has from a low base. The number of women in apprenticeships has more from a low base. The number of women in apprenticeships has more than in apprenticeships has more than tripled, in apprenticeships has more than tripled, a in apprenticeships has more than tripled, a 224% in apprenticeships has more than tripled, a 224% increase, in apprenticeships has more than tripled, a 224% increase, from in apprenticeships has more than tripled, a 224% increase, from 2,540 tripled, a 224% increase, from 2,540 to tripled, a 224% increase, from 2,540 to 8,240. to 8,240. Supplementary. to 8,240. Supplementary. What to 8,240. Supplementary. What industries to 8,240. Supplementary. What industries have Supplementary. What industries have seen Supplementary. What industries have seen the Supplementary. What industries have seen the largest Supplementary. What industries have seen the largest growth Supplementary. What industries have seen the largest growth in seen the largest growth in apprenticeships? seen the largest growth in apprenticeships? The seen the largest growth in apprenticeships? The construction apprenticeships? The construction sector apprenticeships? The construction sector has apprenticeships? The construction sector has been apprenticeships? The construction sector has been the apprenticeships? The construction sector has been the biggest apprenticeships? The construction sector has been the biggest cribsor sector has been the biggest cribsor to sector has been the biggest cribsor to overall sector has been the biggest cribsor to overall apprenticeship sector has been the biggest cribsor to overall apprenticeship growth. to overall apprenticeship growth. Construction to overall apprenticeship growth. Construction apprenticeships to overall apprenticeship growth. Construction apprenticeships have Construction apprenticeships have increased Construction apprenticeships have increased by Construction apprenticeships have increased by 105% Construction apprenticeships have increased by 105% from Construction apprenticeships have increased by 105% from 12,755 Construction apprenticeships have increased by 105% from 12,755 to increased by 105% from 12,755 to 26,150. increased by 105% from 12,755 to 26,150. That's increased by 105% from 12,755 to 26,150. That's more increased by 105% from 12,755 to 26,150. That's more than increased by 105% from 12,755 to 26,150. That's more than 13,000 increased by 105% from 12,755 to 26,150. That's more than 13,000 more 26,150. That's more than 13,000 more construction 26,150. That's more than 13,000 more construction apprentices. 26,150. That's more than 13,000 more construction apprentices. Another construction apprentices. Another significant construction apprentices. Another significant area construction apprentices. Another significant area of construction apprentices. Another significant area of growth construction apprentices. Another significant area of growth has construction apprentices. Another significant area of growth has been significant area of growth has been health significant area of growth has been health care significant area of growth has been health care and significant area of growth has been health care and social significant area of growth has been health care and social assistance, health care and social assistance, which health care and social assistance, which has health care and social assistance, which has had health care and social assistance, which has had 400% health care and social assistance, which has had 400% growth health care and social assistance, which has had 400% growth from health care and social assistance, which has had 400% growth from 455 which has had 400% growth from 455 to which has had 400% growth from 455 to 2,275 which has had 400% growth from 455 to 2,275 apprentices, which has had 400% growth from 455 to 2,275 apprentices, 74% which has had 400% growth from 455 to 2,275 apprentices, 74% of which has had 400% growth from 455 to 2,275 apprentices, 74% of whom to 2,275 apprentices, 74% of whom are to 2,275 apprentices, 74% of whom are women. to 2,275 apprentices, 74% of whom are women. Has to 2,275 apprentices, 74% of whom are women. Has the to 2,275 apprentices, 74% of whom are women. Has the growth to 2,275 apprentices, 74% of whom are women. Has the growth in are women. Has the growth in apprenticeships are women. Has the growth in apprenticeships been are women. Has the growth in apprenticeships been primarily are women. Has the growth in apprenticeships been primarily among apprenticeships been primarily among young apprenticeships been primarily among young people? apprenticeships been primarily among young people? No. apprenticeships been primarily among young people? No. There apprenticeships been primarily among young people? No. There has apprenticeships been primarily among young people? No. There has been apprenticeships been primarily among young people? No. There has been a young people? No. There has been a 78% young people? No. There has been a 78% growth young people? No. There has been a 78% growth in young people? No. There has been a 78% growth in the young people? No. There has been a 78% growth in the number young people? No. There has been a 78% growth in the number of 78% growth in the number of apprentices 78% growth in the number of apprentices under 78% growth in the number of apprentices under the 78% growth in the number of apprentices under the age 78% growth in the number of apprentices under the age of 78% growth in the number of apprentices under the age of 20 78% growth in the number of apprentices under the age of 20 but apprentices under the age of 20 but even apprentices under the age of 20 but even bigger apprentices under the age of 20 but even bigger growth apprentices under the age of 20 but even bigger growth in apprentices under the age of 20 but even bigger growth in older apprentices under the age of 20 but even bigger growth in older age even bigger growth in older age groups. even bigger growth in older age groups. There's even bigger growth in older age groups. There's been even bigger growth in older age groups. There's been a even bigger growth in older age groups. There's been a 189% even bigger growth in older age groups. There's been a 189% growth groups. There's been a 189% growth in groups. There's been a 189% growth in the groups. There's been a 189% growth in the number groups. There's been a 189% growth in the number of groups. There's been a 189% growth in the number of apprentices groups. There's been a 189% growth in the number of apprentices aged groups. There's been a 189% growth in the number of apprentices aged 40 in the number of apprentices aged 40 and in the number of apprentices aged 40 and above. in the number of apprentices aged 40 and above. Question in the number of apprentices aged 40 and above. Question No. in the number of apprentices aged 40 and above. Question No. 5, in the number of apprentices aged 40 and above. Question No. 5, Erica and above. Question No. 5, Erica Stanford. 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In particular I stand by my statement last week welcoming the statement last week welcoming the significant statement last week welcoming the significant increase statement last week welcoming the significant increase in statement last week welcoming the significant increase in working significant increase in working holiday significant increase in working holiday visas significant increase in working holiday visas that significant increase in working holiday visas that have significant increase in working holiday visas that have arrived significant increase in working holiday visas that have arrived in holiday visas that have arrived in the holiday visas that have arrived in the country holiday visas that have arrived in the country ahead holiday visas that have arrived in the country ahead of holiday visas that have arrived in the country ahead of summer holiday visas that have arrived in the country ahead of summer and holiday visas that have arrived in the country ahead of summer and I the country ahead of summer and I can the country ahead of summer and I can inform the country ahead of summer and I can inform the the country ahead of summer and I can inform the House the country ahead of summer and I can inform the House that the country ahead of summer and I can inform the House that 18,737 can inform the House that 18,737 such can inform the House that 18,737 such people can inform the House that 18,737 such people have can inform the House that 18,737 such people have been can inform the House that 18,737 such people have been arrived can inform the House that 18,737 such people have been arrived in can inform the House that 18,737 such people have been arrived in the such people have been arrived in the country such people have been arrived in the country supported such people have been arrived in the country supported by such people have been arrived in the country supported by changes such people have been arrived in the country supported by changes the country supported by changes the Government country supported by changes the Government has country supported by changes the Government has made country supported by changes the Government has made to country supported by changes the Government has made to double country supported by changes the Government has made to double the Government has made to double the cap Government has made to double the cap scheme Government has made to double the cap scheme numbers Government has made to double the cap scheme numbers for Government has made to double the cap scheme numbers for the Government has made to double the cap scheme numbers for the coming cap scheme numbers for the coming summer. cap scheme numbers for the coming summer. I cap scheme numbers for the coming summer. I look cap scheme numbers for the coming summer. I look forward cap scheme numbers for the coming summer. I look forward to cap scheme numbers for the coming summer. I look forward to seeing summer. I look forward to seeing this summer. I look forward to seeing this strong summer. I look forward to seeing this strong tend summer. I look forward to seeing this strong tend trend summer. I look forward to seeing this strong tend trend continue summer. I look forward to seeing this strong tend trend continue as this strong tend trend continue as we this strong tend trend continue as we prepare this strong tend trend continue as we prepare for this strong tend trend continue as we prepare for a this strong tend trend continue as we prepare for a bumper this strong tend trend continue as we prepare for a bumper summer we prepare for a bumper summer tourism we prepare for a bumper summer tourism season. we prepare for a bumper summer tourism season. Supplementary. we prepare for a bumper summer tourism season. Supplementary. Why, tourism season. Supplementary. Why, after tourism season. Supplementary. Why, after Treasury's tourism season. Supplementary. Why, after Treasury's economic tourism season. Supplementary. Why, after Treasury's economic update tourism season. Supplementary. Why, after Treasury's economic update in after Treasury's economic update in October after Treasury's economic update in October 2021 after Treasury's economic update in October 2021 that after Treasury's economic update in October 2021 that stated after Treasury's economic update in October 2021 that stated labour October 2021 that stated labour shortages October 2021 that stated labour shortages continue October 2021 that stated labour shortages continue to October 2021 that stated labour shortages continue to pose October 2021 that stated labour shortages continue to pose barriers shortages continue to pose barriers to shortages continue to pose barriers to growth shortages continue to pose barriers to growth and shortages continue to pose barriers to growth and will shortages continue to pose barriers to growth and will keep shortages continue to pose barriers to growth and will keep inflationary to growth and will keep inflationary pressure to growth and will keep inflationary pressure elevated to growth and will keep inflationary pressure elevated did to growth and will keep inflationary pressure elevated did the to growth and will keep inflationary pressure elevated did the Government pressure elevated did the Government not pressure elevated did the Government not move pressure elevated did the Government not move more pressure elevated did the Government not move more quickly pressure elevated did the Government not move more quickly to pressure elevated did the Government not move more quickly to allow not move more quickly to allow skilled not move more quickly to allow skilled workers not move more quickly to allow skilled workers to not move more quickly to allow skilled workers to apply not move more quickly to allow skilled workers to apply for not move more quickly to allow skilled workers to apply for the skilled workers to apply for the AEWV skilled workers to apply for the AEWV visa skilled workers to apply for the AEWV visa in skilled workers to apply for the AEWV visa in March skilled workers to apply for the AEWV visa in March rather skilled workers to apply for the AEWV visa in March rather than skilled workers to apply for the AEWV visa in March rather than July? 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We have provided temporary labour offshore. We have provided approvals temporary labour offshore. We have provided approvals for temporary labour offshore. We have provided approvals for over temporary labour offshore. 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Chris Baillie. successful successful applicants successful applicants in successful applicants in April successful applicants in April 2023. successful applicants in April 2023. Question successful applicants in April 2023. Question No.7. successful applicants in April 2023. Question No.7. Chris successful applicants in April 2023. Question No.7. Chris Baillie. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Police: Police: What Police: What changes Police: What changes will Police: What changes will the Police: What changes will the Government What changes will the Government make What changes will the Government make to What changes will the Government make to its What changes will the Government make to its response What changes will the Government make to its response to What changes will the Government make to its response to retail make to its response to retail crime, make to its response to retail crime, after make to its response to retail crime, after the make to its response to retail crime, after the fatal make to its response to retail crime, after the fatal stabbing make to its response to retail crime, after the fatal stabbing of make to its response to retail crime, after the fatal stabbing of a crime, after the fatal stabbing of a dairy crime, after the fatal stabbing of a dairy worker crime, after the fatal stabbing of a dairy worker in crime, after the fatal stabbing of a dairy worker in Sandringham crime, after the fatal stabbing of a dairy worker in Sandringham last dairy worker in Sandringham last night, dairy worker in Sandringham last night, if dairy worker in Sandringham last night, if any, night, if any, and night, if any, and will night, if any, and will the night, if any, and will the Government night, if any, and will the Government now night, if any, and will the Government now remove and will the Government now remove the and will the Government now remove the criterion and will the Government now remove the criterion that and will the Government now remove the criterion that a and will the Government now remove the criterion that a retailer and will the Government now remove the criterion that a retailer must the criterion that a retailer must first the criterion that a retailer must first be the criterion that a retailer must first be a the criterion that a retailer must first be a victim the criterion that a retailer must first be a victim of the criterion that a retailer must first be a victim of crime the criterion that a retailer must first be a victim of crime in the criterion that a retailer must first be a victim of crime in order first be a victim of crime in order for first be a victim of crime in order for them first be a victim of crime in order for them to first be a victim of crime in order for them to access first be a victim of crime in order for them to access funding first be a victim of crime in order for them to access funding from first be a victim of crime in order for them to access funding from the for them to access funding from the Retail for them to access funding from the Retail Crime for them to access funding from the Retail Crime Prevention for them to access funding from the Retail Crime Prevention Programme? The The Hon The Hon Chris The Hon Chris Hipkins. The Hon Chris Hipkins. I'd The Hon Chris Hipkins. I'd like The Hon Chris Hipkins. I'd like to The Hon Chris Hipkins. I'd like to begin The Hon Chris Hipkins. I'd like to begin by The Hon Chris Hipkins. I'd like to begin by acknowledging The Hon Chris Hipkins. I'd like to begin by acknowledging the The Hon Chris Hipkins. I'd like to begin by acknowledging the tragic begin by acknowledging the tragic event begin by acknowledging the tragic event in begin by acknowledging the tragic event in Auckland begin by acknowledging the tragic event in Auckland last begin by acknowledging the tragic event in Auckland last night. begin by acknowledging the tragic event in Auckland last night. I event in Auckland last night. I commend event in Auckland last night. I commend the event in Auckland last night. I commend the efforts event in Auckland last night. I commend the efforts of event in Auckland last night. I commend the efforts of the event in Auckland last night. 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As their family and to the local community. As I've their family and to the local community. As I've indicated community. As I've indicated previously community. As I've indicated previously I community. As I've indicated previously I have community. As I've indicated previously I have already community. As I've indicated previously I have already been previously I have already been reviewing previously I have already been reviewing the previously I have already been reviewing the criteria previously I have already been reviewing the criteria to previously I have already been reviewing the criteria to access previously I have already been reviewing the criteria to access the reviewing the criteria to access the retail reviewing the criteria to access the retail crime reviewing the criteria to access the retail crime prevention reviewing the criteria to access the retail crime prevention fund. reviewing the criteria to access the retail crime prevention fund. 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Why should small business own verse any should small business own verse any confidence should small business own verse any confidence in should small business own verse any confidence in the should small business own verse any confidence in the Government's confidence in the Government's response confidence in the Government's response to confidence in the Government's response to retail confidence in the Government's response to retail crime confidence in the Government's response to retail crime given confidence in the Government's response to retail crime given that response to retail crime given that only response to retail crime given that only 7 response to retail crime given that only 7 businesses response to retail crime given that only 7 businesses have response to retail crime given that only 7 businesses have had only 7 businesses have had installations only 7 businesses have had installations completed only 7 businesses have had installations completed under only 7 businesses have had installations completed under the installations completed under the Retail installations completed under the Retail Crime installations completed under the Retail Crime Prevention installations completed under the Retail Crime Prevention Programme Retail Crime Prevention Programme over Retail Crime Prevention Programme over the Retail Crime Prevention Programme over the last Retail Crime Prevention Programme over the last six Retail Crime Prevention Programme over the last six months. 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As I've indicated previously I would have indicated previously I would have liked indicated previously I would have liked to indicated previously I would have liked to have indicated previously I would have liked to have seen indicated previously I would have liked to have seen faster indicated previously I would have liked to have seen faster progress liked to have seen faster progress earlier liked to have seen faster progress earlier however liked to have seen faster progress earlier however the liked to have seen faster progress earlier however the retail liked to have seen faster progress earlier however the retail crime earlier however the retail crime prevention earlier however the retail crime prevention fund earlier however the retail crime prevention fund work earlier however the retail crime prevention fund work has earlier however the retail crime prevention fund work has now prevention fund work has now accelerated prevention fund work has now accelerated and prevention fund work has now accelerated and we prevention fund work has now accelerated and we are prevention fund work has now accelerated and we are seeing accelerated and we are seeing significant accelerated and we are seeing significant progress accelerated and we are seeing significant progress in accelerated and we are seeing significant progress in areas accelerated and we are seeing significant progress in areas like significant progress in areas like fog significant progress in areas like fog cannon significant progress in areas like fog cannon installations significant progress in areas like fog cannon installations and significant progress in areas like fog cannon installations and upgrade fog cannon installations and upgrade security fog cannon installations and upgrade security sirens, fog cannon installations and upgrade security sirens, alarms, fog cannon installations and upgrade security sirens, alarms, CCTV, security sirens, alarms, CCTV, lighting, security sirens, alarms, CCTV, lighting, counter security sirens, alarms, CCTV, lighting, counter screens, security sirens, alarms, CCTV, lighting, counter screens, mirrors, lighting, counter screens, mirrors, window lighting, counter screens, mirrors, window strengthen, lighting, counter screens, mirrors, window strengthen, bollards, lighting, counter screens, mirrors, window strengthen, bollards, planter window strengthen, bollards, planter to window strengthen, bollards, planter to boxes window strengthen, bollards, planter to boxes and window strengthen, bollards, planter to boxes and so window strengthen, bollards, planter to boxes and so on. window strengthen, bollards, planter to boxes and so on. 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I can say that I have personally met with Mr Kushal and personally met with Mr Kushal and his personally met with Mr Kushal and his group personally met with Mr Kushal and his group and personally met with Mr Kushal and his group and his personally met with Mr Kushal and his group and his follow personally met with Mr Kushal and his group and his follow up personally met with Mr Kushal and his group and his follow up action, his group and his follow up action, so his group and his follow up action, so have his group and his follow up action, so have the his group and his follow up action, so have the police. his group and his follow up action, so have the police. They his group and his follow up action, so have the police. They have his group and his follow up action, so have the police. They have had his group and his follow up action, so have the police. They have had at so have the police. They have had at least so have the police. They have had at least one so have the police. 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Question No.8. issues that have been raised. Question No.8. Debbie Question No.8. Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. Question Question No.8. Question No.8. Debbie Question No.8. Debbie Ngarewa-Packer. 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On behalf of the minister I would stress that there has been an would stress that there has been an extensive would stress that there has been an extensive period would stress that there has been an extensive period of would stress that there has been an extensive period of preparation would stress that there has been an extensive period of preparation of extensive period of preparation of these extensive period of preparation of these reforms, extensive period of preparation of these reforms, engagement extensive period of preparation of these reforms, engagement on extensive period of preparation of these reforms, engagement on a these reforms, engagement on a weekly these reforms, engagement on a weekly basis these reforms, engagement on a weekly basis between these reforms, engagement on a weekly basis between officials these reforms, engagement on a weekly basis between officials of weekly basis between officials of the weekly basis between officials of the Ministry weekly basis between officials of the Ministry for weekly basis between officials of the Ministry for the weekly basis between officials of the Ministry for the Environment weekly basis between officials of the Ministry for the Environment and the Ministry for the Environment and the the Ministry for the Environment and the ministers, the Ministry for the Environment and the ministers, the the Ministry for the Environment and the ministers, the Hon the Ministry for the Environment and the ministers, the Hon David the Ministry for the Environment and the ministers, the Hon David Parker the ministers, the Hon David Parker and the ministers, the Hon David Parker and the the ministers, the Hon David Parker and the Hon the ministers, the Hon David Parker and the Hon Kiritapu the ministers, the Hon David Parker and the Hon Kiritapu Allan the ministers, the Hon David Parker and the Hon Kiritapu Allan and the ministers, the Hon David Parker and the Hon Kiritapu Allan and we and the Hon Kiritapu Allan and we now and the Hon Kiritapu Allan and we now have and the Hon Kiritapu Allan and we now have a and the Hon Kiritapu Allan and we now have a full and the Hon Kiritapu Allan and we now have a full select and the Hon Kiritapu Allan and we now have a full select committee now have a full select committee process now have a full select committee process to now have a full select committee process to consider now have a full select committee process to consider all now have a full select committee process to consider all of now have a full select committee process to consider all of the process to consider all of the issues process to consider all of the issues contained process to consider all of the issues contained in process to consider all of the issues contained in these process to consider all of the issues contained in these two process to consider all of the issues contained in these two bills. issues contained in these two bills. Supplementary. issues contained in these two bills. Supplementary. How issues contained in these two bills. Supplementary. How many Supplementary. How many post-settlement Supplementary. How many post-settlement governance Supplementary. How many post-settlement governance entities post-settlement governance entities or post-settlement governance entities or iwi post-settlement governance entities or iwi organisations post-settlement governance entities or iwi organisations have post-settlement governance entities or iwi organisations have explicitly or iwi organisations have explicitly endorsed or iwi organisations have explicitly endorsed the or iwi organisations have explicitly endorsed the RMA or iwi organisations have explicitly endorsed the RMA reforms, or iwi organisations have explicitly endorsed the RMA reforms, if or iwi organisations have explicitly endorsed the RMA reforms, if any. or iwi organisations have explicitly endorsed the RMA reforms, if any. On endorsed the RMA reforms, if any. On behalf endorsed the RMA reforms, if any. On behalf of endorsed the RMA reforms, if any. On behalf of the endorsed the RMA reforms, if any. On behalf of the minister endorsed the RMA reforms, if any. On behalf of the minister I endorsed the RMA reforms, if any. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for the My question is to the Minister for the Digital My question is to the Minister for the Digital Economy My question is to the Minister for the Digital Economy and the Digital Economy and Communications: Communications: What Communications: What recent Communications: What recent announcements Communications: What recent announcements has Communications: What recent announcements has he What recent announcements has he made What recent announcements has he made about What recent announcements has he made about improving What recent announcements has he made about improving rural made about improving rural connectivity made about improving rural connectivity in made about improving rural connectivity in some made about improving rural connectivity in some of made about improving rural connectivity in some of New connectivity in some of New Zealand's connectivity in some of New Zealand's most connectivity in some of New Zealand's most remote connectivity in some of New Zealand's most remote locations? The The Hon The Hon Dr The Hon Dr David The Hon Dr David Clark. The Hon Dr David Clark. More The Hon Dr David Clark. More good The Hon Dr David Clark. More good news. The Hon Dr David Clark. More good news. I The Hon Dr David Clark. More good news. I recently The Hon Dr David Clark. More good news. I recently had The Hon Dr David Clark. More good news. I recently had the The Hon Dr David Clark. More good news. I recently had the pleasure The Hon Dr David Clark. More good news. I recently had the pleasure of news. I recently had the pleasure of that news. I recently had the pleasure of that the news. I recently had the pleasure of that the remote news. I recently had the pleasure of that the remote user news. I recently had the pleasure of that the remote user scheme news. I recently had the pleasure of that the remote user scheme has that the remote user scheme has started that the remote user scheme has started taking that the remote user scheme has started taking applications that the remote user scheme has started taking applications from started taking applications from eligible started taking applications from eligible households. started taking applications from eligible households. The started taking applications from eligible households. The scheme started taking applications from eligible households. The scheme will eligible households. The scheme will target eligible households. The scheme will target some eligible households. The scheme will target some of eligible households. The scheme will target some of New eligible households. The scheme will target some of New Zealand's eligible households. The scheme will target some of New Zealand's most target some of New Zealand's most remote target some of New Zealand's most remote communities target some of New Zealand's most remote communities and target some of New Zealand's most remote communities and connect target some of New Zealand's most remote communities and connect them remote communities and connect them with remote communities and connect them with broadband remote communities and connect them with broadband for remote communities and connect them with broadband for the remote communities and connect them with broadband for the first remote communities and connect them with broadband for the first time. with broadband for the first time. These with broadband for the first time. These are with broadband for the first time. These are places with broadband for the first time. These are places where with broadband for the first time. These are places where there with broadband for the first time. These are places where there is These are places where there is currently These are places where there is currently only These are places where there is currently only access These are places where there is currently only access to These are places where there is currently only access to voice currently only access to voice calling currently only access to voice calling and currently only access to voice calling and text currently only access to voice calling and text services. currently only access to voice calling and text services. Homes currently only access to voice calling and text services. Homes and calling and text services. Homes and communities calling and text services. Homes and communities where calling and text services. Homes and communities where the calling and text services. Homes and communities where the internet calling and text services. Homes and communities where the internet is communities where the internet is very communities where the internet is very slow communities where the internet is very slow and communities where the internet is very slow and its communities where the internet is very slow and its use communities where the internet is very slow and its use is communities where the internet is very slow and its use is limited very slow and its use is limited will very slow and its use is limited will also very slow and its use is limited will also be very slow and its use is limited will also be targeted. very slow and its use is limited will also be targeted. All very slow and its use is limited will also be targeted. All thanks very slow and its use is limited will also be targeted. All thanks to will also be targeted. All thanks to an will also be targeted. All thanks to an allocation will also be targeted. All thanks to an allocation of will also be targeted. All thanks to an allocation of $15 will also be targeted. All thanks to an allocation of $15 million will also be targeted. All thanks to an allocation of $15 million in an allocation of $15 million in budget an allocation of $15 million in budget 2022 an allocation of $15 million in budget 2022 and an allocation of $15 million in budget 2022 and was an allocation of $15 million in budget 2022 and was part an allocation of $15 million in budget 2022 and was part of an allocation of $15 million in budget 2022 and was part of a budget 2022 and was part of a broader budget 2022 and was part of a broader $60 budget 2022 and was part of a broader $60 million budget 2022 and was part of a broader $60 million fund budget 2022 and was part of a broader $60 million fund for budget 2022 and was part of a broader $60 million fund for rural broader $60 million fund for rural connectivity. broader $60 million fund for rural connectivity. Supplementary, broader $60 million fund for rural connectivity. Supplementary, how connectivity. Supplementary, how many connectivity. Supplementary, how many households connectivity. Supplementary, how many households will connectivity. Supplementary, how many households will this connectivity. Supplementary, how many households will this benefit? many households will this benefit? Crown many households will this benefit? Crown Infrastructure many households will this benefit? Crown Infrastructure Partners many households will this benefit? Crown Infrastructure Partners are Crown Infrastructure Partners are mailing Crown Infrastructure Partners are mailing forms Crown Infrastructure Partners are mailing forms with Crown Infrastructure Partners are mailing forms with return Crown Infrastructure Partners are mailing forms with return envelopes mailing forms with return envelopes to mailing forms with return envelopes to over mailing forms with return envelopes to over 3,000 mailing forms with return envelopes to over 3,000 households mailing forms with return envelopes to over 3,000 households with mailing forms with return envelopes to over 3,000 households with very to over 3,000 households with very poor to over 3,000 households with very poor or to over 3,000 households with very poor or no to over 3,000 households with very poor or no coverage. to over 3,000 households with very poor or no coverage. They to over 3,000 households with very poor or no coverage. They have to over 3,000 households with very poor or no coverage. They have also poor or no coverage. They have also engaged poor or no coverage. They have also engaged with poor or no coverage. They have also engaged with community poor or no coverage. They have also engaged with community groups poor or no coverage. They have also engaged with community groups who engaged with community groups who are engaged with community groups who are helping engaged with community groups who are helping spread engaged with community groups who are helping spread the engaged with community groups who are helping spread the word engaged with community groups who are helping spread the word and engaged with community groups who are helping spread the word and are are helping spread the word and are putting are helping spread the word and are putting posters are helping spread the word and are putting posters up are helping spread the word and are putting posters up in are helping spread the word and are putting posters up in library, putting posters up in library, supermarket, putting posters up in library, supermarket, Farmland putting posters up in library, supermarket, Farmland stores putting posters up in library, supermarket, Farmland stores and supermarket, Farmland stores and other supermarket, Farmland stores and other community supermarket, Farmland stores and other community hubs. supermarket, Farmland stores and other community hubs. Just supermarket, Farmland stores and other community hubs. Just because other community hubs. Just because you other community hubs. Just because you live other community hubs. Just because you live off other community hubs. Just because you live off the other community hubs. Just because you live off the grid other community hubs. Just because you live off the grid doesn't other community hubs. Just because you live off the grid doesn't mean you live off the grid doesn't mean you you live off the grid doesn't mean you can't you live off the grid doesn't mean you can't be you live off the grid doesn't mean you can't be connected. you live off the grid doesn't mean you can't be connected. It's you live off the grid doesn't mean you can't be connected. It's just you can't be connected. It's just sometimes you can't be connected. It's just sometimes that you can't be connected. It's just sometimes that it you can't be connected. It's just sometimes that it takes you can't be connected. It's just sometimes that it takes a you can't be connected. It's just sometimes that it takes a bit you can't be connected. It's just sometimes that it takes a bit of sometimes that it takes a bit of tailored sometimes that it takes a bit of tailored thinking. sometimes that it takes a bit of tailored thinking. Supplementary. tailored thinking. Supplementary. Why tailored thinking. Supplementary. Why is tailored thinking. Supplementary. Why is the tailored thinking. Supplementary. Why is the scheme tailored thinking. Supplementary. Why is the scheme important? tailored thinking. Supplementary. Why is the scheme important? As tailored thinking. Supplementary. Why is the scheme important? As the Why is the scheme important? As the global Why is the scheme important? As the global cost-of-living Why is the scheme important? As the global cost-of-living crisis Why is the scheme important? As the global cost-of-living crisis puts global cost-of-living crisis puts pressure global cost-of-living crisis puts pressure on global cost-of-living crisis puts pressure on New global cost-of-living crisis puts pressure on New Zealanders global cost-of-living crisis puts pressure on New Zealanders and global cost-of-living crisis puts pressure on New Zealanders and their pressure on New Zealanders and their families, pressure on New Zealanders and their families, a pressure on New Zealanders and their families, a reline pressure on New Zealanders and their families, a reline connection pressure on New Zealanders and their families, a reline connection will families, a reline connection will make families, a reline connection will make it families, a reline connection will make it easier families, a reline connection will make it easier for families, a reline connection will make it easier for remote families, a reline connection will make it easier for remote businesses make it easier for remote businesses to make it easier for remote businesses to operate, make it easier for remote businesses to operate, pay make it easier for remote businesses to operate, pay invoices make it easier for remote businesses to operate, pay invoices and make it easier for remote businesses to operate, pay invoices and to to operate, pay invoices and to network. to operate, pay invoices and to network. From to operate, pay invoices and to network. From a to operate, pay invoices and to network. From a social to operate, pay invoices and to network. From a social standpoint, network. From a social standpoint, this network. From a social standpoint, this scheme network. From a social standpoint, this scheme will network. From a social standpoint, this scheme will also network. From a social standpoint, this scheme will also help network. From a social standpoint, this scheme will also help connect this scheme will also help connect people this scheme will also help connect people to this scheme will also help connect people to online this scheme will also help connect people to online health this scheme will also help connect people to online health services this scheme will also help connect people to online health services and people to online health services and education people to online health services and education tools. people to online health services and education tools. Supplementary. people to online health services and education tools. Supplementary. What education tools. Supplementary. What reaction education tools. Supplementary. What reaction has education tools. Supplementary. What reaction has he education tools. Supplementary. What reaction has he seen education tools. Supplementary. What reaction has he seen following education tools. Supplementary. What reaction has he seen following the reaction has he seen following the announcement? reaction has he seen following the announcement? Federated reaction has he seen following the announcement? Federated farmers reaction has he seen following the announcement? Federated farmers is announcement? Federated farmers is urging announcement? Federated farmers is urging its announcement? Federated farmers is urging its members announcement? Federated farmers is urging its members to announcement? Federated farmers is urging its members to sign announcement? Federated farmers is urging its members to sign up announcement? Federated farmers is urging its members to sign up to announcement? Federated farmers is urging its members to sign up to the urging its members to sign up to the scheme. urging its members to sign up to the scheme. In urging its members to sign up to the scheme. In fact, urging its members to sign up to the scheme. In fact, Richard urging its members to sign up to the scheme. In fact, Richard McIntyre, scheme. In fact, Richard McIntyre, the scheme. In fact, Richard McIntyre, the Federated scheme. In fact, Richard McIntyre, the Federated Farmers the Federated Farmers telecommunications the Federated Farmers telecommunications spokesperson telecommunications spokesperson called telecommunications spokesperson called it telecommunications spokesperson called it "a telecommunications spokesperson called it "a great telecommunications spokesperson called it "a great initiative telecommunications spokesperson called it "a great initiative from called it "a great initiative from the called it "a great initiative from the Government" called it "a great initiative from the Government" and called it "a great initiative from the Government" and something called it "a great initiative from the Government" and something they the Government" and something they have the Government" and something they have been the Government" and something they have been advocating the Government" and something they have been advocating for. have been advocating for. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> This <INTERRUPTION> This Government <INTERRUPTION> This Government knows <INTERRUPTION> This Government knows the <INTERRUPTION> This Government knows the importance This Government knows the importance of This Government knows the importance of reliable This Government knows the importance of reliable connection This Government knows the importance of reliable connection in This Government knows the importance of reliable connection in rural This Government knows the importance of reliable connection in rural New of reliable connection in rural New Zealand. of reliable connection in rural New Zealand. We're of reliable connection in rural New Zealand. We're listening of reliable connection in rural New Zealand. We're listening to Zealand. We're listening to communities Zealand. We're listening to communities and Zealand. We're listening to communities and delivering communities and delivering solutions. communities and delivering solutions. Point communities and delivering solutions. Point of communities and delivering solutions. Point of order, communities and delivering solutions. Point of order, Melissa solutions. Point of order, Melissa Lee. solutions. Point of order, Melissa Lee. I solutions. Point of order, Melissa Lee. I seek solutions. Point of order, Melissa Lee. I seek leave solutions. Point of order, Melissa Lee. I seek leave to solutions. Point of order, Melissa Lee. I seek leave to table solutions. Point of order, Melissa Lee. I seek leave to table the Lee. I seek leave to table the Federated Lee. I seek leave to table the Federated Farmers Lee. I seek leave to table the Federated Farmers of Lee. I seek leave to table the Federated Farmers of New Lee. I seek leave to table the Federated Farmers of New Zealand Federated Farmers of New Zealand rural Federated Farmers of New Zealand rural connectivity Federated Farmers of New Zealand rural connectivity survey Federated Farmers of New Zealand rural connectivity survey of Federated Farmers of New Zealand rural connectivity survey of 2022 rural connectivity survey of 2022 outlining rural connectivity survey of 2022 outlining the rural connectivity survey of 2022 outlining the poor rural connectivity survey of 2022 outlining the poor state rural connectivity survey of 2022 outlining the poor state of rural connectivity survey of 2022 outlining the poor state of digital outlining the poor state of digital connectivity outlining the poor state of digital connectivity for outlining the poor state of digital connectivity for rural outlining the poor state of digital connectivity for rural New outlining the poor state of digital connectivity for rural New Zealand connectivity for rural New Zealand connectivity for rural New Zealand connectivity for rural New Zealand households and connectivity for rural New Zealand households and that connectivity for rural New Zealand households and that only connectivity for rural New Zealand households and that only 1% connectivity for rural New Zealand households and that only 1% of households and that only 1% of farmers households and that only 1% of farmers in households and that only 1% of farmers in New households and that only 1% of farmers in New Zealand households and that only 1% of farmers in New Zealand have households and that only 1% of farmers in New Zealand have access farmers in New Zealand have access to farmers in New Zealand have access to high-speed... farmers in New Zealand have access to high-speed... 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"The country is becoming lawless ... Running "The country is becoming lawless ... Running a "The country is becoming lawless ... Running a business "The country is becoming lawless ... Running a business in "The country is becoming lawless ... Running a business in this "The country is becoming lawless ... Running a business in this country Running a business in this country has Running a business in this country has become Running a business in this country has become very Running a business in this country has become very difficult"; has become very difficult"; if has become very difficult"; if not, has become very difficult"; if not, why? The The Hon The Hon Chris The Hon Chris Hipkins. The Hon Chris Hipkins. No, The Hon Chris Hipkins. No, as The Hon Chris Hipkins. No, as I The Hon Chris Hipkins. No, as I don't The Hon Chris Hipkins. No, as I don't believe The Hon Chris Hipkins. No, as I don't believe that The Hon Chris Hipkins. No, as I don't believe that inflammatory don't believe that inflammatory comments don't believe that inflammatory comments such don't believe that inflammatory comments such as don't believe that inflammatory comments such as that don't believe that inflammatory comments such as that are don't believe that inflammatory comments such as that are helpful don't believe that inflammatory comments such as that are helpful in comments such as that are helpful in these comments such as that are helpful in these circumstances. comments such as that are helpful in these circumstances. I comments such as that are helpful in these circumstances. I also comments such as that are helpful in these circumstances. I also note these circumstances. I also note that these circumstances. I also note that some these circumstances. I also note that some of these circumstances. I also note that some of the these circumstances. I also note that some of the proposals these circumstances. I also note that some of the proposals put that some of the proposals put forward that some of the proposals put forward by that some of the proposals put forward by the that some of the proposals put forward by the group, that some of the proposals put forward by the group, including forward by the group, including allowing forward by the group, including allowing business forward by the group, including allowing business owners forward by the group, including allowing business owners to forward by the group, including allowing business owners to take allowing business owners to take matters allowing business owners to take matters into allowing business owners to take matters into their allowing business owners to take matters into their own allowing business owners to take matters into their own hands allowing business owners to take matters into their own hands could matters into their own hands could risk matters into their own hands could risk further matters into their own hands could risk further escalation matters into their own hands could risk further escalation and matters into their own hands could risk further escalation and put matters into their own hands could risk further escalation and put more risk further escalation and put more people risk further escalation and put more people at risk further escalation and put more people at risk. risk further escalation and put more people at risk. While risk further escalation and put more people at risk. While I risk further escalation and put more people at risk. While I have people at risk. While I have sympathy people at risk. While I have sympathy for people at risk. While I have sympathy for every people at risk. While I have sympathy for every victim people at risk. While I have sympathy for every victim of sympathy for every victim of offending, sympathy for every victim of offending, I sympathy for every victim of offending, I think sympathy for every victim of offending, I think it sympathy for every victim of offending, I think it is sympathy for every victim of offending, I think it is important offending, I think it is important that offending, I think it is important that police offending, I think it is important that police are offending, I think it is important that police are allowed offending, I think it is important that police are allowed to offending, I think it is important that police are allowed to do offending, I think it is important that police are allowed to do their that police are allowed to do their jobs. that police are allowed to do their jobs. Why that police are allowed to do their jobs. Why would that police are allowed to do their jobs. Why would the that police are allowed to do their jobs. Why would the minister jobs. Why would the minister characterise jobs. Why would the minister characterise a jobs. Why would the minister characterise a comment jobs. Why would the minister characterise a comment like jobs. Why would the minister characterise a comment like that jobs. Why would the minister characterise a comment like that as characterise a comment like that as being characterise a comment like that as being inflammatory characterise a comment like that as being inflammatory or characterise a comment like that as being inflammatory or the characterise a comment like that as being inflammatory or the a characterise a comment like that as being inflammatory or the a group being inflammatory or the a group that being inflammatory or the a group that have being inflammatory or the a group that have suffered being inflammatory or the a group that have suffered over being inflammatory or the a group that have suffered over 430 being inflammatory or the a group that have suffered over 430 ram that have suffered over 430 ram raids that have suffered over 430 ram raids this that have suffered over 430 ram raids this year that have suffered over 430 ram raids this year and that have suffered over 430 ram raids this year and have that have suffered over 430 ram raids this year and have seen that have suffered over 430 ram raids this year and have seen a raids this year and have seen a friend raids this year and have seen a friend and raids this year and have seen a friend and a raids this year and have seen a friend and a member raids this year and have seen a friend and a member of raids this year and have seen a friend and a member of that raids this year and have seen a friend and a member of that group friend and a member of that group killed friend and a member of that group killed last friend and a member of that group killed last night friend and a member of that group killed last night in friend and a member of that group killed last night in a friend and a member of that group killed last night in a fatal killed last night in a fatal stabbing killed last night in a fatal stabbing and killed last night in a fatal stabbing and does killed last night in a fatal stabbing and does he killed last night in a fatal stabbing and does he not killed last night in a fatal stabbing and does he not actually stabbing and does he not actually understand stabbing and does he not actually understand and stabbing and does he not actually understand and realise stabbing and does he not actually understand and realise that stabbing and does he not actually understand and realise that there stabbing and does he not actually understand and realise that there is understand and realise that there is a understand and realise that there is a very understand and realise that there is a very strong understand and realise that there is a very strong feeling understand and realise that there is a very strong feeling out understand and realise that there is a very strong feeling out there a very strong feeling out there amongst a very strong feeling out there amongst retailers a very strong feeling out there amongst retailers and a very strong feeling out there amongst retailers and their amongst retailers and their employers amongst retailers and their employers that amongst retailers and their employers that they amongst retailers and their employers that they do amongst retailers and their employers that they do not amongst retailers and their employers that they do not feel employers that they do not feel safe? employers that they do not feel safe? I employers that they do not feel safe? I absolutely employers that they do not feel safe? I absolutely acknowledge employers that they do not feel safe? I absolutely acknowledge that safe? I absolutely acknowledge that there safe? I absolutely acknowledge that there is safe? I absolutely acknowledge that there is concern safe? I absolutely acknowledge that there is concern amongst safe? I absolutely acknowledge that there is concern amongst the safe? I absolutely acknowledge that there is concern amongst the small there is concern amongst the small business there is concern amongst the small business community there is concern amongst the small business community and there is concern amongst the small business community and the there is concern amongst the small business community and the retail business community and the retail business business community and the retail business community business community and the retail business community in business community and the retail business community in particular business community in particular around business community in particular around the business community in particular around the recent business community in particular around the recent pattern business community in particular around the recent pattern of around the recent pattern of offending around the recent pattern of offending that around the recent pattern of offending that we around the recent pattern of offending that we have around the recent pattern of offending that we have seen. around the recent pattern of offending that we have seen. I around the recent pattern of offending that we have seen. I do offending that we have seen. I do want offending that we have seen. I do want to offending that we have seen. I do want to provide offending that we have seen. I do want to provide reassurance offending that we have seen. I do want to provide reassurance that offending that we have seen. I do want to provide reassurance that the want to provide reassurance that the police want to provide reassurance that the police are want to provide reassurance that the police are working want to provide reassurance that the police are working very want to provide reassurance that the police are working very hard want to provide reassurance that the police are working very hard to want to provide reassurance that the police are working very hard to make police are working very hard to make sure police are working very hard to make sure that police are working very hard to make sure that every police are working very hard to make sure that every one police are working very hard to make sure that every one of police are working very hard to make sure that every one of those sure that every one of those offences sure that every one of those offences is sure that every one of those offences is fully sure that every one of those offences is fully investigated sure that every one of those offences is fully investigated and offences is fully investigated and those offences is fully investigated and those who offences is fully investigated and those who do offences is fully investigated and those who do them offences is fully investigated and those who do them are offences is fully investigated and those who do them are held offences is fully investigated and those who do them are held to those who do them are held to account those who do them are held to account for those who do them are held to account for their those who do them are held to account for their offending. those who do them are held to account for their offending. Did those who do them are held to account for their offending. Did the account for their offending. Did the minister account for their offending. Did the minister sign account for their offending. Did the minister sign off account for their offending. Did the minister sign off and account for their offending. Did the minister sign off and approve account for their offending. Did the minister sign off and approve the minister sign off and approve the criteria minister sign off and approve the criteria that minister sign off and approve the criteria that allows minister sign off and approve the criteria that allows business minister sign off and approve the criteria that allows business owners criteria that allows business owners to criteria that allows business owners to have criteria that allows business owners to have access criteria that allows business owners to have access to criteria that allows business owners to have access to the criteria that allows business owners to have access to the retail criteria that allows business owners to have access to the retail crime to have access to the retail crime fund? to have access to the retail crime fund? The to have access to the retail crime fund? The criteria to have access to the retail crime fund? The criteria for to have access to the retail crime fund? The criteria for that to have access to the retail crime fund? The criteria for that was fund? The criteria for that was approved fund? The criteria for that was approved before fund? The criteria for that was approved before I fund? The criteria for that was approved before I became fund? The criteria for that was approved before I became the approved before I became the minister. approved before I became the minister. What approved before I became the minister. What is approved before I became the minister. What is the approved before I became the minister. What is the criteria? minister. What is the criteria? There minister. What is the criteria? There are minister. What is the criteria? There are a minister. What is the criteria? There are a range minister. What is the criteria? There are a range of minister. What is the criteria? There are a range of criteria, minister. What is the criteria? 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So the minister stands in the House and minister stands in the House and can't minister stands in the House and can't tell minister stands in the House and can't tell us minister stands in the House and can't tell us definitively minister stands in the House and can't tell us definitively what minister stands in the House and can't tell us definitively what the can't tell us definitively what the criteria can't tell us definitively what the criteria is can't tell us definitively what the criteria is for can't tell us definitively what the criteria is for a can't tell us definitively what the criteria is for a fund can't tell us definitively what the criteria is for a fund that can't tell us definitively what the criteria is for a fund that he can't tell us definitively what the criteria is for a fund that he has criteria is for a fund that he has been criteria is for a fund that he has been over criteria is for a fund that he has been over seeing criteria is for a fund that he has been over seeing for criteria is for a fund that he has been over seeing for the criteria is for a fund that he has been over seeing for the past criteria is for a fund that he has been over seeing for the past six been over seeing for the past six months been over seeing for the past six months and been over seeing for the past six months and the been over seeing for the past six months and the business been over seeing for the past six months and the business in months and the business in Sandringham months and the business in Sandringham had months and the business in Sandringham had applied months and the business in Sandringham had applied for, Sandringham had applied for, including Sandringham had applied for, including the Sandringham had applied for, including the request Sandringham had applied for, including the request for Sandringham had applied for, including the request for a Sandringham had applied for, including the request for a fog including the request for a fog cannon including the request for a fog cannon that including the request for a fog cannon that actually including the request for a fog cannon that actually would including the request for a fog cannon that actually would have including the request for a fog cannon that actually would have gone cannon that actually would have gone a cannon that actually would have gone a long cannon that actually would have gone a long way cannon that actually would have gone a long way towards cannon that actually would have gone a long way towards preventing cannon that actually would have gone a long way towards preventing the a long way towards preventing the tragedy a long way towards preventing the tragedy that a long way towards preventing the tragedy that we a long way towards preventing the tragedy that we saw a long way towards preventing the tragedy that we saw unfold a long way towards preventing the tragedy that we saw unfold in tragedy that we saw unfold in Sandringham tragedy that we saw unfold in Sandringham last tragedy that we saw unfold in Sandringham last night? tragedy that we saw unfold in Sandringham last night? As tragedy that we saw unfold in Sandringham last night? As I Sandringham last night? As I indicated Sandringham last night? As I indicated in Sandringham last night? As I indicated in my Sandringham last night? As I indicated in my answer Sandringham last night? As I indicated in my answer to Sandringham last night? As I indicated in my answer to another indicated in my answer to another member's indicated in my answer to another member's question indicated in my answer to another member's question earlier, indicated in my answer to another member's question earlier, on indicated in my answer to another member's question earlier, on the member's question earlier, on the information member's question earlier, on the information that member's question earlier, on the information that I member's question earlier, on the information that I have, member's question earlier, on the information that I have, the information that I have, the business information that I have, the business should information that I have, the business should have information that I have, the business should have been information that I have, the business should have been eligible business should have been eligible to business should have been eligible to receive business should have been eligible to receive a business should have been eligible to receive a fog business should have been eligible to receive a fog cannon business should have been eligible to receive a fog cannon from business should have been eligible to receive a fog cannon from as to receive a fog cannon from as early to receive a fog cannon from as early as to receive a fog cannon from as early as 2017 to receive a fog cannon from as early as 2017 when to receive a fog cannon from as early as 2017 when funding to receive a fog cannon from as early as 2017 when funding was to receive a fog cannon from as early as 2017 when funding was made early as 2017 when funding was made available early as 2017 when funding was made available by early as 2017 when funding was made available by Government early as 2017 when funding was made available by Government for early as 2017 when funding was made available by Government for the available by Government for the installation available by Government for the installation of available by Government for the installation of fog available by Government for the installation of fog cannons available by Government for the installation of fog cannons at available by Government for the installation of fog cannons at that installation of fog cannons at that time installation of fog cannons at that time and installation of fog cannons at that time and therefore installation of fog cannons at that time and therefore I installation of fog cannons at that time and therefore I do installation of fog cannons at that time and therefore I do not installation of fog cannons at that time and therefore I do not yet installation of fog cannons at that time and therefore I do not yet have time and therefore I do not yet have an time and therefore I do not yet have an explanation time and therefore I do not yet have an explanation as time and therefore I do not yet have an explanation as to time and therefore I do not yet have an explanation as to why time and therefore I do not yet have an explanation as to why they time and therefore I do not yet have an explanation as to why they have an explanation as to why they have not an explanation as to why they have not received an explanation as to why they have not received one. an explanation as to why they have not received one. Melissa an explanation as to why they have not received one. Melissa Lee. an explanation as to why they have not received one. Melissa Lee. Will not received one. Melissa Lee. Will the not received one. Melissa Lee. Will the minister not received one. Melissa Lee. Will the minister personally not received one. Melissa Lee. Will the minister personally join not received one. Melissa Lee. Will the minister personally join me not received one. Melissa Lee. Will the minister personally join me on the minister personally join me on Saturday the minister personally join me on Saturday to the minister personally join me on Saturday to visit the minister personally join me on Saturday to visit businesses Saturday to visit businesses affected Saturday to visit businesses affected by Saturday to visit businesses affected by ram Saturday to visit businesses affected by ram raids Saturday to visit businesses affected by ram raids and Saturday to visit businesses affected by ram raids and violent affected by ram raids and violent crime affected by ram raids and violent crime in affected by ram raids and violent crime in Mt affected by ram raids and violent crime in Mt Albert affected by ram raids and violent crime in Mt Albert and affected by ram raids and violent crime in Mt Albert and Sandringham? crime in Mt Albert and Sandringham? I crime in Mt Albert and Sandringham? I have crime in Mt Albert and Sandringham? I have visited crime in Mt Albert and Sandringham? I have visited businesses crime in Mt Albert and Sandringham? I have visited businesses that crime in Mt Albert and Sandringham? I have visited businesses that have I have visited businesses that have been I have visited businesses that have been the I have visited businesses that have been the victims I have visited businesses that have been the victims of I have visited businesses that have been the victims of ram I have visited businesses that have been the victims of ram raiding. I have visited businesses that have been the victims of ram raiding. I been the victims of ram raiding. I am been the victims of ram raiding. I am not been the victims of ram raiding. I am not in been the victims of ram raiding. I am not in a been the victims of ram raiding. I am not in a position been the victims of ram raiding. I am not in a position toe been the victims of ram raiding. I am not in a position toe do been the victims of ram raiding. I am not in a position toe do so been the victims of ram raiding. I am not in a position toe do so this am not in a position toe do so this coming am not in a position toe do so this coming weekend am not in a position toe do so this coming weekend and am not in a position toe do so this coming weekend and I am not in a position toe do so this coming weekend and I also am not in a position toe do so this coming weekend and I also think am not in a position toe do so this coming weekend and I also think it coming weekend and I also think it is coming weekend and I also think it is important coming weekend and I also think it is important for coming weekend and I also think it is important for all coming weekend and I also think it is important for all Members coming weekend and I also think it is important for all Members of is important for all Members of Parliament is important for all Members of Parliament where is important for all Members of Parliament where there is important for all Members of Parliament where there is is important for all Members of Parliament where there is an is important for all Members of Parliament where there is an active Parliament where there is an active investigation Parliament where there is an active investigation under Parliament where there is an active investigation under way Parliament where there is an active investigation under way to Parliament where there is an active investigation under way to allow investigation under way to allow police investigation under way to allow police the investigation under way to allow police the space investigation under way to allow police the space to investigation under way to allow police the space to do investigation under way to allow police the space to do their investigation under way to allow police the space to do their jobs. police the space to do their jobs. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Question <INTERRUPTION> Question No.11. <INTERRUPTION> Question No.11. Dr <INTERRUPTION> Question No.11. Dr Anae <INTERRUPTION> Question No.11. Dr Anae Neru Question No.11. Dr Anae Neru Leavasa. Leavasa. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Research, My question is to the Minister of Research, Science My question is to the Minister of Research, Science and My question is to the Minister of Research, Science and Innovation: Research, Science and Innovation: How Research, Science and Innovation: How is Research, Science and Innovation: How is the Research, Science and Innovation: How is the Government Research, Science and Innovation: How is the Government supporting Research, Science and Innovation: How is the Government supporting a How is the Government supporting a future-focused How is the Government supporting a future-focused research How is the Government supporting a future-focused research system? The The Hon The Hon Dr The Hon Dr Ayesha The Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall. The Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall. As The Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall. As part The Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall. As part of The Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall. As part of the The Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall. As part of the Government's The Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall. As part of the Government's work The Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall. As part of the Government's work to The Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall. As part of the Government's work to build The Hon Dr Ayesha Verrall. As part of the Government's work to build a of the Government's work to build a future-focussed of the Government's work to build a future-focussed research of the Government's work to build a future-focussed research system of the Government's work to build a future-focussed research system we future-focussed research system we are future-focussed research system we are making future-focussed research system we are making research future-focussed research system we are making research more future-focussed research system we are making research more accessible are making research more accessible for are making research more accessible for everyone are making research more accessible for everyone with are making research more accessible for everyone with the are making research more accessible for everyone with the new are making research more accessible for everyone with the new open for everyone with the new open research for everyone with the new open research policy. for everyone with the new open research policy. The for everyone with the new open research policy. The policy for everyone with the new open research policy. The policy requires research policy. The policy requires all research policy. The policy requires all publications research policy. The policy requires all publications from research policy. The policy requires all publications from new research policy. The policy requires all publications from new research all publications from new research projects all publications from new research projects funded all publications from new research projects funded by all publications from new research projects funded by the all publications from new research projects funded by the Ministry all publications from new research projects funded by the Ministry of projects funded by the Ministry of Business, projects funded by the Ministry of Business, Innovation projects funded by the Ministry of Business, Innovation and projects funded by the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment Business, Innovation and Employment to Business, Innovation and Employment to be Business, Innovation and Employment to be made Business, Innovation and Employment to be made free Business, Innovation and Employment to be made free to Business, Innovation and Employment to be made free to access Business, Innovation and Employment to be made free to access online Business, Innovation and Employment to be made free to access online for to be made free to access online for everyone. to be made free to access online for everyone. 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This in turn increases the innovation potential of research. This in turn increases the innovation potential of our research. This in turn increases the innovation potential of our research innovation potential of our research and innovation potential of our research and maximises innovation potential of our research and maximises the innovation potential of our research and maximises the return innovation potential of our research and maximises the return on innovation potential of our research and maximises the return on public and maximises the return on public investments and maximises the return on public investments and and maximises the return on public investments and science. investments and science. Supplementary. investments and science. Supplementary. Who investments and science. Supplementary. Who will investments and science. Supplementary. Who will benefit investments and science. Supplementary. Who will benefit from Supplementary. 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Open research is about making publicly-funded about making publicly-funded research about making publicly-funded research available about making publicly-funded research available to about making publicly-funded research available to everyone about making publicly-funded research available to everyone that research available to everyone that could research available to everyone that could benefit research available to everyone that could benefit from research available to everyone that could benefit from it, research available to everyone that could benefit from it, from research available to everyone that could benefit from it, from our could benefit from it, from our innovators could benefit from it, from our innovators and could benefit from it, from our innovators and entrepreneurs could benefit from it, from our innovators and entrepreneurs to innovators and entrepreneurs to students innovators and entrepreneurs to students and innovators and entrepreneurs to students and research innovators and entrepreneurs to students and research collaborators students and research collaborators there students and research collaborators there are students and research collaborators there are many students and research collaborators there are many people students and research collaborators there are many people who students and research collaborators there are many people who will there are many people who will benefit there are many people who will benefit from there are many people who will benefit from accessing there are many people who will benefit from accessing the there are many people who will benefit from accessing the outcomes benefit from accessing the outcomes of benefit from accessing the outcomes of research benefit from accessing the outcomes of research efforts. benefit from accessing the outcomes of research efforts. 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In addition to open research, this week MBIE has research, this week MBIE has launched research, this week MBIE has launched the research, this week MBIE has launched the option research, this week MBIE has launched the option to research, this week MBIE has launched the option to use research, this week MBIE has launched the option to use a research, this week MBIE has launched the option to use a new launched the option to use a new nursative launched the option to use a new nursative CV launched the option to use a new nursative CV template launched the option to use a new nursative CV template for launched the option to use a new nursative CV template for funding nursative CV template for funding applications. nursative CV template for funding applications. The nursative CV template for funding applications. The alternative applications. The alternative approach applications. The alternative approach reflects applications. The alternative approach reflects the applications. The alternative approach reflects the increasing approach reflects the increasing diverse approach reflects the increasing diverse range approach reflects the increasing diverse range of approach reflects the increasing diverse range of contributions approach reflects the increasing diverse range of contributions that diverse range of contributions that researchers diverse range of contributions that researchers bring diverse range of contributions that researchers bring to diverse range of contributions that researchers bring to their diverse range of contributions that researchers bring to their work diverse range of contributions that researchers bring to their work and researchers bring to their work and provides researchers bring to their work and provides a researchers bring to their work and provides a more researchers bring to their work and provides a more rounded researchers bring to their work and provides a more rounded picture researchers bring to their work and provides a more rounded picture of provides a more rounded picture of an provides a more rounded picture of an individual provides a more rounded picture of an individual scientist's provides a more rounded picture of an individual scientist's career, an individual scientist's career, their an individual scientist's career, their achievements an individual scientist's career, their achievements and an individual scientist's career, their achievements and overall their achievements and overall contributions their achievements and overall contributions to their achievements and overall contributions to research their achievements and overall contributions to research and contributions to research and enables contributions to research and enables a contributions to research and enables a broader contributions to research and enables a broader definition contributions to research and enables a broader definition of contributions to research and enables a broader definition of an enables a broader definition of an academic enables a broader definition of an academic for enables a broader definition of an academic for Maori enables a broader definition of an academic for Maori and enables a broader definition of an academic for Maori and Pacific academic for Maori and Pacific peoples. academic for Maori and Pacific peoples. Scientists academic for Maori and Pacific peoples. Scientists applying academic for Maori and Pacific peoples. Scientists applying for peoples. Scientists applying for grants peoples. Scientists applying for grants will peoples. Scientists applying for grants will be peoples. Scientists applying for grants will be judged peoples. Scientists applying for grants will be judged on peoples. Scientists applying for grants will be judged on a peoples. Scientists applying for grants will be judged on a more grants will be judged on a more meaningful grants will be judged on a more meaningful assessment grants will be judged on a more meaningful assessment of grants will be judged on a more meaningful assessment of their meaningful assessment of their skills meaningful assessment of their skills and meaningful assessment of their skills and experience meaningful assessment of their skills and experience and, meaningful assessment of their skills and experience and, of skills and experience and, of course, skills and experience and, of course, the skills and experience and, of course, the strength skills and experience and, of course, the strength of skills and experience and, of course, the strength of their skills and experience and, of course, the strength of their ideas. course, the strength of their ideas. Question course, the strength of their ideas. Question No.12, course, the strength of their ideas. Question No.12, Simon course, the strength of their ideas. Question No.12, Simon Watts. Question Question No.12, Question No.12, Simon Question No.12, Simon Watts. 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We'll through scale and aggregation separating balance sheets. We'll do separating balance sheets. We'll do that separating balance sheets. We'll do that through separating balance sheets. We'll do that through ensuring separating balance sheets. We'll do that through ensuring good that through ensuring good governance. that through ensuring good governance. We that through ensuring good governance. We will that through ensuring good governance. We will do that through ensuring good governance. We will do that that through ensuring good governance. We will do that through governance. We will do that through ensuring governance. We will do that through ensuring that governance. We will do that through ensuring that the governance. We will do that through ensuring that the Crown's governance. We will do that through ensuring that the Crown's treaty ensuring that the Crown's treaty obligation ensuring that the Crown's treaty obligation is ensuring that the Crown's treaty obligation is built ensuring that the Crown's treaty obligation is built into ensuring that the Crown's treaty obligation is built into the ensuring that the Crown's treaty obligation is built into the reform obligation is built into the reform process. obligation is built into the reform process. We obligation is built into the reform process. We will obligation is built into the reform process. We will do obligation is built into the reform process. We will do that obligation is built into the reform process. We will do that by obligation is built into the reform process. We will do that by ensuring process. We will do that by ensuring that process. We will do that by ensuring that there process. We will do that by ensuring that there is process. We will do that by ensuring that there is no process. 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Why can mana whenua submit Te Mana o te Wai statement on submit Te Mana o te Wai statement on a submit Te Mana o te Wai statement on a river submit Te Mana o te Wai statement on a river that submit Te Mana o te Wai statement on a river that runs submit Te Mana o te Wai statement on a river that runs through submit Te Mana o te Wai statement on a river that runs through their submit Te Mana o te Wai statement on a river that runs through their land a river that runs through their land but a river that runs through their land but a a river that runs through their land but a farmer a river that runs through their land but a farmer who a river that runs through their land but a farmer who isn't a river that runs through their land but a farmer who isn't mana a river that runs through their land but a farmer who isn't mana whenua but a farmer who isn't mana whenua cannot but a farmer who isn't mana whenua cannot submit but a farmer who isn't mana whenua cannot submit one but a farmer who isn't mana whenua cannot submit one for but a farmer who isn't mana whenua cannot submit one for a but a farmer who isn't mana whenua cannot submit one for a river but a farmer who isn't mana whenua cannot submit one for a river that cannot submit one for a river that runs cannot submit one for a river that runs through cannot submit one for a river that runs through theirs? cannot submit one for a river that runs through theirs? 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In fact it is for the combined In fact it is for the combined benefits In fact it is for the combined benefits of In fact it is for the combined benefits of communities, In fact it is for the combined benefits of communities, the benefits of communities, the environment benefits of communities, the environment and benefits of communities, the environment and the benefits of communities, the environment and the way benefits of communities, the environment and the way that benefits of communities, the environment and the way that we environment and the way that we think environment and the way that we think about environment and the way that we think about the environment and the way that we think about the intergenerational think about the intergenerational challenge think about the intergenerational challenge of think about the intergenerational challenge of looking think about the intergenerational challenge of looking after think about the intergenerational challenge of looking after our think about the intergenerational challenge of looking after our most challenge of looking after our most fresh challenge of looking after our most fresh use challenge of looking after our most fresh use resource challenge of looking after our most fresh use resource - challenge of looking after our most fresh use resource - water. challenge of looking after our most fresh use resource - water. 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Communities expertise in water quality submit these statements? Communities have these statements? Communities have different these statements? Communities have different ways these statements? Communities have different ways of these statements? Communities have different ways of being these statements? Communities have different ways of being able these statements? 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To the minister's knowledge have any To the minister's knowledge have any of To the minister's knowledge have any of the To the minister's knowledge have any of the groups To the minister's knowledge have any of the groups mentioned To the minister's knowledge have any of the groups mentioned in To the minister's knowledge have any of the groups mentioned in the of the groups mentioned in the primary of the groups mentioned in the primary question of the groups mentioned in the primary question other of the groups mentioned in the primary question other than of the groups mentioned in the primary question other than iwi of the groups mentioned in the primary question other than iwi ever primary question other than iwi ever had primary question other than iwi ever had cause primary question other than iwi ever had cause for primary question other than iwi ever had cause for a primary question other than iwi ever had cause for a treaty primary question other than iwi ever had cause for a treaty settlement had cause for a treaty settlement bill had cause for a treaty settlement bill as had cause for a treaty settlement bill as mentioned had cause for a treaty settlement bill as mentioned in had cause for a treaty settlement bill as mentioned in clause had cause for a treaty settlement bill as mentioned in clause 141B had cause for a treaty settlement bill as mentioned in clause 141B as bill as mentioned in clause 141B as a bill as mentioned in clause 141B as a condition bill as mentioned in clause 141B as a condition for bill as mentioned in clause 141B as a condition for submitting bill as mentioned in clause 141B as a condition for submitting a bill as mentioned in clause 141B as a condition for submitting a Te bill as mentioned in clause 141B as a condition for submitting a Te Mana a condition for submitting a Te Mana o a condition for submitting a Te Mana o te a condition for submitting a Te Mana o te Wai a condition for submitting a Te Mana o te Wai statement? a condition for submitting a Te Mana o te Wai statement? 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Te Mana o te Wai statements are specifically o te Wai statements are specifically for o te Wai statements are specifically for the o te Wai statements are specifically for the purposes o te Wai statements are specifically for the purposes of o te Wai statements are specifically for the purposes of iwi o te Wai statements are specifically for the purposes of iwi mana o te Wai statements are specifically for the purposes of iwi mana whenua for the purposes of iwi mana whenua groups for the purposes of iwi mana whenua groups to for the purposes of iwi mana whenua groups to reflect for the purposes of iwi mana whenua groups to reflect their for the purposes of iwi mana whenua groups to reflect their aspirations groups to reflect their aspirations as groups to reflect their aspirations as it groups to reflect their aspirations as it relates groups to reflect their aspirations as it relates to groups to reflect their aspirations as it relates to a groups to reflect their aspirations as it relates to a catchment. groups to reflect their aspirations as it relates to a catchment. 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