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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the King we acknowledge the King and we acknowledge the King and pray we acknowledge the King and pray for we acknowledge the King and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. Hon Hon Chris Hon Chris Hipkins. Hon Chris Hipkins. Legislation Hon Chris Hipkins. Legislation for Hon Chris Hipkins. Legislation for next Hon Chris Hipkins. Legislation for next will Hon Chris Hipkins. Legislation for next will I Hon Chris Hipkins. Legislation for next will I err Hon Chris Hipkins. Legislation for next will I err include Hon Chris Hipkins. Legislation for next will I err include the Hon Chris Hipkins. Legislation for next will I err include the first next will I err include the first reading next will I err include the first reading of next will I err include the first reading of the next will I err include the first reading of the Human next will I err include the first reading of the Human Rights next will I err include the first reading of the Human Rights Bill, reading of the Human Rights Bill, the... reading of the Human Rights Bill, the... The reading of the Human Rights Bill, the... The therapeutic reading of the Human Rights Bill, the... 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Water Services Legislation of Religious Belief) Amendment Bill. Water Services Legislation Bill. Mr Mr Parent Mr Parent Leave Mr Parent Leave and Mr Parent Leave and Employment Mr Parent Leave and Employment Protection Mr Parent Leave and Employment Protection Bill Mr Parent Leave and Employment Protection Bill introduction. Mr Parent Leave and Employment Protection Bill introduction. The Protection Bill introduction. The House Protection Bill introduction. The House comes Protection Bill introduction. The House comes to Protection Bill introduction. The House comes to Oral Protection Bill introduction. The House comes to Oral Questions. House comes to Oral Questions. Question House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. 1 House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. 1 in House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. 1 in the House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. 1 in the name House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. 1 in the name of House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. 1 in the name of Chris Question No. 1 in the name of Chris Baillie. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Education: My question is to the Minister of Education: Has My question is to the Minister of Education: Has he My question is to the Minister of Education: Has he received My question is to the Minister of Education: Has he received any Education: Has he received any reports Education: Has he received any reports on Education: Has he received any reports on future Education: Has he received any reports on future options Education: Has he received any reports on future options for reports on future options for Maori-medium reports on future options for Maori-medium and reports on future options for Maori-medium and kaupapa reports on future options for Maori-medium and kaupapa Maori Maori-medium and kaupapa Maori education Maori-medium and kaupapa Maori education in Maori-medium and kaupapa Maori education in the Maori-medium and kaupapa Maori education in the past Maori-medium and kaupapa Maori education in the past six Maori-medium and kaupapa Maori education in the past six months? Is Is The Is The Hon Is The Hon Chris Is The Hon Chris Hipkins. Is The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Is The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, Is The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, yes. Is The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, yes. Supplementary. Is The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, yes. Supplementary. Does Speaker, yes. Supplementary. Does the Speaker, yes. Supplementary. Does the minister Speaker, yes. Supplementary. Does the minister agree Speaker, yes. Supplementary. Does the minister agree with Speaker, yes. Supplementary. Does the minister agree with his the minister agree with his officials the minister agree with his officials who, the minister agree with his officials who, in the minister agree with his officials who, in an the minister agree with his officials who, in an August the minister agree with his officials who, in an August briefing officials who, in an August briefing to officials who, in an August briefing to him, officials who, in an August briefing to him, argued officials who, in an August briefing to him, argued that officials who, in an August briefing to him, argued that the officials who, in an August briefing to him, argued that the Government to him, argued that the Government should to him, argued that the Government should "progress to him, argued that the Government should "progress towards to him, argued that the Government should "progress towards package should "progress towards package four", should "progress towards package four", which should "progress towards package four", which means should "progress towards package four", which means the should "progress towards package four", which means the Government four", which means the Government would four", which means the Government would "establish four", which means the Government would "establish an four", which means the Government would "establish an independent would "establish an independent statutory would "establish an independent statutory entity would "establish an independent statutory entity to would "establish an independent statutory entity to lead would "establish an independent statutory entity to lead and would "establish an independent statutory entity to lead and steward statutory entity to lead and steward the statutory entity to lead and steward the Maori statutory entity to lead and steward the Maori Medium statutory entity to lead and steward the Maori Medium Education statutory entity to lead and steward the Maori Medium Education and the Maori Medium Education and Kaupapa the Maori Medium Education and Kaupapa Maori the Maori Medium Education and Kaupapa Maori education the Maori Medium Education and Kaupapa Maori education system? Kaupapa Maori education system? Mr Kaupapa Maori education system? Mr Speaker, Kaupapa Maori education system? Mr Speaker, the Kaupapa Maori education system? Mr Speaker, the minister, Kaupapa Maori education system? 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The minister and I based on that advice. The minister and I have based on that advice. The minister and I have both based on that advice. The minister and I have both previously based on that advice. The minister and I have both previously said based on that advice. The minister and I have both previously said we and I have both previously said we do and I have both previously said we do not and I have both previously said we do not support and I have both previously said we do not support the and I have both previously said we do not support the establishment and I have both previously said we do not support the establishment of do not support the establishment of an do not support the establishment of an independent do not support the establishment of an independent Maori do not support the establishment of an independent Maori education an independent Maori education authority. authority. Supplementary. authority. Supplementary. Has authority. Supplementary. Has the authority. Supplementary. Has the minister Supplementary. Has the minister requested Supplementary. Has the minister requested further Supplementary. Has the minister requested further policy Supplementary. Has the minister requested further policy work Supplementary. Has the minister requested further policy work on requested further policy work on developing requested further policy work on developing package requested further policy work on developing package 4, requested further policy work on developing package 4, such requested further policy work on developing package 4, such as developing package 4, such as preparing developing package 4, such as preparing a developing package 4, such as preparing a paper developing package 4, such as preparing a paper baseed developing package 4, such as preparing a paper baseed on developing package 4, such as preparing a paper baseed on package preparing a paper baseed on package four preparing a paper baseed on package four to preparing a paper baseed on package four to take preparing a paper baseed on package four to take to preparing a paper baseed on package four to take to Cabinet? preparing a paper baseed on package four to take to Cabinet? 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As I indicated in my previous answer, the my previous answer, the establishment my previous answer, the establishment of my previous answer, the establishment of a my previous answer, the establishment of a Maori my previous answer, the establishment of a Maori education establishment of a Maori education authority establishment of a Maori education authority is establishment of a Maori education authority is not establishment of a Maori education authority is not part establishment of a Maori education authority is not part of establishment of a Maori education authority is not part of that. establishment of a Maori education authority is not part of that. This authority is not part of that. This In authority is not part of that. This In In authority is not part of that. This In In light authority is not part of that. This In In light of authority is not part of that. This In In light of that, authority is not part of that. This In In light of that, will authority is not part of that. This In In light of that, will the In In light of that, will the minister In In light of that, will the minister rule In In light of that, will the minister rule out In In light of that, will the minister rule out the In In light of that, will the minister rule out the current minister rule out the current government minister rule out the current government developing minister rule out the current government developing a minister rule out the current government developing a separate government developing a separate statutory government developing a separate statutory entity government developing a separate statutory entity to government developing a separate statutory entity to manage government developing a separate statutory entity to manage Maori statutory entity to manage Maori medium statutory entity to manage Maori medium education statutory entity to manage Maori medium education and statutory entity to manage Maori medium education and Kaupapa statutory entity to manage Maori medium education and Kaupapa Maori medium education and Kaupapa Maori education medium education and Kaupapa Maori education alongside medium education and Kaupapa Maori education alongside the medium education and Kaupapa Maori education alongside the Ministry medium education and Kaupapa Maori education alongside the Ministry of education alongside the Ministry of Education? Education? Mr Education? Mr Speaker, Education? Mr Speaker, that Education? Mr Speaker, that was Education? Mr Speaker, that was a Education? Mr Speaker, that was a waste Education? Mr Speaker, that was a waste of Education? Mr Speaker, that was a waste of a Mr Speaker, that was a waste of a question Mr Speaker, that was a waste of a question given Mr Speaker, that was a waste of a question given I Mr Speaker, that was a waste of a question given I have Mr Speaker, that was a waste of a question given I have said Mr Speaker, that was a waste of a question given I have said that question given I have said that twice question given I have said that twice now. question given I have said that twice now. <INTERRUPTION> twice now. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary? twice now. <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary? Supplementary. Supplementary? Supplementary. Why Supplementary? Supplementary. Why has Supplementary? Supplementary. Why has the Supplementary? Supplementary. Why has the minister Supplementary? Supplementary. Why has the minister ruled Supplementary? Supplementary. Why has the minister ruled out Supplementary? Supplementary. Why has the minister ruled out the Why has the minister ruled out the establishment Why has the minister ruled out the establishment of Why has the minister ruled out the establishment of a Why has the minister ruled out the establishment of a Maori Why has the minister ruled out the establishment of a Maori education establishment of a Maori education authority? authority? Because authority? Because there authority? Because there are authority? Because there are better authority? Because there are better ways authority? Because there are better ways of Because there are better ways of achieving Because there are better ways of achieving the Because there are better ways of achieving the Government's achieving the Government's objectives. objectives. Supplementary. objectives. Supplementary. What objectives. 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Chris Baillie. In light of that answer, if as soon as we do. Chris Baillie. In light of that answer, if the light of that answer, if the Government light of that answer, if the Government wants light of that answer, if the Government wants to light of that answer, if the Government wants to give light of that answer, if the Government wants to give Maori light of that answer, if the Government wants to give Maori a Government wants to give Maori a greater Government wants to give Maori a greater say Government wants to give Maori a greater say over Government wants to give Maori a greater say over education Government wants to give Maori a greater say over education of Government wants to give Maori a greater say over education of Maori greater say over education of Maori students, greater say over education of Maori students, why greater say over education of Maori students, why doesn't greater say over education of Maori students, why doesn't he greater say over education of Maori students, why doesn't he use greater say over education of Maori students, why doesn't he use an students, why doesn't he use an established students, why doesn't he use an established success students, why doesn't he use an established success idea students, why doesn't he use an established success idea that students, why doesn't he use an established success idea that was established success idea that was supported established success idea that was supported by established success idea that was supported by the established success idea that was supported by the iwi established success idea that was supported by the iwi chairs established success idea that was supported by the iwi chairs forum, supported by the iwi chairs forum, Partnership supported by the iwi chairs forum, Partnership Schools, supported by the iwi chairs forum, Partnership Schools, also supported by the iwi chairs forum, Partnership Schools, also known supported by the iwi chairs forum, Partnership Schools, also known as Partnership Schools, also known as Chartered Partnership Schools, also known as Chartered Schools? Partnership Schools, also known as Chartered Schools? Mr Partnership Schools, also known as Chartered Schools? Mr Speaker, Partnership Schools, also known as Chartered Schools? Mr Speaker, there Chartered Schools? Mr Speaker, there is Chartered Schools? Mr Speaker, there is a Chartered Schools? Mr Speaker, there is a huge Chartered Schools? Mr Speaker, there is a huge assertion Chartered Schools? Mr Speaker, there is a huge assertion there. Chartered Schools? Mr Speaker, there is a huge assertion there. We Chartered Schools? Mr Speaker, there is a huge assertion there. We don't is a huge assertion there. We don't believe is a huge assertion there. We don't believe that is a huge assertion there. We don't believe that Maori is a huge assertion there. We don't believe that Maori should is a huge assertion there. We don't believe that Maori should have is a huge assertion there. We don't believe that Maori should have to believe that Maori should have to adopt believe that Maori should have to adopt a believe that Maori should have to adopt a privatised believe that Maori should have to adopt a privatised model believe that Maori should have to adopt a privatised model of adopt a privatised model of education adopt a privatised model of education to adopt a privatised model of education to have adopt a privatised model of education to have a adopt a privatised model of education to have a greater adopt a privatised model of education to have a greater say adopt a privatised model of education to have a greater say over education to have a greater say over the education to have a greater say over the future education to have a greater say over the future of education to have a greater say over the future of Maori education to have a greater say over the future of Maori students. the future of Maori students. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Point <INTERRUPTION> Point of <INTERRUPTION> Point of order. <INTERRUPTION> Point of order. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Children: My question is to the Minister for Children: What My question is to the Minister for Children: What recent My question is to the Minister for Children: What recent announcements Children: What recent announcements has Children: What recent announcements has the Children: What recent announcements has the Government Children: What recent announcements has the Government made Children: What recent announcements has the Government made about has the Government made about stopping has the Government made about stopping children has the Government made about stopping children re-offending? The The Hon The Hon kelvin The Hon kelvin Davis. The Hon kelvin Davis. Mr The Hon kelvin Davis. Mr Speaker, The Hon kelvin Davis. Mr Speaker, earlier The Hon kelvin Davis. Mr Speaker, earlier Minister The Hon kelvin Davis. 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Mr Speaker, earlier Minister Hipkins and Se loni earlier Minister Hipkins and Se loni joined earlier Minister Hipkins and Se loni joined in earlier Minister Hipkins and Se loni joined in eto earlier Minister Hipkins and Se loni joined in eto announce earlier Minister Hipkins and Se loni joined in eto announce a earlier Minister Hipkins and Se loni joined in eto announce a circuit joined in eto announce a circuit breaker joined in eto announce a circuit breaker response joined in eto announce a circuit breaker response quickly joined in eto announce a circuit breaker response quickly to joined in eto announce a circuit breaker response quickly to address breaker response quickly to address the breaker response quickly to address the repeat breaker response quickly to address the repeat offending breaker response quickly to address the repeat offending of breaker response quickly to address the repeat offending of a breaker response quickly to address the repeat offending of a small the repeat offending of a small group the repeat offending of a small group of the repeat offending of a small group of children the repeat offending of a small group of children and the repeat offending of a small group of children and young the repeat offending of a small group of children and young people, group of children and young people, while group of children and young people, while the group of children and young people, while the justice group of children and young people, while the justice system group of children and young people, while the justice system can group of children and young people, while the justice system can act group of children and young people, while the justice system can act as while the justice system can act as a while the justice system can act as a circuit while the justice system can act as a circuit breaker while the justice system can act as a circuit breaker for while the justice system can act as a circuit breaker for young while the justice system can act as a circuit breaker for young people a circuit breaker for young people aged a circuit breaker for young people aged 14-17, a circuit breaker for young people aged 14-17, there a circuit breaker for young people aged 14-17, there is a circuit breaker for young people aged 14-17, there is a a circuit breaker for young people aged 14-17, there is a small a circuit breaker for young people aged 14-17, there is a small number aged 14-17, there is a small number of aged 14-17, there is a small number of children aged 14-17, there is a small number of children 10-13 aged 14-17, there is a small number of children 10-13 who aged 14-17, there is a small number of children 10-13 who continue aged 14-17, there is a small number of children 10-13 who continue to of children 10-13 who continue to reoffend of children 10-13 who continue to reoffend at of children 10-13 who continue to reoffend at a of children 10-13 who continue to reoffend at a high of children 10-13 who continue to reoffend at a high rate. of children 10-13 who continue to reoffend at a high rate. Why of children 10-13 who continue to reoffend at a high rate. Why are reoffend at a high rate. Why are these reoffend at a high rate. Why are these changes reoffend at a high rate. Why are these changes necessary? these changes necessary? Mr these changes necessary? Mr Speaker, these changes necessary? Mr Speaker, at these changes necessary? Mr Speaker, at the these changes necessary? Mr Speaker, at the moment these changes necessary? 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Mr Speaker, since the launch of our Warmer Kiwi since the launch of our Warmer Kiwi Homes since the launch of our Warmer Kiwi Homes programme, since the launch of our Warmer Kiwi Homes programme, the since the launch of our Warmer Kiwi Homes programme, the Government Homes programme, the Government delivered Homes programme, the Government delivered over Homes programme, the Government delivered over 100,000 Homes programme, the Government delivered over 100,000 installation delivered over 100,000 installation and delivered over 100,000 installation and efficient delivered over 100,000 installation and efficient heater delivered over 100,000 installation and efficient heater installations and efficient heater installations in and efficient heater installations in homes. and efficient heater installations in homes. 100,000 and efficient heater installations in homes. 100,000 retro and efficient heater installations in homes. 100,000 retro fits and efficient heater installations in homes. 100,000 retro fits in and efficient heater installations in homes. 100,000 retro fits in four in homes. 100,000 retro fits in four years, in homes. 100,000 retro fits in four years, showing in homes. 100,000 retro fits in four years, showing there in homes. 100,000 retro fits in four years, showing there was in homes. 100,000 retro fits in four years, showing there was real in homes. 100,000 retro fits in four years, showing there was real need years, showing there was real need in years, showing there was real need in the years, showing there was real need in the community. years, showing there was real need in the community. 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For heat pumps specifically, of wellbeing and energy benefits. For heat pumps specifically, the For heat pumps specifically, the evaluation For heat pumps specifically, the evaluation found For heat pumps specifically, the evaluation found a For heat pumps specifically, the evaluation found a return For heat pumps specifically, the evaluation found a return that For heat pumps specifically, the evaluation found a return that is evaluation found a return that is even evaluation found a return that is even higher, evaluation found a return that is even higher, at evaluation found a return that is even higher, at $7.49. even higher, at $7.49. Supplementary. even higher, at $7.49. Supplementary. Are even higher, at $7.49. Supplementary. Are these even higher, at $7.49. Supplementary. Are these grants Supplementary. Are these grants still Supplementary. Are these grants still available Supplementary. Are these grants still available and Supplementary. Are these grants still available and how Supplementary. Are these grants still available and how can Supplementary. Are these grants still available and how can people still available and how can people access still available and how can people access them? still available and how can people access them? Mr still available and how can people access them? Mr Mr still available and how can people access them? Mr Mr Speaker still available and how can people access them? Mr Mr Speaker there still available and how can people access them? Mr Mr Speaker there is access them? Mr Mr Speaker there is plenty access them? Mr Mr Speaker there is plenty of access them? Mr Mr Speaker there is plenty of funding access them? Mr Mr Speaker there is plenty of funding available access them? 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Those those households in greatest need where there is the greatest need where there is the most greatest need where there is the most significant greatest need where there is the most significant benefits greatest need where there is the most significant benefits to greatest need where there is the most significant benefits to be most significant benefits to be realised, most significant benefits to be realised, I most significant benefits to be realised, I encourage most significant benefits to be realised, I encourage people most significant benefits to be realised, I encourage people to realised, I encourage people to apply. realised, I encourage people to apply. Suppresent realised, I encourage people to apply. Suppresent try. realised, I encourage people to apply. Suppresent try. How realised, I encourage people to apply. Suppresent try. How many apply. Suppresent try. How many Canterbury apply. Suppresent try. How many Canterbury homes apply. Suppresent try. How many Canterbury homes have apply. Suppresent try. How many Canterbury homes have been apply. Suppresent try. How many Canterbury homes have been upgraded Canterbury homes have been upgraded through Canterbury homes have been upgraded through the Canterbury homes have been upgraded through the Warmer Canterbury homes have been upgraded through the Warmer Kiwi Canterbury homes have been upgraded through the Warmer Kiwi Homes through the Warmer Kiwi Homes programme? programme? Mr programme? Mr Speaker, programme? Mr Speaker, over programme? Mr Speaker, over 9,400 programme? Mr Speaker, over 9,400 homes programme? Mr Speaker, over 9,400 homes across Mr Speaker, over 9,400 homes across the Mr Speaker, over 9,400 homes across the Canterbury Mr Speaker, over 9,400 homes across the Canterbury region Mr Speaker, over 9,400 homes across the Canterbury region are Mr Speaker, over 9,400 homes across the Canterbury region are warmer, the Canterbury region are warmer, drier the Canterbury region are warmer, drier and the Canterbury region are warmer, drier and more the Canterbury region are warmer, drier and more efficient the Canterbury region are warmer, drier and more efficient as the Canterbury region are warmer, drier and more efficient as a the Canterbury region are warmer, drier and more efficient as a result drier and more efficient as a result of drier and more efficient as a result of this drier and more efficient as a result of this Government drier and more efficient as a result of this Government programme. of this Government programme. Canterbury of this Government programme. Canterbury - of this Government programme. Canterbury - there's of this Government programme. Canterbury - there's been of this Government programme. Canterbury - there's been over of this Government programme. Canterbury - there's been over 7,000 Canterbury - there's been over 7,000 instewation Canterbury - there's been over 7,000 instewation retrofits Canterbury - there's been over 7,000 instewation retrofits and Canterbury - there's been over 7,000 instewation retrofits and over Canterbury - there's been over 7,000 instewation retrofits and over 2,300 instewation retrofits and over 2,300 heating instewation retrofits and over 2,300 heating upgrades. heating upgrades. Supplementary. heating upgrades. Supplementary. How heating upgrades. Supplementary. How many Supplementary. How many installations Supplementary. How many installations have Supplementary. How many installations have there Supplementary. How many installations have there been Supplementary. How many installations have there been in installations have there been in Waikato? installations have there been in Waikato? Mr installations have there been in Waikato? Mr Speaker, installations have there been in Waikato? Mr Speaker, nearly installations have there been in Waikato? Mr Speaker, nearly 14,000 Waikato? Mr Speaker, nearly 14,000 Waikato Waikato? Mr Speaker, nearly 14,000 Waikato households Waikato? Mr Speaker, nearly 14,000 Waikato households have Waikato? Mr Speaker, nearly 14,000 Waikato households have benefited Waikato households have benefited from Waikato households have benefited from this Waikato households have benefited from this programme Waikato households have benefited from this programme since Waikato households have benefited from this programme since 2018. from this programme since 2018. There's from this programme since 2018. There's over from this programme since 2018. There's over 9,600 from this programme since 2018. 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Tangi Utikere. How many Tangi Utikere. How many installations Tangi Utikere. How many installations have Tangi Utikere. How many installations have there Tangi Utikere. How many installations have there been Tangi Utikere. How many installations have there been in installations have there been in Manawa installations have there been in Manawa Tupongawiri? installations have there been in Manawa Tupongawiri? Over installations have there been in Manawa Tupongawiri? Over 9,600 Manawa Tupongawiri? Over 9,600 households Manawa Tupongawiri? Over 9,600 households over Manawa Tupongawiri? Over 9,600 households over those Manawa Tupongawiri? Over 9,600 households over those areas Manawa Tupongawiri? 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Tamati 2,500 homes receiving pumps. Tamati Coffey. 2,500 homes receiving pumps. Tamati Coffey. How 2,500 homes receiving pumps. Tamati Coffey. How many 2,500 homes receiving pumps. Tamati Coffey. How many households 2,500 homes receiving pumps. Tamati Coffey. How many households in 2,500 homes receiving pumps. Tamati Coffey. How many households in the Coffey. How many households in the Bay Coffey. How many households in the Bay of Coffey. How many households in the Bay of Plenty Coffey. How many households in the Bay of Plenty have Coffey. How many households in the Bay of Plenty have access Coffey. How many households in the Bay of Plenty have access to Coffey. How many households in the Bay of Plenty have access to the Bay of Plenty have access to the programme? programme? Order! programme? Order! Silence programme? Order! Silence please. programme? Order! Silence please. I programme? Order! Silence please. I want programme? Order! Silence please. I want the Order! Silence please. 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Mr Speaker, over 10,700 homes in the Bay of Plenty 10,700 homes in the Bay of Plenty have 10,700 homes in the Bay of Plenty have been 10,700 homes in the Bay of Plenty have been upgraded 10,700 homes in the Bay of Plenty have been upgraded since 10,700 homes in the Bay of Plenty have been upgraded since 2018 10,700 homes in the Bay of Plenty have been upgraded since 2018 with have been upgraded since 2018 with over have been upgraded since 2018 with over 7,000 have been upgraded since 2018 with over 7,000 insulation have been upgraded since 2018 with over 7,000 insulation retro have been upgraded since 2018 with over 7,000 insulation retro fits have been upgraded since 2018 with over 7,000 insulation retro fits and over 7,000 insulation retro fits and over over 7,000 insulation retro fits and over 3,600 over 7,000 insulation retro fits and over 3,600 heating over 7,000 insulation retro fits and over 3,600 heating upgrades. over 3,600 heating upgrades. Question over 3,600 heating upgrades. Question No. over 3,600 heating upgrades. Question No. 5, over 3,600 heating upgrades. Question No. 5, Chris over 3,600 heating upgrades. Question No. 5, Chris Bishop. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Justice: My question is to the Minister of Justice: What My question is to the Minister of Justice: What does My question is to the Minister of Justice: What does the My question is to the Minister of Justice: What does the Ministry My question is to the Minister of Justice: What does the Ministry of Justice: What does the Ministry of Justice Justice: What does the Ministry of Justice advice Justice: What does the Ministry of Justice advice dated Justice: What does the Ministry of Justice advice dated 11 Justice: What does the Ministry of Justice advice dated 11 April Justice: What does the Ministry of Justice advice dated 11 April 2022 Justice advice dated 11 April 2022 on Justice advice dated 11 April 2022 on entrenching Justice advice dated 11 April 2022 on entrenching sections Justice advice dated 11 April 2022 on entrenching sections of Justice advice dated 11 April 2022 on entrenching sections of the Justice advice dated 11 April 2022 on entrenching sections of the Water on entrenching sections of the Water Services on entrenching sections of the Water Services Entities on entrenching sections of the Water Services Entities Bill on entrenching sections of the Water Services Entities Bill that on entrenching sections of the Water Services Entities Bill that she Services Entities Bill that she received Services Entities Bill that she received on Services Entities Bill that she received on 28 Services Entities Bill that she received on 28 November Services Entities Bill that she received on 28 November 2022 Services Entities Bill that she received on 28 November 2022 say, received on 28 November 2022 say, and received on 28 November 2022 say, and did received on 28 November 2022 say, and did she received on 28 November 2022 say, and did she seek received on 28 November 2022 say, and did she seek any received on 28 November 2022 say, and did she seek any advice received on 28 November 2022 say, and did she seek any advice on and did she seek any advice on entrenchment and did she seek any advice on entrenchment in and did she seek any advice on entrenchment in that and did she seek any advice on entrenchment in that bill and did she seek any advice on entrenchment in that bill earlier? The The Hon The Hon Kiritapu The Hon Kiritapu Allan. The Hon Kiritapu Allan. Mr The Hon Kiritapu Allan. Mr Mr The Hon Kiritapu Allan. Mr Mr Speaker, The Hon Kiritapu Allan. Mr Mr Speaker, I'm The Hon Kiritapu Allan. Mr Mr Speaker, I'm advised The Hon Kiritapu Allan. Mr Mr Speaker, I'm advised the The Hon Kiritapu Allan. Mr Mr Speaker, I'm advised the Ministry The Hon Kiritapu Allan. 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On 28 November, I sought key points from the Ministry of Justice points from the Ministry of Justice on points from the Ministry of Justice on the points from the Ministry of Justice on the entrenchment points from the Ministry of Justice on the entrenchment issue points from the Ministry of Justice on the entrenchment issue prior points from the Ministry of Justice on the entrenchment issue prior to on the entrenchment issue prior to Cabinet, on the entrenchment issue prior to Cabinet, which on the entrenchment issue prior to Cabinet, which were on the entrenchment issue prior to Cabinet, which were rereceived Cabinet, which were rereceived alongside Cabinet, which were rereceived alongside with Cabinet, which were rereceived alongside with a Cabinet, which were rereceived alongside with a copy Cabinet, which were rereceived alongside with a copy of Cabinet, which were rereceived alongside with a copy of the Cabinet, which were rereceived alongside with a copy of the 12 alongside with a copy of the 12 April alongside with a copy of the 12 April 2022 alongside with a copy of the 12 April 2022 advice alongside with a copy of the 12 April 2022 advice from alongside with a copy of the 12 April 2022 advice from the alongside with a copy of the 12 April 2022 advice from the ministry. April 2022 advice from the ministry. On April 2022 advice from the ministry. On entrenchment, April 2022 advice from the ministry. On entrenchment, the April 2022 advice from the ministry. On entrenchment, the Ministry April 2022 advice from the ministry. 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Has she expressed concern to the Has she expressed concern to the Minister Has she expressed concern to the Minister of Has she expressed concern to the Minister of Local Has she expressed concern to the Minister of Local Government Has she expressed concern to the Minister of Local Government about Minister of Local Government about her Minister of Local Government about her failure Minister of Local Government about her failure to Minister of Local Government about her failure to consult Minister of Local Government about her failure to consult her Minister of Local Government about her failure to consult her about Minister of Local Government about her failure to consult her about the her failure to consult her about the enentrenchment her failure to consult her about the enentrenchment provision her failure to consult her about the enentrenchment provision in her failure to consult her about the enentrenchment provision in SOP her failure to consult her about the enentrenchment provision in SOP 2815 enentrenchment provision in SOP 2815 given enentrenchment provision in SOP 2815 given the enentrenchment provision in SOP 2815 given the Cabinet enentrenchment provision in SOP 2815 given the Cabinet manual enentrenchment provision in SOP 2815 given the Cabinet manual requirement given the Cabinet manual requirement to given the Cabinet manual requirement to consult given the Cabinet manual requirement to consult her given the Cabinet manual requirement to consult her as given the Cabinet manual requirement to consult her as Minister given the Cabinet manual requirement to consult her as Minister of to consult her as Minister of Justice to consult her as Minister of Justice on to consult her as Minister of Justice on all to consult her as Minister of Justice on all proposals to consult her as Minister of Justice on all proposals affecting Justice on all proposals affecting constitutional Justice on all proposals affecting constitutional arrangements? constitutional arrangements? 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We fixed that mistake and this morning fixed that mistake and this morning earlier fixed that mistake and this morning earlier today, fixed that mistake and this morning earlier today, that fixed that mistake and this morning earlier today, that bill fixed that mistake and this morning earlier today, that bill went earlier today, that bill went through earlier today, that bill went through without earlier today, that bill went through without the earlier today, that bill went through without the entrenchment through without the entrenchment provision. through without the entrenchment provision. <INTERRUPTION> provision. <INTERRUPTION> 1 provision. <INTERRUPTION> 1 On provision. <INTERRUPTION> 1 On what provision. <INTERRUPTION> 1 On what date provision. <INTERRUPTION> 1 On what date and provision. <INTERRUPTION> 1 On what date and at provision. <INTERRUPTION> 1 On what date and at what provision. <INTERRUPTION> 1 On what date and at what time provision. <INTERRUPTION> 1 On what date and at what time did 1 On what date and at what time did she 1 On what date and at what time did she first 1 On what date and at what time did she first learn 1 On what date and at what time did she first learn about 1 On what date and at what time did she first learn about the 1 On what date and at what time did she first learn about the Minister she first learn about the Minister for she first learn about the Minister for Local she first learn about the Minister for Local Government's she first learn about the Minister for Local Government's comments she first learn about the Minister for Local Government's comments in for Local Government's comments in support for Local Government's comments in support of for Local Government's comments in support of entrenchment for Local Government's comments in support of entrenchment in for Local Government's comments in support of entrenchment in the support of entrenchment in the committee support of entrenchment in the committee stage support of entrenchment in the committee stage of support of entrenchment in the committee stage of the support of entrenchment in the committee stage of the Water committee stage of the Water Services committee stage of the Water Services Entities committee stage of the Water Services Entities Bill committee stage of the Water Services Entities Bill and committee stage of the Water Services Entities Bill and what committee stage of the Water Services Entities Bill and what did Services Entities Bill and what did she Services Entities Bill and what did she do Services Entities Bill and what did she do when Services Entities Bill and what did she do when she Services Entities Bill and what did she do when she learned Services Entities Bill and what did she do when she learned of Services Entities Bill and what did she do when she learned of them? she do when she learned of them? 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The Government has focused strongly on maintaining the focused strongly on maintaining the roading focused strongly on maintaining the roading network, focused strongly on maintaining the roading network, increasing roading network, increasing investment roading network, increasing investment and roading network, increasing investment and maintenance roading network, increasing investment and maintenance by roading network, increasing investment and maintenance by nearly investment and maintenance by nearly 50% investment and maintenance by nearly 50% after investment and maintenance by nearly 50% after it investment and maintenance by nearly 50% after it was investment and maintenance by nearly 50% after it was frozen investment and maintenance by nearly 50% after it was frozen beby investment and maintenance by nearly 50% after it was frozen beby the 50% after it was frozen beby the previous 50% after it was frozen beby the previous government. 50% after it was frozen beby the previous government. 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Does he then agree that the reduction in fuel tax and rose user reduction in fuel tax and rose user charges, reduction in fuel tax and rose user charges, quote reduction in fuel tax and rose user charges, quote unquote reduction in fuel tax and rose user charges, quote unquote "robbed" reduction in fuel tax and rose user charges, quote unquote "robbed" the charges, quote unquote "robbed" the National charges, quote unquote "robbed" the National Transport charges, quote unquote "robbed" the National Transport Fund charges, quote unquote "robbed" the National Transport Fund to charges, quote unquote "robbed" the National Transport Fund to a charges, quote unquote "robbed" the National Transport Fund to a much National Transport Fund to a much greater National Transport Fund to a much greater extent National Transport Fund to a much greater extent as National Transport Fund to a much greater extent as that National Transport Fund to a much greater extent as that costs National Transport Fund to a much greater extent as that costs ten greater extent as that costs ten times greater extent as that costs ten times more greater extent as that costs ten times more than greater extent as that costs ten times more than half-price greater extent as that costs ten times more than half-price public times more than half-price public transport? times more than half-price public transport? 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Yes, fares have a role different needs in public transport. Yes, fares have a role to different needs in public transport. Yes, fares have a role to play. Yes, fares have a role to play. That's Yes, fares have a role to play. That's why Yes, fares have a role to play. That's why we Yes, fares have a role to play. That's why we are Yes, fares have a role to play. That's why we are moving Yes, fares have a role to play. 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I don't know 7,800 farms utilise this technology as of 2017. I don't know the 7,800 farms utilise this technology as of 2017. I don't know the exact as of 2017. I don't know the exact number as of 2017. I don't know the exact number of as of 2017. I don't know the exact number of farms as of 2017. I don't know the exact number of farms using as of 2017. 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