WE ARE HAVING A LITTLE ARGUMENT HERE BUT WHO IS GOING TO SAMOA. DAD IS ARGUING WITH THE KIDS. IT WAS A DISCUSSION. I SAID I SHOULD GO, AND THEY SAID DON'T BE A DICK. YOU GO. LESS THAN FOUR HOURS FROM AUCKLAND, SAMOA IS RENOWNED FOR ITS NATURAL BEAUTY, GENUINE HOSPITALITY AND STUNNING ADVENTURES. THIS WEEK, WE'VE PARTNERED WITH SAMOA TOURISM TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE SPECIAL MEMORIES TO LAST A LIFETIME. SO TO EXPLORE THE ISLAND PARADISE, SO TO EXPLORE THE ISLAND PARADISE, OUR VERY LUCKY FRIEND MATT GIBB IS THERE. MORENA, MATT. HE IS INVITING YOU. HE HAS CAUGHT A FISH. HERE IS ONE I PREPARED EARLIER. I WAS GOING TO BRING YOU ONE OF THE FISH I CAUGHT. THE BEAGLES WOULD LIKE THAT. I THOUGHT YOU WOULD BE IMPRESSED WITH MY CATS. LOOK AT THE BOUNTY. INCREDIBLE. I WILL SHOW YOU SOME OF THE LOCAL PRODUCE AND HAVE A CHAT TO MICHELLE SHORTLY. I WANT TO TALK TO YOU BUT WE I AM. THIS IS THE LARGEST ISLAND IN SAMOA. WE ARE ON THE WESTERN TIP. IT IS AN ABSOLUTELY STUNNING ISLAND. YESTERDAY I WAS SO LUCKY TO BE TREATED TO THE BEST TOUR. THE GUIDE WAS AN ABSOLUTE LEGEND. TAKE A LOOK. ALL RIGHTY. TIME TO JUMP ON THIS FERRY AND HEAD OVER TO THE LARGEST ISLAND OF SAMOA, SAVAI'I. HELLO. TALOFA, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD, THANK YOU. WELCOME TO SAVAI'I. LOOK AT THIS PLACE. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. OH, IT'S JUST PARADISE, BRO. YEAH. YEAH. SHALL WE TAKE A TOUR? LOVE TO. THIS ISLAND HAS A SAYING THAT YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO SAMOA IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO SAVAII' WE ARE HERE AT THE BLUE HALL, THE STRONGEST ONE IN THE PACIFIC. ON A ROUGH DAY, IT'S ESTIMATED 250, 300M ABOVE THE ROCKS. IT CAN REALLY BLOW COCONUT UP. SO WE'RE NOT JUMPING IN OURSELVES TODAY. I'M NOT GOING TO THROW YOU IN. OH, THAT'S A GOOD ONE. THAT'S DECENT. I LIKE THAT. WELCOME TO THE MARKET. OPEN SIX DAYS A WEEK. IT IS ALL HANDMADE HERE. THINKING A LAVA LAVA WOULD BE A NICE THING TO TAKE HOME. WHAT'S MY COLOUR, DO YOU RECKON? YOU SHOULD GO FOR THE BLUE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WHEN YOU SAID YOU HAD A GOOD PLACE FOR A SWIM, I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GOING TO BE THIS BEAUTIFUL. LOOK AT THAT. WELCOME. THIS IS THE PLACE TO BE. OH MY GOSH. HOW WARM IS THE WATER, DO YOU RECKON? ABOUT 19 DEGREES. HOP ON. NOT TODAY, MATE. YEAH! I LOVE SAMOA. NOT A FAN OF THAT? ARE WE TALKING NOW? BE ON TO WIN. HERE IS MATT. HELLO. THAT LOOKS SO LOVELY. WE ARE SAD BACK HERE IN THE STUDIO THAT YOU ARE THERE AND WE ARE NOT. WE'RE NOT TAKING IT WELL. WE ARE HAVING A GIANT WIND. * WHINGE IF YOU COULD STAY FULLY CLOTHED FOR YOU REPORTS FROM NOW ON... THIS IS JUST TO HELP THE VIEWING PUBLIC GET A SENSE OF WHAT KIND OF TRIP THEY MIGHT BE GETTING. THIS IS MY MATE. YOU MAY NOT BE MY FRIENDS, BUT THIS GUY DEFINITELY IS. ANYONE YOU WANT TO SAY HI TO? TALOFA, FAMILY. IF YOU HAVE TIME, PLEASE COME AND VISIT BEAUTIFUL SAMOA. IT IS WAITING FOR YOU. AMAZING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOU HAVE UNTIL THURSDAY AT 4 PM TO GET IN THE DRAW. MORE COMING UP IN ABOUT AN HOURS TIME. STOP BEING SO JEALOUS. JUST GET OVER IT. THANK YOU. AND HE HAS MADE US THREE MINUTES LATER THE 8 O'CLOCK NEWS. THE ALL WHITES HAVE ABANDONED THEIR FRIENDLY AGAINST QATAR THIS MORNING AFTER ALLEGATIONS ONE OF THEIR PLAYERS WAS RACIALLY ABUSED. THE INCIDENT OCCURRED AFTER A FREE KICK WAS AWARDED TO QATAR IN THE FIRST HALF. THE NEW ZEALAND PLAYERS REACTING STRONGLY TO THE COMMENTS. DIDN'T LOOK TO BE MUCH IN THAT. (PLAYERS CLAMOUR ANGRILY) DIDN'T LOOK TO BE MUCH DIFFERENT BETWEEN THAT AND THE MAX MATA FOUL BEFORE, AND... ABDURISAG GETTING INTO THE FACE OF MICHAEL BOXALL. HE'D BE WELL-ADVISED NOT TO DO THAT. SOMETHING'S HAPPENED HERE THAT REALLY, REALLY GOT THE BACKS OF THE NEW ZEALANDERS UP. FOOTBALL FERN LIV CHANCE APPLAUDING THE MEN'S STRONG STANCE. WE STAND WITH OUR MEN'S TEAM. I'M SURE IN THE COMING DAYS, MORE WILL COME OUT. THERE IS NO ROOM FOR RACISM IN THE SPORT. I AM VERY PROUD OF THE BOYS. IT IS MASSIVE TO GO AND ONE NELL UP AND MAKE THE DECISION THAT WE'RE NOT PLAYING. FULL CREDIT TO THEM. AFTER NO ACTION WAS TAKEN BY THE OFFICIALS, THE ALL WHITES AGREED NOT TO RETURN AFTER THE HALFTIME BREAK. WITNESSES HAVE REPORTED AN AXE WAS INVOLVED IN AN ATTACK IN THE AUCKLAND SUBURB OF ALBANY LAST NIGHT THAT'S LEFT THREE PEOPLE HOSPITALISED. TESSA PARKER IS AT THE SCENE. WHAT'S THE LATEST, TESSA? MORENA. THE SUN HAS COME UP OVER THE SCENE AND ALBANESE. POLICE WILL CONTINUE THEIR INVESTIGATIONS AND CONDUCT A SCENE EXAMINATION LATER THIS MORNING. THIS RESTAURANT BEHIND ME WAS JUST ONE OUT OF THREE BUSINESSES INVOLVED IN LAST NIGHTS ATTACK. WITNESSES TOLD US ABOUT SITTING INSIDE WHEN SOMEONE WALKED DOWN BEFORE THEY WIELDED AN AXE AND ATTACK THEIR FRIENDS AND TRY TO ATTACK THEM. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SCENE BEHIND US CORDONED OFF AREA, YOU CAN SEAFOOD STREWN ACROSS THE RESTAURANT AS WELL AS RANDOM PIECES OF CLOTHING LISTED OUTSIDE. POLICE HAVE ARRESTED AND CHARGED A 24 YEAR OLD MAN WITH WOUNDING INTENT TO CAUSE GRIEVOUS BODILY HARM. HE WILL BE APPEARING ON THE NORTH SHORE DISTRICT COURT LATER THIS MORNING. POLICE WOULD LIKE TO REASSURE THE PUBLIC THAT THEY BELIEVE THIS IS AN ISOLATED INCIDENT. HOWEVER THEY ARE STILL APPEALING FOR MORE INFORMATION AND FOR VIDEOS FROM WITNESSES WHO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE EVENT. THANK YOU, TESSA. A DEEP DIVE INTO OUR BANKING SECTOR IS EXPECTED TO BE ANNOUNCED TODAY. 1 NEWS UNDERSTANDS THE GOVERNMENT WILL WRITE TO THE COMMERCE COMMISSION TO CONDUCT A MARKET STUDY. FUND MANAGER SAM STUBBS SAYS WE'VE GOT TO LOOK INTO THE BIG PROBLEMS ACROSS THE INDUSTRY SUCH AS COMPETITION AND HUGE PROFITS. IF YOU ARE MAKING $10 BILLION A YEAR, YOU WOULD THINK YOUR CUSTOMERS WOULD BE DELIGHTED WITH YOU, RIGHT? BUT THAT IS EXACTLY NOT THE CASE FOR THE BANKS. IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE CALL THE INEPRA MOTOR SCORES, THEY'RE OFTEN NEGATIVE. YOU KNOW, THE CUSTOMERS ARE VERY DISSATISFIED WITH THEIR BANKS OVERALL, AND YET THE BANKS ARE MAKING SO MUCH MONEY. THERE'S SOMETHING FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG WITH THAT. THE GOVERNMENT OPTED FOR THE COMMERCE COMMISSION STUDY, WHILE EVERY OTHER PARTY WANTED THE SHORTER PROCESS OF A SELECT COMMITTEE. SOME SURGEONS ARE FEELING UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT A NEW METHOD BEING USED TO PRIORITISE PATIENTS. IT'S NOW A REQUIREMENT FOR ETHNICITY TO BE CONSIDERED ALONGSIDE OTHER FACTORS WHEN PRIORITISING PATIENTS FOR SURGERY. DR VANESSA BLAIR SAYS THERE'S NO REAL EVIDENCE ON WHETHER THIS APPROACH WORKS, AND STRESSED THERE NEEDS TO BE EVIDENCE THIS APPROACH WORKS AND STRESSED THERE NEEDS TO BE EVIDENCE BEFORE IT'S ROLLED OUT NATIONALLY. THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS IF SURGERY WAS RESOURCED PROPERLY, THAT'S WITH WORKFORCE AND WITH FUNCTIONAL CAPACITY THEATRES, EVERYONE WOULD HAVE THEIR SURGERY DONE WITHIN FOUR MONTHS. YOU WOULDN'T NEED ANY TOOL, BECAUSE THERE WOULDN'T BE INEQUITIES, IF IT WAS WITHIN FOUR MONTHS, YOU HAD GOT YOUR OPERATION. IT'S PART OF TE WHATU ORA'S NEW 'EQUITY ADJUSTOR SCORE' WHICH AIMS TO REDUCE INEQUITY IN THE HEALTH SYSTEM. THE U.S. COAST GUARD HAS CONFIRMED FIVE PEOPLE WERE ON BOARD A SUBMARINE THAT'S MISSING DURING AN EXPEDITION TO THE TITANIC SHIPWRECK. THE BOSTON COAST GUARD IS LEADING THE SEARCH AND RESCUE OPERATION IN THE ATLANTIC OCEAN WHERE THE TITANIC LIES SOME 3800M BENEATH THE WAVES. THE VESSEL IS BELIEVED TO HAVE DISAPPEARED MORE THAN A DAY AGO, ABOUT ONE HOUR AND 45 MINUTES INTO THE DIVE. THE MISSING SUBMARINE USUALLY DIVES WITH A FOUR DAY SUPPLY OF OXYGEN. THE CREW WERE AWARE OF THE DANGERS. THERE WERE LOTS OF SAFETY PROCEDURES IN PLACE. THEY MADE IT CLEAR TO ME WHEN I WAS THERE THAT FOR AN OPERATION LIKE THIS, IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG, IT TENDS TO BE A RECOVERY MISSION, RATHER THAN A RESCUE MISSION. ONE OF THOSE BELIEVED TO BE ON BOARD IS BRITISH BILLIONAIRE AND EXPLORER HAMISH HARDING. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING ` TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY ` YOU'LL OPEN THE CURTAINS TO A MOSTLY FINE MORNING. SHOWERS DEVELOPING INTO THE AFTERNOON. 17 THE HIGH FOR MOST OF YOU. FURTHER SOUTH ` A CLOUDY START HERE WITH SCATTERED RAIN. HEAVIER FOR TAURANGA, WHILE THE REST OF YOU GET SOME FINE SPELLS THROUGHOUT THE DAY. HAMILTON, YOUR HIGH IS 16. TO THE EAST COAST ` SIMILAR HERE WITH CLOUDY PERIODS AND MORE SHOWERS FOR GISBORNE. DANNEVIRKE AND MASTERTON ` YOU'LL GET SOME SUNSHINE. MASTERTON ` YOUR HIGH IS 15. OVER TO THE WEST ` A LOVELY START FOR MOST OF YOU. YOU WILL BE ENJOYING THAT. THE ODD SHOWER FOR NEW PLYMOUTH BUT EVERYONE ELSE ENJOY THE SUN. THE ODD SHOWER FOR NEW PLYMOUTH, BUT EVERYONE ELSE ENJOY THE SUN. TO THE SOUTH ISLAND ` MOSTLY CLOUDY WITH SHOWERS FOR SOME OF YOU. EXPECT MORE PERSISTENT RAIN IN NELSON. WESTPORT, YOUR HIGH IS 16. HEADING SOUTH ` A VERY CLOUDY MORNING. HIGH CLOUD HANGS AROUND INTO YOUR AFTERNOON AND EVENING. 13 THE HIGH IN CHRISTCHURCH. TO THE DEEP SOUTH ` A MIXED BAG HERE. SHOWERS FOR MILFORD SOUND AND DUNEDIN. MOST OF YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL AFTERNOON AHEAD. GORE, YOUR HIGH IS 10. NOT BAD FOR QUEENSTOWN. 10 AS WELL. JOHN IS JUST SLOWLY MAKING HIS WAY BACK. WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT TO KNOW? I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU LIKE THE MUSIC AT THE RUGBY. IT IS USUALLY QUITE A GOOD DJ. NO, IT IS NOT. I THINK IT IS TIME TO STOP. THIS HAS BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT IN THE HERALD. IT IS ALWAYS SWEET CAROLINE AND A WHOLE LOT OF CLASSIC HITS. IT KILLS THE ATMOSPHERE. NEW ZEALANDERS DO NOT MAKE ANY NOISE ANYWAY. AT THE MOMENT SOMEONE STARTS PLAYING AHEAD FROM THE 70S AND DROWNS EVERYTHING OUT... IF I WANTED TO LISTEN TO CLASSIC HITS, I WILL PUT ON A BAD RADIO STATION. BUT TO BE FAIR, THE CROWD COMES ALIVE. BUT DOESN'T TAKE A SWEET CAROLINE TO MAKE US COME ALIVE? I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR VIEW ON THIS. YOU HAVE A GOOD PLAYLIST. A STUNNING PLAYLIST. I HAVE TRIED TO LISTEN TO IT, BUT IT IS RATHER LONG. I STARTED AT THE TOP AND THEN GET A BIT DISTRACTED AFTER THE SECOND OR BIRDSONG. THEY WON'T PLAY IN THE OF THAT AT THE RUGBY. WE ONLY WILL LOVE YOUR FEEDBACK IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE MUSIC BEER. LET'S CHANGE THE SUBJECT OF IT. BETWEEN HYPE AND FEAR ABOUT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, THERE WILL SOON BE GOVERNANCE. CALLS FOR INTERVENTIONS IN THE INDUSTRY ARE GROWING AS QUICKLY AS THE TECHNOLOGY IS DEVELOPING. THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. ITS METEORIC RISE HAS SEEN THE CREATION OF IMAGES LIKE THESE. THE POPE IN A PUFFER JACKET AND AN AWARD-WINNING PIECE OF ART. NOW THE EU HAS TAKEN A MAJOR STEP TOWARD REGULATING AI PASSING A FIRST DRAFT OF LEGISLATION. FOR MORE, I'M JOINED BY IAN WARREN FROM DAVID ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. MORENA. LOVELY TO HAVE YOU WITH US. HOW ARE YOU? I AM GREAT, THANK YOU. DO YOU LIKE THE MUSIC AT THE RUGBY? NO. THIRD MAN. WE WILL STOP SEEKING FEEDBACK NOW. THAT IS 100% AGAINST. LET'S TALK ABOUT AI. I HAVE BEEN READING ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE UP TO. THIS LOOKS LIKE A REALLY SENSIBLE PIECE OF LEGISLATION. WHAT ARE THEY TRYING TO ACHIEVE? THEY ARE TRYING TO GET LEGISLATION THAT CAN MOVE WITH THE TIMES, AND THAT IS REALLY HARD, BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE VAGUE ENOUGH TO BE RELEVANT IN THE FUTURE BUT DETAILED ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY CONTROL THINGS. THE WAY THEY HAVE DONE THAT IS BY RISK. I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT. THEY HAVE CATEGORISED DIFFERENT RISK AREAS FROM UNACCEPTABLE RISKS, AND THEN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO LOW RISK, WHICH WILL BE WHERE WE WOULD SIT. THAT IS A REALLY GOOD WAY TO DO THINGS. IT MEANS THAT EVERY SINGLE STEP OF THE PROCESS, THE DEVELOPERS HAVE GOT TO PROVE THAT THERE IS A LOW RISK AND TAKE STEPS TO DO IT. AND THAT IS A REALLY SMART WAY TO FUTURE PROOF THE LEGISLATION. YOU USED TO FACE A MERRY PHRASE THERE. BETTER MARY AI. WHAT ARE THE APPLICATIONS FOR AI IN A VETERINARY SURGERY? VETERINARY SURGEONS ARE INCREDIBLY OVERWORKED. IMPROVEMENT IN WORKFLOW, SO FOR INSTANCE, YOU CAN UPLOAD AN IMAGE OF AN ANIMAL, AND IT WILL OUTLINE WHETHER PATHOLOGY IS. THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR DENTISTRY. OR YOU CAN CONNECTED TO YOUR X-RAY DEVICE AND AS YOUR IMAGE POPS UP ON THE SCREEN, ALL THE SIGNIFICANT PATHOLOGY IS MARKED UP. IN DENTISTRY, THE TRAINING IS NOT GREAT. IT IS NOT EXAMINED OFTEN. THEREFORE THE SKILL SET IS LOW. THERE ARE REALLY INTERESTED BEDS IN DENTISTRY WHO DO IT VERY WELL. BUT IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE ABOUT 90% OF ALL COMPANION ANIMALS OVER FOUR OR FIVE YEARS SUFFER FROM REALLY BAD MOUTH DISEASES. FOR THE VISIONARY INDUSTRY, THIS AI IS A GREAT THING. THERE ARE DOZENS OF EXAMPLES ABOUT HOW IT CAN HELP US. FOR ME, LISTENING TO THE SURGEONS BEFORE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID MESS, I THINK, AND THE EU LEGISLATION IS ABOUT BIAS AND DISCRIMINATION. TALK ABOUT THAT. THAT IS FASCINATING. BIAS AND DISCRIMINATION ` WHEN YOU START OFF WITH AN AI, YOU HAVE TO TEACH IT BY MODELLING, AND YOU MODEL IT ON DATA. WHAT I WAS HEARING AND SEEING WAS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF HISTORICAL DATA FROM THE PAST BEING USED IN A SYSTEM TO SCORE AND JUST REPLICATING THE HISTORICAL BIAS, AND NOT ONLY THAT BUT WHEN WE GOT HUMAN INTERVENTION, WE SPENT A FORTUNE ON DEVELOPING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND IT IS JUST GOING TO EITHER BE WORSE OR THE SAME AS THE PAST. HOW DO WE GET THIS RIGHT? WHAT YOU AND I BOTH KNOW, AND I THINK EVERYONE WATCHING NOSE, IS THAT IF WE TRY AND CORRECT FAILURES WHEN THE HORSE HAS BOLTED, THEN IT IS INVARIABLY TOO LATE. HOW DO WE PRESCRIBE THE ARCHITECTURE, THE LIMITS AND THE CONTROLS OF AI NOW, BEFORE WE REALLY EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT AI IS CAPABLE OF? THERE IS NO EASY ANSWER. FOR THE BIAS AND DISCRIMINATION, WHEN YOU TRAIN AND MODEL, FOR US, WE USED CERTIFIES SPECIALISTS, DR DAVID CLARK LED THE TEAM, AND THAT TEAM HAD A PRESCRIBED METHOD OF MARKING UP IMAGES SO THAT WE COULD TEACH THE AI. IF YOU RELATE THAT TO MORE SOCIETY ORIENTATED THINGS, YOU HAVE GOT THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITY YOU WILL EVER HAVE TO SAY WE DO NOT WANT TO BE RACIALLY PREJUDICE. THE SURGEONS WERE SAYING IT ON TV. THEY WERE SAYING THEY SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM. WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IS CLASSIFYING THIS BY CLINICAL NEED, SO YOU GET A GROUP OF CLINICIANS AND YOU GET THEM TO LOOK AT HOW THEY SHOULD MODEL PATIENT PRIORITY, AND YOU GET THEM TO DO THAT OVER A NUMBER OF CASES, AND TEACH YOUR MODEL, AND YOUR MODEL WILL DO IT. ANOTHER THING THAT I WISH SOMEONE WOULD DO IS TO GET AN AI TO SCRAPE THROUGH THE COMPANIES OFFICE. LET'S HAVE A LOOK AT ALL OF THE PARLIAMENTARIANS. LET'S SEE WHERE THEY ARE INTERESTED. GET THE POLITICAL LEADERS TO SAY HAVE YOU GOT A CONFLICT-OF-INTEREST? IF THEY SAY NO, WHEN THERE IS ONE, GET RID OF THEM. (LAUGHS) IT IS THAT SIMPLE, REALLY. JUST BEFORE YOU GO, WE ARE ON THE CONTINUUM OF DELIGHTED AND EXCITED BY AI THROUGH TO TERRIFIED OF AI ARE YOU? I AM BOTH DELIGHTED AND TERRIFIED. BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. IT HAS GOT THE CAPACITY TO DO GREAT GOOD. MY KIDS ARE AT HOME TODAY. THERE IS NO SCHOOL. THERE IS A STRIKE. SOME OF THE TEACHERS WILL NOT SET HOMEWORK. THEY WILL BE USING AI TO GIVE THEM ACCESS TO EDUCATION AT HOME. I CANNOT TEACH THEM BECAUSE I AM WORKING. IT IS JUST EASY TO DO THINGS IF YOU USE IT WELL. BUT IF YOU USE IT POORLY, IT CAN BE TERRIBLE. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, IT IS ABSOLUTELY A QUESTION OF BEING OPEN AND HONEST ABOUT WHO SETS THE RULES, MAKING SURE THAT THOSE RULES OTHER DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO GO, AND AI IS A LOGICAL SOLUTION. IT IS EITHER IN OR IT ISN'T. IT LOOKS RATHER GLORIOUS BEHIND YOU THIS MORNING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. WHAT A FASCINATING CONVERSATION. THANKS, IAN. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU, JOHN. SAY HI TO THE KIDS FOR US. I WILL. NO AI BACKGROUND HERE. ME U TONU MAI. STAY WITH US. AFTER THE BREAK, IT'S THE COMPETITION GIVING THE RUGBY WORLD CUP A RUN FOR ITS MONEY. THE WINNER OF NEW ZEALAND'S BEST TOASTIE TAKEOVER JOINS US. # FOR TODAY, # I REMEMBER YOUR SMILE. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAN A MINUTE. ONE OF NEW ZEALAND'S MOST HOTLY ANTICIPATED COMPETITIONS HAS COME TO A CLOSE. MORE THAN 180 EATERIES CREATED MOUTHWATERING COMBINATIONS FOR THE 'GREAT TOASTIE TAKEOVER', SERVING UP 140,000 TOASTIES IN THE SPACE OF A FEW MONTHS. HOW MANY? 140,000. BUT ONE SAMMY MELTED IT'S WAY INTO THE JUDGES HEARTS. BUT ONE SAMMY MELTED ITS WAY INTO THE JUDGES HEARTS. HOW YOU ARE, JOHN. CAMERON, WHO WAS A GLORIOUS YOUNG MAN, OUR ASSOCIATE PRODUCER, THIS IS LIKE A MANILA FOLDER AND A DISHCLOTH HAD A BABY. TRULY. HOW MANY ENTRIES WERE THERE? THIS ONE WOULD HAVE COME LAST. WE ADORE YOU, CAMERON, BUT DO NOT ENTER THE TOASTY BUSINESS. BREAKFAST CAN ANNOUNCE THAT THE 2023 TOASTIE OF THE YEAR IS... THIS IS IT. IT IS OUR TAKE ON IT. IT IS LIKE IF YOU DID A SMALL PAINTING WITH A FELT PEN AND SAID YOU DID THE MONA LISA. IT WAS MADE BEFORE 6 AM. THE MONA LISA PAINTED IN THE DARK. IT IS MAYBE A LITTLE UNKIND. THE 2023 TOASTY OF THE YEAR IS 'THE SURF TURF AND SMOKE MONSIEUR' BY BROOKE MOORE IN TAURANGA! YES, BROOKE. CONGRATS, BROOKE. GO, BROOKE. THAT LOOKS WAY BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE GOT. HOLD IT UP TO THE CAMERA. AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN. WE WILL HOLD OUR ONE UP, AND WE WILL COMPARE THEM. (LAUGHTER) MAYBE... BROOKE, WE MIGHT HAVE MISSED ALL OF THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE RECIPE CARD. YOU HAD BETTER TELL US. CONGRATULATIONS. WHAT MAKES A WINNING TOASTY? WE CLEARLY NEED SOME HELP. MY TOASTY IS A SURF AND TURF IDEA. I KIND OF THOUGHT WHERE WE ARE AT THE MOMENT, IT HAS GOT SURF AND TURF ALMONDS. THERE IS THE BEACH AND THE SURF AND THE TURF WHICH IS A MOUNTAIN IN THE BACKGROUND, AND THE SHEEP. IT COMBINES BOTH OF THOSE ELEMENTS. IT HAS THE SURF, BEING THE SMOKE PRAWNS, AND THE TURF BEING THE LAMB PASTRAMI. IT IS ALL SANDWICHED TOGETHER WITH A BEAUTIFUL SOURDOUGH. IT IS JUST A REALLY NICE TOASTY. LOTS OF GOOD STUFF IN THERE. THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL FLAVOUR COMBINATIONS. WAS THERE A TRIAL AND ERROR? DID YOU HAVE A LOT OF GOES BEFORE YOU SETTLED ON THIS? DEFINITELY. I STAYED LATE AFTER WORK ALL OF THE TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, TROUBLESHOOTING, JUST DOING TOASTIES AND THEY WERE NOT WORKING. FINALLY I CAME ACROSS THIS ONE. IT TOOK A LONG TIME. HOW DOES THE CHEESE NOT KILL THE PRAWNS? HOW DOES THAT WORK? WE WISH WE COULD TRY IT, BUT WHAT WE HAVE IS NOT QUITE THE SAME AS YOURS. TELLS ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON THERE. THE CHEESE THAT I PICKED IS JUST A MELLOW MOZZARELLA. IT DOES NOT REALLY INTERFERE WITH THE FLAVOUR IS GOING ON. IT IS A NICE MULTI-CHEESE THAT OOZES OUT BUT DOES NOT HAVE THE FLAVOUR. SAM CAN GO AND EAT THIS. I WILL BRING THESE CLOWNS WITH ME. HE IS FROM TAURANGA. ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP IT ON THE MENU? THEY WANTED ON THE MENU. MORE TOASTIES FOR A LONG TIME. TOASTIES ARE SUCH GOOD FOOD. EVERYONE LOVES THEM. YOU CAN DO THE SIMPLEST ONE IN THE WORLD YOU CAN GO FANCY. GO YOU, BROOKE. CONGRATULATIONS. WELL DONE. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT STUFF. SHE IS JOINING US WITH THAT MAGIC CREATION. GET YOURSELF DOWN IF YOU WANT TO TRY IT YOURSELF. I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND OUR VERSION. JOHN IS ABOUT TO SAMPLE IT. HE WILL TELL US ALL ABOUT IT AFTER THE BREAK. AFTER THE BREAK, YOUR 8.30 NEWS, SPORT AND WEATHER, PLUS THE REFUGEE WHOSE SET HIS SIGHTS ON BECOMING ONE OF THE WORLD'S YOUNG EXPLORERS. THAT'S AFTER YOUR NEWS. WELCOME BACK, IT'S 831. THE ALL WHITES HAVE ABANDONED THEIR FRIENDLY AGAINST QATAR THIS MORNING AFTER ALLEGATIONS ONE OF THEIR PLAYERS WAS RACIALLY ABUSED. THE INCIDENT OCCURRED AFTER A FREE KICK WAS AWARDED TO QATAR IN THE FIRST HALF. THE NEW ZEALAND PLAYERS REACTING STRONGLY TO THE COMMENTS. DIDN'T LOOK TO BE MUCH IN THAT. TURNED OUT TO NOT BE MUCH DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM. GETTING ON HIS FACE, HE WOULD BE WELL ADVISED NOT TO DO THAT. AFTER NO ACTION WAS TAKEN BY THE OFFICIALS, THE ALL WHITES AGREED NOT TO RETURN AFTER THE HALF TIME BREAK. AND THE FACTS OF THE FOLLOWING, APPARENTLY TO PLAYERS ON THE PITCH EXCHANGED WORDS. IT'S ONLY BETWEEN THEM. AND THEY DECIDED TO ABANDON THE GAME WITH NO WITNESSES. THE COACHES ARE, NOBODY LISTENED. IT IS JUST BETWEEN THE TWO PLAYERS. NEW ZEALAND WAS LEADING THE MATCH 1-0 WHEN IT WAS ABANDONED. THREE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HOSPITALISED AFTER A PERSON ENTERED SEVERAL BUSINESSES IN THE AUCKLAND SUBURB OF ALBANY AND STRUCK CUSTOMERS WITH A WEAPON. TESSA PARKER IS OUTSIDE THE SCENE. WHAT CAN YOU TELL US TESSA? THREE BUSINESSES WERE INVOLVED IN THE ATTACK LAST NIGHT. THERE ARE AT LEAST EIGHT HIGHNESS POLICE CAUGHT ON. WE JUST SAW A BUSINESS OWNER TRY TO ARRIVE SO GOODS COULD BE DELIVERED HER STORE BUT THAT WASN'T ABLE TO HAPPEN BUT DUE TO THE POLICE CAUGHT ON. THEY ARE UNSURE HOW LONG THE COURT AND WILL LAST AS A SCENE EXAMINATION AND ENQUIRIES ARE ONGOING. A PERSON HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH INTENT TO INJURE AND CAUSE BODILY HARM, THEY WILL APPEAR IN NORTH SHORE DISTRICT COURT THIS MORNING. TWO PEOPLE ARE IN HOSPITAL WITH MINOR INJURIES AND 1/3 HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED TO AUCKLAND HOSPITAL. POLICE CONTINUE INVESTIGATIONS HOWEVER THEY BELIEVE THIS INCIDENT IS ISOLATED. THEY ARE APPEALING TO WITNESSES WHO COULD HAVE MORE INFORMATION OR VIDEOS. THE SCORE MAKES IT A REQUIREMENT FOR ETHNICITY TO BE CONSIDERED ALONGSIDE OTHER FACTORS WHEN PRIORITISING PATIENTS FOR SOME SURGERY. BUT THE PRIME MINISTER WANTS AYESHA VERRALL TO GO BACK AND MAKE SURE IN CORRECTING PAST DISCRIMINATION IT'S NOT CREATING ANOTHER FORM AGAINST EVERYBODY ELSE. I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PROVIDING THE PUBLIC WITH REASSURANCE THAT WE'RE NOT BUILDING ETHNICITY IN AS A SORT OF A PROACTIVE DISCRIMINATION FACTOR WHERE THERE'S NOT A CLINICAL JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT. SO I'VE HEARD THE CONCERNS OF THE SURGEONS. I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE GOVERNMENT WILL WANT TO HAVE A CLOSER LOOK AT. THE U.S. COASTGUARD HAS CONFIRMED FIVE PEOPLE WERE ON BOARD A SUBMARINE THAT'S MISSING DURING AN EXPEDITION TO THE TITANIC SHIPWRECK. THE BOSTON COAST GUARD IS LEADING THE SEARCH AND RESCUE OPERATION IN THE ATLANTIC OCEAN, WHERE THE TITANIC LIES SOME 3800m BENEATH THE WAVES. THE VESSEL IS BELIEVED TO HAVE DISAPPEARED MORE THAN A DAY AGO, ABOUT ONE HOUR AND 45 MINUTES INTO THE DIVE. THE MISSING SUBMARINE USUALLY DIVES WITH A FOUR-DAY SUPPLY OF OXYGEN. U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE ANTONY BLINKEN HAS MET WITH CHINESE PRESIDENT XI JINPING AS HE WRAPS UP A TWO-DAY VISIT TO BEIJING. THE SURPRISE MEETING COULD BE A SIGN THE TWO COUNTRIES ARE TAKING STEPS TOWARDS MENDING THEIR STRAINED RELATIONSHIP. MR BLINKEN SAYS THEY HAD A 'ROBUST CONVERSATION' ABOUT GLOBAL AFFAIRS, INCLUDING RUSSIA'S INVASION OF UKRAINE AND TAIWAN'S INDEPENDENCE. HE REITERATED THERE IS STILL WORK TO DO ON THE SUPERPOWERS' RELATIONSHIP. WE HAVE NO ILLUSIONS ABOUT THE CHALLENGES OF MANAGING THIS RELATIONSHIP. I RAISED U.S. CONCERNS, SHARED BY A GROWING NUMBER OF COUNTRIES, ABOUT THE PRC'S PROVOCATIVE ACTIONS IN THE TAIWAN STRAIT AS WELL AS IN THE SOUTH AND EAST CHINA SEAS. BLINKEN HAS EXTENDED AN INVITATION TO TOP CHINESE DIPLOMATS TO CONTINUE TALKS AT THE WHITE HOUSE. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY ` PRETTY GOOD DAY. YOU'LL OPEN THE CURTAINS TO A MOSTLY FINE MORNING. SHOWERS DEVELOPING INTO THE AFTERNOON. 17 THE HIGH FOR MOST OF YOU. A CLOUDY START HERE WITH SCATTERED RAIN. HEAVIER FOR TAURANGA, WHILE THE REST OF YOU GET SOME FINE SPELLS THROUGHOUT THE DAY. TOKOROA - YOUR HIGH AS 14. TO THE EAST COAST ` SIMILAR HERE WITH CLOUDY PERIODS AND MORE SHOWERS FOR GISBORNE. DANNEVIRKE AND MASTERTON, YOU'LL GET SOME SUNSHINE. OVER TO THE WEST ` A LOVELY START FOR MOST OF YOU. THE ODD SHOWER FOR NEW PLYMOUTH BUT EVERYONE ELSE ENJOY THE SUN. LEVIN YOUR HIGH IS 17. TO THE SOUTH ISLAND ` MOSTLY CLOUDY WITH SHOWERS FOR SOME OF YOU. EXPECT MORE PERSISTENT RAIN IN NELSON. YOUR HIGH AS 15. HEADING SOUTH ` A VERY CLOUDY MORNING. HIGH CLOUD HANGS AROUND INTO YOUR AFTERNOON AND EVENING. ALEXANDRA, YOUR HIGH IS JUST EIGHT. TO THE DEEP SOUTH ` A MIXED BAG HERE. SHOWERS FOR MILFORD SOUND AND DUNEDIN. MOST OF YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL AFTERNOON AHEAD. INVERCARGILL, YOUR HIGH IS 12. THANKS, SAM. I'M DELIGHTED TO REPORT OVERWHELMING CONSENSUS THAT THE MUSIC AT THE RUGBY IS OVERDONE. YOU AGREE WITH ME AND I ADORE YOU AUDIENCE. LET'S PUT A STOP TO IT. WE'VE JUST REACHED 1500, THAT WAS THE TARGET. ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAS ENRICHED US BY COMING TO THIS COUNTRY IS 28 YEARS OLD, ABBAS NAZARI HAS ALREADY LED A REMARKABLE LIFE ` FLEEING THE TALIBAN IN AFGHANISTAN AGED JUST 7, MAKING HIS WAY HERE IN EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES ON THE TAMPA. HE ARRIVED HERE UNABLE TO SPEAK ENGLISH, AND FROM THERE, HE CAME THIRD IN THE NATIONAL SPELLING BEE, A FULLBRIGHT SCHOLAR, AND THE AUTHOR OF 'AFTER THE TAMPA', A BOOK I TRULY LOVE. IT'S THE STORY OF LEAVING AND ARRIVING. NOW HE'S SETTING HIS SIGHTS BEYOND NEW ZEALAND ` JUST NAMED AS ONE OF 22 YOUNG EXPLORERS HEADING OFF ON AN ANTARCTIC EXPEDITION TO SOUTH GEORGIA ISLAND. AND HE JOINS US NOW. MORENA. IT'S SO NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE. I LOVE HOW YOU HOLD UP THAT BOOK EVERY TIME. HAVE YOU READ IT? NOT ONLY DO YOU KNOW I'VE READ IT, THIS IS A STUNNING STORY. YOU'VE SIGNED IT! LET ME SIGN IT. WHAT YOU WANT ME TO SAY? I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE IT TO A VIEWER. AND I THINK THE FIRST EMAIL TO BREAKFAST@TVNZ.CO.NZ WILL SEND IT OUT TO YOU. LET'S START WITH WHERE YOU ARE GOING. SOUTH GEORGIA ISLAND. YOUNG EXPLORERS WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE ANTARCTIC HERITAGE TRUST ARE OFF ON AN EXPEDITION TO SOUTH GEORGIA ISLAND. IT'S A THREE OR FOUR DAY PASSAGE ACROSS THE SOUTHERN OCEAN IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE. THE IRONY ISN'T LOST ON ME THAT I'M DOING ANOTHER BOAT TRIP. BUT HONESTLY, THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TEST OURSELVES IN A FOREIGN ENVIRONMENT, LEARN ABOUT THE GREAT LEGACY AND WHAT HISTORY AND LEGACY MINTS TO ALL OF US. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. WE LEAVE IN LATE SEPTEMBER. LET'S TALK ABOUT WORLD REFUGEE DAY. I WISH I'D BEEN AT THAT SESSION YOU DID IN CHRISTCHURCH WITH HELEN CLARK. WHAT WAS THAT LIKE? WHAT WAS IT LIKE TO TALK TO HER? WORLD REFUGEE DAY TODAY. IT ALWAYS FALLS ON THE SHORTEST DAY OF THE YEAR. IT'S FOR ALL TO REALISE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF HOW LUCKY WE ARE IN THIS COUNTRY AND HOW UNFORTUNATE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE WHO ARE DISPLACED. MY STORY IS SIMILAR TO SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE DISPLACED. WE WERE ONE OF THE VERY LUCKY FEW WHO WERE OFFERED WHAT WE CALL A GOLDEN TICKET TO COME TO NEW ZEALAND COME TO WORK AND REBUILD A NEW LIFE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT IS NEVER LOST ON US. THE REFUGEE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY IN CHRISTCHURCH. MOST OF US ARE BASED IN CHRISTCHURCH AND AUCKLAND. WE HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTRE, OUR GATHERINGS, A FOREIGN LANGUAGE SCHOOL THAT CHILDREN GO TO TO KEEP THEIR MOTHER TONGUE ALIVE. WE CELEBRATE THE CRUSADERS AND THE BLUES. I WAS JUST GOING TO BE RUDE BUT I THOUGHT DON'T DO THAT. THEY ARE LEARNING FUSSY? FARSI IT'S TIED TO WHERE YOU ARE FROM. YES, I ARRIVED IN THE BOAT AND MAY SIBLINGS DID NOT SPEAK FUSSY. MY PARENTS GRABBED EVERYTHING WITH BOTH HANDS AND HOLD ON TIGHT TO THE SINK. IT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. WE HAVE BEEN UPROOTED FROM OUR HOME COUNTRIES AND HAVE BEEN GIVEN A CHANCE TO RESETTLE IN NEW ZEALAND AND WANT TO MAKE THE MOST OF IT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT REFUGEE DAY IS ABOUT. LAST QUESTION, I JUST GOT THE WRAP. I WANT TO KNOW IF IT'S MADE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE CAPABLE OF. WHERE DID YOU GET THAT EXTRAORDINARY SENSE OF POSSIBILITY FROM? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. REFUGEE OFTEN HAS A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION IS SOMEONE WHO IS VULNERABLE AND NEED SUPPORT BUT IT'S ALSO AN INCREDIBLE SOURCE OF STRENGTH. IT DEMANDS RESILIENCE, DEMANDS A LOT FROM YOU. I SEE THAT AS AN INCREDIBLE SOURCE OF STRENGTH. THAT'S GIVEN ME ENORMOUS PERSPECTIVE. VIEWERS AT HOME, TAKE A MINUTE TODAY TO SEE WORLD REFUGEE DAY AS A TIME TO THINK ABOUT HOW FORTUNATE WE ARE. HE IS A REMARKABLE YOUNG MAN AND I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT YOU DO IN THE YEARS AND DECADES TO COME. I'M SURE WE HAVE A WINNER NOW FOR THIS BOOK. THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL BOOK AND I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT HAVE A WONDERFUL TIME. E WHAI AKE NEI, COMING UP ` AUSTRALIA IS ON THE HUNT FOR A POTENTIAL CROCODILE SERIAL KILLER. WE'LL HAVE MORE ON THAT NEXT. TO BREAKING NEWS NOW ` FORMER UK PRIME MINISTER BORIS JOHNSON HAS HAD HIS EX-MP PASS REMOVED BY MPs, MEANING HE IS BANNED FROM ENTERING PARLIAMENT EVER AGAIN. 354 MPs VOTED IN FAVOUR, WITH JUST SEVEN AGAINST THE MPs VOTING TO ENDORSE THE FINDINGS OF THE PRIVILEGES COMMITTEE WHICH FOUND THAT BORIS JOHNSON LIED TO THE HOUSE OF COMMONS OVER PARTYGATE. WOW! EVEN THE TORIES HAVE TURNED ON HIM. OVERWHELMING, ISN'T IT? OF COURSE CAPS IS FROM ONE OF NEW ZEALAND'S GREAT SOMEONE FAMILIES. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAMOA. WITH ITS CAPTIVATING NATURAL BEAUTY, AUTHENTIC HOSPITALITY, AND EXHILARATING ADVENTURES, SAMOA IS A BUCKET-LIST DESTINATION. IF IT'S ON YOUR BUCKET LIST, LISTEN UP. THIS WEEK WE'VE PARTNERED WITH SAMOA TOURISM AND SENT OUR TRUSTY TRAVEL GUIDE MATT GIBB ACROSS TO EXPLORE THIS ISLAND PARADISE. GIVE US A LITTLE TASTE TEST. PARADISE IS THE WORD. RIGHT NOW I'D LOVE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE MARVELLOUS MICHELLE. HOW ARE YOU THIS MORNING MICHELLE? I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A HUGE THANK YOU FOR THE HOSPITALITY WE'VE HAD HERE. I THOUGHT WE'D COME TO YOU A LITTLE EARLIER IN CASE IT ABSOLUTELY HOSES DOWN. LIQUID SUNSHINE, THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL IT. YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS INCREDIBLE SPREAD. I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A FEW THINGS YOU'VE PREPARED. THIS IS A COCOA POD? THIS IS THE FRUIT OF THE SOMEONE COCOA. AT THE TREE OF LIFE AND SOME MORE. WE EXPORT THIS TO OVERSEAS. WE KNOW THAT WE ARE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH WHITAKER'S IN NEW ZEALAND. WE SUPPLY A COCOA TO THEM TO MAKE CHOCOLATE. WHEN IT COMES OUT OF THE POD, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS UNPROCESSED. WE CUT THE FRUIT AND IT LOOKS LIKE THIS. PULL OFF THE SEEDS HERE. THEN WE TAKE THE SEEDS TO THE SUN. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THIS. OUT IN THE SUN. AND THEN THIS IS ONE OF THE LOCAL SPECIALTIES THIS IS COCOA SAMOA THIS IS THE BEST DRINK WE HAVE. WE EXPORT THESE TO NEW ZEALAND AND AUSTRALIA, ALTHOUGH ROUND THE WORLD.. I JUST WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS PLACE. I CAN'T STOP BUMPING INTO KIWIS THAT ARE STAYING HERE. APPARENTLY HAD A GROUP OF 10 CYCLISTS STAYING HERE FROM NEW ZEALAND? OUR MAIN PEOPLE OVERSEAS ARE VISITING OUR PLACES MAINLY FROM NEW ZEALAND AND AUSTRALIA BUT ALL AROUND THE WORLD AS WELL. THEY WERE CYCLING AROUND THE ISLAND. SO THEY WERE HERE TO STAY THE NIGHT. AND KEEP ON CYCLING THE ISLAND. COME OVER HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO GET A LOOK AT THIS INCREDIBLE SPREAD YOU HAVE HERE FOR US. WHILE WE ARE HERE, THIS IS SAMOAN CEVICHE WE DO THIS EVERY DAY. MAKING FRESH FISH. I'M GOING TO GIVE THAT TO YOU BECAUSE I'M GOING TO KEEP TALKING. YOU'RE WORKING SO HARD THIS MORNING, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO SAVAI YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO SAMOA. ENTER THIS COMPETITION, YOU COULD BE ENJOYING THIS PARADISE AND MEETING MICHELLE HOPEFULLY. I'VE GOT A LOT OF EATING TO DO SO I'M GOING TO GET STUCK IN. I WILL SEE YOU TOMORROW, OUR LAST DAY AND SOME WIRE. I THINK YOU CAN TELL MY TAN IS FADING WHICH MEANS IT'S TIME TO GO. OF MAN, THAT LOOKS DELICIOUS. I TELL YOU WHAT, I WOULD START FOR A WEEK I WOULDN'T EAT TOASTIES FOR A YEAR IF I COULD EAT THAT. E WHAI AKE NEI, COMING UP ` WE SPEAK TO LINDSAY. AUSTRALIA IS ON THE HUNT FOR A POTENTIAL CROCODILE SERIAL KILLER. WE'LL HAVE MORE ON THAT NEXT. # WE WILL SHINE TOGETHER # TOLD YOU I WILL BE HERE FOREVER STOP IS THERE A SERIAL CROC KILLER ON THE LOOSE? THERE'S CONCERN AFTER A SECOND CROCODILE HAS BEEN FOUND DISMEMBERED IN QUEENSLAND. LOCALS ARE QUESTIONING WHO IS BEHIND THIS AND WHY. NOW, A WARNING THAT THIS MAY BE AN UPSETTING CHAT WITH PHOTOS. THE QUEENSLAND DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND SCIENCE IS LOOKING INTO THE MATTER, AND THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCE REGULATION LINDSAY DELZOPPO JOINS US THIS MORNING. THIS IS A CURIOUS CASE, DO YOU THINK IT'S CROCK ON CROCK OR DO WE HAVE A HUMAN TO WORRY ABOUT HERE? THERE ARE A COUPLE OF INCIDENTS THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH. THIS IS A COUPLE OF HOURS NORTH OF CAIRNS WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF CROCODILES. THERE WAS A CROCODILE ON THE BEACH WHICH IS NOT THAT UNUSUAL BECAUSE CROCODILES FIGHT EACH OTHER ALL THE TIME SO WE DIDN'T THINK THAT MUCH OF IT. WE COULDN'T SEE MUCH INFORMATION BUT LATER ON, WE HAD REPORTS THAT SOMEONE HAD CUT IT UP WITH A CHAINSAW. AS YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE LATER ON, THERE WAS A DEAD FEMALE CROCODILE FOUND ON THE RIVER. IT LOOKED LIKE SOMEONE HAD FILLETED IT. THE SCULLERS THERE, AND EVERYTHING A HOUSE HAD BEEN REMOVED THAT WAS ALARM ENOUGH BUT THEN HE REPORTED RECEIVING A PHONE CALL FROM SOMEONE CLAIMING TO HAVE KILLED THEM WITH A CHAINSAW AND PUT THEM THERE DELIBERATELY. THAT STARTED GETTING US VERY CONCERNED. AT ALL SOUNDS A LITTLE BIT GRUESOME, ACTUALLY. CAN YOU TELL US HOW DO YOU INVESTIGATE THIS AND DO YOU THINK YOU CAN GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT'S BEHIND IT? WE ARE RELYING ON INFORMATION FROM THE PUBLIC. ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THIS CROCODILE OR ANYONE WHO HAS BITS OF CROCODILE IN THEIR FRIDGE. IT'S CERTAINLY A VERY CURIOUS CASE, WE WILL STAY IN TOUCH AND WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I KNOW IT'S EARLY FOR YOU. GRUESOME. 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