IT'S WEDNESDAY THE 21ST OF JUNE. MORENA, THIS IS BREAKFAST. THE DECK CHAIRS KEEP ON MOVING. SCOTTY IS IN THE HOUSE. YOU CAN'T BRING UP DECK CHAIRS WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE TITANIC. THE TITANIC SUBMERSIBLE HAS JUST 40 HOURS OF OXYGEN LEFT ACCORDING TO THE US COAST GUARD. IT DISAPPEARED ON MONDAY CARRYING FIVE PEOPLE AND HASN'T BEEN SEEN SINCE. THIS WAS THE COAST GUARD SPEAKING A SHORT TIME AGO. SINCE SUNDAY, THE COAST GUARD HAS COORDINATED EFFORTS WITH THE U.S AND CANADIAN COAST GUARD, AIR NATIONAL GUARD AIR CRAFT AND THE POLAR PRINCE, WHICH HAS SEARCHED A COMBINED 7600 SQUARE MILES, AN AREA LARGER THAN THE STATE OF CONNECTICUT. THESE SEARCH EFFORTS HAVE FOCUSED ON BOTH SURFACE, WITH C130 AIRCRAFTS SEARCHING BY SIGHT AND WITH RADAR, AND SUB SURFACE WITH P3 AIR CRAFT WERE ABLE TO DROP A MONITOR SONAR BUOYS. TODAY, THOSE SEARCH EFFORTS HAVE NOT YIELDED ANY RESULTS. WE WILL SPEAK TO A REPORTER WHO WENT ON THE SUBMERSIBLE LAST YEAR AND RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT IT JUST AFTER SEVEN. IT'S JUST WEEKS OUT FROM THE START OF THE SKI SEASON AND THE FUTURE OF MOUNT RUAPEHU IS IN DOUBT. BOTH PROPOSALS TO TAKE OVER THE MOUNTAIN FAILED YESTERDAY, SO WHAT DOES THIS NOW MEAN? WE ASK THE MAYOR AND HAPU THIS MORNING. MAKING HEADLINES ` INFLUENCER ANDREW TATE AND HIS BROTHER TRISTAN HAVE BOTH BEEN CHARGED WITH RAPE AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING IN ROMANIA. THE TWO HAVE DENIED THE ALLEGATIONS AND HAVE BEEN UNDER HOUSE ARREST. AND WE'RE REVISITING THE INVESTIGATION INTO A QUEENSLAND CROCODILE SERIAL KILLER AFTER 8 ` THE ANONYMOUS CONFESSION FROM SOMEONE WHO SAYS THEY COMMITTED THE CRIME. STICK AROUND. YOU CAN'T WAIT. IT IS A MAD STORY. WE STILL DON'T KNOW IF THE KILLER IS A CROCODILE OR A HUMAN BEING. CAN'T WAIT. NOW SAM WITH THE NEWS. SEARCH TEAMS ARE RACING AGAINST TIME TO RESCUE FIVE PASSENGERS ONBOARD A MISSING SUBMERSIBLE IN THE ATLANTIC AFTER IT DISAPPEARED DURING AN EXPEDITION TO THE TITANIC SHIPWRECK. CONTACT WAS LOST AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES INTO ITS DIVE, AND NOW ONLY 40 HOURS OF OXYGEN IS LEFT ONBOARD. THE BBC'S FRANCES READ REPORTS. AT THE MOMENT, LOST IN A VAST OCEAN WITH THREE DAYS OF OXYGEN LEFT. THE BRITISH BILLIONAIRE HAMISH HARDING, BRITISH NATIONAL SHAHZADA DAWOOD AND HIS SON SULEMAN AND FRENCH EXPLORER PAUL-HENRY NARGEOLET. ALONG WITH THEM, THOUGHT TO BE THIS MAN, STOCKTON RUSH. IT'S BASICALLY A SONY PLAYSTATION STYLE CONTROLLER. IF YOU WANT TO GO FORWARD, YOU PRESS FORWARD. HE'S THE CEO OF OCEAN GATE, WHICH RUNS THE EXPEDITIONS. THE SEARCH CONTINUES FOR THE CRAFT IN A VAST, DEEP OCEAN. THE VESSEL IS ONLY 22FT LONG AND THERE'S NO BACKUP SHIP OR ESCAPE POD. IT IS A REMOTE AREA AND IT IS A CHALLENGE TO CONDUCT A SEARCH IN THAT REMOTE AREA. BUT WE ARE DEPLOYING ALL AVAILABLE ASSETS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN LOCATE THE CRAFT AND RESCUE THE PEOPLE ON BOARD. REACHING THE TITANIC IS NOT AN EASY TASK. THOSE PAYING ALMOST �200,000 TO GO ON THE EXPLORATION AREN'T NECESSARILY GUARANTEED SIGHTINGS OF THE WRECKAGE. SEARCH TEAMS ARE CURRENTLY FOCUSING ON AN AREA 13,000FT DEEP, AND IT'S NOT WITHOUT RISK. NORMAL MILITARY SUBMARINES USUALLY WORK AT DEPTHS OF A FEW HUNDRED METRES. YOU HAVE TO RELY ON THE GOOD FORTUNE OF HAVING A SHIP WITH AN ROV THAT DEPTH CAPABLE NEARBY THAT CAN ACTUALLY AFFECT THE RESCUE. AND ALL THAT WE CAN HOPE IS THAT THE SHIP, THE DEEP ENERGY WHICH IS ON SITE NOW, CAN DO THAT. MILITARY SEARCHES CONTINUE NOW. THE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN GOOD, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN FOG PATCHES AND DECREASED VISIBILITY. OCEAN GATE SAYS ITS ENTIRE FOCUS IS ON THE CREW MEMBERS AND THEIR FAMILIES THE HOPE IS THAT THEY'RE FOUND IN TIME. SKILLED WORKERS WILL NOW HAVE A MORE SIMPLIFIED PATHWAY TO RESIDENCY. THE GOVERNMENT'S ANNOUNCED A NEW SIX POINT SYSTEM WILL BE INTRODUCED FROM OCTOBER WHICH ALLOCATES POINTS TO MIGRANTS BASED ON THEIR JOB, QUALIFICATIONS OR INCOME. MIGRANTS CAN ALSO EARN A POINT FOR EVERY YEAR OF WORK IN NEW ZEALAND THEY COMPLETE IN A SKILLED JOB. THE CAP ON SKILLED MIGRANTS HAS ALSO BEEN DITCHED, WITH THE HOPE BUSINESSES FACING SKILL SHORTAGES CAN ATTRACT MORE WORKERS. FINANCIAL LOSSES FROM CYBER CRIME IS UP BY 66% ACCORDING TO THE LATEST REPORT FROM CERT NZ. THAT MEANS IN THE LAST QUARTER, NEW ZEALANDERS LOST $6M TO SCAMS, WITH THE NUMBER OF SCAM REPORTS CONTINUING TO RISE. THE REPORT SUGGESTS ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS BEING USED TO CREATE MORE CONVINCING SCAMS, MAKING IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO DETECT. CERT NZ URGES KIWIS TO REMAIN VIGILANT ONLINE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ENCOUNTER INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT SEEM TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE. WEEKLY RENTAL PRICES HAVE CLIMBED AGAIN UP TO $610 FOR THE MONTH OF MAY. NEW DATA FROM TRADE ME SHOWS THE AVERAGE TENANT IS PAYING $35 MORE A WEEK WHEN COMPARED WITH THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR. AUCKLAND HAS THE HIGHEST MEDIAN RENTAL PRICE, WHICH TRADE ME BLAMES ON WIDESPREAD FLOODING CAUSING SUPPLY ISSUES. BUT COMPARED WITH THIS TIME LAST YEAR, SUPPLY IS DOWN 19% ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND DEMAND IS UP 35%. THE REMOVAL AND DISPOSAL OF CONTAMINATED MATERIAL AT THE SITE OF THE FATAL LOAFERS LODGE FIRE BEGINS TODAY. WELLINGTON COUNCIL HAS ISSUED A DANGEROUS BUILDING NOTICE DUE TO INTERNAL DAMAGE AND WIDESPREAD ASBESTOS. DUE TO HEALTH AND SAFETY CONCERNS, IT MEANS RESIDENTS CAN'T RECOVER THEIR POSSESSIONS. THE REMOVAL PROCESS IS EXPECTED TO TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS. ONLINE PERSONALITY ANDREW TATE HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH RAPE AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING IN ROMANIA. OFFICIALS ALLEGE TATE, ALONGSIDE HIS BROTHER AND TWO ROMANIAN WOMEN FORMED A CRIMINAL GROUP THAT SEXUALLY EXPLOITED SEVEN WOMEN. TATE HAS 6 MILLION TWITTER FOLLOWERS ` THE MAJORITY OF THEM YOUNG MEN. HE'S PREVIOUSLY BEEN BANNED FROM SOCIAL PLATFORMS FOR EXPRESSING MISOGYNISTIC VIEWS AND HATE SPEECH. TO SPORT, AND THE QATAR FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION HAS DENIED ANY RACIAL COMMENTS WERE DIRECTED AT ANY ALL WHITES PLAYERS DURING THEIR ABANDONED FRIENDLY YESTERDAY MORNING INSTEAD CLAIMING THEY WERE THE VICTIMS OF ABUSE. THE NEW ZEALAND PLAYERS REFUSED TO PLAY THE SECOND HALF OF THE MATCH AFTER OFFICIALS FAILED TO ACT ON CLAIMS A RACIAL SLUR WAS AIMED AT DEFENDER MICHAEL BOXALL. IN A STATEMENT, THE QFA ADMITTED THERE WAS AN EXCHANGE OF WORDS BUT STRESSED NO RACIAL OR DISCRIMINATORY LANGUAGE WAS USED. THE QATARI PLAYER INVOLVED THEN CLAIMED HE WAS RACIALLY ABUSED DURING THE MATCH. TO SPORT AND FRENCH POLICE HAVE RAIDED THE HEADQUARTERS OF ORGANISERS OF THE PARIS 2024 OLYMPICS. THE RAIDS ARE PART OF TWO PRELIMINARY CORRUPTION INVESTIGATIONS. THERE ARE REPORTS POLICE ARE LOOKING INTO ALLEGATIONS OF FAVOURITISM AND MISUSE OF PUBLIC MONEY FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. THE SUMMER GAMES WILL BE HELD IN THE FRENCH CAPITAL IN JUST OVER A YEAR. THE FIRST ASHES TEST IS GOING DOWN TO THE WIRE AT EDGBASTON. DESPITE LOSING USMAN KHAWAJA, THE AUSTRALIAN TAIL IS PROVING DIFFICULT FOR THE ENGLAND ATTACK. LOOKING IN THAT DIRECTION ` THERE HE GOES. UP AND OVER. NAILED IT... AND NAILED IT FOR SIX. UP AND OVER AGAIN. AGGRESSION FROM THE AUSTRALIAN SKIPPER. SIX MORE. AUSTRALIA NEED JUST 13 RUNS TO WIN BUT ONLY HAVE TWO WICKETS IN HAND. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING ` TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY ` A RAINY START UP HERE. THIS BECOMES HEAVY AND THUNDERY IN THE AFTERNOON FOR SOME OF YOU. 16 THE HIGH IN KAITAIA. FURTHER SOUTH ` CLOUDY FOR YOU WITH SCATTERED SHOWERS. EXPECT THIS RAIN TO BUILD AND BECOME HEAVIER INTO YOUR EVENING. 17 THE HIGH FOR TAURANGA. TO THE EAST COAST ` YOU'LL GET A MOSTLY FINE MORNING. RAIN DEVELOPING INTO THE AFTERNOON, HEAVY FOR GISBORNE. 15 THE HIGH FOR MOST OF YOU. OVER TO THE WEST ` LOOKING VERY DIFFERENT HERE. NEW PLYMOUTH AND TAUMARANUI GET SOME HIGH CLOUD BUT EVERYONE ELSE WILL ENJOY BLUE SKIES. WHANGANUI ` YOUR HIGH IS 19. TO THE SOUTH ISLAND ` SIMILAR HERE. EXPECT THE ODD SHOWER IN NELSON THIS MORNING. LOOKING FINE FOR EVERYONE ELSE. 17 THE HIGH IN WESTPORT. HEADING SOUTH ` A VERY CLOUDY START TO YOUR MORNING. EXPECT THIS HIGH CLOUD TO LINGER INTO THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING. 12 THE HIGH FOR TIMARU. TO THE DEEP SOUTH ` YOU'LL WAKE UP TO HIGH CLOUD THIS MORNING. THIS WILL CLEAR TO A BEAUTIFUL AFTERNOON FOR MOST OF YOU. QUEENSTOWN ` YOUR HIGH IS 10. AS WE HEARD IN THE NEWS, NO DEAL COULD BE REACHED TO SAVE THE EMBATTLED COMPANY OPERATING RUAPEHU'S SKI-FIELDS. CREDITORS OF RUAPEHU ALPINE LIFTS, WHICH INCLUDE THE DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION AND LIFETIME PASS HOLDERS, FAILED TO REACH AN AGREEMENT, MEANING A LIQUATION HEARING IS EXPECTED AT THE HIGH COURT TODAY. WITH US NOW WITH HIS REACTION IS RUAPEHU DISTRICT MAYOR WESTON KIRTON THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. THIS HAS CAUSED A FAIR AMOUNT OF STRESS FOR EVERYONE THAT HAS BEEN INVOLVED. HOW WAS THE COMMUNITY HOLDING UP AFTER YESTERDAY'S DECISION OR ANNOUNCEMENT? VERY CONCERNED OF COURSE. THERE IS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AFTER YESTERDAY'S REACTION. I THINK YOU WILL FIND THAT PEOPLE WILL BE WAKING UP THIS MORNING WITH A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY, WONDERING WHAT THEY WILL BE DOING NEXT. THEY WILL BE WAITING TO SEE WITH INTEREST WHAT THE HIGH COURT DO AND THEN WE HAVE TO START THE PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN. OF COURSE, IT WILL DELAY THE SKI SEASON BEING OPEN AS WE PREDICTED. WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE OPENING AS EARLY AS NEXT WEEK. THAT WILL NOT BE THE CASE, SO WE WILL START AGAIN. THE COUNCIL WILL BE COOPERATING IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE WITHIN THE LIQUIDATORS THAT ARE APPOINTED AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME RESOLUTION WITH A NEW ENTITY. FINGERS ARE CROSSED. I JUST WONDERED ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT THE SKI FIELD IS NOT OPENING AND THE REAL POTENTIAL THAT IT MIGHT NOT OPEN THE SEASON. WHAT THE IMPACT IS ON BUSINESSES AND THE COMMUNITY SURROUNDING THE MOUNTAIN? WHEN IT IS A SEASON OR A GOOD SEASON, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING FROM OVERSEAS AND SKIING INSTRUCTORS AND PEOPLE WORKING ON THE LEFT'S, IT IS SOMETHING LIKE 1500 PEOPLE IN THE AREA ARE WORKING AROUND THE MOUNTAIN. THERE IS AN IMPACT WITH THAT BUT OVERALL, THE ECONOMY IS HUGE. PEOPLE COME INTO THIS AREA WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT WE HAVE A SKI SEASON AND ALL YEAR-ROUND ACTIVITIES. THE ECONOMY IS REALLY SERIOUSLY AFFECTED BY THIS, 13% OF OUR ECONOMY AND OUR TOTAL INCOME FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. FROM A COUNCIL POINT OF VIEW AND A COMMUNITY POINT OF VIEW, IT IS JUST DEVASTATING THAT WE DON'T HAVE A SKI SEASON AND HOPEFULLY WE GET SOMETHING OVER THE LINE IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS. YOU WERE AT ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS THAT WAS HELD YESTERDAY AND I WONDER WHETHER YOU CAN TALK TO ME ABOUT THE ATMOSPHERE THAT WAS THERE, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THERE IS A DIVIDE BETWEEN THE DIRECTORS... AND I WONDERED WHETHER THAT RELATIONSHIP OR LACK OF HAD A REAL IMPACT ON YESTERDAY'S OUTCOME. IT WAS A DIFFICULT MEETING. CERTAINLY PEOPLE WERE VERY ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT UNFOLDED. THERE WAS A LOT OF EXPECTATION FROM BOTH SIDES TO SEE SOMETHING OVER THE LINE. THE STAKEHOLDERS HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS FOR OBVIOUS REASONS AND A LONG HISTORY WITH THE SKI FIELD AND ON THE OTHER SIDE YOU HAVE THE GOVERNMENT... THEY, TOO, HAVE VIEWS ABOUT HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE SKI FIELD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE UNDER A NEW DIRECTORSHIP. YOU HAVE THOSE TWO CAMPS WORKING HARD TO CONVINCE THE PEOPLE VOTING. IT WAS EXTRAORDINARY ATMOSPHERE. THREE MEETINGS GOING SEIBEL TENIA SLEE. AND OF COURSE, THE OUTCOME WAS PRETTY NEUTRAL. THAT JUST GIVES YOU THE INDICATION THAT THE COMMUNITY AND THE PUBLIC ARE SPLIT ON THIS. I GUESS WE JUST NEED TO MOVE ON AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS FROM HERE ON IN. WE WANT TO WORK HARD TO TRY AND GET SOMETHING OVER THE LINE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. TALK TO ME ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS NOW. AS YOU MENTION, THIS MATTER WILL GO BEFORE THE HIGH COURT THIS MORNING AND THE COMPANY WILL BE PUT INTO LIQUIDATION, BUT YOU ARE SAYING LET'S NOT BE SCARED OF LIQUIDATION, BUT THIS IS A CHANCE FOR A GOOD OUTCOME STILL ON THIS MATTER? I WOULD SUM IT UP AS WE ARE DOWN BUT NOT OUT. THE SITUATION HANGS ON THE HIGH COURT TO APPOINT LIQUIDATORS, AND THOSE LIQUIDATORS WILL BE DIFFERENT MEMBERS FROM ACROSS THE ADMINISTRATION. WE GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE IT IS A TYPICAL SITUATION OF LIQUIDATION AND THE ASSETS WILL HAVE TO BE SOLD OFF AS A WHOLE OR IN PART. HOPEFULLY THE BIDDERS ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN SEEN OF LATE. YOU HAVE TO ARGUE THAT THE BIDDERS ARE THE ENVY... THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE PREFERRED BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE GOVERNMENT SUPPORT TO GET THE DEBT, WHICH IS A HUGE IMPLICATION THERE, AND I AM JUST HOPING THAT THEY ARE IN THE MIX OF SEEING SOMETHING OVER THE LINE. IF YOU HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE GOVERNMENT AND MOST OF THE COMMUNITY, THEN HOPEFULLY SOME RESOLUTION FROM THAT SPACE WILL HAPPEN. SO, LIQUIDATION IS NOT JUST PULLING IT ALL DOWN. IT IS A LAST RESORT AND NO ONE WANTS IT. BUT I'M SURE COMMON SENSE WILL PREVAIL AND WE WILL SEE SOMETHING MOVE FORWARD. I SEE THE GLASS HALF FULL. YOU MENTION THE GOVERNMENT THERE. WE HAVE RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE FROM THE GOVERNMENT, BASICALLY SAYING HANDS OFF. ARE YOU HOPEFUL THAT THE GOVERNMENT WILL INTERVENE AT SOME POINT OR SUPPORT AT SOME POINT? ABSOLUTELY. I TOOK TO THE MINISTER A WEEK AGO AND SHE GAVE CONFIDENCE THAT SHE WAS REALLY DETERMINED TO SEE A RESOLUTION HERE. WITH THE NEGOTIATIONS I HAVE HAD... I AM GOING TO SEE THAT PROGRESS AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL CONTINUE WITH THAT NEGOTIATION. WE WILL JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE. FROM WHAT I CAN UNDERSTAND, THAT THE MINISTER KIRI ALLEN, SHE IS SUPPORTIVE. THIS HAS BEEN A STRESSFUL TIME. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE LAST YEAR. HOW ARE YOU GETTING THROUGH IT? HOW IS THE COMMUNITY GETTING THROUGH IT? PRETTY TOUGH, BUT IT IS NOT ALL ABOUT ME. IT IS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE INVESTMENT IN THE GAME. PEOPLE NEED TO GET ON WITH THEIR LIVES AND I REALLY STRESSED OUT AND WE ARE JUST HOPING THAT WE CAN ASSIST WITH THAT. WITH THE COMMUNITY, IT IS SAD TO SEE... PEOPLE HAVING TO MAKE DECISIONS AND DECIDE WHICH WAY THEY WANT TO GO. I AM TALKING TO PEOPLE AND WE CAN ONLY DO OUR BEST. I CAN GIVE THE PUBLIC CERTAINTY THAT WE ARE TRYING OUR BEST TO GET SOMETHING OVER THE LINE. RUAPEHU DISTRICT MAYOR WESTON KIRTON, THANK YOU. WE WISH YOU WELL OVER THE COMING FEW WEEKS AND LET'S HOPE THAT WE SEE THE SKI FIELDS OPEN THE SEASON. E WHAI AKE NEI ` COMING UP ` UNI STUDENTS ARE OUT PROTESTING, BUT IT'S NOT TO DO LESS HOMEWORK. THEY'RE TAKING TO PARLIAMENT TO FIGHT FOR THEIR FUTURES AND THE CRUCIAL ROLE TEACHERS PLAY IN IT. THAT'S NEXT. - The day doesn't begin until we've got our coffee order in. Yup, we've become a nation of coffee snobs, which is why Z's trained baristas use WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. AFTER MONTHS OF STRIKE ACTION FROM TEACHERS, THEIR STUDENTS ARE NOW RALLYING IN SUPPORT. TODAY AT PARLIAMENT LEARNERS WILL PRESENT THEIR DEMANDS FOR BOTH HIGH SCHOOL CONDITIONS BUT ALSO AROUND SUBJECT CUTS AT VICTORIA UNIVERSITY. WITH MORE DETAILS WE'RE JOINED NOW BY STUDENTS KAY STODART AND FELIX HALL. VERY GOOD MORNING TO YOU BOTH. GOOD MORNING. KAY, I AM GOING TO START WITH YOU. WHY THE DECISION NOW TO COME OUT IN SUPPORT OF TEACHERS? WHY THE DECISION FROM STUDENTS AND YOU IN PARTICULAR TO SAY, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? IT'S HARD WALKING INTO A SCHOOL AND SEEING ALL OF YOUR TEACHERS BURNT OUT. THEY AREN'T ABLE TO GIVE THE ONE-ON-ONE SUPPORT TO STUDENTS, THEY AREN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE CULTURAL NEEDS, AND HEARING TEACHERS TALK ABOUT STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET IS HEARTBREAKING AND IT DOES AFFECT STUDENTS OUTCOMES. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. THE STUDENT OUTCOMES ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU. YOU HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT UNIVERSITY ACCESS, IF YOU ARE NOT GETTING YOUR GRADES, NEW ZEALAND UNIVERSITIES MIGHT NOT UNDERSTAND BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WISH TO TRAVEL OVERSEAS, THEY MIGHT NOT BE SO FORGIVING WHEN IT COMES TO LOOKING BACK AT YOUR GRADES. IS THAT A DEEP CONCERN TO A NUMBER OF STUDENTS? IT IS, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE STUDENTS, PARTICULARLY IN THE SCIENCE AREA, LOOKING TO STUDY OVERSEAS OR A COUPLE OF STUDENTS TRYING TO GO TO AMERICA AND STUDENTS THAT ARE WANTING TO DO THAT, THEY DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, BECAUSE THE GREAT AREN'T GOING TO BE HIGH AND NOT BECAUSE OF THE INDUSTRIAL ACTION. WE KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN SO MUCH DISRUPTION FOR STUDENTS YOUR AGE. WE HAVE HAD COVID-19 INTERRUPTIONS, YOU SAID YOU HAVE MISSED AROUND FIVE OR SIX DAYS ALREADY DUE TO THE STRIKE ACTION. WHEN YOU SPEAK TO YOUR TEACHERS, THEY UNDERSTANDING OF THE STUDENTS POSITION AS WELL? DO THEY HAVE SYMPATHY FOR THE POSITION THIS PUTS YOU IN? THEY ARE. THEY UNDERSTAND IT IS HARD AND IT IS NOT AN IDEAL POSITION. STUDENTS HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE WORKFLOW BECAUSE THINGS ARE CRAMMED INTO ONE LESSON. BUT TEACHERS ARE HAVING TO CRAM EVERYTHING INTO ONE LESSON AND WORK HARDER TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE STILL PASSES. A HARD ENOUGH JOB AS IT IS. VICTORIA HAS FOUND THEMSELVES IN A BIT OF A PICKLE HERE. THEY ARE LOOKING AT JOB CUTS ACROSS THE TEACHING STAFF, AND THAT MEANS COURSES AND SUBJECTS MAY BE CUT ALSO. WHAT IS YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT COURSES OR SUBJECTS MAY BE AFFECTED BY THIS CUTS? AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE IS A LIST OF ABOUT ALMOST 60 SUBJECTS WHICH ARE UNDER REVIEW PRESENTLY. AND I THINK IT IS COMING OUT THIS WEEK ON WHAT DECISION HAS BEEN MADE ON WHAT COURSES TO CUT AND BY HOW MUCH. THAT AS YOU SAY, IT IS ABOUT 250 PEOPLE BEING CUT WHICH AMOUNTS TO 30 TO 40% OF THE STAFF. FOR A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS WHETHER CUTS ARE HAPPENING, IT IS NOT FEASIBLE TO CUT THAT MANY STAFF AND STILL HAVE THE PROGRAM RUN FINANCIALLY. THE SCIENCE PROGRAM FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY DISTRIBUTED THE CUTS EVENLY ACROSS THE DEPARTMENTS, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CONTINUE FUNCTIONING AS AN INSTITUTION. WE HAVE HEARD FROM KAY ABOUT THE MESSAGING COMING FROM THE STUDENT BODY, WHAT ABOUT THOSE STUDENTS AT VICTORIA UNIVERSITY? IS THERE WIDESPREAD CONCERN ABOUT THESE POLICIES AND THESE UPCOMING CUTS? ABSOLUTELY. I THINK IT IS ESPECIALLY STRONG AMONG THE SUBJECT WITH IS THAT RISK OF EITHER INDIVIDUAL COURSES BEING CUT OR UNCERTAINTY BEING INCREASED. BUT ALSO JUST IN GENERAL THERE IS A FEELING OF THIS MAY BE SOMETHING WE SEE CONTINUED. THIS MIGHT NOT BE THE ONLY CUT, BUT IF WE ARE STARTING WITH 13 OR 14%, IT KIND OF SEEMS TO BE ALL DOWNHILL FROM HERE. BUT I THINK THE MAIN THING IS THE CONCERN THAT THESE CAPABILITIES FOR RESEARCH AND FOR TEACHING THAT HAVE BUILT UP OVER DECADES AND DECADES, IF WE/THEM ALL NOW BECAUSE OF SOME FINANCIAL HARDSHIP, THEN THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND THOSE AREAS OF KNOWLEDGE ARE NO LONGER THERE. EVEN IF THIS IS A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION, ULTIMATELY, IT IS GOING TO TAKE MUCH LONGER TO REPAIR. TO REBUILD THEIR EXPERTISE. I UNDERSTAND. THE PROTEST HEADS TO PARLIAMENT TODAY, I AM SURE YOU WILL BE AT THE FRONT OF THE QUEUE. TELL US ABOUT THE PLAN FOR THE PROTEST TODAY? IT IS AT PARLIAMENT GROUNDS FROM 12.30. WE WILL HAVE AN OPENING CUTTER CARE BEFORE LAUNCHING INTO A LIST OF SPEAKERS AND ENDING WITH AN OPEN MIC TO ALLOW STUDENTS FROM AROUND THE REGION TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS. WOULD YOU EXPECT THE EDUCATION MINISTER TO MEET YOU THERE? IT WOULD BE NICE IF SHE DID, HOWEVER SHE HASN'T REPLIED TO OUR EMAIL INVITING HER TO SPEAK. STUDENTS KAY STODART AND FELIX HALL, GOOD LUCK TO YOU BOTH AND GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR CONTINUED STUDIES AS WELL. ME U TONU MAI ` WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK AFTER THE BREAK WITH YOUR 6.30 NEWS. PLUS AFTER 7 O'CLOCK THIS MORNING ` TIME IS RUNNING OUT FOR THOSE ON THE TITANIC SUBMERSIBLE ` WE ASK A FORMER NAVY ADMIRAL IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO FIND THE SHIP. WITH AT BEST LESS THAN 40 HOURS OF OXYGEN LEFT, SEARCH TEAMS ARE RACING AGAINST TIME TO RESCUE FIVE PASSENGERS ONBOARD A MISSING SUBMERSIBLE IN THE ATLANTIC. THE UNDERWATER VESSEL DISAPPEARED DURING AN EXPEDITION TO THE WRECK OF THE TITANIC, WHICH IS ABOUT 640KM OFF THE CANADIAN COAST AND 3,800M DEEP. CONTACT WAS LOST ON MONDAY, AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES INTO ITS DIVE. THE U.S. COAST GUARD SAYS THE SEARCH IS VERY COMPLEX. OUR CREWS ARE WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO LOCATE THE TITAN AND THE FIVE CREWMEMBERS. YESTERDAY WE SOUGHT EXPERTISE FROM THE UNITED STATES COAST GUARD, NAVY, CANADIAN ARMED FORCES AND COAST GUARD, AND THE TITANS PARENT COMPANY OCEAN GATE EXPEDITIONS. THIS IS A COMPLEX SEARCH EFFORT THAT INVOLVES MULTIPLE AGENCIES AND SPECIALISED EQUIPMENT. THE COAST GUARD HAS NOW EXPANDED ITS SEARCH FOR THE MISSING SUB, DEPLOYING RESOURCES TO DEEPER AREAS. PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES ARE 'BLEEDING' IN THE RUAPEHU DISTRICT, ACCORDING TO ITS MAYOR, FOLLOWING THE NEWS MT RUAPEHU'S SKI FIELDS WILL GO INTO LIQUIDATION. IT FOLLOWS A MEETING WITH CREDITORS YESTERDAY. MAYOR WESTON KIRTON SAYS PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE SCARED OF THE TERM 'LIQUIDATION' AND SAYS THE COMMUNITY ARE NOW BYSTANDERS TO THE PROCESS. VERY CONCERNED, OF COURSE. THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY. AND, JUST` YESTERDAY'S REACTION WAS JUST HUGE. AND I THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT PEOPLE WILL BE WAKING UP THIS MORNING WITH A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY, WONDERING WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING NEXT. THEY'LL BE WAITING WITH INTEREST TO SEE WHAT THE HIGH COURT DO WITH THE LIQUIDATORS. THE LIQUIDATION HEARING WILL BE HELD AT THE HIGH COURT IN AUCKLAND AND THE GOVERNMENT HAS SIGNALLED IT WON'T BE STEPPING IN TO HELP. AFTER MONTHS OF EDUCATION STRIKES, STUDENTS ARE EXPECTED TO PROTEST IN THEIR FAVOUR. LEARNERS WILL GATHER AT PARLIAMENT TODAY WITH AN ARRAY OF DEMANDS FOR THE EDUCATION SECTOR, INCLUDING BETTER SECONDARY SCHOOL TEACHING CONDITIONS AND STOPPING SUBJECT CUTS AT VICTORIA UNIVERSITY. UNI STUDENT FELIX HALL SAYS AROUND 13% OF STAFF ARE EXPECTED TO BE CUT DUE TO BUDGET HOLES, AND IT ISN'T FEASIBLE. THESE ARE CAPABILITIES FOR RESEARCH AND FOR TEACHING THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP OVER DECADES AND DECADES. IF WE/THEM ALL NOW BECAUSE OF SOME FINANCIAL HARDSHIP, THAN THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND THOSE AREAS ARE NO LONGER THERE. EVEN IF THIS IS A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION, ULTIMATELY, IT IS GOING TO TAKE MUCH LONGER TO REPAIR. THE PROTEST WILL TAKE PLACE ON PARLIAMENT LAWNS AT 12.30 TODAY. FINANCIAL LOSSES FROM CYBER CRIME IS UP BY 66% ACCORDING TO THE LATEST REPORT FROM CERT NZ. THAT MEANS IN THE LAST QUARTER, NEW ZEALANDERS LOST $6 MILLION TO SCAMS, WITH THE NUMBER OF SCAM REPORTS CONTINUING TO RISE. THE REPORT SUGGESTS AFTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS BEING USED TO CREATE MORE CONVINCING SCAMS, MAKING IT HARDER FOR PEOPLE TO DETECT. CERT NZ URGES KIWIS TO REMAIN VIGILANT ONLINE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ENCOUNTER INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT SEEM TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE. AUCKLAND HAS CLAIMED THE HIGHEST MEDIAN WEEKLY RENTAL PRICE IN THE COUNTRY AT $660. TRADE ME'S LATEST DATA SHOWS ACROSS THE MOTU PRICES HAVE REACHED A NEW HIGH, WITH AN AVERAGE OF $610 WEEKLY IN THE MONTH OF MAY. THAT'S $35 MORE A WEEK THAN THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR. TRADE ME SAYS GOVERNMENT TAX POLICIES AND INTEREST RATES ARE AMONG THE FACTORS IMPACTING THE MARKET. TO SPORT, AND THE QATAR FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION HAS TURNED ALLEGATIONS OF RACIAL ABUSE BACK ON THE ALL WHITES, CLAIMING THEY WERE THE VICTIMS OF ABUSE. THE NEW ZEALAND PLAYERS REFUSED TO PLAY THE SECOND HALF OF THE MATCH AFTER OFFICIALS FAILED TO ACT ON ACCUSATIONS A RACIAL SLUR WAS DIRECTED AT DEFENDER MICHAEL BOXALL. IN A STATEMENT, THE QFA ADMITTED THERE WAS AN EXCHANGE OF WORDS BUT STRESSED NO RACIAL OR DISCRIMINATORY LANGUAGE WAS USED. THE QATARI PLAYER INVOLVED THEN CLAIMED HE WAS RACIALLY ABUSED DURING THE MATCH. AUSTRALIA HAVE CLAIMED THE FIRST ASHES TEST, WINNING BY TWO WICKETS. TAIL-ENDERS PAT CUMMINS AND NATHAN LYON COMBINING FOR A VITAL 55 RUNS TO GUIDE AUSTRALIA HOME. HE'S TAKEN THE EDGE. THERE'LL BE ONE. CUMMINS WILL COME BACK TO TWO. OH! HE'S KNOCKED IT OVER THE BOUNDARY EDGE! AND AUSTRALIA ARE HOME. THE SECOND TEST WILL BE PLAYED AT LORD'S IN LONDON. ARE YOU GOING THERE, SCOTTY? I WOULD LOVE TO GO TO LORDS. YOU LIKE WATCHING TEST CRICKET, HEY? HAVE YOU COME AROUND? ABF WAS CHEWING HER NAILS. I HAVE BEEN TO A 20/20... IS THAT WHAT IT IS CALLED? CURRENT AFFAIRS. EVERY DAY IS A SCHOOL DAY. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING ` TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY ` A RAINY START UP HERE. THIS BECOMES HEAVY AND THUNDERY IN THE AFTERNOON FOR SOME OF YOU. 16 THE HIGH IN KAITAIA. FURTHER SOUTH ` CLOUDY FOR YOU WITH SCATTERED SHOWERS. EXPECT THIS RAIN TO BUILD AND BECOME HEAVIER INTO YOUR EVENING. 17 THE HIGH FOR TAURANGA. TO THE EAST COAST ` YOU'LL GET A MOSTLY FINE MORNING. RAIN DEVELOPING INTO THE AFTERNOON, HEAVY FOR GISBORNE. 15 THE HIGH FOR MOST OF YOU. OVER TO THE WEST ` LOOKING VERY DIFFERENT HERE. NEW PLYMOUTH AND TAUMARANUI GET SOME HIGH CLOUD BUT EVERYONE ELSE WILL ENJOY BLUE SKIES. WHANGANUI ` YOUR HIGH IS 19. TO THE SOUTH ISLAND ` SIMILAR HERE. EXPECT THE ODD SHOWER IN NELSON THIS MORNING. LOOKING FINE FOR EVERYONE ELSE. 17 THE HIGH IN WESTPORT. HEADING SOUTH ` A VERY CLOUDY START TO YOUR MORNING. EXPECT THIS HIGH CLOUD TO LINGER INTO THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING. 12 THE HIGH FOR TIMARU. TO THE DEEP SOUTH ` YOU'LL WAKE UP TO HIGH CLOUD THIS MORNING. THIS WILL CLEAR TO A BEAUTIFUL AFTERNOON FOR MOST OF YOU. QUEENSTOWN ` YOUR HIGH IS 10. WHAT A TOWN. WHAT A TOWN. GUESS WHAT? YOU WILL BE EXCITED ABOUT THIS. THE NEXT ASHES TEST IS LIVE ON TVNZ PLUS. FREE TO AIR. I AM EXCITED FOR YOU ABOUT THAT. I AM ASSUMING YOU WILL BE PART OF THE COMMENTARY TEAM. I WILL NOT BE. I WILL BE SITTING THERE WATCHING. I AM PUMPED ABOUT THE STATE OF ORIGIN TO DATE. UP THE BLUES. ARE WE DIVIDED? YES, WE ARE DIVIDED. JUST TELL ME YOU NEED SOMEONE ON YOUR TEAM, AND I WILL BE HERE FOR YOU. THANKS, ABF. YOU HAVE AN INTERVIEW COMING UP JUST AFTER THE BREAK, AND WE ACTUALLY COVER THIS IN YOUR NEWS. THE AMOUNT OF SCAMS ARE INCREASING. WE HAVE MOVED ON FROM NIGERIAN PRINCES. SERIOUSLY, $6 MILLION NEW ZEALAND IS LOST IN THE FIRST QUARTER. IT IS GOING UP, INSTEAD OF DOWN. ALL OF THIS CHAT WE DO ABOUT SCAMS, BUT IT GOT US THINKING ` HOW OFTEN HAVE YOU NEARLY FALLEN FOR A SCAM? YOU THOUGHT, I WILL GO ALONG WITH US, AND YOU STOPPED AT THE RIGHT MOMENT, AND THOUGHT, I AM NOT GOING TO GET TRACKED BY THIS. I HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF THIS JUST THE OTHER DAY WITH A FAMILY MEMBER WHO WAS IN A PANIC OVER HAD THEY PUSHED THE WRONG THING, HOW THEY CLICKED A LINK THEY SHOULD NOT CLICK? IT IS THE SOPHISTICATION OF THESE SCAMS THAT IS THE GREATEST CONCERN. WE GET THEM AT WORK ALL THE TIME ` THEY ARE TRYING TO TEST US AT WORK. I FAILED THAT. ME TOO. TWICE. YOU HAVE TO GO ON A COURSE IF YOU FAIL AT. YOU HAVE TO GO AND GET SOME EDUCATION IF YOU CLICK THAT LINK. IT IS A SHOPPING LINK. YOU GUYS GOT SUCKED IN. I WAS SO TEMPTED, AND THEN I THINK... I KNOW I HAVE BOUGHT SOMETHING, BUT IS IT THIS? IT IS A TEST. IF YOU FAIL AT ONCE, THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE. THAT IS NOT THE CASE FOR THOSE OUT THERE WHO ARE CLICKING THOSE LINKS AND LOSING MONEY, IT IS A HUGE CONCERN. I FAILED TWICE. THERE ARE SO MANY TOLL ROADS, AND MY WIFE ALWAYS GOES TO THE TOLL ROADS AND FORGETS TO PAY. I GOT AN ALERT SAYING YOU HAVE OVERDUE TOLLS, AND I SEND IT TO HER SAYING YOU NEED TO PAY THIS FINE, AND THEN I THOUGHT I DID NOT LOOK AT THE LINK. I NEARLY GOT SCAMMED. I SAID, DO NOT, DELETE IT. WERE YOU LIKE SAM? ALMOST SCAMMED? ME U TONU MAI ` STAY WITH US ` IS THIS THE FUTURE OF SCAMMERS? THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. HOW ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS FORCING US TO BECOME SMARTER TOO. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. SCAMS AND SCAMMERS ARE GETTING SMARTER, AND DESPITE ALL THE WARNINGS, THEY'RE GETTING MORE OF OUR MONEY THAN EVER, THANKS TO THE HELP OF AI. DOES AVOIDING CYBER CRIME MEAN BEING SMARTER THAN THE MACHINE? FOR MORE WE'RE JOINED BY CERT NZ'S DIRECTOR ROB POPE. MORENA. THESE ARE SOME WHOPPER FIGURES, AREN'T THEY? GOOD MORNING. THEY ARE. WHAT THE FIGURES SHOW TO DATE IS THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO SEE INCREASES IN REPORTING, BUT EQUALLY QUITE SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN FINANCIAL LOSSES, NOT TO MENTION DATA AND PERSONAL DETAILS AS WELL. THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF SCAMS HAS FALLEN A LITTLE BIT, BUT YET THE LOSSES WAS IN THE REGION OF $6 MILLION ` IS THAT A CHANGE IN THE SOPHISTICATION LEVEL OF THE SCAM? IT IS DIFFICULT TO SAY. THERE DEFINITELY IS A TREND TOWARDS MORE SOPHISTICATED APPROACHES TO SCAMMING ` THE METHODOLOGIES ARE THE SAME, BUT IT IS THE TOOLS THEY ARE USING, SUCH AS AI THAT ARE MUCH MORE CLEVER, AND THEN LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATION BEFORE THE BREAK, YOU WILL VERY FAMILIAR WITH THEM, WE HAVE BEEN SATURATED WITH CONSISTENT AND CONSTANT ATTACKS ACROSS ALL COMMUNITIES. TALK ME THROUGH THE CONCEPT OF AI, AND HOW IT IS BEING USED IN THESE SCAMS. AI IS JUST A TOOL WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY MAKES IT EASIER FOR SCAMMERS AND FASTER FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY USE THEIR METHODS. THAT TRANSLATES INTO THINGS LIKE MORE REALISTIC AND ERROR-FREE SCRIPTS IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES FOR PHISHING, WHICH IS STILL A MAJOR THREAT FOR NEW ZEALANDERS. YOU GET LESS GRAMMATICAL ERRORS. IT IS LESS EASY TO DETECT. WE ARE SEEING IMAGE GENERATORS WHERE PEOPLE BELIEVE THEY ARE SPEAKING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE REAL, AND PEOPLE BEING SUCKED INTO A SCAM. OR MORE DESCRIPTIVE AND MORE REALISTIC CONVERSATIONS GENERATED, WHICH WE HAVE SEEN IN TERMS OF MORE REALISTIC AND QUITE SOPHISTICATED INVESTMENT SCAMS. YOU TALKED JUST THEN` SORRY. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT INVESTMENT SCAMS, AND I HAVE SEEN QUITE A BIT OF COVERAGE ABOUT THIS. WE HEAR LESS ABOUT THE NIGERIAN PRINCES, AND MORE ABOUT PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY ARE TALKING TO THEIR BANK. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. THAT IS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF JUST HOW FAR THESE SCAMMERS HAVE SHIFTED, IN TERMS OF ATTACKING DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, BUSINESSES AND INDIVIDUALS. THESE INVESTMENT SCAMS ` THIS QUARTER, WE HAVE HAD 16 ` EIGHT OF THOSE HAVE INVOLVED AMOUNTS OF OVER $100,000. LOWER VOLUMES DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN LESS IMPACT. WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS VERY TARGETED APPROACHES WITH VERY SOPHISTICATED SCAMS AROUND PROSPECTUSES AND ENCOURAGEMENT TO INVEST IN PARTICULAR SCHEMES. THAT IS A WORRY FOR US ALL. THEY ARE ACTUALLY LANDING SOME BIG FISH. MAKING IT MORE REALISTIC IS REAPING THE REWARDS FOR THEM. I DO NOT ASK YOU TO PREDICT OR CRYSTAL BALL GAZE, BUT DO YOU SEE WHAT THE NEXT STEP MIGHT BE? HOW DO WE STAY ONE STEP AHEAD? AI ` THERE IS NO DOUBT OVER TIME THAT AI WILL BE OF SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT TO NEW ZEALAND'S ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL WELL-BEING, BUT THE TECHNOLOGY SIDE INDICATES THAT IT IS A GOOD BET THAT THE CRIMINALS WILL MAKE USE OF IT AS WELL. WE ACTUALLY HAVE NOT SEEN ANY CREDIBLE EVIDENCE OF AI BEING USED IN NEW ZEALAND YET, SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO WRITE ADVICE TO PEOPLE TO JUST TAKE SOME SIMPLE STEPS WHICH WILL ACTUALLY AVOID GETTING SUCKED IN BY THIS LATEST WAVE OF NEW TOOLS AND TECHNOLOGY. THE THING ABOUT AI IS THAT IT REQUIRES STUFF TO BE FED INTO IT. IF IT DOES NOT FEED AND, DOES NOT GENERATE ALL OF THE NECESSARY DATA. PEOPLE SHOULD BE WARY OF AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE A LINK THAT DOES NOT SEEM QUITE KOSHER. IF YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO INVEST IN A SCAM VIA WHATSAPP ` ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE SIGNS THAT MAYBE YOU ARE BEING INVEIGLED INTO SOME SORT OF SCAM, AND AIS JUST CONTINUOUSLY GENERATING THAT. SIMPLE STEPS WILL GO A LONG WAY TO ACTUALLY INSURING THAT FINANCIAL SECURITY IS WHERE IT SHOULD BE, AND YOUR PERSONAL DATA AND PERSONAL DETAILS IS ALSO BEING LOOKED AFTER. I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY NOTE ` THE CONCEPT WOULD BE DO NOT LET ANYONE SELL YOU ANYTHING ON THE INTERNET. IF YOU SEE YOUR BANK IS OFFERING YOU SOMETHING THAT LOOKS AMAZING, LOOK AT IT, AND THEN YOU CALL THE BANK YOURSELF. DO NOT LET ANYONE APPROACH YOU ABOUT IT. MOST CERTAINLY. OUR ADVICE AS TO TRIPLE CHECK EVERYTHING, IF YOU ARE NOT SURE, THINK BEFORE YOU ACT. ONE POINT AROUND INVESTMENT SCAMS ` IT SHOWS THAT THESE ARE THOSE OF US ARE GATED NOW THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN PEOPLE GOING TO THE SCAM SITES, NOT ACTUALLY THE SCAM SITES PROACTIVELY APPROACHING. THEY ARE MUCH MORE SOPHISTICATED. THE CAVEAT ` BE VERY AWARE AND WARY OF WHAT IT IS YOU ARE ACTUALLY BUYING INTO. OR HOPEFULLY NOT BUYING INTO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WISE WORDS THIS MORNING. THANK YOU. WE ARE ALREADY GETTING LOTS OF FEEDBACK. WE'RE GETTING QUITE A FEW ON THE TOLLS SCAM. I AM ON MY FINAL NOTICE OF THE TOLL SCAM, I HAVE HAD ABOUT FOUR. IF I DID NOT DRIVE, I MIGHT HAVE FALLEN FOR IT. I NEITHER DRIVE NOR HAVE A CAR. HE HAS BEEN SAVED FROM A LUCKY NON-DRIVER. HERE IS THE THING ` ROB WAS SAYING IN THAT INTERVIEW, IT IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE SOPHISTICATED. I HAVE HAD PEOPLE STILL MESSAGING ME ABOUT MY INVESTMENT PORTFOLIOS, APPARENTLY... ARE THEY GOING WELL? THAT IS A QUESTION I KEEP BEING ASKED. THEY LOOK GREAT, BUT THE END RESULT SEEMS TERRIBLE. WE ARE BEING SCAMMED. $6 MILLION ALREADY THIS YEAR. SUE SAYS I TRAVEL FREQUENTLY TO AUSTRALIA AND I GOT A MESSAGE ON MY PHONE SAYING I OWE TOLLS. WE ARE ASKING YOU THIS MORNING ` IS THERE A SCAM YOU ALMOST CLICKED ON TO AND WERE SCAMMED? SCOTTY AND I ARE HOPELESS. BUT WE ARE GETTING BETTER. YOU FAILED IT TWICE. YES. WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. IF YOUR BOSS EMAILS YOU, DO NOT REPLY. IT COULD BE A SCAM. GREAT ADVICE. TRY THAT THIS MORNING AND SEE HOW YOU GO. DO NOT REPLY. E HAERE AKE NEI ` AFTER 7 O'CLOCK THIS MORNING ` WE MEET A MAN WHO'S BEEN ON THE TITANIC SUBMERSIBLE THAT'S GONE MISSING AND THE CONCERNS HE RAISED ABOUT IT OVER A YEAR AGO. AND OUR FRIEND MATT GIBB CONTINUES THE TRIP OF A LIFETIME. MORENA, MATT. WHERE ARE YOU TODAY? MORENA. TALOFA. I AM COMING TO YOU LIVE FROM THE CAPITAL CITY OF SAMOA, APIA. WHERE AT THE SAMOAN CULTURAL VILLAGE. GET YOURSELF IN THE DRAW IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY. SEE YOU AFTER THIS. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. 12 ISLANDS PEEKING ABOVE THE CLEAR TURQUOISE WATERS OF THE CENTRAL SOUTH PACIFIC ` THE TROPICAL ISLANDS OF SAMOA ARE A PARADISE OF CULTURE, SERENE LANDSCAPES, AND UNIQUE ACTIVITIES. SO, WE'VE PARTNERED WITH SAMOA TOURISM TO GIVE YOU THIS EXPERIENCE AND SENT OUR FRIEND MATT GIBB TO EXPLORE THE ISLAND PARADISE. MATT, IT LOOKS AN ABSOLUTE PICTURE. HOW ARE YOU GETTING ON? THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE BEST WEEKS OF MY LIFE. IT IS AN INCREDIBLE EXPERIENCE. I HAVE TO ENCOURAGE ANYONE THAT IS IN THE PRIVILEGED POSITION TO BE ABLE TO PLAN A HOLIDAY TO PUT SAMOA AT THE TOP OF YOUR LIST. HOW ARE YOU? I AM FEELING GREAT. YOU ARE LOOKING GOOD ON CAMERA. TELL ME A BIT ABOUT WHERE WE ARE. THIS IS THE SAMOA CULTURAL VILLAGE. THE CULTURE VILLAGE, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DIFFERENTLY PEOPLE SHOULD DO TO GET A TASTE OF THE CULTURE. WHEN IT COMES TO US, THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES OUR COUNTRY BETTER THAN OTHER COUNTRIES, IT IS THE CULTURE. I WANT YOU GUYS TO SEE IT. YOU HAVE A READY SEEN A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL BEACHES. YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE CULTURE. THIS IS THE BEST PLACE WHERE YOU COULD BE. WHAT KIND OF THINGS CAN PEOPLE EXPERIENCE WHEN THEY COME HERE? WE TEACH YOU ABOUT HOW WE WEAVE, HOW WE CLIMB THE TREES, HOW WE DO FIRE DANCERS. COOKING, TATTOO, EVERYTHING. THERE IS NO OTHER QUESTION YOU ARE GOING TO ASK. YOU ARE GOING TO LEARN EVERYTHING. YOU WERE BORN TO BE ON TELEVISION. YOU ARE DOING SOME TRADITIONAL WEAVING AT THE MOMENT. WHAT ARE YOU WEAVING? IT IS A WOVEN PLATE MADE FROM COCONUT LEAVES. IT IS ALSO KNOWN AS THE TREE OF LIFE. BEFORE THE INTRODUCTION... THIS IS HOW OUR ANCESTORS USED TO WEAVE A PLATE IN THE ANCIENT TIMES USING THE COCONUT LEAVES. USING THE COCONUT LEAVES, YOU CAN MAKE A HEADPIECE JUST LIKE THE ONE ON MY HEAD. A PLATE LOOKS LIKE THIS, OR A BASKET, OR TOYS FOR THE KIDS. IT IS ALL MADE FROM COCONUT LEAVES. SO PEOPLE CAN COME AND GET A DEMONSTRATION OF THE WEAVING IF THEY COME HERE. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE MOST OF THESE ITEMS. YOU NEED TO GET YOURSELF IN THE DRAW FOR THE COMPETITION THIS WEEK. ALL THIS WEEK ON BREAKFAST... SEVEN NIGHTS STAYING AT A BEAUTIFUL COMMENDATION IN SAMOA. IT IS AN $8000 VALUED PRIZE. GET IN THE DRAWER BEFORE 4 PM ON THURSDAY. BEFORE WE GO, I HAVE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT... THE TRADITIONAL TATTOO. DID YOU KNOW THAT THIS WAS TRADITIONALLY FROM SOME MOWER? STARTING OFF... YOU NEED TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE AT THE SAME TIME. THAT IS WHERE THE WORD TATOO CAME FROM. I WOULD LOVE TO GET A LITTLE MORE SENSE ON THE MEANING BEHIND AS WELL. THAT WILL BE LATER ON IN THE SHOW. WE WILL COME BACK IN AN HOURS TIME. I CAN'T BELIEVE I HAVE TO GO HOME AND I AM LEAVING THIS AFTERNOON. I AM DEVASTATED. THE U.S COAST GUARD HAS EXPANDED ITS SEARCH FOR THE MISSING SUBMERSIBLE IN THE ATLANTIC OCEAN INTO DEEPER WATERS. WITH, AT BEST, LESS THAN 40 HOURS OF OXYGEN LEFT, SEARCH TEAMS ARE RACING TO RESCUE FIVE PASSENGERS ON BOARD THE UNDERWATER VESSEL. THE SUB DISAPPEARED DURING AN EXPEDITION TO THE WRECK OF THE TITANIC, WHICH IS ABOUT 640KM OFF THE CANADIAN COAST AND 3800M DEEP. CONTACT WAS LOST ON MONDAY, AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES INTO ITS DIVE. EXPERTS SAY THE SEARCH IS VERY COMPLEX. IT'S FINDING A NEEDLE IN A HAYSTACK. FOR US, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ARE ABOVE THE SURFACE, WE CAN USE GPS, WE CAN USE RADAR. WE CAN USE RADIO. THERE IS NOTHING LIKE THAT THAT WE CAN USE BELOW THE SEA BECAUSE SIMPLY PUT, THE ELECTROMAGNETIC FREQUENCIES ` THE ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVES ` DO NOT PROPAGATE FAR UNDER THE SEA. AND IN A FEW MINUTES, WE'LL BE TALKING TO A MAN WHO HAS BEEN ON THE SUBMERSIBLE HIMSELF. NEW ZEALANDERS ARE BEING SATURATED WITH 'CONSISTENT AND CONSTANT' CYBER CRIME ATTACKS. ACCORDING TO CERT NZ, ALMOST $6M HAS BEEN LOST IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF THIS YEAR. THAT'S A 66% RISE IN FINANCIAL LOSSES. THE CYBER SECURITY FIRMS LATEST REPORT SUGGESTS ONLINE CON ARTISTS WILL LIKELY USE A.I TO CREATE MORE COMPLEX AND CONVINCING SCAMS AS THE TECHNOLOGY DEVELOPS. THAT TRANSLATES INTO THINGS LIKE... MORE REALISTIC SCRIPTS IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES, WHICH IS STILL A MAJOR THREAT FOR NEW ZEALANDERS. YOU GET LESS GRAMMATICAL ERRORS, SO IT IS LESS EASY TO DETECT. CERT NZ IS URGING NEW ZEALANDERS TO BE VIGILANT AND EXTRA CAUTIOUS WHEN SEEING INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITIES ONLINE. SKILLED WORKERS WILL NOW HAVE A MORE SIMPLIFIED PATHWAY TO RESIDENCY. THE GOVERNMENT'S ANNOUNCED A SIX POINT SYSTEM WILL BE INTRODUCED FROM OCTOBER WHICH ALLOCATES POINTS TO MIGRANTS BASED ON THEIR JOB, QUALIFICATIONS OR INCOME. MIGRANTS CAN ALSO EARN A POINT FOR EVERY YEAR OF WORK IN NEW ZEALAND THEY COMPLETE IN A SKILLED JOB. THE CAP ON SKILLED MIGRANTS HAS ALSO BEEN DITCHED, WITH THE HOPE BUSINESSES FACING SKILL SHORTAGES CAN ATTRACT MORE WORKERS. AROUND 13% OF THE TOTAL INCOME FOR RUAPEHU'S ECONOMY WILL BE SERIOUSLY EFFECTED BY THE DECISION TO PUT MOUNT RUAPEHU'S SKI FIELDS GO INTO LIQUIDATION. IT FOLLOWS FAILED OUTCOMES FROM A MEETING WITH CREDITORS YESTERDAY. MAYOR WESTON KIRTON SAYS IT IS DEVASTATING FOR THE COMMUNITY, WHO WILL BE WAKING UP TODAY WITH A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AND ANXIETY. OF COURSE IT'LL DELAY THE SKI SEASON BEING OPENED AS WE PREDICTED` WE THOUGHT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OPENING AS EARLY AS NEXT WEEK ` THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE THE CASE, SO WE'VE GOT TO START ALL OVER AGAIN. WE AS A COUNCIL WILL BE COOPERATING IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE WITH ANY LIQUIDATORS THAT ARE APPOINTED, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME RESOLUTION WITH A NEW ENTITY, I GUESS. THE GOVERNMENT HAS SIGNALLED IT WON'T BE STEPPING IN TO HELP AHEAD OF TODAY'S LIQUIDATION HEARING AT THE HIGH COURT IN AUCKLAND. UNIVERSITY AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WILL SHOW SUPPORT FOR THEIR EDUCATORS TODAY. LEARNERS WILL PROTEST AT PARLIAMENT WITH A LIST OF DEMANDS FOR THE EDUCATION SECTOR. SECONDARY SCHOOL STUDENT KAY STODART SAYS THE CURRENT SITUATION IS NOT IDEAL FOR TEACHERS OR STUDENTS, ESPECIALLY WITH RECENT STRIKES. A LOT OF THE STUDENTS, PARTICULARLY IN THE SCIENCES, LOOK INTO STUDYING OVERSEAS ` THE UNIVERSITY OF SYDNEY, OR A COUPLE OF STUDENTS TRY AND GO TO AMERICA, AND STUDENTS THAT ARE WANTING TO DO THAT ` THEY DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THEIR GRADES AREN'T GOING TO BE HIGH ENOUGH BECAUSE OF THE INDUSTRIAL ACTION. LEARNERS WILL GATHER AT PARLIAMENT AT 12.30PM. TO SPORT AND THE QATAR FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION HAS DENIED ANY RACIAL COMMENTS WERE DIRECTED AT ANY ALL WHITES PLAYERS DURING THEIR ABANDONED FRIENDLY YESTERDAY MORNING, INSTEAD CLAIMING THEY WERE THE VICTIMS OF ABUSE. THE NEW ZEALAND PLAYERS REFUSED TO PLAY THE SECOND HALF OF THE MATCH AFTER OFFICIALS FAILED TO ACT ON CLAIMS A RACIAL SLUR WAS AIMED AT DEFENDER MICHAEL BOXALL. IN A STATEMENT, THE QFA ADMITTED THERE WAS AN EXCHANGE OF WORDS BUT STRESSED NO RACIAL OR DISCRIMINATORY LANGUAGE WAS USED. THE QATARI PLAYER INVOLVED THEN CLAIMED HE WAS RACIALLY ABUSED DURING THE MATCH. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING ` TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY ` A RAINY START UP HERE. THIS BECOMES HEAVY AND THUNDERY IN THE AFTERNOON FOR SOME OF YOU. 16 THE HIGH IN KAITAIA. FURTHER SOUTH ` CLOUDY FOR YOU WITH SCATTERED SHOWERS. EXPECT THIS RAIN TO BUILD AND BECOME HEAVIER INTO YOUR EVENING. 17 THE HIGH FOR TAURANGA. TO THE EAST COAST ` YOU'LL GET A MOSTLY FINE MORNING. RAIN DEVELOPING INTO THE AFTERNOON, HEAVY FOR GISBORNE. 15 THE HIGH FOR MOST OF YOU. OVER TO THE WEST ` LOOKING VERY DIFFERENT HERE. NEW PLYMOUTH AND TAUMARANUI GET SOME HIGH CLOUD BUT EVERYONE ELSE WILL ENJOY BLUE SKIES. WHANGANUI ` YOUR HIGH IS 19. TO THE SOUTH ISLAND ` SIMILAR HERE. EXPECT THE ODD SHOWER IN NELSON THIS MORNING. LOOKING FINE FOR EVERYONE ELSE. 17 THE HIGH IN WESTPORT. HEADING SOUTH ` A VERY CLOUDY START TO YOUR MORNING. EXPECT THIS HIGH CLOUD TO LINGER INTO THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING. 12 THE HIGH FOR TIMARU. TO THE DEEP SOUTH ` YOU'LL WAKE UP TO HIGH CLOUD THIS MORNING. THIS WILL CLEAR TO A BEAUTIFUL AFTERNOON FOR MOST OF YOU. QUEENSTOWN ` YOUR HIGH IS 10. THANKS, SAM. OVERNIGHT, U.S. COAST GUARD HAS CONTINUED SEARCHING FOR THE MISSING CANADIAN RESEARCH SUBMARINE. THE VESSEL LOST CONTACT WITH IT'S MOTHER SHIP AROUND ONE HOUR AND 45 FIVE MINUTES INTO ITS MISSION. CHRISTOPHER PARRY, RETIRED NAVY REAR ADMIRAL, STRATEGIC FORECASTER AND BEST-SELLING AUTHOR JOINS US. WE ALSO WELCOME CBS CORRESPONDENT DAVID POGUE ` HE VISITED AND COVERED THE ACTUAL SUBMERSIBLE FOR CBS'S SUNDAY MORNING SHOW LAST YEAR. MORNING TO YOU BOTH. YOU HAVE BEEN THERE AND DONE THAT AND I KNOW YOU MUST BE FEELING THIS MORE ACUTELY THAN MOST, HAVING BEEN INSIDE AND HAVING VISITED THE TITANIC. WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO THE NEWS THAT THE SUB ARE CIVIL HAD LOST CONTACT WITH ITS... TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, MY FIRST REACTION WAS IT'S A GLITCH. GLITCH IS A VERY COMMON AND IS STANDARD NOT JUST FOR SUBMARINES, BUT ALL... THE FRENCH HAD THIS PROBLEM WHEN THEY DISCOVERED THE TITANIC. IT IS NOT UNCOMMON. I HAVE HAD GLITCHES AS WELL. AND THEN I FOUND OUT THAT IT HAD ALREADY BEEN GONE FOR 24-HOUR IS, AND THAT IS WHEN MY STOMACH FELL. GIVE US AN ADR ABOUT BEING OUT THERE AT THE TITANIC WRECK SITE AND WHAT IT'S LIKE AND JUST HOW ISOLATING IT FEELS IN THAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENT. TO BE CLEAR, MY DIVE WITH THE NEWS CREW, WE WERE ONLY 37 FEET DOWN AND WE HAD A MALFUNCTION. WE RETURN TO THE SURFACE. I NEVER SAW THE TITANIC, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE SUBMARINE ITSELF IS MADE FROM CARBON FIBRE TUBES, THERE ARE NO CHAIRS, YOUR BACK IS CURVED AGAINST THE WALL AND IT GETS VERY, VERY COLD. WHEN THE LIGHTS ARE ON, AS YOU ARE DIVING, YOU CAN SEE TINY LUMINESCENT PLANKTON. WHEN THEY TURN THE LIGHTS OFF, IT IS THE BLACKEST, BLACK YOU HAVE EVER SEEN. IT AS HOSTILE. CHRISTOPHER, IF I CAN BRING YOU IN HERE TO DISCUSS THE LOGISTICS AROUND THE SEARCH THAT IS NOW UNDERWAY, IT IS AN ENORMOUS AREA TO COVER. EVEN TO BEGIN TO CONSIDER HOW TO SEARCH UNDERNEATH THE SEA FLOOR. HOW DOES THIS LOGISTICS OPERATION ALL COME TOGETHER AND CAN IT BE SUCCESSFUL? I SHOULD SAY AT THE START THAT I AM GENERALLY AN OPTIMIST. THIS IS A VERY WORRYING SITUATION. WHEN YOU START LOOKING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU EXPECT TO START WITH DATEM. THERE IS NO DATEM APART FROM THE WRECK OF THE TITANIC. YOU HAVE A VERY CRATED LANDSCAPE AND YOU ARE AT AN EXTREME DEPTH. I AM NOT EVEN SURE WE HAVE ANY SENSORS THAT CAN GO DOWN THAT FAR FOR THE SUBMARINE. IT IS GLASSFIBRE SO IT IS RESISTANT TO SONAR, AND AMIDST ALL THE DEBRIS AND ALL OF THE CURRENTS, THE CHANCE OF FINDING THIS EFFORT IS STILL... IS LESS THAN 5%, SHALL WE SAY. AND ONCE YOU HAVE LOCATED IT, HOW ON EARTH ARE YOU GOING TO GET IT BACK TO THE SURFACE? I DON'T KNOW ANYWAY THAT HAS BEEN USED IN THE PAST. CONCEPTUALLY, YOU COULD WRAP A WIRE AROUND IT, AND DRAG IT TO THE SURFACE, OR YOU COULD SEND OUT ANOTHER SUBMARINE THAT COULD HUG IT AND BRING IT TO THE SURFACE. IT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. I THINK WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE THAT THE US COAST GUARD JUST GAVE, THEY ADMITTED THAT THE LOCATION PROBLEM IS HUGE. EVEN WITH THE OPERATING VEHICLES THEY THINK THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE BEGUN TO THINK ABOUT RECOVERY YET. AND THAT IS WHILE THE CLOCK IS TICKING WHICH IS PROBABLY ABOUT 40 HOURS NOW. IT REALLY IS ON THE EDGE OF EXPLORATION, THIS KIND OF MISSION. I KNOW ADVENTURE IS PART OF HUMAN NATURE AND WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING TO PUSH THE BOUNDARIES, BUT AT THE DEPTH THAT THE SUBMARINE MAY HAVE DESCENDED TO, HOW CAN THEY COMMUNICATE WITH THE SHIP ABOVE? IN THE PAST, THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COMMUNICATE BY WHAT WE CALL UNDERWATER TELEPHONE, WHICH IS VOICE ACTIVATED OR TEXT ACTIVATED SIGNALS. THAT COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN LOST, AS HAS THE 20 MINUTE PAYING THAT THEY HAVE. I AM VERY PESSIMISTIC ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE. WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO FIND THESE PEOPLE, BUT LIKE DAVID WAS SAYING, WHEN I REALISED HOW LONG IT HAD BEEN... DAVID, AS YOU MENTION, YOU HAVE BEEN ABOARD THE SUBMARINE. WATCHING YOUR PIECE THAT YOU FILED FOR CBS, THERE WAS ALMOST A SHOCK ABOUT SOME OF THE MORE BASIC ELEMENTS TO THIS CRAFT, CONSIDERING WHERE WAS HEADING. TALK TO ME ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE SUBMARINE AND THE DISCLAIMER THAT YOU HAD TO SIGN IN ORDER JUST TO BOARD IT. I WAS VERY SURPRISED TO DISCOVER THERE WERE A NUMBER OF OFF-THE-SHELF IMPROVISED ELEMENTS. THE CEO, STOCKTON RUSH, TOLD ME THAT THE LIGHTS IN THE SUBMARINE WERE BOUGHT FROM KEMPER WORLD. THE CONTROLLER IS LIKE AN XBOX CONTROLLER. THERE ARE 18 BOLTS THAT CLOSED THE HATCH FROM THE OUTSIDE, BUT THE ONLY DRILLED 17 OF THEM. THE 18TH ONE IS TOO HIGH UP, SO NO ONE BOTHERED WITH IT. I WAS ALARMED AND I ASKED HIM ABOUT THIS AND HE SAID, THE IMPORTANT PART IS THAT CARBON FIBRE CYLINDER THAT CONTAINS THE HUMAN BEINGS, THAT IS CUSTOM-MADE AND WE DESIGNED IT WITH NASA. IT IS ROCKSOLID. THE LIGHTS MIGHT GO, THE THRUSTERS MIGHT GO, BUT THE PEOPLE WILL BE SAFE INSIDE. CAN I JUST CLARIFY, THERE IS NO WAY TO ESCAPE THAT SUBMARINE FROM INSIDE? HAS TO BE OPEN FROM THE OUTSIDE? EVEN IF THIS WAS TO BE FLOATING, SOMEONE ON THE SURFACE OF THE ATLANTIC OCEAN, THOSE INSIDE CANNOT GET OUT. THAT IS THE REAL NIGHTMARE SCENARIO. IF THEY HAVE COME TO THE SURFACE, AND ARE RUNNING OUT OF AIR, THEY CANNOT OPEN IT AND CANNOT ESCAPE. THAT IS THE THIRD POSSIBILITY OF THEM BEING TRAPPED ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA OR HAVING COLLAPSED. THERE ARE VERY FEW GOOD SCENARIOS HERE, ISN'T HERE, FOR THOSE ABOARD THE VESSEL? I AGREE WITH CHRIS. I THINK THE ODDS ARE VERY LOW AT THIS POINT. IT IS HEARTBREAKING. I SPENT NINE DAYS WITH STOCKTON WHO WAS DRIVING THE SUBMARINE, AND WITH THE FAMOUS TITANIC SCIENTIST WHO HAS BEEN TO SEE THE TITANIC... HE WAS ON BOARD. AND I GOT TO KNOW THEM OVER THAT VERY INTENSE CLOSE EXPERIENCE, AND I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO PROCESS IT YET. WE ARE THINKING OF YOU GIVEN YOUR CLOSE CONNECTION TO SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE ABOARD. OUR THOUGHTS GO OUT TO YOU. CHRIS, IF I CAN FINISH WITH YOU? IN TERMS OF THE OPERATION NOW FROM A NAVAL POINT OF VIEW, WHAT MUST BE GOING ON BEHIND-THE-SCENES IN TERMS OF THE NEXT STEPS? THEY WILL BE MAKING SURE THAT THE VESSEL HASN'T GONE TO THE SURFACE IN THE INTERVENING PERIOD. THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND THEM IF THEY WERE ON THE SURFACE. I THINK WE CAN DISCOUNT THAT, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH. I'M AFRAID TO SAY, WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS... THERE IS VERY LITTLE TO BE DONE. THE TECHNOLOGY TO FIX THIS JUST DOESN'T EXIST. IT IS A HUGELY COMPLEX THING WE ARE LOOKING AT. AND YOU HAVE THIS TINY OBJECT IN THE SEA, POSSIBLY ALONGSIDE THE TITANIC. THE OPERATING VEHICLES THEY ARE USING, IT IS LIKE PLOUGHING A FIELD. IT WILL TAKE THEM ALL DAY JUST TO DO ONE FIELD UP AND DOWN. THEY ARE RUNNING OUT OF AIR. I AM AFRAID TO SAY THAT EVEN IF WE LOCATE IT, THE TIME IT WILL TAKE TO BRING IT TO THE SURFACE WOULD BE TOO LONG. I HATE TO BE PESSIMISTIC BUT ALL THE INDICATIONS ARE TO PREPARE OURSELVES FOR THE WORST. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. CHRISTOPHER PARRY AND DAVID POGUE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US ON BREAKFAST THIS MORNING. E HAERE AKE NEI, UP NEXT ` NATIONAL'S NO FAN OF THE CLEAN CAR DISCOUNT, AT LEAST NOT PUBLICLY, BUT ITS LEADER BEEN CLAIMING IT ON THE SLY? WE'LL ASK CHRISTOPHER LUXON NEXT. # BABY, YOU CAN DRIVE MY CAR # BABY, YOU CAN DRIVE MY CAR # WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. IT'S NO SECRET THE NATIONAL PARTY AIN'T FANS OF THE CLEAN-CAR DISCOUNT SCHEME - CALLING IT A 'UTE TAX' AND A 'SUBSIDY FOR WEALTHY TESLA OWNERS'. WELL, IT APPEARS ONE OF THOSE WEALTHY TESLA OWNERS IS THE FAMILY OF NATIONAL PARTY LEADER, CHRISTOPHER LUXON. THE CAR IS IN THE SPOTLIGHT AFTER IT WAS REVEALED IT HAD RECEIVED THE VERY DISCOUNT LUXON WAS PUBLICLY BAGGING. LAST NIGHT HE WOULDN'T SAY HOW MANY TIMES HE'D CLAIMED THE DISCOUNT, SAYING IT WAS NONE OF ANYONE'S BUSINESS. LET'S SEE WHAT HE SAYS THIS MORNING - CHRISTOPHER LUXON JOINS US NOW. MR LUXON ` ARE YOU A WEALTHY TESLA OWNER? I LOVE YOUR LEAD IN MUSIC. THAT WAS GREAT. MY WIFE OWNS A TESLA. HER FINANCIAL AFFAIRS ARE NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION. I AM THE POLITICIAN, NOT HER ALL MY FAMILY. HAS A CLEAN CAR DISCOUNT BEEN OBTAINED AT THE POINT OF PURCHASE FOR THAT CAR? YOU SAY THAT YOU DRIVE IT. AGAIN, IT IS MY WIFE'S CAR. THOSE ARE HER FINANCIAL AFFAIRS, THEY ARE NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION. WHAT IS UP FOR DISCUSSION IS THAT WE STAND BY OUR POSITION, WHICH IS THE CLEAN CAR DISCOUNT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. THOSE THAT CAN AFFORD TO PAY DO NOT NEED A SUBSIDY, AND THOSE THAT WANT TO BUY A UTE AND HAVE NO ALTERNATIVE END UP HAVING TO PAY A TAX. IT IS THE SAME THING WITH PRESCRIPTION FEES, THOSE THAT CAN AFFORD TO PAY, SHOULD, AND THOSE THAT CANNOT SHOULD BE SUPPORTED. THIS GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN VERY POOR AT TARGETED SPENDING. WE WANT TO SAVE MONEY AND WE WANT TO DO BETTER THINGS WITHOUT MONEY TO GET BETTER OUTCOMES FOR NEW ZEALANDERS. WE STAND BY OUR POLICY VERY STRONGLY. IS THAT NOT A HYPOCRITICAL DECISION TODAY, GIVEN THAT YOU ARE QUITE ACCEPTING OF PEOPLE TO ACCEPT IT ` BUT YOU DO NOT THINK YOU SHOULD EXIST. IT IS GOVERNMENT POLICY. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE OPPOSING. THIS CLEAN CAR DISCOUNT MAKES NO SENSE. THOSE THAT CAN AFFORD SHOULD I HAVE TO BE SUBSIDISED AND THOSE THAT HAVE NO ALTERNATIVE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY A TAX ` THAT TAKES YOU BACK TO UNIVERSAL VERSUS TARGETED ARGUMENT. THIS COUNTRY IS IN A RECESSION, IT IS TAXPAYER MONEY ` WHY DON'T WE MAKE SURE THAT EVERY DOLLAR IS BETTER TARGETED SO IT CAN DO BETTER THINGS AND GET BETTER OUTCOMES FOR NEW ZEALANDERS. THIS IS A TOUGH TIME FOR NEW ZEALAND, THIS COUNTRY JUST WENT INTO A RECESSION LAST WEEK. THE ECONOMIC SITUATION FOR NEW ZEALANDERS REALLY DIFFICULT ` KIWIS ARE SKIPPING MEALS BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD FOOD. THEY ARE HAVING TO CANCEL KIDS ACTIVITIES BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PAY THEIR MORTGAGES, SO WE NEED EVERY TAXPAYER DOLLAR WORKING HARD AND GETTING OUTCOMES FOR KIWIS. YES, YOU MAKE A VERY FAIR POINT. THIS IS A $73,000 CAR THAT GETS MORE THAN $8000 CLEAN CAR DISCOUNT. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE SO OPPOSED TO IT, WOULD YOU NOT MAKE A MORAL STAND THAT IF YOU DO NOT NEED THE DISCOUNT, THEN YOU SHOULD NOT TAKE IT, IF YOU SO VEHEMENTLY OPPOSE IT? AGAIN, IT IS GOVERNMENT POLICY, THERE ARE LOTS OF GOVERNMENT POLICIES. THAT YOU TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN? WE REALLY OPPOSE THIS POLICY, WE THINK IT IS WRONG. PEOPLE THAT CAN AFFORD SHOULD I GET SUBSIDISED AND THOSE THAT HAVE NO ALTERNATIVE GET TAXED. I STAND BY OUR POSITION. IT IS GOVERNMENT POLICY, THERE ARE LOTS OF POLICIES ACROSS ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE IN NEW ZEALAND, WE ARE SAYING TO YOU THAT THIS ONE DOES NOT MAKE A LOT OF SENSE, AS DOES THE REASON FOR THOSE THAT CAN AFFORD TO PAY FOR PERCEPTIONS, IT IS THE SAME THING ` IT IS MONEY THAT WE FREE UP, WE SAVE, AND WE GET TO SPEND ON OTHER THINGS THAT CAN ADD MORE TO NEW ZEALANDERS AND MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THEIR LIVES. IF YOU PERSONALLY WENT AND BOUGHT A CAR TODAY THAT WAS ELIGIBLE FOR THE CLEAN CAR DISCOUNT, WOULD YOU CLAIM IT? I SHARE A CAR WITH MY SON, TYPICALLY, AND I DRIVE A SCOOTER. AS A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION. IT IS A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION, WOULD YOU CLAIM IT? IT IS GOVERNMENT POLICY. PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO CLAIM LOTS OF THINGS THAT I GOVERNMENT POLICIES THAT EXIST AROUND THE COUNTRY. THE BIGGER ISSUE HERE IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS WASTING A HUGE MAT OF MONEY. GOVERNMENT SPENDING IS UP 80% UNDER THIS GOVERNMENT ` DO WE THINK WE HAVE HAD AN 80% IMPROVEMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR ECONOMY? NO. WASTEFUL SPENDING IS NOT APPROPRIATE. WE HAVE TO MAKE EVERY DOLLAR COUNT. SOMEONE HAS WOKEN UP TODAY, GONE TO WORK, PAY THEIR TAXES, GIVEN THE MONEY TO THE GOVERNMENT, THE GOVERNMENT IS WASTING IT. THAT IS A LONGER ANSWER THAN I HAD DISSIPATED, BUT YOU ARE IMPLYING HYPOTHETICALLY THAT YOU WOULD TAKE THE DISCOUNT. THERE ARE POLICIES ALL ACROSS GOVERNMENT AND ALL ACROSS NEW ZEALANDERS LIVES, AND WE OPPOSE THIS POLICY. THOSE THAT CAN AFFORD SHOULD NOT BE SUBSIDISED AND THOSE THAT CANNOT FIND AN ALTERNATIVE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY THE TAX. TARGETED GOVERNMENT SPENDING IS SOMETHING WE FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT. ANOTHER POLICY YOU ARE OPPOSING AS THIS ETHICAL WEIGHT LISTING ` WAITLIST FOR SURGERIES. ON WHAT GROUNDS, WHEN IT IS CONSIDERED A BASIS OF NEED, WHAT NEED SHOULD YOU CONSIDER WHEN WAITING WHERE SOMEONE SHOULD LAND ON THE SURGERY WAITLIST? ACCESS SHOULD BE ON HEALTH NEED AND NOT ETHNICITY. THEY SHOULD BE SOMEONE'S PHYSICAL AND MEDICAL CONDITION, AILMENT, THE ISSUES THEY ARE DEALING WITH, THE TIME ON THE WAITLIST IS A GOOD THING, AND A LEVEL OF DEPRIVATION AND PAIN AND SUFFERING ` ALL OF THAT LEADS TO AN ASSESSMENT OF SOMEONE'S HEALTH. THERE IS NO NEED FOR ETHNICITY TO BE ANYWHERE IN THAT CRITERIA. SHOULD AGED BE ONE OF THAT CRITERIA? IT COMES BACK TO AN ASSESSMENT OF NEED, AND SO WE ARE SAYING TO PEOPLE, LISTEN, HOWEVER IS IN THE MOST PAIN AND SUFFERING, GET TO THE TOP OF THAT LIST, BASED ON THE PRIORITY OF THEIR NEED. SO IT IS ABOUT HOW DO YOU CATEGORISE THAT NEED? IS AGE 1 OF THOSE NEEDS? IT IS GOING TO BE AROUND THEIR PHYSICAL CONDITION, THEIR CLINICAL CONDITION. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT DOCTORS WILL MAKE AN ASSESSMENT AROUND ESTHER HOWLETT WAITLIST IS FORMED. IT MAY BE THAT PEOPLE ARE WAITING A LONG TIME, AND THEY ARE IN A HUGE MAT OF PAIN AND SUFFERING, AND THOSE THINGS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. ETHNICITY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, KIWIS KNOW THAT IS NOT FAIR ` THEY KNOW THAT TWO PEOPLE LIVING ON THE SAME STREET, THE SAME SITUATION, THE SAME CONDITION, AND ONE GETS TREATED DEFTLY BECAUSE OF THEIR ETHNICITY IN ONE DOES NOT, THAT IS NOT FAIR. CHRIS HIPKINS KNOWS THAT TOO, THAT IS WHY HE HAS PUT A PAUSE ON THE WHOLE THING OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS. HE HAS NOT PUT PAWS ON IT, JUST TO CLARIFY FOR OUR VIEW IS THAT MIGHT FEEL THAT IS A STATEMENT OF FACT. HE HAS ASKED FOR SOME CLARIFICATION ABOUT IT, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE WHOLE THING HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO A HALT. IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO PEOPLE IN THE SAME POSITION, AND ONE OF THEM YOU ARE CLAIMING WOULD GET AN ETHICAL WAY IN ` THE STATISTICS WILL SHOW YOU THAT THE PERSON WHO HAS A HEAVIER SCORE HAS PROBLEM BE, STATISTICALLY, BEEN WAITING LONGER ANYWAY, BECAUSE IT RUNS ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM, MAORI AND PASIFIKA ARE WAITING LONGER ANYWAY. AGAIN, ON A LIKE-FOR-LIKE BASIS, WHAT YOU WANT IS REALLY GOOD FAIRNESS, AND A CLEAR ASSESSMENT OF HEALTH NEED, RATHER THAN ETHNICITY HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE CRITERIA OF PEOPLE'S PAIN AND SUFFERING, THE DEPRIVATION, THEIR TIME ON A WAITING LIST ` THAT CAPTURES PEOPLE OF ALL LET IN THE CITIES. THAT IS NOT THE MEANS TO COME AT THIS. IT IS HEALTH NEED, NOT ETHNICITY. DO YOU BELIEVE DOCTORS THAT SAY THIS HAS BEEN A USEFUL TOOL IN HELPING TO GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE THROUGH THAT SURGICAL WAITLIST FASTER? WE HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM WITH WAITLIST ACROSS THE COUNTRY. EVERY SINGLE WAITLIST IN THIS COUNTRY HAS GOT WORSE AND SEXIEST. CORRECTION: IN SIX YEARS ACCESS TO SURGERY, IMMUNISATION RATES, ALL OF THE OUTCOMES AND RESULTS THAT ACTUALLY MATTER THAT IMPROVED KIWIS DAILY LIVES ARE THINGS THAT HAVE GOTTEN WORSE. THE GOVERNMENT HAS NOT FOCUSED ON MAKING THESE THINGS BETTER AT ALL. THERE HAS BEEN MASSIVE INTERNAL RESTRUCTURE THAT HAS DISTRACTED FROM DELIVERING FOR NEW ZEALANDERS. OUR FIXATION IS ON FIXING THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM SO THAT WE CAN IMPROVE OUTCOMES SO THAT KIWIS CAN IMPROVE THEIR DAILY LIVES. SURELY THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. ONE WOULD HOPE SO. NATIONAL PARTY LEADER, CHRISTOPHER LUXON. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. WELLINGTON MOTORISTS ARE ADVISED TO EXPECT DELAYS, YET WITH A TRUCK BLOCKING BOTH LANES OF HUTT ROAD NEAR THE CBD. THE VEHICLE HIT THE BRIDGE NEAR THE THORNDON QUAY OFF-RAMP AT AROUND 6.30am. TRAFFIC IS REPORTED TO BE MODERATE TO HEAVY AND BUILDING IN THE AREA. POLICE ARE URGING PEOPLE TO AVOID TRAVEL OR CONSIDER AN ALTERNATE ROUTE. RETIRED NAVY REAR ADMIRAL CHRIS PARRY BELIEVES THE CHANCES OF FINDING THE MISSING SUBMERSIBLE IN THE ATLANTIC OCEAN ARE SLIM, WITH, AT BEST, LESS THAN 40 HOURS OF OXYGEN LEFT. SEARCH TEAMS ARE RACING AGAINST TIME TO RESCUE FIVE PASSENGERS ON BOARD THE MISSING VESSEL. THE SUB DISAPPEARED DURING AN EXPEDITION TO THE WRECK OF THE TITANIC, WHICH IS ABOUT 640km OFF THE CANADIAN COAST AND 3800m DEEP. CONTACT WAS LOST ON MONDAY AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES INTO ITS DIVE. IT'S A HUGELY COMPLEX THING WE ARE LOOKING AT HERE. THIS OBJECT WAS POSSIBLY SITTING ALONGSIDE THE TITANIC. IT WOULD TAKE THEM ALL DAY JUST TO GO UP AND DOWN UP DOWN. EVEN IF WE LOCATE IT, THE TIME IT WILL TAKE TO ACTUALLY BRING IT TO THE SERVICE WILL BE TOO LONG. I HATE TO BE PESSIMISTIC BUT ALL THE INDICATIONS ARE THAT WE MUST PREPARE OURSELVES FOR THE WORSE. THE COAST GUARD HAS NOW EXPANDED ITS SEARCH FOR THE MISSING SUB, DEPLOYING RESOURCES TO DEEPER WATERS. CYBER SECURITY AGENCY CERT NZ IS URGING PEOPLE TO BE MORE CAUTIOUS ONLINE AND PREDICTS SCAMS WILL BE HARDER TO SPOT THANKS TO THE USE OF AI. ITS LATEST REPORT SHOWS NEW ZEALANDERS LOST $6 MILLION TO SCAMS IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF THIS YEAR. THAT'S A 66% RISE IN FINANCIAL LOSSES. PEOPLE SHOULD BE WARY OF, AGAIN, IF YOU'VE GOT A LINK THERE THAT DOESN'T SEEM QUITE KOSHER, IF YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO INVEST IN A SCAM MAYBE VIA WHATSAPP, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE SIGNS THAT YOU'RE BEING... INVEIGLED INTO SOME SORT OF A SCAM, AND AI IS JUST CONTINUALLY GENERATING THAT. NEARLY 2000 SCAMMING INCIDENTS WERE REPORTED TO CERT NZ IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR. NATIONAL PARTY LEADER CHRISTOPHER LUXON STANDS BY HIS POSITION THE CLEAN CAR DISCOUNT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, DESPITE HIS WIFE OWNING A TESLA THAT APPEARS TO BE REGISTERED ON THE CLEAN CAR WEBSITE APPLYING FOR A REBATE. LUXON HAS PREVIOUSLY CRITICISED THE GOVERNMENT POLICY THAT SUBSIDISES ELECTRIC VEHICLES, CALLING IT A 'UTE TAX' THAT BENEFITS 'WEALTHY TESLA OWNERS.' SPEAKING TO BREAKFAST, LUXON SAYS THOSE WHO CAN AFFORD IT SHOULDN'T BE SUBSIDISED. I STAND BY OUR POSITION BUT IT IS GOVERNMENT POLICY, THERE ARE LOTS OF GOVERNMENT POLICIES ACROSS ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE IN NEW ZEALAND AND WE ARE SAYING THAT THIS ONE DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. PREVIOUS TRANSPORT MINISTER MICHAEL WOOD HAS STATED OVER 100,000 REBATES HAVE BEEN GRANTED SINCE THE SCHEME CAME INTO EFFECT IN 2021. TO SPORT, AND THE QATAR FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION HAS TURNED ALLEGATIONS OF RACIAL ABUSE BACK ON THE ALL WHITES CLAIMING THEY WERE THE VICTIMS OF ABUSE. THE NEW ZEALAND PLAYERS REFUSED TO PLAY THE SECOND HALF OF THE MATCH, AFTER OFFICIALS FAILED TO ACT ON ACCUSATIONS A RACIAL SLUR WAS DIRECTED AT DEFENDER MICHAEL BOXALL. IN A STATEMENT, THE QFA ADMITTED THERE WAS AN EXCHANGE OF WORDS BUT STRESSED NO RACIAL OR DISCRIMINATORY LANGUAGE WAS USED. THE QATARI PLAYER INVOLVED THEN CLAIMED HE WAS RACIALLY ABUSED DURING THE MATCH. AUSTRALIA HAVE GONE 1-0 UP IN THE ASHES SERIES, WINNING THE FIRST TEST BY TWO WICKETS. IT WAS A NAIL-BITING FINISH ON DAY FIVE. AUSTRALIA NEED IN 174 RUNS TO WIN. TAIL-ENDERS PAT CUMMINS AND NATHAN LYON COMBINING FOR A VITAL 55 RUNS TO GUIDE AUSTRALIA HOME. WE'VE HAD SOME HARD TIMES. YEAH, I KNOW IT'S ONLY THE FIRST TEST, BUT THE EBB AND FLOW OF THE WHOLE GAME AND THE WAY ENGLAND CAME OUT AND PLAYED, IT WAS NO ONE'S TEST MATCH TILL RIGHT AT THE VERY END WHERE WE WON, SO FOR ME, THIS IS PROBABLY MY FAVOURITE TEST MATCH I'VE PLAYED IN SO FAR. AND IT'S BEEN AWESOME. THE SECOND TEST IS AT LORD'S IN LONDON. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY ` A RAINY START UP HERE. THIS BECOMES HEAVY AND THUNDERY IN THE AFTERNOON FOR SOME OF YOU. 16 THE HIGH IN KAITAIA. FURTHER SOUTH ` CLOUDY FOR YOU WITH SCATTERED SHOWERS. EXPECT THIS RAIN TO BUILD AND BECOME HEAVIER INTO YOUR EVENING. 17 THE HIGH FOR TAURANGA. TO THE EAST COAST ` YOU'LL GET A MOSTLY FINE MORNING. RAIN DEVELOPING INTO THE AFTERNOON, HEAVY FOR GISBORNE. 15 THE HIGH FOR MOST OF YOU. OVER TO THE WEST ` LOOKING VERY DIFFERENT HERE. NEW PLYMOUTH AND TAUMARUNUI GET SOME HIGH CLOUD, BUT EVERYONE ELSE WILL ENJOY BLUE SKIES. PALMERSTON NORTH, YOUR HIRES 16. TO THE SOUTH ISLAND ` SIMILAR HERE. EXPECT THE ODD SHOWER IN NELSON THIS MORNING. LOOKING FINE FOR EVERYONE ELSE. BLENHEIM, YOUR HIGH AS 16. HEADING SOUTH ` A VERY CLOUDY START TO YOUR MORNING. EXPECT THIS HIGH CLOUD TO LINGER INTO THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING. ASHBURTON, YOUR HIGH AS 12. TO THE DEEP SOUTH ` YOU'LL WAKE UP TO HIGH CLOUD THIS MORNING. THIS WILL CLEAR TO A BEAUTIFUL AFTERNOON FOR MOST OF YOU. TAHUNA QUEENSTOWN, YOUR HIGH IS 10. NICE, SAMMY. BEFORE WE GET TO YOUR FEEDBACK, THIS IS A STORY THAT IS UNFOLDING IN AUSTRALIA, INVOLVING A NEW ZEALANDER SAM HARVEY WHO WAS DOING A LOOP, AND ULTRAMARATHON IN QUEENSLAND. THEY START AT 7 AM THEY ARE STILL RUNNING, THEY ARE ON THE 95TH LAP. IF THEY MAKE IT HOME THEY WILL HAVE COVERED 636 KM SO FAR. BECAUSE THEY ARE AWESOME! IS THIS A FUNDRAISER? IT'S A RELAPSE MARATHON ON SO THEY HAVE AN HOUR TO DO THE LOOP 6.7 KM LOOP THEY DO EVERY HOUR ON HOUR. THEY HAVE 10 MINUTES BETWEEN START AND FINISH, GOING TO BED, GETTING NUTRITION AND WAKING UP. 36 KM AT THE END OF THIS LOOP, HE'S ALREADY BROKEN THE CURRENT AUSTRALIAN RECORD GO SAM X FORMATION UP YEAH GO SAM, IT GREAT NAME TOO. INFLUENCER ANDREW TATE HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH RAPE AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING. THAT'S NEXT. THE SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCER ANDREW TATE HAS BEEN CHARGED IN ROMANIA WITH RAPE, HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND FORMING A CRIMINAL ORGANISATION TO EXPLOIT WOMEN. HIS BROTHER TRISTAN HAS ALSO BEEN CHARGED. BOTH HAVE PREVIOUSLY DENIED THE ALLEGATIONS. THEY HAVE BEEN UNDER HOUSE ARREST IN ROMANIA FOR MONTHS DURING A POLICE INVESTIGATION. THE BBC'S LUCY WILLIAMSON REPORTS. THE MAN ACCUSED OF TARGETING WOMEN ACROSS SEVERAL COUNTRIES NOW THE TARGET OF ROMANIAN PROSECUTORS HIMSELF. ANDREW TATE, HIS BROTHER TRISTAN, AND TWO FEMALE ASSOCIATES FORMALLY CHARGED WITH CRIMES, INCLUDING RAPE AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING. THE INDICTMENT FILED AT THE BUCHAREST COURT THIS MORNING THE RESULT OF SIX MONTHS OF INVESTIGATION BY ROMANIA'S ORGANISED CRIME UNIT. PROSECUTORS SAY ALL FOUR DEFENDANTS FORMED AN ORGANISED GROUP TO COMMIT HUMAN TRAFFICKING, NOT JUST WITHIN ROMANIA BUT IN THE U.S. AND THE UK. THE CHARGES INVOLVE SEVEN ALLEGED VICTIMS, WHO, THE INDICTMENT SAYS, WERE FORCED TO PRODUCE PORNOGRAPHIC MATERIAL AFTER BEING RECRUITED BY THE TATE BROTHERS WITH FALSE PROMISES OF LOVE AND MARRIAGE. THE CHARGES ALSO INCLUDE RAPE, ILLEGALLY ACCESSING A COMPUTER SYSTEM AND VIOLENCE AGAINST ONE ALLEGED VICTIM. IT WOULD BE AN OVERSTATEMENT TO SAY WE'RE HAPPY, BUT WE DO WELCOME IT, BECAUSE THIS MEANS WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT EVIDENCE. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD A DEFENCE. WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO CLEAR THE BROTHERS' NAMES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THE ARREST OF ANDREW TATE AND HIS BROTHER HERE IN DECEMBER SHONE A SPOTLIGHT ON HIS ONLINE INFLUENCE AROUND THE WORLD. YOU KNOW I'M INNOCENT. TEACHERS, POLICE AND RIGHTS ORGANISATIONS IN THE UK HAVE ALL WARNED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF HIS VIEWS ON WOMEN AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP TO MEN. EARLIER THIS MONTH, WE INTERVIEWED ANDREW TATE AS PROSECUTORS WERE WRAPPING UP THEIR INVESTIGATION HERE AND ASKED HIM ABOUT SIMILAR CLAIMS OF EXPLOITATION BEING MADE AGAINST HIM BY WOMEN IN THE UK, INCLUDING ONE WOMAN WHO SPOKE ANONYMOUSLY TO THE BBC UNDER THE NAME SOPHIE. I'VE ALLOWED YOU INTO MY HOUSE. IF ANY FEMALE ON THE PLANET HAS A PROBLEM WITH ME, I STRONGLY RECOMMEND HER TO GO TO THE POLICE AND TRY AND PURSUE ME FOR CRIMINAL CHARGES. I'M ACTUALLY SUCH A NICE PERSON THAT I'VE NEVER HAD ANY COME AT ME. THE BBC HAS SPOKEN TO SOMEBODY SINCE YOUR ARREST WHO SAYS EXACTLY THOSE THINGS ` THAT WITH YOU IT'S ALL MANIPULATION, THERE'S AN ULTERIOR MOTIVE TO EVERYTHING. IS THIS 'SOPHIE'? THIS SOPHIE, WHICH THE BBC'S INVENTED, WHICH HAS NO FACE OF, NOBODY KNOWS WHO SHE IS. THE BBC DID NOT INVENT HER. OF COURSE NOT. AND SHE` BECAUSE YOU NEVER INVENT ANYTHING. AND SHE SHE HAS NOT FILED CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST ME. WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE? WHAT IS SHE SAYING? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EMOTIONAL MANIPULATION INTO THE SEX INDUSTRY FOR YOUR FINANCIAL GAIN. ABSOLUTE GARBAGE. TOMORROW, ANDREW TATE AND HIS BROTHER WILL LEAVE THEIR COMPOUND IN BUCHAREST TO RECEIVE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE INDICTMENT AGAINST THEM. THE TWO CONFLICTING NARRATIVES AROUND ANDREW TATE ` MASCULINE ICON OR DANGEROUS MISOGYNIST ` ARE ABOUT TO BE TESTED IN COURT. ME U TONU MAI. STAY WITH US. IMAGINE FACING A 10 YEAR JAIL SENTENCE FOR MAKING A JOKE THAT'S WHAT ONE CLIMATE PROTESTOR SAYS IS HAPPENING TO HER. SHE JOINS US NEXT. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. OUR NEXT STORY IS A BIT OF A DAVID AND GOLIATH TALE WHICH IS BEING TALKED ABOUT ACROSS THE WORLD. KIWI CLIMATE ACTIVIST ROSEMARY PENWARDEN FACING UP TO 10 YEARS IN PRISON OVER A LETTER SHE WROTE TO OIL EXECS, SHE SAYS, AS A SATIRICAL PROTEST. ROSEMARY JOINS US NOW FROM HER HOME IN WAITATI, JUST NORTH OF DUNEDIN. MORENA. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US THIS MORNING AND YOU'RE ALL SMILES. TELL US ABOUT THE LETTER AND THE INTENT BEHIND THE LETTER AND HOW ALL THIS STARTED. STARTED THIS WAS IN 2019, 20 SEPTEMBER 2019 SO WE'RE COMING UP TO NEARLY 4 YEARS AGO NOW. I WOULD LIKE TO START BY REMAINING LISTENERS OF THE BIG PICTURE. AS I SAY, I AM A CLIMATE ACTIVIST AND HAVE BEEN DOING THE STUFF FOR A WEE WHALE. IN 2019 THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY WAS BIG ON THE RADAR. SINCE THEN, WE'VE HAD COVID WESTPORT FLOODED, THEN IT HAPPENED AGAIN. WESTPORT UNDERWATER, GIVES BEEN UNDERWATER, FLOODS IN PAKISTAN. AUCKLAND FLOODS, WE'VE HAD CYCLING GABRIELLE. IN 2019, I WANTED TO TALK DIRECTLY TO THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THIS FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY HERE IN NEW ZEALAND. SO I GOT A BIT CREATIVE, I PRETENDED TO BE THEM AND I WROTE THIS SORT OF FUNNY LETTER THAT WISHED THEY SAT DOWN AND WROTE THEMSELVES. OF COURSE I KNEW THEY WOULDN'T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY BECAUSE IT IS NOT SOMETHING THEY WOULD WRITE. THE JUDGE TOOK IT SERIOUSLY. YOU ARE POTENTIALLY FACING UP TO 10 YEARS IN JAIL FOR ESSENTIALLY WRITING A LETTER THAT YOU SAY THEY SHOULD HAVE TAKEN AN ACID TERRA COOL SENSE. BUT THE JUDGE HASN'T SEEN IT THAT WAY. 10 YEARS JAIL FOR THIS, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? I WASN'T TRYING TO SHUT IT DOWN, I WAS TRYING TO RUFFLE THEIR FEATHERS A LITTLE BIT. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TALKING TO YOU TODAY. SO I THINK I DID AND I THINK IT WAS A LITTLE LIVE PRETENDING TO BE THEM BUT WHAT IT WAS REALLY TO DO WAS TO EXPOSE THE BIG JAKE ANTIC HOAX THAT IS BEING PLAYED BY THIS INDUSTRY RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSES AND HAS BEEN FOR DECADES. WHEN THEY SAID IN 1979 THAT BURNING FOSSIL FUELS WILL CAUSE DRAMATIC ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS. THEY'VE BEEN LYING SINCE THEN, CAUSING CLIMATE CHANGE, CAUSING DOUBT. LEAVING OUR CARBON FOOTPRINT TRACK TO TRY AND TURN US INDIVIDUALS INTO THE GUILTY ONE. I YOU SCARED THAT YOU COULD FACE JAIL TIME FOR THIS? THERE IS SOMETHING I'M SCARED OF, JENNY MAY, MY DAUGHTER IS SIX AND SHE WILL BE MY AGE IN 2081. WHAT IS THE WORLD GOING TO LOOK LIKE THEN? HUMANS MIGHT BE LOOKING AT A 4.8 WARMER WORLD BY THEN, THAT'S WHAT THE SCIENTISTS HAVE TOLD US. THAT'S WHAT I AM AFRAID OF. I'M NOT GOING TO STOP FIGHTING FOR A FUTURE FOR HER. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. WE WISH YOU THE BEST AND APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. STAY WITH US. WE ARE CROSSING BACK TO WHERE YOU WOULD RATHER BE. STILL LIVE IN THE CAPITAL CITY OF SUMMER. SEE YOU GUYS SOON. WHERE ARE WE GOING? NUMBER TWO. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. WITH ITS CAPTIVATING NATURAL BEAUTY, AUTHENTIC HOSPITALITY AND EXHILARATING ADVENTURES, SAMOA IS A BUCKET-LIST DESTINATION. A SAMOA HOLIDAY OFFERS YOU THE CHANCE TO CREATE YOUR VERY OWN ADVENTURE AWAY FROM THE DAILY GRIND, SO WE'VE PARTNERED WITH SAMOA TOURISM TO GIVE YOU THIS OPPORTUNITY. MATT GIBB IS THERE NOW CHECKING OUT ALL THERE IS TO DO. MORENA, MATT. MORENA. WHAT A WEEKEND HAS BEEN. IT HAS BEEN AN ADVENTURE. I MANAGED TO GET A REAL TASTE OF SAMOA. LOOK AT THIS. WE'RE HERE AT SAVAI'I KOKO, AND HERE IS, BASICALLY, SAMOA'S WILLY WONKA. YOU MAKE CHOCOLATE HERE THAT GETS EXPORTED TO NEW ZEALAND WITH WHITTAKER'S BUT ALSO THE COCOA THAT YOU MAKE HERE TURNS INTO KOKO SAMOA. KOKO SAMOA, YEAH. DELICIOUS LOCAL DRINK. I WANNA KNOW THE PROCESS OF HOW WE GET FROM THE COCOA PLANT LIKE THIS TO BOTH WHITTAKER'S CHOCOLATE AND ALSO KOKO SAMOA. AFTER WE GROW IT, THEN WE GET IT FROM THE TREE. AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE INSIDE. THOSE ARE THE COCOA BEANS, UNPROCESSED. AND THEN WE PUT IT IN THE BOXES FOR FERMENTATION. THEN WE PUT IT STRAIGHT IN THE SUN. AND ONCE THE BEANS ARE DRIED, THEY SMELL... (INHALES) INCREDIBLE. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROCESS. YEAH. IT'S ALL MADE RIGHT HERE IN SAVAI'I. (UPBEAT ELECTRONIC MUSIC) THIS IS THE FRESH BEAN THAT JUST GOT OUT OF THE TREE. AND THESE LADIES ARE DOING IT THE SAMOAN WAY. KOKO SAMOA. DELICIOUS KOKO SAMOA. YEAH. THERE'S AN UMU BEING PREPARED. NOW, AN UMU IS DIFFERENT FROM THE HANGI, BUT KIND OF SIMILAR. THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT HANGI IS UNDERGROUND. YEP. OURS IS ABOVE GROUND. (ELECTRONIC MUSIC CONTINUES) THE BIG QUESTION ` WHAT'S BETTER, HANGI OR UMU? THE UMU, MAN, IS THE BEST. OOH, CONTROVERSIAL. I'M GONNA HAVE TO BE THE JUDGE OF THAT. ALL RIGHT, MATT. HALF AN HOUR LATER, FOOD IS READY. THIS IS A REAL ISLAND MEAL. WE HAVE TARO, BREADFRUIT, CANNED FISH WITH COCONUT CREAM, LOBSTER AND FISH WITH COCONUT CREAM. THIS IS A YOUNG TARO LEAF WITH COCONUT CREAM. OOH. YUM! ALL WE NEED NOW TO TOP IT OFF IS A LITTLE KOKO SAMOA. SHOULD WE EAT? THAT'S US. LET'S GO. THAT'S SO GOOD. AND FOR THIS, YOU JUST TAKE A PIECE OF TARO AND THEN, YEAH, JUST DIP IT IN. MMM. AND THE FINAL PART ` I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS. KOKO SAMOA. FA'AFETAI. MMM. OH! I'M IN HEAVEN, MATE. LIFE IS SO GOOD. (LAUGHS) IT WAS SO DELICIOUS. I WISH YOU COULD TASTE IT. RIGHT NOW I AM BACK HERE WITH MY NEW BEST MATE. I WANT TO TALK TO ABOUT THE TRADITIONAL SAMOAN TATTOOED. TELL ME ABOUT WHAT IT REPRESENTS. IT IS PART OF OUR CULTURE. WHEN I SAY EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING. HOW WE TALK, SLEEP, EVERYTHING. WHEN IT COMES TO OUR TATTOO, YOU START AT THE BACK. IT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE KNEES. IT COVERS EVERYTHING. WHEN YOU FINISH YOU, IT IS LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN REBORN. PAIN IS THE BEST PART OF IT. IF YOU CAN HANDLE A BIT OF PAIN, YOU CAN HANDLE ANYTHING. YOU HAVE SERVED SAMOA WELL THIS MORNING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. GO TO THE WEBSITE TO ENTER THE COMPETITION. SEE YOU SOON. THANK YOU, MATT. YOU ARE LIVING THE DREAM. I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE LOST YOUR JOB THERE AS WELL. A TRUCK IS BLOCKING TWO LANES LEADING INTO WELLINGTON CBD, AND HEAVY TRAFFIC IS BUILDING FAST. AT 6.30am, A TRUCK HIT A BRIDGE NEAR THE THORNDON QUAY OFF-RAMP ON HUTT RD. TRAFFIC IS REPORTED TO BE MODERATE TO HEAVY. POLICE ARE URGING PEOPLE TO AVOID TRAVEL OR CONSIDER AN ALTERNATE ROUTE. 'WE MUST PREPARE OURSELVES FOR THE WORST.' THAT'S THE MESSAGE FROM A RETIRED BRITISH NAVY REAR ADMIRAL WHO BELIEVES THE CHANCES OF FINDING THE MISSING SUBMERSIBLE IN THE ATLANTIC OCEAN ARE SLIM. THE UNDERWATER VESSEL CARRYING FIVE PASSENGERS DISAPPEARED DURING AN EXPEDITION TO THE WRECK OF THE TITANIC. CONTACT WAS LOST ON MONDAY, AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES INTO ITS DIVE OFF THE CANADIAN COAST. WITH, AT BEST, LESS THAN 38 HOURS OF OXYGEN LEFT, SEARCH TEAMS ARE RACING AGAINST TIME TO FIND THE MISSING SUBMERSIBLE. AMIDST ALL THE DEBRIS, CURRENTS AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS, THE CHANCE OF FINDING THIS IF IT STILL SURVIVES IS EXTREMELY REMOTE. THERE IS LESS THAN A 5% CHANCE. ONCE YOU HAVE LOCATED IT, HOW ON EARTH ARE YOU GOING TO GET TO THE SURFACE? THEY ARE RUNNING OUT OF YEAH, I'M AFRAID. I'M AFRAID TO SAY THAT EVEN IF WE LOCATED, THE TIME IT TAKES TO BRING IT TO THE SURFACE, I THINK IT WILL BE TOO LONG. THE COAST GUARD HAS NOW EXPANDED ITS SEARCH FOR THE MISSING SUB. ONLINE PERSONALITY ANDREW TATE HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH RAPE AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING IN ROMANIA. OFFICIALS ALLEGE TATE, ALONGSIDE HIS BROTHER AND TWO ROMANIAN WOMEN, FORMED A CRIMINAL GROUP THAT SEXUALLY EXPLOITED SEVEN WOMEN. TATE HAS 6 MILLION TWITTER FOLLOWERS ` THE MAJORITY OF THEM YOUNG MEN. HE'S PREVIOUSLY BEEN BANNED FROM SOCIAL PLATFORMS FOR EXPRESSING MISOGYNISTIC VIEWS AND HATE SPEECH. A CLIMATE ACTIVIST WHO MAY BE FACING JAIL TIME FOR HER WORK SAYS SHE NEVER THOUGHT THE SATIRICAL LETTER THAT GOT HER IN TROUBLE WOULD BE TAKEN SO SERIOUSLY. ROSEMARY PENWARDEN IS FACING UP TO 10 YEARS IN PRISON AFTER SHE WAS FOUND GUILTY ON TWO CHARGES OVER A LETTER SHE WROTE TO OIL EXECS IN 2019. IT RESULTED IN ATTENDEES AT A PETROLEUM CONFERENCE THINKING THE EVENT WAS POSTPONED, CAUSING DISRUPTION. I WANTED TO TALK DIRECTLY TO THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THIS FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY HERE IN NEW ZEALAND. I GOT A LITTLE CREATIVE. I PRETENDED TO BE THEM. AND I WROTE THIS SORT OF FUNNY LETTER THAT I THOUGHT THAT I WISH THEY WOULD SIT DOWN AND WRITE THEMSELVES. OF COURSE I KNEW THEY WOULDN'T. AND OF COURSE I KNEW THEY WOULD NOT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY, BECAUSE IT IS NOT SOMETHING THEY WOULD WRITE. HER SENTENCING WILL BE IN SEPTEMBER. 'IT'S GOVERNMENT POLICY THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.' THAT'S WHAT NATIONAL PARTY LEADER CHRISTOPHER LUXON HAS TO SAY ABOUT THE CLEAN CAR DISCOUNT, DESPITE HIS FAMILY OWNING A TESLA AND APPEARING TO HAVE CLAIMED A REBATE. LUXON HAS PREVIOUSLY CRITICISED THE GOVERNMENT'S POLICY THAT SUBSIDISES ELECTRIC VEHICLES, CALLING IT A 'UTE TAX' THAT BENEFITS 'WEALTHY TESLA OWNERS.' WHEN QUESTIONED ON BREAKFAST ABOUT THIS CONTRADICTION, LUXON SAID IT'S STILL GOVERNMENT POLICY HE DISAGREED WITH. THOSE THAT CAN AFFORD TO PAY SHOULD, THOSE THAT CAN'T SHOULD BE SUPPORTED BECAUSE WHEN WE TARGET GOVERNMENT SPENDING IN A MUCH BETTER WAY, AND THIS GOVERNMENT'S BEEN VERY POOR AT THAT, THAT GIVES US` WE SAVE MONEY AND WE GET TO DO BETTER THINGS WITH THAT MONEY THAT GET OUTCOMES FOR NEW ZEALANDERS. THE GOVERNMENT SAYS OVER 100,000 REBATES HAVE BEEN GRANTED SINCE THE SCHEME CAME INTO EFFECT IN 2021. TO SPORT, AND NEW ZEALAND FOOTBALL HAS REFUTED A CLAIM ITS PLAYERS WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR RACIAL ABUSE IN YESTERDAY'S ABANDONED FRIENDLY WITH QATAR. THE NEW ZEALAND PLAYERS REFUSED TO PLAY THE SECOND HALF OF THE MATCH AFTER OFFICIALS FAILED TO ACT ON CLAIMS A RACIAL SLUR WAS AIMED AT DEFENDER MICHAEL BOXALL. IN A STATEMENT RELEASED THIS MORNING, THE QATAR FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION STATED NO RACIAL OR DISCRIMINATORY LANGUAGE WAS USED BY ITS PLAYERS AND CLAIMED ABUSE WAS AIMED AT THE QATARI PLAYER INVOLVED THEN CLAIMED HE WAS RACIALLY ABUSED DURING THE MATCH. NEW ZEALAND FOOTBALL HAS REFERRED THE MATTER TO FIFA FOR INVESTIGATION. THE WOMEN'S BLACK STICKS HAVE TAKEN A SECOND-HALF THUMPING TO LOSE 4-0 TO ARGENTINA IN THEIR LATEST PRO LEAGUE MATCH THIS MORNING. NEW ZEALAND HELD STRONG IN THE FIRST TWO QUARTERS, LETTING ONE EARLY GOAL THROUGH. BUT ARGENTINA WEREN'T FINISHED, QUICKLY FINDING THE NET THREE TIMES IN THE SECOND HALF. GOOD PLAY. FABULOUS. ARGENTINA HAVE SEALED THE DEAL HERE. WHAT A SHOT. THE KIWIS HAVE LITTLE TIME TO REST FACING BELGIUM TOMORROW. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY ` A RAINY START UP HERE. THIS BECOMES HEAVY AND THUNDERY IN THE AFTERNOON FOR SOME OF YOU. 16 THE HIGH IN KAITAIA. FURTHER SOUTH ` CLOUDY FOR YOU WITH SCATTERED SHOWERS. EXPECT THIS RAIN TO BUILD AND BECOME HEAVIER INTO YOUR EVENING. 17 THE HIGH FOR TAURANGA. TO THE EAST COAST ` YOU'LL GET A MOSTLY FINE MORNING. RAIN DEVELOPING INTO THE AFTERNOON, HEAVY FOR GISBORNE. 15 THE HIGH FOR MOST OF YOU. OVER TO THE WEST ` LOOKING VERY DIFFERENT HERE. NEW PLYMOUTH AND TAUMARUNUI GET SOME HIGH CLOUD, BUT EVERYONE ELSE WILL ENJOY BLUE SKIES. WHANGANUI, YOUR HIGH IS 19. TO THE SOUTH ISLAND ` SIMILAR HERE. EXPECT THE ODD SHOWER IN NELSON THIS MORNING. LOOKING FINE FOR EVERYONE ELSE. HEADING SOUTH ` A VERY CLOUDY START TO YOUR MORNING. EXPECT THIS HIGH CLOUD TO LINGER INTO THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING. 12 THE HIGH FOR TIMARU. TO THE DEEP SOUTH ` YOU'LL WAKE UP TO HIGH CLOUD THIS MORNING. THIS WILL CLEAR TO A BEAUTIFUL AFTERNOON FOR MOST OF YOU. QUEENSTOWN, YOUR HIGH IS 10. THANKS VERY MUCH, SAM. DO YOU KNOW WHO'S STACKING YOUR SUPERMARKET SHELVES? OR WHO'S PASSING THE FRIES OUT THE MCDONALD'S DRIVE THROUGH WINDOW ON A LATE NIGHT? WELL, IT COULD BE A TEENAGER WHO RIGHT NOW IS PUTTING ON THEIR SCHOOL UNIFORM, GOING TO CLASS, AND JUGGLING SCHOOL WORK ALONGSIDE THEIR FULL TIME JOB. 1 NEWS IN DEPTH MULTIMEDIA REPORTER INDIRA STEWART TOOK A LOOK INTO THIS MATTER. HERE'S WHAT SHE FOUND. AND THEN COMING HOME AND FINISHING OFF ASSESSMENTS THAT I COULDN'T DO WHILE I WAS WORKING. AND, YEAH, THAT WOULD TAKE ME TILL MIDNIGHT TOO. GOING ONE, OR TWO, THREE AT THE LATEST. NORMALLY YOU GO TO SLEEP AT MIDNIGHT OR EVEN 1 O'CLOCK TO CATCH UP WITH HOMEWORK EVEN. SO SOMETIMES IT WILL BE LATER, MAINLY 2am, 3am FROM DOING ASSESSMENTS AFTER WORK. BUT IT'S NOT JUST HIGH SCHOOLERS WORKING ALL NIGHT TO SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES, BUT UNIVERSITY STUDENTS TOO. WE'RE JOINED NOW BY RICHARD PAMATATAU FROM AUT, AND JOURNALIST INDIRA STEWART. SHE IS A FORMER BREAKFAST PRESENTER WITH US. IT IS WEIRD BEING BACK ON THE COUCH. IT FEELS VERY HOMELY. INDIRA, AND GRADUATIONS TOGETHER THE STORY. THINGS START TO SPIRAL NOW, RICHARD. WE ARE BRINGING UNIVERSITY STUDENTS INTO THE MIX AS WELL. THERE ARE PROBABLY A LOT OF PARENTS THAT THINK WHY SHOULDN'T UNIVERSITY STUDENTS GET A JOB. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ORDINARY JOBS. WE NEED A BROADER CONTEXT. WE NOTICED IN 2012, 2013, 2014, THE STUDENTS WERE STARTING TO DO 20 HOURS A WEEK, 25 HOURS A WEEK, 30 HOURS A WEEK, SO THE IMPACT ON THEIR STUDY AND THEIR ABILITY TO LEARN IS A REALLY BIG IMPACT. WE WOULD SAY TO THE STUDENTS, YOU NEED TO WORK LESS. THIS IS YOUR ONE CHANCE TO GET A GOOD DEGREE AND GROUND YOURSELF FOR MOVING ON. BUT THE STUDENTS WOULD SAY ACTUALLY, MY PARENTS CANNOT AFFORD TO SUBSIDISE ME. I NEED TO WORK. WHAT WE ARE NOTICING NOW POST PANDEMIC OF SOME STUDENTS ARE WORKING 40 HOURS A WEEK. THEY ARE NOT COMING TO CLASS. THEY ARE ENGAGING WITH US. I WILL STAY WITH THE STUDENT, I HAVE NOT SEEN YOU IN TUTORIALS, SO DO I NEED TO KNOW SOMETHING? THEY WILL SAY THEY ARE DOING NIGHT SHIFTS FOUR NIGHTS A WEEK. WHAT CAN YOU DO ABOUT THAT? HERE ARE THESE KIDS, WITH A SECONDARY SCHOOL OF TERTIARY EDUCATION, AND THEY ARE COMMITTED TO THEIR FAMILIES, AND WE SHOULD BE CELEBRATING THAT ON ONE SIDE, BUT THE OTHER PART IS THE IMPACT IT IS HAVING. THE TEACHING TEAM IS BEING REALLY FLEXIBLE. EXTENSIONS ARE AVAILABLE. YOU STILL NEED TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, AND WE WILL WORK WITH YOU. WE DO A LOT OF ONE-ON-ONE, ZOOM, INSTAGRAM, WHATEVER. BUT THE BROADER CONVERSATION WE NEED TO HAVE IS THAT THESE KIDS ARE LIKE INFRASTRUCTURE. NEW ZEALANDERS GENERALLY ARE WHINING AND WHINGING AT THE MOMENT. THE COUNCIL HAS NOT DONE ENOUGH, THE GOVERNMENT HAS NOT DONE ENOUGH. THESE KIDS ARE OUR FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND IF WE DO NOT LOOK AFTER THEM AND ENGAGE AND MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM, THEN WE ARE SHORTCHANGING OURSELVES AND OUR TAX BASE, WHICH IS HOW WE PAY FOR HOSPITALS, ROADS, EDUCATION, EVERYTHING. IT WILL BE ERODED. THE COUNTRY NEEDS TO HAVE A BIGGER CONVERSATION. AT THE UNIVERSITY LEVEL LECTURERS LIKE ME CAN WORK ONE-ON-ONE AND SAY YES, YOU CAN HAVE A EXTENSION, BUT THE BROADER CONVERSATION IS TO HAPPEN. THAT IS THE CHALLENGE FOR GOVERNMENT. THAT IS THE CHALLENGE FOR THE WHOLE COUNTRY. ANNUAL RESEARCH, INDIRA, FOR THAT STORY, ARE YOU FINDING THAT SOME OF THE KIDS YOU ARE SPEAKING TO, THEY ARE HAVING TO WORK BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT JUST TRYING TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES BUT THEY ARE TRYING TO SUPPORT THEIR WAY TO WHANAU. I WILL BE REALLY CAREFUL NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF ALL OF THE KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY OUT OF RESPECT FOR THEM, BUT IT WAS NOT JUST ABOUT WORKING FOR THEMSELVES; IT WAS PREDOMINANTLY ABOUT HAVING TO SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES, HELPING THEIR FAMILIES. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BLEW US AWAY THE MOST ABOUT THESE KIDS AS THEY DID IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT WAS REALLY HONOURABLE. THEY HAD LOYALTY TO THEIR FAMILIES. THEY WERE VERY RESPECTFUL. THERE WAS NO WHINGING OR WHINING. IT WAS THINGS LIKE THEIR MOTHER OR FATHER PASSED AWAY AND THE OTHER PARENT IS NOW A SINGLE PARENT AND THEY WILL DO ANYTHING TO HELP THEM. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE TELL THEIR STORIES AND THEY FOUND EMPOWERED, BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING ABOUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES, DO NOT HAVE OUT OF THEIR OWN, THAT THEY NEEDED TO BE ASHAMED OF, BUT WE WANTED THE REST OF THE COUNTRY TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE NARRATIVES BEHIND US. NO SHAME. THEY NEED TO BE APPLAUDED. BUT THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO. THAT IS THE BIG THING. THAT IS THE BROADER QUESTION. SO FAR, PEOPLE THINK IT IS MAORI OR PACIFIC STUDENTS, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, IT IS FIRST AND FAMILY, MIDDLE-CLASS ADJACENT FAMILIES OR THE FAMILY WHERE A PARENT WAS A MARKETING DIRECTOR AND THE COMPANY HAS RESTRUCTURED. THEY HAVE A BIG MORTGAGE, AND PEOPLE ARE DIGGING IN. BEING KIWIS, EVERYBODY IS WORKING TO KEEP THE FAMILY GOING. BUT IT IS A REALLY BIG ISSUE. THIS IS INFRASTRUCTURE. AS A SOCIAL, INTELLECTUAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS AT RISK HERE. YOU TALK ABOUT HAVING A WIDER CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS, AND AS A LECTURER, YOU ARE DOING WHAT YOU CAN, AND THEY CAN, IN TERMS OF LOOKING AFTER THEIR STUDENTS, BUT IN TERMS OF THE BIGGER CONVERSATION, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THE GOVERNMENT, POLITICAL PARTIES NEED TO BE THINKING, HOW CAN I MAKE THE COUNTRY BETTER? WE WANT BETTER ROADS. WE WANT BETTER DRAINS. WE WANT BETTER PEOPLE. WE WANT TO UPGRADE AND UP SKILL THE PEOPLE. IT IS REALLY SIMPLE. THAT NARRATIVE OF PEOPLE NEED TO PULL THEMSELVES UP BY THEIR BOOTSTRAPS NEEDS TO BE DROPPED. WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. AND ALSO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE TAX BASE. THERE ARE SOCIAL PEOPLE WITHIN THE TAX STRUCTURE, THOSE ULTRA RICH PEOPLE, WHO DO NOT PAY AS MUCH TAX AS THESE PEOPLE. SO WE NEED TO HAVE A BIG CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT ABOUT UP SKILLING OUR NEXT GENERATION, BECAUSE WE SEE MANY OF OUR VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES, THEY ARE WORKING AT LOWER SKILLED AND LOWER PAID JOBS, AS ONCE YOU GO OUT INTO THE WORKFORCE IS, THE LIKELIHOOD OF YOU STAYING THERE ARE NEVER UP SKILLING AGAIN IS SO HIGH ON OUR OWN COMMUNITIES, AND YOU END UP WITH THE NEXT GENERATION OF WORKING POOR, ANOTHER WORKING-CLASS GENERATION, SO IT IS OKAY FOR US TO KEEP THESE CHILDREN IN SCHOOL FOR AS LONG AS WE CAN. THEY NEED A CHANCE TO INVEST IN THEIR OWN FUTURES. IT DOES FLOW THROUGH INTO CLASS AND SANCTION, AND IN GRAINS LOWS AND DISTINCTIONS IN TERMS OF THE HAVES AND HAVE-NOTS IN OUR COMMUNITIES. IF YOU CANNOT GET AN EDUCATION BECAUSE YOU ARE HAVING TO WORK 40 HOURS A WEEK AS YOU MENTIONED, AND HAVING TRIED UNIVERSITY ONCE, THAT IS OWNER IS. 40 HOURS OF WORK ON TOP OF STUDY. IT IS AN ECONOMIC CONVERSATION. WE INVEST IN SECONDARY SCHOOL. WE HAVE A COHORT COMING THROUGH. LET'S BUILD ON THAT INVESTMENT, BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL PAID TAX WE CAN HAVE TEACHERS. FOR ME, IT COMES BACK TO THE TAX BASE. AND IT COMES BACK TO HAVING A MORE EDUCATED, MORE SOPHISTICATED SOCIETY THAT MAKES IT BETTER FOR ALL OF US TO BE. IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT. WE HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS, BUT I JUST WONDER WHETHER WE FINISH ON HOW IMPORTANT WAS IT FOR THE STORY TO BE TOLD. CRITICAL STORY. ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL, BECAUSE IT SHEDS LIGHT ON SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE OF. IT IS POSSIBLY, I WOULD SAY, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT STORIES FOR NEW ZEALAND THIS YEAR. THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING WITH US, AND THANK YOU, INDIRA, AS ALWAYS, BEAUTIFUL TO SEE YOU BACK ON BREAKFAST WITH YOUR BRILLIANT WORK. IN-DEPTH MULTIMEDIA REPORTER. WHATEVER THAT MEANS. THANK YOU TO YOU BOTH. ME U TONU MAI. STAY WITH US. AFTER THE BREAK ` THE STORY OF QUEENSLAND'S CROCODILE SERIAL KILLER IS BACK. UP NEXT, WE'RE JOINED BY THE MAN WHO SAYS HE'S GOT CLUES AS TO WHO MIGHT HAVE COMMITTED THE CRIME. IT'S A CURIOUS CASE, THE RATHER HORRIFYING MYSTERY SURROUNDING A POTENTIAL CROC KILLER ON THE LOOSE IN QUEENSLAND. THE STATE'S ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATING AFTER A SECOND CROCODILE WAS FOUND DISMEMBERED. NOW A WARNING THAT THIS MAY BE AN UPSETTING CHAT, WITH PHOTOS. IN THE LATEST DEVELOPMENTS, A LOCAL TOUR OPERATOR RECEIVING A POSSIBLE TIP FROM SOMEONE WHO CLAIMS TO BE THE KILLER. WE'RE JOINED NOW BY SOLAR WHISPER WILDLIFE AND CROCODILE CRUISES OWNER DAVID WHITE BEAMING IN FROM FAR NORTH QUEENSLAND. GOOD MORNING, DAVID! THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. I KNOW YOU ARE UP EARLY. TELL ME ` YOU WERE THE PERSON THAT DISCOVERED ONE OF THESE CROCODILES. YES. IT IS HORRIBLE. I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE RIVER A LONG TIME, 26 YEARS, AND MY FAVOURITE FEMALE CROCODILE BEER, WE NAMED THE CROCODILES AND WE KNOW THEM VERY WELL, HER NAME WAS ELIZABETH, AND WE FOUND HER DISMEMBERED BODY ON THE LAKE. NOT FAR FROM OUR WALK. DID YOU KNOW WHAT HAD HAPPENED WHEN YOU FIRST SAW WHAT YOU RECOGNISED AS CROCODILE REMAINS, DID YOU KNOW THAT IT WAS HER? COULD YOU WORK OUT WHAT HAD HAPPENED? AT FIRST, I WAS NOT SURE. IT WAS JUST AHEAD AND A SPINE. WE DO TAKE LOTS OF PHOTOS OVER THE YEARS, BUT OVER TWO DECADES WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING HER, AND WE LOOKED AT THE MARKINGS ON THE HEAD, AND IT WAS STILL IN GOOD CONDITION. DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE, BUT WE REALISED THAT THE MARKINGS MATCHED UP WITH POOR LIZZIE. AT FIRST I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WAS NATURAL, BUT IT IS THE FIRST TIME IN ALL OF THESE YEARS THAT I HAVE SEEN A FEMALE CROCODILE ON THE RIVER, THEY ARE A VERY LONG-LIVED ANIMAL. OVER 100 YEARS AS POSSIBLE. AT FIRST I THOUGHT MAYBE ANOTHER CROCODILE HAD DONE IT. AND THEN I REALISED TALKING TO OTHER PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD AND AUSTRALIA THAT WHENEVER THEY HAVE HAD A DEAD ONE, IT FLOATS AROUND FOR QUITE A WHILE. AND THIS HAD JUST APPEARED. WHEN WE HAVE SEEN IT, DOES EAT DEAD PIGS, THEY REALLY SHAKE THEM AROUND. WE REALISED IT WAS PROBABLY SOME SICK HUMAN. ON THAT NOTE, YOU HAVE RECEIVED A VERY STRANGE PHONE CALL. TELL ME ABOUT IT. UNFORTUNATELY, THE SICK INDIVIDUAL RANG ME UP. HE RANG ONE OF THE OTHER OPERATORS AS WELL. HE SAID HE WAS THE APEX PREDATOR, NOT THE CROCODILE. HE ADMITTED IT BASICALLY. HE SAID HE HAD GIVEN THE MEAT TO HIS DOG. IT WAS AN ANONYMOUS PHONE CALL. WE DO NOT KNOW WHO IT WAS. IT DISTURBED ME. I'M ASSUMING YOU REPORTED THIS. DID YOU BELIEVE THE GUY? YES. WE SAID WHERE THE BODY WAS FOUND. AND HE CORRECTED ME AND KNEW EXACTLY WHERE IT WAS. HE ALSO SAID HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR ANOTHER ONE THAT HAD BEEN KILLED AND BE HEADED ABOUT A MONTH EARLIER. NOT FAR AWAY, BUT NOT IN OUR RIVER. IT IS A VERY WORRYING THING. DID THAT ONE CHECKOUT? HAD YOU HEARD OF THAT SECOND CROCODILE BEFORE YOU GOT THIS PHONE CALL? YES. THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT IS INVESTIGATING THAT AS WELL. UNFORTUNATELY, THE CROCODILE THAT WAS LIVING IN A CREEK BEHIND A BEACH, AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. THE DEPARTMENT SAID IT WAS ITS NATURAL HABITAT AND ENVIRONMENT. THEY COULD NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. UNFORTUNATELY THIS PERSON GOT RID OF IT. THEY TOOK MATTERS INTO THEIR OWN HANDS. CROCODILES DO HAVE A BIT OF A FEARSOME REPUTATION, AND IF YOU ARE A TOURIST, THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO SEE ` THE SNAPPING JAWS AND FIND OUT ALL ABOUT THE DANGEROUS AND WONDERFUL CREATURES. YOU HAVE JUST POINTED OUT THAT LOCALS CAN FIND THEM A BIT OF A DISRUPTION TO EVERYDAY LIFE. TELL ME WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCE IS WITH A CROCODILE. I AM ASSUMING YOU HAVE QUITE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE TO MOST PEOPLE. UNFORTUNATELY, CROCODILES ARE VERY MISUNDERSTOOD ANIMALS. EVERYONE THINKS THEY ARE KILLING MACHINES AND EVERYONE IS AT RISK ALL OF THE TIME. IT IS VERY EASY TO LIVE WITH THEM. THEY JUST LIE AROUND MOST OF THE TIME. THEY ARE REPTILES. THEY ARE SLEEPING MOST OF THE TIME. THEY EAT FISH AND CRABS MOST OF THE TIME. THEY ARE OPPORTUNISTIC, AND THAT IS WHAT MAKES THEM DANGEROUS. KILLING MEMBERS NOT MAKE THE WORLD A SAFER PLACE. WE HAVE TO LEARN TO LIVE WITH THEM. IT IS ALL ABOUT EDUCATION NOT ERADICATION. THEY ARE A RECOVERING SPECIES FROM BEING HUNTED ALMOST TO EXTINCTION. THEY ARE ALMOST BACK TO THE NUMBERS THAT THE ENVIRONMENT CAN HANDLE. THEY ARE RETURNING TO THEIR NORMAL HABITAT AND SOME OF THOSE PLACES, AND SOME OF THEM ARE PLACES THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN CROCODILES SINCE THE 70S AND 60S. THEY WERE HUNTED ALMOST TO EXTINCTION. THEY COMING BACK TO THE NORMAL HABITAT, AND SOME OF THOSE PLACES ARE PEOPLE'S FAVOURITE CEMENT SPOTS OR PLACES WHERE THEY LIKE TO PICK MCCANN THANKS. THERE IS NOTHING MUCH WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. THERE IS OR WAS GOING TO BE ANOTHER ONE COMING BACK TO TAKE THE PLACE OF ONE THAT IS TAKEN AWAY. IT IS THE ONES THAT YOU DO NOT SEE THAT YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT. IT IS ALL ABOUT EDUCATION. IT IS PRETTY SIMPLE ` DO NOT GO SWIMMING WHETHER CROCODILES ARE. THERE ARE SOME VERY LOVELY SWIMMING SPOTS WHERE THE WATER IS TOO COLD FOR THE CROCODILES. JUST DO NOT SWIM IN THE PLACES WHERE THE WATER IS WARMER. YOU HAVE TO TAKE THIS INTO PERSPECTIVE. MORE PEOPLE DAIICHI AND AUSTRALIA FROM DOGS AND CROCODILES. THEY ARE NOT THE KILLING MACHINE EVERYONE THINK THEY ARE. THEY ARE ALL SOME CREATURES WHEN YOU GET TO KNOW THEM. WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE THEM. I WILL TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. A MURI I NGA WHAKATAIRANGA. AFTER THE BREAK ` YOUR 8.30 NEWS, SPORT AND WEATHER. PLUS, THE FUTURE OF RUAPEHU IS HANGING IN THE BALANCE. SO HOW DO THE HAPU FEEL ABOUT IT? MORE ON THAT NEXT. WELCOME BACK, IT'S 831. THE U.S. COAST GUARD HAS EXPANDED ITS SEARCH FOR THE MISSING SUBMERSIBLE IN THE ATLANTIC OCEAN INTO DEEPER WATERS. WITH, AT BEST, LESS THAN 40 HOURS OF OXYGEN LEFT, SEARCH TEAMS ARE RACING AGAINST TIME TO RESCUE FIVE PASSENGERS ON BOARD THE UNDERWATER VESSEL. THE SUB DISAPPEARED DURING AN EXPEDITION TO THE WRECK OF THE TITANIC, WHICH IS ABOUT 640km OFF THE CANADIAN COAST AND 3800m DEEP. IT'S A HUGELY COMPLEX SEABED THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE. AND YOU'VE GOT THIS TINY OBJECT THAT'S SITTING ALONGSIDE, POSSIBLY, THE TITANIC. THE SORT OF REMOTE OPERATING VEHICLES THEY'RE USING, IT'S LIKE PLOWING A FIELD. AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM ALL DAY JUST TO DO ONE FIELD ` UP AND DOWN, UP AND DOWN. I'M AFRAID TO SAY THAT, EVEN IF WE LOCATE IT, THE TIME IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO ACTUALLY BRING IT TO THE SURFACE, I THINK, IS GOING TO BE TOO LONG. AND I HATE TO BE PESSIMISTIC, BUT ALL THE INDICATIONS ARE THAT WE MUST PREPARE OURSELVES FOR THE WORST HERE. CONTACT WAS LOST ON MONDAY, AN HOUR AND 45 MINUTES INTO ITS DIVE. AFTER MAKING ROOM FOR HER COUSIN MEKA WHAITIRI TO TAKE HER SEAT FOR TE PATI MAORI, HEATHER SKIPWORTH HAS ANNOUNCED SHE WON'T BE STANDING FOR THE PARTY THIS ELECTION. SKIPWORTH WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO CONTEST THE IKAROA-RAWHITI SEAT UNTIL WHAITIRI JUMPED SHIP. SHE HAD THEN PLANNED TO REPRESENT THE TUKITUKI SEAT. HOWEVER FOR 'PERSONAL REASONS' SKIPWORTH HAS STEPPED DOWN AND SAYS SHE'S TAKING A 'POLITICAL PAUSE'. A TRUCK IS BLOCKING LANES LEADING INTO WELLINGTON CBD AFTER IT HIT A BRIDGE. THE CRASH OCCURED AT 6.30am NEAR THE THORNDON QUAY OFF-RAMP ON HUTT RD. TRAFFIC IS REPORTED TO BE MODERATE TO HEAVY. POLICE ARE URGING PEOPLE TO AVOID TRAVEL OR CONSIDER AN ALTERNATE ROUTE. A CLIMATE ACTIVIST SAYS SHE NEVER THOUGHT HER 'FUNNY LETTER' WOULD END UP IN POTENTIAL JAIL TIME. ROSEMARY PENWARDEN WROTE A LETTER TO OIL EXECS ATTENDING A PETROLEUM CONFERENCE IN 2019, SAYING THE MEETING HAD BEEN POSTPONED. IT INCLUDED LINES SUCH AS 'ACTIVISTS HAVE DISCOVERED THIS YEAR'S 'CONFERENCE AND WERE YET AGAIN PLANNING NOISE AND DISRUPTION.' SHE'S NOW FACING UP TO 10 YEARS IN JAIL FOR THE OFFENCE. I THINK IT WAS A LITTLE WE LAY TO PRETEND TO BE THEM BUT WHAT IT WAS REALLY TO DO WAS TO EXPOSE THE BIG LIE. THEY'VE BEEN DENYING CLIMATE CHANGE, THEY'VE BEEN CAUSING DOUBT, AND THEY'VE BEEN USING THIS CLEVER LITTLE CARBON FOOTPRINT TRACK TO TRY AND TURN US INDIVIDUALS INTO THE GUILTY ONES. SENTENCING WILL TAKE PLACE IN SEPTEMBER. A LIQUIDATION HEARING WILL BE HELD AT THE HIGH COURT IN AUCKLAND TODAY ON THE FUTURE OF MT RUAPEHU'S SKI FIELDS. IT FOLLOWS A MEETING WITH CREDITORS YESTERDAY. THE DISTRICT'S MAYOR WESTON KIRTON SAYS PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES ARE 'BLEEDING' FINANCIALLY, BUT THE COMMUNITY ARE NOW BYSTANDERS TO THE PROCESS. VERY CONCERNED, OF COURSE. THERE WAS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY. YESTERDAY'S REACTION WAS JUST HUGE AND I THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT PEOPLE WILL BE WAKING UP THIS MORNING WITH A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY, WONDERING WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING NEXT. THEY'LL BE WAITING WITH JUST TO SEE WHAT THE HIGH COURT DO, WITH LIQUIDATORS. AND WE'LL HEAR AN IWI PERSPECTIVE ON THE FUTURE OF RUAPEHU IN A FEW MINUTES WHEN WE'RE JOINED BY A REPRESENTATIVE FROM NGATI HIKAIRO. THE SON OF U.S. PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN, HUNTER BIDEN, IS EXPECTED TO PLEAD GUILTY TO TWO MISDEMEANOUR TAX CRIMES AND ADMIT TO ILLEGALLY POSSESSING A GUN WHILE USING DRUGS. THE U.S. ATTORNEY HAS FILED PAPERS INDICATING A PLEA DEAL HAS BEEN REACHED FOLLOWING A FIVE-YEAR INVESTIGATION. HUNTER BIDEN IS ALSO EXPECTED TO AGREE TO DRUG TREATMENT. THE AGREEMENT IS LIKELY TO KEEP HIM OUT OF JAIL, BUT THE PROPOSAL STILL NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY A JUDGE. IT IS UNCLEAR WHEN HUNTER BIDEN WILL APPEAR IN COURT. TO SPORT ` NEW ZEALAND FOOTBALL SAYS ITS PLAYERS WEREN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR RACIAL ABUSE IN YESTERDAY'S ABANDONED FRIENDLY WITH QATAR. THE SECOND HALF OF THE MATCH DIDN'T GO AHEAD AFTER OFFICIALS FAILED TO ACT ON AN ALLEGED RACIAL SLUR DIRECTED AT ALL WHITE DEFENDER MICHAEL BOXALL. IN A STATEMENT RELEASED THIS MORNING, THE QATAR FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION STATED NO RACIAL OR DISCRIMINATORY LANGUAGE WAS USED BY ITS PLAYERS, AND CLAIMED RACIAL ABUSE WAS AIMED AT THEM. NEW ZEALAND FOOTBALL HAS REFERRED THE MATTER TO FIFA FOR INVESTIGATION. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY ` A RAINY START UP HERE. THIS BECOMES HEAVY AND THUNDERY IN THE AFTERNOON FOR SOME OF YOU. 16 THE HIGH IN KAITAIA. 15 FOR RUSSELL. FURTHER SOUTH ` CLOUDY FOR YOU WITH SCATTERED SHOWERS. EXPECT THIS RAIN TO BUILD AND BECOME HEAVIER INTO YOUR EVENING. HAMILTON, YOUR HIGH AS 16. TO THE EAST COAST ` YOU'LL GET A MOSTLY FINE MORNING. RAIN DEVELOPING INTO THE AFTERNOON, HEAVY FOR GISBORNE. 15 THE HIGH FOR MOST OF YOU. 14 FOR DANNEVIRKE. OVER TO THE WEST ` LOOKING VERY DIFFERENT HERE. NEW PLYMOUTH AND TAUMARUNUI GET SOME HIGH CLOUD, BUT EVERYONE ELSE WILL ENJOY BLUE SKIES. 15 FOR WELLINGTON. TO THE SOUTH ISLAND ` SIMILAR HERE. EXPECT THE ODD SHOWER IN NELSON THIS MORNING. LOOKING FINE FOR EVERYONE ELSE. GREY MOUTH, YOUR HIGH IS 17. HEADING SOUTH ` A VERY CLOUDY START TO YOUR MORNING. EXPECT THIS HIGH CLOUD TO LINGER INTO THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING. 12 THE HIGH FOR TIMARU. TO THE DEEP SOUTH ` YOU'LL WAKE UP TO HIGH CLOUD THIS MORNING. THIS WILL CLEAR TO A BEAUTIFUL AFTERNOON FOR MOST OF YOU. TAHUNA QUEENSTOWN, YOUR HIGH IS 10. LIQUIDATION IS EXPECTED VIA THE HIGH COURT TODAY FOR THE OPERATOR OF WHAKAPAPA AND TUROA SKI-FIELDS AFTER NO DEAL COULD BE REACHED DESPITE A FOUR-HOUR CRISIS MEETING YESTERDAY. OPINIONS ARE DIVIDED ON THE FUTURE. EARLIER, WE HEARD FROM RUAPEHU DISTRICT MAYOR WHO BELIEVES LIQUIDATION COULD ALLOW A NEW BIDDER TO STEP IN, BUT MANA WHENUA AND IWI HOLD INTERESTS IN THIS WHOLE AREA TOO. AND JOINING US NOW IS NGATI HIKAIRO CULTURAL AND ENVIRONMENT REP SHANE ISHERWOOD WHO IS IN TURANGI. MORENA, SHANE. HOW ARE YOU DOING? I'M FINE THANK YOU. GOOD MAN, YOU ARE THESE TODAY. TELL US WHAT HAPPENED INSIDE THAT MEETING. A KIND OF RESEMBLED A MINI ELECTION WITH QUESTIONS THAT WEREN'T BEING ANSWERED. THERE WERE PROMISES THAT WERE BEING MADE AND WENT TO VOTING. I DON'T THINK PEOPLE EXPECTED THE RESULT THAT WAS GIVEN. WE WERE STUNNED MULLETS. TELL US ABOUT THAT VOTING PROCESS, BECAUSE IT'S VERY COMPLICATED ISN'T IT? DO YOU FEEL HIJACKED? NO, IT WAS CONFUSING. THERE WERE LIFE PASS HOLDERS WHO WERE SHAREHOLDERS WHO WERE ALLOWED TO VOTE AND THAT CAUSE A LOT OF FRICTION IN THE ROOM. AND OUT OF THE 14,000 LIFE PASS HOLDERS, NOT EVERYONE DID VOTE. WE WOULD HAVE EXPECTED IT TO BE A LANDSLIDE BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT WASN'T. THE LIFE PASS HOLDERS ASSOCIATION PUT UP A VERY GOOD PROPOSAL AND THEY WERE THE ONES WHO HAVE KEPT THE IWI AND HAPU INFORMED. WE WERE, AND ARE SUPPORTING THEM BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WE'VE HEARD. COMMUNICATION THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE ORDEAL WAS RELATIVELY POOR. WE BOTH MET ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS. DOES THAT FACTOR INTO THE DECISION BEING MADE AND ARE HEADING TO THE HIGH COURT? I THINK IT DID. WE WERE CONTACTED AT THE 11TH HOUR. WE HADN'T SPOKEN BEFORE AND THIS IS BEEN GOING ON FOR MONTHS. A COUPLE OF DAYS TO GO AND THEY CALL US AND WANT TO TALK TO US. WE FELT THAT WE JUST BECAME A TICK OFF. THAT DIDN'T SIT WELL WITH ALL OF US AND WE NEEDED MORE TIME AT THEY SHOULD HAVE CONSULTED US AT THE VERY BEGINNING AND MAYBE THERE WOULD BE A DIFFERENT RESULT. BUT THE WAY IT WAS, THIS IS THE END RESULT TRAGEDY. WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN NOW? AT SUCH A VITAL SKI FIELD FOR THE COMMUNITY AND BRINGS IN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE WILL HAPPEN AND WHAT EFFECT WILL HAPPEN IF THE MOUNTAIN IS NOT OPEN IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS? IT WILL AFFECT THE WHOLE REGION RIGHT AROUND THE MAUNGA. THOUSANDS OF JOBS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL IS ON THE MOUNTAIN. IT IS SAD TO BE THERE YESTERDAY THE GIFT OF THE MOUNTAIN WAS FOR PEOPLE TO ENJOY AND TO SEE WHAT I WAS WITNESSING YESTERDAY WAS DISHARMONY AND SORROW. THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. WE NEED TO COME BACK TO THE TABLE, ALL OF US, AND TALK LIKE ADULTS AND BE SENSIBLE ABOUT IT BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH AT STAKE. EMPLOYMENT THAT CAN HAPPEN IT WOULD JUST BE DEVASTATING FOR OUR WHOLE REGION. MAYBE I WILL BUY IT. YOU HAVE DECADES OF EXPERIENCE DOWN THERE, SHANE, YOU AND YOUR WIFE HAVE 60 YEARS EXPERIENCE ON THE MOUNTAIN? WE HAVE 66 YEARS COLLECTIVELY AND WITH OUR KIDS 70 ODD YEARS WITH OUR FAMILY ALONE. WE HAVE IWI THAT WORK ON THAT MOUNTAIN AND IT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD, IT IS EVERYTHING. IT IS A PLEASURE IN ITSELF. WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE WILL HAPPEN AT THE HIGH COURT TODAY? IT WILL PROBABLY BE LIQUIDATED, DO YOU THINK SOMEONE CAN COME IN THE NEXT THREE WEEKS AND SUCCESSFULLY SAVE THE MOUNTAIN? ONE OF THE SCENARIOS THAT I SAW AND HEARD LAST NIGHT WAS THAT ONE OF THE GROUPS THAT PUT ON A BED WERE SAYING THAT IF THE GOVERNMENT WILL THROW MONEY AROUND THEN KEEP THE PEOPLE THERE AND SUPPORT THEM, THE MOUNTING OF FIRE UP AGAIN TOMORROW AND MAYBE JUST CHANGE A FEW THINGS AT THE TOP, MAYBE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, ADMINISTRATORS. SIT DOWN AND TALK IT CAN BE SALVAGED. I UNDERSTAND IF THE GOVERNMENT WAS PREPARED TO THROW MONEY TO PRIVATE ENTERPRISES WHO WERE BETTING, WHY NOT GIVE IT TO THE COMMUNITY? RSSA WHO HAVE BEEN PROFOUNDLY PROFICIENT, THEY DON'T WANT TO OWN AT LET'S BE ADULTS ABOUT THIS. LET'S ALL COME TOGETHER AND TALK SENSIBLY. NO ONE'S LIFE IS AT STAKE SURELY THEY CAN JUST ADJOURN IT. THE IDEAL SITUATION THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD HAPPEN WAS TO LET THE 2023 SEASON GO AHEAD AND WE ALL SIT DOWN AND TALK JOBS OR STILL BE SAVED PEOPLE WILL BE HAPPY. MAYBE BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR BEFORE THE SEASON STARTS, WE WILL HAVE A SOLUTION. BECAUSE WE HAVE VERY GOOD AND KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE OVER THE YEARS AND I AM CAUGHT BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE BECAUSE TWO OF THE MAIN MEN IN BOTH PARTIES ARE PERSONAL FRIENDS OF MINE DAVE MAJOR WAS MY BOSS FOR NEARLY 30 YEARS AND SAM CLASS HAS BEEN A BUDDY FOR MANY YEARS THEY HAVE GOOD SOLUTIONS. LET'S HOPE THOSE COME TO THE TABLE AND WE CAN FIND A SOLUTION. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. E WHAI AKE NEI, COMING UP ` IT'S THE TVNZ EXTRAVAGANZA THAT'S ALL ABOUT CELEBRATING MATARIKI. WE'LL HAVE ALL THE DETAILS NEXT. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. IN CELEBRATION OF MATARIKI, TVNZ AND TIKTOK ARE JOINING FORCES IN A SPECTACULAR MUSIC EVENT. STARS OF MATARIKI WILL SEE SOME OF OUR COUNTRY'S BIGGEST AND BRIGHTEST STARS PERFORM IN A GROUNDBREAKING LIVE-STREAMED PERFORMANCE. MUSICIAN DAME HINEWEHI MOHI JOINS US NOW. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. (SPEAKS MAORI) IT'S JUST A DELIGHT AT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR ESPECIALLY AS WE SHIFT UP A GEAR FOR THOSE WHO HAVE PASSED. MY KUIA PAST THIS YEAR. AND TO GO INTO THE FUTURE OF THESE BRIGHT YOUNG THINGS WITH THIS EVENT. AS MATARIKI APPROACHES, IT IS ABOUT REMEMBERING THOSE WHO HAVE PASSED BUT ALSO THINKING OF WHAT IS TO BE. IT IS AN AMAZING CONCERT WHICH INVOLVES SOME AMAZING ARTISTS. WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO SHOWCASE OUR STARS? MUSIC IS SO POWERFUL. I THINK WHAT WE HAVE DISCOVERED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS IS THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING INSIDE AND OUT ISOLATION IN THE SOUTH PACIFIC, WE REALLY CELEBRATED OURSELVES AND OUR OWN STORYTELLING AND OUR UNIQUE WAY OF EXPRESSING OURSELVES SO THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF THAT. ALSO ACKNOWLEDGING THE LEGACY AND RICH WAIATA THAT HAVE COME BEFORE. AND THROUGH THE DECADES HAS BEEN A REALLY POWERFUL FORCE IN THESE ARTIST THAT WILL BE PERFORMING A MAGNIFICENT AND IT IS REALLY A STATEMENT TO OUR UNIQUE IDENTITY, OUR CULTURAL HERITAGE AND HOW WE CAN EXPRESS IT THROUGH MUSIC. BUT ALL THAT ASIDE, THIS IS A WONDERFUL TIME OF THE YEAR. I'M FEELING VERY SPECIAL ABOUT BEING THE FIRST NATION IN THE WORLD TO CELEBRATE AN INDIGENOUS FESTIVAL OF THIS KIND. SECOND YEAR AND, WE WANTED TO REALLY CREATE SOMETHING SPECIAL ` MUSICAL EXTRAVAGANZA. THESE ARE PICTURES OF THE EVENT HELD LAST YEAR. I WAS WONDERING, AS WE SIT HERE AND REFLECT ON SINGING IN MAORI BEING THE FIRST 1 TO DO THAT AND AS A RESULT, HERE WE ARE, WE SEEING BOTH VERSIONS OF THE NATIONAL ANTHEM. HAVING MAORI ARTISTS ON MAINSTREAM TELEVISION, WAS THAT SOMETHING YOU ENVISION WHEN YOU TOOK TO THAT STAGE? IT'S QUITE A DIFFERENT LANDSCAPE NOW. THOSE ARTISTS, ESPECIALLY COMING THROUGH THE 90S AND EARLY 2000S SINGING IN MAORI WAS NOT COMMON. BEAUTIFUL ARTISTS LIKE STAN WALKER WHO WAS ALSO PART OF THIS WONDERFUL KAUPAPA ON 14 JULY AS A CELEBRATION OF THE WAIATA SO EMBRACING THE LANGUAGE IN THE CULTURE AND BEING UNIQUE TO THE WHOLE OF NEW ZEALAND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WAIATA BEING TAKEN TO THE WORLD SO EVERYONE KNOWS HOW SPECIAL IT IS AND HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE EACH OTHER AND CAN SHOW OUR UNIQUE DIFFERENCES. APPRECIATE YOU. 14TH OF JULY PURAPURA WHETU. (SPEAKS MAORI) LOTS OF LOVE TO YOU. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS MORNING. WONDERFUL TO HAVE THE DAM AND THE QUEEN ON THE COUCH. THAT ULTRA RUNNER HAS NOW COVERED 400 MILES, HE HAS ESSENTIALLY RUN FROM AUCKLAND TO WELLINGTON. E HAERE AKE NEI ` AFTER THE BREAK, WE'RE BACK IN THE BEAUTIFUL ISLAND PARADISE OF SAMOA TO SAY TOFA TO MATT GIBB. AND TO HAVE THE STARS OF INDIRA'S STORY ARE OVER THERE AS WELL. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. THERE'S TRULY NOTHING THE SAMOAN PEOPLE LOVE MORE THAN TO EXTEND THEIR HOSPITALITY, SHARE THEIR STORIES, INCREDIBLE FOOD AND WAY OF LIFE WITH VISITORS FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD. SO WE'VE PARTNERED WITH SAMOA TOURISM TO GIVE YOU THIS EXPERIENCE. MATT GIBB IS THERE TO SHOW OFF ALL THERE IS TO OFFER. WHERE ARE YOU NOW, MATT? MORENA FOR THE VERY LAST TIME. I AM IN THE CAPITAL CITY. IT IS AN INCREDIBLE PLACE. IF YOU ARE IN THE PRIVILEGED POSITION OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE A HOLIDAY SOMEWHERE, MAKE SURE YOU LOOK AT SAMOA, BECAUSE THE SPACE HAS BEEN SO WELCOMING ALL WEEK. I HAVE BEEN TALKING WAY TOO MUCH THIS WEEK. FOR THIS LAST TIME COMING TO YOU LIVE FROM SAMOA, I THOUGHT WE MIGHT LEAVE YOU WITH A PERFORMANCE FROM THESE GUYS. WHY DON'T THEY TAKE IT AWAY? (ALL SING IN SAMOAN) (ALL SING IN SAMOAN) (UPBEAT PERCUSSIVE MUSIC) CAPTIONS BY PHOEBE UPTON, STACEY SPARY, COURTNEY SOLE AND JULIE TAYLOR. CAPTIONS WERE MADE WITH THE SUPPORT OF NZ ON AIR. WWW.ABLE.CO.NZ COPYRIGHT ABLE 2023 UNBELIEVABLE. UGH IT IS THIS? AN INCREDIBLE DESTINATION. MAKE SURE YOU GET IN THE DRAW. ENTER THE COMPETITION. YOU GET ALL OF YOUR MEALS AND FLIGHTS ARE TOO. MAKE SURE YOU GET IN THE DRAW. COME OVER HERE. THESE GUYS HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE. ANY LAST WORDS? KIWIS, PLEASE BOOK YOUR FLIGHT NOW. BEAUTIFUL SAMOA IS WAITING FOR YOU. GOODBYE. THANK YOU FROM SAMOA. WILL LET THESE GUYS TAKE IT AWAY. HERE WE GO. (ALL SING IN SAMOAN) THANK YOU, MATT FOR TAKING US THERE. I WOULD LOVE TO GET ACROSS THEIR ANY TIME. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME WITH US HERE ON BREAKFAST. FINALLY, UP THE BLUES. YOU CAN DO IT. CREATE SOME HISTORY TONIGHT WITH THE STATE OF ORIGIN. WE WILL SEE YOU TOMORROW. SAM HARVEY IS STILL RUNNING, BY THE WAY. UNTIL WHEN? UNTIL HE STOPS.