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Hosted by Jesse Mulligan, Kanoa Lloyd and Jeremy Corbett, The Project combines news and entertainment to provide audiences an intelligent, informative and engaging mix of the stories that matter.

Primary Title
  • The Project
Date Broadcast
  • Tuesday 22 August 2023
Start Time
  • 19 : 00
Finish Time
  • 19 : 30
Duration
  • 30:00
Channel
  • Three
Broadcaster
  • Warner Brothers Discovery New Zealand
Programme Description
  • Hosted by Jesse Mulligan, Kanoa Lloyd and Jeremy Corbett, The Project combines news and entertainment to provide audiences an intelligent, informative and engaging mix of the stories that matter.
Classification
  • Not Classified
Owning Collection
  • Chapman Archive
Broadcast Platform
  • Television
Languages
  • English
Captioning Languages
  • English
Captions
Live Broadcast
  • Yes
Rights Statement
  • Made for the University of Auckland's educational use as permitted by the Screenrights Licensing Agreement.
Genres
  • Current affairs
  • News
Hosts
  • Jeremy Corbett (Presenter)
  • Jesse Mulligan (Presenter)
  • Kanoa Lloyd (Presenter)
  • Antonia Prebble (Guest Presenter)
AND I'M ORIINI KAIPARA. AND ON THE PROJECT, TO BUY OR TO RENT? YES. THAT IS THE QUESTION. IT SUDDENLY COSTS A WHOLE LOT MORE TO PAY YOUR MORTGAGE THAN TO RENT A HOUSE. SO ARE THESE NEW FIGURES A GAME-CHANGER? WANNA TALK ABOUT MORTGAGE RATES? ('PSYCHO' THEME) YEAH. I DON'T BLAME YOU. BECAUSE LATEST FIGURES SHOW THAT THE EVERGREEN DREAM OF ONE DAY BUYING YOUR OWN HOME MIGHT TURN OUT TO BE AN ECONOMIC NIGHTMARE. PEOPLE WHO BUY ARE NOW SPENDING TWICE AS MUCH OF THEIR INCOME ON MORTGAGES AS RENTERS ARE ON PAYING RENT. THE FIGURES ARE CERTAINLY SHOWING THAT PAYING A MORTGAGE IS GOING TO ABSORB MORE OF YOUR INCOME. NOW, A LOT OF THAT'S TO DO WITH THE CURRENT HIGH STATE OF MORTGAGE RATES THEMSELVES. A WHILE AGO THEY WERE 2 OR 2.5; NOW THEY'RE 7. SO IT IS QUITE A BIT MORE EXPENSIVE NOW TO PAY A MORTGAGE THAN PAY RENT. IT'S ALWAYS COST MORE EACH WEEK TO PAY OFF A HOUSE THAN TO RENT. BUT JUST 10 YEARS AGO, THE DIFFERENCE WAS MORE LIKE THIS ` 20% ON RENT COMPARED TO 31% ON A MORTGAGE. FIVE YEARS AGO, IT WAS 21% COMPARED TO 38%. NOW LOOK AT THE STATE OF IT ` 22% FOR RENT, 49% FOR MORTGAGE, AND THAT'S JUST ON AVERAGE. IN TAURANGA, A MORTGAGE WILL SUCK UP 65% OF YOUR INCOME COMPARED TO 29% FOR RENTERS. I THINK WE'VE PROBABLY REACHED A PLATEAU IN SOME WAYS FOR MORTGAGE PAYMENTS AS A SHARE OF INCOMES BECAUSE IT DOES LOOK LIKE HOUSE PRICES HAVE REACHED A FLOOR NOW. SO IF HOUSE PRICES FLATTEN OFF AND PERHAPS EVEN START TO INCREASE A LITTLE BIT, IT'S HARD TO SEE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY GETTING MUCH BETTER. SO IS THE HOME-OWNING DREAM REALLY JUST A SIREN'S CALL TO A BIG FINANCIAL MISTAKE? FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND FOUNDER OF 'ENABLE.ME' HANNAH MCQUEEN JOINS US NOW. HANNAH, TRADITIONALLY IT'S BEEN THAT YOU PAY MORE FOR A MORTGAGE, BUT WITH THE CAPITAL GAINS, IT'S STILL A BETTER INVESTMENT OVERALL. IS THAT STILL TRUE? YEAH, WELL, WHAT PROPERTY ALLOWS YOU TO DO IS IT ALLOWS YOU TO BORROW MONEY FROM THE BANK, AND YOU BUY THIS ASSET THAT YOU WOULDN'T NORMALLY BE ABLE TO AFFORD WITH YOUR OWN CASH, AND YOU GET A CAPITAL GROWTH ON THAT ASSET. AND THAT LEVERAGED ASSET GROWTH NORMALLY IS 2-TO-3 TIMES LARGER THAN IF YOU INVESTED IN A NON-PROPERTY OR AN UNLEVERAGED ASSET. SO PROPERTIES STILL PERFORMS BETTER THAN OTHER ASSET CLASSES IF YOU'RE ABLE TO USE LEVERAGE. AND FOR MANY OF US, WE NEED TO USE LEVERAGE TO TRY AND CLOSE OUT OUR RETIREMENT SAVINGS GAP. SO THERE'S STILL A LOT OF MONEY TO BE MADE WITH OWNING PROPERTY, JUST WHETHER YOU SHOULD BE LIVING IN THE PROPERTY YOU OWN, THAT IS LESS CERTAIN NOW BECAUSE OF OTHER EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES. IS THIS GAP UNUSUAL, FROM AN INTERNATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, OR ARE WE NOW MORE IN LINE WITH THE SITUATION IN OTHER COUNTRIES? WELL, I THINK WE ARE MORE EXTREME IN NEW ZEALAND BECAUSE INCOME TO HOUSE PRICES IS ONE OF THE WORST IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD, AND I THINK THAT'S STARTING TO BEAR` HAVE A BRUNT ON FIRST-HOME BUYERS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE THIS LOVE AFFAIR WITH PROPERTY HERE. SO IN EUROPE, FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S NOT AS COMMON TO OWN YOUR OWN HOME. IT'S MORE COMMON TO RENT AND TO PUT YOUR INVESTMENTS TOWARDS SOMETHING ELSE. SO I THINK WE ARE WE'RE OPENING UP A DIFFERENT PATH FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING ON TO THE FINANCIAL MARKET` SORRY, COMING ON TO THE PROPERTY MARKET TO GIVE THEM MORE OPTIONS AROUND HOW THEY SHOULD OWN THEIR FIRST PROPERTY. OK, SO WHAT IF I'VE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND DECIDED JUST TO RENT FOREVER INSTEAD OF BUY? ANY ADVICE FOR ME? YEAH, WELL, THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS YOU'RE GOING TO BE PAYING RENT IN RETIREMENT, SO EVEN IF YOU'RE PAYING $500 A WEEK, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED AN EXTRA $600,000 OF RETIREMENT SAVINGS TO FUND THE FACT THAT YOU STILL HAVE THIS ONGOING COST THAT A HOME-OWNER WHO'S PAID OFF THEIR MORTGAGE WOULDN'T HAVE. SO I THINK THE KEY THERE IS THAT RENTING IS A CHEAPER WAY TO LIVE THAN OWNING YOUR OWN HOME, BUT YOU HAVE TO ACCOMPANY THAT WITH THE RIGHT WEALTH STRATEGY, AND THAT STRATEGY IS MOST LIKELY GOING TO INCLUDE STILL OWNING A PROPERTY, BUT MORE AS AN INVESTMENT RATHER THAN A HOME. A BIT OF NEWS TODAY THAT PROPERTY PRICES MIGHT BE GONNA START HEADING UP AGAIN. DO YOU THINK THAT IS GOING TO HELP THIS THIS GAP OR IS IT GOING TO MAKE IT WORSE? I THINK IT'S GONNA` IT'S GONNA WIDEN THE GAP. SO IT'S GOING TO BE MORE ATTRACTIVE TO CONTINUE RENTING THAN AIMING TO BUY YOUR FIRST PROPERTY AS YOUR HOME. I THINK THAT HOUSE PRICES WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE. WE KNOW THAT RENTS DON'T GO UP AT THE SAME RATE, NORMALLY, AS THE HOUSING MARKET, SO YOU'LL BENEFIT MORE AS A RENTER THAN AS SOMEONE WHO'S TRYING TO SAVE TO GET ON TO THE PROPERTY LADDER THEMSELVES. HANNAH MCQUEEN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS. THANK YOU. (CHEERING, APPLAUSE) THIS IS THE PROJECT. A FULL HOUSE HERE TONIGHT. ANTONIA PREBBLE IS HERE! I SHOULD HAVE SAID WE'VE GOT A FULL HOUSE TONIGHT BECAUSE ANTONIA PREBBLE IS HERE. A TOUGH FIRST STORY. WE HAVE A LOVE AFFAIR WITH PROPERTY IN NEW ZEALAND. AND ASSOCIATE SHALL TO OUR IDENTITY AS KIWIS. I WISH THIS COULD BE A GOOD NEWS STORY. IS SEXY LITTLE RENTERS ARE WINNING STORY. WE DON'T HAVE RENT CONTROL, GREAT QUALITY RENTAL HOMES TO LIVE IN, WE DON'T HAVE EUROPE... THERE'S NO CERTAINTY AS A RENTER. THE IDEA OF MAKING RENTING COOL. THE BUS DIDN'T USED TO BE COOL. IT NEVER RUNS. I'M NOT SURE JESSE KNOWS WHAT A BUS IS. ALSO TONIGHT, THIS IS AN IDEA WE CAN ALL GET BEHIND ` DO LESS LAUNDRY, SAVE THE WORLD. SO HOW OFTEN DO YOU REALLY NEED TO WASH HOODIES, UNDIES, AND JEANS? THAT'S NEXT. AND ALL OF BRADLEY SHAW'S CLIENTS ARE DEAD. HE'S A FUNERAL DIRECTOR AND A PODCASTER WHO REVEALS WHAT HAPPENS AFTER WE PASS THROUGH HIS DOORS. THAT'S JUST AHEAD. BUT FIRST, I'VE GOT SOME VIDEOS WHERE EVERYONE IS ALIVE BUT MIGHT DIE OF EMBARRASSMENT. IT'S TIME FOR THE DAILY DOSE. FIRST UP, A DUDE TRYING TO TAKE A GOLF CART OVER A JUMP. IDIOTIC, BUT THE REASON I ENJOYED THIS CLIP IS THE SOUND EFFECTS. (BUMP!) (CRASH!) I'M BEGINNING TO THINK THE DUDE MIGHT NOT EVEN PLAY GOLF. NEXT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE FALLING OFF A LADDER, A SMALL LADDER MIGHT NOT BE AS PAINFUL PHYSICALLY, BUT IT CAN BE EMOTIONALLY. WATCH THE GIRL IN THE BLACK SKIRT ON THE LADDER, STEPS DOWN, TUMBLES, AND, WHOOPS ` DOWN SKIRT. YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO KNOW THE STEP LADDER HAS BEEN CALLED INTO A MEETING WITH HR. AND FINALLY, BECAUSE I'M SO GOOD AT IT, YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO READ OFF A TELEPROMPTER. HELLO. I AM WATCHING.. (LAUGHS) HOW EMBARRASSING FOR HIM. ANYWAY, YOU'VE BEEN JEREMY CORBETT, AND I'VE BEEN THE DAILY DOSE! WE WOULD ALL LOVE TO DO FEWER CHORES AT HOME. WHAT IF I TOLD YOU THAT YOU SHOULD AND THAT IT WOULD HELP SAVE THE PLANET? I NOW HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. HOW OFTEN DO YOU WASH YOUR CLOTHES? (WATER GURGLES) THIS FRIDAY HAS BEEN DECLARED NO LAUNDRY DAY, NOT BY LAZY KIWIS, BUT BY ECOSTORE. EACH YEAR, NEW ZEALANDERS USE A STAGGERING 39B LITRES OF WATER JUST WASHING CLOTHES. IF WE ALL SKIP LAUNDRY FOR ONE DAY, IT WOULD SAVE 107M LITRES FROM GOING DOWN THE DRAIN. THAT'S 766,000 BATH TUBS OF WATER. AND EXPERTS SAY MANY ITEMS SHOULDN'T BE WASHED EVERY TIME WE WEAR THEM. OK ` STINKY SOCKS AND YOUR UNDIES PROBABLY. BUT STUFF LIKE JEANS, MANY THINK THEY SHOULD REALLY BE CLEANED. THINGS LIKE DENIM SHOULD NOT BE WASHED EVERY TIME YOU WEAR THEM. HOW MANY...? EIGHT TO 10 TIMES YOU SHOULD ACTUALLY WEAR A PAIR OF JEANS. NOW, IF YOU SPILL ON THEM OR YOU HAVE SOME BODILY REACTION WITH THEM, BY ALL MEANS WASH THEM. BY DOING LESS LAUNDRY, YOU'RE HELPING SAVE THE PLANET. BE LAZY, AOTEAROA. DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN. # I BELIEVE THE CHILDREN ARE OUR FUTURE... # JOINING US NOW FROM CHRISTCHURCH IS SCIENCE TEAM LEADER AND TEXTILE TECHNOLOGIST AT AGRESEARCH DR STEWART COLLIE. STEWART, DO YOU THINK WE WASH OUR CLOTHES MORE THAN WE NEED? I HAVE A SUSPICION THAT WE DO, REALLY, ALTHOUGH I GUESS IT'S A SPECTRUM. WE PROBABLY ALL KNOW PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO WASH THINGS ALL THE TIME, BUT ALSO PEOPLE THAT PROBABLY DON'T WASH THEM QUITE AS MUCH. BUT I THINK OVERALL, PERHAPS WE PROBABLY DO WASH THINGS A BIT TOO MUCH. DO I NEED TO FOLLOW ALL THE CRAZY WASHING LABEL INSTRUCTIONS? WELL, THE FIRST THING I WOULD SAY IS, YES, YOU DEFINITELY SHOULD FOLLOW THOSE INSTRUCTIONS. BUT THE SECOND THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO PUT THOSE LABELS IN ARE PROBABLY PRETTY RISK-AVERSE. SO THE ODD MISTAKE WHERE YOU WASH SOMETHING NOT QUITE AS IT SHOULD BE IS USUALLY GOING TO BE OK. AND I GUESS THE ONLY ONE TO PARTICULARLY BE CAREFUL OF IF THINGS ARE DELICATE AND THEY AND THEY REQUIRE A DELICATE WASH, THEN THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD STICK WITH. THE ONE I HEAR THE MOST CRAZY IDEAS ABOUT IS A PAIR OF JEANS. I'VE HAD WASH THEM ONCE A YEAR. WHAT WOULD YOU DO? WELL, I MUST ADMIT THAT IF MY JEANS STAYED CLEAN ENOUGH TO ONLY BE WASHED ONCE A YEAR, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE LIVING MUCH OF A LIFE, I SUSPECT. I WOULD BE` I WOULD BE SPILLING MY FOOD ON THEM AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS. BUT I GUESS IF THAT'S` IF YOU` IF YOU GIVE IT THE SMELL TEST AND YOU HAVE A LOOK AT THEM AND THEY'RE NOT DIRTY, THEN YOU COULD KEEP ON WASHING THEM. BUT I WOULD EXPECT THAT YOU COULD WASH THEM MORE OFTEN THAN THEY ARE. I MEAN, JEANS ARE ROBUST GARMENTS. ANY IDEAS FOR HOW TO, KIND OF, LIKE, EXTEND THE DAYS BETWEEN THE WASHES? I'VE HEARD VODKA SPRAY, I'VE HEARD FREEZING, I'VE HEARD HANG OUT IN THE SUNSHINE. ARE ANY OF THOSE WORTH A SHOT? YEAH, I THINK DEFINITELY HANGING THINGS OUT IN THE SUNSHINE IS GOOD. THEY'RE GONNA GET AN AIRING, SO ANYTHING THAT THEY'VE KIND OF ABSORBED, LIKE, MOISTURE OR ODOURS ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO DISSIPATE. AND ALSO THE SUN WILL HAVE A BIT OF A` THE UV WILL HAVE A BIT OF A SORT OF DISINFECTANT EFFECT AS WELL. SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD OPTION FOR INCREASING THE NUMBER OF WEARS. THE VODKA, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT. I GUESS THE ALCOHOL MIGHT DO SOMETHING TO BUGS THAT ARE IN THERE, AND THE FREEZING ONE, I THINK THEY WON'T NECESSARILY GET SMELLIER WHILE THEY'RE IN THE FREEZER, BUT I THINK IT WILL PROBABLY JUST BE LIKE IT WAS WHEN YOU WHEN YOU PUT THEM IN THERE. STEWART, IT'S GREAT ADVICE. I WILL WEAR THESE CLOTHES UNTIL JESSE STARTS HOLDING HIS NOSE. THANKS FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. (CHUCKLES) THANK YOU. WASTING VODKA ON JEANS IS VERY UN- NEW ZEALAND. I AM WORRIED THAT I WON'T GET BACK INTO MY JEANS IF I WASH THEM. I RELATE SO HARD TO THAT. THE THOUGHT OF WASHING MY JEANS MAKES ME SO STRESSED OUT. IT IS AN AWFUL EXPERIENCE. IT IS FINE. DON'T WASH YOUR JEANS IF YOU TAKE NON-WASHING SERIOUSLY. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TALCUM POWDER, RUB IT INTO DROPS OF OIL, EUCALYPTUS SPRAY SO IT DOESN'T PONG... KMART STEAMER... I HAVE SAID THIS TO YOU BEFORE ` YOU'RE AN ELDERLY WOMAN TRAPPED IN A YOUNG WOMAN'S BODY. I PREFER TO HAVE LOWER STANDARDS. THE HAMILTON WAY. THE FYRE FESTIVAL WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST EVENT FAILS OF ALL TIME. ITS ORGANISER HAS JUST BEEN RELEASED FROM PRISON. HE'S GOT AN ANNOUNCEMENT, AND YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT IT IS. THAT'S NEXT ON THE PROJECT. I'M HERE WITH SOPHIA FROM OUR STUDIO AUDIENCE WHO HAS HER OWN PODCAST AND LIKES DRAWING. SHE'S GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT'S COMING UP, SO, SOPHIA, READ THAT! THANKS, JEREMY. WOULD YOU PAY $13,000 FOR A CONCERT THAT WILL PROBABLY NEVER HAPPEN? THAT'S NEXT ON THE PROJECT. (CHEERING, APPLAUSE) WELCOME BACK. AS A TEENAGER, WHAKATANE'S BRADLEY SHAW DREAMED OF A FUTURE WHERE HE WORE A SUIT TO WORK EACH DAY. HE COULD HAVE CHOSEN ALMOST ANY OFFICE JOB, BUT HE DECIDED TO BECOME A FUNERAL DIRECTOR. WE'LL ASK HIM WHY NEXT. BUT FIRST, REMEMBER THE INFAMOUS FYRE FESTIVAL? IT'S BACK! THE MUCH-HYPED 2017 MUSIC FEST BECAME A SPECTACULAR FAILURE AND A VERY WATCHABLE DOCUMENTARY. AFTER SERVING PRISON TIME FOR FRAUD FOLLOWING THE FIRST ONE, MASTERMIND BILLY MCFARLAND HAS ANNOUNCED FYRE FEST TWO. TICKETS RANGE FROM $1300 TO $13,000. BILLY HAS NOT ACTUALLY REVEALED WHERE OR WHEN IT WILL HAPPEN, BUT SAYS IT'S 'TARGETED' FOR THE END OF 2024 IN THE CARIBBEAN. YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET TICKETS. I'VE GOT PRE-TICKETS. YOU FLY INTO MIAMI ON THE HINDENBURG. YOU CRUISE DOWN ON THE TITANIC TWO. NOT EVERYONE WILL REMEMBER IT. THERE WAS A DOCUMENTARY ON NETFLIX. PEOPLE PAID A LOT OF MONEY, THEY FLEW TO A TINY ISLAND, AND THEIR EXPERIENCE WAS HORRIBLE. THEIR LUXURY FOOD HAMPER LOOKS LIKE THIS. NO BUTTER, NO MAYONNAISE... IT IS A TRAUMATIC DOCUMENTARY TO WATCH. HOW HE HAS THE GALL TO SAY HE'S DOING IT AGAIN. HOW WAS HE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO DO IT AGAIN? WHY PEOPLE WILL PROBABLY ACTUALLY BUY TICKETS TO IT AGAIN? YOU DON'T NEED THAT IN YOUR LIFE. WHAT ARTIST WILL SIGN UP FOR IT? APPARENTLY CORBETT IS DOING COMEDY. WHEN I WAS 16, I WANTED TO BE A LIBRARIAN. AUDIENCE: AWW. BUT OUR NEXT GUEST'S DREAMS AT 16 WERE MUCH MORE INTERESTING. WHEN YOU THINK OF A GUY RUNNING A FUNERAL HOME, YOUR PICTURE IS PROBABLY A BIT MORE OF THIS. THAT IS OUR MOST MODESTLY PRICED RECEPTACLE. ...OR MAYBE THIS. EXCUSE ME, MR EASTWOOD. I JUST NEED TO TAKE YOUR MEASUREMENTS. OH, LOOK, PAL. I DON'T WANT TO BUY A SUIT. (CHUCKLES) NO, THIS IS FOR YOUR COFFIN. BUT HOW ABOUT THIS? GIVE US A QUICK RUNDOWN ON ASHES AND HOW ASHES, SORT OF, BECOME ASHES. RIGHT. AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DO WITH THEM. BRADLEY SHAW WAS 16 WHEN HE LEFT SCHOOL WITH THE GOAL OF BECOMING A FUNERAL DIRECTOR. HIS INITIAL INTEREST IN THE JOB ` HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE COOL TO WEAR A SUIT TO WORK EVERY DAY. 12 YEARS LATER, HE'S LOST THE SUIT BUT KEPT UP HIS LOVE FOR THE PROFESSION. HE'S EVEN STARTED A PODCAST TO TRY TO BREAK TABOOS AROUND DEATH. AND BRADLEY JOINS US NOW. BRADLEY, WHEN YOU STARTED WORKING AT 16, WAS IT STRAIGHT INTO EMBALMING? I UNDERSTAND YOU ACTUALLY STARTED OFF WASHING CARS. YEAH, THREE MONTHS OF WASHING CARS AND, YOU KNOW, JUST LEARNING THE BASICS AROUND THE FUNERAL HOME AND GETTING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE JOB REALLY ENTAILED. WHY WOULD YOU WASH A CAR AS A FUNERAL DIRECTOR? KANOA. WELL, THE HEARSE IS THE MOST INTEGRAL PART OF WHAT PEOPLE SEE ON THE DAY OTHER THAN THE FUNERAL DIRECTOR. SO WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT THE HEARSE IS CLEAN. AND WE HAD NINE OF THEM AT THE TIME. DIFFERENT VEHICLES FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES. SO, YEAH, YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE CLEAN, AND YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK THE PART. AND WHAT DID YOUR FRIENDS SAY WHEN YOU TOLD THEM THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO PURSUE? WELL, I ACTUALLY DIDN'T TELL FRIENDS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. I STARTED TELLING EVERYBODY THAT I WAS A BUILDER, AND I WAS OFF TO WORK AS A BUILDER. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AS TIME WENT BY, PEOPLE STARTED SEEING ME OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WORKING AS A FUNERAL DIRECTOR, OR AT THAT TIME AS AN ASSISTANT. SO, YEAH, IT SORT OF CAME OUT IN THE WASH A LITTLE BIT THERE. WHAT IS THE HARDEST PART OF YOUR JOB? OH, I THINK THE HARDEST PART IS DEALING WITH EVERYONE'S EMOTIONS AND DEALING WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN DAY-TO-DAY LIFE. YOU KNOW, EVERYONE DEALS WITH GRIEF DIFFERENTLY. AND, YOU KNOW, OUR ROLE IS TO SUPPORT PEOPLE AND TO HELP PEOPLE. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET AT ANY PARTICULAR TIME, SO THAT'S THE HARDEST PART. BUT IT'S SUCH A REWARDING, YOU KNOW, ROLE TO BE ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE AND, YOU KNOW, BE THERE FOR THEM IN THAT JOURNEY. SO IT'S NOT THE PERSON WHO HAS DIED WHO IS THE MOST DIFFICULT THING. IT'S ALL THE LIVING THAT YOU'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH AS PART OF YOUR JOB. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH, YEAH. THE DEAD ONES ARE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, FAR EASIER TO DEAL WITH THAN THE LIVING ONES SOMETIMES. YEAH. WHAT DO YOU THINK WE'RE GETTING WRONG WHEN IT COMES TO PLANNING FUNERALS, DEALING WITH DEATH? I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GETTING ANYTHING WRONG. I JUST THINK WE'RE REALLY UNDERPREPARED. IN GENERAL, PEOPLE ARE REALLY UNDERPREPARED. AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE TIME ` SOMETIME, MAYBE NOT, BUT A LOT OF THE TIME ` PEOPLE HAVE A` THERE'S A KNOWING THAT SOMEONE'S GOING TO PASS AWAY. AND SO IF WE'RE PLANNING FOR IT AND WE KNOW WHAT THE PERSON WANTS AND WE KNOW FINANCIALLY AS WELL THAT WE'RE PREPARED FOR IT, THEN IT MAKES LIFE A LOT EASIER WHEN THE TIME COMES. LIFE'S SHORT AND SO ARE OUR INTERVIEWS, BRADLEY. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. (CHUCKLES) CHEERS, MATE. THANK YOU. WE SHOULD THINK MORE ABOUT DEATH. PREPARE FOR OUR OWN DEATH TO TAKE THE LOAD OFF OUR LOVED ONES. ANYONE MADE PLANS? I WAS VERY CLEAR AS A TEENAGER ABOUT THE SONGS. LESS CLEAR ABOUT MY WEDDING. MAKE A WILL. THAT'S MY BOTTOM LINE. PLANNING ` WHEN MY MUM PASSED AWAY, THERE WAS A LOT OF PLANNING. DAD IS VERY OLD, SO WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE THE LOAD OFF SO A LOT OF THAT IS DONE BEFORE THE DAY. I AM WAY AHEAD OF YOU. I'VE GOT HEAPS OF IDEAS. MY FUNERAL WILL BE A FIVE-DAY THING. IT WILL BE PART-TANGI; PART DANCE PARTY... MAYBE SOME PEOPLE WILL DJ. I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE DESCRIBING THE FYRE FESTIVAL. I WAS LITERALLY THINKING THE SAME THING. IT'S TIME FOR BEAT THAT. WE WANT TO FIND THE BEST WEDDING DANCE. UP FIRST ARE ASHLEIGH AND JAKE WITH THIS LOVELY TWIRL. ALSO SOME PYROTECHNICS. A LOVELY FRONT ROW. AND HERE'S A GREAT DIP FROM KRISTER AND LUCY'S WEDDING! LOOK AFTER HER. AND HERE'S LUCIE AND JAMES WITH A VERY FUNKY FIRST DANCE. LOOK AT THESE LEGS MOVE. GREAT STUFF, BUT THEY COULDN'T TOP LAST NIGHT'S WINNER CHIRON WITH THIS DIRTY DANCING LIFT. HOW DOES HE DO IT? I THINK HE'S GOT THE PATRICK SWAYZE OUTFIT. IT WOULD BE SO HARD TO KEEP YOUR LEG STRAIGHT IN THE AIR. I AM NOT MARRIED YET, SO I'M TAKING SOME INSPIRATION. I WILL START PRACTISING NOW. TAKE SOME NOTES. SEND YOUR CLIP IN TO OUR WEBSITE, AND YOU COULD BE KICKSTARTING YOUR HONEYMOON WITH A TWO-NIGHT STAY FOR TWO AT THE CANOPY CAMPING ESCAPE OF YOUR CHOICE! HEAD TO OUR WEBSITE TO ENTER NOW. (CHEERING, APPLAUSE) WELCOME BACK TO THE PROJECT. AND WE'LL LEAVE YOU WITH A LOVELY NEW ZEALAND CLIP FROM AN UNNAMED MITRE 10. TESTING THE PLUNGER. BREAKS IT. STILL CAN'T GET IT OFF. BALD MEN GO TO EXTREMES, BUT THIS IS RIDICULOUS. WE WILL COVER IT UP WITH THE HOODIE. AND THAT IS WHY PLUMBERS NEVER TURN UP ON TIME. WITH ABOUT THREE WEEKS BEFORE POLITICAL PARTIES CAN RUN ADS ON TV AND RADIO, THEY'RE ALL GETTING THEIR MESSAGE OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. TOMORROW NIGHT, OUR EXPERT WILL SHOW US WHICH PARTIES ARE DOING IT WELL AND WHICH ONES AREN'T. THAT'S IT FOR US. THANKS TO OUR SPONSOR, CONTACT, AND THANKS TO ANTONIA PREBBLE FOR JOINING US TONIGHT. 'THE TRAITORS NZ' IS NEXT. THANK YOU FOR WATCHING. SEE YOU TOMORROW. CAPTIONS BY SAM BAKER, JOHN GIBBS AND SEAN LYDIARD.