TIME NOW FOR SEVEN SHARP WITH HILARY AND JEREMY. IT'S A CONVERSATION NONE OF US WANT TO HAVE, BUT KNOWING WHERE TO GO FOR HELP IF YOU OR SOMEONE YOU KNOW IS SEXUALLY ASSAULTED IS IMPORTANT. SO TODAY, AS BROTHERS DANNY AND ROBERTO JAZ ARE LOCKED UP FOR 16� AND 17 YEARS FOR A RAFT OF SEXUAL OFFENDING AT CHRISTCHURCH BAR MAMA HOOCH. RACHEL PARKIN HAS THIS STORY. DR JESS TUCKER IS READY WHEN SHE'S NEEDED. HI, THIS IS JESS, DOCTOR FROM THE CAMBRIDGE CLINIC. HER PASSION BEYOND HER FAMILY IS HER WORK AT THE CAMBRIDGE CLINIC, A 24-7 SEXUAL ASSAULT ASSESSMENT AND TREATMENT CENTRE. CALLING ONE SUNDAY MORNING IN 2018, THE FRIEND OF A SCARED YOUNG WOMAN DRUGGED AND ASSAULTED BY THIS BROTHER, ROBERTO JAZ. AND YOU STILL REMEMBER THAT CALL? YES, MOST DEFINITELY. I'M EXTREMELY PROUD OF THE FACT THAT THEY REACHED OUT TO OUR SERVICE. THAT MUST HAVE BEEN AN INCREDIBLY HARD THING TO DO. THAT CALL THE FIRST BRAVE STEP TOWARD WHAT BECAME A MAJOR POLICE OPERATION. THE SECOND STEP ` COMING HERE. (ENTRY BELL RINGS) HI, RACHEL. THANKS SO MUCH FOR COMING IN TODAY. THE CAMBRIDGE TEAM KNOWING ALL TOO WELL THAT EARNING TRUST WHEN PEOPLE ARE AT THEIR MOST VULNERABLE IS THEIR PRIVILEGE. IT'S A REALLY BRAVE THING THAT YOU'VE DONE, AND WE WANT TO TAKE REALLY GOOD CARE OF YOU. HOW THAT CARE LOOKS IS UP TO EACH PERSON. WHILE MEDICAL CARE IS A GIVEN, FORENSIC EXAMINATIONS ARE NOT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO INVOLVE POLICE. EVERY STEP IS A CHOICE AND IS SUPPORTED. AND HOPEFULLY THAT'S EMPOWERING FOR THEM. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE CAN DO IS CREATE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT, A KIND ENVIRONMENT, AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY AND BELIEVED. FOR SOME PEOPLE, HEARING FOUR SIMPLE WORDS IS ENOUGH. IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT. IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT, NO MATTER WHAT SITUATION THEY MAYBE PUT THEMSELVES IN. IF ANY GOOD CAN COME FROM THE MAMA HOOCH CASE, JESS HOPES IT'S GREATER AWARENESS AROUND THE CLINIC AND CONSENT. HAVE YOU HEARD OF THE CAMBRIDGE CLINIC? NO. NO. NO. I WOULDN'T KNOW WHERE TO GO IF ANYTHING HAPPENED. CHRISTCHURCH'S ARA TE PUKENGA IS PUSHING AS PART OF AN AWARENESS CAMPAIGN UNDERWAY IN THE LOCAL TERTIARY SECTOR. MATAPAKI KA TAHI ` COMMUNICATE CONSENT ALWAYS. THAT'S COOL. I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION ` I GUESS SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH GUYS AROUND CONSENT. YEAH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NORMALISE THAT IT'S ALSO OK TO CHANGE THE CONSENT AT ANY TIME. FOR MALES, IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO HAVE A BIGGER EMPHASIS BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T GET TALKED ABOUT AS MUCH AS OPPOSED TO THE OTHER GENDERS. I THINK IF EVERYONE KIND OF UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S EXPECTED AND WHAT RESPECT IS AND WHAT CONSENT IS, THEN WE CAN RESPECT EACH OTHER. (DANCE MUSIC) BECAUSE ALTHOUGH GOING OUT ON THE TOWN SHOULD JUST BE FUN, WHEN DRUGS AND ALCOHOL ARE INVOLVED, LINES CAN BLUR OR GET CROSSED. AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE DRINK SPIKE SCENARIO, IS IT? NO. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DRUG-FACILITATED SEXUAL ASSAULT, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS SEXUAL HARM THAT TAKES PLACE WHEN SOMEBODY IS INTOXICATED BY ALCOHOL OR DRUGS OR A COMBINATION OF THE TWO. AND CAN'T CONSENT. YES. AND CAN'T CONSENT TO WHAT'S HAPPENING. AND THE PHONE CALL JESS TOOK WASN'T THE LAST RELATING TO MAMA HOOCH. THE MEN WHOSE OFFENDING WAS MADE PUBLIC YESTERDAY SPUN FIVE YEARS OF LIES. AS PUBLICITY GREW, MORE YOUNG WOMEN COMING FORWARD TO THE CLINIC. AND THAT'S THE THING. THE CAMBRIDGE TEAM STRETCHES WELL BEYOND THESE WALLS TO DOCTORS AND NURSES WITH FULL-TIME DAY JOBS, SO COMMITTED TO THE CAUSE, THEY'RE ON-CALL AT ALL HOURS IN THEIR HOMES WITH THEIR FAMILIES. BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WHEN PEOPLE NEED OUR CARE DOESN'T OFTEN FIT INTO OFFICE HOURS. FOR THESE STUDENTS, KNOWING THAT HELP'S ON-HAND IS GOOD NEWS. DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT MORE. YEAH, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THIS STORY IS OUT THERE, AND... YEAH, PEOPLE KNOW WHAT TO DO. IF YOU NEED HELP, THERE'S A CLINIC LIKE THIS ONE IN MOST KIWI TOWNS. CAPTIONS BY JESSIE PURU, KITTY WASASALA AND SEAN LYDIARD. CAPTIONS WERE MADE WITH THE SUPPORT OF NZ ON AIR. WWW.ABLE.CO.NZ COPYRIGHT ABLE 2023 AN OFF-SEASON LIFEGUARD HAS BECOME SOMEWHAT OF A LOCAL HERO AFTER COMPLETING A DARING RESCUE IN SURGING NORTHLAND SWELLS. BUT UNLIKE MANY OF HIS SURVIVORS WHO GIVE HIM A HANDSHAKE OR MAYBE EVEN A HUG, THIS ONE GAVE HIM A SLOPPY OLD LICK. (GENTLE MUSIC) RARO. (WHISTLES) SHE'S LIVING HER BEST LIFE. RARO, COME ON. RARO THE RESCUE DOG NOT SO KEEN ON DIPPING HER PAWS IN TODAY AFTER BEING SAVED FROM THE POUNDING SEAS OFF LANGS BEACH. HEY. HI THERE. HOW'S IT GOING? GOOD TO SEE YOU. (CHUCKLES) RARO, COME ON. SHE STILL REMEMBERS THE DAY, EH. THANKS SO MUCH AGAIN, RICK. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. NO PROBLEM. SEAN THOMPSON WAS WALKING RARO, SOMEWHAT OF A BITZER, ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON. WHEN WE GOT TO THIS END, RARO GOT A BIT EXCITED WANTING TO GO ROUND TO HER FAVOURITE BAY ` DING BAY. BECAUSE HERE'S THE CLINCHER ` SHE'S NOT YOUR DOG, IS SHE? NOT OUR DOG, NO. SEAN'S BABYSITTING RARO WHILE HER OWNERS ARE OVERSEAS. BUT THE DOG HAD TRAVEL PLANS OF HER OWN. SHE DECIDED TO TAKE OFF OVER THE ROCKS TO START HEADING THAT WAY. AND I THINK WITH THE SWELL COMING IN THERE, JUST A BIT OF A WAVE CAUGHT HER OFF GUARD. JUST SAW THE WHITEWASH AND THE SWELL COMING IN. AND THEN I SPOTTED THE LITTLE PIECE OF BEACH DOWN THERE AS SOON AS THE SWELL WENT OUT, AND THERE'S RARO LOOKING UP AT ME, SOAKING WET. RARO HAD SOMEHOW FALLEN AND GOT TRAPPED AROUND THE ROCKS IN RAGING CONDITIONS. LOOKS CAN BE DECEIVING. THE CONDITIONS CHANGE RAPIDLY. SO I ACTUALLY GOT ON THE PHONE TO MANGAWHAI SURF LIFESAVING CLUB. THEY WERE SUPER HELPFUL AND SAID, 'HEY, MAYBE GIVE WAIPU A CALL 'BECAUSE THEY'RE CLOSER TO YOU.' AND KATH, YOU TOOK THAT CALL. I DID. AND I KNEW JUST WHO TO CALL. ('BAYWATCH' THEME MUSIC) RICK STOLWERK IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE WAIPU COVE SURF LIFESAVING CLUB AND LOCAL SEARCH AND RESCUE COORDINATOR. PERFECT MAN FOR THE JOB. GOING FOR THE TRIFECTA, HE'S ALSO A LOCAL COUNCILLOR. I THOUGHT RICK WAS JUST GOING TO TURN UP, YOU KNOW, IN HIS SUNDAY BEST AND CRUISE ON DOWN, AND HERE RICK TURNS UP IN HIS WETSUIT AROUND HIS WAIST, HIS GLOVES ON, HIS BOOTS ON, HIS FLOAT UNDER HIS ARM AND A CHILDREN'S LIFE JACKET. (LAUGHS) LOOKING LIKE A CROSS BETWEEN DAVID HASSELHOFF AND A NAVY SEAL, RICK TOOK THE PLUNGE. SO WHAT WAS YOUR STRATEGY? SO I HAVE A LOOK WITH THE DOG IS AND THEN I WORK OUT A NICE PATH TO GET TO THEM. AND THE NATURAL PATH WOULD HAVE BEEN THE MOST DANGEROUS. TO JUMP OFF A NICE SPOT, DONE IT A FEW TIMES ANYWAY BEFORE, AND THEN A GOOD 50M OR 60M OUT PAST THE BREAK AND THEN SWIM IN BEHIND THE BREAK TO GET THE DOG. WAS SHE PLEASED TO SEE YOU? SHE WAS NOT HAPPY WITH ME, BUT I WAS ABLE TO GET THE TUBE AROUND HER COLLAR, AND THAT QUIETENED HER DOWN A BIT. AND THEN WHEN I FINALLY GOT THE LIFEJACKET AROUND HER SHE WAS` GOT MY ARM AROUND HER, SHE STOPPED. ONCE WE GOT IN THE WATER, SHE WAS FINE. BUT NOT NOT SO MUCH ON THE BEACH. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT TODAY ` SHE STILL REMEMBERS ME. SHE PRETTY MUCH HATES YOU, DOESN'T SHE? OH, WELL, HEY, SHE'S NERVOUS. (LAUGHS) IT WAS THE STRANGEST RESCUE RICKY'S EVER UNDERTAKEN. DOES THIS TAKE THE CAKE? DEFINITELY TAKES THE CAKE. BUT IT DOES HIGHLIGHT A SERIOUS MESSAGE. WE NEVER TURN THE SWITCH OFF, SO IT'S ON 24 HOURS A DAY. IF YOU'RE IN TROUBLE, ANY TIME YOU CAN CALL 111, PLEASE DO. AND SOMEBODY FROM YOUR LOCAL RESCUE SQUAD WILL COME OUT. RARO AND HER ENTOURAGE ARE EXTREMELY GRATEFUL. I'M GLAD HER PARENTS ARE HAPPY. YEAH, YEAH. THEY'RE VERY STOKED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND NEXT TIME, THE CREW WILL BE EVEN MORE PREPARED. OH, RIGHT. (LAUGHTER) OK. (UPBEAT MUSIC) THAT'S GOOD THAT RARO HAS A LIFE JACKET. THIS SATURDAY, MEA MOTU IS FIGHTING TO DEFEND HER SUPER BANTAMWEIGHT BOXING WORLD TITLE. BUT AS PASSIONATE AS SHE IS ABOUT PUNCHING, IT'S THE WORK SHE'S DOING WITH YOUNG PEOPLE THAT'S REALLY GOT HER FIRED UP. NINA BURTON WENT TO MEET HER. (INTENSE MUSIC) HER JOURNEY TOUGHER THAN HER FIGHTS. SO I WAS ON THE RUN BECAUSE OF THE GANGS. (INTENSE MUSIC BUILDS) AND BECAUSE OF MY EX-PARTNER ` I TRY TO RUN AWAY FROM HIM. AND IT WAS VERY SCARY. SO I STAYED ON THE RUN FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS. MY LAST TWO YEARS TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM HIM. (MUSIC SOURS) A VERY BAD THING HAPPENED... HE TRIED TO STAB ME. AND GUESS WHO SAVED ME? IT'S MY DAUGHTER. WHEN SHE'S NOT AT THE GYM OR IN THE RING, MEA MOTU IS IN SCHOOLS. HAS ANYONE EVER FELT ALONE? PUT YOUR HAND UP. YEAH, I HAVE FELT SO ALONE. TAKING A MESSAGE THAT'S AS POWERFUL AS HER PUNCH TO YOUNG PEOPLE. THE JOURNEY I'VE BEEN THROUGH AND THE LIFE THAT I'VE LIVED HAS ONLY MADE ME A STRONGER PERSON. USING EVERY HARDSHIP AND LIFE LESSON TO MENTOR AND INSPIRE OTHERS AS AN AMBASSADOR FOR I AM HOPE. I WANNA CHANGE THAT NARRATIVE AND CHANGE THAT` IT'S OK TO BE AFRAID. IT'S OK NOT TO BE OK, AND IT'S OK TO FAIL BECAUSE THAT'S HOW GROWTH LEARNS. TAKING ONE FOR TEAM MENTAL HEALTH. IT'S NOT ACTUALLY FAILING. IT'S OK TO FAIL. FAILING IS WHERE WE LEARN AND WE MAKE OUR MISTAKES. WITHOUT THE MISTAKES, WE CAN'T GROW. BE KIND. AND LOVE IS THE KEY TO ALL EVIL. THAT'S WHAT I'VE LEARNT. BE KIND TO EACH OTHER, SUPPORT EACH OTHER. DON'T BE AFRAID. GO OUT THERE AND BE GREAT. IF SOMEONE TELLS YOU YOU CAN'T, DON'T EVER LISTEN TO THEM COS YOU CAN. MEA, WHY IS IT IMPORTANT THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS WITH KIDS? IT'S GIVING THEM THE COPING MECHANISM AND THE TOOLS OF HOW TO GET THROUGH LIFE. MY SON, MY 10-YEAR-OLD SON WANTED TO COMMIT SUICIDE. GOING THROUGH THAT AS A MOTHER WAS VERY TRAUMATISING AND VERY HARD TO DEAL WITH. I ALREADY FELT LIKE I FAILED AS A MOTHER. IT'S RAW AND IT'S PERSONAL. I KNOW EVERY KID OUT THERE STRUGGLES AND... ADULTS ACTUALLY DON'T LISTEN TO THEIR CHILDREN BECAUSE I GOT SO CAPTIVATED IN MY OWN LIFE THAT I DIDN'T REALISE THAT I WAS NEGLECTING MY CHILDREN BECAUSE I ENDED UP BECOMING AND TELLING THEM LIKE, 'NO, YOU LISTEN TO MUM, 'THIS IS THE WAY IT IS', NOT REALISING THAT I'M AFFECTING THEM MENTALLY. SHE WAS A VICTIM OF BULLYING AND SO TOO WAS HER SON. BUT REWRITING THE NARRATIVE MEANT REFLECTING ON HERSELF. SO SHE DID ` DOING THE MAHI TO BE THE BEST MUM SHE COULD TO SAVE HER SON. AND THAT WAS THE BEST GIFT THAT I COULD EVER TEACH MY SON IS HAVE A UNDERSTANDING THAT THE BULLY'S GOING THROUGH THINGS. (UPLIFTING MUSIC) TELL ME ABOUT THE GIRL WHO CAME UP TO YOU AFTERWARDS. HOW DID THAT MAKE YOU FEEL? SHE SAID 'THANK YOU' BECAUSE SHE WAS BULLIED AND SHE SAID SHE ONLY KNEW ONE WAY ` BY REACTING AND BEING A BULLY BACK, OR... SHE DIDN'T HAVE THE CONFIDENCE TO TELL PEOPLE. AFTER HEARING MY STORY, SHE FOUND NEW WAYS. SO THAT WAS EMPOWERING AND ENCOURAGING FOR ME. YOU KNOW, IF I CAN SAVE ONE LIFE, THAT'S A MIRACLE. THAT'S BETTER THAN WINNING A WORLD TITLE. (UPLIFTING MUSIC) E WHAI AKE NEI ` COMING UP ON SEVEN SHARP, WE SIT DOWN WITH NEW ZEALAND MUSIC HALL OF FAME INDUCTEE DON MCGLASHAN. DOES HE HAVE A DARK SIDE? (LAUGHS) THE WORST THING ABOUT DON MCGLASHAN. HE'S A REALLY GOOD SINGER, SONGWRITER, COMPOSER, ARRANGER... YOU KNOW, SICKENING. UH, THAT HE LIVES IN CANADA. NAU MAI, HOKI MAI. WELCOME BACK. NICE TO HAVE YOU WITH US. MANY OF OUR SHINIEST MUSIC STARS HAVE ALREADY BEEN INDUCTED INTO THE NEW ZEALAND MUSIC HALL OF FAME ` HERBS, DOBBYN, THE TOPP TWINS, SHIHAD AND BIC RUNGA TO NAME FEW. AND JOINING THEM SOON IS A MAN WHOSE TALENTS ARE LEGENDARY. DON MCGLASHAN IS A MULTI-INSTRUMENTALIST, A SONGWRITER, STORYTELLER AND AN INCREDIBLE COLLABORATOR. IF ANYTHING, THE TERM OVERACHIEVER SEEMS INADEQUATE. IT'S BEEN QUITE THE CAREER, AND IT AIN'T OVER YET. # ANCHOR ME # IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR DEEP BLUE SEA. # # HALFWAY DOWN DOMINION ROAD. # THE ONE AND ONLY DON MCGLASHAN. # LET ME IN, LET ME IN. THE GREAT KIWI STORYTELLER WHO ONCE HAD A NUMBER ONE HIT WITH A SONG ABOUT A HEATER. AND EVEN WHEN HE'S SINGING OTHER PEOPLE'S SONGS... # THROUGH FALLING LEAVES, I PICK MY WAY SLOWLY. # ...HE CAN'T HELP BUT CREATE ANTHEMS. # THERE IS NO DEPRESSION IN NEW ZEALAND. # THERE ARE NO SHEEP ON OUR FARMS. # WAS THERE A LOT OF MUSIC IN YOUR HOUSE WHEN YOU WERE GROWING UP? YEAH, THERE WAS. MY MUM WAS A PIANIST. MY DAD, HE SANG IN THE CHURCH CHOIR. HIS DAD WAS... A MINE ENGINEER. AND THERE WAS SOME KIND OF CLASS REASON WHY MY FATHER WASN'T ALLOWED TO BE IN A BRASS BAND. SO THEN WHEN I TURNED UP AND WANTED TO PLAY INSTRUMENTS, HE JUST SHOWERED ME WITH STUFF. SO HE'D GO OUT TO A SECOND-HAND SHOP AND BRING HOME A FLUTE, AND THEN HE'D BRING HOME A CLARINET. (PLAYS BEAT) DON MASTERED THE PVC PIPE AS PART OF THE ART GROUP FROM SCRATCH. BUT THE LOVE OF BRASS REMAINS, AS DOES A STRONG SENSE OF COMMUNITY. DON'S HAPPY HELPING MUSOS AND PRISONERS ALIKE AND THROWING HIS WEIGHT INTO RIGHTEOUS CAUSES. AND WHEN IT COMES TO IMPORTANT PUBLIC MOMENTS, THEY CALL IN DON. JACK TAME: DON MCGLASHAN ` THAT'S HIM IN THE CORNER THERE ` AND AUCKLAND'S PHILHARMONIA ORCHESTRA REHEARSING TO ADD THE SPARKLE TO THE OPENING DAY OF RUGBY'S WORLD CUP. SOME OF THOSE EARLY YEARS OF PLAYING MUSIC, WERE THERE ANY MUSIC TEACHERS THAT STAND OUT TO YOU? I HAD A FANTASTIC MUSIC TEACHER CALLED MISS EMPSON. SHE DIED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, BUT I FOUND OUT WHERE SHE WAS, AND I VISITED HER IN HER REST HOME AND ACTUALLY SANG SOME STUFF. IT DIDN'T GO AS WELL AS I HOPED BECAUSE THERE WAS` THERE WERE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE IN THE REST HOME ENVIRONMENT. AND ONE OF THEM KEPT SHOUTING, 'WHY IS HE HERE?!' MISS EMPSON WAS AN INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL MUSIC TEACHER, AND SHE GOT US ALL, FORMED US INTO A BAND, AND THEN WE TOOK THAT BAND OUT OF THE SCHOOL AND PLAYED AT OTHER SCHOOLS. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE FIRST` MY FIRST SORT OF TOUR. (VOCALISES) BLAM BLAM BLAM MARKED DON'S ARRIVAL WITH PANACHE, FORM WITH MATES TIM MAHON AND LEGENDARY GUITARIST MARK BELL. OBVIOUSLY HE BRINGS A LOT TO THE TABLE BECAUSE HE'S SO VERSATILE. HE LISTENS TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY. HE'S NOT... HE'S NOT REALLY PUSHY, BUT HE'S PERSUASIVE BECAUSE HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. AND HE'S USUALLY RIGHT. THE BLAMS BURNT VERY BRIGHTLY BUT WERE CUT SHORT WHEN THEIR TOUR VAN LEFT THE ROAD. # IT'S BEEN SOME TIME NOW, A YEAR OR SO... # THEN CAME ANOTHER OF DON'S ENDURING PARTNERSHIPS WITH FILMMAKER HARRY SINCLAIR. YEAH? YOU'RE PRETTY SPUNKY. (SNICKERS) WITH THE FRONT LAWN, THE PAIR SPAWNED LEGENDARY STAGE SHOWS AND ENDURING SONGS. IT WAS A VERY JOYOUS PART OF MY LIFE AND THE SORT OF THE ENERGY ON STAGE WHEN WE HAD A GOOD NIGHT. AND I DON'T KNOW, IT WAS JUST LIKE IT WAS ABSOLUTELY MAGICAL. WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BE VERY SERIOUS AND IMPORTANT SORT OF PURVEYORS OF IDEAS. BUT AS SOON AS WE GOT ON STAGE, WE FOUND THAT PEOPLE LAUGHED AT US NO MATTER WHAT WE DID, HOW SERIOUS WE TRIED TO BE. IT TURNED INTO HUMOUR AND WE BECAME LIKE A COMEDY DUO, WHICH WAS VERY SURPRISING TO US, BUT WE RAN WITH THAT. ARCHIVE: THIS SKETCH WON AWARDS OVERSEAS AND HAD THE SCOTS TELEVISION AUDIENCE CHOKING ON ITS HAGGIS. # WE DO IT LIKE THIS. # MORE SIGNIFICANTLY, THEY'RE NO LONGER A TWOSOME. ACTRESS JENNIFER WARD-LEALAND HAS QUIT LEGIT THEATRE FOR SOME EVEN MORE UNPREDICTABLE LIFE ON THE FRONT LAWN. I THINK DON HAS THE HEART OF A POET. I THINK YOU CAN TAKE THE ORDINARY AND MAKE IT EXTRAORDINARY. AND I SAW THAT A LOT DURING THE FRONT LAWN. YOU KNOW, WE'D ALL THROW IN IDEAS, PARTICULARLY FOR OUR SHOW, EVEN JUST A LITTLE RIFF OR SOMETHING. I REMEMBER PLAYING SOMETHING ON MY UKULELE AND SAYING, 'LOOK, 'I'VE HAD THIS IN MY MIND FOR QUITE A WHILE.' AND HE TURNED THAT INTO THE MOST WONDERFUL SONG. SO HE'S` I THINK HE'S A VERY GENEROUS AS A COLLABORATOR. AND THE COLLABORATIONS KEPT COMING. BEHOLD, THE MAJESTY OF THE MUTTON BIRDS. # DOMINION ROAD IS BENDING. # IT MIGHT SOUND LIKE A STRANGE THING TO SAY, BUT HE'S KIND OF NEW ZEALAND'S SPRINGSTEEN COS HIS CHARACTERS ARE LIKE SPRINGSTEEN'S. THEY'RE VIVID. THEY HAVE STORIES TO TELL. THEY ARE CHARACTERS YOU RECOGNISE, AND THEY REFLECT NEW ZEALAND BACK TO US, WHEN THOSE SONGS ARE SET IN NEW ZEALAND, NOT ALL OF THEM ARE. SOME ARE OUT IN THE PACIFIC, SOME ARE ON TRAIN PLATFORMS IN ENGLAND, BUT THERE'S A MOVIE IN EACH ONE. # I'M GONNA BATHE... # AND WHEN HE WAS ASKED TO WRITE A SONG FOR TOA FRASER'S 'NO. 2', DON STRUCK GOLD AGAIN. THE RUNAWAY SUCCESS OF 'BATHE IN THE RIVER' SURPRISING EVERYONE, INCLUDING SINGER HOLLY SMITH. I GET SO MANY PEOPLE COMING UP SAYING THAT IT'S BEEN SUNG AT WEDDINGS, IT'S BEEN SANG AT FUNERALS, IT'S SUNG AT ALL THESE INCREDIBLE LIFE EVENTS FOR PEOPLE. AND I GUESS THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF DON'S MUSIC. HE'S SUCH A BEAUTIFUL ORATOR AND STORYTELLER THAT HIS LYRICS AND STORYTELLING ARE SO POWERFUL TO PEOPLE BECAUSE IT RESONATES WITH SO MANY PEOPLE. IN TE REO MAORI: THE CREATOR AND COLLABORATOR KEEPS MOVING AND SURPRISING US AT EVERY TURN, AND SUCCESS HAS COME AGAIN WITH HIS OLD MATE HARRY SINCLAIR, CREATING MAGIC WITH AN ANIMATED KID'S SHOW, 'KIRI & LOU', FILLED WITH MUSICAL COMEDY AND CHARM AND TAPPING INTO THE TALENTS OF SO MANY KIWIS, INCLUDING SINGER JULIA DEANS, WHO DOES A BLOODY GOOD GLOW WORM. # THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT # INSIDE A SONG. # JUST A FAINT LITTLE LIGHT... # AND THAT GLOW WORM HAS A FAVOURITE MCGLASHAN SONG OF HER OWN ` THE FRONT LAWN TEAR-JERKER, 'ANDY'. GREW UP IN CHRISTCHURCH AND LIVED IN WELLINGTON, GOING TO AUCKLAND TO TAKAPUNA BEACH FOR THE FIRST TIME. AND THAT SONG JUST WENT` CAME BLARING INTO MY EARS. IT WAS LIKE, 'OH, HERE.' # ON TAKAPUNA BEACH. # AND THAT'S JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG CALLED DON MCGLASHAN. WHAT ARE YOU LIKE AT TAKING COMPLIMENTS? BECAUSE BEING INDUCTED INTO THE MUSIC HALL OF FAME IS ONE HELL OF A COMPLIMENT. IT'S THE BIGGEST COMPLIMENT, REALLY. YEAH, I... I'M JUST SORT OF GETTING MY HEAD AROUND IT. I THINK` THE MAIN THE MAIN WORRY IS, WILL THEY LET ME OUT? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S A` IS IT A PLACE THAT I CAN COME AND GO FROM? WILL THEY LOCK ME INTO IT? UNIVERSALLY LOVED AND RESPECTED, THERE REMAINS BUT ONE BURNING QUESTION ` WHAT'S THE WORST THING ABOUT DON MCGLASHAN? OH. WHAT'S` (LAUGHS) LAUGHS: WHAT'S THE WORST THING ABOUT DON MCGLASHAN? IT'S PROBABLY HEAPS, BUT HE'S REALLY NICE. LAUGHS: I DON'T KNOW. IT'S THE PLAGIARISM. HE'S A REALLY GOOD SINGER, SONGWRITER, COMPOSER, ARRANGER. YOU KNOW, SICKENING. YOU KNOW, I HAD THIS REALLY GOOD IDEA FOR A SONG, 'WANKER ME', AND HE... JUST TAKES` TAKES THESE IDEAS, TURNS THEM INTO HITS. I THINK HE'S REALLY EXACTING. THAT HE LIVES IN CANADA. MANY PEOPLE GET ACCUSED OF THAT AS IF IT'S A BAD THING. BUT ACTUALLY IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE IN THE` YOU'RE IN THE SERVICE OF SOMETHING BIGGER. SO MAYBE THE WORST THING IS THE BEST THING. HE IS A GREAT NEW ZEALANDER. WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A MOMENT. ON THE SHOW TOMORROW, ATTENTION HOT CHIP LOVERS ` WHY SOON IT MIGHT BE HARDER TO GET YOUR FINGERS ON THIS DEEP-FRIED TOMATO SAUCE-SMOTHERED DELICACY. THOSE WERE OUR PEOPLE TODAY, THAT WAS SEVEN SHARP TONIGHT. THE GREAT AUSSIE BAKE OFF IS UP NEXT. WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW. PO MARIE, CHEERIO. CAPTIONS BY JESSIE PURU, KITTY WASASALA AND SEAN LYDIARD. CAPTIONS WERE MADE WITH THE SUPPORT OF NZ ON AIR. WWW.ABLE.CO.NZ COPYRIGHT ABLE 2023