Anderson Cooper 360 Degrees Aired March 22, 2024 - 20:00 ET THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. … ANDERSON COOPER, CNN HOST, "ANDERSON COOPER 360": Tonight on 360, two stories sending shockwaves around the world. In Russia, at least 40 killed, more than a hundred wounded in a mass shooting on a horrific scale at a concert venue outside Moscow with ISIS now claiming responsibility and the gunmen apparently still at large. And in the U.K., a stunning revelation from the Princess of Wales. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CATHERINE PRINCESS OF WALES: In January, I underwent major abdominal surgery in London and at the time, it was thought that my condition was non-cancerous. The surgery was successful. However, tests after the operation found cancer had been present. (END VIDEO CLIP) COOPER: Good evening. Today Catherine Princess of Wales did something that tens of thousands of people around the world do every day, but few of any do in the spotlight that she's under. After months of near total seclusion and growing speculation she shared her cancer diagnosis and we want you to see her full statement. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PRINCESS CATHERINE: I wanted to take this opportunity to say thank you, personally, for all the wonderful messages of support and for your understanding whilst I've been recovering from surgery. It has been an incredibly tough couple of months for our entire family, but I've had a fantastic medical team who've taken great care of me, for which I am so grateful. In January, I underwent major abdominal surgery in London and at the time, it was thought that my condition was non-cancerous. The surgery was successful. However, tests after the operation found cancer had been present. My medical team therefore advised that I should undergo a course of preventative chemotherapy and I'm now in the early stages of that treatment. This, of course, came as a huge shock, and William and I have been doing everything we can to process and manage this privately for the sake of our `young family. As you can imagine, this has taken time. It has taken me time to recover from major surgery in order to start my treatment. But, most importantly, it has taken us time to explain everything to George, Charlotte and Louis in a way that is appropriate for them, and to reassure them that I am going to be okay. As I have said to them; I am well and getting stronger every day by focusing on the things that will help me heal; in my mind, body and spirits. Having William by my side is a great source of comfort and reassurance too. As is the love, support and kindness that has been shown by so many of you. It means so much to us both. We hope that you will understand that, as a family, we now need some time, space and privacy while I complete my treatment. My work has always brought me a deep sense of joy and I look forward to being back when I am able, but for now I must focus on making a full recovery. At this time, I am also thinking of all those whose lives have been affected by cancer. For everyone facing this disease, in whatever form, please do not lose faith or hope. You are not alone. (END VIDEO CLIP) COOPER: "You are not alone." She made that statement six hours ago when it was released. It's a point worth making, about 20 million people worldwide are diagnosed with cancer every year. The Princess and Prince William waited until their children George, Charlotte and Louis ages 10, 8 and 5 were out of school for Easter break before announcing Catherine's diagnosis. She underwent surgery as you know mid-January, stayed in the hospital for 13 days then returned home to Windsor just outside London to recover. Then late last month a royal source says Catherine started - what the Princess today called preventative chemotherapy. The source says her treatment began not long after King Charles revealed his own cancer diagnosis. Today's announcement comes just days after video of Catherine and William surfaced in the middle of a medical privacy scandal at the private London hospital where she had her surgery. For more on all of this now, Senior Royal Correspondent, Max Foster, starts us off. So what more do we know about the Princess of Wales condition? MAX FOSTER, CNN ROYAL CORRESPONDENT: So we're not going to be told what type of cancer it is. I've only been told that chemotherapy, early stages of it, it started in late February. And this, of course, comes after that hospital visit in January. So she didn't think she had cancer going into hospital. Tests were done when she was there and she found out later that there were signs of cancer. And this was, of course, the same time that King Charles was in the hospital for another procedure and he found out exactly the same thing that he also had cancer. [20:05:03] So the parallels there are quite extraordinary and the King has been speaking a bit about that today as well. But I think it's a very - when you saw her in that video, it was a very, very hard thing for her to do. It was her decision to do it in that way and to speak in the way that she did, very difficult thing to do. I think she feels that she's done enough now and now she's shared as much information as she can. And now she wants to spend time with her family effectively and recover. COOPER: So you do not expect any more updates from Kensington Palace. FOSTER: We're being told there will be an update, of course, if there's a major improvement or she gets much worse. But away from that what they're calling for is you know we've given you as much information as we can. And the public has a right to know that, this is the future queen. But they don't want to share anything beyond that and they particularly don't want to share any moments where they're seen out and about. They're really appealing to the media and the public not to take videos if they're seen. A lot of people saying well why don't they just stay at home if they don't want to be seen. It's crucial to them as a family that the kids have as much normality as possible. So they want to go about their lives. She wants to go to hospital visits for her chemo and she doesn't want to be photographed and those images shared. So this is a deal if you like. We're going to share this information but the deal back is you're going to give us the privacy that we think we deserve. COOPER: Do you think that will actually work? FOSTER: I think it will actually to some extent with the media. Of course, what's extraordinary about this situation, what we've had is this explosion in conspiracy theory on social media. I've never seen anything like it and there are people out there making money getting views from these extraordinary videos. I think people will be posting. I don't think the media is going to be reflecting a lot of that, because those conspiracy theories weren't true. She just had cancer and she didn't tell us straight away because she's protecting her kids. And I think there's a lot of sympathy in the media about that. We'll have to see. I mean I'd say the British tabloids got a pretty bad reputation in this country for invading her privacy. But from the people I've spoken to within those tabloids, they're not going to cross the line on this one. There's sympathy there. There's understanding and they - I think they feel that the palace has been quite transparent. COOPER: What have other members of the royal family or Catherine's family said or reacted to or how have they reacted? FOSTER: Well it's interesting that point I was making about how Kate came across and how she really gave a lot of herself in that video, I think I've spent a lot of time with her over the years. I've interviewed her. It is not her comfortable place to be particularly talking about personal stuff. The King said I'm so proud of Catherine for her courage in speaking as she did. The closest contact with his beloved daughter-in-law, he talked about that sort of language. They spent time in the hospital together. They had you know a really central time together when they were in hospital. James, her brother, posted a very sort of sweet picture of them when they were younger. He said, "Over the years, we've climbed many mountains together. As a family, we will climb this one with you." And a bit later on in the day, I also got a message from Prince Harry's team - Prince Harry and Meghan's team. Prince Harry and Meghan say, "We wish health and healing for Kate and the family, and hope that they're able to do so privately and in peace." So speaking to the same message coming together really with William and Kate on this. COOPER: Max Foster, thanks very much. Joining us now is Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta. Sanjay, what stands out to you from what we heard from Princess Catherine today from a medical standpoint? SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, I mean the big headline, of course, was that she is talking about the fact that she's been diagnosed with cancer. We - I think there's been some concern for some time, you put that timeline up, we can show back in January, middle of January is when she had the operation. But you may remember even before that, there was this discussion that maybe we wouldn't see the princess until Easter, so several months after the operation. And that sort of I think in a medical sense signaled some level of concern but it was still pretty opaque. Now we know in fact it is cancer. She had that operation. She recovered for two weeks. At some point in there, the cancer diagnosis was made and she started the chemotherapy back at the end of February about three weeks ago, three and a half weeks ago. So starting to get a better sense of the timeline and what's been going on over the past couple of months because frankly a lot of it didn't make sense before. What would take somebody into a situation where they couldn't - they weren't essentially going to be seen for three months, why does someone need to stay in the hospital for so long after the operation. Now it's starting to fit a little bit more, but there's still a lot of things we don't know. [20:10:00] And that may be the way that they wanted it. As Max said, we don't know what kind of cancer. We don't know what stage. We don't know what the chemotherapy is. We don't know how long that will last. So these are still things that are a little bit unclear. COOPER: How would a cancer diagnosis like this have come about? I mean we know - she said she had major abdominal surgery. Do surgeons take samples during that for further testing? Is that how something would be found out later? GUPTA: Yes. And going back to that original operation, again it sounds like there was a level of concern already. I mean you know we don't typically do exploratory operations. It's usually pretty directed operation because of some level of concern. And even at the time of the operation they do something that are called frozen sections where they'll actually look at the tissue right at the time of the operation. And that's typically done to say, look, is there cancer here? And if so are we getting it all? Are there margins around that cancer that don't look cancerous? Meaning we're getting all of the affected tissue out. So a lot of that would probably be known at the time of the operation, middle of January. But it can take a few days, maybe a week or so after that to confirm that in fact it is cancer. So most likely if you just look at that timeline it was probably end of January, sort of probably before she was discharged from the hospital - the Princess - that they knew at that point what they were dealing with. COOPER: And she's 42 years old. How prevalent are cancer diagnoses in women in that age range? GUPTA: Well, they're more prevalent than they are in men that age range, but less prevalent than in women who are older. So it is - there are certain types of cancers that are more common at certain ages. One thing and I know you've talked to other doctors today about this, but colorectal cancers - we used to recommend screening for people after the age of 50. But that screening, as you know, has come down now to the age of 45, because you're just seeing those types of cancers in younger populations. We don't know what kind of cancer she has. I just want to state that again and she's totally entitled to her privacy on this. But there are certain cancers which are going to be more common at certain ages and more likely in women versus men. COOPER: But anybody out there from 45 on should have screening for colorectal cancer. GUPTA: That's right. And that is - that was a change. American Cancer Society, the United States Preventive Services Taskforce coming out and saying 45 is now the age, because we think you're going to catch enough cancers by doing these screenings earlier that it makes it worth the while. COOPER: Sanjay, thank you. Appreciate it. A perspective now from CNN Royal Historian, Kate Williams and British television's Trisha Goddard, host of this week with Trisha Goddard. Thank you for being with us here. First of all your reaction to - we spoke earlier but I'm wondering ... TRISHA GODDARD, TALK SHOW HOST, "THE WEEK WITH TRISHA GODDARD: Yes, yes. COOPER: ... as you've been thinking about it, what's your reaction to what - the statement that was made? GODDARD: My heart went out to Catherine. As we talked about before, I came out about my own cancer, what, just last week and you and I have worked together. We've done - covered royal things and I've worn my wig and no one's known for 19 months that I've been going through cancer. So I understand her wish to be normal and not become the diagnosis. And as Max said it would have been a very difficult thing to come out about - I mean, I'm used to - this is my job and this is what I do. But when I talked about it to a magazine it was terribly difficult because you think how are people going to treat me differently. And also when she talks about the children telling one's children at any age is a really difficult thing to do. And it's -- COOPER: Especially the age range. I mean ... GODDARD: Yes. COOPER: ... her oldest is 10. Her youngest is five. GODDARD: Yes, especially, and also the worry about the headlines. However you talk to them about it and you can always point to people. I mean, when my children were younger when I went through cancer the first time in 2008 I said look at Kylie Minogue, I mean she's out there singing. But the thing is if you've got the media talking about as they have been in some section of the British media cancer stricken King Charles and is she going to die, anything talk about death and the headlines are going to be very traumatic. So I think it's very telling that she's told the children during these - the holidays when she can be close to them when they're not going to hear through a schoolmate or this sort of thing. COOPER: Kate, how difficult do you think it's been for the royal family to not only go through her cancer battle privately amidst such a flurry of speculation but also right after King Charles' own cancer diagnosis? KATE WILLIAMS, CNN ROYAL HISTORIAN: Yes. As you say Anderson, I mean this has been a huge blow to the royal family. The King went in for a routine operation. Then we found the King had cancer and was having treatment. And we don't have a timeline as to when we're going to see the King again out in public. [20:15:05] We believe that in Trooping of the Colour, which is in June, he may be in a carriage. We're seeing these wonderful pictures here of the coronation. What a fantastic time that - we were together covering that, me, you and Trisha just a year ago and things have changed so much. Now we have the King who is unwell and we now also have Kate who's out of action as well. So the royal family which was a slimmed down royal family that was Charles's project now is seeming quite slim really because we have two major royals out of action and also with Camilla and William, two other royals who want to take time a little bit away from their duties to look after them. So we are seeing a royal family that's very different to the one we saw under the Queen. The Queen who went on forever never seeming to even have a cold and a large amount of royals around her. COOPER: It was amazing, Trisha, just watching that that video. I mean she was so human and - I mean, for somebody - it's a very hard thing to do to make a statement like that and to have it be authentic and to have it be as beautifully done as it was. GODDARD: Yes. It would have been really difficult. She's obviously somewhere where she feels very comfortable and nature, I know it sounds silly, but being - even her message being out in nature, I think that helps as well. But I also think that having a little bit of power because one thing that cancer takes away from you is you look in the mirror or you start looking in the mirror, you see somebody different. And she probably knows what's ahead of her by the way. And also everybody's talking about you, about your diagnosis, about the cancer and you're scared that if - genuinely scared in her situation that if other news outlets or somebody leaks the documents and what have you, suddenly the story's not yours. COOPER: Also to know - and to know that somebody maybe - it seems like at least multiple people right now being suspected of having tried to access her ... GODDARD: Yes. COOPER: ... private medical information at the hospital. GODDARD: That would absolutely freak you out that you don't know where the headlines coming from and what they say because how sensational it may be. So I think she's getting back a little bit of power there. So yes it's scary, you feel very vulnerable but you actually think I'm able to say this in the language I want to. And I notice she picks her words very carefully when offering - saying to people going through this. She didn't say battling and I'm not - I do think we have to watch our language and that's what I read from what she said. She said it really beautifully and I think that message is going to be very powerful (inaudible) ... COOPER: And I love that "you're not alone" at the end as well, that's what she said. GODDARD: Yes, yes, yes. COOPER: Kate, I mean Kensington Palace does not expect to reveal any further medical details that - such the type of cancer, what stage is in. It's interesting because Prince Charles has - excuse me, King Charles has not said what kind of cancer he has. He went in for an enlarged prostate but he hasn't said what sort of cancer he was diagnosed with. She is not going to as well. I think to some Americans it might be - they may be surprised, well why wouldn't they say what kind of cancer. For the royal family, they have already gone farther probably than any previous generation of royals has gone in disclosing information. WILLIAMS: Yes, Anderson, you're totally right. I mean, this is further than any royals have ever gone. We weren't told Prince Philip was ill really until the final stages. We weren't told the Queen was unwell until really the day in which she passed away. So it was such a shock. And for example the Queen's grandfather - the Queen's father George VI, no one knew he had cancer not even his daughter. So she set off on a tour to Kenya and she was in a hotel up a tree over a water hole when she became queen. And so we are at an unprecedented level of transparency, and honesty and vulnerability. And it was so powerful to hear Trisha talking there about getting back some of her power as someone going through cancer. That was - I think that's so important and such a key point. And you know what I thought about Anderson when I was watching the video message, I mean that is unprecedented too. Normally the royals put out statements as they did with the King, a statement from Kensington Palace saying the Queen is suffering - the Prince is suffering cancer. But we had a video statement which to me was so like the Queen when she addressed us in times of great need. COOPER: Kate Williams, Trisha Goddard, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Much more ahead tonight, next, how Catherine and William became friends and a couple and a family now facing some challenging days ahead. Also the very latest from Russia where ISIS now says it was responsible for murdering dozens and wounding many more at that concert hall outside Moscow. We'll be right back. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) [20:21:29] COOPER: President Biden just sent his best wishes to the Princess of Wales. His tweet reads: "Jill and I join millions around the world in praying for your full recovery, Princess Kate." A message from one family to another which underscores what sometimes gets overlooked in the focus on titles that at the end of the day the royal family is in fact a family. And for more than 20 years Prince William and Catherine have been a couple and are now the parents of three. More on their story from our Randi Kaye. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PRINCE CATHERINE: We hope that you'll understand that as a family we now need some time space and privacy while I complete my treatment. I must focus on making a full recovery. (END VIDEO CLIP) RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): The Princess of Wales is putting her health and her family first as she's revealed she's being treated for cancer. Long before she became a royal, she was simply Catherine Elizabeth Middleton. Catherine grew up a commoner. Her parents met while working for British Airways. Later their successful internet business and newfound wealth allowed them to move into an affluent area and send Catherine to Marlborough College an elite boarding school. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) RICHARD QUEST, CNN BUSINESS EDITOR-AT-LARGE: Upper middle class went to a good private school then went to a good university and it's there that she met her prince. (END VIDEO CLIP) KAYE (voice over): Her prince as in William the future Prince of Wales and the son of King Charles III and Princess Diana. From 2002 to 2005 the two shared living quarters with their friends at the University of St Andrews in Scotland. They were both studying art history before William switched to geography. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) WILLIAM, PRINCE OF WALES: But it's often said by the undergraduates of St Andrews, that you leave the university in either one of two states: either married or an alcoholic. So fortunately for Catherine and me, we ended up married. (END VIDEO CLIP) KAYE (voice over): By Christmas 2003 their romance had blossomed and the couple fell in love. They dated for about six years. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PRINCE WILLIAM: (Inaudible) very, very happy. (END VIDEO CLIP) KAYE (voice over): Then in October 2010 while on holiday together in Kenya, William proposed. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PRINCESS CATHERINE: We had a wonderful holiday in Africa and it was out there and then in a very quiet lodge and it was very romantic. (END VIDEO CLIP) KAYE (voice over): Catherine's engagement ring the diamond sapphire that originally belonged to Princess Diana. PRINCE WILLIAM: It's my mother's engagement ring. It was my way of making sure my mother didn't miss out on - today and the excitement and the fact that we're going to spend the rest of our lives together. (END VIDEO CLIP) KAYE (voice over): On April 29th 2011, they got married at Westminster Abbey. Catherine Middleton was now the Duchess of Cambridge. Her first official royal business an overseas tour of North America. From the start, Catherine warmed up to crowds and had little trouble keeping up with her husband. Catherine also developed a bond with King Charles. They were known to take private trips to art galleries and operas together. The couple made Kensington Palace their London home but they weren't living alone for very long. In July 2013 Catherine gave birth to Prince George. Nearly two years later, Princess Charlotte was born. The couple's third child, Prince Louis, arrived in 2018. She seemed to relish the role of motherhood and Catherine's love of children carried over into her charity work too. She has focused on children's mental health and early childhood education. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) PRINCESS CATHERINE: The best investment for our future health and happiness is in the first five years of life. And that is why today I'm launching the Royal Foundation Centre for Early Childhood. (END VIDEO CLIP) [20:25:05] KAYE (voice over): Now as Catherine the Princess of Wales takes time to heal, she will find comfort in her children and her husband the heir apparent to the British throne. Randi Kaye, CNN. (END VIDEOTAPE) COOPER: Well, we mentioned at the top of the broadcast about 20 million people a year are diagnosed with cancer which means 20 million conversations with family and friends and workmates. Only rarely does that conversation go beyond that sphere let alone shared with the entire world. Joining me now is CNN Anchor Sara Sidner who recently went public with her own cancer diagnosis. Thank you so much for being with us. SARA SIDNER, CNN ANCHOR & SENIOR NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Thanks for having me on, Anderson. COOPER: For you, what were the considerations in preparing to be public about it in the same way that Catherine had to make these preparations? SIDNER: Yes. I'm just a plebeian. Princess Catherine has such a big footprint in the world where people are constantly coming after her and you can really understand why someone in that role wanted something to be private particularly for her children. I think we can all understand her wanting to keep this to protect them. I mean, it's right and it's honorable. But there are lots of different considerations that I sort of went through before I decided to go public. Some of it was I just didn't want all the fuss. I didn't want the looks. I didn't want the concern. I mean, when I told a few people I got reactions everywhere from people bawling their eyes out and then I, of course, reacted to that trying to console them. And people telling me it's going to be okay everything's going to be fine. How do you know, right? And so while you're already processing that, it is very hard to tell someone else about it while you yourself are not sure you're going to survive something or you don't understand how long this is going to go, how much this is going to affect your life and here you are telling the world about it. COOPER: Also just going through chemotherapy, can you talk about that a little bit because Catherine has talked about that and had said she'd like - to still try to do work when she can. You are still working. What did - how is that? SIDNER: It's exhausting. I will tell you chemotherapy while it saves your life and I'm happy it's here, it strips you of how you see yourself and it strips you of all sorts of things. Every single bite of food that I take tastes like metal for me and that happens with a lot of people. But chemo is very different and I didn't know this before starting. I thought chemotherapy was sort of a single thing that everybody got no matter what the cancer is. It's different cocktails for different people. COOPER: Some people are taking a pill ... SIDNER: Right. Some - I get it intravenously and it strips you of your energy. It strips you of your hair. It strips you of - for many women who have for example breast cancer or ovarian cancer - of the ability to have children, you go into menopause. These are people that can be very young that are having to deal with this idea that they may never be able to have children again. And so there are so many things that it does to your system. You do not feel like yourself, but if you can continue to work and I was told you can continue to work out, it can help you through it a bit because your concentration isn't just on I have cancer. Your mind can be somewhere else and that's been a help to me and she may feel the same way. COOPER: I mean, Kate's only 42 years old and we're hearing a lot more about cancer in young people. Sanjay was on talking about with colorectal cancer. They've now lowered the age at which you should be screened for to 45. SIDNER: It terrifies me looking at these numbers. There was a study that just came out that looked at the last 29 years of cancer in young people and it found that around the world they looked at 204 countries that it's gone up 79 percent in people who are teens or below the age of 50. This is not counting babies, this is talking about 13 to young adults. And look at that number, like what is happening in this world where young people are having to experience this. And once you get a cancer diagnosis, once you have one single cell of cancer in your body. It changes your life and for most of us forever. COOPER: The impact, though, of you being upfront about this in a public way of Catherine doing this as well, I mean people will go and get tested who might not have thought about it. We've seen that with Prince Charles - I keep calling him Prince Charles - King Charles, people going in for prostate exams has gone up in the UK. SIDNER: It is the reason why I did it. I mean, ultimately there was something funny. I know cancer is not funny but I have to joke about it. Black Twitter went crazy because I wore an ill-fitting wig as I was pulling out handfuls of hair, we put on a wig it didn't fit right and I was questioned and criticized and they're like what happened to her hair. And I decided - had decided a couple of days before that I was going to do it, but not right away, and I decided okay you're going to treat this like a public service announcement, because you got to remind people to get their tests, you got to remind people to go and get mammograms and all these different things. And the reaction has been so beautiful and so comforting. [20:29:59] And I've learned things from people reaching out to me and everyone wants to help, but they also told me I went to get my mammogram and there was nothing more wonderful to hear that from people I know and people that I didn't know. So there is a real public service here, just by her announcing that she's going through this at 42 years old, it will help so many people to say, look, she's going through it. I can do it too. COOPER: Sara Sidner, you're a princess here at CNN. SIDNER: That is not what most people say. COOPER: Sara Sidner, thank you. Coming up next, more breaking news. At least 40 people now that is we known dead and more than 100 wounded after a mass shooting at a popular concert venue near Moscow. ISIS has claimed responsibility. The suspects reportedly still at large. Everything we know about this rapidly developing story, we'll tell you next. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) COOPER: The other breaking news story we've been following for hours today, at least 40 people are dead and more than 100 wounded in an attack in a concert venue near Moscow. We have new videos show you people trying to take cover and escape danger. I want to warn you some of what you'll see is disturbing. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (FOREIGN LANGUAGE) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) [20:35:25] COOPER: You see people hiding during the gunshot, and they break windows and they're trying to escape the danger. Here's another angle of the panics. People start to hear gunshots realizing what is happening. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (END VIDEO CLIP) COOPER: There's also some videos of what unfolded inside the concert hall. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (END VIDEO CLIP) COOPER: There's a gunman shooting at people who were off camera. There are other videos which we aren't showing which are more disturbing, a gunman shooting point blank at people cowering for cover. The Russian Health Minister says that this is the deadliest terror attack in Russia in decades. ISIS has now claimed responsibility. CNN chief global affairs correspondent Matthew Chance joins us now. So, what do we know about this attack at this hour, and about the ISIS group that claim to have carried it out? MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN CHIEF GLOBAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT: Well, honestly, it terms to the attack, we know that it's come to an end, although the fires inside the shopping mall and the concert venue, which had been raging, have not quite been brought under control yet. Firefighters saying that they're sort of getting to the top floor of the building where the roof collapse, and they're finding groups of bodies, sort of the dead, you know, dead people as a result of the fire. And it's taken the death toll now, according to official figures, to 60 people. That's according to the local authorities there in that area near Moscow. And they're saying that that toll, that figure could increase in the hours ahead as firefighters and emergency workers make their way through the rubble of this burnt out building. And that's in addition to the 140 or so people that have been injured, some of them seriously and who have been hospitalized. And so, this is an incredibly serious major event taking place so close to the Russian capital. In terms of what's known about the group, ISIS-K is the sort of subdivision of ISIS that has claimed responsibility for this. ISIS-K, K for Khorasan which operates out of Afghanistan and Pakistan, although they've got an agenda to attack targets internationally apparently whenever they can. We do know that there is a consistent, a constant level of ISIS threat inside Russia. Russia, of course, was instrumental in ending ISIS and fighting ISIS, particularly in Syria where it engaged in a very ferocious air campaign against ISIS positions. And there are consistently in Russia, arrests of suspected ISIS members, attacks that are thwarted, and things like that attributed to ISIS. And so, this is the latest and the most serious ISIS attack in Russia if it is then that we've seen for some time. COOPER: Yes. At least you're the one who told us that information, at least 60 now dead, 100 plus wounded. So there was a warning put out by US officials about a possible attack. And CNN (inaudible) US intelligence agencies warn Russia that ISIS was determined to attack inside their country. What do we know about the intelligence that led to this warning? CHANCE: Well, it's partly what I was just saying, which is that, you know, there is a lot of ISIS activity inside of Russia. And what US intelligence officials are telling CNN now is that they've been consistently sort of warning Russia since November really, in identifying threats that ISIS was planning some kind of large scale attack against concentrations of people in Russia. That's been going on for some weeks or some months. And it culminated in that public warning that was issued on March 7th by the US Embassy in Moscow, saying that, you know, an attack was imminent and that large concentrations of people were being targeted particularly in concerts, warning American citizens to stay away. [20:40:10] We now know that that intelligence was obviously -- also shared with the Russians. But we also know that it's not clear the Russians took that intelligence seriously. The Russian President Vladimir Putin, basically calling it a provocation a few days after the embassy alert was put out, saying it was intended to destabilize society in Russia. But, you know, obviously, the events of tonight give us a very different perspective on what the US government was saying. COOPER: And have Russian authorities made any comments since ISIS claimed credit for the attack? CHANCE: No. I mean, it's -- they've been sort of deafening in their silence. I mean, there's been obviously some comments by the local officials who are engaged in the operation to sort of get people to hospital and to clear up. But in terms of the top leadership of the country, the president, President Putin, we've not heard anything from him. There was an alert put out on Russian television, that he was going to make an address, but then he never turned up. And then Russian television said, oh, it was a technical error. He was never meant to give a speech. But it's remarkable that a man who sort of sells himself as the sort of center of stability, the guarantor of stability in Russia, has not yet said a word about this appalling terrorist attack that's taken place so close to his capital. COOPER: Yes. Matthew Chance, thank you. Appreciate it. Perspective now from Dan Reed, the Director of "Terror in Moscow," a documentary detailing the 2002 Moscow theater hostage crisis, also with us is former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe. Andrew, first of all, I'm wondering what your reaction is to the reporting by Matthew Chance about the death toll now, at least 60 believed, but also knowing ISIS claiming responsibility, ISIS-K. ANDREW MCCABE, FORMER FBI DEPUTY DIRECTOR: Yes, Anderson. It's a kind of a remarkable development. I think, initially, if you're looking at this, historically, it seems a little bit off brand. But if you look at the signals and signs that the intelligence community has been referencing in the last few months, it's actually you see an interesting pattern emerging. So we have the attack by ISIS a few months ago in Iran, targeting the memorial service for the commemorating the death of General Qasem Soleimani. And then now you have an attack in Russia. and preceding the attack, There are numerous statements we now know from official statements from ISIS, talking about Russia, talking about Putin, talking about how they have the blood of Muslims on their hand because of their activities in Syria specifically. So these are two attacks directed at the two nations primarily responsible for the bolstering of the Assad regime in Syria. So it starts to feel like a concentrated effort, certainly an effort on the part of ISIS-Khorasan to kind of establish themselves as an organization that's capable of taking on external operations waging attacks in foreign countries. So it's really interesting and concerning development, and I would expect that my former colleagues in the intelligence community here in the United States are very concerned about this resurgence, this new kind of capability for ISIS- Khorasan. COOPER: Dan, your documentary, "Terror in Moscow," which I have watched several times and is extraordinary, it looked at the 2002 attack in a Moscow theater with Chechen terrorists took roughly 850 hostages. It lasted for several days that Russian Special Forces, Spetsnaz, finally put in an unnamed gas into the theater, and actually ended up killing more hostages than were killed by the terrorists themselves. Based on what we now know, how do you compare that situation to this one? DAN REED, DIRECTOR, "TERROR IN MOSCOW": Well, 2002 theater siege that went on for four days and involved a much larger number of terrorists and these -- the famous so called Black Widows with their bombs. And it was really a hostage situation. What you saw today was four gunmen, as far as I can see, one of them weirdly carrying a sort of homemade flamethrower, entering this theater and just killing and killing, and killing, which is kind of ISI' usual MO as far as we can tell. Interestingly, this is the same group that killed 13 Americans in Kabul Airport in August 2021, 13 servicemembers. And so, yes, they obviously they came not to hold hostages, not to ask for anything in particular, not to negotiate. They just came to kill, and I'm rather astonished that these four men appeared to be still on the loose. COOPER: Andrew, you mentioned the ISIS attack in Iran, the warning before it by the US. The same type of warning seems to have happened here. Can you talk more about when and how US intelligence alerts even adversaries about terrorism? [20:45:06] MCCABE: Sure. It's a widely accepted concept in the -- certainly in the counterterrorism community globally, referred to as a duty to warn. So when you, through your investigative efforts, pick up intelligence indicating that there's going to be an attack targeting citizens of another country, you provide as much warning to that country as you can to protect their folks. And it would surprise probably most people outside the counterterrorism community. But these warnings happen even between, frequently between countries that have very challenging diplomatic interactions. In some ways, terrorism is the kind of common denominator among nations. It's the -- oftentimes it's the only issue that some countries can agree upon that fight against extremism, and particularly Islamic extremism that seems to touch everyone in their home country. So you sometimes see intelligence exchanges and things like that among countries that you wouldn't expect. Certainly in the case like this, where you have intelligence about a civilian attack, you would pass that along no matter what the other conditions were between the holder and the recipient of that information. COOPER: Dan, what do you think of Russian capabilities are to counterterrorism? Because again, you know, the response by Russian Special Forces to the Moscow theater attack back in 2002 ended up killing a lot of hostages. REED: Well, they seem to -- yes. I mean, that was a huge disaster for the Spetsnaz because they ended up suffering from the gas that they pumped into the theater and being unable to extract the hostages in a healthy manner, and more hostages died of -- in the Spetsnaz rescue operation than were killed by the terrorists. In this case, they, you know, the reaction seems to have been very slow in Moscow and there seems to have been no, as far as I can tell by reading Russian telegram from a Russian speaker, there seems to be no exchange of gunfire between Russian security forces and the terrorists. COOPER: That's incredible. Dan Reed, appreciate your time, Andrew McCabe as well. Next, more from former President Trump making an announcement that may have caught his own lawyers off guard about the nearly half a billion dollars he owes to the state of New York by Monday. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) [20:50:34] COOPER: Only 72 hours or so left for Donald Trump to come up with nearly half a billion dollars for his civil fraud settlement. Tonight, he is now claiming he does have the cash which of course undercuts his own lawyers who told an appeals court this week he would not be able to make the $464 million bond. Posting on Truth Social, the former president said he currently has "almost $500 million in cash," which he, "intended to use for his reelection campaign." 24 hours ago, the former president claiming that making bond was "impossible to do today," another development. The company that owns True Social is about to go public after a merger was approved, which means that the Donald Trump has a dominant shareholder stands to earn a windfall estimated more than $3 billion. But experts say it's unlikely to solve the immediate cash crunch he has because he may not be able to sell shares right away. Joining me now is Trump biographer, investigative reporter David Cay Johnston and former federal prosecutor Preet Bharara. Preet, I mean, is there any legal issue with the former president undercutting his own lawyer's claims about how much money he has? PREET BHARARA, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: Yes, because you take a person who is in the hot seat like he is and his word, and you make representations of the court. And his lawyers have done, you know, given what facts they have and the circumstances that they're in, a pretty good job of pleading, not poverty, but not enough money to make this work. They have set forth in a way that's kind of embarrassing to the former president, how 30 different bond insurance companies have said, no, they will not post a bond for him because they they're deemed them untrustworthy or not worth -- it's not worth the effort for them. And so after pleading hardship and saying it's impractical or impossible to post this money, he undermined himself and it causes people, including the judge, in this case, I would imagine, not to have any particular sympathy. COOPER: It makes no sense that he would do that. I mean, just from a logic standpoint, unless he was so ashamed, and people believe he didn't have the money. He just wanted to say he had the money but he was planning to use it for another purpose. BHARARA: It's been a long time since I've spent my time analyzing the psychology and the decision making of Donald Trump. COOPER: And you're much healthier for it. BHARARA: Much healthier for it. Look, he's always got two constituencies. He has whatever, you know, court and judge or panel of judges, is relevant and has authority and the instant situation. And he also has the broad public, a subset of which is his supporters. You know, we've seen in all these proceedings, civil and criminal, he's playing both to the court, and probably more so to his constituency. And he wants his constituency to believe that he's cash rich, that he's otherwise rich, that he's flush with money. He doesn't need to declare bankruptcy and everything's hunky dory. And it's not. COOPER: David, I mean, you reported in the former president's finances for years. Is it possible that he has $500 million cash he now claims because I remember not long ago, when he complained posting the bond would be "practically impossible." DAVID CAY JOHNSTON, TRUMP BIOGRAPHER: Well, there are some possibilities here. Someone may have loaned him or fronted him the money, which could be and probably would be a national security nightmare. But there's another aspect to this, well, he can't sell his shares for six months. He can go to an investment house or a group of wealthy people. He can pledge his shares and get cash for them. Wall Street developed this back in the '90s when there were these entrepreneurs who took $100,000 salary, hadn't paid -- hadn't sold a single share of stock, but they had a Ferrari and a jet plane, and a mansion and a yacht. And that's how they did it. So it's possible. And then the investors, by shorting the stock that is selling shares they don't have or that they have, in hand in the future from Donald could protect themselves, if, as seems likely, the value of that company eventually falls to close to zero, because there's no revenue and no profits commensurate with the stock value. COOPER: Preet, the president's former attorney, Chris Kise, denied rumors that foreign money could be used for the bond. Generally speaking, though, I mean, how problematic is it that a person who's running for the presidency and very well could become the next president of United States is so cash strapped that that would even be a remote possibility? BHARARA: No. As we just said, this is a national security disaster. He could still come up with the money, it could be someone from a foreign country. [20:55:02] COOPER: Would he have to declare where the money came from? BHARARA: Almost certainly, yes. Because there are legal reasons why the court will want to know where the source of the funds is, make sure that he has proper authority to put up the funds. And by the way, just the other thing to note about all this, notwithstanding his lawyers making a sympathy case for him and saying he can't put up this money, this was not unforeseeable, right? He had a lot of opportunity to anticipate. Having been at trial, having been ruled against on the liability question, the entire trial in this case that we're talking about was only about the amount of money that he would have to put up. He knew how much the attorney general was seeking, he knew that there was a likelihood, or at least some possibility that the attorney general would win, and he understood the rule about prejudgment interest. So it was totally foreseeable months ago, not weeks ago, that he would have to put up a bond potentially of half a billion dollars. He could have taken all sorts of steps to liquidate, you know, to sell property, to have loans in place, to have a backup plan. And so, I think the court is not going to find him a sympathetic character in part because he had months and months, and months to plan for this. COOPER: He did not do that. BHARARA: He did not. COOPER: Preet Bharara, appreciate it, David Cay Johnston as well. Much more to come the next hour, the announcement from Katherine, Prince of Wales as she's been undergoing treatment for cancer. We'll be right back. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) Anderson Cooper 360 Degrees Aired March 22, 2024 - 21:00 ET THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. [21:00:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK) ANDERSON COOPER, CNN HOST: It is 9 PM, here in New York, late night in the United Kingdom, after a day that saw Catherine, Princess of Wales, make millions of people there, and many more millions around the world, a part of her cancer journey. A day also marked by the murder of dozens of people at a concert hall, outside Moscow, the gunmen, apparently still at large, and ISIS claiming responsibility. We'll have the latest on that shortly. But first, Catherine's announcement, and CNN's Richard Quest. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) CATHERINE, PRINCESS OF WALES: It has been an incredibly tough couple of months for our entire family. RICHARD QUEST, CNN BUSINESS EDITOR AT LARGE (voice-over): After weeks of speculation, the Princess of Wales dispelled the rumors, and gave us the facts. PRINCESS CATHERINE: In January, I underwent major abdominal surgery, in London. And at the time, it was thought that my condition was non- cancerous. The surgery was successful. However, tests after the operation found cancer had been present. My medical team, therefore, advised that I should undergo a course of preventative chemotherapy. And I'm now in the early stages of that treatment. QUEST (voice-over): Suddenly, so clear why Kate's recovery, after leaving The London Clinic, had taken so long, and why she'd avoided the public eye. PRINCESS CATHERINE: This of course came as a huge shock. And William and I have been doing everything we can to process and manage this privately, for the sake of our young family. QUEST (voice-over): The diagnosis is still visibly raw. But CNN understands, the Princess is and has been in good spirits. Kate and Prince William are focusing, on how to explain the diagnosis, to their young children, the three, last seen with their mother, in the now infamous and doctored Mother's Day photo. The many edits, fueling the rumors about the Princess' health, that all seems irrelevant now. With King Charles, also recovering from cancer, the Princess' PR nightmare came at a delicate time, for the Royal Family. It left William and Queen Camilla, to hold the fort. Now, as she heals, Princess Catherine is asking for privacy and time. PRINCESS CATHERINE: My work has always brought me a deep sense of joy. And I look forward to being back when I am able. But for now, I must focus on making a full recovery. QUEST (voice-over): Britain has seemingly rallied, behind its Princess. Prince Charles saying he was proud, praising Kate's courage. And the British Prime Minister, Rishi Sunak, wishing her a speedy recovery, promising the love and support of the entire country. PRINCESS CATHERINE: I am well, and getting stronger every day, by focusing on the things that will help me heal, in my mind, body and spirits. QUEST (voice-over): And now, the Princess of Wales hopes to be left alone, to focus on her family and her recovery. (END VIDEOTAPE) COOPER: Richard Quest joins us now, from London. What's been the reaction there, to her diagnosis? QUEST: Oh, shock, absolute shock. In a sense, this relationship that people have, with the Royal Family, that I have, as a British citizen, and to the Royal Family, people you don't know personally, but a part of your everyday life. And so, for someone like Princess Catherine, who's the future, with her children, the very epitome of modern royal life, more accessible, more ordinary, if you will. And now, to find out this news, and to wonder what the implications are, particularly Anderson, at a time, when His Majesty, the King, is also suffering from cancer. And the whole question of uncertainty, Meghan, and Harry, the whole, all the rumors and the conspiracy theories. Well, now we have certainty, at least in what we know is happening with William and Catherine. And people are basically saying, give them the time, the space and the peace. But they're doing so, from a feeling of great sympathy and shock. COOPER: Yes. Richard Quest, thank you. Joining us now is Dr. Zeke Emanuel, former Obama White House Health Policy Adviser, Vice Provost of Global Initiatives at the University of Pennsylvania, and Author of "Which Country Has the World's Best Health Care?" Also, Joanna Coles, former Chief Content Officer at Hearst Magazines, and holds the title of OBE, which stands for the Order of the British Empire. So, Dr. Emanuel, from what you heard from the Princess today, I'm wondering, from a medical standpoint, what you took away from it. DR. ZEKE EMANUEL, VICE PROVOST OF GLOBAL INITIATIVES, UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA, FORMER OBAMA WHITE HOUSE HEALTH POLICY ADVISER: Well, first of all, I haven't examined her. She's across the ocean. I haven't talked to her. I haven't seen the pathology of what they found. So, like many people, it's mere speculation. [21:05:00] But if they -- it's an abdominal cancer, she is not your classic case of any abdominal cancer. Most of them, like uterine cancer, or colorectal cancer, or pancreatic cancer, really occur in people much older. We have seen a rise in things, like colon cancer, in women, particularly under 50. It's the second leading cause of death. But it's going to be an unusual case, no matter what it is. If it was found, incidentally, based upon previous surgery that was done for other reasons, we can only hope that it was pretty small. That does occur, with things, like pancreatic cancer, where it's an incidental finding, related to a previous cancer. But I have no idea, in her particular case. COOPER: Yes. EMANUEL: One thing I do know is a 42-year-old woman, otherwise healthy, with three young kids, is a shock. And I really understand why she has asked for privacy, and why she's been elusive, these last few months, just turned her whole life upside. COOPER: Yes, I can only imagine. Joanna, I mean, this announcement was very different, obviously, than the way King Charles announced his cancer. Both have said -- haven't specified what sort of cancer. I'm wondering what you made of how this came out today. JOANNA COLES, FORMER CHIEF CONTENT OFFICER, HEARST: Well, first of all, I mean, is there anything more frightening, as a parent, than learning that you have cancer? You have two small children. I have small children, I mean. COOPER: Yes. COLES: Well, actually, they're older now. But it was my absolute fear. So very, I feel very much for Kate. COOPER: I feel for -- I think about the kids, at age 10, or five or eight, being told that your parent has cancer. COLES: Oh, so scary. COOPER: And the terror that they must feel about that. COLES: So scary. And also, all their friends at school will now know, too. And then, of course, you've had all the frenzied speculation, of what's wrong with her, because people realize that something was not right. I do think though, that when you are a public figure, it's very, it's almost easier to just come out, say what it is, and then retreat, rather than to have this sort of half-knowledge for the public. I mean, if I were to call you and say, Anderson, I've got some news, I've got cancer? The first question you would ask me is, well, what kind of cancer? So now, everybody's speculating about what kind of cancer. And of course, people are immensely sympathetic to her. But I almost wonder if it's not just easier for Kensington Palace, who manages her and Williams' press, to just say, this is what we're dealing with, we're going to take some time out now, to recover or have our treatment. And then, I think people would leave them alone. COOPER: Yes. COLES: But of course, this half -- half-managing it unleashes another layer of speculation. COOPER: We should point out King Charles has also not said what sort of cancer he has. COLES: Absolutely. COOPER: That he went in for an enlarged prostate. COLES: And I think that the Palace are used to dealing with media issues, by dealing with the tabloid press. And in a way, they're fighting the last war. And obviously, that was an issue around Princess Diana. But it's much harder for them to manage social media, because everybody's a journalist now. COOPER: Yes. COLES: As we saw, when Kate released her photo, and then everybody turned into an armchair detective, and realized the photo had been tampered with. COOPER: Yes. COLES: And I think also, everybody is so excited about Kate, it's hard to -- it's hard to overstate how popular she is. Because after Princess Diana, and the Duchess of York, known as Fergie, Kate really seemed to have a grip on it. COOPER: Yes. COLES: And she really seemed to enjoy it, was very popular with people. So, this is a real setback, I think. COOPER: Dr. Emanuel, Princess Catherine mentioned, trying to resume public duties, to some extent, in terms -- obviously, because we don't know what kind of the cancer, there's different forms of chemotherapy. What kind of -- I mean, what does chemotherapy look like? What sort of -- what can -- what is the range of things that a patient going through chemotherapy would expect? EMANUEL: Well, again, Anderson, you've nailed it on the head. We have no idea what kind of cancer she has. And the chemotherapies will be very different for different types of cancer. And the intensity of those will be very different. Whether she loses her hair or not, how many cycles she has to go through. So, I think, we just can't tell. If it's actually relatively small? They got the cancer. This is a sort of four cycles of something, just to make sure that they got everything. She, you know, that's you can count four months. But who knows? It's very hard to tell without a real diagnosis. [21:10:00] COOPER: Joanna, do you think that she will get the privacy that she has requested? I mean, it seemed, when we talked to Max Foster earlier, who said he thinks that the major publications in England will -- in the U.K. will abide by that. COLES: Yes. I mean, the major publications, in England, have been pretty good about leaving her alone actually, until recently. And that's because, of course, they've got to try and compete with social media. But also, they have a sort of uneasy alliance with the Palace. They need the Palace. The Palace needs them. So, it's a sort of tricky detente, if you like. But I do think -- I do think so. I mean, cancer is one of those words that strikes fear into everybody. And yet, there's 18 million cancer survivors, living in America, at the moment. The prognosis from what she said in her -- in her video sounds good. It's preventative, the chemo that she's having. And I think people are enormously sympathetic to her, and to Poor William, whose father of course, has got cancer. So, he's between the two of them. COOPER: Yes. COLES: And I think people long for William and Kate to take the throne, at some point, too. They are modern. They are younger. She's funny. She so obviously enjoys being Princess of Wales. She's very good at it. She doesn't complain. She turns up. She joins in. People really like her. And so, I think people will be rooting for her. COOPER: Dr. Emanuel, just finally, this is an opportunity, for when Prince -- when King Charles, his diagnosis led to many people going for prostate exams. We've mentioned colorectal cancer. And again, we don't know what Kate has. But I learned today that the screening guidelines for that were lowered to age 45. What kind of screening -- what actually is that screening? I'm not even sure if I've done that. What do people do, for screening of that? EMANUEL: So, colorectal cancer, the screening guidelines have declined, because we have more cases. And the typical screening is a colonoscopy, where you prepare. COOPER: OK. EMANUEL: You basically clean out your bowel. And then, they put a small camera in to look and to make sure there's no cancer. I should say one other point. If there is a positive light? We have seen the number of cases among young people, particularly young women, as I mentioned, going up. But we've seen the amount of mortality going down, because we have better tests, better surgeries and better, in particular, chemotherapies. And I think that is the best evidence that we've -- that we can marshal, at this point, again, without knowing the diagnosis, et cetera. Just in general, the mortality rate, from cancer has gone down. So while, as noted, it still strikes fear, in people's heart, and especially for a 42-year-old woman with three kids, the prognosis of cancer, in general, among younger people, has been getting better and better. COOPER: Dr. Zeke Emanuel, appreciate it. Joanna Coles, as well, thank you very much. Today's announcement came just days after a scandal ballooned at the hospital, where she had her surgery. For more on that, here's CNN's Anna Stewart. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) ANNA STEWART, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's a private hospital, with a feel of a luxury hotel, with a number of high-profile patients, including Royals. But this week, the hospital's reputation is on the line. STEWART (on camera): Up to three hospital staff members are being investigated, for trying to illegally access the Princess' private medical records. It's unclear whether the attempt was successful. The British government has made clear, the breach is serious, it could even be criminal. STEWART (voice-over): The U.K.'s data watchdog told CNN it's investigating. And The London Clinic is taking disciplinary steps. The hospital's Chief Executive was ambiguous on the report, saying only that "in the case of any breach, all appropriate investigatory, regulatory and disciplinary steps will be taken." At Christmas, Kate was the Belle of the Ball. But this was her last public appearance. A statement came from Kensington Palace, in January. "Her Royal Highness The Princess of Wales was admitted to hospital yesterday for planned abdominal surgery," adding "she is unlikely to return to public duties until after Easter." In the weeks that followed, speculation mounted. And it didn't dissipate, when the Prince and Princess of Wales posted this photo, on social media, which was found to be altered. An apology from the Princess followed. But the speculation didn't end. Now, the world has more information. And the message from the Princess of Wales is clear. PRINCESS CATHERINE: We hope that you will understand that, as a family, we now need some time, space and privacy while I complete my treatment. STEWART (voice-over): Anna Stewart, CNN, London. (END VIDEOTAPE) COOPER: Well, Catherine talked about talking to her children, about her diagnosis. That's a difficult conversation to have, to say the least, with children. Coming up next, we'll talk to a child psychiatrist, about parents and children having those kinds of difficult conversations, about cancer, and getting through it as a family. Also, the latest from Russia, on the mass shooting, outside Moscow, that has now taken at least 60 lives. [21:15:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK) COOPER: Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, sent well wishes to their sister-in-law, saying simply, "We wish health and healing for Kate and the family, and hope they are able to do so privately and in peace." They live at a distance, both physically and emotionally, from William and Catherine. But both Harry, his brother, and the entire royal family still share the same reticence when it comes to sharing their private lives, and showing emotion, which can only complicate what must be so difficult, if not terrifying, for any parent, telling your young children that mom or dad has a serious illness. I spoke with Prince Harry for a piece I did for "60 Minutes," and he talked about the experience of his father, then-Prince Charles, delivering the worst news imaginable, to young Prince Harry, that his mom, Princess Diana, had died. [21:20:00] (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) COOPER (on camera): In the book you write, "He says, 'They tried, darling boy. I'm afraid she didn't make it.' These phrases remain in my mind like darts on a board," you say. Did-- did you cry? PRINCE HARRY, DUKE OF SUSSEX, MEMBER OF THE BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY: No. No. Never shed a single tear at that point. I was in shock, you know? 12-years-old, sort of 7:00-- 7:30 in the morning, early. Your father comes in, sits on your bed, puts his hand on your knee and tells you, there's been an accident. I -- I couldn't believe. COOPER (on camera): And you write in the book that, "Pa didn't hug me. He wasn't great at showing emotions under normal circumstances. But his hand did fall once more on my knee and he said, 'It's going to be OK.'" But after that, nothing was OK for a long time. PRINCE HARRY: No nothing -- nothing was OK. COOPER (voice-over): Harry says his memories of the next few days are fragmented. But he does remember this: greeting mourners outside Kensington Palace in London the day before his mother's funeral. COOPER (on camera): When you see those videos now, what do you think? PRINCE HARRY: I think it's bizarre, because I see William and me smiling. I remember the guilt that I felt. COOPER (on camera): Guilt about? PRINCE HARRY: The fact that the people that we were meeting were showing more emotion than we were showing, maybe more emotion than we even felt. COOPER (on camera): They were crying, but you weren't. PRINCE HARRY: There was a lot of tears. I talk about how wet people's hands were. I couldn't understand it at first. COOPER (on camera): Their hands were wet from crying? PRINCE HARRY: Their hands were wet from wiping their own tears away. I do remember one of the strangest parts to it was taking flowers from people and then placing those flowers with the rest of them. As if I was some sort of middle person for their grief. And that really stood out for me. Once my mother's coffin actually went into the ground, that was the first time that I actually cried. Yes. There was never another time. (END VIDEOTAPE) COOPER: Joining us now is Dr. Judith Joseph. She's Clinical Assistant Professor of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry at NYU Langone Medical Center, here in New York. Thank you so much for being with us. First of all, to the way so many kids have grown up, and Prince Harry and Charles -- and William are examples of that, not crying, not being able to talk about stuff? That has ripple effects for their entire lives. Having grown up with that, they -- Prince William and Catherine clearly seem very focused on trying to communicate this latest information, to their children, in the proper way. That's a really hard thing to do. DR. JUDITH JOSEPH, PSYCHIATRIST, CLINICAL ASSISTANT PROFESSOR OF CHILD & ADOLESCENT PSYCHIATRY, NYU LANGONE MEDICAL CENTER: It's really difficult. And you're absolutely right, Anderson. If you don't process that trauma and that grief, it shows up later in life. And it's possible that Prince William doesn't want his children to go through the same type of trauma he did. Containing the information, making sure that they have a controlled way of delivering it to the children, very different than the way that he had his news delivered to him when he was younger. COOPER: Catherine talked about wanting to basically not reveal this, until the kids were out of school. That seems to make a lot of sense, because not just that they'll be around them, so they can spend time, to concentrate their time together. But also said other kids aren't saying stuff to them. JOSEPH: Children have the wildest imaginations. And if you don't anticipate that, you can't control the information. There are kids that could talk about their experiences with cancer. They can say dreadful things. So, I think it's appropriate. Also, you have to remember, during breaks, you're with your parents, all the time. You're in a safe environment. You have access to them. So, if you act out, if you regress, you know that you have someone there to nurture you. Whereas when you're in school, anything could happen. You can act out. Then that's further shame, further trauma for the child. So, it's a safe environment, it's controlled when they have the news delivered during break. COOPER: How honest should a parent be, with a child, about -- my dad died, when I was 10-years-old. I knew he was in the hospital, with heart disease, and died of heart attack. But I had no idea how serious it was, and kids weren't allowed to visit the hospitals back then. JOSEPH: I'm sorry for your loss. And you know that grief is something that's very complicated. And Kate, she's someone, who champions mental health in children. COOPER: Yes. JOSEPH: So, I'm sure she was very thoughtful in her process. It's important to be very clear with children, use language that's plain, not complicated, because it's scary, if it's too complex. Be honest, when children know that you're lying, when you're holding things back. COOPER: Kids know you're lying? JOSEPH: They know. They imagine the worse. COOPER: They just know what you're saying (ph). JOSEPH: And you want to be honest with them. Because if they imagine that you're holding something back, they're going to think that it's dreadful news, that something is really bad, that's going to happen. COOPER: You don't want -- I mean, there's honesty. And then, there's like brutal honesty. You don't want to be scary-honest. JOSEPH: That's true. You want to make sure that you give the information, small amounts of content. So imagine, this is a family that had a loss of a great grandfather, a loss of a great grandmother. Then you have the news of your grandpa having cancer, and now possibly your mother having a severe illness. That's a lot of information for these small children. So, it's smart to spread out that bad news, and to use simple language. You don't want to sugarcoat it, because they can tell when you're not telling the truth. [21:25:00] COOPER: Also, delivering information to -- they have kids, who are 10, eight and five. Delivering information to a 10-year-old is obviously different to a 5-year-old. JOSEPH: Very different. And Kate is someone, who champions mental health in children. So, she probably had some advisers around this. But it's true. You can't give the same information to someone who's younger. You have to be very careful with the language that you use, depending on their developmental stage. And also, when you deliver the news, you want to make sure that you're not panicked, you're not catastrophizing, because children mirror you. If you panic, they're going to panic. COOPER: And is it one conversation? Or is it multiple conversations over time? JOSEPH: That's a really good question. It's multiple conversations, over time. Give it to them, in small doses. Make sure they're in a safe space. You don't want to be in a distracting environment, an environment where you don't have control. Have transitional objects, like a teddy bear, a blankie, things that they can hold on to. Make sure that you can anticipate how they're going to react. Have your responses planned. Make sure that all caregivers have the same canned response. They're going to ask hard things. They're going to ask things like, are you going to die, you know, are we going to be able to visit you? Have a canned response for parents. COOPER: What does a 5-year-old know about death compared to a 8-year- old, or a 10-year-old? JOSEPH: You'd be surprised. Children have access to information in this day and age. They watch cartoons. In Disney movies, people die. So, they have an understanding. COOPER: Right. JOSEPH: You want to use clear language. So, things like passed away? That's not very clear. That's abstract. You want to be concrete, you know, the person died. Or, things like sickness, instead of under the weather. Be very clear in your language with them. They know more than you think they do. COOPER: That's really fascinating. Dr. Judith Joseph, thank you so much. JOSEPH: Thank you for having me. COOPER: Appreciate it. And thanks for being here. Coming up next, the latest on the terror attack that has left at least 60 people dead, a 100 wounded near Moscow, that, and the warning signs, raised weeks before the attack, by the United States and others. [21:30:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK) COOPER: More breaking news. We're learning new details, about the attack, at a Moscow area concert venue complex that has now left at least 60 people dead, and wounded more than 100. The Russian Health Minister has called it the deadliest terror attack in Russia in decades. We just want to take a moment to show you some of the horror that people faced during the attack. What you're about to see is disturbing. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) (VIDEO - NEW VIDEO OF DEADLY ATTACK ON CONCERT HALL NEAR MOSCOW) (END VIDEO CLIP) COOPER: There're far more disturbing videos. We're not going to show those to you. That's just some of what unfolded inside the concert hall, as the assailants opened fire. ISIS has claimed responsibility for the attack. Joining us now with the latest is CNN's Fred Pleitgen. So, walk us through what we now know, about what happened inside that concert hall, Fred. FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hi there, Anderson. We know that this happened around 6 PM Moscow time, that these assailants apparently already took out their guns, as they were in the parking lot, to the Crocus City Hall, which is in the town of Krasnogorsk, which is actually a suburb of Moscow. I've been there on many occasions in the past. It's a gigantic complex. They then went in, and from what we hear from eyewitnesses, and from the authorities now, they immediately opened fire, on pretty much every one that they saw, at point-blank. And that's where a lot of those videos that we were just showing, obviously originated from. And you can just see the panic there, among the people, who were inside that venue, some of them trying to get away, others trying to hide. There were some scenes of people breaking the glass of the windows, the window facade of that place, to try and get out. At some point, apparently, the assailants also set fire to the building. We saw that large plume of smoke, and the flames coming out, the Russian authorities having to bring in choppers to try and get that blaze under control. So, at this point, while we're speaking about it, at least 60 people, who have been killed and more than 140 have been wounded. The Russian authorities do believe that that number could rise, as they are still trying to get to terms with what happened there, Anderson. COOPER: And are the suspects still at large? PLEITGEN: Yes, that's one of the other big things out there, is that the Russians so far have not said that they were able to either apprehend or neutralize, as they usually say, these suspects. In fact, the Russians are saying they do believe that the suspects are still at large, and that they managed to get away, they believe, or tried to get away in a small white Renault car. Now, of course, we know that ISIS has claimed responsibility for this attack. The Russians have actually not confirmed that they also believe that that is the case. We know that the U.S. says that they have -- that they believe that they have details that also seems to confirm that. But, at this point in time, the Russians are treating this as an ongoing situation, and with the suspects still at large, Anderson. COOPER: And, I mean, it's remarkable that the U.S. Embassy put out a warning, to people about this. Vladimir Putin, has he said anything yet about this, publicly? PLEITGEN: Well, Vladimir Putin as far as the warning was concerned that the U.S. Embassy put out, on March 7th, he said that he believed that that was U.S. propaganda, U.S. scare-mongering, U.S. blackmail against the Russian Federation. But it's interesting that tonight, we have not seen Vladimir Putin, publicly saying anything yet. Of course, Vladimir Putin is someone, who people are saying brought security, back to the Russian Federation, someone who stands for law and order, and has in the past. But so far, at least publicly, he's been silent. The only things that we have heard, is from Vladimir Putin's spokesman, who came out and said that the President is being updated on everything that's going on. Allegedly, he also spoke to the Governor of the Moscow region, so the area outside of Moscow. And there's other Russian officials who say that he sent his well wishes or his best wishes to the people who have been wounded. [21:35:00] But so far publicly, we have not heard from Vladimir Putin, yet, Anderson. COOPER: All right, Fred Pleitgen, thank you very much. For more on that warning, the warning that we talked about is, here's CNN Pentagon Correspondent, Oren Liebermann. So, ISIS claimed responsibility for the attack. Have U.S. intelligence officials responded to that claim? OREN LIEBERMANN, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: They haven't, or at least we haven't heard a direct corroboration of that, meaning we have not heard U.S. officials tell us, yes, we have intelligence that absolutely says it was ISIS that was responsible for this attack. But crucially, U.S. officials say they have no reason to doubt the claim, from ISIS, that they were responsible for the attack. And that, in and of itself, is an important piece of information, as the U.S. tries to figure out what happened here, just as Russia tries to figure out what happened here, with their own criminal investigation. The U.S., of course, watching this, from afar, and looking at the pieces of information, they do have. But at least, at this point, the U.S. has no reason to doubt the claim, from ISIS, that they indeed, did carry out this attack, Anderson. COOPER: And CNN has learned that the U.S. intelligence community actually warned Russia, about a potential attack inside the country. That sounds extraordinary. LIEBERMANN: It is, absolutely so. And it's also a clear indication that the U.S. has been watching this space. According to two U.S. sources, familiar with the intelligence, the U.S. says they were picking up a pretty steady stream of information, since back in November, that ISIS, specifically ISIS-K, or ISIS- Khorasan, which is much more active in Afghanistan, was trying to carry out attacks in Russia, trying to create a mass casualty incident. Some of that intelligence was fairly specific, according to one source, familiar with that intelligence, to the point where the U.S., under the duty to warn, in fact warned their Russian counterparts, or at least parts of the Russian government, that there was a potential for ISIS-K to try to carry out an attack. Now, we haven't been able to connect those dots definitively, and to say it was in fact, that stream of intelligence that led to this attack. But it paints a picture of first, the U.S. watching this space, and sets up, at least a credible possibility of it -- of it was in fact ISIS behind this attack here, as we wait for more information, from the U.S. and, of course, from Russia itself, in regards to the latest information on this attack. COOPER: And are Americans, inside Russia, hearing more from the State Department, tonight? LIEBERMANN: So, first, there is of course, the general warning, from the U.S. Embassy in Moscow for American citizens to beware. But we also know that earlier this month, about two weeks ago, on March 7th, the U.S. put out its own warning of the possibility of an attack, warning American citizens to stay away from large gatherings. In fact, look at this statement, from that embassy outreach, in earlier March. "The Embassy is monitoring reports that extremists have imminent plans to target large gatherings in Moscow, to include concerts, and U.S. citizens should be advised to avoid large gatherings over the next 48 hours." The caveat there, of course, is that we don't know for certain that this bit of intelligence is the attack that we're looking at now. But you also can't ignore the similarities here. Large concerts, the U.S. Embassy warned about, and that's, of course, what was attacked, here. The difference is that was a 48-hour warning that expired, on March 9th. Here, this is two weeks later. But still, the similarities between the warning, and what we're seeing play out, they are certainly great indeed. COOPER: Yes. Oren Liebermann, thank you. I'm joined now by two CNN National Security Analysts, Steve Hall and Peter Bergen. Steve's also former CIA Chief of Russia Operations. So Steve, I mean, beyond U.S. intelligence private warnings, to Russian officials, the U.S. Embassy publicly warning Americans, a few weeks ago, that we just saw, as extremists have imminent plans, to target large gatherings, in Moscow, that Putin basically called provocative and outright blackmail. It's pretty remarkable, is it not? STEVE HALL, FORMER CIA CHIEF OF RUSSIA OPERATIONS, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: Yes, he basically pooh-poohed it. That's one of the really remarkable things. And I can tell you, one of the things that Vladimir Putin is most concerned with, tonight, doesn't have anything to do with the dead, doesn't have anything to do with Russian families grieving anything. It has to do with the following. There's a social contract between the Russian people and Putin. And it goes like this. Russians give up some freedoms, in order to get the stability and security of a police state. Well, the Russians have been watching, as the Putin administration has been basically systematically getting rid of all political opposition. But hundreds of -- hundreds of forces, Russian forces, security forces doing that. And yet, they can't be kept safe, when they try to go to a concert in Moscow. If I were a Russian, I think Putin is thinking this, I would be saying, what is the FSB, what are the security services doing? Why are they focusing on these people in prisons, and not keeping the general population safe? That's got to be a concern for Vladimir Putin, this evening. COOPER: Peter, ISIS-K has claimed responsibility for this attack. I know, early on, you were skeptical, on whether they are the ones truly responsible. Do you still feel that way? And if it is, then what does that tell you, about their capabilities? PETER BERGEN, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST, AUTHOR, "THE RISE AND FALL OF OSAMA BIN LADEN": Well, it would suggest that they're back. [21:40:00] I mean, the reason I was a little skeptical, initially, of this claim, and we still don't have direct evidence that it's true, is ISIS has taken tremendous beating, as you know, Anderson, over the years. I mean, they lost their geographical caliphate in Syria and Iraq. They used to be able to train people for attacks in Paris, in 2015, that killed 130 people, including Americans attending a concert. Once they lost their geographical caliphate, they lost their ability to train people. And it's sort of devolved into local affiliates, like ISIS-K, in Afghanistan and some in Africa. But they send it -- seems to have refocused on local concerns. Now, where that changed was in January, where ISIS-K attacked a memorial service, for an Iranian general, Qasem Soleimani, killing almost 100 people. And that showed that their ability to kind of reach out, outside of Afghanistan. Now, reaching out into Russia? That's close -- it's further away than Iran is from Afghanistan. So, it would show kind of a, unfortunately, a kind of resurgence of their -- of their abilities. But I will say one other thing, Anderson. Very interesting. On March 7th, Russian state television reported that the Russian intelligence agency, FSB, foiled a plan to commit a terrorist act against a synagogue in Moscow. That's according to Russian state television. So, the fact that the Russians are now sort of -- sort of backtracking and saying, well, you know, all the things they are saying, is sort of interesting. And that's exactly the same day that the U.S. Embassy warned about extremists having plans, to attack large gatherings, in Moscow. So, it's not just the Americans, who knew that something was going on, in Moscow. The Russians also did. COOPER: Steve, what do you make of this ISIS claiming responsibility? And if it was them, what does it tell you not only about them, but about Russia's inability to prevent it? HALL: Yes, that latter thing is a really serious issue. I mean, again, this is -- the amount of resources that Vladimir Putin, and the Kremlin, put into their security services, to do a number of different things, not only monitor dissidents, but also, hopefully, first and foremost, try to protect its own population against these types of attacks. Now, this is not the first attack that's happened over the years. There have been lots of -- a number of different Islamic extremist groups that have tried to attack in Moscow, some with success and some with less success. But one thing is -- one thing seems to me to be clear. Although we can't make a point-to-point connection between the 7th March embassy warning, and what happened today, it's clear that American intelligence had information that there was going to be an attack. The March 7 thing that came out of the embassy was a public, it's anybody could access that, you, me, anybody inside of Russia, if they could have access on the internet. Certainly, the terrorists could have had that. If they had planned an attack, in that 48-hour period, after 7th March, they could have seen the embassy report, and said, well, we need to regroup, because the FSB is going to be ready for us. It's still early. We don't know all the details. But what is clear is that the U.S. had good information on this and passed it to the Russian government. And Putin simply said, it's not that critical. COOPER: Peter, when you look at that -- you look at this, these images now, all those blue flashing lights, it looks like an enormous police response. If these perpetrators were able to get away? That's really stunning. I mean, the idea that you can attack, a huge concert venue, not be stopped? I don't know -- we don't know if there was an exchange of gunfire with anybody. But we have no indication that there was police officers, on scene, who were rushing these people, as would likely happen in the United States. Unless, of course, you were a police officer, in Uvalde, Texas. BERGEN: Yes. And, I mean, that's one of the reasons that I initially, when I saw this, I was a little skeptical, because typically, if you're an ISIS fighter, you don't care about getting killed, at the scene of the crime. You don't -- you're not looking for a getaway. You're looking to martyr yourself. So, in this case, it looks like the people did get away, according to the Russians. And that isn't sort of typical for an ISIS type attack. So however, I mean, the fact that all the, you know, there was -- it's not just the Americans, who had intelligence in the system, about ISIS presence in Moscow. It turns out that the Russians did too. Otherwise, why would Russian state television report on March 7th, about a plan, to attack a Moscow synagogue by ISIS? So, I don't know. I mean, it isn't absolutely typical of their M.O. But certainly, ISIS has attacked concert venues in the past. In Paris, you recall, in 2015, they killed 130 people, most -- many of them were attending a concert. And obviously, this could well be, you know, it could be just what, as this group says. I'm still looking for evidence. And hopefully, we'll identify that, you know, that who these people are, relatively quickly. Are they Tajiks, are they Chechens, if they're part of ISIS? Did they train in Afghanistan? I mean, that's one of the -- a very big question here. Obviously, that would be very embarrassing, for the Biden administration, if it turned out that ISIS-K has sort of regrouped, to the extent, where they can reach out to other countries, carry out major attacks, at a time when they're responsible, for the withdrawal of U.S. troops, from Afghanistan. [21:45:00] COOPER: Yes. Peter Bergen, Steve Hall, thank you. Next, breaking news, from Capitol Hill, on the growing likelihood of a government shutdown. In the middle of the funding fight, another Republican House Speaker's job possibly in jeopardy, as a member of his own divided party files a motion to oust him. Details on that ahead. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) COOPER: Breaking news, tonight, from Capitol Hill. Just hours ahead of a shutdown deadline, the House has sent a funding package to the Senate. But they still don't have a vote scheduled, which means we could be headed for a government shutdown. CNN Capitol Hill Reporter, Melanie Zanona, joins us now, with the latest. So, what are you hearing on the Hill? And are we about to have a shutdown? [21:50:00] MELANIE ZANONA, CNN CAPITOL HILL REPORTER: Yes, Anderson, at this very moment, it does look like Congress is on track, to stumble into a government shutdown. Now, it would be a partial government shutdown, because six government agencies have already be funded -- been funded. And it also would only be temporary, because if they can't come to an agreement, on voting tonight, on the package, they would just vote on Sunday. So, it would be a minimal impact of a shutdown. But it is a shutdown, nonetheless. And that is because this has been such a tortured process to get here. Remember, they were supposed to have funded the government, back in October 1st of last year, this, for the fiscal year that they are currently in. And instead, they kicked the can down the road, past stopgap bill after stopgap bill, waited until the last minute, to pass this massive bill. And that's where we find ourselves, tonight. At issue is some Republicans are seeking votes, on various amendments, some related to border and immigration. Some Democrats are pushing back on that. So, they're still scrambling to try to find an agreement, before that midnight deadline. But at this point, looking increasingly unlikely, like that is going to happen, Anderson COOPER: And so, Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene filed a motion to vacate Speaker Johnson, over all of this. Is his job actually in jeopardy? ZANONA: Well, it certainly is on thin ice. Anger had been brewing all week, over this bipartisan deal that Johnson cut, with Democrats and the White House. Last night, Marjorie Taylor Greene said she was done with the Speaker. And this morning, she did file that motion to vacate the Speaker's chair. But she did not take a critical step, to force a floor vote, on that resolution. So, it's a slightly different scenario than when Matt Gaetz made his move, to oust former Speaker Kevin McCarthy. But let's take a little bit of a listen to what Marjorie Taylor Greene had to say. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) REP. MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE (R-GA): I filed the motion to vacate, today. But it's more of a warning and a pink slip. I respect our Conference. I paid all my dues to my Conference. I'm a member in good standing. And I do not wish to inflict pain on our Conference, and to throw the -- throw the House in chaos. (END VIDEO CLIP) ZANONA: So, Greene is essentially preserving this as a threat, and keeping it in her back pocket, at least for now. For Johnson's part, he says he's not worried about losing his job. But this is something he is going to have to contend with. He can't just ignore this, as a threat, especially given the razor-thin margin in the House, and especially given what happened to his predecessor, Kevin McCarthy. COOPER: And how'd this land with the rest of the Republican caucus? ZANONA: Well, it looks like there's not a very big parade or any parade following behind Marjorie Taylor Greene, at least at this moment, even though she does insist that she has some colleagues, who are behind her. But many Republicans that I talked to said, this is crazy. This is stupid. They are still reeling from that chaotic Speaker drama, back in October. And meanwhile, some Democrats are signaling that they'd be willing to step in, and save Mike Johnson, if he puts a Ukraine funding package on the floor. So, it does not appear like there's an appetite, in either party, to plunge the House into chaos, once again. But it is an issue that everyone is going to have to keep an eye on, especially Mike Johnson, as he deals with potentially divisive issue of Ukraine funding, in the coming weeks. Anderson. COOPER: Melanie Zanona, thanks very much. Coming up next, we return to the surprise announcement today, from the Princess of Wales, on her cancer diagnosis, and look at the long history of health battles, for the British Royal Family, and the secrecy that has often surrounded them. [21:55:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK) COOPER: More now, on the Princess of Wales, who revealed her cancer diagnosis, today, after more than two months of seclusion. There's a lot still the public doesn't know, which is not unusual. CNN's Tom Foreman looks at the history of medical secrecy, in the British Royal Family. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Even when Queen Elizabeth the Second was in the final year of her life, slowing down, using a cane, canceling engagements, the Palace said she was fine. And the story of solid health held on, even after a tabloid revealed she had been in the hospital. KATE WILLIAMS, CNN HISTORIAN & ROYAL EXPERT: But I think that as soon as the winter is over, she will be keen, to get back on her feet, back out there, meeting people. It's just whether or not the doctors are going to agree with it. FOREMAN (voice-over): Like so much around the Royals, secrecy about health is a deep-seated tradition. The Castle was cagey about Prince Philip's condition, the year he died. Rumors of eating disorders swirled around Princess Diana long before she confirmed them. DIANA, PRINCESS OF WALES: I have it, on very good authority, that the quest for perfection our society demands can leave the individual gasping for breath. FOREMAN (voice-over): Meghan Markle says her mental health was so taxed, by life in the Palace, she considered suicide. But she talked to Oprah about it only on her way out. MEGHAN, DUCHESS OF SUSSEX, MEMBER OF THE BRITISH ROYAL FAMILY: I went to the institution, and I said that I needed to go somewhere to get help. And I was told that I couldn't, that it wouldn't be good for the institution. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I wish you the best of health, father. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Wish me. Wish me. FOREMAN (voice-over): Secrecy around much older cases, such as the growing madness of King George in the 1700s was so strict, medical experts and movie-makers still speculate about the cause. But even when the Royals had lost almost all their practical power, maladies of the monarchs remained largely private, such as King George the Sixth, battled with stuttering and lung cancer. QUEEN CONSORT ELIZABETH, FICTIONAL CHARACTER PLAYED BY HELENA BONHAM CARTER, "THE KING'S SPEECH": I don't have a hubby. We don't pop. And nor do we ever talk about our private lives. You'll appreciate the need for absolute discretion. FOREMAN (voice-over): So, the revelations that King Charles, Princess Kate and Sarah Ferguson are all dealing with cancer are unusual, even if the details remain scarce. (END VIDEOTAPE) [22:00:00] FOREMAN: The sense of secrecy can endure, even after the subject is gone. When Queen Elizabeth passed away, a year and a half ago, at the age of 96, the death certificate listed the cause as merely old age. Anderson. COOPER: Tom Foreman, thanks very much. The news continues. "NEWSNIGHT WITH ABBY PHILLIP" starts now.