WHEN IT COMES TO LOOKING AFTER OUR HEALTH, THERE'S MOVEMBER, BLUE SEPTEMBER AND MEN'S HEALTH WEEK FOR THE BLOKES. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO US, IT TURNS OUT THERE'S NOT A WEEK, OR EVEN A DAY, DEDICATED TO WOMEN'S HEALTH IN AOTEAROA. BUT THAT'S ABOUT TO CHANGE. THROUGHOUT HISTORY, DOCTORS AND SURGEONS HAVE PREDOMINANTLY BEEN MEN. AS HUMANKIND SOUGHT TO SOLVE MEDICAL MYSTERIES, THOSE MEN LOOKED FOR ANSWERS IN ONE GENDER ONLY ` THEIR OWN, STUDYING MALE BIOLOGY AND EXCLUDING WOMEN FROM ALL CLINICAL TRIALS. BUT IN THE 90S, THE TIDE STARTED TO TURN. PERIODS, MENOPAUSE, PREGNANCY HAVE ALL SAT OUTSIDE HEALTH, SEEN AS 'WOMEN'S ISSUES', NOT HEALTH ISSUES. FAST-FORWARD A FEW DECADES, AND NEW ZEALAND'S FIRST EVER WOMEN'S HEALTH WEEK IS KICKING OFF TO ENCOURAGE WOMEN OF ALL AGES TO PRIORITISE THEIR PHYSICAL, MENTAL, AND EMOTIONAL WELLBEING. WELL, HERE NOW IS DR LEE MATHIAS. THANKS FOR JOINING US. WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO HAVE A WOMEN S HEALTH WEEK? I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT WOMEN OFTEN DON'T PUT THEMSELVES FIRST WHEN IT COMES TO LOOKING AFTER THEIR HEALTH. THEY TEND TO LOOK AFTER THAT OF THE REST OF THE FAMILY, AND LET THEIR OWN HEALTH NOT, PERHAPS, HAVE THE ATTENTION THAT IT SHOULD HAVE. SO, IF THEY'RE PUTTING THEIR HEALTH LAST, WHAT'S ONE THING WOMEN CAN DO DURING HEALTH WEEK TO PUT THEMSELVES FIRST? I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THEY HAVE AN ANNUAL HEALTH CHECK. I MEAN, MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE AN ANNUAL HEALTH CHECK, AND WOMEN IN PARTICULAR OFTEN DON'T TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT THEIR HEALTH. AND SO AN ANNUAL HEALTH CHECK WITH A PROFESSIONAL ACTUALLY ALLOWS YOU TO DO THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAY IS PUT THE HEALTH CHECK AROUND YOUR BIRTHDAY, BECAUSE THAT'S A GOOD TIME. IT'S A GOOD, TIMELY REMINDER TO HAVE THINGS CHECKED OUT BY YOUR DOCTOR OR NURSE OR YOUR OTHER HEALTH CARE PROVIDER. AND MANY HEALTH STUDIES AND MEDICAL RESEARCH IS BASED ON MEN, NOT WOMEN. ARE YOU STARTING TO SEE A BIT OF A CHANGE IN THAT? YES, WE ARE, BUT IT'S TAKEN A LONG TIME. AS YOU'VE JUST SAID, TRADITIONALLY, MOST RESEARCH WAS BASED ON WHITE NORTH AMERICAN MEN. AND OF COURSE, THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS TRANSLATE DIRECTLY ACROSS TO WOMEN OF THE SOUTH PACIFIC. SO WE ARE STARTING TO SEE THAT CHANGE. AND WITH MANY COHORTS FOR RESEARCH THESE DAYS, YOU WILL FIND THAT THE CHOICE OF PARTICIPANTS IS RIGHT ACROSS THE AGE RANGE, THE ETHNICITY RANGE. OK, DOCTOR MATHIAS, HELP ME! HOW CAN US MEN SUPPORT WOMEN WITH THEIR HEALTH? WELL, LISTEN. LISTEN, AND DON'T PROVIDE SOLUTIONS. JUST LISTEN. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. THE OTHER THING THAT I'D LIKE MEN TO DO IS MAYBE INSTEAD OF PUTTING ASIDE ONE DAY A YEAR AS A MOTHERS DAY FOR WOMEN, THAT ACTUALLY THEY PUT ASIDE MANY DAYS A YEAR FOR ONE OF THE WOMEN IN THEIR LIVES. THAT'S ONE KEY THING THAT MEN CAN DO. ANOTHER THING, ACTUALLY, IS TO GO WITH WOMEN AS SUPPORT. THEY CAN ALSO, ESPECIALLY NEXT WEEK, WE HAVE ACTUALLY CREATED A WEBSITE PARTICULARLY FOR THE WEEK. AND THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION ON THAT WEBSITE, WHICH IS womenshealthweek.nz. ON THAT WEBSITE, THEY CAN FIND A HUGE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION ABOUT ALL SORTS OF WOMEN'S BUSINESS, WHICH THEY OTHERWISE MIGHT NOT HAVE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT BEFORE. AND YES, IT IS ` IT'S ABOUT PERIODS AND IT'S ABOUT HAVING BABIES AND IT'S ABOUT MENOPAUSE. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY CAN DO TO BE VERY HELPFUL. SO, WOMEN'S HEALTH WEEK ISN'T ASKING FOR MONEY OR FUNDRAISING. IT'S PURELY A HEALTH AND EDUCATION CAMPAIGN, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO AT TEND WE ARE A FULL-SERVICE GENERAL PRACTICE. BUT WE PROVIDE A LOT OF HEALTH PROMOTION SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE RESOURCES AND THEY KNOW WHERE TO GO FOR` YOU KNOW, TO HELP THEMSELVES. IN THIS CASE, IT'S womenshealthweek.nz, AND AS I SAID BEFORE, THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THERE FOR EVERYBODY TO ACCESS. WELL, THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, DR LEE MATHIAS. GREAT TO TALK TO YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US ON. CAPTIONS BY JASON CONRAN, KATE MCCULLOUGH AND FAITH HAMBLYN. CAPTIONS WERE MADE WITH THE SUPPORT OF NZ ON AIR. WWW.ABLE.CO.NZ COPYRIGHT ABLE 2024 SOME THINGS THEREFORE ALL OF US TO TAKE ON BOARD. TO THOSE OF US IN THE CITIES, PUBS ARE A PLACE TO DIP INTO ON A FRIDAY NIGHT. BUT IN OUR SMALL TOWNS, THE PUB IS VERY MUCH A SOCIAL INSTITUTION. IN BLACKBALL, ON THE WEST COAST, THERE ARE THREE PUBS. AND APART FROM A FEW OTHER BUILDINGS, THEY PRETTY MUCH ARE THE TOWN. NOW ONE OF THEM IS LOOKING FOR AN HEIR TO THE TRIPLE THRONE. JULIAN LEE REPORTS. (GENTLE COUNTRY MUSIC) BLACKBALL, FORMERLY KNOWN AS JOLIFFETOWN, FORMERLY KNOWN AS MOONLIGHT GULLY, IS A SMALL TOWN OF IMPRESSIVELY DISPROPORTIONATE COMPLEXITY AND COLOUR. MINERS' STRIKES, BIRTHPLACE OF THE LABOUR PARTY, RENEGADES, COMMUNISTS, HIPPIES. BUT THAT'S NOTHING. THE PUBS? WELL, HOLD ON TO YOUR AKUBRA, BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT TO GET MESSY. (CHEERFUL MUSIC) THERE ARE THREE VERY OLD PUBS IN BLACKBALL ` A DELICATE ECOSYSTEM WHICH HOLDS THIS PLACE TOGETHER. IN A TOWN OF JUST 270, THERE'S ONE PUB FOR EVERY 90 CITIZENS, MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD, ALL WELL FREQUENTED ` POTENTIALLY THE HIGHEST PER-CAPITA PUB RATE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. THE BIG THREE ARE AS FOLLOWS ` THE WORKINGMEN'S CLUB, FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE MUTUAL SOCIETY OF ARTS, WHICH, APPROPRIATELY, FUNCTIONS AS THE LOCAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM; ACROSS THE ROAD, THERE'S 'THE PUB FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE BLACKBALL HILTON', FORMERLY KNOWN AS 'THE BLACKBALL HILTON', BEFORE A COPYRIGHT RUN-IN WITH AMERICAN HOTEL GIANT HILTON HOTELS IN THE 1990s. AND THEN THERE'S THE BLACKBALL INN, FORMERLY KNOWN AS 'THE CLUB HOTEL' OR 'THE TOP PUB', AS IT IS LOCATED AT THE TOP END OF THE TOWN. JANE USED TO OWN 'FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE BLACKBALL HILTON'. NOW SHE OWNS THE BLACKBALL INN. I KNOW WHEN I HAD THE HILTON, I OWNED IT WITH A FRIEND, FOR A START. AND WE GOT THE LICENCE THERE ` DIDN'T HAVE A LICENCE BEFORE THAT ` AND THE GUY WHO WAS RUNNING THIS PUB HERE ` THAT'S YEARS AGO ` HE'S STILL ONLY JUST ABLE TO GRIN AT ME. HE WASN'T HAPPY. BECAUSE WE USED TO HAVE A LOT OF BACKPACKERS COME. AND THEY USED TO GO TO THE WORKINGMEN'S CLUB AND COME HERE, DRINK LOTS OF BEER, DRINK LOTS OF PISS, AND THEN THEY'D GO HOME AND PISS OUR BEDS. SO I THOUGHT, 'IF THEY'RE GONNA PISS IN OUR BEDS, 'THEY'RE GONNA DRINK OUR PISS.' SO THAT'S WHY WE GOT A LICENCE. (JULIAN LAUGHS) WHEN JANE AND HUSBAND PAT TOOK OVER THE INN, SHE WANTED TO CHANGE THE NAME. THE LOCALS VETOED HER DECISION, BECAUSE THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT HAPPENS IN BLACKBALL. THE INN? IS THAT WHAT PEOPLE CALL IT HERE? THE INN? YEAH, THE INN. IT'S NOT WHAT I WANTED TO CALL IT. I WANTED TO CALL IT 'THE DOG AND SAUSAGE', AND NO ONE WOULD SUPPORT ME. I LIKE THAT. YES, SO DO I. BUT EVERYONE LAUGHED AT ME, SO IT'S THE BLACKBALL INN. I WOULD'VE BEEN THE SAUSAGE, COS I WAS A BUTCHER. WHAT WERE YOU GONNA BE? (LAUGHS) GOD, YOU'RE A HORRIBLE BASTARD. (LAUGHS) JESUS! MANY YEARS AGO, DURING THE FAMOUS BEER BOYCOTT OF 1947 ` ANOTHER STORY, FOR ANOTHER TIME ` RUMOUR HAS IT THE PUBS HERE WENT TO WAR WITH EACH OTHER. WHEN THE MINES WERE OPEN, ALL THE PUBS WERE DOING WELL WITH THE MINERS. USED TO BE TWO OR THREE MORE PUBS HERE AS WELL, BUT THEY WERE BURNT DOWN. OR THEY GOT BURNT DOWN. (CHUCKLES) SOMETHING HAPPENED` THERE WAS A LOT OF BURNING DOWN OF PUBS AT SOME POINT. BURNING DOWN ANYTHING YOU DON'T AGREE WITH. APPARENTLY THEY CAME TO AN UNEASY TRUCE. MANY LOCALS TO THIS DAY TRY TO SHARE THEIR PATRONAGE EVENLY BETWIXT THE THREE PUBS. ISN'T IT TRUE THAT PEOPLE TRY TO SHARE THEIR CUSTOM BETWEEN THE THREE PUBS? OH THEY DO, OFTEN, YES. I'VE HEARD ITS ALMOST LIKE A WAY TO KEEP THE PEACE, TO TREK BETWEEN THE THREE. WELL, I ALWAYS TRY VERY HARD NOT TO... IF I'VE GOT SOMETHING ON, I MAKE SURE NO ONE ELSE IS DOING ANYTHING THAT NIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S QUITE SILLY TO TRY AND COMPETE. IT MEANS NO ONE GETS ANYTHING MUCH OUT OF ANY NIGHT, THEN. SOMEONE DID HAVE AN AK-47 OUTSIDE ONE NIGHT, DIDN'T THEY? (LAUGHS) WE WON'T GO THERE. IS THAT WHEN YOU WERE HERE? NO, THIS WAS YEARS AGO. BLACKBALL HAS COME A VERY LONG WAY SINCE JANE FIRST CAME TO TOWN. WE DROVE INTO TOWN. I SAID, 'WHAT AN ARSEHOLE OF A PLACE!' ALL THE HOUSES WERE UNPAINTED. THE HILTON WAS DERELICT. AND EVERY HOUSE HAD A BIG COAL HEAP IN FRONT. OVER PAT'S 80 YEARS... BLACKBALL IS LOOKING THE BEST IT'S EVER LOOKED IN MY LIFETIME. BUT NOW JANE AND PAT ARE HAVING THEIR OWN LAST CALL. WHY ARE YOU SELLING? WE JUST WANT TO HAVE A BIT MORE TIME TO OURSELVES. WE'RE GETTING ON. PAT'S 80, AND I'M IN MY 79th YEAR. WHAT'S THE SECRET? WE DON'T KNOW. JUST KEEP WORKING, I SUPPOSE. I WANT TO DO A LOT MORE BIKING, AND I WANT TO KEEP RUNNING, AND WE JUST WANT TO HAVE A LOT OF FAMILY TIME WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME HERE. WOULD YOU STAY IN BLACKBALL? ABSOLUTELY. WE'VE GOT OUR WEE COTTAGE. OLDEST HOUSE IN TOWN ` 1895. BUT WE'VE DONE IT UP TO MAKE IT REALLY COSY. WE'RE PRETTY SURE IT IS. WHAT DO YOU WANT FOR THE PLACE? WE ONLY WANT... WELL, IF YOU BUY THE WHOLE THING, IT'S $550,000. THAT'S WITH THE CAR PARK AND THIS. IF YOU JUST WANT THIS, IT'S $450,000, AND THAT'S $100,000. WHAT IF YOU AREN'T ABLE TO SELL IT? WHAT WILL HAPPEN THEN? WHO KNOWS? WILL YOU HAVE TO CLOSE THIS? WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE IT IF WE DON'T SELL IT. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR BLACKBALL, EITHER. NO, IT WON'T BE. NO, I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK IT NEEDS A COUPLE WHO ARE ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE COAST AND WHO LOVE PEOPLE. IF SOMEONE TAKES OVER HERE, WHAT DO THEY NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE BLACKBALL COMMUNITY? IT'S A BIT DIFFERENT. IT IS. IT'S DIFFERENT. WHAT DO THEY NEED TO KNOW? THEY'LL LEARN VERY QUICKLY. THEY WILL, BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL TELL THEM. THEY'RE IN YOUR FACE, AND IF YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG, THEY'LL TELL YA ` IF YOU'VE MADE A CRAP COFFEE OR SOMETHING. I'VE NOTICED THAT ABOUT BLACKBALL AND PUBS CLOSE TO IT. PEOPLE WILL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THEY THINK, EH? AND THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S HOW LIFE SHOULD BE. AN IDEAL TIME FOR A QUICK-WITTED QUARTERMASTER OF THE QUAFF TO GET IN ON THE NEXT ROUND OF BLACKBALL'S INDUBITABLY INDOMITABLE HISTORY. WHAT A PLACE. NOW, WE ALL KNOW PEOPLE WHO'VE DONE SOMETHING GREAT AND DESERVE A BIT OF RECOGNITION. AND THAT'S WHY WE PARTNER WITH ASB TO BRING YOU GOOD AS GOLD. DO YOU KNOW SOMEONE DOING SELFLESS THINGS FOR OTHERS IN YOUR COMMUNITY? SHE'S REALLY LOOKED AFTER PEOPLE ALL HER LIFE. I DON'T KNOW IF HE KNOWS JUST HOW APPRECIATED HE IS. OR MAYBE THEY'VE HAD A TOUGH TIME AND DESERVE A TREAT. ON BEHALF OF ASB... ...WE'D LOVE TO GIVE YOU $10,000. WELL, WHY NOT NOMINATE THEM FOR OUR ASB GOOD AS GOLD AWARD? UNREAL. GO TO asbgoodasgold.co.nz AND TELL US THEIR STORY. # I'LL BE THERE FOR YOU. # E WHAI AKE NEI ` COMING UP ON SEVEN SHARP ` WHY BEING CALLED 'BRAT' THESE DAYS IS A COMPLIMENT... SORT OF. PLUS, ALL BLACK LEGEND SAM WHITELOCK EXPLAINS WHY THAT PHOTO IS BOTH TRUE AND FALSE. THE DETAILS IN JUST A MOMENT. NAU MAI, HOKI MAI, WELCOME BACK. NICE TO HAVE YOU WITH US. VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS TODAY ANNOUNCED HER RUNNING MATE FOR HER U.S PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN. IT'S A CAMPAIGN THAT'S ALREADY MANAGED TO DRUM UP A LOT OF SUPPORT IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. A KEY REASON FOR THAT LIES WITH GEN Z VOTERS AND A NEW CULTURAL MOVEMENT CALLED 'BRAT'. # YEAH, 360, WHEN YOU'RE IN THE MIRROR, DO YOU LIKE WHAT YOU SEE? IT HAS A COLOUR AND A FONT. BRAT, CO-OPTED BY GEN Z, HAS TAKEN OVER THE INTERNET. SO MUCH SO THAT A RECENT 'BRAT' ENDORSEMENT OF KAMALA HARRIS'S U.S PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN HAS RESULTED IN REMIXED VIDEOS WHICH HAVE CHALKED UP MILLIONS OF TIKTOK VIEWS... DO YOU THINK YOU JUST FELL OUT OF A COCONUT TREE? (LAUGHS) YOU EXIST IN THE CONTEXT... OF ALL IN WHICH YOU LIVE. ...AND A STAGGERING US$200m RAISED IN FUNDS DURING THE FIRST WEEK OF HER CAMPAIGN ALONE. 66% OF THOSE DONATIONS COMING FROM FIRST-TIME DONORS. (CROWD CHANTS) WE CHOOSE FREEDOM. SO HOW CAN A WORD AND A COLOUR CREATE A MOVEMENT THAT COULD INFLUENCE AN ENTIRE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE? AND JOINING US NOW IS MARKETING EXPERT JESS MOLONEY. HI, JESS. JUST FOR THOSE WHO ARE A LITTLE OUTSIDE THIS, WHAT DOES 'BRAT' ACTUALLY MEAN? WELL, 'BRAT' HAS ALWAYS MEANT SOMEONE WHO WAS SPOILT OR ENTITLED. SO UNTIL SORT OF EARLY JUNE THIS YEAR, THAT'S WHAT BRAT MEANT. AND THEN SUDDENLY THE CONVERSATION HAS CHANGED, AND NOW BRAT IS NOT ACTUALLY A THING ` IT'S MORE OF AN ATTITUDE. IT'S A PERSONA. IT'S A WAY OF CULTURE, AND IT'S REALLY BECOME A BIG THING ON THE INTERNET. SO, JESS, WHERE EXACTLY HAS IT COME FROM? SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS EARLIER THIS YEAR IN FEBRUARY, CHARLI XCX, THE MUSIC ARTIST, ANNOUNCED THAT SHE WAS RELEASING A NEW ALBUM, VERY SIMPLY TITLED 'BRAT', AND IT WAS RELEASED WITH THE WORD IN ARIAL FONT, VERY LOW RESOLUTION ON AN ELECTRIC-GREEN COLOURED BACKGROUND, AND VERY QUICKLY THE INTERNET RESPONDED TO THAT AND KIND OF TURNED IT INTO A THING OF ITS OWN. JESS, CAN YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF HOW IT COULD BE USED IN A SENTENCE, SAY, LIKE, 'SACHA IS TOTALLY BRAT.' YES, NO? YEAH. SO THAT` THAT WORKS. THAT WORKS. I THINK THE THING THAT I'VE BEEN SORT OF REMINDING MYSELF HOW TO USE IT IS 'IT'S BRAT', 'YOU'RE BRAT', AND 'THAT'S BRAT'. ALL THREE OF THESE STATEMENTS WORK. (LAUGHS) SO YOU CAN JUST KIND OF CALL SOMETHING BRAT TO ACKNOWLEDGE` IT'S SORT OF A REBELLIOUS, SLIGHTLY HEDONISTIC ATTITUDE. I'M KIND OF THINKING ABOUT IT AS, YOU KNOW, A CULTURAL REFERENCE THAT MIGHT MAKE MORE SENSE TO PEOPLE OF MY OWN GENERATION, BUT THAT KIND OF PARIS HILTON, LINDSAY LOHAN, STUMBLING OUT OF THE CLUB AT 3am IN THE MORNING` THAT JUST` THAT'S BRAT. IT'S THAT '90S VIBE. YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY VERY ME. SO, JESS, TELL US WHO CAN BE BRAT. IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S JUST FOR YOUNG PEOPLE? NO, IT'S NOT JUST FOR YOUNG PEOPLE. ANYONE CAN BE BRAT. I RECENTLY HAD ONE OF THE GEN Z's IN MY TEAM DECLARE THEIR GRANDPARENTS AS BRAT. SO REALLY, IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF` IT'S SORT OF GIVEN TO YOU, YOU KNOW. KIND OF, GOING OUT THERE CALLING YOURSELF BRAT ` YOU'VE GOT TO BE QUITE CONFIDENT IN THAT. BUT IF SOMEONE ELSE DECIDES THAT YOU'RE BRAT, THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD SIGN THAT YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING GOOD. SO HOW DID KAMALA HARRIS COME TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS, AND WILL IT HELP HER BECOME THE NEXT U.S PRESIDENT? WELL, LOOK, THIS IS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHEN SOMEONE DECIDES TO CALL YOU BRAT, WHAT YOU COULD THEN DO WITH IT. SO IT WAS ACTUALLY CHARLI XCX, WHO ORIGINATED THIS KIND OF TREND, WHO DECIDED TO TWEET OUT THAT KAMALA WAS INDEED BRAT, AND THEN SUDDENLY KAMALA'S HQ GOT ON IT. THEY CHANGED THEIR BANNER COVER TO BEING THE ELECTRIC GREEN. THEY STARTED TO USE THE FONT IN THEIR CONTENT, AND THEY'VE REALLY SORT OF RIDDEN THE POPULARITY AROUND THE TERM TO REALLY APPEAL TO A YOUNGER GENERATION OF VOTERS. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING HOW SOMEONE'S, YOU KNOW, ALBUM MARKETING HAS REALLY NOW SORT OF TURNED INTO SOMEONE'S POLITICAL MARKETING. THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, JESS. YOU'VE COMPLETELY CONFUSED HADYN, BUT THAT WAS TRULY ENLIGHTENING. (LAUGHS) SORRY, HADYN. SHE IS NOT SORRY. THE TERM 'LEGEND' GETS THROWN AROUND A LOT THESE DAYS, BUT, IN TERMS OF ALL BLACK LEGENDS, IT'S A GOOD TITLE FOR SAM WHITELOCK. OUR MOST-CAPPED ALL BLACK HAS A NEW BOOK OUT CALLED 'VIEW FROM THE SECOND ROW', AND IS CURRENTLY PLAYING IN FRANCE. BEN HURLEY CAUGHT UP SAM OVER THE SATELLITE. NOW, WHITELOCK PUTS HIS FOOT DOWN. CLOSE ` THERE! THIS YEAR, SAM WHITELOCK ANNOUNCED HE WAS RETIRING FROM RUGBY. HE PLAYED 153 TESTS FOR THE ALL BLACKS, SO HE'S PROBABLY DUE A REST. TWO WORLD CUPS AND SEVEN SUPER RUGBY TITLES. AND SOMEHOW HE'S FOUND TIME TO WRITE A BOOK. IT'S A GREAT READ. MY FIRST QUESTION FOR YOU IS ` WHAT'S HARDER? WINNING TWO WORLD CUPS OR WRITING A BOOK? OH, WRITING A BOOK. MY ENGLISH TEACHERS AT SCHOOL WILL BE VERY, VERY SURPRISED THAT I'VE WRITTEN A BOOK. EARLY IN THE BOOK, THERE'S AN ENTIRE PAGE DEDICATED TO ALL THE INJURIES THAT YOU GOT, SOME OF WHICH I'VE NEVER EVEN HEARD OF. WHAT IS SCRUM TOE? PRETTY MUCH YOU STRAIN OR HURT YOUR LIGAMENTS IN YOUR TOE. SO WHENEVER YOU GO TO, YOU KNOW, GET INTO A SCRUM POSITION OR PUSH OFF YOUR TOE, IT'S, UH, NOT VERY NICE. VERY SIMILAR TO GOUT, IF ANYONE'S HAD GOUT. YOU COME FROM SUCH A RUGBY FAMILY. YOUR GRANDFATHER WAS AN ALL BLACK, YOUR GREAT-UNCLE WAS AN ALL BLACK. YOUR FATHER PLAYED FOR MANAWATU, AND YOUR BROTHERS ALL PLAYED AS WELL. WAS IT KIND OF INEVITABLE YOU WERE GOING TO BE A PROFESSIONAL FOOTY PLAYER? THAT'S THE COOL THING. WE WERE NEVER SAID, HEY, LOOK, THIS IS THE PATH YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE AND THIS IS HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT. IT WAS MORE WE WANTED TO DO IT, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK WE ENJOYED IT SO MUCH, PLAYING. AND I THINK THAT'S WHY LUKE'S STILL PLAYING THERE. LOCKS AREN'T REALLY SUPPOSED TO SCORE TRIES. BUT YOUR FIRST GAME FOR THE ALL BLACKS YOU SCORE TWO. AND IT'S A TRY BY SAM WHITELOCK. LOOKING BACK AT MY DEBUT, IT'S WHAT EVERY KID DREAMS OF ` FIRST TOUCH OF THE BALL, SCORE A TRY. WE HAD A REALLY GOOD WIN, MANAGED TO SCORE ANOTHER ONE LATER. DEFINITELY WAS ONE OF MY BEST TEST MATCHES. AND TO DO THAT FIRST OFF THE BAT IS PRETTY AMAZING. I MEAN, IN THE BOOK YOU SAY` YOU PUT IT DOWN NOT TO HARD WORK OR ANYTHING, BUT YOU PUT IT DOWN TO YOUR LUCKY UNDIES. I ALWAYS USED TO WEAR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PAIRS THAT HAD STRIPS ON IT, AND FOR A WHILE THERE IT'S ALL I KEEP GETTING ASKED IN THE MEDIA. 'OH, YOUR LUCKY UNDIES', 'YOUR LUCKY UNDIES' THIS, AND, UM... SO I THOUGHT I MIGHT AS WELL JUST RUN WITH IT AND CALL THEM MY LUCKY UNDIES. SAM WHITELOCK. LOOK AT HIM GO! LET'S TALK ABOUT TRIES FOR A SECOND. YOU POSSIBLY SCORED THE GREATEST SUPER RUGBY TRY EVER BY A FORD, FOR THE CRUSADERS VERSUS THE REDS. A 60-METRE SOLO EFFORT. CAN YOU TALK US THROUGH THAT ONE? THE PEOPLE DON'T REALISE THAT I ALMOST SNAPPED MY ACHILLES AND ALMOST SNAPPED MY QUAD AT THE SAME TIME. IT WAS RIGHT ON THE CUSP. AND THE WORST THING OF ALL WAS I GOT SUBBED STRAIGHT AFTER. THERE'S AN ICONIC PHOTO THAT I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH. YOU AND FORMER PRIME MINISTER JOHN KEY. IS THAT A TRUE REFLECTION OF THE SIZE DIFFERENCE? I'M GOING TO NOD MY HEAD AND SAY YES AND LEAVE IT THERE. NAH, I DID HIM DIRTY, PRETTY MUCH. SO, THE LONG STORY SHORT IS, IT WAS AFTER THE SEMI-FINAL AND I WAS ABSOLUTELY KNACKERED AFTER PLAYING SOUTH AFRICA. HE WAS SETTING WHERE I GOT CHANGED, AND I KIND OF HAD TO POLITELY TELL HIM TO MOVE OVER, I WANT TO HAVE A SEAT. SO I WENT AND OBVIOUSLY SHOOK HIS HAND. BUT THE PHOTOGRAPHER HAD A FISH-LENS CAMERA, SO ANYTHING CLOSER TO THE CAMERA ` MAKES IT LOOK BIGGER. AND BECAUSE HE WAS HALF STANDING UP, IT MADE HIM LOOK EVEN SHORTER. THE COOL THING IS, THE NEXT WEEK AFTER WE WON, HE WAS SITTING IN THE SAME SEAT AND HE SAW ME COMING FROM ABOUT TEN METRES AWAY. HE STOOD UP AND RAN OVER TO ME AND GOES, 'YOU'RE NOT GETTING ME AGAIN LIKE THAT.' I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF VIEWER QUESTIONS. TONY FROM BLENHEIM HAS ASKED, TWO WORLD CUPS, WHICH WAS THE BETTER AFTER PARTY ` AUCKLAND OR LONDON? I THINK LONDON WAS ACTUALLY, BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAD TO DRAW IT OUT, BECAUSE WE STILL HAD TO FLY BACK TO NEW ZEALAND. SO WE HAD THE RUGBY AWARDS, WE HAD AN EXTRA DAY ON THE PLANE, AND THEN WE HAD THE` THE PARADES AND STUFF. SO I'D SAY LONDON, JUST BECAUSE IT WAS LONGER. GARY FROM WHANGANUI HAS ASKED, WILL YOU COME AND PLAY A FEW HEARTLAND GAMES FOR WHANGANUI LATER THIS YEAR? I'M SURE THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY SOMEWHERE. I'VE HAD A FEW CHARITY OFFERS ALREADY, BUT I'LL JUST HAVE TO SAY NO AT THE MOMENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, SAM WHITELOCK. BEST OF LUCK WITH THE WITH THE BOOK, AND ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT, MAN. CHEERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON. IT'S A BIG SAM WHITELOCK. THAT'S A GREAT FINISH. WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A MOMENT WITH TOMORROW'S PLACE TO BE. (GURGLING MONSTER ON TV) DAD: Hey, hey, guess what? I just got another scam text from the 'power company'... ...saying I need to pay my bill. $156.32. MOM: What Grant?! Final notice... What? Threatening to cut my power... ...think I came down on the last... (ELECTRICITY CUTS DOWN) Oh, is that a fuse, Grant!? JADE: That might be real Dad. Yes it might. VOICEOVER:We're blocking more scams than ever before. One New Zealand, let's get connected. That bit might be real, Dad. THE PLACE TO BE TOMORROW IS TAURANGA, BECAUSE THERE'S A PARTY GOING ON, CELEBRATING VERONICA'S 100th BIRTHDAY. THERE'LL BE CAKE AND BALLOONS, AND PROBABLY MORE THAN JUST A FEW CANDLES TO BLOW OUT. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, VERONICA. HOPE EVERYONE SPOILS YOU ROTTEN. ON THE SHOW TOMORROW, AND NO CONNECTION TO VERONICA TURNING 100 ` BUT WE LOOK AT HOW ALCOHOL AFFECTS YOU AS YOU GET OLDER. THOSE WERE OUR PEOPLE TODAY; THAT WAS SEVEN SHARP TONIGHT. MY DREAM GREEN HOME IS UP NEXT. WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW. PO MARIE. CAPTIONS BY JASON CONRAN, KATE MCCULLOUGH AND FAITH HAMBLYN. CAPTIONS WERE MADE WITH THE SUPPORT OF NZ ON AIR. WWW.ABLE.CO.NZ COPYRIGHT ABLE 2024