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Start your day off right (informed and smiling) as the Breakfast team brings you the all latest in news, weather, sport and entertainment. Start your day the right way with a combination of news, sport and entertainment. Join Jenny-May, Chris, Anna and Daniel for Breakfast.

Primary Title
  • Breakfast
Date Broadcast
  • Tuesday 18 February 2025
Start Time
  • 05 : 58
Finish Time
  • 09 : 00
Duration
  • 182:00
Channel
  • TVNZ 1
Broadcaster
  • Television New Zealand
Programme Description
  • Start your day off right (informed and smiling) as the Breakfast team brings you the all latest in news, weather, sport and entertainment. Start your day the right way with a combination of news, sport and entertainment. Join Jenny-May, Chris, Anna and Daniel for Breakfast.
Classification
  • Not Classified
Owning Collection
  • Chapman Archive
Broadcast Platform
  • Television
Languages
  • English
Captioning Languages
  • English
Captions
Live Broadcast
  • Yes
Rights Statement
  • Made for the University of Auckland's educational use as permitted by the Screenrights Licensing Agreement.
(LAUGHS) IT'S TUESDAY THE 18th OF FEBRUARY. MORENA. THIS IS BREAKFAST. COMING UP ON THE SHOW THIS MORNING ` MORE PROTESTS ARE PLANNED IN THE COOK ISLANDS TODAY, FOLLOWING THE COUNTRY'S CONTROVERSIAL STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP WITH CHINA. THE COOKS' PARLIAMENT IS ALSO SET TO CONVENE TODAY, WITH A MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE FILED AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT. 1 NEWS PACIFIC CORRESPONDENT BARBARA DREAVER IS IN RAROTONGA. WE'LL CROSS TO HER FOR THE VERY LATEST. ALSO AHEAD ` THE BRAIN DRAIN IS GAINING SPEED. A RECORD NUMBER OF KIWIS FLEW THE COUNTRY LAST YEAR, THE MAJORITY HEADING TO AUSTRALIA. IS THE GRASS REALLY GREENER? AND WHAT DO THE DEPARTURES MEAN FOR THE COUNTRY AND THE ECONOMY? OR MORE GOLD? ACTUALLY I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW WHETHER YOU KNOW SOMEBODY WHO HAS CROSSED THE DITCH. SEE IF THE GRASS IS GREENER ` EMAIL US. PLUS ` FOR THOSE STAYING BEHIND, WHEN IS A GOOD TIME TO ASK FOR A PAY RISE? EVERYONE'S DOING IT TOUGH BUT THINGS AREN'T GETTING ANY CHEAPER. SO, WHAT'S THE BEST APPROACH FOR BUTTERING UP THE BOSS FOR A PAY BUMP? WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION SHORTLY. I AM ` I'M A BIT EMBARRASSED TO TELL THE STORY. I DID THIS THING CALLED FAIR SETTING. FEAR SETTING? FEAR SETTING. IT IS KIND OF THE FLIP OF GOAL SETTING. WHAT IS AT STAKE, WHAT COULD YOU POTENTIALLY LOSE IF YOU GO IN AND ASK FOR A PAY RISE AND THEY SAY NO, AND THEY SAY, ACTUALLY, IT IS TIME TO MOVE ON. SO I DID THAT BEFORE I WENT IN TO HAVE MY MEETING, WHICH WAS A WONDERFUL EXERCISE, AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS THE BIGGEST THING THAT COULD HAPPEN AND HOW COULD YOU OFFSET THAT. I DID ALL OF THAT, AND THE OUTCOME WAS WORSE THEN ANYTHING THAT I HAD DONE. THIS IS WHEN YOU ASKED FOR A PAY RISE ONE TIME IN YOUR... THE ONE TIME THAT I ASKED. THAT WAS NOT A RECENT THING, WAS IT? JUST LOOKING OUT FOR YOU, JENNY MAY. IT WASN'T. I HAVE TO PLUCK UP THE COURAGE TO ACTUALLY TELL THIS STORY. FRANCES KIRK HAS A LOT OF GREAT TIPS ON HOW TO ASK FOR A PAY RISE. RIGHT NOW IT'S 6 O'CLOCK. HERE'S YOUR NEWS. FRENCH PRESIDENT EMMANUEL MACRON HAS WRAPPED UP A 20 MINUTE PHONE CALL WITH U.S. COUNTERPART DONALD TRUMP, AS EUROPEAN LEADERS GATHER IN PARIS FOR AN EMERGENCY SUMMIT. THE PARIS MEETINGS ARE EXPECTED TO ADDRESS HOW EUROPE CAN SHORE UP DEFENCES WITHOUT BEING RELIANT ON TRADITIONAL SUPPORT FROM THE UNITED STATES. IT COMES AS RUSSIA AND THE UNITED STATES PREPARE FOR PEACE TALKS IN SAUDI ARABIA, WITH NEITHER UKRAINE NOR EUROPE AT THE TABLE. UK PRIME MINISTER KEIR STARMER HAS ALREADY SAID HE IS READY TO DEPLOY BRITISH PEACEKEEPING TROOPS IN UKRAINE IF NECESSARY. COOK ISLANDS PRIME MINISTER MARK BROWN'S ARRIVED HOME AFTER SIGNING A CONTENTIOUS DEAL WITH CHINA, AND IS EXPECTED TO FACE PROTESTS OUTSIDE PARLIAMENT TODAY AFTER A MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE WAS FILED AGAINST HIM. WINSTON PETERS SAYS HE'LL BE CONSIDERING THE AGREEMENT CAREFULLY ONCE THE FULL DETAILS ARE RELEASED IN THE COMING DAYS, WHILE CHINA'S FOREIGN MINISTRY SPOKESPERSON SAYS PLANS BETWEEN CHINA AND THE COOK ISLANDS SHOULD NOT BE DISRUPTED BY 'A THIRD PARTY'. TAURANGA MAYOR MAHE DRYSDALE'S DEFENDING HIMSELF AGAINST CRITICISM HE'S NOT FULFILLED AN ELECTION PROMISE TO LIVE PERMANENTLY IN THE CITY. DRYSDALE, WHO'S BEEN IN THE ROLE SEVEN MONTHS, TOLD 1 NEWS HE WILL KEEP HIS WORD, AND FINDING HOUSING FOR HIS FAMILY IS THE MAIN ISSUE. LIKE, OBVIOUSLY, UH, THAT WAS` THAT WAS MY INTENTION. UM, AND` AND, YOU KNOW, AS I SAY, I'M NOT GOING TO MOVE MY FAMILY UNTIL WE'VE FOUND A SUITABLE PLACE TO LIVE. UM... AND, YES, I UNDERESTIMATED HOW HARD THAT WOULD BE. DRYSDALE SAYS HIS CURRENT FOCUS IS ON DEVELOPING TAURANGA'S ANNUAL PLAN. THE NRLW WARRIORS ARE SET TO MAKE THE WAIKATO THEIR HOME BASE, WITH THREE OF THEIR FIVE HOME MATCHES SCHEDULED AT HAMILTON'S FMG STADIUM. UP THE WAHS. IT COMES AFTER A RECORD CROWD ATTENDED THE WARRIORS' PRE-SEASON TRIAL MATCH AGAINST THE MELBOURNE STORM ON SATURDAY. THE CLUB IS RETURNING TO THE NRLW AFTER A FIVE YEAR ABSENCE, WITH THEIR SEASON KICKING OFF ON THE 6th OF JULY. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE MARKETS. (FUNKY MUSIC) CHECKING OUT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. IT'S LOOKING LIKE ANOTHER GREY DAY. PARTLY CLOUDY FOR MOST OF YOU WITH SCATTERED RAIN FOR MOST AND ISOLATED SHOWERS IN THE NORTH, TURNING MAINLY FINE ON THE EAST COAST. 27 THE HIGH IN AUCKLAND. 29 IN GISBORNE. STILL WARM. SIMILAR STORY IN THE SOUTH ISLAND. PACK YOUR BROLLY, THOUGH ` RAINY PERIODS FOR MOST OF YOU HERE. THIS WILL EASE TO SHOWERS LATER ON IN CANTERBURY AND MARLBOROUGH. TAKE CARE ` THERE IS AN ORANGE HEAVY RAIN WARNING IN PLACE IN THE RANGES OF THE TASMAN DISTRICT NORTHWEST OF MOTUEKA UNTIL 8am TODAY LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE IS MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING WITH OUR TEAM OF REPORTERS AROUND THE COUNTRY. LET'S START IN WELLINGTON WITH REPORTER JAMES FLEURY. JAMES, LARGE SECTIONS OF A NEARBY REGIONAL PARK ARE TO BE SHUT OFF FROM THE PUBLIC DUE TO EXTREME FIRE RISK. MORENA, JENNY MAY. EVEN THOUGH WELLINGTON'S SUMMER HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY COOLER ON RECORD AND ALSO MORE OVERCAST, IT HAS STILL BEEN EXTREMELY DRY. THIS HAS LED TO GREATER WELLINGTON TO ANNOUNCE THAT IT IS GOING TO BE CLOSING TWO SIGNIFICANT AREAS OF EAST HARBOUR REGIONAL PARK FROM THE PUBLIC. BEARING HEAD WILL BE SHUT OFF COMPLETELY FROM 1 PM TO 9 PM DAILY UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. THIS IS WHEN THE FIRE RISK IS MOST EXTREME, BUT THERE WILL BE SOME WALKS ` THE EAST RIDGE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY SHUT OFF UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE ` THERE WILL BE NO VISITING TIMES BECAUSE OF THAT RED FIRE RISK. BECAUSE OF THE GEOGRAPHY OF THIS LOCATION AND IT BEING EXTREMELY HARD TO GET TO FOR FIRE CREWS, PEOPLE ARE BEING URGED TO ENSURE THEY HAVE EXIT ROUTES THAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO DO ANY WALKS OR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES IN THESE AREAS DURING THE OPENING TIMES. BUT PEOPLE ARE BEING URGED TO HIT ONLINE BEFORE THEY GO ON ANY TRACKS TO ENSURE THEY ARE OPEN AND ALSO BE AWARE OF THE FIRE RISKS WHEN THEY HEAD OUT THERE AND LET PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE. GOOD ADVICE. THANKS, JAMES. THERE ARE REPORTS THE FOUNDER OF FAILED PROPERTY GROUP 'DU VAL', KENYON CLARKE, WAS HANDCUFFED OUTSIDE HIS HOME IN AUCKLAND'S REMUERA. LUCY BENDELL JOINS US. WHAT MORE DO WE KNOW, LUCY? GOOD MORNING, JENNY MAY. POLICE CONFIRMED THEY DID RESPOND TO AN INCIDENT ON VICTORIA AVENUE IN REMUERA YESTERDAY AFTERNOON. IT WAS A DISORDER INCIDENT INVOLVING TWO PARTIES, HOWEVER NO ONE WAS INJURED IN THIS INCIDENT. THEY DO SAY THAT ONE PERSON WAS CHARGED, SORRY, TAKEN INTO CUSTODY, FOR ALLEGED ROBBERY, BUT THEY WERE LATER RELEASED WITHOUT CHARGE. KENNY CLARKE IS THE FOUNDER OF DU VAL, ONE OF NEW ZEALAND'S BIGGEST PROPERTY GROUPS THAT WAS PLACED INTO STATUTORY MANAGEMENT LAST YEAR BY THE GOVERNMENT. HE HAS A BIG PRESENCE ON INSTAGRAM THAT SHE HAS ALMOST 100,000 FOLLOWERS. HE TOOK TO THE PLATFORM YESTERDAY TO CONFIRM HE WAS DETAINED OUTSIDE HIS PROPERTY YESTERDAY, SAYING AN ALLEGED FAMILY STALKER TRIED TO RUN HIM OVER. I TURN AROUND, THERE MUST HAVE BEEN ABOUT 15 COPS, POLICE HELICOPTER, DOGS, ARMED OFFENDERS. I HAD A TASER POINTED AT ME. HE DOES SAY HE WAS HANDCUFFED BY POLICE, WHICH EXPLAINS THOSE IMAGES CIRCLING AROUND SOCIAL MEDIA, AS HE WAS ESCORTED FROM HIS PROPERTY BY POLICE. HE DOES SAY THERE WAS A CONVERSATION IN THE POLICE VEHICLE ABOUT THE INCIDENT, AND POLICE CONFIRMED NO ONE WAS CHARGED IN THIS INCIDENT. THE DEFENCE FORCE IS GOING TO COURT OVER NOISE COMPLAINTS NEAR ONE OF ITS RIFLE RANGES. CHARLOTTE MULDER JOINS US NOW FROM OUR CHRISTCHURCH NEWSROOM. TELL US MORE, CHARLOTTE. THE SELWYN DISTRICT COUNCIL ARE REFUSING TO BAN RESIDENTS FROM COMPLAINING ABOUT THE ARMY RIFLE NOISE IF THEY ARE LIVING CLOSE TO THE RANGE. THE HEARING BEGAN YESTERDAY, WITH THE MILITARY WANTING NEW PROPERTIES BUILT AROUND THE RIFLE RANGE TO PROTECT ITSELF FROM NEIGHBOURS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NOISE. THE SELWYN DISTRICT COUNCIL DECLINED TO INCLUDE THE COVENANT AND ITS DISTRICT PLAN, PROMPTING THE DEFENCE FORCE TO APPEAL TO THE ENVIRONMENT COURT TO REVERSE THAT DECISION. IN THE HEARING, THE DEFENCE FORCE SAYS IT HAS ALREADY RECEIVED A LOW NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE NOISE, AND THEY ARE CONCERNED IF THAT NUMBER INCREASES, THE MILITARY WILL HAVE TO LIMIT ITS OPERATIONS TO MANAGE THE NOISE. THEY ARE ALSO CONCERNED THAT THIS WILL HAVE HUGE CONSEQUENCES, NOT ONLY ON THE NEW ZEALAND DEFENCE FORCE, BUT ON NEW ZEALAND SECURITY AS A WHOLE. THE HEARING WILL CONTINUE LATER ON. THANKS FOR THAT, CHARLOTTE. INTERESTING, ACTUALLY. THE SPCA IS DESPERATELY TRYING TO FIND THREE OF ITS ANIMALS AFTER A BREAK-IN AT ITS NELSON CENTRE. SEVERAL ANIMALS WERE LET OUT OF THEIR ENCLOSURES DURING THE INCIDENT, AND WHILE MOST HAVE BEEN FOUND, TWO DOGS AND A CAT ARE STILL MISSING. GENERAL MANAGER OF ANIMAL SERVICES COREY REGNERUS KELL JOINS ME NOW. COREY, GOOD MORNING. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT WE KNOW AT THIS POINT IS ON SUNDAY EVENING, NOT TOO LONG AFTER THE CENTRE HAD CLOSED FOR THE AFTERNOON, ONCE THEY FINISHED FEEDING ALL THE ANIMALS, THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN WHO HAS BROKEN INTO THE PROPERTY. WE SEEM TO HAVE FOUND THE INITIAL SPOT WHERE THEY BROKE IN AND USED BOLTS CUTTERS TO BREAK IN. THEY WERE ON THE PROPERTY FOR FIVE TO BREAK IN. THEY WERE ON THE PROPERTY FOR FIVE TO SIX OURS. THEY LET OUT A RANGE OF ANIMALS THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN TOGETHER, SOME THAT HAVE JUST ARRIVED AT THE CENTRE. HE CAME BACK TO THE PROPERTY THE NEXT DAY, CONTINUING TO WANDER AROUND, REMOVE FURNITURE AND OTHER THINGS. 15, CONTINUING TO WANDER AROUND, REMOVE FURNITURE AND OTHER THINGS. 15 TO 20 ANIMALS WERE OUT OF CAGES. SO THE AND PACKED ON ANIMALS AND STAFF ON THE MONDAY MORNING WAS QUITE UPSETTING. WHAT WAS IT LIKE YESTERDAY TO WALK INTO THAT SCENE? AND I KNOW THAT WAS OTHER STUFF THAT DID THAT. BUT FOR THEM TO WALK INTO THAT SCENE AND THEN LOOK AT THE FOOTAGE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED. IT MUST HAVE BEEN DISTRESSING NOT ONLY FOR SPCA STAFF, BUT ALSO FOR THE ANIMALS AS WELL. ABSOLUTELY. THE TEAM SHARED WITH ME WHEN THEY WALKED IN, THEY WENT, OH NO, SO AND SO IS OUT OF THEIR CAGE, AND THEN THEY WALKED AROUND AND WENT, OH, WHY IS THIS ONE OUT? SPCA IS HERE TO SUPPORT AND SPEAK FOR THE ANIMALS WHO CANNOT SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, SO THIS IS A SAFE SPACE. THIS IS NOT UNCOMMON FROM A THREAT PERSPECTIVE, BUT FOR AN ACTUAL BREAK-IN, IT IS RARE. WE RECEIVE REGULAR PHONE CALLS DAILY WITH THREATS FROM ANIMALS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN INCOME IN ORDER TO REMOVE THEM FROM THE SITUATION. SO THIS WAS VERY UNSETTLING TO HAVE THIS SPACE UPSET AND DISRUPTED AS SOONER THEY WALKED IN ON A MONDAY MORNING TO FIND THE HARD WORK THEY HAD DONE WAS NOT ABLE TO BE UPHELD. SO THERE ARE THREE ANIMALS THAT ARE MISSING. WERE THEY TAKEN, OR WAS IT A MATTER OF THE CAGES WERE OPEN, THE DOORS WERE OPEN, AND THE ANIMALS ESCAPED? UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THESE ANIMALS ARE. THEY MAY HAVE BEEN TAKEN. WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE ON THE CCTV FOOTAGE THAT ONE OF THEM IS BARKING OUTSIDE THE DOOR CALLING FOR HELP FROM PEOPLE THAT HE KNEW. WE HAVE TWO DOGS AND ONE CAT. SIMBA WHO IS AN EIGHT-MONTH-OLD MASTIFF CROSS. HE HAS JUST COME INTO THE CENTRE SO UNLIKELY TO BE APPROACHED. YOU WILL NEED TO GET IN TOUCH IF YOU SEE HIM. BORIS THE DOMESTIC CAT WHO WAS ABOUT FIVE YEARS OLD AND FRANKIE THE COLLIE CROSS WHO'S BLACK-AND-WHITE. YOU CAN REPORT IT BY CONTACTING US. THE SAD AND INFURIATING THING ABOUT THIS ` THIS IS NOT ACTUALLY SOMETHING NEW IN TERMS OF THE SPCA BEING BROKEN INTO. TELL ME THE HISTORY OF THAT WITH THE NELSON ONE, BUT ALSO THIS HAPPENS AROUND THE COUNTRY AS WELL. WE ARE AN INTERESTING DYNAMIC. WE ARE SITTING WITHIN THIS COMPLIANCE SPACE WHERE WE WANT TO BE THERE TO SUPPORT THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND ANIMALS THAT ARE IN NEED WITHIN THOSE COMMUNITIES. VANDALISM OF OUR PROPERTY IS NOT UNCOMMON AROUND THE COUNTRY. WHETHER THAT IS BREAKING WINDOWS, VANDALISING WALLS, BREAKING INTO VEHICLES, DEFACING PROPERTY. THIS IS BEYOND THE PHYSICAL, IT IS THE MENTAL TRAUMA AROUND THE COUNTRY. THAT GETTING CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT. MESSAGES ARE PEOPLE BREAKING INTO CENTRES AND STEALING ANIMALS. IT IS NOT UNCOMMON, AND IT IS UNFORTUNATE THIS IS THE KIND OF AREA THAT WE LIVE IN, BUT OUR STAFF ARE SO PROUD OF WHAT THEY DO. THIS IS WHEN IT BECOMES REALLY UNSETTLING, WHEN THESE THREATS BECOME TRUTH, AND THIS NELSON ONE REALLY HIT HOME. COREY, JUST BEFORE WE GO, WE'RE GOING TO GET YOU TO AGAIN SPEAK TO THE PUBLIC. IF WE CAN HAVE THOSE PICTURES OF THOSE TWO ANIMALS, THE TWO DOGS AND THE CAT, TO ROLL AGAIN. IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO OUR AUDIENCE TO SAY WHAT THEY CAN DO IF THEY SEE THESE DOGS, OR THESE ANIMALS, OUT AND ABOUT. WE HAVE SIMBA, PARTICULARLY WHO WE WANT TO CALL UP THE CAUTION AROUND, HER AS AN EIGHT-MONTH-OLD MASTIFF CROSS. HE IS VERY SHY. HE HAS COME OUT OF A SITUATION WHERE HE NEEDS TO BE HELD GENTLY. WE DON'T WANT TO SPOOK HIM. WE HAVE BEEN TERRIFIED FOR HIM. PLEASE IF YOU NOTICE HIM, WATCH HIM FROM A DISTANCE, GIVE US A CALL. SOMEONE WILL SHOW UP. FRANKIE IS THE BLACK AND WHITE 1.5 YEAR OLD LAB-COLLIE MIX. BE GENTLE WITH HER. GENTLE PATS, AND IF YOU CAN RESTRAIN HER IN ANYWAY, IT WILL BE APPRECIATED. AND WE HAVE THE BLACK CAT ABOUT FIVE YEARS OLD. APPARENTLY HE IS SUPER SMOOCHY. COREY, REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. AND LET'S HOPE THESE ANIMALS TURN UP AT THE SPCA IN NELSON AND THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS IS COURT AS WELL. GENERAL MANAGER FOR ANIMAL SERVICES. THANKS, COREY. E WHAI AKE NEI ` IT MIGHT BE TOUGH TIMES, BUT ARE YOU GETTING PAID WHAT YOU DESERVE? NEXT ` THE BEST STRATEGIES FOR GETTING A PAY RISE. # SHE'S GOT EVERYTHING (UPBEAT MUSIC) KIA ORA ANO. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. HERE'S WHAT'S MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING ` FRENCH PRESIDENT EMMANUEL MACRON HAS TALKED WITH U.S. COUNTERPART DONALD TRUMP, AS EUROPEAN LEADERS GATHER IN PARIS TO DISCUSS UKRAINE. COOK ISLANDS PRIME MINISTER MARK BROWN'S ARRIVED HOME AFTER SIGNING A CONTENTIOUS DEAL WITH CHINA, AND IS EXPECTED TO FACE PROTESTS OUTSIDE PARLIAMENT TODAY. AND, TAURANGA MAYOR MAHE DRYSDALE'S DEFENDING HIMSELF AGAINST CRITICISM HE'S NOT FULFILLED AN ELECTION PROMISE TO LIVE PERMANENTLY IN THE CITY. ASKING FOR A PAY RISE CAN BE TRICKY AT THE BEST OF TIMES, AND WHEN THE ECONOMY IS IN RECESSION ` FORGET ABOUT IT! OR... MAYBE NOT. EARLIER I SPOKE TO OUR FINANCIAL GURU FRANCES COOK WHO THINKS YOU CAN ASK EVEN WHEN THE BOOKS AREN'T LOOKING GOOD. I STARTED BY ASKING HER IF THIS IS THE LAST THING BUSINESSES NEED AT THE MOMENT. I KNOW. I'VE GOT TO SAY, I'VE GOT TO BALANCE THIS A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT BUSINESSES ARE GOING THROUGH A TOUGH TIME. BUT THE THING IS, THERE'S ALSO LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL COMING, SO EVERYONE'S GOT TO BE READY TO MAKE THAT MOVE. WE HAD, RECENTLY, HSBC SAYING... YOU MIGHT REMEMBER SOME OF THEIR ANALYSTS SAYING A FEW YEARS BACK, THEY WERE THE ONES THAT CALLED US THE ROCK STAR ECONOMY. LAST YEAR, THEY SAID IT WAS ENTIRELY THE OPPOSITE, AND THEY SAID THAT NEW ZEALAND WAS ONE OF THE WORST HIT ECONOMIES IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD THROUGH 2024. SO WE'VE HAD A REALLY ROUGH TIME, BUT WE'RE COMING UP ON ` THE SECOND HALF OF THIS YEAR ` WE ARE EXPECTING THINGS TO START RECOVERING, SO IF YOU WANT A PAY RISE, NOW IS THE TIME TO START LAYING THAT GROUNDWORK BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT IT CAN ` IF YOU DELAY TOO LATE, THEN WE JUST HIT THE NEXT RECESSION. SO YOU'VE GOT TO BE` YOU'VE GOT TO BE READY. IT CAN BE A VERY AWKWARD CONVERSATION, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GAUGE ABOUT MAYBE HOW MUCH YOUR COLLEAGUES ARE EARNING AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT HOW DO YOU FIND OUT HOW MUCH YOU'RE ACTUALLY WORTH? YEAH, AND I THINK THE THING IS THAT WE OFTEN DO MISS OUT ON A PAY RISE JUST BECAUSE WE FEEL KIND OF AWKWARD ABOUT TALKING ABOUT IT. BUT YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER THAT MOST BUSINESSES ACTUALLY EXPECT YOU TO NEGOTIATE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE STARTING A JOB. THEY'RE WAITING FOR YOU TO COUNTEROFFER ON THE SALARY, BUT THEY'RE ALSO READY FOR YOU TO BE BRINGING IT UP ON SORT OF A YEARLY BASIS. SO IF YOU DON'T ASK, THEY HAVE ALREADY ASSUMED YOU'RE GOING TO ASK, THEY'VE PROBABLY STARTED OFF WITH A LOWER OFFER. THAT'S THEIR NEGOTIATING POINT. THEY'RE EXPECTING YOU TO NEGOTIATE THEM UP. AND SO IF YOU DON'T ASK, YOU'RE ACTUALLY LEAVING MONEY ON THE TABLE. YOU TALK ABOUT HAVING A CONVERSATION. IS IT ADVISABLE TO ACTUALLY PUT IT IN WRITING PERHAPS, AND WRITE AN EMAIL SO YOU CAN ORDER YOUR THOUGHTS A BIT BETTER AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT SAME SORT OF AWKWARDNESS? YEAH, AND MANY OF US DO FIND THAT A LITTLE BIT EASIER, RIGHT? GET IT IN WRITING, GET IT WRITTEN DOWN. I THINK AT THE VERY LEAST, YOU PROBABLY WANT TO` IF IT'S SORT OF LIKE A PAY CONVERSATION AT A JOB YOU'RE ALREADY IN, FLAG IT TO YOUR BOSS IN WRITING, YOU KNOW. SEND THEM A LITTLE EMAIL AND SAY, 'HEY, I'D LOVE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT CAREER PROGRESSION. 'WHEN IS A GOOD TIME TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CHAT?' NOW THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS. THEY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO TALK ABOUT FROM THAT. AND SO IT MEANS THAT THEY'RE IN THE RIGHT HEADSPACE. THEY'LL HAVE DONE THEIR RESEARCH TOO, AND YOU ALL SORT OF COME INTO IT IN THE RIGHT FRAME OF MIND. YOU CAN ALSO FOLLOW IT UP ON EMAIL AND SAY, 'HEY, I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE SOME OF THE POINTS I MADE. 'AND, I'VE DELIVERED THESE PROJECTS, I HAVE GOT THESE WINS FOR THE COMPANY.' ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO LINK ANYTHING YOU'VE DONE TO ANY MONEY THAT THE COMPANY HAS MADE ` THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD ONE TO HIGHLIGHT, BUT MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT A LIST OF YOUR WINS READY TO GO. BUT I THINK YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO WANT TO HAVE SOME PART OF THE CONVERSATION FACE-TO-FACE. BECAUSE AGAIN, WITH THESE ICKY MONEY CONVERSATIONS, IF YOU LOSE TONE, IT CAN JUST GET A LITTLE BIT MORE TENSE THAN IT NEEDS TO. THINGS CAN COME ACROSS A ACROSS A LITTLE BIT MORE UPFRONT THAN YOU MAYBE MEAN TO IN EMAIL, SO MAYBE START AND END IT BY EMAIL. MAKE SURE YOU'RE PREPARED. YOU'VE GONE THROUGH A LITTLE LIST OF THINGS YOU'VE ACHIEVED FOR THE COMPANY. YOU'VE GOT THEM TOP OF MIND. YOU'RE READY GOING INTO THE MEETING. BUT PART OF IT, I THINK, IS ALWAYS BEST FACE-TO-FACE, SO THAT EVERYONE REMEMBERS YOU'RE HUMAN AND YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER. HOW IMPORTANT IS IT THAT YOU ACTUALLY COME PREPARED WITH HARD DATA, HARD EVIDENCE, AND NOT TO BRING IN PERSONAL STUFF, SAYING, 'I NEED THIS,' OR 'I'M STRUGGLING HERE,' BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE WOULD HAVE THAT` THEY WOULD FEEL LIKE THEY WOULD NEED TO PULL ON THAT TO TRY AND GET THINGS ACROSS THE LINE. YEAH, AND I THINK THE REASON THAT ANYONE'S ASKING FOR A PAY RISE, RIGHT, WE ALL KNOW IT ` THE COST OF LIVING IS THROUGH THE ROOF, YOUR MORTGAGE IS PROBABLY CRIPPLING YOU. AND ALL OF THOSE ARE VERY FINE REASONS TO WANT A PAY RISE FROM YOUR POINT OF VIEW, BUT I THINK IF YOU BRING THOSE UP IN THE MEETING WITH YOUR BOSS, YOU'RE NOT MAKING THE BEST CASE YOU CAN. THE CLASSIC NEGOTIATION THING IS YOU WANT TO ALWAYS BE NEGOTIATING FROM THE OTHER PERSON'S POINT OF POINT OF VIEW. SO YOU WANT TO BE TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT MATTER TO THEM. SO THEY PROBABLY DO CARE ABOUT YOU AS A PERSON, OR AT LEAST I HOPE THEY DO, BUT THOSE AREN'T THE THINGS THAT THEY CAN MAKE A CASE TO THE BUSINESS ON YOUR BEHALF OF WHY YOU DESERVE A PAY RISE. MEANWHILE, IF YOU... YOU KNOW IT'S NICE TO KEEP A LITTLE WINS FOLDER IF YOU CAN. IF YOU'RE COMING INTO IT NOW, JUST HAVE A LITTLE THINK ABOUT WHAT HAVE I DELIVERED FOR PEOPLE AT VARIOUS TIMES, AND THINK ABOUT TIMES THAT YOU'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND, OR TIMES THAT YOU'VE DELIVERED A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA CASH FOR THE COMPANY, YOU'VE LANDED A NEW CUSTOMER, OR YOU DELIVERED THIS PROJECT, IT WENT REALLY WELL, YOU FILLED IN FOR THIS BOSS, YOU'VE GOT THESE EXTRA SKILLS. ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT YOU CAN BRING UP ` THOSE ARE SHOWING HOW YOU'RE IMPORTANT TO THE BUSINESS, AND HOW YOU ARE MAKING MONEY FOR THEM, AND SO YOU SHOULD GET A CUT OF IT. THE MORE YOU CAN BRING OF THAT, THE STRONGER YOUR CASE IS GOING TO BE. ARGUE FROM THE OTHER PERSON'S POINT OF VIEW. SOME EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT ADVICE AS ALWAYS. INDEPENDENT FINANCIAL JOURNALIST FRANCES COOK, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. THANKS FOR HAVING ME. I FEEL LIKE THAT IS ALWAYS THE BEST WAY TO APPROACH IT, IS TO GO, NOT FROM AN EMOTIONAL STANDPOINT, THAT YOU HAD TO BUILD A BUSINESS CASE FOR YOURSELF. EVEN KEEPING A RECORD AS YOU GO THROUGH THE YEAR OF THINGS YOU ARE PROUD OF, THINGS YOU FEEL YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE BUSINESS. MAYBE PUT A NOTE. YOU LOOK BACK AND GO, I DID THAT AND THAT WELL, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THAT MOMENT, YOU SAY, THIS IS THE BODY OF WORK THAT I'VE GOT. YES, I RECEIVED A RAISE, BUT NOT TO WHAT I WANTED. I LEFT SHORTLY AFTER TO BETTER PAY AND CONDITIONS. I DID THIS THING, THE ONE TIME I ASKED FOR A PAY RISE. IT WAS A FEW YEARS AGO NOW, AND I THOUGHT, I'M GOING TO DO THIS THING CALLED FEAR SETTING. YOU THINK OF WHAT YOUR GREATEST FEAR IS THAT I THOUGHT, LOSE MY JOB, NOT PAY MY MORTGAGE, HAD TO SELL THE HOUSE, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THE KIDS? YOU GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT. LEGALLY THEY CAN'T FIRE YOU FOR ASKING FOR MORE MONEY, SO... I WAS THINKING WORST CASE SCENARIO. THEN YOU OFFSET ALL OF THAT. SO I WORKED MYSELF UP, AND I WENT INTO THE BOSSES, NEVER SAYS ANYTHING TO STOP HAD WRITTEN EVERYTHING DOWN BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO FORGET ANYTHING. CONVERSATION WAS OK. OK, I WILL COME BACK TO YOU. AND THEN THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, ACTUALLY, YOU ARE ASKED MONEY. YOU OWE US MONEY* WHAT? ME U TONU MAI ` WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK AFTER THE BREAK WITH YOUR 6.30 NEWS. PLUS ` THE LATEST FROM THE COOK ISLANDS, AS THE FALL OUT FROM ITS NEW PARTNERSHIP WITH CHINA CONTINUES. (UPBEAT MUSIC) (DOG BARKS) VOICE-OVER: Imagine if you could start thriving. AIA Vitality is a science-backed health and well-being program that gives you the guidance, tools and rewards you need to thrive. So get AIA Vitality and start thriving. EUROPEAN LEADERS HAVE GATHERED IN PARIS FOR AN EMERGENCY SUMMIT AMID SECURITY CONCERNS FOR THE CONTINENT. THE MEETINGS WERE HASTILY SCHEDULED TO ADDRESS HOW EUROPE CAN SHORE UP DEFENCES WITHOUT RELYING ON FIREPOWER FROM THEIR TRADITIONAL AMERICAN ALLIES. IT COMES AS RUSSIA AND THE U.S. PREPARE FOR PEACE TALKS IN SAUDI ARABIA, WITH NEITHER UKRAINE NOR EUROPE AT THE TABLE. FRENCH PRESIDENT EMMANUEL MACRON HAS REPORTEDLY SPOKEN TO U.S. COUNTERPART DONALD TRUMP ON THE PHONE PRIOR TO THE SUMMIT. THERE ARE FEARS YOUNG PEOPLE ARE MISSING OUT ON MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, WITH THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ACCESSING SPECIALIST HELP DROPPING. IN THE YEAR TO JUNE 2024, 3000 FEWER PEOPLE WERE BEING SEEN BY SPECIALISTS, DUE TO WORKFORCE SHORTAGES AND NEEDS BECOMING MORE COMPLEX. THE MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLBEING COMMISSION SAYS IT'S VERY CONCERNED BY THE DOWNWARD TREND, AND THE GOVERNMENT MUST URGENTLY ADDRESS THE SHORTAGES. FIRE CREWS ARE RETURNING TO A LARGE VEGETATION FIRE THIS MORNING IN PORT WAIKATO. THE 3ha FIRE IS CURRENTLY CONTAINED, HOWEVER FIRE AND EMERGENCY NEW ZEALAND CONFIRM IT'S NOT YET 100% EXTINGUISHED. A CREW IS DUE AT FIRST LIGHT TO ASSESS THE BLAZE, FOLLOWING FAVOURABLE WEATHER CONDITIONS OVERNIGHT. LARGE SECTIONS OF A REGIONAL PARK IN WELLINGTON ARE SHUT, FOLLOWING A RISE IN FIRE RISK. GREATER WELLINGTON HAS CLOSED PARANGARAHU LAKES AND BARING HEAD FROM 1pm UNTIL 9pm DAILY UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. MEANWHILE, RIDGE TRACK IS COMPLETELY OFF LIMITS TO THE PUBLIC DUE TO LIMITED ESCAPE OPTIONS. TO SPORT, AND THE BLACKCAPS HAVE ENJOYED THE PERFECT WARM UP TO THE CHAMPIONS TROPHY WITH A TRI NATION SERIES WIN AND A VICTORY OVER AFGHANISTAN. NEW ZEALAND WILL TAKE ON HOSTS PAKISTAN IN THE TOURNAMENT OPENER AFTER DEFEATING THEM TWICE EARLIER THIS MONTH IN CONVINCING FASHION. WE WANTED TO COME OUT ON TOP AND WE HAVE DONE THAT, BUT I THINK OVERALL THE PREPARATION IN THESE CONDITIONS HAS BEEN A GREAT STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR WHERE WE WANT TO GO THROUGHOUT THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. THE MATCH GETS UNDERWAY TOMORROW NIGHT AT 10pm. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE MARKETS. (GROOVY MUSIC) AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. IT'S LOOKING LIKE ANOTHER GREY DAY. PARTLY CLOUDY FOR MOST OF YOU WITH SCATTERED RAIN FOR MOST AND ISOLATED SHOWERS IN THE NORTH, TURNING MAINLY FINE ON THE EAST COAST. 27 THE HIGH IN AUCKLAND. 29 IN GISBORNE. SIMILAR STORY IN THE SOUTH ISLAND. PACK YOUR BROLLY, THOUGH ` RAINY PERIODS FOR MOST OF YOU HERE. THIS WILL EASE TO SHOWERS LATER ON IN CANTERBURY AND MARLBOROUGH. TAKE CARE ` THERE IS AN ORANGE HEAVY RAIN WARNING IN PLACE IN THE RANGES OF THE TASMAN DISTRICT NORTHWEST OF MOTUEKA UNTIL 8am TODAY THIS NEXT SEGMENT IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY ROTORUA NZ. ROTORUA IS THE ULTIMATE DESTINATION FOR RELAXATION. FROM SOOTHING SPAS AND REJUVENATING FACIALS TO INDULGENT DINING AND SERENE LAKESIDE STAYS, THERE'S NO SHORTAGE OF WAYS TO UNWIND. THIS WEEK, MATT GIBB HAS HEADED TO ROTORUA TO CHECK OUT SOME OF THE EXPERIENCES THAT ARE ON OFFER. TRUE TO FORM, HE IS IN A BATH ROBE RECLINING? GOOD MORNING, CHRIS. THOUGHT I WOULD START THE YEAR AS A MENTOR GO ON, RELAXING IN MY ROBE HERE. IN A BEAUTIFUL ROTORUA. THEY ARE ENCOURAGING ALL KIWIS TO GO ON A ROBE TRIP. AND EXPERIENCE EVERYTHING IT HAS TO OFFER. WE HAVE AN AMAZING PRIZE PACK FOR TOQUE FOR A WEEKEND HAIR, DOING SOME INCREDIBLE EXPERIENCES SUCH AS HEADING TO THE HOT SPRINGS AND SPA, HEADING TO THE MAORI VILLAGE, REDWOOD TREE WALK. GO TO THE WEBSITE. ALL THE DETAILS ARE THERE. WHEN YOU DO WHEN THIS INCREDIBLE PRICE YOU WILL BE STAYING, SLEEPING IN THIS BED AND STAYING AT THIS WONDERFUL LODGE WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW. LET ME INTRODUCE YOU TO THE GENERAL MANAGER. THIS IS ANNE. GOOD MORNING, ANNE. YOU LOOK FANTASTIC. 21 YEARS YOU HAVE BEEN OPEN. TELL ME ABOUT THE HISTORY. THE OWNER IS ACTUALLY A ROTORUA BUSINESSWOMAN. HER AND HER LATE HUSBAND PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN 1977. THEY RAISED THEIR FOUR CHILDREN HAIR. IT IS A PRIVATE HOME AND YOU ACTUALLY BEING WELCOMED INTO THEIR PRIVATE HOME. THE CHILDREN GREW UP AND FLEW THE NEST, AND THEY DECIDED TO HOLD ONTO THE PROPERTY, THEY RENOVATED, AND OPENED THE DOORS IN 2004. I HAVE BEEN ENJOYING MY STAY HERE. THE WEATHER IS NOT EXACTLY PLAYING BALL WITH US. SO I CANNOT SHOW YOU WHAT IT IS LIKE OUTSIDE. BUT WE HAVE SOME FOOTAGE OF WHAT A BEAUTIFUL LOCATION IT IS. THE BEAUTY OF THE PROPERTY IS THAT WE ARE LOCATED ONLY SEVEN MINUTES FROM THE CITY CENTRE. WE ARE ON 5 ACRES OF METICULOUSLY GROOMED LAND. YOU CAN GO OFF AND ENJOY ALL THOSE WONDERFUL ATTRACTIONS AND EXPERIENCES. THE FOOD HERE IS FANTASTIC. YOU CAN ENJOY A ROOM ONLY, YOU CAN ENJOY AN A LA CARTE DINNER. WE HAD TO LOOK AFTER YOU. THAT IS OUR MAIN MESSAGE THE GOAT WAS HERE RECENTLY. DAME LISA CARRINGTON. SHE HAD TO LET ME KNOW THAT SHE HAD NOT FED A DONKEY IN HER LIFE. I WAS STRAIGHT INTO THAT OPPORTUNITY. WE TOOK HER DOWN TO MEET SOME OF THE PITTING ANIMALS WE HAVE. WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE OF HER FEELINGS AND CARROTS TO THE DONKEYS. AS IT HAPPENED, SOME ROWERS CAME AROUND THE CORNER. SHE THOUGHT I HAD DONE THAT ALL MAGICALLY, BUT NO, IT WAS JUST A FLUKE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING ME LOOK AROUND. YOU COULD BE STAYING HERE FOR TWO NIGHTS, IF YOU HEAD TO THE BREAKFAST WEBSITE. ALL OF THOSE EXPERIENCES, GO TO THE WEBSITE. GET YOURSELF IN THE DRAW. I WILL BE SHOWING YOU MORE THIS MORNING, INCLUDING SOME FANTASTIC EXPERIENCES. WE GOING TO THE REDWOODS TREE WALK SOON. WE WOULD NOT EXPECT ANYTHING LESS FROM YOU, BEING IN A BATHROBE LIVING YOUR BEST LIFE. YOU ARE LUCKY I PUT THE JEANS ON THIS MORNING. WE'RE CONTINUING THE STORY ABOUT WHEN I WENT TO ASK FOR A PAY RISE. WE GOT SOME GREAT ADVICE THIS MORNING. YOU TRIED TO ASK FOR A PAY RISE. ENDED UP THAT I OWED TVNZ MONEY. THEY ARE COMING FOR YOU. WITHOUT GOING INTO THAT TOO MUCH, I WENT HOME AND CRIED MY EYES OUT. AT THE END OF IT, JUST ASKING FOR THAT PAY RISE WHEN I DID NOT GET ONE, BECAUSE I OWED THEM MONEY, ACTUALLY ME DOING IT, I FELT VERY EMPOWERED BY THAT. I KNOW MANY OF YOU WILL GO, WHAT A FULL, YOU DID NOT GET ANY MONEY, BUT I DID NOT EXPECT THAT WOULD BE THE OUTCOME. THE FACT THAT I ACTUALLY ASKED, FOR ME, WAS A HUGE THING, AND I FELT REALLY PROUD OF MYSELF BY THE END OF IT, EVEN THOUGH THAT WAS NOT NECESSARILY THE GOAL. THERE WAS A SILVER LINING. SUPER AWKWARD ASKING PEOPLE YOU WORK WITH ON A CLOSE BASIS IF YOU CAN HAVE SOME MORE MONEY. PLEASE SIR, CAN I HAVE SOME MORE? IF YOU HAVE ANY HORROR STORIES, PLEASE LET US KNOW AS OUR EMAIL. ME U TONU MAI ` ANTI-GOVERNMENT PROTESTS ARE PLANNED IN THE COOK ISLANDS TODAY. AFTER THE BREAK, WE'RE LIVE TO RAROTONGA FOR THE LATEST. WOMAN: Excuse me. Sorry. VOICEOVER: There are loads of great reasons to travel New Zealand. When you're ready to take off, we'll zip you to epic spots across the country. If you just can't choose... pack them all. (PEOPLE TALKING) And if you're not ready to call it... a flight changes in your pocket. FLIGHT ATTENDANT: You all good there, Roman? Whether you're a first time flyer or a regular, great trips begin with Air New Zealand. HERE'S WHAT'S MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING ` WINTER STORMS CONTINUE TO PUMMEL THE UNITED STATES, WITH THE DEATH TOLL RISING TO AT LEAST 11. EUROPEAN LEADERS HAVE GATHERED IN PARIS FOR AN EMERGENCY SUMMIT AMID SECURITY CONCERNS FOR THE CONTINENT. AND THERE ARE FEARS YOUNG PEOPLE ARE MISSING OUT ON MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, WITH THE NUMBER ACCESSING SPECIALIST HELP DROPPING. POLITICAL UNREST IN THE COOK ISLANDS IS SIMMERING AS LOCALS PREPARE TO PROTEST OUTSIDE PARLIAMENT TODAY. PRIME MINISTER MARK BROWN HAS JUST RETURNED FROM CHINA, WHERE HE SIGNED A PARTNERSHIP DEAL, DETAILS OF WHICH REMAIN UNDER WRAPS. WHILE HE WAS AWAY, A VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE HAS BEEN FILED AGAINST HIM AFTER HE PUSHED FOR COOK ISLANDERS TO HAVE THEIR OWN PASSPORTS, INSTEAD OF USING NEW ZEALAND'S. 1 NEWS PACIFIC CORRESPONDENT BARBARA DREAVER JOINS US NOW. WHAT IS THE ATMOSPHERE IN THE COOK ISLANDS, AHEAD OF THE PLANNED PROTESTS? IT IS FAIR TO SAY THAT THERE IS A FEELING OF UNCERTAINTY. THAT SEEMS TO BE THE OVERWHELMING FEELING HERE. UNCERTAINTY AND ALSO CONCERN ABOUT THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY AS YOU JUST SAID, THE PRIME MINISTER DID RETURN YESTERDAY FROM CHINA, TO A VERY CAREFULLY ORCHESTRATED WELCOME. QUITE UNUSUAL FOR THE COOK ISLANDS, HE WAS IN THE VIP LOUNGE AND HE HAD ARRANGED FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE TRADITIONAL CLASS, MEMBERS OF CABINET, THE RELIGIOUS ADVISORY COUNCIL, THEY WERE ALL THERE TO MEET HIM. AT A PRESS CONFERENCE WHICH WE WERE BARRED FROM GOING INTO, AFTERWARDS I ASKED HIM ABOUT CHINA AND HE SAID, I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE DONE A HATCHET JOB. THAT ALL STEMS FROM AN INTERVIEW WE DID WITH THE PRIME MINISTER WHERE I ASKED HIM QUESTIONS AND HE ANSWERED, AND WE PUT IN NEW ZEALAND'S RESPONSE TO THAT ONTO ONE NEWS. HE WAS CLEARLY NOT WANTING TO BE ANSWERING SOME OF THE TOUGH QUESTIONS THAT WE WOULD BE PUTTING TO HIM, AS WE WOULD TO ANY LEADER. BUT IT DOES SHOW THAT THE MOOD HAD ENTERED THE COOK ISLANDS` THIS IS PROBABLY THE TOUGHEST CHALLENGE TO HIS LEADERSHIP SINCE HE CAME INTO POWER IN 2020. AS YOU SAID, THE PRIME MINISTER HAS JUST RETURNED FROM CHINA, BUT BEFORE HE LEFT NOBODY KNEW WHAT THE CONTENTS OF THIS DEAL WITH CHINA WAS. WHEN WILL WE KNOW WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE AGREEMENT? YES, BECAUSE THEY STILL DON'T KNOW. THE PRIME MINISTER IN HAS CONFERENCE WHICH WE WERE BARRED FROM, HE SAID THAT IT WOULD BE MADE PUBLIC. THIS IS THE STRATEGIC COMPREHENSIVE PARTNERSHIP DEAL, THAT HAS BEEN PUT ON THE TABLE. HE WILL MAKE THAT PUBLIC, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WERE A NUMBER OF MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING IS THAT HE SIGNED IN CHINA. THERE IS THIS BIG PARTNERSHIP DEAL, AND IT IS PRETTY STANDARD THAT OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE SIGNED, SO THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE. THE DETAIL IS IN THE FINE PRINT, AND THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW. WHAT ARE IN THESE MEMORANDUMS OF UNDERSTANDING THAT HAD BEEN SIGNED? WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WILL HAPPEN. WE KNOW THIS HAS CAUSED SOME TENSION BETWEEN THE NEW ZEALAND GOVERNMENT AND THE COOK ISLANDS GOVERNMENT. HOW KEEN ARE LOCALS TO MAINTAIN A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH NEW ZEALAND? THE RELATIONSHIP WITH NEW ZEALAND IS PRIMARY IN TERMS OF, EVERYONE WANTS TO RETAIN THEIR NEW ZEALAND PASSPORT. NEW ZEALAND HAS SAID WE WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS. YOU CANNOT HAVE YOUR OWN PASSPORT. THEY SAID THAT IF YOU HAVE YOUR OWN PASSPORT, YOU HAVE TO BE INDEPENDENT. THAT IS A BIG CONCERN FOR THE PEOPLE HERE. THEY ALSO WANT GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH NEW ZEALAND. THE PRIME MINISTER SAYS THAT THERE IS, THAT IT IS STILL THERE, HOWEVER IT IS CLEARLY NOT THE CASE. NEW ZEALAND HAS COME OUT AND SAID WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ARE IN THESE DEALS WITH CHINA, WE NEED TO SEE THESE AS PART OF A CONSTITUTIONAL ARRANGEMENT. PEOPLE HERE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE MARCHING HERE TO PARLIAMENT TODAY. WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE AGAINST THE PRIME MINISTER? THAT HAS BEEN FILED, BUT THERE ARE DELAYS BECAUSE PARLIAMENTARY PROCESSES NEED TO BE GONE THROUGH. THERE IS A 14 DAY NOTICE PERIOD. THAT IS A LITTLE WAY OFF, HOWEVER AS HAS BEEN FILED. WE WILL WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, OPPOSITION PARTIES, AND HOW THEY GATHER TOGETHER ` THAT WILL BE UNFOLDING IN THE DAYS AHEAD. GREAT WORK, BARB. APPRECIATE YOU BEING WITH US THIS MORNING AS WELL. E HAERE AKE NEI ` THE 7 O'CLOCK NEWS IS COMING UP. AND NEXT, MORE NEW ZEALANDERS ARE EXITING THE COUNTRY THAN EVER BEFORE. WE'LL TELL YOU WHERE THEY'RE HEADING AFTER THE BREAK. # BOY, IT'S NOT THAT COMPLICATED. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. AS MANY NEW ZEALANDERS CONTINUE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY, NET MIGRATION LOSS HAS REACHED A RECORD HIGH. THE LATEST STATS NZ DATA SHOWS A NET LOSS OF MORE THAN 47,000 NEW ZEALAND CITIZENS IN THE YEAR TO DECEMBER. THAT'S THE LARGEST RECORDED IN A CALENDAR YEAR, AND ALMOST 4000 MORE THAN 2023. AND THE MAJORITY OF KIWIS DEPARTING ARE HEADING TO AUSTRALIA. ONE OF THOSE WAS 20-YEAR-OLD ALYSSA TABLEY, WHO MOVED TO MELBOURNE AND WORKS IN HOSPITALITY. IT'S A LOT BETTER HAVING MORE INCOME OVER HERE AND EVERYTHING, BECAUSE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE ACTUALLY GETTING YOUR WORK'S WORTH. THE COST OF LIVING CRISIS OVER HERE ISN'T AS BAD AS IT IS IN NEW ZEALAND. WE DON'T HAVE GST ON A LOT OF ESSENTIAL PRODUCTS OVER HERE, LIKE FRUITS AND VEGETABLES AND WHATNOT, SO THAT HELPS KEEP THE PRICE OF GROCERIES QUITE LOW. I DEFINITELY THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE BETTER COUNTRIES TO BE IN TO SAVE MONEY TO GO AND TRAVEL, BECAUSE YOU DO MAKE SO MUCH MONEY. LOTS OF PEOPLE ALWAYS COME UP TO ME WHENEVER I GO BACK TO CHRISTCHURCH SAYING, 'OH, WE'D LOVE TO COME TO MELBOURNE, WE WOULD LOVE TO MOVE.' I'M LIKE, 'YES, DO IT. IT'S SO WORTH IT.' FOR MORE ON WHAT'S DRIVING PEOPLE OVERSEAS, WE'RE JOINED BY CHRISTINA LEUNG FROM THE NEW ZEALAND INSTITUTE OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH. GOOD MORNING. MORENA. WHAT IS DRIVING NEW ZEALANDERS OUT OF THE COUNTRY, AND PARTICULARLY TO AUSTRALIA? WHAT ULTIMATELY DRIVES MIGRATION FLOWS AS THE RELATIVE PERFORMANCE OF LABOUR MARKETS. THE FACT WE HAVE UNEMPLOYMENT RATES RISING HERE IN NEW ZEALAND COMPARED TO AUSTRALIA. PEOPLE GO WHERE THE JOBS ARE. AND THE FACT THERE ARE BETTER JOB PROSPECTS OVER IN AUSTRALIA, THAT IS DRIVING A LOT OF THAT MOVEMENT OF NEW ZEALANDERS ACROSS THE TASMAN. IS A CASE OF, YOU GO TO AUSTRALIA, YOU'RE GOING TO GET PAID MORE? NOT NECESSARILY. IT DEPENDS ON DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES. WHAT WE HAVE SEEN OVER THE PAST YEAR IS THAT CONSTRUCTION HAS SLOWED, SO THAT HAS ENCOURAGED A LOT OF PEOPLE TO PICK UP ON THE AUSTRALIAN MINING INDUSTRY AS WELL. THAT HAS ENCOURAGED THEM TO MOVE. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ENGINEERS LEAVING IN THEIR DROVES. IS THAT LEADING TO THAT SORT OF THING ` YOU JUST DON'T HAVE THE PROJECTS HERE? WITH THE SLOWING IN CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY AND THE LACK OF THAT PIPELINE CERTAINTY, THAT UNCERTAINTY DOES MEAN THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY THOSE WITH QUITE SPECIALISED SKILLS WHERE IT WOULD BE A BIT HARDER TO SLOT INTO THE GENERAL JOB, IN AUSTRALIA YOU DO HAVE THAT PIPELINE. THAT IS ENCOURAGING A LOT OF PEOPLE TO MOVE THE. HOW ENCOURAGING IS THAT FOR OUR ECONOMY THAT WE DO SEE THIS? AS AN ECONOMIST, WE SAY IT DEPENDS. WHAT IS HAPPENING AT THE MOMENT IS THAT IT IS REFLECTING THE WEEKEND NEW ZEALAND LABOUR MARKET. TO THE EXTENT THAT WE SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT THE SOFTER LABOUR MARKET HERE IN NEW ZEALAND, AND THAT IS WHAT'S DRIVING IT, THEN YES, IT IS A CONCERN. WHAT WE EXPECT IS THAT WITH THIS SHARP DECREASE IN INTEREST RATES THAT WE HAVE HAD IN RECENT MONTHS, THAT WE SHOULD BE STARTING TO SEE THAT START TO BOOST OUR CONFIDENCE, PARTICULARLY BUSINESS CONFIDENCE. BUT THAT IS SET TO FLOW THROUGH IN TERMS OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN REAL ACTIVITY AS IT STARTS TO SUPPORT RECOVERY ACTIVITY, AND WITH THAT DEMAND AND LABOUR, WE SHOULD START TO SEE PEOPLE COMING TO NEW ZEALAND OR STAYING IN NEW ZEALAND BECAUSE ULTIMATELY PEOPLE GO WHERE THE JOBS ARE. WHAT IS THE LAG TIME? HOW MANY MONTHS DOWN THE TRACK TO START TO SEE THAT CHANGE? THAT IS A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. WE ALWAYS SAY THE LABOUR MARKET AND ECONOMIC ACTIVITY GENERALLY TAKES TIME TO REACT. THEY SEE THAT WE COULD DEMAND, AND THEN THEY START COMING BACK. CONVERSELY, ONCE THEY SEE A PICKUP IN DEMAND, THERE WILL BE INITIALLY SOME CAUTION WHEN IT COMES TO HIRING, BUT ULTIMATELY TO CATCH UP WITH THE DEMANDS THEY ARE SEEING FOR THEIR BUSINESS, THEY WILL START TO HIRE. GENERALLY IN TERMS OF THAT LAY TIME FROM WHEN IT FLOWS THROUGH TO LABOUR MARKET ACTIVITY, YOU'D TEND TO SEE ABOUT ONE YEAR TO 18 MONTHS. SO WE SHOULD SEE THAT PICKUP IN TERMS OF MIGRATION INFLOWS LATER THIS YEAR. WHERE ARE WE GETTING OUR MIGRANT WORKERS FROM? LOOKING AT STATS NZ, INDIA, CHINA. ULTIMATELY PEOPLE GO WHERE THERE ARE BETTER JOB PROSPECTS, SO IT IS REFLECTIVE OF THE RELATIVE PERFORMANCE OF JOB OPPORTUNITIES AND LABOUR MARKETS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. REALLY INTERESTING, EH? AND I PUT A CALL OUT FOR THIS EARLIER, BUT I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE GONE TO AUSTRALIA. AGAIN, IT IS ALL ABOUT THE JOB PROSPECTS. THEY DON'T WANT TO LEAVE; THEY WANT TO STAY HERE ` THEY HAVE FAMILY AND ROUTES HERE. THIS IS WHEN THEY ULTIMATELY WANT TO STAY, BUT THEY CAN'T PAY THE BILLS. SO THEY ARE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES IN AUSTRALIA. WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU IF THAT IS THE CASE FOR SOMEONE YOU KNOW. MAYBE IT IS HERE. THEY TARGET NEW ZEALAND SPECIFICALLY. WHETHER IT IS THE POLICE FORCE OR MINING, THEY WANT OUR WORKFORCE. THE DEMAND IS THEREFORE WORKERS. SO THEY ARE OUT THERE HIRING. FOR PEOPLE HERE IN NEW ZEALAND, AND THERE ARE BETTER PROSPECTS ACROSS THE TASMAN, FOR THEM IT MAKES SENSE TO HEAD ACROSS. TOTALLY. WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. EMAIL US. STILL TO COME ON THE SHOW THIS MORNING ` THE PRIME MINISTER JOINS US IN A FEW MINUTES. WHAT'S HIS PLAN TO KEEP THE COUNTRY'S BEST AND BRIGHTEST FROM HEADING OVERSEAS? THE COST-OF-LIVING CRUNCH MEANS DINING OUT IS A LUXURY FOR MANY, AND THOSE WHO ARE VENTURING OUT ARE HUNTING DEALS. WHAT THE HOSPO ASSOCIATION'S LATEST SURVEY REVEALS ABOUT OUR DINING HABITS. PLUS, WHO WILL BE CROWNED AOTEAROA'S SUPREME ATHLETE? WE TAKE A LOOK AT WHO'S IN THE RUNNING FOR TONIGHT'S HALBERG AWARDS. IS IT TONIGHT? IT'S CREPT UP ON US, HASN'T IT? DO YOU HAVE A FAVOURITE? I WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE LIST. IT'S 7 O'CLOCK. HERE'S THE NEWS. COOK ISLANDS PRIME MINISTER MARK BROWN IS BACK HOME AFTER SIGNING A CONTENTIOUS DEAL WITH CHINA, AND IS FACING PROTESTS AT HOME OVER HIS LEADERSHIP. 1 NEWS' PACIFIC CORRESPONDENT WAS BARRED FROM ATTENDING HIS PRESS CONFERENCE, WITH BROWN MAKING HIS DISPLEASURE CLEAR. DO ANOTHER HATCHET JOB ON ME. OH! THE DEFENCE FORCE IS TAKING A LOCAL COUNCIL TO COURT OVER A NOISE COMPLAINT. A HEARING HAS BEGUN IN CHRISTCHURCH, WHERE THE SELWYN DISTRICT COUNCIL IS REFUSING TO BAN RESIDENTS WHO LIVE NEAR THE WEST MELTON ARMY RIFLE RANGE FROM COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NOISE. IN THE HEARING, THE ARMY SAYS IF THE MILITARY HAVE TO LIMIT ITS OPERATIONS. THIS WOULD HAVE 'HUGE CONSEQUENCES ON NEW ZEALAND SECURITY'. WINTER STORMS CONTINUE TO PUMMEL THE UNITED STATES, WITH THE DEATH TOLL RISING TO AT LEAST 11, MOSTLY IN KENTUCKY'S SWOLLEN CREEKS AND FLOODED ROADS AFTER HEAVY RAIN. AMERICA'S NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IS NOW WARNING OF LIFE-THREATENING COLD WEATHER IN MONTANA, WITH TEMPERATURES EXPECTED TO DROP TO NEGATIVE FORTY DEGREES CELSIUS. AN ISRAELI DRONE STRIKE IN SOUTHERN LEBANON HAS KILLED THE HEAD OF HAMAS' MILITARY OPERATIONS THERE, ISRAEL'S ARMY SAYS. ISRAEL'S FORCES REMAIN IN FIVE LOCATIONS NEAR THE BORDER, DESPITE THE LOOMING DEADLINE FOR THEIR WITHDRAWAL WHICH IS PART OF THE GAZA CEASEFIRE AGREEMENT. LEBANON'S GOVERNMENT OPPOSES ANY DELAY TO THE TROOPS BEING WITHDRAWN. THE POPE'S CONDITION HAS WORSENED FROM BRONCHITIS TO A RESPIRATORY TRACT INFECTION, MEANING HE'LL REMAIN IN HOSPITAL LONGER THAN INITIALLY EXPECTED. CONCERNS ARE GROWING ABOUT THE 88-YEAR-OLD'S HEALTH, BUT THE VATICAN STRESSED THE PONTIFF'S CONDITION IS STILL STABLE, THOUGH HIS TREATMENT IS BECOMING MORE COMPLEX. WHITE FERNS CAPTAIN SOPHIE DEVINE WON'T BE INVOLVED IN THE UPCOMING SERIES AGAINST SRI LANKA, AS SHE CONTINUES TO TAKE A MENTAL WELLBEING BREAK. IT FOLLOWS DEVINE'S DECISION LAST MONTH TO WITHDRAW FROM THE SUPER SMASH AND WOMEN'S PREMIER LEAGUE, AFTER RECEIVING PROFESSIONAL ADVICE. NEW ZEALAND CRICKET SAYS IT'S FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE DECISION, AND PLAYER WELLBEING IS ITS HIGHEST PRIORITY. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE MARKETS. (FUNKY MUSIC) CHECKING OUT YOUR WEATHER TODAY. IT'S LOOKING LIKE ANOTHER GREY DAY. PARTLY CLOUDY FOR MOST OF YOU IN THE NORTH ISLAND. WITH SCATTERED RAIN FOR MOST AND ISOLATED SHOWERS IN THE NORTH, TURNING MAINLY FINE ON THE EAST COAST. 27 THE HIGH IN AUCKLAND. 29 IN GISBORNE. IT IS NICE AND WARM. SIMILAR STORY IN THE SOUTH ISLAND. PACK YOUR BROLLY, THOUGH ` RAINY PERIODS FOR MOST OF YOU HERE. THIS WILL EASE TO SHOWERS LATER ON IN CANTERBURY AND MARLBOROUGH. YOU DO HAVE AN ORANGE HEAVY RAIN WARNING IN THE RANGES OF THE TASMAN DISTRICT NORTHWEST OF MOTUEKA UNTIL 8am TODAY PRETTY WET THERE ON THE WEST COAST. THANKS, CHRIS. IT IS 7:03. AS WE JUST HEARD BEFORE THE NEWS, AOTEAROA FACES A 'BRAIN DRAIN' AND THE LATEST FIGURES FROM STATS NZ SHOW JUST HOW DIRE THE SITUATION IS. FOR HIS THOUGHTS, PRIME MINISTER CHRISTOPHER LUXON JOINS US NOW. MORENA, PRIME MINISTER. GOOD MORNING, JENNY MAY. HOW ARE YOU TODAY? REALLY GOOD, THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU AS ALWAYS BEING WITH US ON A TUESDAY MORNING. NEW ZEALANDERS ARE LEAVING AT RECORD LEVELS. WHAT DO THESE NUMBERS TELL YOU ABOUT LIFE IN NZ RIGHT NOW? WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS NET MIGRATION HAS ACTUALLY COME DOWN FROM 128,000 DOWN TO JUST 27,000. THAT IS ALL THE PEOPLE COMING INTO THE COUNTRY VERSUS LEAVING THE COUNTRY OF YOU ARE RIGHT ` WITH NEW ZEALAND CITIZENS, AND HAS GONE FROM ABOUT 43,000 IN THE LAST GOVERNMENT TO ABOUT 47,000 WITHOUT GOVERNMENT. THAT IS HISTORICALLY WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A RECESSION AND HAVE GOVERNMENT MISMANAGEMENT. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO WORK MUCH HARDER ARE GROWING OUR ECONOMY. IT IS ABOUT GROWTH ` WHY? BECAUSE IT HELPS PEOPLE WITH THE COST OF LIVING COMING DOWN. THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN WORK HARD AND GET AHEAD. THAT IS WHY WE FOCUS ON GROWTH, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT LEADS TO HIGHER JOBS, HIGHER INCOMES, GETS PEOPLE MORE MONEY IN THEIR BACK POCKETS OF THEY CAN DEAL WITH THE COST OF LIVING. THAT IS THE MAJOR FOCUS OF OUR GOVERNMENT, AND THAT IS HOW WE MAKE PEOPLE FEEL SAFE ` SAY CAN RAISE THEIR KIDS IN NEW ZEALAND BECAUSE THEY HAVE GOOD EDUCATION AND GOOD HEALTH. WE ARE STRENGTHENING THE ECONOMY, KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE, SO PEOPLE SEE A FUTURE HERE IN NEW ZEALAND, AND THERE IS A FANTASTIC FUTURE HERE. WE HAVE TO GET OUR WAY THROUGH THIS ECONOMIC CYCLE AND GET TO THE OTHER SIDE OF IT AND GET PEOPLE FEELING THEY CAN WORK HARD TO GET AHEAD AND DO WELL FOR THEMSELVES. PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY NOT FEELING THAT, THOUGH, RIGHT, BECAUSE 72,000 CITIZENS LEFT THE COUNTRY LAST YEAR. IT WAS THE LARGEST COHORT ON RECORD IN A CALENDAR YEAR. WHAT IS GOING TO CHANGE IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS THAT WOULD CONVINCE PEOPLE TO STAY HERE IN AOTEAROA? WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS COMING IN VERSUS LEAVING, THAT IS WHEN YOU GET THE 47,000. WE ARE LOOKING AT REBUILDING THE ECONOMY. THERE ARE SOME POSITIVE SIGNS. WE ARE STARTING TO SEE SIGNS ` AGRICULTURE AND TOURISM DOING WELL. IT IS THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE SEEN MANUFACTURING GROWTH. SERVICES GOING. IT IS GOOD BECAUSE IT MEANS MORE MONEY IS GOING INTO THE SYSTEM AND MORE MONEY TO SPEND ON OUR ECONOMY THAT PUTS MONEY INTO PEOPLE'S POCKETS. YOU HAVE SEEN AVERAGE INTEREST RATES FALL ON THE FIRST TIME OF THE LAST TWO MONTHS. WE HAVE SEEN WAGES OVER THE LAST FIVE QUARTERS BEING GREATER THAN COSTS GOING UP. BUT THERE IS A REAL CHALLENGE OF THE COST OF LIVING. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE FOCUSED ON DOING. NOT ONLY ARE KIWIS LEAVING, BUT IMMIGRATION IS ALSO SLOWING. WE HAD 133,000 PEOPLE LEAVE NEW ZEALAND LAST YEAR. SO EVEN FOREIGNERS DO NOT WANT TO STAY IN THIS COUNTRY. IS THIS A SIGN NEW ZEALAND IS BECOMING A LESS ATTRACTIVE PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE? JENNY MAY, I WOULD JUST SAY ON THE STATS ` THERE ARE TWO PARTS OF THIS CONVERSATION TO KEEP IN MIND. ONE IS NET MIGRATION WHICH IS ALL THE PEOPLE COMING IN, THE INFLOWS, AND PEOPLE LEAVING. IT WAS 127,000, WHICH IS HIGH, TOO HIGH. THAT HAS COME BACK TO 27,000 OF WHAT IS CALLED NET MIGRATION. YOU ARE RIGHT ` THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CITIZENS COMING IN TO THE COUNTRY AND OUT OF THE COUNTRY, UP 47,000 THIS YEAR. WE ARE STILL MAKING SURE WE HAVE A GOOD ABILITY TO ATTRACT CAPITAL, GREAT TALENT, GREAT PEOPLE THAT CAN COME TO NEW ZEALAND TO DO THE JOB IS TO ADD TO NEW ZEALAND, THAT WANT TO LIVE HERE, THAT WANT TO MAKE A CONTRIBUTION. CAN I JUST SAY I AM CONSTANTLY INSPIRED BY OUR NEW ZEALANDERS ` THEY LEAVE THEIR COUNTRY, LANGUAGE, FAMILY BEHIND, AND THEY TAKE ONE, TWO, THREE JOBS TO GET A DEPOSIT FOR A HOUSE OR A BUSINESS. THEY WORKED VERY HARD AND GET THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL AND GET EDUCATED... SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. THAT IS NOT WHAT THE CONVERSATION IS ABOUT. IT IS ABOUT 177,900 PEOPLE, BUT DEPARTURES WERE 133,000. PEOPLE ARE STILL LEAVING THIS COUNTRY. KIWIS ARE LEAVING. MIGRANTS ARE LEAVING. IS NEW ZEALAND BECOMING A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE JUST DO NOT WANT TO LIVE? NEW ZEALANDERS BECOMING A REALLY ATTRACTIVE PLACE IN A WORLD THAT IS FULL OF GREAT UNCERTAINTY. JENNY MAY, JUST IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS, YOU ALWAYS HAVE INFLOWS AND UPLOADS OF PEOPLE GOING INTO ANY COUNTRY. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS MAKING SURE WE ARE A REALLY ATTRACTIVE PLACE. IF WE LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE DONE RECENTLY AROUND INVESTOR SETTINGS, FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME TO NEW ZEALAND AND INVEST AND PARTNER WITH A NEW ZEALAND COMPANY, WE HAVE MADE THAT MUCH EASIER. AUSTRALIA IS DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR. WE HAVE FANTASTIC TO PEOPLE WANTING TO COME TO NEW ZEALAND AND INVEST IN NEW ZEALAND AND BE PART OF OUR COUNTRY WHICH IS AWESOME. AS I SAID, THE WORK REALLY AS WE HAD TO LAY UP A FUTURE FOR OUR KIDS AND OUR GRANDKIDS, WHERE THEY ACTUALLY SAY, IF I WORK HARD, I CAN GET AHEAD AND DO WELL. I CAN WALK SAFELY AROUND MY BUSINESS AND HOME AND KNOW EVERYTHING IS UNDER CONTROL. I CAN SEND MY KIDS TO SCHOOL AND GET A GOOD EDUCATION. I KNOW MY PARENTS AND MYSELF WILL HAVE ACCESS TO TIMELY, QUALITY HEALTHCARE. THAT IS THE GOVERNMENT ` WE HAVE SAID THAT FROM DAY ONE, LOWERING THE COST OF LIVING AND RESTORING LAW AND ORDER. I WANT TO MOVE ONTO TOURISM, BECAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE A BIT BRIGHTER. UP 3.3 MILLION VISITOR ARRIVALS LAST YEAR. HOW MUCH MORE GROWTH YOU EXPECT THIS YEAR BUT ALSO, IS THAT REALLY THE BEST WAY TO SPEND $500,000 COME ON THAT SLOGAN? SOME GOOD QUESTIONS AND THERE, JENNY MAY. IT WAS REALLY GOOD. TOURISM, IF YOU REMEMBER, WAS THE NUMBER ONE OR NUMBER TWO SECTOR IN THIS COUNTRY. IT IS A REALLY AWESOME SECTOR, BECAUSE WHILE YOU AND I ARE AT WORK, WHILE KIDS ARE AT SCHOOL, THERE ARE ACTUALLY TOURISTS IN THIS COUNTRY SPENDING MONEY. THEY ARE CREATING JOBS AND MORE JOBS AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE IN NEW ZEALAND, MORE MONEY INTO THEIR POCKETS, SO IT IS A GOOD THING. WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME WORK TO DO TO GET BACK TO WHERE WE WERE PRETTY COVID. THE AUSTRALIAN MARKET IS A BRILLIANT PORT AND MARKET. WE HAVE 1.4 MILLION AUSTRALIANS COME TO VISIT US LAST YEAR ` ABOUT 10%. IT IS EASY TO ACTIVATE PARTICULARLY IN OUR SHOULDER SEASON WHERE WE HAVE SPENT THING SINCE THEIR ROOMS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE AUSTRALIANS PICK NEW ZEALAND AND NOT BARLEY ON THEIR NEXT HOLIDAY. IT IS INTERESTING, JENNY MAY. THERE ARE 27 MILLION AUSTRALIANS. AND LAST YEAR 1.4 MILLION CAME. THIS CAMPAIGN IS DESIGNED TO PUT THEM TOP OF MINE. MIND* THERE IS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE SLOGAN, BUT I THINK IT IS A GREAT THING. MAYBE YOU HAVE SOME IDEAS? I'M JUST NOT SURE IF ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO COME TO NEW ZEALAND BEFORE THEY DIE IS THE RIGHT WAY TO PITCH IT TO THE WORLD. YOUR WORDS, NOT MINE. I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT NEW ZEALAND. THIS IS THE BEST COUNTRY. I WANT EVERYONE WHO HAS IT ON THEIR BUCKET LIST TO CHOOSE US, NOT COSTA RICA OR THAILAND OR BALI. WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS IS $500,000 IN A MARKETING CAMPAIGN OVER THE SHORT COUPLE OF MONTHS ON THE SHOULDER SEASON IS ALSO BEING SUPPORTED BY A LOT OF OUR AIRLINES AND ACCOMMODATION SECTOR WITH A LOT OF GOOD DEALS. IT WILL GENERATE FOR EVERY DOLLAR SPENT ABOUT $18 OF INCOME IN NEW ZEALAND. THAT IS ANOTHER $12.5 MILLION OVER THE SIX TODEALS IT WILL GENERATE FOR EVERY DOLLAR SPENT ABOUT $18 OF INCOME IN NEW ZEALAND. THAT IS ANOTHER $12.5 MILLION OVER THE 68 WEEK PERIOD. IT MEANS MORE MONEY IN THE ECONOMY AND MORE MONEY IN PEOPLE'S BACK POCKETS WHICH HELPS WITH THE COST OF LIVING. I DO FOR LIKE I NEED TO JUST CANVAS VERY VERY QUICKLY THE NEW ZEALAND BORN DAVID KUMAR WHO IS BEING DEPORTED TO A COUNTRY HE HAS NEVER BEEN TO. IS IT FAIR HE HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE SITUATION? THERE ARE TWO THINGS, JENNY MAY ` ONE IS IMMIGRATION OFFICIALS WHO HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR A SOME TIME. THE IMMIGRATION MINISTER WILL HAVE A LOOK AT THAT. IT IS INAPPROPRIATE FOR ME AS THE PRIME MINISTER TO PITCH IN ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS. THE IMMIGRATION MINISTER WILL WORK THROUGH THAT CASE, AND HE NEEDS TIME TO DO THAT. HE WILL RUN UNDER AND MAKE SURE THERE IS A FAIR PROCESS IN PLACE. THE ONLY THING INDEPENDENT OF THAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT NEW ZEALAND HAS BEEN BUILT ON A REALLY RATE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. WE HAVE WELCOMED IMMIGRANTS TO THIS COUNTRY AND THEY HAVE MADE A FANTASTIC CONTRIBUTION. BUT FOR ALL THE NEW ZEALANDERS AND IMMIGRANTS WHO HAVE COME THERE, THEY HAVE FOLLOWED OUR LEGAL PROCESSES. IT IS IMPORTANT WE HAVE LEGAL MIGRATION. IT IS NOT HIS FAULT. IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE FOLLOW THE LAW, AND EVERYONE FOLLOWS THE LAW. BUT I WON'T COMMENT ON THIS CASE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, PRIME MINISTER. THANKS, JENNY MAY. SEE YA. E HAERE AKE NEI ` WHETHER IT'S DINNER FOR TWO OR A FAMILY GATHERING, HOW EATERIES AND BARS ARE ATTEMPTING TO LURE CUSTOMERS. VOICEOVER: Get double data this summer with Skinny mobile. That's double the true crime podcasts. VOICEOVER RADIO: It all started when the car broke down... at two times the summer banger playlists! Skinny has the happiest customers in the summer with double data, they're double happy. Where to from here, New Zealand? To amazing places, places of opportunity, technology, possibility, sustainability, every ability, places that are for all to enjoy ` yeah, everyone. Let's enjoy the path forged by those that came before us but also find new ones, maybe better ones. Life is our journey. Aotearoa ` our magnificent waka. # THERE IS A PARTY DOWNTOWN NEAR FIFTH STREET. HERE'S WHAT'S MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING` COOK ISLANDS PRIME MINISTER MARK BROWN'S ARRIVED HOME AFTER SIGNING A CONTENTIOUS DEAL WITH CHINA, AND MAY FACE PROTESTS OUTSIDE PARLIAMENT TODAY. AN ISRAELI DRONE STRIKE IN SOUTHERN LEBANON HAS KILLED THE HEAD OF HAMAS' MILITARY OPERATIONS THERE, ISRAEL'S ARMY SAYS. AND, THE POPE'S CONDITION HAS WORSENED FROM BRONCHITIS TO A RESPIRATORY TRACT INFECTION, MEANING HE'LL REMAIN IN HOSPITAL LONGER THAN INITIALLY EXPECTED. AT A TIME WHEN THE COST OF LIVING IS STILL A CHALLENGE FOR MANY, THE RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION HAS TAKEN A SNAPSHOT OF HOW WE VIEW DINING OUT. ITS LATEST SURVEY REVEALS MORE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR DISCOUNT DEALS. IT'S ALSO FOUND A RESISTANCE TO NEW TECHNOLOGY, AND INCREASING INTEREST IN ESTABLISHMENTS WHICH SERVE ZERO OR LOW ALCOHOL BEVERAGES. 1 NEWS REPORTER SIMON MERCEP HIT THE STREETS TO GET THE VIBE OF THE PEOPLE. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT HOW PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING WITH THE COST OF LIVING, AND WHETHER, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AFFECTING YOUR OPINION ON WHETHER YOU WILL EVEN GO OUT AT ALL? I THINK IT DOES. YEAH, I THINK IT DOES A LOT. I THINK THAT, YEAH... YOU KNOW, IF YOU STRUGGLE TO PAY YOUR BILLS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GO OUT FOR DINNER. GOING OUT ONCE OR TWICE TO, LIKE, EXPENSIVE ONES IS FINE. I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE AFFORD IT. DO YOU THINK MORE PLACES THESE DAYS ARE ADOPTING MORE MODERN TECHNOLOGY, YOU CAN ORDER MAYBE ON A QR CODE RATHER THAN SPEAKING TO A PERSON. HOW ARE YOU WITH THAT? UM, IT'S HELPFUL, DEFINITELY. BUT SOMETIMES WHEN YOU GO TO A RESTAURANT, YOU DO SOMETIMES GO THERE TO, LIKE, TALK TO THE STAFF THERE AS WELL. I'M ABSOLUTELY FINE WITH IT. MY HUSBAND, ON THE OTHER HAND, CAN NOT STAND IT. IT'S NOT REALLY THAT USER FRIENDLY. AND ALSO, YOU LOSE THE HUMAN TOUCH. NO WE DON'T ` WE ORDER. ASKING THE WAITRESS... AND SIMON JOINS US NOW FROM FIELDS CAFE IN THE AUCKLAND SUBURB OF ALBANY. MORENA, SIMON. GOOD MORNING, CHRIS. I AM HERE IN THE CAFE WITH MARISA FROM THE RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION, CHIEF EXECUTIVE. GOOD MORNING. WE HAVE JUST HEARD FROM AS FEW PUNTERS OUT ON THE STREET. THEIR COMMENTS WERE INTERESTING ABOUT THE COST OF LIVING, BUT THEY WERE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE ISSUE OF MODERN TECHNOLOGY, PEOPLE USING QR CODES, WHAT DOES THIS SO THEY TELL YOU? THE RESEARCH AS QUITE INTERESTING. AND NOT SURPRISING IN SOME WAY. UNDER 35S ARE VERY KEEN ON USING QR CODES AND A HAPPY USING APPLICATIONS TO ORDER, HOWEVER OVER 45'S, THEY PREFER THE PERSONAL TOUCH, A MORE TRADITIONAL APPROACH TO SERVICE AND HAVE A MORE HUMAN INTERACTION IN TERMS OF GETTING THE ORDER. OVERALL, HUMAN INTERACTION AND TRADITIONAL SERVICE ONES. YOU HAVE HAD SOME INTERESTING FEEDBACK ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT HUMAN INTERACTION CAN BE FOR SOME CUSTOMERS? ABSOLUTELY. SOMETIMES IT MIGHT BE THE ONLY PERSON THAT THAT PERSON SPEAKS TO WHEN THEY'RE ORDERING A COFFEE. IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THIS PERSON MIGHT NOT SEE ANYBODY ELSE TODAY, SO STUFF TO MAKE THAT INTERACTION REALLY GOOD. THAT IS AN INTERESTING INFORMATION THAT CAME TO THE SURVEY. THE OTHER TOPIC, AND I GUESS IT IS THE BIG ONE, IS THE ECONOMY AND THE COST OF LIVING. WE KNOW THAT HOSPITALITY BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING. BUT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS. WHAT IS YOUR SURVEY TELL US ABOUT PEOPLE GOING OUT TO EAT? 21% PEOPLE SAID THEY WOULD INCREASE THEIR DINING. THE MAJORITY ARE LOOKING AT PULLING BACK THOUGH. THEY ARE INTERESTED AND DEALS AND DISCOUNTS. ARE CAFE'S OFFERING MORE OF THOSE KINDS OF DEALS? IT IS A TRICKY SITUATION BECAUSE FOOD COSTS HAVE INCREASED. WHERE THEY CAN, THEY WILL BE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE WITH DEALS, PERHAPS COMING IN EARLY FOR DINNER. LOOKING AHEAD TO 2025 ` INTEREST RATES WERE COMING DOWN. WHAT ARE YOU EXPECTING FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR? THERE ARE SOME SIGNS THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO IMPROVE A LITTLE BIT. THE LAST TRADING PERIOD OVER SUMMER WAS TOUGH FOR A LOT OF BUSINESSES, BUT AS I SAID, WE HAVE SEEN POCKETS OF BUSINESS PICKING UP, SO WE ARE HOPEFUL AND OPTIMISTIC AND I THINK THAT IS A GOOD THING FOR THE INDUSTRY. ONE REALLY INTERESTING THING THAT CAME OUT OF YOUR SURVEY, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TREND HAS BEEN BUILDING FOR A WHILE, IS THAT PEOPLE ARE MORE ADJUSTED AND HAVING THE OPTION OF ZERO OR LOW ALCOHOL BEVERAGES? AROUND 21% OF PEOPLE SAID THAT THEY WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE NO ALCOHOL OR LOW ALCOHOL OPTIONS ON THE DRINKS MENU. THIS IS A REALLY GLOBAL PHENOMENON THAT WE ARE SAYING. PEOPLE ARE MORE HEALTH-CONSCIOUS. UNDER 35S ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN THAT AS WELL. DO YOU THINK BUSINESSES WILL RESPOND AND KEEP OFFERING MORE OF THIS? ABSOLUTELY, WE ARE SEEING THAT ALREADY. PEOPLE ARE ORDERING NON-ALCOHOLIC COCKTAILS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHIEF EXECUTIVE OF THE RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. SIMON YOU ARE A MAN OF IMPECCABLE TASTE ` ARE YOU A FAN OF QR CODES? OR WOULD YOU RATHER THAN FACE TO FACE? I LIKE THE FACE-TO-FACE. I HAVE NOTICED A COUPLE OF TIMES LATELY THAT YOU GO UP AND THERE IS A SCREEN YOU CAN USE IT, AND THERE IS A REAL HUMAN BEING STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCREEN, AND YOU THINK, DO I TALK TO THE HUMAN OR IGNORE THE HUMAN AND PUNCH IN THE ORDER. THAT IS TRUE. NICE POINT, SIMON. THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH QR CODES, AS YOU GET TO THE RESTAURANT AND IT SAYS SCAN THE QR CODE TO ORDER, SO THE FIRST THING EVERYBODY DOES IS PULL OUT THEIR PHONE. YOU ARE SITTING DOWN FOR A NICE SMELL, AND THE FIRST THING EVERYBODY DOES IS GO ON THEIR PHONE. I JUST WANT TO TALK TO SOMEONE AND GIVE YOUR ORDER. YOU ARE OLD SCHOOL. HAIR AS ME TELLING YOU THAT YOU ARE OLD SCHOOL. I REMEMBER GOING TO THE UNITED KINGDOM FOR THE COMMONWEALTH GAMES A COUPLE OF HAIRCUTS AGO, AND NOBODY WOULD SERVE YOU. IT WAS JUST QR CODES. INITIALLY, I WAS TAKEN ABACK BY IT, AND I ENDED UP SAYING THAT I WOULD GO NEXT DOOR TO GET A BEER IN PERSON, BUT NO, EVERYTHING WAS ONLINE AGAIN. NOW, I JUST GO, WHAT I PREFER TO SPEAK TO SOMEONE, YES, BUT IT IS NOT THAT HARD. A MURI I NGA WHAKATAIRANGA ` YOUR 7.30 NEWS, SPORT AND WEATHER. LOOK AT YOU, AUCKLAND. SHOWERS BECOMING FEW AND FAR BETWEEN IN THE MORNING AS LONG SUNNY SPELLS DEVELOP. NORTHWESTERLIES. EVERYBODY MUST GO TO AUCKLAND. THE PRIME MINISTER CHALLENGED THE EARLIER SAYING, DO YOU HAVE ANY BETTER SLOGANS? SHOW WE GO TO DUNEDIN? A HIGH OF 23 DEGREES. A FEW SHOWERS, POSSIBLY HEAVY AND THUNDERY FROM AFTERNOON. NORTHEASTERLIES, EASING THIS EVENING. DUNEDIN'S SLOGAN IS, 'A PRETTY GOOD PLAN D.' COOK ISLANDS PRIME MINISTER MARK BROWN RETURNED HOME TO A FROSTY RECEPTION AS CONCERN MOUNTS OVER HIS CHINA DEAL. A MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE HAS BEEN FILED AGAINST HIS GOVERNMENT, WITH PROTESTERS EXPECTED OUTSIDE PARLIAMENT TODAY. 1NEWS PACIFIC CORRESPONDENT BARBARA DREAVER IS IN RAROTONGA AND FILED THIS REPORT. THERE IS A FEELING OF UNCERTAINTY HERE. OF COURSE, THE PRIME MINISTER ARRIVED BACK FROM CHINA YESTERDAY AND PEOPLE ARE STILL UNSURE WHAT EXACTLY WAS HAS BEEN SIGNED. WE KNOW THAT A COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP WILL BE PUT ON THE TABLE AND APPEAR IN PUBLIC, THAT IS WHAT THE PRIME MINISTER SAID. HOWEVER, HE DID SIGN A NUMBER OF MEMORANDUMS OF UNDERSTANDINGS, AND THAT IS WHERE THE UNCERTAINTY LIES, EXACTLY WHAT HAS BEEN SIGNED. A LOT OF THE PROTESTERS WILL BE GATHERING HERE AT PARLIAMENT TODAY. THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY. THIS IS THE FIRST SITTING OF PARLIAMENT HERE IN THE COOK ISLANDS FOR THE YEAR, AND THAT IS WHERE THE PROTESTERS HAVE ARRANGED FOR THIS DAY. A MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE HAS BEEN FILED AGAINST THE PRIME MINISTER. HOWEVER, THERE IS A DELAY TO THAT BECAUSE OF PARLIAMENTARY PROCESSES. HOWEVER, THAT WILL BE HEARD IN THE COMING MONTHS. THERE ARE FEARS YOUNG PEOPLE ARE MISSING OUT ON MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, WITH THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ACCESSING SPECIALIST HELP DROPPING. IN THE YEAR TO JUNE 2024, 3000 FEWER PEOPLE WERE BEING SEEN BY SPECIALISTS, MOSTLY DUE TO STAFFING SHORTAGES IN THE SECTOR. THE MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLBEING COMMISSION SAYS IT'S VERY CONCERNED, AND THE GOVERNMENT MUST URGENTLY ADDRESS THE SHORTAGES. EUROPEAN LEADERS HAVE GATHERED IN PARIS FOR AN EMERGENCY SUMMIT FOCUSED ON UKRAINE. THE MEETINGS WERE HASTILY SCHEDULED TO ADDRESS HOW EUROPE CAN SHORE UP DEFENCES WITHOUT RELYING ON FIREPOWER FROM THEIR TRADITIONAL AMERICAN ALLIES. IT COMES AS RUSSIA AND THE U.S. PREPARE FOR PEACE TALKS IN SAUDI ARABIA, WITH NEITHER UKRAINE NOR EUROPE AT THE TABLE. THE NRLW WARRIORS ARE SET TO MAKE THE WAIKATO THEIR HOME BASE, WITH THREE OF THEIR FIVE HOME MATCHES SCHEDULED AT HAMILTON'S FMG STADIUM. IT COMES AFTER A RECORD CROWD ATTENDED THE WARRIORS' PRE-SEASON TRIAL MATCH AGAINST THE MELBOURNE STORM ON SATURDAY. THE CLUB IS RETURNING TO THE NRLW AFTER A FIVE-YEAR ABSENCE, WITH THEIR SEASON KICKING OFF ON THE 6TH OF JULY. UP THE WAHS. WE HAVE TO SEE THEM SCORE TRIES. THERE WILL BE PLENTY LATER ON IN THE SEASON. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE MARKETS. (GROOVY MUSIC) AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. IT'S LOOKING LIKE ANOTHER GREY DAY. PARTLY CLOUDY FOR MOST OF YOU WITH SCATTERED RAIN FOR MOST AND ISOLATED SHOWERS IN THE NORTH, TURNING MAINLY FINE ON THE EAST COAST. 27 THE HIGH IN AUCKLAND. 29 IN GISBORNE. SIMILAR STORY IN THE SOUTH ISLAND. PACK YOUR BROLLY, THOUGH. RAINY PERIODS FOR MOST OF YOU HERE. THIS WILL EASE TO SHOWERS LATER ON IN CANTERBURY AND MARLBOROUGH. TAKE CARE, THERE IS AN ORANGE HEAVY RAIN WARNING IN PLACE IN THE RANGES OF THE TASMAN DISTRICT NORTHWEST OF MOTUEKA UNTIL 8am TODAY. WORLD TRAVELLERS IS BRINGING YOU OUR NEXT SEGMENT. WORLD TRAVELLERS SPECIALISE IN BREATHTAKING ADVENTURES AND RELAXING GETAWAYS, CREATING A UNIQUE HOLIDAY EXPERIENCE SPECIALLY CRAFTED FOR YOU. HERE TO TELL US ALL ABOUT SOME OF THESE OFFERINGS IS WARREN GRISSELLE FROM WORLD TRAVELLERS. GOOD MORNING. WELCOME TO THE SHOW. WHAT MAKES THIS SUCH A UNIQUE TRAVEL EXPERIENCE? IT IS BECAUSE IT IS TAILOR-MADE. TO TAKE THE DAUNTING TASK AWAY FROM THE CLIENT. IT IS BUILT AROUND THE CLIENTS PACE AND EXPERIENCES AND THEIR BUDGET. WE ARE LOOKING AT SPECIALISED, TAILOR-MADE TRAVEL. TALK TO ME MORE ABOUT THAT AND HOW IT WORKS. THINK OF WAKING UP IN THE MIDDLE OF A LUXURY LODGE OR SWIMMING WITH THE ELEPHANTS. DOING SOME TREKKING THROUGH THE NAMIBIAN DESERTS. THE HISTORY OF THE SPICE ISLANDS AND ZANZIBAR TO CAPE TOWN STANDING ON TOP OF A MOUNTAIN. THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE EXPERIENCES THAT WILL JOURNEYS CAN PUT TOGETHER. WHAT MADE THAT ALL THE BETTER IS THAT YOU DO IT WITH YOUR ACCENT. THAT WAS LEGITIMATELY THE FULL SALES PACKAGE. DID YOU FIND PEOPLE WANT TO DO THAT MORE. AND IS A LOT MORE THAN JUST ORGANISING TO GO ON THE BACK OF A CAR AND GO THROUGH A SAFARI. SOMETIMES WE GET THE QUESTIONS, ARE THERE LINES WALKING AROUND ON THE ROAD? NO, IT IS NOT LIKE THAT. IT IS ALL TO DO WITH CONSERVATION. YOU ARE ABLE TO EXPERIENCE THEM IN THEIR NATURAL HABITATS AND DO IT SAFELY. I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DO A SAFARI. I'VE SPOKEN TO YOUR COLLEAGUE ABOUT CRUISES SAYING THAT THE THOUGHT OF IT ABOUT FAMILY IS TERRIFYING. WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR CRUISE? A SMALLER SHIP. THEY HAVE A VERY NICE FLEET OF FOUR SHIPS, A MAXIMUM OF 700 GUESTS THAT ALLOWS IT TO GET INTO PORTS WITH A BIGGER SHIPS CANNOT. IDEA OF THAT WITH A BIGGER SHIPS SEEMS LESS CLAUSTROPHOBIC. MUCH MORE BOUTIQUE, IT FEELS LIKE YOU'RE PART OF THE FAMILY. YOU HAVE MORE OF A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE GUYS WORKING ON THE SHIP. YOU CAN STILL EXPERIENCE SIX AWESOME RESTAURANTS ON BOARD. YOU CAN GO TO THE BAR OR HAVE A NICE WORKOUT. DESTINATION IMMERSION, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN TRAVEL SPEAK? THEY SPEND A LOT MORE TIME IN THE PORT. THAT ALLOWS YOU AS THE GUEST TO EXPERIENCE THE CULTURE BETTER RELAXED WITHOUT A RUSH AND SPEND MORE TIME AT YOUR DESTINATION. WE HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF VISITING ONE OF THEIR SHIPS A FEW WEEKS BACK. THEY HAVE BEEN IMPORTANT FOR TWO DAYS, WHICH ALLOWS THE GUESTS TO EXPERIENCE NEW ZEALAND AT THE FULLEST WITHOUT HAVING TO RUSH TO GET BACK ON THE SHIP. GO TO THE FISH MARKET IF THEY REALLY WANT TO, AND JUST NICE AND RELAXED, NO RUSH. THANK YOU SO MUCH. LOVELY TO SEE YOU THIS MORNING. THANK YOU, CHRIS. ME U TONU MAI ` OLYMPIC GOLD MEDALLISTS, INTERNATIONAL STARS AND WORLD CHAMPIONS WILL VIE FOR NEW ZEALAND'S TOP SPORTING ACCOLADES TONIGHT. NEXT, WHO ARE THE FAVOURITES FOR THE HALBERGS? (COLDPLAY'S 'VIVA LA VADA') HERE IS WHAT IS MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING. COOK ISLANDS PRIME MINISTER MARK BROWN HAS RETURNED HOME TO A FROSTY RECEPTION AS CONCERN MOUNTS OVER HIS DEAL WITH CHINA. THERE ARE FEARS YOUNG PEOPLE ARE MISSING OUT ON MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, WITH THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ACCESSING SPECIALIST HELP DROPPING. AND THE NRLW WARRIORS ARE SET TO MAKE THE WAIKATO THEIR HOME BASE, WITH THREE OF THEIR FIVE HOME MATCHES SCHEDULED AT HAMILTON'S FMG STADIUM. IT'S THE FANCIEST EVENT ON THE NEW ZEALAND SPORTING CALENDAR TONIGHT ` THE HALBERG AWARDS, WHERE ATHLETES SWAP LYCRA FOR THEIR NUMBER ONES. HERE TO TAKE US THROUGH THE CONTENDERS IS SPORTS REPORTER MICHELLE PRENDIVILLE. MORENA, MICHELLE. LOOKING AT THE LIST OF FINALISTS, ESPECIALLY IN OLYMPIC YEAR, THIS HAS TO BE THE MOST COMPETITIVE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LIST, IT IS ACTUALLY INSANE. I DO NOT KNOW HOW THE JUDGES ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PICK THE WINNER. WE HAVE TO RENDER THAT WE ARE COMING OFF THE BACK OF AN OLYMPIC YEAR WHEN IT WAS OUR MOST GOLDEN GAMES, WE WON THE MOST GOLD MEDALS WE HAVE EVER WON. THERE ARE A LOT OF CHAMPIONS ON THAT LIST. LOOKING AT THE WOMAN'S FIELD, HOW DO YOU SEPARATE LYDIA KO WHO WON THAT GOLD MEDAL? SHE WAS ALSO INDUCTED INTO THE SPORTING HALL OF FAME, AND THEN WON A MAJOR. HOW DO YOU SEPARATE HER FROM LISA CARRINGTON, WHO AGAIN WON THREE GOLD MEDALS AT AN OLYMPIC GAMES? THE GOAT ON A BOAT. YOU ALSO HAVE THE LIKES OF ELISSE ANDREWS. AND THEN THERE IS AMELIA KERR, EMMA KERR. DO YOU GUYS HAVE A PICK FOR THE WOMEN'S SECTION? I WOULD PICK LYDIA KO BECAUSE OF WHAT SHE IS DOING ON THE WORLD STAGE. LISA CARRINGTON, IF ANYONE IS GOING TO BEAT LYDIA, IT WILL BE LISA. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE MEN'S CATEGORY. THAT WOULD BE MY PACK AS WELL. IN THE MEN'S CATEGORY, YOU HAVE JAMES MCDONALD, A JOCKEY. AT SCENES IN THE PAST THE JOCKEYS HAVE BEEN OVERLOOKED, AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE IN THE TEAM CATEGORY, TEAM NEW ZEALAND, THE WHITE FERNS, WHO OUT OF NOWHERE WON THE WORLD CUP, YOU HAVE THE ROWING. THERE IS HEAPS GOING ON. THE PICTURES THAT YOU ARE SEEING AT THE MEN'S GROUP, THOUGH. WE WILL GO BACK TO THE MEN'S. YOU ALSO TALKING ABOUT CHRIS WARD YESTERDAY WHEN HE SCORED HIS 18TH PREMIER LEAGUE GOAL. HAYDEN WILD AS WELL, THERE IS A LOT IN THE MEN'S CATEGORY. THANKFULLY WE CAN LEAVE THOSE TO A JUDGING PANEL, BUT THERE IS A CATEGORY WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN VOTE, AND THAT'S SPORTING MOMENT OF THE YEAR. WHAT'S YOUR PICK, MICHELLE? YOU MUST HAVE ONE FROM PARIS, SURELY. I DO. I MAY BE A LITTLE BIASED OF THE SPORTING MOMENT, BUT TAKE A LOOK AND SEE IF YOU REMEMBER THIS MOMENT FROM PARIS. HE HAS GOT STADE DE FRANCE WILLING HIM ON. HE'S GOT NEW ZEALAND BEHIND HIM, BUT CAN HE GET THE GOLD? YES, HE CAN! (CHEERING, APPLAUSE) HE'S RUNNING A LAP OF HONOUR. HE'S RUNNING A LAP OF HONOUR RIGHT NOW. HAMISH KERR, HE'S DONE IT. HE'S AN OLYMPIC CHAMPION. HAMISH KERR FOR NEW ZEALAND. I THINK THE ONLY PERSON THAT WAS SCREAMING LOUDER THAN THE COMMENTATOR AT THE TIME WAS YOU. YOU WERE THERE, WON'T YOU? I WAS, I HAD MY NEW ZEALAND FLAG. I WAS IN THE MEDIA SECTION. COME ON, THAT WAS OUR FIRST HIGH JUMP GOLD MEDAL IN THE OLYMPICS EVER IN NEW ZEALAND HISTORY. I THOUGHT THAT HAMISH COULD SEE ME IN THE MEDIA BOX, THERE WERE PROBABLY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. YOU EVEN WAITED OUTSIDE THE STADIUM FOR HOW MANY HOURS BEFORE HE CAME OUT AFTERWARDS TO DO THE INTERVIEWS? THEY HAD DRUG TESTING, THEY ALSO HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE. I THINK BY THE TIME WE GOT HAMISH WAS 1230, 1 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. IT WAS INSANE. THE POOR GUY WAS KNACKERED. BY THE TIME YOU TALK TO NEW ZEALAND MEDIA, HE MUST'VE BEEN THINKING, CAN I PLEASE GO TO SLEEP? THAT HAS TO BE MY FAVOURITE SPORTING MOMENT. THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHERS. PEOPLE CAN PRETTY MUCH VOTE RIGHT UP UNTIL THE NIGHT, SO THAT VOTING SECTION IS STILL OPEN. ANOTHER KEY MOMENT THAT YOU CAN VOTE ON AS ANNA GRIMALDI WHO WON THE PARALYMPICS ONLY GOLD MEDAL. A LOT OF EXCITING THINGS. IT WILL BE A REALLY HARD NIGHT TONIGHT SHALL WE PIVOT TO THE COUNTDOWN FOR THE FORMULA ONE SEASON? AND THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF EASTER EGGS DROPPED THIS WEEK. JUST OVERNIGHT, RED BULL RACING, WHO LIAM LAWSON IS RACING FOR, ALONGSIDE MAX, HAVE PUT OUT SOME NEW VIDEOS DETAILING THE NEW CAT. SOME PEOPLE MIGHT THINK, I WENT IS JUST SOME NEW KIT, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE SEEN THEM TOGETHER. SOME OF THE COMMENTS ON THE INSTAGRAM POST SAY, THE DUTCH AND KIWI LOOK REALLY GOOD, THIS COMBO WAS EXCITING. THERE IS A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS TEAM, WITH MAX BEING A FOUR-TIME CHAMPION AND YOU HAVE OUR LITTLE KIWI ALONGSIDE HIM. WE ACTUALLY HAD OUR 1 NEWS SPORTS REPORTER CATCH UP WITH LIAM JUST BEFORE HE WENT OVERSEAS AND BEFORE ALL OF THE CIRCUS HAS BEEN HAPPENING. ZION TALKED TO LIAM ABOUT THE EXCITEMENT FROM KIWI FANS. HERE IS WHAT LIAM HAD TO SAY ` EVERYBODY'S JUST EXCITED, AND I FEEL THAT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE GUYS WHO ARE WATCHING, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE IN NEW ZEALAND THAT ARE MOTORSPORT FANS. I CAN SEE THAT IT'S EXCITING FOR EVERYBODY TO BE IN THIS POSITION. FOR ME, OBVIOUSLY, IT'S MY LIFE GOAL TO BE IN THIS POSITION, BUT I WOULD SAY I'VE HAD A LOT MORE OF PEOPLE SAYING, 'CONGRATS. WE'RE EXCITED FOR YOU,' RATHER THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, A FAN MOMENT OR BEING EXCITED. IT'S JUST, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SUPER COOL WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND EXCITED TO WATCH. TOMORROW IS THE BIG DATE ON A LOT OF PEOPLE'S CALENDARS IN F1, AND THAT IS THE SEASON LAUNCH. IT IS NOT GOING TO BE THE ACTUAL RACE CARS THAT ARE AT THIS LAUNCH, THEY ARE PROTOTYPES. IT SEEMS LIKE SOME OF THE TEAMS WILL BE SELLING OFF THESE CARS SO THEY WILL PROBABLY MAKE BIG BUCKS. WE ARE COUNTING DOWN. LESS THAN A MONTH UNTIL THE FIRST GRAND PRIX WHICH IS IN MELBOURNE, SO A LOT OF EXCITING KIWI FANS WILL BE HEADING OVER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BEFORE LIAM WAS RACING GO-KARTS AGAINST ZION ON BREAKFAST, MICHELLE WAS DOING STORIES WITH HIM. SHE GOES WAY BACK. MICHELLE LIVE FOR US IN THE STUDIO. I AM JUST LOOKING AT THE CATEGORY FOR WHAT YOU CAN VOTE ON. MOMENT OF THE YEAR. I DO RENDER CRYING WHEN THE SEVEN SISTERS WON GOLD. WE WERE WAITING. IT WAS A VERY SLOW START FOR NEW ZEALAND. THAT WAS MY FAVOURITE NIGHT AT THE OLYMPICS. IT WAS A GREAT MORNING ON BREAKFAST, WASN'T IT? THEY WON WRITER'S BREAKFAST WAS STARTING. WE SAW ALL THE FANS, AND THEN BY THE END OF THE SHOW, ALL THE PLAYERS CAME ON. IT WAS THE BEST FEELING. YOU HAVE JUST WON THE GOLD MEDAL. SILVER IS STILL GOOD, JENNY MAY. E WHAI AKE NEI ` MATT GIBB'S WORKING HARD IN ROTORUA THIS MORNING. IS HE? GOOD MORNING FROM A SLIGHTLY MOIST MORNING IN ROTORUA. MORE FROM REDWOODS TREE WALK RIGHT AFTER THE BREAK. (UPBEAT MUSIC) THIS SEGMENT IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY ROTORUA, NZ. ROTORUA IS THE ULTIMATE DESTINATION FOR RELAXATION, AND THIS WEEK MATT GIBB HAS HEADED TO ROTORUA TO CHECK OUT SOME OF THE EXPERIENCES THAT ARE ON OFFER. TO CHECK OUT SOME OF THE EXPERIENCES THAT ARE ON OFFER. I HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE. IT IS BEAUTIFUL. THIS IS THE HIGHLIGHT OF ANY TRIP TO ROTORUA. THE REDWOODS. I AM 20 M OFF THE GROUND IN THE CANOPY OF THESE MAJESTIC TREES. IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE GOT TO TRY IF YOU ARE MAKING YOUR WAY ON A ROAD TRIP, OR AS I AM THIS WEEK, ON A ROBE TRIP. WE ARE CHECKING OUT SOME OF THE EXPERIENCES THAT YOU COULD BE HAVING A FEW WHEN OUR PRIZE THIS WEEK ON BREAKFAST. ONE EXPERIENCE, THE MOST RELAXING AND REJUVENATING THAN YOU CAN POSSIBLY DO. A BEAUTIFUL HOT SPRING. I GOT TO GO YESTERDAY. THERE IS NO BETTER PLACE TO START A ROTORUA ROAD TRIP THAN RIGHT HERE AT WAIARIKI HOT SPRINGS AND SPA. KIA ORA. YOU MUST BE DEB. YEAH, I AM. LOVELY ROBE. YOU LOOK FABULOUS IN YOUR ROBE TOO. SO DO YOU. # PO KARE KARE ANA... MATT, WELCOME TO WAIARIKI. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I HAD TO MAKE WAIARIKI THE FIRST STOP ON MY MY ROBE TRIP. BEAUTIFUL. I'VE BEEN MEANING TO COME HERE FOR SO LONG, EVER SINCE YOU OPENED. BUT TELL ME ABOUT THE IDEA BEHIND WAIARIKI. IT WAS A VISION FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TO BE ABLE TO OPEN A FACILITY LIKE THIS. WE ARE IWI-OWNED AND WE OWNED BY THE NGATI WHAKAUE TRIBE. SO WE'RE SO SUPER PROUD OF WAIARIKI AND WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE HERE FOR OUR GUESTS. WE HAVE A MIXTURE OF POOLS AND SAUNAS AND MUD AND STEAM. AND BEING MAORI-OWNED, OUR MAORI CULTURE IS SOMETHING SPECIAL. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE LIKE THIS IN THE WORLD. NO, IT IS VERY, VERY UNIQUE. IF I WAS TO COME HERE, MAYBE WITH SOMEONE ELSE ON A ROMANTIC LITTLE ROAD TRIP, WHAT WOULD I EXPERIENCE COMING TO WAIARIKI? OUR MAIN EXPERIENCE WE HAVE IS WAI WHAKAORA. SO, IT'S A TWO HOUR EXPERIENCE. SO WHEN YOU FIRST ARRIVE, WE'LL GO TO THE MAORI STONE AND CONDUCT A KARAKIA TO CLEANSE YOU BEFORE YOU COME THROUGH ON YOUR JOURNEY. YOU'LL GO THROUGH A SERIES OF CLEANSING WATERFALLS, THEN THROUGH OUR SAUNAS. THEN WE MOVE OUT ON TO THE FRONT CONCOURSE, ALL OF OUR BEAUTIFUL POOLS HERE OVERLOOKING LAKE ROTORUA AND THEN MOVING INTO OUR MUD ROOM. APPLY MUD TO YOUR BODY. HAVE IT SET FROM THE HEAT LAMPS ABOVE, AND THEN WE MOVE IN TO A BEAUTIFUL, LARGE STEAM ROOM. WHO ARE YOU SEEING COMING THROUGH AND ENJOYING WAIARIKI? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE CHILDREN ALLOWED IN THE FACILITY, IT'S 16 AND OVER, IT'S GREAT FOR FRIENDS, FOR THOSE THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT, OTHERS THAT WANT TO COME THROUGH AND THEN JUST CONNECT WHILE YOU'RE HERE.ALL I CAN IT IS ONE PLACE WHERE YOU CAN COME HERE AND BE AT PEACE AT ROTORUA, WE'RE SPOILT FOR CHOICE. THERE'S SO MANY THINGS TO SEE AND DO, AND WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT IS OUR CULTURE IS WEAVED THROUGH, THE CULTURAL INFUSION. WE'VE BEEN BROUGHT UP AROUND THE HEALING WATERS, AND TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT NOW WITH OTHER PEOPLE. WHAT A START OF THE TRIP. I THINK I COULD RELAX INTO IT AND SEND A COUPLE OF WEEKS RIGHT HERE. THE HOT SPRINGS AND SPA, A BEAUTIFUL EXPERIENCE. WHEN YOU COULD BE HAVING A FEW INTER-AND WHEN OUR PRIZE. INTO THE WEBSITE AND GET YOURSELF IN THE DRAW TO WIN. SOME OF THE AMAZING EXPERIENCES ON OFFER INCLUDE HEADING TO HELLS GATE. PLENTY TO DO. I WILL BE CHATTING TO DANNY FROM THE REDWOODS TREE WALK EXPERIENCE COMING UP A LITTLE BIT LATER ON THE SHOW AND SHOWING YOU ALL OF THE AMAZING THINGS THIS WEEK YOU CAN DO AT ROTORUA. I HAVE NOT BEEN THERE YET. BUT EVERYTHING I HAVE HEARD ABOUT IT, AMAZING. STILL TO COME ON THE SHOW THIS MORNING ` THE IMPORTANCE OF KNOWING CPR. WHY HATO HONE ST JOHN IS PUSHING FOR MORE PEOPLE TO LEARN. AI IS INCREASINGLY DELIVERING US ANSWERS TO OUR ONLINE QUERIES, BUT HOW WELL DOES IT UNDERSTAND SUPPRESSION RULES? PLUS, ATTENTION ALL SHIRLEYS. A CHRISTCHURCH CLUB FOR PEOPLE NAMED SHIRLEY IS CELEBRATING ITS 25th BIRTHDAY. I LOVE THIS. AND BEFORE YOU ASK, YES, WE ARE SERIOUS. CANNOT WAIT FOR THAT INTERVIEW. IT'S 8 O'CLOCK. HERE'S THE NEWS. COOK ISLANDS PRIME MINISTER MARK BROWN IS BACK HOME AFTER SIGNING A CONTENTIOUS DEAL WITH CHINA. 1 NEWS PACIFIC CORRESPONDENT BARBARA DREAVER WAS BARRED FROM ATTENDING HIS PRESS CONFERENCE, WITH BROWN MAKING HIS DISPLEASURE CLEAR. HOW IS CHINA, PRIME MINISTER? HI, BARB. I DO NOT WANT TO TALK TO YOU. YOU WILL DO ANOTHER HATCHET JOB ON ME. WINSTON PETERS SAYS HE'LL BE CONSIDERING THE AGREEMENT CAREFULLY ONCE THE FULL DETAILS ARE RELEASED. THE PRIME MINISTER IS DEFENDING THE GOVERNMENT'S LATEST TOURISM CAMPAIGN, DESPITE THE PRICE TAG. DUBBED 'EVERYONE MUST GO', IT'S AIMED AT GETTING AUSTRALIANS OVER THE TASMAN, BUT WILL COST TAXPAYERS $500,000. LABOUR AND THE GREENS SAY THE MONEY SHOULD GO TOWARDS TOURISM INFRASTRUCTURE AND WALKING TRACKS INSTEAD. BUT CHRISTOPHER LUXON BELIEVES IT IS MONEY WELL SPENT. THAT $500,000 INVESTMENT IN A MARKETING CAMPAIGN OVER A SHORT COUPLE OF MONTHS IN THE SHOULDER SEASON IS ALSO BEING SUPPORTED BY A LOT OF OUR AIRLINES AND ACCOMMODATION SECTOR WITH GOOD DEALS. SO WE WILL GENERATE FOR EVERY DOLLAR SPENT ABOUT $18 WORTH OF INCOME INTO NEW ZEALAND. THE CAMPAIGN IS SET TO LAUNCH ON THURSDAY AND RUN FOR A MONTH. A LARGE VEGETATION FIRE IN PORT WAIKATO IS NOW CONSIDERED CONTAINED. A CREW ARRIVED THIS MORNING TO ASSESS THE FIRE AFTER FAVOURABLE WEATHER CONDITIONS OVERNIGHT. THE AFFECTED AREA COVERS 3ha. FIRE AND EMERGENCY NEW ZEALAND SAY ALTHOUGH IT IS CONTAINED, IT IS NOT YET FULLY EXTINGUISHED. TAURANGA MAYOR MAHE DRYSDALE'S SAYS HE WILL FULFIL HIS CAMPAIGN PROMISE TO LIVE PERMANENTLY IN THE CITY. DRYSDALE, WHO'S BEEN IN THE ROLE SEVEN MONTHS, TOLD 1 NEWS FINDING HOUSING FOR HIS FAMILY IS THE MAIN ISSUE. OBVIOUSLY, THAT WAS MY INTENTION. AS I SAY, I'M NOT GOING TO MOVE MY FAMILY UNTIL WE'VE FOUND A SUITABLE PLACE TO LIVE. YES, I UNDERESTIMATED HOW HARD THAT WOULD BE. DRYSDALE SAYS HIS CURRENT FOCUS IS ON DEVELOPING TAURANGA'S ANNUAL PLAN. TO SPORT, AND THE BLACKCAPS ARE ENJOYING A STRONG RUN OF FORM AS THEY PREPARE FOR THE CHAMPIONS TROPHY. NEW ZEALAND WILL TAKE ON HOSTS PAKISTAN IN THE TOURNAMENT OPENER TOMORROW. MEANWHILE, KANE WILLIAMSON HAS SIGNED ON WITH MIDDLESEX FOR THE UPCOMING COUNTY CHAMPIONSHIP AND THE T20 BLAST IN THE UK. LET'S HAVE A LOOK AT WHAT THE WEATHER IS DOING AT YOUR PLACE TODAY. IT'S LOOKING LIKE ANOTHER GREY DAY. PARTLY CLOUDY FOR MOST OF YOU WITH SCATTERED RAIN FOR MOST AND ISOLATED SHOWERS IN THE NORTH, TURNING MAINLY FINE ON THE EAST COAST. 27 THE HIGH IN AUCKLAND. 29 IN GISBORNE. SIMILAR STORY IN THE SOUTH ISLAND. PACK YOUR BROLLY, THOUGH. RAINY PERIODS FOR MOST OF YOU HERE. THIS WILL EASE TO SHOWERS LATER ON IN CANTERBURY AND MARLBOROUGH. 26 FOR CHRISTCHURCH. QUEENSTOWN GETTING TO A HIGH OF 23 DEGREES. THANKS, CHRIS. DO YOU KNOW HOW TO PERFORM CPR? ST JOHN ARE CALLING FOR MORE NEW ZEALANDERS TO LEARN, FOLLOWING THE 'OUT-OF-HOSPITAL CARDIAC ARREST LATEST REPORT' OUT TODAY, REVEALING A RISE. MORE THAN 2500 PEOPLE WERE TREATED FOR CARDIAC ARREST IN THE PAST YEAR. THAT'S A 3.6% INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR, AND A BIGGER JUMP OF 15% IN FIVE YEARS. OF THE CASES IN THE PAST YEAR, 72% OCCURRED AT HOME. LUCY BENDELL IS HERE TO REMIND US JUST HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO KNOW HOW TO PERFORM CPR. THIS IS SUCH A GOOD SEGMENT. GOOD MORNING, LUCY. MORENA, JENNY-MAY. I AM INSIDE AMBULANCE SERVICE CENTRE HERE IN AUCKLAND THIS MORNING, AND THAT REPORT IS A STARK REMINDER OF THE IMPORTANCE OF AGE, BEING ABLE TO RECOGNISE THE SIGNS OF A CARDIAC ARREST, AND BEING ABLE TO PERFORM WITH CONFIDENCE CPR. WE ARE GOING TO BRING IN DAMIEN. YOU ARE THE DEPUTY CHIEF EXECUTIVE OF THE CLINICAL SERVICES HERE AT ST JOHN. WE HAVE JUST HEARD THAT TWO AND A HALF-DOZEN PEOPLE WERE SAVED BY CPR. THEY HAVE HAD A CARDIAC ARREST. THIS IS A BIG JUMP THAT PEOPLE ARE LEARNING TO PERFORM CPR. IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. THE REPORT TELLS US THAT YOU ARE THREE TIMES MORE LIKELY TO SURVIVE A CARDIAC ARREST IF SOMEBODY PERFORM CPR BEFORE THE AMBULANCE ARRIVES. AND YOU ARE ALSO TWICE AS LIKELY TO SURVIVE IF SOMEONE USES A DIFFERENT VIEW LATER ON YOU. ANOTHER PART OF THE REPORT TONIGHT IS A 72% OF CARDIAC ARREST ACTUALLY OCCURRED AT HOME. HOW IMPORTANT IS IT THAT PEOPLE LEARN HOW TO PERFORM CPR AND DO THAT FIRST AID TRAINING? I THINK THAT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT, BECAUSE IF YOUR VIEWERS ARE UNLUCKY ENOUGH TO WITNESS A CARDIAC ARREST, IT IS LIKELY TO BE AT HOME AND WITH A LOVED ONE. WHILE WE ALWAYS WANT TO DO OUR BEST FOR OUR LOVED ONES, THESE THINGS CAN HAPPEN REALLY RANDOMLY. YOU MIGHT BE COOKING ON THE EXERCISE BIKE. YOU MIGHT BE LYING ON THE SOFA, AND YOU CAN STOP BREATHING. OR YOU MIGHT HAVE SYMPTOMS OF A HEART ATTACK. CARDIAC ARREST NORMALLY FOLLOW SOMETIMES OF A HEART ATTACK. SOMEONE WHO EXPERIENCED THIS, SURVIVOR OF A CARDIAC ARREST AT HOME, AS MARK ROBERTS. TELL ME AND GIVE ME A QUICK REFLECTION OF THE DAY THAT YOUR CARDIAC ARREST HAPPENED. I JUST GOT HOME AND HAD DINNER AND THOUGHT I WOULD HAVE A SHOWER. WHILE I WAS IN THE SHOWER, I HAD A BIT OF CHEST DISCOMFORT. I DID NOT THINK MUCH OF IT. MAYBE A HEART ATTACK MAY BE, BUT NO REAL SYMPTOMS. I LAY DOWN ON THE FLOOR AND ASKED MY WIFE TO CALL AN AMBULANCE BECAUSE NOTHING GOT BETTER. IT DID NOT REALLY GET WORSE, BUT IT DID NOT GET BETTER. I THOUGHT, I HAD BETTER PUT SOME PANTS ON IN CASE THE AMBULANCE STAFF TURN UP AND THEY ARE ALL LADIES. WHAT HAPPENED AT THE HOSPITAL? THEY DID PERFORM CPR ON YOU. THEY PUT THE DEFIB ON ME AS WELL. MY WIFE PUT A TRAVEL PILLOW UNDER MY HEAD, AND MY HEART SUDDENLY STOPPED. I REMEMBER HEARING THE ADVANCED PARAMEDIC CALLING CODE RED, AND ME THINKING THAT SOME UNLUCKY PERSON WAS IN TROUBLE. AND THAT WAS ME. THE SIGN STARTED AT HOME. HOW IMPORTANT WAS ABOUT YOURSELF AND YOUR WIFE COULD RECOGNISE THOSE SIGNS TO BE ABLE TO KNOW TO CALL 111? I WAS THANKFUL THAT MY WIFE HAD HAD ST JOHN'S TRAINING PREVIOUSLY. SHE WAS A BIT WORRIED HAVING NECKED SURGERY THAT SHE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO DO CPR IF THEY DID NOT TURN UP ON TIME. THANKFULLY THEY DID. IT IS ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT. WHAT WOULD YOUR MESSAGE BETTER PEOPLE WATCHING AT HOME WHO HAD NOT HAD THE FIRST AID TRAINING AND ARE THINKING OF DOING IT? IT IS OFTEN OUR LOVED ONES. JUST GO AND DO IT. GET IT DONE. AS I SAID, THANKFULLY MY WIFE DID NOT NEED TO DO IT, BUT IF YOU NEED TO DO IT, IT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. IT IS A VERY STRONG MESSAGE. THANK YOU FOR SHARING. I WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET THAT TRAINING. TELL ME A BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. BEFORE I ANSWER THAT QUESTION, DO YOU MIND IF I JUST GO TO THE SYMPTOMS OF A HEART ATTACK FIRST? I THINK IT IS REALLY CRITICAL. MARX FAMILY DID EVERYTHING RIGHT. THEY NOTICED HE WAS HAVING A HEART ATTACK. IT IS OFTEN CENTRAL CHEST DISCOMFORT, SQUEEZE OR PRESSURE. YOU CAN FEEL QUITE RECKLESS. YOU MIGHT BE DIZZY AND HAVE PALPITATIONS OR FEEL CLAMMY AND UNWELL. THAT IS WHEN YOU CALL 111. IF SOMEONE DOES STOP BREATHING, KEEP YOUR PHONE ON SPEAKER. WE WILL GUIDE YOU THROUGH. TO ACCESS TRAINING, GO TO OUR WEBSITE. WE HAVE THREE STEPS FOR LIFE PROGRAM, AND IT IS FREE TO EVERYBODY TO TAKE. WE ALSO HAVE DEFIBS AVAILABLE FOR COMMUNITY GROUPS AND ORGANISATIONS IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ONE. WE ALSO RUN A SCHOOL PROGRAM. IT IS LIKELY THAT OUR CHILDREN HAVE ALREADY BEEN TRAINED, EVEN THE LITTLE ONES. FROM A RATE THEY CAN USE A DEFIB. TRAINING IS FOR EVERYBODY. I DID MY FIRST AID TRAINING NOT LONG AGO, AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS TO DO FOR ADULTS AND FOUR CHILDREN. FOR THE REALLY SMALL CHILDREN, WE JUST WANT THEM TO RECOGNISE AS AN EMERGENCY AND TO CALL 111. THEY COULD BE FLAGGING THE AMBULANCE AT THE MAILBOX. BUT FROM YEAR EIGHT, IT IS FULL ON RECOGNISING AND CALLING 111, STARTING THE CHEST COMPRESSIONS, AND USING A DEFIB. WE WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE NEAREST ONE IS. WE ARE PUTTING THEM MORE AND MORE IN THE COMMUNITY. MY FINAL QUESTION FOR YOU IS WHAT ARE SOME MYTHS? I KNOW YOU HEAR CERTAIN SONGS THAT YOU SHOULD BE PERFORMING AT TWO IN YOUR HEAD WHILE YOU ARE FOR PERFORMING THE CPR. WHAT ARE SOME TIPS FOR PEOPLE TO REMEMBER? I THINK THE BIGGEST MYTH IS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO GET IT WRONG. YOU THINK THEY ARE ALREADY DEAD. IF YOU ATTEMPT CPR, YOU MIGHT SAVE A LIFE. IT IS IMPORTANT TO ACCESS THE TRAINING. AND KEEP YOUR PHONE ON SPEAKER SO WE CAN GUIDE YOU THROUGH. WE HAVE DEVELOPED A STRATEGY TO TRY AND IMPROVE OUR SURVIVAL RATES. WE ARE LOOKING AT PROVIDING TRAINING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, MAKING DEFIBS AVAILABLE. MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE TRAINED TO OUR PRACTICE, MAKING SURE OUR SYSTEMS ARE RECOGNISED EARLY, AND PEOPLE LIKE MARK WHO ARE IN CARDIAC ARREST, AND WE DISPATCH THAT FIRST RESPONDER REALLY QUICKLY AND ALSO WE NEED TO PARTNER WITH OUR EMERGENCY SERVICE COLLEAGUES, HEALTH SERVICES AND COMMUNITIES, BECAUSE WE CANNOT DO THIS BY OURSELVES. THIS IS A COMMUNITY EFFORT. I WANT TO SEE THAT STRATEGY LEFT OUR SURVIVAL RATES OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. IT IS SO VITAL FOR PEOPLE AT HOME TO GO AND GET THEIR FIRST AID TRAINING, LEARN ALL OF THE TIPS TO PERFORM CPR WITH CONFIDENCE. AND KNOWING WHERE THE DEFIBS ARE. NICE, LUCY. THAT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT CONVERSATION THAT YOU HAVE JUST HAD. I HAVE GONE ON TO FIND OUT IF THERE IS A DEFIB NEAR ME, AND THERE ARE A COUPLE. HE WAS BORN CASSIUS CLAY, WENT BY MUHAMMAD ALI. BUT MOST PEOPLE JUST CALLED HIM THE GREATEST. THE LEGENDARY BOXER AND SOCIAL ACTIVIST VISITED NEW ZEALAND BACK IN 1979, VISITING SCHOOLS AND EVEN THE HERETAUNGA BOXING CLUB IN LOWER HUTT. ON TODAY'S LOOK BACK IN TO THE TVNZ ARCHIVE, HERE'S HOW REPORTER KAREN SIMS COVERED THE VISIT. THE ROAR OF A CROWD IS MUHAMMAD ALI'S FAVOURITE SOUND. I GOT A MESSAGE FOR ALL OF YOU. GO TO COLLEGE AND GET SOME KNOWLEDGE. STAY THERE UNTIL YOU'RE THROUGH. IF THEY CAN MAKE PENICILLIN OUT OF MOULDY BREAD, THEY CAN SURE MAKE SOMETHING OUT OF YOU. (CROWD CHUCKLES) BUT MUCH OF HIS LIFE IS A PARADOX. AT 6.30 IN THE MORNING, THE CROWD THAT HE LOVES TO THRILL ARE STILL ASLEEP. TO BE A TOP BOXER MEANS LONG, LONELY HOURS OF HARD SLOG. AND TO RUN ALONGSIDE MUHAMMAD ALI IS FOR ONCE, TO FEEL EQUAL WITH HIM. THERE'S NOTHING LIKE SWEAT AND PUFF TO HUMBLE THE GREAT. HEY, HEY! BUT BACK IN THE COMFORT OF HIS HOTEL, ALI OFTEN APPEARED TO FORGET THAT IT'S AS AN ATHLETE THAT HE'S FAMOUS. THE LADIES HAVE, THE FLOWERS, THEY'RE SO PRETTY. SOMETIMES IT TOOK DRASTIC ACTION TO MAKE HIM TALK ABOUT BOXING. I NEVER` I NEVER SAW... HE SAYS, TALK, TALK, TALK FIGHT TALK. HE'S TALKING ABOUT TALKING FIGHT. FIGHT TALK FIGHT. HE'S ONE OF THE PROMOTERS TRYING TO GET HIS MONEY BACK. TALK FIGHT TALK. HE SENDS ME A LETTER, SAYS 'TALK FIGHT TALK'. I WANT YOU ALL TO SEE HOW THEY TRY TO DO US, HOW THEY TRY TO PUSH US LIKE ANIMALS. 'TALK FIGHTING'. HE AIN'T WORRIED ABOUT GOD. HE DON'T CARE ABOUT HOW CLEAN THE COUNTRY IS. ALL HE WANT IS SOME MONEY. 'TALK FIGHT TALK.' HE MAY BE THE GREATEST, BUT HE STILL HAS NORMAL WEAKNESSES, AND ONE OF THEM IS FOOD. HE PARTICULARLY LIKES CHILLI, FRIED CHICKEN, SPAGHETTI, PANCAKES WITH SYRUP AND APPLE CRUMBLE. ALI'S ADHERENCE TO THE MUSLIM FAITH MEANS HE CANNOT EAT PORK, WHITE BREAD AND SOME TYPES OF VEGETABLES, SO HE HAS HIS OWN COOK WHO TRAVELS EVERYWHERE WITH HIM. LANA SHABAZZ HAS BECOME FAMILIAR WITH MANY HOTEL KITCHENS SINCE SHE STARTED COOKING FOR ALI DURING THE 60s. SINCE SHE STARTED COOKING FOR ALI DURING THE '60s. AIN'T NOTHING LIKE THE ISLAMIC BROTHERHOOD. THAT'S WHY I'M WHERE I'M AT TODAY. BECAUSE OF ALLAH, THE ARABIC TERM FOR GOD. A-L-L-A-H. ALLAH. ALLAH, ISLAM RELIGION AND THE MUSLIM TEACHINGS IS WHAT MADE ME. IF I WAS JUST A BOXER, CASSIUS CLAY, I'D BE FOLLOWED BY BOXING PEOPLE IN ENGLISH-SPEAKING COUNTRIES, THAT'S IT. (CROWD CHEERS) I'M GOING TO HIT YOUR HAND 10 TIMES BEFORE THE AUDIENCE COUNT TWO. WHEN I SAY GO, YOU ALL SAY, 'ONE, TWO'. IT'S A CRAZY GAME. AS SOON AS I SAY GO, WHEN I SAY GO, YOU SAY 'ONE, TWO'. OKAY, LET'S TEST IT. GO. CROWD: ONE, TWO! OK, THAT WAS GOOD. (CROWD CHEERS) TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS YOU WITNESSED IT LIVE. (LAUGHTER) THEY'LL SAY YOU'RE CRAZY, BUT TELL THEM YOU WITNESSED IT. (LAUGHTER) NOW WATCH CLOSE. PLEASE WATCH CLOSE BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE MISS IT. THEY DON'T SEE IT. GO. CROWD: ONE, TWO! YOU WON'T SEE IT AGAIN. (LAUGHTER, APPLAUSE) ALI LOVES EVERYONE WHO LOVES HIM. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE NOT TO LIKE HIM. HIS SENSE OF HUMOUR AND SHARP INTELLECT ARE IRRESISTIBLE. HIS ATHLETIC CAREER SEEMS MATTER OF FACT TO HIM. HE COULD HAVE CHOSEN SOME OTHER FIELD AND BEEN JUST AS GREAT. HE DOES SEE HIMSELF AS A MODERN DAY MESSIAH. FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE, PEOPLE WILL WATCH HIM AND LISTEN TO HIM. THEY'LL COME TO SEE THE MOST FAMOUS BOXER IN THE WORLD. THEY'LL GO AWAY WITH A LITTLE MORE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TEACHINGS OF ISLAM. PHYSICALLY, MUHAMMAD ALI CAN'T BE THE GREATEST MUCH LONGER, BUT THE MEMORIES AND THE MESSAGE HE WANTS TO SPREAD WILL PROBABLY GROW STRONGER. EVEN NOW WATCHING HIM, EVERYONE IS IN THE PALM OF HIS HAND. I REALLY HAD TO GO TO THE BATHROOM, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE. I WAS WATCHING THAT. ME U TONU MAI ` HOW ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS RUNNING FOUL OF COURT SUPPRESSION RULES. YOU CAN GO NOW. (UPBEAT MUSIC) WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. HERE'S WHAT'S MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING. THE PRIME MINISTER IS DEFENDING THE GOVERNMENT'S LATEST TOURISM CAMPAIGN, DESPITE THE PRICE TAG. A LARGE VEGETATION FIRE IN PORT WAIKATO IS NOW CONSIDERED CONTAINED, A LARGE VEGETATION FIRE IN PORT WAIKATO IS NOW CONSIDERED CONTAINED BUT IS NOT YET FULLY EXTINGUISHED. TAURANGA MAYOR MAHE DRYSDALE'S SAYS HE WILL FULFIL A ELECTION PROMISE TO LIVE PERMANENTLY IN THE CITY. WHILE WE'RE ALL PRETTY AWARE OF THE RISK AND DANGERS OF AI, IT MAY NOW ALSO BE BREAKING NEW ZEALAND LAW. GOOGLE AI IS IN THE FIRING LINE AFTER IT WAS DISCOVERED THE SOFTWARE WAS BREACHING NAME SUPPRESSIONS PUT IN PLACE BY COURTS HERE IN AOTEAROA. TO EXPLAIN, WE HAD TO BRING IN TECH EXPERT AND FRIEND OF THE SHOW, DANU ABEYSURIYA. MORENA. JUST FOR A BIT OF CONTEXT, RNZ WERE DOING ARTICLES ON WHATEVER, AND IN THE COURSE OF THEIR RESEARCH, THEY FOUND THAT NAMES THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SUPPRESSED WERE POPPING UP IN THEIR RESEARCH. HOW IS THIS HAPPENING? THE ARTICLE GOES ON TO DESCRIBE HOW AI MIGHT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS, BECAUSE AI IS USED BY GOOGLE. THEY HAVE OPENLY STATED THAT. THEY ARE USING IT TO IMPROVE THE SEARCH RESULTS. SO WHAT IT APPEARS LIKE IS THAT THIS MORE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY IS CONNECTING THE DOTS BETWEEN INFORMATION MAY BE A LITTLE TOO WELL. AND IT IS ABLE TO SURFACE THIS INFORMATION. WHEN A COURT IN NEW ZEALAND SAYS TO THE MEDIA TO REPORT OPEN AND FAIR JUSTICE, THEY SAY THE NAME IS SUPPRESSED, IT MIGHT HARM THE PEOPLE'S REPUTATION, AND YOU CANNOT NAME THEM DURING THE COURSE OF THE TRIAL, BUT GOOGLE AND OTHER BIG PUBLISHERS LIKE THAT, THEY ARE NOT PRIVY TO THE SAME CONVERSATIONS. WE HAVE GOT A REALLY INTERESTING SET OF OCCURRENCES HERE. WE ARE DEALING WITH GLOBAL COMPANIES. THIS IS ONE OF THE RISKS OF GLOBALISATION IS. YOU HAVE DIFFERENT LAWS IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD. WE HAVE ALSO GOT A WORLD WHERE, IN MY OPINION, THERE ARE LARGE LANGUID MODELS THAT NEED TO GAIN LOTS OF DATA. TYPICALLY THE DATA IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, AND THEY CAN INCLUDE DATASETS THAT ARE LIKE TWITTER AND REDDIT. YOU CANNOT CONTROL WHAT PEOPLE POST EVEN IF IT IS NOT COMPLIANT. THE SYSTEMS ARE FINDING SO MUCH DATA THAT IT IS VERY PLAUSIBLE THAT IT WILL SUCK UP A COMMENT THAT WAS NOT MEANT TO BE OUT IN THE OPEN. AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU MIGHT HAVE, LET'S SAY, A NEW ZEALAND ATHLETE IN COURT ON DRUGS CHARGES AND THEIR NAME HAS BEEN SUPPRESSED. NEW ZEALAND MEDIA COMPANIES MIGHT NOT PUBLISH THAT NAME OR PUT PICTURES ANYWHERE, BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMEONE THAT HAS POSTED SOMETHING ON THE INTERNET FROM YEARS BACK ABOUT A NEW ZEALAND ATHLETE WHO WAS INVOLVED WITH DRUGS, THAT INFORMATION GET SUCKED UP. AND IT CAN BE RECALLED BY A SYSTEM LIKE AI. AND ONE OTHER POSSIBILITY IS THE SYSTEMS KIND OF MIMICS DEDUCTIVE REASONING. IF THERE ARE ENOUGH CLOSE TO THE POTENTIAL OF THE AI TO EFFECTIVELY HALLUCINATE AND SUGGEST TO SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE THE RIGHT ANSWER BUT THERE IS NOT ACTUALLY ANY TRUTH THERE. WHEN YOU GO TO GOOGLE THIS CASE THAT IS SUGGESTED TO YOU, IS THAT WHAT HAPPENS? IT IS POSSIBLE. OTHER SYSTEMS ARE DEFINITELY CAPABLE OF HALLUCINATING. THEY DEFINITELY CANNOT EASILY ASCERTAIN THE SOURCE OF INFORMATION. THAT IS ONE OF THE COMMON PROBLEM. THEY ARE WORKING ON IT, AND THE PROBABILITY IS LOWER, BUT IF YOU WERE TO IMPLY A PERSON THROUGH ASSOCIATION, BECAUSE THE AI SYSTEM IS PARTICULARLY GOOD AT PIECING INFORMATION TOGETHER, MORE SO THAN A TRADITIONAL SEARCH, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET ONE OF THESE SYSTEMS TO PRODUCE AN ANSWER THAT ABSOLUTELY LOOKS RIGHT BUT MAY NOT ACTUALLY BE GROUNDED IN TRUTH. WHERE SHOULD THE RESPONSIBILITY LIE? SHOULD IT BE ON THE BIG COMPANIES OR ON GOVERNMENTS? I THINK COMPANIES NEED TO RESPECT THE COMPLIANCE AND THE ENVIRONMENTS THAT THEY OPERATE IN. JUST BECAUSE NEW ZEALAND IS A LITTLE COUNTRY DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE LAW SHOULD NOT BE ABIDED. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE GOOGLE AND OTHER COMPANIES LOOK TO PROVIDE A PARTICULAR SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM. I ALSO THINK REGULATION WAS MADE AT A TIME WHEN INFORMATION DID NOT TRAVEL SO QUICKLY. I DO NOT THINK IT HAS EVEN KEPT UP WITH SOCIAL MEDIA FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS LET ALONE THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT IS EMERGING. THE COURTS ARE HAPPY TO DRAG THEMSELVES INTO THE PRESENT DAY AND ACTUALLY DEAL WITH HOW THINGS ARE IMPORTED. I THINK IT IS REALLY HIGH TIME FOR US TO MAYBE LAY DOWN THE TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS, SOMETHING A BIT MORE DETAILED THAT TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES CAN WORK TO THAT RESPECT THAT THESE SYSTEMS OPERATE IN A DIFFERENT WAY RATHER THAN SORT OF OUR RULE SET, MAYBE A RULE SET THAT RESTRICTS THE TECHNOLOGY IN PARTICULAR INSTANCES. IT IS A HARD ONE. IT IS A BIG PANDORA'S BOX. ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU IN THE STUDIO. A MURI I NGA WHAKATAIRANGA ` YOUR 8.30 NEWS, SPORT AND WEATHER. PLUS, THE CAMPAIGN HOPING FOR THOUSANDS OF HANDBAGS IN SUPPORT OF WOMEN'S REFUGE. (UPBEAT MUSIC) WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. TIME FOR YOUR NEWS. UK PRIME MINISTER KEIR STARMER SAYS THE COLLECTIVE SECURITY OF EUROPE IS AT STAKE AS THE U.S. AND RUSSIA PREPARE FOR PEACE TALKS IN SAUDI ARABIA. IT COMES AS EUROPEAN LEADERS WRAP UP THEIR EMERGENCY SUMMIT ON UKRAINE AFTER BEING EXCLUDED FROM THE OTHER NEGOTIATIONS. STARMER HAS PREVIOUSLY SAID HE IS READY TO DEPLOY BRITISH PEACEKEEPING TROOPS IN UKRAINE IF NECESSARY. GERMANY'S CHANCELLOR HAS CALLED DISCUSSIONS OVER SENDING TROOPS 'PREMATURE' AND 'INAPPROPRIATE'. WINTER STORMS CONTINUE TO PUMMEL THE UNITED STATES, WITH THE DEATH TOLL RISING TO AT LEAST 11, MOSTLY IN KENTUCKY'S SWOLLEN CREEKS AND FLOODED ROADS AFTER HEAVY RAIN. THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IS NOW WARNING OF LIFE-THREATENING COLD WEATHER IN MONTANA, WITH MORE THAN 65 MILLION AMERICANS NOW UNDER COLD ALERTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY FROM TEXAS TO MINNESOTA. RWANDA-BACKED REBELS HAVE TAKEN OVER A SECOND MAJOR CITY IN EASTERN CONGO. FIGHTERS COULD BE SEEN MARCHING THROUGH THE STREETS OF BUKAVU AFTER SEIZING THE CITY OF GOMA LAST MONTH. THE LATEST OUTBREAK OF FIGHTING IN THE COUNTRY'S MINERAL-RICH EAST HAS KILLED AT LEAST 3000 PEOPLE. POPULAR WALKING TRACKS NEAR WELLINGTON HAVE BEEN FORCED TO SHUT FOLLOWING A RISE IN FIRE RISK. GREATER WELLINGTON HAS CLOSED TWO LARGE SECTIONS OF EAST HARBOUR REGIONAL PARK UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. PARANGARAHU LAKES AND BARING HEAD IS CLOSED FROM 1 UNTIL 9pm DAILY, WHILE RIDGE TRACK IS COMPLETELY OFF LIMITS. THE DEFENCE FORCE IS TAKING A LOCAL COUNCIL TO COURT OVER A NOISE COMPLAINT. A HEARING HAS BEGUN IN CHRISTCHURCH, WHERE THE SELWYN DISTRICT COUNCIL IS REFUSING TO BAN RESIDENTS WHO LIVE NEAR THE WEST MELTON ARMY RIFLE RANGE FROM COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NOISE. IN THE HEARING, THE ARMY SAYS IF THE MILITARY HAS TO LIMIT ITS OPERATIONS, THIS WOULD HAVE 'HUGE CONSEQUENCES ON NEW ZEALAND SECURITY'. AND FINALLY, HOLLYWOOD SUPERSTAR LEONARDO DICAPRIO MAY BE USED TO MAKING HEARTS THROB, OR LEAP, EVEN. NOW HE'S BEING RECOGNISED FOR HIS CONSERVATION WORD BY HAVING A FROG NAMED AFTER HIM. THE NEW SPECIES WAS RECENTLY DISCOVERED IN ECUADOR. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. IT'S LOOKING LIKE ANOTHER GREY DAY. PARTLY CLOUDY FOR MOST OF YOU WITH SCATTERED RAIN FOR MOST AND ISOLATED SHOWERS IN THE NORTH, TURNING MAINLY FINE ON THE EAST COAST. 27 THE HIGH IN AUCKLAND. 29 IN GISBORNE. SIMILAR STORY IN THE SOUTH ISLAND. PACK YOUR BROLLY, THOUGH. RAINY PERIODS FOR MOST OF YOU HERE. THIS WILL EASE TO SHOWERS LATER ON IN CANTERBURY AND MARLBOROUGH. TAKE CARE, THERE IS AN ORANGE HEAVY RAIN WARNING IN PLACE THIS SEGMENT IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY ROTORUA NZ. MATT GIBB HAS BEEN BUSY THIS MORNING CHECKING OUT WHAT ROTORUA HAS TO OFFER, AND NOW HE'S MADE IT TO REDWOODS TREEWALK. HOW'S IT GOING, MATT? KIA ORA. JUST HIDING BEHIND THIS MAGNIFICENT REDWOOD IN THE REDWOOD FOREST. I AM ON A ROBE-TRIP CHECKING OUT THE AMAZING EXPERIENCES YOU CAN HAVE IN ROTORUA. YOU CAN WIN SOME INCREDIBLE EXPERIENCES AT WINWITHBREAKFAST.CO.NZ. YOU MIGHT EVEN MEET DANNY, A REDWOODS RANGER. THIS IS SUCH AN AMAZING THING TO DO. IT IS ABOUT 833 AT THE MOMENT. YOU OPENING UP ON 27 MINUTES. ARE YOU EXPECTING A BUSY DAY TODAY? WE ARE OPEN RAIN OR SHINE. THE WINNERS, IF THEY DO EXPERIENCE THIS, YOU CAN TAKE THEM THROUGH THE TREE WALK. WHAT FOR THE EXPERIENCE OF THIS PARTICULAR SPOT? IT IS ABOUT A 700 M WALK. TAKES MOST PEOPLE 30 TO 40 MINUTES, BUT YOU CAN TAKE AS LONG AS YOU LIKE. THE WALK ITSELF IS ELEVATED AND SUSPENDED FROM THE TREES. IT RANGES FROM 6 M TO 20 M. IT IS HIGH IN THE TREES, BUT IT IS NOT EXTREME. WEATHER YOU ARE TWO OR 20 OR NINE OR 90. IF YOU'RE INTO YOUR ADVENTURE ACTIVITIES AND WANT SOMETHING MORE DOWN YOUR ALLEY IN TERMS OF EXHILARATION, YOU OFFER THAT AS WELL. WE OFFER THE REDWOODS ALTITUDE. THAT IS A 2 1/2 HOURS OF LINING TAURAROA AT 25 M. THIS IS AN ENGINEERING FEAT, HOW LONG IT TAKES TO PUT THIS TOGETHER? ONCE IT WAS ALTOGETHER, IT TOOK FIVE OR SIX WEEKS. A MASSIVE FEAT, HUGE TEAM. THAT IS A STUNNING SPOT. YOU HAVE TO COME IF YOU ARE IN ROTORUA. NO TREES ARE DAMAGED, YOU ARE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW YOU TREAT THE TREES. HUGELY. WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THE WHENUA OF THE TREES. THESE TREES GROW 10 TIMES QUICKER THAN THEIR NATIVE HOME, SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO TOUCH THE TREES. WE HAVE THESE SLINGS WHICH HOLDS EVERYTHING UP. NOTHING IS DRILLED UP. THEY CAN TAKE 10 TONS EACH. OUR WINNERS WILL HAVE A WONDERFUL WEEKEND AWAY. ARE YOU GOING TO LOOK AFTER THEM WHEN THEY COME HERE? OF COURSE, THE VIP TREATMENT. THE FAST PASS WILL ALLOW THEM TO HAVE A DAY WALK AND NIGHT WALK, AND SCEPTIC YOU. YOU COME ALONG HERE TO REDWOODS TREE WALK, ALONG WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER EXPERIENCES. WE WILL SHOW YOU ALL THE EXPERIENCES ACROSS THE WEEK. WHEN WITH BREAKFAST.CO.NZ. THANKS, DANNI. THANKS, MATT. HUGE INJECTION OF ENERGY. THE 'LOVE GRACE' HANDBAG APPEAL AIMS TO MAKE SOMETHING GOOD OUT OF SOMETHING TERRIBLE. FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, HANDBAGS FILLED WITH USEFUL ITEMS CAN BE DONATED AND WILL END UP WITH WOMEN WHO SEEK HELP FROM WOMEN'S REFUGE. ONE OF THE COORDINATORS OF THE APPEAL, BROOKE PRESTON, ACTUALLY WORKED ON THE CASE AND SHE JOINS US NOW. GOOD MORNING. WHAT IS THIS APPEAL ABOUT? THE APPEAL STARTED IN THE UK BY GRACE'S FAMILY. HER MOTHER AND GRACE'S COUSIN WANTED TO DO SOMETHING AFTER HER DEATH TO CHANNEL SOMETHING INTO MORE POSITIVE. THEY PUT IN THE LOVE OF GRACE'S HANDBAGS. THAT IS WHERE IT ALL CAME ABOUT. THAT WANT TO HELP OTHER WOMEN IN THE SAME POSITION. THE HANDBAGS ARE ALL DONATED TO WOMAN'S REFUGES IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY DONATED. IF YOU WANT TO HELP OUT AND GET INVOLVED, WHAT DO YOU NEED TO DO? THERE ARE A LIST OF BASIC ITEMS THAT YOU CAN FIND ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE WHICH IS THE LOVE GRACE HANDBAG APPEAL. YOU HAVE BASICS, PLACE THEM IN A BAG AND YOU CAN DONATE THEM TO A DROP-OFF POINT WHICH ARE ALL ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE. IF YOU'RE WONDERING ABOUT THE BAG, IF IT HAS TO BE NEW, CAN BE NEW, IT CAN BE USED OR NEAR NEW. JUST THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE COMFORTABLE GIFTING SOMEONE. THEY SHARE HOW MUCH IT IS MEANT TO THEM TO RECEIVE THIS BAG. THERE IS SOMETHING THAT THAT WOMAN LIKE TO DO WHO DONATE AS WELL IS POP MESSAGES INSIDE, OF AFFIRMATION. WE HAVE KIA KAHA. WOMAN THAT RECEIVED THE BAGS FEEL LIKE IT IS A PERSONAL TOUCH AND THAT THEY HAVE CURATED THE BAG AND THOUGHT OF THEM IN THEIR TIME OF NEED. THE BAGS HAVE A LITTLE TAG FOR LOVE GRACE AND IT HAS GRACE'S ART HERSELF, A LITTLE PUPPY THAT SHE DREW. IN TERMS OF PERSONAL TOUCH, YOU HAD SOME INVOLVEMENT IN THE CASE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THAT WAS. I WORKED FOR THE NEW ZEALAND POLICE AT THE TIME WHEN GRACE WENT MISSING, AND I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE ON THE INVESTIGATION TEAM WHICH WAS A LOVELY TEAM. THERE WERE A TEAM OF US WORKING ON IT. WE MANAGED TO FIND GRACE AND BRING JUSTICE FOR HER. IT IS NICE TO STILL BE ABLE TO WORK ON THIS APPEAL AND KEEP CLOSE TO HER IN THIS WAY. IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE DOING IN A PROFESSIONAL CAPACITY, BUT THE FACT THAT YOU ARE DOING THIS NOW, I FEEL THAT IT IS TAKEN MORE OF AN IMPACT THAN JUST A JOB. IT HAS, WORKING ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS PERSONAL. YOU GET TO LEARN ABOUT SOMEONE'S LIFE, HELPING TO KEEP A LEGACY ALIVE IN DOING THIS. WE HAVE THREE AMAZING ORGANISERS. WE ALSO HAVE 61 COORDINATORS AND 105 DROP-OFF POINTS. WE HAVE DOUBLED IN SIZE SINCE LAST YEAR. WE AIMED FOR 1500 BAGS LAST YEAR AND GOT OVER 5000. I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT WE ARE GOING TO OUT DO THAT THIS YEAR FROM ALL OF THE PUBLIC AND LOCAL BUSINESSES WHO HAVE BEEN WILLING TO GET INVOLVED THIS YEAR. PEOPLE DO WANT TO GET INVOLVED, IS THERE A PLACE THEY CAN GO TO FIND WHETHER THE LATEST DROP-OFF ZONE WILL BE? THE FACEBOOK PAGE IS THE BEST PLACE TO GO. THE LOVE GRACE HANDBAG APPEAL NEW ZEALAND PAGE. THE LUXURY, BASIC ITEMS THAT YOU CAN PLACE IN THEM AS WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL INITIATIVE. HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SURPASS THAT 5000 MARK. E WHAI AKE NEI ` MORE THAN 30 PEOPLE CALLED SHIRLEY ARE GETTING TOGETHER IN CHRISTCHURCH TO CELEBRATE THEIR NAME. SHIRLEY NOT. NEXT, MORE ABOUT THE 'SHIRLEY CLUB', WHICH HAS CHAPTERS AROUND THE WORLD. Where to from here, New Zealand? To amazing places, places of opportunity, technology, possibility, sustainability, every ability, places that are for all to enjoy ` yeah, everyone. Let's enjoy the path forged by those that came before us but also find new ones, maybe better ones. Life is our journey. Aotearoa ` our magnificent waka. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. HERE IS WHAT IS MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING. THE DEATH TOLL FROM STORMS IN THE U.S. HAS RISEN TO AT LEAST 11. GOOGLE'S AI HAS BEEN BREACHING NEW ZEALAND'S NAME SUPPRESSION LAWS BY SHARING NAMES OF OFFENDERS THROUGH ITS OVERVIEW AI TOOL. AND POPULAR WALKING TRACKS NEAR WELLINGTON HAVE BEEN FORCED TO CLOSE FOLLOWING AN INCREASE IN FIRE RISK. CALLING ALL SHIRLEYS. A CELEBRATION IS BEING HELD IN CHRISTCHURCH WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING ANYONE'S NAME WRONG. THE CHRISTCHURCH SHIRLEY CLUB IS TURNING 25, AND DOZENS OF PEOPLE WITH THE NAME ARE SET TO GATHER FOR A WEEKEND OF LAUGHS. MEMBERS SHIRLEY PETSCHICK AND SHIRLEY SMITH ARE WITH US NOW. SHIRLEY SMITH. WHICH ONE? ME. IT IS SO LOVELY TO HAVE YOU BOTH ON THE PROGRAM. WHAT IS THE STORY BEHIND THE CLUB? WE HAVING OUR 25TH BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION THIS WEEKEND. NOT THIS WEEKEND, IN TWO WEEKENDS. I LOVE THIS. SHIRLEY P. CAN I CALL YOU THAT? YOU CAN CALL ME ANYTHING. I WILL CALL YOU AUNTIE SHIRLEY THEN. THIS IS BEEN GOING FOR 25 YEARS. WHEN DID YOU JOIN? HOW MUCH IS THE CLUB GIVEN YOU? IT HAS GIVEN ME A LOT. I HAVE SEEN MOST OF AUSTRALIA BECAUSE OF IT. THAT STARTED IN WESTERN AUSTRALIA. WE GO TO THE CONVENTION EVERY YEAR. IT USED TO BE TWO YEARS, BUT NOW IT IS EVERYONE YEAR. THE SHIRLEYS ARE GETTING OLDER SO IT IS NOW ONE YEAR. THEY STARTED IT AFTER THEY FOUND AN AD IN THE PAPER AND THEY STARTED IT FROM THERE. I JOINED IN 2001. WE FORMED IN MARCH 2000. I LOVE IT. WHAT HAS THIS CLUB MEANT FOR YOU? I HAVE BEEN IN IT FOR 12 YEARS, AND I HAVE ENJOYED THE FELLOWSHIP. THE MOTTO IS FUN, FOOD, FRIENDSHIP. WE SURE HAVE THAT. WE HAVE LOTS OF ACTIVITIES AND OUTINGS AND CUPS OF TEA AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE IS ALWAYS LAUGHTER. BEAUTIFUL. I HAVE AN AUNTIE SHIRLEY, I KNOW A SHIRLEY WHO LIVES IN HAMILTON. BUT TO BE HONEST, I DO NOT KNOW ANY YOUNGER PEOPLE WITH THE NAME. ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT THE NAME IS POTENTIALLY DISAPPEARING? IT IS. IT IS, AND THE SHIRLEY NAME GOES BACK TO THE 12TH CENTURY. IT IS ONE OF THE OLDEST NAMES. STARTING IN THE MID-50S RIGHT THROUGH UNTIL 90 YEARS OLD. SHIRLEYS ARE YOUNG AT HEART. WE HAVE A LOT OF FUN. WE GO DANCING AND DO ALL SORTS OF FUNNY THINGS. THAT SOUNDS WONDERFUL. MY QUESTION AROUND THE ACTUAL GETTING TOGETHER, THOUGH, IT MUST BE CONFUSING. WHO DO YOU KNOW WHO WAS TALKING TO WHO? EVERYONE LOOKS WHEN WE CALL OUT SHIRLEY. EVERYONE TURNS AROUND AND ANSWERS. WE HAVE A NUMBER AFTERWARDS. 'CNZ', WHICH IS CANTERBURY NEW ZEALAND. I AM SHIRLEY 30. WE HAVE MORE THAN ONE SHIRLEY SMITH. THIS HERE IS SHIRLEY 68. IF THERE ARE SOME SHIRLEYS LISTENING IN THIS MORNING THAT WANT TO TAP INTO THE GROUP THAT YOU HAVE GOT, OUT OF THERE FIND OUT A LITTLE MORE ABOUT IT? THEY CAN CONTACT US. WE HAVE EMAILS AND PHONE NUMBERS THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM IF YOU LET THEM KNOW. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, 25 YEARS. THANK YOU, 25! ENJOY THE CELEBRATIONS. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? WE HAVE GOT A FULL WEEKEND. WE START ON FRIDAY NIGHT WITH A MEET AND GREET. SATURDAY MORNING, WE GO TO A HERITAGE PARK. SATURDAY NIGHT, WE HAVING A DINNER CELEBRATION. THERE WILL BE SPEECHES AND GAMES AND ACTIVITIES. SUNDAY, WE ARE GOING OUT TO THE CANTERBURY. WE HAVE A BUS HIRED AND ARE GOING TO DARFIELD BACK THROUGH RANGIORA, AWAY FOR A WHOLE DAY. THERE WILL BE LOTS OF FUN AND LAUGHTER AND JOKES. HAVE THE BEST TIME, HAVE A WONDERFUL WEEKEND. SHIRELY JOINING US FROM THE CANTERBURY CLUB. GO WELL, YOU TWO AMAZING WOMAN. WE'RE GETTING THROUGH THIS SHOW SLOWLY BUT SHIRLEY. WE WILL BE BACK AFTER THE BREAK. VOICEOVER: Get double data this summer with Skinny mobile. That's double the true crime podcasts. VOICEOVER RADIO: It all started when the car broke down... at two times the summer banger playlists! Skinny has the happiest customers in the summer with double data, they're double happy. (UPBEAT MUSIC) WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. IT'S BEEN A BIG FEW DAYS IN TIMARU FOR DAHLIA FANS AND GROWERS. THE LOCAL HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY IS HOSTING THE ANNUAL SOUTH ISLAND DAHLIA SHOW. AND WHILE IT MAY SOUND LIKE SUNSHINE AND ROSES, TURNS OUT FLOWER COMPETITIONS CAN BE VERY SERIOUS BUSINESS. ALI PUGH EXPLAINS. IT'S DAHLIA MANIA AT THE CAROLINE BAY HALL. WE'RE THE COUNTRY GIRLS. COUNTRY BUMPKINS. (CHUCKLES) COME TO TIMARU. (CHUCKLES) 600 ENTRIES, ALL VYING FOR THE TITLE OF THE MAINLAND'S CHAMPION BLOOM. SO, WE'VE GOT EXHIBITORS FROM NELSON, BLENHEIM TO INVERCARGILL HAVE COME TO DISPLAY THEIR FLOWERS. THE NATIONAL DAHLIA SOCIETY HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 1938 AND HAS FORMED A SOLID MEMBERSHIP OF DAHLIA LOVERS. YEAH, YOU JUST... YOU JUST LOVE THEM. THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL. YEP. THEY'RE A PLEASURE TO HAVE IN THE GARDEN. THE NATIONAL COMPETITION SPLIT INTO TWO SEPARATE EVENTS ` ONE FOR EACH ISLAND BECAUSE THE FLOWERS THEMSELVES DON'T TRAVEL TOO WELL. SO, I LEFT AT 9 O'CLOCK LAST NIGHT, AND I TRAVELLED ALL NIGHT COS IT'S COOLER DURING THE NIGHT. I'VE COME FROM BLENHEIM, SO, UM... YES, IT'S A LONG JOURNEY FOR THEM IN A HOT CAR. I JUST HAD WATER IN THEIR BOTTLES. THEY` YOU'VE GOT TO TRAVEL WITH WATER. THIS ENTRANT TRANSFORMED HIS CAR INTO A FRIDGE FOR THE TRIP. I FILL THE CAR UP WITH ICE AND BUCKETS, AND I JUST TRAVELLED ALL NIGHT, AND I GOT HERE AT 5 O'CLOCK THIS MORNING. WE WRAPPED THEM UP IN COTTON WOOL, SO TO SPEAK, CABLE-TIED DOWN SO THEY DON'T RUB AGAINST EACH OTHER OR KNOCK EACH OTHER AROUND, OTHERWISE THEY'D BRUISE. AND IT'S HIGH STAKES. ONE POORLY TIMED TRUCK CAN END IN DAHLIA FAILURE. IF YOU'VE GOT A FARMER GOING PAST YOUR GATE WITH A LOAD OF SHEEP, AND HE STICKS UP A LOT OF DUST AND EVERYTHING, WELL, THAT SEEMED TO YOUR DAHLIAS; THEY'RE FULL OF DUST AND MUD. THAT'S COUNTRY LIFE. THE FLOWERS THAT DID SURVIVE FACING THE JUDGING PANEL. WE'RE LOOKING FOR A HIGH STANDARD, IDEALLY. SO YOU'VE GOT TO BE A BIT PICKY, YEAH. THE FLOWERS HAVE TO BE THE SAME SIZE HERE. GOOD STEMS. MATCHING COLOUR. IN THE RIGHT CLASS. THEY SHOULD IDEALLY BE LIKE A ROUND BALL. EVERY BLOOM METICULOUSLY ANALYSED. SO, WHAT'S ON THAT SIDE? GOES THROUGH. YEP. THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S PROBABLY GOT FIMBRIATED PETALS AS WELL, YEAH. SO THAT'S OUT. CAN'T HAVE FIMBRIATED PETALS. OH, THEY'VE GOT TO BE 50 BY 50. SO THESE OTHERS ARE OK. BUT THAT ONE'S OVERSIZED BOTH WAYS. YEAH. SO DISQUALIFY IT? YES. AND IF THERE'S ANY CONFUSION OVER THE SEVERITY OF FLORA FLAWS, THERE'S A RULE BOOK. ...PETALOIDS ARE PRESENT... THE CHOSEN ONES ELEVATED TO THE TOP TABLE, WITH THIS PINK JUPITER EVENTUALLY CROWNED CHAMPION OF CHAMPIONS. WELL, THE FORM, IT'S SITTING BEAUTIFULLY, GOT NO BAD MARKS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON IT. IT'S QUITE CLEAN ALL ROUND, SO... THAT'S WHAT WE SORT OF LOOKED FOR. ROBIN AND JOHN CASEY, THE PROUD GROWERS. WITH A BIT OF LUCK, WE'LL GET A NICE BIG RIBBON OUT OF IT OR SOMETHING. WELL, YOU GOT TO BE RELAXED, BECAUSE IF YOU GET YOUR KNICKERS IN A TWIST OVER SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU'LL NEVER LIVE. (CHUCKLES) AND WHILE IT MAY SEEM ALL A BIT SERIOUS, EVERYONE REALLY JUST HAPPY TO ENJOY THE DAY ` AND THE DAHLIAS. THEY LOOK SUPERB. ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. WE HAVE FUN. THAT'S THE MAIN THING. WHO WON? I THOUGHT IT WAS THE COUPLE OVER THERE. SO GOOD, ALI. STORY OF THE DAY FOR ME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMPANY THIS MORNING. CAPTIONS BY FRANK GORE, COURTNEY SOLE, DREW WELSH AND JULIE TAYLOR. CAPTIONS WERE MADE WITH THE SUPPORT OF NZ ON AIR. WWW.ABLE.CO.NZ COPYRIGHT ABLE 2025