IT'S WEDNESDAY, THE 19th OF MARCH. MORENA. THIS IS BREAKFAST. SO GOOD TO HAVE YOUR COMPANY THIS MORNING. WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT GOSSIP, SOMETHING I TRY AND STAY AWAY FROM. YOU ARE VERY GOOD AT THAT. STAYING AWAY FROM IT? IF ANYONE EVER BRINGS ANYTHING UP WITH YOU, YOU JUST SORT OF STRAIGHT BACK AND DO NOT ENGAGE. I DO NOT CARE OR I WILL WALK AWAY. THAT IS WHAT I WILL NORMALLY DO ` WALK AWAY FROM THE CONVERSATION. FOR OTHER PEOPLE, IT CAN BE QUITE FUN. THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE AROUND HERE WHO ARE MUCH WORSE THAN OTHERS. IT CAN BE VERY DAMAGING. THIS IS A FANTASTIC STORY, ACTUALLY. I WILL TELL YOU ABOUT LATER. IT IS SORT OF WAY GOSSIP SPELLS INTO BITCHING ABOUT SOMEONE OVER TEXT. BUT THEN YOU SEND IT TO THAT PERSON. WE HAVE ALL DONE IT. HAVE WE, THOUGH? IT DOES NOT ALWAYS HAVE TO BE BAD. I HAVE DONE IT BEFORE WHERE I HAVE GONE, OH, THAT PERSON, AND THEN I HAVE SENT IT TO THAT PERSON, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO KINDA FIND A WAY TO DIG YOURSELF OUT OF IT QUICKLY. WHAT YOU WERE TELLING ME BEFORE WE CAME ON AIR... COMING UP ON THE SHOW THIS MORNING ` FOREIGN MINISTER WINSTON PETERS IS SET TO MEET WITH HIS AMERICAN COUNTERPART LATER THIS MORNING. WHAT WILL BE TOP OF THE AGENDA FOR HIS CHAT WITH THE U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE MARCO RUBIO, AND HOW DOES AOTEAROA FIT INTO AMERICA AND DONALD TRUMP'S NEW GLOBAL VIEW? PLUS, AN INTERNATIONAL CLOTHING LINE IS COPPING CRITICISM, WITH SOME OF ITS MODELS BRANDED 'TOO FAT'. 'SNAG' SAYS IT'S GETTING MORE THAN 100 COMPLAINTS A DAY ABOUT THE MODELS IN ITS ADS. THE PICTURES HAVE BEEN QUESTIONED AFTER OTHER BRANDS HAD THEIR ADS BANNED FOR MODELS BEING TOO THIN. WE'LL SPEAK WITH THE FOUNDER. WHY SHE SAYS SOCIETY STILL HAS A 'FAT PHOBIA'. ALSO AHEAD, NEW ZEALANDERS WITH ADHD ARE STRUGGLING TO ACCESS VITAL MEDICATION. A GLOBAL SHORTAGE OF ADHD DRUGS IS CAUSING DISRUPTIONS, DELAYS, MEDICATION CHANGES AND UNCERTAINTY. HOW LONG COULD THE PROBLEMS PERSIST AND WHAT WILL IT MEAN FOR THOSE WITH THE DISORDER? RIGHT NOW, IT'S 6 O'CLOCK. HERE'S YOUR NEWS. THE ISRAEL-HAMAS CEASEFIRE APPEARS TO BE OVER, WITH ISRAEL LAUNCHING AN OVERNIGHT ATTACK ON GAZA, ITS DEADLIEST IN TWO MONTHS. MORE THAN 400 PALESTINIANS HAVE BEEN KILLED IN THE LATEST AIRSTRIKES, ACCORDING TO THE HAMAS-RUN HEALTH MINISTRY. THE ISRAELI DEFENCE FORCE SAYS IT WAS HITTING 'TERROR TARGETS' THROUGHOUT THE STRIP. THE BBC'S MIDDLE EAST CORRESPONDENT YOLANDE KNELL FILED THIS REPORT FROM JERUSALEM. WELL, THERE ARE REAL FEARS THAT THIS COULD LEAD TO A FULL RETURN TO FIGHTING IN THE GAZA STRIP, SO DEVASTATED BY 15 MONTHS OF WAR. IMPORTANTLY, HAMAS HAS NOT DECLARED YET A RETURN TO WAR. INSTEAD, IT'S` REALLY SAYS IT'S COMMUNICATING WITH MEDIATORS, AND IT'S LOOKING TO THEM AND TO THE U.N. TO INTERVENE HERE. BUT ISRAEL'S SURPRISE ASSAULT OVERNIGHT REALLY DOES SHOW US JUST HOW INDIRECT TALKS THAT HAVE RECENTLY GONE ON HAVE JUST FAILED TO COME UP WITH A WAY OF EXTENDING THE CEASEFIRE. YOU'VE GOT ISRAEL THAT HAS BEEN PUSHING FOR A TWO-MONTH EXTENSION TO THE TRUCE IN RETURN FOR ITS REMAINING HOSTAGES. IT'S THOUGHT THERE ARE 24 ALIVE RETURNING HOME. HAMAS HAS BEEN REJECTING THAT IT WANTS TO GO TO THE ORIGINAL TERMS OF THE CEASEFIRE DEAL, MOVING ON TO THE SECOND PHASE, WHERE THERE'D BE A FULL END TO THE WAR AND A FULL ISRAELI PULL-OUT OF TROOPS FROM THE GAZA STRIP. THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP HAS WRAPPED UP A 90-MINUTE PHONE CALL WITH RUSSIA'S VLADIMIR PUTIN TO DISCUSS ENDING THE WAR IN UKRAINE. THE U.S. WAS HOPING TO PERSUADE THE RUSSIAN LEADER TO AGREE TO A 30-DAY CEASEFIRE DEAL. TRUMP SAID HE PLANNED TO DISCUSS 'LAND', POWER PLANTS AND 'DIVIDING UP CERTAIN ASSETS'. UKRAINE ACCEPTED A CEASEFIRE PROPOSAL LAST WEEK, AND PRESIDENT VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY HAS BLAMED RUSSIA FOR CONTINUING TO DRAG OUT THE WAR. SOPHIE DEVINE IS SET TO MAKE HER RETURN TO CRICKET AFTER BEING NAMED IN THE WHITE FERNS T20 SQUAD TO TAKE ON AUSTRALIA. THE 35-YEAR-OLD TOOK A WELL-BEING BREAK IN JANUARY THAT SAW HER MISS THE SUPER SMASH, WOMEN'S PREMIER LEAGUE AND THE RECENT HOME SERIES AGAINST SRI LANKA. DEVINE SAYS SHE'S EXCITED TO BE BACK WITH THE TEAM AFTER TAKING TIME TO RESET AND REFOCUS. SUZIE BATES WILL CONTINUE AS INTERIM CAPTAIN FOR THE SERIES. THAT GETS UNDERWAY ON FRIDAY NIGHT IN AUCKLAND. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE MARKETS. (FUNKY MUSIC) AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. IT'S LOOKING LIKE ANOTHER GREY DAY. PARTLY CLOUDY WITH PERIODS OF RAIN FOR MOST. HOWEVER, IT WILL BE A FINE START IN GISBORNE AND HAWKE'S BAY BEFORE TAKING A TURN IN THE EVENING WITH ISOLATED SHOWERS. 22 THE HIGH FOR WHANGAREI. 19 FOR PALMERSTON NORTH. A BIT OF A MIXED BAG HERE. A CLOUDY START FOR NELSON. BEFORE CLEARING IN THE AFTERNOON. WIDESPREAD RAIN FOR THE MARLBOROUGH AND CANTERBURY REGIONS. HOWEVER, RAIN WILL EASE TO SHOWERS IN THE LATE MORNING FOR THOSE ALONG THE WEST COAST. A MAINLY FINE DAY APART FROM A FEW LIGHT SHOWERS. 21 THE HIGH FOR QUEENSTOWN. 15 IN KAIKOURA. LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE IS MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING WITH OUR TEAM OF REPORTERS AROUND THE COUNTRY. A SERIOUS CRASH IN AUCKLAND OVERNIGHT. LUCY BENDELL JOINS US. WHAT DO WE KNOW, LUCY? THAT WAS A SINGLE VEHICLE CRASH THAT HAPPENED ON BEACH ROAD AND BROWNS BAY LAST NIGHT AT 7:50 PM. EMERGENCY SERVICES ARRIVED TO THE SCENE, WHERE IT APPEARS A CAR HAS CRASHED INTO A PALM TREE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. POLICE CONFIRMED THAT THE PERSON INSIDE OF THE VEHICLE SUSTAINED SERIOUS INJURIES ON INITIAL REPORTS. OUR CAMERA OPERATOR ARRIVED ON THE SCENE PROMPTLY. WE CAN SEE A POLICE PHOTOGRAPHER SHINING A LIGHT INSIDE OF THAT VEHICLE TO GATHER FURTHER DETAILS, AND THE SERIOUS CRASH INVESTIGATORS ARE MAPPING OUT THE ROAD THAT WAS CLOSED FOR A SERIES OF TIME YESTERDAY, DIVERGING TRAFFIC ON ROADS. THAT AREA IS NOW BACK OPEN THIS MORNING, AND I HAVE REACHED OUT TO ST JOHN THIS MORNING TO GET THE LATEST UPDATE ON THAT PATIENT STATUS. THERE'S ALSO BEEN A SERIOUS CRASH NEAR NEW PLYMOUTH YESTERDAY. JAMES FLEURY'S STANDING BY IN OUR WELLINGTON NEWSROOM. MORENA, JAMES. POLICE HAVE CONFIRMED THAT TWO PEOPLE HAVE DIED FOLLOWING THIS CRASH IN A SMALL SETTLEMENT. IT IS ABOUT 15 MINUTES AWAY FROM NEW PLYMOUTH. POLICE CONFIRMED THIS NEWS AT 9 PM. THE CRASH HAPPENED AT 2 PM YESTERDAY ON MAIN NORTH ROAD. WHEN EMERGENCY SERVICES ARRIVED, THEY LOCATED TWO PEOPLE DECEASED IN ONE OF THE VEHICLE, AND ANOTHER PERSON IN A MODERATE CONDITION AND ANOTHER VEHICLE. THEY WERE RUSHED TO THE LOCAL HOSPITAL, WHERE THEY DO REMAIN IN A MODERATE CONDITION. THIS HAPPENED NEAR A BRIDGE AND THIS PART OF STATE HIGHWAY THREE REMAIN CLOSED UNTIL WELL PAST 9 PM LAST NIGHT WHEN THE SERIOUS CRASH UNIT WAS UNDERTAKING THEIR INVESTIGATIONS. THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THIS CRASH AND EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED LEADING UP TO IT ARE STILL BEING PIECED TOGETHER BY POLICE, BUT THAT ROAD HAS NOW SINCE REOPENED, SO THIS MORNING, TRAFFIC SHOULD BE ABLE TO FLOW. TORRENTIAL RAINS AND GALE-FORCE WINDS HAVE FLOODED ROADS AND BROUGHT DOWN POWER LINES IN CANTERBURY. CHARLOTTE MULDER'S WITH US NOW. WHAT MORE CAN YOU TELL US, CHARLOTTE? HEAVY RAIN AND WHEN WATCHERS WERE IN PLACE FOR PARTS OF CANTERBURY YESTERDAY OVERNIGHT AND THIS MORNING, WHICH WILL BE EASING OFF AS IT MOVES NORTH TOWARDS KAIKOURA. FIRE AND EMERGENCY HAVE HAD MULTIPLE REPORTS OF BOTH POWER LINES AND TREE BRANCHES FALLING OVER WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, WITH ONE INCIDENT INVOLVING A VAN CRASHING INTO A POWER POLE IN THE CHRISTCHURCH SUBURB OF PAPANUI YESTERDAY. A LOT OF PEOPLE WENT WITHOUT POWER, AND ABOUT 100 HOMES WERE REPORTED WITHOUT POWER, WHICH IS NOW DECREES DOWN TO 14, IN THE BANKS PENINSULA, WHETHER FLOODING IS THE WORST. THEY ARE ALSO REPORTING 100 MM OF RAIN IN THE LAST 12 HOURS, AND IT HAPPENED MAINLY IN THE BANKS PENINSULA, WHETHER FLOODING IS WORSE. BY AN EMERGENCY ASKING PEOPLE TO REMAIN VERY CAUTIOUS THIS MORNING WHEN DRIVING INTO WORK, ESPECIALLY IN THE DARK, AS POWER LINES AND TREE BRANCHES MAY HAVE NOT BEEN HIT REPORTED FALLING OVER ONTO THOSE ROADS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT, CHARLOTTE. ADHD MEDICATION IS A LIFELINE FOR MILLIONS AROUND THE WORLD, BUT A GLOBAL SHORTAGE IS MAKING ACCESS DIFFICULT. HERE IN NEW ZEALAND, PATIENTS ARE STRUGGLING WITH DELAYS, MEDICATION CHANGES AND UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THEIR TREATMENT. DARRIN BULL FROM ADHD NEW ZEALAND JOINS ME NOW TO UNPACK. WELCOME BACK TO THE PROGRAM. LOVELY TO SEE YOU AGAIN. HOW BAD IS THIS PROBLEM? THE PROBLEM THAT STARTED OVER A YEAR AGO IS CONTINUING. IT IS NOT GETTING ANY WORSE, IF THAT IS A GOOD WAY TO PUT IT, BUT IT IS NOT GETTING ANY BETTER. WE THINK THERE IS ABOUT 60,000 NEW ZEALANDERS ON THIS MEDICATION, AND ABOUT 10% CAN BE IMPACTED AT ANY ONE TIME. JUST REMIND US AGAIN ` WHY ARE WE EXPERIENCING THE SHORTAGE OF MEDICATION? IN MANY WAYS, IT IS THE PERFECT STORM. IT IS A SHORTAGE WORLDWIDE, AND NEW ZEALAND AS PART OF THAT WORLDWIDE SHORTAGE. ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THE SHORTAGE IS THE INCREASE IN DEMAND WORLDWIDE FOR ADHD MEDICATION, AND SINCE COVID, THERE WERE SUPPLY ISSUES FOR MEDICATION. AND IT HAS NOT RECTIFIED ITSELF. IT IS A PROBLEM THAT IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. WE ANTICIPATE IT FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR. I HAVE SEEN THE UPDATE THAT CAME THROUGH ON THE PHARMAC WEBSITE. I WORLDWIDE SHORTAGE, SO THAT WILL MEAN FOR PERIODS IN 2025, PEOPLE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET THE BRAND THAT THEY WOULD NORMALLY USE. HOW UPSETTING, HOW ANXIOUS CAN PEOPLE BE WHEN THEY HAVE TO CHANGE A BRAND? ANY CHANGE OF MEDICATION IS, OF COURSE, UPSETTING, AND WE KNOW FROM A SMALL SURVEY WE HAVE DONE THAT 54% OF OUR COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN IMPACTED, AND A THIRD ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THEIR LIVES, BE IT JOBS, RELATIONSHIPS OR UNIVERSITY STUDY. THERE ARE THINGS THEY CAN DO, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THEY CAN DO IS TALK TO THEIR GP AND WORK IT THROUGH WITH THEIR DOCTOR AS WELL. REMINDERS AGAIN ` HOW DOES ADHD ` AND I KNOW THERE IS A SPECTRUM AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE WILL BE IMPACTED IN DIFFERENT WAYS ` BUT HOW DOES THIS MEDICATION HELP PEOPLE WHO HAVE ADHD? I AM NOT A DOCTOR, BUT THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT IS THAT THERE IS REALLY TWO TYPES OR PRESENTATIONS OF ADHD. THERE IS A HYPERACTIVITY TYPE, AND THE MEDICATION IN MANY WAYS CAN REMOVE THAT EMOTIONAL DYSREGULATION, IT CAN REMOVE THE HYPERACTIVITY AND MAKE A PERSON KARMA, AND THERE IS ANOTHER PRESENTATION, WHERE A PERSON DOES NOT HAVE THAT HYPERACTIVITY TYPE, BUT THEY STILL CAN HAVE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS. SO WHAT MEDICATION DOES THERE IS IT JUST EVENS IT OUT, SO IT MAKES IT MUCH EASIER. THE LAST TIME YOU AND I SPOKE, IT WAS PROMPTED BY ONLINE... PEOPLE ONLINE WANTING TO SHARE MEDICATION OR TO BORROW MEDICATION BECAUSE THEY WERE LOW ON THE IS, SO ASKING THE COMMUNITY, IF YOU HAVE ANY SPARE, CAN I PLEASE BORROW SOME, AND WHEN I GET MINE, I WILL GIVE IT BACK. I WAS STILL CONTINUING TO SEE THAT HAPPEN? THE SURVEY SHOWED THAT THIS IS HAPPENING FOR 1% OR 2% OF THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS SOMETHING WE STRONGLY DO NOT RECOMMEND. IT IS IMPORTANT YOU DO NOT DO THAT, AND IN MANY INSTANCES, IT IS LIKELY TO BE ILLEGAL. IN TAKING SOMEONE ELSE'S MEDICATION, YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF THE SIDE-EFFECTS OR HOW IT CAN HELP OR NOT. AGAIN, WE SAY GO TALK TO YOUR GP OR LOOK AT THE PHARMAC WEBSITE. IT HAS SOME REALLY GREAT INFORMATION. IS THERE ANY END IN SIGHT FOR THE SHORTAGE OF THIS KIND OF MEDICATION? YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO BE OPTIMISTIC. BUT CERTAINLY FOR THIS YEAR, I CAN SEE THAT SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES WERE ONE MAIN, AND IT WILL ALSO BE INCONSISTENT. FOR INSTANCE, A PARTICULAR TYPE OF MEDICATION WILL BE AVAILABLE, AND AT OTHER TIMES IT WILL NOT. IS THERE ANYWAY THAT NEW ZEALAND CAN SELF GUARD ITSELF FROM THE SHORTAGES? PHARMAC ARE DOING A GREAT JOB IN TRYING TO WORK IT THROUGH, BUT IT SHOWS YOU HOW SMALL WE ARE SOMETIMES, BECAUSE IT IS A WORLDWIDE ISSUE. I HAVE TALKED TO COLLEAGUES AND ADHD UK, AND IT IS MUCH MORE SEVERE OVER THERE, AND THE LEVEL OF INFORMATION IS NOT WHAT IT SHOULD BE OVER THERE, SO IN NEW ZEALAND, I THINK PHARMAC ARE DOING A GREAT JOB AND WORKING AS PROACTIVELY AS POSSIBLE. I AM SURE THOSE WHO ARE WAITING FOR THE MEDICATION WILL KNOW THIS, BUT I WONDER WHETHER YOU CAN, AS A FINAL DEPARTING WORD, JUST SAY HOW PEOPLE CAN DEAL WITH THIS WHO HAVE CHILDREN WHO MAY HAVE ADHD AND ARE STARTING TO SEE THAT SUPPLY DWINDLING AND GETTING ANXIOUS ABOUT WHETHER THEY WILL SEE THEIR MEDICATION. IT IS WHAT I COMMUNITY WOULD SAY TO THEM, BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE SOME RESEARCH ON THIS. THE FIRST THING IS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER SKIPPING DOSES AT LOW-PRESSURE TIMES, LIKE WE CAN SAW DAYS OFF, BUT YOU TRY AND STRETCH OUT YOUR SUPPLY, BUT DO THAT WITH CONSULTATION AND DISCUSSION WITH YOUR DOCTOR. OVERWHELMINGLY, THE FEEDBACK FROM OUR COMMUNITY AS SLEEP BETTER, AND MAYBE THAT IS A BETTER CONVERSATION WITH YOUR DOCTOR AS WELL. ADHD BRAINS WORK VERY HARD ALL DAY TO PROCESS, FILTER AND MANAGE, SO THE BEST WAY TO GET OVER FOCUS PROBLEMS IS TO GET ENOUGH SLEEP, SO CONSISTENTLY CAN BE REALLY IMPORTANT. IT SHOULD BE A LIFE LESSON FOR ALL OF US. AND TO OTHER THINGS IS RESET YOUR BRAIN THROUGH MOVEMENT. IF YOU ARE NOT COPING, GO AND EXERCISE, WALK, ENJOY THE FRESH AIR, AND THE FINAL ONE IS TO LEARN TO DO MEDITATION. SO THERE IS AN ACT WHICH OUR COMMUNITY LOVE CALLED CALM, AND THAT IS ONE THAT HAS BEEN QUITE PROACTIVE DURING THIS PERIOD. I THINK THAT WE COULD ALL DO WITH THAT AS WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. LOVELY TO SEE YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU. E WHAI AKE NEI ` HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THAT ANNOYING COLLEAGUE OR THE ONE NOT PULLING THEIR WEIGHT IN THE OFFICE? NEXT, IS IT EVER OK TO GOSSIP AT WORK? # WILL SOMEBODY TOLD ME # YOU HAD A BOYFRIEND # WHO LOOKED LIKE A GIRLFRIEND VOICEOVER: Pizza Hut's Cheesy Bites, 22 cheese filled bites around a pizza with more cheeeese. (CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING) (INDISTINCT CHATTER) Whoa! Oh hi Mr. Stevenson. You're having a cheese dream, bro. We're inside your brain right now. Yeah, it's pretty weird aye. This is quite high up! VOICEOVER: (UPBEAT MUSIC) I'LL COME BACK TO BREAKFAST. *WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST HERE'S WHAT'S MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING ` ISRAELI AIRSTRIKES HIT GAZA OVERNIGHT. PALESTINIAN HEALTH AUTHORITIES HAVE REPORTED THE STRIKE KILLED MORE THAN 400 PEOPLE. THIS COMES AFTER BOTH ISRAEL AND HAMAS ACCUSED EACH OTHER OF BREACHING THE TWO-MONTH CEASEFIRE. PRESIDENT TRUMP'S HAD A 90-MINUTE PHONE CALL WITH RUSSIA'S VLADIMIR PUTIN ABOUT ENDING THE WAR IN UKRAINE. DETAILS OF WHAT WAS DISCUSSED ARE YET TO BE REVEALED. AND THE ASTRONAUTS THAT HAVE BEEN STRANDED IN SPACE FOR NINE MONTHS ARE NOW ON THEIR JOURNEY BACK TO EARTH. THEY ARE EXPECTED TO LAND OFF THE COAST OF FLORIDA LATE THIS MORNING. WORKPLACE GOSSIP, WHETHER YOU LOVE IT OR HATE IT, IS MOST LIKELY ALWAYS GOING TO EXIST. YOU'LL NEVER GUESS WHAT I KNOW. OK. LET ME FINISH THIS THOUGHT. ERIC LIKES MEGAN. HE MOST DEFINITELY DOES. HE'S BEEN ASKING HER OUT REPEATEDLY FOR WEEKS. SHE FINALLY SAID YES. THEY WENT ON A GROUP DATE THE OTHER NIGHT, APPARENTLY IT WENT VERY WELL. WHILE YOU MIGHT NOT BE HAVING A CHAT ABOUT SOMEONE'S WORKPLACE CRUSH, TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE'S PERFORMANCE OR BEHAVIOUR CAN BE CONSIDERED GOSSIPING. SO HOW DO WE SHARE SOMETIMES NECESSARY INFORMATION ABOUT A COLLEAGUE WITHOUT CREATING A TOXIC WORK ENVIRONMENT? AUT RESEARCHER JAMES GREENSLADE-YEATS HAS BEEN LOOKING INTO THE TOPIC AND JOINS US NOW. GOOD MORNING, JAMES. TELL US BROADLY, HOW DO WE DEFINE GOSSIP AS OPPOSED TO SHARING INFORMATION NECESSARILY AT WORK? I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT MY RESEARCH, IT SAYS IT IS A BIT MORE SUBJECTIVE THAN ANYONE WILL ACTUALLY THINK. IN THE ACADEMIC LITERATURE, THEY TALK ABOUT FOR FEATURES THAT DEFINE GOSSIP. OBVIOUSLY, IT IS A TYPE OF COMMUNICATION, INTERPERSONAL COMMUNICATION. IT IS ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE RATHER THAN EVENTS OR OBJECTS. THE PEOPLE THAT IT'S ABOUT A GENERALLY NOT PRESENT OR OUT OF EARSHOT. THE INFORMATION IS SHARED IN A WAY THAT CASTS SOME KIND OF JUDGEMENT ON OTHER PEOPLE, AND THAT CAN BE EITHER NEGATIVE, BUT ALSO POSITIVE, AND IN WORKPLACES, IT IS KIND OF IN AN INFORMAL SETTING, SO IT IS NOT NOTED DOWN ANYWHERE IN THE OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS OF THE ORGANISATION. THOSE ARE GENERALLY THE FOUR KEY FEATURES OF GOSSIP, BUT IN MY RESEARCH, ONE OF THE THINGS I AM ARGUING IS WHAT REALLY COUNTS IS GOSSIP IS THE TYPE OF COMMUNICATION THAT PEOPLE LABEL GOSSIP. YOU CAN ALWAYS THINK OF AN EXAMPLE WHERE THE COMMUNICATION MEETS THOSE FOUR CRITERIA, YET PEOPLE MIGHT NOT ACTUALLY CONSIDERING GOSSIP. FOR EXAMPLE, SAY THERE ARE TWO MANAGERS DISCUSSING AN EMPLOYEE WHO IS NOT PULLING THEIR WEIGHT, BUT THEY ARE DOING THAT AND KIND OF AN OFF RECORD SETTING. IT IS NOT PART OF THE FORMAL ORGANISATION, BUT THAT KIND OF COMMUNICATION THAT MEETS ALL OF THE CRITERIA OF GOSSIP, YET PEOPLE WOULD NOT THINK OF IT AS GOSSIP, SO AS CONFUSING AS THAT MIGHT SOUND, IT IS A BIT MORE SUBJECTIVE THAN YOU THINK. IT IS A BIT CONFUSING WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT LAYERS, WHO IS TALKING, PEOPLE ON THE LOWER LEVEL OR MANAGERS FURTHER UP, AND WHEN YOU TAKE ALL OF THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, HOW DAMAGING IS A POTENTIALLY WHEN IT IS GOSSIP LIKE YOU SAY? I THINK GOSSIP CAN BE HUGELY DAMAGING. I THINK IT CAN ALSO PROBABLY HAVE SOME BENEFITS. BUT WORK CULTURE IS WHERE THE NORM IS TO, YOU KNOW, BADMOUTH PEOPLE BEHIND THEIR BACKS AND LOOK FOR WAYS OF CUTTING DOWN OTHER PEOPLE AND THAT, AND THAT IS NOT THE KIND OF WORKPLACE YOU WANT TO BE IN. AT THE SAME TIME, SOMETIMES THAT INFORMATION ` THERE MIGHT BE INFORMATION SHARED THAT ACTUALLY NEEDS TO BE HEARD, AND IT IS BECAUSE THE CULTURE IS NOT OPEN ENOUGH TO PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON THAT YOU DO GET THIS VICIOUS GOSSIP CYCLE WHERE EVERYTHING IS REPRESSED, BUT SOME OF THE INFORMATION CAN BE NECESSARY. SO IN SOME OF MY RESEARCH, SOME OF THE EXAMPLES, LIKE SOME HOSPITAL SCANDALS OVER IN THE UK, WHERE PEOPLE KNEW THAT THERE WAS THIS PATIENT NEGLIGENCE GOING ON THROUGH GOSSIP, BUT IT WAS NOT RECOGNISED, AND SOMETIMES THERE NEEDS TO BE STUFF DONE, AND THE INFORMATION CAN BE SHARED THROUGH GOSSIP. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU DO NOT WANT A CULTURE WHERE EVERYONE IS GOSSIPING NEGATIVELY FOR THE SAKE OF GOSSIPING. I AM MINDFUL THAT YOU ARE NOT THE HR BOSS THAT I AM GOING TO ASKING FOR THIS ADVICE; THIS IS JUST YOUR RESEARCH. HAVE YOU NOTICED THE WAY THROUGH YOUR RESEARCH WHERE THERE IS A BEST WAY TO GOSSIP OR TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO SOMEONE MORE SENIOR? I THINK GOING THROUGH... PROBABLY WHAT I WOULD MORE SAY IS THAT THE MORE SENIOR PEOPLE NEED TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE THOSE JUNIOR LEVEL EMPLOYEES WILL FEEL COMFORTABLE SHARING IN AN OFFICIAL MANNER. THEN YOU DO NOT GET THIS VICIOUS CYCLE WHERE IT IS KIND OF GOING ON BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, AND THERE IS NO... WHAT IS THE WORD? THERE IS NO KIND OF COME BACK FOR THE PERSON WHO IS BEING GOSSIPED ABOUT, BECAUSE YOU DO NOT WANT A SITUATION WHERE IT IS TRIAL BY GOSSIP; YOU WANT THINGS TO BE OPEN. BY THE SAME TOKEN, YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE PROPAGATING RUMOURS OR LIES ABOUT SOMEONE, AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, IT IS SPREADING LIKE WILDFIRE. WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO SHUT DOWN GOSSIP IF YOU ARE IN A POSITION OF AUTHORITY OR IF YOU ARE SOMEONE WHO THINKS THIS IS DUST RUMOUR MONGERING? I THINK IT IS MORE TO THINK ABOUT WHY PEOPLE GOSSIP AND THE FUNCTION OF GOSSIP, SO FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THEM IS TO FILL INFORMATION GAPS. PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN THEIR SOCIAL ENVIRONMENT, SO IF YOU KIND OF TELL PEOPLE OPENLY, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE EXAMPLES I MENTION IS PEOPLE MIGHT BE SPECULATING ABOUT A MANAGER SALARY BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN ON THIS EXPENSIVE HOLIDAY OR THEY WEAR NICE CLOTHES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND IN THAT CASE, MAYBE THE ORGANISATION JUST NEED TO THINK ABOUT BEING MORE OPEN ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE ARE GETTING PAID, AND THEN YOU DO NOT GET THIS KIND OF RUMOUR MILL THAT CAN BE QUITE SPECULATIVE AND COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE GOSSIP ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON. MORE JUST OPENING UP AND BEING AS OPEN AS POSSIBLE IN COMMUNICATING AND OFFERING EMPLOYEES THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMUNICATE THEIR CONCERNS MORE DIRECTLY AND IN A WAY THAT IS KIND OF DISPUTABLE, LIKE PEOPLE CAN CHALLENGE WHETHER THIS IS TRUE OR NOT. THIS IS PROBABLY MORE THE WAY TO GO IN TERMS OF MANAGING GOSSIP, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I SAY IS THAT GOSSIP, IT IS A BIT LIKE POLITICAL REBELLION. THE MORE YOU DIRECTLY TRY TO REPRESS IT, THE STRONGER IT IS GOING TO BECOME, AND THEN YOU END UP IN A VICIOUS CYCLE. IT IS A TRICKY BALANCE TO FIND. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US THIS MORNING. NO PROBLEM. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS IN THERE. YES, IT IS ABOUT CREATING THE ENVIRONMENT. IN SPORTS TEAMS, THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO TRY AND DO ALL OF THE TIME, BUT SECONDLY, IF SOMEONE IS GOSSIPING ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, WHO CARES? IF IT IS ONE OF THOSE ONES THAT IS BORDERLINE VERY DAMAGING OR SOMETHING, YOU SHOULD CALL IT OUT. GOSSET HATE TO BE CALLED OUT, AND GOSSIP IS LOVE YOU SORT OF FEEDING INTO THAT BY GIVING THEM INFORMATION. THEY WILL GO TO PEOPLE AS THE SOURCE OF GOSSIP. AND SOMETIMES THEY WILL REVEL IN THAT. YES, WHICH IS WHY I WALK AWAY. VERY NAUGHTY. SOMETIMES IT CAN GET YOU INTO A LOT OF TROUBLE. SOMEONE I KNOW IN A WORKPLACE ENVIRONMENT... DO WE HAVE TIME? LET'S SAY IT WAS GOSSIP. THEY WERE SAYING, THIS PERSON IS ABSOLUTELY USELESS. IT MIGHT'VE BEEN TRUE, SO MAYBE IT WAS NOT GOSSIP. THEY ACCIDENTALLY TEXTED IT TO THAT PERSON. ANYWAY, THEY NOTICED THAT THE PERSON'S PHONE WAS IN THEIR HANDBAG ON THEIR DESK, AND THEY THOUGHT, OH, SHOULD I GO AND RETRIEVE THAT MESSAGE? WE BASICALLY GOT ANOTHER COLLEAGUE TO RUN INTERFERENCE. THIS WAS NOT AT TVNZ+. THE FRIEND WENT AND STOOD BY THE DOOR, AND SHE WENT OVER AND CHECKED THE PHONE, FLIP PHONE, NO PASSWORD, AND SAW THAT HER MESSAGE ABOUT THIS PERSON BEING USELESS WAS THERE, AND MANAGED TO DELETE IT WHILE THE OTHER COLLEAGUE WAS RUNNING INTERFERENCE AND THEN THEY SCURRIED BACK TO THE DESK AND DID NOT GET CAUGHT. NO HARM DONE. THIS CAN HAPPEN TO THE BEST OF US. WHEN YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT THE PERSON YOU ARE BAGGING OR GOSSIPING ABOUT, AND YOU ARE THINKING WHAT YOU ARE TEXTING OR EMAILING IT, AND YOU SEND IT TO THAT PERSON. CONSEQUENCES. FOUND OUT. IF YOU HAVE HAD THOSE INSTANCES, LET US KNOW. MAYBE THERE HAS BEEN A STRETCH AT WORK WE GOSSIP HAS BEEN TOXIC FOR THE CULTURE. HOW DO YOU FIGURE THAT OUT? IF YOU ARE A MANAGER, HOW HAVE YOU CREATED AN ENVIRONMENT IN YOUR WORKSPACE WHEREBY THAT IS KIND OF NOT ACCEPTABLE, BUT IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE WELL-BEING OF SOMEONE AND HOW WE COMMUNICATE THAT TO A MANAGER OR TO ONE ANOTHER WHEREBY IT IS AN ENVIRONMENT` OR IS IT CARING? NOT OVERBEARING, JUST CARING. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A SLOGAN. PUT IT ON A BUMPER STICKER. TRADE MARK THAT. ME U TONU MAI ` WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK AFTER THE BREAK WITH YOUR 6.30 NEWS. AND THE INTERNATIONAL CLOTHING BRAND WHOSE MODELS HAVE COME UNDER SCRUTINY FOR THEIR WEIGHT. PALESTINIANS IN NEW ZEALAND ARE DEVASTATED TO SEE A WAVE OF DEADLY STRIKES SHATTER THE GAZA CEASEFIRE. MORE THAN 400 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED IN AIRSTRIKES SINCE ISRAEL RESUMED ITS OFFENSIVE YESTERDAY. THE U.S. SAYS IT'S BECAUSE OF HAMAS' FAILURE TO RELEASE MORE HOSTAGES AND NEGOTIATE THE TERMS OF A MORE PERMANENT CEASEFIRE. AS THE HOSTILITIES RESUME, PALESTINIANS HERE SAY IT'S CIVILIANS AND THEIR LOVED ONES WHO ARE PAYING THE HIGHEST PRICE. IT'S NOT A GREAT FUTURE WE ARE MARCHING DOWN, AND WE NEED TO STAND UP FOR EACH OTHER AS HUMAN BEINGS REGARDLESS OF WHAT COLOUR YOU ARE OR WHAT BELIEF SYSTEM YOU HAVE AND ENSURE WE SAFEGUARD OUR FUTURE FOR EVERY MAN, CHILD AND WOMAN AND STOP THIS ONSLAUGHT OF WAR THAT WE SEE RIPPLING ACROSS THE WORLD. SHE SAYS MANY HERE FEEL HELPLESS AS THEY SEE THE DEVASTATION WREAKED ON THE GAZA STRIP. TWO ASTRONAUTS STRANDED IN SPACE FOR NINE MONTHS ARE FINALLY ON THEIR WAY BACK TO EARTH AFTER THEIR INITIAL EIGHT-DAY MISSION WAS UNEXPECTEDLY EXTENDED. RESIDENTS FROM SUNI WILLIAMS' ANCESTRAL VILLAGE PRAYING FOR HER SAFE RETURN AS SHE AND BUTCH WILMORE TRAVEL BACK IN A SPACEX CAPSULE. THE PAIR ARE EXPECTED TO SPLASH DOWN OFF THE FLORIDA COAST AT AROUND 11 O'CLOCK THIS MORNING. A ROAD IN AUCKLAND'S NORTH SHORE HAS REOPENED AFTER A SERIOUS CRASH LAST NIGHT INVOLVING A VEHICLE HITTING A PALM TREE. EMERGENCY SERVICES ARRIVED TO THE SCENE AT BEACH RD JUST BEFORE 8 O'CLOCK, WHERE A PERSON WAS INITIALLY BELIEVED TO HAVE SUSTAINED SERIOUS INJURIES. A POLICE PHOTOGRAPHER COULD BE SEEN SHINING A TORCH INTO THE VEHICLE, WITH SERIOUS CRASH INVESTIGATORS ALSO ON THE SCENE. TO SPORT, AND THE WARRIORS HAVE NAMED THE SAME SQUAD FOR THIS WEEKEND'S MATCH AGAINST THE ROOSTERS, WITH COACH ANDREW WEBSTER BACKING THE TEAM THAT UPSET MANLY LAST WEEK. THE WARRIORS REBOUNDED FROM THEIR DISAPPOINTING VEGAS SEASON OPENER WITH AN EMPHATIC WIN OVER THE SEA EAGLES, RUNNING IN SIX TRIES IN FRONT OF A HOME CROWD. FULLBACK CHARNZE NICOLL KLOKSTAD IS SET TO MAKE HIS 50th NRL APPEARANCE FOR THE WARRIORS THIS WEEKEND. THE GAME GETS UNDERWAY FRIDAY AT 8pm AT MOUNT SMART. UP THE WAHS. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. IT'S LOOKING LIKE ANOTHER GREY DAY. PARTLY CLOUDY WITH PERIODS OF RAIN FOR MOST. HOWEVER, IT WILL BE A FINE START IN GISBORNE AND HAWKES BAY BEFORE TAKING A TURN IN THE EVENING WITH ISOLATED SHOWERS. 22 THE HIGH FOR WHANGAREI. 19 FOR PALMERSTON NORTH. A BIT OF A MIX BAG HERE. A CLOUDY START FOR NELSON. BEFORE CLEARING IN THE AFTERNOON. WIDESPREAD RAIN FOR THE MARLBOROUGH AND CANTERBURY REGIONS. HOWEVER, RAIN WILL EASE TO SHOWERS IN THE LATE MORNING FOR THOSE ALONG THE WEST COAST. A MAINLY FINE DAY APART FROM A FEW LIGHT SHOWERS. 21 THE HIGH FOR QUEENSTOWN. 15 IN KAIKOURA. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE MARKETS. (GROOVY MUSIC) THE UNITED STATES' STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH ITS NEIGHBOUR CANADA IS QUICKLY FIZZLING FOLLOWING DONALD TRUMP'S INTRODUCTION OF TARIFFS. ONCE MAJOR CONTRIBUTORS TO AMERICA'S TOURISM INDUSTRY, NOW AN INCREASING NUMBER OF CANADIANS ARE CHANGING THEIR PLANS TO TRAVEL ANYWHERE BUT THE U.S. THE ABC'S LIONEL MOISE REPORTS. LIKE A GOOD NEIGHBOUR, CANADA HAS SEEMINGLY ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR THE U.S. TOURISM INDUSTRY, BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. I WAS PLANNING A TRIP TO LA TO SEE A FRIEND. HOWEVER, WE DECIDED TO GO TO MEXICO INSTEAD. A NEW SURVEY WARNS 30% OF CANADIANS WHO HAD TRIPS TO THE U.S. PLANNED HAVE NOW CANCELLED THEM, AS TENSIONS RISE BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTRIES FROM THE DISPUTE OVER TARIFFS TRIGGERING BOOS FOR THE AMERICAN ANTHEM. PRESIDENT TRUMP'S TALK OF MAKING CANADA THE 51st STATE. CANADIANS ARE VOWING TO MAKE THEIR VOICES HEARD. IT'S CANADA STRONG, WE CAN STAND UP FOR OURSELVES. WE'VE CALLED OUT THOSE COMMENTS. THEY'RE DISRESPECTFUL. THE THOUSAND ISLANDS AREA ON THE U.S.-CANADA BORDER ALREADY FEELING THE STRAIN. WHAT WE'VE NOTICED IS A LOT OF OUR POTENTIAL VISITORS, PARTICULARLY ON THE CANADIAN SIDE, THEY'RE QUITE ANGRY. THEY'RE QUITE ANGRY, THEY'RE QUITE HURT BY WHAT THEY SEE AS POLICY AND RHETORIC THAT IS ATTACKING. DOLLYWOOD AND OTHER ATTRACTIONS IN TENNESSEE ALSO BRACING. ONE OF OUR TOUR OPERATORS TOLD US IMMEDIATELY SHE LOST ABOUT 30% OF HER BUSINESS TRIPS THAT SHE HAD ALREADY BOOKED TO THE U.S. AIRLINES AFFECTED TOO. CANADA-BASED WESTJET SAYS BOOKINGS TO THE U.S. HAVE FALLEN NEARLY 25%. AND IT'S NOT JUST CANADIANS AVOIDING TRAVEL TO THE U.S. ` ANALYSTS SAY A TRADE WAR WITH EUROPE AND OTHER ALLIES COULD TRIGGER A DROP OF NEARLY 11% IN TRAVEL SPENDING THIS YEAR. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS SAID THE TARIFFS ON CANADA AND EUROPEAN ALLIES PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS SAID THE TARIFFS ON CANADA AND EUROPEAN ALLIES ARE NECESSARY TO RESTORE FAIRNESS TO GLOBAL TRADE AND BRING JOBS BACK TO THE U.S. AND IT'S NOT JUST CANADIANS WHO ARE BOOKING TRIPS ELSEWHERE, WITH A DECLINE IN VISITOR NUMBERS FROM AFRICA, ASIA AND CENTRAL AMERICA ALSO RECORDED IN THE LAST MONTH. ME U TONU MAI ` FASHION MODELS ARE OFTEN CRITICISED FOR PROMOTING UNREALISTIC BODY IMAGES. NEXT, THE BRAND COPPING COMPLAINTS FOR ITS PLUS-SIZE MODELS. HERE'S WHAT'S MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING ` ISRAELI AIRSTRIKES HIT GAZA OVERNIGHT. PALESTINIAN HEALTH AUTHORITIES HAVE REPORTED THE STRIKE KILLED MORE THAN 400 PEOPLE. THIS COMES AFTER BOTH ISRAEL AND HAMAS ACCUSED EACH OTHER OF BREACHING THE TWO-MONTH CEASEFIRE. AND THE ASTRONAUTS THAT HAVE BEEN STRANDED IN SPACE FOR NINE MONTHS ARE NOW ON THEIR JOURNEY BACK TO EARTH. THEY ARE EXPECTED TO LAND OFF THE COAST OF FLORIDA LATE THIS MORNING. A SERIOUS CRASH HAPPENED OVERNIGHT IN AUCKLAND'S BROWNS BAY AFTER A CAR CRASHED INTO A PALM TREE. ALL AFFECTED ROADS HAVE BEEN REOPENED. AN OVERSEAS CLOTHING BRAND SAYS IT'S GETTING MORE THAN 100 COMPLAINTS WITH FEEDBACK THAT ITS ADVERT MODELS ARE 'TOO FAT'. THE 'SNAG' BRAND BEGAN IN SCOTLAND WHEN ITS FOUNDER COULDN'T FIND TIGHTS THAT FIT HER PROPERLY, SO SHE DECIDED TO CREATE HER OWN. BUT HER PLUS-SIZED MODELS HAVE PROMPTED A WAVE OF CRITICISM. SNAG FOUNDER BRIGITTE READ JOINS US NOW FROM OXFORD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US THIS MORNING. WHEN DID YOU START SEEING HIS COMMENTS ROLLING AND ABOUT THE MODELS? THEY HAVE BEEN THERE RIGHT FROM THE START, SINCE WE STARTED ADVERTISING. WE ARE A SIZE INCLUSIVE BRAND, SO WE USE MODELS OF ALL SIZES AND SHAPES. WE HAVE SEEN NEGATIVE COMMENTS THE WHOLE TIME WE HAVE BEEN RUNNING. HOW SURPRISED WERE YOU TO SEE THAT? I THOUGHT PEOPLE WERE NICER THAN THAT, BUT THE INTERNET CAN BE QUITE A HORRIBLE PLACE SOMETIMES. DO YOU THINK THAT IT IS SURPRISING AND THE FACT THAT IT FEELS LIKE IN THIS DAY AND AGE A LOT OF BRANDS AND COMPANIES ARE USING PLUS SIZED MODELS TO MODEL THEIR CLOTHES? AND LOOKS LIKE WE WERE HOPEFULLY TURNING A CORNER, BUT APPARENTLY NOT. THE DIFFERENCE IN WHAT YOU SEE ONLINE NZ MEDIA AND THE MEDIA*� IS VERY STARK FROM WHAT YOU SEE OUTSIDE. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SIZE 16 IN THE UK, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK IN THE MEDIA, YOU DO NOT SEE THEM SO IT STILL COMES AS A SHOCK WHEN YOU SEE SOMEONE THAT IS NOT SUPER SKINNY IN THE MEDIA. I WON'T ASK YOU TO READ SOME OF THE COMMENTS BECAUSE I IMAGINE SOME ARE FOUL, BUT WHAT IS THE TONE GENERALLY? DOES IT GO FROM BEING JESTING TO SINISTER? WITH A COMMENT SAYING THIS PERSON WILL DIE YOUNG, REALLY QUITE TERRIFIC THINGS TO SAY. THE MODELS THEMSELVES, HAVE THEY BEEN PRIVY TO THESE COMMENTS? HOW HAVE THEY REACTED? THAT IS WHY WE INVEST SO MUCH AND DELETING THEM. PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE A SAFE SPACE, AND NO MODEL WHO IS TRYING TO DO REPRESENTATION AND HOW PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY ARE WORTHWHILE SHOULD EVER HAVE TO READ SOMETHING LIKE THAT ABOUT THEM. WE VERY MUCH INVEST IN MAKING SURE ALL OF OUR SPACES ARE AS SAFE AS WE CAN POSSIBLY MAKE THEM, SO WE DELETE ALL OF OUR NEGATIVE COMMENTS AND MAKE IT A HAPPY, POSITIVE SPACE. IS AT ALL YOU CAN DO, DELETE COMMENTS? TWICE I HAVE HAD TO BAN PEOPLE FROM THE ENTIRE WEBSITE AND THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SHOP WITH US ANY MORE BECAUSE OF THE THINGS THEY HAVE SAID, BUT THAT IS ONLY HAPPENED TWICE IN SEVEN YEARS. MOST WE CAN DO IS BAN THEM FROM SOCIAL MEDIA. I SAW AN ADVERT IN THE UK BY NEXT THAT WAS BANNED BY THE ADVERTISEMENT STANDARDS AUTHORITY FOR BEING TOO THIN. AS SUCH THING AS BEING TOO UNHEALTHILY LARGE THE OTHER WAY? I THINK IT'S ABOUT REPRESENTATION. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT ADVERT WAS AT A GLORIFIED BEING SKINNY, AND IT WAS SHOT AND ALTERED IN A WAY THAT MEET THE MODEL LOOKS SMALLER THAN SHE ACTUALLY WASIM. IT WAS TO PUSH BEING SUPER SKINNY, WHICH IS TRIGGERING FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE EATING DISORDERS, INCLUDING ANOREXIA. NOBODY WHO WAS MY SIZE OR BIGGER SAYS, I WANT TO BE YOUR SIZE, I WILL EAT MORE TO BE THAT WAY. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE IN YOUR SIZE, DOES A LOT FOR YOUR MENTAL HEALTH. IT IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF SITUATION. WE DO NOT WANT SOMEONE TO APPEAR BIGGER OR DIFFERENT THAN THEY APPEAR. IT IS ABOUT GENUINE REPRESENTATION, WHEREAS AT ADVERTISEMENT WAS NOT ABOUT USING JUST A SKINNY MODEL, BUT MAKING HER APPEAR EVEN SKINNIER. HAVE YOU HAD SOME ENCOURAGING FEEDBACK? WE HAVE LOTS OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK, WHICH I GUESS IS THE NICE PART OF IT. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE GRATEFUL TO SEE PEOPLE LIKE THEM, REGULAR LOOKING PEOPLE, AND ADVERTS. THIS HELPED THEIR JOURNEY THROUGH SELF ACCEPTANCE, WHICH IS AN AMAZING THING TO SEE AS A BRAND. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US ALL THE WAY FROM OXFORD. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I JUST WANT TO SAY, A BIG UPS TO HER BECAUSE SHE SAID THIS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE INTERVIEW THAT THEY PUT TIME, EFFORT AND MONEY AND TAKING DOWN THE COMMENTS ON THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA. THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPANIES THAT WILL LEAVE THEM THERE, AND IT DOES TAKE A LOT OF RESOURCING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SHE OBVIOUSLY CARES ABOUT THOSE MODELS THAT ARE ON THEIR. SHE CARES AND UNDERSTANDS THAT WHEN PEOPLE READ IT HOW IT MIGHT MAKE THEM FEEL THEY LOOK LIKE THOSE MODELS THAT ARE IN THOSE PICTURES, AND HAS TAKEN THE TIME AND EFFORT TO TAKE DOWN THOSE COMMENTS BUT CAN CONTINUE TO KEEP IT OPEN SO PEOPLE CAN MAKE POSITIVE COMMENTS IF THEY WANT SO. GO YOU. ARE DOES TAKE A LOT OF RESOURCING. WHEN YOU HAVE STUFF ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND THERE IS A PILE ON, SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE TO SHUT OFF THE COMMENTS WHICH IS A SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS. THEY MIGHT BE REALLY PROUD OF THAT PARTICULAR PHOTO OR SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE DONE, AND THEN THROW IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. ALL THOSE COMMENTS THEY FOLLOW BECAUSE OF WHERE YOU HAVE TAKEN IT FROM. GO YOU. E HAERE AKE NEI ` WINSTON PETERS IS ABOUT TO SIT DOWN WITH U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE MARCO RUBIO. NEXT, WE'RE LIVE TO WASHINGTON DC TO FIND OUT WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA. # I FEEL IT COMING. # I FEEL IT COMING. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. WINSTON PETERS IS GEARING UP FOR THE HEADLINE MEETING OF HIS TRIP TO THE UNITED STATES. THE FOREIGN MINISTER HAS BEEN BUSY GETTING ACQUAINTED WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION THIS WEEK, AND IN ABOUT AN HOUR'S TIME, WILL SIT DOWN WITH SECRETARY OF STATE MARCO RUBIO. 1 NEWS U.S. CORRESPONDENT LOGAN CHURCH IS WITH US LIVE FROM WASHINGTON DC. MORENA, LOGAN. WHERE ARE YOU? I AM RIGHT OUTSIDE THE STATE DEPARTMENT. WE ARE ABOUT TO HEAD DOWN AND ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF MINUTES TO GO AND COVER THIS MEETING BETWEEN WINSTON PETERS AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE HAPPENING IN DOWNTOWN DC. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IT HAS BEEN A VERY BUSY COUPLE OF DAYS. LAST YEAR, HE CAME TO DC ON A VERY SIMILAR TRIP, MET PEOPLE IN THE SAME JOBS, BUT THAT WAS ALMOST A TOTALLY DIFFERENT TIME. THAT WAS UNDER JOE BIDEN'S PRESIDENCY. UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP, EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED. ONE OF THE MAIN MISSIONS FOR WINSTON PETERS ON THIS TRIP IS TO TRY AND EFFECTIVELY GET A BIT OF A LAY OF THE LAND. WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING? AS YOU CAN PROBABLY IMAGINE, UKRAINE WILL BE ONE OF THE TOP AGENDA ITEMS. MARCO RUBIO, THE SECRETARY OF STATE IS DONALD TRUMP'S TOP DIPLOMAT, AND HAS BEEN ON THE FRONT END OF DIPLOMATIC MEANS TO GET A CEASEFIRE OVER THE LINE. NEW ZEALAND HAS GIVEN IN THIS GAME AS WELL. WE HAVE PROVIDED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN AID AND ASSISTANCE TO UKRAINE. AND IN RECENT DAYS, OUR PRIME MINISTER HAS BEEN ON PHONE CALLS WITH OTHERWORLDLY EATERS DISCUSSING WHAT A POST CEASEFIRE WOULD LOOK LIKE. WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FROM NEW ZEALAND, WE DO NOT KNOW AT THIS STAGE. THE OTHER BIG AGENDA THAT THE FOREIGN MINISTER HAS BEEN SPEAKING TO PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY ABOUT HAS BEEN THE PACIFIC AND TRYING TO FIND ANSWERS TO THE BIG QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IS THE US PRIORITY WHEN IT COMES TO THE PACIFIC AND ITS ALLIES AND PARTNER COUNTRIES, LIKE NEW ZEALAND AND AUSTRALIA. THERE ARE FEARS THAT THE UNITED STATES WILL BE STEPPING BACK FROM COMMITMENTS IN THE PACIFIC, PARTICULARLY AROUND THE AID THAT IT GIVES. THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF INTERNAL DRAMA SO TO SPEAK. ONE OF THE FIRST MOVED IN DONALD TRUMP'S PRESIDENCY IS TO EFFECTIVELY FREEZE MUCH OF ITS FOREIGN ASSISTANCE THAT WAS COMING THROUGH THE US AGENCY FOR INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENT. THAT IS ALL UNDER REVIEW, BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE PACIFIC, WHICH HAS RECEIVED A LOT OVER THE YEARS? A LOT TO DISCUSS AT THIS MEETING OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT IN JUST UNDER AN HOUR OR SO. JUST UP THE ROAD FROM YOU, DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN ON THE PHONE WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN. HOW HAS THAT GONE? AND WE HAVE FOUND OUT HOW THAT HAS GONE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MINUTES. WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE IS THAT THERE HAS BEEN A PHONE CALL BETWEEN VLADIMIR PUTIN AND DONALD TRUMP. WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT LASTED AROUND 90 MINUTES OR SO. THEY DISCUSSED A RANGE OF TOPICS. AHEAD OF THIS MEETING, DONALD TRUMP SAYS THEY WERE COMING CLOSE TO A CEASEFIRE MIGHT LOOK LIKE, AND A READER FROM THE KREMLIN AND WHITE HOUSE REVEALED THAT THE RUSSIANS HAVE, ACCORDING TO DONALD TRUMP, AGREED TO A TEMPORARY CEASEFIRE WHEN IT COMES TO ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE. ATTACKS ON ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT KIND OF THING GOING FORWARD. IS THAT A TOTAL CEASEFIRE? DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN PROMISING THAT. THERE IS A LOT OF WORK TO STILL GO, BUT IT IS PROGRESS, BUT IT IS VERY SLOW PROGRESS. LOGAN CHURCH JOINING US THIS MORNING. WE KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO HEAD OFF INSIDE FOR THE IMPORTANT MEETING, SO WE DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING WITH US THIS MORNING TO GIVE US A BIT OF AN UPDATE. NO DOUBT YOU WILL HAVE MORE ON THAT MEETING AT 6 O'CLOCK TONIGHT. THANKS, LOGAN. FASCINATING WATCHING HIS STORY LAST NIGHT WITH WINSTON PETERS, TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH THE LANDSCAPE HAS CHANGED SINCE HE WAS LAST THERE AND ASKING MR PETERS WITH A FELT CONFIDENT ABOUT THINGS WHEN IT CAME TO PACIFIC AID, AND WINSTON PETERS SAID THAT HE FEELS MORE CONFIDENT NOW THAN WHAT HE DID GETTING OFF THE PLANE. IT IS A DIFFERENT LANDSCAPE FOR THEM AT THE MOMENT. WE HAVE FEEDBACK COMING IN AS WELL FROM YOU ABOUT GOSSIP. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE RESEARCH BY AN AUT RESEARCHER ABOUT WHAT CONSTITUTES GOSSIP AND HOW DAMAGING IT CAN BE. ESSENTIALLY, THE KEY INGREDIENT IS WHEN THERE IS JUDGEMENT. THAT IS WHEN IT BECOMES GOSSIP. YOU GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT THE SITUATION, WHO HAS GOT THAT JOB, WHO IS GOING FOR THAT JOB ET CETERA, BUT WHEN THERE IS JUDGEMENT THAT COMES INTO THAT OR PERSONAL OPINION, THAT IS WHEN IT STARTS TO MOVE INTO GOSSIP. AND YOU HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU ARE GOSSIPING ABOUT SOMEONE OR YOU INADVERTENTLY TEXT OR CALL THAT PERSON. ANONYMOUS SAID THEY ANSWERED A PHONE CALL TO HEAR MY SISTER-IN-LAW TALKING TO MY BROTHER. I KEPT REPEATING HELLO, HELLO, I GOT NO REPLY. IT WAS A POCKET DIAL. MY SISTER-IN-LAW WAS BASICALLY LYING TO MY BROTHER ABOUT A CONVERSATION WE HAD HAD, TELLING A BUNCH OF LIES AND CALLING ME A LOT OF NAMES. SHE REALISED SHE HAD RUN HER BY MISTAKE, HUNG UP AND RUNNING THE BROTHER AND TOLD THEM WHAT HAD HAPPENED. THEY DID NOT SPEAK FOR FIVE YEARS AFTER THAT. AWKWARD. KIND OF CLEARS THE AIR, DOESN'T IT? NOW YOU KNOW. AFTER THE FIVE YEARS, MAYBE THERE IS AN ALIMENT OF CATHARSIS AND YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THINGS OFF YOUR CHEST. THE THING ABOUT THOSE SORTS OF THINGS THAT AFTER FIVE YEARS, THEY PROBABLY CANNOT REMEMBER. I SUSPECT THAT SHE CAN. I SUSPECT SHE KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS ABOUT. IT CAN BE VERY DAMAGING. AND IN WORKPLACES, IT IS LIKE YOU ARE SAYING AS WELL ABOUT WHEN IT IS NECESSARY, BECAUSE IF IT IS ABOUT FOSTERING AN OPEN CULTURE AT WORK OR IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO BRING TO THE MANAGERS ATTENTION, THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY CONSTITUTE GOSSIP. NO, BUT IT IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU ACTUALLY CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT LIKE THAT WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS WITHOUT FEELING LIKE THEY ARE BEING JUDGED. THAT IS ALWAYS A DIFFICULT ONE, NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF AREA YOU ARE IN. THIS IS SOMETHING WE DEAL WITH AND SUPPORT ALL OF THE TIME. AND I HAD IT WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WANTING TO FOSTER AN OPEN AND HONEST ENVIRONMENT, AND NOBODY IS GOING TO BE HONEST. YOU WANT THAT PERSON WHO WANTS THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHO IS DOING WHAT AND WHAT IS GOING ON, THE SERIAL OFFICE GOSSIP. DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH GOING ON IN YOUR LIFE? KEEP THE FEEDBACK COMING IN. COMING UP THIS HOUR ` AUCKLAND COUNCIL NEEDS MORE SPACE FOR GRAVES, WITH ITS CEMETERIES NEARING CAPACITY. BUT PLANS FOR A NEW SITE WEST OF THE CITY HAS BEEN MET WITH STIFF OPPOSITION. WE'LL HEAR FROM ONE OF THE GROUPS AGAINST THE MOVE. CHRIS HIPKINS ALSO JOINS US. HOW WOULD LABOUR GET MORE PEOPLE OFF THE JOBSEEKER BENEFIT. PLUS, BIG NEWS FOR SAILING FANS. WE'LL HAVE AN IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT JUST BEFORE 8. BUT RIGHT NOW, IT'S 7 O'CLOCK. TIME FOR THE NEWS. MORE THAN 400 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED IN AIRSTRIKES SINCE ISRAEL RESUMED ITS OFFENSIVE YESTERDAY. THE ISRAELI DEFENCE FORCE CLAIMS IT WAS HITTING 'TERROR TARGETS' THROUGHOUT THE STRIP. THE U.S. SAYS HAMAS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RESUMPTION IN HOSTILITIES, BLAMING THE GROUP'S FAILURE TO RELEASE MORE HOSTAGES AND NEGOTIATE THE TERMS OF A MORE PERMANENT CEASEFIRE. HAMAS HAS ACCUSED ISRAEL OF ATTACKING CIVILIANS, AND SAYS THE U.S. ALSO BEARS BLAME AFTER THE WHITE HOUSE CONFIRMED IT WAS CONSULTED BEFORE ISRAEL CARRIED OUT THE AIR STRIKES. AUCKLAND AIRPORT SAYS IT'S PARTNERED WITH INDIA'S DELHI AIRPORT TO GROW TRADE AND TOURISM AS THE PRIME MINISTER CONTINUES HIS STATE VISIT IN INDIA. A FREE TRADE DEAL WITHIN 60 TO 90 DAYS WAS THE FRIENDLY CHALLENGE LAID DOWN, WITH OFFICIAL NEGOTIATIONS ANNOUNCED EARLIER THIS WEEK, BUT CHRISTOPHER LUXON HAS WATERED DOWN EXPECTATIONS OF A LIGHTNING BOLT DEAL. POLITICAL EDITOR MAIKI SHERMAN FILED THIS REPORT. THERE'S BEEN PLENTY OF EXCITEMENT THIS WEEK. FIRST WITH THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF TRADE NEGOTIATIONS GETTING UNDERWAY, BUT THEN THE FRIENDLY JIBES AND DECLARATIONS FROM GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, INCLUDING INDIA'S COMMERCE MINISTER, THAT PERHAPS A DEAL COULD BE DONE WITHIN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS. NOW, CHRISTOPHER LUXON AND HIS TRADE MINISTER TODD McCLAY WERE QUICK TO TEMPER EXPECTATIONS. THEY SAY THAT A GOOD DEAL IS BETTER THAN A FAST DEAL WHEN IT COMES TO NEW ZEALAND. POLICE HAVE CONFIRMED A MALE HAS DIED AFTER A SERIOUS CRASH IN THE AUCKLAND SUBURB OF BROWNS BAY LAST NIGHT. A SINGLE VEHICLE HIT A TREE JUST BEFORE 8pm, WITH THE SOLE MALE OCCUPANT KILLED IN THE INCIDENT. POLICE PHOTOGRAPHERS AND SERIOUS CRASH INVESTIGATORS WERE ON THE SCENE LAST NIGHT, AND THE ROAD IS BACK OPEN THIS MORNING. SEVERAL WHITE FERNS STARS ARE SET TO RETURN FOR THE UPCOMING T20 SERIES AGAINST AUSTRALIA. SOPHIE DEVINE HAS BEEN NAMED IN THE SQUAD, MARKING HER RETURN TO CRICKET AFTER TAKING A WELLBEING BREAK IN JANUARY. SHE'LL BE JOINED BY FELLOW VETERAN LEA TAHUHU, WHO'S BEEN OUT WITH A HAMSTRING INJURY SINCE DECEMBER, AND MELIE KERR, WHO HAS JUST WON THE WOMEN'S PREMIER LEAGUE WITH THE MUMBAI INDIANS. THE FIRST T20 GETS UNDERWAY ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE MARKETS. (FUNKY MUSIC) AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. IT'S LOOKING LIKE ANOTHER GREY DAY. PARTLY CLOUDY WITH PERIODS OF RAIN FOR MOST. HOWEVER, IT WILL BE A FINE START IN GISBORNE AND HAWKE'S BAY BEFORE TAKING A TURN IN THE EVENING WITH ISOLATED SHOWERS. 22 THE HIGH FOR WHANGAREI. 19 FOR PALMERSTON NORTH. A BIT OF A MIXED BAG HERE. A CLOUDY START FOR NELSON BEFORE CLEARING IN THE AFTERNOON. WIDESPREAD RAIN FOR THE MARLBOROUGH AND CANTERBURY REGIONS. HOWEVER, RAIN WILL EASE TO SHOWERS IN THE LATE MORNING.REGION FOR THOSE ALONG THE WEST COAST, A MAINLY FINE DAY APART FROM A FEW LIGHT SHOWERS. 21 THE HIGH FOR QUEENSTOWN. 15 IN KAIKOURA. THANKS, JENNY-MAY. OPPOSITION IS GROWING AGAINST PLANS FOR A 25,000 PLOT CEMETERY IN AUCKLAND, WITH ITS CEMETERIES NEARING CAPACITY. AUCKLAND COUNCIL WANTS TO ACQUIRE A 172ha SITE NEAR KUMEU, WEST OF THE CITY, UNDER THE PUBLIC WORKS ACT. THE FARMER WHO OWNS THE LAND OPPOSES THE MOVE, AS DOES LOCAL HAPU, TE TAOU, BECAUSE THE LAND INCLUDES THEIR ANCESTRAL MAUNGA, AND THEY ONLY DISCOVERED THE COUNCIL PLAN THROUGH A FACEBOOK POST. LUANN TAPU FROM THE REWETI MARAE JOIN US NOW. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THIS LAND MEANS FOR YOU? THE CHIEF OF TE TAOU WE ARE A PART OF THE HARPU. HE HAD ALREADY GIFTED THE PRIMARY SCHOOL THE RIVERHEAD RAILWAY AND ALSO A CEMETERY IN HELENSVILLE. SO WE ARE CONNECTED TO THE LAND THROUGH OUR HAPU AND WE HAVE GIFTED THE LAND THROUGH OUR TUPUNA AND WE ARE CONNECTED THROUGH OUR MOUNTAIN AND RIVER. IT MEANS A LOT TO US TO BE A PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS AROUND WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE. ORGAN COUNCIL SAYS IT HAS A STATUTORY DUTY TO ENSURE ADEQUATE CEMETERY FOR THE CITY. THIS IS THIS WHAT THEY HAVE CHOSEN. HOW MUCH OF A SHOCK HAZARD INTO THE COMMUNITY? THE COMMUNITY IS UPSET. ALSO ABOUT HOW WE FOUND OUT AND ALSO THEY HAVE NOT MET WITH US. WE HAVE INVITED THE COUNCIL TO MEET WITH US ON OUR MARAE TO DISCUSS WHAT THEY COULD LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD. I UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT IS STILL SITTING WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL COURT, AND ONCE A DECISION IS MADE, THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE DISCUSSIONS. THEY HAVE SAID THAT THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THE DIRECT ENGAGEMENT WITH LOCAL IWI AND HAPU. IT SHOULD HAVE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE. CORRECT. IS THAT ENOUGH FOR YOU TO HAVE THAT ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, OR IS A LITTLE BIT TOO LATE? THEY DID ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS A LOOPHOLE IN THE SYSTEM, AND I CAN APPRECIATE THAT PERSONALLY. AND THE MEETING WAS VERY POSITIVE. I HAVE HAD TWO MEETINGS WITH THEM LAST WEEK. THERE WERE NINE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COUNCIL. NICK FROM THE COUNCIL WAS VERY POSITIVE, AND I AM HOPEFUL AND HAVE GOOD FAITH THAT WE WILL GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THEM IF IT IS SUCCESSFUL, AND WE WILL HAVE WANANGA AND WE WILL TALK WITH MANA WHENUA AND I AM HOPEFUL THAT THINGS WILL BE GOOD FOR US. IT IS SUCH A BLUNTED SHIPMENT, ISN'T IT, THIS ACT THAT BASICALLY LETS COUNCILS OR GOVERNING BODIES TAKE LAND FOR A PURPOSE THAT THEY NEED FOR. YOU ACCEPT THAT THERE IS THE NEED FOR THE SPACE? I FEEL THAT... THAT IS GETTING A LITTLE BIT AHEAD. AT THIS POINT, OUR PEOPLE ARE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO TAUWHARE. THE LAND THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO ACQUIRE SEPARATES US FROM PHYSICALLY ACCESSING TAUWHARE AT THE MOMENT, AS IT IS PRIVATELY OWNED. MOVING FORWARD, THERE POSSIBLY COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE CAN PHYSICALLY ACCESS OUR MOUNTAIN WHICH WOULD BE AMAZING, AND ALSO I THINK IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO MENTION THE BUS ACCIDENT, THAT OUR PEOPLE SUFFERED IN 1963 THE BUS RETURNED BACK FROM WAITANGI AND 15 OF OUR WHANAU WERE KILLED. AND FOR GENERATIONS WERE WIPED OUT. MY FATHER WOULD LIVES ON MOUNT MCPIKE'S ROAD, WHICH IS THE LAND THAT THEY WANT TO ACQUIRE, SO THERE IS A LOT OF TRAUMA AND GRIEF THAT WE ARE ALREADY SUFFERING THROUGH AND HAVE BEEN FOR DECADES, SO THIS IS JUST MORE PAIN ON TOP OF EXISTING PAIN. IT RUNS QUITE DEEPER THAN THE PUBLIC WORKS ACT. THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE ON TOP OF WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY EXPERIENCED, AND WE ARE STILL HEALING FROM THAT. IT WILL BE REALLY INTERESTING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL ABOUT PAST TRAUMA, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO SUPPORT US WITH THAT PLUS MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE NEW IDEAS AROUND WANTING MORE LAND, BECAUSE WE HAVE ALREADY GIVEN IT OVER. THERE IS ALSO THE 12,000 HA THAT WERE TAKEN FOR THE WOODHILL FORESTRY BACK IN THE 1920S. IT IS BIGGER THAN THAT. IT IS BIGGER THAN THIS TAKE. HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO YOU THAT YOU MAINTAIN A CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGUE WITH COUNCIL AND NOT HAVE IT DESCENDED TO BEING ANTAGONISTIC? I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT. I THINK MOVING FORWARD THAT THEY WILL DO THAT FOR US. IT WAS A VERY POSITIVE MEETING. I WAS AT PEACE WITH THE OUTCOME. I AM HOPEFUL. I THINK THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET THERE. THE PUBLIC WORKS ACT, IT HAS BEEN USED BEFORE IN COMMUNITIES, AND THEY HAVE BEEN UPSET ABOUT IT BEFORE. HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU THAT YOU WILL BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF IT THIS TIME? HOW CONFIDENT? OOH, THAT IS A BIG ONE. I CANNOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I AM JUST GOING TO STICK WITH THEIR INTENTIONS, THEY HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE IS A LOOPHOLE THAT THEY WANT TO WORK AND IMPROVE, SO LET'S SEE. LET'S SEE THAT THE IMPROVEMENT IS MADE. WE TAKE ONE STEP AT A TIME, AND IN GOODWILL THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US THIS MORNING. E HAERE AKE NEI ` LABOUR LEADER CHRIS HIPKINS JOINS US NEXT. HOW WOULD HE COMBAT RISING UNEMPLOYMENT AND AN INCREASING NUMBER OF PEOPLE CLAIMING THE JOBSEEKER BENEFIT? # I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. # EVERY LITTLE THING THAT YOU SAY OR DO WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. HERE'S WHAT'S MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING ` THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP AND RUSSIAN COUNTERPART VLADIMIR PUTIN HAVE AGREED TO A LIMITED CEASEFIRE IN UKRAINE. A MAN HAS DIED FOLLOWING A SERIOUS CRASH IN AUCKLAND'S BROWNS BAY LAST NIGHT. AND A OVERSEAS CLOTHING BRAND SAYS IT'S GETTING MORE THAN 100 COMPLAINTS WITH FEEDBACK THAT ITS MODELS ARE 'TOO FAT'. THE OWNER SAYS THIS BEHAVIOUR IS DETRIMENTAL TO INDIVIDUALS' MENTAL HEALTH. THE ECONOMIC OUTLOOK OVER THE PAST YEAR HAS BEEN RATHER GRIM. THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE CONTINUES TO CLIMB, INCREASED KIWISAVER WITHDRAWALS BECAUSE OF FINANCIAL HARDSHIP, AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE JOBSEEKER BENEFIT IS ON THE RISE. LATEST FIGURES FOR FEBRUARY SHOW 22,000 MORE PEOPLE RECEIVED THE JOBSEEKER BENEFIT THAN A YEAR AGO, AN INCREASE OF NEARLY 12%, AND SANCTIONS FOR PEOPLE ON THAT BENEFIT HAVE NEARLY DOUBLED IN THE YEAR TO DECEMBER. LABOUR LEADER CHRIS HIPKINS JOINS US NOW. GOOD MORNING. WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THESE FIGURES? IS IT INEVITABLE WHEN UNEMPLOYMENT IS AT 5.1%? I THINK WE HAVE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET NEW ZEALANDERS BACK INTO WORK, THAT MEANS MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE CREATING JOBS AND THE RIGHT CONDITIONS WHETHER AN ABUNDANCE OF JOBS TO GET ON SO. TO LOOK AT AREAS LIKE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION, THERE ARE 13,000 FEWER JOBS NOW THAN THERE WERE ON ELECTION DAY A YEAR AND 1/2 AGO. ONE OF THE BIG REASONS FOR THAT IS AT THE GOVERNMENT STOPS BUILDING STUFF. THEY HAVE DIALLED BACK STATE HOUSEBUILDING AND SCHOOL UPGRADES AND HOSPITAL PROJECTS, EVEN RODENT PROJECTS. ULTIMATELY, THE PEOPLE THAT WERE DOING THAT WORK OF LOST THEIR JOBS. I THINK THAT THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO TAKE ITS FOOT OFF THE THROAT OF THE NEW ZEALAND JOB ECONOMY AND GET KIWIS BACK TO WORK. HOW REALISTIC IS IT YOU THINK THAT THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO CUT THOSE JOBSEEKER NUMBERS BY 50,000 IN FIVE YEARS? DOING ITS PART MEANS WE RESTART THE STATE HOUSING PROGRAM. THAT WOULD SOLVE THE HOMELESS PROBLEM IF WE CONTINUE TO BUILD A NEW STATE HOUSES AT THE RATE WERE BUILDING UNDER THE LAST GOVERNMENT, RESTART THOSE SCHOOL AND HOSPITAL PROJECTS, GETS IN TRANSPORT PROJECTS UNDERWAY RATHER THAN TALKING ABOUT GAME ABOUT THEM. THOSE THINGS AND MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. THE ELECTRICITY MARKET AND THE HUGE SPIKE AND ELLA CHRISTIE PRICES THAT WE HAVE SEEN IS COST A LOT OF KIWIS JOBS, PARTICULARLY IN THE MANUFACTURING AND PROCESSING AREA. THEY SHUT UP SHOP BECAUSE IT IS TOO EXPENSIVE TO DO BUSINESS WITH HIGHER POWER PRICES. THAT YOU DEAL WITH THAT, YOU WILL FIND MORE KIWIS GETTING BACK INTO WORK. BUT TALK ABOUT SANCTIONS FOR THOSE THAT ARE ON THE BENEFITS. THEY HAVE NEARLY DOUBLED OVER THE PAST YEAR. ARE THEY WORKING, OR IS IT MAKING LIFE HARDER FOR BENEFICIARIES? DOES NOT THAT THESE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO WORK, IT IS THAT THEY HAVE MISSED APPOINTMENTS. THAT IS WHAT THE SANCTIONS ARE FOR. I THINK IT IS NOT RECOGNISING THE CURRENT ECONOMIC CLIMATE. PEOPLE ON THE BENEFIT THAT WANT TO WORK BUT SIMPLY CANNOT FIND THAT WORK, AND SECTIONING THEM WILL NOT CHANGE THAT REALITY. YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE IS WORK FOR THEM TO GO TO, AND AT THE MOMENT, THERE IS NOT. SANCTIONS TO HAVE A PLACE IN THE BENEFIT SYSTEM, BUT I THINK APPLYING THEM BROADLY WHEN WORK IS IN SHORT SUPPLY SEEMS PARTICULARLY CRUEL TO ME. TAKING ALL OF THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION, WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE IS GLOBAL ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY. HOW MUCH OF THE RISE AND JOBSEEKER NUMBERS SHOULD BE PUT ON THIS GOVERNMENT AND TAKING INTO CONTEXT WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND THE WORLD AT THE MOMENT? I THINK IT'S THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE HELD TO THE STANDARD THEY SET FOR THEMSELVES. THEY SAID THAT INFLATION AND UNEMPLOYMENT, ALL THE ECONOMIC INDICATORS ARE SOLELY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNMENT AND NOTHING TO DO WITH INTERNATIONAL FACTORS. THAT IS A STANDARD THEY SET FOR THE LAST GOVERNMENT SO THEY NEED TO SPLIT UP TO THOSE STANDARDS THEMSELVES. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE GET KIWIS INTO WORK. THEY CREATING THE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS WERE MORE KIWIS ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS. CAN WE TALK ABOUT KIWI SAVER AND KIWIS GOING INTO RETIREMENT? THERE WAS A RETIREMENT COMMISSIONER REPORT RELEASED. MANY RETIRING HAVE LESS THAN 10,000 IN THEIR BANK ACCOUNT. IS KIWI SAVER WORKING FOR RETIREES? I THINK IT IS FANTASTIC, BUT WE SHOULD TAKE A LEAF OUT OF THE AUSTRALIAN SPOKE. I MENTION THIS IN MY STATE OF THE NATION SPEECH TWO WEEKS AGO. AUSTRALIA INCREASED THEIR RATE OF SAVINGS A LONG TIME AGO, THEY NOW HAVE MUCH HIGHER SAVINGS THAN NEW ZEALAND. THAT IS REALLY GOOD FOR THE AUSTRALIAN CONNIE AND GOOD FOR AUSTRALIANS WHEN THEY REACHED THE RETIREMENT AGE. NEED A MORE CONSISTENT APPROACH TO KIWI SAVER SO WE ARE INCREASING OUR RETIREMENT SAVINGS OVER TIME. THE NATIONAL PARTY'S TRACK RECORD IS THE OPPOSITE. THEY CUT KIWI SAVER AND HALF WERNICKE GOVERNMENT WAS IN PARLIAMENT. WE SHOULD BE AIMING TO INCREASE OUR RETIREMENT SAVINGS AS A COUNTRY. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? ARE YOU SAYING AND INCREASING CONTRIBUTION OF EMPLOYER'S AND EMPLOYEES? SHOULD GO TO 6%? IT IS WORK FOR THE AUSTRALIANS, WHICH IS TO INCREASE IT BY SMALL AMOUNTS EACH YEAR OVER TIME SUCH STARTS TO BUILD UP. AUSTRALIANS ARE UP TO 13%. THEY DID THAT OVER QUITE A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. THEY ARE INCREASINGLY CONTRIBUTION. BY HALF A PERCENT EVERY YEAR. NEW ZEALAND NEEDS TO LOOK AT SOMETHING WHERE OVER TIME THEY STEADILY INCREASE THE AMOUNT WE ARE PUTTING AWAY IN OUR RETIREMENT SAVINGS. WHILST YOU ARE NOT DRAWING DOWN ON RETIREMENT SAVINGS, THEY ARE GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY BECAUSE THEY CREATE A POOL OF CAPITAL THEY COMMIT INVESTED. YOU GET MORE MONEY AND RETIREMENT, AND YOU CAN CREATE MORE IN THE MEANTIME. WOMEN HAVE LESS KIWI SAVER THAN MEN. HOW WOULD LABOUR FIX THAT GAP? WE NEED TO LOOK AT MAKING SURE WE DEAL WITH THE GENDER PAY GAP THAT UNDERLIES ALL OF THAT. IN TERMS OF THE ISSUES AROUND OTHER THINGS LIKE A WOMAN TAKING LEAVE FROM THE WORKFORCE FOR MATERNITY LEAVE AND SO ON, MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE CLOSING THE GAP, WHICH IS WHAT WERE FOCUSED ON WHEN WE WERE IN GOVERNMENT. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WE KEEP ON DOING THAT. THE GOVERNMENT IS REVIEWING SPEED LIMITS INSTEAD OF RAISING THEM AUTOMATICALLY. THERE ARE 16 AREAS UP FOR COMMUNITY CONSULTATION. IS AT A GOOD CALL BY THE GOVERNMENT? I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMMATURE THINGS THE GOVERNMENT DID WHEN THEY BECAME THE GOVERNMENT WAS START BANGING ON ABOUT SPEED LIMITS AND THAT THERE SHOULD BE BLANKET INCREASES AND THAT A LOWER SPEED LIMITS WERE ALWAYS A BAD THING. THEY CAN OFTEN BE GOOD REASONS FOR DECREASING SPEED LIMITS. WE SHOULD LET THE EXPERTS DO THAT. I THINK THE GOVERNMENT TRIED TO TURN IT INTO A POLITICAL FOOTBALL, AND IT WAS AN IMMATURITY WANTS. SAFETY FIRST, WITH THE EXPERTS DETERMINE WHAT THE SPEED LIMITS ARE. I KNOW YOU ARE HEADING OFF TO DUNEDIN THIS MORNING. YESTERDAY, ACT ANNOUNCED THEY WANT CANDIDATES IN LOCAL ELECTIONS. DO COUNCILS NEED A BIT OF A SHAKEUP? I THINK LOCAL GOVERNMENT COULD ALWAYS DO WITH A BIT OF AN INJECTION OF TALENT. I'M NOT SURE YOU'LL GET THAT FROM THE ACT PARTY. IF I WAS DAVID SEYMOUR, I WOULD FOCUS ON DOING HIS ACTUAL JOB BETER. YOU ARE HEADING TO DUNEDIN AND THEN APPEAR TO AUCKLAND TO TALK ABOUT JOBS. WHAT IS YOUR FOCUS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS? I WILL BE VISITING A NUMBER OF LARGE EMPLOYERS WHO ARE AT THE CUTTING-EDGE OF INNOVATION. THERE IS AN ECOSYSTEM OF THAT AND IS IN EDEN. I'M GOING TO VISIT SOME OF THE FIRMS INVOLVED IN THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS PART OF NEW ZEALAND'S FUTURE ECONOMIC GROWTH ` OUR TECH SECTOR, OUR INNOVATORS, ENTREPRENEURS, SCIENCE SECTOR, CREATIVE INDUSTRIES. THAT IS WHERE WE CAN GROW MORE JOBS. I WILL BE DOING THAT DOWN IN DUNEDIN. UP IN AUCKLAND, I HAVE SOME VISITS AS WELL. WELL DONE WITH ALL OF THE DISTRACTIONS. YOU HAVE A LITTLE ONE RUNNING AROUND IN THE BACKGROUND AT THE AIRPORT. WELL DONE, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. NOT CRYING, ALWAYS A GOOD THING. THAT'S RIGHT. A MURI I NGA WHAKATAIRANGA ` YOUR 7.30 NEWS, SPORT AND WEATHER. # IF THIS AIN'T A LOVE. # WHY DOES IT FEEL LIKE... MORENA, KI A KOUTOU KATOA. TAMAKI MAKAURAU AUCKLAND, KIRIKIRIROA HAMILTON, 19, PARTLY CLOUDY, WITH A FEW SHOWERS, POSSIBLY HEAVY TOWARDS MIDDAY. THIS IS BALLOONS OVER WAIKATO. IT WAS TOO WINDY YESTERDAY... SOME ARE LAUNCHING AGAIN BUT THIS IS IN FRONT OF THE HAMILTON LAKE. LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE COUNTING DOWN. ANYBODY IN HAMILTON WILL LOVE THIS TIME OF THE YEAR. TE WHANGANUI-A-TARA WELLINGTON, 16, SHOWERS TURNING TO RAIN THIS MORNING, THEN EASING AND BECOMING ISOLATED SHOWERS THIS EVENING. FRESH SOUTHERLIES, STRENGTHENING THIS EVENING. CHRISTCHURCH, 17, MOSTLY CLOUDY WITH ISOLATED SHOWERS. FINE SPELLS DEVELOPING THIS MORNING THEN SHOWERS CLEARING THIS AFTERNOON. FRESH SOUTHWESTERLIES, EASING THIS AFTERNOON. HOW CLEAR IS THAT PICTURE? THAT IS A GOOD CAMERA. IT HAS HAD A BIT OF A WASH. THE OLD SPRAY AND WIPE ONTO IT. # SO, DARLING, HOLD MY HAND. SO EARLIER THIS MORNING, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GOSSIP AND WHAT CONSTITUTES GOSSIP, BUT ALSO, WHEN YOU ARE GOSSIPING, WHEN IT GOES A LITTLE BIT AWRY AND YOU SEND IT TO THE PERSON YOU ARE GOSSIPING ABOUT. WILL GET TO THAT FEEDBACK, BUT RIGHT NOW, NEWS. RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN HAS AGREED TO A TEMPORARY PAUSETHE ON STRIKING UKRAINIAN ENERGY TARGETS FOLLOWING A PHONE CALL WITH HIS U.S. COUNTERPART. THE PAUSE WILL LAST FOR 30 DAYS AND THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS FRESH PEACE TALKS WILL NOW BEGIN IMMEDIATELY. ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE IN UKRAINE HAS BEEN HIT THROUGHOUT THE WAR, RESULTING IN BLACKOUTS AND FREEZING CONDITIONS. UKRAINE ACCEPTED THE U.S. CEASEFIRE PROPOSAL LAST WEEK, WITH PRIME MINISTER VOLODMYR ZELENSKY NOW IN FINLAND TO DISCUSS DEFENCE SUPPORT. TRAUMA, FEAR AND DEVASTATION ` THAT'S THE STATE OF MIND OF MANY PALESTINIANS HERE AS THEY WATCH HOSTILITIES RESUME IN GAZA. MORE THAN 400 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED IN AIRSTRIKES SINCE ISRAEL RESUMED ITS OFFENSIVE YESTERDAY. THE U.S. SAYS IT'S BECAUSE OF HAMAS' FAILURE TO RELEASE MORE HOSTAGES AND NEGOTIATE THE TERMS OF A MORE PERMANENT CEASEFIRE. THE RE-ESCALATION IN THE CONFLICT HAS LEFT KIWI-PALESTINIANS FEELING HELPLESS. WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF PHYSICAL DIFFICULTIES. THERE ARE HEART PROBLEMS, WE CAN'T SLEEP, WE CAN'T EAT, THERE'S ANXIETY ATTACKS, BREAKDOWNS. IT'S INDESCRIBABLE TO SEE THE DESTRUCTION AND THE DEHUMANIZATION. SHE'S CALLING ON THOSE IN POWER TO DO MORE TO BRING THE CONFLICT TO AN END. POLICE HAVE CONFIRMED A MAN HAS DIED AFTER A SERIOUS CRASH IN THE AUCKLAND SUBURB OF BROWNS BAY LAST NIGHT. A SINGLE VEHICLE HIT A TREE JUST BEFORE 8pm, WITH THE SOLE OCCUPANT KILLED IN THE INCIDENT. POLICE PHOTOGRAPHERS AND SERIOUS CRASH INVESTIGATORS WERE ON THE SCENE LAST NIGHT, AND THE ROAD IS BACK OPEN THIS MORNING. IT WAS THE THIRD ROAD FATALITY IN ONE DAY FOLLOWING AN EARLIER SERIOUS CRASH IN TARANAKI THAT KILLED TWO PEOPLE. THE PROFESSIONAL TENNIS PLAYERS' ASSOCIATION HAS BEGUN LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THE SPORT'S TOURS, ACCUSING THEM OF ANTI COMPETITIVE PRACTICES AND DISREGARDING PLAYER WELFARE. THE UNION, WHICH WAS CO-FOUNDED BY NOVAK DJOKOVIC, FILED A LAWSUIT IN NEW YORK AGAINST THE MEN'S ATP AND THE WOMEN'S WTA. THE LAWSUIT CLAIMS THE TOURS HAVE TOO MUCH POWER OVER THE SPORT, PLAYERS ARE BEING EXPLOITED, AND THE SCHEDULE IS UNSUSTAINABLE. THE UNION'S SEEKING A JURY TRIAL AND WILL ALSO BEGIN LEGAL PROCEEDINGS IN THE UK AND EU. WOW, I WANT TO HOW THAT IS GOING TO CHANGE THE GAME, POTENTIALLY. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE MARKETS. (GROOVY MUSIC) AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. IT'S LOOKING LIKE ANOTHER GREY DAY. PARTLY CLOUDY WITH PERIODS OF RAIN FOR MOST. HOWEVER, IT WILL BE A FINE START IN GISBORNE AND HAWKE'S BAY BEFORE TAKING A TURN IN THE EVENING WITH ISOLATED SHOWERS. 22 THE HIGH FOR WHANGAREI. 19 FOR PALMERSTON NORTH. A BIT OF A MIXED BAG HERE. A CLOUDY START FOR NELSON BEFORE CLEARING IN THE AFTERNOON. WIDESPREAD RAIN FOR THE MARLBOROUGH AND CANTERBURY REGIONS. HOWEVER, RAIN WILL EASE TO SHOWERS IN THE LATE MORNING. FOR THOSE ALONG THE WEST COAST, A MAINLY FINE DAY APART FROM A FEW LIGHT SHOWERS. 21 THE HIGH FOR QUEENSTOWN. 15 IN KAIKOURA. TWO AMERICAN ASTRONAUTS WHO HAVE BEEN STRANDED ON THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION FOR NINE MONTHS HAVE BEGUN THEIR JOURNEY BACK TO EARTH. SUNI WILLIAMS AND BUTCH WILMORE'S MISSION WAS SUPPOSED TO LAST EIGHT DAYS, BUT TECHNICAL ISSUES PREVENTED THEIR RETURN HOME UNTIL NOW. THE BBC'S REBECCA MORELLE REPORTS. AFTER MORE THAN NINE MONTHS IN SPACE, A FOND FAREWELL AS BUTCH WILMORE AND SUNI WILLIAMS' MISSION FINALLY COMES TO A CLOSE. INSIDE THEIR SpaceX CAPSULE, FINAL PREPARATIONS ARE UNDERWAY FOR BUTCH AND SUNI AND TWO OTHER CREWMATES WHO ARE SHARING THE RIDE HOME. RT: FREEDOM SpaceX ON THE BIG LOOP. UNDOCK SEQUENCE COMMANDED. RT: TO CREW-9, SAFE JOURNEY HOME. IT'S BEEN THE HONOUR OF A LIFETIME TO CROSS YOUR PATH UP HERE ON SPACE STATION, AND WE'LL MISS YOU, BUT HAVE A GREAT JOURNEY HOME. BUTCH AND SUNI'S MISSION BEGAN LAST JUNE... THREE, TWO, ONE, IGNITION, AND LIFT-OFF OF STARLINER. ...BUT THE SPACECRAFT THEY WERE TRAVELLING ON, MADE BY BOEING, SUFFERED TECHNICAL PROBLEMS, AND IT WAS DEEMED TOO RISKY TO BRING THEM BACK TO EARTH. IT MEANT THEIR EIGHT-DAY MISSION WAS DRAMATICALLY EXTENDED. THE NASA PAIR HAVE MADE THE MOST OF THEIR STAY, CARRYING OUT AN ARRAY OF EXPERIMENTS AND GOING ON A SPACEWALK, WITH SUNI BREAKING THE RECORD FOR THE MOST HOURS SPENT OUTSIDE OF THE SPACE STATION, AND THERE WAS EVEN A CHANCE TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS THAT THEY'D PLANNED TO HAVE AT HOME. SO FROM ALL OF US TO ALL OF YOU... ALL: MERRY CHRISTMAS. ALL OF THAT'S NOW BEHIND THEM. THEY WILL FEEL, FIRST OF ALL, FANTASTIC TO BE BACK ON EARTH. SO THE FRESH AIR IS THE FIRST THING THAT GETS YOU, REALLY, BUT THEN OF COURSE, THEIR BODIES WILL HAVE SUFFERED IN SPACE ` SO PARTICULARLY BONE LOSS, MUSCLE LOSS AS WELL. THEIR HORMONES BALANCE WILL BE SORT OF ALL CHANGED. MICROBIOME WILL BE CHANGED. SO ALL OF THAT WILL HAVE TO, LET'S SAY, GET BACK TO NORMAL. RT: FREEDOM SpaceX ON THE BIG LOOP, PART BURN ZERO NOMINAL. WITH A BLAST OF THE ENGINES, THE ASTRONAUTS ARE ON THEIR WAY, HOPING FOR A SMOOTH RIDE AND A GENTLE SPLASHDOWN OFF THE COAST OF FLORIDA. THAT WAS REALLY INFORMATIVE, BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS WE HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT. LIKE, PHYSIOLOGICALLY. I WONDER IF THEY WERE IN CONTINUAL STRESS MODE BECAUSE DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY WERE GOING HOME. I WONDER HOW WELL THEY GET ON. I WONDER IF WHEN THEY LAND, ONE OF THEM WANT TO OUT FOR COFFEE AND THE OTHER ONE IS LIKE, NO. IMAGINE BEING STUCK WITH THAT PERSON. FOR THREE HOURS? ALL RIGHT, THEN. ME U TONU MAI ` WE MEET A RECORD BREAKING SAILOR MAKING WAVES. YOU WANT TO CATCH UP COPY AFTER THE SHOW? NOT ANY MORE. VOICEOVER: What a time to be into period drama with Spark Mobile. VOICEOVER: What a time to be into dragons with Spark Mobile. (POP MUSIC) HERE'S WHAT'S MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING ` THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS U.S. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP AND RUSSIAN COUNTERPART VLADIMIR PUTIN HAVE AGREED TO A LIMITED CEASEFIRE ON INFRASTRUCTURE TARGETS IN UKRAINE. A MAN HAS DIED FOLLOWING A SERIOUS CRASH IN AUCKLAND'S BROWNS BAY LAST NIGHT, THE THIRD ROAD FATALITY IN ONE DAY. AUCKLAND COUNCIL PLANS TO TAKE OVER 170ha OF LAND UNDER THE PUBLIC WORKS ACT FOR A NEW CEMETERY IN WEST AUCKLAND. THE LANDOWNER HAS TAKEN THE CASE TO THE ENVIRONMENT COURT. IF YOU SPENT ANY TIME LOOKING OUT FROM NORTHLAND'S BEACHES THE PAST FEW WEEKS, YOU MIGHT SPOTTED A WOMAN IN A DINGHY IN THE DISTANCE AND WONDERED WHAT ON EARTH SHE WAS DOING. WELL, FIONA HEENAN WAS TRYING TO BREAK A WORLD RECORD FOR THE LONGEST DISTANCE SAILED BY A WOMAN IN A DINGHY AND SHE DID IT. JENNY SUO IS WITH HER AND HER BOAT NOW IN AUCKLAND'S WESTHAVEN MARINA. MORENA, JENNY. MORENA, TEAM. YES, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, CALM DAY IN WESTHAVEN, PROBABLY NOT BEST FOR SAILING BUT FIONA, YOU DESERVE A BIT OF A REST BECAUSE 600KM, ACTUALLY, LITTLE BIT MORE YOU WENT FROM AUCKLAND TO KAITAIA. IT SOUNDS CRAZY, WHY DID YOU DO THIS? I WANTED A BIT OF AN ADVENTURE, REALLY. I LOOKED IN THE GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS. THERE WAS A MALE RECORD BUT HE HADN'T EVER BEEN A FEMALE ONE SET, AND I THOUGHT, I COULD HAVE A GO AT THAT. AND THIS IS YOUR BELOVED DINGHY. THIS IS THE DINGHY. AND THIS IS EVERYTHING YOU BOUGHT WITH YOU FOR THREE WEEKS? IT IS A LITTLE FOLD UP KAYAK TROLLEY IN THE BACK SO I COULD GET UP AND DOWN THE BEACH, BUT GENERALLY, I RECRUITED TOURISTS TO CARRY THE BOAT. TOTALLY SUFFICIENT. I HAD 18 DAYS ON THE WATER. I WAS AWAY FOR 19 DAYS AND I HAD SET WITH OTHER THREE-WEEK WINDOW TO DO THIS. UNFORTUNATELY, IN THE LAST HALF, I WAS HAMPERED BY WINDS, BUT WHAT I WAS HAPPY THAT I HAD ACTUALLY SURPASSED WHAT WAS THE PREVIOUS RECORD AND SET THE 600, I WAS HAPPY WITH THAT. CYOHAD TO DO THIS QUITE OFFICIALLY TO THE GUINNESS WORLD BOOK OF RECORDS? YES, I STARTED THE PROCESS ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I HAD TO CARRY A TRACKER, WITNESS STATEMENTS OR UP THE COAST, I HAVE 35 WITNESS STATEMENTS. YOU HAVE TO HAVE VIDEO, PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE SHOWING WHAT HAPPENED ON THE WATER EVERY DAY AND A LOT OF OTHER STUFF AS WELL. SO NOT YET OFFICIALLY RATIFIED. I AM WAITING, THEY CAN TAKE UP TO 12 WEEKS TO COME BACK TO SAY IF OUR SATISFIED. BUT WHEN YOU APPLY AND YOUR CHALLENGE IS ACCEPTED, YOU MUST DETECT MANY BOXES FOR THIS PARTICULAR ATTEMPT AND IF YOU DO THAT, YOU ARE PRETTY WELL SURE YOU WOULD GET IT. WE WORK QUITE HARD ON THE EVIDENCE, SO I THINK I AM FAIRLY CONFIDENT, YES. GOOD ON YOU, JUST AN AMAZING ADVENTURE. DID YOU HAVE FUN? YES, I DOWNLOAD ALL THESE AUDIOBOOKS, THEY USED WATERPROOF HEADPHONES, BUT I ONLY USE THEM ONCE BECAUSE THE COAST LINE WAS AMAZING. AND INCREDIBLE PART OF THE STORY IS YOU HADN'T SAILED A DINGY QUITE A WHILE. WHEN I DECIDED I WAS GOING TO USE A LASER, I WENT BACK TO MY SELLING CLUB THAT I LAST SAILED AT WHEN I WAS 17 57 NOW, AND I'M GETTING BACK INTO LASER SAILING, SO THAT WAS A BIT DIFFERENT. DID THEY SAY, ARE YOU JOKING? NO, EVERYONE WAS REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF GETTING ADULTS BACK INTO SAILING. THAT IS AWESOME, FIONA. YOU DID IT NOT ONLY TO GET INTO THE RECORD BOOKS, BUT WHAT ELSE DID YOU DO IT? OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT IS VERY PERSONAL BUT YOU ALSO WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, SO I WAS REALLY KEEN TO FUND RAISE FOR SAILABILITY, GETTING DISABLED PEOPLE ON THE WATER. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF WHAT FIONA HAS DONE? I THINK IT'S COMPLETELY CRAZY. BUT SOUNDS THAT SHE HAD AN AWESOME TIME AS WELL. AND I THINK IT WAS $1800 SHE RAISED OVER. WHAT WILL GO TOWARDS? RUNNING A DAY TO DAY PROGRAMS. AS A CHARITY, CASH IS HARD TO COME BY. SO WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL. YOU ARE NOT DONE SAILING, ARE YOU? I REALLY WANT TO MAKE A REALLY GOOD GO OF THE RECORD, NEXT YEAR I'M GOING TO GIVE IT ANOTHER GO INTO QUITE A BIT LONGER. SO THAT IT DIDN'T WARD YOU OFF? I'VE LEARNED A LOT, AND I'VE LEARNED THERE IS A WAY TO GO ABOUT IT. WELL, GOOD LUCK, THIS IS FIONA AND FINN. JENNY, HOW CAN PEOPLE DONATE? IF YOU GO ONTO OUR WEBSITE, SALABILITY AUCKLAND, YOU CAN DONATE THERE. GET ON THERE, JENNY-MAY. CLOTHING BRAND SAYS IT'S GETTING MORE THAN 100 COMPLAINTS WITH FEEDBACK THAT ITS ADVERT MODELS ARE 'TOO FAT'. THE 'SNAG' BRAND BEGAN IN SCOTLAND WHEN ITS FOUNDER COULDN'T FIND TIGHTS THAT FIT HER PROPERLY, SO SHE DECIDED TO CREATE HER OWN, BUT HER PLUS-SIZED MODELS HAVE PROMPTED A WAVE OF CRITICISM. WE SPOKE TO SNAG FOUNDER BRIGITTE EARLIER IN THE SHOW ABOUT THE KIND OF COMMENTS THEY'VE RECEIVED. I MEAN, SOME OF THEM ARE VERY SINISTER. WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, 'AT LEAST THIS PERSON WILL DIE YOUNG,' AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I MEAN, REALLY QUITE HORRIFIC THINGS TO SAY. AND THE MODELS THEMSELVES, HAVE THEY BEEN PRIVY TO THESE COMMENTS, AND HOW HAVE THEY REACTED? WELL, THAT'S WHY WE INVEST SO MUCH IN DELETING THEM, BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW` PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE A SAFE SPACE, AND NO MODEL WHO'S TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, DO REPRESENTATION AND HELP PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY'RE VALID AND THEY'RE WORTHWHILE, SHOULD EVER HAVE TO READ SOMETHING LIKE THAT ABOUT THEM. SO WE VERY MUCH INVEST IN MAKING SURE ALL OF OUR SPACES ARE AS SAFE AS WE CAN POSSIBLY MAKE THEM, SO WE DELETE THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS AND WE JUST MAKE THEM A KIND OF HAPPY, POSITIVE SPACE. IS THAT ALL YOU CAN DO ` JUST DELETE BAD COMMENTS? THAT IS PRETTY MUCH` TWICE I'VE HAD TO BAN PEOPLE FROM THE ENTIRE WEBSITE AND THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SHOP WITH US ANY MORE COMPLETELY FOR THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE SAID, BUT THAT'S ONLY HAPPENED TWICE IN ALMOST SEVEN YEARS. SO REALLY ALL WE CAN DO IS BAN THEM FROM OUR SOCIAL MEDIA. YEAH. I SAW THERE WAS AN ADVERT IN THE UK BY NEXT ` IT WAS PREVIOUSLY BANNED BY THE ADVERTISING STANDARDS AUTHORITY FOR BEING TOO UNHEALTHILY THIN. DO YOU THINK THERE'S SUCH THING AS BEING 'UNHEALTHILY LARGE' ON THE OTHER WAY? SO I THINK IT'S... IT'S ABOUT REPRESENTATION. THE PROBLEM WITH BEING THAT ADVERT WAS IT REALLY GLORIFIED BEING INCREDIBLY SKINNY, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY SHOT AND ALTERED IN A WAY THAT MADE THE MODEL LOOK EVEN SMALLER THAN SHE WAS, AND I THINK THE INTENTION OF DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT BY THE CREATIVE DIRECTOR IS REALLY TO PUSH BEING SUPER, SUPER SKINNY. WE KNOW THAT THAT'S A MASSIVE TRIGGER FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALL SORTS OF EATING DISORDERS, INCLUDING ANOREXIA, WHERE THE REALITY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, NOBODY SEES SOMEBODY THAT'S MY SIZE OR BIGGER AND GOES, 'I REALLY WANT TO BE YOUR SIZE. 'I'M GOING TO START EATING MORE TO BE THAT WAY.' BUT IF YOU ARE THAT SIZE AND YOU SEE SOMEONE IN THE MEDIA THAT REPRESENTS YOU, IT MEANS A LOT FOR YOUR MENTAL HEALTH. SO IT'S A VERY KIND OF DIFFERENT SITUATION. WE WOULD NEVER WANT SOMEONE TO APPEAR BIGGER OR DIFFERENT FROM HOW THEY ARE. IT'S ABOUT GENUINE REPRESENTATION, WHERE THAT ADVERT WAS ABOUT NOT JUST USING A SUPER-SKINNY MODEL, BUT MAKING HER LOOK EVEN SKINNIER TO KIND OF FUEL THAT THINSPIRATION. FOR ALL OF THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED, HAVE YOU HAD SOME ENCOURAGING, SOME POSITIVE FEEDBACK? WE HAVE LOTS OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK, WHICH, I GUESS, IS THE REALLY NICE PART OF IT, AND PEOPLE ARE REALLY INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL TO SEE PEOPLE LIKE THEM, JUST REGULAR-LOOKING PEOPLE IN ADVERTS, AND IT MEANS THE WORLD TO THEM. AND WE'VE SEEN THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE HELPED THEIR KIND OF JOURNEY TOWARDS SELF-ACCEPTANCE THROUGH THAT, WHICH IS, LIKE, AN AMAZING THING TO SEE AS A BRAND. BRIGITTE REID 'SNAG' CHIEF EXECUTIVE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US ALL THE WAY FROM OXFORD THIS MORNING. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. VERY GRATEFUL TO HAVE HER ON THE SHOW THIS MORNING AND ONE THING I PICKED UP ON IS THAT THEY ACTUALLY DO GO THROUGH THE COMMENTS AND TAKE OUT A LOT OF THE NEGATIVE ONE, WHICH, YOU AND I BOTH KNOW, THAT ACTUALLY TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND A LOT OF RESOURCING, BUT ULTIMATELY, IT MEANS A LOT TO HER ABOUT HOW HER MODELS FEEL, IF THEY WERE TO SEE THOSE COMMENTS. NOT ONLY MODELS BUT PEOPLE WHO GO ON AND SEE THOSE KINDS OF COMMENTS AND THE DAMAGE THAT THEY CAN DO, SO BACKUPS TO HER FOR INVESTING IN THAT PART OF HER BUSINESS, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T. I SUSPECT A LOT OF PEOPLE COMMENTING WANT TO BE CUSTOMERS, IT WILL JUST BE PICTURES ON THE ALGORITHM. I JUST HATE THAT. E WHAI AKE NEI ` SOME BIG NEWS FOR THE CITY OF SAILS THIS MORNING. LUCY BENDELL'S OUT ON THE WATER TO TELL US MORE. TAMAKI MAKAURAU IS KNOWN INTERNATIONALLY AS A CITY OF SAILS. WE WILL SEE AFTER THE BREAK WHAT RACE IS RETURNING TO OUR SHORES IN 2027 ('COLD AS ICE' BY FOREIGNER) (READS) "Additional tax refunds. Click the link to..." # You're as cold as ice... # Not clicking the link. (CLEARS THROAT) VOICEOVER: If something seems suss, we're here to help 24/7 on 0800 ASB FRAUD. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. A MAJOR SPORTING EVENT IS RETURNING TO TAMAKI MAKAURAU AUCKLAND. BREAKFAST REPORTER LUCY BENDELL JOINS US LIVE FROM OUT ON THE WATER IN THE WAITEMATA HARBOUR WITH THE EXCLUSIVE ANNOUNCEMENT. LUCY, GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING, TEAM. OUR CAMERA REVEAL THAT THE OCEAN RACE IS RETURNING TO NEW ZEALAND FOR 2027. IT IS A ROUND THE WORLD RACING EVENT. IT WAS ORIGINALLY KNOWN AS THE WHITBREAD ROUND THE WORLD RACE, IN AUCKLAND WAS ADDED AS A STOPOVER IN THE 1977 TO 1978. IT HASN'T RAISED HERE SINCE 2018, BUT TODAY, 50 YEARS ON, IN 2027, IT IS SAID TO COMEBACK TO OUR SHORES. I'M JOINED BY SIMEON BROWN AND THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OF AUCKLAND LIMITED. TELLS HOW SIGNIFICANT THIS EVENT IS. REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE THIS EVENT TO RETURNING TO AUCKLAND. IT IS GOING TO BRING THOUSANDS OF VISITORS INTO NEW ZEALAND AND TENS OF THOUSANDS. IT IS PART OF OUR PLAN TO GROW THE ECONOMY. WE WANT TO BRING MORE VIBRANCY AND MORE EVENTS BACK TO OUR CITY. THAT IS GOING TO COST THE RATEPAYERS AND TAXPAYERS $6.3 MILLION. WHAT REASSURANCE CAN YOU GIVE US IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD SPEND OF OUR MONEY. IS GOING TO BE MORE TOURIST VISITING AUCKLAND, SHOWCASING AUCKLAND TO THE WELL, SO A LOT OF PEOPLE WATCH THIS EVENT A MODEL, AND THAT IS ALL PART OF HOW WE CAN PROMOTE NEW ZEALAND AS A ATTRACTIVE DESTINATION AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN PROMOTE NEW ZEALAND AS A PLACE TO COME AND VISIT. WERE EXCITED ABOUT HOW WE CAN SUPPORT EVENTS LIKE THIS. DO YOU HAVE EXACT DATA ON THE ECONOMIC RETURN FOR AUCKLAND? THE DATA THAT IS BEING PRESENTED SAYS IT IS GOING TO PROVIDE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO COME TO OPEN, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF BED NIGHTS IN AUCKLAND, ALL THAT GENERATES RETURN, THAT GROWS JOBS AND OPPORTUNITIES IN OUR CITY, AND SO IT IS GOT TO GET FUNDING THROUGH MAJOR EVENTS, SO IT HAS GOT TO HAVE A POSITIVE NET BENEFIT, WHICH THIS DOES, AND IT WILL SUPPORT JOB OPPORTUNITIES IN AUCKLAND AND PROMOTE NEW ZEALAND TO THE WORLD. WHAT SETS THE OCEAN RACE APART? WE HAVE BEEN PART OF THIS FOR A WHILE. THIS IS THE 11TH TIME AT A STOPOVER IN NEW ZEALAND. WE ARE SAILING NATION. NICK WE ARE GOING TO BE JOINED BY A 20 YEAR OLD SAILOR THIS MORNING. TELLS ABOUT WHERE YOUR PASSION FOR SAILING CAME FROM. IVAN SAILING FOR 10 YEARS NOW, AND I MOVED TO AUCKLAND IN 2022 TO PURSUE SAILING FURTHER AS WELL AS STUDY, SO I THINK HAVING THIS RACE COME TO AUCKLAND IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING AMAZING FOR SOMEONE WHO WAS BEEN SAILING SO LONG AND FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC. TELLS ABOUT WHAT SORT OF EXCITEMENT THIS WILL BRING TO PERHAPS YOUNGER SAILORS WANTING TO GET IN? I WASN'T HERE IN 2018, BUT I READ BOOKS, PETER BLAKE, THEY ARE ALL INSPIRING, THAT IS GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THE NEXT GENERATION. YOU DO A LOT OF COACHING FOR SAILING HERE, AND YOU ALSO JUST WON A COMPETITION WITH YOUR PARTNER NOT LONG AGO. TELLS ABOUT WHAT THE SAILING COMMUNITY HERE IS LIKE AND HOW EXCITED ARE GOING TO BE ABOUT THIS? IT IS TRULY SUCH A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR AUCKLAND, AND I THINK BEING ABLE TO SEE THE BOATS IN PERSON NOT JUST ON SCREEN GOING EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD IS TRULY AMAZING FOR THE NEXT GENERATION, ESPECIALLY THE KIDS THAT I COACH, MYSELF INCLUDED, IT IS GOING TO BE ALSO TO COME DOWN AND HOPEFULLY TALK TO THE SAILORS AND GET ON THE BOATS. THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO EXPERIENCE BEFORE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. VERY EXCITING NEWS FOR SAILORS ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY. SAILORS AND SPECTATORS. SUCH A FANTASTIC EVENT. YOU HAVE BEEN ON ONE OF THE BOATS BEFORE. I HAVE FORGOTTEN UNTIL THIS PHOTO EMERGED. BACK IN 2016. I THINK I MIGHT HAVE BEEN A BREAKFAST REPORT AT THE TIME AND THEY HOISTED ME UP THE MAST. GREAT EXPERIENCE. STILL TO COME ON THE SHOW THIS MORNING ` VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE BACKING A PETITION SEEKING FAIR COVERAGE FROM ACC. ALSO AHEAD ` DOCUMENTARY MAKERS ARE BLURRING THE LINE BETWEEN WHAT'S REAL AND WHAT'S FAKE WITH THE USE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. WE'LL WADE INTO THE ETHICAL DEBATE. PLUS ` SHE'S UP FOR THE TAITE MUSIC PRIZE PLUS ` SHE'S UP FOR THE TAITE MUSIC PRIZE AND ABOUT TO PLAY THE POWERSTATION WE GET A SPECIAL PERFORMANCE FROM FAZERDAZE. IT'S 8 O'CLOCK. HERE'S THE NEWS. TO DEVELOPING NEWS, RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN HAS AGREED TO A TEMPORARY PAUSE ON STRIKING UKRAINIAN ENERGY TARGETS FOLLOWING A PHONE CALL WITH HIS U.S. COUNTERPART DONALD TRUMP. WE'RE RETURNING TO OUR U.S. CORRESPONDENT LOGAN CHURCH FOR THE LATEST. HE'S IN WASHINGTON DC WHERE HE'S COVERING OUR FOREIGN MINISTER'S MEETING AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT. LOGAN, TELL US ABOUT THESE DEVELOPMENTS. THAT MEETING BETWEEN MARCO RUBIO, THE SECRETARY OF STATE, AND WINSTON PETERS IS HAPPENING AS AS I SPEAK. THE BIG NEWS OUT OF WASHINGTON DC TODAY IS THE DEVELOPMENT REGARDING SOME POTENTIAL ASPECTS THAT MIGHT LEAD TO A LONGER CEASEFIRE IN UKRAINE, JUST TO TICK OFF A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN ANNOUNCED FOLLOWING A 90 MINUTE PHONE CALL BETWEEN PUTIN AND TRUMP THIS MORNING ` IT SEEMS THAT RUSSIA HAS AGREED TO A 30 DAY CEASEFIRE WHEN IT COMES TO STRIKES ON ENERGY AND INFRASTRUCTURE TARGETS AND ALSO SEEMS THAT RUSSIA HAS AGREED TO A PRISONER SWAP OF 175 PRISONERS EACH. ALSO TALKS ABOUT INCREASING COOPERATION BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND RUSSIA OVER THE COMING YEARS, ALSO TALKS ABOUT A POTENTIAL HOCKEY GAME BETWEEN THE NATIONS. ONE THING THAT WAS NOT REVEALED IN THE READOUT FROM THE KREMLIN OR THE WHITE HOUSE IS UKRAINE'S POSITION ON THIS. LATELY THEY SAID THEY BACKED THE USA'S PLANS FOR A CEASEFIRE. WHAT WE HAD TODAY WAS STEPHANIE PROGRESS, BUT IT CERTAINLY NOT A FAST ROADMAP OR A FAST-TRACK TO A CEASEFIRE. JUST AHEAD OF THAT MEETING BETWEEN WINSTON PETERS ON MARCO RUBIO, HE WAS ASKED ABOUT THAT MEETING, HE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING AS WINSTON PETERS AND HIM EXCHANGE HAND SHAKES AND WENT OFF BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. ISRAEL'S PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU HAS PROMISED ISRAEL'S PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU HAS PROMISED TO RESUME COMBAT IN GAZA WITH FULL FORCE ... AFTER MORE THAN FOUR ISRAEL'S PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU HAS PROMISED TO RESUME COMBAT IN GAZA WITH FULL FORCE AFTER MORE THAN 400 PALESTINIANS WERE KILLED IN ISRAELI AIRSTRIKES YESTERDAY. THE ISRAELI DEFENCE FORCE CLAIMS IT WAS HITTING 'TERROR TARGETS' THROUGHOUT THE STRIP. THE U.S. SAYS HAMAS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RESUMPTION IN HOSTILITIES, BLAMING THE GROUP'S FAILURE TO RELEASE MORE HOSTAGES AND NEGOTIATE THE TERMS OF A MORE PERMANENT CEASEFIRE. SOPHIE DEVINE IS SET TO MAKE HER RETURN TO CRICKET AND HIDE AMONGST THE PEOPLE OF GAZA, USING THEM AS HUMAN SHIELDS. SOPHIE DEVINE IS SET TO MAKE HER RETURN TO CRICKET AFTER BEING NAMED IN THE WHITE FERNS T20 SQUAD TO TAKE ON AUSTRALIA. THE 35-YEAR-OLD TOOK A WELLBEING BREAK IN JANUARY THAT SAW HER MISS THE SUPER SMASH WOMEN'S PREMIER LEAGUE AND THE RECENT HOME SERIES AGAINST SRI LANKA. DEVINE SAYS SHE'S EXCITED TO BE BACK WITH THE TEAM AFTER TAKING TIME TO RESET AND REFOCUS. SUZIE BATES WILL CONTINUE AS INTERIM CAPTAIN FOR THE SERIES THAT GETS UNDERWAY ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON IN AUCKLAND. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. IT'S LOOKING LIKE ANOTHER GREY DAY. PARTLY CLOUDY WITH PERIODS OF RAIN FOR MOST. HOWEVER, IT WILL BE A FINE START IN GISBORNE AND HAWKE'S BAY BEFORE TAKING A TURN IN THE EVENING WITH ISOLATED SHOWERS. 22 THE HIGH FOR WHANGAREI. 19 FOR PALMERSTON NORTH. A BIT OF A MIXED BAG HERE. A CLOUDY START FOR NELSON BEFORE CLEARING IN THE AFTERNOON. WIDESPREAD RAIN FOR THE MARLBOROUGH AND CANTERBURY REGIONS. HOWEVER, RAIN WILL EASE TO SHOWERS IN THE LATE MORNING. FOR THOSE ALONG THE WEST COAST, A MAINLY FINE DAY APART FROM A FEW LIGHT SHOWERS. 21 THE HIGH FOR QUEENSTOWN. 15 IN KAIKOURA. THANKS, JENNY-MAY. VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE JUST LIKE THEIR PAID COLLEAGUES, BUT WHEN THEY GET INJURED, THEY DON'T RECEIVE THE SAME ACC SUPPORT. NOW A NATIONWIDE PETITION IS CALLING FOR CHANGE, BACKED BY THOUSANDS OF VOLUNTEERS WHO SAY IT'S TIME FOR FAIR TREATMENT. BILL BUTZBACH IS THE CEO OF THE UNITED FIRE BRIGADES' ASSOCIATION. HE JOINS ME NOW. MORENA. FIRST OF ALL, WHAT DOES THE ROLE OF A VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER AND TAIL? FIRST OF ALL, WHAT DOES THE ROLE OF A VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER ENTAIL? THE ROLE OF THE VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS THE PAID FIREFIGHTERS, IN THAT THEY RESPOND TO PRETTY MUCH EVERY EMERGENCY THAT HAPPENS IN THE COMMUNITIES, RIGHT ACROSS THE FULL RANGE OF EMERGENCIES. WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH DIFFERENT TERRITORIES, DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, IN AREAS WHERE THE ANSWER MANY PEOPLE, YOU'RE PROPERLY DOING A BIT MORE, IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? I THINK THAT IS FAIR TO SAY IN DIFFERENT WAYS, PROBABLY THE MORE REMOTE YOU ARE FROM THE LARGER CITIES, YOU ARE MORE LIKELY DEALING WITH FIRES AND THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND FLOODS AND ALL OF THE NATURAL DISASTERS. WHY DO VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS CURRENTLY MISS OUT ON THE SAME A CC COVERAGE THAN THEIR PAID COUNTERPARTS? I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY THAT THEY MISS OUT ON TWO SPECIFIC AREAS OF ACC COVERAGE ` THE FIRST IS THERE IS NO COVER FOR WORK-RELATED MENTAL INJURY THAT THEY MAY SUFFER, AND SECONDLY, ANY PERSONAL INJURY IS CAUSED BY WORK SUCH AS CERTAIN FIREFIGHTING CANCERS AND THE LIKE, OR MUSCULOSKELETAL INJURIES, NOT WITHOUT ITS HAZARDS. ARE REAL ARE THOSE HAZARDS FOR FIREFIGHTERS, PARTICULARLY THE MENTAL SIDE OF THINGS? FOR ALL FIREFIGHTERS,. CHRIS, I CAN FIREFIGHTER FOURTH 44 YEARS, AND I CAN TELL YOU THERE IS PLENTY OF EXPOSURE TO TRAUMA. THESE DAYS, GIVEN THE SIGNIFICANT INVOLVEMENT FIREFIGHTERS HAVE IN EMERGENCY MEDICAL RESPONSE, WHERE THEY ARE WORKING IN EXTREMELY STRESSFUL ENVIRONMENTS, PARTICULAR WITHIN PEOPLE'S HOLMES IN THE MOST TRAUMATIC SITUATIONS WHEN THEY ARE TRYING TO SAVE PEOPLE'S LIVES. CARRY ON. THE HAZARDS PRESENTED BY FIVE-YEAR DAYS ARE SIGNIFICANT AS WELL, EXTREMELY TOXIC SITUATIONS WHEN YOU ARE INVOLVED IN FIREFIGHTING. ALL OF THE VERY WORST THINGS YOU CAN THINK OF, THE CONTAMINANTS THEY ARE EXPOSED TO ONE AN ALMOST DAILY BASIS, WHICH RESEARCH SHOWS THERE IS A DIRECT LINKAGE TO CERTAIN CANCERS FOR ALL FIREFIGHTERS, PAID OR VOLUNTEER. UNDER ACC, FIRE FIGHTERS WHO ARE VOLUNTEERS ARE EXCLUDED BECAUSE THEY DON'T RECEIVE TAXABLE WAGES. CLEARLY, YOU THINK THIS IS MORE THAN UNFAIR. WE THINK IT IS UNFAIR FOR A PARTICULAR REASON. YOUR FULL-TIME ROLE WITHOUT PAY, AND THEREFORE WE BELIEVE THERE IS A SPECIAL CASE TO LOOK AT HOW THAT GENEROUS CONTRIBUTION REALLY BY THE COMMUNITY CAN BE PROTECTED, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN CONTINUE TO VOLUNTEER, BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T, WE HAVE GOT A MAJOR PROBLEM IN THE LONG OR MEDIUM-TERM. ARE CONFIDENT ARE YOU THAT THIS PETITION WILL BE RECEIVED WELL? I CAN'T SPIKE YOU, BUT I KNOW THE POLITICIANS ARE VERY MUCH AWARE OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS AN ALL FIREFIGHTERS MAKE TO NEW ZEALAND'S SAFETY. I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHER PRIORITIES ON THE RADAR, BUT I AM CONFIDENT THAT WITH THIS PETITION, THAT IS MEMORY DRIVEN, I THINK THEY HAVE GOT NO CHOICE BUT TO SET UP AND LISTEN AND LOOK AT THE OPTIONS. HOW CAN THE PUBLIC SUPPORT WE PETITION? THEY CAN SIGN THE PETITION, WHICH IS AVAILABLE ON THE PARLIAMENTARY WEBSITE, WHICH IS WHERE THE PETITIONS ARE, AND WE WOULD BE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE SUPPORT. THANK YOU, BILL. CATHERINE LAMONT IS A MEMBER OF THE QUEENSTOWN VOLUNTEER FIRE BRIGADE. SHE WAS THE ONE THAT INITIATED THE PARLIAMENTARY PETITION. I FIND THIS MIND BLOWING. BILL AS PART OF THE UNITED FIRE BRIGADES ASSOCIATION, WHICH REPRESENTS OVER 12,005 FIGHTERS. ANYONE WHO LIVES RURALLY WILL KNOW ANYONE INVOLVED AS FIREFIGHTERS AND WILL UNDERSTAND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THESE MEN AND WOMEN DO TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE TO RESPOND TO ANY INCIDENTS THAT GO ON. WHERE I LIVE, IT GOES OFF EVERY DAY, THE OLD SCHOOL SIREN, WEEKENDS, TWO OR THREE TIMES. WE KNOW THESE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HOW MUCH TIME, EFFORT THAT THEY PUT INTO THIS, BECAUSE THEY LOVE THEIR COMMUNITY AND THEY LOVE BEING ABLE TO SERVE OTHERS, PARTICULARLY DURING THESE TIMES WHEN IT IS AN ACCIDENT, SOMETHING ON THE WATER, THESE MEN AND WOMEN, THEY ARE THERE IN A HEARTBEAT. THIS IS ON TOP OF THEIR OWN RESPONSIBLE IT IS TO JOB, TO THEIR OWN COMMITMENTS TO THEY HAVE TO THEIR FAMILIES. THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT IS BECAUSE THEY AND CLASSIFIED AS EMPLOYED, AND THEREFORE THEY DON'T HAVE A TAXABLE WAGE, THEREFORE THEY DON'T QUALIFY UNDER ACC. I FIGURED LUDICROUS. SURELY, WE NEED TO GET BEHIND THIS PETITION, BECAUSE THESE ARE MEN AND WOMEN IN OUR COMMUNITIES WHO ARE DOING THIS ALL FOR THE LOVE OF THEIR COMMUNITIES. I MEAN, COME ON, THIS IS RIDICULOUS. ME U TONU MAI ` ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE CAN BRING THE DEAD TO LIFE, BUT SHOULD IT? ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE CAN BRING THE DEAD TO LIFE, BUT SHOULD IT? NEXT ` THE ETHICAL DEBATE FOR DOCUMENTARIES OVER WHAT IS REAL AND WHAT'S FAKE. # WHATEVER IS, WHATEVER IS, WHATEVER YOU LIKE. HERE'S WHAT'S MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING ` BENJAMIN NETANYAHU SAYS THE ISRAELI AIRSTRIKES THAT KILLED MORE THAN 400 PEOPLE IN GAZA YESTERDAY WERE, QUOTE, 'JUST THE BEGINNING' AS THE CEASEFIRE COLLAPSES. THE NASA ASTRONAUTS THAT HAVE BEEN STRANDED IN SPACE FOR NINE MONTHS ARE NOW ON THEIR JOURNEY BACK TO EARTH. THEY ARE EXPECTED TO LAND OFF THE COAST OF FLORIDA LATE THIS MORNING. AND AN OVERSEAS CLOTHING BRAND HAS BEEN FLOODED WITH COMPLAINTS THAT ITS MODELS ARE 'TOO FAT.' THE OWNER SAYS THIS BEHAVIOUR IS DETRIMENTAL TO INDIVIDUALS' MENTAL HEALTH AND NEGATIVELY IMPACTS THEIR PHYSICAL HEALTH. THERE'S RISING CONCERN AROUND AI AND THE ROLE IT PLAYS IN OUR LIVES, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER BIG QUESTION AROUND HOW REAL IT'S GETTING AND WHETHER WE CAN TELL IT APART FROM REALITY. HE LOVES ME SO MUCH. I DON'T DESERVE IT. BUT I'M LUCKY HE STICKS WITH ME. THIS CLIP IS FROM THE NETFLIX DOCUSERIES 'AMERICAN MURDER GABBY PATITO'. THE VOICE YOU HEARD ISN'T REAL. THE FILMMAKERS REPLICATED IT USING AI AND USED IT TO RECREATE DIARY ENTRIES, BUT IS THAT ETHICAL? IS IT OK TO RECREATE SOMEONE'S VOICE, PARTICULARLY IF THEY'RE DEAD? TO HELP EXPLORE THAT QUESTION, WE'RE DELIGHTED TO WELCOME IN TECH EXPERT DANU ABEYSURIYA. MORENA. YOU WATCHED THAT DOCUMENTARY. LET'S MAKE IT CLEAR, THAT VOICE WE HEARD IS THE WOMAN WHO HAS PASSED AWAY, , BUT AI HAS GENERATED THAT VOICE. THEY HAVE USED AI TECHNOLOGY TO RECREATE THAT FROM HER DIARY ENTRIES. WHEN YOU WATCHING IT, HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT WATCHING IT, KNOWING THAT THAT SOUNDALIKE, BUT IT WASN'T HER? IT WAS EERIE. SOMETHING WAS SLIGHTLY OFF ABOUT THE BOYS AS WELL, SO THE TECHNOLOGY STILL HAS SOME WAY TO GO, BUT I THINK A BIG PART OF THAT` IT WAS GOOD THEY DISCLOSED IT WAS USING VOICE REGRESSION TECHNOLOGY, BUT I THINK YOU'RE PLAYING WITH FIRE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE PLAYING WITH A TRUE CRIME DOCUMENTARY. IN THIS CASE, IF THE TRIAL WAS ACTIVE, WE HAVE ALL HEARD THE PHRASE TRIAL BY MEDIA, TRIAL BY PRICE, YOU COULD USE EMOTIVE STORYTELLING INSTRUMENT LIKE THAT TO REALLY AFFECT REAL-WORLD OUTCOMES IF IT'S NOT USED PROPERLY. EMOTIVE IS THE WORD. YOU ARE DRAWN MORE TO IT. THOSE DIARY ENTRIES ARE ACTUALLY LEADING UP TO HER DEATH, SO THEY ARE QUITE PERTINENT TO THE STORYTELLING. YOU SAID THEY DISCLOSED FROM THE BEGINNING THAT THEY WERE USING VOICE TECHNOLOGY. DO YOU HAVE TO DO THAT? NO, AND I THINK THAT IS THE REAL DEBATE. THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT TO DISCLOSE THAT, AND ACTUALLY THERE WAS A LOT OF DEBATE ABOUT ADRIAN BRODY'S OSCAR FOR THE BRUTALIST. THEY ACTUALLY USED AI THERE TO CHANGE THE ACCENTS TO IMPROVE THE PRONUNCIATION, THE HUNGARIAN PRONUNCIATION. HAVE YOU SEEN THE MOVIE? NO, I HAVE SEEN THE TRAILER. YOU THINK IT'S AMAZING HOW THEY CAN BE THE ACCENTS. THEY USED AI FOR VOICE DOUBLING AND IMPROVING THE ACCENTS OF THE ACTS ACCENTS OF THE ACT ALSO. ACCENTS OF THE ACTORS. IT IS ONLY BEING USED FOR AUDIO AND VIDEO EFFECTS. HOW FAR DO WE GO? I WONDER ABOUT THE AUDIENCE, AND HOW MUCH WE HAVE TO PLAY IN SAYING, THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO THE SITUATION KNOWING IT IS A FILM MADE BY ACTORS WHO ARE AMERICAN BUT ARE SPEAKING IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE, BUT THAT IS PART OF IT, SEEING HOW GOOD THEY ARE IN THEIR CRAFT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. I THINK FICTION AND STORYTELLING AND ENTERTAINMENT MOVIES ARE CLEARLY FOR ENTERTAINMENT. THERE IS PROBABLY LIMITED RISK THERE. THE DOCUMENTARY IS A BIT DIFFERENT. THE GUILD OF DOCUMENTARY MAKERS MAY BE NEED TO MAKE A PACT THAT THEY WON'T USE IT IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS, OR MAYBE THERE IS FINDING SOME REGULATION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. THE PERMISSION SIDE OF THINGS, ONE IS DISCLOSING TO THE AUDIENCE. I KNOW THAT JAMES L JONES SAID IT WAS OK TO USE HIS VOICE WITH AI OR WHATEVER, BUT IS THERE A CONSENT PROCESS AS WELL? DEALING WITH NATURAL DEATH THE INDIVIDUAL IS AVAILABLE TO GIVE CONSENT, THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN SOMEONE WHO HAS PASSED AWAY. I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THEY EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THEIR VOICE BEING USED TO VOICE OVER THE MURDER DOCUMENTARY. YOU ARE ALSO GETTING INTO TERRITORY WHERE YOU ARE FINANCIALLY GAINING FROM SOMEONE. I IMAGINE IT WOULD OPEN YOU WANT TO A WORLD WHERE FAMILIES WOULD BRING A LAWSUIT, PARTICULARLY IN AMERICA, TO GET A SHARE OF ROYALTIES, SAVE FOR THE LION KING. THE FAMILY SIZE THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE ESTATE. , YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT JAMES EARL JONES. AI REALLY HAS SOME BIG QUESTION MARX ABOUT COPYRIGHT. BECAUSE A HUMAN IS NOT INVOLVED IN THE AI GENERATED OUTPUT, U.S. COURTS HAVE ESTABLISHED A LINE OF THINKING THAT AI GENERATED CONTENT HAS NO CORPORATE. SO ALL OF THE REVENUE AND IP SETS IN THE GENERATION OF YOUR VOICE, RATHER THAN THE SOUND OF YOUR VOICE. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IN A DOCUMENTARY, YOU CAN STILL KIND OF TITLES AI. THERE WERE STILL DIFFERENT THINGS A GENERATED VOICE. HOW FAR AWAY FROM YOU NOT BEING ABLE TO DISTINGUISH IT? NOT FAR. YOU CAN GO ON THINGS LIKE ELEMENT LABS DOWNLOAD TWO CLIPS OF SOMEBODY'S VOICE AND YOU CAN GENERATE ANY PHRASING THAT YOU WANT FOR THE LOW PRICE OF $1.95. AT THE PACE IT IS MOVING, WE HAVE GONE FROM VERY ROBOTIC MOVIES FROM 80S AND 90S SCI-FI FILMS TO COMPLETELY NATURAL SPEECH THAT CAN'T BE DISTINGUISHED IN LESS THAN 10 YEARS. THAT RATE OF CHANGE` ALSO, ONCE IT IS THERE, THE JOB IS DONE. ONCE THERE IS A PIECE OF TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN RECREATE A VOICE 100% CONVINCINGLY, THERE IS NO MORE TO DO. I THINK WE ARE APPROACHING THAT QUITE QUICKLY, MAYBE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. ALWAYS ENLIGHTENING, BUT WITH A TINGE OF... ANXIETY INDUCING. THANK YOU, WE THINK? GOOD TO SEE YOU. A MURI I NGA WHAKATAIRANGA ` YOUR 8.30 NEWS, SPORT AND WEATHER. PLUS, WELLINGTON'S MOST POPULOUS SUBURB HAS GAINED A NEW ATTRACTION. JAMES FLEURY IS IN KARORI TO FIND OUT MORE. MORENA, JAMES. MORNING CARNITINE, YOU PROBABLY THINK WITH THIS BEAUTIFUL BACKDROP BEHIND ME THAT I AM AT SEA AND LAND BEHIND ME THAT I AM AT ZEALANDIA, BUT ACTUALLY, THIS IS A RAJ MURAL THAT HAS BEEN TRANSFORMING THE STREETS HERE, WHEN WE MEET THE TALENTED ARTISTS WHO MADE THIS ALL HAPPEN. IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO ADOPT A FURRY FRIEND, THE SPCA IN KIRIKIRIROA HAMILTON IS A GREAT PLACE TO START. DASH THE DOG, HAROLD THE CAT, AND SHAYNA THE KITTEN ARE WAITING TO FIND THEIR FOREVER HOME. I SPOKE WITH KYLA ROBB FROM THE SPCA HAMILTON TO LEARN MORE. SO DASH CAME TO US THROUGH THE INSPECTOR, AND HE'S JUST` JUST A LOVABLE, EASY-GOING SORT OF DOG. UM, HE HAS BEEN WITH US FOR A LITTLE WHILE, BUT HE'S JUST SUPER HAPPY, EASY-GOING, JUST LOVES ATTENTION. YEAH. DASH IS AN OLD` AN ADULT DOG, RIGHT? DO YOU THINK THAT THAT'S POTENTIALLY THE REASON WHY HE KEEPS GETTING OVERLOOKED? YEAH. MOST LIKELY. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN THAT WANT PUPPIES, UM, SO UNFORTUNATELY, OUR OLDER DOGS DO` NOT THAT HE'S OLDER, BUT OUR ADULT DOGS DO SORT OF WAIT A LITTLE BIT LONGER. UM, AND THEN BECAUSE HE IS WHITE, WE DO FIND OUR WHITE AND BLACK DOGS TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO GET ADOPTED, UNFORTUNATELY. YEAH, YEAH. SO IN TERMS OF AN ADULT DOG, THEN WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS, THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT ADOPTING AN ADULT DOG? WELL, THEY'RE SORT OF THROUGH THAT PUPPY PHASE, YOU KNOW. SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT ALL THAT CHEWING AND TOILET TRAINING AND STUFF ISN'T STILL GOING TO BE THERE, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE A BIT MORE MATURE AND, UM, GOT SOME SORT OF LIFE SKILLS UNDER THEIR BELT ALREADY. YEAH. TELL ME ABOUT HAROLD. HAROLD'S, UH, LIKE A TEENAGER, RIGHT? TALKING ABOUT A CAT HERE. TELL ME ABOUT HAROLD'S PERSONALITY. SO HERE'S WHAT WE CALL A KITTEN. SO HE'S A LITTLE BIT SHYER, WHO'S PERFECTLY HAPPY TO HAVE PATS AND THAT SORT OF THING. UM, BUT HE'S UNFORTUNATELY GROWN UP IN THE SHELTER. UM, SO HE'S JUST HAD SORT OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT ATTENTION FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE AND HASN'T HAD THAT SORT OF ONE HUMAN TO CALL HIS OWN. SO HE'S DEFINITELY LOOKING FOR THAT, BUT OF BIT OF UNDERSTANDING. AND HE WOULDN'T MIND GOING HOME WITH HIS MATE. YEAH. SO TELL ME ABOUT` IS THERE ANY EXTRA KIND OF CARE THAT'S REQUIRED? JUST A BIT OF TIME AND UNDERSTANDING FOR HIM. AND WE DO ENCOURAGE OUR FELINES TO GO INTO SORT OF THEIR OWN ROOM FIRST, JUST BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE SHELTER SITTING THEY'RE USED TO BEING IN A SMALLER SORT OF SPACE. UM, AND THAT CAN JUST GIVE THEM THAT CONFIDENCE THAT THEY'VE GOT THEIR OWN SORT OF AREA TO FALL BACK ON. UM, AND THEN INTRODUCING THEM TO SORT OF THE REST OF HOUSE ONCE THEY'VE GOT THAT SORT OF, UM, COMFORT IN THEIR OWN SPACE. YEAH. GOOD ADVICE. CAN WE TALK ABOUT SHAYNA NOW? SHAYNA THE KITTEN? YES, YES. SO SHE IS JUST ONE OF THE MANY KITTENS THAT WE HAVE. SHE IS SUPER PLAYFUL, FULL OF ENERGY. SHE LOVES TO CHASE A BALL AND GRAB IT AND KICK AWAY AT IT AND ALL THOSE FUN SORT OF THINGS, SO SHE'S JUST FULL OF THAT KITTEN ENERGY. UM, SO SHE WOULD LOVE A REALLY ACTIVE HOUSEHOLD THAT'S GOING TO PLAY WITH HER AND LOTS TO DO. YEAH. UM, IN TERMS OF THE ANIMALS THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE AT THE SPCA IN HAMILTON, IS` HAVE YOU GOT THE NORMAL AMOUNT OR IS IT A BIT HIGHER AT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR? SO IT'S DEFINITELY HIGHER AT THIS TIME OF YEAR. SO ABOUT A THIRD OF OUR ANIMALS ARE ADOPTION-READY AT THE MOMENT. UM, SADLY THAT DOES TEND TO GO UPWARDS, ESPECIALLY AROUND APRIL. UM, SO ABOUT 50% OF OUR ANIMALS WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ADOPTION AT THAT TIME BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T GET THEM GOING OUT THE DOOR FAST ENOUGH, UNFORTUNATELY. YEAH. SO NO DOUBT THAT THAT MEANS, YOU KNOW, A BIT MORE PRESSURE ON THOSE OF YOU WORKING AT THE SPCA, TO, YOU KNOW, HOUSE THESE ANIMALS. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THIS TIME OF YEAR, WE STILL GET WHAT WE CALL, LIKE, THE SECOND WAVE. UM, SO IT MEANS A LOT MORE KITTENS COMING IN. SO IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE CAT IN A CAGE HERE. IT'S YOUR MAMA WITH YOUR SIX BABIES. SO THAT'S SORT OF SEVEN LIVES THAT WE HAVE TO SORT OF CARE FOR AND DESEX, VACCINATE, ADOPT OUT OR THAT SORT OF THING. SO IT GETS QUITE, QUITE FULL. UM, WE'VE GOT PLENTY AVAILABLE FOR ADOPTION AND MANY MORE WAITING SORT OF BEHIND THE SCENE. YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK HOW PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY HELP OUT. I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT ADOPTION SERVICES. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT PEOPLE CAN DO? YEAH. SO WE'RE ALWAYS CALLING OUT FOR VOLUNTEERS. UM, SO WE ARE BRINGING BACK OUR STREET APPEAL. UM, SO THE 30th AND 31st OF MAY, OUR STREET APPEAL IS FINALLY GOING TO BE BACK. UM, SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR AREA COORDINATORS AND STREET COLLECTORS FOR THAT, UM, INITIATIVE AS WELL. THERE YOU GO. 30th AND THE 31st OF MARCH, DID YOU SAY? YEAH` MAY. OF MAY, OK. SO YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE` PEOPLE HAVE GOT A COUPLE OF MONTHS WHERE THEY CAN CONTACT THE SPCA, UH, TO SEE IN WHAT WAYS THEY CAN HELP OUT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, KYLA. KYLA ROBB FROM THE SPCA IN HAMILTON. THANK YOU. ISRAEL'S PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU HAS PROMISED RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN HAS AGREED TO A TEMPORARY PAUSE ON STRIKING UKRAINIAN ENERGY TARGETS FOLLOWING A PHONE CALL WITH HIS U.S. COUNTERPART. THE PAUSE WILL LAST FOR 30 DAYS, AND THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS TALKS TOWARDS A MORE PERMANENT CEASEFIRE WILL BEGIN IMMEDIATELY. UKRAINE ACCEPTED THE U.S. CEASEFIRE PROPOSAL LAST WEEK, WITH PRIME MINISTER VOLODMYR ZELENSKY IN FINLAND TODAY TO DISCUSS DEFENCE SUPPORT. ISRAEL'S PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU HAS PROMISED TO RESUME COMBAT IN GAZA WITH FULL FORCE, SAYING YESTERDAY'S AIRSTRIKES THAT KILLED HUNDREDS OF PALESTINIANS WERE JUST THE BEGINNING. THE U.S. SAYS HAMAS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RESUMPTION IN HOSTILITIES, BLAMING THE GROUP'S FAILURE TO RELEASE MORE HOSTAGES AND NEGOTIATE THE TERMS OF A MORE PERMANENT CEASEFIRE. HAMAS HAS CALLED ON MEDIATORS TO INTERVENE, AND HOLD ISRAEL RESPONSIBLE FOR VIOLATING THE CEASEFIRE DEAL. POLICE HAVE CONFIRMED A MAN HAS DIED AFTER A SERIOUS CRASH IN AUCKLAND'S BROWNS BAY LAST NIGHT. A SINGLE VEHICLE HIT A TREE JUST BEFORE 8pm, KILLING THE SOLE OCCUPANT. IT WAS THE THIRD ROAD FATALITY IN ONE DAY, FOLLOWING AN EARLIER SERIOUS CRASH IN TARANAKI THAT KILLED TWO PEOPLE. LABOUR LEADER CHRIS HIPKINS SAYS FORCING PEOPLE INTO WORK WILL NOT HELP NEW ZEALAND'S UNEMPLOYMENT SITUATION. IT COMES AS THE LATEST FIGURES SHOW NEARLY 22,000 MORE PEOPLE RECEIVED THE JOBSEEKER BENEFIT THAN A YEAR AGO ` AN INCREASE OF NEARLY 12%. HIPKINS SAYS THE GOVERNMENT CREATED THE PROBLEM FOR THEMSELVES. THEY'VE DIALLED BACK STATE HOUSE BUILDS, THEY'VE STOPPED SCHOOL UPGRADES, THEY STOPPED HOSPITAL PROJECTS, THEY EVEN STOPPED ROADING PROJECTS, AND, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY THE PEOPLE WHO WERE DOING THAT WORK HAVE NOW LOST THEIR JOBS. SO I THINK THE GOVERNMENT REALLY NEEDS TO TAKE ITS FOOT OFF THE THROAT OF THE NEW ZEALAND JOB ECONOMY AND GET KIWIS BACK TO WORK. HE SAYS THERE ARE SOLUTIONS TO THE UNEMPLOYMENT PROBLEM; THE GOVERNMENT JUST NEEDS TO BEGIN EXPLORING OPTIONS. THE PROFESSIONAL TENNIS PLAYERS' ASSOCIATION HAS BEGUN LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THE SPORT'S TWO MAJOR TOURS, ACCUSING THEM OF ANTI-COMPETITIVE PRACTICES AND DISREGARDING PLAYER WELFARE. THE UNION, WHICH WAS CO-FOUNDED BY NOVAK DJOKOVIC, FILED A LAWSUIT IN NEW YORK AGAINST THE MEN'S ATP AND THE WOMEN'S WTA. THE LAWSUIT CLAIMS THE TOURS HAVE TOO MUCH POWER OVER THE SPORT, PLAYERS ARE BEING EXPLOITED AND THE SCHEDULE IS UNSUSTAINABLE. THE UNION'S SEEKING A JURY TRIAL AND WILL ALSO BEGIN LEGAL PROCEEDINGS IN THE UK AND EU. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. IT'S LOOKING LIKE ANOTHER GREY DAY. PARTLY CLOUDY WITH PERIODS OF RAIN FOR MOST. HOWEVER, IT WILL BE A FINE START IN GISBORNE AND HAWKE'S BAY BEFORE TAKING A TURN IN THE EVENING WITH ISOLATED SHOWERS. 22 THE HIGH FOR WHANGAREI. 19 FOR PALMERSTON NORTH. A BIT OF A MIXED BAG HERE. A CLOUDY START FOR NELSON BEFORE CLEARING IN THE AFTERNOON. WIDESPREAD RAIN FOR THE MARLBOROUGH AND CANTERBURY REGIONS. HOWEVER, RAIN WILL EASE TO SHOWERS IN THE LATE MORNING. FOR THOSE ALONG THE WEST COAST, A MAINLY FINE DAY APART FROM A FEW LIGHT SHOWERS. 21 THE HIGH FOR QUEENSTOWN. 15 IN KAIKOURA. HOME TO WELLINGTON'S ZEALANDIA WILDLIFE SANCTUARY, THE SUBURB OF KARORI IS KNOWN FOR ITS LUSH FORESTS AND DIVERSE BIRD LIFE. NOW THE CENTRAL WELLINGTON SUBURB HAS VISITORS FLOCKING TO ONE RESIDENTIAL STREET FOR A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT REASON. JAMES FLEURY IS AT FIRTH TERRACE TO FIND OUT MORE. MORENA, JAMES. MORENA, TEAM. DESPITE THE RAINY FORECAST YOU JUST READ, THE WONDERFUL MARTHA AND I AND THE CAMERA OPERATORS HAVE BRAVED THE WEATHER BECAUSE IT IS WORTH IT, THE STARTING MURAL HAS CHANGED STREETS OF KARORI. FOR LACK OF A MORE EXPRESSIVE TERM, GROWING UP IN WELLINGTON, A CITY FILLED WITH BOOTABLE NATURE AND STREET ART, I ALWAYS FELT THE NEED TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE CREDIT ENERGY THAT FLOWS THROUGH THE VEINS OF THE CITY. YOU TALK ABOUT THAT CREATIVE ENERGY, WE GOT A WONDERFUL TUI THERE. THE COUPLE HIRED ME TO PAINT ZEALANDIA, AND THEY WERE REALLY INTERESTED IN HAVING KERERU, PIWAKAWAKA, TUI. I'M HAPPY WITH HOW THE TUI CAME OUT, THEY ARE VERY VIBRANT. YOU ARE JUST 19 YOU DECIDED THAT HE MISSED PAINTING ` WAS THAT THE REASON YOU GOT BACK INTO MURAL GARAGED AT? *GARAGE ART EIGHT DID A SWITCH ON MY DEGREE WHICH MEANT I WOULDN'T BE PAINTING AS OFTEN, WHICH I FOUND QUITE SAD BECAUSE PAINTING IS MY PASSION, IF YOU WILL, BUT I'M GLAD I CAN GET BACK INTO IT WITH THIS KIND OF WORK. THIS ISN'T YOUR FIRST MURAL IN THIS AREA? MY LAST ONE WAS A HIRE FOR A GRAFFITI COVER-UP ` ACTUALLY, SO WITH THIS ONE. IS ACTUALLY A PROBLEM IN THIS COMMUNITY, THEY WAKE UP AND FIND THEIR GARAGE IS SPRAY-PAINTED. IT REALLY LIVENED IT UP, THE LAST ONE WAS FLOWERS. IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT THE WATER HERE, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE IT IS SORT OF GLISTENING ON THAT SUNNY DAY WHICH WE ARE NOT EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW, BUT IF PEOPLE WANT TO GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU AND POTENTIALLY HAVE THEIR GARAGE TRANSFORMED, HOW CAN THEY DO SO? JAMES, I AM CURRENTLY SETTING UP A WEBSITE. IT'S NOT DONE YET BUT ONE THAT WILL BE, IT WILL BE SET UP MORE PROVISIONAL FACEBOOK PAGE AT MATA'S MURALS. I'M ON FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM SOON AS WELL. HOW LONG DID IT TAKE THIS MASTERPIECE TO BE CREATED? ABOUT 10 DAYS, I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE IT UNFINISHED. TEAM, IF YOU ARE ON FIRTH TERRACE, MITCHELL TO HAVE A DRIVE BY AND GET IN TOUCH WITH MATA IF YOU WANT TO TRANSFORM YOUR GARAGE AS WELL. ONE OF MY OLD STREETS! YES, NICE. THANK YOU SO MUCH OF THE BOTH OF YOU, BEAUTIFUL GARAGED. CAN YOU ASK MATA TO COME TO AUCKLAND? E WHAI AKE NEI ` NEW ZEALAND'S PROWESS IN THE TURF SCENE IS BEING SHOWCASED IN CHRISTCHURCH TODAY. OH, I AM ALL ABOUT THIS. ALI PUGH'S CHECKING IT OUT. MORENA, ALI. MORENA, CHRIS, I THOUGHT YOU WOULD LIKE THIS. WE ARE TALKING ALL THINGS GRASS AND SEWING, GROWING AND MOWING. (CROWD CHEERS) (PLAYERS GRUNT) VOICEOVER: Your game face. A growl? (ROARING) A scowl? But you know what? The real game-changer isn't a scowl. It's a smile. SONG: # One, two, three, four! # (DRIVING HIP-HOP MUSIC) Yeah. There's nothing fiercer than a smile. (STARTER BUZZES) So next time you put on your game face, remember, smiling can boost your performance. HERE'S WHAT'S MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING ` RUSSIAN PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN HAS AGREED TO A TEMPORARY PAUSE ON STRIKING UKRAINIAN ENERGY TARGETS. FOLLOWING A PHONE CALL WITH HIS U.S. COUNTERPART, DONALD TRUMP. BENJAMIN NETANYAHU SAYS THE ISRAELI AIRSTRIKES THAT KILLED MORE THAN 400 PALESTINIANS IN GAZA YESTERDAY WERE, QUOTE, 'JUST THE BEGINNING' AS THE CEASEFIRE COLLAPSES. AND CRITICS ARE DEBATING THE ETHICAL USE OF AI IN DOCUMENTARIES. THIS FOLLOWS NETFLIX'S NEW DOCUSERIES WHICH SAW MURDER VICTIM GABBY PETITO'S VOICE RECREATED THROUGH AI. LINCOLN, ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF CHRISTCHURCH, IS HOSTING THE SECOND EVER 'TURF DAYS'. THE EVENT'S A SHOWCASE OF THE COUNTRY'S TURF INDUSTRY. ALI PUGH IS THERE FOR US THIS MORNING. GOOD MORNING, ALI. GOOD MORNING. I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE JEALOUS OF THIS ONE, THIS IS TURF DAYS. THIS IS THE SECOND EVER. IT IS A SHOWCASE AT THE CELEBRATION OF THE PROFESSIONAL TURF INDUSTRY HERE IN NEW ZEALAND FOR ANYONE WHO MIGHT WORK ON A GOLF COURSE, STADIUM, COUNCIL ENVIRONMENT, HIGH SCHOOLS ` ANY SPORTS TURF ENVIRONMENT, IS THAT IT IS A VERY SPECIAL EVENT. I'M JOINED NOW BY AN ORGANISER OF THE EVENT, WHAT WAS THE IDEA BUT HAVING THIS? THE INDUSTRY IS GOING THRU SO MUCH INNOVATION. JUST INNOVATION, WHAT GOES ON BEHIND-THE-SCENES, IS A LOT OF DISEASE IDENTIFICATION, WORKSHOPS, MICROSCOPES ` YOU'RE SEEING WHAT GOES INTO WHAT YOU SEE OUT OF THE SERVICES. HOW MUCH MORE CAN YOU DO WITH ONE FIELD OF TURF AT THE MOMENT, HOW MUCH SUPPORT CAN YOU PLAY OUT OF IT? I SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT UTILISING RESEARCH FACILITIES HERE WHO HAVE DONATED THE LAND TO BE ABLE TO HOLD THIS ON. WE ARE THINKING 10 YEARS IN ADVANCE, LET'S SEE HOW MUCH RECOVERY THEY CAN HAVE IN THAT SPACE, SO, YES. AMAZING, COME WITH ME, I HAVE AMAZING TECHNOLOGY TO SHOW YOU, BECAUSE THE EQUIPMENT IS BEING DISPLAYED HERE. THIS IS HOLLY. HOLY IS A MASTER STUDENTS. TELLS IT WE ARE LOOKING AT HERE. THIS IS OUR TURF TANK. GIVE US A WEE DEMO. THIS IS MARKING LINES AROUND YOUR SPORTS FIELD. YET, SO IT IS, DASH LINES, WE HAVE DONE IT AROUND THE DEMO AREAS TODAY. WE USED TO HAVE TO STRING-LINE IT. SO THIS IS A HUGE TIME SAVER. IT IS INCREDIBLE, YES. SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS INDUSTRY HAVE BEEN IN IT FOR 30 TO 40 YEARS... CHRIS: WATCH OUT, ALI! YOU'RE GOING TO BE CUT TO BITS, CAREFUL! LUCKILY, I AM TOLD IT HAS SENSORS THOUGH IT STOPPED BEFORE IT HIT ME. YOU JUST ABOUT PROGRAMMED ME TO GET RUN OVER! THIS IS THE BIGGEST COMMERCIAL ABOUT IT LAWN ON THE MARKET, ISN'T IT? YES, IT IS A ROBOTIC LAWNMOWER, PITCHED INTO THE COMMERCIAL SPACE TO THIS IS CAPABLE OF LOOKING AFTER 65,000 M , JUST SHORT OF 12 ACRES OF LAWN OR TURF. IT IS FULLY GPS, RUNS OF SATELLITE AND DOES STRAIGHT LINES, AS YOU CAN SEE. THAT IS ALREADY BEING USED ON GOLF COURSES AROUND NEW ZEALAND? YES, A COUPLE, A COUPLE OF AIRFIELDS AND EQUESTRIAN CENTRES AS WELL. THEY ARE HUGELY POPULAR. IT IS GOING TO PUT A FEW HUSBAND OUT OF BUSINESS. (CHRIS LAUGHS) WE ARE TIME POOR NATION, AND THIS IS FILLING THAT GAP. TURF DAYS IS HERE TODAY, TOMORROW AND THERE ARE STILL TICKETS AVAILABLE. IT IS A TRADE SHOW BUT IF GRASS FLOATS YOUR BOAT, THIS IS THE PLACE TO BE. ABSOLUTELY. NICE, ALI. AL STANDING IN A FIELD TODAY, AS ALWAYS. COULDN'T HELP HIMSELF. E HAERE AKE NEI ` WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK AFTER THE BREAK WITH A SPECIAL PERFORMANCE FROM FAZERDAZE. A TREAT TO END THE SHOW WITH THIS MORNING. AFTER THE CRITICAL SUCCESS OF HER DEBUT RECORD, 'MORNINGSIDE', NEW ZEALAND SHOEGAZE MUSICIAN AMELIA MURRAY, KNOWN AS FAZERDAZE, TOOK A LENGTHY BREAK FROM CREATING MUSIC AND TOURING. NOW SHE'S RETURNED TO AOTEAROA'S MUSIC SCENE NOW SHE'S RETURNED TO AOTEAROA'S MUSIC SCENE WITH HER SOPHOMORE RECORD 'SOFT POWER', WHICH HAS BEEN NOMINATED FOR THE PRESTIGIOUS 2025 TAITE PRIZE. SHE JOINED ME EARLIER TO TALK ABOUT THE ALBUM AND HER UPCOMING SHOW AT AUCKLAND'S POWERSTATION. UH, IT'S PRETTY FRANTIC, NOT GONNA LIE, BUT I'M FEELING GOOD. THIS IS MY BIGGEST HEADLINE SHOW YET, SO, UM, IT MEANS A LOT. I MEAN, JUST TO PLAY IN AUCKLAND, WHERE SO MANY OF MY PEERS ARE HERE, IN INDUSTRY. UH, YEAH, IT'S EXCITING, AND ALSO, POWER STATION IS ONE OF MY FAVOURITE VENUES, SO, YEAH. DOES IT FEEL LIKE YOU'RE ON A BIT OF A HIGH AT THE MOMENT? UH, I KNOW YOU'RE A FINALIST FOR THE TAITE MUSIC PRIZE AS WELL. THAT'S HUGE, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH, UM, IT'S BEEN A LONG JOURNEY, SO, UM, IT FEELS... IT FEELS EXCITING, BUT ALSO, UM... MEASURED AND SLOW AS WELL. HOW DO YOU FEEL AFTER SORT OF HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK? AFTER MORNINGSIDE, YOU HAD SOME TIME OUT BEFORE YOU CAME BACK TO MUSIC AND THAT SORT OF THING. UM, HOW HAS THAT BEEN FOR YOU? UH, WELL, THAT WAS ACTUALLY A REALLY TRICKY TIME IN MY LIFE, AND I, I HAD A LOT OF CREATIVE BLOCKS, AND IT WASN'T REALLY, UM, AND I HAD A LOT OF CREATIVE BLOCKS, AND IT WASN'T REALLY, UM, AN INTENTIONAL BREAK. I REALLY WANTED TO KIND OF CAPITALISE ON THE SUCCESS I'D UM, GARNERED THROUGH MORNINGSIDE, ON THE SUCCESS I'D, UM, GARNERED THROUGH MORNINGSIDE, BUT I KIND OF GOT REALLY STUCK, UM, AND, UH, I THINK MAYBE THE PRESSURE OF THE SECOND RECORD REALLY, REALLY GOT TO ME. YEAH. UM, SO I THINK THE BREAK... I HAD TO GO THROUGH A BUNCH OF LIFE LESSONS IN THAT PERIOD. HOW DOES IT FEEL WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MOMENT? BECAUSE I IMAGINE WHEN YOU START OUT ON THIS JOURNEY, YOU SORT OF THINK, 'RIGHT, I'LL DO THE FIRST ONE, I'LL DO THE SECOND ONE, 'SUCCESS WILL COME,' AND YOU SORT OF JUST KEEP GOING, BUT IT'S JUST NOT LIKE THAT, IS IT? YEAH. IT CAN BE MUCH BUMPIER THAN THAT, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE IS NO, UH, CLEAR-CUT PATH OF HOW TO BUILD A CAREER IN MUSIC, AND, UM, A LOT OF IT IS TRUSTING YOUR INSTINCTS AND TRUSTING YOURSELF. AND IT CAN SOMETIMES BE A LITTLE BIT TRICKY IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT VOICES AND OPINIONS AND EGOS. (CHUCKLES) SO, UH, IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO KIND OF COME THROUGH THAT AND BE ABLE TO HEAR MY OWN VOICE. WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE EXPERIENCES, DO YOU FEEL LIKE IT SORT OF INFORMS OR MAKES YOU BETTER AS AN ARTIST OUT THE BACK OF IT? I THINK SO, YEAH. I THINK, UH, THAT WHAT I WENT THROUGH AND THAT KIND OF TRICKY TIME AWAY WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO, YEAH, LEARN HOW TO HEAR MY OWN VOICE AND, AND REALLY TRUST IT, UM, EVEN WHEN IT GOES AGAINST THE GRAIN OR` YEAH, I'VE HAD A REALLY KIND OF DIY CAREER, AND I'M VERY INDEPENDENT AS AN ARTIST. BECAUSE YOU WERE DOING EVERYTHING ON THE ROAD, RIGHT? YOU'RE PRODUCING YOURSELF, DOING ALL THE BITS AND PIECES. YEAH, I MEAN, I RECORD THE MUSIC MYSELF. I PRODUCE IT MYSELF, UM, AND FOR THE MOST PART, I JUST WORK WITH MY FRIENDS, AND WE KIND OF MAKE IT ALL HAPPEN. YOU'VE GOT A BIG YEAR. THIS YEAR AFTER THE POWER STATION, YOU CAN SORT OF TURN YOUR ATTENTION TO AUGUST LATER ON. WHAT'S GOING ON FOR YOU THEN? YEAH, SO, WE HEAD TO NORTH AMERICA AND WE'RE SUPPORTING THE PIXIES ` WHICH IS GREAT. THEY'RE ONE OF MY FAVOURITE BANDS. UM, SO WE ARE PLAYING, I THINK, UH... I'M NOT SURE. I THINK IT'S 15 SHOWS WITH THEM ACROSS NORTH AMERICA, AND THEN, UM, YEAH` BUT UNTIL THEN, I'M GOING TO TAKE A BIT OF A BREAK, I THINK. NICE. TELL US ABOUT THE SONG THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE PLAYING FOR US TODAY. UH, SO DAVE AND I ARE GOING TO PLAY 'BIGGER', WHICH IS OFF THE NEW RECORD, 'SOFT POWER'. IT FEELS JUST REALLY GOOD TO GET THE MUSIC OUT THERE. IT FEELS REALLY LIBERATING. IT FEELS SCARY, I'M NOT GONNA LIE, BUT IT FEELS EXCITING, AND IT FEELS REALLY GOOD TO WORK PAST MY OWN FEARS AND PSYCHOLOGICAL BATTLES OF DOING THIS AS A CAREER AND KIND OF JUST FEELING THE FEAR AND DOING IT ANYWAY. WELL, AMELIA MURRAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US THIS MORNING. UH, THIS IS FAZERDAZE WITH 'BIGGER'. # I WAS IN A BRIGHT LIGHT, # STANDING THERE ALONE. # I COULD FEEL IT # PULL ME AWAY # FROM YOU. # IT'S STRANGE AND NEW, # AND I'M SWEPT UP IN A CROWDED ROOM # WHERE NO ONE GETS ME LIKE YOU DO. # WE'RE CAUGHT BETWEEN # THIS LIFE AND DREAM, # BUT YOU AND ME, # WE'RE BIGGER. # LET'S TRY TO FIGURE THIS OUT. (DRIVING GUITAR CHORDS, DRONING SYNTH CHORDS) (DRIVING GUITAR CHORDS, DRONING SYNTH CHORDS) # HALF WAY OUT THE DOORWAY, # I KNOW I SHOULDN'T STAY, # AND IN THE MORNING, # I'LL BE # A WORLD AWAY. # I'LL GROW, # I'LL CHANGE, # BUT WHEN I'M GONE IT'S CLEAR TO ME # YOU'RE WHERE I ALWAYS # WANT TO BE. # WE'RE CAUGHT BETWEEN # THIS LIFE AND DREAM, # BUT YOU AND ME, # WE'RE BIGGER. # LET'S TRY TO FIGURE THIS OUT. (DRONING SYNTH CHORDS, LIGHT PIANO MOTIF, DRIVING GUITAR CHORDS) (DRONING SYNTH CHORDS, LIGHT PIANO MOTIF, DRIVING GUITAR CHORDS) # WHEN I'M GONE, IT'S CLEAR TO ME. # YOU'RE WHERE I ALWAYS WANT TO BE. # WHEN I'M GONE, IT'S CLEAR TO ME. # YOU'RE WHERE I ALWAYS WANT TO BE. # WHEN I'M GONE, IT'S CLEAR TO ME. # YOU'RE WHERE I ALWAYS WANT TO BE. # WHEN I'M GONE, IT'S CLEAR TO ME. # YOU'RE WHERE I ALWAYS WANT TO BE. # (MUSIC FADES)