(SPEAKS LATIN) COME INTO BREAKFAST ON THIS TUESDAY THE 22nd OF APRIL. THESE ARE LIVE PICTURES OUT OF ROME WHERE HUNDREDS ARE GATHERING TO MOURN THE DEATH OF POPE FRANCIS WHO DIED AGED 88. A SIGNIFICANT MOMENT FOR THE 1.4 BILLION CATHOLICS AROUND THE WORLD. FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVE FOLLOWED THE LIFE AND MESSAGE OF POPE FRANCIS DURING HIS TIME LEADING THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TRIBUTES FROM WORLD LEADERS THROUGHOUT THE MORNING, AND WE WILL LOOK BACK AT THE LIFE AND LEGACY OF POPE FRANCIS. 12 YEARS PAPALCY. AND A POPE THAT DISTINGUISHED HIMSELF FROM HIS PREDECESSORS. VERY EARLY ON. SPENDING TIME WITH THE POOR, GOING TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD WHERE PREVIOUS POPES HAD NOT TRAVELLED TO. AND I GUESS A MAN OF THE PEOPLE. VERY MUCH SO. GREAT TO BE WITH YOU ON BREAKFAST. CHRIS CHANG IS TAKING A COUPLE OF DAYS ` HE IS DOING THAT THING, CONNECTING EASTER AND ANZAC DAY. IT IS WONDERFUL TO HAVE YOUR COMPANY FOR WHAT IS A SIGNIFICANT OCCASION. JUST A DAY AFTER APPEARING IN ST PETER'S SQUARE TO WISH THOUSANDS OF WORSHIPPERS A HAPPY EASTER, THE VATICAN HAS CONFIRMED THE PASSING OF POPE FRANCIS. WE WILL HAVE THE LATEST FROM EUROPE, LOOK BACK AT HIS LEGACY AND EXPLAIN WHAT COMES NEXT. ALSO AHEAD ` THE PRIME MINISTER'S JUST HAD AN AUDIENCE WITH KING CHARLES. CHRISTOPHER LUXON WILL JOIN US FROM LONDON. WHAT ISSUES WERE DISCUSSED WITH HIS ROYAL HIGHNESS? WE'LL ALSO ASK HIM WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA FOR HIS UPCOMING MEETING WITH THE BRITISH PM. THE REMNANTS OF EX-TROPICAL CYCLONE TAM ARE STILL BEING FELT, WITH SOME HOMES STILL WITHOUT POWER AND MANY MORE CLEANING UP THE MESS. IN AUCKLAND, QUESTIONS ARE BEING ASKED WEATHER WARNINGS FROM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS. WHY WASN'T AN ALERT SENT OUT AS THE STORM ESCALATED? YEAH. RIGHT NOW IT'S 6 O'CLOCK. GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US THIS MORNING. HERE'S YOUR NEWS. THE VATICAN HAS BEGUN OBSERVING THE SEDE VACANTE PERIOD FOLLOWING THE DEATH OF POPE FRANCIS AT THE AGE OF 88. (BELL TOLLS) (BELL TOLLS) MOURNING BELLS WERE RUNG, AND THE BRONZE DOORS TO THE APOSTOLIC WERE HALF CLOSED ` THE PROTOCOL OBSERVED WHEN THE PAPAL THRONE HAS BEEN VACATED. FLAGS WERE LOWERED TO HALF MAST, WITH MOURNERS GATHERING AT A MASS AT SAINT PETERS SQUARE. WE ARE DELIGHTED TO SEE HIM YESTERDAY MORNING, BUT TRUTHFULLY, ALL OF THE PRIESTS THAT WERE PRESENT FOR THE MASS, THERE WAS A SIGH AMONGST US ALL WHEN WE HEARD HIS VOICE. IT WAS SO WEAK, AND OF COURSE WE WERE CONSCIOUS OF HIS AGE, AND WE DID SAY, PERHAPS THIS MIGHT BE HIS LAST TIME TO APPEAR IN PUBLIC. AND WE'LL HAVE MORE COVERAGE FROM HERE AND AROUND THE WORLD THROUGHOUT THE SHOW. BACK HERE, AND... JUST HAVING A FEW TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. THE HOLIDAY ROAD TOLL HAS OFFICIALLY ENDED, WITH THE PRELIMINARY NUMBER OF DEATHS ON OUR ROAD THIS EASTER WEEKEND CURRENTLY FOUR. THE FIRST CRASH HAPPENED ON STATE HIGHWAY 12 IN RUAWAI IN NORTHLAND ON GOOD FRIDAY. THE FOLLOWING DAY, ONE PERSON DIED IN A CRASH INVOLVING A CAR AND CYCLIST IN HAWKE'S BAY. THE TWO OTHER INCIDENTS HAPPENED ON EASTER MONDAY ON STATE HIGHWAY 3 IN TARANAKI AND ANOTHER ONE IN WAIKATO'S MANGAKINO. PROTESTERS ATTEMPTING TO SHUT DOWN A COAL MINE ON THE WEST COAST HAVE NOW BEEN TRESPASSED BY THE MINING COMPANY. AROUND 70 ACTIVISTS HAVE SPENT THE PAST SIX DAYS CAMPING ON DENNISTON PLATEAU IN HOPES OF STOPPING BATHUST RESOURCES FROM EXTENDING ITS STOCKTON MINE. THE COMPANY WANTS TO EXTRACT 20 MILLION TONS OF COAL FROM THE PLATEAU OVER THE NEXT 25 YEARS, BUT CLIMATE ACTIVISTS ARE REFUSING TO LET IT HAPPEN. BATHURST SAID IN A STATEMENT IT WAS CONCERNED FOR THE TRESPASSERS' HEALTH AND SAFETY. A CORONER'S INQUEST INTO THE DEATH OF CYCLIST OLIVIA PODMORE IS SET TO RESUME TODAY IN CHRISTCHURCH. THE OLYMPIAN DIED OF A SUSPECTED SUICIDE IN 2021, WITH THE HEARING ADJOURNED LATE LAST YEAR FOR REASONS THAT CAN'T BE REPORTED. THE PROCEEDINGS HAVE BEEN MOVED TO CHRISTCHURCH FROM HAMILTON TO EASE THE FINANCIAL BURDEN ON PODMORE'S FAMILY. AND ITALY'S TOP FLIGHT FOOTBALL LEAGUE HAS POSTPONED ITS EASTER MONDAY FIXTURES, WITH TOP CLUBS JOINING THE WORLD IN MOURNING THE POPE. THE 88-YEAR-OLD WAS A KNOWN FOOTBALL FAN AND WAS AN HONORARY MEMBER OF ARGENTINIAN CLUB SAN LORENZO, WHICH HE HAD SUPPORTED SINCE HE WAS A CHILD. HE HAD OFTEN HAILED SPORTS AS A WAY TO PROMOTE SOLIDARITY AND INCLUSION. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE MARKETS. (GROOVY MUSIC) I'M STILL HERE. (LAUGHS) SORRY. WE SEEM TO BE HAVING A FEW TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES THIS MORNING. WE DON'T HAVE THOSE? YES, THEY ARE. STANDBY. (CHILL MUSIC) OK, WE ARE HOPING EVERYTHING GOES WELL FROM THIS POINT ONWARDS. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. THERE WE GO. PARTLY CLOUDY DAY FOR MOST OF THE NORTH ISLAND HERE. SOME SCATTERED SHOWERS ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLATEAU AND EAST COAST, CLEARING FROM THE LATE AFTERNOON. A HIGH OF 23 IN TAURANGA. 21 IN TAMAKI MAKAURAU AUCKLAND. TO THE SOUTH ISLAND ` A FINE DAY IN CANTERBURY AND THE WEST COAST. ELSEWHERE, BIT MORE GREY WITH POTENTIAL RAIN IN THE LATE AFTERNOON IN OTAGO AND FIORDLAND. 19 THE HIGH FOR THOSE IN GREYMOUTH. 18 IN QUEENSTOWN. SEE, THE PROBLEM IS THAT OUR COMPUTER ALSO TOOK THOSE THREE DAYS TO GET 10 DAYS. OUR COMPUTER SYSTEM IS ON HOLIDAY OVER THE LONG WEEKEND. IF YOU ARE JUST JOINING US, THE POPE HAS DIED AGED 88. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE COVERAGE THROUGHOUT THE MORNING. SHORTLY WE WILL TAKE YOU TO SONG: # You're as cold as ice... # What's your address? Not telling. What's your bank account number? 123... Nah! Would you be interested in... Nope. How about a deal... Nah! Pay here! (*Pfffft SOUND*) Negative. Not. Telling. (PHONE RINGS) # Cold # As # Ice... # Hello? My card number? It's, um... Ooh, yeah! # You're as cold as ice... # (FUNKY MUSIC) VOICEOVER: Deals so good they're out of this wooooorld. Get stellar savings on any satellite ready phone when you buy interest-free on an eligible Pay Monthly plan. TXT in the middle of nowhere. Only with One New Zealand. # I HOPE YOU KNOW # I WILL CARRY YOU. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. TRIBUTES ARE FLOWING IN FROM AROUND THE WORLD THIS MORNING AS THE VATICAN AND THE GLOBAL CATHOLIC COMMUNITY MOURN THE DEATH OF POPE FRANCIS. HERE'S A LOOK BACK AT HIS LEGACY. (CHEERING) IN MANY WAYS, HE WAS A POPE OF MANY FIRSTS ` NOT JUST THE FIRST FRANCIS, BUT ALSO FROM THE JESUIT ORDER, AND MOST NOTABLY THE FIRST FROM OUTSIDE EUROPE IN MORE THAN A MILLENNIUM, LEAVING A LEGACY OF SOFTENING THE CHURCH'S STANCE ON SOME THORNY SOCIAL ISSUES. POPE FRANCIS WAS BORN JORGE MARIO BERGOGLIO TO ITALIAN IMMIGRANTS IN ARGENTINA IN 1936. AFTER A RELATIVELY SIMPLE UPBRINGING, HE TRAINED TO BE A CHEMICAL TECHNICIAN BEFORE ENTERING THE JESUIT PRIESTHOOD IN HIS EARLY 30s. APPOINTED ARCHBISHOP OF BUENOS AIRES IN 1988, HE WAS ORDAINED AS A CARDINAL JUST THREE YEARS LATER. AFTER THE 2005 DEATH OF JOHN PAUL II, HE WAS REGARDED AS AN OUTSIDE CHANCE FOR THE PAPACY, WHICH EVENTUALLY WENT TO BENEDICT XVI. AFTER THE 85-YEAR-OLD BENEDICT RESIGNED THE PAPACY IN 2013 DUE TO HEALTH COMPLICATIONS, BERGOGLIO WAS ELECTED ON THE FIFTH BALLOT AND CHOSE THE NAME FRANCIS IN HONOUR OF SAINT FRANCIS OF ASSISI AND HIS DEDICATION TO THE POOR. HE FOLLOWED THAT THROUGH BY OPTING NOT TO LIVE IN THE LAVISH PALACE LIKE HIS PREDECESSORS. THE POPE OF THE HOLY SEE. HE WAS THE FIRST POPE TO ADDRESS CONGRESS IN THE U.S., AND THE FIRST TO VISIT THE ARABIAN PENINSULA WHEN TOURING THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES IN 2019. DURING HIS TENURE, HE'S LED THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THROUGH A REFUGEE CRISIS, MULTIPLE WORLD CONFLICTS AND WARS AND THE COVID PANDEMIC. HE WASN'T AFRAID TO WEIGH IN ON CONTROVERSIAL ISSUES, INCLUDING THOSE WHICH DAMAGE THE REPUTATION OF THE CHURCH, LIKE SEXUAL ABUSE. HE'S ALSO CREDITED FOR SOFTENING THE CHURCH'S APPROACH TO HOMOSEXUALITY ` ONE OF HIS MOST RECENT ACTS ALLOWING BISHOPS TO BLESS SAME-SEX COUPLES. HE WAS ALSO MORE OPEN TO WOMEN IN CHURCH POSITIONS AND HAD A SOFTER VIEW ON DIVORCEES. BUT CRITICS SAY MEANINGFUL CHANGE WAS LACKING, AND HE REMAINED A STAUNCH OPPONENT OF ABORTION. IN 2021, POPE FRANCIS HAD BOWEL SURGERY AND HAS BEEN IN A WHEELCHAIR SINCE. HIS HEALTH REMAINED SHAKY OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. HE HAD CONSIDERED FOLLOWING IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF HIS PREDECESSOR AND RESIGNING FROM THE PAPACY BUT SAID HE DIDN'T THINK THAT SHOULD BECOME THE NORM. IN A RECENT INTERVIEW, POPE FRANCIS SAID HE WANTED A SIMPLER, LESS ELABORATE FUNERAL THAN PAST POPES AND TO BE THE FIRST BURIED OUTSIDE THE VATICAN AND MORE THAN A CENTURY, FITTING FOR A POPE WHO HAS SPENT MUCH OF HIS TENURE SHUNNING POMP AND PRIVILEGE AND INSTEAD PUSHING FOR A MORE LOVING AND CARING CATHOLIC CHURCH. 1 NEWS EUROPE CORRESPONDENT MEI HERON IS IN ROME AND JOINS US NOW. MORENA, MEI. GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE THERE THIS MORNING. GOOD MORNING FROM JUST OUTSIDE THE VATICAN CITY ON THE EDGE OF ST PETER'S SQUARE. PRAYER SERVICE HAS JUST WRAPPED UP HERE A FEW MINUTES AGO. DURING THAT SERVICE WAS A VERY SOMBRE MOOD. THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE STANDING AROUND WITH THEIR PRAYER BEADS RECITING PRAYERS. A FEW PEOPLE WIPED AWAY TEARS FROM THEIR EYES. AT THE END OF IT ALL, A GIANT ROUND OF APPLAUSE, A REAL SENSE OF HONOURING A MAN THAT MANY PEOPLE HERE REALLY ADORED. BUT THIS IS NOT JUST A MOMENT FOR CATHOLICS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE MORNING HIM. I JUST SPOKE TO A COUPLE OF KIWIS WHO WERE HERE ON HOLIDAY AND THEY RECOGNISE THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS MOMENT, THAT THIS WAS A MOMENT OF HISTORY, AND THEY WERE HERE TO HONOUR THAT TOO. OBVIOUSLY, THE POPE HAD BEEN UNWELL. THE VATICAN CONFIRMING IN THE LAST FEW MINUTES THAT THE POPE DIED OF A STROKE AND HEART FAILURE. CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT HIS FINAL FEW HOURS? YES, YOU ARE RIGHT. HE HAD BEEN SICK FOR SOME TIME. IN FACT, HE LOST PART OF HIS LUNG DUE TO AN ILLNESS AS A CHILD. SO HE ALWAYS HAD BEEN SUSCEPTIBLE TO REST THE TORY ILLNESS. IN FEBRUARY HE SPENT 36 DAYS IN HOSPITAL WITH PNEUMONIA. HE WAS PRETTY SICK THEN, AND MANY THOUGHT HE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PULL THROUGH, BUT HE DID AND WAS RECENTLY RELEASED AND THEN DELIVERED A SUNDAY MESSAGE HERE JUST YESTERDAY, JUST 24-HOUR IS AGO. AND FOR MANY, PEOPLE SAW THAT AS A SIGN OF HIM RECOVERING. MANY HOPED IT WAS A SIGN OF HIM GETTING BETTER, SO IN MANY WAYS THE NEWS OF HIS DEATH WAS A SHOCK. HE WAS WORKING, MEETING WITH THE USA VP, JD VANCE. HE HAD ALSO COMMUNICATED WITH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IN GAZA, SOMETHING HE DONE THROUGHOUT HIS TIME. THE POPE HAD SPECIFIC REQUESTS FOR WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WHEN HE DIED. TELL US ABOUT THAT. POPE FRANCIS WAS VERY MUCH A POPE OF THE PEOPLE ` THAT IS HOW HE WANTED TO BE SEEN. SO HE REALLY SPENT A LOT OF HIS TIME REJECTING THE LAVISH LIFESTYLE OF THE POPE, AND I THINK THAT IS REFLECTED IN THE WISHES OF HIS FUNERAL. SO HE WANTED A VERY PEELED BACK, SIMPLE PROCEDURE, AND THAT WAS JUST RECENTLY APPROVED. HE ALSO HAS SCRAPPED THE TRADITION OF PLACING THE POPE'S BODY ON AN ALTAR FOR PEOPLE TO SEE. HE WILL INSTEAD BE IN A SIMPLE COUGH AND OPEN FOR PEOPLE TO VIEW. HE WILL ALSO BE THE FIRST POPE IN MORE THAN A CENTURY TO BE BURIED OUTSIDE THE VATICAN. WE SHOULD HAVE THE MORE DETAILS ON THE FUNERAL TOMORROW. IT WILL LIKELY TO BE IN THE NEXT THREETOMORRO IT WILL LIKELY TO BE IN THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR DAYS. THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE PROCESS OF ELECTING A NEW POPE. HOW DOES THAT WORK? BASICALLY THE POPE IS ELECTED BY THE SENIOR OFFICIALS OF THE CHURCH. THERE ARE HUNDRED AND 38 CATHOLIC CARDINALS ELIGIBLE TO VOTE. IN A FEW WEEKS TIME THEY WILL BE SUMMONED HERE TO THE VATICAN FOR THAT VOTING PROCESS KNOWN AS THE CONCLAVE TO BEGIN. IT IS HELD IN STRICT SECRECY INSIDE THE SISTINE CHAPEL. SOON THE CANDIDATES WILL BE WHITTLED DOWN TO JUST ONE PERSON. THE ONLY INDICATION YOU GET ON THE PROCESS IS THAT THERE WILL BE LIKE SMOKE ` TWICE A DAY IT WILL COME OUT OF THE VATICAN. AS IT IS BLACK, IT IS UNDECIDED. IF IT IS WHITE, IMMENSE THEY HAVE ELECTED THEIR NEXT POPE, AND IN THE NEXT HOUR THE POPE WILL COME OUT ON THE BALCONY TO BE RECEIVED. THOSE ARE CONCERNS FOR THE COMING DAYS, AS YOU SAY, AND FOR NOW, MUCH OF THE WORLD'S ATTENTION IS ON HIS LEGACY. WHAT QUALITIES ARE PEOPLE RECALLING ABOUT THIS POPE THAT DISTINGUISHED HIM IN THAT ROLE? I THINK HE WAS A POPE OF FIRSTS. HE WAS THE FIRST LATIN AMERICAN POPE, THE FIRST JESUIT POPE, THE 1ST TO CHOOSE THE NAME FRANCIS AND THE 1ST TO TAKE OF A LIVING POPE. HE WAS ALSO KNOWN FOR HIS SENSE OF HUMOUR AND HUMILITY. HE WANTED TO BE SEEN AS A POPE OF THE PEOPLE, AND HE REALLY CARED FOR THE POOR. IT IS LIKE HE CHOSE THE NAME POPE FRANCIS. HE IS SUCH A SPIRITUAL LEADER TO 1.4 MILLION CATHOLICS ACROSS THE WORLD. AND IN FACT, UNDER HIS TENURE, THE NUMBER OF CATHOLICS ROSE. ALSO HIS ACCEPTANCE OF THINGS THAT, I GUESS, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS HISTORICALLY SHUNNED. HE WAS REALLY WELCOMING TO HOMOSEXUALITY FOR INSTANCE, AND WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP ROLES. IT HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN SMOOTH SAILING FOR THE POPE. HE CAME UNDER QUITE A BIT OF CRITICISM FOR MAYBE NOT DELIVERING SOME OF THE PROMISES OR HOPE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE FRINGES THOUGHT HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DELIVER WHEN HE FIRST ENTERED. BUT I THINK MANY PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER JUST A KIND MAN WITH A KIND HEART, AND THAT IS WHY SO MANY PEOPLE ARE OUT HERE TONIGHT AND CONTINUE TO BE OUT EVEN THOUGH IT IS WELL DARK. GREY TO HAVE YOU WITH US THIS MORNING, MEI. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. LIFE FROM ST PETER'S SQUARE OUTSIDE THE VATICAN CITY IN ROME THIS MORNING. WILL BE GOING BACK TO HER LATER ON AS THOSE CHATS CONTINUE. WE WILL BE TALKING TO A POPE HISTORIAN AS WELL. ACCORDING TO THE 2023 CENSUS, 32% OF KIWIS ARE CATHOLIC. IT IS THE LARGEST CHRISTIAN DENOMINATION, ISN'T IT? THE LIGHTEST OF PEOPLE'S RELIGION, PEOPLE LOOK TO THE POPE FOR A SENSE OF LEADERSHIP. ME U TONU MAI ` WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK AFTER THE BREAK WITH YOUR 6.30 NEWS. PLUS, DID EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS GIVE AUCKLAND RESIDENTS ENOUGH OF A HEADS-UP FOR THE WILD WEEKEND WEATHER? # SHE CAME RIGHT UP TO ME. # SHE SAID, OH, HI, NICE TO MEET YOU. (SONG): 'COLD AS ICE' BY FOREIGNER BEN: Hello? From the bank? Really? VOICEOVER: Know it's really ASB with Caller Check. (PHONE RINGING) # You're as cold as ice # We can verify it's us through the ASB Mobile Banking app. BEN: Oh, it is you ASB! (UPBEAT MUSIC) MORENA. WELCOME TO BREAKFAST THIS TUESDAY MORNING. HERE'S WHAT'S MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING. THE VATICAN HAS BEGUN OBSERVING THE SEDE VACANTE PERIOD FOLLOWING THE DEATH OF POPE FRANCIS AT THE AGE OF 88. THE HOLIDAY ROAD TOLL HAS OFFICIALLY ENDED, WITH THE PRELIMINARY NUMBER OF DEATHS ON OUR ROAD THIS EASTER WEEKEND CURRENTLY FOUR. A CORONER'S INQUEST INTO THE DEATH OF CYCLIST OLIVIA PODMORE IS SET TO RESUME TODAY IN CHRISTCHURCH. AUCKLAND EMERGENCY OFFICIALS ARE DEFENDING THE DECISION TO ISSUE THREE MOBILE ALERTS OVER THE WEEKEND BUT NONE ON THE NIGHT A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM LASHED THE CITY. ON FRIDAY NIGHT, THUNDER, LIGHTING AND TORRENTIAL RAIN PROMPTED MORE THAN 200 EMERGENCY CALLS, BUT NO ALERT WAS SENT, THEN TWICE ON SATURDAY AND AGAIN ON SUNDAY. PHONES WERE PINGED WITH A WARNING OF A SEVERE IMMINENT THUNDERSTORM WHICH NEVER REALLY EVENTUATED. HERE TO EXPLAIN WHY IS AUCKLAND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GENERAL MANAGER ADAM MAGGS. GOOD MORNING, ADAM. MORENA, JENNY-MAY. CAN WE GO BACK TO FRIDAY NIGHT? WHEN DID IT BECOME CLEAR THAT THE STORM WAS ACTUALLY ESCALATING? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK AUCKLAND. I THINK THEY DID A FANTASTIC JOB LAST WEEK IN X TROPICAL CYCLONE TAM, WHICH WAS MAINLY A WIND RELATED CYCLONE. WE PUT OUT A LOT OF WARNINGS, AND I THINK THEY TOOK NOTE, AND THEY WERE PREPARED. IT WAS FANTASTIC. FRIDAY NIGHT WAS A BIT DIFFERENT. WE HAD THUNDERSTORMS. THEY ARE VERY MUCH RAPID ONSET, AND THAT IS WHAT WE EXPERIENCED, PARTICULARLY LATER IN THE EVENING AS WE GOT TOWARDS MIDNIGHT, WE SAW A RANGE OF THUNDERSTORMS SELLS TRACKING DOWN ACROSS AUCKLAND. THE KEY DIFFERENCE WITH FRIDAY NIGHT WAS THAT THERE WERE KNOWN WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN PLACE FROM METSERVICE. FOR US, THAT GIVES US A LOWER LEVEL OF RISK IN TERMS OF SEVERITY. THERE WAS NO EMERGENCY MOBILE ALERT THAT WAS SENT OUT. SO WAS THAT DECISION DEBATED? OR WHAT WAS THE KIND OF INFORMATION THAT YOU HAD THAT YOU WERE GRAPPLING WITH AT THAT TIME? GOOD QUESTION. FOR US, THE EMERGENCY MOBILE ALERT IS ONE OF THE WAYS WE CAN ALERT THE PUBLIC. THERE ARE OTHER WAYS, SUCH AS USING MEDIA, AS WE ARE NOW, OUR SOCIAL PLATFORMS, WEBSITES, LOCAL CHANNELS, AND WE DO THAT FOR LOWER-LEVEL THINGS. THE PROBLEM WE HAD ON FRIDAY NIGHT WAS THAT VERY QUICKLY THAT THUNDERSTORMS SELL TRACT AND HIT SANDRINGHAM AND MT ROSKILL AND A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. THE WATCHMAN WE CAME OUT AT MIDNIGHT, AND KEEPING IN MIND THAT A WATCH IS MUCH LOWER LEVEL THAN A WARNING. A WARNING IS TO TAKE ACTION NOW. ONE FRIDAY NIGHT, WE ONLY HAD A WATCH IN PLACE. HOWEVER, FIRE AND EMERGENCY STARTED RESPONDING. THE TEAMS AT THE CONTACT CENTRE AND OUR PARTNERS AND CONTRACTORS ALL STARTED TAKING ACTION. WE STARTED MOVING. WE ACTIVATED THE EMERGENCY COORDINATION CENTRE. WE BASICALLY STARTED RESPONDING TO THE EMERGENCY EVENT AS QUICKLY AND EFFECTIVELY AS WE COULD, INCLUDING SETTING UP A COMMITTEE OF THE COMMUNITY EMERGENCY CENTRE. WE QUICKLY STARTED RESPONDING, BUT WE DID NOT HAVE A LEVEL OF THREAT THAT DEEMED AN EMERGENCY MOBILE ALERT NECESSARY. HINDSIGHT CAN BE A BEAUTIFUL THING, BUT IF WE REFLECT ON THAT NIGHT, THAT WERE 223 EMERGENCY CALLOUTS, INCLUDING WATER RESCUES AND FLOOD DAMAGE. IN HINDSIGHT, DO YOU THINK THAT ANNA LEAT SHOULD HAVE GONE OUT? WELL, IT IS A CHALLENGING QUESTION. IT IS A NATIONAL PROTOCOL, AND IT HAS SOME VERY HIGH THRESHOLDS. THREE OF THOSE THRESHOLDS WE THINK ABOUT OUR SEVERITY AN EMERGENCY. WE ALSO OVERLAY A LOCAL CONTEXT. FOR EXAMPLE, THE TIME OF NIGHT. WERE PEOPLE IN SHELTER AND SAFE? OR WERE THEY ON THE ROAD AND TRAVELLING? FOR US, IT WAS LATE AT NIGHT. IN HINDSIGHT, WE WILL BE FACTORING IN THOSE THINGS. WHAT WE HAVE SENT AN EMERGENCY MOBILE ALERT AFTER MIDNIGHT WHEN THE IMPACTS WERE ALREADY HAPPENING AND WE WERE ALREADY RESPONDING ANYWAY? ARGUABLY, IT MAY NOT HAVE HAD A LOT OF BENEFIT. ROLL FORWARD TO SATURDAY, WHEN WE HAD A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT SCENARIO WHERE METSERVICE HAD ISSUED A SEVERE WEATHER WARNING, A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARMING, WHICH MEANS TO TAKE ACTION. IT WAS DURING THE DAY, AND PEOPLE WERE ON THE ROAD, AND THE OTHER FACTOR WAS THAT WE HAD IMPACTED COMMUNITIES FROM EARLY SATURDAY MORNING WHO WERE STILL VULNERABLE. WE HAD SATURATED SOILS, SO THE RISK OF SURFACE FLOODING WAS MUCH HIGHER. WE HAD NO HESITATION IN USING BATTLE TO ALERT THE PUBLIC. IN TERMS OF THE WEEKEND, BECAUSE THREE WENT OUT OVER THE WEEKEND, TWO ON THE SATURDAY AND ONE ON THE SUNDAY. WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE THREE ALERTS AND NOTHING GOING OUT ON THE FRIDAY? I KNOW THAT METSERVICE, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ISSUE THOSE WARNINGS, WHETHER IT IS FLOODING, THUNDERSTORMS ET CETERA, BUT WHAT CHANGED IN THAT TIME WHEREBY THREE OF THOSE ALERTS WENT OUT? AS I SAY, ON THE FRIDAY, IT WAS A WATCH LEVEL, WHICH IS A PRECAUTIONARY LEVEL. IT IS BE PREPARED. AGAIN, THE ONSET OF THAT STORM ON FRIDAY, IT HAD STARTED IMPACTING US ALREADY. WE HAD STARTED RESPONDING. ON SATURDAY, METSERVICE WERE WATCHING THE TAIL OF THE EXTRA BUCKLE CYCLONE, AND IT WAS VERY UNPREDICTABLE. THEY WERE ANALYSING AND IT WAS COMING TOWARDS AUCKLAND, AND THEY HAD MORE CONFIDENCE TO SAY, WE HAVE REAL CONCERN ABOUT THIS, HENCE THE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING. AS SOON AS WE KNEW THAT WAS HAPPENING, WHICH WAS ALL MOST IMMEDIATELY, WE JUST HAD, WE HAVE PEOPLE ON THE ROAD, WE HAVE HONOURABLE COMMUNITIES, AND WE HAVE SATURATED SOILS. WE NEED TO SEND OUT AN EMERGENCY MOBILE ALERT. I DO NEED TO WRAP THIS UP, BUT IN TERMS OF THE ALERTS THEN FOR THE PUBLIC, SHOULD THEY BE WAITING FOR THEM? IN FACT, THE KEY THING THEY NEED TO KNOW IS THAT IF THERE IS A THREAT TO LIFE OR PROPERTY, WE WILL NOT HESITATE USING THE MOST APPROPRIATE TOOL AT THAT TIME. NORMALLY, IF IT IS LOWER-LEVEL, WE USE OTHER MECHANISMS, BUT IF WE TRULY FEEL THAT THERE IS A THREAT TO LIFE OR PROPERTY, WE WILL NOT HESITATE USING THE BEST TOOL, AND IN THIS CASE, THE EMERGENCY MOBILE ALERT WAS THAT. REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING, ADAM. THANK YOU. POPE FRANCIS IS BEING REMEMBERED IN HIS HOME NATION OF ARGENTINA AFTER HE DIED OVERNIGHT AGED 88. MOURNERS GATHERING FOR MASS IN HIS BIRTH CITY BUENOS AIRES. FRANCIS THE FIRST POPE FROM LATIN AMERICA. ARGENTINA'S PRESIDENT ONE OF THE FIRST TO PAY TRIBUTE, DESPITE HAVING AT TIMES STARK IDEOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES WITH THE PROGRESSIVE PONTIFF. AP CORRESPONDENT ISABEL DEBREE IS IN THE CAPITAL AND FILED THIS REPORT. FEELINGS OVERALL AMONG ARGENTINES ABOUT POPE FRANCIS ARE MIXED AND, LIKE MANY THINGS IN THIS COUNTRY, DIVIDED ALONG THE POLITCAL LINES. BECAUSE POPE FRANCIS WAS SYMPATHETIC TO SOCIAL JUSTICE CAUSES, HE WAS SEEN HERE AS MAINLY ALIGNED WITH LEFT-WING LEADERS, AND THIS COUNTRY NOW GOVERENED BY A FAR-RIGHT ECONOMIST, JAVIER MILEI. BUT OVERALL, EVEN AS RADIO SHOWS DEBATED WHY POPE FRANCIS NEVER CAME TO ARGENTINA AND WHAT HIS POLITICS REALLY WERE, THE FEELING PREVAILING HERE IS ONE OF GRIEF AND SORROW. IT'S EXPECTED THE FUNERAL FOR THE POPE WILL HAPPEN WITHIN A WEEK. THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS ITS STANDING BY ITS DEFENCE SECRETARY PETE HEGSETH AFTER REPORTS HE'D SHARED DETAILS OF AN ATTACK ON HOUTHIS IN YEMEN IN A SECOND GROUP CHAT. THE CHAT, ON MESSAGING APP SIGNAL, INCLUDED HIS WIFE AND BROTHER. IT COMES A MONTH AFTER A JOURNALIST REVEALED HE WAS ACCIDENTALLY ADDED TO A SEPARATE GROUP CHAT WHERE SIMILAR INFORMATION WAS SHARED. A PLANE HAS CAUGHT FIRE SHORTLY BEFORE TAKE OFF AT AN AIRPORT IN FLORIDA, FORCING THE AIRCRAFT TO BE EVACUATED. 282 PASSENGERS AND 12 CREW WERE ON BOARD THE PLANE AT THE TIME, WITH NO INJURIES REPORTED. IN A STATEMENT, DELTA AIRLINES SAID THEY'RE LOOKING INTO THE CAUSE OF THE FIRE. THE EELS HAVE TAKEN DOWN THE TIGERS IN THEIR EASTER MONDAY RUGBY LEAGUE CLASH, PREVAILING 38-22 IN SYDNEY. PARRAMATTA CAPTAIN MITCHELL MOSES PLAYING IN HIS FIRST GAME BACK FROM INJURY, AND MAKING AN IMMEDIATE IMPACT WITH THREE TRY ASSISTS. MOSES ACROSS. HE'S FALLEN BACK INTO THE PLAY. AND OPENS IT UP. A STAR WHO IS GETTING BETTER BY THE WEEK. THEY REMAIN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE TABLE AFTER ROUND SEVEN. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE MARKETS. (FUNKY MUSIC) AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. PARTLY CLOUDY DAY FOR MOST OF THE NORTH ISLAND HERE. SOME SCATTERED SHOWERS ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLATEAU AND EAST COAST, CLEARING FROM THE LATE AFTERNOON. A HIGH OF 23 IN TAURANGA. 21 IN TAMAKI MAKAURAU AUCKLAND. TO THE SOUTH ISLAND ` A FINE DAY IN CANTERBURY AND THE WEST COAST. ELSEWHERE, BIT MORE GREY WITH POTENTIAL RAIN IN THE LATE AFTERNOON IN OTAGO AND FIORDLAND. 19 THE HIGH FOR THOSE IN GREYMOUTH. 18 IN QUEENSTOWN. THANKS, JACK. LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE IS MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING WITH OUR TEAM OF REPORTERS AROUND THE COUNTRY. A TWO-VEHICLE CRASH IN WAIKATO'S MANGAKINO YESTERDAY AFTERNOON HAS ADDED TO THE EASTER ROAD TOLL OVER THE WEEKEND. LUCY BENDELL JOINS US. WHAT NUMBER DOES IT STAND AT NOW, LUCY? GOOD MORNING. THE NUMBER STANDS AT FOUR, WITH THE OFFICIAL EASTER ROAD TOLL PERIOD ENDING JUST AFTER AN HOUR AGO AT 6 AM. THOSE ARE PROVISIONAL NUMBERS FROM POLICE STATEMENTS OVER THE WEEKEND. THE MINISTRY OF TRANSPORT ARE SET TO ANNOUNCE THE OFFICIAL NUMBERS FROM THE WEEKEND SHORTLY. THE FIRST CRASH HAPPENED IN NORTHLAND ON STATE HIGHWAY 12 AND A SINGLE VEHICLE CRASH ON GOOD FRIDAY, AND ON THE SECOND DAY, ON SATURDAY, A CRASH BETWEEN A CAR AND A CYCLIST HAPPENED, AND THE PERSON DIED AT THE SCENE, EVEN THOUGH THEY RECEIVED MEDICAL ASSISTANCE FROM EMERGENCY SERVICES. ON EASTER SUNDAY, THERE WERE NO FATAL CRASHES, BUT ON EASTER MONDAY, THERE WAS TWO, ONE ON STATE HIGHWAY THREE IN TARANAKI AND THE OTHER AND WAIKATO YESTERDAY AFTERNOON WHERE ONE PERSON DIED IN THE AFTERNOON. OTHERS WERE INJURED AND TRANSPORTED TO HOSPITAL. THOSE FOUR ARE LESS THAN LAST YEAR'S EASTER HOLIDAY ROAD TOLL NUMBERS, WHICH WAS SEVEN. BOTH CRASHES OVER THE WEEKENDS TO CLOSE A COUPLE OF ROADS, BUT THEY ARE NOW ALL BACK OPEN. WEST COAST PROTESTORS ARE REFUSING TO COME DOWN FROM MINE CABLE CARTS TO TAKE A STAND AGAINST THE COMPANY'S PLAN TO EXPAND OPERATIONS. LET'S BRING IN CHARLOTTE MULDER. HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN UP THERE SO FAR? WELL, AS OF THIS MORNING, THEY HAVE BEEN UP THERE FOR SIX DAYS. PROTESTERS ARE ATTEMPTING TO SHUT DOWN A COAL MINING COMPANY ON THE WEST COAST CALLED BETH HURST RESOURCES. IT COMES AFTER THEY ARE ATTEMPTING TO SEEK A FAST TRACK APPROVAL TO EXTEND THEIR STOCKS IN THE MIND, BUT ALSO THEY ARE TO EXTRACT AROUND 20 MILLION TONS OF COAL FROM THEIR PLATEAUS OVER THE NEXT 25 YEARS, WHICH CLIMATE ACTIVISTS ARE NOT THRILLED ABOUT. AROUND 70 ACTIVISTS HAVE BEEN UP THERE LIKE I SAID FOR THE PAST SIX DAYS AS OF TODAY. THEY ARE REFUSING TO COME DOWN FOR ANY AUTHORITIES. ONE OF THE ACTIVISTS SAYS THEY ARE DOING THIS FOR THE GOOD OF THE PRISTINE ENVIRONMENT, WHICH THEY ARE CURRENTLY RESIDING IN, AND THEY ARE ALSO SPECIES THERE WHICH ARE NOT IN ANY OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD. BETH HURST RESOURCES HAVE ALSO RELEASED A STATEMENT TO SAY THAT THEY ARE CONCERNED FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THESE ACTIVISTS, WHO ARE NOW BEING FORMALLY CHARGED WITH TRESPASSING. POLICE HAVE TAKEN ONE PERSON INTO CUSTODY, BUT THOSE CLIMATE ACTIVISTS SAY THEY ARE NOT DETERRED BY THIS AND THEY WILL BE DOING ANYTHING, NO MATTER WHAT IT TAKES, TO ALLOW THEIR VOICES TO BE HEARD IN THE NEXT COMING DAYS. THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE, CHARLOTTE. WE WILL BE SPEAKING TO 1 OF THE PROTESTERS JUST AFTER 8 O'CLOCK THIS MORNING. ME U TONU MAI ` HOW TO BURN BRIGHT AT WORK BUT NOT BURN OUT. SOME ADVICE FOR MAINTAINING THAT PERFECT WORK-LIFE BALANCE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN. GOOD LUCK. I DON'T KNOW. (UPBEAT MUSIC) WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. HERE'S WHAT'S MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING. POPE FRANCIS IS BEING REMEMBERED IN HIS HOME NATION OF ARGENTINA AFTER HE DIED OVERNIGHT AGED 88. PROTESTERS ATTEMPTING TO SHUT DOWN A COAL MINE ON THE WEST COAST HAVE NOW BEEN TRESPASSED BY THE MINING COMPANY. THE EELS HAVE TAKEN DOWN THE TIGERS IN THEIR EASTER MONDAY RUGBY LEAGUE CLASH, PREVAILING 38-22 IN SYDNEY. JUGGLING WORK AND LIFE IS A BALANCING ACT MANY OF US STRUGGLE WITH, BUT HOW CAN YOU BURN BRIGHT WITHOUT BURNING OUT? WHETHER IT'S A MUCH-NEEDED BREAK OR LOOKING DEEP WITHIN YOURSELF, HR SPECIALIST AND FRIEND OF THE SHOW JESS STUART IS HERE WITH HER ADVICE. MORENA. I THINK ADVICE POINT NUMBER ONE IS IF YOU CAN, TAKE THE THREE DAYS BETWEEN THE EASTER BREAK AND ANZAC DAY. WE NEED NOT WORRY THAT CHRIS CHANG HAS GOT THE WORKLIFE BALANCE DONE. WHAT IS BURNOUT? IT IS THE EXTINCTION OF MOTIVATION AND INCENTIVE. IT OFTEN COMES WITH HEALTH IMPLICATIONS AS WELL, AND IT IS A TRICKY ONE, BECAUSE OFTEN WE DO NOT KNOW IT IS HAPPENING UNTIL IT IS TOO LATE. IT CAN BE QUITE SERIOUS. THEY CAN TAKE A LONG TIME TO RECOVER FROM. WHAT OTHER SYMPTOMS THAT YOU MIGHT BE GETTING IF YOU ARE BEING OVERWHELMED BY STUFF? IT IS OFTEN A SLOW BURN, SO IT CAN BE EASY TO PUT THE SYMPTOMS DOWN TO OTHER THINGS. FOR ME, I REMEMBER WITHDRAWING FROM ALL MY SOCIAL OBLIGATIONS AND FAMILY AND GOING, THAT IS NORMAL BECAUSE I AM BUSY AT WORK. THERE WERE HEALTHY HABITS THAT WENT OUT THE DOOR AND BAD HABITS THAT STARTED TO CREEP IN. JUST AN EXHAUSTION THAT SLEEP DOES NOT FIX. THAT IS OFTEN ACCOMPANIED BY HEALTH ISSUES THAT ARE NOT NORMAL, AND WHEN THESE THINGS COMPOUND, IN HINDSIGHT LOOKING BACK, IT IS QUITE OBVIOUS, BUT AT THE TIME, IT CAN BE A SLOW BURN, AND OFTEN THINGS WE JUST PUT DOWN TO BEING WORKING HARD AND PURSUING A CAREER. I AM GUILTY OF THAT, THINKING I AM SO GOOD BECAUSE I AM WORKING SO HARD. BUT IN THE LONG RUN, IT IS NOT IN ANYONE'S BEST INTERESTS. IS BURNOUT ALWAYS A BREAKING POINT? DO PEOPLE GET TO A POINT WHERE SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THEY HAVE GONE OFF THE CLIFF? THAT IS OFTEN WHERE WE FIRST NOTICED, AND I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT, THERE IS A MYTH THAT MORE IS ALWAYS BETTER, AND THE HARDER WE WORK THE MORE WE ACHIEVE. IN REALITY, IF WE ARE BUSY AND EXHAUSTED ALL OF THE TIME AND ON THE VERGE OF BURNOUT, WE ARE NOT EFFECTIVE AND NOT AT OUR BEST, AND THAT IS THE RECIPE THAT WE HAVE BEEN SOLD. I SOMETIMES WONDER IF THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO APPROACH THIS TO SAY IF YOU WANT TO BE PRODUCTIVE AND ACHIEVE THINGS, YOU NEED TO STRUCTURE AND SOME BALANCE, BECAUSE IF YOU DO NOT HAVE IT, YOU WILL NOT BE NEARLY AS EFFECTIVE AS YOU THINK YOU WILL BE. WHAT ARE YOUR TOP TIPS FOR MAINTAINING A GOOD WORKLIFE BALANCE? FOR ME, I THINK IT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN QUALITY AND QUANTITY. WE ARE OFTEN FOCUSED ON THE QUANTITY MODEL ` HOW MANY HOURS CAN I WORK RATHER THAN QUALITY. HOW CAN I ADD VALUE AND IMPACT ON WHAT ARE THE MOST SENSIBLE THING FOR ME TO DO? YOU MENTIONED BREAKS BEFORE. HAVING BOUNDARIES AND BEING ABLE TO SAY NO SUCH A GOOD SKILL TO BURNOUT PROOF OURSELVES. IT IS A CONCEPT LIKE OR SLOWING DOWN TO SPEED UP. SOMETIMES WHEN WE TAKE THESE BREAKS, WE GET MORE EFFECTIVE AND CAN FOCUS BETTER AND THINGS DO NOT TAKE AS LONG AND WE MAKE LESS MISTAKES. THAT HELPS US PERFORM BETTER, AND WE THINK IF WE TAKE BREAKS WE ARE TAKING TIME AWAY FROM WORK RATHER THAN THE TAKING OF THE BREAKS ACTUALLY HELP US DO THE WORK BETTER. WHAT DO THE BREAKS LOOK LIKE? DO YOU MEAN A HOLIDAY? THAT WOULD BE NICE. CHRIS CHANG, I AM LOOKING AT YOU. I WOULD SAY IT IS ABOUT MAKING THE MOST OF OUR MOMENTS. IT IS PURPOSE PAUSES AND OFTEN. EVEN THINGS LIKE HAVING YOUR LUNCH BREAK, AND MOST OF US THINK WHEN WE ARE BUSY WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH OUR BREAKS. BUT HAVING THOSE BREAKS CAN MAKE SUCH AN IMPACT TO OUR COGNITIVE FUNCTION AS WELL AS THE SENSE OF OVERLOAD AND OVERWHELM. HOW IMPORTANT IS EXERCISE? SOMETIMES WITH THESE THINGS IT IS SO SIMPLE WE THINK IT IS TOO SIMPLE. IF WE NEED THE RIGHT THINGS, THEY GIVE US THE RIGHT ENERGY, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS, MOST OF THIS IS MANAGING OUR ENERGY, AND THAT STUFF DOES THAT. IT IS LIKE DOING AN ENERGY AUDIT. THE MOBILE PHONE BATTERIES GIVE US A VERY SPECIFIC PERCENTAGE, AND IF WE HAD THAT WITHIN US, WE WOULD KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH IS LEFT IN OUR BATTERY, BUT MOST OF US DO NOT KNOW UNTIL OUR BATTERY IS EMPTY BECAUSE WE GET SICK THAT THE BATTERY WAS DEPLETED. THAT IS A WAY OF BEING ABLE TO TRACK THIS. IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT IT. BUT WHAT IF YOU ARE AN EMPLOYEE WHO FEELS LIKE YOU ARE BEING PUSHED TOO FAR AND YOU ARE NOT IN A GOOD SPACE ` HOW SHOULD YOU GO ABOUT HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH YOUR EMPLOYER IN TRYING TO CREATE SOME BETTER BOUNDARIES AND PERHAPS GIVE YOU A BIT OF SPACE AND AVOID BURNOUT? IT IS A REALLY BIG QUESTION BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF STIGMA ATTACHED, AND WE DO NOT WANT TO GO TO OUR EMPLOYER AND SAY, I AM WORRIED ABOUT BURNING OUT, BECAUSE WE THINK THEY WILL THINK WE CANNOT COPE. A LOT OF THIS IS HOW WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION. I OFTEN SAY TO PEOPLE I AM ADVISING THAT IF IT IS IN POSSESSION OF A PERFORMANCE RATHER THAN WELLNESS, SOMETIMES IT CARRIES MORE WEIGHT, AND IT SHOULDN'T, BECAUSE OF ITS BOTH, AND YET IF WE CAN TALK TO ALAN PLAYER ABOUT HOW DO YOU GET THE BEST OUT OF ME AND HOW DO I KEEP PERFORMING WELL AND REMAIN SUSTAINABLE SO I CAN DO MY BEST WORK DAY IN AND DAY OUT, THAT IS THE KIND OF COMPOSITION WE NEED TO HAVE, AND THAT INCLUDES TAKING BREAKS AND DOING THE SLOWING DOWN TO SPEED UP. YOU CAN UNDERSTAND HOW FROM AN EMPLOYER'S PERSPECTIVE, A LOT OF THE TIME, THEY ARE FOCUSED ON INPUT RATHER THAN OUTPUT WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR EMPLOYEES. THERE IS A PART OF THIS, AND IT MIGHT REQUIRE A BIT OF A CULTURAL MIND SHIFT FOR SOME EMPLOYERS, BUT LOOKING AT THEIR EMPLOYEES AND SAYING, THE BEST WAY FOR MY BUSINESS TO BE PRODUCTIVE OR FOR MY ORGANISATION TO BE PRODUCTIVE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT I STRUCTURE THESE BREAKS, AND THAT WILL GIVE MY EMPLOYEES THE KIND OF MINDSET THAT WILL MAKE THEM PRODUCE THE MOST OR DO THE BEST JOB. AND KEEP THEM HANGING AROUND. IT IS REALLY EXPENSIVE FOR EMPLOYERS TO REPLACE PEOPLE, SO IF WE CAN MAKE SURE OUR PEOPLE ARE SUSTAINABLE AND THEY ARE DOING THE BEST WORK DAY IN AND DAY OUT, THAT IS GOING TO HELP US WITH ALL OF THE THINGS THE EMPLOYERS FOCUSED ON AND IT IS GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EMPLOYEES ARE HAPPIER AND HEALTHIER AS WELL. LOVE YOUR WORK. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND YOU CAN FIND JESS' FULL ARTICLE ON 1news.co.nz. HOW ARE YOU GOING WITH THE NEW BABY? I AM THINKING OF TRYING TO GET THE BALANCE READY. EXERCISE, EATING WELL, I AM LIKE, OKAY. I WONDER IF JESS HAS DELIBERATELY WRITTEN THIS ARTICLE AND THEY HAVE PUT THIS ON BREAKFAST JUST AS A SUBTLE MESSAGE FOR ME. I AM DOING WELL, JENNY-MAY. IT IS HARD TO GET THE BALANCE RIGHT BETWEEN WORK AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS GOING ON IN LIFE. JESS, I JUST WANT TO SAY, I HAVE FOUND THAT I HAD TO HIT THE BOTTOM BEFORE KIND OF REALISING, OKAY, THE HABITS I HAVE GOT NOW I'M NOT WORKING FOR THE HOURS I AM WORKING IN A SPLIT SHIFT. SO DOING THOSE SMALL THINGS, IT IS SO RIGHT. DOING THOSE SMALL THINGS WITHOUT THE PHONE WHEN YOU ARE NOT FOCUSING ON GOING LIKE THIS. MOMENTS IN THE MORNING BEFORE I GET IN HERE HAVING BREAKFAST. I JUST SIT THERE AND EAT, AND THAT IS IT. YOU JUST TAKE THE TIME FOR YOURSELF. WHEN YOU HAVE KIDS, EVERYONE'S A BIT OF YOUR BET AND EVERYONE IS GETTING UP FROM THE TABLE AND YOU ARE CONSTANTLY MOVING. TAKING THE MOMENT, JACK. I WILL TAKE YOUR ADVICE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL SEE IF YOU STICK WITH THAT IF I DO NOT ANSWER YOUR CALL LATER ON. E HAERE AKE NEI ` THE TANGIBLE CHANGE LEFT BY POPE FRANCIS. HOW HE INFLUENCED THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DURING HIS TIME IN THE VATICAN. (UPBEAT MUSIC) THIS IS A LIVE SHOT FROM ST PETERS WHERE IN ROME OUTSIDE VATICAN CITY. THERE ARE MANY HUNDREDS, OR THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE GATHERING OUTSIDE THE VATICAN AS THEY PREPARE TO PAY THEIR RESPECTS. YOU CAN SEE THEIR PEOPLE GATHERING FOR THE ROSARY FOR POPE FRANCIS AT THE BASILICA WHERE HE IS EXPECTED TO BE BURIED IN THE COMING DAYS. (UPBEAT MUSIC) IT IS COMING UP 6:55. POPE FRANCIS IS BEING REMEMBERED AS A LEADER OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WHO MADE TANGIBLE CHANGE FOR MARGINALISED COMMUNITIES. TRIBUTES ARE FLOWING AFTER HIS PASSING AT THE AGE OF 88. IN NEW ZEALAND, ABOUT A THIRD OF US ARE CATHOLIC ` JUST OVER 32% AS OF THE 2023 CENSUS. FOR MORE ON POPE FRANCIS' INFLUENCE, WE'RE JOINED BY RELIGIOUS HISTORIAN PETER LINEHAM. PETER, IT IS LOVELY TO HAVE YOU ON THE PROGRAM. TALK TO ME ABOUT POPE FRANCIS AND HOW HE APPROACHED THINGS DIFFERENTLY TO PREVIOUS POPES. THE TRADITIONAL ROLE OF THE PAPACY IS VERY FORMAL AND REQUIRES AN ODD COMBINATION OF ADMIN OF SKILL AND OF BEING THE PUBLIC FACE OF THE CHURCH. I DON'T THINK POPE FRANCIS EVER SHOWED ANY PARTICULAR SKILL AS BEING THE FORMAL PUBLIC FACE. HE WAS INSTEAD THE INFORMAL FACE OF THE CHURCH. AND AS A RESULT, THERE WAS A TREMENDOUS SWELL OF INTEREST AND SUPPORT AND LOVE, I THINK, FROM NON-CATHOLICS, AS WELL AS FROM THE GENERAL CATHOLIC POPULATION. BUT IT DID NOT GO DOWN WELL WITH THE PEOPLE WHO WANTED THAT FORMAL CATHOLIC, AUTHORITATIVE PAPAL FIGURE. SO HE STOOD FOR A NEW KIND OF PAPACY. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT INFORMALITY, IT WAS THE WAY HE SPOKE TO PEOPLE. HE WOULD HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE WHEREBY PREVIOUS POPES ` THAT WAS NOT THE WAY IN WHICH THEY ACTED. EVERYTHING WAS SCRIPTED FOR MOST POPES. AND THINK ABOUT THE FACT THEY ARE GENERALLY ELDERLY MAN, SO THEREFORE THEY DON'T WANT TO RUSH AROUND. WHERE IS THIS POPE WAS COMPLETELY INFORMAL, IGNORING THE CONSTRAINTS OF HIS AGE. HE WAS OLD WHEN HE ALREADY BEGAN. HE WOULD PICK UP THE PHONE AND TALK TO ANYBODY FROM ANY BACKGROUND. THIS TROUBLED AND SEEMED TO DESTABILISE THE CHURCH FOR SOME PEOPLE IN IT. BECAUSE WHAT WAS HE SAYING TO GAY PEOPLE OR TO DISABLED PEOPLE OR TO TRAIN PEOPLE? THEY DIDN'T QUITE KNOW WHAT WOULD COME OUT OF HIS MOUTH NEXT. IN TERMS OF HIS PAPACY, REFLECTING BACK 12 AGO YEARS NOW, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS HE DID WAS KISS THE FEET OF THOSE WHO WERE INCARCERATED, KISS THE FEET OF THOSE WHO WERE POOR. AND OF COURSE THE NAME THAT HE TOOK WAS FRANCIS. CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE? THIS WAS VERY BOLD. IT IS EIGHT CENTURIES SINCE FRANCIS WAS A DOMINATING PRESENCE IN THE CHURCH. HE IS MUCH LOVED, BUT HE WAS THE APOSTLE TO THE POOR. HE REACHED OUT TO THOSE BEYOND THE FRINGES, AND SO TO TAKE THE NAME FRANCIS WAS TO RE-STEER THE CHURCH AND ITS LEADERSHIP TO SAY, WE HAVE TO LOOK DIFFERENT IN THE PRESENT DAY. AND REMEMBER HE WAS COMING AFTER THE PREVIOUS POPE, MOST UNUSUALLY, WHO HAD RESIGNED. BENEDICT FELT HE WAS UNABLE TO HANDLE THE TROUBLES WHICH THE VATICAN AND THE SERIES OF CLERICAL SCANDALS HAD GOTTEN INTO. THEY KNEW THEY HAD TO CHOOSE SOMEBODY VERY DIFFERENT, AND THEY CERTAINLY DID. IN TERMS OF POPE FRANCIS, THEN, AND HIS PAPACY, DO YOU SEE HIM AS PROGRESSIVE? IS THAT HOW THE CHURCH SAW HIM, AS A PROGRESSIVE POPE? I THINK THERE IS A BIT OF A GAP BETWEEN THE WAYS HE COMMUNICATED AND HIS STYLE AND WHAT ACTUALLY HAS CHANGED IN THE SHAPE OF THE CHURCH STOPPED ACTUALLY NOT A LOT HAS CHANGED. EVEN THOUGH THERE HAS BEEN PROMISES OF CHANGES IN TALKS OF LGBT PEOPLE, NOT A LOT HAS CHANGED. THERE HAS BEEN TALK OF ALLOWING WOMEN TO BE DEACONS. EVEN THOUGH THE GREAT SENATE WAS HELD IN ROME, NOTHING ACTUALLY CAME ABOUT. AND MARRIED PRIESTS ` THAT COULD BE INTRODUCED. THERE IS ACTUALLY NO TECHNICAL REASON WHY PRESS COULD NOT BE MARRIED, EXCEPT FOR THE DECISION OF THE COUNCIL. THAT DECISION WAS NOT MADE EITHER. SO I THINK POPE FRANCIS WAS CONSERVATIVE BUT CARING ` INTERESTING COMBINATION. SO JUST FINALLY, THE PROCESS NOW TO FIND A NEW POPE THAT BEGINS. YES. AND I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER IS THAT HE HAS CHOSEN SO MANY NEW CARDINALS. SO OF 135 CARDINALS THAT WILL ASSEMBLE IN ABOUT ONE FORTNIGHT, 105 ARE COMPLETELY NEW. THEY HAD NOT BEEN THROUGH A PROCESS BEFORE. PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE WILL BECOME A NEW POPE. THEY WILL HAVE TO KNOW EACH OTHER FIRST. IT IS GOING TO BE A STRANGE CONCLAVE. AND A VERY LONG PROCESS, RIGHT? (LAUGHS) WE WILL WAIT AND SEE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. LOVELY TO SEE YOU. IT IS INTERESTING. HE WAS THE FIRST JESUIT POPE AND IN SOME RESPECTS WAS NOT VERY JESUITS. BY THE WAY, ONE THIRD OF NEW ZEALANDERS ARE NOT CATHOLIC. IT IS 11%. YOUR SCRIPTWRITERS GOT IT TOTALLY WRONG. 11%? 11 11% OF KIWIS. 1.4 BILLION CATHOLICS WORLDWIDE WHICH MAKES IT THE BIGGEST NOMINATION. COMING UP ON THE SHOW THIS HOUR ` WE'LL HEAD BACK TO ROME AS TRIBUTES FLOW FOR THE LATE POPE FRANCIS. THE PRIME MINISTER IS IN LONDON AND HAS MET WITH THE KING OVERNIGHT. CHRISTOPHER LUXON IS STANDING BY AND WILL JOIN US FROM LONDON SHORTLY. PLUS, ST MARY'S PRIMARY SCHOOL IN HOKITIKA HAS BEEN LOOKING FOR A NEW PRINCIPAL SINCE LAST YEAR. STUDENTS ARE TAKING MATTERS INTO THEIR OWN HANDS WITH A FULL-SCALE 'PRINCIPAL WANTED' MISSION. WE WILL TELL YOU ABOUT THAT SHORTLY. IT'S 7 O'CLOCK. HERE'S THE NEWS WITH JENNY MAY. THE VATICAN HAS REVEALED POPE FRANCIS DIED OF A STROKE AND IRREVERSIBLE HEART FAILURE AS A RESULT. THE 88-YEAR-OLD HAD STRUGGLED WITH HEALTH ISSUES THROUGHOUT HIS LIFE AND HAD RECENTLY BEEN DISCHARGED FROM HOSPITAL WITH LIFE-THREATENING DOUBLE PNEUMONIA. IN HIS FINAL TESTAMENT, THE PONTIFF HAD ASKED TO BE BURIED OUTSIDE THE VATICAN. FROM ABORTION TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND IMMIGRATION, POPE FRANCIS WAS OFTEN OUTSPOKEN ABOUT POLITICAL AND DIVISIVE ISSUES, PERHAPS NONE MORE SO THAN GAY RIGHTS, SAYING LAWS THAT CRIMINALISED HOMOSEXUALITY WERE UNJUST. THE FIRST LATIN AMERICAN PONTIFF ALSO EXPANDING THE CATHOLIC CHURCH'S ACCEPTANCE OF SAME-SEX COUPLES. POPE FRANCIS HAS BEEN A GREAT ICEBREAKER. HE HAS OPENED NEW DOORS, NEW ROADS. IT'S THE FIRST POPE WHO HAS GIVEN... THE HOMOSEXUALS THE RIGHT TO BE EQUAL CITIZENS IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. HE HAS DECIDED THAT COUPLES OF HOMOSEXUALS CAN BE BLESSED. FRANCIS ALSO WORKED TO GIVE WOMEN MORE LEADERSHIP ROLES IN THE CHURCH, NAMING THE FIRST WOMAN TO HEAD A MAJOR VATICAN OFFICE IN JANUARY. AUCKLAND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS DEFENDING ITS APPROACH TO ISSUING EMERGENCY MOBILE ALERTS OVER THE WEEKEND, SAYING THERE ARE MANY FACTORS THAT HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED. NO ALERT WAS SENT ON FRIDAY NIGHT WHEN THUNDERSTORMS PROMPTED MORE THAN 200 EMERGENCY CALLS, BUT PHONE WERE PINGED SEVERAL TIMES ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. THE ORGANISATION'S GENERAL MANAGER SAYS PROTOCOL WAS FOLLOWED AND CONSIDERS THINGS LIKE THE TIMING OF THE SEVERE WEATHER EVENT, THE LEVEL OF THREAT AND IF EMERGENCY SERVICES WERE RESPONDING. THE KEY DIFFERENCE WITH FRIDAY NIGHT WAS THAT THERE WERE NO WATCHES OR WARNINGS IN PLACE FROM METSERVICE. SO FOR US, THAT GIVES US A LOWER LEVEL OF RISK IN TERMS OF SEVERITY FOR AUCKLAND. HE SAYS EMERGENCY ALERTS HAVE A HIGH THRESHOLD, AND AN ALERT ON FRIDAY NIGHT WOULDN'T HAVE MADE MUCH IMPACT. OLYMPIANS HAVE BEEN HONOURED WITH THE WORLD'S TOP SPORTING PRIZE AT THE LAUREUS AWARDS CEREMONY THIS MORNING. SWEDISH POLE VAULT CHAMPION MONDO DUPLANTIS NAMED THE LAUREUS WORLD SPORTSMAN OF THE YEAR AWARD AFTER WINNING GOLD AT THE PARIS OLYMPICS. IT WAS HIS FIRST WIN AFTER BEING NOMINATED IN FOUR CONSECUTIVE YEARS. AND AMERICAN GYMNAST SIMONE BILES WAS NAMED THE LAUREUS WORLD SPORTSWOMAN OF THE YEAR WILL FOR THE FOR THE FOURTH TIME. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE MARKETS. (FUNKY MUSIC) AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. PARTLY CLOUDY DAY FOR MOST OF THE NORTH ISLAND HERE. SOME SCATTERED SHOWERS ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLATEAU AND EAST COAST, CLEARING FROM THE LATE AFTERNOON. A HIGH OF 23 IN TAURANGA. 21 IN TAMAKI MAKAURAU AUCKLAND. TO THE SOUTH ISLAND ` A FINE DAY IN CANTERBURY AND THE WEST COAST. ELSEWHERE, BIT MORE GREY WITH POTENTIAL RAIN IN THE LATE AFTERNOON IN OTAGO AND FIORDLAND. 19 THE HIGH FOR THOSE IN GREYMOUTH. 18 IN QUEENSTOWN. FLAGS WILL BE LOWERED TO HALF MAST AROUND THE COUNTRY TODAY TO MOURN THE PASSING OF POPE FRANCIS.FOREMAN IS PASSED TO TO MOURN THE PASSING OF POPE FRANCIS. A DECISION ON NEW ZEALAND REPRESENTATION AT HIS FUNERAL IS YET TO BE MADE. PRIME MINISTER CHRIS LUXON WAS IN LONDON WHEN THE NEWS BROKE. HE JOINS US NOW. CARE OR, PRIME MINISTER. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. FIRST OF ALL, YOUR REACTION TO THE POPE'S DEATH. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HIM, VERY HUMBLE... HE REALLY DID CARE ABOUT THE VULNERABLE. A LOT OF THE TRIBUTES THAT HAVE BEEN FLOWING AND THROUGHOUT THE DAY HAVE BEEN QUITE SPECIAL. OBVIOUSLY, I WAS WITH THE KING. WE ONLY HEARD ABOUT IT A COUPLE OF HOURS AFTER. PRIME MINISTER, FOR SOME REASON WE ARE HAVING SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES AT THE MOMENT. YOU SOUND LIKE YOU ARE UNDERWATER, AND IT IS VERY CLEAR YOU ARE NOT. WE WILL SEE IF WE CAN ORGANISE THOSE TECHNICAL ISSUES AND PERHAPS COME BACK TO YOU IN A MOMENT. BUT IF YOU ARE JUST JOINING US ON BREAKFAST THIS MORNING, THE NEWS CAME THROUGH TO NEW ZEALAND JUST AFTER 8:30 PM LAST NIGHT. OBVIOUSLY THE POPE HAD BEEN UNWELL FOR SOME TIME. NEWS FROM THE VATICAN THAT HE HAD PASSED A COUPLE OF HOURS EARLIER. A COUPLE OF HOURS BEFORE HIS DEATH ` QUITE AMAZING ` HE HAD GONE ABOUT HIS REGULAR OFFICIAL DUTIES. HE HAD HELD MASS AND EVEN MET WITH THE AMERICAN VP. MANY PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE DURING THE SERVICE THAT THE POPE WAS AT TALKED ABOUT HOW HE DID NOT LOOK WELL. HE ONLY SAID A FEW WORDS, AND THEN HE GOT INTO THE POPEMOBILE AND THEN MANY FEEL LIKE, WHETHER IT IS BEST, LUCKY TO BE THERE, KNOWING AT THE TIME HOW UNWELL HE DID LOOK. AS YOU SAY, THAT WAS ONLY FEW HOURS BEFOREHAND. HE HAD BEEN UNWELL FOR SOME TIME, SO IN A SENSE HIS DEATH WILL NOT BE A HUGE SHOCK. HE SPENT FIVE WEEKS IN HOSPITAL, AND WE KNOW HE ONLY MADE THE ODD PUBLIC APPEARANCE IN THE WEEKS FOLLOWING. OK, PRIME MINISTER, WE THINK, IS THAT WITH US NOW. I KNOW YOU WERE VERY QUICK TO EXPRESS YOUR SADNESS AT THE NEWS OF THE POPE'S DEATH, AND I APPRECIATE YOU ARE NOT A CATHOLIC. THAT BEING SAID, YOU ARE A PERSON OF FAITH. AND I WONDER HOW AN OCCASION LIKE THIS MAKES YOU REFLECT ON THE ROLE OF FAITH IN YOUR LIFE. ACTUALLY MY FAMILY WAS CATHOLIC. I WENT TO SCHOOL AS A CATHOLIC SCHOOL AS A YOUNG BOY. THE POPE HAD HUGE CARE FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE VULNERABLE AND IN DIFFICULT SITUATIONS WAS NOT HE HAD AN INFORMALITY THAT I DON'T THINK WE HAD SENT FOR SOME TIME IN A POKE, AND THEY THINK AT THE SAME TIME HE HAD A GOOD DRIVE AROUND INTERFAITH EFFORTS AS WELL. HE INTERACTED WITH PEOPLE OF ALL FAITHS WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT. HE WAS AN EXTRA MERRY PERSON AND A BIG LOSS TO PEOPLE. YOU ARE IN LONDON, AND YOU WILL BE MEETING WITH THE UK PRIME MINISTER TOMORROW, AND YOU HAVE MET WITH KING CHARLES OVERNIGHT. TELLS ABOUT THAT. IT IS A LONG-STANDING CONVENTION THAT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THE DETAIL OF THIS CONVERSATION, BUT SUFFICE TO SAY HE HAS A GREAT AMOUNT OF TIME FOR NEW ZEALAND AND WAS INTERESTED IN WHAT WAS HAPPENING BACK HOME. TOMORROW IS A GOOD CHANCE TO SPEND A DISTANT AMOUNT OF TIME WITH THE UK PRIME MINISTER. IT IS AN IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP FOR US., ONE WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO DEEPEN AND BROADEN ON DIFFERENT FRONTS. DEFENCE AND SECURITY AND ALSO TRADE. WE HAVE MADE GREAT PROGRESS AROUND TRADE AND INVESTMENT. THAT WILL BE THE NATURE OF OUR CONVERSATIONS TOMORROW. WHAT ARE THE TANGIBLE PRIORITIES WHEN IT COMES TO THAT CONVERSATION? WHAT YOU WANT OUT OF IT? REALLY, FOR US, IT IS ABOUT DEEPENING OUR COMMITMENT AROUND DEFENCE AND SECURITY. I AM REALLY PROUD OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE HAD 100 NEW ZEALAND DEFENCE FORCE PERSONNEL WORKING WITH THE BRITISH, AND WE HAVE TRAINED ABOUT 53,000 UKRAINIAN SOLDIERS. WE WILL BOTH GO AND VISIT OUR SOLDIERS IN THE SOUTH OF ENGLAND AND SPENT SOME TIME WITH THEM AND TALKING WITH THEM. AND WE GO BACK TO DOWNING STREET AND HAVE OUR ACTUAL MEETING AND TALK ABOUT WHAT MORE WE CAN BE DOING TO DEEPEN THE TIES BETWEEN NEW ZEALAND AND THE UK. PROGRESS AROUND TRADE ` OUR EXPORTS TO THE UK ARE UP AROUND 21% FROM LAST YEAR. IT IS IMPORTANT. THERE IS OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO MORE AROUND THAT SPACE, ESPECIALLY AROUND SECTORS LIKE RENEWABLES AND TECHNOLOGIES. WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT. IT IS A CHANCE TO MAKE SURE WE NEVER TAKE THIS RELATIONSHIP FOR GRANTED. I WILL GO ONTO GALLIPOLI. AND THINKING WE HAVE BEEN FOR SO LONG IN PLACES LIKE GALLIPOLI WORKING TOGETHER, AND NOW WE ARE TRAINING UKRAINIAN SOLDIERS. CAN ASK WHAT ADVICE OR CONSIDERATION WINSTON PETERS GAVE YOU BEFORE THAT MEETING? (LAUGHS) MEETING 949. WE ARE CONFIDENT TALKING WITH HIM. THE TWO COUNTRIES ARE VERY LIKE-MINDED, AND WE GET ALONG WELL AND HAVE A SIMILAR APPROACH TO THINGS. THE MORE WE CAN DO WITH THE BRITS, IT MAKES SENSE FOR US. NEW ZEALAND HAS A FRESHLY MINTED FREE TRADE AGREEMENT WITH THE UNITED KINGDOM. WHAT AREAS YOU THINK THAT AGREEMENT MIGHT BE EXPANDED? WHAT OTHER TOP LINES GOING INTO THOSE NEGOTIATIONS? WE HAVE A GOOD AGREEMENT IN PLACE, AND IT IS A BROADENING AND DEEPENING THAT UP. TOMORROW NIGHT AND HAVE A FUNCTION WITH ABOUT 250 FOLK THAT DO BUSINESS BETWEEN THE UK AND NEW ZEALAND. IT IS ABOUT MAKING SURE WE OBVIOUSLY CONTINUE TO EXPAND FOOD AND BEVERAGE, OUR TRADITIONAL SECTORS, BUT THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF BRITISH INVESTMENT INTO RENEWABLES AND NEW ZEALAND, SO IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THAT. WE ARE USING THE ARCHITECTURE WE HAVE TO BUILD OUT TRADE BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTRIES. YOU TALKED ABOUT WANTING TO BRING THE EUROPEAN UNION INTO THE CEP TPP TRADE DEAL. THAT IS ACTUALLY NOT WHAT I SAID. I SAID THERE IS THAT HE YOU WITH ABOUT 27 COUNTRIES AND IT. THERE IS THE TPP BLOCK WITH TRADE, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE COUNTRIES DON'T ACTUALLY PASS OUT IMPOSING TARIFFS ON EACH OTHER. WHERE THERE ARE DISPUTES WITH DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, WE DON'T SEE THEM IMPOSING TARIFFS ON EACH OTHER. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A MOMENT OF TUMULT GLOBALLY. WHAT DID THE KING HAVE TO SAY? I OBVIOUSLY WON'T GO TOO MUCH INTO THAT. HE WAS INTERESTED IN NEW ZEALAND AS WELL AND HOW WE ARE HANDLING THAT. HE OBVIOUSLY CARES ABOUT THE COUNTRY, AND I SPENT A BIT OF TIME WITH HIM. AS THE LEADER OF A COMMONWEALTH COUNTRY, SEEING THAT THE KEEN KING HAS NOW ISSUED A FORMAL ISSUE FOR A VISIT TO DONALD TRUMP. DO YOU THINK THAT INVITATION IS APPROPRIATE FOR OUR EFFECTIVE HEAD OF STATE? THAT IS HIS ISSUE. MY JOB IS TO MAKE SURE I INFORM HIM ON ISSUES THAT HE HAS GOOD INSIGHTS AROUND. OUR TIME IN THE UK IS MAKING SURE WE DEEPEN OUT ON IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP FOR US. YOU HAVE BEEN TRAVELLING AROUND FOR THE LAST DAY OR TWO. WITH WILD WEATHER AFFECTING NEW ZEALANDERS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, IN YOUR OPINION, DID AUCKLAND GETS THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF WARNING? I THINK SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING THEY COULD HAVE GOT MORE INFORMATION. PEOPLE DID THEIR BEST. THERE ARE CERTAINLY THINGS WE CAN LEARN FROM IT. EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DO A GOOD JOB OF MAKING SURE WE CONTINUE TO LEARN FROM THESE EXPERIENCES. WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE BETTER, BUT FROM WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD COMMUNICATION HAPPENING. SO YOU ARE SATISFIED AUCKLANDERS HAD SUFFICIENT WARNING PARTICULARLY ON FRIDAY NIGHT WHEN THERE WERE ELECTRICAL STORMS AND THE POSSIBILITY OF FLOODING? THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THEY WERE MONITORING AND WATCHING FOR UNDER STORMS. WHETHER THEY SHOULD HAVE SAID OUT A WARNING AT THAT TIME, THEY CAN MAKE THE DECISION IN THEIR ASSESSMENT AFTERWARDS. WE ARE GETTING BETTER AT MANAGING THESE THINGS ` WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH FIRES IN THE PORT HILLS AND OTHER EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS. WE GET BETTER AND BETTER ON THE BACK OF THESE EVENTS. BY LARGE, I THINK THE COMMUNICATION TAKING PLACE IS GOOD, PEOPLE ARE WELL AWARE OF IT. IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT THAT NEW ZEALANDERS ALSO TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR EVENTS LIKE THAT IS OFFICE OF THERE WAS A LOSS OF WARNING ABOUT POOR WEATHER COMING OUR WAY, AND IT IS A REMINDER FOR NEW ZEALANDERS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THEIR EMERGENCY KIT AND THEIR PLANS IN PLACE FOR THEMSELVES AS WELL. WHAT IS GOING TO MEAN FOR YOU TO BE IN GALLIPOLI THIS WEEK? IT IS GOING TO BE VERY SPECIAL. IT IS THE 110TH COMMEMORATION. IT WILL BE A VERY SPECIAL MOMENT. IT WAS CLEARLY A DEFINING MOMENT IN OUR HISTORY, AND I AM LOOKING FOR TO SEEING IT FOR MYSELF AND UNDERSTANDING AND SPENDING SOME TIME WITH SOME OF THE HISTORIANS ON SITE THERE TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT IT. I STUDIED A LOT AS A KID AND READ A LOT ABOUT IT, SO IT IS PRETTY SPECIAL TO GO AND SEE IT. I YOU CONSIDERING PASSING THROUGH ROME ON THE WAY? I KNOW YOU PROBABLY HAVE A FEW HOURS TO CONSIDER YOUR PLANS. WE ARE GOING TO SEE WHAT THE FUNERAL ARRANGEMENTS ACTUALLY ARE, AND WE WILL MAKE A DECISION ONCE THE DETAILS I CLEAR. FOR NOW, MY FOCUS IS LOSING OUT A GOOD VISIT HERE IN THE UK IN THE NEXT TWO DAYS. GOING ONTO GALLIPOLI AND TAKING THINGS FROM THERE. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, PRIME MINISTER. E HAERE AKE NEI ` GIRL: I'm a Weet-bix kid. BOY: He's one. KID: Me too. MAN: And me. RUGBY PLAYER: I'm a Weet-bix kid, are you? (UPBEAT MUSIC) WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. HERE'S WHAT'S MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING. THE VATICAN HAS REVEALED POPE FRANCIS DIED OF A STROKE AND RESULTING IRREVERSIBLE HEART FAILURE. THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS IT IS STANDING BY ITS DEFENCE SECRETARY PETE HEGSETH AFTER REPORTS HE'D SHARED DETAILS OF AN ATTACK ON HOUTHIS IN YEMEN IN A SECOND GROUP CHAT THAT INCLUDED HIS WIFE AND BROTHER. AND BACK HERE, A CORONER'S INQUEST INTO THE DEATH OF CYCLIST OLIVIA PODMORE IS SET TO RESUME TODAY IN CHRISTCHURCH. AS WE'VE HEARD THIS MORNING, POPE FRANCIS HAS DIED AT THE AGE OF 88, AFTER MORE THAN A DECADE LEADING THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. KNOWN FOR HIS HUMILITY AND PUSH FOR REFORM, HIS DEATH MARKS THE END OF A HISTORIC PAPACY. 1 NEWS EUROPE CORRESPONDENT MEI HERON IS IN ROME AND JOINS US NOW. GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK WITH US. PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO GATHER AT ST PETER'S SQUARE. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE MOOD IS LIKE THERE NOW? GOOD MORNING. IT IS RIGHT AND TRULY DARK NOW. WHEN WE WERE HERE A FEW HOURS AGO, IT WAS LIGHT, AND THERE WERE LOTS OF PEOPLE HERE, AND I EXPECTED THAT AS IT GOT DARKER THAT PEOPLE WOULD START TO LEAVE. BUT PEOPLE ARE STILL ARRIVING. WHAT IS EXTRAORDINARY AS PEOPLE ARE ARRIVING FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE. I HAVE SPOKEN TO FAMILIES, COUPLES, OLDER PEOPLE, YOUNGER PEOPLE AND TOURISTS. IT HAS BEEN REMARKABLE TO SEE THE IMPACT THAT POPE FRANCIS HAS HAD ON MANY PEOPLES LIVES. I WANTED TO BE... LIKE, GIVE A TESTIMONY TO THE LIFE OF SOMEONE THAT HAS GIVEN THE WORLD SUCH A GOOD EXAMPLE. IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS UNIVERSAL. SOMETIMES PEOPLE TEND TO SAY, OH, THEY ARE FOR PEOPLE FROM THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT OR WHATEVER, BUT YOU CAN SEE ALL DIFFERENT TYPE OF PEOPLE HERE. IT'S JUST CRAZY TO KNOW THAT WE WERE HERE YESTERDAY, AND THEN AFTER, LIKE, JUST A FEW HOURS, HE WAS NOT WITH US ANY MORE. BEING ABLE TO WORK UNTIL THE END OF YOUR DAYS, IT'S SOMETHING SO REMARKABLE. LIKE, EVEN BEING THE FIRST LATIN-AMERICAN POPE, BEING ABLE FOR HIM TO BE WITH US IN EASTER ` SUCH A SPECIAL OCCASION FOR CATHOLICS. WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE HERE PRAYING WITH ROSEMARY, PRAYER BEADS, WE HAVE ALSO SEEN PEOPLE WEARING ARGENTINIAN FOOTBALL SHIRTS, CELEBRATING THE POPE BEING BORN IN ARGENTINA AND A BIG FOOTBALL FAN. THERE IS A SENSE OF SADNESS HERE BUT ALSO A SENSE OF CELEBRATION, WAY TO CELEBRATE A MAN THAT HAD LIVED A VERY FULL AND MEANINGFUL LIFE. TOWARDS THE END OF HIS LIFE, WE KNOW THAT HE WAS VERY UNWELL AND SPENT ABOUT FIVE WEEKS IN HOSPITAL BEFORE BEING DISCHARGED FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS. IN TERMS OF HIS DEATH, WHAT IS THE VATICAN SAYING? THE BASIC AND HAS JUST RELEASED A FEW DETAILS A SHORT TIME AGO THAT HE DIED OF A STROKE AND HEART FAILURE. AS YOU SAY, HE HAS BEEN SICK FOR SOME TIME NOW. MOST RECENTLY IN FEBRUARY, HE SPENT 36 DAYS IN HOSPITAL. HE HAD SEVERAL COLLAPSED LUNGS AND THAT PERIOD OF TIME. HE WAS SO SICK IN FACT THAT PEOPLE BELIEVED HE WOULD NOT SURVIVE THAT PERIOD IN HOSPITAL. I THINK IT WAS A REAL SHOCK FOR MANY PEOPLE WHO SAW HIM OUT ON THAT BALCONY OUT AND ABOUT YESTERDAY, EASTER SUNDAY HERE, TALKING TO THE PEOPLE, CELEBRATING ESTHER SUNDAY. DON'T FORGET ` EASTER SUNDAY, EASTER WEEKEND IS A MASSIVE DAY IN THE CALENDAR FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT I SPOKE TO TODAY WERE HERE YESTERDAY. I THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY POWERFUL FOR THEM, SEEING THEIR POPE OUT AND ABOUT SERVING THEIR PEOPLE JUST WITHIN 24 HOURS OF HIM PASSING AWAY. YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE POPE WANTED SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR HIS FUNERAL. WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS THAT PROCESS? THIS WAS VERY MUCH A POPE OF THE PEOPLE. WHEN HE TOOK OVER 12 YEARS AGO, HE REALLY SET OUT TO REJECT THE SORT OF LAVISH LIFESTYLE THAT PEOPLE THOUGHT CAME WITH BEING THE POPE, AND A BIG PART OF THAT WAS LOOKING AT THE WAY THAT POPES RETREATED WHEN THEY DID PASS AWAY. SO HE RECENTLY HAD PLANS APPROVED TO REALLY SCALE BACK WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A REALLY COMPLEX FUNERAL PROCESS. NOT ONLY THAT, HE HAS ALSO SCRATCH THE PROCESS OF HIM BEING PUT ON A HIGH ALTAR FOR PEOPLE TO COME BY AND SEE HIM. HE IS JUST GOING TO BE ON A SIMPLE OPEN COFFIN FOR PEOPLE TO PAY THEIR RESPECTS TO. WE SHOULD GET A FEW MORE DETAILS TOMORROW EXACTLY WHEN THAT FUNERAL WILL BE AND WHEN IT WILL PLAY OUT, BUT WE EXPECTED TO BE IN THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR DAYS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SUCH A GOOD POINT, AND THE VATICAN CITY IS VERY BUSY. THIS IS AN ESPECIALLY BUSY TIME, AND THERE WILL BE MANY PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD TRAVELLING JUST FOR THAT. IT IS GOING TO BE EXTRAORDINARY TO WATCH THE EVENTS IN ROME AND OUTSIDE THE BATTLE CITY FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS. AND WEEKS. OR POTENTIALLY MONTHS. A MURI I NGA WHAKATAIRANGA ` YOUR 7.30 NEWS, SPORT AND WEATHER. SEE YOU IN A MINUTE. WELCOME BACK INTO BREAKFAST. LOOK AT THAT, AUCKLAND. LOOKING GOOD. NOT MANY CLOUDS ON THE HARBOUR BRIDGE THIS MORNING. THAT IS FLOWING. THE TRAFFIC IS LOOKING GOOD. IS THAT YOUR IDEA OF GOOD? IT IS. NORMALLY AT HIS CHOCKA. IT IS CLOUDY AS. I WAS THINKING, MAN, WHAT IS JONNY MAY THINKING THIS MORNING? I WAS THINKING, MAN, WHAT IS JENNY MAY THINKING THIS MORNING? IT IS MOODY. LET'S JUST GO WITH THAT. LITTLE BIT OF FOG APPARENTLY. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF FOG. MAINLY FINE THIS AFTERNOON. ABOUT 21 DEGREES FOR AUCKLAND. THERE IS BEAUTY, HAMILTON. NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT HAS BEEN SPOKEN. HAMILTON EXPECTING A HIGH OF 22. COULD BE A FEW SHOWERS THIS AFTERNOON. WESTERLY WINDS AS WELL. CHRISTCHURCH, COME ON DOWN, OH, THERE YOU . I'M SURE IT IS BEAUTIFUL BEYOND THE FOG. WE ARE LOOKING OUT OVER CANTERBURY PLAINS. AS YOU KNOW, IT WILL CLEAR, IT IS GOING TO BE FINE TODAY. A HIGH OF 15. LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY NEEDS TO DO THE OLD ( EXHALES) OVER THE CAMERA IN CHRISTCHURCH THIS MORNING. PRAYER SERVICES ARE BEING HELD ACROSS THE GLOBE AS CATHOLICS WORLDWIDE MOURN THE DEATH OF POPE FRANCIS. HUNDREDS OF CATHOLICS GATHERED IN PARIS AT THE NOTRE DAME CATHEDRAL WHERE TOURS AND VISITS HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED. IN BRAZIL, HOME TO THE WORLD'S LARGEST CATHOLIC POPULATION, THERE WILL BE SEVEN DAYS OF MOURNING AND IN LONDON AT WESTMINSTER CATHEDRAL, THOSE IN MOURNING REFLECTED ON FRANCIS' LEGACY. SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN HOPE AND PRAY THAT THE NEXT POPE WILL CARRY HIS LEGACY FORWARD RATHER THAN TRYING TO RETRENCH AND REVERSE MUCH OF WHAT HE ACHIEVED. THE VATICAN HAS CONFIRMED HE DIED OF A STROKE AND SUBSEQUENT IRREVERSIBLE HEART FAILURE. FOUR PEOPLE DIED ON OUR ROADS THIS EASTER ROAD TOLL PERIOD. THE HOLIDAY ROAD TOLL OFFICIALLY ENDED AT 6am AND SITS BELOW LAST YEAR'S TOLL OF SEVEN. ON EASTER FRIDAY, ONE PERSON DIED ON STATE HIGHWAY 12 IN NORTHLAND. THE FOLLOWING DAY, THERE WAS A FATAL CRASH BETWEEN A CAR AND A CYCLIST IN HAWKE'S BAY. THE TWO OTHER INCIDENTS HAPPENED ON EASTER MONDAY ON STATE HIGHWAY 3 IN TARANAKI AND IN WAIKATO'S MANGAKINO. THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS IT'S STANDING BY ITS DEFENCE SECRETARY, PETE HEGSETH, AFTER REPORTS HE'D SHARED DETAILS OF AN ATTACK ON HOUTHIS IN YEMEN IN A SECOND GROUP CHAT. THE CHAT, ON MESSAGING APP SIGNAL, INCLUDED HIS WIFE AND BROTHER. IT COMES A MONTH AFTER A JOURNALIST REVEALED HE WAS ACCIDENTALLY ADDED TO A SEPARATE GROUP CHAT, WHERE SIMILAR INFORMATION WAS SHARED. A CORONER'S INQUEST INTO THE DEATH OF CYCLIST OLIVIA PODMORE IS SET TO RESUME TODAY IN CHRISTCHURCH. THE OLYMPIAN DIED OF A SUSPECTED SUICIDE IN 2021, WITH THE HEARING ADJOURNED LATE LAST YEAR FOR REASONS THAT CAN'T BE REPORTED. THE CORONER WILL LOOK INTO SEE CYCLING NEW ZEALAND GOOD ENOUGH TO SUPPORT HER. THE PROCEEDINGS HAVE BEEN MOVED TO CHRISTCHURCH FROM HAMILTON TO EASE THE FINANCIAL BURDEN ON PODMORE'S FAMILY. LET'S TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT THE MARKETS. (FUNKY JAZZ MUSIC) AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. PARTLY CLOUDY DAY FOR MOST OF THE NORTH ISLAND HERE. SOME SCATTERED SHOWERS ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLATEAU AND EAST COAST, CLEARING FROM THE LATE AFTERNOON. A HIGH OF 23 IN TAURANGA. 21 IN TAMAKI MAKAURAU AUCKLAND. TO THE SOUTH ISLAND ` A FINE DAY IN CANTERBURY AND THE WEST COAST. ELSEWHERE, BIT MORE GREY WITH POTENTIAL RAIN IN THE LATE AFTERNOON IN OTAGO AND FIORDLAND. 19 THE HIGH FOR THOSE IN GREYMOUTH. 18 IN TAHUNA QUEENSTOWN. JUST QUICKLY, I WANT TO GO TO SOME FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM MOANA ABOUT THE EMERGENCY AUCKLAND MANAGEMENT ABOUT THE WARNINGS WE GOT OVER THE WEEKEND ABOUT THE CYCLONE COMING ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND WHETHER ON THAT FRIDAY NIGHT, WHETHER THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN WARNINGS OR NOT. I THINK SUFFICIENT WARNINGS WERE GIVEN. THE QUESTION SHOULD BE THAT THE COUNCIL HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO PREPARE GIVEN THE LENGTH BEFORE THE STORMS CAME IN. PEOPLE DIDN'T GET A WARNING ON FRIDAY WHEN THE WORSE THE WEATHER CAME THROUGH, BUT THEN THEY GOT THREE WARNINGS OVER THE WEEKEND WHEN THERE WAS SOME WILD WEATHER. WE SAW THE PICTURES OF THE FLOODING OVER THE WEEKEND FROM FRIDAY. LIKE SOME OF THE DAMAGE WAS ISOLATED, WEIRDLY ISOLATED. NOT SO BAD IN SOME SUBURBS REALLY BAD IN OTHER SUBURBS. THEY CENTRE ON FRIDAY NIGHT, IT WOULD HAVE COME AFTER MIDNIGHT, DIRECTOR AND THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN LOTS OF PEOPLE THINKING THAT IT WAS RIDICULOUS THAT THEY HAVE WOKEN UP AND IT DIDN'T CAUSE FLOODING AT THE HOUSE. YOU EITHER GET THE WARNINGS ARE NOTHING HAPPENS, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED FOR MOST OF AUCKLAND OVER FRIDAY, AND THEN THE ALERTS START COMING OVER THE WEEKEND, AND NOTHING EVENTUATED FROM IT. DAMNED IF YOU DO, DOWN IF YOU DON'T. KAREN SAYS AUCKLAND IS A CLASSIC PLACE MISUNDERSTANDS SO IT IS VERY HARD TO PINPOINT WHERE IT WILL HIT AND HOW MUCH RAIN WILL FALL. PEOPLE EXPECTING MUCH FROM OUR WEATHER TEAMS. AUCKLAND EMERGENCY WAITS FOR THOSE ALERTS TO COME THROUGH FROM METSERVIVE, FROM THAT POINT, THEY HAVE TO ASSESS THAT, THEY HAVE TO ASSESS LOCAL KNOWLEDGE, AND MAY ALSO HAVE TO ASSESS WHETHER OUR EMERGENCY DEPARTMENTS ARE ALSO GOING OUT TO CALLS. OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME ON THAT AUCKLAND KNIGHT GOING INTO THE EARLY HOURS OF THE MORNING, THERE WERE OVER 200 CALLS TO EMERGENCY SERVICES. THAT WERE A COUPLE OF PLACES THAT HAD TO BE EVACUATED, AND SO YOU GO IN HINDSIGHT, SHOULD THE WARNING HAVE GONE OUT ON FRIDAY? BUT THEN, SHOULD IT HAVE GONE OUT AFTER MIDNIGHT, BECAUSE AGAIN, SOME PEOPLE WERE BADLY AFFECTED IN SOME SUBURBS, I CAN IMAGINE THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF MOANERS SAYING THAT THEY WERE WOKEN UP AT MIDNIGHT AND NOTHING HAPPENED AT THEIR HOUSE. I GUESS, THE POINT IS THAT, YES, THOSE ALERTS ARE IMPORTANT, BUT ACTUALLY, WE NEED TO BE TAKING CARE OF OURSELVES AND PREPARING OURSELVES IN SITUATIONS. ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE HAD BEEN WARNINGS OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS. ME U TONU MAI ` COULD THIS ACTUALLY BE THE WARRIORS' YEAR? SCOTTY STEVENSON TALKS SOME SPORT NEXT. IS HE ON THE WAHS' BANDWAGON YET? OF COURSE HE IS. HERE'S WHAT'S MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING ` PRAYER SERVICES ARE BEING HELD ACROSS THE GLOBE AS CATHOLICS WORLDWIDE MOURN THE DEATH OF POPE FRANCIS. A PLANE HAS CAUGHT FIRE SHORTLY BEFORE TAKE OFF AT AN AIRPORT IN FLORIDA FORCING THE AIRCRAFT TO BE EVACUATED. AND IN SPORT, THE EELS HAVE TAKEN DOWN THE TIGERS IN THEIR EASTER MONDAY RUGBY LEAGUE CLASH, PREVAILING 38-22 IN SYDNEY. STAYING WITH SPORT, A BIG WEEKEND OF SPORT ` THE WARRIORS BOUNCE BACK IN THE NRL, SOME TROUBLED WATERS FOR THE AMERICA'S CUP AND SUPER RUGBY DELIVERS MORE DRAMA WHICH IS WHERE I BEGAN MY CHAT WITH SCOTTY ` SPECIFICALLY WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE HURRICANES AND THE BLUES. THE HURRICANE'S NEED TO GET A HURRY UP, THERE OUTSIDE THE SIX, AS ARE THE HIGHLANDERS, AS ARE THE BLUES. THEY ARE FIRST AND SECOND IN THE TABLE. THE FOUR AUSTRALIAN SIDES ARE ALL THERE IN THE PLAY-OFF MIX AT THE MOMENT. I THINK IT IS TOUGH. WE KNOW HOW TOUGH THIS COMPETITION IS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE AGAINST KIWI TEAMS EVERY WEEK, NOT EVERYONE IS GOING TO MAKE IT THROUGH. NO GOLDEN POINT AFTER GOLDEN POINT TIME SO THE POINTS WERE SPLIT THEIR THE BLUES HAD THEIR OPPORTUNITY, BUT THE CRUSADERS KNOW HOW TO CLOSE IT OUT. THEY DESERVE TO BE WHERE THEY ARE. THE CHEIFS FAR TOO GOOD FOR THE HIGHLANDERS. THE OTHER TEAMS, WORK TO BE DONE. THERE IS WORK TO BE DONE. CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE WARRIORS NOW? IT WAS A GAME, SCOTTY. GETTING THE LEAD AND THEN ALLOWING THE BRONCOS BACK INTO THE GAME. ONE OF THE MOST EXTRAORDINARY GOLDEN POINT SCENARIOS YOU WILL EVER SEE. REES WALSH PICKING LONG. REES WALSH KICKING LONG.. LINES AT ALL, CROWD GOES, AND SLOTS IT STRAIGHT THROUGH. A FANTASTIC WIN. PUT THE WARRIORS IN FOURTH POSITION, SO THEY ARE WELL AND TRULY IN THE MIX. A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T THINK THE WARRIORS WOULD BE HERE, BUT THAT WAS REALLY A SOLID WIN AFTER THE TOUGH WEEK OF THE WEEK BEFORE. WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THE WARRIORS IS THAT THEY SEEM TO BE STAYING IN THE FIGHT UNTIL THE END, WHEREAS WE HAVE KNOWN WARRIORS TEAMS FROM THE PAST, IT GETS TOO TOUGH AND THE TOUGH GET GOING. I WANT TO TALK VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT LUKE METCALFE, I'M NOT SURE IF I FORGIVEN HIM YET, FOR MISSING HIS KICKS, EXCEPT FOR THAT LAST ONE, TO WIN THE GAME, BUT TO DO THAT IS QUITE EXTRAORDINARY, TO SAY THAT LOOK, I'M GOING TO BE THE ONE THAT IS GOING TO STEP UP AND DO THIS EVEN THOUGH SO FAR I HAVEN'T BEEN PERFORMING PARTICULAR WELL IN TERMS OF KICKING. DOES NOT SPEAK TO THE METTLE THAT HE HAS? I AGREE, AND I THINK IS TWO WEEKS BEING A DAD AS WELL. WE KNOW THE CALIBRE OF PLAYERS WHO'VE BEEN IN THE WARRIORS JERSEY, WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT GOALKICKING IS IN A GAME OF RUGBY LEAGUE WHERE TWO POINTS IS OFTEN THE DIFFERENCE IN THE END. IT COULD BE A SEASON DEFINING MOMENT FOR HIM, , A BIT OF A CONFIDENT POSTER, SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, I AM GOING INTO THIS ROLE, I AM THE MAN FOR THE JOB AND I'M GOING TO KEEP GOING FROM HERE, I CERTAINLY HOPE HE WINS. , TALK ABOUT FOOTBALL, AUCKLAND FC, THEY HAVE GOT ONE HAND ON THAT PREMIER'S PLATE. THEY NEED ONE POINT, AND IT WILL BE THEIRS. WHAT A DEBUT SEASON THEY HAVE HAD, VERY DIFFERENT TO THE WELLINGTON PHOENIX'S. ONE TRULY OUT OF THE MIX. WE WILL HEAR THE FATE OF THE PHOENIX COACH WHO HAS BEEN OVER A REVIEW OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, BUT LET'S FOCUS ON THE BLACK KNIGHTS, AUCKLAND FC, YES, THEY NEED A DRAW, THIS WEEK AT HOME TO CLENCH THE PREMIERS PLATE. IT DOESN'T GIVE THEM THE TITLE, THEY HAVE STILL GOT TO GO THROUGH THE PLAY-OFFS, BUT THEY ARE IN THE MIX, AND THE FATE IS IN THEIR HANDS, AND WOULDN'T IT BE A WONDERFUL OCCASION AT MOUNT SMART STADIUM THIS WEEKEND IN FRONT OF THEIR FANS TO PUT THE FIRST PIECE OF SILVERWARE INTO THE CUPBOARD. AMERICA'S CUP, WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE? HAS THIS TAKEN A BIT OF SHINE OF THE CUP? YOU CAN READ ABOUT THIS TODAY ON THE WEBSITE, I WROTE A COLUMN ABOUT THIS, I THINK IT IS CONCERNING, ON THE ONE HAND, A BILLIONAIRE BACKED TEAM HAS PULLED OUT, I AM OFF TO FIND MY WEALTH ELSEWHERE IN SPORTS LANDSCAPE, BUT TEAM NEW ZEALAND ARE THE DEFENDER. SIR BEN AINSLIE'S BIGGEST BACKER, SUE JIM RATCLIFFE, WHO IS ALSO CARVING UP MANCHESTER UNITED, AND HAS WITHDRAWN HIS SPONSORSHIP OF THE ALL NIGHT, HE HAS PULLED OUT, SO TEAM NEW ZEALAND ARE THE DEFENDERS, THEY'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE RULES WE STILL DON'T HAVE A VENUE. THIS IS JUST A HANDICAP, WE CAN DO THIS, WE NEED CERTAINTY WHERE THE EVENT WILL BE, WHAT THE RULES WILL BE. HAVE TO BE AWARE THAT IN THE AMERICA'S CUP, THE DEFENDER AND THE CHALLENGER OF RECORD CERTAINLY HAVE AN ADVANTAGE OVER EVERYBODY ELSE ENTERING, SO I AM SURE THEY WILL BE KEEN TO LAY DOWN A VENUE AND TO GET THIS ROLLING AGAIN, BECAUSE YOU HAVE GOT JIM RATCLIFFE WHO WAS PULLED OUT, RED BULL HAVE PULLED OUT, AND YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT AFTER THEY CLAIMED THE SUCCESS IN BARCELONA, THAT THIS WOULD BE ATTRACTING ENTRIES. I THINK THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS, AND THERE SHOULD BE. SCOTTY SEVERSON, IT IS A PLEASURE, AS ALWAYS, GOOD TO SEE YOU. IT IS TUESDAY, ALL DAY, SEE YOU. HE IS A GOOD MAN. HE MISSED THE CRUSADERS, I FEEL LIKE YOU COULD HAVE DWELLED ON THAT VICTORY AGAINST THE BLUES JUST A LITTLE LONGER. THAT IS PROBABLY ENOUGH. AS A CRUSADERS FAN, IT WAS A WEIRD EXPERIENCE WILLING JAMES O'CONNOR TO SLOT THE GOAL IN IN CHRISTCHURCH. I'M INTO IT, THIS IS GOOD, I LOVE HIM, WELCOME TO CANTERBURY, BUT IF YOU HAD SAID TO ME TONY YEARS AGO THAT I WOULD BE WILLING JAMES O'CONNOR TO SLOT A WINNING PENALTY IN CHRISTCHURCH, I WOULD HAVE SAID NO. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, HE IS AN AUSTRALIAN. WHO IS THE MAORI BOY WHO WENT ACROSS TO PLAY FOR THE WALLABIES? THERE HAS BEEN A COUPLE. WAIT, QUADE COOPER. IS GOING TO PLAY FLAG FOOTBALL NOW. HE'S GOING TO PLAY FLAG FOOTBALL AND THE OLYMPICS. HOW OLD IS HE? IN HIS 30S. E WHAI AKE NEI ` THE PRIMARY STUDENTS WHO'VE TAKEN OVER THEIR E WHAI AKE NEI ` THE PRIMARY STUDENTS WHO'VE TAKEN OVER THEIR SCHOOL'S PRINCIPAL RECRUITMENT, AND HOW BEING LIKE THE HULK MIGHT HELP YOUR CHANCES. VOICEOVER: Get your free Consumers's Guide to Hearing Aids. New Zealand's only independent guide to all the latest models. Choose the right hearing aid for your lifestyle and budget. Call 0800 45 45 42 for your free copy. (POP MUSIC PLAYS) AUCKLAND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS ARE DEFENDING THE DECISION TO ISSUE THREE MOBILE ALERTS OVER THE WEEKEND. BUT NONE ON THE NIGHT A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM LASHED THE CITY. EARLIER WE SPOKE TO AUCKLAND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GENERAL MANAGER ADAM MAGGS WHO EXPLAINED WHY. AND EMERGENCY MOBILE ALERT IS WHAT ONE WAY WE CAN ALERT THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS USING USING MEDIA. WE DO THAT FOR LOWER-LEVEL THINGS, BUT THE PROBLEM WE HAD ON FRIDAY NIGHT WAS THAT THE THUNDERSTORM CELL TRACKED AND HIT CENTURY AND MOUNT RASCAL AND A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. *MOUNT ROSKILL A WARNING IS TO TAKE ACTION NOW. SO ON FRIDAY NIGHT, WE ONLY HAD A WATCH IN PLACE. AND BYRON EMERGENCY NEW ZEALAND STARTED RESPONDING IMMEDIATELY, OUR COUNCIL TEAMS AND RESPOND CENTRES ALL STARTED TAKING ACTION. WE SET UP A CIVIL DEFENCE CENTRE IN THREE KINGS WILL BE HOUSED TO 10 FAMILIES, AS WE SUDDENLY STARTED RESPONDING BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE A LEVEL OF THREAT THAT DEEMED AN EMAM OR AN EMERGENCY MOBILE ALERTS, NECESSARY. THERE WERE 223 EMERGENCY CALLOUTS. INCLUDING FLOOD DAMAGE, IN HINDSIGHT, DO YOU THINK AN ALERT SHOULD HAVE GONE OUT? THE CHALLENGING QUESTION BECAUSE IT IS A NATIONAL PROTOCOL AND IT HAS SOME VERY HIGH THRESHOLDS. THREE OF THOSE THRESHOLDS ARE SEVERITY, LIKELINESS AND URGENCY, BUT WE ALSO OVERLAY LOCAL CONTEXT, SUCH AS THE TIME OF NIGHT, WERE PEOPLE IN SHELTER, SAFE?� FOR US, IT WAS LATE AT NIGHT, AND IN HINDSIGHT, WE WOULD BE FACTORING IN THOSE THINGS. THE IMPACT HAD ALREADY HAPPENED AND WE WERE ALREADY RESPONDING ANYWAY AND IT ARGUABLY MIGHT HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONFLICT. ON SATURDAY, WE HAD DIFFERENT SCENARIO WILL BE ISSUED WITH A A WEATHER WARNING, AND WE KNEW THAT WE HADN'T ACTED COMMUNITIES FROM EARLY AS TODAY MORNING WHO WAS STILL VULNERABLE, WE HAD SATURATED SOILS FOR THE RISK OF SURFACE FLOODING. WE HAD NO HESITATION IN USING THAT. SO IN TERMS OF THE WEEKEND THEN, BECAUSE THREE WENT OUT OVER THE WEEKEND, WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE THREE ALERTS AND NOTHING GOING OUT ON A FRIDAY? WITH AS FLOODING, THUNDERSTORMS, WHAT CHANGED IN THAT TIME WHEREBY THREE OF THOSE ALERTS WENT OUT. ON A FRIDAY NIGHT, IT WAS AT WHAT LEVEL WHICH IS CAUTIONARY AND BE PREPARED, AND AGAIN, THE THUNDERSTORM, ON SATURDAY, MET SERVERS WERE WATCHING THE TAIL OF EXTRA BECAUSE CYCLONE TAM QUITE CAREFULLY AND IT WAS VERY UNPREDICTABLE, THEY HAD LET HIM ANALYSE AND WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT WAS COMING TOWARD AUCKLAND THEY HAD MORE CONFIDENCE. HENCE A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING, SO AS SOON AS WE KNEW THIS WAS HAPPENING, WHICH WAS ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, DECIDED THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE ON THE ROAD, VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES, AND WE HAVE SATURATED SOILS, WE NEED TO SEND OUT AN EMERGENCY MOBILE ALERT. ST MARY'S PRIMARY SCHOOL IN HOKITIKA HAS BEEN SEARCHING FOR A NEW PRINCIPAL SINCE LAST YEAR, AND WITH NO LUCK SO FAR, STUDENTS HAVE TAKEN THE JOB HUNT INTO THEIR OWN HANDS. ARMED WITH POSTERS AND BIG IMAGINATIONS, THEY'VE LAUNCHED A FULL-ON 'PRINCIPAL WANTED' MISSION. TAKE A LOOK. WELCOME TO SAINT MARY'S SCHOOL. WE NEED A NEW PRINCIPAL. COULD IT BE YOU? I WANT MY PRINCIPAL TO BE SPORTY, KIND, FUNNY, AND FOLLOW THE SCHOOL RULES. PRINCIPAL HAS HAIR AND HAS CLIPS ON THE TOP. AND THEN HAS` AND THEN HAS COLOURS ON HIS DRESS AND THE ARMS. SO GOOD. FOR MORE, WE'RE JOINED BY CHRISTINA SCOTT, THE SCHOOL BOARD CHAIR, AND TAUIRA, STUDENTS JESSICA SCOTT JOSEPH, DARCI, AND ARYA O'MALLEY. JUST TELL US, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS TRYING TO DO HERE AND WHY DON'T YOU HAVE A PRINCIPAL? THEN THE WEST COAST, SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK WE ARE A BIT FERAL, BUT WE ARE NOT. WE'RE QUITE THE OPPOSITE HERE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS ABOUT THE KIDS. BEING A CATHOLIC SCHOOL NARROWS DOWN A LITTLE BIT TOO, BUT IT IS A REALLY AWESOME PLACE AND IT'S WHO THE KIDS FIND IS THE BEST FIT FOR THE JOB. HOW LONG HAVE YOU GUYS WHEN LOOKING FOR A PRINCIPAL NOW? WE STARTED BETWEEN THE HOLIDAYS OF TERM THREE EDITOR FOR LAST YEAR, SO TO TERMS NOW. WE HAVE AN ACTING PRINCIPAL WHO IS HERE UNTIL THE END OF JUNE. I CAN SEE THE KIDS ARE HOLDING UP THEIR FANTASTIC POSTERS. I MIGHT ASK, CHRISTINA, THE KIDS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES ONE BY ONE AND HOLD UP THE POSTERS TO THE CAMERA, IS A WHO WOULD BE GOOD TO START WITH? I'M JESSICA AND THIS IS MY POSTER. I'M JASON AND THIS IS MY POSTER. HI, I'M NOVA AND THIS IS MY POSTER. CAN I ASK YOU GUYS, I DON'T KNOW WHO IS BEST FOR THIS ONE, WHAT DO YOU GUYS LOVE ABOUT YOUR SCHOOL? WHAT IS YOUR FAVOURITE THING ABOUT YOUR SCHOOL? TEACHERS AND MY MATES. YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A GREAT POLITICIAN ONE DAY I RECKON. WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF YOU GUYS? WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF YOU GUYS? (CHILDREN CHATTER SOFTLY) I THINK IT'S THE THE FACT THAT IT IS HOKITIKA, WHICH IS NOT FERAL *NOT HOKITIKA PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE PICTURES REALLY CAREFULLY AND MAYBE EVEN RECOGNISING THEMSELVES, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING WITH US AND ALL OF THE STUDENTS AT ST MARY'S. IT IS A GREAT LITTLE PROJECT THAT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE WE SHARE THAT VIDEO ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE THAT YOU CAN HELP THEM FIND THE NEXT SCHOOL PRINCIPAL. STILL TO COME ON THE SHOW THIS MORNING ` THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS LOST ITS LEADER WITH THE DEATH OF POPE FRANCIS. (CLEARS THROAT) THE BISHOP OF AUCKLAND WILL JOIN US TO REFLECT ON THE POPE'S LEGACY. ALSO AHEAD ` EVER WANTED TO JOIN A CHOIR BUT DON'T HAVE THE PIPES? THE GROWING POPULARITY OF SINGING GROUPS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE ALL THE KEYS BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE RIGHT ONES. CHRIS AND I TOOK A BIT OF A HAMMERING ON THAT ONE! PLUS, HANG IN THERE PARENTS ` ONE MORE WEEK OF SCHOOL HOLIDAYS TO GO. WE'LL GET SOME SCIENCE BASED SUGGESTIONS TO KEEP THE KIDS BUSY. DON'T WE KNOW IT? THAT'S IF THEY CAN FOCUS FOR MORE THAN 60 SECONDS. RIGHT NOW, IT'S 8 O'CLOCK. HERE'S JACK WITH YOUR NEWS. PRAYER SERVICES ARE BEING HELD ACROSS THE GLOBE AS CATHOLICS WORLDWIDE MOURN THE DEATH OF POPE FRANCIS. HUNDREDS OF CATHOLICS GATHERED IN PARIS AT THE NOTRE DAME CATHEDRAL, WHERE TOURS AND VISITS HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED; IN BRAZIL, HOME TO THE WORLD'S LARGEST CATHOLIC POPULATION, THERE WILL BE SEVEN DAYS OF MOURNING; AND IN LONDON AT WESTMINSTER CATHEDRAL, THOSE ATTENDING MASS REFLECTED ON THE POPE'S FINAL PUBLIC WORDS, WHERE HE WISHED HIS FOLLOWERS A HAPPY EASTER... POPE FRANCIS REJECTED MUCH OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH'S TRADITIONAL LAVISH CEREMONY AND PLANS FOR HIS FUNERAL REFLECT HIS MORE HUMBLE NATURE. THE POPE'S BODY IS NOW LAID IN A SIMPLE WOODEN COFFIN IN A CHAPEL AT HIS SAINT MARTHA RESIDENCE. FRANCIS CHOOSING TO LIVE IN THE QUARTERS, WHICH ARE MUCH MORE BASIC THAN THE TRADITIONAL APOSTOLIC PALACE. THE POPE'S FUNERAL IS TRADITIONALLY HELD WITHIN FOUR TO SIX DAYS, WITH THE MASS HELD IN ST PETER'S SQUARE. HIS DEATH HAS SET IN MOTION THE POLITICAL PROCESS TO REPLACE HIM CALLED THE CONCLAVE. THE VOTE IS HELD SOME 15 TO 20 DAYS AFTER THE POPE'S DEATH IN THE SISTINE CHAPEL. AUCKLAND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS DEFENDING ITS APPROACH TO ISSUING EMERGENCY MOBILE ALERTS OVER THE WEEKEND, SAYING THERE ARE MANY FACTORS THAT HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED. NO ALERT WAS SENT ON FRIDAY NIGHT WHEN THUNDERSTORMS PROMPTED MORE THAN 200 EMERGENCY CALLS, BUT PHONES WERE PINGED SEVERAL TIMES ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. THE ORGANISATION'S GENERAL MANAGER SAYS PROTOCOL WAS FOLLOWED, AND WHILE AN ALERT ON FRIDAY NIGHT WOULDN'T HAVE HAD MUCH IMPACT, THE SITUATION HAD CHANGED ON SATURDAY. IT WAS DURING THE DAY, WE HAD PEOPLE ON THE ROAD AND WE KNEW WE HAD AN IMPACT OF COMMUNITY FROM EARLY YESTERDAY MORNING WHO ARE STILL VULNERABLE. WE HAD NO HESITATION IN LETTING THAT TOOL ALERT THE POBLIC. HE SAYS EMERGENCY ALERTS HAVE A HIGH THRESHOLD AND AN ALERT ON FRIDAY NIGHT WOULDN'T HAVE HAD MUCH IMPACT. BLACK FERNS LEGEND PORTIA WOODMAN WICKLIFFE HAS ANNOUNCED SHE'S COMING OUT OF INTERNATIONAL RETIREMENT AS SHE EYES A THIRD RUGBY WORLD CUP CAMPAIGN. THE 33-YEAR-OLD HAS SIGNED AN EIGHT-MONTH CONTRACT WITH NEW ZEALAND RUGBY FRESH FROM HER TITLE-WINNING AUPIKI CAMPAIGN WITH THE BLUES IN A MASSIVE BOOST FOR THE BLACK FERNS' WORLD CUP TITLE DEFENCE IN AUGUST. WOODMAN-WICKLIFFE HAD RETIRED FROM INTERNATIONAL RUGBY AFTER WINNING GOLD AT THE PARIS OLYMPICS LAST YEAR, BUT HAD A CHANGE OF HEART MIDWAY THROUGH THE AUPIKI SEASON. SHE'S SET TO JOIN THE BLACK FERNS IN THEIR FIRST ASSEMBLY THIS WEEKEND. WHY WOULDN'T YOU? SHE IS STILL IN GREAT FORM. AND SHE DIDN'T GET TO GO TO THE WNRL... ANYONE ELSE STILL HAS THE HUNGER BACK THERE... AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. PARTLY CLOUDY DAY FOR MOST OF THE NORTH ISLAND HERE. SOME SCATTERED SHOWERS ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLATEAU AND EAST COAST, CLEARING FROM THE LATE AFTERNOON. A HIGH OF 23 IN TAURANGA. 21 IN TAMAKI MAKAURAU AUCKLAND. TO THE SOUTH ISLAND ` A FINE DAY IN CANTERBURY AND THE WEST COAST. ELSEWHERE, BIT MORE GREY WITH POTENTIAL RAIN IN THE LATE AFTERNOON IN OTAGO AND FIORDLAND. 19 THE HIGH FOR THOSE IN GREYMOUTH. 18 IN TAHUNA QUEENSTOWN. TRIBUTES ARE POURING IN FROM AROUND THE WORLD AS CATHOLICS AND PEOPLE OF ALL FAITHS MOURN THE DEATH OF POPE FRANCIS. THE PONTIFF, WHO LED THE CATHOLIC CHURCH FOR MORE THAN A DECADE, HAS BEEN REMEMBERED FOR HIS HUMILITY, COMPASSION, AND HIS LEGACY OF REFORM. KATE NICOL WILLIAMS JOINS US NOW OUTSIDE PARLIAMENT. MORENA, KATE. MORENA, JENNY MAY. FLAGYL BE LOWERED TO HALF MAST AT PUBLIC BUILDINGS LIKE THE BEEHIVE TODAY IS A SIGN OF NATIONAL MOURNING FOR THE DEATH OF POPE FRANCIS. IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET, BUT WE ARE KEEPING A CLOSE EYE ON IT. THIS WILL BE RELEVANT ON WEDNESDAY ALSO, WITH THE FUNERAL. WE NEED TO REMEMBER OUR PRIME MINISTER IS IN THE UNITED KINGDOM AT THE MOMENT FOLLOWING. POPE FRANCIS'S DEATH, HIS IS THE POPE WILL BE REMEMBERED FOR HIS UNWAVERING COMMITMENT TO THE VULNERABLE, TO SOCIAL JUSTICE AND INTERFAITH DIALOGUE. WE ALSO HAVE HEARD FROM LABOUR LEADER CHRIS APPLICANTS, THE OPPOSITION PARTY LEADER, THAT HE HAS PAID TRIBUTE TO THE POPE'S INCLUSION AND DIGNITY. LUCY BENDELL IS OUTSIDE IN AUCKLAND. KIA ORA, LUCY. I'M OUTSIDE THE CATHEDRAL THIS MORNING, SHOWERS ARE COMING DOWN BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE INSIDE. THERE ARE PHOTOS OF HIM INSIDE. THE CATHOLIC DIO SAID THEY ARE GIVING THANKS FOR THE LIFE AND MISSION OF POPE FRANCIS, CALLING HIM A BUILDER MOM HOPE AND MAY HE REST IN PEACE. TODAY HERE AT 12.15, THERE WILL BE A MASS HELD INSIDE` WITHIN THE CHURCH. WE'RE JOINED NOW BY STEPHEN LOWE, BISHOP OF AUCKLAND. MORENA, JENNY MAY. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. HOW DID THE NEWS IMPACT YOU? REAL SADNESS AND ALSO HAPPY RELEASE ` HIS HEALTH HAS NOT BEEN WELL AND LIKE ANYONE ELDERLY IN THE FAMILY, WE DON'T LIKE TO SEE THEM SUFFER, SO HE WOULD ALWAYS WORK TIRELESSLY FOR THE LORD AND OUR HOPE IS HE SEES IN FACE-TO-FACE. WE TALKED ABOUT HIS LEADERSHIP AND HOW HIS LEADERSHIP AFFECTED THE CHURCH HERE IN NZ. HIS LEADERSHIP IS VERY MUCH GROUND ROOTS. HE ASKED THE CROWD AT THE BALCONY IS TO PRAY FOR HIM, AND THAT HAS BEEN CONSTANT. HE IS VERY HUMBLE. HE HAS NOT LOST TOUCH WITH PEOPLE. HE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBOURHOODS, HE KNEW PEOPLE STRUGGLED. AND OF COURSE, THE POPE DID NOT VISIT HERE BUT HE DID HAVE A SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH A ALLOWABLE *GLOBAL COMMUNITY? I THOUGHT HE MIGHT COME AS FAR AS US BUT HIS HEALTH EVEN THEN WAS DETERIORATING SO MUCH. SO WHAT WAS HIS CONNECTION THEN, WITH THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY? I THINK HELEN CLARK SUMMED IT UP BEST ` SHE SAID THAT THE PERSON SHE LISTENED TO THE MOST WAS THE POPE. I THINK THAT LEADERSHIP ON INTERNATIONAL THE WHOLE STAGE. REALLY TALKED ABOUT WHAT WAS NEEDED FOR THE NEXT POINT BEFORE THE NEXT POPE TO BE ABLE TO FACE THE CHALLENGES OF THE CHURCH. IN TERMS OF HIS LEGACY THEN, WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT WILL BE? I THINK HISTORY WILL JUDGE HIM ONE OF THE GREAT PIPES THAT WE HAVE HAD A FEW OF THOSE IN RECENT TIMES AND THEY HAVE ALL BEEN PUBS OF OUR TIME. *POPES IN TERMS OF A CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMANDMENT IS TO LOVE GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND I THINK FRANCE IS EMBODIED THOSE, BUT IS HE EMBODIED THE LOVE H WE ARE ALL BROTHERS AND SISTERS. IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT, PARTICULARLY WITH THE ISSUES, SO MANY ISSUES WE ARE FACING TODAY. I KNOW IT IS EARLY FOR THIS CONVERSATION BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS OF ELECTING A NEW POPE. AND WE HAVE SEVERAL FROM OCEANIA, AND WHETHER THERE WAS AN ASIAN REPRESENTATIVE. THERE ARE FOUR CARDINALS, AS YOU'LL SEE. WE ARE REPRESENTING THE PACIFIC BISHOPS, A KIWI BISHOP, THE NEWLY ELECTED CARDINAL MYCOLA BISHOCK OF AUSTRALIA, HE IS THE UKRAINIAN CATHOLIC BISHOP IN AUSTRALIA, CARDINAL JOHN REBUS. JUST FINALLY, HOW WILL YOU REMEMBER THE POPE? I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF MEETING HIM A FEW TIMES AND HE WAS JUST SO DOWN TO EARTH AND THERE WAS ALWAYS A BIG SMILE. I WENT TO ONE MASS LAST YEAR AND HE WAS TIRED, FRAIL, I JUST WENT UP AND SAID, HOLY FATHER I AM THE BISHOP OF AUCKLAND IN NEW ZEALAND, AND HE GAVE ME A BIG GRIN AND A THUMBS UP, AND THAT WAS HIM REALLY. IT WAS A MAN OF GOD AND HE LOVES GOD'S PEOPLE. WHAT A MOMENT TO HOLD ON TO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S TIME FOR OUR REGULAR DIVE INTO THE TVNZ ARCHIVE WHERE WE REVISIT A SLICE OF HISTORY. AND TODAY, OF COURSE, WE'RE RETURNING TO 2013 WHEN POPE FRANCIS WAS ELECTED TO THE PAPACY. THIS STORY FROM THE NIGHTLY NEWS WHILE THE WORLD WAS STILL WAITING TO FIND OUT WHO THE NEXT POPE WOULD BE. (ALL CLAMOUR) HOPE ROSE WITH THE SMOKE... BUT BLACK, SIGNALLING NO SNAP ELECTION FOR POPE. (CHORUS SINGS) TWO BY TWO, THEY'D FILED INTO THE SISTINE CHAPEL, BEGINNING A RITUAL 750 YEARS IN THE MAKING. AT THE VATICAN, THEY MEASURE TIME IN CENTURIES. THE ART OF MICHELANGELO HAS LASTED FIVE. CHANGES ARRIVE HERE SLOWER THAN THE PROCESSION OF MOSTLY ELDERLY MEN. IT MAY BE DAYS BEFORE WHITE SMOKE ANNOUNCES A NEW POPE, AND MUCH LONGER BEFORE DEMONSTRATORS LETTING OFF PINK SMOKE GET THEIR WISH ` A BIGGER ROLE FOR WOMEN IN THE CHURCH. JESUS ENCOURAGED WOMEN AND ACTIVELY SOUGHT TO INCLUDE THEM. SO WHY DO THE CARDINALS, WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT JESUS, MAKE A POINT OF ACTIVELY EXCLUDING WOMEN? (INDISTINCT SHOUTS) THERE WAS MORE PINK SMOKE AND MUCH LESS TOLERANCE TOWARDS MEMBERS OF ANOTHER GROUP, FEMEN, AS THEY STAGED ONE OF THEIR FAMOUS HALF-NAKED PROTESTS IN SUPPORT OF SAME SEX MARRIAGES. CUT OFF FROM THAT SCENE BY A VOW OF ISOLATION, THEY BREAK ON PAIN OF EXCOMMUNICATION. THE CARDINALS ARE WRESTLING WITH THEIR CONSCIENCES THE CARDINALS ARE WRESTLING WITH THEIR CONSCIENCES AND THEIR MENTAL LIST OF CANDIDATES. (SPEAKS IN ITALIAN) THE BRAZILIAN CARDINAL ODILO SCHERER IS NEW WORLD ENOUGH TO SEEM EXOTIC AND CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE VATICAN BUREAUCRACY TO BE AN INSIDER TO SOME. IF OTHERS THINK HE'S TOO CLOSE TO THE PROBLEMS THAT BLIGHTED THE LAST POPE, CANADIAN MARK WOOLLEY MAY YET LIVE UP TO THAT TALK THAT'S MADE HIM A STRONG CONTENDER. FOR MANY, THERE'S JUST BEEN A SENSE OF RELIEF THAT THE JURY IS NOW OUT AND SENDING FORTH ITS FIRST SMOKE SIGNALS. WELL, THIS IS THE MOMENT THEY'VE WAITED FOR. THE TENS OF THOUSANDS GATHERED HERE IN THE SQUARE, IN THE COLD. AND RIGHT NOW, BLACK OR WHITE, IT PROBABLY DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COLOUR THAT SMOKE IS ` IT'S BEING HERE AND SEEING HISTORY TAKE PLACE BEFORE THEIR VERY OWN EYES THAT COUNTS. ONE BRITISH CARDINAL, TOO OLD TO VOTE, PREDICTS WHITE SMOKE BY FRIDAY. WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THE HOSPITAL, THERE'LL BE LITTLE CARDINALS AND GROUPS TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBERS OF VOTES THAT PEOPLE HAVE GOT AND WHERE ARE WE GOING FROM HERE? ONLY THOSE ON THE INSIDE CAN KNOW JUST HOW LIKELY THAT WILL BE, AFTER SLEEPING ON THE RESULT OF THAT CRUCIAL FIRST BALLOT. ME U TONU MAI ` THERE'S STILL A WEEK OF SCHOOL HOLIDAYS TO FILL. WE'LL GIVE YOU A FEW SUGGESTIONS WITH A SPECIAL EDITION OF THE COMMUNITY NOTICEBOARD. VOICEOVER: Get your free Consumers's Guide to Hearing Aids. New Zealand's only independent guide to all the latest models. Choose the right hearing aid for your lifestyle and budget. Call 0800 45 45 42 for your free copy. (ELECTRONIC MUSIC) WELCOME TO BREAKFAST. HERE'S WHAT'S MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING ` PRAYER SERVICES ARE BEING HELD ACROSS THE GLOBE AS CATHOLICS GATHER TO MOURN THE DEATH OF POPE FRANCIS. THE WHITE HOUSE HAS BACKED ITS DEFENCE SECRETARY AFTER REPORTS HE'D SHARED DETAILS OF AN ATTACK ON HOUTHI REBELS IN YEMEN IN A SECOND GROUP CHAT THAT INCLUDED HIS WIFE AND BROTHER. PORTIA WOODMAN-WICKLIFFE HAS ANNOUNCED SHE'S COMING OUT OF INTERNATIONAL RETIREMENT, WITH HER SIGHTS SET ON A THIRD WORLD CUP. PUTS THE TAME FAMILY CHAT TO SHAME. # ROLLNG # (IN THE NEIGHBOURHOOD) IT'S TIME FOR AN EARLY-WEEK EDITION OF OUR COMMUNITY NOTICEBOARD, WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BE SHOWCASING THE EVENTS HAPPENING AROUND THE COUNTRY THESE HOLIDAYS FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY TO ENJOY. FIRST UP ` EVER WANTED TO DO SOME SORCERY OR MAYBE CHANNEL YOUR INNER SPY? WELL, 'ESCAPE ROOM WELLINGTON' HAS ALL THAT AND MORE THESE HOLIDAYS. FOR MORE WE'RE JOINED BY STEVEN NICOLL. FULLY SAT, THERE WILL BE PEOPLE WHO SAY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT NSA PRIMERS, CAN YOU GIVE US A BRIEF UNDERSTANDING OF IT FIRST? IT IS A PUZZLE GAME. 2-8 PEOPLE WILL GO IN A ROOM AND TRY TO SOLVE THE MISSION. THEY HAD TO PUZZLE THEIR WAY THROUGH THE GAME. WE WATCH THE GAME ON CCTV AND GIVE CLUES IF THEY GET STUCK. THE EDGE TAKES ABOUT AN HOUR AND MOST GAMES LAST 60 MINUTES. MOST! AND I HAVE BEEN THERE LONGER THAN AN HOUR! HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE PLAYING THIS GAME IN THESE ROOMS? IN OUR BIGGEST GAME, WE CAN TAKE UP TO 8 PEOPLE, AND OUR SPECIAL DEAL, FOR THE SCHOOL HOLIDAYS IS $130 MAXIMUM PER GAME, SO IT IS THE COST FOR A FAMILY, AND YOU CAN GET BIGGER GROUPS IN. AND WE FIND IT IS QUITE POPULAR. CHILDREN'S FRIENDS AND SUFFERS WHILE CAN COME ALONG, FOR EXAMPLE, AND IT MAKES IT QUITE ECONOMIC. IT IS A GOOD WAY TO KEEP THE KIDS OCCUPIED FOR AT LEAST AN HOUR. STEVE NICHOL, THANKS SO MUCH. THANK YOU. OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES WORK ENDLESSLY EVERYDAY FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES. FOR THE BUNNYTHORPE VOLUNTEER FIRE BRIGADE, THEY'RE CELEBRATING THEIR 60TH ANNIVERSARY. KIA ORA KORUA. THANKS FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. THAT HAS BEEN IN THE MAKES AND IS 2020, BUT WHY IS THIS TIME SO SPECIAL? THIS IS OUR 60TH ANNIVERSARY. ONE MEMBER HAS BEEN A MEMBER FOR THE 55 YEARS. WE HAVE MANY PEOPLE PAST AND PRESENT. WHAT EFFORTS FROM THE MEMBER COLIN THERE. WHAT PEOPLE EXPECT? LIVE PRESENTATIONS, THE LADDER TRUCK FROM TOWN COMING UP. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A BIT OF FUN. AND YOU HAVE A RAFFLE TO MARK THE ANNIVERSARY? YES, YOU CAN GO IN THE DRAW TO WIN A RIDE TO WIN A RIDE TO SCHOOL IN A FIRETRUCK. SOUND FANTASTIC, WHY IS IT SOLD WHAT IT IS THAT PEOPLE GET TO THE END APPRECIATE WHAT OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES, IS VISUALLY THOSE IN THE RURAL PARTS OF NEW ZEALAND, ACTUALLY DO? ANY VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS ARE PART OF THE COMMUNITY. IT WILL NOT POSIT ANYTHING AT ALL, IT IS A FREE DAY. WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO MAKE ANY MONEY ON IT. ALL THE BEST. 'RUN AWAY WITH THE CIRCUS,' THEY SAY, BUT THIS TIME YOU MIGHT ` FROM EXTREME STUNTS TO BEAUTIFUL AERIALIST, COMEDIC CLOWNS, AND A HUMAN CANON, YOU MIGHT JUST BE SHOOTING OUT TO VISIT THE WEBER BROTHERS CIRCUS. THEY'RE HERE TOURING AOTEAROA. SO TO TELL US MORE IS PERFORMANCE DIRECTOR MORENA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US. A SEVEN GENERATION SHOW, TELL US ABOUT THAT LEGACY. OUR FAMILY HAS BEEN TOURING IN CIRCUSES SINCE THE MEDIAEVAL TIMES. IT IS JUST SO EXCITING THAT WE GET TO KEEP ON DOING THIS TRADITION AND GETTING TO PERFORM IT FOR EVERYONE. WHAT CAN PEOPLE EXPECT WHEN THEY WALK IN THE BIG TOP? YOU CAN EXPECT SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS ` SHOOTING OUT CANNONS, MOTORBIKES, BMX BIKES, AREALISTS, CLOWNS ` ALL AGES WILL BE ENTERTAINED. UNDER YOUR DOING ORIGINAL TOUR SO CAN YOU TELL US WHERE YOU ARE HEADING TO? YES, SO WE ARE HERE IN MOUNT WELLINGTON UNTIL 4 MAY, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO THAMES, ROTORUA AND MAKE NO WAY DOWN TO THE SOUTH ISLAND AND WE ARE VERY EXCITED. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT MOST OF THE PERFORMERS ARE FROM CIRCUS FAMILIES, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GREW UP WITH AS WELL? YES, WE ARE SEVENTH GENERATION. WE HAVE PERFORMERS FROM CIRCUS SCHOOLS AS WELL AS CIRCUS FAMILIES/ WHERE CAN PEOPLE GET TICKETS? YOU CAN GET TICKETS ON ITICKET, LOVE IT. I KNOW AS THE FINAL ACT, YOU HAVE SOMETHING PLANNED BY US? YES, WE HAVE A BIG SURPRISE TODAY, HE IS GOING TO GO INSIDE THE HUMAN CANNONBALL. HE IS GOING TO SET HIMSELF UP... GOOD TO GO LEWIS, ARE YOU READY? HELP ME WITH THE COUNTDOWN. 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0! (EXCLAIMS) I WAS GOING TO SAY, WHERE DID HE GO? IS HE OK? HE IS GOOD. (LAUGHTER) BRILLIANT. JUST A LITTLE PAUSE IN HER ANSWER THERE. I WAS IMAGINING FILLING OUT THE FORM TO MY BOSS FOR ACC. THERE HE IS, HE IS STANDING. I WOULDN'T MIND SEEING IT AGAIN, LOOKS LIKE A GREAT OCCASION. WHAT'S HAPPENING NEAR YOU NEXT WEEKEND? LET US KNOW. MARKETS, EVENTS, FESTIVALS ` HEAD TO whatsonbreakfast.co.nz. A MURI I NGA WHAKATAIRANGA ` YOUR 8.30 NEWS, SPORT AND WEATHER. PLUS ` EVER WANTED TO JOIN A CHOIR BUT WERE BETTER SUITED TO CARRYING THE BAGS THAN CARRYING A TUNE? WHY YOUR SINGING CAREER MAY NOT BE OVER JUST YET. (SMOOTH MUSIC) OVERNIGHT MOURNERS IN ROME HAVE BEEN GATHERING AT THE VATICAN TO HONOUR POPE FRANCIS. HE DIED AFTER A STROKE AND SUBSEQUENT HEART FAILURE AGED 88. OUR EUROPE CORRESPONDENT, MEI HERON, IS THERE. WHAT'S THE MOOD NOW? IT IS WELL PAST 10 PM HERE AT NIGHT AT THE MOMENT, BUT THERE ARE STILL HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE VATICAN CITY GATHERING AT ST PETER'S CATHEDRAL, AND I THINK THE REASON THERE IS ONLY PEOPLE HERE IS BECAUSE YOU ARE REALLY STARTING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MANY PEOPLE POPE FRANCIS TOUCHED IN HIS LIFE. WE ARE SEEING PEOPLE FROM ALL ACROSS THE WORLD THAT WERE HERE FOR EASTER WEEKEND CELEBRATIONS, CELEBRATIONS THAT THE POPE SPOKE AT. THEIR IS A SENSE OF SHOCK AS WELL THAT A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ONLY SAW HIM AT LESS THAN 24-HOUR IS AGO. WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE HERE CRYING, MORNING, WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE WEARING THEIR ARGENTINIAN FOOTBALL SHIRTS ON A SELL RATING THE LIFE THAT THE POPE LIVED. WE ARE GETTING MORE DETAILS FROM THE VATICAN ABOUT THE DEATH. WE KNOW THAT HE DIED OF A STROKE AND SUBSEQUENT HEART FAILURE. THEY HAVE ALSO PUT OUT DETAILS OF POPE FRANCIS'S WISHES FOR HIS BURIAL, AND THIS IS WHAT HE SAID. HE SAID, ' THE TOMB SHOULD BE ON THE GROUND, SIMPLE, WITHOUT SECULAR ORNAMENTATION.' THANKS. AND BACK HERE, AUCKLAND'S SAINT PATRICK'S CATHEDRAL IS ALSO MARKING THE DEATH OF POPE FRANCIS. OUR REPORTER LUCY BENDELL IS THERE. LUCY, HOW ARE PEOPLE PLANNING TO MOURN THE PONTIFF? I AM INSIDE ST PATRICK AND ST JOSEPH'S CATHEDRAL HERE IN AUCKLAND, WHERE A CANDLE HAS BEEN LET FOR THE DEATH OF POPE FRANCIS. ACCOMPANIED BY A PHOBIC TOLD BY HIM, AND THERE ARE FURTHER PHOTOS OF HIM DEEP INSIDE THE CATHEDRAL AS WELL. THERE ARE BEEN A FEW PEOPLE TRICKLING THROUGH THIS MORNING, SOME PEOPLE PLACING THE HAND ON THE PHOTO OF THE POPE BEHIND . ME THERE WAS A MASTER'S MORNING AT 7 AM, AND THERE WILL BE ANOTHER ONE AT 1215 TODAY, HELD BY THE BISHOP OF AUCKLAND, STEVE. HE WAS ON BREAKFAST EARLY THIS MORNING AND DESCRIBE THE POPE HAS BEEN HUMBLED WITH GROUNDED ROOTS. HE SAID HE WILL BE BIDDING GOD'S REST TO FRANCIS AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE CATHOLIC UNITY HERE IN AUCKLAND. PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO SIGN THEIR NAME AND WRITE A MESSAGE IN THE ENTRANCE OF ST PATRICK CATHEDRAL, AND OF COURSE, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER MASS HERE HELD AFTER THE FUNERAL OF POPE FRANCIS. THANKS, LUCY BENDELL, LIVE FROM AUCKLAND'S ST PATRICK'S CATHEDRAL. FOUR PEOPLE DIED ON OUR ROADS THIS EASTER ROAD TOLL PERIOD. THE HOLIDAY ROAD TOLL OFFICIALLY ENDED AT 6am AND SITS BELOW LAST YEAR'S TOLL OF SEVEN. ON EASTER FRIDAY ONE PERSON DIED ON STATE HIGHWAY 12 IN NORTHLAND. THE FOLLOWING DAY, THERE WAS A FATAL CRASH BETWEEN A CAR AND A CYCLIST IN HAWKE'S BAY. THE TWO OTHER INCIDENTS HAPPENED ON EASTER MONDAY ON STATE HIGHWAY 3 IN TARANAKI AND IN WAIKATO'S MANGAKINO. PROTESTERS ATTEMPTING TO SHUT DOWN A COAL MINE ON THE WEST COAST HAVE NOW BEEN TRESPASSED BY THE MINING COMPANY. AROUND 70 ACTIVISTS HAVE SPENT THE PAST SIX DAYS CAMPING ON DENNISTON PLATEAU IN HOPES OF STOPPING BATHURST RESOURCES FROM EXTENDING ITS STOCKTON MINE. THE COMPANY WANTS TO EXTRACT 20 MILLION TONS OF COAL FROM THE PLATEAU OVER THE NEXT 25 YEARS, BUT CLIMATE ACTIVISTS ARE REFUSING TO LET IT HAPPEN. BATHURST SAID IN A STATEMENT IT WAS CONCERNED FOR THE TRESPASSERS' HEALTH AND SAFETY. NEW ZEALAND STRIKER CHRIS WOOD HAS DOUBLED NOTTINGHAM FOREST'S LEAD OVER TOTTENHAM THIS MORNING. THE REDS HANG ON TO A 2-0 ADVANTAGE IN THE SECOND HALF. ELLIOT ANDERSON OPENED THE SCORING INSIDE THE FIRST FIVE MINUTES BEFORE A CLASSIC HEADER FROM WOOD. WOOD IS GOING IN AGAIN. THIS TIME IT IS IN THE BACK OF THE NET, AND IT COUNTS. CHRIS WOOD GOT THE TOUCH. VICARIO WAS NOWHERE. SIXTH-PLACE FOREST CAN MOVE UP TO THIRD WITH A WIN AS THEY AIM TO QUALIFY FOR THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MORE THAN FOUR DECADES. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. PARTLY CLOUDY DAY FOR MOST OF THE NORTH ISLAND HERE. SOME SCATTERED SHOWERS ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLATEAU AND EAST COAST, CLEARING FROM THE LATE AFTERNOON. A HIGH OF 23 IN TAURANGA. 21 IN TAMAKI MAKAURAU AUCKLAND. TO THE SOUTH ISLAND ` A FINE DAY IN CANTERBURY AND THE WEST COAST. ELSEWHERE, BIT MORE GREY WITH POTENTIAL RAIN IN THE LATE AFTERNOON IN OTAGO AND FIORDLAND. 19 THE HIGH FOR THOSE IN GREYMOUTH. 18 IN TAHUNA QUEENSTOWN. MIXED FEELINGS FOR CHRIS CHANG THIS MORNING. HE HAS TAKEN A FEW DAYS OF HOLIDAY. CHRIS WOOD JUST SCORED AGAINST CHRIS'S TEAM, TOTTENHAM. IF A LACK OF ABILITY HAS EVER HELD YOU BACK FROM JOINING A CHOIR, THERE COULD STILL BE HOPE. A GROUP IN THE UK IS GROWING IN POPULARITY FOR ACTIVELY RECRUITING PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY CAN'T SING. FOR THIS CHOIR, IT IS NOT ABOUT HITTING THE HIGH NOTES. IT IS A GROUP WHERE HARMONY, TIMING, AND PITCH AREN'T IMPORTANT. # DON'T STOP ME NOW. I CAN HEAR MY OWN VOICE, BUT I DON'T CARE. IT IS THE FACT THAT IT SAYS TUNELESS CHOIR, AND THEREFORE, IF I AM TUNELESS, I CAN COME TO THIS CHOIR. FUN TO PARTICIPATE IN, I AM NOT TOTALLY CONVINCED BY LISTENING TO THEM. NOW, IF THAT DIDN'T CONVINCE YOU TO JOIN A CHOIR, TO DISCUSS JUST HOW EASY IT IS TO JOIN ONE ` REGARDLESS OF YOUR SINGING ABILITIES ` WE'RE JOINED BY AUCKLAND DEPUTY MAYOR DESLEY SIMPSON, WHO HAS A MUSICAL BACKGROUND OF HER OWN. THIS THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. TELL US ABOUT YOUR MUSICAL BACKGROUND. I HAVE DONE A FEW CHOIRS IN MY TIME, LOTS AND LOTS, IN FACT. I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRY AND JOIN A CHOIR. WHAT IS SO GOOD ABOUT ACQUIRE? IT DOES SO GOOD FOR YOU. EVERYBODY WALKS AROUND WITH A WONDERFUL MUSICAL INCIDENT, AND THAT IS THE VOICE. IT IS ABOUT GETTING TOGETHER, IF YOU GET INTO A CHOIR, IT IMPROVES YOUR CONFIDENCE, IMPROVE YOUR MEMORY, IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER, IT RELEASES ENDORPHINS WHEN YOU SING, IT MAKES YOU SING, AND IT IS JUST A GREAT THING TO DO. CHOIRS ARE ALL THROUGHOUT OUR SCHOOLS, OUR CHURCHES, OUR CULTURAL AND COMMUNITY CENTRES, IN AUCKLAND, IN FACT, ALL THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. ABSOLUTELY EVERYBODY CAN SING. HMM. WHEN YOU SAY EVERYONE WALKS AROUND WITH AN WONDERFUL MUSICAL INSTRUMENT, LET'S BE HONEST, DOES EVERYBODY REALLY WALK AROUND WITH A WONDERFUL MUSICAL INSTRUMENT? IT CAN BE WONDERFUL. WE HAVE SEEN IT WAY BACK TO THE SOUND OF MUSIC, WILL BE GOLDBERG IN SISTER ACT, AND IN TINA. SHE WAS A TEACHER, SHE WENT ON, SHE TAUGHT A GROUP OF KIDS HOW TO PERFORM AND HOW TO SING. IT CAN BE DONE. FIND THE RIGHT CHOIR, ABSOLUTELY HAVE A GO, AND WARM YOUR VOICE. A LOT OF IT IS PHYSICAL. YOU HAVE GOT VOCAL CORDS. YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO BE AN ALL-BLACK IF YOU FIRST GET PAST THE BALL AND YOU DROP IT, SO YOU HAVE GOT TO EXERCISE YOUR VOCAL CORDS, YOUR GOT TO STRETCH, AND YOU GOT TO DO SOME PHYSICAL THINGS FOR BREATHING. THE BREATHING EXERCISES IN SINGING ARE FANTASTIC, IT HELPS YOUR CARDIOVASCULAR HEALTH, BREATHING RIGHT FROM YOUR DIAPHRAGM. IT IS ABOUT PRACTICE AND TRAINING. I LOVE THAT CHOIR IN THE UK, IT IS FANTASTIC, BECAUSE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN A CHOIR, YES IT IS ABOUT THE MUSIC, BUT IT IS ABOUT TOGETHERNESS AND SOCIAL CONNECTEDNESS, HAVING FUN, AND BEING PART OF A TEAM. CERTAINLY FOR THE PARTICIPANTS, IT IS, AND THIS IS WHAT I'M WONDERING ABOUT. IT IS A LOT OF FUN TO PARTICIPATE AND SING IN A COLLECTOR'S ENVIRONMENT. IT IS SUCH A SIMPLE HUMAN JOY. WHEN IT COMES TO PERFORMING PUBLIC, I WONDER IF THERE IS ANOTHER DIMENSION, AND IF MAYBE THE FUN FOR THAT CHOIR IS CONFINED TO THOSE PARTICIPATING, RATHER THAN THOSE LISTENING TO IT. USUALLY SING FOR YOURSELF. YOU GET BETTER WHEN USING FOR FRIENDS AND FAMILY, AND WHEN YOU GET BETTER, OFF YOU GO INSANE TO OTHERS, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO GIVE IT A GO, JACK. IF YOU DON'T GET OUT THERE AND GIVE IT A GO, YOU WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT YOUR POTENTIAL IS, BECAUSE IN MUSIC, YOUR ATTITUDE IS YOUR APTITUDE. I WOULD ENCOURAGE TO GUARD THEIR ANGINA CHOIR. GIVERS YOUR SELL. IF SOMEBODY IS OUT THERE THINKING THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR VOICE, WHAT IS YOUR ULTIMATE PITCH? GO OUT THERE, BE BRAVE, BE CONFIDENT, AND DO IT. I RAN A COUNCIL CHOIR, AND WE DOCUMENTED A FEW OF THOSE PEOPLE. THEY WERE REALLY HESITANT, DIDN'T WANT TO, AND IT IS ABOUT BEING ENCOURAGED BY OTHERS, GIVING IT A GO, PRACTISING AND OFF YOU GO, AND THE RESULTS WERE PRETTY FANTASTIC, TO BE HONEST. YOU NEVER KNOWN SO YOU GIVE IT A . GO DID WAYNE GET INVOLVED WITH THAT? uh, NO. HE IS IN A BAND. HE IS QUITE MUSICAL. I CAN SEE WAYNE BROWN KICKING OFF INTO A DUET. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. KA KITE. MAYBE MY INSTRUMENT IS A BANJO. THAT IS MUSICAL, THAT IS IT. E WHAI AKE NEI ` RUNNING OUT OF IDEAS ON HOW TO KEEP THE KIDS ENTERTAINED DURING THE SCHOOL HOLIDAYS? WE GET SCIENTIFIC WITH A FEW IDEAS AFTER THE BREAK. (SONG): 'COLD AS ICE' BY FOREIGNER BEN: Hello? From the bank? Really? VOICEOVER: Know it's really ASB with Caller Check. (PHONE RINGING) # You're as cold as ice # We can verify it's us through the ASB Mobile Banking app. BEN: Oh, it is you ASB! HERE'S WHAT'S MAKING NEWS THIS MORNING ` THE VATICAN HAS REVEALED POPE FRANCIS DIED OF A STROKE AND SUBSEQUENT HEART FAILURE. THE HOLIDAY ROAD TOLL HAS OFFICIALLY ENDED, WITH THE PRELIMINARY NUMBER OF DEATHS ON OUR ROAD THIS EASTER WEEKEND CURRENTLY AT FOUR. AND TO SPORT, NEW ZEALAND STRIKER CHRIS WOOD HAS DOUBLED NOTTINGHAM FOREST'S LEAD OVER TOTTENHAM THIS MORNING, THE REDS HANGING ON TO A 2-0 ADVANTAGE IN THE SECOND HALF. IT CAN BE HARD TO FIND WAYS TO KEEP THE KIDS ENTERTAINED DURING THE SCHOOL HOLIDAYS, ESPECIALLY WITH MUCH OF THE COUNTRY EXPERIENCING PRETTY GLOOMY WEATHER, BUT WE HAVE A VISITOR HERE TO HELP GIVE US SOME IDEAS. FOUNDER OF SCIENCE BOX NZ DR SHALINI GULERIA IS A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE WHEN IT COMES TO USING HOUSEHOLD ITEMS IN SCIENCE EXPERIMENTS. SHE'S EVEN GOING TO DEMONSTRATE ONE FOR US. MORENA, DOCTOR. BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO THE EXPERIMENTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SHOWS, SCIENCE BOX NEW ZEALAND, THAT WAS FOUNDED IN 2018? CORRECT, WHEN I WAS DOING MY MASTERS, I WAS REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT TEACHING KIDS SCIENCE AND BREAKING THE BARRIER THAT SCIENCE CANNOT ONLY BE DONE IN THE LAB, BUT AT . HOW HAS IT BEEN GOING? OVER DID HINDER ROSE, BECAUSE WE COULDN'T DO IN PERSON EXPANDS WITH THE KIDS, BUT I DID IT ONLINE, WHICH WAS GREAT. TALENTS WHAT SCIENCE BOX ACTUALLY DOES. TAKE EXPERIMENTS TO SCHOOLS AS WELL AS TO HOLIDAY PROGRAMMES FOR THE KIDS, BASICALLY, THE IDEA IS TO PROVIDE KIDS WITH A SCIENCE CHALLENGE INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM A RECIPE TO FOLLOW, SO I TRICKED THEM INTO USING HOUSEHOLD ITEMS. HOW DO THEY RESPOND? THEY LOVE IT. THEY MAKE A LOT OF MESS. IT TRIGGERS THEIR CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS WHICH IS WHAT YOU NEED IS A SCIENTIST GROWING UP. HAS IT SURPRISED MANY TEACHERS? THERE LIKE, WHAT, THIS IS IN OUR PANTRY, AND WE COULD HAVE USED IT FOR EXPERIMENTS. DURING THE HOLIDAYS ADDRESS BEEN A BIT WET, EVERYBODY HAS BEEN INSIDE, IT HAS BEEN ANNOYING. THAT IS JUST MY KIDS. YOU'RE GOING TO SHOW SOMETHING THIS MORNING WE CAN DO AT HOME. ALL WE NEED IS BALLOONS` DO YOU WANT TO COME AND HOLD THE BALLOON? YES. SHE IS INCREDIBLY CRUEL HERE, BECAUSE I EXPRESSED MY FEAR OF BALLOONS. WHEN YOU TAKE YOUR SWEATER, YOU GET A SHOCK FROM YOUR CAR. HERE WE ARE GOING TO USE THAT STATIC ELECTRICITY, WHICH IS BASICALLY A BUILDUP OF NEGATIVE CHARGE. THE BALLOON IS OUR CHARGER. I HAVE MADE THIS MIXTURE OF CORNFLOUR AND OIL. I WILL ATTEMPT TO ATTRACT THIS TO THE BALLOON. IT COMES OUT LIKE A TENTACLE, LIKE AN ALIEN TENTACLE IF DONE CORRECTLY. TO CHARGE THE BALLOON, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS RUB IT ON YOUR HAIR OR YOUR CLOTHING, ESPECIALLY WOOL, IF YOU HAVE THAT, SO IF I JUST READ THAT FOR 30 SECONDS. I HAVE GOT SO MUCH HAIRSPRAY IN MY HAIR. IT MIGHT NOT WORK. I HAVE KEPT MY HEAD DRY. YOU CAN SEE IT IS TAKEN, SO THAT IS A SIGN THAT IT IS NOW CHARGED. WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS TAKE SOME OF THIS MIXTURE AND SORT OF DRIP IT. CAN YOU DO THE DRIPPING FOR ME? I WILL BRING IT CLOSER. THAT WILL BE EASIER, I RECKON. WHAT DO I DO? BRING IT CLOSER, AND YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY. OF THE SPOON ITSELF. YOU CAN MOVE IT ALONG. IT LOOKS LIKE A TENTACLE. YOU CAN DO THIS AT HOME. IF YOU DON'T HAVE CORNFLOUR, YOU CAN USE SALT AND PEPPER. CAN YOU DO IT ONE MORE TIME. JUST HOLD IT UP TO THE CAMERA ONE MORE TIME. WHEN YOU ARE DRIPPING IT. DRIP IT SLOWLY. THEN RECHARGE THE BALLOON. THAT IS SORT OF LIKE THE LIQUID AND SORT OF BENDING TOWARDS THE BALLOON, WHICH IS AMAZING. I MUCH OIL? A FOURTH CUP OF OIL, A FOURTH CUP OF CORNFLOUR, MIX IT ALL TOGETHER, MIX IT INTO A SLURRY AND AWAY YOU . IT INTO A SLURRY AND AWAY YOU GO. OH.. I CAN'T SEE. IT IS LIKE IT'S FLYING AWAY. YOU CAN SEE HERE. CAN YOU SEE IT? I CAN NOW. IT SORT OF COMES OUT LIKE AN ALIEN TENTACLE. FOR MORE INFORMATION, WE CAN GO TO SCIENCEBOX.CO.NZ. YOUR HAIR STILL LOOKS GREAT. E HAERE AKE NEI ` HAVE A FEW FEIJOAS HANGING AROUND IN THE GARDEN? A FEW SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT TO DO WITH THEM NEXT. # I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS # THAT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE THIS. IT'S THE TIME OF YEAR FOR FEIJOAS, SO TO HELP US MAKE USE OF THEM, CHEF POLLY MARKUS IS WITH US IN STUDIO THIS MORNING. IT IS A WEIRD FRUIT BECAUSE IT ALL COMES AT ONCE. DO PEOPLE GET OVERWHELMED? YES. IT'S AN INTERESTING FLAVOUR PROFILE AS WELL, BECAUSE IT CAN BE DIVISIVE. I LOVE THEM BUT I WILL ONLY HAVE THEM IF THEY ARE PERFECTLY FIRM. IT'S WHEN THEY START TO TURN... (LAUGHTER) BUT THEY HAVE THAT SLIGHTLY SORT OF ROTTEN ALCOHOL... YES, IT IS A VERY DISTINCT SMELL. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE FINDING THEMSELVES WITH BUCKETS OF VIDEO AT THE MOMENT, *FEIJOA IT'S A CRUMBLE. IT'S AS MANY FEIJOAS AS YOU CAN GET. YOU CAN CUT THE SKIN OFF OR SKIN THEM OUT PHASE, RASEPBERRY OR CHERRIES ON THE BASE, AND ROLLED OATS, POP THEM ON THE TOP AND MAKE IT. AND THEY LEND THEMSELVES VERY WELL TO PRESERVING. ABSOLUTELY, AND YOU CAN JUST POACH THEM WITH SOME SPICES AND PUT THEM IN THE FRIDGE AND HAVE THEM ON YOUR PORRIDGE. CHEEKY. SKIN ON OR OFF? ONE OF JENNY MAY'S BOYS HAS THE SKIN ON. I GET THAT. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. HELD WHAT IT IS IT ADDING BERRIES, DO YOU THINK? BERRIES ARE A NICE TO HAVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEIJOA CRUMBLE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR COMPANY THIS MORNING. TO SEE YOU TOMORROW. CAPTIONS BY COURTNEY SOLE, JULIE TAYLOR, TOM CLARKE AND KITTY WASASALA. CAPTIONS WERE MADE WITH THE SUPPORT OF NZ ON AIR.